Frank=A0

Am = 08.11.2007 um 18:50 schrieb Ross Burton:

On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 18:47 +0100, Frank Pioch = wrote:

I would like = to port gnome mobile to avr32-linux, but I could find
any sources.

The = gnome components would all be at http://download.gnome.org/sour= ces/.

Ross

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E-mail : frank.pioch@googlemail.com<= /div>

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= --Apple-Mail-2--654891972-- From ross@openedhand.com Thu Nov 8 13:59:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FAE3B0074 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 13:59:56 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (up: 6991 hrs), (distance 13, link: ethernet/modem), [67.19.73.58] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LNR+4oxjpPlH for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 13:59:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pug.o-hand.com (3a.49.1343.static.theplanet.com [67.19.73.58]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AC33B0028 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 13:59:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.65] (unknown [91.84.213.104]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pug.o-hand.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD108E2A410; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:22:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: gnome mobile for avr32 From: Ross Burton To: Frank Pioch In-Reply-To: References: <3874366f0711080757v3a49c97ap64a6ea4115af2ed3@mail.gmail.com> <5CBB4AF7-C1F2-43BF-93D1-5352B019A2B2@googlemail.com> <1194544246.6721.25.camel@blackadder> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-FgBvQp9MiuWc/Ur5Ck3Y" Organization: Opened Hand Ltd Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:59:45 +0000 Message-Id: <1194548385.6721.29.camel@blackadder> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.1 Cc: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Mobile Platform development and discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:59:56 -0000 --=-FgBvQp9MiuWc/Ur5Ck3Y Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 19:55 +0100, Frank Pioch wrote: > but where can I find the sources, needed to build gnome > mobile......pherhaps I to bild to see :-) > I saw nothing at download.gnome.org that looks like "mobile any thing" The GNOME Mobile platform is basically a subset of the standard GNOME Platform, so pick the components you need and download them. The GNOME Mobile page lists the components that you'll need. Alternatively, Poky (pokylinux.org) will build it all for you, and adding an AVR32 port should be fairly trivial (it already supports uclibc). Ross --=20 OpenedHand Ltd. Unit R Homesdale Business Center / 216-218 Homesdale Road / Bromley / BR1 2QZ / UK Tel: +44 (0)20 8819 6559 Expert Open Source For Consumer Devices - http://o-hand.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------ --=-FgBvQp9MiuWc/Ur5Ck3Y Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBHM1yhLQnkR9C0M98RApOjAKCjfnD+YXdjltQDbAQgY9/ITMEpsgCfQLud N5huVDAkCzWPY2lTRxqggtk= =HvFn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-FgBvQp9MiuWc/Ur5Ck3Y-- From k.kooi@student.utwente.nl Thu Nov 8 14:57:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 584DD3B0074 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:57:38 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (up: 6694 hrs), (distance 18, link: ethernet/modem), [130.89.2.8] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S7TCPyReqNUE for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:57:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (smtp1.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.8]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06AC3B0073 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:57:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from Powerbook-2.local (dominion.kabel.utwente.nl [130.89.193.158]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id lA8JvQYk019142; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 20:57:27 +0100 Message-ID: <47336A26.8080507@student.utwente.nl> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:57:26 +0100 From: Koen Kooi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ross Burton Subject: Re: gnome mobile for avr32 References: <3874366f0711080757v3a49c97ap64a6ea4115af2ed3@mail.gmail.com> <5CBB4AF7-C1F2-43BF-93D1-5352B019A2B2@googlemail.com> <1194544246.6721.25.camel@blackadder> <1194548385.6721.29.camel@blackadder> In-Reply-To: <1194548385.6721.29.camel@blackadder> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact helpdesk@ITBE.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: k.kooi@student.utwente.nl Cc: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: k.kooi@student.utwente.nl List-Id: GNOME Mobile Platform development and discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:57:38 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ross Burton schreef: > On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 19:55 +0100, Frank Pioch wrote: >> but where can I find the sources, needed to build gnome >> mobile......pherhaps I to bild to see :-) >> I saw nothing at download.gnome.org that looks like "mobile any thing" > > The GNOME Mobile platform is basically a subset of the standard GNOME > Platform, so pick the components you need and download them. The GNOME > Mobile page lists the components that you'll need. > > Alternatively, Poky (pokylinux.org) will build it all for you, and > adding an AVR32 port should be fairly trivial (it already supports > uclibc). While you are right in general that adding new archs to OpenEmbedded based buidsystems (e.g. Poky), avr32 is a special case, like atmel patches _removing_ platforms from gcc, not supporting shared libs, arv32-gcc ICEing every other hour and finally kdrive lacking defines for avr32. Luckily that situation is improving (slowly, but steadily), avr32 patches are improving and moving upstream, and once the postal services in continental europe sort out their differences I can test the packages[1] on a avr32 board with a screen :) regards, Koen [1] http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?name=&arch=avr32&action=search - -- koen@dominion.kabel.utwente.nl will go go away in december 2007, please use k.kooi@student.utwente.nl instead. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFHM2omMkyGM64RGpERAmuwAKCNMHh5rQoVAbuPqrqJuCr3Es5SfgCcCEI/ PJyLrcLjmNLSgCjfDzF6c/A= =EP4D -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ross@openedhand.com Thu Nov 8 15:07:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B513B0074 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 15:07:35 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (up: 7002 hrs), (distance 13, link: ethernet/modem), [67.19.73.58] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2Jc9P7-aPlB9 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 15:07:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from pug.o-hand.com (3a.49.1343.static.theplanet.com [67.19.73.58]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB9B3B0073 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 15:07:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.65] (unknown [91.84.213.104]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pug.o-hand.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259DFE2A410; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 15:29:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: gnome mobile for avr32 From: Ross Burton To: k.kooi@student.utwente.nl In-Reply-To: <47336A26.8080507@student.utwente.nl> References: <3874366f0711080757v3a49c97ap64a6ea4115af2ed3@mail.gmail.com> <5CBB4AF7-C1F2-43BF-93D1-5352B019A2B2@googlemail.com> <1194544246.6721.25.camel@blackadder> <1194548385.6721.29.camel@blackadder> <47336A26.8080507@student.utwente.nl> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Um9yvhjSvqRZkflrLPIQ" Organization: Opened Hand Ltd Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:07:26 +0000 Message-Id: <1194552446.6721.34.camel@blackadder> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.1 Cc: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Mobile Platform development and discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:07:35 -0000 --=-Um9yvhjSvqRZkflrLPIQ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 20:57 +0100, Koen Kooi wrote: > While you are right in general that adding new archs to OpenEmbedded > based buidsystems (e.g. Poky), avr32 is a special case, like atmel > patches _removing_ platforms from gcc, not supporting shared libs, > arv32-gcc ICEing every other hour and finally kdrive lacking defines for > avr32. Ha, nice. :/ Ross --=20 OpenedHand Ltd. Unit R Homesdale Business Center / 216-218 Homesdale Road / Bromley / BR1 2QZ / UK Tel: +44 (0)20 8819 6559 Expert Open Source For Consumer Devices - http://o-hand.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------ --=-Um9yvhjSvqRZkflrLPIQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBHM2x+LQnkR9C0M98RAvZCAJ9pYZpS3wrD9VvcUo2BeztEOhlbVwCbBUgH CUTSYUU0v0jRtohriN8t9bw= =iLxO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Um9yvhjSvqRZkflrLPIQ-- From stefan@datenfreihafen.org Thu Nov 8 15:28:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15EBA3B0075 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 15:28:14 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 4864 hrs), (distance 22, link: ethernet/modem), [62.75.240.18] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nDjo2nItzHxq for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 15:28:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from sirius.lasnet.de (sirius.lasnet.de [62.75.240.18]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40F93B0074 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 15:28:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from p3ee2fa80.dip.t-dialin.net ([62.226.250.128] helo=localhost) by sirius.lasnet.de with esmtpsa (Cipher TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63 #1) id 1IqDyh-0004fS-JJ by authid with cram_md5; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:28:00 +0100 Received: from stefan by localhost with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IqDyz-0002gN-Ko; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:28:09 +0100 Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 21:28:09 +0100 From: Stefan Schmidt To: Matthew Allum Message-ID: <20071108202809.GG1483@datenfreihafen.org> References: <3874366f0711080757v3a49c97ap64a6ea4115af2ed3@mail.gmail.com> <1194538290.6721.17.camel@blackadder> <1194538930.5405.149.camel@localhost> <3874366f0711080834h4aeb9f4agd429d6dc76df243e@mail.gmail.com> <20071108164203.GD1483@datenfreihafen.org> <1194542221.6859.64.camel@polystyrene> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NQTVMVnDVuULnIzU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1194542221.6859.64.camel@polystyrene> X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-KeyID: 0xDDF51665 X-Website: http://www.datenfreihafen.org/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Subject: Re: X for gnome mobile Cc: Stefan Schmidt , mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Mobile Platform development and discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:28:14 -0000 --NQTVMVnDVuULnIzU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello. On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 17:17, Matthew Allum wrote: >=20 > On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 17:42 +0100, Stefan Schmidt wrote: > >=20 > > There are some limitations in kdrive that let me personally think if > > it makes sense to improve kdrive or switch to the standard xserver. > >=20 >=20 > What kind of limitations ? The main one I know of is lack of support for > OpenGL/GLX/DRI. Does the xrandr extension support resize, not only rotation? From a quick look it seems to us that only rotation is supported. For other stuff I had to ask raster or olv if they are missing some special stuff. It is not that we plan to switch away from kdrive, just curious why kdrive is still used so much. For devices with only 16 mb ram it makes sense, of course, but