Hi. On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 05:56:29PM -0500, Rich Caloggero wrote: > > > > Seems that comboboxes should work as follows: > > * if you arrow to them, they should stay collapsed till you press space > > * if you tab into them, they should open by default > > * an opened combobox can be collapsed with escape > > * if its collapsed then arrows just move you away from it onto other > > objects > > > > This begs the question though: how should text boxes be handled? Its kind > > of a pain to have to escape from them even if your just reading through a > > document. Seems to me that the only control that needs this special > > handling is the textarea, since single line text files can be bypassed > > with up/down arrows. Perhaps the textarea could require enter to be > > pressed before it can be edited; and require an escape to stop editing. > > When not in edit mode, arrows just move past it, and read the contents if > > there are any. > > Why not leave the keystroke as space instead of enter? This way, things are just a little more standard i.e., spacebar is used to expand/collapse objects such as combo boxes, and the entering and leaving of a textarea. Just my $0.02. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina rednote net> > > To: "Joanmarie Diggs" <joanmarie diggs gmail com> > > Cc: <oedipus hicom net>; "orca-list" <orca-list gnome org> > > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 3:27 PM > > Subject: Re: [orca-list] Performance enhancements for Firefox 3 > > > > > >> Hi, Joanmarie: > >> > >> Joanmarie Diggs writes: > >>> > ..., is the confusion between down-arrow in a combo-box and down-arrow > >>> > for content navigation on the agenda for enhancement? Is that an FF > >>> > issue? Do I need to explain myself more on this point? > >>> > >>> I could use some more explanation I'm afraid. If you're not in a combo > >>> box, down arrow moves you from line to line. If you are in a combo box, > >>> down arrow moves you to the next item in the combo box. That's a > >>> Firefox thang. > >> > >> The problem occurs, imho, when you down-arrow through text, but land > >> inside a combo without realizing it. Subsequent down-arrows alter the > >> combobox setting, rather than taking you to subsequent lines. Yes, it's > >> very possible to land in, and change the value of a combo without > >> realizing it. > >> > >>> We will be adding commands to move to the next object > >>> which should be useful for escaping combo boxes. However right now, if > >>> you are on a collapsed combo box, left and right should move you off of > >>> it. You can also tab away from them. > >>> > >>> So.... What should we be doing differently? If it's a bug, then I'll > >>> see about getting it fixed soon. (Agency holiday shutdown means more > >>> Orca time next week. Woo hoo!) If it's a user interaction change, then > >>> I will leave that to Mike Pedersen to discuss and "spec out." > >> > >> > >> Suggest mimicing the behavior in applications where one first presses > >> spacebar to activate the combobox change. That would make Orca more > >> consistent, imho. > >> > >> But, we should probably ask community opinion on this. I've been caught > >> by this one so much, I suspect I'm not the only one has stumbled into > >> the problem. Yes, I understand how to undo, etc., but an ounce of > >> prevention, especially if it brings Orca into more consistent behavior, > >> is probably worthy of consideration. I'm not on the FF list, but will > >> forward this to someone who is and can push to that discussion as well. > >> > >> Thanks, Joanmarie. > >> > >> Janina > >> > >> > >>> > >>> Thanks! > >>> --Joanie > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777; sip:janina a11y org > >> Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://CapitalAccessibility.Com > >> > >> Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and > >> Canada > >> Learn more at http://ScreenlessPhone.Com > >> > >> Chair, Open Accessibility janina a11y org > >> Linux Foundation http://a11y.org > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Orca-list mailing list > >> Orca-list gnome org > >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list > >> Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Orca-list mailing list > Orca-list gnome org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca -- Igor
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