From snecklifter@gmail.com Sun Oct 1 15:00:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45F93B008B for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2006 15:00:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23187-10 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2006 15:00:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4147F3B007C for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2006 15:00:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1362803nfa for ; Sun, 01 Oct 2006 12:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.12 with SMTP id t12mr3918262nfj; Sun, 01 Oct 2006 12:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.14.7 with HTTP; Sun, 1 Oct 2006 12:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <364d303b0610011200t68ea935cve1efc2af3d4dec96@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 20:00:56 +0100 From: "Chris Brown" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <451EDC18.70303@silverorange.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_23919_18950597.1159729256439" References: <451EDC18.70303@silverorange.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.88 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.145, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_30_40=0.374, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.88 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher on FC6 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:00:58 -0000 ------=_Part_23919_18950597.1159729256439 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 30/09/06, Steven Garrity wrote: > > With the release of Fedora Core 6 in a couple of weeks, I was wondering > if anyone know how easy/hard it might be to install Jokosher on FC6. > > Is everything up-to-date enough that it will not require CVS versions of > any required packages (gstreamer, etc.)? Yes is the simple answer. I have got an awful lot going on here all of a sudden so I have had very little time to try and get it accepted as a Fedora Extra package and several stumbling blocks have caused me to defer trying to get it in until 0.2 comes out. If you or anyone else would like to have a go though they are more than welcome. Regards Chris ------=_Part_23919_18950597.1159729256439 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

On 30/09/06, Steven Garrity <stevelist@silverorange.com> wrote:
With the release of Fedora Core 6 in a couple of weeks, I was wondering
if anyone know how easy/hard it might be to install Jokosher on FC6.

Is everything up-to-date enough that it will not require CVS versions of
any required packages (gstreamer, etc.)?

Yes is the simple answer. I have got an awful lot going on here all of a sudden so I have had very little time to try and get it accepted as a Fedora Extra package and several stumbling blocks have caused me to defer trying to get it in until 0.2 comes out. If you or anyone else would like to have a go though they are more than welcome.