going with 128 mb and same in flash in some devices this days, it brings up the question again if a full blown xserver would bring in some other benefits. regards Stefan Schmidt --NQTVMVnDVuULnIzU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://www.datenfreihafen.org/contact.html iD8DBQFHM3FZbNSsvd31FmURAo56AJ9aurog/xP7ca1aIOcGielL4jK61ACfayGK c/r5qM9TmhG3aPC++u/uIqI= =eTEn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NQTVMVnDVuULnIzU-- From ross@openedhand.com Thu Nov 8 15:46:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C047D3B0075 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 15:46:26 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (up: 7008 hrs), (distance 13, link: ethernet/modem), [67.19.73.58] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PJXw1OE9sXJn for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 15:46:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from pug.o-hand.com (3a.49.1343.static.theplanet.com [67.19.73.58]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69763B0029 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 15:46:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.65] (unknown [91.84.213.104]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pug.o-hand.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB579E2A215; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 16:08:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: X for gnome mobile From: Ross Burton To: Stefan Schmidt In-Reply-To: <20071108202809.GG1483@datenfreihafen.org> References: <3874366f0711080757v3a49c97ap64a6ea4115af2ed3@mail.gmail.com> <1194538290.6721.17.camel@blackadder> <1194538930.5405.149.camel@localhost> <3874366f0711080834h4aeb9f4agd429d6dc76df243e@mail.gmail.com> <20071108164203.GD1483@datenfreihafen.org> <1194542221.6859.64.camel@polystyrene> <20071108202809.GG1483@datenfreihafen.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-8eFmxua4yOK/6i0jYzsM" Organization: Opened Hand Ltd Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:46:19 +0000 Message-Id: <1194554779.6721.36.camel@blackadder> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.1 Cc: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Mobile Platform development and discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:46:26 -0000 --=-8eFmxua4yOK/6i0jYzsM Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 21:28 +0100, Stefan Schmidt wrote: > Does the xrandr extension support resize, not only rotation? From a > quick look it seems to us that only rotation is supported. Indeed, kdrive only has randr 1.0, not 1.2. Ross --=20 OpenedHand Ltd. Unit R Homesdale Business Center / 216-218 Homesdale Road / Bromley / BR1 2QZ / UK Tel: +44 (0)20 8819 6559 Expert Open Source For Consumer Devices - http://o-hand.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------ --=-8eFmxua4yOK/6i0jYzsM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBHM3WaLQnkR9C0M98RAnYoAKC2fOaU6O8lcnhunrltiFIcck0cbACgz450 kfLKYczSU17u8Kk1k3Ehslk= =mCMJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-8eFmxua4yOK/6i0jYzsM-- From ross@openedhand.com Thu Nov 8 16:06:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8764D3B00C3 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 16:06:39 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (up: 7011 hrs), (distance 13, link: ethernet/modem), [67.19.73.58] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hetMF-cjgcWC for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 16:06:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pug.o-hand.com (3a.49.1343.static.theplanet.com [67.19.73.58]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831E23B0029 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 16:06:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.65] (unknown [91.84.213.104]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pug.o-hand.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8995DE2A343; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 16:28:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: X for gnome mobile From: Ross Burton To: Matthew Allum In-Reply-To: <1194555641.6714.20.camel@polystyrene> References: <3874366f0711080757v3a49c97ap64a6ea4115af2ed3@mail.gmail.com> <1194538290.6721.17.camel@blackadder> <1194538930.5405.149.camel@localhost> <3874366f0711080834h4aeb9f4agd429d6dc76df243e@mail.gmail.com> <20071108164203.GD1483@datenfreihafen.org> <1194542221.6859.64.camel@polystyrene> <20071108202809.GG1483@datenfreihafen.org> <1194554779.6721.36.camel@blackadder> <1194555641.6714.20.camel@polystyrene> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-jWqIWbwtKGr7KYIg36NC" Organization: Opened Hand Ltd Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:06:30 +0000 Message-Id: <1194555990.6721.38.camel@blackadder> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.1 Cc: Stefan Schmidt , mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Mobile Platform development and discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:06:39 -0000 --=-jWqIWbwtKGr7KYIg36NC Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 21:00 +0000, Matthew Allum wrote: > > Indeed, kdrive only has randr 1.0, not 1.2. > > 1.0 still supports resize - but the fbdev driver probably doesn't > (likely on Xorg fbdev neither). Xephyr does however (and thats a > kdrive). Of course, I forgot what the second R was for. I should go to sleep or something. :) Ross --=20 OpenedHand Ltd. Unit R Homesdale Business Center / 216-218 Homesdale Road / Bromley / BR1 2QZ / UK Tel: +44 (0)20 8819 6559 Expert Open Source For Consumer Devices - http://o-hand.