Re: [orca-list] Gnome on Debian - Latest Version

["al Sten-Clanton" <Albert E Sten_Clanton verizon net>]

On upgrading with yum, take a look at 

<http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq>

My upgrades weren't as complicated as this document suggested they could
have been, probably because I don't have any non-Fedora repositories at this
point.  I also recall that it mentions reinstalling grub after upgrading,
but I haven't had to do that yet.

Hope this helps!

Al 

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From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On
Behalf Of Alonzo
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 6:49 PM
To: al Sten-Clanton
Cc: 'Orca E-mail List'
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Gnome on Debian - Latest Version

Hmmmm... How do you update fedora with yum from 9 to 10, etc... it might be
consideration if I coudl do that.

Alonzo

On 02/05/2009 04:29 PM, al Sten-Clanton wrote:
> Greetings!  Concerning updating Fedora, I've done it using yum from 
> version
> 8 to 9 and from 9 to 10.
>
> Al
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] 
> On Behalf Of Alonzo
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:28 PM
> To: Orca E-mail List
> Subject: Re: [orca-list] Gnome on Debian - Latest Version
>
> You could also try Arch linux. Its up to date and a rolling release. 
> So you would update the machine with one command through pacman. You 
> have to do some configurations so its not for those who want a distro that
just works.
> Fedora works good as well. there is a way to update the entire system 
> say for example from fedora10 to fedora11. I'm not sure how well it 
> works though as I'm currently using arch linux.
>
> Alonzo
>
> On 02/05/2009 10:13 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
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>> Will,
>>
>> Can you dual boot open solaris like you can with linux using grub or 
>> lilo?
>>
>> I think there were issues about sound card compatibility too.  I use 
>> a Creative Labs SB Live card and I thought I heard OpenSolaris didn't 
>> work with that one.
>> On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 07:58:24AM -0500, Willie Walker wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> If it helps, the lead developers of Orca work primarily on 
>>> OpenSolaris.  ;-)
>>>
>>> Will
>>>
>>> On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 05:49 -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
>>>
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>>>> That's really too bad too.  I gave up on dropline gnome last year 
>>>> because they lagged so far behind.  I've been a slackware for many 
>>>> years and generally loved it for its basic simplicity and ease at 
>>>> getting under the hood so to speak.  So I went and tried Debian.  I 
>>>> like its package management and dependency tracking and all but 
>>>> this gnome thing really disappointments me.  You would think that 
>>>> going unstable would get you the supposed latest versions but alas 
>>>> they are sitting on what is now an older version of gnome.  I 
>>>> understand a lot of our accessibility enhancements depend on having 
>>>> the latest gnome version and Debian package managers who don't like 
>>>> 2.24 are holding Deb users back in this regard.  I'm not in a mood 
>>>> to do yet another re-install of linux to switch to Solarus or 
>>>> Ubuntu.  I would just hope they get a move on with Debian and get gnome
up to date.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 07:56:30AM -0400, E.J. Zufelt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>>> Good morning Steve,
>>>>>
>>>>> I used to have an article written by the debian gnome package 
>>>>> manager eplaining why they haven't included 2.24 in their 
>>>>> repositories, but at the moment I can't find it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Suffice it to say that although some 2.24 packages are in 
>>>>> experimental, gnome-core is not and may not be for some time.  It 
>>>>> has something to do with the debian-gnome folks not liking some of 
>>>>> the things that gnome 2.24 does with session management.  You 
>>>>> could try building gnome 2.24 yourself, but that seems like an 
>>>>> aweful lot of work that is certainly going to be filled with a 
>>>>> great deal of
>>>>>            
> frustration.
>    
>>>>> HTH,
>>>>> Everett
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5-Feb-09, at 7:39 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>> I'm doing that and have Orca-2.24.1, I believe, but the rest of 
>>>>>> gnome is still at 2.22.whatever.  That's the part I want to improve.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 03:48:43AM -0400, E.J. Zufelt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> Good evening Steve,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I bbelieve that I was using Cid and pulled down Orca from 
>>>>>>> experimental with no problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>>> Everett
>>>>>>> On 5-Feb-09, at 3:21 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Do any Debian users know if/when any levels of Debian will go 
>>>>>>>> to gnome later than 2.22.X? I just looked in the Packages 
>>>>>>>> listing for unstable and it still shows 2.22.5 or something.  
>>>>>>>> It seems like Deb is slipping behind the other distros here.  
>>>>>>>> Many other distros have been using
>>>>>>>> 2.24 for months now.  Just wondering.  I understand going to
>>>>>>>> 2.24 of gnome may clear up some of the accessibility issues I'm 
>>>>>>>> having.  I suppose I could try and pull gnome from experimental?
>>>>>>>> Any ideas on when Lenny will becom stable? I thought I heard 
>>>>>>>> that when that does that the other stuff can start moving again.
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