Regards
Chris


------=_Part_23919_18950597.1159729256439-- From jefrat@gmail.com Mon Oct 2 09:48:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E87D3B0104 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 09:48:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10531-06 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 09:48:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6877D3B0085 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 09:48:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so486498ugb for ; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 06:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.123.5 with SMTP id v5mr1371903huc; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 06:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.136.13 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 06:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <29d55b2b0610020648pf7aadcfj6d89e684132893a6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 09:48:15 -0400 From: "Jeff Ratliff" To: "Jokosher gnome" In-Reply-To: <1159277890.5479.4.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <364d303b0609260423n31d4c921p323907edd1337d2a@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0609260440j70e18792o6cd33bcfc2904558@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0609260441y27c4ff3ak60f88ef2c3c66397@mail.gmail.com> <1159275302.4995.3.camel@localhost> <364d303b0609260606l5f7534e3of835edae5a99399e@mail.gmail.com> <1159277890.5479.4.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Moving icons X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:48:17 -0000 On 26/09/06, Daniel Holbach wrote: > Hello Chris, > > Am Dienstag, den 26.09.2006, 14:06 +0100 schrieb Chris Brown: > > I imagine its still there. This is for fedora however. My concerns > > (which I expressed in reply to that original mail) were that I could > > not see a way in which uninstallation was catered for. I'm also a > > little hesitant (perhaps unecessarily) at running a setup script as > > root without knowing exactly what the whole thing does. Its looks fine > > but will need to be maintained and I dont think its the right method > > for installing an app as essentially its defining a new method of > > software installation, no? > > the process of building the package in Ubuntu/Debian and maybe even in > the .rpm world makes use of the setup.py (to install files into the > package). You're right, the package manager (dpkg for Debian/Ubuntu) and > rpm do take care of the de-installation. > This is how it's supposed to work with RPMs as well. rpmbuild should either 'make && make install' or run a setup script. Custom installing everything file by file in the spec file is a last resort. That approach means doing it separately for each distro (which is something I thought we were trying to avoid). Using the setup script in the spec file do the install will make it trivial to 'rpmbuild --rebuild' on any RPM based distro. It also means the spec file doesn't have to be rewritten every time an important file changes places. -- Jeff Ratliff (Gomer_X) From parumi@iua.upf.edu Mon Oct 2 10:12:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9C53B020D for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:12:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12179-08 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:12:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iua-mail.upf.es (iua-mail.upf.es [193.145.55.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE1F3B01DB for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:12:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.55.0.66] (helo=[10.55.0.66]) by iua-mail.upf.es with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GUOWw-0002K6-00; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:12:26 +0200 Message-ID: <45211E88.6080505@iua.upf.edu> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:13:28 +0200 From: Pau Arumi User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060918) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Laszlo Pandy References: <451EAF9F.8010409@iua.upf.edu> <451EBEB9.9050609@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <451EBEB9.9050609@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IUA-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-IUA-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-IUA-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=-4.399, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-IUA-MailScanner-From: parumi@iua.upf.edu X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.561 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.038, BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_SV=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.561 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] trying to set up jokosher X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:12:50 -0000 En/na Laszlo Pandy ha escrit: > Pau Arumi wrote: > >> hi, >> i've just make my first attempt to run the svn version of jokosher but >> not very successfully... >> (...) > I talked to Pau on IRC about this. It seems he has only built the > gstreamer module and not the other required ones. The problem should be > fixed now. > I just wanted to confirm that I've been able to complete the set up process :-) This is the only difficulty I've found: In the wiki "InstallingCvsGstreamer" you can read "Now, repeat the steps [./autogen.sh and make] for the other modules in any order." I've noted that not every order is good, since you can find errors of .pc files not found. This is the order that worked well for me is: 1. gstreamer 2. gst-plugins-base 3. gst-plugins-good 4. gst-plugins-ugly 5. gnonlin Cheers! Pau -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From john@thegreens.co.uk Mon Oct 2 14:34:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9BA43B002A for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:34:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26461-01 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:34:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.139]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F3D2B3B000B for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1616 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2006 18:34:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Oct 2006 18:34:40 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.22] (unknown [192.168.1.22]) by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6727677DA0 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:34:38 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:33:46 +0100 From: John Green User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jokosher dev-list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.158 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.372, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.158 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Managing extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 18:34:42 -0000 I've started to look into the 'Manage Extensions' option in the extensions menu and have a few questions on how extensions will be deployed/installed. At the minute all the extensions we have are in a single directory. Some of them consist of more than one file (typically a .py and a .glade for instance). Some are a single .py. Freesound search has more than one .py file. When jokosher loads the extensions it retrieves a list of all .py files and executes the startup() function (if one exists). If we allow extensions to span multiple .py files then this causes a couple of problems. Firstly only one file will contain the startup function and jokosher needs a method of determining which it is. Secondly as we add more and more extensions with multiple files then eventually there will be a clash of names. Perhaps we need to organise each extension within its own subdirectory. Or we could just compel extensions to be contained within a single module but this seems a bit restrictive to me. How will the extensions be packaged? A simple extension consisting of a single .py file is one thing but how will we package up multiple file extensions. There is mention in the wiki of eggs about which I know nothing I'm afraid. Are there ubuntu packages for it? The site pointed to only seems to have source tarballs. We could also accept .tar.gz and .zip files. I think it would be helpful if extensions had a narrative that described their purpose briefly in one line so that the manager can display it in the list of installed extensions. (I'm thinking similar to firefox extensions here.) Of course you can only uninstall user extensions. Should you also be allowed to install a user extension with the same name as a system one? The user one would override the system one. -- John From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Mon Oct 2 14:44:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302723B006D for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:44:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26653-10 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:44:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93AC3B0074 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:44:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1592052nfa for ; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 11:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr6060577nfi; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 11:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 11:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 21:43:59 +0300 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: "John Green" In-Reply-To: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.423 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.023, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.423 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher dev-list Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Managing extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 18:44:02 -0000 maybe install the extensions in .tar.gz archives? ie: cubase-exporter.tar.gz would contain: / /ce-main.py /ce-functions.py /images/ /images/icon.png /images/icon-02.png /README If its not resource hungry to untar the extensions on loading or at point of usage, I think its quite tidy that way. Or as you said modules or python eggs. On 10/2/06, John Green wrote: > I've started to look into the 'Manage Extensions' option in the > extensions menu and have a few questions on how extensions will be > deployed/installed. > > At the minute all the extensions we have are in a single directory. Some > of them consist of more than one file (typically a .py and a .glade for > instance). Some are a single .py. Freesound search has more than one > .py file. When jokosher loads the extensions it retrieves a list of all > .py files and executes the startup() function (if one exists). If we > allow extensions to span multiple .py files then this causes a couple of > problems. Firstly only one file will contain the startup function and > jokosher needs a method of determining which it is. Secondly as we add > more and more extensions with multiple files then eventually there will > be a clash of names. Perhaps we need to organise each extension within > its own subdirectory. Or we could just compel extensions to be contained > within a single module but this seems a bit restrictive to me. > > How will the extensions be packaged? A simple extension consisting of a > single .py file is one thing but how will we package up multiple file > extensions. There is mention in the wiki of eggs about which I know > nothing I'm afraid. Are there ubuntu packages for it? The site pointed > to only seems to have source tarballs. We could also accept .tar.gz and > .zip files. > > I think it would be helpful if extensions had a narrative that described > their purpose briefly in one line so that the manager can display it in > the list of installed extensions. (I'm thinking similar to firefox > extensions here.) Of course you can only uninstall user extensions. > Should you also be allowed to install a user extension with the same > name as a system one? The user one would override the system one. > > -- > John > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > -- Panos Laganakos From jens.geiregat@gmail.com Mon Oct 2 15:10:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56293B00B8 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 15:10:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28353-03 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 15:10:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43EB3B006C for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 15:10:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id x66so2767272pye for ; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 12:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.103.1 with SMTP id f1mr8068088pym; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 12:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.38.8 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 12:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 21:10:52 +0200 From: "Jens Geiregat" To: "Panos Laganakos" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.393 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.393 X-Spam-Level: Cc: John Green , jokosher dev-list Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Managing extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:10:55 -0000 Or just give every extension its own folder? Keeps the extensions folder clean, allows extensions to have their own files, no extraction needed. Or force extensions to have one NAME.py file and allow a NAME-folder. Jens On 10/2/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > maybe install the extensions in .tar.gz archives? > > ie: cubase-exporter.tar.gz would contain: > > / > /ce-main.py > /ce-functions.py > /images/ > /images/icon.png > /images/icon-02.png > /README > > If its not resource hungry to untar the extensions on loading or at > point of usage, I think its quite tidy that way. > > Or as you said modules or python eggs. > > On 10/2/06, John Green wrote: > > I've started to look into the 'Manage Extensions' option in the > > extensions menu and have a few questions on how extensions will be > > deployed/installed. > > > > At the minute all the extensions we have are in a single directory. Some > > of them consist of more than one file (typically a .py and a .glade for > > instance). Some are a single .py. Freesound search has more than one > > .py file. When jokosher loads the extensions it retrieves a list of all > > .py files and executes the startup() function (if one exists). If we > > allow extensions to span multiple .py files then this causes a couple of > > problems. Firstly only one file will contain the startup function and > > jokosher needs a method of determining which it is. Secondly as we add > > more and more extensions with multiple files then eventually there will > > be a clash of names. Perhaps we need to organise each extension within > > its own subdirectory. Or we could just compel extensions to be contained > > within a single module but this seems a bit restrictive to me. > > > > How will the extensions be packaged? A simple extension consisting of a > > single .py file is one thing but how will we package up multiple file > > extensions. There is mention in the wiki of eggs about which I know > > nothing I'm afraid. Are there ubuntu packages for it? The site pointed > > to only seems to have source tarballs. We could also accept .tar.gz and > > .zip files. > > > > I think it would be helpful if extensions had a narrative that described > > their purpose briefly in one line so that the manager can display it in > > the list of installed extensions. (I'm thinking similar to firefox > > extensions here.) Of course you can only uninstall user extensions. > > Should you also be allowed to install a user extension with the same > > name as a system one? The user one would override the system one. > > > > -- > > John > > _______________________________________________ > > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > > > > > -- > Panos Laganakos > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > From laszlok2@gmail.com Mon Oct 2 16:41:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55B33B01C5 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 16:41:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00477-05 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 16:41:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120003B00AC for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 16:41:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id x66so2791027pye for ; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.84.12 with SMTP id m12mr8470096pyl; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [70.29.186.3]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 15sm2814306nzo.2006.10.02.13.41.01; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4521795C.4020404@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:41:00 -0400 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Green References: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher dev-list Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Managing extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 20:41:05 -0000 John Green wrote: > I've started to look into the 'Manage Extensions' option in the > extensions menu and have a few questions on how extensions will be > deployed/installed. > Yes, thank you! Now I don't have to do it ;) > At the minute all the extensions we have are in a single directory. Some > of them consist of more than one file (typically a .py and a .glade for > instance). Some are a single .py. Freesound search has more than one > .py file. When jokosher loads the extensions it retrieves a list of all > .py files and executes the startup() function (if one exists). If we > allow extensions to span multiple .py files then this causes a couple of > problems. Firstly only one file will contain the startup function and > jokosher needs a method of determining which it is. Secondly as we add > more and more extensions with multiple files then eventually there will > be a clash of names. Perhaps we need to organise each extension within > its own subdirectory. Or we could just compel extensions to be contained > within a single module but this seems a bit restrictive to me. > > How will the extensions be packaged? A simple extension consisting of a > single .py file is one thing but how will we package up multiple file > extensions. There is mention in the wiki of eggs about which I know > nothing I'm afraid. Are there ubuntu packages for it? The site pointed > to only seems to have source tarballs. We could also accept .tar.gz and > .zip files. > Aq is in fact the only one who knows anything about eggs. Last I heard he was planning on putting some code in Extension.py that allowed Jokosher to load files from eggs. Hopefully he will be back soon. Actually you are talking about two separate things. First how will we distribute extensions, and how will we store extensions in ~/.jokosher/extension/. I think .tar (or tar.gz if you really want to) will work fine for the first use. We could also do eggs if Aq has time to implement it. One other thing to think about is: where should extensions keep their own config files? If we put them all in ~/.jokosher/extensions/ we will probably run into name conflicts. This makes having separate dirs even more appealing. > I think it would be helpful if extensions had a narrative that described > their purpose briefly in one line so that the manager can display it in > the list of installed extensions. (I'm thinking similar to firefox > extensions here.) Of course you can only uninstall user extensions. > Should you also be allowed to install a user extension with the same > name as a system one? The user one would override the system one. I thought about this for a while and I have come to the conclusion that we shouldn't allow extensions to be installed system wide. This primarily comes down to the fact that if the user wants to turn off an extension (maybe its buggy or they just don't like it) and its in /usr/lib/jokosher/extensions/ they can't. This presents a usability problem for the extension manager because people will be puzzled by the fact that some extensions can be uninstalled and others can't. But of course we want to be able to ship extensions with a Jokosher install. Right now on startup jokosher checks if the folders extensions, presets, instruments, etc. exist in ~/.jokosher/. If they don't exist they are created. If no extension dir exists, we can just copy the one from /usr/lib/jokosher/extensions/ complete with the default extensions inside. This allows the user to control what extensions are running, and uninstalling one of the default extensions does not remove it for everyone else on the system. Laszlo From sinisterguy@gmail.com Mon Oct 2 17:08:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7E43B002A for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 17:08:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01995-10 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 17:08:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280B23B0011 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 17:08:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so580691nzn for ; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.237.15 with SMTP id o15mr7884021qbr; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.15.101? ( [74.111.140.109]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p4sm6450747qba.2006.10.02.14.08.23; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:08:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Luke Tilley To: Jens Geiregat In-Reply-To: References: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:08:52 -0400 Message-Id: <1159823332.4789.30.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: John Green , jokosher dev-list , Panos Laganakos Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Managing extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 21:08:25 -0000 I think the folder idea is a good one. Like Jens said, it keep the extension dir clean. As for distribution however, I like the .tar.gz idea. You could have the Extension Manager look for .tar.gz files and then automatically untar them to the users extension dir. Another thing we could do is distribute extensions with a file extension more assosiated wiht jokosher, but still have it be a plain old tar.gz As for the name conflicts. Generally, I don't think that this should be allowed as it will confuse users, but there are also extension updates to consider etc. I'm not quite sure what you should do for that. -Lukas On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 21:10 +0200, Jens Geiregat wrote: > Or just give every extension its own folder? Keeps the extensions > folder clean, allows extensions to have their own files, no extraction > needed. Or force extensions to have one NAME.py file and allow a > NAME-folder. > > > Jens > > On 10/2/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > > maybe install the extensions in .tar.gz archives? > > > > ie: cubase-exporter.tar.gz would contain: > > > > / > > /ce-main.py > > /ce-functions.py > > /images/ > > /images/icon.png > > /images/icon-02.png > > /README > > > > If its not resource hungry to untar the extensions on loading or at > > point of usage, I think its quite tidy that way. > > > > Or as you said modules or python eggs. > > > > > > > > -- > > Panos Laganakos > > _______________________________________________ > > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > > > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list From john@thegreens.co.uk Tue Oct 3 05:07:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B132A3B0095 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 05:07:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31545-10 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 05:07:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.203]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F40383B0096 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 05:07:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 64166 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2006 09:07:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Oct 2006 09:06:59 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DB40C78E79; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 10:06:56 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 10:06:54 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher dev-list Message-ID: <20061003090654.GA11825@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher dev-list References: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> <4521795C.4020404@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4521795C.4020404@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.232 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.298, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.232 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Managing extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 09:07:02 -0000 On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 04:41:00PM -0400, Laszlo Pandy wrote: > One other thing to think about is: where should extensions keep their > own config files? If we put them all in ~/.jokosher/extensions/ we will > probably run into name conflicts. This makes having separate dirs even > more appealing. I think that having each extension in its own directory is cleaner. Maybe we can have the startup() function always in a .py file with the same name as the directory so we don't have to hunt for it. How about adding a GetShortDescription() function to get a one-line description to display in the ManageExtensions window. > Right now on startup jokosher checks if the folders extensions, presets, > instruments, etc. exist in ~/.jokosher/. If they don't exist they are > created. If no extension dir exists, we can just copy the one from > /usr/lib/jokosher/extensions/ complete with the default extensions > inside. This allows the user to control what extensions are running, and > uninstalling one of the default extensions does not remove it for > everyone else on the system. This is fine for a first time install but what about after an upgrade. Package managers don't touch the home directories so jokosher needs some way of knowing it's been upgraded since you last ran, otherwise you won't pick up any upgraded extensions. (maybe add lastversionnumber to ~/.jokosher/config and check on startup. You only ever need to write it when it changes.) -- John Green From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Tue Oct 3 05:29:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DBE73B006A for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 05:29:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32564-01 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 05:29:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED87B3B0095 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 05:29:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so585689ugb for ; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 02:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.100.17 with SMTP id c17mr3536049ugm; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 02:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.238.14 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 02:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610030229m1516cd13q550f2a35a9b6bcca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 10:29:06 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "jokosher dev-list" In-Reply-To: <20061003090654.GA11825@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> <4521795C.4020404@gmail.com> <20061003090654.GA11825@localhost.localdomain> X-Google-Sender-Auth: d845a046789f63f2 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.235 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.165, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.235 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Managing extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 09:29:08 -0000 On 10/3/06, John Green wrote: > On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 04:41:00PM -0400, Laszlo Pandy wrote: > > One other thing to think about is: where should extensions keep their > > own config files? If we put them all in ~/.jokosher/extensions/ we will > > probably run into name conflicts. This makes having separate dirs even > > more appealing. > I think that having each extension in its own directory is cleaner. Maybe we > can have the startup() function always in a .py file with the same name as > the directory so we don't have to hunt for it. How about adding a > GetShortDescription() function to get a one-line description to display in > the ManageExtensions window. OK, my thoughts on extension distribution, running, configuration, and disabling. This is how I planned to do it. Egg files are the standard Python way of distributing a module which requires extra files or more than one Python file all in a single package. It seems silly to me to do .tar.gz methods, because we'd basically be re-inventing .egg files ourselves. The issues of "when do we unpack them" are also a problem. Eggs are like Java .jar files. See http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/PythonEggs for details about them. Using egg files will make it easier to port to different platforms, because the stuff to use them is already built in to Python. An egg file can be imported as a module without unpacking, which is the point of them, and Python files inside the .egg can load other files inside the .egg (say, .glade files) also without unpacking. Installation of a .tar.gz file is awkward, because you can drag it into the extensions folder but can't then later drag it out (because it will have been exploded into a directory) which is confusing for users. -------------------------------------------- Configuration: my thought was that we would provide two API functions, getConfigParameter and setConfigParameter. Extensions use those to save configuration. That way, an extension doesn't have to worry about where those parameters are saved. I'd suggest that implementation of those parameters is done something like this: Extension calls setConfigParameter("username", "stuartl") (to save a username) setConfigParameter looks for .jokosher/extension-config/EXTENSIONNAME.config and finds that it doesn't exist Create a dictionary {"username", "stuartl"} and pickle it to the file .jokosher/extension-config/EXTENSIONNAME.config Extension calls setConfigParameter("password", "mypass") setConfigParameter looks for .jokosher/extension-config/EXTENSIONNAME.config and finds that it does exist pickle.load that file to a dictionary add "password", "mypass" to that dictionary and repickle it back to the file Extension calls getConfigParameter("username") getConfigParameter looks for .jokosher/extension-config/EXTENSIONNAME.config and finds that it does exist pickle.load it into a dictionary d return d["username"] Make sense? The reason we use pickle is that then people can set config parameters to be complicated things like another dictionary: setConfigParameter("somedata", {"wibble":"bar"}) should work. -------------------------------------------- Disabling global extensions: I think that the easiest way to do this is to have a .jokosher/extension-config/disabled file which lists global extensions that should not be loaded. That, to me, seems a lot better than losing the ability to have global extensions, or having a rather unpleasant hack of having J "copy" extensions from a global dir into your local dir when you run it. That idea also won't work all that well because if you run J, it "copies" a global extension into your .jokosher, you then delete that "copied" extension (to disable it) and run J again, it'll copy it again! A "disabled" file explicitly listing global extensions you don't want to run seems like the easiest way, and being able to ship extensions with Jokosher is such a big win that we don't want to step away from it if we can avoid it. -------------------------------------------- Sorry I've been out of touch for a few days. Welcome to new people, too! sil -- If hard data were the filtering criterion you could fit the entire contents of the Internet on a floppy disk. -- Cecil Adams From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Tue Oct 3 05:32:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74AF83B0077 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 05:32:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32531-06 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 05:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9B63B006A for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 05:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so585946ugb for ; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 02:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.244.10 with SMTP id r10mr3540384ugh; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 02:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.238.14 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 02:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610030232v50ea7e7dw5f13c6be772d2ec4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 10:32:25 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Pau Arumi" In-Reply-To: <45211E88.6080505@iua.upf.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <451EAF9F.8010409@iua.upf.edu> <451EBEB9.9050609@gmail.com> <45211E88.6080505@iua.upf.edu> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 107f6a614daca017 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.237 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.163, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.237 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, Laszlo Pandy Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] trying to set up jokosher X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 09:32:29 -0000 > This is the only difficulty I've found: In the wiki > "InstallingCvsGstreamer" you can read > "Now, repeat the steps [./autogen.sh and make] for the other modules in > any order." > > I've noted that not every order is good, since you can find errors of > .pc files not found. Quite right, and I've updated the wiki. Thanks! sil -- 2. Make it halfway normal. I don't have any use for laser-beam-shooting pocket combs, or non-existent existents existing within their own existences, or ballpoint pens made out of lettuce. -- CardinalT dictates rules for the raif Silly Game From john@thegreens.co.uk Tue Oct 3 07:10:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD69F3B00BC for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 07:10:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04578-01 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 07:10:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B250D3B0160 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 07:10:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 33596 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2006 11:10:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Oct 2006 11:10:33 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 90C3F78E7B; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 12:10:32 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 12:10:32 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061003111032.GA14872@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> <4521795C.4020404@gmail.com> <20061003090654.GA11825@localhost.localdomain> <4c91566f0610030229m1516cd13q550f2a35a9b6bcca@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610030229m1516cd13q550f2a35a9b6bcca@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.282 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.248, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.282 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Managing extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 11:10:37 -0000 On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 10:29:06AM +0100, Stuart Langridge wrote: > > Egg files are the standard Python way of distributing a module which > requires extra files or more than one Python file all in a single > package. It seems silly to me to do .tar.gz methods, because we'd > basically be re-inventing .egg files ourselves. The issues of "when do > we unpack them" are also a problem. Eggs are like Java .jar files. See > http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/PythonEggs for details about > them. Using egg files will make it easier to port to different After reading that page again and using apt-cache I found the package python-setuptools on dapper which I think is what I was missing. I'll have look at this and have a play. Cheers -- John Green From sinisterguy@gmail.com Tue Oct 3 17:17:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885883B0007 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 17:17:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04230-02 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 17:17:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.202]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D263B006D for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 17:17:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so721582nzn for ; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 14:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.237.1 with SMTP id o1mr9899217qbr; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 14:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.15.101? ( [74.111.140.109]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f15sm2761493qba.2006.10.03.14.17.55; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 14:17:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Luke Tilley To: Jokosher Devel List Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:18:27 -0400 Message-Id: <1159910307.4792.16.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Recording Problems... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:17:58 -0000 Hello All, As some of you may know, I have been having recording problems with Jokosher (Both 0.1 and latest svn). Until recently, I couldn't get anything at all to record under linux. I recently found the solution on the alsa mailing list. With a Creative SoundBlaster Live! (my card), you must turn down AC97 output to 0, turn up AC97 Capture to 100, turn up Capture and set it to record and finally, turn up whatever you want to record and set it to record. complicated to say the least. Anyways, what would happen then was that I'd set up everything properly, but nothing would be recorded in Jokosher. I fired up audacity and it worked though. Strange to say the least. Long story short, I finally isolated the problem: Jokosher was muting AC97 Capture every time I tried to record. I further narrowed the problem down to these lines in JokosherApp.py: for track in mixer.list_tracks(): if track.flags & gst.interfaces.MIXER_TRACK_INPUT: mixer.set_record(track, False) #Most cards incapable of multiple simultanious input have a channel called 'Capture' which must be enabled along with the actual input channel if track.label == 'Capture': mixer.set_record(track, True) I'm not entirely sure what the 'if track.flags...' part does, but it seems to mute everything except the channels armed for recording. Then the Capture channel is armed, but that only does half of the work. For my sound card AC97 needs to be enabled as well. The quick and dirty fix is obvious: just add: if track.label == 'AC97 Capture': mixer.set_record(track, True) However, this is quite unelegant as not all sound cards have an 'AC97 Capture'. A marginally better way I think, would be to check to see if the sound card is indeed one which needs this hack, but like I said, that would only be marginally better. What do you guys think? -Lukas From jonobacon@gmail.com Tue Oct 3 19:01:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7021D3B0074 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 19:01:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09078-01 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 19:01:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2F23B0081 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 19:01:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so307536nfa for ; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.160.2 with SMTP id i2mr5138518hue; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.206.3 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 16:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610031601y279f7d16s50bc6ab416639e63@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 00:01:17 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "Luke Tilley" In-Reply-To: <1159910307.4792.16.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1159910307.4792.16.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.446 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.046, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.446 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Devel List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Recording Problems... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:01:22 -0000 On 10/3/06, Luke Tilley wrote: > I'm not entirely sure what the 'if track.flags...' part does, but it > seems to mute everything except the channels armed for recording. Then > the Capture channel is armed, but that only does half of the work. For > my sound card AC97 needs to be enabled as well. > > The quick and dirty fix is obvious: just add: > > if track.label == 'AC97 Capture': > mixer.set_record(track, True) > > However, this is quite unelegant as not all sound cards have an 'AC97 > Capture'. A marginally better way I think, would be to check to see if > the sound card is indeed one which needs this hack, but like I said, > that would only be marginally better. What do you guys think? Hmm, this is an interesting one. Elleo has been doing most of the work on the ALSA recording side, and I am sure he can offer some information. I did look into some of this, and GStreamer has an ALSA mixer interface that reports which capture inputs are available. Now, I was under the impression that the Instrument Connections dialog lists the available inputs that can be selected and this is used to specify the specific input, but it seems from the above that the Capture inputs needs to enabled as well. I would recommend you have a look into the GstAlsaMixer, if I remember correctly. When I last checked there was not an awful lot of documentation, so I poked around with different things and used dir() to figure out what was going on. I am sure the guys in #gstreamer can be of help too. From what I remember, the mixer capabilities (which inputs are available) is exposed with the GStreamer ALSA mixer interface, and each input has a record flag which I assume is set with set_record(). This probably explains some of the recording problems that some people have had with 0.1. Jono From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Wed Oct 4 02:58:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD04D3B000F for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 02:58:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26421-08 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 02:58:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB753B0007 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 02:58:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so389841nfa for ; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:58:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.120.14 with SMTP id s14mr12460buc; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.115.13 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 23:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610032358v5cb378caib1508798e247bcc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 07:58:53 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "jokosher dev-list" In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610030229m1516cd13q550f2a35a9b6bcca@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> <4521795C.4020404@gmail.com> <20061003090654.GA11825@localhost.localdomain> <4c91566f0610030229m1516cd13q550f2a35a9b6bcca@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9c5ab572439b6212 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.428 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.028, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.428 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Managing extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 06:58:57 -0000 > Configuration: my thought was that we would provide two API functions, > getConfigParameter and setConfigParameter. Extensions use those to > save configuration. That way, an extension doesn't have to worry about > where those parameters are saved. I've now added this, and my freesound extension is using it (but that's not committed yet). Haven't updated the wiki yet. sil -- For your information, some people think I'm very funny -- Joe Hallenbach, "The Last Boy Scout" From mike@mikeasoft.com Wed Oct 4 06:02:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140613B0009 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 06:02:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01837-07 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 06:02:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bigben2.bytemark.co.uk (bigben2.bytemark.co.uk [80.68.81.132]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1569E3B006A for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 06:02:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mikeasoft.com ([80.68.92.185]) by bigben2.bytemark.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GV3Zq-0005PP-DQ for jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org; Wed, 04 Oct 2006 10:02:10 +0000 Received: from mike by mikeasoft.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GV3e8-0006mw-00 for ; Wed, 04 Oct 2006 11:06:36 +0100 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 11:06:35 +0100 From: Michael Sheldon To: Jokosher Devel List Message-ID: <20061004100633.GL2753@mikeasoft.com> Mail-Followup-To: Jokosher Devel List References: <1159910307.4792.16.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <1c3fe48e0610031601y279f7d16s50bc6ab416639e63@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1c3fe48e0610031601y279f7d16s50bc6ab416639e63@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (Linux) Sender: Michael Sheldon X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.349 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.250, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.349 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Recording Problems... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 10:02:14 -0000 On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 12:01:17AM +0100, Jono Bacon wrote: > On 10/3/06, Luke Tilley wrote: > > I'm not entirely sure what the 'if track.flags...' part does, but it > > seems to mute everything except the channels armed for recording. Then > > the Capture channel is armed, but that only does half of the work. For > > my sound card AC97 needs to be enabled as well. > > > > The quick and dirty fix is obvious: just add: > > > > if track.label == 'AC97 Capture': > > mixer.set_record(track, True) > > > > However, this is quite unelegant as not all sound cards have an 'AC97 > > Capture'. A marginally better way I think, would be to check to see if > > the sound card is indeed one which needs this hack, but like I said, > > that would only be marginally better. What do you guys think? > > Hmm, this is an interesting one. Elleo has been doing most of the work > on the ALSA recording side, and I am sure he can offer some > information. Another problem with this whole approach in general is that "Capture" gets translated, so recording is likely to be broken for anyone with a soundcard like this that is using a different locale. I've had a chat with MikeS in #gstreamer and as far as he's aware there's no real way around the problem due to it being an ALSA limitation. So we may need to rethink the way we let the user select inputs. Cheers, Mike. -- Michael Sheldon http://www.mikeasoft.com From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Wed Oct 4 06:34:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2123B0168 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 06:34:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03399-04 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 06:34:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF553B00BB for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 06:34:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so454402nfc for ; Wed, 04 Oct 2006 03:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.126.5 with SMTP id y5mr21707buc; Wed, 04 Oct 2006 03:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.115.13 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 03:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610040334j2f81cab8y354bc90748d4107c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 11:34:48 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Jokosher Devel List" In-Reply-To: <20061004100633.GL2753@mikeasoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1159910307.4792.16.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <1c3fe48e0610031601y279f7d16s50bc6ab416639e63@mail.gmail.com> <20061004100633.GL2753@mikeasoft.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6dfe98abd5ac6de6 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.426 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.026, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.426 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Recording Problems... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 10:34:53 -0000 > Another problem with this whole approach in general is that "Capture" gets translated, so recording is likely to be broken for anyone with a soundcard like this that is using a different locale. > > I've had a chat with MikeS in #gstreamer and as far as he's aware there's no real way around the problem due to it being an ALSA limitation. So we may need to rethink the way we let the user select inputs. Hang on, not sure I understand this at all. What would we have to do instead? Puzzled... sil -- If God didn't want us to eat meat, then he wouldn't have invented the hamburger, would he? Logic. -- Bevier, alt.fan.eddings From mike@mikeasoft.com Wed Oct 4 06:49:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A7D3B00D2 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 06:49:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04178-08 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 06:49:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tallyho.bytemark.co.uk (tallyho.bytemark.co.uk [80.68.81.166]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A023B007A for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 06:49:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mikeasoft.com ([80.68.92.185]) by tallyho.bytemark.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GV4Ju-0000gA-2s for jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org; Wed, 04 Oct 2006 10:49:46 +0000 Received: from mike by mikeasoft.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GV4O7-0006x7-00 for ; Wed, 04 Oct 2006 11:54:07 +0100 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 11:54:07 +0100 From: Michael Sheldon To: Jokosher Devel List Message-ID: <20061004105407.GM2753@mikeasoft.com> Mail-Followup-To: Jokosher Devel List References: <1159910307.4792.16.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <1c3fe48e0610031601y279f7d16s50bc6ab416639e63@mail.gmail.com> <20061004100633.GL2753@mikeasoft.com> <4c91566f0610040334j2f81cab8y354bc90748d4107c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610040334j2f81cab8y354bc90748d4107c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (Linux) Sender: Michael Sheldon X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.38 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.219, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.38 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Recording Problems... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 10:49:48 -0000 On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 11:34:48AM +0100, Stuart Langridge wrote: > > Another problem with this whole approach in general is that "Capture" gets translated, so recording is likely to be broken for anyone with a soundcard like this that is using a different locale. > > > > I've had a chat with MikeS in #gstreamer and as far as he's aware there's no real way around the problem due to it being an ALSA limitation. So we may need to rethink the way we let the user select inputs. > > Hang on, not sure I understand this at all. What would we have to do > instead? Puzzled... > We'd have to give the user more control over what channels are selected in some way (making it closer to a normal mixer I guess), which'll make things more complicated for them. Mike. -- Michael Sheldon http://www.mikeasoft.com From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Wed Oct 4 07:12:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C25D3B00C2 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 07:12:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05099-07 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 07:12:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDFF3B0168 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 07:12:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so463952nfc for ; Wed, 04 Oct 2006 04:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.92.18 with SMTP id u18mr2168338nfl; Wed, 04 Oct 2006 04:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 04:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 14:12:06 +0300 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: "Stuart Langridge" In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610040334j2f81cab8y354bc90748d4107c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1159910307.4792.16.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <1c3fe48e0610031601y279f7d16s50bc6ab416639e63@mail.gmail.com> <20061004100633.GL2753@mikeasoft.com> <4c91566f0610040334j2f81cab8y354bc90748d4107c@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.423 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.023, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.423 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Devel List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Recording Problems... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 11:12:12 -0000 Is it possible to answer this at ALSA's level in a way that it would benefit gstreamer/jok? On 10/4/06, Stuart Langridge wrote: > > Another problem with this whole approach in general is that "Capture" gets translated, so recording is likely to be broken for anyone with a soundcard like this that is using a different locale. > > > > I've had a chat with MikeS in #gstreamer and as far as he's aware there's no real way around the problem due to it being an ALSA limitation. So we may need to rethink the way we let the user select inputs. > > Hang on, not sure I understand this at all. What would we have to do > instead? Puzzled... > > sil > > -- > If God didn't want us to eat meat, then he wouldn't have invented the > hamburger, would he? Logic. > -- Bevier, alt.fan.eddings > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > -- Panos Laganakos From john@thegreens.co.uk Wed Oct 4 08:35:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384733B021C for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 08:35:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10091-02 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 08:35:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.142]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 975D53B00C2 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 08:35:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 51507 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2006 12:35:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Oct 2006 12:35:01 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4393478E78; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 13:35:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 13:34:59 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061004123459.GB17924@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> <4521795C.4020404@gmail.com> <20061003090654.GA11825@localhost.localdomain> <4c91566f0610030229m1516cd13q550f2a35a9b6bcca@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610032358v5cb378caib1508798e247bcc@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610032358v5cb378caib1508798e247bcc@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.317 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.213, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.317 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Managing extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 12:35:09 -0000 On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 07:58:53AM +0100, Stuart Langridge wrote: > I've now added this, and my freesound extension is using it (but > that's not committed yet). Haven't updated the wiki yet. > Excellent :) Have you any experience with eggs (or do you leave that to Mrs Aq). I tried making sense of the docs last night and ... whilst it's quite comprehensive it's a bit lacking in actual real examples. This makes it a bit hard finding out what we need to know. There are some tutorials kicking around and it looks like it might making handling extensions a bit of a doddle as far as jokosher itself is concerned. Certainly a fair bit easier than untarring archives etc. The actual building of the egg itself however seems a bit like black magic with lots of farting around with setup files and__init__.py and stuff and I'm not sure how much of this is strictly necessary for our needs. -- John Green From john@thegreens.co.uk Thu Oct 5 11:46:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021123B0018 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 11:46:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18134-06 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 11:46:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.202]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F9383B0079 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 11:46:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 95290 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2006 15:46:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Oct 2006 15:46:48 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B48B778289; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 16:46:47 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 16:46:43 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061005154643.GA11860@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> <4521795C.4020404@gmail.com> <20061003090654.GA11825@localhost.localdomain> <4c91566f0610030229m1516cd13q550f2a35a9b6bcca@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610032358v5cb378caib1508798e247bcc@mail.gmail.com> <20061004123459.GB17924@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061004123459.GB17924@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.305 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.148, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069, TW_SV=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -1.305 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Managing extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:46:53 -0000 OK. I've got J working with a simple HelloWorld plugin as an egg. I need to get it working on a plugin with a glade file included before I commit it. Meanwhile a question arises regarding building eggs and the directory structure of the svn repositories for extensions. At the minute a default egg build needs a directory structure something like this: MyExtension/ setup.py src/ MyExtension.py __init__.py MyExtension.glade build/ dist/ build/ is used by setup during the build process (then cleared) dist/ is the default destination of the egg (though you can change it with the -d option to setup.py bdist_egg) If we followed this default layout then the final deployable eggs would be all over the place and make it a bit messy to find and install them. We could make the svn structure look like: extensions/ trunk/ eggs/ Extension_1/ setup_py src/ . . . Extension_2/ . . . extensions/ Extension_1.egg Extension_2.egg . . . SimpleExtension.py When you build the egg you use python setup.py bdist_egg -d ../../extensions/ This keeps all the deployable extensions in one directory. You can also set JOKOSHER_EXTENSION_DIRS to include this dir so that your extensions are always up-to-date whenever you svn up. The disadvantage to doing this is that you always have to remember the -d option when running setup.py before you commit. Unless there's a way to change the default that I haven't found yet. Any thoughts? -- John Green From laszlok2@gmail.com Fri Oct 6 02:26:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A62B03B0099 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 02:26:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24202-06 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 02:26:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B720D3B0094 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 02:26:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id x66so946522pye for ; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 23:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.114.16 with SMTP id r16mr5239696pym; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 23:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [70.29.186.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 8sm1805575nzn.2006.10.05.23.26.34; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 23:26:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 02:26:25 -0400 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jokosher gnome Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher won't launch after r764. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 06:26:40 -0000 With the current revision of SVN, Jokosher fails to launch complaining about the inability to register a new GType. Lukas reported this on IRC and its really bizarre. I spent some time figuring out how to fix it, but I still have no clue why it happened in the first place: /home/laszlo/Software/SVN/jokosher/JonoEdit/trunk/Jokosher/TimeView.py:17: Warning: cannot register existing type `TimeView' class TimeView(gtk.EventBox): Traceback (most recent call last): File "./Jokosher/Jokosher", line 105, in ? localFileOrGlobalFileImport("JokosherApp") File "./Jokosher/Jokosher", line 33, in localFileOrGlobalFileImport globals()[importName] = __import__("Jokosher." + importName, None, None, True) File "/home/laszlo/Software/SVN/jokosher/JonoEdit/trunk/Jokosher/JokosherApp.py", line 14, in ? import AddInstrumentDialog, TimeView, CompactMixView File "/home/laszlo/Software/SVN/jokosher/JonoEdit/trunk/Jokosher/TimeView.py", line 17, in ? class TimeView(gtk.EventBox): RuntimeError: could not create new GType I'm not sure why it effects TimeView.py or why it has anything at all to do with a GType, but this is caused by python not being able to find the pkg_resources module that is used to load python eggs. To fix it just install python-setuptools on Ubuntu, or the equivalent non-DEB package for everyone else. P.S. Its thanksgiving in Canada this weekend, so I won't be back until Tuesday. I'll see everyone then, and hopefully Jono too :) Laszlo From john@thegreens.co.uk Fri Oct 6 04:57:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64BC93B000E for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 04:57:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31819-02 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 04:57:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.204]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A0983B0008 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 04:57:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 65161 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2006 08:57:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Oct 2006 08:57:09 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1D8C277EB2; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:57:09 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:57:09 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061006085708.GA5674@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.248 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.058, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_BASE64_NO_NAME=0.224, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.248 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher won't launch after r764. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 08:57:15 -0000 --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 02:26:25AM -0400, Laszlo Pandy wrote: > With the current revision of SVN, Jokosher fails to launch complaining > about the inability to register a new GType. Lukas reported this on IRC > and its really bizarre. I spent some time figuring out how to fix it, > but I still have no clue why it happened in the first place: > Damn. Sorry to have wasted anyone's time with this. I did mention the new dependency in the commit log but perhaps I should have said it here as well. I suppose just because I always read them I shouldn't assume everyone else does. The actual error seems bizarre and unrelated though. I'd have expected it to fail importing pkg_resources. Another thing. I intend writing up the egg stuff in the wiki but it's my son's birthday bash this weekend so in case I don't get around to it I attach the files for my HelloWorld extension. You can run it by copying the .egg file in the dist/ sub-dir to ~/.jokosher/extensions. The main difference from the current extensions we have is that you can't access files in the package directly as files but instead instead you use pkg_resources functions. So we can use these to read the glade file into a string and load the widget tree from that. The setup.py file has the stuff we need build the egg (entrypoints is the key to loading it into jokosher - you must use the same name that jokosher is looking for i.e. "jokosher.extensions"). 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(localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910F63B0189 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 07:06:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06718-08 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 07:06:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590003B01D3 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 07:05:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1043609nfa for ; Fri, 06 Oct 2006 04:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.120.14 with SMTP id s14mr168275buc; Fri, 06 Oct 2006 04:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.115.13 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 04:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610060405j78c0e83aw7e6ca1788f7b6fbf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 12:05:58 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Jokosher Devel List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: b7d9f2fe1dbd049e X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.425 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.025, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.425 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Nyquist plugins X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 11:06:02 -0000 Audacity does this thing called Nyquist (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/help/nyquist) which allows people to write plugins in a text editor and that don't need compilation. Anyone know if there are gstreamer plans to support it? It'd be good if Jokosher could take advantage of any Nyquist plugins that get written... sil -- Abusus non tollit usum (The threat of potential abuse should not be an argument against any use) From jefrat@gmail.com Fri Oct 6 08:26:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8750D3B02E1 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 08:26:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10917-04 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 08:26:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F173B01AB for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 08:26:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so333252ugb for ; Fri, 06 Oct 2006 05:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.201.10 with SMTP id y10mr1563828huf; Fri, 06 Oct 2006 05:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.136.13 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 05:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <29d55b2b0610060526x2790f31mab2c5a3bef773ef6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 08:26:21 -0400 From: "Jeff Ratliff" To: "Jokosher Devel List" In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610060405j78c0e83aw7e6ca1788f7b6fbf@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4c91566f0610060405j78c0e83aw7e6ca1788f7b6fbf@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Nyquist plugins X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:26:25 -0000 On 06/10/06, Stuart Langridge wrote: > Audacity does this thing called Nyquist > (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/help/nyquist) which allows people to > write plugins in a text editor and that don't need compilation. Anyone > know if there are gstreamer plans to support it? It'd be good if > Jokosher could take advantage of any Nyquist plugins that get > written... > I looked into learning Nyquist a while back. It's a strange version of Lisp designed for describing transformations to sound files. Surely we could just whip up a Lisp interpreter for Jokosher for version 0.3? :) Actually it seems to be pretty powerful, and it IS an existing scripting language for sound editing. As far as the Gstreamer part, I haven't a clue. -- Jeff Ratliff (Gomer_X) From chris-procter@talk21.com Fri Oct 6 09:13:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 031FE3B0017 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:13:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13179-07 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:13:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.207]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7374F3B01CE for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:13:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9880 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Oct 2006 13:13:22 -0000 Message-ID: <20061006131322.9878.qmail@web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.245.38.105] by web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:13:22 BST Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 14:13:22 +0100 (BST) From: chris procter To: Jokosher gnome In-Reply-To: <29d55b2b0610060526x2790f31mab2c5a3bef773ef6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.269 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.867, BAYES_05=-1.11, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708] X-Spam-Score: -0.269 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Nyquist plugins X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:13:29 -0000 --- Jeff Ratliff wrote: > Surely we could just whip up a Lisp interpreter for > Jokosher for version 0.3? :) "Any sufficiently complicated program contains an ad-hoc, informally-specified bug-ridden slow implementation of half of Common Lisp." — Greenspun's Tenth Rule of Programming So maybe we should bow to the inevitable sooner rather then later :) chris ___________________________________________________________ Try the all-new Yahoo! 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"The New Version is radically easier to use" – The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From chris-procter@talk21.com Fri Oct 6 09:44:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3A43B00B7 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:44:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14721-05 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:44:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web86603.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web86603.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.136]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DC8143B01B8 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:44:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30715 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Oct 2006 13:44:50 -0000 Message-ID: <20061006134450.30713.qmail@web86603.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.245.38.105] by web86603.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:44:50 BST Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 14:44:50 +0100 (BST) From: chris procter To: Jokosher gnome In-Reply-To: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.96 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708] X-Spam-Score: -0.96 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher won't launch after r764. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:44:55 -0000 --- Laszlo Pandy wrote: > With the current revision of SVN, Jokosher fails to > launch complaining > about the inability to register a new GType. Lukas > reported this on IRC > and its really bizarre. I spent some time figuring > out how to fix it, > but I still have no clue why it happened in the > first place: > > /home/laszlo/Software/SVN/jokosher/JonoEdit/trunk/Jokosher/TimeView.py:17: > > Warning: cannot register existing type `TimeView' > class TimeView(gtk.EventBox): > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "./Jokosher/Jokosher", line 105, in ? > localFileOrGlobalFileImport("JokosherApp") > File "./Jokosher/Jokosher", line 33, in > localFileOrGlobalFileImport > globals()[importName] = __import__("Jokosher." > + importName, None, > None, True) > File > "/home/laszlo/Software/SVN/jokosher/JonoEdit/trunk/Jokosher/JokosherApp.py", > > line 14, in ? > import AddInstrumentDialog, TimeView, > CompactMixView > File > "/home/laszlo/Software/SVN/jokosher/JonoEdit/trunk/Jokosher/TimeView.py", > > line 17, in ? > class TimeView(gtk.EventBox): > RuntimeError: could not create new GType > > > I'm not sure why it effects TimeView.py or why it > has anything at all to > do with a GType, but this is caused by python not > being able to find the > pkg_resources module that is used to load python > eggs. It seems you get this error message if you import any unknown module after TimeView.py is imported. Before TimeView.py you get:- Cannot find local file JokosherApp.py. Cannot find system Jokosher installation. instead, which is interesting. I would suspect that python is not generating a stack trace correctly when it fails to import a file, and so we're seeing the previous stack trace that is caught (as I understand python it generates the stack trace then deals with the exception so caught exceptions generate the stack trace but dont display it) I cant prove this of course so I may be wrong, but if you still get this error after installing python-setuptools then you are probably missing another imported module. chris > P.S. Its thanksgiving in Canada this weekend, so I > won't be back until > Tuesday. I'll see everyone then, and hopefully Jono > too :) > > Laszlo Happy thanksgiving :) ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! 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( [74.111.140.109]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id a5sm561914qbd.2006.10.07.08.00.37; Sat, 07 Oct 2006 08:00:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Luke Tilley To: Laszlo Pandy In-Reply-To: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> References: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:01:25 -0400 Message-Id: <1160233286.4975.2.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher gnome Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher won't launch after r764. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2006 15:00:39 -0000 I've been busy over the past few days, so I haven't had time to fiddle around too much with this problem. But anyways, I tried installing the equivalent to python-setuptools on my distro, but i'm still getting the same trace. Any suggestions? On Fri, 2006-10-06 at 02:26 -0400, Laszlo Pandy wrote: > With the current revision of SVN, Jokosher fails to launch complaining > about the inability to register a new GType. Lukas reported this on IRC > and its really bizarre. I spent some time figuring out how to fix it, > but I still have no clue why it happened in the first place: > > /home/laszlo/Software/SVN/jokosher/JonoEdit/trunk/Jokosher/TimeView.py:17: > Warning: cannot register existing type `TimeView' > class TimeView(gtk.EventBox): > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "./Jokosher/Jokosher", line 105, in ? > localFileOrGlobalFileImport("JokosherApp") > File "./Jokosher/Jokosher", line 33, in localFileOrGlobalFileImport > globals()[importName] = __import__("Jokosher." + importName, None, > None, True) > File > "/home/laszlo/Software/SVN/jokosher/JonoEdit/trunk/Jokosher/JokosherApp.py", > line 14, in ? > import AddInstrumentDialog, TimeView, CompactMixView > File > "/home/laszlo/Software/SVN/jokosher/JonoEdit/trunk/Jokosher/TimeView.py", > line 17, in ? > class TimeView(gtk.EventBox): > RuntimeError: could not create new GType > > > I'm not sure why it effects TimeView.py or why it has anything at all to > do with a GType, but this is caused by python not being able to find the > pkg_resources module that is used to load python eggs. > > To fix it just install python-setuptools on Ubuntu, or the equivalent > non-DEB package for everyone else. > > P.S. Its thanksgiving in Canada this weekend, so I won't be back until > Tuesday. I'll see everyone then, and hopefully Jono too :) > > Laszlo > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list From john@thegreens.co.uk Mon Oct 9 04:44:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72DAD3B007F for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 04:44:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12968-01 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 04:44:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.141]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E2C13B006D for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 04:44:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 81937 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2006 08:44:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 2006 08:44:12 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 575DE77E3D; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:44:11 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:44:10 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061009084410.GA4227@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> <1160233286.4975.2.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1160233286.4975.2.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.366 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.164, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.366 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher won't launch after r764. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 08:44:17 -0000 On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 11:01:25AM -0400, Luke Tilley wrote: > I've been busy over the past few days, so I haven't had time to fiddle > around too much with this problem. But anyways, I tried installing the > equivalent to python-setuptools on my distro, but i'm still getting the > same trace. Any suggestions? > Can you import setuptools and pkg_resources inside a python console? If you can't then you don't have everything installed properly that you need. If you can then something else is up here. What's your distribution btw? I think most people here do ubuntu so it would be interesting to see if we have any problems with other distros, particularly regarding dependency issues. -- John Green From sinisterguy@gmail.com Mon Oct 9 10:47:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74CAF3B01F4 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 10:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31451-08 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 10:47:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FECA3B0174 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 10:46:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so2010368nfc for ; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 07:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.80.12 with SMTP id h12mr2150863nfl; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 07:46:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.15.4? ( [74.111.140.109]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id a5sm3374382qbd.2006.10.09.07.46.56; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 07:46:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Luke Tilley To: John Green In-Reply-To: <20061009084410.GA4227@localhost.localdomain> References: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> <1160233286.4975.2.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <20061009084410.GA4227@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 10:47:49 -0400 Message-Id: <1160405270.5163.1.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher won't launch after r764. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:47:04 -0000 I tried importing setuptools and pkg_resources in a python console and it worked. I also changed around the order in which it was imported and it still worked. Something funky's going on. I'm using Arch Linux btw. Its a great distro most of the time. WillySilly on IRC also uses it. On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 09:44 +0100, John Green wrote: > On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 11:01:25AM -0400, Luke Tilley wrote: > > I've been busy over the past few days, so I haven't had time to fiddle > > around too much with this problem. But anyways, I tried installing the > > equivalent to python-setuptools on my distro, but i'm still getting the > > same trace. Any suggestions? > > > Can you import setuptools and pkg_resources inside a python console? If you > can't then you don't have everything installed properly that you need. If > you can then something else is up here. > > What's your distribution btw? I think most people here do ubuntu so it would > be interesting to see if we have any problems with other distros, > particularly regarding dependency issues. 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( [74.111.140.109]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e14sm7131777qba.2006.10.09.08.40.31; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 08:40:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Luke Tilley To: John Green In-Reply-To: <1160405270.5163.1.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> References: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> <1160233286.4975.2.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <20061009084410.GA4227@localhost.localdomain> <1160405270.5163.1.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 11:41:25 -0400 Message-Id: <1160408485.5163.5.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher won't launch after r764. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:40:36 -0000 fixed the problem nibil pointed out on IRC that any module not found imported after TimeView owuld throw the wierd trace, so i went through file by file until I found that I didn't have the python-dbus module installed. So I installed it and now Jokosher's working fine again. On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 10:47 -0400, Luke Tilley wrote: > I tried importing setuptools and pkg_resources in a python console and > it worked. I also changed around the order in which it was imported and > it still worked. Something funky's going on. I'm using Arch Linux btw. > Its a great distro most of the time. WillySilly on IRC also uses it. > > On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 09:44 +0100, John Green wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 11:01:25AM -0400, Luke Tilley wrote: > > > I've been busy over the past few days, so I haven't had time to fiddle > > > around too much with this problem. But anyways, I tried installing the > > > equivalent to python-setuptools on my distro, but i'm still getting the > > > same trace. Any suggestions? > > > > > Can you import setuptools and pkg_resources inside a python console? If you > > can't then you don't have everything installed properly that you need. If > > you can then something else is up here. > > > > What's your distribution btw? I think most people here do ubuntu so it would > > be interesting to see if we have any problems with other distros, > > particularly regarding dependency issues. From john@thegreens.co.uk Mon Oct 9 11:47:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4AFB3B0080 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 11:47:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02637-01 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 11:47:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D47043B000D for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 11:47:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26295 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2006 15:47:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 2006 15:47:34 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 938F277FA4; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 16:47:33 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 16:47:33 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061009154732.GA13991@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> <1160233286.4975.2.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <20061009084410.GA4227@localhost.localdomain> <1160405270.5163.1.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1160405270.5163.1.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.381 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.149, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.381 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher won't launch after r764. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:47:40 -0000 On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 10:47:49AM -0400, Luke Tilley wrote: > I tried importing setuptools and pkg_resources in a python console and > it worked. I also changed around the order in which it was imported and > it still worked. Something funky's going on. I'm using Arch Linux btw. > Its a great distro most of the time. WillySilly on IRC also uses it. > Ok. Then try this next. In the launch script Jokosher (around line 22) comment out the whole try...except...else block and replace it with just the import call. So that the function localFileOrGlobalFileImport() is just def localFileOrGlobalFileImport(importName): globals()[importName] = __import__(importName) and then run it again so that hopefully you only get the *real* error message. This may or may not help -- John Green From john@thegreens.co.uk Mon Oct 9 12:29:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AE163B016B for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 12:29:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04751-07 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 12:29:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.203]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2DF853B0076 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 12:29:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4651 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2006 16:29:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 2006 16:29:35 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EB83877E1F; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 17:29:33 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 17:29:33 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061009162932.GA14789@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> <1160233286.4975.2.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <20061009084410.GA4227@localhost.localdomain> <1160405270.5163.1.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <1160408485.5163.5.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1160408485.5163.5.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.649 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.608, BAYES_05=-1.11, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -0.649 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher won't launch after r764. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 16:29:37 -0000 On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 11:41:25AM -0400, Luke Tilley wrote: > fixed the problem nibil pointed out on IRC that any module not found > imported after TimeView owuld throw the wierd trace, so i went through > file by file until I found that I didn't have the python-dbus module > installed. So I installed it and now Jokosher's working fine again. > Excellent:) I thnk the rather obscure message is caused by something the try.., block in Jokosher is doing because if you comment it out then you get the standard Import Error message. Will look into this later. -- John Green From john@thegreens.co.uk Tue Oct 10 04:49:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0CB3B0243 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 04:49:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16570-08 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 04:49:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.202]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 32C4F3B0221 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 04:49:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 83127 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2006 08:49:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2006 08:49:47 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DD96F77F94; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:49:46 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:49:46 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061010084946.GA6229@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> <1160233286.4975.2.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <20061009084410.GA4227@localhost.localdomain> <1160405270.5163.1.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <1160408485.5163.5.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1160408485.5163.5.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.347 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.183, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.347 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher won't launch after r764. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:49:50 -0000 On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 11:41:25AM -0400, Luke Tilley wrote: > fixed the problem nibil pointed out on IRC that any module not found > imported after TimeView owuld throw the wierd trace, so i went through > file by file until I found that I didn't have the python-dbus module > installed. So I installed it and now Jokosher's working fine again. > This is what I think was happening. The Jokosher launch script is trying to load jokosher modules first from the current directory and then if that fails from a system installation i.e. from PYTHONPATH. It was doing this by first trying to 'import JokosherApp' and if that failed it tried 'import Jokosher.JokosherApp'. If JokosherApp is completely missing from both the current directory and PYTHON PATH then this is OK and everything works. The problem is if there is an exception whilst importing anything that JokosherApp itself imports (and further down the chain). We have a nested try... here and I think in allowing it to continue and try and do the second import after the first failed has a somewhat unpredictable result. Possibly something deep in the bowels of gobject has got run twice when it shouldn't have done (hence the warning about Timeview already being registered just before the exception). In r769 I changed it a bit so it will first look for a file JokosherApp.py in the current directory and if it finds that will import from there. If not it uses imp.find_module() to see if there is a Jokosher.JokosherApp that is importable and if so imports that. If none of these then exit with error. Both the imports are not trapped so if there is a missing module then normal python exception handling prevails. And I hope this fixes it. Unless someone sees something I've missed. -- John Green From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Tue Oct 10 05:21:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635933B0111 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 05:21:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18284-02 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 05:21:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A663B0126 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 05:21:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so242009nfc for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 02:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.111.8 with SMTP id j8mr756697buc; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 02:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 02:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610100221r1e2019cdjec7a9590c28a70e0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:21:25 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Luke Tilley" In-Reply-To: <1160408485.5163.5.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> <1160233286.4975.2.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <20061009084410.GA4227@localhost.localdomain> <1160405270.5163.1.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <1160408485.5163.5.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 03de12bcbfc5dddf X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.424 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.024, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.424 X-Spam-Level: Cc: John Green , jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher won't launch after r764. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:21:28 -0000 On 10/9/06, Luke Tilley wrote: > fixed the problem nibil pointed out on IRC that any module not found > imported after TimeView owuld throw the wierd trace, so i went through > file by file until I found that I didn't have the python-dbus module > installed. So I installed it and now Jokosher's working fine again. That should be added to our "check that you have the right stuff installed" bit when Jokosher starts up, as should setuptools. sil -- docs are for the weak! you must divine the meaning of gnonlin through inner contemplation -- #jokosher From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Tue Oct 10 05:34:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65693B0199 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 05:34:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18701-05 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 05:34:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE5C3B0138 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 05:34:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so245757nfc for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 02:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.123.16 with SMTP id v16mr754440buc; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 02:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 02:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610100234wfbce582s31d297dd92eeacd8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:34:24 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Jokosher Devel List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1b8418cc238ad26c X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.423 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.023, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.423 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:34:30 -0000 Excellent work on the ExtensionsAsEggs page on the wiki, I have to say! I have had a thought. Do we think it's worth having a special filetype for J extensions? My oh-so-clever run-an-extension-directly trick doesn't work with .egg files anyway, so I wonder whether we should just make both .py extensions and .egg extensions be called .jokosher-extension or similar. That has a few benefits: 1. It makes it very clear that something's a Jokosher extension 2. We get a nice icon for them 3. We can ship a tiny program that .jokosher-extension files are associated with; when someone clicks one directly to run it, the little program says "this is a Jokosher extension; would you like to install it?" and then moves it to the .jokosher/extensions folder if they say yes (this is what the oh-so-clever code does, but it doesn't work for .egg files and it's too complicated anyway) 4. It makes it a lot easier to build the Big Directory Of Extensions on extensions.jokosher.org at some point in the future, because it's just the results of a filetype:jokosher-extension Google search :) 5. If you have an extension file and don't have Jokosher, it should at least allow you to guess what it is if it's called whatever.jokosher-extension Downsides: 1. I don't know whether Nautilus will actually recognise files as J extensions just because of a filename; they are *actually* .py or .zip files under the covers. What does Nautilus do with .egg? 2. The file doesn't do anything at all if you have one and don't have Jokosher installed, even if you run it. (That's the case for .egg files anyway, though.) sil -- "Out of the frying pan and into the very same, identical frying-pan. Smegging great." -- Lister, "Last Human" From john@thegreens.co.uk Tue Oct 10 06:38:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9A13B00DC for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 06:38:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21592-10 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 06:38:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B32D43B0061 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 06:38:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 79210 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2006 10:38:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2006 10:38:26 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1345077F94; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:38:25 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:38:25 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061010103825.GA8443@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4c91566f0610100234wfbce582s31d297dd92eeacd8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610100234wfbce582s31d297dd92eeacd8@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.36 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.170, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.36 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:38:32 -0000 On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 10:34:24AM +0100, Stuart Langridge wrote: > I have had a thought. Do we think it's worth having a special filetype > for J extensions? In principle yes. However atm Extension.py is looking at the extension to decide how to treat it (either .py or .egg). We'd have to come up with of another way of differentiating them. There is another problem with extensions that occurs to me. Extensions are meant to provide functionality that is not in core jokosher. You should also be allowed to cater for dependencies that are not in core jokosher. E.g. I have in the back of mind an idea of connecting from my phone using bluetooth. Whether this would actually work or not I don't know but it would mean the extension importing lots of dependencies that are completely useless for anyone without bluetooth capability on their machine. The question is what to do about these missing dependencies. We can trap for these on startup (it goes down in Extension.LoadAllExtensions()) but what do we do? Do we simply display the error? We could offer to disable any that can't be resolved so it only happens the once which might be friendlier. I don't know. -- John Green From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Tue Oct 10 06:49:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9E23B0192 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 06:49:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22693-07 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 06:49:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B273B0199 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 06:49:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so267791nfc for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 03:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.109.19 with SMTP id h19mr761510buc; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 03:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 03:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610100349i14bc9ef4u402515588101af9a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:49:28 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20061010103825.GA8443@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4c91566f0610100234wfbce582s31d297dd92eeacd8@mail.gmail.com> <20061010103825.GA8443@localhost.localdomain> X-Google-Sender-Auth: ff3c653e7b834c1c X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.422 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.422 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:49:30 -0000 > In principle yes. However atm Extension.py is looking at the extension to > decide how to treat it (either .py or .egg). We'd have to come up with of > another way of differentiating them. That's OK, though; you can test whether something's an egg file with the zipfile module. > There is another problem with extensions that occurs to me. Extensions are > meant to provide functionality that is not in core jokosher. You should also > be allowed to cater for dependencies that are not in core jokosher. E.g. I > have in the back of mind an idea of connecting from my phone using > bluetooth. Whether this would actually work or not I don't know but it would > mean the extension importing lots of dependencies that are completely > useless for anyone without bluetooth capability on their machine. The > question is what to do about these missing dependencies. We can trap for > these on startup (it goes down in Extension.LoadAllExtensions()) but what do > we do? The extension should handle that, in a perfect world. It should neatly not offer its functionality, or maybe add a menu item that just pops up a "you need the bluetooth libraries" dialog, if it doesn't have all its dependencies. All we should do in Extension.py is trap a failed import (if the extension just tries to import something that isn't there without checking, or any other error) and print to the debug log "Import of extension Whatever failed", which we already do. In the future, when the Extension Manager exists, we can have it display what the error was, and give people a chance of fixing it, but that's the Extension Manager's job. sil -- 2. Make it halfway normal. I don't have any use for laser-beam-shooting pocket combs, or non-existent existents existing within their own existences, or ballpoint pens made out of lettuce. -- CardinalT dictates rules for the raif Silly Game From jonobacon@gmail.com Tue Oct 10 19:33:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868163B00BC for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 19:33:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31124-07 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 19:33:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5E13B02EB for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 19:33:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so485828nfc for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:33:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.90.10 with SMTP id n10mr63995hub; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:33:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.136.18 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:33:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610101633j3d18464bkd68df2f8f3c6470@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 00:33:01 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "Jokosher Devel List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.445 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.045, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.445 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Hackfest, close to feature freeze, and stuff to do X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:33:11 -0000 Hi all, Well, we freeze for the rather exciting 0.2 release on Nov 1st and we still have some chunks of stuff to write. I just spoke to Luke and John and they are working on the Extensions Manager and converting extensions to egg files, I am working on some remaining effects bits and pieces and I believe Laszlo is working on the volume fades. Have you made any progress on the fades code Laszlo? If you are stuck, give us a shout - I have done some GnlOperations code before. It is important that we try and get them nailed by Nov 1st as Jeff needs to write the docs for 0.2 and we then need to get into bugfixing mode. Finally, this Sunday is our Jokosher hackfest. This is going to be a good opportunity to get the full team together and nailing some of these remaining things. As usual it takes place in #jokosher on irc.freenode.net. I would encourage the art team to be there as we still have some remaining icons that need completing. :) Jono From john@thegreens.co.uk Wed Oct 11 04:57:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A608A3B0323 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 04:57:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22928-06 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 04:57:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.203]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A1C63B002A for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 04:57:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13590 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2006 08:57:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Oct 2006 08:57:47 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B25DB77FA4; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:57:46 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:57:46 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061011085746.GA8446@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4c91566f0610100234wfbce582s31d297dd92eeacd8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610100234wfbce582s31d297dd92eeacd8@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.627 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.586, BAYES_05=-1.11, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -0.627 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 08:57:51 -0000 On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 10:34:24AM +0100, Stuart Langridge wrote: > I have had a thought. Do we think it's worth having a special filetype > for J extensions? My oh-so-clever run-an-extension-directly trick > doesn't work with .egg files anyway, so I wonder whether we should > just make both .py extensions and .egg extensions be called > .jokosher-extension or similar. That has a few benefits: A little snag. It doesn't work if the filename isn't .egg. pkg_resources.working_set.add_entry() adds the filename to the list but pkg_resources.iter_entry_points() won't come up with the goods. Maybe it only looks at .egg files in the list. It was a good idea though. -- John Green From snecklifter@gmail.com Thu Oct 12 18:32:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5143A3B007C for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:32:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04772-05 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:32:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2412E3B0072 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:32:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so1299235nfc for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.48.18 with SMTP id v18mr5894534nfv; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.223.5 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <364d303b0610121532j51455c83x4dc2f0e95660c99e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 23:32:11 +0100 From: "Chris Brown" To: "Jokosher gnome" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.325 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.414, BAYES_05=-1.11, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.325 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Linuxworld London X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:32:13 -0000 Hi Folks, I'm having to welch on my deal to man the Jokosher booth. Therefore if someone is available to replace me at such short notice I would be grateful and would feel slightly less of a wanker. I believe John Green said he may be available for one or both days. Jono suggested two people so that one can wander off for lunch and to have a look around and just generally share duties. Again, my apologies for this. It is not what I wanted. I am also having to retire from commitments of any kind to the project as a whole. I will be documenting as much as I can on the wiki and should still be contactable my email if there are any urgent questions. Regards Chris From john@thegreens.co.uk Thu Oct 12 20:05:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BEAA3B007C for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:05:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08768-05 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:05:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.203]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88E003B013E for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:05:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 56262 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2006 00:05:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Oct 2006 00:05:23 -0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2858C77D71 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 01:05:23 +0100 (BST) From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 01:05:18 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610130105.19339.john@thegreens.co.uk> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.551 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.587, BAYES_05=-1.11, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069, TW_SV=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -0.551 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Subversion directory structure for extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 00:05:27 -0000 In r771 I moved the directory structure around a bit for the extensions that I converted to eggs. (I left Freesound alone as I think Aq is currently working on it). So the layout is now: extensions/ trunk/ eggs/ Extension_1/ setup_py src/ Extension1.py Extension1.glade __init__.py . . . Extension_2/ . . . extensions/ Extension_1.egg Extension_2.egg . . . SimpleExtension.py This is to allow the directory structure needed to build the egg files. If you modify , say Extension1.py then you need to run it's setup script to rebuild the egg.. The command is 'python setup.py bdist_egg'.This builds the egg in a dist/ sub-directory. There is a line at the end of the script to copy the egg up to the extensions/trunk/extensions directory. So this directory contains all the extensions ready for deployment. You can copy these into ~/.jokosher/extensions or, if you add this directory to JOKOSHER_EXTENSION_DIRS then svn up will be all you need do to update. The build process creates other directories: build/ ,dist/ and Extension.egg-info but I think that these are only intermediary and no interest to svn so, for the ones I did I set svn:ignore appropriately. -- John Green john@thegreens.co.uk From laszlok2@gmail.com Thu Oct 12 22:06:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C57E3B007C for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:06:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13343-08 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:06:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B20213B0012 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so347057nzn for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.97.18 with SMTP id z18mr3913133qbl; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e13sm3663803qba.2006.10.12.19.06.45; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <452EF4B3.9080000@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:06:43 -0400 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Green References: <200610130105.19339.john@thegreens.