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------ --=-jWqIWbwtKGr7KYIg36NC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBHM3pWLQnkR9C0M98RAv4RAKCCOHsS1TfTEvoodgK6drlnFmEOuACg1Z0j ZbXYFMAzXnC/t8q9ouijZic= =mAHi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-jWqIWbwtKGr7KYIg36NC-- From pvanhoof@gnome.org Thu Nov 8 16:36:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581143B0074 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 16:36:25 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.539 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.539 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.061, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 2739 hrs), (distance 14, link: ethernet/modem), [86.39.154.66] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q+sqCjdyI79y for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 16:36:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.freax.org (mail.freax.org [86.39.154.66]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DDBB3B0029 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 16:36:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.freax.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C87015D345; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 22:30:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.freax.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.freax.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AoQIQn16cRg9; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 22:30:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.113] (d54C0EE14.access.telenet.be [84.192.238.20]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.freax.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC1B15D33D; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 22:30:26 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: X for gnome mobile From: Philip Van Hoof To: Sinan Can In-Reply-To: <3874366f0711080757v3a49c97ap64a6ea4115af2ed3@mail.gmail.com> References: <3874366f0711080757v3a49c97ap64a6ea4115af2ed3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 22:36:27 +0100 Message-Id: <1194557787.7488.46.camel@schtrumpf> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Mobile Platform development and discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:36:25 -0000 On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 17:57 +0200, Sinan Can wrote: > Hi all, > > My master thesis will be about porting gnome mobile to symbian os. But I think you will be very interested in P.I.P.S. then. It's a POSIX layer (a libc, basically) for SymbianOS. I think some people at Nokia have GLib ported to it already. Not sure about Gtk+ though. I know P.I.P.S. comes with for example an impl. of pthread. Such a port would be totally awesome. Let me know when you start with this. http://developer.symbian.com/wiki/display/oe > I am totally new to gnome mobile. Can you please guide me? I tried to > check X server used in gnome mobile but it directs me to X.org. I > couldn't find the mobile version there. Does this mean there is no > special version used in gnome mobile? If no, can you please show me > where I can download the source code of x server used in embedded > systems. -- Philip Van Hoof, freelance software developer home: me at pvanhoof dot be gnome: pvanhoof at gnome dot org http://pvanhoof.be/blog http://codeminded.be From sinanc@gmail.com Thu Nov 8 16:54:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FD53B0099 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 16:54:22 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.225 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.225 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_30_40=0.374, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 10271 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.146.176] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f85fRCM3+OCJ for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 16:54:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.176]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93ADB3B0029 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 16:54:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j4so427075wah for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:54:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.90.1 with SMTP id s1mr365055wal.1194558857428; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:54:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.110.14 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 13:54:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3874366f0711081354r680b07a8o8f6d580753973d7c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 23:54:17 +0200 From: "Sinan Can" To: "Philip Van Hoof" Subject: Re: X for gnome mobile In-Reply-To: <1194557787.7488.46.camel@schtrumpf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_42299_1672587.1194558857425" References: <3874366f0711080757v3a49c97ap64a6ea4115af2ed3@mail.gmail.com> <1194557787.7488.46.camel@schtrumpf> Cc: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Mobile Platform development and discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:54:22 -0000 ------=_Part_42299_1672587.1194558857425 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Philip, Yes I've heard about P.I.P.S. I will search about it and openc. On Nov 8, 2007 11:36 PM, Philip Van Hoof wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 17:57 +0200, Sinan Can wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > My master thesis will be about porting gnome mobile to symbian os. But > > I think you will be very interested in P.I.P.S. then. It's a POSIX layer > (a libc, basically) for SymbianOS. I think some people at Nokia have > GLib ported to it already. Not sure about Gtk+ though. I know P.I.P.S. > comes with for example an impl. of pthread. > > Such a port would be totally awesome. Let me know when you start with > this. > > http://developer.symbian.com/wiki/display/oe > > > > I am totally new to gnome mobile. Can you please guide me? I tried to > > check X server used in gnome mobile but it directs me to X.org. > I > > couldn't find the mobile version there. Does this mean there is no > > special version used in gnome mobile? If no, can you please show me > > where I can download the source code of x server used in embedded > > systems. > > > > -- > Philip Van Hoof, freelance software developer > home: me at pvanhoof dot be > gnome: pvanhoof at gnome dot org > http://pvanhoof.be/blog > http://codeminded.be > > > > > -- Sinan Can ------=_Part_42299_1672587.1194558857425 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

