Re: [orca-list] Installing Ubuntu

[Jon <j orcauser googlemail com>]

not to worry, everyone started as a noobie at some point :) 

the reason why i pointed towards google is that generally people dont 
enjoy answering the same questions over and over again, when the 
knowledge is easely available.

anyway, mounting
if you wish to mount a partition by hand, then at the prompt:
sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mountpoint

for example i could mount my ntfs partition as follows:
sudo mkdir /mnt/windows
sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows

you need to find out what ubuntu decided to call your hard-drive(s) 
either sda or hda
then sda1 means the first partition, sda2 second etc...

if you do:
ls -1 /dev/ | grep sda
and
ls -1 /dev/ | grep hda
the one that displays with numbers is your harddrive.
If you have more than one harddrive then try sdb and hdb

anyway, that was for mounting by hand. If you wanted some partitions to 
be mounted every time you started ubuntu, then you need to modify 
/etc/fstab

for example to mount a fat32 partition:
/dev/sda2	/mnt/fat32	vfat	0 0

and for an ntfs:
/dev/sda3	/mnt/ntfs	ntfs	0 0

this mounts as read only, to mount ntfs partitions as rewritables need 
to install ntfs-3g
sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g

then we could change the line in fstab to:
/dev/sda3	/mnt/ntfs	ntfs-3g	0 0

a lot more information can be found here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131

hope this helps, and sorry for posting this to the Orca-list, just 
thought maybe someone else might benafit too.

-Jon
On Wed 11/07/2007 at 21:47:54, Parham wrote:
> Sweet!
> Can you give me info about mounting?
> Sorry for asking so much questions. I don't check Linux manuals because 
> they mostly go into details I don't yet need to know, and they have no 
> examples. I learn best with examples.
> So you would please excuse me for my questions and seem newbie-ish.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jon" <j orcauser googlemail com>
> To: "Parham" <parham16 gmail com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 9:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [orca-list] Installing Ubuntu
> 
> 
> >Thats not a problem, resize whichever one you feel can give most space.
> >
> >about accessing the data on the fat32 partitions, thats not a problem
> >either, they could be mounted.
> >
> >-Jon
> >
> >On Wed 11/07/2007 at 21:21:48, Parham wrote:
> >>Well what about my other data? They are in FAT32 partitions.
> >>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>From: "Jon" <j orcauser googlemail com>
> >>To: "Parham" <parham16 gmail com>
> >>Cc: "Jon" <j orcauser gmail com>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 9:13 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [orca-list] Installing Ubuntu
> >>
> >>
> >>>Yes indeed, partition magic would do it too.
> >>>
> >>>Ubuntu will format it itself, just resizing the ntfs is fine, it will
> >>>install on the unallocated space (it will be obvious when you get to
> >>>that screen, as long as you got some free space left).
> >>>
> >>>-Jon
> >>>
> >>>On Wed 11/07/2007 at 19:53:14, Parham wrote:
> >>>>Well I can also use Partition magic then.
> >>>>I would create a 3 gb empty space on my harddrive and tell Linux to
> >>>>create
> >>>>there. Would that work?
> >>>>And does it have to be empty, or Linux would format that space itself?
> >>>>Thanks
> >>>>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>>From: "Jon" <j orcauser googlemail com>
> >>>>To: "Parham" <parham16 gmail com>
> >>>>Cc: <orca-list gnome org>
> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 7:40 PM
> >>>>Subject: Re: [orca-list] Installing Ubuntu
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Hello there,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Keeping your old data is fine, as long as you have enough free space 
> >>>>>on
> >>>>>your hard drive to install ubuntu along side.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Usually windows formats the whole drive as a windows partition (ntfs),
> >>>>>so you might need to resize it to get some free space.
> >>>>>Alternatively if you have a secondary hard drive, which you wish to
> >>>>>install ubuntu onto then this isnt a problem either.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I am not aware of any method of resizing ntfs partitions in windows
> >>>>>using any free tools, on the other hand there is a linux live cd which
> >>>>>can help you with this:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>gparted iso located at:
> >>>>>http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115843&package_id=173828
> >>>>>and look for gparted-livecd-0.3.4-8.iso
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Yes, the ubuntu instalation does have a formatting/resizing step in 
> >>>>>its
> >>>>>installation, but I have been unable to get it to resize ntfs 
> >>>>>partitions
> >>>>>in the past.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>So, burn gparted to cd
> >>>>>
> >>>>>reboot, and resize ntfs such that you have free (sometimes called
> >>>>>unallocated) space, at the end of the disk, (probably need a minimum 
> >>>>>of
> >>>>>3 gigabytes).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Now that you have unallocated space on your harddrive, reboot with the
> >>>>>ubuntu cd, and you can proceed with the installation.
> >>>>>Note, when it comes to the step about where on your hard-drive you 
> >>>>>wish
> >>>>>to install to, simply choose unallocated space.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>by the way, there are excellent tutorials on the ubuntu forums, a 
> >>>>>quick
> >>>>>search in google yields many results:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>dual boot ubuntu
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Hope this helps
> >>>>>
> >>>>>-Jon
> >>>>>On Wed 11/07/2007 at 15:32:28, Parham wrote:
> >>>>>>Hello,
> >>>>>>I have a PC that has windows XP SP 2 home edition on it, and I want 
> >>>>>>to
> >>>>>>install Linux on that.
> >>>>>>I wanted to know how I can prevent losing my personal data, I.E, 
> >>>>>>music,
> >>>>>>programs, downloads, and such.
> >>>>>>Thanks.
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