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200610130105.19339.john@thegreens.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Subversion directory structure for extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 02:06:54 -0000 John Green wrote: > In r771 I moved the directory structure around a bit for the extensions that I > converted to eggs. (I left Freesound alone as I think Aq is currently working > on it). So the layout is now: > > extensions/ > trunk/ > eggs/ > Extension_1/ > setup_py > src/ > Extension1.py > Extension1.glade > __init__.py > . . . > Extension_2/ > . . . > extensions/ > Extension_1.egg > Extension_2.egg > . . . > SimpleExtension.py > > This is to allow the directory structure needed to build the egg files. If > you modify , say Extension1.py then you need to run it's setup script to > rebuild the egg.. The command is 'python setup.py bdist_egg'.This builds the > egg in a dist/ sub-directory. There is a line at the end of the script to > copy the egg up to the extensions/trunk/extensions directory. extensions/trunk/extensions seemed a little redundant to me. The egg sources are still in extensions/trunk/eggs/, but I have put all the build eggs as well as the stand alone py files in extensions/trunk/. I have also modified the scripts to copy to this directory instead of the old one. Laszlo From daniel.holbach@ubuntu.com Fri Oct 13 10:44:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423663B0367 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:44:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15786-07 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:44:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fellatio.deswahnsinns.de (langweiligneutral.deswahnsinns.de [80.69.46.90]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3533B01B8 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:44:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [87.123.56.121] (HELO [192.168.1.101]) by fellatio.deswahnsinns.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 1653796 for jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:42:16 +0200 From: Daniel Holbach To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-xWec4Tj31yJiVr6qK8b/" Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:42:14 +0200 Message-Id: <1160750534.16456.2.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.577 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.577 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] [Fwd: Re: Moving icons] X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:44:50 -0000 --=-xWec4Tj31yJiVr6qK8b/ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-zXDHbauYfqOyckl0HoFq" --=-zXDHbauYfqOyckl0HoFq Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Forwarding Michael's message, as he is not on the list. Have a nice day, Daniel --=-zXDHbauYfqOyckl0HoFq Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Weitergeleitete Nachricht - Re: [jokosher-devel] Moving icons Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 X-Real-To: Received: from fiordland.ubuntu.com ([82.211.81.145] verified) by fellatio.deswahnsinns.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 1653761 for dh@mailempfang.de; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:35:49 +0200 Received-SPF: fail receiver=fellatio.deswahnsinns.de; client-ip=82.211.81.145; envelope-from=sir.mvo@gmx.de Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by fiordland.ubuntu.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 860EBB68194 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:35:45 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Oct 2006 14:35:45 -0000 Received: from pD951E681.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO top.ping.de) [217.81.230.129] by mail.gmx.net (mp038) with SMTP; 13 Oct 2006 16:35:45 +0200 X-Authenticated: #18895133 Received: by top.ping.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3FCDA14010D; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:35:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:35:42 +0200 From: Michael Vogt To: Daniel Holbach Cc: Jokosher Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Moving icons Message-ID: <20061013143541.GV6521@top.ping.de> References: <364d303b0609260423n31d4c921p323907edd1337d2a@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0609260440j70e18792o6cd33bcfc2904558@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0609260441y27c4ff3ak60f88ef2c3c66397@mail.gmail.com> <1159275302.4995.3.camel@localhost> <4519CF31.1050309@gmail.com> <1159343307.16477.6.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1159343307.16477.6.camel@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 09:48:27AM +0200, Daniel Holbach wrote: > Hello Laszlo, Hi, sorry for my late reply, the mail somehow slipped under my radar. Thanks to Daniel for reminding me about it :) =20 > thanks for taking the time to reply and figure it out. >=20 > Am Dienstag, den 26.09.2006, 21:09 -0400 schrieb Laszlo Pandy: > > Mostly I just want to know why=20 > > we use need to use POTFILES.in and not just run the translations merge=20 > > on all *.py files? >=20 > I took a look at Michael's gnome-app-install and together with him > applied the changes to jokosher. Using POTFILES.in is the canonical way > of dealing with translations - you will find it in other projects as > well. >=20 > I CCed Michael, I'm sure he has some *clever* reply. :-) It is there to have intltool-update working. I personally like it a lot (stuff like --maintain or --report). But of course the current makefile is fine as well if you don't need intltool-update. It can be a bit anoyning to use POTFILES.in because one needs to remember to add new files to it. The beste solution would be if the setuptools would grow gettext support one day. =20 > > Also what happened to these two lines which grab translation template=20 > > strings from the glade file and the instrument files?: > >=20 > > python i18nReadInstr.py ../../Instruments/*.instr > i18n.instr.h > > xgettext -k_ -kN_ -o $@ ../../Jokosher.glade.h ../../*.py i18n.instr.h >=20 > I'm not sure - it's been a while since I looked at it - wouldn't it > suffice to add them to POTFILES.in? [..] The format that is used in jokosher is apparently not compatible with the way that intltool expects ini files. It expects input like e.g. cello.instr.in:=20 [core] _name =3D Cello icon =3D cello.png type =3D cello and will write out: cello.instr [core] name =3D Cello name[en] =3D Cello icon =3D cello.png type =3D cello So with the current way that a instr file looks like this won't work and the proposed patch needs to be reverted for this. Changing the format to something like the above may mean that code that parses desktop files can be (re-)used easily to read instr files and that intltool and can be used to scan the instr files without the need for a custom script. So it may be a win to consider that format. But I know too little about the instr format to see what drawbacks such a change might have. Cheers, Michael --=20 Linux is not The Answer. Yes is the answer. Linux is The Question. - Neo --=-zXDHbauYfqOyckl0HoFq-- --=-xWec4Tj31yJiVr6qK8b/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBFL6XGr3O2CKlAUK8RAqbnAJ40HfOTL5/rhbIfZ7dOpQpRRKAEpgCfY+Ng +0m6IXIGP7q5ZGQpjDuP2FE= =tpj5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-xWec4Tj31yJiVr6qK8b/-- From sir.mvo@gmx.de Fri Oct 13 10:35:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D440A3B008F for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15445-05 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:35:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 001143B00AA for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:35:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Oct 2006 14:35:45 -0000 Received: from pD951E681.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO top.ping.de) [217.81.230.129] by mail.gmx.net (mp038) with SMTP; 13 Oct 2006 16:35:45 +0200 X-Authenticated: #18895133 Received: by top.ping.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3FCDA14010D; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:35:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:35:42 +0200 From: Michael Vogt To: Daniel Holbach Message-ID: <20061013143541.GV6521@top.ping.de> References: <364d303b0609260423n31d4c921p323907edd1337d2a@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0609260440j70e18792o6cd33bcfc2904558@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0609260441y27c4ff3ak60f88ef2c3c66397@mail.gmail.com> <1159275302.4995.3.camel@localhost> <4519CF31.1050309@gmail.com> <1159343307.16477.6.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1159343307.16477.6.camel@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.465 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.465 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:04:35 -0400 Cc: Jokosher Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Moving icons X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:35:53 -0000 On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 09:48:27AM +0200, Daniel Holbach wrote: > Hello Laszlo, Hi, sorry for my late reply, the mail somehow slipped under my radar. Thanks to Daniel for reminding me about it :) > thanks for taking the time to reply and figure it out. > > Am Dienstag, den 26.09.2006, 21:09 -0400 schrieb Laszlo Pandy: > > Mostly I just want to know why > > we use need to use POTFILES.in and not just run the translations merge > > on all *.py files? > > I took a look at Michael's gnome-app-install and together with him > applied the changes to jokosher. Using POTFILES.in is the canonical way > of dealing with translations - you will find it in other projects as > well. > > I CCed Michael, I'm sure he has some *clever* reply. :-) It is there to have intltool-update working. I personally like it a lot (stuff like --maintain or --report). But of course the current makefile is fine as well if you don't need intltool-update. It can be a bit anoyning to use POTFILES.in because one needs to remember to add new files to it. The beste solution would be if the setuptools would grow gettext support one day. > > Also what happened to these two lines which grab translation template > > strings from the glade file and the instrument files?: > > > > python i18nReadInstr.py ../../Instruments/*.instr > i18n.instr.h > > xgettext -k_ -kN_ -o $@ ../../Jokosher.glade.h ../../*.py i18n.instr.h > > I'm not sure - it's been a while since I looked at it - wouldn't it > suffice to add them to POTFILES.in? [..] The format that is used in jokosher is apparently not compatible with the way that intltool expects ini files. It expects input like e.g. cello.instr.in: [core] _name = Cello icon = cello.png type = cello and will write out: cello.instr [core] name = Cello name[en] = Cello icon = cello.png type = cello So with the current way that a instr file looks like this won't work and the proposed patch needs to be reverted for this. Changing the format to something like the above may mean that code that parses desktop files can be (re-)used easily to read instr files and that intltool and can be used to scan the instr files without the need for a custom script. So it may be a win to consider that format. But I know too little about the instr format to see what drawbacks such a change might have. Cheers, Michael -- Linux is not The Answer. Yes is the answer. Linux is The Question. - Neo From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Sun Oct 15 03:58:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19AFB3B0008 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 03:58:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28572-07 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 03:58:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA4E3B016C for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 03:58:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1778287nfa for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.126.19 with SMTP id y19mr773849buc; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610150057k4cf8c31bt97a89bbdcddb03a8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 08:57:27 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Jokosher Devel List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 885e8fd3a8dd85aa X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.421 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.021, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.421 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Running J X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 07:58:11 -0000 While I appreciate and completely agree with the idea that running Jokosher needs to be trivial for users and you don't optimise this for developers, the line I need to now use to run my uninstalled Jokosher checkout is JOKOSHER_DATA_PATH=Jokosher JOKOSHER_IMAGE_PATH=images PYTHONPATH=. Jokosher/Jokosher --debug it's been getting steadily more complicated over time. Does it really have to be this hard? It makes it difficult for new hackers to get involved; as I said above, I understand completely that that's not who you optimise for, but isn't it possible to do both? sil -- If hard data were the filtering criterion you could fit the entire contents of the Internet on a floppy disk. -- Cecil Adams From john@thegreens.co.uk Sun Oct 15 06:14:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADD23B0164 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 06:14:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21072-03 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 06:14:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.142]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A7A803B0131 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 06:14:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 85016 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2006 10:14:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Oct 2006 10:14:16 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 143EC77E85; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:14:16 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:14:15 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061015101415.GA15969@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4c91566f0610150057k4cf8c31bt97a89bbdcddb03a8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610150057k4cf8c31bt97a89bbdcddb03a8@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.093 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.977, BAYES_40=-0.185, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -0.093 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Running J X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:14:19 -0000 On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 08:57:27AM +0100, Stuart Langridge wrote: > developers, the line I need to now use to run my uninstalled Jokosher > checkout is > > JOKOSHER_DATA_PATH=Jokosher JOKOSHER_IMAGE_PATH=images PYTHONPATH=. > Jokosher/Jokosher --debug > I run from the path with the Jokosher script in and that's just ./Jokosher possibly with a -d after it. That's quite straightforward I think -- John Green From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Sun Oct 15 07:43:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E0B3B00B7 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 07:43:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24993-08 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 07:43:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BB63B0008 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 07:43:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1817414nfa for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 04:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.129.8 with SMTP id b8mr789898bud; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 04:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 04:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610150443k2af54da3nef70b539988b4782@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:43:02 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20061015101415.GA15969@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4c91566f0610150057k4cf8c31bt97a89bbdcddb03a8@mail.gmail.com> <20061015101415.GA15969@localhost.localdomain> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6dbf139c1c18709c X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.676 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.765, BAYES_05=-1.11, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.676 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Running J X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:43:06 -0000 > I run from the path with the Jokosher script in and that's just > > ./Jokosher > > possibly with a -d after it. That's quite straightforward I think Hmph. I'm sure that didn't used to work :) si "ok, ok, I'm an idiot" l -- If God didn't want us to eat meat, then he wouldn't have invented the hamburger, would he? Logic. -- Bevier, alt.fan.eddings From joe@fatnsoft.com Sun Oct 15 22:09:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC4C3B008D for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:09:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32671-01 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:09:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apollo.arandomserver.com (32.d2.5546.static.theplanet.com [70.85.210.50]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05DA3B0087 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:09:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fatnsoft by apollo.arandomserver.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1GZHvF-0002JI-Ei for jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:09:45 -0400 Received: from 127.0.0.1 ([127.0.0.1]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user joe@fatnsoft.com) by tennies.us with HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:09:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37832.127.0.0.1.1160964585.squirrel@tennies.us> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:09:45 -0400 (EDT) From: joe@fatnsoft.com To: "Jokosher Mailing List" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;boundary="----=_20061015220945_89582" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - apollo.arandomserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32725 500] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - fatnsoft.com X-Source: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php /usr/local/cpanel/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src/compose.php X-Source-Dir: :/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.503 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, NO_REAL_NAME=0.961] X-Spam-Score: -1.503 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] [Fwd: Patches for GNOME Audio Profiles] X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:09:41 -0000 ------=_20061015220945_89582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Patches for GNOME Audio Profiles From: joe@fatnsoft.com Date: Sun, October 15, 2006 9:29 pm To: jokosher-devel-list-request@gnome.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------- update_api.diff includes the fixes to be able to add export types. GNOMEAudioProfiles.py is an extension to add the GNOME Audio Profiles to the export types ------=_20061015220945_89582 Content-Type: text/x-patch; name="update_api.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="update_api.diff" Index: Jokosher/Extension.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/Extension.py (revision 808) +++ Jokosher/Extension.py (working copy) @@ -459,7 +459,7 @@ if not description or not extension and not pipelineString: return 1 try: - bin = gst.gst_parse_bin_from_description(encodeBin) + bin = gst.gst_parse_bin_from_description("fakesrc ! " + encodeBin, True) del bin except gobject.GError: return 2 ------=_20061015220945_89582 Content-Type: text/x-python; name="GNOMEAudioProfiles.py" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="GNOMEAudioProfiles.py" # GNOMEAudioProfiles.py # -------------------- # This extension is for adding the GNOME Audio Profiles into Jokosher import Jokosher.Extension import gconf import traceback EXTENSION_NAME = "GNOME Audio Profiles" EXTENSION_DESCRIPTION = "Imports GNOME Audio Profiles into jokosher" EXTENSION_VERSION = "0.0.1" _GCONF_PROFILE_PATH = "/system/gstreamer/0.10/audio/profiles/" _GCONF_PROFILE_LIST_PATH = "/system/gstreamer/0.10/audio/global/profile_list" def startup(api): _GCONF = gconf.client_get_default() profiles = _GCONF.get_list(_GCONF_PROFILE_LIST_PATH, 1) print profiles for name in profiles: if (_GCONF.get_bool(_GCONF_PROFILE_PATH + name + "/active")): description = _GCONF.get_string(_GCONF_PROFILE_PATH + name + "/name") + " (GNOME Audio Profile)" extension = _GCONF.get_string(_GCONF_PROFILE_PATH + name + "/extension") encodeBin = _GCONF.get_string(_GCONF_PROFILE_PATH + name + "/pipeline") error = api.add_export_format(description, extension, encodeBin) ------=_20061015220945_89582-- From joe@fatnsoft.com Sun Oct 15 23:42:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7623B006E for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:42:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03168-07 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:42:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apollo.arandomserver.com (32.d2.5546.static.theplanet.com [70.85.210.50]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372543B0092 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:42:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fatnsoft by apollo.arandomserver.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1GZJMt-00069t-7B for jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:42:23 -0400 Received: from 127.0.0.1 ([127.0.0.1]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user joe@fatnsoft.com) by tennies.us with HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:42:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <40559.127.0.0.1.1160970143.squirrel@tennies.us> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:42:23 -0400 (EDT) From: joe@fatnsoft.com To: "Jokosher Mailing List" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;boundary="----=_20061015234223_18900" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - apollo.arandomserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32725 500] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - fatnsoft.com X-Source: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php /usr/local/cpanel/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src/compose.php X-Source-Dir: :/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.503 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, NO_REAL_NAME=0.961] X-Spam-Score: -1.503 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Patches for GNOME Audio Profiles and Extensions API X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:42:21 -0000 ------=_20061015234223_18900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit One patch removes a debugging print from GNOME Audio Profiles.py. The other adds and uses a decorator around the exported functions. The decorator does not allow exceptions to pass beyond the Jokosher API and returns a -1 error code instead. I have 2 patches as I checked out Jokosher and the extensions at different times and places. ------=_20061015234223_18900 Content-Type: text/x-patch; name="remove_print.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="remove_print.diff" Index: GNOMEAudioProfiles.py =================================================================== --- GNOMEAudioProfiles.py (revision 812) +++ GNOMEAudioProfiles.py (working copy) @@ -8,14 +8,13 @@ EXTENSION_NAME = "GNOME Audio Profiles" EXTENSION_DESCRIPTION = "Imports GNOME Audio Profiles into jokosher" -EXTENSION_VERSION = "0.0.1" +EXTENSION_VERSION = "0.0.2" _GCONF_PROFILE_PATH = "/system/gstreamer/0.10/audio/profiles/" _GCONF_PROFILE_LIST_PATH = "/system/gstreamer/0.10/audio/global/profile_list" def startup(api): _GCONF = gconf.client_get_default() profiles = _GCONF.get_list(_GCONF_PROFILE_LIST_PATH, 1) - print profiles for name in profiles: if (_GCONF.get_bool(_GCONF_PROFILE_PATH + name + "/active")): description = _GCONF.get_string(_GCONF_PROFILE_PATH + name + "/name") + " (.%s)" ------=_20061015234223_18900 Content-Type: text/x-patch; name="update_api.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="update_api.diff" Index: Jokosher/Extension.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/Extension.py (revision 808) +++ Jokosher/Extension.py (working copy) @@ -459,7 +459,7 @@ if not description or not extension and not pipelineString: return 1 try: - bin = gst.gst_parse_bin_from_description(encodeBin) + bin = gst.gst_parse_bin_from_description("fakesrc ! " + encodeBin, True) del bin except gobject.GError: return 2 ------=_20061015234223_18900-- From laszlok2@gmail.com Mon Oct 16 00:13:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D443B00B9 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:13:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04146-09 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:13:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B453B00DE for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:13:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id x66so2074539pye for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.234.2 with SMTP id l2mr9237160qbr; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:13:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id f18sm8497146qba.2006.10.15.21.13.09; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:13:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <453306D0.8090003@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:13:04 -0400 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: joe@fatnsoft.com References: <40559.127.0.0.1.1160970143.squirrel@tennies.us> In-Reply-To: <40559.127.0.0.1.1160970143.squirrel@tennies.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Mailing List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Patches for GNOME Audio Profiles and Extensions API X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:13:22 -0000 joe@fatnsoft.com wrote: > One patch removes a debugging print from GNOME Audio Profiles.py. The > other adds and uses a decorator around the exported functions. Okay, just next time remember to do that you before you sumbit the patch. The > decorator does not allow exceptions to pass beyond the Jokosher API and > returns a -1 error code instead. You seem to have attached the wrong patch. This one has already been commited: > > Index: Jokosher/Extension.py > =================================================================== > --- Jokosher/Extension.py (revision 808) > +++ Jokosher/Extension.py (working copy) > @@ -459,7 +459,7 @@ > if not description or not extension and not pipelineString: > return 1 > try: > - bin = gst.gst_parse_bin_from_description(encodeBin) > + bin = gst.gst_parse_bin_from_description("fakesrc ! " + encodeBin, True) > del bin > except gobject.GError: > return 2 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list From joe@fatnsoft.com Mon Oct 16 01:41:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673A33B008D for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:41:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07624-03 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:41:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apollo.arandomserver.com (32.d2.5546.static.theplanet.com [70.85.210.50]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8063B00A6 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:41:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fatnsoft by apollo.arandomserver.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1GZLES-0005uk-Kk; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:41:48 -0400 Received: from 127.0.0.1 ([127.0.0.1]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user joe@fatnsoft.com) by tennies.us with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:41:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <44629.127.0.0.1.1160977308.squirrel@tennies.us> In-Reply-To: <453306D0.8090003@gmail.com> References: <40559.127.0.0.1.1160970143.squirrel@tennies.us> <453306D0.8090003@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:41:48 -0400 (EDT) From: joe@fatnsoft.com To: "Laszlo Pandy" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;boundary="----=_20061016014148_48220" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - apollo.arandomserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32725 500] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - fatnsoft.com X-Source: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php /usr/local/cpanel/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src/compose.php X-Source-Dir: :/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.465 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.038, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, NO_REAL_NAME=0.961, TW_SV=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -1.465 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Mailing List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Patches for GNOME Audio Profiles and Extensions API X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:41:44 -0000 ------=_20061016014148_48220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sorry. Didn't do a svn update before doing the svn diff. Now attached is a patch against current svn version > joe@fatnsoft.com wrote: >> One patch removes a debugging print from GNOME Audio Profiles.py. The >> other adds and uses a decorator around the exported functions. > > Okay, just next time remember to do that you before you sumbit the patch. > > The >> decorator does not allow exceptions to pass beyond the Jokosher API and >> returns a -1 error code instead. > > You seem to have attached the wrong patch. > This one has already been commited: > >> >> Index: Jokosher/Extension.py >> =================================================================== >> --- Jokosher/Extension.py (revision 808) >> +++ Jokosher/Extension.py (working copy) >> @@ -459,7 +459,7 @@ >> if not description or not extension and not pipelineString: >> return 1 >> try: >> - bin = gst.gst_parse_bin_from_description(encodeBin) >> + bin = gst.gst_parse_bin_from_description("fakesrc ! " + encodeBin, >> True) >> del bin >> except gobject.GError: >> return 2 >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> jokosher-devel-list mailing list >> jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > > ------=_20061016014148_48220 Content-Type: text/x-patch; name="update_api.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="update_api.diff" Index: Jokosher/Extension.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/Extension.py (revision 808) +++ Jokosher/Extension.py (working copy) @@ -459,7 +459,7 @@ if not description or not extension and not pipelineString: return 1 try: - bin = gst.gst_parse_bin_from_description(encodeBin) + bin = gst.gst_parse_bin_from_description("fakesrc ! " + encodeBin, True) del bin except gobject.GError: return 2 ------=_20061016014148_48220-- From joe@fatnsoft.com Mon Oct 16 02:34:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37A83B0077 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:34:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09702-04 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:34:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apollo.arandomserver.com (32.d2.5546.static.theplanet.com [70.85.210.50]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3F13B00C1 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:34:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fatnsoft by apollo.arandomserver.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1GZM3s-0003nB-SO for jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:34:56 -0400 Received: from 127.0.0.1 ([127.0.0.1]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user joe@fatnsoft.com) by tennies.us with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:34:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <46153.127.0.0.1.1160980496.squirrel@tennies.us> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:34:56 -0400 (EDT) From: joe@fatnsoft.com To: "Jokosher Mailing List" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;boundary="----=_20061016023456_61462" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - apollo.arandomserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32725 500] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - fatnsoft.com X-Source: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php /usr/local/cpanel/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src/compose.php X-Source-Dir: :/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.495 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, NO_REAL_NAME=0.961] X-Spam-Score: -1.495 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Updated Extension patch X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:34:54 -0000 ------=_20061016023456_61462 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This contains 2 changes over the previous Extension patch. First, the decorator now sets the name, which keeps the API console happy when doing a dir. Second, Extensions will no longer load if they don't have a name, description, and version. NOTE: This breaks Aq's FreeSound Extension (should just need to set those variables). This keeps extensions from being loaded but not appearing in the Extension Manager. ------=_20061016023456_61462 Content-Type: text/x-patch; name="Extension.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Extension.diff" Index: Jokosher/Extension.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/Extension.py (revision 813) +++ Jokosher/Extension.py (working copy) @@ -3,6 +3,7 @@ import os, gtk, imp, pickle, Globals, pkg_resources import gettext +import traceback _ = gettext.gettext @@ -82,10 +83,29 @@ import ConfigParser import gst, gobject +def exported_function(f): + """ + Wraps any exported functions so that exceptions do not cross the exported API. + Any exceptions caught by this should be a return error code from exported function. + """ + def wrapped(*args, **kwargs): + try: + result = f(*args, **kwargs) + return result + except: + Globals.debug("EXPORTED API BUG:\nUnhandled exception thrown in exported function: " + + f.func_name + "\n" + traceback.format_exc()) + return -1 + wrapped.__doc__ = f.__doc__ + "\n-1: Unhandled exception (bug) in Jokosher" + wrapped.__name__ = f.func_name + return wrapped + class ExtensionAPI: + def __init__(self, mainapp): self.mainapp = mainapp - + + @exported_function def add_menu_item(self, menu_item_name, callback_function): """ Adds a menu item to a Jokosher extension menu. @@ -95,6 +115,7 @@ new_menu_item.connect("activate", callback_function) extensions_menu.prepend(new_menu_item) + @exported_function def play(self, play_state=True): """ If play_state is True, it will play the project from the beginning. @@ -105,14 +126,16 @@ if play_state: #Commence playing self.mainapp.Play() - + + @exported_function def stop(self): """ Stops the project if it is currently playing. Same as play(play_state=False) """ self.mainapp.Stop() - + + @exported_function def add_file_to_selected_instrument(self, uri, position=0): """ Creates a new event from the file at the given URI and @@ -136,6 +159,7 @@ #TODO: find out if the add failed and return 1 return 0 + @exported_function def add_file_to_instrument(self, instr_id, uri, position=0): """ Creates a new event from the file at the given URI and @@ -153,6 +177,7 @@ return 2 + @exported_function def list_available_instrument_types(self): """ Returns a list of tuples in the format: @@ -163,6 +188,7 @@ """ return [(x[0], x[1], x[2].copy()) for x in Globals.getCachedInstruments()] + @exported_function def add_instrument(self, instr_type, instr_name=None): """ Adds an instrument with the type 'instr_type' and @@ -185,6 +211,7 @@ return instr_index return -1 + @exported_function def list_project_instruments(self): """ Returns a list of tuples in the format: @@ -193,6 +220,7 @@ """ return [(instr.id, instr.name, instr.instrType, instr.pixbuf.copy()) for instr in self.mainapp.project.instruments] + @exported_function def delete_instrument(self, instrumentID): """ Removes the instrument with the ID @@ -221,6 +249,7 @@ config_dict_fn = os.path.join(CONFIGPATH,mycaller + ".config") return os.path.normpath(config_dict_fn) + @exported_function def get_config_value(self, key): """ Returns the config value saved under this key, @@ -237,6 +266,7 @@ except: return None + @exported_function def set_config_value(self, key, value): """ Sets a new config value under key for later retrieval. @@ -255,6 +285,7 @@ pickle.dump(config_dict, fp) fp.close() + @exported_function def set_instrument_volume(self, instr_id, instr_volume): """ Sets the volume of instrument with id 'instr_id' @@ -270,6 +301,7 @@ return 0 return 1 + @exported_function def get_instrument_volume(self, instr_id): """ returns the lever of instrument with id 'instr_id' @@ -283,6 +315,7 @@ return instr.volume return 1 + @exported_function def toggle_mute_instrument(self, instr_id): """ mutes the instrument with id 'instr_id' @@ -300,6 +333,7 @@ #My Nan and Pop from Newfoundland aren't quite this bad, but they're close: #http://youtube.com/watch?v=It_0XzPVHaU + @exported_function def get_instrument_effects(self, instr_id): """ Gets the current effects applied to instrument @@ -316,6 +350,7 @@ return 1 + @exported_function def list_available_effects(self): """ returns the available LADSPA effects @@ -323,6 +358,7 @@ #return a copy so they can't append or remove items from our list return Globals.LADSPA_NAME_MAP[:] + @exported_function def add_instrument_effect(self, instr_id, effect_name): """ Adds the effect 'effect_name' to instrument @@ -345,6 +381,7 @@ return 2 return 1 + @exported_function def remove_instrument_effect(self, instr_id, effect_num): """ This function removes the effect of index 'effect_num' @@ -374,6 +411,7 @@ #TODO: function for editing existing effects + @exported_function def create_new_instrument_type(self, defaultName, typeString, imagePath): """ Creates and new instrument type in the user's @@ -441,6 +479,7 @@ return 0 + @exported_function def add_export_format(self, description, extension, encodeBin): """ Adds a new format that the use can select from @@ -491,7 +530,7 @@ try: Globals.AVAILABLE_EXTENSIONS.append((1, module.EXTENSION_NAME, module.EXTENSION_DESCRIPTION, module.EXTENSION_VERSION)) except: - pass + continue except Exception, e: Globals.debug("failed.") Globals.debug(e) @@ -527,7 +566,7 @@ try: Globals.AVAILABLE_EXTENSIONS.append((1, extension.EXTENSION_NAME, extension.EXTENSION_DESCRIPTION, extension.EXTENSION_VERSION)) except: - pass + continue try: extension.startup(API) except: ------=_20061016023456_61462-- From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Mon Oct 16 02:41:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107193B0135 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:41:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09873-09 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A363B006E for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:41:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2089450nfa for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.120.15 with SMTP id s15mr880095buc; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610152341k3b71f541o69cdab9e3c22194d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:41:51 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "joe@fatnsoft.com" In-Reply-To: <37832.127.0.0.1.1160964585.squirrel@tennies.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <37832.127.0.0.1.1160964585.squirrel@tennies.us> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3d25d6b38b7b0427 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.392 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.392 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Mailing List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [Fwd: Patches for GNOME Audio Profiles] X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:41:56 -0000 On 10/16/06, joe@fatnsoft.com wrote: > GNOMEAudioProfiles.py is an extension to add the GNOME Audio Profiles to > the export types Cool. I like the sound of that; this is exactly what the Extensions API is supposed to be for, stuff like this :) sil -- Java sucks. [...] Java on TV set top boxes will suck so hard it might well inhale people from off their sofa until their heads get wedged in the card slots. --- Jon Rabone, ucam.chat From joe@fatnsoft.com Mon Oct 16 02:59:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5993B00A6 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:59:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10831-09 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:59:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apollo.arandomserver.com (32.d2.5546.static.theplanet.com [70.85.210.50]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6053E3B0087 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:59:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fatnsoft by apollo.arandomserver.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1GZMRx-0006lu-4y for jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:59:49 -0400 Received: from 127.0.0.1 ([127.0.0.1]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user joe@fatnsoft.com) by tennies.us with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:59:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <46859.127.0.0.1.1160981989.squirrel@tennies.us> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:59:49 -0400 (EDT) From: joe@fatnsoft.com To: "Jokosher Mailing List" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - apollo.arandomserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32725 500] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - fatnsoft.com X-Source: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php /usr/local/cpanel/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src/compose.php X-Source-Dir: :/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.497 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.006, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, NO_REAL_NAME=0.961] X-Spam-Score: -1.497 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Extension Change... again X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:59:44 -0000 This time I added a debug message if the name, version, or description was missing. From joe@fatnsoft.com Mon Oct 16 03:01:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB6A3B00F9 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:00:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10865-08 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:00:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apollo.arandomserver.com (32.d2.5546.static.theplanet.com [70.85.210.50]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2851A3B00EB for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:00:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fatnsoft by apollo.arandomserver.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1GZMTA-0007cY-VL for jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:01:04 -0400 Received: from 127.0.0.1 ([127.0.0.1]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user joe@fatnsoft.com) by tennies.us with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:01:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <46921.127.0.0.1.1160982064.squirrel@tennies.us> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:01:04 -0400 (EDT) From: joe@fatnsoft.com To: "Jokosher Mailing List" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;boundary="----=_20061016030104_56188" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - apollo.arandomserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32725 500] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - fatnsoft.com X-Source: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php /usr/local/cpanel/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src/compose.php X-Source-Dir: :/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.498 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.005, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, NO_REAL_NAME=0.961] X-Spam-Score: -1.498 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Now with patch X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:01:00 -0000 ------=_20061016030104_56188 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I need to sleep is what I think I'm being told. ------=_20061016030104_56188 Content-Type: text/x-patch; name="Extension.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Extension.diff" Index: Jokosher/Extension.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/Extension.py (revision 813) +++ Jokosher/Extension.py (working copy) @@ -3,6 +3,7 @@ import os, gtk, imp, pickle, Globals, pkg_resources import gettext +import traceback _ = gettext.gettext @@ -82,10 +83,29 @@ import ConfigParser import gst, gobject +def exported_function(f): + """ + Wraps any exported functions so that exceptions do not cross the exported API. + Any exceptions caught by this should be a return error code from exported function. + """ + def wrapped(*args, **kwargs): + try: + result = f(*args, **kwargs) + return result + except: + Globals.debug("EXPORTED API BUG:\nUnhandled exception thrown in exported function: " + + f.func_name + "\n" + traceback.format_exc()) + return -1 + wrapped.__doc__ = f.__doc__ + "\n-1: Unhandled exception (bug) in Jokosher" + wrapped.__name__ = f.func_name + return wrapped + class ExtensionAPI: + def __init__(self, mainapp): self.mainapp = mainapp - + + @exported_function def add_menu_item(self, menu_item_name, callback_function): """ Adds a menu item to a Jokosher extension menu. @@ -95,6 +115,7 @@ new_menu_item.connect("activate", callback_function) extensions_menu.prepend(new_menu_item) + @exported_function def play(self, play_state=True): """ If play_state is True, it will play the project from the beginning. @@ -105,14 +126,16 @@ if play_state: #Commence playing self.mainapp.Play() - + + @exported_function def stop(self): """ Stops the project if it is currently playing. Same as play(play_state=False) """ self.mainapp.Stop() - + + @exported_function def add_file_to_selected_instrument(self, uri, position=0): """ Creates a new event from the file at the given URI and @@ -136,6 +159,7 @@ #TODO: find out if the add failed and return 1 return 0 + @exported_function def add_file_to_instrument(self, instr_id, uri, position=0): """ Creates a new event from the file at the given URI and @@ -153,6 +177,7 @@ return 2 + @exported_function def list_available_instrument_types(self): """ Returns a list of tuples in the format: @@ -163,6 +188,7 @@ """ return [(x[0], x[1], x[2].copy()) for x in Globals.getCachedInstruments()] + @exported_function def add_instrument(self, instr_type, instr_name=None): """ Adds an instrument with the type 'instr_type' and @@ -185,6 +211,7 @@ return instr_index return -1 + @exported_function def list_project_instruments(self): """ Returns a list of tuples in the format: @@ -193,6 +220,7 @@ """ return [(instr.id, instr.name, instr.instrType, instr.pixbuf.copy()) for instr in self.mainapp.project.instruments] + @exported_function def delete_instrument(self, instrumentID): """ Removes the instrument with the ID @@ -221,6 +249,7 @@ config_dict_fn = os.path.join(CONFIGPATH,mycaller + ".config") return os.path.normpath(config_dict_fn) + @exported_function def get_config_value(self, key): """ Returns the config value saved under this key, @@ -237,6 +266,7 @@ except: return None + @exported_function def set_config_value(self, key, value): """ Sets a new config value under key for later retrieval. @@ -255,6 +285,7 @@ pickle.dump(config_dict, fp) fp.close() + @exported_function def set_instrument_volume(self, instr_id, instr_volume): """ Sets the volume of instrument with id 'instr_id' @@ -270,6 +301,7 @@ return 0 return 1 + @exported_function def get_instrument_volume(self, instr_id): """ returns the lever of instrument with id 'instr_id' @@ -283,6 +315,7 @@ return instr.volume return 1 + @exported_function def toggle_mute_instrument(self, instr_id): """ mutes the instrument with id 'instr_id' @@ -300,6 +333,7 @@ #My Nan and Pop from Newfoundland aren't quite this bad, but they're close: #http://youtube.com/watch?v=It_0XzPVHaU + @exported_function def get_instrument_effects(self, instr_id): """ Gets the current effects applied to instrument @@ -316,6 +350,7 @@ return 1 + @exported_function def list_available_effects(self): """ returns the available LADSPA effects @@ -323,6 +358,7 @@ #return a copy so they can't append or remove items from our list return Globals.LADSPA_NAME_MAP[:] + @exported_function def add_instrument_effect(self, instr_id, effect_name): """ Adds the effect 'effect_name' to instrument @@ -345,6 +381,7 @@ return 2 return 1 + @exported_function def remove_instrument_effect(self, instr_id, effect_num): """ This function removes the effect of index 'effect_num' @@ -374,6 +411,7 @@ #TODO: function for editing existing effects + @exported_function def create_new_instrument_type(self, defaultName, typeString, imagePath): """ Creates and new instrument type in the user's @@ -441,6 +479,7 @@ return 0 + @exported_function def add_export_format(self, description, extension, encodeBin): """ Adds a new format that the use can select from @@ -491,7 +530,8 @@ try: Globals.AVAILABLE_EXTENSIONS.append((1, module.EXTENSION_NAME, module.EXTENSION_DESCRIPTION, module.EXTENSION_VERSION)) except: - pass + Globals.debug("Extension %s: Missing name, description, and/or version" % (exten_dir + f)) + continue except Exception, e: Globals.debug("failed.") Globals.debug(e) @@ -527,7 +567,8 @@ try: Globals.AVAILABLE_EXTENSIONS.append((1, extension.EXTENSION_NAME, extension.EXTENSION_DESCRIPTION, extension.EXTENSION_VERSION)) except: - pass + Globals.debug("Extension %s: Missing name, description, and/or version" % entryPoint) + continue try: extension.startup(API) except: ------=_20061016030104_56188-- From john@thegreens.co.uk Mon Oct 16 04:51:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90DF3B00BC for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:51:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16373-06 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:51:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.200]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 151BC3B006E for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:51:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 47156 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2006 08:51:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Oct 2006 08:51:21 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C58D57801F; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:51:20 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:51:20 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061016085120.GA15484@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <46921.127.0.0.1.1160982064.squirrel@tennies.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46921.127.0.0.1.1160982064.squirrel@tennies.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.246 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.284, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.246 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Now with patch X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 08:51:24 -0000 On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 03:01:04AM -0400, joe@fatnsoft.com wrote: > I need to sleep is what I think I'm being told. Hmm. Going to have to read up on decorators. I've used them in Ruby on Rails but I didn't understand them then either. I think I just accepted them as some kind of magic. As far as the extension name and version stuff is concerned then the extension manager is in *very* early days and I have a lot of changes that aren't committed yet. There's a lot of other stuff that need to be checked when an extension is loaded (e.g. mutliple copies of an extension in different directories, multiple versions of the same extension and lots of other problems I haven't thought of yet). Rather than doing it in two different places in LoadAllExtensions() I am writing an ExtensionManager class that will handle all this sort of thing for extensions as both modules and class instances. All LoadAllExtensions() will do is call extensionManager.register(module[or extension]) and everything will happen there. So whilst this change is might be OK for now it probably won't live very long. -- John Green From laszlok2@gmail.com Mon Oct 16 09:37:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E2F3B007D for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:37:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00795-02 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:37:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.207]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B2C3B0005 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:36:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so448049nzf for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.219.1 with SMTP id w1mr10051379qbq; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id f18sm9148241qba.2006.10.16.06.36.57; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45338AF5.1050102@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:36:53 -0400 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: joe@fatnsoft.com References: <46921.127.0.0.1.1160982064.squirrel@tennies.us> In-Reply-To: <46921.127.0.0.1.1160982064.squirrel@tennies.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Mailing List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Now with patch X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:37:04 -0000 joe@fatnsoft.com wrote: > I need to sleep is what I think I'm being told. > Thanks, its been committed. One more and you'll have SVN access. :) Laszlo From joe@fatnsoft.com Mon Oct 16 09:40:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EBF13B00DF for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:40:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00774-09 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:39:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apollo.arandomserver.com (32.d2.5546.static.theplanet.com [70.85.210.50]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437603B0077 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:39:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fatnsoft by apollo.arandomserver.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1GZShA-0001be-Da for jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:39:56 -0400 Received: from 127.0.0.1 ([127.0.0.1]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user joe@fatnsoft.com) by tennies.us with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:39:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <57428.127.0.0.1.1161005996.squirrel@tennies.us> In-Reply-To: <20061016085120.GA15484@localhost.localdomain> References: <46921.127.0.0.1.1160982064.squirrel@tennies.us> <20061016085120.GA15484@localhost.localdomain> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:39:56 -0400 (EDT) From: joe@fatnsoft.com To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - apollo.arandomserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32725 500] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - fatnsoft.com X-Source: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php /usr/local/cpanel/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src/compose.php X-Source-Dir: :/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.498 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.005, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, NO_REAL_NAME=0.961] X-Spam-Score: -1.498 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Now with patch X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:40:00 -0000 The next thing that I thought would be great would be to be able to disable extensions on the fly. What I mean is that disabling the extension will undo whatever the extension did (remove menu items, remove export types, etc). It would also be nice to be able to reload the extension from inside the extension (like when GNOME Audio Properties are edited... just unload all added export types and then reload them). Obviously somethings might need to be careful about unloading (an instrument type used in the project). > On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 03:01:04AM -0400, joe@fatnsoft.com wrote: >> I need to sleep is what I think I'm being told. > > Hmm. Going to have to read up on decorators. I've used them in Ruby on > Rails > but I didn't understand them then either. I think I just accepted them as > some kind of magic. > > As far as the extension name and version stuff is concerned then the > extension manager is in *very* early days and I have a lot of changes that > aren't committed yet. There's a lot of other stuff that need to be checked > when an extension is loaded (e.g. mutliple copies of an extension in > different directories, multiple versions of the same extension and lots of > other problems I haven't thought of yet). Rather than doing it in two > different places in LoadAllExtensions() I am writing an ExtensionManager > class that will handle all this sort of thing for extensions as both > modules > and class instances. All LoadAllExtensions() will do is call > extensionManager.register(module[or extension]) and everything will happen > there. So whilst this change is might be OK for now it probably won't live > very long. > -- > John Green > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > From kelly_worth2003@yahoo.co.uk Mon Oct 16 13:12:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47DC93B0108 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:12:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13330-07 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:12:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.34]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E8C73B002C for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:12:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27451 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2006 17:12:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.100.55?) (kelly?worth2003@81.158.171.188 with login) by smtp003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Oct 2006 17:12:12 -0000 From: John Kelly To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:11:24 +0100 Message-Id: <1161018684.6074.11.camel@edgy> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.459 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS=0.291] X-Spam-Score: 1.459 X-Spam-Level: * Subject: [jokosher-devel] Interested in helping out X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:12:15 -0000 Hello everyone, My name is John Kelly and i am interested in helping out with Jokosher. I know some python and gtk. i know very little gstreamer at the moment but i will learn more as i work on jokosher. You'll find me on irc by the name jkelly2005. Regards, John Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From john@thegreens.co.uk Mon Oct 16 15:51:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136D73B01F4 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:51:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21166-02 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:51:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A4BBF3B0122 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:51:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 96796 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2006 19:51:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Oct 2006 19:51:02 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1D2B278C2B; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:51:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:51:01 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061016195101.GA30335@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <46921.127.0.0.1.1160982064.squirrel@tennies.us> <20061016085120.GA15484@localhost.localdomain> <57428.127.0.0.1.1161005996.squirrel@tennies.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <57428.127.0.0.1.1161005996.squirrel@tennies.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.261 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.269, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.261 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Now with patch X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:51:35 -0000 On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 09:39:56AM -0400, joe@fatnsoft.com wrote: > The next thing that I thought would be great would be to be able to > disable extensions on the fly. What I mean is that disabling the > extension will undo whatever the extension did (remove menu items, remove > export types, etc). I've thought this already. Whenever I install/remove an extension in Firefox and get told I have to close and re-open the app then I think 'this sucks'. The extension will probably have to provide a shutdown() or disable() function which reverses startup(). I don't know whether this should be mandatory or not, or whether J will just disable on the fly if a function is provided and tell you to shutdown/restart otherwise > It would also be nice to be able to reload the > extension from inside the extension (like when GNOME Audio Properties are > edited... just unload all added export types and then reload them). > Obviously somethings might need to be careful about unloading (an > instrument type used in the project). > sounds like your extension will need to grow a gui or at least add a menu item. Reload might be possible from within the extension manager as well as long as you can run disable() and startup() again -- John Green From jonobacon@gmail.com Tue Oct 17 18:53:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B823B00FF for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05888-08 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 657EF3B0071 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:53:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so63746ugb for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.178.5 with SMTP id a5mr10109709huf; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610171553v140acd89jb888b88f07a199e0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:53:45 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "Jokosher Devel List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.033 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-1.047, BAYES_40=-0.185, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.033 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] URGENT: Volunteers for Jokosher stand in London? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:53:47 -0000 Hi all, We have a stand for Jokosher at LinuxWorld in London on the 25th and 26th October, but we need some volunteers. I need to know if anyone can volunteer ASAP or I will need to give the stand back so someone else can have it. Please let me know ASAP if you can help! :) Jono From jonobacon@gmail.com Tue Oct 17 19:31:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22CB73B009C for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:31:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08130-04 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4C73B000B for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:31:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so525765nfa for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:31:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.127.6 with SMTP id z6mr10136110huc; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610171631u697c0300wa8dbdf4d1a5a9ed1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:31:40 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "Jokosher Devel List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.445 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.045, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.445 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Heading towards 1.0 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:31:44 -0000 Hi all, I have a chat a chat with some of you recently regarding when and how we are going to approach our 1.0 release. It is clear we want 1.0 to be a rock-solid release that is suitable for creating, recording and editing music, podcasts and whatever else. A 1.0 release not only needs a stable feature set and extensions API, but also needs our fixes in GStreamer to be stable so everything runs well. As such, I think we will want to factor the GStreamer guys into this process where possible. >From some discussions, I think we are all largely in agreement that 1.0 should include enough features to record music. 0.2 has most of these core features already in, and the following are also required for a 1.0 release: * multi-input recording (recording a number of instruments at the same time) - this will require some re-factoring of the recording engine. * a complete and stable extension API (this should mature with the 0.2 release when people start hacking on extensions). * support for multi-input LADSPA effects - currently single input effects are supported. * would be nice to have the Extension Browser in so users can browse extensions.jokosher.org and install them over the net. * would also be nice to have Live Help included - a noddy IRC client that talks to #jokosher-users on irc.freenode.net. This means users can get help from inside Jokosher - all part of the integrated experience. I talked about this with some of you on IRC and the suggestion is that we want to aim to get a final release included in Edgy+1, and this deadline date should be around February. Now, we want to have a decent release candidate process for 1.0 to get rid of bugs, so the suggested approach is that we have 1.0RC for around the beginning of Feb, and this release will certainly go into edgy+1. We can then have a month or so of bugfixing before releasing 1.0 final. This way, Edgy+1 gets a release and we also get some good feedback and bugfixes. So, lets get 0.2 finished, which will allow people to do real work with Jokosher, and then lets look at getting the polish in for 1.0. :) Jono From laszlok2@gmail.com Tue Oct 17 21:41:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837B43B00CB for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:41:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13490-07 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:41:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC29D3B0083 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:41:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id x66so151134pye for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.224.11 with SMTP id b11mr13363662qbr; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id q18sm449745qbq.2006.10.17.18.41.11; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:41:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45358636.5070600@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:41:10 -0400 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jono@jonobacon.org References: <1c3fe48e0610171631u697c0300wa8dbdf4d1a5a9ed1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1c3fe48e0610171631u697c0300wa8dbdf4d1a5a9ed1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Devel List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Heading towards 1.0 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:41:48 -0000 Jono Bacon wrote: > > I talked about this with some of you on IRC and the suggestion is that > we want to aim to get a final release included in Edgy+1, and this > deadline date should be around February. Now, we want to have a decent > release candidate process for 1.0 to get rid of bugs, so the suggested > approach is that we have 1.0RC for around the beginning of Feb, and > this release will certainly go into edgy+1. We can then have a month > or so of bugfixing before releasing 1.0 final. I would prefer not to call it 1.0RC, unless that's what it really is. It all depends on how much time there is between when the so called "RC" comes out and when the actual "1.0" comes out. See my next point below. This way, Edgy+1 gets a > release and we also get some good feedback and bugfixes. Universe freeze (the freeze we care about) for Ubuntu is about one month before the actual release of Edgy+1. So if we are planning to get feedback from all the Jokosher users apt-getting it from Edgy+1, and 1.0 is released about a month after the RC, we will be getting a lot of bug reports and feedback *after* we have already released Jokosher 1.0. I would rather call the release after 0.2, Jokosher 0.9 or Jokosher 1.0Beta, and then have more than one month between that and the actual 1.0, to allow for edgy to be released, etc. We probably shouldn't have any real features added between those two releases, but to make up for the extra time we could ship will some new cool extensions or and some little features that would risk breaking anything. Laszlo From mjpowersjr@gmail.com Wed Oct 18 02:45:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3032B3B0012 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:45:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25992-05 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:45:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.235]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDBD3B002C for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:45:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id t4so170644wxc for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.116.1 with SMTP id o1mr15431391wxc; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xps.powers.home ( [24.35.14.141]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id h34sm143658wxd.2006.10.17.23.45.34; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:45:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Powers To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:45:35 -0400 Message-Id: <1161153935.26953.13.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.541 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.541 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] The Freesound Project && ccmixter X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:45:37 -0000 Hey Jokosher hackers, I stumbled across a pretty interesting site called 'The Freesound Project', maybe some of you are familiar with this? TFSP is a on-line library of CC sound clips. They also provide a C++ library (called mootcher) that allows interfacing with their web services. Also, linked from TFSP, another interesting site called ccmixter.org. "This is a community music site featuring remixes licensed under Creative Commons, where you can listen to, sample, mash-up, or interact with music in whatever way you want." Anyway, this email is not meant as a feature request by any sorts.I just thought these websites may be of interest to you and maybe jokosher & these services could compliment each other. Anyhow, can't wait to check out jokosher. :-) The FreeSound Project http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/index.php ccMixter http://www.ccmixter.org/ -mike From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Wed Oct 18 02:51:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1F53B00A2 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:51:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26359-02 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:51:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544FF3B002C for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:51:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so714929nfa for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.139.17 with SMTP id m17mr1823679bud; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610172351w669d7440n60e88bb9f50f5d48@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:51:35 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Michael Powers" In-Reply-To: <1161153935.26953.13.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1161153935.26953.13.camel@localhost> X-Google-Sender-Auth: f7cea14fe65001b9 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.16 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-1.174, BAYES_40=-0.185, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.16 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] The Freesound Project && ccmixter X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:51:37 -0000 On 10/18/06, Michael Powers wrote: > Hey Jokosher hackers, > > I stumbled across a pretty interesting site called 'The Freesound > Project', maybe some of you are familiar with this? TFSP is a on-line > library of CC sound clips. They also provide a C++ library (called > mootcher) that allows interfacing with their web services. We already have a Jokosher Extension in development which allows musicians to search Freesound from inside Jokosher itself :) > Also, linked from TFSP, another interesting site called ccmixter.org. > "This is a community music site featuring remixes licensed under > Creative Commons, where you can listen to, sample, mash-up, or interact > with music in whatever way you want." I intend, eventually, to enlarge the Freesound Extension to search other souces of freely licenced music to make it really easy for Jokosherites to get at these things :) Thanks very much for the pointers! sil -- If cryptography is outlawed, only outlaws wifo4(F9%!98f3((hg$;'da"d;f+ From rmcw@allmail.net Wed Oct 18 04:32:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175F13B00C8 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 04:32:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31827-02 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 04:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A73D3B013E for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 04:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F4EDDB4AED; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 04:31:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 04:32:00 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: 1YEEQgYdpC6KaioLtmInZ44YE/cyQY4CHfkvwRI1/DdF 1161160320 Received: from eligeto (unknown [87.112.54.90]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9848958; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 04:31:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:31:49 +0100 From: Robert McWilliam To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061018093149.57e39963@eligeto> In-Reply-To: <1c3fe48e0610171553v140acd89jb888b88f07a199e0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1c3fe48e0610171553v140acd89jb888b88f07a199e0@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.185 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185] X-Spam-Score: -0.185 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jono@jonobacon.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] URGENT: Volunteers for Jokosher stand in London? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:32:08 -0000 On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:53:45 +0100 "Jono Bacon" wrote: > > Please let me know ASAP if you can help! :) > I meant to reply to Chris' mail, but forgot (and the compensation seems to be going up so I should maybe hold off for a while longer...). I'm going to be at LinuxWorld and can help out for a day and a bit (I want to have a wander round at some point but I'm not worried when so can do that when I'm not needed). Robert ________________________________________________________ Robert McWilliam rmcw@allmail.net www.ormiret.com Happiness is nothing more than good health and a bad memory. From john@thegreens.co.uk Wed Oct 18 05:00:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D593B0014 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:00:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00942-06 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:00:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.202]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 247FA3B007E for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:00:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7227 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2006 09:00:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Oct 2006 09:00:12 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 44D9B77F9E; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:00:10 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:00:10 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061018090009.GA19598@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <1c3fe48e0610171631u697c0300wa8dbdf4d1a5a9ed1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1c3fe48e0610171631u697c0300wa8dbdf4d1a5a9ed1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.516 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.475, BAYES_05=-1.11, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -0.516 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Heading towards 1.0 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:00:49 -0000 On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 12:31:40AM +0100, Jono Bacon wrote: > > I talked about this with some of you on IRC and the suggestion is that > we want to aim to get a final release included in Edgy+1, and this > deadline date should be around February. Now, we want to have a decent > release candidate process for 1.0 to get rid of bugs, so the suggested > approach is that we have 1.0RC for around the beginning of Feb, and > this release will certainly go into edgy+1. We can then have a month > or so of bugfixing before releasing 1.0 final. This way, Edgy+1 gets a > release and we also get some good feedback and bugfixes. I'm a little unclear on this. Do you mean the release candidate goes into edgy+1 or 1.0 final does? Edgy+1 will be about April which will be a while after our 1.0. -- John Green From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Wed Oct 18 05:16:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882B13B00B1 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:16:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02007-06 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:16:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F8A3B0079 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:16:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so764450nfa for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.127.15 with SMTP id z15mr1838255buc; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610180216n5312553dp9bb8b909c9f7d198@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:16:21 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20061018090009.GA19598@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1c3fe48e0610171631u697c0300wa8dbdf4d1a5a9ed1@mail.gmail.com> <20061018090009.GA19598@localhost.localdomain> X-Google-Sender-Auth: c030cee1d278de9d X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.328 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.072, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.328 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Heading towards 1.0 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:16:24 -0000 > I'm a little unclear on this. Do you mean the release candidate goes into > edgy+1 or 1.0 final does? Edgy+1 will be about April which will be a while > after our 1.0. Ah, that was what Laszlo meant about the universe freeze, though. The point is to get a stable and solid version of Jokosher into edgy+1, and universe freeze for that will be March, so the key point is to get something good and solid done for February so that we have the chance to fix it up during Feb itself ready to be frozen into Edgy+1. My personal thought is something like this: November: release 0.2 Nov - Feb: make all the stuff we've got rock-solid and great; write the documentation; make sure it's all good; don't add anything massively revolutionary. early Feb: release Jokosher 1.0 beta (mid-Feb: do some 1.0 release candidates, if we need to) late Feb: release Jokosher 1.0, based on any feedback from people's use of 1.0 beta early March: edgy+1 universe freezes, with Jokosher 1.0 in it mid March -> whenever: we start working on Jokosher 1.1, the uberbling release where we do all the cool ideas that we weren't allowed to do in 1.0, like Telepathy integration :) sil From laszlok2@gmail.com Wed Oct 18 20:35:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2BF3B009D for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:35:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19139-06 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.195]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B57F3B00B1 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so172512nzf for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.239.13 with SMTP id q13mr15545688qbr; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 1sm1990773qbh.2006.10.18.17.35.50; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4536C865.4040300@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:35:49 -0400 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jokosher gnome Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Very important - only use glade >= 3.0.2 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:35:55 -0000 While I was updating the translations today I noticed that many string were missing from the POT file. It turns out that in Glade-3 only GtkLabel can have the translatable="yes" property in the XML. This means translations for menu items and toolbars are getting lost. It says on the glade home page[1] that this is fixed in Glade 3.0.2 (the one in edgy). I now have to go through the XML by hand and add translatable="yes" to all the places that require it, since that is easier that trying to find all the effected strings in Glade. So please, if you have to commit a change to the glade file, you *must* use 3.0.2 or else we will lose the translations. You can get the glade 3.0.2 sources from the link below, or just use the one in edgy. Laszlo [1] http://glade.gnome.org/index.html From john@thegreens.co.uk Thu Oct 19 05:02:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B273B012D for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:02:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10293-03 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:02:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.140]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4125E3B00C1 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:02:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 79250 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2006 09:02:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2006 09:02:30 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2066F77F2F; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:02:28 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:02:26 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061019090226.GA4382@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4536C865.4040300@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4536C865.4040300@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.307 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.636, BAYES_20=-0.74, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -0.307 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Very important - only use glade >= 3.0.2 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:02:33 -0000 On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:35:49PM -0400, Laszlo Pandy wrote: > > So please, if you have to commit a change to the glade file, you *must* > use 3.0.2 or else we will lose the translations. You can get the glade > 3.0.2 sources from the link below, or just use the one in edgy. > I still seem to be using glade 2.12.1 so I suppose there was a gnome upgrade I didn't bother with at some point. Do you know if glade-2 is OK? -- John Green From chris-procter@talk21.com Thu Oct 19 05:49:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18FF83B00A1 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:49:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12876-10 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:49:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1125E3B01A4 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:49:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31353 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Oct 2006 09:49:27 -0000 Message-ID: <20061019094927.31351.qmail@web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.245.38.105] by web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:49:26 BST Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:49:26 +0100 (BST) From: chris procter To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20061018093149.57e39963@eligeto> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.026 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.994, BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708] X-Spam-Score: -0.026 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] URGENT: Volunteers for Jokosher stand in London? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:49:30 -0000 Ok so far we have, 1) Me 2) Robert 3) John Green (john is this right or has Jono "volunteered" you?) So we need: a) I think at least one more person because none of us can do all day on both days and a fourth (fifth, sixth) person will help cover the gaps. b) a working laptop to demo with (mine sadly is refusing to play audio atm which is a slight problem) c) some sort of poster or sign to tell people who we are. d) to know if we have power to keep the laptop working :) Any volunteers? Remember Jono has promised to put in a good word for you with the gods of Rock and Roll if you help out :) chris --- Robert McWilliam wrote: > On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:53:45 +0100 > "Jono Bacon" wrote: > > > > Please let me know ASAP if you can help! :) > > > > I meant to reply to Chris' mail, but forgot (and the > compensation > seems to be going up so I should maybe hold off for > a while longer...). > I'm going to be at LinuxWorld and can help out for a > day and a bit (I > want to have a wander round at some point but I'm > not worried when so > can do that when I'm not needed). > > Robert > > ________________________________________________________ > Robert McWilliam rmcw@allmail.net > www.ormiret.com > > Happiness is nothing more than good health and a bad > memory. > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From jonobacon@gmail.com Thu Oct 19 06:09:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522F23B01B0 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:09:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13820-10 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:09:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561FB3B00A0 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:09:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1233075nfa for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.204.20 with SMTP id b20mr11484668hug; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610190309m366aad0an8e552fb3578700d5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:09:07 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "chris procter" In-Reply-To: <20061019094927.31351.qmail@web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061018093149.57e39963@eligeto> <20061019094927.31351.qmail@web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.515 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.974, BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.515 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] URGENT: Volunteers for Jokosher stand in London? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:09:11 -0000 On 10/19/06, chris procter wrote: > > Ok so far we have, > 1) Me > 2) Robert > 3) John Green (john is this right or has Jono > "volunteered" you?) John volunteered a while back and I checked with him on IRC. He said he should be able to do both days if I remember right. > a) I think at least one more person because none of us > can do all day on both days and a fourth (fifth, > sixth) person will help cover the gaps. We certainly do need more volunteers where possible. Dave Morley is also planning to help as far as I know too. Dave? > b) a working laptop to demo with (mine sadly is > refusing to play audio atm which is a slight problem) > > c) some sort of poster or sign to tell people who we > are. Ihave the art here - let me know who is doing the printing and I can send it on. > d) to know if we have power to keep the laptop working > :) There will be power. :) Jono From john@thegreens.co.uk Thu Oct 19 09:44:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC083B021D for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:44:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25272-02 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:44:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 80DDC3B008A for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:44:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18601 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2006 13:44:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2006 13:44:03 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 951E977E53; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:43:56 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:43:56 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061019134356.GA6081@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <20061018093149.57e39963@eligeto> <20061019094927.31351.qmail@web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061019094927.31351.qmail@web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.039 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.922, BAYES_40=-0.185, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069, TW_GT=0.077] X-Spam-Score: 0.039 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] URGENT: Volunteers for Jokosher stand in London? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:44:10 -0000 On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 10:49:26AM +0100, chris procter wrote: > > Ok so far we have, > 1) Me > 2) Robert > 3) John Green (john is this right or has Jono > "volunteered" you?) > Yeah- I'm game. > > b) a working laptop to demo with (mine sadly is > refusing to play audio atm which is a slight problem) > I only have my wife's laptop which is a bit on the old and decrepit side. And it run's KDE not Gnome so it's KDE's gtk-like theme as opposed to the real thing. No audio inputs or mic. I can be there all day both days. -- John Green From rmcw@allmail.net Thu Oct 19 10:06:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A533B0151 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:06:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26392-10 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:06:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6938E3B01C9 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:06:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12458DB6637 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:06:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:06:14 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: 7z8sFgN4iDoWBePi1Eixpv/X7UEIHaL5uf7p1MYrdkbR 1161266774 Received: from eligeto (unknown [87.112.54.90]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33FE15A72 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:06:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:06:02 +0100 From: Robert McWilliam To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061019150602.2e28ad59@eligeto> In-Reply-To: <20061019094927.31351.qmail@web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <20061018093149.57e39963@eligeto> <20061019094927.31351.qmail@web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.648 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.463, BAYES_05=-1.11] X-Spam-Score: -0.648 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] URGENT: Volunteers for Jokosher stand in London? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:06:27 -0000 On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:49:26 +0100 (BST) chris procter wrote: > b) a working laptop to demo with (mine sadly is > refusing to play audio atm which is a slight problem) > I can bring my laptop (and the sound works, but is fairly lousy builtin). If I could get a couple of projects to have on it to demo to people that would be great. On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:09:07 +0100 "Jono Bacon" wrote: > On 10/19/06, chris procter wrote: > > c) some sort of poster or sign to tell people who we > > are. > > Ihave the art here - let me know who is doing the printing and I can > send it on. I can do printing if needed but it would be a bit of a pain to take on the plane, so if anyone traveling less could do it that would be great. Robert ________________________________________________________ Robert McWilliam rmcw@allmail.net www.ormiret.com Lottery: A tax on people who are bad at math. From jonobacon@gmail.com Thu Oct 19 12:39:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D8E3B00B8 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:39:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02541-02 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:39:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E773B0155 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:39:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so529830ugb for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:39:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.128.15 with SMTP id a15mr243873hud; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610190939gf1e2038se0d851adc49c41ee@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:39:18 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "Jokosher Devel List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_43706_6467488.1161275958347" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.29 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.749, BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.29 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher SVG Logos X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:39:26 -0000 ------=_Part_43706_6467488.1161275958347 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi all, For those you creating posters for LinuxWorld - here 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localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F1D3B0077 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:10:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13930-02 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:10:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server309.com (server309.com [216.35.196.59]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5DFF3B01E5 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:10:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20655 invoked by uid 502); 19 Oct 2006 20:10:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.102?) (81.179.70.239) by ns1.server309.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2006 20:10:41 -0000 From: Anthony Batchelor To: Jokosher Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:10:29 +0100 Message-Id: <1161288634.7271.15.camel@Pepe.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.533 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, INFO_TLD=1.273] X-Spam-Score: 0.533 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Recording from M-Audio FastTrack on Edgy X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:10:45 -0000 Hi, I've been trying to record from my M-Audio FastTrack USB sound card with J-0.1 on Edgy. I can't get any sound recorded from it. I reported this bug at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/jokosher/+bug/64702 Then I read that I probably should have asked here first. My bad. Won't happen again. I have discovered this since reporting the bug... I have also tried unplugging the sound card and I don't lose any Instrument Connections, even after restarting. The card works for recording in Audacity. But if I try recording in Jokosher, then close Jokosher, the 'Mic capture' button is checked in the volume applet. I have to uncheck it again to record in Audacity again. The following is from the bug report # Open Jokosher # Open/create a project # Add an instrument (Guitar) -- Repeat next bit for every available connection # Select Instrument Connections # Select an input # Arm the track for recording # Start recording # Play a tune # Stop Recording # No sound recorded Internal Sound card - Some Via 8235 on board thing USB Sound card - M-Audio Fast Track Any ideas? Thanks, Tony -- Anthony Batchelor From laszlok2@gmail.com Thu Oct 19 17:28:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD0B3B0076 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:28:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18456-04 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E4E13B0079 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d42so843990pyd for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.193.8 with SMTP id q8mr729860qbf; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id f16sm1399081qba.2006.10.19.14.27.58; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4537EDDB.4020006@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:27:55 -0400 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4536C865.4040300@gmail.com> <20061019090226.GA4382@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20061019090226.GA4382@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Very important - only use glade >= 3.0.2 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:28:35 -0000 John Green wrote: > On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:35:49PM -0400, Laszlo Pandy wrote: >> So please, if you have to commit a change to the glade file, you *must* >> use 3.0.2 or else we will lose the translations. You can get the glade >> 3.0.2 sources from the link below, or just use the one in edgy. >> > > I still seem to be using glade 2.12.1 so I suppose there was a gnome upgrade > I didn't bother with at some point. Actually Dapper still uses glade-2. There is a dapper deb available somewhere on the web for glade-3, but that is for 3.0.1 which contains the translation bug. Do you know if glade-2 is OK? > No gnome-2 is not okay. It uses a different format than gnome-3 which is backwards compatible, however saving it as glade-2 will result in 6000 line diffs. This was discussed on IRC and it was decided that we should stick with glade-3. Either compile 3.0.1 from source, or upgrade to edgy (which will be released next week btw). Laszlo From kerneljack@gmail.com Fri Oct 20 01:00:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6726E3B0076 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:00:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04588-10 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:00:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2740A3B002B for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:00:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1551814nfa for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.20.5 with SMTP id x5mr7330344nfi; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.241.3 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 06:00:36 +0100 From: "Khusro Jaleel" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_215353_8317366.1161320436946" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.115 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_00_10=0.795, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.115 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] URGENT: Volunteers for Jokosher stand in London? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: kerneljack@kerneljack.com List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:00:39 -0000 ------=_Part_215353_8317366.1161320436946 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi guys, I'm very new to jokosher but have known jono for a long time (on irc mostly) and so have volunteered to help you guys out on Wed. That's the only day I could get off work. I can bring along a 1.6Ghz Centrino laptop (1 gig of ram) with latest Edgy and latest jokosher built from cvs. Let me know if anything else is needed. As for the stuff to do, I really haven't used jokosher before but I'm sure I can pick it up in no time. What do you guys think I should do there? Thanks, Khusro ------=_Part_215353_8317366.1161320436946 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi guys,

