Re: [orca-list] Problems with speech in Intrepid

["David E. Price" <deprice cs utah edu>]

Hi, Will,

You called it correctly:

]0;deprice plymouth: ~deprice plymouth:~$ whereis orca
orca: /usr/local/bin/orca
]0;deprice plymouth: ~deprice plymouth:~$ ps -elf |grep orca
0 S deprice   5821     1  0  80   0 -   969 wait   07:53 ?        
00:00:00 /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/orca
1 S deprice   5828  5821  0  80   0 -   970 wait   07:53 ?        
00:00:00 /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/orca
0 S deprice   5836  5648  0  80   0 -   969 wait   07:53 ?        
00:00:00 /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/orca
1 S deprice   5845  5836  0  80   0 -   971 wait   07:53 ?        
00:00:00 /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/orca
0 R deprice   5885  5828  1  80   0 -  9484 -      07:53 ?        
00:03:40 /usr/bin/python -c import orca.orca; orca.orca.main()
0 S deprice   5886  5845  1  80   0 -  9321 select 07:53 ?        
00:03:26 /usr/bin/python -c import orca.orca; orca.orca.main()
0 S deprice  21121 21067  0  80   0 -   810 pipe_w 13:28 pts/2    
00:00:00 grep orca

The odd thing here is that the second and third invocations of Orca 
occurred while the machine was idle.  When I started working on the 
machine this morning, Orca was performing well except for the Cepstral 
freezes (I'll file a bug on this issue over the weekend). I used apt-get 
to update and upgrade, then walked away from the machine because I had 
several appointments.  When I returned to it just a few minutes ago, its 
schizophrenic personality was back.  If you can make a guess from the 
above output, or suggest what to do to determine the nature of the 
problem, I would greatly appreciate it.  I'm going to build Orca from 
latest trunk and see if that makes the machine more usable... OK, it is 
a dream, but I have no idea why Orca would be invoked multiple times. :-)

Thanks,

dave


On 09/19/2008 07:58 AM, Willie Walker wrote:
> If they are identical, then this would be strange.  If one is the 
> shell script to launch orca and the other is the python process, then 
> this is OK.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Will
>
> José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:
> > Hi Will,
> > Looking at the system processes I found two processes  called orca. 
> > Is this ok?
> >
> > Willie Walker wrote:
> > > Hi David:
> > >
> > > These are very strange problems.  It sounds almost as though you 
> > > have two orca's running.  If you look at the system processes, do 
> > > you notice anything strange?
> > >
> > > Will
> > >
> > > David E. Price wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I'm having lots of problems with speech in Intrepid.  I've been 
> > > > spending the last several days of non-work time trying to sort out 
> > > > these problems.  These problems occur with both Cepstral and 
> > > > eSpeak. These problems include:
> > > >
> > > > - Orca often repeats everything that it says.  This behavior seems 
> > > > to be based on the size of the block of text sent to the 
> > > > synthesizer.  For instance, if I'm typing words, I will hear each 
> > > > word echoed.  However, if I am in gnome-terminal and I type "ls", I 
> > > > hear the entire listing then hear the entire listing a second 
> > > > time.  This is dependent on the Orca start--if Orca starts and 
> > > > everything is repeated, the behavior will continue until I quit 
> > > > Orca; if Orca starts and there is no repetition initially, the 
> > > > repetitions will not occur  during that session. An interesting 
> > > > side effect of this problem is that, when it is occurring, I can't 
> > > > quit Orca using the Quit Orca dialog (Orca_modifier-q)--I need to 
> > > > use the command line "Orca -q" to quit.  Right now, the repetition 
> > > > behavior seems to be occurring about 60-70% of the time.
> > > >
> > > > - If I use the Orca Preferences dialog to change the speech 
> > > > synthesizer, I often end up with both synthesizers speaking after 
> > > > activating either the Apply or OK buttons. (I've yet to capture 
> > > > this in a debug log... whenever I'm capturing the debug log, the 
> > > > problem doesn't occur.  I'll try a few more times to get this 
> > > > recorded.)
> > > >
> > > > - When I log off, I hear
> > > > the reset strings sent out through the emacspeak speech server to 
> > > > my DECTalk Express (not being used by Orca), then the current voice 
> > > > (or both voices) will say the first question of the text setup.  
> > > > These two messages are spoken in parallel (given that they are 
> > > > using two or three different synthesizers), but the emacspeak 
> > > > messages always start first.
> > > >
> > > > The two things that I have left to try are to see if I can get the 
> > > > emacspeak speech server running under Orca, then see if these 
> > > > behaviors persist.  If they do not, then I will rebuild 
> > > > gnome-speech from source.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have any other suggestions?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > dave
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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