Re: [orca-list] Cursor Tracking, Orca, and Braille

[John covici <covici ccs covici com>]

Using Brltty, you should be able to track the cursor, depending on the
display, put Brltty in learn mode and you should find a key
combination to follow the cursor.

on Friday 05/29/2009 Teresa Cochran(pipistrelle cox net) wrote
 > Thanks, Will. I've tried to use the arrow emulation, but it doesn't
 > work. I'd love to, though, especially considering the way columns are
 > read (or not read) on web pages using flat review.. i.e. I have to read
 > straight across the width of the screen, and that's a tad confusing.
 > 
 > I'll follow this thread with interest, and thanks again.
 > 
 > Teresa
 > 
 > On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 08:32 -0400, Willie Walker wrote:
 > > Hi Teresa:
 > > 
 > > Aha - so, it sounds like what you're doing is using the flat review  
 > > commands to navigate the content.  The flat review will only review the  
 > > visible text on the window.
 > > 
 > > Orca's flat review feature was not designed as the primary operating  
 > > mode for Orca.  Instead, the focus tracking mode is the preferred (and  
 > > default) mode.  With the the focus tracking mode, you navigate an  
 > > application as any user would -- you'd use the built in keyboard  
 > > navigation techniques for the application.  So, for Firefox, you'd use  
 > > the arrow keys, page up/down keys, the built-in 'find' mechanism of  
 > > Firefox, etc.
 > > 
 > > BrlTTY apparently has some features to allow you to emulate keyboard  
 > > keystrokes from the braille device itself, but I've never been quite  
 > > able to figure out exactly how to make it work.  I came pretty close  
 > > recently, but never got there fully.
 > > 
 > > If someone on this list has some tips for how people can use their  
 > > braille display to arrow and page around the content, please let us  
 > > know.  We can try to document it on the WIKI.  In addition, if there is  
 > > something Orca is currently doing to prevent you from doing this,  
 > > please also let us know and we can try to enable it.
 > > 
 > > Will
 > > 
 > > On May 28, 2009, at 9:41 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 > > 
 > > > Hi, will,
 > > >
 > > > I'm using a Braille Lite 40, and I'm reading with the advance bars. I
 > > > can't go past the bottom of the window, and sometimes I just have to  
 > > > use
 > > > the cursor-routing keys above the display characters. However, when I
 > > > press the bar to advance, I hit the tool bar at the top of the window,
 > > > and the text does not continue. It repeats the previous screen of text.
 > > >
 > > > I've sometimes successfully routed the cursor, then pressed numpad  
 > > > minus
 > > > to route the mouse pointer. This doesn't always work, and it also means
 > > > navigating past the toolbar, address bar, and other window objects
 > > > before I get to the text.
 > > >
 > > > Thanks,
 > > > Teresa
 > > >
 > > > On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 17:51 -0400, Willie Walker wrote:
 > > >> Hi Teresa:
 > > >>
 > > >> How are you navigating the web pages (i.e., what physical action on  
 > > >> what
 > > >> device are you performing)?
 > > >>
 > > >> Will
 > > >>
 > > >> Teresa Cochran wrote:
 > > >>> Hello, folk,
 > > >>>
 > > >>> I'm attempting to read web pages in firefox with Braille and Orca. It
 > > >>> seems the Braille tracks the mouse pointer. Is there any way to have  
 > > >>> it
 > > >>> track the caret? If not, how can I scroll past the bottom of the  
 > > >>> window
 > > >>> or scroll the page down using Braille?
 > > >>>
 > > >>> thanks,
 > > >>> Teresa
 > > >>>
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