I'm very new to jokosher but have known jono for a long time (on irc mostly) and so have volunteered to help you guys out on Wed. That's the only day I could get off work.

I can bring along a 1.6Ghz Centrino laptop (1 gig of ram) with latest Edgy and latest jokosher built from cvs. Let me know if anything else is needed.

As for the stuff to do, I really haven't used jokosher before but I'm sure I can pick it up in no time. What do you guys think I should do there?

Thanks,
Khusro

------=_Part_215353_8317366.1161320436946-- From davmor2@gmail.com Fri Oct 20 03:36:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E7453B00C5 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:36:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10401-04 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:36:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D5F3B007A for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:36:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so708772ugb for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.8 with SMTP id d8mr1418557ugm; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:36:28 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.014 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: 0.014 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] What's required..... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:36:30 -0000 I can bring an old Laptop in that is running Xubuntu edgy but it isn't up to much. I've asked Jono what he needs printing off so I can help out with that. I will be there wednesday only and will basically do whatever is requested. I've only used .1 but can pick up the basics of .2 quickly enough to demo it. I have a headphone/mic I can bring not what you might class as recording quality but does work. Anything else? -- Seek That Thy Might Know From jonobacon@gmail.com Fri Oct 20 04:03:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB3233B006F for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 04:03:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11767-08 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 04:03:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1553B0076 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 04:03:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so711726ugb for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.204.20 with SMTP id b20mr1518707hug; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610200103o2d5bcfa4o88d62c7dc589b25e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:03:39 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "David Morley" In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.205 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.195, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.205 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] What's required..... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:03:43 -0000 On 10/20/06, David Morley wrote: > I can bring an old Laptop in that is running Xubuntu edgy but it isn't > up to much. > I've asked Jono what he needs printing off so I can help out with that. > I will be there wednesday only and will basically do whatever is requested. > I've only used .1 but can pick up the basics of .2 quickly enough to demo it. > I have a headphone/mic I can bring not what you might class as > recording quality but does work. Dave - when mailing about stand issues, don't just mail me, mail the team. :) I would recommend you guys have the following stuff printed: * a bunch of posters with the Jokosher logo on to put up on the booth. * some small flyers to give to people that list the Jokosher details. * maybe a Jokosher fact sheet with some info and screenshots on. Jono From davmor2@gmail.com Fri Oct 20 05:11:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03D203B014A for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16024-03 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:11:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055533B00CC for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:11:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so720198ugb for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.89.5 with SMTP id r5mr1543884ugl; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610200211ib3c1767mbab0d7f95b15a15f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:11:24 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610200108m6e0cdde6red15da46ead91652@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610200103o2d5bcfa4o88d62c7dc589b25e@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200108m6e0cdde6red15da46ead91652@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Fwd: What's required..... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:11:26 -0000 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Morley Date: 20-Oct-2006 09:08 Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] What's required..... To: jono@jonobacon.org > Dave - when mailing about stand issues, don't just mail me, mail the team. :) > Realised that after with is why I did this post. :) > I would recommend you guys have the following stuff printed: > > * a bunch of posters with the Jokosher logo on to put up on the booth. Posters really need to be bigger than A4 might need pro help for that. > * some small flyers to give to people that list the Jokosher details. Have you got detail you can post me please? If it A4 size then I can do it > * maybe a Jokosher fact sheet with some info and screenshots on. Again if you have a layout and it's on A4 I can print some of thesse off. -- Seek That Thy Might Know -- Seek That Thy Might Know From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Fri Oct 20 13:26:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01953B007A for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:26:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11396-10 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:26:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37073B000C for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:26:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1757524nfa for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:26:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.230.18 with SMTP id c18mr8407864nfh; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:26:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:26:00 +0300 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: "David Morley" In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610200211ib3c1767mbab0d7f95b15a15f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610200103o2d5bcfa4o88d62c7dc589b25e@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200108m6e0cdde6red15da46ead91652@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200211ib3c1767mbab0d7f95b15a15f@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.422 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.422 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Fwd: What's required..... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:26:05 -0000 Hacked up a template for a Jokosher flyer (A4): http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher-flyer.png (source: http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher-flyer.svg) On 10/20/06, David Morley wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: David Morley > Date: 20-Oct-2006 09:08 > Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] What's required..... > To: jono@jonobacon.org > > > > Dave - when mailing about stand issues, don't just mail me, mail the team. :) > > > > Realised that after with is why I did this post. :) > > > I would recommend you guys have the following stuff printed: > > > > * a bunch of posters with the Jokosher logo on to put up on the booth. > > Posters really need to be bigger than A4 might need pro help for that. > > > * some small flyers to give to people that list the Jokosher details. > > Have you got detail you can post me please? If it A4 size then I can do it > > > * maybe a Jokosher fact sheet with some info and screenshots on. > > Again if you have a layout and it's on A4 I can print some of thesse off. > > > > > -- > Seek That Thy Might Know > > > -- > Seek That Thy Might Know > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > -- Panos Laganakos From jonobacon@gmail.com Fri Oct 20 20:35:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F3E3B0004 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:35:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01144-02 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:35:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A3933B0077 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:35:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so1691665nfc for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.150.7 with SMTP id x7mr3015208hud; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610201735tb1c3e01m1cbaddd1518dfd27@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 01:35:02 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "Panos Laganakos" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610200103o2d5bcfa4o88d62c7dc589b25e@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200108m6e0cdde6red15da46ead91652@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200211ib3c1767mbab0d7f95b15a15f@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.439 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.039, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.439 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, David Morley Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Fwd: What's required..... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 00:35:07 -0000 On 10/20/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > Hacked up a template for a Jokosher flyer (A4): > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher-flyer.png > > (source: http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher-flyer.svg) Wow! :) Jono From rmcw@allmail.net Sat Oct 21 09:30:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3563F3B00AC for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:30:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00423-07 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:30:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB603B0009 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:30:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84291DB80D2 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:30:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:30:45 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: w+ODfRviOWZUcK/G/MI8qVdZ3UIffY4vw0AZyFRNJnof 1161437444 Received: from eligeto (87.113.88.30.bbplus.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net [87.113.88.30]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76ADE162DB for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:30:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:30:32 +0100 From: Robert McWilliam To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061021143032.627d709c@eligeto> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] LinuxWorld stand X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 13:30:54 -0000 I have made an attempt at pulling together the planning from the various emails and made a wiki page: http://jokosher.python-hosting.com/wiki/LinuxWorld Chris: I wasn't sure when you were available so I haven't put you in anywhere. John: I've put you in for all day both days because you said you would be at the Expo then, remove your name for any times you want to do something else. Anyone else I've missed or put in at the wrong time? Printing - I can do the posters of the logo. - The layout Panos did for handouts is very good, any volunteers to sort out the text, add some screen shots, or print them off once they're finished? How many copies of this will we need? - Anything else we should have? A large poster of the information sheet? What/who am I forgetting? Robert ________________________________________________________ Robert McWilliam rmcw@allmail.net www.ormiret.com Klingon function calls do not have 'parameters' -- they have 'arguments' -- and they ALWAYS WIN THEM. From davmor2@gmail.com Sat Oct 21 10:21:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E923B002A for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02928-10 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FFE3B0119 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:21:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so979021ugb for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 07:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.100.17 with SMTP id c17mr3797391ugm; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 07:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 07:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610210721q3fc04033t6c46f1733d7de32d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:21:33 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: jono@jonobacon.org In-Reply-To: <1c3fe48e0610201735tb1c3e01m1cbaddd1518dfd27@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610200103o2d5bcfa4o88d62c7dc589b25e@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200108m6e0cdde6red15da46ead91652@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200211ib3c1767mbab0d7f95b15a15f@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610201735tb1c3e01m1cbaddd1518dfd27@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, Panos Laganakos Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] What's required..... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:21:35 -0000 can some screen shots be dropped into the wider grey sections if someone with the knowledge to do this could i could print a load off but i was thinking it may be worth finding out how much someone would charge to do a bulk print run On 21/10/06, Jono Bacon wrote: > On 10/20/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > > Hacked up a template for a Jokosher flyer (A4): > > > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher-flyer.png > > > > (source: http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher-flyer.svg) > > Wow! :) > > Jono > -- Seek That Thy Might Know From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Sat Oct 21 11:41:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724F33B006D for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:41:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07588-06 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:41:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378B83B0010 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:41:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2070385nfa for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.105.13 with SMTP id d13mr899276buc; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610210841m7227a9ddi2bd00bff50aca64d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:41:37 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "David Morley" In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610210721q3fc04033t6c46f1733d7de32d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610200103o2d5bcfa4o88d62c7dc589b25e@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200108m6e0cdde6red15da46ead91652@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200211ib3c1767mbab0d7f95b15a15f@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610201735tb1c3e01m1cbaddd1518dfd27@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610210721q3fc04033t6c46f1733d7de32d@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: b290bae51f1f40dc X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.332 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.068, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.332 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, jono@jonobacon.org, Panos Laganakos Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] What's required..... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:41:39 -0000 On 10/21/06, David Morley wrote: > can some screen shots be dropped into the wider grey sections if > someone with the knowledge to do this could i could print a load off > but i was thinking it may be worth finding out how much someone would > charge to do a bulk print run Hang on, hang on. The png seems to have boilerplate text in it: all the paragraphs under the headings are the same. Is that intended, or is there supposed to be more descriptive text for each paragraph? If not, then it says "concepts andlanguage" with a space missing... sil -- Also, thank you for reducing my productivity by introducing me to bash.org -- Tim From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Sat Oct 21 11:47:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B7E43B00B3 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:47:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08066-01 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:47:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC553B006D for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:47:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2071669nfa for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.90.4 with SMTP id s4mr10415600nfl; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:47:22 +0300 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: "Stuart Langridge" In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610210841m7227a9ddi2bd00bff50aca64d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610200103o2d5bcfa4o88d62c7dc589b25e@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200108m6e0cdde6red15da46ead91652@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200211ib3c1767mbab0d7f95b15a15f@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610201735tb1c3e01m1cbaddd1518dfd27@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610210721q3fc04033t6c46f1733d7de32d@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610210841m7227a9ddi2bd00bff50aca64d@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.422 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.422 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, jono@jonobacon.org, David Morley Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] What's required..... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:47:25 -0000 The PNG is just a showoff. If someone can take some screenshots and write the text I can update the SVG, or someone can do that himself, that's why I included the SVG in the first place. On 10/21/06, Stuart Langridge wrote: > On 10/21/06, David Morley wrote: > > can some screen shots be dropped into the wider grey sections if > > someone with the knowledge to do this could i could print a load off > > but i was thinking it may be worth finding out how much someone would > > charge to do a bulk print run > > Hang on, hang on. The png seems to have boilerplate text in it: all > the paragraphs under the headings are the same. Is that intended, or > is there supposed to be more descriptive text for each paragraph? If > not, then it says "concepts andlanguage" with a space missing... > > sil > > -- > Also, thank you for reducing my productivity by introducing me to > bash.org > -- Tim > -- Panos Laganakos From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Sat Oct 21 12:29:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8369D3B0009 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:29:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09597-10 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:29:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71BC33B006D for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:29:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2081920nfa for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.152.16 with SMTP id z16mr891571bud; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610210929h7c1a9bbfka57855e80bdc2988@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:29:48 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Panos Laganakos" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610200103o2d5bcfa4o88d62c7dc589b25e@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200108m6e0cdde6red15da46ead91652@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200211ib3c1767mbab0d7f95b15a15f@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610201735tb1c3e01m1cbaddd1518dfd27@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610210721q3fc04033t6c46f1733d7de32d@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610210841m7227a9ddi2bd00bff50aca64d@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 90fee02465802fec X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.334 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.066, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.334 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, jono@jonobacon.org, David Morley Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] What's required..... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:29:50 -0000 On 10/21/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > The PNG is just a showoff. > > If someone can take some screenshots and write the text I can update > the SVG, or someone can do that himself, that's why I included the SVG > in the first place. That's what I thought (and a very pretty showoff it is too!); I just wanted to confirm that before someone went and printed fifty of them ;) sil -- Medio tutissimus ibis. (You will travel safest in a middle course) -- family motto From davmor2@gmail.com Sat Oct 21 17:22:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1980C3B00B3 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:22:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24481-02 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:22:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075543B00AC for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:22:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1032563ugb for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.97.7 with SMTP id z7mr4434003ugl; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610211422ge0c483dgd7c103df2f504c55@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:22:21 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: "Stuart Langridge" In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610210929h7c1a9bbfka57855e80bdc2988@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610200103o2d5bcfa4o88d62c7dc589b25e@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200108m6e0cdde6red15da46ead91652@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200211ib3c1767mbab0d7f95b15a15f@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610201735tb1c3e01m1cbaddd1518dfd27@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610210721q3fc04033t6c46f1733d7de32d@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610210841m7227a9ddi2bd00bff50aca64d@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610210929h7c1a9bbfka57855e80bdc2988@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.541 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.541 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, jono@jonobacon.org, Panos Laganakos Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] What's required..... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:22:24 -0000 I've tried a demo print and although it looks okay the colours just aren't as viberant as they are on screen. I would like to say though that it still looks good and I think would be amazing on glossy paper. Has anyome managed to add screen shots to it yet? -- Seek That Thy Might Know From davmor2@gmail.com Sun Oct 22 06:50:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4B83B01E4 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 06:50:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09968-05 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 06:50:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB473B0159 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 06:50:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1095979ugb for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 03:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.119.13 with SMTP id w13mr5229064ugm; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 03:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 03:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610220350k6066d36cvf12caad543ca7785@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:50:50 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: "Stuart Langridge" In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610211422ge0c483dgd7c103df2f504c55@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200108m6e0cdde6red15da46ead91652@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200211ib3c1767mbab0d7f95b15a15f@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610201735tb1c3e01m1cbaddd1518dfd27@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610210721q3fc04033t6c46f1733d7de32d@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610210841m7227a9ddi2bd00bff50aca64d@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610210929h7c1a9bbfka57855e80bdc2988@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610211422ge0c483dgd7c103df2f504c55@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.541 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.541 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, jono@jonobacon.org, Panos Laganakos Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] What's required..... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 10:50:52 -0000 I've had an idea if someone can add content to the cool Jokosher flyer I will take a copy up to the uni and see how much it would cost to run off 1000 flyers and 5 A1 posters. -- Seek That Thy Might Know From davmor2@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 03:49:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127CA3B008C for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 03:49:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00938-06 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 03:49:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0138D3B0011 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 03:49:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1250639ugb for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 00:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.7 with SMTP id c7mr6773408ugi; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 00:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 00:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:49:17 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: 0.2 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:49:20 -0000 This is a plea to people who have design and typing skills. A lovely flyer was created for the Jokosher stand and I would hate for it to go to waste. I have time on my hands and can do one of three things take a filled out flyer or jpeg of it, to shop's or the University and get it printed or at least a quote. I can also take the time to print it myself. However none of this will be possible if the flyer itself is not actually filled in. Now I am a lorry driver by trade and have no idea how to edit and change the flyer so I send out a plea to those with the relevant skills please hurry and fill in the flyer so something can be done with it many thanks. Please send a copy to me then I can crack on trying to sort out getting it printed for the show Wednesday. -- Seek That Thy Might Know From rmcw@allmail.net Mon Oct 23 04:08:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1833F3B0011 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:08:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01402-10 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:08:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E143B0075 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:08:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80460DB8786 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:07:55 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: oYZTflpL82I+DNUUlSX4XvCYOBgA0s4PHVgbwqVuF+w7 1161590875 Received: from eligeto (87.112.72.104.bbplus.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net [87.112.72.104]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5931A218 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:07:41 +0100 From: Robert McWilliam To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.655 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_20=-0.74, TW_SV=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -0.655 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:08:06 -0000 On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:49:17 +0100 "David Morley" wrote: > Please send a copy to me then I can crack on trying to sort out > getting it printed for the show Wednesday. > I'm working on it at the moment (actually I got sidetracked trying to get jokosher from svn working here but I will get back to the flyer now). Should have something shortly. Robert ________________________________________________________ Robert McWilliam rmcw@allmail.net www.ormiret.com Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud, after a while you realise the pig is enjoying it. From davmor2@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 04:52:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0883B0075 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:52:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04052-02 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:52:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB053B0096 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:52:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1259446ugb for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 01:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.117.2 with SMTP id u2mr6847395ugm; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 01:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 01:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610230152j71fee863j118b3a40abffa32b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:52:18 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: "Robert McWilliam" In-Reply-To: <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.323 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_SV=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.323 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:52:21 -0000 On 23/10/06, Robert McWilliam wrote: > > I'm working on it at the moment (actually I got sidetracked trying to > get jokosher from svn working here but I will get back to the flyer > now). Should have something shortly. > > Robert Tha't fantastic. -- Seek That Thy Might Know From rmcw@allmail.net Mon Oct 23 06:46:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417A33B008C for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:46:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10594-05 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:46:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9623B0018 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:46:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B559DB8C95 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:46:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:46:19 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: 7MtnI0lUTEn4EE2qiuhGWWPCO+iTBTqQIuYGzJvl5fHw 1161600378 Received: from eligeto (87.112.72.104.bbplus.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net [87.112.72.104]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D15DED26 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:46:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:45:58 +0100 From: Robert McWilliam To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> In-Reply-To: <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.587 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.935, BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_SV=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -1.587 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:46:24 -0000 On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:07:41 +0100 Robert McWilliam wrote: > I'm working on it at the moment (actually I got sidetracked trying to > get jokosher from svn working here but I will get back to the flyer > now). Should have something shortly. > http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv2.png http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv2.svg I'm not very happy with a couple of the blocks of text, improvements to them or anything else very welcome. Also could someone please check for typos before printing, thanks. Robert ________________________________________________________ Robert McWilliam rmcw@allmail.net www.ormiret.com 31 Octal == 25 Decimal, thus 31 Oct == 25 Dec, thus Halloween == Christmas From dennis.lichtenthaeler@episode-iv.de Mon Oct 23 07:01:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DAD3B000D for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:01:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11281-02 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:01:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from basicbox3.server-home.net (basicbox3.server-home.net [195.137.212.25]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D543B0109 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:01:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [139.64.106.20] (unknown [62.225.173.228]) by basicbox3.server-home.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D31296508F1 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:01:00 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dennis_Lichtenth=E4ler?= Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:00:44 +0200 To: Jokosher gnome X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:01:08 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Am 23.10.2006 um 12:45 schrieb Robert McWilliam: > > http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv2.png > http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv2.svg > > I'm not very happy with a couple of the blocks of text, > improvements to > them or anything else very welcome. Also could someone please check > for > typos before printing, thanks. Great work! I really like the screenshots! I would have changed things myself and uploaded them but my Inkscape keeps complaining about missing linked files and I didn't want to break anything - so here it goes (_bla_ means things I'd change): * Easy to use Interface Designed from the ground up to be easy to use, Jokosher _features_ concepts and language familiar to musicians, and is a breeze to use. * Simple Editing (Nothing to change here) * Multitrack Volume Mixing With integrated visuali_z_ation and _volume controls_ for each instrument and the _entire_ project, getting volume levels right is effortless. * Import/Export Audio ... to many audio formats _such as ogg, mp3 or flac_. * Documentation _Jokosher's documentation team already producces guides and HOWTOs. The Jokosher website features forums and a wiki to help users share their tricks and experiences._ What do you think? Dennis -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFPKDhIYGOmjAGFHMRAjIpAKC69RM3536dYRbhvKf5/J7WV73uHACgg0fR Mel+k4I6p7y0cCvAsQgAsXQ= =8+ff -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jonobacon@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 07:07:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A1B23B00A7 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:07:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11697-01 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:07:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B933B000D for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:07:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1282405ugb for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.127.6 with SMTP id z6mr7105343huc; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:07:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:07:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610230407v70e3b0f1s4503aad0f24569a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:07:25 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dennis_Lichtenth=E4ler?=" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.209 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.191, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.209 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher gnome Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:07:29 -0000 On 10/23/06, Dennis Lichtenth=E4ler w= rote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Am 23.10.2006 um 12:45 schrieb Robert McWilliam: > > > > http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv2.png > > http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv2.svg > > > > I'm not very happy with a couple of the blocks of text, > > improvements to > > them or anything else very welcome. Also could someone please check > > for > > typos before printing, thanks. > > Great work! I really like the screenshots! Looks great! :) Jono From rmcw@allmail.net Mon Oct 23 07:52:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295193B00CB for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:52:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14070-05 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:52:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3470E3B01E0 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:52:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CFBFDB88D7 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:52:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:52:06 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: BaHIJSQe0R14+kmonBptW/LwCAjp0/ft5QU0iUd9VBf9 1161604325 Received: from eligeto (87.112.72.104.bbplus.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net [87.112.72.104]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C72E91A3E2 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:52:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:51:54 +0100 From: Robert McWilliam To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> In-Reply-To: References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.86 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.740, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -1.86 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:52:12 -0000 On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:00:44 +0200 Dennis Lichtenth=C3=A4ler wrote: > I would have changed things myself and uploaded them but my Inkscape =20 > keeps complaining about missing linked files and I didn't want to =20 > break anything - so here it goes (_bla_ means things I'd change): I probably haven't actually embedded the images in the file then, just links to them. Anyone know how to put the image in? > * Easy to use Interface > Designed from the ground up to be easy to use, Jokosher _features_ =20 > concepts and language familiar to musicians, and is a breeze to use. >=20 > * Simple Editing > (Nothing to change here) >=20 > * Multitrack Volume Mixing > With integrated visuali_z_ation and _volume controls_ for each =20 > instrument and the _entire_ project, getting volume levels right is =20 > effortless. >=20 > * Import/Export Audio > ... to many audio formats _such as ogg, mp3 or flac_. >=20 > * Documentation > _Jokosher's documentation team already producces guides and HOWTOs. =20 > The Jokosher website features forums and a wiki to help users share =20 > their tricks and experiences._ >=20 > What do you think? >=20 > Dennis I've put all of that in (though I'm not sure about using the American spelling of visualization): http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv4.png http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv4.svg ________________________________________________________ Robert McWilliam rmcw@allmail.net www.ormiret.com Klingon function calls do not have 'parameters' -- they have 'arguments' -- and they ALWAYS WIN THEM. From dennis.lichtenthaeler@episode-iv.de Mon Oct 23 08:12:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F223B0002 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:12:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15308-05 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:12:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from basicbox3.server-home.net (basicbox3.server-home.net [195.137.212.25]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0DA73B008C for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:12:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [139.64.106.20] (unknown [62.225.173.228]) by basicbox3.server-home.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFFBD6507CA; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:12:29 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dennis_Lichtenth=E4ler?= Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:12:25 +0200 To: Robert McWilliam X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:12:38 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Am 23.10.2006 um 13:51 schrieb Robert McWilliam: > I probably haven't actually embedded the images in the file then, just > links to them. Anyone know how to put the image in? No, sorry... > I've put all of that in (though I'm not sure about using the American > spelling of visualization): Oh, right, being German, I sometimes seem to lack the sensitivity to differenciate between the two :o) > http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv4.png > http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv4.svg Just one more bpiece of nitpicking... Should the text-boxes be vertically aligned in any way with the screenshot-bubbles? Centered perhaps? Otherwise, really great stuff. Dennis -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFPLGsIYGOmjAGFHMRApI8AJ9MhVsWY1NHdY2rWXHGTbaTVvZJ9QCfSHnY TK+qGTdSKSb1giywAJd2JOY= =0hht -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From davmor2@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 09:04:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C95E3B023A for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:04:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18368-02 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:04:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B6D3B0018 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:04:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1311689ugb for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.93.7 with SMTP id v7mr6823777ugl; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610230604t25d96e8doe79ab65d5023a163@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:04:51 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dennis_Lichtenth=E4ler?=" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.541 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.541 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Robert McWilliam , jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:04:57 -0000 Robert that's much better is this the final design then? Are we Agreeed? -- Seek That Thy Might Know From rmcw@allmail.net Mon Oct 23 09:30:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981BA3B0002 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:30:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19641-03 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3023B0004 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:30:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB278DB8CB9 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:30:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:30:12 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: tZ5UrOY6oe7CavOZTg1yYdbAUoJRU03lqafisk4l9Oe6 1161610211 Received: from eligeto (87.112.72.104.bbplus.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net [87.112.72.104]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF5FA80F for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:30:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:29:54 +0100 From: Robert McWilliam To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061023142954.3f31e9a3@eligeto> In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610230604t25d96e8doe79ab65d5023a163@mail.gmail.com> References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> <36feaa6c0610230604t25d96e8doe79ab65d5023a163@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.007 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.592, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.007 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:30:23 -0000 On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:04:51 +0100 "David Morley" wrote: > Robert that's much better is this the final design then? Are we > Agreeed? > I think we just need to decide between visualization and visualisation. What format do you want for printing (I can't seem to get an svg with the images embedded)? Also did you say you were going to print a couple of posters? Robert ________________________________________________________ Robert McWilliam rmcw@allmail.net www.ormiret.com Tell me what you need and I'll tell you how to get along without it. From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 09:36:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9623B0004 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:36:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19935-04 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:36:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B7B3B00BB for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:36:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1322253ugb for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.123.16 with SMTP id v16mr1280595buc; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610230636y5aaba1bel330a513e1d1a74b1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:36:17 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Robert McWilliam" In-Reply-To: <20061023142954.3f31e9a3@eligeto> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> <36feaa6c0610230604t25d96e8doe79ab65d5023a163@mail.gmail.com> <20061023142954.3f31e9a3@eligeto> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0d20a69c23060592 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.241 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.159, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.241 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:36:25 -0000 On 10/23/06, Robert McWilliam wrote: > I think we just need to decide between visualization and visualisation. It's for the UK Linux Expo, so I'd suggest the English spelling. sil -- Penelope Pitstop: Ohhh, it's my arch enemy, the Hooded Claw! The Hooded Claw: Who did you expect? Dick Dastardly? -- The Perils of Penelope Pitstop, "Jungle Jeopardy" From davmor2@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 09:46:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8983B006D for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:46:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20447-03 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:46:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB913B000A for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:46:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1325371ugb for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.244.10 with SMTP id r10mr7328719ugh; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610230646s9315ac7q2436562a5dc102fa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:46:14 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: "Stuart Langridge" In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610230636y5aaba1bel330a513e1d1a74b1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> <36feaa6c0610230604t25d96e8doe79ab65d5023a163@mail.gmail.com> <20061023142954.3f31e9a3@eligeto> <4c91566f0610230636y5aaba1bel330a513e1d1a74b1@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Robert McWilliam , jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:46:18 -0000 On 23/10/06, Stuart Langridge wrote: > On 10/23/06, Robert McWilliam wrote: > > I think we just need to decide between visualization and visualisation. > > It's for the UK Linux Expo, so I'd suggest the English spelling. > I'm with Aq use the English spelling I can print from any format but I will translate the png to whatever format is needed. After getting some horrifically priced quotes what I've decided on is just getting one great copy and getting copied over and over. That or I have enough Ink to print a load and everyone else do the same. How many are we realisitically going to need? Although I can't get the A1 unless I go to a shop but that I can sort out somehow. -- Seek That Thy Might Know From rmcw@allmail.net Mon Oct 23 10:27:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D5C3B0018 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:27:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22473-08 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:27:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81ABB3B000D for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:27:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A370DB7CD8 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:27:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:27:22 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: 7b+FYIg6QEHnoARAWu8A3djAfg2PLWY51/3SaJXWsQ54 1161613642 Received: from eligeto (87.112.72.104.bbplus.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net [87.112.72.104]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 382F61A80D for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:27:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:27:04 +0100 From: Robert McWilliam To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061023152704.490cde55@eligeto> In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610230646s9315ac7q2436562a5dc102fa@mail.gmail.com> References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> <36feaa6c0610230604t25d96e8doe79ab65d5023a163@mail.gmail.com> <20061023142954.3f31e9a3@eligeto> <4c91566f0610230636y5aaba1bel330a513e1d1a74b1@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610230646s9315ac7q2436562a5dc102fa@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.106 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.493, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.106 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:27:32 -0000 On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:46:14 +0100 "David Morley" wrote: > > After getting some horrifically priced quotes what I've decided on is > just getting one great copy and getting copied over and over. > > That or I have enough Ink to print a load and everyone else do the > same. > > How many are we realisitically going to need? Although I can't get > the A1 unless I go to a shop but that I can sort out somehow. > > OK: http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv5.png and a higher res version: http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv6.png I'll print out some (not sure how much paper I actually have), and let me know if you can't get posters done 'cause I can get some done at Uni tomorrow. Is there anything other than printing that we still need to sort out before Wednesday? Robert ________________________________________________________ Robert McWilliam rmcw@allmail.net www.ormiret.com "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." From john@thegreens.co.uk Mon Oct 23 11:18:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B64A63B000A for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:18:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25812-01 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:18:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.198]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CCB813B01AC for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:18:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 93201 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2006 15:18:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Oct 2006 15:18:16 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B57AD77E6A; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:18:28 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:18:25 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061023141825.GA20666@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> <36feaa6c0610230604t25d96e8doe79ab65d5023a163@mail.gmail.com> <20061023142954.3f31e9a3@eligeto> <4c91566f0610230636y5aaba1bel330a513e1d1a74b1@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610230646s9315ac7q2436562a5dc102fa@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610230646s9315ac7q2436562a5dc102fa@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.165 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.365, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.165 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:18:25 -0000 On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 02:46:14PM +0100, David Morley wrote: > > After getting some horrifically priced quotes what I've decided on is > just getting one great copy and getting copied over and over. > I remember doing a couple of thousand A3 leaflets a few years ago and not getting much change from Â150 quid so that doesn't surprise me. Does anyone know how to get a decent print from this? I tried importing the original png into OpenOffice printing that and the quality wasn't great. Maybe you can increase the DPI on the export from Inkscape. Inkscape's print is rather crude. Just a postscript conversion which loses all the transparency and so is totally unusable. On another note does anyone have any decent projects to show off? Mine tend to consist of whatever was on the radio when I pressed record. Great work though :) -- John Green From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 11:20:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F223B000D for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:20:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25985-01 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:20:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7F43B01B5 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:20:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2783937nfa for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.210.16 with SMTP id i16mr14623827nfg; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 18:20:39 +0300 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: "David Morley" In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610220350k6066d36cvf12caad543ca7785@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200211ib3c1767mbab0d7f95b15a15f@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610201735tb1c3e01m1cbaddd1518dfd27@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610210721q3fc04033t6c46f1733d7de32d@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610210841m7227a9ddi2bd00bff50aca64d@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610210929h7c1a9bbfka57855e80bdc2988@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610211422ge0c483dgd7c103df2f504c55@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610220350k6066d36cvf12caad543ca7785@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.421 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.021, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.421 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Stuart Langridge , jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, jono@jonobacon.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] What's required..... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:20:46 -0000 Unfortunately I don't have jokosher installed. So if anyone who has 0.2 working, take some screenshots for each topic of the flyer, and send them my way. I'll add em up and put it up for David to grab. On 10/22/06, David Morley wrote: > I've had an idea if someone can add content to the cool Jokosher flyer > I will take a copy up to the uni and see how much it would cost to run > off 1000 flyers and 5 A1 posters. > > > -- > Seek That Thy Might Know > -- Panos Laganakos From davmor2@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 11:31:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DA03B01B5 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:31:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26368-07 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:31:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C083B01E3 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:30:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1356766ugb for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.93.7 with SMTP id v7mr7075298ugl; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610230830u62fef566t8d642332084e028b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:30:58 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20061023141825.GA20666@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> <36feaa6c0610230604t25d96e8doe79ab65d5023a163@mail.gmail.com> <20061023142954.3f31e9a3@eligeto> <4c91566f0610230636y5aaba1bel330a513e1d1a74b1@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610230646s9315ac7q2436562a5dc102fa@mail.gmail.com> <20061023141825.GA20666@localhost.localdomain> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:31:02 -0000 On 23/10/06, John Green wrote: > On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 02:46:14PM +0100, David Morley wrote: > > > > After getting some horrifically priced quotes what I've decided on is > > just getting one great copy and getting copied over and over. > > > I remember doing a couple of thousand A3 leaflets a few years ago and not > getting much change from =C2150 quid so that doesn't surprise me. > > Does anyone know how to get a decent print from this? I tried importing t= he > original png into OpenOffice printing that and the quality wasn't great. > Maybe you can increase the DPI on the export from Inkscape. Inkscape's pr= int > is rather crude. Just a postscript conversion which loses all the > transparency and so is totally unusable. > > On another note does anyone have any decent projects to show off? Mine te= nd > to consist of whatever was on the radio when I pressed record. > > Great work though :) > > -- > John Green > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > --=20 Seek That Thy Might Know From davmor2@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 11:33:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157333B0014 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:33:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26580-06 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:33:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98993B0075 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:33:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1357285ugb for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.97.7 with SMTP id z7mr7479284ugl; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610230833r623fbce9n2fc0e84f29df9144@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:33:08 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20061023141825.GA20666@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_67630_13885882.1161617588070" References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> <36feaa6c0610230604t25d96e8doe79ab65d5023a163@mail.gmail.com> <20061023142954.3f31e9a3@eligeto> <4c91566f0610230636y5aaba1bel330a513e1d1a74b1@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610230646s9315ac7q2436562a5dc102fa@mail.gmail.com> <20061023141825.GA20666@localhost.localdomain> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:52:16 -0400 Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:33:16 -0000 ------=_Part_67630_13885882.1161617588070 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Many apologises I hit the wrong button. 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Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119A43B00D6 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:09:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28781-04 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:09:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 773EE3B0078 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:09:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF85DB8C66 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:09:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:09:14 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: 4YRQUlmDhqytGLF+bwPrXi6nu4sPkmbhbbvzWVqRonhr 1161619429 Received: from eligeto (87.112.72.104.bbplus.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net [87.112.72.104]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDC610CED for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:03:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:03:36 +0100 From: Robert McWilliam To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061023170336.5646848c@eligeto> In-Reply-To: <20061023141825.GA20666@localhost.localdomain> References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> <36feaa6c0610230604t25d96e8doe79ab65d5023a163@mail.gmail.com> <20061023142954.3f31e9a3@eligeto> <4c91566f0610230636y5aaba1bel330a513e1d1a74b1@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610230646s9315ac7q2436562a5dc102fa@mail.gmail.com> <20061023141825.GA20666@localhost.localdomain> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.176 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.423, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.176 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:09:20 -0000 On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:18:25 +0100 John Green wrote: > Does anyone know how to get a decent print from this? I tried > importing the original png into OpenOffice printing that and the > quality wasn't great. Maybe you can increase the DPI on the export > from Inkscape. Inkscape's print is rather crude. Just a postscript > conversion which loses all the transparency and so is totally > unusable. > I've uploaded a few higher resolution versions: http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv6.png (588K) http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv7.png (1.3M) http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv8.png (2.6M) http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv9.png (4.1M) http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv10.png (5.6M) I tried playing around with the various save as options that inkscape has but couldn't get anything reasonable out of it. If you want anything larger than that let me know. ________________________________________________________ Robert McWilliam rmcw@allmail.net www.ormiret.com It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can stop him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important. -- Martin Luther King Jr. From davmor2@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 15:25:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D3A3B0235 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:25:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07855-04 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:25:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B80E3B00E8 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:25:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id l31so1286990ugc for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.117.18 with SMTP id u18mr7894728ugm; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610231225n45397d4ek35eb07e635b99913@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:25:36 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: "Robert McWilliam" In-Reply-To: <20061023170336.5646848c@eligeto> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> <36feaa6c0610230604t25d96e8doe79ab65d5023a163@mail.gmail.com> <20061023142954.3f31e9a3@eligeto> <4c91566f0610230636y5aaba1bel330a513e1d1a74b1@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610230646s9315ac7q2436562a5dc102fa@mail.gmail.com> <20061023141825.GA20666@localhost.localdomain> <20061023170336.5646848c@eligeto> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.911 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.911 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:25:45 -0000 For anyone struggling with the png here is the best jpeg I got for printing on a4. www.davmor2.co.uk/jokosher-flyerv8.jpeg -- Seek That Thy Might Know From kerneljack@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 15:52:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23D73B0260 for ; 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charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hmm, I would like to try printing some of these, but I really don't know how expensive this is going to be? I will find out tomorrow at my local Prontaprint and try to print out maybe 50 A4s. If it is not too expensive I will try to do more. On 10/23/06, David Morley wrote: > > For anyone struggling with the png here is the best jpeg I got for > printing on a4. > > www.davmor2.co.uk/jokosher-flyerv8.jpeg > > > -- > Seek That Thy Might Know > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > ------=_Part_275047_19691019.1161633171074 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hmm, I would like to try printing some of these, but I really don't know how expensive this is going to be? I will find out tomorrow at my local Prontaprint and try to print out maybe 50 A4s. If it is not too expensive I will try to do more.