Hi Philip,

Yes I've heard about P.I.P.S. I will search about it and openc.

On Nov 8, 2007 11:36 PM, Philip Van Hoof <pvanhoof@gnome.org> wrote:

On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 17:57 +0200, Sinan Can wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> My master thesis will be about porting gnome mobile to symbian os. But

I think you will be very interested in P.I.P.S. then. It's a POSIX layer
(a libc, basically) for SymbianOS. I think some people at Nokia have
GLib ported to it already. Not sure about Gtk+ though. I know P.I.P.S.
comes with for example an impl. of pthread.

Such a port would be totally awesome. Let me know when you start with
this.

http://developer.symbian.com/wiki/display/oe

> I am totally new to gnome mobile. Can you please guide me? I tried to
> check X server used in gnome mobile but it directs me to X.org. I
> couldn't find the mobile version there. Does this mean there is no
> special version used in gnome mobile? If no, can you please show me
> where I can download the source code of x server used in embedded
> systems.

--
Philip Van Hoof, freelance software developer
home: me at pvanhoof dot be
gnome: pvanhoof at gnome dot org
http://pvanhoof.be/blog
http://codeminded.be

--
Sinan Can ------=_Part_42299_1672587.1194558857425-- From Tapani.Palli@nokia.com Fri Nov 9 01:19:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6576B3B000F for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 01:19:09 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.361 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.361 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.038, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) (up: 7701 hrs), (distance 26, link: ethernet/modem), [131.228.20.172] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xM9HHt9pv732 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 01:19:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mgw-ext13.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [131.228.20.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4973B0028 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 01:19:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from esebh108.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh108.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.143.145]) by mgw-ext13.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.5/Switch-3.2.5) with ESMTP id lA96IiWD012705; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 08:19:04 +0200 Received: from esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.138.183]) by esebh108.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 9 Nov 2007 08:18:52 +0200 Received: from [172.21.35.129] ([172.21.35.129]) by esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 9 Nov 2007 08:18:51 +0200 Message-ID: <4733FBCD.9060703@nokia.com> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:18:53 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Tapani_P=E4lli?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (X11/20070824) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ext Stefan Schmidt Subject: Re: X for gnome mobile References: <3874366f0711080757v3a49c97ap64a6ea4115af2ed3@mail.gmail.com> <1194538290.6721.17.camel@blackadder> <1194538930.5405.149.camel@localhost> <3874366f0711080834h4aeb9f4agd429d6dc76df243e@mail.gmail.com> <20071108164203.GD1483@datenfreihafen.org> In-Reply-To: <20071108164203.GD1483@datenfreihafen.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2007 06:18:51.0962 (UTC) FILETIME=[65E021A0:01C82298] X-Nokia-AV: Clean Cc: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Mobile Platform development and discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 06:19:09 -0000 ext Stefan Schmidt wrote: > Hello. > > On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 18:34, Sinan Can wrote: > >> Do you mean that we need kdrive no more? What do you think about the phone >> openmoko? Do they use kdrive or conventional x server? >> > > We use kdrive. Does anybody knows some good comparison of the latest > standard xserver against kdrive? > > There are some limitations in kdrive that let me personally think if > it makes sense to improve kdrive or switch to the standard xserver. > > Could you elaborate what are the kdrive limitations you are referring here? I think we have all the interested parties in this mailing-list to improve it. > regards > Stefan Schmidt > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > mobile-devel-list mailing list > mobile-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-devel-list > // Tapani P�lli -- Software Engineer Open Source Software Operations From pvanhoof@gnome.org Sat Nov 10 11:05:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F3633B006F for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:05:58 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.54 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.060, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 2782 hrs), (distance 14, link: ethernet/modem), [86.39.154.66] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OgDTRaEnymD6 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:05:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.freax.org (mail.freax.org [86.39.154.66]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED013B0029 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:05:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.freax.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563C412C5B9; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:59:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.freax.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.freax.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TAD1qgvq8yxz; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:59:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.113] (d54C0EE14.access.telenet.be [84.192.238.20]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.freax.