On 10/23/06, David Morley <davmor2@gmail.com> wrote:
For anyone struggling with the png here is the best jpeg I got for
printing on a4.

www.davmor2.co.uk/jokosher-flyerv8.jpeg


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------=_Part_275047_19691019.1161633171074-- From kerneljack@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 17:42:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FC03B000B for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15693-01 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:42:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89A13B002A for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:41:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2890456nfa for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:41:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.91.6 with SMTP id t6mr15333871nfl; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.241.3 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 22:41:57 +0100 From: "Khusro Jaleel" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_278049_2073889.1161639717489" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.604 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_00_10=0.795, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.604 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] what to prepare for demo? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: kerneljack@kerneljack.com List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:42:01 -0000 ------=_Part_278049_2073889.1161639717489 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi guys, I've now got my Ubuntu Edgy laptop setup with Jokosher 0.2 and I've added a vocal and tried arming and recording. I've recorded a little bit of my voice. So I think it's working, except it's giving me a LOT of errors. If I try to add a second track, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It keeps showing a dialog with the message: "Argh! Something went wrong and a serious error occurred: GStreamer encountered a general stream error. gstbasesrc.c(1610): gst_base_src_loop (): /timeline/playbackbin/Instrument_2/gnlcomposition2/gnlsource2/audiotestsrc2: streaming task paused, reason not-linked (-1) It is recommended that you report this to the Jokosher developers or get help at http://www.jokosher.org/forums/" Anyway I'm going to read the docs now to understand what this app can do. I don't know if this is going to work stably enough on my laptop for Wednesday. I hope one of you guys can help me fix it if need be. I wanted to know how much I should learn before Wed, is a basic understanding enough? Do I have to be prepared to do a full demo? The other thing I wanted to know is what time am I supposed to get there? Do we have to get there early because we are working at the booth? Thanks, Khusro ------=_Part_278049_2073889.1161639717489 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi guys,

I've now got my Ubuntu Edgy laptop setup with Jokosher 0.2 and I've added a vocal and tried arming and recording. I've recorded a little bit of my voice. So I think it's working, except it's giving me a LOT of errors. If I try to add a second track, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It keeps showing a dialog with the message:

"Argh! Something went wrong and a serious error occurred:

GStreamer encountered a general stream error.

gstbasesrc.c(1610): gst_base_src_loop (): /timeline/playbackbin/Instrument_2/gnlcomposition2/gnlsource2/audiotestsrc2:
streaming task paused, reason not-linked (-1)

It is recommended that you report this to the Jokosher developers or get help at http://www.jokosher.org/forums/"

Anyway I'm going to read the docs now to understand what this app can do. I don't know if this is going to work stably enough on my laptop for Wednesday. I hope one of you guys can help me fix it if need be.

I wanted to know how much I should learn before Wed, is a basic understanding enough? Do I have to be prepared to do a full demo?

The other thing I wanted to know is what time am I supposed to get there? Do we have to get there early because we are working at the booth?

Thanks,
Khusro

------=_Part_278049_2073889.1161639717489-- From jonobacon@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 19:26:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A6F3B00D9 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:26:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20605-08 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:26:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.227]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6B43B0075 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:26:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i20so413147wra for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.181.13 with SMTP id d13mr8228233huf; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610231626v1726a287y7d01400055b0935e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:26:41 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: kerneljack@kerneljack.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.439 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.039, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.439 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] what to prepare for demo? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:26:45 -0000 On 10/23/06, Khusro Jaleel wrote: > Hi guys, > > I've now got my Ubuntu Edgy laptop setup with Jokosher 0.2 and I've added a > vocal and tried arming and recording. I've recorded a little bit of my > voice. So I think it's working, except it's giving me a LOT of errors. If I > try to add a second track, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It > keeps showing a dialog with the message: > > "Argh! Something went wrong and a serious error occurred: > > GStreamer encountered a general stream error. > > gstbasesrc.c(1610): gst_base_src_loop (): > /timeline/playbackbin/Instrument_2/gnlcomposition2/gnlsource2/audiotestsrc2: > streaming task paused, reason not-linked (-1) Make sure you have a *very* recent GStreamer CVS - a patch was reverted today in the CVS, so make sure CVS is from the 24th Oct. > It is recommended that you report this to the Jokosher developers or get > help at http://www.jokosher.org/forums/" Report it to this list if possible. > Anyway I'm going to read the docs now to understand what this app can do. I > don't know if this is going to work stably enough on my laptop for > Wednesday. I hope one of you guys can help me fix it if need be. Sure, we can help where possible. :) > I wanted to know how much I should learn before Wed, is a basic > understanding enough? Do I have to be prepared to do a full demo? Just learn as much as you can. Its a breeze. :) > The other thing I wanted to know is what time am I supposed to get there? Do > we have to get there early because we are working at the booth? Get there as early as you can, preferably around 8am. If anyone has any problems, mention you are an exhibitor for the Jokosher stand and ask to speak to Brian Teeman or me. Jono From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 20:08:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B22A3B0307 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:08:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23179-01 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:08:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834A53B00D7 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:08:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2929960nfa for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.123.16 with SMTP id v16mr1555706buc; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610231708p1d65120eqc6cc3889bdb9b6d2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:08:28 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: kerneljack@kerneljack.com, "Jokosher Mailing List" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: c91831481dd8ea8d X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.338 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.062, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.338 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] what to prepare for demo? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:08:32 -0000 > "Argh! Something went wrong and a serious error occurred: > > GStreamer encountered a general stream error. I'm getting this too. How up to date is your GStreamer CVS? sil -- The carrot is hiding in your coat pocket. "Don't let me be eaten!" it begs in a pathetic, orange voice. http://tinyurl.com/nvm9k From kerneljack@gmail.com Tue Oct 24 04:09:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A47C3B00BB for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:09:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10781-03 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:09:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850BB3B0004 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:09:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so123927nfa for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.3 with SMTP id g3mr674695nfj; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.241.3 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:09:05 +0100 From: "Khusro Jaleel" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4846_32657481.1161677345566" References: <4c91566f0610231708p1d65120eqc6cc3889bdb9b6d2@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.527 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_00_10=0.795, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_SV=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -1.527 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] what to prepare for demo? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: kerneljack@kerneljack.com List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:09:09 -0000 ------=_Part_4846_32657481.1161677345566 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I checked out and built GStreamer CVS last night at around 22:00 or so. However, when autogen.sh says it is *not* building some modules, I didn't go and install more stuff to make sure it builds them all, is that important? Unfortunately I can't tell you what modules these were right now, as I'm at work. One thing that I'm not clear about from those GStreamer CVS instructions: I should *never* do a 'make install' of any kind, right? Just build GStreamer and plugins inside the sources/gstreamer/head directory, run ~/bin/gst-head and then run './Jokosher' from it's svn checkout directory, right? Khusro ------=_Part_4846_32657481.1161677345566 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I checked out and built GStreamer CVS last night at around 22:00 or so. However, when autogen.sh says it is *not* building some modules, I didn't go and install more stuff to make sure it builds them all, is that important? Unfortunately I can't tell you what modules these were right now, as I'm at work.

One thing that I'm not clear about from those GStreamer CVS instructions: I should *never* do a 'make install' of any kind, right? Just build GStreamer and plugins inside the sources/gstreamer/head directory, run ~/bin/gst-head and then run './Jokosher' from it's svn checkout directory, right?

Khusro ------=_Part_4846_32657481.1161677345566-- From jonobacon@gmail.com Tue Oct 24 04:17:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED243B00B1 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:17:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11094-08 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:17:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4581C3B0004 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:17:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so126154nfa for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.204.20 with SMTP id b20mr8767132hug; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.206.3 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610240117k1991636fw1e18fbc8934f7e8f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:17:27 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: kerneljack@kerneljack.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4c91566f0610231708p1d65120eqc6cc3889bdb9b6d2@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.077, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_SV=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] what to prepare for demo? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:17:29 -0000 On 10/24/06, Khusro Jaleel wrote: > I checked out and built GStreamer CVS last night at around 22:00 or so. > However, when autogen.sh says it is *not* building some modules, I didn't go > and install more stuff to make sure it builds them all, is that important? > Unfortunately I can't tell you what modules these were right now, as I'm at > work. When it tells you to install extra stuff, it tells you for a reason. :) Yes, go and install that extra stuff to ensure it works. :) > One thing that I'm not clear about from those GStreamer CVS instructions: I > should *never* do a 'make install' of any kind, right? Just build GStreamer > and plugins inside the sources/gstreamer/head directory, run ~/bin/gst-head > and then run './Jokosher' from it's svn checkout directory, right? Thats right. :) Jono From rmcw@allmail.net Tue Oct 24 04:19:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2383B00F7 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:19:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11191-07 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:19:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CA43B00B1 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:19:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08349DB8AEC; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:18:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:18:55 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: laiyEMYjTTdSV8xt4myZu6SziwEzLkdxOxJXBuzfY6Jz 1161677934 Received: from eligeto (unknown [87.112.53.115]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 445051B42D; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:18:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:18:43 +0100 From: Robert McWilliam To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061024091843.11237a8c@eligeto> In-Reply-To: References: <4c91566f0610231708p1d65120eqc6cc3889bdb9b6d2@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.191 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.331, BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_SV=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.191 X-Spam-Level: Cc: kerneljack@kerneljack.com Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] what to prepare for demo? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:19:05 -0000 On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:09:05 +0100 "Khusro Jaleel" wrote: > > One thing that I'm not clear about from those GStreamer CVS > instructions: I should *never* do a 'make install' of any kind, > right? Just build GStreamer and plugins inside the > sources/gstreamer/head directory, run ~/bin/gst-head and then run > './Jokosher' from it's svn checkout directory, right? > Right. Just remember to run jokosher from the same terminal as gst-head (it sets environment variables to point to the CVS gstreamer). Robert ________________________________________________________ Robert McWilliam rmcw@allmail.net www.ormiret.com 31.69 nHz = once a year. From jonobacon@gmail.com Tue Oct 24 04:22:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3CB3B02CF for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11505-01 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA883B02AA for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:22:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so127557nfa for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.139.1 with SMTP id m1mr8741551hud; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.206.3 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610240122s6eab8e0au5209725f9d0e2325@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:22:43 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "Jokosher gnome" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.438 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.038, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.438 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Important note for LinuxWorld people X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:22:45 -0000 Hi, If you are setting up a demo machine, make sure you check out up to Jokosher r846 - past that includes some work in progress code. :) Jono From john@thegreens.co.uk Tue Oct 24 06:34:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB32C3B0072 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 06:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18239-03 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 06:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.138]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 082A03B00BB for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 06:34:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 74532 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2006 10:34:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2006 10:34:22 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B6D8B77F31; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 11:34:21 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 11:34:21 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061024103421.GA23453@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4c91566f0610231708p1d65120eqc6cc3889bdb9b6d2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.181 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.349, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.181 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] what to prepare for demo? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:34:25 -0000 On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 09:09:05AM +0100, Khusro Jaleel wrote: > I checked out and built GStreamer CVS last night at around 22:00 or so. > However, when autogen.sh says it is *not* building some modules, I didn't go > and install more stuff to make sure it builds them all, is that important? > Unfortunately I can't tell you what modules these were right now, as I'm at > work. You don't actually need *everything*. Gstreamer handles lots video stuff as well which we don't use. I think the list of dev packages in the wiki covers most things that are revelant. Check the build for all the plugins and see that if ogg,mp3 and FLAC support is built. I'm having trouble playing with multiple sources in later CVS checkouts and I'm tring older versions. Does anyone know when this broke? Typically if I have a second track that starts a few seconds in the audio dies as soon as that starts. I know this used to work!! I set up the printer to print 50 copies before I went to bed last night. Of course the yellow ink ran out after 12 :( Why is it always the yellow that goes first? -- John Green From kerneljack@gmail.com Tue Oct 24 07:19:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDD03B00B1 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:19:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20459-03 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:19:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A763B00F7 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:19:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so174627nfa for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.19.5 with SMTP id w5mr934599nfi; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.241.3 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:19:32 +0100 From: "Khusro Jaleel" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20061024103421.GA23453@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7229_1000570.1161688772363" References: <4c91566f0610231708p1d65120eqc6cc3889bdb9b6d2@mail.gmail.com> <20061024103421.GA23453@localhost.localdomain> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.399 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] what to prepare for demo? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: kerneljack@kerneljack.com List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 11:19:36 -0000 ------=_Part_7229_1000570.1161688772363 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 10/24/06, John Green wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 09:09:05AM +0100, Khusro Jaleel wrote: > > I checked out and built GStreamer CVS last night at around 22:00 or so. > > However, when autogen.sh says it is *not* building some modules, I > didn't go > > and install more stuff to make sure it builds them all, is that > important? > > Unfortunately I can't tell you what modules these were right now, as I'm > at > > work. > > You don't actually need *everything*. Gstreamer handles lots video stuff > as > well which we don't use. I think the list of dev packages in the wiki > covers > most things that are revelant. Check the build for all the plugins and see > that if ogg,mp3 and FLAC support is built. OK, I'll check that tonight. I was also thinking the same thing, I shouldn't need to build absolutely everything, but I will try anyway as this maybe causing some issues. I'm having trouble playing with multiple sources in later CVS checkouts and > I'm tring older versions. Does anyone know when this broke? Typically if I > have a second track that starts a few seconds in the audio dies as soon as > that starts. I know this used to work!! Jono just told me to make sure that you checkout r846, *no later* as things may be broken there. He has posted this to the list as well. Khusro ------=_Part_7229_1000570.1161688772363 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 10/24/06, John Green <john@thegreens.co.uk> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 09:09:05AM +0100, Khusro Jaleel wrote:
> I checked out and built GStreamer CVS last night at around 22:00 or so.
> However, when autogen.sh says it is *not* building some modules, I didn't go
> and install more stuff to make sure it builds them all, is that important?
> Unfortunately I can't tell you what modules these were right now, as I'm at
> work.

You don't actually need *everything*. Gstreamer handles lots video stuff as
well which we don't use. I think the list of dev packages in the wiki covers
most things that are revelant. Check the build for all the plugins and see
that if ogg,mp3 and FLAC support is built.

OK, I'll check that tonight. I was also thinking the same thing, I shouldn't need to
build absolutely everything, but I will try anyway as this maybe causing some issues.

I'm having trouble playing with multiple sources in later CVS checkouts and
I'm tring older versions. Does anyone know when this broke? Typically if I
have a second track that starts a few seconds in the audio dies as soon as
that starts. I know this used to work!!

Jono just told me to make sure that you checkout r846, *no later* as things may be
broken there. He has posted this to the list as well.

Khusro
------=_Part_7229_1000570.1161688772363-- From john@thegreens.co.uk Tue Oct 24 08:54:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B545E3B00CA for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:54:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25738-09 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:54:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.139]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 411753B007E for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:54:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 57986 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2006 12:54:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2006 12:54:26 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AA1AA77F31; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:54:25 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:54:25 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061024125425.GB23453@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4c91566f0610231708p1d65120eqc6cc3889bdb9b6d2@mail.gmail.com> <20061024103421.GA23453@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.451 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.410, BAYES_05=-1.11, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -0.451 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] what to prepare for demo? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:54:31 -0000 On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 12:19:32PM +0100, Khusro Jaleel wrote: > > Jono just told me to make sure that you checkout r846, *no later* as things > may be > broken there. He has posted this to the list as well. > I was actually meaning gstreamer itself. My laptop chokes with 2 or more oggs. It actually runs fine with 2 wav files even with the latest so maybe it's a hardware thing. wav files will do for tomorrow though. Just need some *decent* content ;) -- John Green From niels.k.h@gmail.com Tue Oct 24 08:55:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D55E3B0061 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:55:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25957-08 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:55:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A348F3B007E for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:55:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so200554nfa for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 05:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.55.13 with SMTP id h13mr1092420nfk; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 05:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.101? ( [80.62.135.26]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id p45sm903578nfa.2006.10.24.05.55.40; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 05:55:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Niels =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kj=F8ller?= Hansen To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-OlV9ENlJaAlvaTwQKHYv" Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:55:45 +0200 Message-Id: <1161694545.30606.14.camel@niels-laptop.kvintus.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Fixed: Ticket #169 (No way to delete projects from welcome dialog) X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:55:53 -0000 --=-OlV9ENlJaAlvaTwQKHYv Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, This is my first patch for Jokosher, as well as any other project. I added a button below the 'Open Recent Project' and tied it up to a new function in JokosherApp.py called RemoveRecentProject I also added a self.model.clear() to PopulateRecentProjects in WelcomeDialog.py to empty it before appending the projects. It seems that my changes to Jokosher.glade has made the patch file very large. nibil on #jokosher thinks it's because the latest change was made with Glade 2. I used Glade 3.0.2. Any comments on anything remotely related to the patch are very welcome. /Niels PS: To the administrator: I accidentally posted the same message from my other e-mail address. 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( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id q19sm872092qbq.2006.10.24.08.24.51; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:24:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <453E3072.4020500@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 11:25:38 -0400 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4536C865.4040300@gmail.com> <20061019090226.GA4382@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20061019090226.GA4382@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Very important - only use glade < 3 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:24:57 -0000 On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:35:49PM -0400, Laszlo Pandy wrote: > So please, if you have to commit a change to the glade file, you *must* > use 3.0.2 or else we will lose the translations. You can get the glade > 3.0.2 sources from the link below, or just use the one in edgy. Um sorry about yanking everyone around with my policy changes, but because of some newly discovered bugs in glade-3, the glade file is going to be in glade-2 format. This means you should use glade-2 (any recent version will do) for editing the glade file at least until after 0.2 is released. Thanks Laszlo From laszlok2@gmail.com Tue Oct 24 12:06:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BDA3B0142 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:06:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05849-07 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:06:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.206]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030263B01DB for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:06:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so660430nzf for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.234.3 with SMTP id l3mr7669718qbr; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 1sm903938qbh.2006.10.24.09.06.36; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <453E3A39.9020204@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:07:21 -0400 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Niels_Kj=F8ller_Hansen?= References: <1161694545.30606.14.camel@niels-laptop.kvintus.dk> In-Reply-To: <1161694545.30606.14.camel@niels-laptop.kvintus.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Fixed: Ticket #169 (No way to delete projects from welcome dialog) X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:06:44 -0000 Niels Kjøller Hansen wrote: > Hello all, > > This is my first patch for Jokosher, as well as any other project. > > I added a button below the 'Open Recent Project' and tied it up to a new > function in JokosherApp.py called RemoveRecentProject I also added a > self.model.clear() to PopulateRecentProjects in WelcomeDialog.py to > empty it before appending the projects. > > It seems that my changes to Jokosher.glade has made the patch file very > large. nibil on #jokosher thinks it's because the latest change was made > with Glade 2. I used Glade 3.0.2. > > Any comments on anything remotely related to the patch are very welcome. > I have talked to you about this on IRC, but I just wanted to let everynoe in on the discussion. I would commit this patch (cause the code is very good) except that I don't like the big button on the welcome dialog. That dialog has enough buttons already and removing the recent project is a much less common task then opening a recent project, so it should have a smaller button, or it should be more hidden. There are several other ways to implement this. One of which is to just have a clear menu item at the bottom of the recent projects list in the file menu. Most other programs do this. That still doesn't make it possible to remove it while you are in the welcome dialog, and I haven't thought of the best way to do that yet. Laszlo From niels.k.h@gmail.com Tue Oct 24 16:18:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF4F3B0126 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23482-04 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:18:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395473B015E for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:18:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so322813nfa for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.93.13 with SMTP id v13mr1866354nfl; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.100? ( [80.160.154.238]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id l38sm1921941nfc.2006.10.24.13.18.51; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:18:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Niels =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kj=F8ller?= Hansen To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-BYRii5Za359rYZ7O7FNS" Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:18:49 +0200 Message-Id: <1161721130.5028.9.camel@niels-laptop.kvintus.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Fixed: Ticket #169 (No way to delete projects from welcome dialog) [second try] X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:18:58 -0000 --=-BYRii5Za359rYZ7O7FNS Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, Second try on this thing Removal is now done by right-clicking the project in the welcome screen. Hopefully I should be able to reuse some of the code for a 'clear list' option from the recent projects menu. Any comments on anything remotely related to the patch are still very welcome. /Niels PS: To the administrator: I accidentally posted the same message from my other e-mail address. Delete it please. --=-BYRii5Za359rYZ7O7FNS Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=remove_from_recent.diff Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=remove_from_recent.diff; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: Jokosher/Jokosher.glade =================================================================== --- Jokosher/Jokosher.glade (revision 847) +++ Jokosher/Jokosher.glade (working copy) @@ -2520,6 +2520,7 @@ False False False + @@ -4306,4 +4307,28 @@ + + + + + True + Remove from list + True + + + + + True + gtk-delete + 1 + 0.5 + 0.5 + 0 + 0 + + + + + + Index: Jokosher/WelcomeDialog.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/WelcomeDialog.py (revision 847) +++ Jokosher/WelcomeDialog.py (working copy) @@ -35,6 +35,7 @@ "on_openrecentprojectbutton_clicked" : self.OnOpenRecentProjectButton, "on_quit_clicked" : self.OnQuit, "on_startupcb_toggled" : self.OnStartupToggled, + "on_recentprojectslist_button_press_event": self.OnRecentProjectListButtonPress, } self.res.signal_autoconnect(self.signals) @@ -44,6 +45,11 @@ self.window.set_transient_for(self.mainwindow.window) self.tree = self.res.get_widget("recentprojectslist") + # get the right-click menu for the recent projects list + self.menu = gtk.glade.XML(Globals.GLADE_PATH,"RecentListMenu") + self.recentlistmenu = self.menu.get_widget("RecentListMenu") + self.menu.signal_autoconnect({"on_removefromrecent_activate": self.OnRemoveFromRecent}) + self.headerimage = self.res.get_widget("headerimage") self.headerimage.set_from_file(os.path.join(Globals.IMAGE_PATH, "welcomeheader.png")) @@ -120,6 +126,7 @@ def PopulateRecentProjects(self): '''Populate the Recent Projects menu with items from global settings''' + self.model.clear() for path, name in self.mainwindow.recentprojectitems: self.model.append([gtk.STOCK_NEW, name, path]) @@ -150,7 +157,28 @@ self.window.destroy() #_____________________________________________________________________ + + def OnRecentProjectListButtonPress(self, treeview, event): + if event.button == 3: #If the click is a right-click + x = int(event.x) + y = int(event.y) + time = event.time + pthinfo = treeview.get_path_at_pos(x, y) + if pthinfo is not None: + path, col, cellx, celly = pthinfo + treeview.grab_focus() + treeview.set_cursor(path, col, 0) + self.recentlistmenu.popup(None, None, None, event.button, time) + + #_____________________________________________________________________ + def OnRemoveFromRecent(self, widget): + """Remove the selected recent project from the list of recent projects.""" + item = self.model[self.tree.get_cursor()[0]] + self.mainwindow.RemoveRecentProject(item[2], item[1]) + self.PopulateRecentProjects() + #_____________________________________________________________________ + def OnStartupToggled(self, widget): """When the startup toggle box is toggled, this method is run to update the setting in Globals.""" Index: Jokosher/JokosherApp.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/JokosherApp.py (revision 847) +++ Jokosher/JokosherApp.py (working copy) @@ -693,6 +693,17 @@ #_____________________________________________________________________ + def RemoveRecentProject(self, path, name): + for item in self.recentprojectitems: + if path == item[0]: + self.recentprojectitems.remove(item) + break + + self.SaveRecentProjects() + self.PopulateRecentProjects() + + #_____________________________________________________________________ + def PopulateRecentProjects(self): '''Populate the Recent Projects menu with items from self.recentprojectitems''' --=-BYRii5Za359rYZ7O7FNS-- From kelly_worth2003@yahoo.co.uk Tue Oct 24 16:34:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C07C3B0004 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:34:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24973-09 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:34:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.62]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB2253B01A3 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:34:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 57301 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2006 20:34:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.100.55?) (kelly?worth2003@81.156.35.228 with login) by smtp008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2006 20:34:19 -0000 From: John Kelly To: "jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-HcfzzJXSm9tTm98FGASW" Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:33:41 +0100 Message-Id: <1161722021.19789.6.camel@edgy> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS=0.291] X-Spam-Score: -0.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Make recent projects menu inactive if there are no projects to be loaded X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:34:26 -0000 --=-HcfzzJXSm9tTm98FGASW Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Everyone, This is my first patch for jokosher. Its not much but its a start. The recent projects menu will now be inactive if there are no projects to load. John. --=-HcfzzJXSm9tTm98FGASW Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=recent_projects.diff Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=recent_projects.diff; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: JokosherApp.py =================================================================== --- JokosherApp.py (revision 847) +++ JokosherApp.py (working copy) @@ -845,7 +845,7 @@ ctrls = (self.save, self.save_as, self.close, self.addInstrumentButton, self.reverse, self.forward, self.play, self.stop, self.record, self.projectmenu, self.export, self.cut, self.copy, self.paste, - self.undo, self.redo, self.delete, + self.undo, self.redo, self.delete, self.recentprojects, RecordingToggle, CompactToggle, self.wTree.get_widget("WorkspacesLabel")) @@ -895,7 +895,7 @@ if self.tvtoolitem: self.tvtoolitem.destroy() self.tvtoolitem = None - + #_____________________________________________________________________ def OnKeyPress(self, widget, event): --=-HcfzzJXSm9tTm98FGASW-- Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From jens.geiregat@gmail.com Tue Oct 24 17:20:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F207C3B00CA for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:20:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27815-05 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:20:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.206]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F473B006D for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:20:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so707179nzf for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.95.1 with SMTP id x1mr9243149pyl; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:14:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.27.19 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:14:13 +0200 From: "Jens Geiregat" To: "Laszlo Pandy" In-Reply-To: <453E3A39.9020204@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1161694545.30606.14.camel@niels-laptop.kvintus.dk> <453E3A39.9020204@gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.394 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.006, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.394 X-Spam-Level: Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Niels_Kj=F8ller_Hansen?= , jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Fixed: Ticket #169 (No way to delete projects from welcome dialog) X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:20:09 -0000 On 10/24/06, Laszlo Pandy wrote: > Niels Kj=F8ller Hansen wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > This is my first patch for Jokosher, as well as any other project. > > > > I added a button below the 'Open Recent Project' and tied it up to a ne= w > > function in JokosherApp.py called RemoveRecentProject I also added a > > self.model.clear() to PopulateRecentProjects in WelcomeDialog.py to > > empty it before appending the projects. > > > > It seems that my changes to Jokosher.glade has made the patch file very > > large. nibil on #jokosher thinks it's because the latest change was mad= e > > with Glade 2. I used Glade 3.0.2. > > > > Any comments on anything remotely related to the patch are very welcome= . > > > > I have talked to you about this on IRC, but I just wanted to let > everynoe in on the discussion. I would commit this patch (cause the code > is very good) except that I don't like the big button on the welcome > dialog. That dialog has enough buttons already and removing the recent > project is a much less common task then opening a recent project, so it > should have a smaller button, or it should be more hidden. > > There are several other ways to implement this. One of which is to just > have a clear menu item at the bottom of the recent projects list in the > file menu. Most other programs do this. That still doesn't make it > possible to remove it while you are in the welcome dialog, and I haven't > thought of the best way to do that yet. > > Laszlo > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > How about aadding a right-click menu to each item in the Recent Projects list? Not exactly the most user friendly way to do it, but it doesn't do any bad, and some users will be gratefull. :-) Jens From laszlok2@gmail.com Tue Oct 24 18:41:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 017B33B0013 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:41:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00362-08 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.192]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7B03B000A for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so724842nzf for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.251.17 with SMTP id d17mr8347385qbs; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 1sm1513999qbh.2006.10.24.15.41.56; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <453E96E8.6080507@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:42:48 -0400 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Niels_Kj=F8ller_Hansen?= References: <1161721130.5028.9.camel@niels-laptop.kvintus.dk> In-Reply-To: <1161721130.5028.9.camel@niels-laptop.kvintus.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Fixed: Ticket #169 (No way to delete projects from welcome dialog) [second try] X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:41:59 -0000 Niels Kjøller Hansen wrote: > Hello all, > > Second try on this thing > > Removal is now done by right-clicking the project in the welcome screen. > Hopefully I should be able to reuse some of the code for a 'clear list' option from > the recent projects menu. I don't like the context menu thing. Its hidden and not very usable, but I have committed the rest of your patch along with my changes that make a extra column in the treeview with a delete icon. Clicking on that icon will remove it from the list. > > Any comments on anything remotely related to the patch are still very welcome. > Dude, in case you didn't notice, Jokosher uses tabs. Please do not mix your spaces with our tabs. > if pthinfo is not None: This is equivaluent to: if pthinfo: That's all. Thanks for the patch! :) Laszlo From mike@mikeasoft.com Wed Oct 25 04:58:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A87F3B006F for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 04:58:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26768-02 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 04:58:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bigben2.bytemark.co.uk (bigben2.bytemark.co.uk [80.68.81.132]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BAD63B000F for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 04:58:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mikeasoft.com ([80.68.92.185]) by bigben2.bytemark.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GceaO-0001Yt-6g for jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:58:08 +0000 Received: from mike by mikeasoft.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Gceh7-0004QP-00 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:05:05 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:05:05 +0100 From: Michael Sheldon To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061025090505.GA20291@mikeasoft.com> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <1161721130.5028.9.camel@niels-laptop.kvintus.dk> <453E96E8.6080507@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <453E96E8.6080507@gmail.com> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (Linux) Sender: Michael Sheldon X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.404 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.195, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.404 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Fixed: Ticket #169 (No way to delete projects from welcome dialog) [second try] X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:58:10 -0000 On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 06:42:48PM -0400, Laszlo Pandy wrote: > Dude, in case you didn't notice, Jokosher uses tabs. Please do not mix > your spaces with our tabs. On this note I'd suggest that developers should run python with the -tt option when working on Jokosher. This tells python to treat mixed tabs and spaces as errors (-t if you just want warnings). Nice work on the patch :) Cheers, Mike. -- Michael Sheldon http://www.mikeasoft.com From nickmurtagh@gmail.com Wed Oct 25 05:01:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F0C3B0014 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 05:01:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26768-09 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 05:01:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E463B002B for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 05:01:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so530499nfa for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 02:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.93.13 with SMTP id v13mr2869303nfl; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 02:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.88.7 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 02:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9768a1c60610250201u2a8e88acpd44460f90f23107e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:01:23 +0100 From: "Nick Murtagh" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <453E96E8.6080507@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1161721130.5028.9.camel@niels-laptop.kvintus.dk> <453E96E8.6080507@gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Fixed: Ticket #169 (No way to delete projects from welcome dialog) [second try] X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:01:26 -0000 On 10/24/06, Laszlo Pandy wrote: > > if pthinfo is not None: > > This is equivaluent to: > > if pthinfo: Sorry to be pedantic but: >>> a = '' >>> if a is not None: ... print 'hello' ... hello >>> if a: ... print 'hello' ... >>> From davmor2@gmail.com Thu Oct 26 11:42:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03EA3B006E for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:42:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03911-10 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:42:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A9B3B006F for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:42:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so382176ugb for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.100.17 with SMTP id c17mr3040645ugm; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610260842j1ec5140dm9009d5d99af6c0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:42:51 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.014 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: 0.014 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Interest in Jokosher X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:42:59 -0000 Everyone who came to the stall at Linux World Expo loved the look of Jokosher. So hats off to you lot, congrats. There were a load of suggestions that I'm sure someone will post as I don't have them. I think the two biggest surprises were when asked how we were going to make money (even though we were in the .org village) and how many people were there and interested in the project from schools and colleges. The day before I had been printing Jokosher flyers until my ink started to run low and at the beginning of the day we would of been happy to get rid of 10, I'd printed off somewhere in the region of 130 flyers someone else had brought along another 50 and there were 50 a5 flyers as back up, when I left the stall we had run out of my flyers and were about half way though the other 50. So if it is as busy today as it was yesterday then they will run out. If a fraction of those people contribute it will be amazing. -- Seek That Thy Might Know From john@thegreens.co.uk Thu Oct 26 14:55:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6BF23B002B for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:55:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15878-06 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:55:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.203]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 369CB3B00CC for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:55:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10329 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2006 18:55:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Oct 2006 18:55:25 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E162E77EFD; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:55:24 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:55:24 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061026185524.GA7895@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <36feaa6c0610260842j1ec5140dm9009d5d99af6c0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610260842j1ec5140dm9009d5d99af6c0@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.249 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.578, BAYES_20=-0.74, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -0.249 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Interest in Jokosher X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:55:32 -0000 On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 04:42:51PM +0100, David Morley wrote: > and were about half way though the other 50. So if it is as busy > today as it was yesterday then they will run out. If a fraction of > those people contribute it will be amazing. > We ran out about an hour before the close and resorted to hand-written URLs. We did about a dozen of those. Altogether today was not quite as busy but still the interest was really quite astonishing. People seem to really, really like the look and feel of the app. But what tends to put them off is the dependence on gstreamer CVS. That really is a quite daunting task for all but the most determined. But one day (April 2007?) 'apt-get install jokosher' *will* work and hopefully everyone who saw it over the last two days will remember. -- John Green From kerneljack@gmail.com Thu Oct 26 15:30:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9C13B0013 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:30:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18299-02 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:30:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846DA3B0142 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:30:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1094900nfa for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.254.10 with SMTP id b10mr6106396nfi; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.241.3 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:30:46 +0100 From: "Khusro Jaleel" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_19720_6454217.1161891046583" References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.811 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_10_20=1.351, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: 0.811 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: kerneljack@kerneljack.com List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:30:52 -0000 ------=_Part_19720_6454217.1161891046583 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi everyone, I want to thank all of you for welcoming me and helping me out yesterday with the Jokosher demos, I had a great time! I promise I will try my best to help out with the bug fixes when jokosher 0.2 goes into freeze in a few days. I do have an exam in a couple of weeks which I have to prepare for, but I will try. At the moment, I did notice *tons* of spelling mistakes in the Jokosher Help section on the website. I can fix those quite quickly. If I just download the page, fix the errors in HTML and upload a patch to the HTML, is that ok? Here are some of the features and other questions that people asked: - A lot of people wanted to record stuff off of the internet, such as BBC radio streams - Ability to filter out "noise", I believe this maybe possible using the Instrument Effects? - One guy asked if there are any latency issues when multiple instruments are plugged in? - VOIP recording - Export / Import from cubase? - Windows version? - Some guy asked if Jokosher was similar to EMi?? I think the website is: http://emi.thevtek.com - A few people asked if Patch Panels were supported - MIDI, a LOT of people asked if MIDI was supported - Someone asked if Jokosher was similar to something called Jashaker?? I can't find this app anywhere online, but it is supposed to be a video editing app. Finally, a guy from Zend said, and I quote: "How will you make money? Free?? Come on guys!!" Right, some bugs I observed prior to starting the demos, I'm sorry, I know we need "reproducible" bugs, but I have not managed to repro some of these. Since they did indeed occur, though, I feel obligated to at least report them. - A guy with a Creative Audigy soundcard said that when he has only *one* input source armed in Jokosher, it still tells him to "please select only one input source". I suggested that the soundcard might be the problem, it might have multiple inputs, so I suggested he try "muting" all but one of them to see if it works. - When a section of audio was selected, and I pressed play, the red bar that moves across started "filling" the whole track with "red" colour. - Beginning of timeline disappears sometimes. Switching to another format and back fixes it. - Sometimes if you have several blocks of audio in a single track and you press play the audio can be heard "before" the red line reaches the actual block on the track. I tried emailing the photos I took of the event using my camera phone, but I think the attachment is too big for the list so I am removing it. You can still check out the photos at my flickr.com page, http://www.flickr.com/photos/kerneljack. Enjoy! Khusro ------=_Part_19720_6454217.1161891046583 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi everyone,

I want to thank all of you for welcoming me and helping me out yesterday with the Jokosher demos, I had a great time! I promise I will try my best to help out with the bug fixes when jokosher 0.2 goes into freeze in a few days. I do have an exam in a couple of weeks which I have to prepare for, but I will try.

At the moment, I did notice *tons* of spelling mistakes in the Jokosher Help section on the website. I can fix those quite quickly. If I just download the page, fix the errors in HTML and upload a patch to the HTML, is that ok?

Here are some of the features and other questions that people asked:

- A lot of people wanted to record stuff off of the internet, such as BBC radio streams
- Ability to filter out "noise", I believe this maybe possible using the Instrument Effects?
- One guy asked if there are any latency issues when multiple instruments are plugged in?
- VOIP recording
- Export / Import from cubase?
- Windows version?
- Some guy asked if Jokosher was similar to EMi?? I think the website is: http://emi.thevtek.com
- A few people asked if Patch Panels were supported
- MIDI, a LOT of people asked if MIDI was supported
- Someone asked if Jokosher was similar to something called Jashaker?? I can't find this app anywhere online, but it is supposed to be a video editing app.

Finally, a guy from Zend said, and I quote: "How will you make money? Free?? Come on guys!!"

Right, some bugs I observed prior to starting the demos, I'm sorry, I know we need "reproducible" bugs, but I have not managed to repro some of these. Since they did indeed occur, though, I feel obligated to at least report them.

- A guy with a Creative Audigy soundcard said that when he has only *one* input source armed in Jokosher, it still tells him to "please select only one input source". I suggested that the soundcard might be the problem, it might have multiple inputs, so I suggested he try "muting" all but one of them to see if it works.

- When a section of audio was selected, and I pressed play, the red bar that moves across started "filling" the whole track with "red" colour.

- Beginning of timeline disappears sometimes. Switching to another format and back fixes it.

- Sometimes if you have several blocks of audio in a single track and you press play the audio can be heard "before" the red line reaches the actual block on the track.

I tried emailing the photos I took of the event using my camera phone, but I think the attachment is too big for the list so I am removing it. You can still check out the photos at my flickr.com page, http://www.flickr.com/photos/kerneljack.
Enjoy!

Khusro

------=_Part_19720_6454217.1161891046583-- From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Thu Oct 26 15:54:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325A33B00E9 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:54:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19535-08 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:54:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46C6C3B000C for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:54:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1101736nfa for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:54:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.127.15 with SMTP id z15mr943348buc; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:54:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610261254h22703329n2afc7278dff1e1a4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:54:28 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: kerneljack@kerneljack.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: b3260f21ce215fb7 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.34 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.060, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.34 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:54:35 -0000 > I want to thank all of you for welcoming me and helping me out yesterday In turn, I want to thank you for being part of the team running the stand! Sorry I couldn't make it down. > At the moment, I did notice *tons* of spelling mistakes in the Jokosher Help > section on the website. I can fix those quite quickly. If I just download > the page, fix the errors in HTML and upload a patch to the HTML, is that ok? Go for it; mail the patch to me or to the list. > - A lot of people wanted to record stuff off of the internet, such as BBC > radio streams Hm. Network Instruments are the way here, although there are Legal Issues with doing this :) > - Ability to filter out "noise", I believe this maybe possible using the > Instrument Effects? > - One guy asked if there are any latency issues when multiple instruments > are plugged in? I don't know about these two. > - VOIP recording Network Instruments. Yes indeed. This is going to happen. > - Export / Import from cubase? Unlikely, but if someone looks into it it might turn out to be easier. Dunno. In practice, though, you're not really supposed to ship whole Jokosher projects around in the same way that you're not supposed to ship entire Cubase projects around; instead, you encode to some sort of transport format (say, Ogg Vorbis), and we can already do that to exchange music with Cubase. > - Windows version? Porting Jokosher isn't the problem (and indeed would be trivial, since it's Python), it's porting the stuff we depend on, like GStreamer and Cairo. All these things are being worked on on Windows, so perhaps this will be doable soon (or already is doable, but we have no-one looking at it). > - Some guy asked if Jokosher was similar to EMi?? I think the website is: > http://emi.thevtek.com > - A few people asked if Patch Panels were supported > - MIDI, a LOT of people asked if MIDI was supported > - Someone asked if Jokosher was similar to something called Jashaker?? I > can't find this app anywhere online, but it is supposed to be a video > editing app. Don't know about any of these, except that "Jashaker" is a coincidence :) > Finally, a guy from Zend said, and I quote: "How will you make money? Free?? > Come on guys!!" yes! that's what we're going to do! sell it! screw open source! Bah. > Right, some bugs I observed prior to starting the demos, I'm sorry, I know > we need "reproducible" bugs, but I have not managed to repro some of these. > Since they did indeed occur, though, I feel obligated to at least report > them. It'd be useful if these went into the bugtracking system; since I still ahven't finished the Simple Bug Submitter, can someone drop them in? (I don't have time right now.) > I tried emailing the photos I took of the event using my camera phone, but I > think the attachment is too big for the list so I am removing it. You can > still check out the photos at my flickr.com page, > http://www.flickr.com/photos/kerneljack. Nice one! Thanks again :) sil -- >> Heard a lot about eggnog, but I have never experienced it >> first-hand. What is this thing made off? > Isn't it obvious? Eggs and nog, of course. Don't pay any attention to him, Sid. It's eggs, *sugar*, and nog. -- Jason, rec.humor.oracle.d From kerneljack@gmail.com Thu Oct 26 16:39:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262AA3B009D for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:39:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22665-03 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:39:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039B83B0094 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:39:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1113584nfa for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.20.5 with SMTP id x5mr6241400nfi; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.241.3 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:39:06 +0100 From: "Khusro Jaleel" To: "Stuart Langridge" In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610261254h22703329n2afc7278dff1e1a4@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_21154_13754820.1161895146365" References: <4c91566f0610261254h22703329n2afc7278dff1e1a4@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.399 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: kerneljack@kerneljack.com List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:39:14 -0000 ------=_Part_21154_13754820.1161895146365 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_21155_12760395.1161895146365" ------=_Part_21155_12760395.1161895146365 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks a lot, Stuart, wish I could have met you there too :-) Ok, here is one normal patch and a unified one, as I'm not sure which format you prefer ... I think I got most of the big mistakes. Khusro On 10/26/06, Stuart Langridge wrote: > > > I want to thank all of you for welcoming me and helping me out yesterday > > In turn, I want to thank you for being part of the team running the > stand! Sorry I couldn't make it down. > > > At the moment, I did notice *tons* of spelling mistakes in the Jokosher > Help > > section on the website. I can fix those quite quickly. If I just > download > > the page, fix the errors in HTML and upload a patch to the HTML, is that > ok? > > Go for it; mail the patch to me or to the list. > > > - A lot of people wanted to record stuff off of the internet, such as > BBC > > radio streams > > Hm. Network Instruments are the way here, although there are Legal > Issues with doing this :) > > > - Ability to filter out "noise", I believe this maybe possible using the > > Instrument Effects? > > - One guy asked if there are any latency issues when multiple > instruments > > are plugged in? > > I don't know about these two. > > > - VOIP recording > > Network Instruments. Yes indeed. This is going to happen. > > > - Export / Import from cubase? > > Unlikely, but if someone looks into it it might turn out to be easier. > Dunno. In practice, though, you're not really supposed to ship whole > Jokosher projects around in the same way that you're not supposed to > ship entire Cubase projects around; instead, you encode to some sort > of transport format (say, Ogg Vorbis), and we can already do that to > exchange music with Cubase. > > > - Windows version? > > Porting Jokosher isn't the problem (and indeed would be trivial, since > it's Python), it's porting the stuff we depend on, like GStreamer and > Cairo. All these things are being worked on on Windows, so perhaps > this will be doable soon (or already is doable, but we have no-one > looking at it). > > > - Some guy asked if Jokosher was similar to EMi?? I think the website > is: > > http://emi.thevtek.com > > - A few people asked if Patch Panels were supported > > - MIDI, a LOT of people asked if MIDI was supported > > - Someone asked if Jokosher was similar to something called Jashaker?? I > > can't find this app anywhere online, but it is supposed to be a video > > editing app. > > Don't know about any of these, except that "Jashaker" is a coincidence :) > > > Finally, a guy from Zend said, and I quote: "How will you make money? > Free?? > > Come on guys!!" > > yes! that's what we're going to do! sell it! screw open source! Bah. > > > Right, some bugs I observed prior to starting the demos, I'm sorry, I > know > > we need "reproducible" bugs, but I have not managed to repro some of > these. > > Since they did indeed occur, though, I feel obligated to at least report > > them. > > It'd be useful if these went into the bugtracking system; since I > still ahven't finished the Simple Bug Submitter, can someone drop them > in? (I don't have time right now.) > > > I tried emailing the photos I took of the event using my camera phone, > but I > > think the attachment is too big for the list so I am removing it. You > can > > still check out the photos at my flickr.com page, > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/kerneljack. > > Nice one! Thanks again :) > > sil > > -- > >> Heard a lot about eggnog, but I have never experienced it > >> first-hand. What is this thing made off? > > Isn't it obvious? Eggs and nog, of course. > Don't pay any attention to him, Sid. It's eggs, *sugar*, and nog. > -- Jason, rec.humor.oracle.d > ------=_Part_21155_12760395.1161895146365 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks a lot, Stuart, wish I could have met you there too :-)

Ok, here is one normal patch and a unified one, as I'm not sure which format you prefer ... I think I got most of the big mistakes.

Khusro

On 10/26/06, Stuart Langridge <sil@kryogenix.org> wrote:
> I want to thank all of you for welcoming me and helping me out yesterday

In turn, I want to thank you for being part of the team running the
stand! Sorry I couldn't make it down.

> At the moment, I did notice *tons* of spelling mistakes in the Jokosher Help
> section on the website. I can fix those quite quickly. If I just download
> the page, fix the errors in HTML and upload a patch to the HTML, is that ok?

Go for it; mail the patch to me or to the list.

> - A lot of people wanted to record stuff off of the internet, such as BBC
> radio streams

Hm. Network Instruments are the way here, although there are Legal
Issues with doing this :)

> - Ability to filter out "noise", I believe this maybe possible using the
> Instrument Effects?
> - One guy asked if there are any latency issues when multiple instruments
> are plugged in?

I don't know about these two.

> - VOIP recording

Network Instruments. Yes indeed. This is going to happen.

> - Export / Import from cubase?

Unlikely, but if someone looks into it it might turn out to be easier.
Dunno. In practice, though, you're not really supposed to ship whole
Jokosher projects around in the same way that you're not supposed to
ship entire Cubase projects around; instead, you encode to some sort
of transport format (say, Ogg Vorbis), and we can already do that to
exchange music with Cubase.

> - Windows version?

Porting Jokosher isn't the problem (and indeed would be trivial, since
it's Python), it's porting the stuff we depend on, like GStreamer and
Cairo. All these things are being worked on on Windows, so perhaps
this will be doable soon (or already is doable, but we have no-one
looking at it).

> - Some guy asked if Jokosher was similar to EMi?? I think the website is:
> http://emi.thevtek.com
> - A few people asked if Patch Panels were supported
> - MIDI, a LOT of people asked if MIDI was supported
> - Someone asked if Jokosher was similar to something called Jashaker?? I
> can't find this app anywhere online, but it is supposed to be a video
> editing app.

Don't know about any of these, except that "Jashaker" is a coincidence :)

> Finally, a guy from Zend said, and I quote: "How will you make money? Free??
> Come on guys!!"

yes! that's what we're going to do! sell it! screw open source! Bah.

> Right, some bugs I observed prior to starting the demos, I'm sorry, I know
> we need "reproducible" bugs, but I have not managed to repro some of these.
> Since they did indeed occur, though, I feel obligated to at least report
> them.

It'd be useful if these went into the bugtracking system; since I
still ahven't finished the Simple Bug Submitter, can someone drop them
in? (I don't have time right now.)

> I tried emailing the photos I took of the event using my camera phone, but I
> think the attachment is too big for the list so I am removing it. You can
> still check out the photos at my flickr.com page,
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/kerneljack.

Nice one! Thanks again :)

sil

--
>> Heard a lot about eggnog, but I have never experienced it
>> first-hand. What is this thing made off?
> Isn't it obvious? Eggs and nog, of course.
Don't pay any attention to him, Sid. It's eggs, *sugar*, and nog.
             -- Jason, rec.humor.oracle.d

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jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447C13B00EC for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:18:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24637-08 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:18:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C408E3B00FB for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:18:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1122972nfa for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.107.15 with SMTP id f15mr961388buc; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610261418i459878ees785c45be7f8573b2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:18:04 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: kerneljack@kerneljack.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4c91566f0610261254h22703329n2afc7278dff1e1a4@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: dd9e262c08943e02 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.341 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.059, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.341 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:18:07 -0000 > Ok, here is one normal patch and a unified one, as I'm not sure which format > you prefer ... I think I got most of the big mistakes. Changes made. I've also gone through and fixed a lot of the HTML (I suspect the original stuff was created by some tool like OpenOffice, which needs a boot in the arse to shape up), and updated the header slightly to indicate that it's been worked on by the project as a whole. Eventually this will be rolled into the DocTeam's work on doc.jokosher.org, but it can certainly stand for now! sil -- Penelope Pitstop: Ohhh, it's my arch enemy, the Hooded Claw! The Hooded Claw: Who did you expect? Dick Dastardly? -- The Perils of Penelope Pitstop, "Jungle Jeopardy" From laszlok2@gmail.com Thu Oct 26 19:00:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA133B0098 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:00:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30291-02 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:00:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.200]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2693B002B for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:00:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so427809nzf for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.107.10 with SMTP id j10mr3972627qbm; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id q18sm1708271qbq.2006.10.26.16.00.56; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45413E49.1040803@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:01:29 -0400 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kerneljack@kerneljack.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 23:00:58 -0000 Khusro Jaleel wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Here are some of the features and other questions that people asked: > > - A lot of people wanted to record stuff off of the internet, such as > BBC radio streams Yes, mostly illegal, but not actually hard to do. Once the interface for network instruments are in, a non-seekable stream could be treated as the same thing. > - Ability to filter out "noise", I believe this maybe possible using the > Instrument Effects? Yes, we should figure out some way to do this, if for nothing else but all those poor podcast listenters. Oh and normalization is something that should go with this too. > - Export / Import from cubase? If the audio was in a proper format (like ogg, mp3 or wav) I can't imagine this being too hard to do if people *really* demand it. > - Windows version? Yes its just about getting stuff libs compiled and functioning on windows, and abstracting our current reliance on ALSA. Stuart mentioned cairo on windows. Firefox 3 will use cairo on windows, so that might be worth looking at. > - A few people asked if Patch Panels were supported Am I the only one who doesn't know what a patch panel is? Unless they're talking about a mixing board. > - MIDI, a LOT of people asked if MIDI was supported That's probably because its so hard/rare for applications to do. > - Someone asked if Jokosher was similar to something called Jashaker?? I > can't find this app anywhere online, but it is supposed to be a video > editing app. I've heard this one before. Its some kind of openGL accelerated video editor. > - When a section of audio was selected, and I pressed play, the red bar > that moves across started "filling" the whole track with "red" colour. > I thought I fixed this a *long* time ago. What happens is that we only draw a 3 pixel wide column right where the playhead is to improve the performance (because while playing we draw like 30FPS). Can you give me any more information? Maybe its a slow computer that is dropping redraw frames which prevents the red sections from being redrawn? > - Beginning of timeline disappears sometimes. Switching to another > format and back fixes it. > Without being able to reproduce theres not much we can do. > - Sometimes if you have several blocks of audio in a single track and > you press play the audio can be heard "before" the red line reaches the > actual block on the track. Again, I think this is drawing issues. We fixed all the position rounding errors, etc already. Nice job on getting the word out BTW. :) Laszlo From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Thu Oct 26 19:24:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E9F3B002B for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31137-09 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:24:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06CEC3B007C for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:24:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so512933ugb for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.135.13 with SMTP id i13mr1021377bud; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 02:24:42 +0300 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20061026185524.GA7895@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610260842j1ec5140dm9009d5d99af6c0@mail.gmail.com> <20061026185524.GA7895@localhost.localdomain> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.393 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.393 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Interest in Jokosher X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 23:24:45 -0000 I saw the flikr photo stream from the stand. Looks awesome (and so did the flyer :)) Would be great if we had a video file from there though. On 10/26/06, John Green wrote: > On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 04:42:51PM +0100, David Morley wrote: > > and were about half way though the other 50. So if it is as busy > > today as it was yesterday then they will run out. If a fraction of > > those people contribute it will be amazing. > > > > We ran out about an hour before the close and resorted to hand-written URLs. > We did about a dozen of those. Altogether today was not quite as busy but > still the interest was really quite astonishing. People seem to really, > really like the look and feel of the app. But what tends to put them off is > the dependence on gstreamer CVS. That really is a quite daunting task for > all but the most determined. But one day (April 2007?) 'apt-get install > jokosher' *will* work and hopefully everyone who saw it over the last two > days will remember. > > -- > John Green > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > -- Panos Laganakos From davmor2@gmail.com Fri Oct 27 03:31:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB5C3B010D for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 03:31:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19165-02 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 03:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B6D3B0119 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 03:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so595883ugb for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 00:31:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.89.5 with SMTP id r5mr4473575ugl; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 00:31:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 00:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610270031h829fedrb6c097742adc8b62@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:31:40 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: "Laszlo Pandy" In-Reply-To: <45413E49.1040803@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45413E49.1040803@gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: kerneljack@kerneljack.com, jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:31:44 -0000 > > - Export / Import from cubase? > > If the audio was in a proper format (like ogg, mp3 or wav) I can't > imagine this being too hard to do if people *really* demand it. > I think this one was brought up because we were describing it as a project inspired by no longer wanting to use cubase on a windows machine to record a linux podcast. At this point one guy said right so you'll be able to import cubase stuff into then? At which point it kinda dawned on us that if people have been using cubase the likelyhood is if they move over to Linux they will want to edit the music they already have or are working on. So I think it could rapidly become a popular request. -- Seek That Thy Might Know From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Fri Oct 27 04:35:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1813B00A3 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:35:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22958-01 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:35:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473BE3B00A6 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:35:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1229959nfa for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 01:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.126.19 with SMTP id y19mr1275522buc; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 01:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 01:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610270135i62910c36ra96c9ea8acbdbf87@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:35:19 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "David Morley" In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610270031h829fedrb6c097742adc8b62@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45413E49.1040803@gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610270031h829fedrb6c097742adc8b62@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0191d87b19a68e4f X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.343 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.057, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.343 X-Spam-Level: Cc: kerneljack@kerneljack.com, jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, Laszlo Pandy Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:35:22 -0000 On 10/27/06, David Morley wrote: > At this point one guy said right so you'll be able to import cubase > stuff into then? At which point it kinda dawned on us that if people > have been using cubase the likelyhood is if they move over to Linux > they will want to edit the music they already have or are working on. > So I think it could rapidly become a popular request. Very true. Jono (or anyone else with Cubase): what's the format of a project? sil -- Also, thank you for reducing my productivity by introducing me to bash.org -- Tim From david@ar.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp Fri Oct 27 06:12:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3C23B0122 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:12:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28103-10 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:12:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.ar.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp (mail.ar.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp [130.54.15.101]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB233B00C7 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:12:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.17] (donau [192.168.1.17]) by mail.ar.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7W-ar-mail) id TAA16661; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:14:39 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <4541DB45.8080708@ar.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:11:17 +0900 From: David Cournapeau User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <45413E49.1040803@gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610270031h829fedrb6c097742adc8b62@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610270031h829fedrb6c097742adc8b62@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.647 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.463, BAYES_40=-0.185] X-Spam-Score: -0.647 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:12:10 -0000 David Morley wrote: >>> - Export / Import from cubase? >>> >> If the audio was in a proper format (like ogg, mp3 or wav) I can't >> imagine this being too hard to do if people *really* demand it. >> >> > I think this one was brought up because we were describing it as a > project inspired by no longer wanting to use cubase on a windows > machine to record a linux podcast. > > At this point one guy said right so you'll be able to import cubase > stuff into then? At which point it kinda dawned on us that if people > have been using cubase the likelyhood is if they move over to Linux > they will want to edit the music they already have or are working on. > So I think it could rapidly become a popular request. > > First, cubase is not really the tool I would choose to edit podcast, but anyway: a cubase project describes internal settings of a project under cubase, such as plugin and mixinx desk states, etc... with separate files for the audio data. Importing the project file itself would be useless for an audio editor, without even talking about all the work to reverse engineer a file format which is closed, I think. Last time I tried jokosher (last month), it could do the basic editing for eg podcast without a problem, but for people doing "serious" musical editing, jokosher is still not enough (which is normal seeing when the project was started). And anyway, from what I understood, jokosher's goal is not to go after those kind of big softwares (we already have rosegarden, ardour for that), right ? cheers, David From jason@jasonfield.com Fri Oct 27 06:32:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F703B0094 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:32:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28898-07 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:32:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sonaptic.com (unknown [82.110.122.149]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96ADA3B00B3 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:32:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.162] ([192.168.0.162]) by sonaptic.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:32:46 +0100 Message-ID: <4541E04E.9060209@jasonfield.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:32:46 +0100 From: Jason Field User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stuart Langridge References: <45413E49.1040803@gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610270031h829fedrb6c097742adc8b62@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610270135i62910c36ra96c9ea8acbdbf87@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610270135i62910c36ra96c9ea8acbdbf87@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2006 10:32:46.0126 (UTC) FILETIME=[3DFF94E0:01C6F9B3] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.514 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.404, BAYES_05=-1.11] X-Spam-Score: -1.514 X-Spam-Level: Cc: kerneljack@kerneljack.com, jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, Laszlo Pandy , David Morley Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:32:59 -0000 Stuart Langridge wrote: > Jono (or anyone else with Cubase): what's the format of a project >From a quick look at some Cubase SX 2 files from my work machine, I'd say it's a customised version of the RIFF file format which is quite interesting (for those not used to messing with file data, the RIFF format is a structure used in WAV files and also some video formats IIRC). >From a coding point of view, it's a bit more of a pain than if it was in XML or similar, but a lot better than a completely unkown binary format. Cheers, J From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Fri Oct 27 06:36:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05FB43B0087 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:36:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29061-09 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:36:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F043B00DB for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:36:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d4so1123909nfe for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 03:36:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.129.8 with SMTP id b8mr1287462bud; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 03:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 03:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610270336nac5a86cq93510dcbff174b27@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:36:23 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Jason Field" In-Reply-To: <4541E04E.9060209@jasonfield.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45413E49.1040803@gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610270031h829fedrb6c097742adc8b62@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610270135i62910c36ra96c9ea8acbdbf87@mail.gmail.com> <4541E04E.9060209@jasonfield.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4586bc6e29f89b82 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.344 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.056, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.344 X-Spam-Level: Cc: kerneljack@kerneljack.com, jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, Laszlo Pandy , David Morley Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:36:27 -0000 On 10/27/06, Jason Field wrote: > Stuart Langridge wrote: > > Jono (or anyone else with Cubase): what's the format of a project > From a quick look at some Cubase SX 2 files from my work machine, I'd > say it's a customised version of the RIFF file format which is quite > interesting (for those not used to messing with file data, the RIFF > format is a structure used in WAV files and also some video formats IIRC). > > From a coding point of view, it's a bit more of a pain than if it was in > XML or similar, but a lot better than a completely unkown binary format. That's the audio; where's all the project metadata? Or is that in the audio files too? sil -- Medio tutissimus ibis. (You will travel safest in a middle course) -- family motto From chris-procter@talk21.com Fri Oct 27 06:43:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24FA83B0094 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:43:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29766-06 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:43:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web86601.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web86601.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.134]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3AC2C3B0081 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:43:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 74071 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Oct 2006 10:43:11 -0000 Message-ID: <20061027104311.74069.qmail@web86601.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Received: from [80.68.82.133] by web86601.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:43:10 BST Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:43:10 +0100 (BST) From: chris procter To: Jokosher gnome In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.675 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708, TW_KN=0.077] X-Spam-Score: 0.675 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Interest in Jokosher X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:43:15 -0000 --- Panos Laganakos wrote: > I saw the flikr photo stream from the stand. > > Looks awesome (and so did the flyer :)) The flyers were awesome, I honestly think they were some of the best there. Most of the people we talked to said they'd never heard of Jokosher so the "audio production made simple" tag line and the bullet pointed poster/handout in its distinctive colour scheme really helped get peoples attention with people stopping to read them and then getting drawn in by the helpful and enthusiastic volunteers :) We also had the advantage of the Linux User And Developer magazine people giving away their latest issue complete with an article on "Audio editing made simple" by a certain Michael Sheldon talking about an orange and green app you may of heard of... All good stuff for raising the projects profile, even if theres not a sudden rush of patches and bug reports over the weekend. On a related note I had several people comment on how good Jokosher looked in general and how it seemed very obvious to use so congrats to everyone involved in the looknfeel you're obviously doing something right! chris Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Fri Oct 27 06:53:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007763B0081 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:53:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30231-09 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:53:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E8EA3B00B9 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:53:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1265261nfa for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 03:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.111.8 with SMTP id j8mr1285434buc; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 03:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 03:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610270353l5e4c1578od12e865828a7ecd0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:53:03 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Jokosher Mailing List" In-Reply-To: <20061027104311.74069.qmail@web86601.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061027104311.74069.qmail@web86601.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: b83e6a46211c63a9 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.416 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.875, BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.416 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Interest in Jokosher X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:53:06 -0000 I'd like to add a shortish writeup of how the Expo stand went to jokosher.org news; would someone who was actually, y'know, *there* like to write something up so I can post it? sil -- Medio tutissimus ibis. (You will travel safest in a middle course) -- family motto From john@thegreens.co.uk Fri Oct 27 07:01:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E67043B00B9 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:01:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30789-06 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.138]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D85C3B00A3 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:01:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 68268 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2006 11:00:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Oct 2006 11:00:59 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3E91C77F16; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:00:59 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:00:59 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061027110059.GA23496@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.156 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.374, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.156 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Extension weirdness X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:01:05 -0000 Does this happen to anyone else? I have two identical Jokosher setups, with the exact same revs of Jokosher and extensions and all extensions in ~/.jokosher/extensions. On one machine the extensions all load fine. On the other the .egg files don't. I instead get the message 'No module named APIConsole' or similar and I've no idea why. Now if on the misbehaving machine I start Jokosher without the gst-head trick then all the eggs load fine so maybe it's to do with the number of entries in PYTHONPATH or something like that. Whatever it's very odd and a little worrying. -- John Green From jason@jasonfield.com Fri Oct 27 07:06:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBB43B0155 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:06:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31117-04 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:06:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sonaptic.com (unknown [82.110.122.149]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 401693B0136 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:06:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.162] ([192.168.0.162]) by sonaptic.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:06:49 +0100 Message-ID: <4541E849.1070707@jasonfield.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:06:49 +0100 From: Jason Field User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stuart Langridge References: <45413E49.1040803@gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610270031h829fedrb6c097742adc8b62@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610270135i62910c36ra96c9ea8acbdbf87@mail.gmail.com> <4541E04E.9060209@jasonfield.com> <4c91566f0610270336nac5a86cq93510dcbff174b27@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610270336nac5a86cq93510dcbff174b27@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2006 11:06:49.0643 (UTC) FILETIME=[000787B0:01C6F9B8] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.201 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.398, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.201 X-Spam-Level: Cc: kerneljack@kerneljack.com, jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, Laszlo Pandy , David Morley Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:06:54 -0000 Stuart Langridge wrote: > On 10/27/06, Jason Field wrote: >> Stuart Langridge wrote: >> > Jono (or anyone else with Cubase): what's the format of a project >> From a quick look at some Cubase SX 2 files from my work machine, I'd >> say it's a customised version of the RIFF file format which is quite >> interesting (for those not used to messing with file data, the RIFF >> format is a structure used in WAV files and also some video formats >> IIRC). >> >> From a coding point of view, it's a bit more of a pain than if it was in >> XML or similar, but a lot better than a completely unkown binary format. > > That's the audio; where's all the project metadata? Or is that in the > audio files too? > > sil > Sorry I should have been clearer - I was referring to the .cpr project files. That's why I thought it was interesting that they're in the RIFF format. A WAV is always in the RIFF format hence wouldn't have piqued my curiosity :). I assume that all of the audio files are in standard WAV format, and are then referenced by name from the .cpr file. I'm at work so I don't have the time to do a thorough investigation unfortunately. I'll try to get the time to have a more thorough look tonight. J From ben.thorp@gmail.com Fri Oct 27 07:18:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DED03B00AC for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:18:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31799-07 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:18:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.224]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E643B00EA for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:18:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i30so696717wxd for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.56.2 with SMTP id e2mr5466146wxa; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.123.5 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:18:07 +0100 From: "Ben Thorp" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <4541E849.1070707@jasonfield.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_63301_33403278.1161947887703" References: <45413E49.1040803@gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610270031h829fedrb6c097742adc8b62@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610270135i62910c36ra96c9ea8acbdbf87@mail.gmail.com> <4541E04E.9060209@jasonfield.com> <4c91566f0610270336nac5a86cq93510dcbff174b27@mail.gmail.com> <4541E849.1070707@jasonfield.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.081 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-1.378, BAYES_05=-1.11, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_00_10=0.795, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LENGTH=1.574, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: 0.081 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:18:13 -0000 ------=_Part_63301_33403278.1161947887703 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline FWIW, the application in confusion is Jahshaka ( ------=_Part_63301_33403278.1161947887703 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline FWIW, the application in confusion is Jahshaka (
------=_Part_63301_33403278.1161947887703-- From ben.thorp@gmail.com Fri Oct 27 07:18:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC4C3B0161 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:18:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31799-08 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:18:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.236]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B293B00A3 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:18:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i30so696825wxd for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:18:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.53.7 with SMTP id b7mr5464119wxa; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:18:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.123.5 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:18:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:18:39 +0100 From: "Ben Thorp" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_63313_6340308.1161947919412" References: <45413E49.1040803@gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610270031h829fedrb6c097742adc8b62@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610270135i62910c36ra96c9ea8acbdbf87@mail.gmail.com> <4541E04E.9060209@jasonfield.com> <4c91566f0610270336nac5a86cq93510dcbff174b27@mail.gmail.com> <4541E849.1070707@jasonfield.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.504 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.895, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.504 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:18:42 -0000 ------=_Part_63313_6340308.1161947919412 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dammit - gmail playing up for me - was trying to paste the url too http://www.jahshaka.org/ :) On 10/27/06, Ben Thorp wrote: > > FWIW, the application in confusion is Jahshaka ( > ------=_Part_63313_6340308.1161947919412 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dammit - gmail playing up for me - was trying to paste the url too

http://www.jahshaka.org/

:)

On 10/27/06, Ben Thorp <ben.thorp@gmail.com> wrote:
FWIW, the application in confusion is Jahshaka (

------=_Part_63313_6340308.1161947919412-- From niels@kjoller.eu Tue Oct 24 08:49:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1C13B0072 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:49:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25527-04 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:49:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pfepc.post.tele.dk (pfepc.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2973B0071 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:49:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (cpe.atm2-0-101334.0x50a67d26.bynxx14.customer.tele.dk [80.166.125.38]) by pfepc.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8040C8A0090 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:49:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Niels =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kj=F8ller?= Hansen To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-/JX7PddoGlJk+ui0nmb0" Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:49:06 +0200 Message-Id: <1161694147.30606.11.camel@niels-laptop.kvintus.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:45:07 -0400 Subject: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Fixed: Ticket #169 (No way to delete projects from welcome dialog) X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:49:08 -0000 --=-/JX7PddoGlJk+ui0nmb0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, This is my first patch for Jokosher, as well as any other project. I added a button below the 'Open Recent Project' and tied it up to a new function in JokosherApp.py called RemoveRecentProject I also added a self.model.clear() to PopulateRecentProjects in WelcomeDialog.py to empty it before appending the projects. It seems that my changes to Jokosher.glade has made the patch file very large. nibil on #jokosher thinks it's because the latest change was made with Glade 2. I used Glade 3.0.2. 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ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so641011ugb for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 05:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.160.2 with SMTP id i2mr4799078hue; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 05:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 05:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610270547x2944175esf6fbc5f137246381@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 13:47:23 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Niels_Kj=F8ller_Hansen?=" In-Reply-To: <1161694147.30606.11.camel@niels-laptop.kvintus.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1161694147.30606.11.camel@niels-laptop.kvintus.dk> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.213 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.187, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.213 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Fixed: Ticket #169 (No way to delete projects from welcome dialog) X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:48:47 -0000 Hi, Sorry, this was an admin moderated request, so you may have seen this before. Jono From davmor2@gmail.com Fri Oct 27 10:03:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208363B0081 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:03:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09728-10 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:03:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71C63B00D7 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:03:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so661536ugb for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.117.2 with SMTP id u2mr4929383ugm; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610270703p2b2ff28ci5a5751fe751a684f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:03:37 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: "Stuart Langridge" In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610270353l5e4c1578od12e865828a7ecd0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061027104311.74069.qmail@web86601.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4c91566f0610270353l5e4c1578od12e865828a7ecd0@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Mailing List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Interest in Jokosher X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:03:41 -0000 On 27/10/06, Stuart Langridge wrote: > I'd like to add a shortish writeup of how the Expo stand went to > jokosher.org news; would someone who was actually, y'know, *there* > like to write something up so I can post it? > Aq what would you actually like to know about it and I'll post you something. -- Seek That Thy Might Know From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Fri Oct 27 10:20:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAAB93B0098 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:20:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10880-05 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498173B0070 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:20:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so666321ugb for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.126.19 with SMTP id y19mr1403183buc; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610270720k26d4ff3fw30fbca3f3f5bce7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:20:51 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "David Morley" , "Jokosher Mailing List" In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610270703p2b2ff28ci5a5751fe751a684f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061027104311.74069.qmail@web86601.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4c91566f0610270353l5e4c1578od12e865828a7ecd0@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610270703p2b2ff28ci5a5751fe751a684f@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 702c3ca2481f82c6 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.243 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.157, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.243 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Interest in Jokosher X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:20:57 -0000 On 10/27/06, David Morley wrote: > On 27/10/06, Stuart Langridge wrote: > > I'd like to add a shortish writeup of how the Expo stand went to > > jokosher.org news; would someone who was actually, y'know, *there* > > like to write something up so I can post it? > > > Aq what would you actually like to know about it and I'll post you something. Cor, I dunno. What went on. Something that would be good on the site to show that the project is still kicking some arse :) sil -- Also, thank you for reducing my productivity by introducing me to bash.org -- Tim From davmor2@gmail.com Fri Oct 27 14:24:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EA73B0142 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29705-09 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:24:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366043B0199 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so734753ugb for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.117.2 with SMTP id u2mr5392535ugm; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610271124u589cf5e7t3525c18dc566f666@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:24:00 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: stuart.langridge@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.186 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.186 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Mailing List Subject: [jokosher-devel] How about this then X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 18:24:23 -0000 Day one in the big brother house.(Said in a tongue in cheek Geordie accent) After a hectic start both people entered the show, we wondered if we had over done the mass printing effort. Fortunately though the shows pace increased and things steadily got busier to the point where the music could no longer be heard over the noise of people talking. Not the greatest of demos that, an audio program where you can't hear the audio (memo to self next year big speakers). However we managed to demo our way through the day on the two laptop present, and on the whole everyone that saw the project was very impressed with the general look and feel of the program. One of the main questions asked was who we were aiming the product at? To which we replied it is aimed at musicians it is basic and functional, it is easy to use and briefly demoed how to cut and paste into new instruments feeds, splitting the audio and in general messing about with the original import of Jono's free software song. Stupid question of the day went to the chap from Zend who asked at a stall in the ".org village." "How were going to make money?" Isn't that just the most Homer forehead slapping D'oh question ever. By the end of the first day we had talked ourselves horse, nearly run out of flyers and had a great time. Some people seemed to take a really genuine interest in the project where as others asked a couple of questions and were gone. One of the things that impressed me the most was just how many people at the show were Techs from local schools, colleges and universities. Many of these people were very interested in it's development and said they would definitely keep on eye on Jokoshers progress. A guy from bt said he would install it on his Linux pc to demo the project to his cubase, windows using son (that one amused us a little). Final thoughts. Jokosher was in the busiest section of the .org village. We were amazed by the amount of people who took an interest in the stall and the project as a whole. Many of the people who came to the stall said they would definitely check it out, the less determined amongst them said they would check out 0.1 an not compile gstreamer cvs thank you very much. However of the people who said they would check it out most said they would install when 1.0 comes out. On the whole it was a really impressive day with a high turn out and a really stunning response to the Jokosher project. Everyone should be proud of the work they have put into this project it'll rock Jono said so;) (got to add the winky smile for Jono, you know you have) -- Seek That Thy Might Know From atomic0x@gmail.com Sun Oct 29 12:05:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608023B00FA for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:05:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14357-09 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:05:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A0F3B00EF for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:05:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so915456nzf for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 09:05:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.156.12 with SMTP id d12mr2972495qbe; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 09:05:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.101? ( [72.140.113.171]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id d5sm3429633qbd.2006.10.29.09.05.54; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 09:05:55 -0800 (PST) From: Adam Reid To: Jokosher development list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-T4i/dUU+597Ax8ys52zz" Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:05:49 -0500 Message-Id: <1162141549.10438.46.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.323 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_GT=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.323 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Tooltips for most of the interface X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:05:58 -0000 --=-T4i/dUU+597Ax8ys52zz Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, This is my first patch ever for any project, but I love what you guys are doing so I thought I'd help where I can. This patch contains tooltips for almost everything. Things I haven't done yet are the balance sliders, zoom sliders, and context sensitivity for the workspace button. I can't quite wrap my head around how to manipulate the widget properties from the wTree. Let me know if there are any problems with this patch or if I missed other things. Cheers, Adam Reid --=-T4i/dUU+597Ax8ys52zz Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=tooltips.patch Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=tooltips.patch; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: Jokosher/Jokosher.glade =================================================================== --- Jokosher/Jokosher.glade (revision 851) +++ Jokosher/Jokosher.glade (working copy) @@ -51,6 +51,7 @@ True + Create a new project gtk-new True @@ -60,6 +61,7 @@ True + Open an existing project gtk-open True @@ -69,6 +71,7 @@ True + Save the current project gtk-save True @@ -78,6 +81,7 @@ True + Save a copy of the current project gtk-save-as True @@ -87,6 +91,7 @@ True + Close the current project gtk-close True @@ -96,6 +101,7 @@ True + Open a recent project Recent Projects True @@ -110,6 +116,7 @@ True + Export current project to an audio file _Mixdown Project True @@ -137,6 +144,7 @@ True + Quit Jokosher gtk-quit True @@ -160,6 +168,7 @@ True + Undo the last edit Undo True @@ -182,6 +191,7 @@ True + Redo the previous edit Redo True @@ -210,6 +220,7 @@ True + Cut the current selection gtk-cut True @@ -219,6 +230,7 @@ True + Copy the current selection gtk-copy True @@ -228,6 +240,7 @@ True + Paste the contents of the clipboard gtk-paste True @@ -237,6 +250,7 @@ True + Delete the current selection gtk-delete True @@ -252,6 +266,7 @@ True + Edit Jokosher preferences gtk-preferences True @@ -275,6 +290,7 @@ True + Add an instrument to the project Add Instrument True @@ -296,6 +312,7 @@ True + Change the selected instrument type Change Instrument Type True @@ -305,6 +322,7 @@ True + Manage instrument recording inputs Instrument Connections True @@ -326,6 +344,7 @@ True + Change the timeline Time Format True @@ -335,6 +354,7 @@ True + Change the timeline to show bars, beats and ticks Show as Bars, Beats, Ticks True True @@ -345,6 +365,7 @@ True + Change the timeline to show hours, minutes and seconds Show as Hours, Minutes, Seconds True True @@ -379,6 +400,7 @@ True + Open the extension manager _Manage Extensions True @@ -401,6 +423,7 @@ True + Notes about this release Pre-release Notes True @@ -422,6 +445,7 @@ True + Find out how you can help Contributing to Jokosher True @@ -443,6 +467,7 @@ True + Version information, credits and licence gtk-about True @@ -477,6 +502,7 @@ True + Add a new instrument Add Instrument True gtk-add @@ -484,8 +510,8 @@ True False + - @@ -511,13 +537,14 @@ True + Click and hold to rewind gtk-media-rewind True True False + - @@ -531,13 +558,14 @@ True False + Stop playback gtk-media-stop True True False + - @@ -550,14 +578,15 @@ True + Start playback gtk-media-play True True False False + - @@ -570,13 +599,14 @@ True + Click and hold to fast forward gtk-media-forward True True False + - @@ -690,6 +720,7 @@ True + Switch to Recording workspace True Recording True @@ -709,6 +740,7 @@ True + Switch to Mixing workspace True Mixing True @@ -1219,9 +1251,10 @@ + 12 True False - 0 + 12 @@ -1251,6 +1284,7 @@ True + Type here to search for an instrument True True True @@ -1312,6 +1346,7 @@ True + Don't add an instrument True True gtk-cancel @@ -1325,6 +1360,7 @@ True + Add the selected instrument True True gtk-ok @@ -2106,6 +2142,7 @@ True + Save preferences and close True True gtk-close @@ -2217,6 +2254,7 @@ True + Enter the authors name True True True @@ -2315,6 +2353,7 @@ True + Enter the projects name True True True @@ -2392,6 +2431,7 @@ True + Don't create the project True True gtk-cancel @@ -2405,6 +2445,7 @@ True + Create the project True True gtk-ok @@ -2512,6 +2553,7 @@ True + Double-click on a recent project to open True False False @@ -2533,6 +2575,7 @@ True + Select a project to open from the list True GTK_RELIEF_NORMAL True @@ -2625,6 +2668,7 @@ True + Start Jokosher with an empty project True GTK_RELIEF_NORMAL True @@ -2704,6 +2748,7 @@ True + Find and open an existing project True GTK_RELIEF_NORMAL True @@ -2783,6 +2828,7 @@ True + Change Jokosher preferences True GTK_RELIEF_NORMAL True @@ -2862,6 +2908,7 @@ True + Quit Jokosher True gtk-quit True @@ -2894,6 +2941,7 @@ True + I'm sorry, do I annoy you? True Don't show this on start-up True @@ -2945,6 +2993,7 @@ True + Save your connections and close this widow True True gtk-close @@ -3042,6 +3091,7 @@ True + Stop mixing the project True True gtk-cancel @@ -3583,6 +3633,7 @@ True + Listen to these effects True True gtk-media-play @@ -3596,6 +3647,7 @@ True + Don't use these effects True True gtk-cancel @@ -3609,6 +3661,7 @@ True + Use these effects True True gtk-ok @@ -3754,6 +3807,7 @@ True + Add the selected effect True gtk-add True @@ -3848,6 +3902,7 @@ True + Type the presets name True True 0 @@ -3868,6 +3923,7 @@ True + Save the current effects configuration True gtk-save True @@ -4208,6 +4264,7 @@ True + Edit Jokosher preferences gtk-preferences True GTK_RELIEF_NORMAL @@ -4276,6 +4333,7 @@ 85 True + Close the extension manager gtk-close True GTK_RELIEF_NORMAL Index: Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py (revision 851) +++ Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py (working copy) @@ -11,6 +11,8 @@ import gtk import TimeLine +import gettext +_=gettext.gettext class TimeLineBar(gtk.Frame): def __init__(self, project, projectview, mainview): @@ -24,11 +26,15 @@ # add click / bpm / signature box self.clickbutton = gtk.ToggleButton("C") + self.clicktip = gtk.Tooltips() + self.clicktip.set_tip(self.clickbutton,_("Turn click track on"),None) self.clickbutton.connect("toggled", self.OnClick) self.bpmeventbox = gtk.EventBox() self.bpmeventbox.modify_bg(gtk.STATE_NORMAL, gtk.gdk.color_parse("#87d987")) self.bpmframe = gtk.Frame() + self.bpmframetip = gtk.Tooltips() + self.bpmframetip.set_tip(self.bpmframe, _("Beats per minute"), None) self.bpmframe.set_shadow_type(gtk.SHADOW_ETCHED_OUT) self.bpmframe.modify_bg(gtk.STATE_NORMAL, gtk.gdk.color_parse("#87d987")) @@ -211,6 +217,7 @@ #_____________________________________________________________________ def OnClick(self, widget): + self.clicktip.set_tip(self.clickbutton, _("Turn click track off"),None) dlg = gtk.MessageDialog(None, gtk.DIALOG_MODAL | gtk.DIALOG_DESTROY_WITH_PARENT, gtk.MESSAGE_WARNING, Index: Jokosher/JokosherApp.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/JokosherApp.py (revision 851) +++ Jokosher/JokosherApp.py (working copy) @@ -37,7 +37,9 @@ gtk.glade.textdomain(Globals.LOCALE_APP) self.wTree = gtk.glade.XML(Globals.GLADE_PATH, "MainWindow") - + def printTree(): + for widget in wTree: + print widget #Connect event handlers signals = { "on_MainWindow_destroy" : self.OnDestroy, --=-T4i/dUU+597Ax8ys52zz-- From kelly_worth2003@yahoo.co.uk Sun Oct 29 19:57:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D4D3B01BF for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 19:57:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15808-03 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 19:57:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.79]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 461B33B007E for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 19:57:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 77685 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2006 00:57:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.100.55?) (kelly?worth2003@81.156.35.228 with plain) by smtp010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2006 00:57:27 -0000 From: John Kelly To: Jokosher development list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-hl6ih37HOc1CWl+ZIzog" Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 00:56:00 +0000 Message-Id: <1162169760.4429.10.camel@edgy> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS=0.291] X-Spam-Score: -0.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Make dialogs centre on their parent window X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 00:57:31 -0000 --=-hl6ih37HOc1CWl+ZIzog Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone, This patch enables most dialogs to centre on the window its called from. Im pretty sure nearly all the dialogs centre on their parent window. Please let me know if there are any ive missed. Ive set the main jokosher window to centre on screen. Ive done some other small changes. I made the file chooser button in the new project dialog fill horizontally and i set the shadow type of the recent projects scrolled window to gtk.SHADOW_IN. The last change was probably unnecessary but i think it makes the recent projects list look neater. Any feedback on the changes ive made are welcome. Regards, John --=-hl6ih37HOc1CWl+ZIzog Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=dialogs_centred.diff Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=dialogs_centred.diff; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: Jokosher/InstrumentConnectionsDialog.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/InstrumentConnectionsDialog.py (revision 852) +++ Jokosher/InstrumentConnectionsDialog.py (working copy) @@ -42,6 +42,8 @@ self.parent = parent self.window.set_icon(self.parent.icon) + ## centre the InstrumentConnectionsDialog on the main jokosher window + self.window.set_transient_for(self.parent.window) self.window.show_all() #_____________________________________________________________________ Index: Jokosher/Jokosher.glade =================================================================== --- Jokosher/Jokosher.glade (revision 852) +++ Jokosher/Jokosher.glade (working copy) @@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ True Jokosher GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL - GTK_WIN_POS_NONE + GTK_WIN_POS_CENTER False 500 400 @@ -510,8 +510,8 @@ True False + - @@ -543,8 +543,8 @@ True False + - @@ -564,8 +564,8 @@ True False + - @@ -585,8 +585,8 @@ False False + - @@ -605,8 +605,8 @@ True False + - @@ -1205,14 +1205,14 @@ True Add an instrument GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL - GTK_WIN_POS_NONE + GTK_WIN_POS_CENTER_ON_PARENT True True False True False False - GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_NORMAL + GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_DIALOG GDK_GRAVITY_CENTER True False @@ -1385,14 +1385,14 @@ True Preferences GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL - GTK_WIN_POS_NONE + GTK_WIN_POS_CENTER_ON_PARENT False True False True False False - GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_NORMAL + GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_DIALOG GDK_GRAVITY_NORTH_WEST True False @@ -2167,14 +2167,14 @@ True New Project GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL - GTK_WIN_POS_NONE + GTK_WIN_POS_CENTER_ON_PARENT True True False True False False - GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_NORMAL + GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_DIALOG GDK_GRAVITY_NORTH_WEST True False @@ -2303,26 +2303,6 @@ - - True - Select A Folder - GTK_FILE_CHOOSER_ACTION_SELECT_FOLDER - True - False - False - -1 - - - 1 - 2 - 1 - 2 - - - - - - True Folder @@ -2399,6 +2379,26 @@ + + + + True + Select A Folder + GTK_FILE_CHOOSER_ACTION_SELECT_FOLDER + True + False + False + -1 + + + 1 + 2 + 1 + 2 + fill + + + 0 @@ -2547,7 +2547,7 @@ True GTK_POLICY_NEVER GTK_POLICY_NEVER - GTK_SHADOW_NONE + GTK_SHADOW_IN GTK_CORNER_TOP_LEFT @@ -2966,7 +2966,7 @@ True Instrument Connections GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL - GTK_WIN_POS_NONE + GTK_WIN_POS_CENTER_ON_PARENT False True False @@ -3182,14 +3182,14 @@ True Contributing to Jokosher GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL - GTK_WIN_POS_NONE + GTK_WIN_POS_CENTER_ON_PARENT False True False True False False - GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_NORMAL + GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_DIALOG GDK_GRAVITY_NORTH_WEST True False @@ -3606,14 +3606,14 @@ True Configure Instrument Effects GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL - GTK_WIN_POS_NONE + GTK_WIN_POS_CENTER_ON_PARENT False True False True False False - GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_NORMAL + GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_DIALOG GDK_GRAVITY_NORTH_WEST True False @@ -3967,14 +3967,14 @@ True Settings GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL - GTK_WIN_POS_NONE + GTK_WIN_POS_CENTER_ON_PARENT False True False True False False - GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_NORMAL + GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_DIALOG GDK_GRAVITY_NORTH_WEST True False @@ -4156,7 +4156,7 @@ Extension Manager GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL - GTK_WIN_POS_NONE + GTK_WIN_POS_CENTER_ON_PARENT True 400 300 @@ -4165,7 +4165,7 @@ True False False - GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_NORMAL + GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_DIALOG GDK_GRAVITY_NORTH_WEST True False Index: Jokosher/JokosherApp.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/JokosherApp.py (revision 852) +++ Jokosher/JokosherApp.py (working copy) @@ -1106,13 +1106,15 @@ def OnContributingDialog(self, widget): self.contribTree = gtk.glade.XML(Globals.GLADE_PATH, "ContributingDialog") + + # grab reference to the ContributingDialog window + self.contribdialog = self.contribTree.get_widget("ContributingDialog") self.topimage = self.contribTree.get_widget("topimage") self.topimage.set_from_file(os.path.join(Globals.IMAGE_PATH, "jokosher-logo.png")) - # grab some references to bits of the GUI - self.contribdialog = self.wTree.get_widget("ContributingDialog") - #self.contribdialog.show_all() + # centre the ContributingDialog window on MainWindow + self.contribdialog.set_transient_for(self.window) #_____________________________________________________________________ --=-hl6ih37HOc1CWl+ZIzog-- Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From laszlok2@gmail.com Sun Oct 29 20:54:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB323B00DB for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:54:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20095-03 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:54:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.205]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB833B000D for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:54:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so992423nzf for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:54:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.176.7 with SMTP id d7mr3663602qbp; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:54:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id q15sm4239172qbq.2006.10.29.17.54.51; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:54:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45455B7B.7080904@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:55:07 -0500 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Reid References: <1162141549.10438.46.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1162141549.10438.46.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.323 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_GT=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.323 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher development list Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Tooltips for most of the interface X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 01:54:53 -0000 Adam Reid wrote: > Hello all, > > This is my first patch ever for any project, but I love what you guys > are doing so I thought I'd help where I can. > > This patch contains tooltips for almost everything. Wow, impressive. :) > Things I haven't > done yet are the balance sliders, zoom sliders, and context sensitivity > for the workspace button. I can't quite wrap my head around how to > manipulate the widget properties from the wTree. Its simple. Just do self.wTree.get_widget("thewidgetname"), where the widget's name is the name given in the glade file. That function call returns the instance of the gtk widget that was created when the gui was loaded by libglade. Say I wanted to change tset the tooltip on a gtk.Label that was in the glade file: self.mylabel = self.wTree.get_widget("mylabel") labeltip = gtk.Tooltips() labeltip.set_tip(self.mylabel, _("Turn click track on"), None) > Let me know if there are any problems with this patch or if I missed > other things. Ya, just one thing. See below. > Index: Jokosher/JokosherApp.py > =================================================================== > --- Jokosher/JokosherApp.py (revision 851) > +++ Jokosher/JokosherApp.py (working copy) > @@ -37,7 +37,9 @@ > gtk.glade.textdomain(Globals.LOCALE_APP) > > self.wTree = gtk.glade.XML(Globals.GLADE_PATH, "MainWindow") > - > + def printTree(): > + for widget in wTree: > + print widget Is the function printTree() supposed to be there? I really don't think so, and even if it should be there, it shouldn't be printing to the console. We use Globals.debug() instead. Since Jono already committed your patch unchanged, I will blame him for the lack of quality control in his patch review. Thanks for the patch adam! Laszlo From jonobacon@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 03:37:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387333B000D for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 03:37:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03428-08 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 03:37:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228A33B0096 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 03:37:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2224272nfa for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 00:37:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.149.13 with SMTP id w13mr4479101hud; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 00:37:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 00:37:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610300037x2676de43tc5e5b84b2d1faf4d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:37:54 +0000 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "Laszlo Pandy" In-Reply-To: <45455B7B.7080904@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1162141549.10438.46.camel@localhost> <45455B7B.7080904@gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.438 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.038, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.438 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher development list , Adam Reid Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Tooltips for most of the interface X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:37:59 -0000 On 10/30/06, Laszlo Pandy wrote: > Since Jono already committed your patch unchanged, I will blame him for > the lack of quality control in his patch review. In my defence, I did see that. But, in your defense, I forgot to take it out or at least use the debug output system. :P Jono From kelly_worth2003@yahoo.co.uk Mon Oct 30 06:27:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E773B000D for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:27:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17545-09 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:27:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.34]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A042B3B007E for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:27:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 68165 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2006 11:27:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.100.55?) (kelly?worth2003@81.156.35.228 with plain) by smtp003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2006 11:27:37 -0000 From: John Kelly To: Jokosher development list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-k4QcGPxGR/mVpL/0RfEl" Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:27:31 +0000 Message-Id: <1162207651.8370.4.camel@edgy> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.459 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS=0.291] X-Spam-Score: 1.459 X-Spam-Level: * Subject: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] close button in about dialog now destroys window X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:27:43 -0000 --=-k4QcGPxGR/mVpL/0RfEl Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone, This is a very minor fix but now the About Dialog gets destroyed when the close button is clicked. The close button didnt destroy the window before. Regards, John. --=-k4QcGPxGR/mVpL/0RfEl Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=about_dialog_destroy.diff Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=about_dialog_destroy.diff; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: JokosherApp.py =================================================================== --- JokosherApp.py (revision 855) +++ JokosherApp.py (working copy) @@ -265,6 +265,8 @@ dlg = aboutTree.get_widget("AboutDialog") dlg.set_transient_for(self.window) dlg.set_icon(self.icon) + dlg.run() + dlg.destroy() #_____________________________________________________________________ --=-k4QcGPxGR/mVpL/0RfEl-- Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From kelly_worth2003@yahoo.co.uk Mon Oct 30 07:17:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867083B0002 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:17:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21655-04 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:17:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.35]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 52C623B000D for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:17:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 87081 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2006 12:17:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.100.55?) (kelly?worth2003@81.156.35.228 with plain) by smtp004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2006 12:17:10 -0000 From: John Kelly To: Jokosher development list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-C2H3Hhi4+Crv/0Ll2d29" Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:17:07 +0000 Message-Id: <1162210627.10730.2.camel@edgy> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=2.014 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS=0.291] X-Spam-Score: 2.014 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Flag: YES Subject: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] use gtk.gdk.threads_init() as gtk.threads_init() is now deprecated X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:17:13 -0000 --=-C2H3Hhi4+Crv/0Ll2d29 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone, Another minor fix. gtk.gdk.threads_init() is now used as gtk.threads_init() is now deprecated. Regards, John. --=-C2H3Hhi4+Crv/0Ll2d29 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=about_dialog_destroy.diff Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=about_dialog_destroy.diff; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: JokosherApp.py =================================================================== --- JokosherApp.py (revision 855) +++ JokosherApp.py (working copy) @@ -265,6 +265,8 @@ dlg = aboutTree.get_widget("AboutDialog") dlg.set_transient_for(self.window) dlg.set_icon(self.icon) + dlg.run() + dlg.destroy() #_____________________________________________________________________ --=-C2H3Hhi4+Crv/0Ll2d29-- Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From kelly_worth2003@yahoo.co.uk Mon Oct 30 07:18:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF6C3B0002 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:18:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21771-04 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:18:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.96]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED8C13B02C3 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:18:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 87737 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2006 12:18:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.100.55?) (kelly?worth2003@81.156.35.228 with plain) by smtp007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2006 12:18:55 -0000 From: John Kelly To: Jokosher development list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-kqANlqltNUNkaDEZXjWt" Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:18:52 +0000 Message-Id: <1162210732.10730.5.camel@edgy> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=2.014 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS=0.291] X-Spam-Score: 2.014 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Flag: YES Subject: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] use gtk.gdk.threads_init() as gtk.threads_init() is now deprecated X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:18:58 -0000 --=-kqANlqltNUNkaDEZXjWt Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone, gtk.gdk.threads_init() is now used as gtk.threads_init() is now deprecated. oops, ignore the last email. wrong patch attatched John. --=-kqANlqltNUNkaDEZXjWt Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=threads_deprecated.diff Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=threads_deprecated.diff; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: JokosherApp.py =================================================================== --- JokosherApp.py (revision 855) +++ JokosherApp.py (working copy) @@ -1168,7 +1168,7 @@ def main(): MainApp() - gtk.threads_init() + gtk.gdk.threads_init() gtk.main() --=-kqANlqltNUNkaDEZXjWt-- Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From kelly_worth2003@yahoo.co.uk Mon Oct 30 07:56:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44173B02F3 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:56:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24334-02 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:56:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.79]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 602983B002A for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:56:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14046 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2006 12:56:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.100.55?) (kelly?worth2003@81.156.35.228 with plain) by smtp010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2006 12:56:18 -0000 From: John Kelly To: Jokosher development list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-wiAPNeGTXXAgirzAydgB" Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:56:14 +0000 Message-Id: <1162212974.11859.5.camel@edgy> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=2.014 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS=0.291] X-Spam-Score: 2.014 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Flag: YES Subject: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] recent project menu items now have tooltips that contain a label showing the user where their recent projects are stored. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:56:21 -0000 --=-wiAPNeGTXXAgirzAydgB Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone, The recent project menu items now have tooltips. The tooltips contain a label of where the user's projects are stored. Regards, John --=-wiAPNeGTXXAgirzAydgB Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=recentprojects_menuitems_tooltips.diff Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=recentprojects_menuitems_tooltips.diff; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: JokosherApp.py =================================================================== --- JokosherApp.py (revision 855) +++ JokosherApp.py (working copy) @@ -721,6 +721,8 @@ if self.recentprojectitems: for item in self.recentprojectitems: mitem = gtk.MenuItem(item[1]) + tooltips = gtk.Tooltips() + tooltips.set_tip(mitem, item[0], None) self.recentprojectsmenu.append(mitem) mitem.connect("activate", self.OnRecentProjectsItem, item[0], item[1]) --=-wiAPNeGTXXAgirzAydgB-- ___________________________________________________________ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" – The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From atomic0x@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 08:04:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B05423B0138 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:04:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24938-07 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:04:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.196]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F873B018D for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:04:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so1113121nzf for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:04:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.193.8 with SMTP id q8mr4647269qbf; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:04:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.101? ( [72.140.113.171]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id c6sm5159278qbc.2006.10.30.05.04.23; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:04:23 -0800 (PST) From: Adam Reid To: Jokosher development list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-HBGezi/oHBIrTDMj9iEu" Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:04:19 -0500 Message-Id: <1162213459.20978.8.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] bad patch? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:04:25 -0000 --=-HBGezi/oHBIrTDMj9iEu Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All, I checked out rev 855 this morning and there was some problem with the patch that I sent out, because there were patch strings scattered throughout JokosherApp.py. Here is a diff. Adam --=-HBGezi/oHBIrTDMj9iEu Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=reovedpatchstr.patch Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=reovedpatchstr.patch; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py (revision 855) +++ Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py (working copy) @@ -27,6 +27,8 @@ # add click / bpm / signature box self.clickbutton = gtk.ToggleButton("C") self.clicktip = gtk.Tooltips() + self.clicktip.set_tip(self.clickbutton,_("Turn click track on"),None) + self.clicktip = gtk.Tooltips() self.clicktip.set_tip(self.clickbutton, _("Turn click track on"), None) self.clickbutton.connect("toggled", self.OnClick) @@ -217,6 +219,7 @@ #_____________________________________________________________________ def OnClick(self, widget): + self.clicktip.set_tip(self.clickbutton, _("Turn click track off"),None) self.clicktip.set_tip(self.clickbutton, _("Turn click track off"), None) dlg = gtk.MessageDialog(None, gtk.DIALOG_MODAL | gtk.DIALOG_DESTROY_WITH_PARENT, Index: Jokosher/JokosherApp.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/JokosherApp.py (revision 855) +++ Jokosher/JokosherApp.py (working copy) @@ -37,7 +37,6 @@ gtk.glade.textdomain(Globals.LOCALE_APP) self.wTree = gtk.glade.XML(Globals.GLADE_PATH, "MainWindow") - #Connect event handlers signals = { "on_MainWindow_destroy" : self.OnDestroy, --=-HBGezi/oHBIrTDMj9iEu-- From chris-procter@talk21.com Mon Oct 30 08:24:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6064F3B00B5 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:24:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25880-09 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:24:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.207]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8843A3B036A for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:24:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 70996 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Oct 2006 13:24:56 -0000 Message-ID: <20061030132456.70994.qmail@web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.245.38.105] by web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:24:56 GMT Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:24:56 +0000 (GMT) From: chris procter To: Jokosher development list In-Reply-To: <1162210732.10730.5.camel@edgy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.677 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.768, BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_GT=0.077, TW_YG=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -1.677 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] use gtk.gdk.threads_init() as gtk.threads_init() is now deprecated X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:24:59 -0000 Both this and the About dialog patch fix issues that occur in Edgy which but not in Dapper (due to changes between pygtk 2.8 and 2.10 iirc) so they need to be tested under Dapper, to ensure they dont break stuff. The about dialog should be fine, but the gtk.threads_init() -> gtk.gdk.threads_init() could be a problem chris --- John Kelly wrote: > Hello everyone, > > gtk.gdk.threads_init() is now used as > gtk.threads_init() is now deprecated. > > oops, ignore the last email. wrong patch attatched > > John. > > Index: JokosherApp.py > =================================================================== > --- JokosherApp.py (revision 855) > +++ JokosherApp.py (working copy) > @@ -1168,7 +1168,7 @@ > > def main(): > MainApp() > - gtk.threads_init() > + gtk.gdk.threads_init() > gtk.main() > > > > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From laszlok2@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 08:30:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C78C3B0002 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:30:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26467-04 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:30:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374773B02F3 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:30:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so1119509nzf for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:30:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.38.13 with SMTP id q13mr4611792qbj; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:30:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id q19sm5207878qbq.2006.10.30.05.30.35; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:30:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4545FE89.1000703@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:30:49 -0500 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Reid References: <1162213459.20978.8.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1162213459.20978.8.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher development list Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] bad patch? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:30:40 -0000 Adam Reid wrote: > Hello All, > > I checked out rev 855 this morning and there was some problem with the > patch that I sent out, because there were patch strings scattered > throughout JokosherApp.py. I don't see the problem. Your last patch was committed and this new patch just duplicates some things that are already committed. > > Here is a diff. > > Adam > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Index: Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py > =================================================================== > --- Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py (revision 855) > +++ Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py (working copy) > @@ -27,6 +27,8 @@ > # add click / bpm / signature box > self.clickbutton = gtk.ToggleButton("C") > self.clicktip = gtk.Tooltips() > + self.clicktip.set_tip(self.clickbutton,_("Turn click track on"),None) > + self.clicktip = gtk.Tooltips() > self.clicktip.set_tip(self.clickbutton, _("Turn click track on"), None) See, both those lines are just duplicates of what came before/after it. The only difference it that there is a space after the comma which I added. Laszlo From laszlok2@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 08:42:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800AD3B0337 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:42:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27077-06 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:42:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.236]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1FC3B0002 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:42:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i28so1312825wxd for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:42:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.27.6 with SMTP id a6mr763544aga; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:42:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e10sm5195502qbe.2006.10.30.05.42.53; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:42:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4546016C.7080303@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:43:08 -0500 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chris procter References: <20061030132456.70994.qmail@web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20061030132456.70994.qmail@web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.246 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_GT=0.077, TW_YG=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.246 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher development list Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] use gtk.gdk.threads_init() as gtk.threads_init() is now deprecated X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:42:59 -0000 chris procter wrote: > Both this and the About dialog patch fix issues that > occur in Edgy which but not in Dapper (due to changes > between pygtk 2.8 and 2.10 iirc) so they need to be > tested under Dapper, to ensure they dont break stuff. > > The about dialog should be fine, but the > gtk.threads_init() -> gtk.gdk.threads_init() could be > a problem > IIRC threads init allows you to use python threads in the gobject system. Since we don't actually use python threads anymore, I don't think we even need this, so I've removed it in SVN. Laszlo From mike@mikeasoft.com Mon Oct 30 08:45:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B973B0078 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:45:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27528-01 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:45:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from tallyho.bytemark.co.uk (tallyho.bytemark.co.uk [80.68.81.166]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD493B0395 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:44:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mikeasoft.com ([80.68.92.185]) by tallyho.bytemark.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GeXQo-0002f8-Cg for jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:44:02 +0000 Received: from mike by mikeasoft.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GeXY8-0003gF-00 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:51:36 +0000 Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:51:36 +0000 To: Jokosher development list Message-ID: <20061030135136.GD20291@mikeasoft.com> Mail-Followup-To: Jokosher development list References: <1162213459.20978.8.camel@localhost> <4545FE89.1000703@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4545FE89.1000703@gmail.com> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (Linux) From: Michael Sheldon X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.797 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.764, BAYES_05=-1.11, TW_SV=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -1.797 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] bad patch? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:45:44 -0000 On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 08:30:49AM -0500, Laszlo Pandy wrote: > Adam Reid wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > I checked out rev 855 this morning and there was some problem with the > > patch that I sent out, because there were patch strings scattered > > throughout JokosherApp.py. > > I don't see the problem. Your last patch was committed and this new > patch just duplicates some things that are already committed. Hi Adam, Chances are that there was a collision just with your local copy. See if there are files such as TimeLineBar.mine, TimeLineBar.r855, etc. these are created by svn when there is a collision and contain the different versions of the file. If there's nothing in your local copy you want to keep just delete TimeLineBar.* and run svn up again. Cheers, Mike. > > > > > Here is a diff. > > > > Adam > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Index: Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py > > =================================================================== > > --- Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py (revision 855) > > +++ Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py (working copy) > > @@ -27,6 +27,8 @@ > > # add click / bpm / signature box > > self.clickbutton = gtk.ToggleButton("C") > > self.clicktip = gtk.Tooltips() > > + self.clicktip.set_tip(self.clickbutton,_("Turn click track on"),None) > > + self.clicktip = gtk.Tooltips() > > self.clicktip.set_tip(self.clickbutton, _("Turn click track on"), None) > > See, both those lines are just duplicates of what came before/after it. > The only difference it that there is a space after the comma which I added. > > Laszlo > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > -- Michael Sheldon http://www.mikeasoft.com From atomic0x@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 09:32:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67793B007D for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:32:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30161-10 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:32:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.199]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577CD3B00CA for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:32:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so1133909nzf for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:32:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.78.1 with SMTP id f1mr4909568pyl; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:32:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.134.18 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:32:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:32:07 -0500 From: "Adam Reid" To: "Jokosher development list" In-Reply-To: <20061030135136.GD20291@mikeasoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1162213459.20978.8.camel@localhost> <4545FE89.1000703@gmail.com> <20061030135136.GD20291@mikeasoft.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.323 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_SV=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.323 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] bad patch? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:32:12 -0000 Yep, Sorry about that, I'm still learning. It was just local stuff that caused the problems. Cheers, Adam On 10/30/06, Michael Sheldon wrote: > On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 08:30:49AM -0500, Laszlo Pandy wrote: > > Adam Reid wrote: > > > Hello All, > > > > > > I checked out rev 855 this morning and there was some problem with the > > > patch that I sent out, because there were patch strings scattered > > > throughout JokosherApp.py. > > > > I don't see the problem. Your last patch was committed and this new > > patch just duplicates some things that are already committed. > > Hi Adam, > > Chances are that there was a collision just with your local copy. See if there are files such as TimeLineBar.mine, TimeLineBar.r855, etc. these are created by svn when there is a collision and contain the different versions of the file. If there's nothing in your local copy you want to keep just delete TimeLineBar.* and run svn up again. > > Cheers, > Mike. > > > > > > > > > Here is a diff. > > > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > Index: Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py > > > =================================================================== > > > --- Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py (revision 855) > > > +++ Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py (working copy) > > > @@ -27,6 +27,8 @@ > > > # add click / bpm / signature box > > > self.clickbutton = gtk.ToggleButton("C") > > > self.clicktip = gtk.Tooltips() > > > + self.clicktip.set_tip(self.clickbutton,_("Turn click track on"),None) > > > + self.clicktip = gtk.Tooltips() > > > self.clicktip.set_tip(self.clickbutton, _("Turn click track on"), None) > > > > See, both those lines are just duplicates of what came before/after it. > > The only difference it that there is a space after the comma which I added. > > > > Laszlo > > _______________________________________________ > > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > > > > -- > Michael Sheldon > http://www.mikeasoft.com > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > From john@thegreens.co.uk Mon Oct 30 09:37:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03D53B03AD for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:37:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30616-05 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:36:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8DA093B0366 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:36:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 51369 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2006 14:36:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2006 14:36:56 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 37A0379006; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:36:56 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:36:56 +0000 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061030143655.GA17524@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <1162210732.10730.5.camel@edgy> <20061030132456.70994.qmail@web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061030132456.70994.qmail@web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.093 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.283, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069, TW_GT=0.077, TW_YG=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -1.093 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] use gtk.gdk.threads_init() as gtk.threads_init() is now deprecated X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:37:02 -0000 On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 01:24:56PM +0000, chris procter wrote: > > Both this and the About dialog patch fix issues that > occur in Edgy which but not in Dapper (due to changes > between pygtk 2.8 and 2.10 iirc) so they need to be > tested under Dapper, to ensure they dont break stuff. > The about dialog patch is just fine in Dapper. -- John Green From jonobacon@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 09:40:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5742E3B016D for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:40:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30835-03 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:40:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296303B0222 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:40:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1147173ugb for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:40:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.171.13 with SMTP id t13mr4911611hue; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:40:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:40:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610300640k586ae2ffr40e0796781d8c157@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:40:38 +0000 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "Adam Reid" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1162213459.20978.8.camel@localhost> <4545FE89.1000703@gmail.com> <20061030135136.GD20291@mikeasoft.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.213 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.187, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.213 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher development list Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] bad patch? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:40:47 -0000 On 10/30/06, Adam Reid wrote: > Yep, > > Sorry about that, I'm still learning. It was just local stuff that > caused the problems. No worries! We are all learning. :) Jono From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 09:54:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7351E3B01BC for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:54:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31519-01 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:54:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457D03B0329 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:54:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2323365nfa for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:54:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.124.10 with SMTP id w10mr498397buc; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:54:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.115.13 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:54:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610300654h4f7a3107w25e2d269c2e5a7c6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:54:21 +0000 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Laszlo Pandy" In-Reply-To: <4546016C.7080303@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061030132456.70994.qmail@web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4546016C.7080303@gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9ed54586b1fc8108 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.324 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.076, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.324 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher development list , chris procter Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] use gtk.gdk.threads_init() as gtk.threads_init() is now deprecated X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:54:28 -0000 > IIRC threads init allows you to use python threads in the gobject > system. Since we don't actually use python threads anymore, I don't > think we even need this, so I've removed it in SVN. I need them in the freesound plugin, but that does its own threads_init(). sil -- In 1988 there was the war, and after that there were no more roses. Not for anybody. -- "V For Vendetta", Alan Moore From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 10:26:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C69363B007D for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:26:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00704-03 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:26:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6563B0078 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:25:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2331542nfa for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:25:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.20.15 with SMTP id x15mr5849974nfi; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:25:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:25:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 17:25:56 +0200 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: "Jokosher Devel List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.491 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.950, BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.491 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] 02 banner - a bit early! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:26:05 -0000 I made a small web banner for 0.2 release, a bit early, I know, but I just felt like it :) http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-banner-01.png -- Panos Laganakos From davmor2@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 10:29:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7ABE3B0078 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:29:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00736-10 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:29:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2323B3B00A1 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:28:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1161558ugb for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:28:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.93.7 with SMTP id v7mr4329049ugl; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:28:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:28:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610300728l2430c786kefc195266fc50e47@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:28:53 +0000 From: "David Morley" To: "Panos Laganakos" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.541 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.541 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Devel List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] 02 banner - a bit early! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:29:04 -0000 On 30/10/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > I made a small web banner for 0.2 release, a bit early, I know, but I > just felt like it :) > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-banner-01.png > Nice! -- Seek That Thy Might Know From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 10:42:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F993B0314 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:42:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02554-02 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:42:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB453B0389 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:42:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2335740nfa for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:42:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.118.2 with SMTP id q2mr592827buc; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:41:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.115.13 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:41:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610300741o7ce26f41t7db36c18462a17d6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:41:59 +0000 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Panos Laganakos" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2f64b19248d95eeb X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.326 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.074, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.326 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Devel List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] 02 banner - a bit early! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:42:44 -0000 On 10/30/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: >http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-banner-01.png Quality. :) We need to decide which free software musician gets to be in this release, too ;) sil -- what's the point in embedding emacs anyway? it's like embedding rocket ship into toyota camry From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 11:05:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245B23B01EE for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:05:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04936-01 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:05:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37353B00A1 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:05:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2341990nfa for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:05:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.230.18 with SMTP id c18mr5865040nfh; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:05:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:05:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 18:05:26 +0200 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: "Jokosher Devel List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.195 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-1.209, BAYES_40=-0.185, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.195 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher Powered By icon X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:05:42 -0000 Enjoy: http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-01.png -- Panos Laganakos From jonobacon@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 11:14:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7AC3B028B for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:14:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05963-02 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:14:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833743B034E for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:14:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 67so276802wri for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:14:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.201.2 with SMTP id y2mr5108178huf; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:14:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610300814w1171e37dkd6a148b2b2c3536d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:14:33 +0000 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "Panos Laganakos" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.693 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.782, BAYES_05=-1.11, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.693 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Devel List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher Powered By icon X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:14:43 -0000 On 10/30/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > Enjoy: > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-01.png Looks great, but could you use the "Audio Production Made Simple" strapline instead. :) Panos - your work is awesome. :) Jono From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 11:15:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536653B0158 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:15:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05988-03 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:15:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F693B022A for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:15:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2344463nfa for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:15:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.10.3 with SMTP id n3mr5930369nfi; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:15:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:15:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 18:15:03 +0200 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: "Jokosher Devel List" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.171 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-1.185, BAYES_40=-0.185, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.171 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher Powered By icon X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:15:08 -0000 And for our death/black metalheads and the rest of black souls: http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-02.png On 10/30/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > Enjoy: > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-01.png > > -- > Panos Laganakos > -- Panos Laganakos From cathalobrien@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 11:28:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4D43B0331 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:28:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07400-03 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:28:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB2AD3B0188 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:28:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so1162546nzf for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:28:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.21.1 with SMTP id y1mr5234724pyi; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:28:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.45.7 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:28:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2a7a70a10610300828x38c5a67qf1098b9a2615569@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:28:19 +0000 From: "Cathal O'Brien" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_22108_18439543.1162225699025" References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.406 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.406 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher Powered By icon X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:28:26 -0000 ------=_Part_22108_18439543.1162225699025 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Brilliant stuff, laughed my ass off at the metal logo :-) -- Cathal O'Brien On 30/10/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > > And for our death/black metalheads and the rest of black souls: > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-02.png > > > On 10/30/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > > Enjoy: > > > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-01.png > > > > -- > > Panos Laganakos > > > > > -- > Panos Laganakos > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > ------=_Part_22108_18439543.1162225699025 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Brilliant stuff, laughed my ass off at the metal logo :-)