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCA01260B2; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:59:56 +0100 (CET) Subject: GNOME (Mobile) stand at FOSDEM '08 From: Philip Van Hoof To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:06:07 +0100 Message-Id: <1194710767.7453.40.camel@schtrumpf> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Pascal Bleser , Sergio Villar Senin X-BeenThere: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Mobile Platform development and discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:05:58 -0000 Hi there, I proposed manning a stand at FOSDEM '08. The idea was originally to do one for Tinymail but my good friend Sergio Villar convinced me to broaden the scope to GMAE (and include all other GMAE related technologies, and of course also the GNOME ones). I'm looking for volunteers who'll attend FOSDEM '08 to guard the stand, to help with demoing applications and GMAE-enabled devices, etc etc. I've already requested the GNOME Event box which indeed includes posters, computers, LCD screens and a few Maemo devices if I remember correctly. I can bring my OX, an OpenMoko phone and a 770 and N800. I'm sure there will be plenty of devices available for demo purposes, though. It would also be nice to have a few GPEPhone ones (ping and hint to Florian and Nils -- don't forget to put TMut on it! :) -- ). Let me know what you guys think. Note that my personal skills are probably not high on organising big things. So I can definitely use some help with this too (although it's probably not going to be a big thing). -- Philip Van Hoof, freelance software developer home: me at pvanhoof dot be gnome: pvanhoof at gnome dot org http://pvanhoof.be/blog http://codeminded.be From vincent@vuntz.net Sun Nov 11 17:46:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD757500A3; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:46:52 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.444 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.444 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.155, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) (up: 1412 hrs), (distance 19, link: ethernet/modem), [82.228.182.88] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vQCeHmJH3chb; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:46:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fennas.vuntz.net (fennas.vuntz.net [82.228.182.88]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5448C7500A7; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:46:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fennas.vuntz.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 86F231126CE; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:46:48 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:46:48 +0100 From: Vincent Untz To: Philip Van Hoof Subject: Re: GNOME (Mobile) stand at FOSDEM '08 Message-ID: <20071111174648.GA29700@vuntz.net> References: <1194710767.7453.40.camel@schtrumpf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1194710767.7453.40.camel@schtrumpf> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-11) Cc: Pascal Bleser , Sergio Villar Senin , mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Mobile Platform development and discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:46:52 -0000 Hi, Le samedi 10 novembre 2007, � 17:06 +0100, Philip Van Hoof a �crit : > Hi there, > > I proposed manning a stand at FOSDEM '08. The idea was originally to do > one for Tinymail but my good friend Sergio Villar convinced me to > broaden the scope to GMAE (and include all other GMAE related > technologies, and of course also the GNOME ones). > > I'm looking for volunteers who'll attend FOSDEM '08 to guard the stand, > to help with demoing applications and GMAE-enabled devices, etc etc. > > I've already requested the GNOME Event box which indeed includes > posters, computers, LCD screens and a few Maemo devices if I remember > correctly. I can bring my OX, an OpenMoko phone and a 770 and N800. I'm > sure there will be plenty of devices available for demo purposes, > though. > > It would also be nice to have a few GPEPhone ones (ping and hint to > Florian and Nils -- don't forget to put TMut on it! :) -- ). > > Let me know what you guys think. Note that my personal skills are > probably not high on organising big things. So I can definitely use some > help with this too (although it's probably not going to be a big thing). Sorry, Philip, but I'm lost: is this about the same stand that Christophe requested for GNOME or is it something else? If it's the same, it'd be nice to work with GNOME-FR (and GNOME-DE/GNOME-NL, but we didn't ask them yet) so we don't organize the same stand in two separate groups. And if it's not, then we would have needed the event box too ;-) Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas press�s. From pvanhoof@gnome.org Sun Nov 11 19:11:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EEAC7500A7; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:11:14 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.541 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.541 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.058, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 2809 hrs), (distance 14, link: ethernet/modem), [86.39.154.66] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BYFV+yUj-P1f; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:11:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freax.org (mail.freax.org [86.39.154.66]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BEDB7500A5; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:11:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.freax.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC49A12C681; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:05:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.freax.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.freax.