--
Cathal O'Brien

On 30/10/06, Panos Laganakos < panos.laganakos@gmail.com> wrote:
And for our death/black metalheads and the rest of black souls:

http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-02.png


On 10/30/06, Panos Laganakos <panos.laganakos@gmail.com > wrote:
> Enjoy:
>
> http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-01.png
>
> --
> Panos Laganakos
>


--
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------=_Part_22108_18439543.1162225699025-- From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 12:11:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904993B0012 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:11:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11715-05 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:11:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8BA3B00CE for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:11:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2360518nfa for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:11:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.254.10 with SMTP id b10mr3098145nfi; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:11:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:11:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 19:11:19 +0200 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: "Cathal O'Brien" In-Reply-To: <2a7a70a10610300828x38c5a67qf1098b9a2615569@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2a7a70a10610300828x38c5a67qf1098b9a2615569@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.355 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.045, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.355 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher Powered By icon X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 17:11:26 -0000 I'm glad you like 'em guys. Here's one with the official motto: http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-03.png Now let's spread them around the web :) On 10/30/06, Cathal O'Brien wrote: > Brilliant stuff, laughed my ass off at the metal logo :-) > > > -- > Cathal O'Brien > > > On 30/10/06, Panos Laganakos < panos.laganakos@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > And for our death/black metalheads and the rest of black souls: > > > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-02.png > > > > > > On 10/30/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > > > Enjoy: > > > > > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-01.png > > > > > > -- > > > Panos Laganakos > > > > > > > > > -- > > Panos Laganakos > > _______________________________________________ > > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > > > -- Panos Laganakos From ensonic@hora-obscura.de Mon Oct 30 14:48:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC0F3B0099 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:48:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24994-09 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:48:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp4.pp.htv.fi (smtp4.pp.htv.fi [213.243.153.38]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1A03B00C5 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:48:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.133] (cs181069046.pp.htv.fi [82.181.69.46]) by smtp4.pp.htv.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4D25BC0E5; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:48:36 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <45465714.8070502@hora-obscura.de> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:48:36 +0200 From: Stefan Kost User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20060911 SUSE/1.0.5-1.1 SeaMonkey/1.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Kelly References: <1162212974.11859.5.camel@edgy> In-Reply-To: <1162212974.11859.5.camel@edgy> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.449 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.449 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher development list Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] recent project menu items now have tooltips that contain a label showing the user where their recent projects are stored. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 19:48:43 -0000 Hi, John Kelly wrote: > Hello everyone, > > The recent project menu items now have tooltips. The tooltips contain a label of where the user's projects are stored. > > Regards, > John > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Index: JokosherApp.py > =================================================================== > --- JokosherApp.py (revision 855) > +++ JokosherApp.py (working copy) > @@ -721,6 +721,8 @@ > if self.recentprojectitems: > for item in self.recentprojectitems: > mitem = gtk.MenuItem(item[1]) > + tooltips = gtk.Tooltips() > + tooltips.set_tip(mitem, item[0], None) > self.recentprojectsmenu.append(mitem) > mitem.connect("activate", self.OnRecentProjectsItem, item[0], item[1]) > > You can share the Tooltips object. Just move tooltips = gtk.Tooltips() out of the loop. Stefan From kelly_worth2003@yahoo.co.uk Mon Oct 30 16:39:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02FE43B01BA for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:39:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31811-04 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:39:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.79]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A5C533B0017 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:39:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 71877 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2006 21:39:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.100.55?) (kelly?worth2003@81.156.35.228 with plain) by smtp010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2006 21:39:04 -0000 From: John Kelly To: Jokosher development list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-bdkpslRHLAzchsz/WTh7" Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:39:01 +0000 Message-Id: <1162244341.27352.11.camel@edgy> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS=0.291] X-Spam-Score: -0.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] recent project menu items tooltips, about dialog close button X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:39:11 -0000 --=-bdkpslRHLAzchsz/WTh7 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone, Two very minor changes. John Green tested out the about dialog patch and reported no problems with it. The recent project menu items now have tooltips containing a label on where the project is stored. John. --=-bdkpslRHLAzchsz/WTh7 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=changes.diff Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=changes.diff; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: JokosherApp.py =================================================================== --- JokosherApp.py (revision 856) +++ JokosherApp.py (working copy) @@ -265,6 +265,8 @@ dlg = aboutTree.get_widget("AboutDialog") dlg.set_transient_for(self.window) dlg.set_icon(self.icon) + dlg.run() + dlg.destroy() #_____________________________________________________________________ @@ -717,10 +719,12 @@ menuitems = self.recentprojectsmenu.get_children() for c in menuitems: self.recentprojectsmenu.remove(c) - + + tooltips = gtk.Tooltips() if self.recentprojectitems: for item in self.recentprojectitems: mitem = gtk.MenuItem(item[1]) + tooltips.set_tip(mitem, item[0], None) self.recentprojectsmenu.append(mitem) mitem.connect("activate", self.OnRecentProjectsItem, item[0], item[1]) --=-bdkpslRHLAzchsz/WTh7-- Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 17:44:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44883B0370 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 17:44:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05984-10 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 17:44:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14FB3B01BA for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 17:44:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so51595nfa for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:44:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.92.18 with SMTP id u18mr292237nfl.1162248241006; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:44:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:44:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 00:44:00 +0200 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: "Cathal O'Brien" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2a7a70a10610300828x38c5a67qf1098b9a2615569@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.356 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.044, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.356 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher Powered By icon X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 22:44:05 -0000 Made two more and I put em up here so you can view them all: http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher.html Enjoy! On 10/30/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > I'm glad you like 'em guys. > > Here's one with the official motto: > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-03.png > > Now let's spread them around the web :) > > > On 10/30/06, Cathal O'Brien wrote: > > Brilliant stuff, laughed my ass off at the metal logo :-) > > > > > > -- > > Cathal O'Brien > > > > > > On 30/10/06, Panos Laganakos < panos.laganakos@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > And for our death/black metalheads and the rest of black souls: > > > > > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-02.png > > > > > > > > > On 10/30/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > > > > Enjoy: > > > > > > > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-01.png > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Panos Laganakos > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Panos Laganakos > > > _______________________________________________ > > > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > > > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > > > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > > > > > > > > > -- > Panos Laganakos > -- Panos Laganakos From phoscy@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 22:40:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2182A3B00E2 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 22:40:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19777-06 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 22:40:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EEA13B00A5 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 22:40:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1351454ugb for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 19:40:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.117.2 with SMTP id u2mr5364181ugm; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 19:40:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.104? ( [213.65.146.245]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i39sm4295512ugd.2006.10.30.19.40.33; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 19:40:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4546C5BF.4060501@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 04:40:47 +0100 From: trin / oscar User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <2a7a70a10610300828x38c5a67qf1098b9a2615569@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000008060909090503020305" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.296 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-1.104, BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY=0.214, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.296 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher Powered By icon X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:40:37 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000008060909090503020305 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Panos Laganakos wrote: > Made two more and I put em up here so you can view them all: > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher.html > > Enjoy! > > > On 10/30/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > >> I'm glad you like 'em guys. >> >> Here's one with the official motto: >> >> http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-03.png >> >> Now let's spread them around the web :) >> >> >> On 10/30/06, Cathal O'Brien wrote: >> >>> Brilliant stuff, laughed my ass off at the metal logo :-) >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cathal O'Brien >>> >>> >>> On 30/10/06, Panos Laganakos < panos.laganakos@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> And for our death/black metalheads and the rest of black souls: >>>> >>>> http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-02.png >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10/30/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: >>>> >>>>> Enjoy: >>>>> >>>>> http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-01.png >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Panos Laganakos >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Panos Laganakos >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> jokosher-devel-list mailing list >>>> jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org >>>> >>>> >>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> jokosher-devel-list mailing list >>> jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org >>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Panos Laganakos >> >> > > > Real nice! good work! i made this one a while ago, but i kinda gave it up since i didn't have anything to write more than jokosher on it; http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/trinimagedump/banner.png . //Oscar Carlstedt - trin --------------000008060909090503020305 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Panos Laganakos wrote: 
Made two more and I put em up here so you can view them all:

http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher.html

Enjoy!


On 10/30/06, Panos Laganakos <panos.laganakos@gmail.com> wrote:
  
I'm glad you like 'em guys.

Here's one with the official motto:

http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-03.png

Now let's spread them around the web :)


On 10/30/06, Cathal O'Brien <cathalobrien@gmail.com> wrote:
    
Brilliant stuff, laughed my ass off at the metal logo :-)


--
Cathal O'Brien


On 30/10/06, Panos Laganakos < panos.laganakos@gmail.com> wrote:
      
And for our death/black metalheads and the rest of black souls:

http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-02.png


On 10/30/06, Panos Laganakos <panos.laganakos@gmail.com > wrote:
        
Enjoy:

http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-01.png

--
Panos Laganakos

          
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Real nice! good work!
i made this one a while ago, but i kinda gave it up since i didn't have anything to write more than jokosher on it; http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/trinimagedump/banner.png .

//Oscar Carlstedt - trin
--------------000008060909090503020305-- From jonobacon@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 03:56:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30633B0075 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:56:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32620-03 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:56:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03353B0017 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:56:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1394382ugb for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 00:56:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.200.3 with SMTP id x3mr6444752huf; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 00:56:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 00:56:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610310056t52e4fecj32c7dbdfee689a7e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:56:51 +0000 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "Jokosher Devel List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.216 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.184, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.216 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Art for 0.2 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:56:54 -0000 Hi all, Right, we are heading towards 0.2, and there are a number of bits of art that we really need sorting out. The sooner these are done, the sooner the screenshots can be done for the website, docs and suchlike. Could the art team take a look at http://jokosher.python-hosting.com/wiki/ArtTeam and work on the items in the Essential list. I would like to get all of that art in J if possible. Otherwise, I will need to make the icons, and that will suck like you have not experienced. Jono From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 06:56:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6F413B00C8 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:56:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14841-08 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:56:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C313B008F for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:56:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so261212nfa for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:56:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.210.20 with SMTP id i20mr154605nfg.1162295792656; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:56:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:56:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:56:32 +0200 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: jono@jonobacon.org In-Reply-To: <1c3fe48e0610310056t52e4fecj32c7dbdfee689a7e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1c3fe48e0610310056t52e4fecj32c7dbdfee689a7e@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.357 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.043, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.357 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Devel List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Art for 0.2 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:56:39 -0000 http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher.html I made an extension and extension-manager icons, check em out. On 10/31/06, Jono Bacon wrote: > Hi all, > > Right, we are heading towards 0.2, and there are a number of bits of > art that we really need sorting out. The sooner these are done, the > sooner the screenshots can be done for the website, docs and suchlike. > > Could the art team take a look at > http://jokosher.python-hosting.com/wiki/ArtTeam and work on the items > in the Essential list. I would like to get all of that art in J if > possible. Otherwise, I will need to make the icons, and that will suck > like you have not experienced. > > Jono > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > -- Panos Laganakos From pecisk@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 07:15:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDB33B0434 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:15:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16136-09 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:15:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E793B0430 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:14:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1430835ugb for ; 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Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:22:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16563-09 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:22:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B5A3B0073 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:22:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so1389984nzf for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 04:22:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.219.17 with SMTP id w17mr4343974qbq; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 04:22:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e13sm4151861qbe.2006.10.31.04.22.47; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 04:22:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45474054.4080803@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:23:48 -0500 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Panos Laganakos References: <1c3fe48e0610310056t52e4fecj32c7dbdfee689a7e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Devel List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Art for 0.2 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 12:22:55 -0000 Panos Laganakos wrote: > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher.html > > I made an extension and extension-manager icons, check em out. > Very nice! I really like these icons, but can one of the Art guys who knows more than me make sure they fit in with the Tango guidelines and the rest of our custom icons? The first one (just the puzzle piece) is awesome, but I wonder whether the second one will scale as scale as well. Maybe the little pieces taken out of it could be bigger? Laszlo From sinisterguy@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 08:04:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA0573B00B0 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:04:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19037-10 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:04:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5AB3B007E for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:04:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so1399953nzf for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.127.7 with SMTP id e7mr6660100pyn; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.131.15 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:04:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:04:25 -0500 From: Lukas To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Extension Preferences... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:04:30 -0000 Hey guys, I should have a bit of time to hack tonight just before the feature/string freeze, so I'm planning on implementing extension preferences. The way i have it thought out right now is that we execute a preferences() function in the extension or something and the extension handles everything else from there. Also, for preferences files, i think we should have a ./jokosher/extensions/config directory to store everything in. What do you guys think. Should I just do that (execute preferences()) or should Jokosher handle more? -- God Bless, Luke From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 08:09:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C41623B00B0 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:09:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19376-03 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:09:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D9A3B008F for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:09:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so280509nfa for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:09:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.98.13 with SMTP id v13mr1037177bub; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:09:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.115.13 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:09:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610310509s2d4295ao5cbaa354e63839c6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:09:32 +0000 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: Lukas , "Jokosher Devel List" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: bed4d3d60c812774 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.328 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.072, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.328 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Extension Preferences... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:09:39 -0000 > I should have a bit of time to hack tonight just before the > feature/string freeze, so I'm planning on implementing extension > preferences. Extensions already have preferences. See API.get_config_value and API.set_config_value. The Freesound extension uses them. I appreciate that this is not yet documented :) sil -- "Willow hath gat hare off rede And doth geev soopurb heede. Buffy, as written by Geoffrey Chaucer, the dirty mediaeval git." -- Andy Spencer, after Certic From laszlok2@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 08:10:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D953B0071 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:10:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19274-08 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:10:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.203]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57883B00B0 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:10:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so1401507nzf for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:10:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.154.4 with SMTP id g4mr6740213qbo; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:10:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e11sm849946qbc.2006.10.31.05.10.26; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:10:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45474B80.4070401@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:11:28 -0500 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lukas References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Extension Preferences... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:10:34 -0000 Lukas wrote: > Hey guys, > > I should have a bit of time to hack tonight just before the > feature/string freeze, so I'm planning on implementing extension > preferences. The way i have it thought out right now is that we > execute a preferences() function in the extension or something and the > extension handles everything else from there. Also, for preferences > files, i think we should have a ./jokosher/extensions/config directory > to store everything in. What do you guys think. Should I just do that > (execute preferences()) or should Jokosher handle more? > This is exactly what I was thinking. Just call connfig() or prefs() or something and have the extension handle the rest. There is already a function in the API for saving and loading key/value pairs and I think this used ~/.jokosher/extensions/config or something. Laszlo From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 08:32:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985F13B0071 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:32:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20822-01 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:32:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B303B008F for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:32:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so286838nfa for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:32:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.118.2 with SMTP id q2mr1042156buc; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:32:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.115.13 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:32:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610310532r5d221a21jbfc8c1638a351a6f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:32:28 +0000 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Laszlo Pandy" In-Reply-To: <45474B80.4070401@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45474B80.4070401@gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6ac376b7e5d69443 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.585 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.674, BAYES_05=-1.11, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.585 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, Lukas Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Extension Preferences... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:32:35 -0000 > This is exactly what I was thinking. Just call connfig() or prefs() or > something and have the extension handle the rest. There is already a > function in the API for saving and loading key/value pairs and I think > this used ~/.jokosher/extensions/config or something. Yep. On loading an extension, check whether it has a preferences() method. If it doesn't, then grey out the Preferences button in the Extension Manager when that extension is highlighted (or otherwise disable however you were going to make prefs available). If it does, then just call thisextension.preferences(). If the extension wants to create a Gtk window to ask for preferences then it is welcome to do so. That's what Freesound does (sort of). sil -- A man, a plan, a canoe, pasta, heros, rajahs, a coloratura, maps, snipe, percale, macaroni, a gag, a banana bag, a tan, a tag, a banana bag again (or a camel), a crepe, pins, Spam, a rut, a Rolo, cash, a jar, sore hats, a peon, a canal -- Panama! From tim.sheridan@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 08:54:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB033B0469 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:54:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22150-08 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:54:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.200]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC9E3B0441 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:53:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so1411932nzf for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:53:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.233.16 with SMTP id k16mr6801835qbr; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:52:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.126.13 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:52:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <359919d10610310552l44e1d02eseb9ec03a16f18120@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:52:58 +0000 From: "Tim Sheridan" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Initiation script naming X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:54:09 -0000 Hey guys, Could the file name of the Jokosher initiation script be changed from 'jokosher' to something else (perhaps 'jokosher.run'?) that will allow it to coexist with the 'Jokosher' directory when stored on a non-case-sensitive file system; I'd like to be able to carry round a copy of the SVN tree on my USB flash drive (VFAT formatted), but presently I'm unable to do so. Cheers, Tim S. From pecisk@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 09:04:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2CB83B0181 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:04:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23651-05 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:04:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76CB73B00B0 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:04:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1461788ugb for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:04:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.21.11 with SMTP id y11mr6145566ugi; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:04:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.27.5 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:04:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:04:37 +0200 From: "Peteris Krisjanis" To: "Tim Sheridan" In-Reply-To: <359919d10610310552l44e1d02eseb9ec03a16f18120@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-13; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline References: <359919d10610310552l44e1d02eseb9ec03a16f18120@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.176 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, MIME_BASE64_NO_NAME=0.224, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.176 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Initiation script naming X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:04:43 -0000 SU1ITywgam9rb3NoZXIgd2l0aCBzbWFsbCBsZXR0ZXJzIHdvdWxkIGJlIGZpbmUsIHRvIGNvbXBs eSBVbml4IGJpbmFyeQpuYW1pbmcgc3R5bGUgOikKClAuCgoyMDA2LzEwLzMxLCBUaW0gU2hlcmlk YW4gPHRpbS5zaGVyaWRhbkBnbWFpbC5jb20+Ogo+IEhleSBndXlzLAo+Cj4gQ291bGQgdGhlIGZp bGUgbmFtZSBvZiB0aGUgSm9rb3NoZXIgaW5pdGlhdGlvbiBzY3JpcHQgYmUgY2hhbmdlZCBmcm9t Cj4gJ2pva29zaGVyJyB0byBzb21ldGhpbmcgZWxzZSAocGVyaGFwcyAnam9rb3NoZXIucnVuJz8p IHRoYXQgd2lsbCBhbGxvdwo+IGl0IHRvIGNvZXhpc3Qgd2l0aCB0aGUgJ0pva29zaGVyJyBkaXJl Y3Rvcnkgd2hlbiBzdG9yZWQgb24gYQo+IG5vbi1jYXNlLXNlbnNpdGl2ZSBmaWxlIHN5c3RlbTsg SSdkIGxpa2UgdG8gYmUgYWJsZSB0byBjYXJyeSByb3VuZCBhCj4gY29weSBvZiB0aGUgU1ZOIHRy ZWUgb24gbXkgVVNCIGZsYXNoIGRyaXZlIChWRkFUIGZvcm1hdHRlZCksIGJ1dAo+IHByZXNlbnRs eSBJJ20gdW5hYmxlIHRvIGRvIHNvLgo+Cj4gQ2hlZXJzLAo+IFRpbSBTLgo+IF9fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCj4gam9rb3NoZXItZGV2ZWwtbGlz dCBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QKPiBqb2tvc2hlci1kZXZlbC1saXN0QGdub21lLm9yZwo+IGh0dHA6Ly9t YWlsLmdub21lLm9yZy9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZvL2pva29zaGVyLWRldmVsLWxpc3QKPgoKCi0t IAptb3J0aWdpIHRlbXBvClDndGVyaXMgS3Jp8GribmlzCg== From john@thegreens.co.uk Tue Oct 31 09:18:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8083B00AB for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:18:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24344-03 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:18:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.199]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9CCF43B006A for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:18:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 95915 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2006 14:18:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Oct 2006 14:18:39 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 55DEE79018; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:18:39 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:18:39 +0000 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061031141839.GA23575@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <359919d10610310552l44e1d02eseb9ec03a16f18120@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.027 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.857, BAYES_40=-0.185, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: 0.027 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Initiation script naming X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:18:45 -0000 On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 04:04:37PM +0200, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: > IMHO, jokosher with small letters would be fine, to comply Unix binary > naming style :) > The point made is that this makes it impossible to carry round on a flash keyring or similar as they are all FAT and stupid so the script name clashes with the directory in this case. I don't know if anyone ever thought of that. We want the script to be jokosher but we also want the python package to be Jokosher. I don't really know what to say. -- John Green From nisses.mail@home.se Tue Oct 31 09:37:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F623B00E3 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:37:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25964-07 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:37:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from av9-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av9-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800163B008E for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:37:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by av9-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 8D4DC382B3; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:37:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.93]) by av9-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3753822A; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:37:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.130] (h151n2fls33o839.telia.com [217.211.214.151]) by smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2391537E47; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:37:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45475F91.7060700@home.se> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:37:05 +0100 From: Andreas Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060918) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <1c3fe48e0610310056t52e4fecj32c7dbdfee689a7e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1c3fe48e0610310056t52e4fecj32c7dbdfee689a7e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.469 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.729, BAYES_20=-0.74] X-Spam-Score: -1.469 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jono@jonobacon.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Art for 0.2 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:37:15 -0000 Jono Bacon wrote: > Hi all, > > Right, we are heading towards 0.2, and there are a number of bits of > art that we really need sorting out. The sooner these are done, the > sooner the screenshots can be done for the website, docs and suchlike. > > Could the art team take a look at > http://jokosher.python-hosting.com/wiki/ArtTeam and work on the items > in the Essential list. I would like to get all of that art in J if > possible. Otherwise, I will need to make the icons, and that will suck > like you have not experienced. > > Jono > > Ok, started working on the metronome, will be finished in a hour or so. I'll try to nail down as many as possible on the list, but I can't do it alone! I totally need help from the artist dudes. Lurking no more! Oscar? - Andreas From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 10:20:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FBF93B0171 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:20:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28205-03 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:20:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD02C3B006A for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:19:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so315383nfa for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:19:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.90.4 with SMTP id s4mr1612682nfl.1162307998553; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:19:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:19:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:19:58 +0200 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: "Andreas Nilsson" In-Reply-To: <45475F91.7060700@home.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1c3fe48e0610310056t52e4fecj32c7dbdfee689a7e@mail.gmail.com> <45475F91.7060700@home.se> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.358 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.042, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.358 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, jono@jonobacon.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Art for 0.2 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:20:05 -0000 Updated the extension-manager icon, should look much better on smaller sizes now. http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher/ On 10/31/06, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > Jono Bacon wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Right, we are heading towards 0.2, and there are a number of bits of > > art that we really need sorting out. The sooner these are done, the > > sooner the screenshots can be done for the website, docs and suchlike. > > > > Could the art team take a look at > > http://jokosher.python-hosting.com/wiki/ArtTeam and work on the items > > in the Essential list. I would like to get all of that art in J if > > possible. Otherwise, I will need to make the icons, and that will suck > > like you have not experienced. > > > > Jono > > > > > Ok, started working on the metronome, will be finished in a hour or so. > I'll try to nail down as many as possible on the list, but I can't do it > alone! > I totally need help from the artist dudes. Lurking no more! > Oscar? > - Andreas > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > -- Panos Laganakos From nisses.mail@home.se Tue Oct 31 10:33:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA1E3B007B for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:33:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28966-10 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:33:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.183]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057293B00AB for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:33:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id E5AA638026; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:33:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.102]) by av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4ED537F38; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:33:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.130] (h151n2fls33o839.telia.com [217.211.214.151]) by smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB2037E43; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:33:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45476CB5.2010908@home.se> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:33:09 +0100 From: Andreas Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060918) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <1c3fe48e0610310056t52e4fecj32c7dbdfee689a7e@mail.gmail.com> <45475F91.7060700@home.se> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.384 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.215, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.384 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Panos Laganakos Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Art for 0.2 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:33:17 -0000 Panos Laganakos wrote: > Updated the extension-manager icon, should look much better on smaller > sizes now. > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher/ > Looks great! Let's use this! - Andreas > > On 10/31/06, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > >> Jono Bacon wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Right, we are heading towards 0.2, and there are a number of bits of >>> art that we really need sorting out. The sooner these are done, the >>> sooner the screenshots can be done for the website, docs and suchlike. >>> >>> Could the art team take a look at >>> http://jokosher.python-hosting.com/wiki/ArtTeam and work on the items >>> in the Essential list. I would like to get all of that art in J if >>> possible. Otherwise, I will need to make the icons, and that will suck >>> like you have not experienced. >>> >>> Jono >>> >>> >>> >> Ok, started working on the metronome, will be finished in a hour or so. >> I'll try to nail down as many as possible on the list, but I can't do it >> alone! >> I totally need help from the artist dudes. Lurking no more! >> Oscar? >> - Andreas >> >> > > From atomic0x@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 13:22:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C74B93B03F2 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:22:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12757-06 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:22:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.199]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FEA63B008E for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:22:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so1477628nzf for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:22:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.41.14 with SMTP id t14mr1145606pyj; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:22:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.134.18 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:22:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:22:36 -0500 From: "Adam Reid" To: "Jokosher development list" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_13001_7891149.1162318956965" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] More tooltips X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 18:22:43 -0000 ------=_Part_13001_7891149.1162318956965 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Here's some more tooltips for panning and zoom sliders, context sensitive workspace buttons. 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from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1203B0190 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:14:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22777-09 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:14:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.142]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 950903B0004 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:14:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28297 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2006 20:14:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Oct 2006 20:14:17 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 361FA79018; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:14:17 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:14:12 +0000 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061031201411.GA31208@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.149 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.921, BAYES_50=0.001, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: 0.149 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Bug ticket spam X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:14:25 -0000 Anonymous posting of tickets was re-enabled last night and already there's been spam appearing. Are there any filters available for TRAC at all? It strikes me that there's probably no case for a link in a bug report. Is it possible to filter out posts that contain links? That's the only point of wiki spam after all; to post links. -- John Green From atomic0x@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 15:44:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097A43B0278 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:44:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24382-08 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:44:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.203]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3E93B0170 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:44:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so1511026nzf for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 12:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.109.2 with SMTP id l2mr7348528pym; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 12:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.134.18 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 12:44:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:44:03 -0500 From: "Adam Reid" To: "Jokosher development list" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] More tooltips X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:44:06 -0000 Forgot to mention. Patched against rev 865 On 10/31/06, Adam Reid wrote: > Here's some more tooltips for panning and zoom sliders, context > sensitive workspace buttons. I also fixed the context sensitivity for > the click track button > > > From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 17:01:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4FBC3B0092 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:01:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30357-02 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:01:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A70A3B0004 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:01:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so429825nfa for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:01:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.107.15 with SMTP id f15mr1292797buc; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:01:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.115.13 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:01:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610311401m70ea0102x78969782dbd7317a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 22:01:36 +0000 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20061031201411.GA31208@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061031201411.GA31208@localhost.localdomain> X-Google-Sender-Auth: d7c652922362b2b1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.315 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.085, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.315 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Bug ticket spam X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 22:01:41 -0000 On 10/31/06, John Green wrote: > Anonymous posting of tickets was re-enabled last night and already there's > been spam appearing. Are there any filters available for TRAC at all? It > strikes me that there's probably no case for a link in a bug report. Is it > possible to filter out posts that contain links? That's the only point of > wiki spam after all; to post links. Already? God almighty. There are trac plugins, but we can't install any on python-hosting.com. sil -- "Out of the frying pan and into the very same, identical frying-pan. Smegging great." -- Lister, "Last Human" From snecklifter@gmail.com Sun Oct 1 15:00:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45F93B008B for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2006 15:00:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23187-10 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2006 15:00:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4147F3B007C for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2006 15:00:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1362803nfa for ; Sun, 01 Oct 2006 12:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.41.12 with SMTP id t12mr3918262nfj; Sun, 01 Oct 2006 12:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.14.7 with HTTP; Sun, 1 Oct 2006 12:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <364d303b0610011200t68ea935cve1efc2af3d4dec96@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 20:00:56 +0100 From: "Chris Brown" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <451EDC18.70303@silverorange.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_23919_18950597.1159729256439" References: <451EDC18.70303@silverorange.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.88 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.145, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_30_40=0.374, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.88 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher on FC6 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:00:58 -0000 ------=_Part_23919_18950597.1159729256439 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 30/09/06, Steven Garrity wrote: > > With the release of Fedora Core 6 in a couple of weeks, I was wondering > if anyone know how easy/hard it might be to install Jokosher on FC6. > > Is everything up-to-date enough that it will not require CVS versions of > any required packages (gstreamer, etc.)? Yes is the simple answer. I have got an awful lot going on here all of a sudden so I have had very little time to try and get it accepted as a Fedora Extra package and several stumbling blocks have caused me to defer trying to get it in until 0.2 comes out. If you or anyone else would like to have a go though they are more than welcome. Regards Chris ------=_Part_23919_18950597.1159729256439 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

On 30/09/06, Steven Garrity <stevelist@silverorange.com> wrote:
With the release of Fedora Core 6 in a couple of weeks, I was wondering
if anyone know how easy/hard it might be to install Jokosher on FC6.

Is everything up-to-date enough that it will not require CVS versions of
any required packages (gstreamer, etc.)?

Yes is the simple answer. I have got an awful lot going on here all of a sudden so I have had very little time to try and get it accepted as a Fedora Extra package and several stumbling blocks have caused me to defer trying to get it in until 0.2 comes out. If you or anyone else would like to have a go though they are more than welcome.