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NVnA38fXMgld; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:05:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.113] (d54C0EE14.access.telenet.be [84.192.238.20]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.freax.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C40A12C67C; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:05:03 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: GNOME (Mobile) stand at FOSDEM '08 From: Philip Van Hoof To: Pascal Bleser In-Reply-To: <473750B9.1000606@fosdem.org> References: <1194710767.7453.40.camel@schtrumpf> <20071111174648.GA29700@vuntz.net> <473750B9.1000606@fosdem.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:11:21 +0100 Message-Id: <1194808281.7496.3.camel@schtrumpf> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FOSDEM DevRooms , Sergio Villar Senin , Vincent Untz , mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Mobile Platform development and discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:11:14 -0000 On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 19:58 +0100, Pascal Bleser wrote: > If the request is going to be 2 stand tables for GNOME + 1 or 2 stand > tables for Tinymail+GMAE then it's going to be no, clearly. One stand for GMAE+GNOME > If GNOME gets a 2 table stand, please share resources there, including > GMAE and Tinymail. That's fine. -- Philip Van Hoof, freelance software developer home: me at pvanhoof dot be gnome: pvanhoof at gnome dot org http://pvanhoof.be/blog http://codeminded.be From trimarchimichael@yahoo.it Wed Nov 28 18:32:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B56E750164 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:32:42 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.044 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.044 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, L_P0F_Unix=-1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) (up: 2699 hrs), (distance 17, link: ethernet/modem), [217.12.10.247] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jZbwNFDOaSIP for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:32:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web26210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web26210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.10.247]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0747A7500A4 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:32:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 46572 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Nov 2007 18:32:05 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: gDKTXFQVM1nxs6LnKq_mBmUzf48S3jf5w_M8TNZdp8q01zj1u7k7Rlvvm2mFSvPHj6.Mmt3ztBA6EkQXr1P8Ld4F14S0vKp5GOpkvTu1hNQ_5VaRg58UggfPB5M- Received: from [158.42.54.115] by web26210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:32:04 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/818.31 YahooMailWebService/0.7.157 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:32:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Trimarchi Subject: start to develop To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1236850787-1196274724=:45075" Message-ID: <478859.45075.qm@web26210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-BeenThere: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Mobile Platform development and discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:32:42 -0000 --0-1236850787-1196274724=:45075 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,=0A=0AI would like to start develop in mobile environment. 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Mail --0-1236850787-1196274724=:45075-- From vuntz@gnome.org Thu Nov 29 13:26:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D1B750278; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:26:16 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.443 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.443 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.156, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) (up: 2481 hrs), (distance 19, link: ethernet/modem), [82.228.182.88] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HiXd3zEBoMby; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:26:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fennas.vuntz.net (fennas.vuntz.net [82.228.182.88]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4004075024C; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:25:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fennas.vuntz.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 213781126D7; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:25:43 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:25:44 +0100 From: Vincent Untz To: FOSDEM DevRooms Subject: Re: [FOSDEM] Accepted requests for stands: GNOME/GMAE/Tinymail Message-ID: <20071129132544.GW10063@vuntz.net> References: <474DFD57.2090407@fosdem.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <474DFD57.2090407@fosdem.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: Sergio Villar Senin , Christophe Fergeau , mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Mobile Platform development and discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:26:16 -0000 Hi, Le jeudi 29 novembre 2007, � 00:44 +0100, Pascal Bleser a �crit : > Hi all > > Your request for a stand at FOSDEM 2008 has been accepted (2 tables). Cool, thanks! Is it possible to just use GNOME & GMAE for the name of the stand? Philip and others will probably talk about tinymail there, but the general context of tinymail is GMAE anyway. > We'll send you further information in about 2 weeks. > > Who's the designated contact person for that stand ? Don't know if Philip or Sergio want to play that role. I can do it if there's no volunteer... Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas press�s. From rob.taylor@codethink.co.uk Thu Nov 29 14:18:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CCD7750264; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:18:46 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.605 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 88 hrs), (distance 13, link: ethernet/modem), [208.78.103.131] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EAnsiaOFerLi; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:18:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.codethink.co.uk (208-78-103-131.slicehost.net [208.78.103.131]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665EA7501E0; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:18:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [78.32.152.225]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.codethink.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E73C1161; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:18:10 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <474ECA59.6070309@codethink.co.uk> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:19:05 +0000 From: Rob Taylor Organization: CodeThink Ltd. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vincent Untz Subject: Re: [FOSDEM] Accepted requests for stands: GNOME/GMAE/Tinymail References: <474DFD57.2090407@fosdem.org> <20071129132544.GW10063@vuntz.net> In-Reply-To: <20071129132544.GW10063@vuntz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FOSDEM DevRooms , Sergio Villar Senin , Christophe Fergeau , mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Mobile Platform development and discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:18:46 -0000 Vincent Untz wrote: > Hi, > > Le jeudi 29 novembre 2007, � 00:44 +0100, Pascal Bleser a �crit : >> Hi all >> >> Your request for a stand at FOSDEM 2008 has been accepted (2 tables). > > Cool, thanks! > Is it possible to just use GNOME & GMAE for the name of the stand? > Philip and others will probably talk about tinymail there, but the > general context of tinymail is GMAE anyway. I'm pretty certain its called 'GNOME Mobile' now, not GMAE. Thanks, Rob >> We'll send you further information in about 2 weeks. >> >> Who's the designated contact person for that stand ? > > Don't know if Philip or Sergio want to play that role. I can do it if > there's no volunteer... > > Vincent > -- Rob Taylor, Codethink Ltd. - http://codethink.co.uk From pvanhoof@gnome.org Thu Nov 29 16:09:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D007501E3; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:09:22 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.542 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.542 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.057, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 3238 hrs), (distance 14, link: ethernet/modem), [86.39.154.66] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gJvuYeKdd1ic; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:09:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freax.org (mail.freax.org [86.39.154.66]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD937500E3; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:08:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.freax.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03EB2EC8D5; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:02:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.freax.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.freax.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gsW3KP7CEcGD; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:02:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.113] (d54C0EE14.access.telenet.be [84.192.238.20]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.freax.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B29B1EC8CC; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:02:02 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [FOSDEM] Accepted requests for stands: GNOME/GMAE/Tinymail From: Philip Van Hoof To: Vincent Untz In-Reply-To: <20071129132544.GW10063@vuntz.net> References: <474DFD57.2090407@fosdem.org> <20071129132544.GW10063@vuntz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:08:45 +0100 Message-Id: <1196352525.8325.8.camel@schtrumpf> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FOSDEM DevRooms , Sergio Villar Senin , Christophe Fergeau , mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: mobile-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Mobile Platform development and discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:09:22 -0000 On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 14:25 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > Hi, > > Le jeudi 29 novembre 2007, à 00:44 +0100, Pascal Bleser a écrit : > > Hi all > > > > Your request for a stand at FOSDEM 2008 has been accepted (2 tables). > > Cool, thanks! > Is it possible to just use GNOME & GMAE for the name of the stand? > Philip and others will probably talk about tinymail there, but the > general context of tinymail is GMAE anyway. We already discussed and agreed (together with for example Jeff Waugh) that the general context of the stand will indeed be GMAE and not "just Tinymail". Now that this stand is officially accepted, we might want to notify the people on the GMAE mailing list about this .. and offer them to join the stand with their technologies and devices. Being Tinymail's author, and Sergio being Tinymail's main contributor, there might of course be a certain emphasis on Tinymail (especially while we'll be at the stand). Although I will happily share the stand with any other GNOME and/or GMAE community member who'll show his technologies and softwares. > > We'll send you further information in about 2 weeks. > > > > Who's the designated contact person for that stand ? > > Don't know if Philip or Sergio want to play that role. I can do it if > there's no volunteer... I'm willing to let you take that role if you like to do that. -- Philip Van Hoof, freelance software developer home: me at pvanhoof dot be gnome: pvanhoof at gnome dot org http://pvanhoof.be/blog http://codeminded.be