Regards
Chris


------=_Part_23919_18950597.1159729256439-- From jefrat@gmail.com Mon Oct 2 09:48:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E87D3B0104 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 09:48:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10531-06 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 09:48:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6877D3B0085 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 09:48:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so486498ugb for ; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 06:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.123.5 with SMTP id v5mr1371903huc; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 06:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.136.13 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 06:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <29d55b2b0610020648pf7aadcfj6d89e684132893a6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 09:48:15 -0400 From: "Jeff Ratliff" To: "Jokosher gnome" In-Reply-To: <1159277890.5479.4.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <364d303b0609260423n31d4c921p323907edd1337d2a@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0609260440j70e18792o6cd33bcfc2904558@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0609260441y27c4ff3ak60f88ef2c3c66397@mail.gmail.com> <1159275302.4995.3.camel@localhost> <364d303b0609260606l5f7534e3of835edae5a99399e@mail.gmail.com> <1159277890.5479.4.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Moving icons X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:48:17 -0000 On 26/09/06, Daniel Holbach wrote: > Hello Chris, > > Am Dienstag, den 26.09.2006, 14:06 +0100 schrieb Chris Brown: > > I imagine its still there. This is for fedora however. My concerns > > (which I expressed in reply to that original mail) were that I could > > not see a way in which uninstallation was catered for. I'm also a > > little hesitant (perhaps unecessarily) at running a setup script as > > root without knowing exactly what the whole thing does. Its looks fine > > but will need to be maintained and I dont think its the right method > > for installing an app as essentially its defining a new method of > > software installation, no? > > the process of building the package in Ubuntu/Debian and maybe even in > the .rpm world makes use of the setup.py (to install files into the > package). You're right, the package manager (dpkg for Debian/Ubuntu) and > rpm do take care of the de-installation. > This is how it's supposed to work with RPMs as well. rpmbuild should either 'make && make install' or run a setup script. Custom installing everything file by file in the spec file is a last resort. That approach means doing it separately for each distro (which is something I thought we were trying to avoid). Using the setup script in the spec file do the install will make it trivial to 'rpmbuild --rebuild' on any RPM based distro. It also means the spec file doesn't have to be rewritten every time an important file changes places. -- Jeff Ratliff (Gomer_X) From parumi@iua.upf.edu Mon Oct 2 10:12:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9C53B020D for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:12:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12179-08 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:12:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iua-mail.upf.es (iua-mail.upf.es [193.145.55.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE1F3B01DB for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:12:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.55.0.66] (helo=[10.55.0.66]) by iua-mail.upf.es with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GUOWw-0002K6-00; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:12:26 +0200 Message-ID: <45211E88.6080505@iua.upf.edu> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:13:28 +0200 From: Pau Arumi User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060918) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Laszlo Pandy References: <451EAF9F.8010409@iua.upf.edu> <451EBEB9.9050609@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <451EBEB9.9050609@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IUA-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-IUA-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-IUA-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=-4.399, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-IUA-MailScanner-From: parumi@iua.upf.edu X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.561 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.038, BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_SV=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.561 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] trying to set up jokosher X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:12:50 -0000 En/na Laszlo Pandy ha escrit: > Pau Arumi wrote: > >> hi, >> i've just make my first attempt to run the svn version of jokosher but >> not very successfully... >> (...) > I talked to Pau on IRC about this. It seems he has only built the > gstreamer module and not the other required ones. The problem should be > fixed now. > I just wanted to confirm that I've been able to complete the set up process :-) This is the only difficulty I've found: In the wiki "InstallingCvsGstreamer" you can read "Now, repeat the steps [./autogen.sh and make] for the other modules in any order." I've noted that not every order is good, since you can find errors of .pc files not found. This is the order that worked well for me is: 1. gstreamer 2. gst-plugins-base 3. gst-plugins-good 4. gst-plugins-ugly 5. gnonlin Cheers! Pau -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From john@thegreens.co.uk Mon Oct 2 14:34:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9BA43B002A for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:34:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26461-01 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:34:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.139]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F3D2B3B000B for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1616 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2006 18:34:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Oct 2006 18:34:40 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.22] (unknown [192.168.1.22]) by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6727677DA0 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:34:38 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:33:46 +0100 From: John Green User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jokosher dev-list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.158 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.372, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.158 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Managing extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 18:34:42 -0000 I've started to look into the 'Manage Extensions' option in the extensions menu and have a few questions on how extensions will be deployed/installed. At the minute all the extensions we have are in a single directory. Some of them consist of more than one file (typically a .py and a .glade for instance). Some are a single .py. Freesound search has more than one .py file. When jokosher loads the extensions it retrieves a list of all .py files and executes the startup() function (if one exists). If we allow extensions to span multiple .py files then this causes a couple of problems. Firstly only one file will contain the startup function and jokosher needs a method of determining which it is. Secondly as we add more and more extensions with multiple files then eventually there will be a clash of names. Perhaps we need to organise each extension within its own subdirectory. Or we could just compel extensions to be contained within a single module but this seems a bit restrictive to me. How will the extensions be packaged? A simple extension consisting of a single .py file is one thing but how will we package up multiple file extensions. There is mention in the wiki of eggs about which I know nothing I'm afraid. Are there ubuntu packages for it? The site pointed to only seems to have source tarballs. We could also accept .tar.gz and .zip files. I think it would be helpful if extensions had a narrative that described their purpose briefly in one line so that the manager can display it in the list of installed extensions. (I'm thinking similar to firefox extensions here.) Of course you can only uninstall user extensions. Should you also be allowed to install a user extension with the same name as a system one? The user one would override the system one. -- John From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Mon Oct 2 14:44:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302723B006D for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:44:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26653-10 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:44:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93AC3B0074 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:44:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1592052nfa for ; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 11:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr6060577nfi; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 11:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 11:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 21:43:59 +0300 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: "John Green" In-Reply-To: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.423 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.023, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.423 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher dev-list Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Managing extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 18:44:02 -0000 maybe install the extensions in .tar.gz archives? ie: cubase-exporter.tar.gz would contain: / /ce-main.py /ce-functions.py /images/ /images/icon.png /images/icon-02.png /README If its not resource hungry to untar the extensions on loading or at point of usage, I think its quite tidy that way. Or as you said modules or python eggs. On 10/2/06, John Green wrote: > I've started to look into the 'Manage Extensions' option in the > extensions menu and have a few questions on how extensions will be > deployed/installed. > > At the minute all the extensions we have are in a single directory. Some > of them consist of more than one file (typically a .py and a .glade for > instance). Some are a single .py. Freesound search has more than one > .py file. When jokosher loads the extensions it retrieves a list of all > .py files and executes the startup() function (if one exists). If we > allow extensions to span multiple .py files then this causes a couple of > problems. Firstly only one file will contain the startup function and > jokosher needs a method of determining which it is. Secondly as we add > more and more extensions with multiple files then eventually there will > be a clash of names. Perhaps we need to organise each extension within > its own subdirectory. Or we could just compel extensions to be contained > within a single module but this seems a bit restrictive to me. > > How will the extensions be packaged? A simple extension consisting of a > single .py file is one thing but how will we package up multiple file > extensions. There is mention in the wiki of eggs about which I know > nothing I'm afraid. Are there ubuntu packages for it? The site pointed > to only seems to have source tarballs. We could also accept .tar.gz and > .zip files. > > I think it would be helpful if extensions had a narrative that described > their purpose briefly in one line so that the manager can display it in > the list of installed extensions. (I'm thinking similar to firefox > extensions here.) Of course you can only uninstall user extensions. > Should you also be allowed to install a user extension with the same > name as a system one? The user one would override the system one. > > -- > John > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > -- Panos Laganakos From jens.geiregat@gmail.com Mon Oct 2 15:10:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56293B00B8 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 15:10:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28353-03 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 15:10:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43EB3B006C for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 15:10:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id x66so2767272pye for ; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 12:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.103.1 with SMTP id f1mr8068088pym; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 12:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.38.8 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 12:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 21:10:52 +0200 From: "Jens Geiregat" To: "Panos Laganakos" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.393 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.393 X-Spam-Level: Cc: John Green , jokosher dev-list Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Managing extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:10:55 -0000 Or just give every extension its own folder? Keeps the extensions folder clean, allows extensions to have their own files, no extraction needed. Or force extensions to have one NAME.py file and allow a NAME-folder. Jens On 10/2/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > maybe install the extensions in .tar.gz archives? > > ie: cubase-exporter.tar.gz would contain: > > / > /ce-main.py > /ce-functions.py > /images/ > /images/icon.png > /images/icon-02.png > /README > > If its not resource hungry to untar the extensions on loading or at > point of usage, I think its quite tidy that way. > > Or as you said modules or python eggs. > > On 10/2/06, John Green wrote: > > I've started to look into the 'Manage Extensions' option in the > > extensions menu and have a few questions on how extensions will be > > deployed/installed. > > > > At the minute all the extensions we have are in a single directory. Some > > of them consist of more than one file (typically a .py and a .glade for > > instance). Some are a single .py. Freesound search has more than one > > .py file. When jokosher loads the extensions it retrieves a list of all > > .py files and executes the startup() function (if one exists). If we > > allow extensions to span multiple .py files then this causes a couple of > > problems. Firstly only one file will contain the startup function and > > jokosher needs a method of determining which it is. Secondly as we add > > more and more extensions with multiple files then eventually there will > > be a clash of names. Perhaps we need to organise each extension within > > its own subdirectory. Or we could just compel extensions to be contained > > within a single module but this seems a bit restrictive to me. > > > > How will the extensions be packaged? A simple extension consisting of a > > single .py file is one thing but how will we package up multiple file > > extensions. There is mention in the wiki of eggs about which I know > > nothing I'm afraid. Are there ubuntu packages for it? The site pointed > > to only seems to have source tarballs. We could also accept .tar.gz and > > .zip files. > > > > I think it would be helpful if extensions had a narrative that described > > their purpose briefly in one line so that the manager can display it in > > the list of installed extensions. (I'm thinking similar to firefox > > extensions here.) Of course you can only uninstall user extensions. > > Should you also be allowed to install a user extension with the same > > name as a system one? The user one would override the system one. > > > > -- > > John > > _______________________________________________ > > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > > > > > -- > Panos Laganakos > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > From laszlok2@gmail.com Mon Oct 2 16:41:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55B33B01C5 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 16:41:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00477-05 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 16:41:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120003B00AC for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 16:41:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id x66so2791027pye for ; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.84.12 with SMTP id m12mr8470096pyl; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [70.29.186.3]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 15sm2814306nzo.2006.10.02.13.41.01; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4521795C.4020404@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:41:00 -0400 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Green References: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher dev-list Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Managing extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 20:41:05 -0000 John Green wrote: > I've started to look into the 'Manage Extensions' option in the > extensions menu and have a few questions on how extensions will be > deployed/installed. > Yes, thank you! Now I don't have to do it ;) > At the minute all the extensions we have are in a single directory. Some > of them consist of more than one file (typically a .py and a .glade for > instance). Some are a single .py. Freesound search has more than one > .py file. When jokosher loads the extensions it retrieves a list of all > .py files and executes the startup() function (if one exists). If we > allow extensions to span multiple .py files then this causes a couple of > problems. Firstly only one file will contain the startup function and > jokosher needs a method of determining which it is. Secondly as we add > more and more extensions with multiple files then eventually there will > be a clash of names. Perhaps we need to organise each extension within > its own subdirectory. Or we could just compel extensions to be contained > within a single module but this seems a bit restrictive to me. > > How will the extensions be packaged? A simple extension consisting of a > single .py file is one thing but how will we package up multiple file > extensions. There is mention in the wiki of eggs about which I know > nothing I'm afraid. Are there ubuntu packages for it? The site pointed > to only seems to have source tarballs. We could also accept .tar.gz and > .zip files. > Aq is in fact the only one who knows anything about eggs. Last I heard he was planning on putting some code in Extension.py that allowed Jokosher to load files from eggs. Hopefully he will be back soon. Actually you are talking about two separate things. First how will we distribute extensions, and how will we store extensions in ~/.jokosher/extension/. I think .tar (or tar.gz if you really want to) will work fine for the first use. We could also do eggs if Aq has time to implement it. One other thing to think about is: where should extensions keep their own config files? If we put them all in ~/.jokosher/extensions/ we will probably run into name conflicts. This makes having separate dirs even more appealing. > I think it would be helpful if extensions had a narrative that described > their purpose briefly in one line so that the manager can display it in > the list of installed extensions. (I'm thinking similar to firefox > extensions here.) Of course you can only uninstall user extensions. > Should you also be allowed to install a user extension with the same > name as a system one? The user one would override the system one. I thought about this for a while and I have come to the conclusion that we shouldn't allow extensions to be installed system wide. This primarily comes down to the fact that if the user wants to turn off an extension (maybe its buggy or they just don't like it) and its in /usr/lib/jokosher/extensions/ they can't. This presents a usability problem for the extension manager because people will be puzzled by the fact that some extensions can be uninstalled and others can't. But of course we want to be able to ship extensions with a Jokosher install. Right now on startup jokosher checks if the folders extensions, presets, instruments, etc. exist in ~/.jokosher/. If they don't exist they are created. If no extension dir exists, we can just copy the one from /usr/lib/jokosher/extensions/ complete with the default extensions inside. This allows the user to control what extensions are running, and uninstalling one of the default extensions does not remove it for everyone else on the system. Laszlo From sinisterguy@gmail.com Mon Oct 2 17:08:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7E43B002A for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 17:08:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01995-10 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 17:08:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280B23B0011 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 17:08:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so580691nzn for ; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.237.15 with SMTP id o15mr7884021qbr; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.15.101? ( [74.111.140.109]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p4sm6450747qba.2006.10.02.14.08.23; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:08:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Luke Tilley To: Jens Geiregat In-Reply-To: References: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:08:52 -0400 Message-Id: <1159823332.4789.30.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: John Green , jokosher dev-list , Panos Laganakos Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Managing extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 21:08:25 -0000 I think the folder idea is a good one. Like Jens said, it keep the extension dir clean. As for distribution however, I like the .tar.gz idea. You could have the Extension Manager look for .tar.gz files and then automatically untar them to the users extension dir. Another thing we could do is distribute extensions with a file extension more assosiated wiht jokosher, but still have it be a plain old tar.gz As for the name conflicts. Generally, I don't think that this should be allowed as it will confuse users, but there are also extension updates to consider etc. I'm not quite sure what you should do for that. -Lukas On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 21:10 +0200, Jens Geiregat wrote: > Or just give every extension its own folder? Keeps the extensions > folder clean, allows extensions to have their own files, no extraction > needed. Or force extensions to have one NAME.py file and allow a > NAME-folder. > > > Jens > > On 10/2/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > > maybe install the extensions in .tar.gz archives? > > > > ie: cubase-exporter.tar.gz would contain: > > > > / > > /ce-main.py > > /ce-functions.py > > /images/ > > /images/icon.png > > /images/icon-02.png > > /README > > > > If its not resource hungry to untar the extensions on loading or at > > point of usage, I think its quite tidy that way. > > > > Or as you said modules or python eggs. > > > > > > > > -- > > Panos Laganakos > > _______________________________________________ > > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > > > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list From john@thegreens.co.uk Tue Oct 3 05:07:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B132A3B0095 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 05:07:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31545-10 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 05:07:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.203]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F40383B0096 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 05:07:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 64166 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2006 09:07:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Oct 2006 09:06:59 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DB40C78E79; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 10:06:56 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 10:06:54 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher dev-list Message-ID: <20061003090654.GA11825@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher dev-list References: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> <4521795C.4020404@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4521795C.4020404@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.232 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.298, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.232 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Managing extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 09:07:02 -0000 On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 04:41:00PM -0400, Laszlo Pandy wrote: > One other thing to think about is: where should extensions keep their > own config files? If we put them all in ~/.jokosher/extensions/ we will > probably run into name conflicts. This makes having separate dirs even > more appealing. I think that having each extension in its own directory is cleaner. Maybe we can have the startup() function always in a .py file with the same name as the directory so we don't have to hunt for it. How about adding a GetShortDescription() function to get a one-line description to display in the ManageExtensions window. > Right now on startup jokosher checks if the folders extensions, presets, > instruments, etc. exist in ~/.jokosher/. If they don't exist they are > created. If no extension dir exists, we can just copy the one from > /usr/lib/jokosher/extensions/ complete with the default extensions > inside. This allows the user to control what extensions are running, and > uninstalling one of the default extensions does not remove it for > everyone else on the system. This is fine for a first time install but what about after an upgrade. Package managers don't touch the home directories so jokosher needs some way of knowing it's been upgraded since you last ran, otherwise you won't pick up any upgraded extensions. (maybe add lastversionnumber to ~/.jokosher/config and check on startup. You only ever need to write it when it changes.) -- John Green From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Tue Oct 3 05:29:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DBE73B006A for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 05:29:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32564-01 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 05:29:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED87B3B0095 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 05:29:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so585689ugb for ; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 02:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.100.17 with SMTP id c17mr3536049ugm; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 02:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.238.14 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 02:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610030229m1516cd13q550f2a35a9b6bcca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 10:29:06 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "jokosher dev-list" In-Reply-To: <20061003090654.GA11825@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> <4521795C.4020404@gmail.com> <20061003090654.GA11825@localhost.localdomain> X-Google-Sender-Auth: d845a046789f63f2 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.235 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.165, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.235 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Managing extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 09:29:08 -0000 On 10/3/06, John Green wrote: > On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 04:41:00PM -0400, Laszlo Pandy wrote: > > One other thing to think about is: where should extensions keep their > > own config files? If we put them all in ~/.jokosher/extensions/ we will > > probably run into name conflicts. This makes having separate dirs even > > more appealing. > I think that having each extension in its own directory is cleaner. Maybe we > can have the startup() function always in a .py file with the same name as > the directory so we don't have to hunt for it. How about adding a > GetShortDescription() function to get a one-line description to display in > the ManageExtensions window. OK, my thoughts on extension distribution, running, configuration, and disabling. This is how I planned to do it. Egg files are the standard Python way of distributing a module which requires extra files or more than one Python file all in a single package. It seems silly to me to do .tar.gz methods, because we'd basically be re-inventing .egg files ourselves. The issues of "when do we unpack them" are also a problem. Eggs are like Java .jar files. See http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/PythonEggs for details about them. Using egg files will make it easier to port to different platforms, because the stuff to use them is already built in to Python. An egg file can be imported as a module without unpacking, which is the point of them, and Python files inside the .egg can load other files inside the .egg (say, .glade files) also without unpacking. Installation of a .tar.gz file is awkward, because you can drag it into the extensions folder but can't then later drag it out (because it will have been exploded into a directory) which is confusing for users. -------------------------------------------- Configuration: my thought was that we would provide two API functions, getConfigParameter and setConfigParameter. Extensions use those to save configuration. That way, an extension doesn't have to worry about where those parameters are saved. I'd suggest that implementation of those parameters is done something like this: Extension calls setConfigParameter("username", "stuartl") (to save a username) setConfigParameter looks for .jokosher/extension-config/EXTENSIONNAME.config and finds that it doesn't exist Create a dictionary {"username", "stuartl"} and pickle it to the file .jokosher/extension-config/EXTENSIONNAME.config Extension calls setConfigParameter("password", "mypass") setConfigParameter looks for .jokosher/extension-config/EXTENSIONNAME.config and finds that it does exist pickle.load that file to a dictionary add "password", "mypass" to that dictionary and repickle it back to the file Extension calls getConfigParameter("username") getConfigParameter looks for .jokosher/extension-config/EXTENSIONNAME.config and finds that it does exist pickle.load it into a dictionary d return d["username"] Make sense? The reason we use pickle is that then people can set config parameters to be complicated things like another dictionary: setConfigParameter("somedata", {"wibble":"bar"}) should work. -------------------------------------------- Disabling global extensions: I think that the easiest way to do this is to have a .jokosher/extension-config/disabled file which lists global extensions that should not be loaded. That, to me, seems a lot better than losing the ability to have global extensions, or having a rather unpleasant hack of having J "copy" extensions from a global dir into your local dir when you run it. That idea also won't work all that well because if you run J, it "copies" a global extension into your .jokosher, you then delete that "copied" extension (to disable it) and run J again, it'll copy it again! A "disabled" file explicitly listing global extensions you don't want to run seems like the easiest way, and being able to ship extensions with Jokosher is such a big win that we don't want to step away from it if we can avoid it. -------------------------------------------- Sorry I've been out of touch for a few days. Welcome to new people, too! sil -- If hard data were the filtering criterion you could fit the entire contents of the Internet on a floppy disk. -- Cecil Adams From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Tue Oct 3 05:32:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74AF83B0077 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 05:32:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32531-06 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 05:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9B63B006A for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 05:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so585946ugb for ; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 02:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.244.10 with SMTP id r10mr3540384ugh; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 02:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.238.14 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 02:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610030232v50ea7e7dw5f13c6be772d2ec4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 10:32:25 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Pau Arumi" In-Reply-To: <45211E88.6080505@iua.upf.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <451EAF9F.8010409@iua.upf.edu> <451EBEB9.9050609@gmail.com> <45211E88.6080505@iua.upf.edu> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 107f6a614daca017 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.237 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.163, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.237 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, Laszlo Pandy Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] trying to set up jokosher X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 09:32:29 -0000 > This is the only difficulty I've found: In the wiki > "InstallingCvsGstreamer" you can read > "Now, repeat the steps [./autogen.sh and make] for the other modules in > any order." > > I've noted that not every order is good, since you can find errors of > .pc files not found. Quite right, and I've updated the wiki. Thanks! sil -- 2. Make it halfway normal. I don't have any use for laser-beam-shooting pocket combs, or non-existent existents existing within their own existences, or ballpoint pens made out of lettuce. -- CardinalT dictates rules for the raif Silly Game From john@thegreens.co.uk Tue Oct 3 07:10:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD69F3B00BC for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 07:10:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04578-01 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 07:10:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B250D3B0160 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 07:10:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 33596 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2006 11:10:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Oct 2006 11:10:33 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 90C3F78E7B; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 12:10:32 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 12:10:32 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061003111032.GA14872@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> <4521795C.4020404@gmail.com> <20061003090654.GA11825@localhost.localdomain> <4c91566f0610030229m1516cd13q550f2a35a9b6bcca@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610030229m1516cd13q550f2a35a9b6bcca@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.282 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.248, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.282 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Managing extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 11:10:37 -0000 On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 10:29:06AM +0100, Stuart Langridge wrote: > > Egg files are the standard Python way of distributing a module which > requires extra files or more than one Python file all in a single > package. It seems silly to me to do .tar.gz methods, because we'd > basically be re-inventing .egg files ourselves. The issues of "when do > we unpack them" are also a problem. Eggs are like Java .jar files. See > http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/PythonEggs for details about > them. Using egg files will make it easier to port to different After reading that page again and using apt-cache I found the package python-setuptools on dapper which I think is what I was missing. I'll have look at this and have a play. Cheers -- John Green From sinisterguy@gmail.com Tue Oct 3 17:17:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885883B0007 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 17:17:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04230-02 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 17:17:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.202]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D263B006D for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 17:17:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so721582nzn for ; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 14:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.237.1 with SMTP id o1mr9899217qbr; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 14:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.15.101? ( [74.111.140.109]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f15sm2761493qba.2006.10.03.14.17.55; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 14:17:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Luke Tilley To: Jokosher Devel List Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:18:27 -0400 Message-Id: <1159910307.4792.16.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Recording Problems... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:17:58 -0000 Hello All, As some of you may know, I have been having recording problems with Jokosher (Both 0.1 and latest svn). Until recently, I couldn't get anything at all to record under linux. I recently found the solution on the alsa mailing list. With a Creative SoundBlaster Live! (my card), you must turn down AC97 output to 0, turn up AC97 Capture to 100, turn up Capture and set it to record and finally, turn up whatever you want to record and set it to record. complicated to say the least. Anyways, what would happen then was that I'd set up everything properly, but nothing would be recorded in Jokosher. I fired up audacity and it worked though. Strange to say the least. Long story short, I finally isolated the problem: Jokosher was muting AC97 Capture every time I tried to record. I further narrowed the problem down to these lines in JokosherApp.py: for track in mixer.list_tracks(): if track.flags & gst.interfaces.MIXER_TRACK_INPUT: mixer.set_record(track, False) #Most cards incapable of multiple simultanious input have a channel called 'Capture' which must be enabled along with the actual input channel if track.label == 'Capture': mixer.set_record(track, True) I'm not entirely sure what the 'if track.flags...' part does, but it seems to mute everything except the channels armed for recording. Then the Capture channel is armed, but that only does half of the work. For my sound card AC97 needs to be enabled as well. The quick and dirty fix is obvious: just add: if track.label == 'AC97 Capture': mixer.set_record(track, True) However, this is quite unelegant as not all sound cards have an 'AC97 Capture'. A marginally better way I think, would be to check to see if the sound card is indeed one which needs this hack, but like I said, that would only be marginally better. What do you guys think? -Lukas From jonobacon@gmail.com Tue Oct 3 19:01:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7021D3B0074 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 19:01:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09078-01 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 19:01:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2F23B0081 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 19:01:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so307536nfa for ; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.160.2 with SMTP id i2mr5138518hue; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.206.3 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 16:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610031601y279f7d16s50bc6ab416639e63@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 00:01:17 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "Luke Tilley" In-Reply-To: <1159910307.4792.16.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1159910307.4792.16.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.446 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.046, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.446 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Devel List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Recording Problems... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:01:22 -0000 On 10/3/06, Luke Tilley wrote: > I'm not entirely sure what the 'if track.flags...' part does, but it > seems to mute everything except the channels armed for recording. Then > the Capture channel is armed, but that only does half of the work. For > my sound card AC97 needs to be enabled as well. > > The quick and dirty fix is obvious: just add: > > if track.label == 'AC97 Capture': > mixer.set_record(track, True) > > However, this is quite unelegant as not all sound cards have an 'AC97 > Capture'. A marginally better way I think, would be to check to see if > the sound card is indeed one which needs this hack, but like I said, > that would only be marginally better. What do you guys think? Hmm, this is an interesting one. Elleo has been doing most of the work on the ALSA recording side, and I am sure he can offer some information. I did look into some of this, and GStreamer has an ALSA mixer interface that reports which capture inputs are available. Now, I was under the impression that the Instrument Connections dialog lists the available inputs that can be selected and this is used to specify the specific input, but it seems from the above that the Capture inputs needs to enabled as well. I would recommend you have a look into the GstAlsaMixer, if I remember correctly. When I last checked there was not an awful lot of documentation, so I poked around with different things and used dir() to figure out what was going on. I am sure the guys in #gstreamer can be of help too. From what I remember, the mixer capabilities (which inputs are available) is exposed with the GStreamer ALSA mixer interface, and each input has a record flag which I assume is set with set_record(). This probably explains some of the recording problems that some people have had with 0.1. Jono From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Wed Oct 4 02:58:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD04D3B000F for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 02:58:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26421-08 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 02:58:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB753B0007 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 02:58:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so389841nfa for ; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:58:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.120.14 with SMTP id s14mr12460buc; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.115.13 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 23:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610032358v5cb378caib1508798e247bcc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 07:58:53 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "jokosher dev-list" In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610030229m1516cd13q550f2a35a9b6bcca@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> <4521795C.4020404@gmail.com> <20061003090654.GA11825@localhost.localdomain> <4c91566f0610030229m1516cd13q550f2a35a9b6bcca@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9c5ab572439b6212 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.428 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.028, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.428 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Managing extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 06:58:57 -0000 > Configuration: my thought was that we would provide two API functions, > getConfigParameter and setConfigParameter. Extensions use those to > save configuration. That way, an extension doesn't have to worry about > where those parameters are saved. I've now added this, and my freesound extension is using it (but that's not committed yet). Haven't updated the wiki yet. sil -- For your information, some people think I'm very funny -- Joe Hallenbach, "The Last Boy Scout" From mike@mikeasoft.com Wed Oct 4 06:02:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140613B0009 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 06:02:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01837-07 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 06:02:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bigben2.bytemark.co.uk (bigben2.bytemark.co.uk [80.68.81.132]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1569E3B006A for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 06:02:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mikeasoft.com ([80.68.92.185]) by bigben2.bytemark.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GV3Zq-0005PP-DQ for jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org; Wed, 04 Oct 2006 10:02:10 +0000 Received: from mike by mikeasoft.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GV3e8-0006mw-00 for ; Wed, 04 Oct 2006 11:06:36 +0100 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 11:06:35 +0100 From: Michael Sheldon To: Jokosher Devel List Message-ID: <20061004100633.GL2753@mikeasoft.com> Mail-Followup-To: Jokosher Devel List References: <1159910307.4792.16.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <1c3fe48e0610031601y279f7d16s50bc6ab416639e63@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1c3fe48e0610031601y279f7d16s50bc6ab416639e63@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (Linux) Sender: Michael Sheldon X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.349 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.250, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.349 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Recording Problems... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 10:02:14 -0000 On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 12:01:17AM +0100, Jono Bacon wrote: > On 10/3/06, Luke Tilley wrote: > > I'm not entirely sure what the 'if track.flags...' part does, but it > > seems to mute everything except the channels armed for recording. Then > > the Capture channel is armed, but that only does half of the work. For > > my sound card AC97 needs to be enabled as well. > > > > The quick and dirty fix is obvious: just add: > > > > if track.label == 'AC97 Capture': > > mixer.set_record(track, True) > > > > However, this is quite unelegant as not all sound cards have an 'AC97 > > Capture'. A marginally better way I think, would be to check to see if > > the sound card is indeed one which needs this hack, but like I said, > > that would only be marginally better. What do you guys think? > > Hmm, this is an interesting one. Elleo has been doing most of the work > on the ALSA recording side, and I am sure he can offer some > information. Another problem with this whole approach in general is that "Capture" gets translated, so recording is likely to be broken for anyone with a soundcard like this that is using a different locale. I've had a chat with MikeS in #gstreamer and as far as he's aware there's no real way around the problem due to it being an ALSA limitation. So we may need to rethink the way we let the user select inputs. Cheers, Mike. -- Michael Sheldon http://www.mikeasoft.com From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Wed Oct 4 06:34:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2123B0168 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 06:34:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03399-04 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 06:34:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF553B00BB for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 06:34:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so454402nfc for ; Wed, 04 Oct 2006 03:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.126.5 with SMTP id y5mr21707buc; Wed, 04 Oct 2006 03:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.115.13 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 03:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610040334j2f81cab8y354bc90748d4107c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 11:34:48 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Jokosher Devel List" In-Reply-To: <20061004100633.GL2753@mikeasoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1159910307.4792.16.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <1c3fe48e0610031601y279f7d16s50bc6ab416639e63@mail.gmail.com> <20061004100633.GL2753@mikeasoft.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6dfe98abd5ac6de6 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.426 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.026, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.426 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Recording Problems... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 10:34:53 -0000 > Another problem with this whole approach in general is that "Capture" gets translated, so recording is likely to be broken for anyone with a soundcard like this that is using a different locale. > > I've had a chat with MikeS in #gstreamer and as far as he's aware there's no real way around the problem due to it being an ALSA limitation. So we may need to rethink the way we let the user select inputs. Hang on, not sure I understand this at all. What would we have to do instead? Puzzled... sil -- If God didn't want us to eat meat, then he wouldn't have invented the hamburger, would he? Logic. -- Bevier, alt.fan.eddings From mike@mikeasoft.com Wed Oct 4 06:49:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A7D3B00D2 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 06:49:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04178-08 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 06:49:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tallyho.bytemark.co.uk (tallyho.bytemark.co.uk [80.68.81.166]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A023B007A for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 06:49:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mikeasoft.com ([80.68.92.185]) by tallyho.bytemark.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GV4Ju-0000gA-2s for jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org; Wed, 04 Oct 2006 10:49:46 +0000 Received: from mike by mikeasoft.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GV4O7-0006x7-00 for ; Wed, 04 Oct 2006 11:54:07 +0100 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 11:54:07 +0100 From: Michael Sheldon To: Jokosher Devel List Message-ID: <20061004105407.GM2753@mikeasoft.com> Mail-Followup-To: Jokosher Devel List References: <1159910307.4792.16.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <1c3fe48e0610031601y279f7d16s50bc6ab416639e63@mail.gmail.com> <20061004100633.GL2753@mikeasoft.com> <4c91566f0610040334j2f81cab8y354bc90748d4107c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610040334j2f81cab8y354bc90748d4107c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (Linux) Sender: Michael Sheldon X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.38 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.219, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.38 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Recording Problems... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 10:49:48 -0000 On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 11:34:48AM +0100, Stuart Langridge wrote: > > Another problem with this whole approach in general is that "Capture" gets translated, so recording is likely to be broken for anyone with a soundcard like this that is using a different locale. > > > > I've had a chat with MikeS in #gstreamer and as far as he's aware there's no real way around the problem due to it being an ALSA limitation. So we may need to rethink the way we let the user select inputs. > > Hang on, not sure I understand this at all. What would we have to do > instead? Puzzled... > We'd have to give the user more control over what channels are selected in some way (making it closer to a normal mixer I guess), which'll make things more complicated for them. Mike. -- Michael Sheldon http://www.mikeasoft.com From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Wed Oct 4 07:12:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C25D3B00C2 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 07:12:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05099-07 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 07:12:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDFF3B0168 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 07:12:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so463952nfc for ; Wed, 04 Oct 2006 04:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.92.18 with SMTP id u18mr2168338nfl; Wed, 04 Oct 2006 04:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 04:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 14:12:06 +0300 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: "Stuart Langridge" In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610040334j2f81cab8y354bc90748d4107c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1159910307.4792.16.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <1c3fe48e0610031601y279f7d16s50bc6ab416639e63@mail.gmail.com> <20061004100633.GL2753@mikeasoft.com> <4c91566f0610040334j2f81cab8y354bc90748d4107c@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.423 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.023, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.423 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Devel List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Recording Problems... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 11:12:12 -0000 Is it possible to answer this at ALSA's level in a way that it would benefit gstreamer/jok? On 10/4/06, Stuart Langridge wrote: > > Another problem with this whole approach in general is that "Capture" gets translated, so recording is likely to be broken for anyone with a soundcard like this that is using a different locale. > > > > I've had a chat with MikeS in #gstreamer and as far as he's aware there's no real way around the problem due to it being an ALSA limitation. So we may need to rethink the way we let the user select inputs. > > Hang on, not sure I understand this at all. What would we have to do > instead? Puzzled... > > sil > > -- > If God didn't want us to eat meat, then he wouldn't have invented the > hamburger, would he? Logic. > -- Bevier, alt.fan.eddings > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > -- Panos Laganakos From john@thegreens.co.uk Wed Oct 4 08:35:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384733B021C for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 08:35:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10091-02 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 08:35:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.142]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 975D53B00C2 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 08:35:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 51507 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2006 12:35:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Oct 2006 12:35:01 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4393478E78; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 13:35:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 13:34:59 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061004123459.GB17924@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> <4521795C.4020404@gmail.com> <20061003090654.GA11825@localhost.localdomain> <4c91566f0610030229m1516cd13q550f2a35a9b6bcca@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610032358v5cb378caib1508798e247bcc@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610032358v5cb378caib1508798e247bcc@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.317 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.213, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.317 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Managing extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 12:35:09 -0000 On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 07:58:53AM +0100, Stuart Langridge wrote: > I've now added this, and my freesound extension is using it (but > that's not committed yet). Haven't updated the wiki yet. > Excellent :) Have you any experience with eggs (or do you leave that to Mrs Aq). I tried making sense of the docs last night and ... whilst it's quite comprehensive it's a bit lacking in actual real examples. This makes it a bit hard finding out what we need to know. There are some tutorials kicking around and it looks like it might making handling extensions a bit of a doddle as far as jokosher itself is concerned. Certainly a fair bit easier than untarring archives etc. The actual building of the egg itself however seems a bit like black magic with lots of farting around with setup files and__init__.py and stuff and I'm not sure how much of this is strictly necessary for our needs. -- John Green From john@thegreens.co.uk Thu Oct 5 11:46:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021123B0018 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 11:46:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18134-06 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 11:46:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.202]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F9383B0079 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 11:46:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 95290 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2006 15:46:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Oct 2006 15:46:48 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B48B778289; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 16:46:47 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 16:46:43 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061005154643.GA11860@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <45215B8A.9010309@thegreens.co.uk> <4521795C.4020404@gmail.com> <20061003090654.GA11825@localhost.localdomain> <4c91566f0610030229m1516cd13q550f2a35a9b6bcca@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610032358v5cb378caib1508798e247bcc@mail.gmail.com> <20061004123459.GB17924@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061004123459.GB17924@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.305 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.148, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069, TW_SV=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -1.305 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Managing extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:46:53 -0000 OK. I've got J working with a simple HelloWorld plugin as an egg. I need to get it working on a plugin with a glade file included before I commit it. Meanwhile a question arises regarding building eggs and the directory structure of the svn repositories for extensions. At the minute a default egg build needs a directory structure something like this: MyExtension/ setup.py src/ MyExtension.py __init__.py MyExtension.glade build/ dist/ build/ is used by setup during the build process (then cleared) dist/ is the default destination of the egg (though you can change it with the -d option to setup.py bdist_egg) If we followed this default layout then the final deployable eggs would be all over the place and make it a bit messy to find and install them. We could make the svn structure look like: extensions/ trunk/ eggs/ Extension_1/ setup_py src/ . . . Extension_2/ . . . extensions/ Extension_1.egg Extension_2.egg . . . SimpleExtension.py When you build the egg you use python setup.py bdist_egg -d ../../extensions/ This keeps all the deployable extensions in one directory. You can also set JOKOSHER_EXTENSION_DIRS to include this dir so that your extensions are always up-to-date whenever you svn up. The disadvantage to doing this is that you always have to remember the -d option when running setup.py before you commit. Unless there's a way to change the default that I haven't found yet. Any thoughts? -- John Green From laszlok2@gmail.com Fri Oct 6 02:26:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A62B03B0099 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 02:26:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24202-06 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 02:26:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B720D3B0094 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 02:26:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id x66so946522pye for ; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 23:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.114.16 with SMTP id r16mr5239696pym; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 23:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [70.29.186.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 8sm1805575nzn.2006.10.05.23.26.34; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 23:26:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 02:26:25 -0400 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jokosher gnome Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher won't launch after r764. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 06:26:40 -0000 With the current revision of SVN, Jokosher fails to launch complaining about the inability to register a new GType. Lukas reported this on IRC and its really bizarre. I spent some time figuring out how to fix it, but I still have no clue why it happened in the first place: /home/laszlo/Software/SVN/jokosher/JonoEdit/trunk/Jokosher/TimeView.py:17: Warning: cannot register existing type `TimeView' class TimeView(gtk.EventBox): Traceback (most recent call last): File "./Jokosher/Jokosher", line 105, in ? localFileOrGlobalFileImport("JokosherApp") File "./Jokosher/Jokosher", line 33, in localFileOrGlobalFileImport globals()[importName] = __import__("Jokosher." + importName, None, None, True) File "/home/laszlo/Software/SVN/jokosher/JonoEdit/trunk/Jokosher/JokosherApp.py", line 14, in ? import AddInstrumentDialog, TimeView, CompactMixView File "/home/laszlo/Software/SVN/jokosher/JonoEdit/trunk/Jokosher/TimeView.py", line 17, in ? class TimeView(gtk.EventBox): RuntimeError: could not create new GType I'm not sure why it effects TimeView.py or why it has anything at all to do with a GType, but this is caused by python not being able to find the pkg_resources module that is used to load python eggs. To fix it just install python-setuptools on Ubuntu, or the equivalent non-DEB package for everyone else. P.S. Its thanksgiving in Canada this weekend, so I won't be back until Tuesday. I'll see everyone then, and hopefully Jono too :) Laszlo From john@thegreens.co.uk Fri Oct 6 04:57:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64BC93B000E for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 04:57:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31819-02 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 04:57:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.204]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A0983B0008 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 04:57:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 65161 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2006 08:57:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Oct 2006 08:57:09 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1D8C277EB2; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:57:09 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:57:09 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061006085708.GA5674@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.248 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.058, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_BASE64_NO_NAME=0.224, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.248 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher won't launch after r764. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 08:57:15 -0000 --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 02:26:25AM -0400, Laszlo Pandy wrote: > With the current revision of SVN, Jokosher fails to launch complaining > about the inability to register a new GType. Lukas reported this on IRC > and its really bizarre. I spent some time figuring out how to fix it, > but I still have no clue why it happened in the first place: > Damn. Sorry to have wasted anyone's time with this. I did mention the new dependency in the commit log but perhaps I should have said it here as well. I suppose just because I always read them I shouldn't assume everyone else does. The actual error seems bizarre and unrelated though. I'd have expected it to fail importing pkg_resources. Another thing. I intend writing up the egg stuff in the wiki but it's my son's birthday bash this weekend so in case I don't get around to it I attach the files for my HelloWorld extension. You can run it by copying the .egg file in the dist/ sub-dir to ~/.jokosher/extensions. The main difference from the current extensions we have is that you can't access files in the package directly as files but instead instead you use pkg_resources functions. So we can use these to read the glade file into a string and load the widget tree from that. The setup.py file has the stuff we need build the egg (entrypoints is the key to loading it into jokosher - you must use the same name that jokosher is looking for i.e. "jokosher.extensions"). 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(localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910F63B0189 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 07:06:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06718-08 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 07:06:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590003B01D3 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 07:05:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1043609nfa for ; Fri, 06 Oct 2006 04:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.120.14 with SMTP id s14mr168275buc; Fri, 06 Oct 2006 04:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.115.13 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 04:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610060405j78c0e83aw7e6ca1788f7b6fbf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 12:05:58 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Jokosher Devel List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: b7d9f2fe1dbd049e X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.425 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.025, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.425 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Nyquist plugins X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 11:06:02 -0000 Audacity does this thing called Nyquist (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/help/nyquist) which allows people to write plugins in a text editor and that don't need compilation. Anyone know if there are gstreamer plans to support it? It'd be good if Jokosher could take advantage of any Nyquist plugins that get written... sil -- Abusus non tollit usum (The threat of potential abuse should not be an argument against any use) From jefrat@gmail.com Fri Oct 6 08:26:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8750D3B02E1 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 08:26:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10917-04 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 08:26:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F173B01AB for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 08:26:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so333252ugb for ; Fri, 06 Oct 2006 05:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.201.10 with SMTP id y10mr1563828huf; Fri, 06 Oct 2006 05:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.136.13 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 05:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <29d55b2b0610060526x2790f31mab2c5a3bef773ef6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 08:26:21 -0400 From: "Jeff Ratliff" To: "Jokosher Devel List" In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610060405j78c0e83aw7e6ca1788f7b6fbf@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4c91566f0610060405j78c0e83aw7e6ca1788f7b6fbf@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Nyquist plugins X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:26:25 -0000 On 06/10/06, Stuart Langridge wrote: > Audacity does this thing called Nyquist > (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/help/nyquist) which allows people to > write plugins in a text editor and that don't need compilation. Anyone > know if there are gstreamer plans to support it? It'd be good if > Jokosher could take advantage of any Nyquist plugins that get > written... > I looked into learning Nyquist a while back. It's a strange version of Lisp designed for describing transformations to sound files. Surely we could just whip up a Lisp interpreter for Jokosher for version 0.3? :) Actually it seems to be pretty powerful, and it IS an existing scripting language for sound editing. As far as the Gstreamer part, I haven't a clue. -- Jeff Ratliff (Gomer_X) From chris-procter@talk21.com Fri Oct 6 09:13:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 031FE3B0017 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:13:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13179-07 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:13:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.207]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7374F3B01CE for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:13:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9880 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Oct 2006 13:13:22 -0000 Message-ID: <20061006131322.9878.qmail@web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.245.38.105] by web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:13:22 BST Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 14:13:22 +0100 (BST) From: chris procter To: Jokosher gnome In-Reply-To: <29d55b2b0610060526x2790f31mab2c5a3bef773ef6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.269 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.867, BAYES_05=-1.11, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708] X-Spam-Score: -0.269 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Nyquist plugins X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:13:29 -0000 --- Jeff Ratliff wrote: > Surely we could just whip up a Lisp interpreter for > Jokosher for version 0.3? :) "Any sufficiently complicated program contains an ad-hoc, informally-specified bug-ridden slow implementation of half of Common Lisp." — Greenspun's Tenth Rule of Programming So maybe we should bow to the inevitable sooner rather then later :) chris ___________________________________________________________ Try the all-new Yahoo! 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"The New Version is radically easier to use" – The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From chris-procter@talk21.com Fri Oct 6 09:44:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3A43B00B7 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:44:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14721-05 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:44:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web86603.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web86603.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.136]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DC8143B01B8 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:44:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30715 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Oct 2006 13:44:50 -0000 Message-ID: <20061006134450.30713.qmail@web86603.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.245.38.105] by web86603.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:44:50 BST Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 14:44:50 +0100 (BST) From: chris procter To: Jokosher gnome In-Reply-To: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.96 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708] X-Spam-Score: -0.96 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher won't launch after r764. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:44:55 -0000 --- Laszlo Pandy wrote: > With the current revision of SVN, Jokosher fails to > launch complaining > about the inability to register a new GType. Lukas > reported this on IRC > and its really bizarre. I spent some time figuring > out how to fix it, > but I still have no clue why it happened in the > first place: > > /home/laszlo/Software/SVN/jokosher/JonoEdit/trunk/Jokosher/TimeView.py:17: > > Warning: cannot register existing type `TimeView' > class TimeView(gtk.EventBox): > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "./Jokosher/Jokosher", line 105, in ? > localFileOrGlobalFileImport("JokosherApp") > File "./Jokosher/Jokosher", line 33, in > localFileOrGlobalFileImport > globals()[importName] = __import__("Jokosher." > + importName, None, > None, True) > File > "/home/laszlo/Software/SVN/jokosher/JonoEdit/trunk/Jokosher/JokosherApp.py", > > line 14, in ? > import AddInstrumentDialog, TimeView, > CompactMixView > File > "/home/laszlo/Software/SVN/jokosher/JonoEdit/trunk/Jokosher/TimeView.py", > > line 17, in ? > class TimeView(gtk.EventBox): > RuntimeError: could not create new GType > > > I'm not sure why it effects TimeView.py or why it > has anything at all to > do with a GType, but this is caused by python not > being able to find the > pkg_resources module that is used to load python > eggs. It seems you get this error message if you import any unknown module after TimeView.py is imported. Before TimeView.py you get:- Cannot find local file JokosherApp.py. Cannot find system Jokosher installation. instead, which is interesting. I would suspect that python is not generating a stack trace correctly when it fails to import a file, and so we're seeing the previous stack trace that is caught (as I understand python it generates the stack trace then deals with the exception so caught exceptions generate the stack trace but dont display it) I cant prove this of course so I may be wrong, but if you still get this error after installing python-setuptools then you are probably missing another imported module. chris > P.S. Its thanksgiving in Canada this weekend, so I > won't be back until > Tuesday. I'll see everyone then, and hopefully Jono > too :) > > Laszlo Happy thanksgiving :) ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! 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( [74.111.140.109]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id a5sm561914qbd.2006.10.07.08.00.37; Sat, 07 Oct 2006 08:00:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Luke Tilley To: Laszlo Pandy In-Reply-To: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> References: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:01:25 -0400 Message-Id: <1160233286.4975.2.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher gnome Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher won't launch after r764. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2006 15:00:39 -0000 I've been busy over the past few days, so I haven't had time to fiddle around too much with this problem. But anyways, I tried installing the equivalent to python-setuptools on my distro, but i'm still getting the same trace. Any suggestions? On Fri, 2006-10-06 at 02:26 -0400, Laszlo Pandy wrote: > With the current revision of SVN, Jokosher fails to launch complaining > about the inability to register a new GType. Lukas reported this on IRC > and its really bizarre. I spent some time figuring out how to fix it, > but I still have no clue why it happened in the first place: > > /home/laszlo/Software/SVN/jokosher/JonoEdit/trunk/Jokosher/TimeView.py:17: > Warning: cannot register existing type `TimeView' > class TimeView(gtk.EventBox): > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "./Jokosher/Jokosher", line 105, in ? > localFileOrGlobalFileImport("JokosherApp") > File "./Jokosher/Jokosher", line 33, in localFileOrGlobalFileImport > globals()[importName] = __import__("Jokosher." + importName, None, > None, True) > File > "/home/laszlo/Software/SVN/jokosher/JonoEdit/trunk/Jokosher/JokosherApp.py", > line 14, in ? > import AddInstrumentDialog, TimeView, CompactMixView > File > "/home/laszlo/Software/SVN/jokosher/JonoEdit/trunk/Jokosher/TimeView.py", > line 17, in ? > class TimeView(gtk.EventBox): > RuntimeError: could not create new GType > > > I'm not sure why it effects TimeView.py or why it has anything at all to > do with a GType, but this is caused by python not being able to find the > pkg_resources module that is used to load python eggs. > > To fix it just install python-setuptools on Ubuntu, or the equivalent > non-DEB package for everyone else. > > P.S. Its thanksgiving in Canada this weekend, so I won't be back until > Tuesday. I'll see everyone then, and hopefully Jono too :) > > Laszlo > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list From john@thegreens.co.uk Mon Oct 9 04:44:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72DAD3B007F for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 04:44:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12968-01 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 04:44:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.141]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E2C13B006D for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 04:44:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 81937 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2006 08:44:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 2006 08:44:12 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 575DE77E3D; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:44:11 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:44:10 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061009084410.GA4227@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> <1160233286.4975.2.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1160233286.4975.2.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.366 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.164, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.366 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher won't launch after r764. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 08:44:17 -0000 On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 11:01:25AM -0400, Luke Tilley wrote: > I've been busy over the past few days, so I haven't had time to fiddle > around too much with this problem. But anyways, I tried installing the > equivalent to python-setuptools on my distro, but i'm still getting the > same trace. Any suggestions? > Can you import setuptools and pkg_resources inside a python console? If you can't then you don't have everything installed properly that you need. If you can then something else is up here. What's your distribution btw? I think most people here do ubuntu so it would be interesting to see if we have any problems with other distros, particularly regarding dependency issues. -- John Green From sinisterguy@gmail.com Mon Oct 9 10:47:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74CAF3B01F4 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 10:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31451-08 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 10:47:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FECA3B0174 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 10:46:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so2010368nfc for ; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 07:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.80.12 with SMTP id h12mr2150863nfl; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 07:46:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.15.4? ( [74.111.140.109]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id a5sm3374382qbd.2006.10.09.07.46.56; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 07:46:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Luke Tilley To: John Green In-Reply-To: <20061009084410.GA4227@localhost.localdomain> References: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> <1160233286.4975.2.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <20061009084410.GA4227@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 10:47:49 -0400 Message-Id: <1160405270.5163.1.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher won't launch after r764. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:47:04 -0000 I tried importing setuptools and pkg_resources in a python console and it worked. I also changed around the order in which it was imported and it still worked. Something funky's going on. I'm using Arch Linux btw. Its a great distro most of the time. WillySilly on IRC also uses it. On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 09:44 +0100, John Green wrote: > On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 11:01:25AM -0400, Luke Tilley wrote: > > I've been busy over the past few days, so I haven't had time to fiddle > > around too much with this problem. But anyways, I tried installing the > > equivalent to python-setuptools on my distro, but i'm still getting the > > same trace. Any suggestions? > > > Can you import setuptools and pkg_resources inside a python console? If you > can't then you don't have everything installed properly that you need. If > you can then something else is up here. > > What's your distribution btw? I think most people here do ubuntu so it would > be interesting to see if we have any problems with other distros, > particularly regarding dependency issues. From sinisterguy@gmail.com Mon Oct 9 11:40:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735A43B0009 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 11:40:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02163-02 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 11:40:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8179A3B0076 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 11:40:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so358286nzn for ; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 08:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.249.18 with SMTP id w18mr9320333qbh; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 08:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.15.4? ( [74.111.140.109]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e14sm7131777qba.2006.10.09.08.40.31; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 08:40:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Luke Tilley To: John Green In-Reply-To: <1160405270.5163.1.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> References: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> <1160233286.4975.2.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <20061009084410.GA4227@localhost.localdomain> <1160405270.5163.1.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 11:41:25 -0400 Message-Id: <1160408485.5163.5.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher won't launch after r764. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:40:36 -0000 fixed the problem nibil pointed out on IRC that any module not found imported after TimeView owuld throw the wierd trace, so i went through file by file until I found that I didn't have the python-dbus module installed. So I installed it and now Jokosher's working fine again. On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 10:47 -0400, Luke Tilley wrote: > I tried importing setuptools and pkg_resources in a python console and > it worked. I also changed around the order in which it was imported and > it still worked. Something funky's going on. I'm using Arch Linux btw. > Its a great distro most of the time. WillySilly on IRC also uses it. > > On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 09:44 +0100, John Green wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 11:01:25AM -0400, Luke Tilley wrote: > > > I've been busy over the past few days, so I haven't had time to fiddle > > > around too much with this problem. But anyways, I tried installing the > > > equivalent to python-setuptools on my distro, but i'm still getting the > > > same trace. Any suggestions? > > > > > Can you import setuptools and pkg_resources inside a python console? If you > > can't then you don't have everything installed properly that you need. If > > you can then something else is up here. > > > > What's your distribution btw? I think most people here do ubuntu so it would > > be interesting to see if we have any problems with other distros, > > particularly regarding dependency issues. From john@thegreens.co.uk Mon Oct 9 11:47:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4AFB3B0080 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 11:47:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02637-01 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 11:47:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D47043B000D for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 11:47:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26295 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2006 15:47:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 2006 15:47:34 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 938F277FA4; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 16:47:33 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 16:47:33 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061009154732.GA13991@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> <1160233286.4975.2.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <20061009084410.GA4227@localhost.localdomain> <1160405270.5163.1.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1160405270.5163.1.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.381 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.149, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.381 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher won't launch after r764. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:47:40 -0000 On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 10:47:49AM -0400, Luke Tilley wrote: > I tried importing setuptools and pkg_resources in a python console and > it worked. I also changed around the order in which it was imported and > it still worked. Something funky's going on. I'm using Arch Linux btw. > Its a great distro most of the time. WillySilly on IRC also uses it. > Ok. Then try this next. In the launch script Jokosher (around line 22) comment out the whole try...except...else block and replace it with just the import call. So that the function localFileOrGlobalFileImport() is just def localFileOrGlobalFileImport(importName): globals()[importName] = __import__(importName) and then run it again so that hopefully you only get the *real* error message. This may or may not help -- John Green From john@thegreens.co.uk Mon Oct 9 12:29:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AE163B016B for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 12:29:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04751-07 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 12:29:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.203]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2DF853B0076 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 12:29:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4651 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2006 16:29:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 2006 16:29:35 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EB83877E1F; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 17:29:33 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 17:29:33 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061009162932.GA14789@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> <1160233286.4975.2.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <20061009084410.GA4227@localhost.localdomain> <1160405270.5163.1.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <1160408485.5163.5.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1160408485.5163.5.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.649 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.608, BAYES_05=-1.11, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -0.649 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher won't launch after r764. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 16:29:37 -0000 On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 11:41:25AM -0400, Luke Tilley wrote: > fixed the problem nibil pointed out on IRC that any module not found > imported after TimeView owuld throw the wierd trace, so i went through > file by file until I found that I didn't have the python-dbus module > installed. So I installed it and now Jokosher's working fine again. > Excellent:) I thnk the rather obscure message is caused by something the try.., block in Jokosher is doing because if you comment it out then you get the standard Import Error message. Will look into this later. -- John Green From john@thegreens.co.uk Tue Oct 10 04:49:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0CB3B0243 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 04:49:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16570-08 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 04:49:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.202]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 32C4F3B0221 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 04:49:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 83127 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2006 08:49:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2006 08:49:47 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DD96F77F94; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:49:46 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:49:46 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061010084946.GA6229@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> <1160233286.4975.2.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <20061009084410.GA4227@localhost.localdomain> <1160405270.5163.1.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <1160408485.5163.5.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1160408485.5163.5.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.347 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.183, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.347 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher won't launch after r764. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:49:50 -0000 On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 11:41:25AM -0400, Luke Tilley wrote: > fixed the problem nibil pointed out on IRC that any module not found > imported after TimeView owuld throw the wierd trace, so i went through > file by file until I found that I didn't have the python-dbus module > installed. So I installed it and now Jokosher's working fine again. > This is what I think was happening. The Jokosher launch script is trying to load jokosher modules first from the current directory and then if that fails from a system installation i.e. from PYTHONPATH. It was doing this by first trying to 'import JokosherApp' and if that failed it tried 'import Jokosher.JokosherApp'. If JokosherApp is completely missing from both the current directory and PYTHON PATH then this is OK and everything works. The problem is if there is an exception whilst importing anything that JokosherApp itself imports (and further down the chain). We have a nested try... here and I think in allowing it to continue and try and do the second import after the first failed has a somewhat unpredictable result. Possibly something deep in the bowels of gobject has got run twice when it shouldn't have done (hence the warning about Timeview already being registered just before the exception). In r769 I changed it a bit so it will first look for a file JokosherApp.py in the current directory and if it finds that will import from there. If not it uses imp.find_module() to see if there is a Jokosher.JokosherApp that is importable and if so imports that. If none of these then exit with error. Both the imports are not trapped so if there is a missing module then normal python exception handling prevails. And I hope this fixes it. Unless someone sees something I've missed. -- John Green From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Tue Oct 10 05:21:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635933B0111 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 05:21:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18284-02 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 05:21:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A663B0126 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 05:21:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so242009nfc for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 02:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.111.8 with SMTP id j8mr756697buc; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 02:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 02:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610100221r1e2019cdjec7a9590c28a70e0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:21:25 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Luke Tilley" In-Reply-To: <1160408485.5163.5.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4525F711.1030406@gmail.com> <1160233286.4975.2.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <20061009084410.GA4227@localhost.localdomain> <1160405270.5163.1.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> <1160408485.5163.5.camel@ltilley.tilleygroup> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 03de12bcbfc5dddf X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.424 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.024, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.424 X-Spam-Level: Cc: John Green , jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher won't launch after r764. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:21:28 -0000 On 10/9/06, Luke Tilley wrote: > fixed the problem nibil pointed out on IRC that any module not found > imported after TimeView owuld throw the wierd trace, so i went through > file by file until I found that I didn't have the python-dbus module > installed. So I installed it and now Jokosher's working fine again. That should be added to our "check that you have the right stuff installed" bit when Jokosher starts up, as should setuptools. sil -- docs are for the weak! you must divine the meaning of gnonlin through inner contemplation -- #jokosher From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Tue Oct 10 05:34:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65693B0199 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 05:34:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18701-05 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 05:34:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE5C3B0138 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 05:34:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so245757nfc for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 02:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.123.16 with SMTP id v16mr754440buc; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 02:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 02:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610100234wfbce582s31d297dd92eeacd8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:34:24 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Jokosher Devel List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1b8418cc238ad26c X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.423 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.023, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.423 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:34:30 -0000 Excellent work on the ExtensionsAsEggs page on the wiki, I have to say! I have had a thought. Do we think it's worth having a special filetype for J extensions? My oh-so-clever run-an-extension-directly trick doesn't work with .egg files anyway, so I wonder whether we should just make both .py extensions and .egg extensions be called .jokosher-extension or similar. That has a few benefits: 1. It makes it very clear that something's a Jokosher extension 2. We get a nice icon for them 3. We can ship a tiny program that .jokosher-extension files are associated with; when someone clicks one directly to run it, the little program says "this is a Jokosher extension; would you like to install it?" and then moves it to the .jokosher/extensions folder if they say yes (this is what the oh-so-clever code does, but it doesn't work for .egg files and it's too complicated anyway) 4. It makes it a lot easier to build the Big Directory Of Extensions on extensions.jokosher.org at some point in the future, because it's just the results of a filetype:jokosher-extension Google search :) 5. If you have an extension file and don't have Jokosher, it should at least allow you to guess what it is if it's called whatever.jokosher-extension Downsides: 1. I don't know whether Nautilus will actually recognise files as J extensions just because of a filename; they are *actually* .py or .zip files under the covers. What does Nautilus do with .egg? 2. The file doesn't do anything at all if you have one and don't have Jokosher installed, even if you run it. (That's the case for .egg files anyway, though.) sil -- "Out of the frying pan and into the very same, identical frying-pan. Smegging great." -- Lister, "Last Human" From john@thegreens.co.uk Tue Oct 10 06:38:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9A13B00DC for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 06:38:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21592-10 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 06:38:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B32D43B0061 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 06:38:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 79210 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2006 10:38:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2006 10:38:26 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1345077F94; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:38:25 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:38:25 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061010103825.GA8443@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4c91566f0610100234wfbce582s31d297dd92eeacd8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610100234wfbce582s31d297dd92eeacd8@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.36 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.170, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.36 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:38:32 -0000 On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 10:34:24AM +0100, Stuart Langridge wrote: > I have had a thought. Do we think it's worth having a special filetype > for J extensions? In principle yes. However atm Extension.py is looking at the extension to decide how to treat it (either .py or .egg). We'd have to come up with of another way of differentiating them. There is another problem with extensions that occurs to me. Extensions are meant to provide functionality that is not in core jokosher. You should also be allowed to cater for dependencies that are not in core jokosher. E.g. I have in the back of mind an idea of connecting from my phone using bluetooth. Whether this would actually work or not I don't know but it would mean the extension importing lots of dependencies that are completely useless for anyone without bluetooth capability on their machine. The question is what to do about these missing dependencies. We can trap for these on startup (it goes down in Extension.LoadAllExtensions()) but what do we do? Do we simply display the error? We could offer to disable any that can't be resolved so it only happens the once which might be friendlier. I don't know. -- John Green From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Tue Oct 10 06:49:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9E23B0192 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 06:49:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22693-07 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 06:49:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B273B0199 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 06:49:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so267791nfc for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 03:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.109.19 with SMTP id h19mr761510buc; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 03:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 03:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610100349i14bc9ef4u402515588101af9a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:49:28 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20061010103825.GA8443@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4c91566f0610100234wfbce582s31d297dd92eeacd8@mail.gmail.com> <20061010103825.GA8443@localhost.localdomain> X-Google-Sender-Auth: ff3c653e7b834c1c X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.422 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.422 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:49:30 -0000 > In principle yes. However atm Extension.py is looking at the extension to > decide how to treat it (either .py or .egg). We'd have to come up with of > another way of differentiating them. That's OK, though; you can test whether something's an egg file with the zipfile module. > There is another problem with extensions that occurs to me. Extensions are > meant to provide functionality that is not in core jokosher. You should also > be allowed to cater for dependencies that are not in core jokosher. E.g. I > have in the back of mind an idea of connecting from my phone using > bluetooth. Whether this would actually work or not I don't know but it would > mean the extension importing lots of dependencies that are completely > useless for anyone without bluetooth capability on their machine. The > question is what to do about these missing dependencies. We can trap for > these on startup (it goes down in Extension.LoadAllExtensions()) but what do > we do? The extension should handle that, in a perfect world. It should neatly not offer its functionality, or maybe add a menu item that just pops up a "you need the bluetooth libraries" dialog, if it doesn't have all its dependencies. All we should do in Extension.py is trap a failed import (if the extension just tries to import something that isn't there without checking, or any other error) and print to the debug log "Import of extension Whatever failed", which we already do. In the future, when the Extension Manager exists, we can have it display what the error was, and give people a chance of fixing it, but that's the Extension Manager's job. sil -- 2. Make it halfway normal. I don't have any use for laser-beam-shooting pocket combs, or non-existent existents existing within their own existences, or ballpoint pens made out of lettuce. -- CardinalT dictates rules for the raif Silly Game From jonobacon@gmail.com Tue Oct 10 19:33:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868163B00BC for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 19:33:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31124-07 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 19:33:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5E13B02EB for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 19:33:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so485828nfc for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:33:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.90.10 with SMTP id n10mr63995hub; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:33:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.136.18 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:33:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610101633j3d18464bkd68df2f8f3c6470@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 00:33:01 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "Jokosher Devel List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.445 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.045, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.445 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Hackfest, close to feature freeze, and stuff to do X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:33:11 -0000 Hi all, Well, we freeze for the rather exciting 0.2 release on Nov 1st and we still have some chunks of stuff to write. I just spoke to Luke and John and they are working on the Extensions Manager and converting extensions to egg files, I am working on some remaining effects bits and pieces and I believe Laszlo is working on the volume fades. Have you made any progress on the fades code Laszlo? If you are stuck, give us a shout - I have done some GnlOperations code before. It is important that we try and get them nailed by Nov 1st as Jeff needs to write the docs for 0.2 and we then need to get into bugfixing mode. Finally, this Sunday is our Jokosher hackfest. This is going to be a good opportunity to get the full team together and nailing some of these remaining things. As usual it takes place in #jokosher on irc.freenode.net. I would encourage the art team to be there as we still have some remaining icons that need completing. :) Jono From john@thegreens.co.uk Wed Oct 11 04:57:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A608A3B0323 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 04:57:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22928-06 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 04:57:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.203]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A1C63B002A for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 04:57:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13590 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2006 08:57:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Oct 2006 08:57:47 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B25DB77FA4; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:57:46 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:57:46 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061011085746.GA8446@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4c91566f0610100234wfbce582s31d297dd92eeacd8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610100234wfbce582s31d297dd92eeacd8@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.627 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.586, BAYES_05=-1.11, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -0.627 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 08:57:51 -0000 On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 10:34:24AM +0100, Stuart Langridge wrote: > I have had a thought. Do we think it's worth having a special filetype > for J extensions? My oh-so-clever run-an-extension-directly trick > doesn't work with .egg files anyway, so I wonder whether we should > just make both .py extensions and .egg extensions be called > .jokosher-extension or similar. That has a few benefits: A little snag. It doesn't work if the filename isn't .egg. pkg_resources.working_set.add_entry() adds the filename to the list but pkg_resources.iter_entry_points() won't come up with the goods. Maybe it only looks at .egg files in the list. It was a good idea though. -- John Green From snecklifter@gmail.com Thu Oct 12 18:32:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5143A3B007C for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:32:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04772-05 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:32:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2412E3B0072 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:32:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so1299235nfc for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.48.18 with SMTP id v18mr5894534nfv; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.223.5 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <364d303b0610121532j51455c83x4dc2f0e95660c99e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 23:32:11 +0100 From: "Chris Brown" To: "Jokosher gnome" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.325 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.414, BAYES_05=-1.11, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.325 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Linuxworld London X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:32:13 -0000 Hi Folks, I'm having to welch on my deal to man the Jokosher booth. Therefore if someone is available to replace me at such short notice I would be grateful and would feel slightly less of a wanker. I believe John Green said he may be available for one or both days. Jono suggested two people so that one can wander off for lunch and to have a look around and just generally share duties. Again, my apologies for this. It is not what I wanted. I am also having to retire from commitments of any kind to the project as a whole. I will be documenting as much as I can on the wiki and should still be contactable my email if there are any urgent questions. Regards Chris From john@thegreens.co.uk Thu Oct 12 20:05:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BEAA3B007C for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:05:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08768-05 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:05:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.203]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88E003B013E for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:05:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 56262 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2006 00:05:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Oct 2006 00:05:23 -0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2858C77D71 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 01:05:23 +0100 (BST) From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 01:05:18 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610130105.19339.john@thegreens.co.uk> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.551 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.587, BAYES_05=-1.11, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069, TW_SV=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -0.551 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Subversion directory structure for extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 00:05:27 -0000 In r771 I moved the directory structure around a bit for the extensions that I converted to eggs. (I left Freesound alone as I think Aq is currently working on it). So the layout is now: extensions/ trunk/ eggs/ Extension_1/ setup_py src/ Extension1.py Extension1.glade __init__.py . . . Extension_2/ . . . extensions/ Extension_1.egg Extension_2.egg . . . SimpleExtension.py This is to allow the directory structure needed to build the egg files. If you modify , say Extension1.py then you need to run it's setup script to rebuild the egg.. The command is 'python setup.py bdist_egg'.This builds the egg in a dist/ sub-directory. There is a line at the end of the script to copy the egg up to the extensions/trunk/extensions directory. So this directory contains all the extensions ready for deployment. You can copy these into ~/.jokosher/extensions or, if you add this directory to JOKOSHER_EXTENSION_DIRS then svn up will be all you need do to update. The build process creates other directories: build/ ,dist/ and Extension.egg-info but I think that these are only intermediary and no interest to svn so, for the ones I did I set svn:ignore appropriately. -- John Green john@thegreens.co.uk From laszlok2@gmail.com Thu Oct 12 22:06:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C57E3B007C for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:06:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13343-08 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:06:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B20213B0012 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so347057nzn for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.97.18 with SMTP id z18mr3913133qbl; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e13sm3663803qba.2006.10.12.19.06.45; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <452EF4B3.9080000@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:06:43 -0400 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Green References: <200610130105.19339.john@thegreens.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200610130105.19339.john@thegreens.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Subversion directory structure for extensions X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 02:06:54 -0000 John Green wrote: > In r771 I moved the directory structure around a bit for the extensions that I > converted to eggs. (I left Freesound alone as I think Aq is currently working > on it). So the layout is now: > > extensions/ > trunk/ > eggs/ > Extension_1/ > setup_py > src/ > Extension1.py > Extension1.glade > __init__.py > . . . > Extension_2/ > . . . > extensions/ > Extension_1.egg > Extension_2.egg > . . . > SimpleExtension.py > > This is to allow the directory structure needed to build the egg files. If > you modify , say Extension1.py then you need to run it's setup script to > rebuild the egg.. The command is 'python setup.py bdist_egg'.This builds the > egg in a dist/ sub-directory. There is a line at the end of the script to > copy the egg up to the extensions/trunk/extensions directory. extensions/trunk/extensions seemed a little redundant to me. The egg sources are still in extensions/trunk/eggs/, but I have put all the build eggs as well as the stand alone py files in extensions/trunk/. I have also modified the scripts to copy to this directory instead of the old one. Laszlo From daniel.holbach@ubuntu.com Fri Oct 13 10:44:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423663B0367 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:44:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15786-07 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:44:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fellatio.deswahnsinns.de (langweiligneutral.deswahnsinns.de [80.69.46.90]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3533B01B8 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:44:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [87.123.56.121] (HELO [192.168.1.101]) by fellatio.deswahnsinns.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 1653796 for jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:42:16 +0200 From: Daniel Holbach To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-xWec4Tj31yJiVr6qK8b/" Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:42:14 +0200 Message-Id: <1160750534.16456.2.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.577 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.577 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] [Fwd: Re: Moving icons] X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:44:50 -0000 --=-xWec4Tj31yJiVr6qK8b/ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-zXDHbauYfqOyckl0HoFq" --=-zXDHbauYfqOyckl0HoFq Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Forwarding Michael's message, as he is not on the list. Have a nice day, Daniel --=-zXDHbauYfqOyckl0HoFq Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Weitergeleitete Nachricht - Re: [jokosher-devel] Moving icons Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 X-Real-To: Received: from fiordland.ubuntu.com ([82.211.81.145] verified) by fellatio.deswahnsinns.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 1653761 for dh@mailempfang.de; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:35:49 +0200 Received-SPF: fail receiver=fellatio.deswahnsinns.de; client-ip=82.211.81.145; envelope-from=sir.mvo@gmx.de Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by fiordland.ubuntu.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 860EBB68194 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:35:45 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Oct 2006 14:35:45 -0000 Received: from pD951E681.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO top.ping.de) [217.81.230.129] by mail.gmx.net (mp038) with SMTP; 13 Oct 2006 16:35:45 +0200 X-Authenticated: #18895133 Received: by top.ping.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3FCDA14010D; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:35:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:35:42 +0200 From: Michael Vogt To: Daniel Holbach Cc: Jokosher Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Moving icons Message-ID: <20061013143541.GV6521@top.ping.de> References: <364d303b0609260423n31d4c921p323907edd1337d2a@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0609260440j70e18792o6cd33bcfc2904558@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0609260441y27c4ff3ak60f88ef2c3c66397@mail.gmail.com> <1159275302.4995.3.camel@localhost> <4519CF31.1050309@gmail.com> <1159343307.16477.6.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1159343307.16477.6.camel@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 09:48:27AM +0200, Daniel Holbach wrote: > Hello Laszlo, Hi, sorry for my late reply, the mail somehow slipped under my radar. Thanks to Daniel for reminding me about it :) =20 > thanks for taking the time to reply and figure it out. >=20 > Am Dienstag, den 26.09.2006, 21:09 -0400 schrieb Laszlo Pandy: > > Mostly I just want to know why=20 > > we use need to use POTFILES.in and not just run the translations merge=20 > > on all *.py files? >=20 > I took a look at Michael's gnome-app-install and together with him > applied the changes to jokosher. Using POTFILES.in is the canonical way > of dealing with translations - you will find it in other projects as > well. >=20 > I CCed Michael, I'm sure he has some *clever* reply. :-) It is there to have intltool-update working. I personally like it a lot (stuff like --maintain or --report). But of course the current makefile is fine as well if you don't need intltool-update. It can be a bit anoyning to use POTFILES.in because one needs to remember to add new files to it. The beste solution would be if the setuptools would grow gettext support one day. =20 > > Also what happened to these two lines which grab translation template=20 > > strings from the glade file and the instrument files?: > >=20 > > python i18nReadInstr.py ../../Instruments/*.instr > i18n.instr.h > > xgettext -k_ -kN_ -o $@ ../../Jokosher.glade.h ../../*.py i18n.instr.h >=20 > I'm not sure - it's been a while since I looked at it - wouldn't it > suffice to add them to POTFILES.in? [..] The format that is used in jokosher is apparently not compatible with the way that intltool expects ini files. It expects input like e.g. cello.instr.in:=20 [core] _name =3D Cello icon =3D cello.png type =3D cello and will write out: cello.instr [core] name =3D Cello name[en] =3D Cello icon =3D cello.png type =3D cello So with the current way that a instr file looks like this won't work and the proposed patch needs to be reverted for this. Changing the format to something like the above may mean that code that parses desktop files can be (re-)used easily to read instr files and that intltool and can be used to scan the instr files without the need for a custom script. So it may be a win to consider that format. But I know too little about the instr format to see what drawbacks such a change might have. Cheers, Michael --=20 Linux is not The Answer. Yes is the answer. Linux is The Question. - Neo --=-zXDHbauYfqOyckl0HoFq-- --=-xWec4Tj31yJiVr6qK8b/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBFL6XGr3O2CKlAUK8RAqbnAJ40HfOTL5/rhbIfZ7dOpQpRRKAEpgCfY+Ng +0m6IXIGP7q5ZGQpjDuP2FE= =tpj5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-xWec4Tj31yJiVr6qK8b/-- From sir.mvo@gmx.de Fri Oct 13 10:35:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D440A3B008F for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15445-05 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:35:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 001143B00AA for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:35:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Oct 2006 14:35:45 -0000 Received: from pD951E681.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO top.ping.de) [217.81.230.129] by mail.gmx.net (mp038) with SMTP; 13 Oct 2006 16:35:45 +0200 X-Authenticated: #18895133 Received: by top.ping.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3FCDA14010D; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:35:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:35:42 +0200 From: Michael Vogt To: Daniel Holbach Message-ID: <20061013143541.GV6521@top.ping.de> References: <364d303b0609260423n31d4c921p323907edd1337d2a@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0609260440j70e18792o6cd33bcfc2904558@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0609260441y27c4ff3ak60f88ef2c3c66397@mail.gmail.com> <1159275302.4995.3.camel@localhost> <4519CF31.1050309@gmail.com> <1159343307.16477.6.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1159343307.16477.6.camel@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.465 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.465 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:04:35 -0400 Cc: Jokosher Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Moving icons X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:35:53 -0000 On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 09:48:27AM +0200, Daniel Holbach wrote: > Hello Laszlo, Hi, sorry for my late reply, the mail somehow slipped under my radar. Thanks to Daniel for reminding me about it :) > thanks for taking the time to reply and figure it out. > > Am Dienstag, den 26.09.2006, 21:09 -0400 schrieb Laszlo Pandy: > > Mostly I just want to know why > > we use need to use POTFILES.in and not just run the translations merge > > on all *.py files? > > I took a look at Michael's gnome-app-install and together with him > applied the changes to jokosher. Using POTFILES.in is the canonical way > of dealing with translations - you will find it in other projects as > well. > > I CCed Michael, I'm sure he has some *clever* reply. :-) It is there to have intltool-update working. I personally like it a lot (stuff like --maintain or --report). But of course the current makefile is fine as well if you don't need intltool-update. It can be a bit anoyning to use POTFILES.in because one needs to remember to add new files to it. The beste solution would be if the setuptools would grow gettext support one day. > > Also what happened to these two lines which grab translation template > > strings from the glade file and the instrument files?: > > > > python i18nReadInstr.py ../../Instruments/*.instr > i18n.instr.h > > xgettext -k_ -kN_ -o $@ ../../Jokosher.glade.h ../../*.py i18n.instr.h > > I'm not sure - it's been a while since I looked at it - wouldn't it > suffice to add them to POTFILES.in? [..] The format that is used in jokosher is apparently not compatible with the way that intltool expects ini files. It expects input like e.g. cello.instr.in: [core] _name = Cello icon = cello.png type = cello and will write out: cello.instr [core] name = Cello name[en] = Cello icon = cello.png type = cello So with the current way that a instr file looks like this won't work and the proposed patch needs to be reverted for this. Changing the format to something like the above may mean that code that parses desktop files can be (re-)used easily to read instr files and that intltool and can be used to scan the instr files without the need for a custom script. So it may be a win to consider that format. But I know too little about the instr format to see what drawbacks such a change might have. Cheers, Michael -- Linux is not The Answer. Yes is the answer. Linux is The Question. - Neo From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Sun Oct 15 03:58:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19AFB3B0008 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 03:58:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28572-07 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 03:58:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA4E3B016C for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 03:58:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1778287nfa for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.126.19 with SMTP id y19mr773849buc; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610150057k4cf8c31bt97a89bbdcddb03a8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 08:57:27 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Jokosher Devel List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 885e8fd3a8dd85aa X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.421 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.021, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.421 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Running J X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 07:58:11 -0000 While I appreciate and completely agree with the idea that running Jokosher needs to be trivial for users and you don't optimise this for developers, the line I need to now use to run my uninstalled Jokosher checkout is JOKOSHER_DATA_PATH=Jokosher JOKOSHER_IMAGE_PATH=images PYTHONPATH=. Jokosher/Jokosher --debug it's been getting steadily more complicated over time. Does it really have to be this hard? It makes it difficult for new hackers to get involved; as I said above, I understand completely that that's not who you optimise for, but isn't it possible to do both? sil -- If hard data were the filtering criterion you could fit the entire contents of the Internet on a floppy disk. -- Cecil Adams From john@thegreens.co.uk Sun Oct 15 06:14:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADD23B0164 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 06:14:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21072-03 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 06:14:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.142]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A7A803B0131 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 06:14:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 85016 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2006 10:14:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Oct 2006 10:14:16 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 143EC77E85; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:14:16 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:14:15 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061015101415.GA15969@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4c91566f0610150057k4cf8c31bt97a89bbdcddb03a8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610150057k4cf8c31bt97a89bbdcddb03a8@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.093 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.977, BAYES_40=-0.185, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -0.093 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Running J X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:14:19 -0000 On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 08:57:27AM +0100, Stuart Langridge wrote: > developers, the line I need to now use to run my uninstalled Jokosher > checkout is > > JOKOSHER_DATA_PATH=Jokosher JOKOSHER_IMAGE_PATH=images PYTHONPATH=. > Jokosher/Jokosher --debug > I run from the path with the Jokosher script in and that's just ./Jokosher possibly with a -d after it. That's quite straightforward I think -- John Green From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Sun Oct 15 07:43:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E0B3B00B7 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 07:43:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24993-08 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 07:43:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BB63B0008 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 07:43:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1817414nfa for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 04:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.129.8 with SMTP id b8mr789898bud; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 04:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 04:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610150443k2af54da3nef70b539988b4782@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:43:02 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20061015101415.GA15969@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4c91566f0610150057k4cf8c31bt97a89bbdcddb03a8@mail.gmail.com> <20061015101415.GA15969@localhost.localdomain> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6dbf139c1c18709c X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.676 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.765, BAYES_05=-1.11, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.676 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Running J X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:43:06 -0000 > I run from the path with the Jokosher script in and that's just > > ./Jokosher > > possibly with a -d after it. That's quite straightforward I think Hmph. I'm sure that didn't used to work :) si "ok, ok, I'm an idiot" l -- If God didn't want us to eat meat, then he wouldn't have invented the hamburger, would he? Logic. -- Bevier, alt.fan.eddings From joe@fatnsoft.com Sun Oct 15 22:09:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC4C3B008D for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:09:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32671-01 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:09:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apollo.arandomserver.com (32.d2.5546.static.theplanet.com [70.85.210.50]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05DA3B0087 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:09:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fatnsoft by apollo.arandomserver.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1GZHvF-0002JI-Ei for jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:09:45 -0400 Received: from 127.0.0.1 ([127.0.0.1]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user joe@fatnsoft.com) by tennies.us with HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:09:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37832.127.0.0.1.1160964585.squirrel@tennies.us> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:09:45 -0400 (EDT) From: joe@fatnsoft.com To: "Jokosher Mailing List" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;boundary="----=_20061015220945_89582" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - apollo.arandomserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32725 500] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - fatnsoft.com X-Source: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php /usr/local/cpanel/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src/compose.php X-Source-Dir: :/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.503 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, NO_REAL_NAME=0.961] X-Spam-Score: -1.503 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] [Fwd: Patches for GNOME Audio Profiles] X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:09:41 -0000 ------=_20061015220945_89582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Patches for GNOME Audio Profiles From: joe@fatnsoft.com Date: Sun, October 15, 2006 9:29 pm To: jokosher-devel-list-request@gnome.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------- update_api.diff includes the fixes to be able to add export types. GNOMEAudioProfiles.py is an extension to add the GNOME Audio Profiles to the export types ------=_20061015220945_89582 Content-Type: text/x-patch; name="update_api.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="update_api.diff" Index: Jokosher/Extension.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/Extension.py (revision 808) +++ Jokosher/Extension.py (working copy) @@ -459,7 +459,7 @@ if not description or not extension and not pipelineString: return 1 try: - bin = gst.gst_parse_bin_from_description(encodeBin) + bin = gst.gst_parse_bin_from_description("fakesrc ! " + encodeBin, True) del bin except gobject.GError: return 2 ------=_20061015220945_89582 Content-Type: text/x-python; name="GNOMEAudioProfiles.py" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="GNOMEAudioProfiles.py" # GNOMEAudioProfiles.py # -------------------- # This extension is for adding the GNOME Audio Profiles into Jokosher import Jokosher.Extension import gconf import traceback EXTENSION_NAME = "GNOME Audio Profiles" EXTENSION_DESCRIPTION = "Imports GNOME Audio Profiles into jokosher" EXTENSION_VERSION = "0.0.1" _GCONF_PROFILE_PATH = "/system/gstreamer/0.10/audio/profiles/" _GCONF_PROFILE_LIST_PATH = "/system/gstreamer/0.10/audio/global/profile_list" def startup(api): _GCONF = gconf.client_get_default() profiles = _GCONF.get_list(_GCONF_PROFILE_LIST_PATH, 1) print profiles for name in profiles: if (_GCONF.get_bool(_GCONF_PROFILE_PATH + name + "/active")): description = _GCONF.get_string(_GCONF_PROFILE_PATH + name + "/name") + " (GNOME Audio Profile)" extension = _GCONF.get_string(_GCONF_PROFILE_PATH + name + "/extension") encodeBin = _GCONF.get_string(_GCONF_PROFILE_PATH + name + "/pipeline") error = api.add_export_format(description, extension, encodeBin) ------=_20061015220945_89582-- From joe@fatnsoft.com Sun Oct 15 23:42:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7623B006E for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:42:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03168-07 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:42:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apollo.arandomserver.com (32.d2.5546.static.theplanet.com [70.85.210.50]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372543B0092 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:42:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fatnsoft by apollo.arandomserver.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1GZJMt-00069t-7B for jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:42:23 -0400 Received: from 127.0.0.1 ([127.0.0.1]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user joe@fatnsoft.com) by tennies.us with HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:42:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <40559.127.0.0.1.1160970143.squirrel@tennies.us> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:42:23 -0400 (EDT) From: joe@fatnsoft.com To: "Jokosher Mailing List" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;boundary="----=_20061015234223_18900" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - apollo.arandomserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32725 500] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - fatnsoft.com X-Source: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php /usr/local/cpanel/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src/compose.php X-Source-Dir: :/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.503 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, NO_REAL_NAME=0.961] X-Spam-Score: -1.503 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Patches for GNOME Audio Profiles and Extensions API X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:42:21 -0000 ------=_20061015234223_18900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit One patch removes a debugging print from GNOME Audio Profiles.py. The other adds and uses a decorator around the exported functions. The decorator does not allow exceptions to pass beyond the Jokosher API and returns a -1 error code instead. I have 2 patches as I checked out Jokosher and the extensions at different times and places. ------=_20061015234223_18900 Content-Type: text/x-patch; name="remove_print.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="remove_print.diff" Index: GNOMEAudioProfiles.py =================================================================== --- GNOMEAudioProfiles.py (revision 812) +++ GNOMEAudioProfiles.py (working copy) @@ -8,14 +8,13 @@ EXTENSION_NAME = "GNOME Audio Profiles" EXTENSION_DESCRIPTION = "Imports GNOME Audio Profiles into jokosher" -EXTENSION_VERSION = "0.0.1" +EXTENSION_VERSION = "0.0.2" _GCONF_PROFILE_PATH = "/system/gstreamer/0.10/audio/profiles/" _GCONF_PROFILE_LIST_PATH = "/system/gstreamer/0.10/audio/global/profile_list" def startup(api): _GCONF = gconf.client_get_default() profiles = _GCONF.get_list(_GCONF_PROFILE_LIST_PATH, 1) - print profiles for name in profiles: if (_GCONF.get_bool(_GCONF_PROFILE_PATH + name + "/active")): description = _GCONF.get_string(_GCONF_PROFILE_PATH + name + "/name") + " (.%s)" ------=_20061015234223_18900 Content-Type: text/x-patch; name="update_api.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="update_api.diff" Index: Jokosher/Extension.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/Extension.py (revision 808) +++ Jokosher/Extension.py (working copy) @@ -459,7 +459,7 @@ if not description or not extension and not pipelineString: return 1 try: - bin = gst.gst_parse_bin_from_description(encodeBin) + bin = gst.gst_parse_bin_from_description("fakesrc ! " + encodeBin, True) del bin except gobject.GError: return 2 ------=_20061015234223_18900-- From laszlok2@gmail.com Mon Oct 16 00:13:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D443B00B9 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:13:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04146-09 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:13:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B453B00DE for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:13:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id x66so2074539pye for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.234.2 with SMTP id l2mr9237160qbr; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:13:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id f18sm8497146qba.2006.10.15.21.13.09; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:13:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <453306D0.8090003@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:13:04 -0400 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: joe@fatnsoft.com References: <40559.127.0.0.1.1160970143.squirrel@tennies.us> In-Reply-To: <40559.127.0.0.1.1160970143.squirrel@tennies.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Mailing List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Patches for GNOME Audio Profiles and Extensions API X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:13:22 -0000 joe@fatnsoft.com wrote: > One patch removes a debugging print from GNOME Audio Profiles.py. The > other adds and uses a decorator around the exported functions. Okay, just next time remember to do that you before you sumbit the patch. The > decorator does not allow exceptions to pass beyond the Jokosher API and > returns a -1 error code instead. You seem to have attached the wrong patch. This one has already been commited: > > Index: Jokosher/Extension.py > =================================================================== > --- Jokosher/Extension.py (revision 808) > +++ Jokosher/Extension.py (working copy) > @@ -459,7 +459,7 @@ > if not description or not extension and not pipelineString: > return 1 > try: > - bin = gst.gst_parse_bin_from_description(encodeBin) > + bin = gst.gst_parse_bin_from_description("fakesrc ! " + encodeBin, True) > del bin > except gobject.GError: > return 2 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list From joe@fatnsoft.com Mon Oct 16 01:41:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673A33B008D for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:41:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07624-03 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:41:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apollo.arandomserver.com (32.d2.5546.static.theplanet.com [70.85.210.50]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8063B00A6 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:41:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fatnsoft by apollo.arandomserver.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1GZLES-0005uk-Kk; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:41:48 -0400 Received: from 127.0.0.1 ([127.0.0.1]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user joe@fatnsoft.com) by tennies.us with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:41:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <44629.127.0.0.1.1160977308.squirrel@tennies.us> In-Reply-To: <453306D0.8090003@gmail.com> References: <40559.127.0.0.1.1160970143.squirrel@tennies.us> <453306D0.8090003@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:41:48 -0400 (EDT) From: joe@fatnsoft.com To: "Laszlo Pandy" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;boundary="----=_20061016014148_48220" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - apollo.arandomserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32725 500] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - fatnsoft.com X-Source: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php /usr/local/cpanel/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src/compose.php X-Source-Dir: :/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.465 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.038, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, NO_REAL_NAME=0.961, TW_SV=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -1.465 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Mailing List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Patches for GNOME Audio Profiles and Extensions API X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:41:44 -0000 ------=_20061016014148_48220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sorry. Didn't do a svn update before doing the svn diff. Now attached is a patch against current svn version > joe@fatnsoft.com wrote: >> One patch removes a debugging print from GNOME Audio Profiles.py. The >> other adds and uses a decorator around the exported functions. > > Okay, just next time remember to do that you before you sumbit the patch. > > The >> decorator does not allow exceptions to pass beyond the Jokosher API and >> returns a -1 error code instead. > > You seem to have attached the wrong patch. > This one has already been commited: > >> >> Index: Jokosher/Extension.py >> =================================================================== >> --- Jokosher/Extension.py (revision 808) >> +++ Jokosher/Extension.py (working copy) >> @@ -459,7 +459,7 @@ >> if not description or not extension and not pipelineString: >> return 1 >> try: >> - bin = gst.gst_parse_bin_from_description(encodeBin) >> + bin = gst.gst_parse_bin_from_description("fakesrc ! " + encodeBin, >> True) >> del bin >> except gobject.GError: >> return 2 >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> jokosher-devel-list mailing list >> jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > > ------=_20061016014148_48220 Content-Type: text/x-patch; name="update_api.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="update_api.diff" Index: Jokosher/Extension.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/Extension.py (revision 808) +++ Jokosher/Extension.py (working copy) @@ -459,7 +459,7 @@ if not description or not extension and not pipelineString: return 1 try: - bin = gst.gst_parse_bin_from_description(encodeBin) + bin = gst.gst_parse_bin_from_description("fakesrc ! " + encodeBin, True) del bin except gobject.GError: return 2 ------=_20061016014148_48220-- From joe@fatnsoft.com Mon Oct 16 02:34:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37A83B0077 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:34:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09702-04 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:34:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apollo.arandomserver.com (32.d2.5546.static.theplanet.com [70.85.210.50]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3F13B00C1 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:34:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fatnsoft by apollo.arandomserver.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1GZM3s-0003nB-SO for jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:34:56 -0400 Received: from 127.0.0.1 ([127.0.0.1]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user joe@fatnsoft.com) by tennies.us with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:34:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <46153.127.0.0.1.1160980496.squirrel@tennies.us> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:34:56 -0400 (EDT) From: joe@fatnsoft.com To: "Jokosher Mailing List" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;boundary="----=_20061016023456_61462" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - apollo.arandomserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32725 500] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - fatnsoft.com X-Source: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php /usr/local/cpanel/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src/compose.php X-Source-Dir: :/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.495 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, NO_REAL_NAME=0.961] X-Spam-Score: -1.495 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Updated Extension patch X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:34:54 -0000 ------=_20061016023456_61462 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This contains 2 changes over the previous Extension patch. First, the decorator now sets the name, which keeps the API console happy when doing a dir. Second, Extensions will no longer load if they don't have a name, description, and version. NOTE: This breaks Aq's FreeSound Extension (should just need to set those variables). This keeps extensions from being loaded but not appearing in the Extension Manager. ------=_20061016023456_61462 Content-Type: text/x-patch; name="Extension.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Extension.diff" Index: Jokosher/Extension.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/Extension.py (revision 813) +++ Jokosher/Extension.py (working copy) @@ -3,6 +3,7 @@ import os, gtk, imp, pickle, Globals, pkg_resources import gettext +import traceback _ = gettext.gettext @@ -82,10 +83,29 @@ import ConfigParser import gst, gobject +def exported_function(f): + """ + Wraps any exported functions so that exceptions do not cross the exported API. + Any exceptions caught by this should be a return error code from exported function. + """ + def wrapped(*args, **kwargs): + try: + result = f(*args, **kwargs) + return result + except: + Globals.debug("EXPORTED API BUG:\nUnhandled exception thrown in exported function: " + + f.func_name + "\n" + traceback.format_exc()) + return -1 + wrapped.__doc__ = f.__doc__ + "\n-1: Unhandled exception (bug) in Jokosher" + wrapped.__name__ = f.func_name + return wrapped + class ExtensionAPI: + def __init__(self, mainapp): self.mainapp = mainapp - + + @exported_function def add_menu_item(self, menu_item_name, callback_function): """ Adds a menu item to a Jokosher extension menu. @@ -95,6 +115,7 @@ new_menu_item.connect("activate", callback_function) extensions_menu.prepend(new_menu_item) + @exported_function def play(self, play_state=True): """ If play_state is True, it will play the project from the beginning. @@ -105,14 +126,16 @@ if play_state: #Commence playing self.mainapp.Play() - + + @exported_function def stop(self): """ Stops the project if it is currently playing. Same as play(play_state=False) """ self.mainapp.Stop() - + + @exported_function def add_file_to_selected_instrument(self, uri, position=0): """ Creates a new event from the file at the given URI and @@ -136,6 +159,7 @@ #TODO: find out if the add failed and return 1 return 0 + @exported_function def add_file_to_instrument(self, instr_id, uri, position=0): """ Creates a new event from the file at the given URI and @@ -153,6 +177,7 @@ return 2 + @exported_function def list_available_instrument_types(self): """ Returns a list of tuples in the format: @@ -163,6 +188,7 @@ """ return [(x[0], x[1], x[2].copy()) for x in Globals.getCachedInstruments()] + @exported_function def add_instrument(self, instr_type, instr_name=None): """ Adds an instrument with the type 'instr_type' and @@ -185,6 +211,7 @@ return instr_index return -1 + @exported_function def list_project_instruments(self): """ Returns a list of tuples in the format: @@ -193,6 +220,7 @@ """ return [(instr.id, instr.name, instr.instrType, instr.pixbuf.copy()) for instr in self.mainapp.project.instruments] + @exported_function def delete_instrument(self, instrumentID): """ Removes the instrument with the ID @@ -221,6 +249,7 @@ config_dict_fn = os.path.join(CONFIGPATH,mycaller + ".config") return os.path.normpath(config_dict_fn) + @exported_function def get_config_value(self, key): """ Returns the config value saved under this key, @@ -237,6 +266,7 @@ except: return None + @exported_function def set_config_value(self, key, value): """ Sets a new config value under key for later retrieval. @@ -255,6 +285,7 @@ pickle.dump(config_dict, fp) fp.close() + @exported_function def set_instrument_volume(self, instr_id, instr_volume): """ Sets the volume of instrument with id 'instr_id' @@ -270,6 +301,7 @@ return 0 return 1 + @exported_function def get_instrument_volume(self, instr_id): """ returns the lever of instrument with id 'instr_id' @@ -283,6 +315,7 @@ return instr.volume return 1 + @exported_function def toggle_mute_instrument(self, instr_id): """ mutes the instrument with id 'instr_id' @@ -300,6 +333,7 @@ #My Nan and Pop from Newfoundland aren't quite this bad, but they're close: #http://youtube.com/watch?v=It_0XzPVHaU + @exported_function def get_instrument_effects(self, instr_id): """ Gets the current effects applied to instrument @@ -316,6 +350,7 @@ return 1 + @exported_function def list_available_effects(self): """ returns the available LADSPA effects @@ -323,6 +358,7 @@ #return a copy so they can't append or remove items from our list return Globals.LADSPA_NAME_MAP[:] + @exported_function def add_instrument_effect(self, instr_id, effect_name): """ Adds the effect 'effect_name' to instrument @@ -345,6 +381,7 @@ return 2 return 1 + @exported_function def remove_instrument_effect(self, instr_id, effect_num): """ This function removes the effect of index 'effect_num' @@ -374,6 +411,7 @@ #TODO: function for editing existing effects + @exported_function def create_new_instrument_type(self, defaultName, typeString, imagePath): """ Creates and new instrument type in the user's @@ -441,6 +479,7 @@ return 0 + @exported_function def add_export_format(self, description, extension, encodeBin): """ Adds a new format that the use can select from @@ -491,7 +530,7 @@ try: Globals.AVAILABLE_EXTENSIONS.append((1, module.EXTENSION_NAME, module.EXTENSION_DESCRIPTION, module.EXTENSION_VERSION)) except: - pass + continue except Exception, e: Globals.debug("failed.") Globals.debug(e) @@ -527,7 +566,7 @@ try: Globals.AVAILABLE_EXTENSIONS.append((1, extension.EXTENSION_NAME, extension.EXTENSION_DESCRIPTION, extension.EXTENSION_VERSION)) except: - pass + continue try: extension.startup(API) except: ------=_20061016023456_61462-- From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Mon Oct 16 02:41:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107193B0135 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:41:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09873-09 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A363B006E for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:41:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2089450nfa for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.120.15 with SMTP id s15mr880095buc; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610152341k3b71f541o69cdab9e3c22194d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:41:51 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "joe@fatnsoft.com" In-Reply-To: <37832.127.0.0.1.1160964585.squirrel@tennies.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <37832.127.0.0.1.1160964585.squirrel@tennies.us> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3d25d6b38b7b0427 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.392 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.392 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Mailing List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [Fwd: Patches for GNOME Audio Profiles] X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:41:56 -0000 On 10/16/06, joe@fatnsoft.com wrote: > GNOMEAudioProfiles.py is an extension to add the GNOME Audio Profiles to > the export types Cool. I like the sound of that; this is exactly what the Extensions API is supposed to be for, stuff like this :) sil -- Java sucks. [...] Java on TV set top boxes will suck so hard it might well inhale people from off their sofa until their heads get wedged in the card slots. --- Jon Rabone, ucam.chat From joe@fatnsoft.com Mon Oct 16 02:59:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5993B00A6 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:59:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10831-09 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:59:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apollo.arandomserver.com (32.d2.5546.static.theplanet.com [70.85.210.50]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6053E3B0087 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:59:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fatnsoft by apollo.arandomserver.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1GZMRx-0006lu-4y for jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:59:49 -0400 Received: from 127.0.0.1 ([127.0.0.1]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user joe@fatnsoft.com) by tennies.us with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:59:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <46859.127.0.0.1.1160981989.squirrel@tennies.us> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:59:49 -0400 (EDT) From: joe@fatnsoft.com To: "Jokosher Mailing List" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - apollo.arandomserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32725 500] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - fatnsoft.com X-Source: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php /usr/local/cpanel/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src/compose.php X-Source-Dir: :/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.497 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.006, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, NO_REAL_NAME=0.961] X-Spam-Score: -1.497 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Extension Change... again X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:59:44 -0000 This time I added a debug message if the name, version, or description was missing. From joe@fatnsoft.com Mon Oct 16 03:01:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB6A3B00F9 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:00:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10865-08 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:00:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apollo.arandomserver.com (32.d2.5546.static.theplanet.com [70.85.210.50]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2851A3B00EB for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:00:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fatnsoft by apollo.arandomserver.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1GZMTA-0007cY-VL for jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:01:04 -0400 Received: from 127.0.0.1 ([127.0.0.1]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user joe@fatnsoft.com) by tennies.us with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:01:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <46921.127.0.0.1.1160982064.squirrel@tennies.us> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:01:04 -0400 (EDT) From: joe@fatnsoft.com To: "Jokosher Mailing List" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;boundary="----=_20061016030104_56188" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - apollo.arandomserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32725 500] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - fatnsoft.com X-Source: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php /usr/local/cpanel/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src/compose.php X-Source-Dir: :/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.498 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.005, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, NO_REAL_NAME=0.961] X-Spam-Score: -1.498 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Now with patch X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:01:00 -0000 ------=_20061016030104_56188 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I need to sleep is what I think I'm being told. ------=_20061016030104_56188 Content-Type: text/x-patch; name="Extension.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Extension.diff" Index: Jokosher/Extension.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/Extension.py (revision 813) +++ Jokosher/Extension.py (working copy) @@ -3,6 +3,7 @@ import os, gtk, imp, pickle, Globals, pkg_resources import gettext +import traceback _ = gettext.gettext @@ -82,10 +83,29 @@ import ConfigParser import gst, gobject +def exported_function(f): + """ + Wraps any exported functions so that exceptions do not cross the exported API. + Any exceptions caught by this should be a return error code from exported function. + """ + def wrapped(*args, **kwargs): + try: + result = f(*args, **kwargs) + return result + except: + Globals.debug("EXPORTED API BUG:\nUnhandled exception thrown in exported function: " + + f.func_name + "\n" + traceback.format_exc()) + return -1 + wrapped.__doc__ = f.__doc__ + "\n-1: Unhandled exception (bug) in Jokosher" + wrapped.__name__ = f.func_name + return wrapped + class ExtensionAPI: + def __init__(self, mainapp): self.mainapp = mainapp - + + @exported_function def add_menu_item(self, menu_item_name, callback_function): """ Adds a menu item to a Jokosher extension menu. @@ -95,6 +115,7 @@ new_menu_item.connect("activate", callback_function) extensions_menu.prepend(new_menu_item) + @exported_function def play(self, play_state=True): """ If play_state is True, it will play the project from the beginning. @@ -105,14 +126,16 @@ if play_state: #Commence playing self.mainapp.Play() - + + @exported_function def stop(self): """ Stops the project if it is currently playing. Same as play(play_state=False) """ self.mainapp.Stop() - + + @exported_function def add_file_to_selected_instrument(self, uri, position=0): """ Creates a new event from the file at the given URI and @@ -136,6 +159,7 @@ #TODO: find out if the add failed and return 1 return 0 + @exported_function def add_file_to_instrument(self, instr_id, uri, position=0): """ Creates a new event from the file at the given URI and @@ -153,6 +177,7 @@ return 2 + @exported_function def list_available_instrument_types(self): """ Returns a list of tuples in the format: @@ -163,6 +188,7 @@ """ return [(x[0], x[1], x[2].copy()) for x in Globals.getCachedInstruments()] + @exported_function def add_instrument(self, instr_type, instr_name=None): """ Adds an instrument with the type 'instr_type' and @@ -185,6 +211,7 @@ return instr_index return -1 + @exported_function def list_project_instruments(self): """ Returns a list of tuples in the format: @@ -193,6 +220,7 @@ """ return [(instr.id, instr.name, instr.instrType, instr.pixbuf.copy()) for instr in self.mainapp.project.instruments] + @exported_function def delete_instrument(self, instrumentID): """ Removes the instrument with the ID @@ -221,6 +249,7 @@ config_dict_fn = os.path.join(CONFIGPATH,mycaller + ".config") return os.path.normpath(config_dict_fn) + @exported_function def get_config_value(self, key): """ Returns the config value saved under this key, @@ -237,6 +266,7 @@ except: return None + @exported_function def set_config_value(self, key, value): """ Sets a new config value under key for later retrieval. @@ -255,6 +285,7 @@ pickle.dump(config_dict, fp) fp.close() + @exported_function def set_instrument_volume(self, instr_id, instr_volume): """ Sets the volume of instrument with id 'instr_id' @@ -270,6 +301,7 @@ return 0 return 1 + @exported_function def get_instrument_volume(self, instr_id): """ returns the lever of instrument with id 'instr_id' @@ -283,6 +315,7 @@ return instr.volume return 1 + @exported_function def toggle_mute_instrument(self, instr_id): """ mutes the instrument with id 'instr_id' @@ -300,6 +333,7 @@ #My Nan and Pop from Newfoundland aren't quite this bad, but they're close: #http://youtube.com/watch?v=It_0XzPVHaU + @exported_function def get_instrument_effects(self, instr_id): """ Gets the current effects applied to instrument @@ -316,6 +350,7 @@ return 1 + @exported_function def list_available_effects(self): """ returns the available LADSPA effects @@ -323,6 +358,7 @@ #return a copy so they can't append or remove items from our list return Globals.LADSPA_NAME_MAP[:] + @exported_function def add_instrument_effect(self, instr_id, effect_name): """ Adds the effect 'effect_name' to instrument @@ -345,6 +381,7 @@ return 2 return 1 + @exported_function def remove_instrument_effect(self, instr_id, effect_num): """ This function removes the effect of index 'effect_num' @@ -374,6 +411,7 @@ #TODO: function for editing existing effects + @exported_function def create_new_instrument_type(self, defaultName, typeString, imagePath): """ Creates and new instrument type in the user's @@ -441,6 +479,7 @@ return 0 + @exported_function def add_export_format(self, description, extension, encodeBin): """ Adds a new format that the use can select from @@ -491,7 +530,8 @@ try: Globals.AVAILABLE_EXTENSIONS.append((1, module.EXTENSION_NAME, module.EXTENSION_DESCRIPTION, module.EXTENSION_VERSION)) except: - pass + Globals.debug("Extension %s: Missing name, description, and/or version" % (exten_dir + f)) + continue except Exception, e: Globals.debug("failed.") Globals.debug(e) @@ -527,7 +567,8 @@ try: Globals.AVAILABLE_EXTENSIONS.append((1, extension.EXTENSION_NAME, extension.EXTENSION_DESCRIPTION, extension.EXTENSION_VERSION)) except: - pass + Globals.debug("Extension %s: Missing name, description, and/or version" % entryPoint) + continue try: extension.startup(API) except: ------=_20061016030104_56188-- From john@thegreens.co.uk Mon Oct 16 04:51:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90DF3B00BC for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:51:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16373-06 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:51:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.200]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 151BC3B006E for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:51:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 47156 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2006 08:51:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Oct 2006 08:51:21 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C58D57801F; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:51:20 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:51:20 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061016085120.GA15484@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <46921.127.0.0.1.1160982064.squirrel@tennies.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46921.127.0.0.1.1160982064.squirrel@tennies.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.246 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.284, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.246 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Now with patch X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 08:51:24 -0000 On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 03:01:04AM -0400, joe@fatnsoft.com wrote: > I need to sleep is what I think I'm being told. Hmm. Going to have to read up on decorators. I've used them in Ruby on Rails but I didn't understand them then either. I think I just accepted them as some kind of magic. As far as the extension name and version stuff is concerned then the extension manager is in *very* early days and I have a lot of changes that aren't committed yet. There's a lot of other stuff that need to be checked when an extension is loaded (e.g. mutliple copies of an extension in different directories, multiple versions of the same extension and lots of other problems I haven't thought of yet). Rather than doing it in two different places in LoadAllExtensions() I am writing an ExtensionManager class that will handle all this sort of thing for extensions as both modules and class instances. All LoadAllExtensions() will do is call extensionManager.register(module[or extension]) and everything will happen there. So whilst this change is might be OK for now it probably won't live very long. -- John Green From laszlok2@gmail.com Mon Oct 16 09:37:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E2F3B007D for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:37:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00795-02 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:37:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.207]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B2C3B0005 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:36:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so448049nzf for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.219.1 with SMTP id w1mr10051379qbq; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id f18sm9148241qba.2006.10.16.06.36.57; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45338AF5.1050102@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:36:53 -0400 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: joe@fatnsoft.com References: <46921.127.0.0.1.1160982064.squirrel@tennies.us> In-Reply-To: <46921.127.0.0.1.1160982064.squirrel@tennies.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Mailing List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Now with patch X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:37:04 -0000 joe@fatnsoft.com wrote: > I need to sleep is what I think I'm being told. > Thanks, its been committed. One more and you'll have SVN access. :) Laszlo From joe@fatnsoft.com Mon Oct 16 09:40:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EBF13B00DF for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:40:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00774-09 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:39:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apollo.arandomserver.com (32.d2.5546.static.theplanet.com [70.85.210.50]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437603B0077 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:39:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fatnsoft by apollo.arandomserver.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1GZShA-0001be-Da for jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:39:56 -0400 Received: from 127.0.0.1 ([127.0.0.1]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user joe@fatnsoft.com) by tennies.us with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:39:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <57428.127.0.0.1.1161005996.squirrel@tennies.us> In-Reply-To: <20061016085120.GA15484@localhost.localdomain> References: <46921.127.0.0.1.1160982064.squirrel@tennies.us> <20061016085120.GA15484@localhost.localdomain> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:39:56 -0400 (EDT) From: joe@fatnsoft.com To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - apollo.arandomserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32725 500] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - fatnsoft.com X-Source: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php /usr/local/cpanel/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src/compose.php X-Source-Dir: :/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.498 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.005, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, NO_REAL_NAME=0.961] X-Spam-Score: -1.498 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Now with patch X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:40:00 -0000 The next thing that I thought would be great would be to be able to disable extensions on the fly. What I mean is that disabling the extension will undo whatever the extension did (remove menu items, remove export types, etc). It would also be nice to be able to reload the extension from inside the extension (like when GNOME Audio Properties are edited... just unload all added export types and then reload them). Obviously somethings might need to be careful about unloading (an instrument type used in the project). > On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 03:01:04AM -0400, joe@fatnsoft.com wrote: >> I need to sleep is what I think I'm being told. > > Hmm. Going to have to read up on decorators. I've used them in Ruby on > Rails > but I didn't understand them then either. I think I just accepted them as > some kind of magic. > > As far as the extension name and version stuff is concerned then the > extension manager is in *very* early days and I have a lot of changes that > aren't committed yet. There's a lot of other stuff that need to be checked > when an extension is loaded (e.g. mutliple copies of an extension in > different directories, multiple versions of the same extension and lots of > other problems I haven't thought of yet). Rather than doing it in two > different places in LoadAllExtensions() I am writing an ExtensionManager > class that will handle all this sort of thing for extensions as both > modules > and class instances. All LoadAllExtensions() will do is call > extensionManager.register(module[or extension]) and everything will happen > there. So whilst this change is might be OK for now it probably won't live > very long. > -- > John Green > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > From kelly_worth2003@yahoo.co.uk Mon Oct 16 13:12:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47DC93B0108 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:12:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13330-07 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:12:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.34]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E8C73B002C for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:12:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27451 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2006 17:12:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.100.55?) (kelly?worth2003@81.158.171.188 with login) by smtp003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Oct 2006 17:12:12 -0000 From: John Kelly To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:11:24 +0100 Message-Id: <1161018684.6074.11.camel@edgy> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.459 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS=0.291] X-Spam-Score: 1.459 X-Spam-Level: * Subject: [jokosher-devel] Interested in helping out X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:12:15 -0000 Hello everyone, My name is John Kelly and i am interested in helping out with Jokosher. I know some python and gtk. i know very little gstreamer at the moment but i will learn more as i work on jokosher. You'll find me on irc by the name jkelly2005. Regards, John Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From john@thegreens.co.uk Mon Oct 16 15:51:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136D73B01F4 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:51:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21166-02 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:51:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A4BBF3B0122 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:51:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 96796 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2006 19:51:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Oct 2006 19:51:02 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1D2B278C2B; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:51:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:51:01 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061016195101.GA30335@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <46921.127.0.0.1.1160982064.squirrel@tennies.us> <20061016085120.GA15484@localhost.localdomain> <57428.127.0.0.1.1161005996.squirrel@tennies.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <57428.127.0.0.1.1161005996.squirrel@tennies.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.261 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.269, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.261 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Now with patch X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:51:35 -0000 On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 09:39:56AM -0400, joe@fatnsoft.com wrote: > The next thing that I thought would be great would be to be able to > disable extensions on the fly. What I mean is that disabling the > extension will undo whatever the extension did (remove menu items, remove > export types, etc). I've thought this already. Whenever I install/remove an extension in Firefox and get told I have to close and re-open the app then I think 'this sucks'. The extension will probably have to provide a shutdown() or disable() function which reverses startup(). I don't know whether this should be mandatory or not, or whether J will just disable on the fly if a function is provided and tell you to shutdown/restart otherwise > It would also be nice to be able to reload the > extension from inside the extension (like when GNOME Audio Properties are > edited... just unload all added export types and then reload them). > Obviously somethings might need to be careful about unloading (an > instrument type used in the project). > sounds like your extension will need to grow a gui or at least add a menu item. Reload might be possible from within the extension manager as well as long as you can run disable() and startup() again -- John Green From jonobacon@gmail.com Tue Oct 17 18:53:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B823B00FF for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05888-08 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 657EF3B0071 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:53:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so63746ugb for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.178.5 with SMTP id a5mr10109709huf; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610171553v140acd89jb888b88f07a199e0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:53:45 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "Jokosher Devel List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.033 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-1.047, BAYES_40=-0.185, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.033 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] URGENT: Volunteers for Jokosher stand in London? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:53:47 -0000 Hi all, We have a stand for Jokosher at LinuxWorld in London on the 25th and 26th October, but we need some volunteers. I need to know if anyone can volunteer ASAP or I will need to give the stand back so someone else can have it. Please let me know ASAP if you can help! :) Jono From jonobacon@gmail.com Tue Oct 17 19:31:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22CB73B009C for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:31:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08130-04 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4C73B000B for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:31:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so525765nfa for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:31:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.127.6 with SMTP id z6mr10136110huc; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610171631u697c0300wa8dbdf4d1a5a9ed1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:31:40 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "Jokosher Devel List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.445 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.045, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.445 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Heading towards 1.0 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:31:44 -0000 Hi all, I have a chat a chat with some of you recently regarding when and how we are going to approach our 1.0 release. It is clear we want 1.0 to be a rock-solid release that is suitable for creating, recording and editing music, podcasts and whatever else. A 1.0 release not only needs a stable feature set and extensions API, but also needs our fixes in GStreamer to be stable so everything runs well. As such, I think we will want to factor the GStreamer guys into this process where possible. >From some discussions, I think we are all largely in agreement that 1.0 should include enough features to record music. 0.2 has most of these core features already in, and the following are also required for a 1.0 release: * multi-input recording (recording a number of instruments at the same time) - this will require some re-factoring of the recording engine. * a complete and stable extension API (this should mature with the 0.2 release when people start hacking on extensions). * support for multi-input LADSPA effects - currently single input effects are supported. * would be nice to have the Extension Browser in so users can browse extensions.jokosher.org and install them over the net. * would also be nice to have Live Help included - a noddy IRC client that talks to #jokosher-users on irc.freenode.net. This means users can get help from inside Jokosher - all part of the integrated experience. I talked about this with some of you on IRC and the suggestion is that we want to aim to get a final release included in Edgy+1, and this deadline date should be around February. Now, we want to have a decent release candidate process for 1.0 to get rid of bugs, so the suggested approach is that we have 1.0RC for around the beginning of Feb, and this release will certainly go into edgy+1. We can then have a month or so of bugfixing before releasing 1.0 final. This way, Edgy+1 gets a release and we also get some good feedback and bugfixes. So, lets get 0.2 finished, which will allow people to do real work with Jokosher, and then lets look at getting the polish in for 1.0. :) Jono From laszlok2@gmail.com Tue Oct 17 21:41:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837B43B00CB for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:41:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13490-07 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:41:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC29D3B0083 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:41:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id x66so151134pye for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.224.11 with SMTP id b11mr13363662qbr; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id q18sm449745qbq.2006.10.17.18.41.11; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:41:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45358636.5070600@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:41:10 -0400 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jono@jonobacon.org References: <1c3fe48e0610171631u697c0300wa8dbdf4d1a5a9ed1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1c3fe48e0610171631u697c0300wa8dbdf4d1a5a9ed1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Devel List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Heading towards 1.0 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:41:48 -0000 Jono Bacon wrote: > > I talked about this with some of you on IRC and the suggestion is that > we want to aim to get a final release included in Edgy+1, and this > deadline date should be around February. Now, we want to have a decent > release candidate process for 1.0 to get rid of bugs, so the suggested > approach is that we have 1.0RC for around the beginning of Feb, and > this release will certainly go into edgy+1. We can then have a month > or so of bugfixing before releasing 1.0 final. I would prefer not to call it 1.0RC, unless that's what it really is. It all depends on how much time there is between when the so called "RC" comes out and when the actual "1.0" comes out. See my next point below. This way, Edgy+1 gets a > release and we also get some good feedback and bugfixes. Universe freeze (the freeze we care about) for Ubuntu is about one month before the actual release of Edgy+1. So if we are planning to get feedback from all the Jokosher users apt-getting it from Edgy+1, and 1.0 is released about a month after the RC, we will be getting a lot of bug reports and feedback *after* we have already released Jokosher 1.0. I would rather call the release after 0.2, Jokosher 0.9 or Jokosher 1.0Beta, and then have more than one month between that and the actual 1.0, to allow for edgy to be released, etc. We probably shouldn't have any real features added between those two releases, but to make up for the extra time we could ship will some new cool extensions or and some little features that would risk breaking anything. Laszlo From mjpowersjr@gmail.com Wed Oct 18 02:45:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3032B3B0012 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:45:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25992-05 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:45:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.235]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDBD3B002C for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:45:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id t4so170644wxc for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.116.1 with SMTP id o1mr15431391wxc; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xps.powers.home ( [24.35.14.141]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id h34sm143658wxd.2006.10.17.23.45.34; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:45:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Powers To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:45:35 -0400 Message-Id: <1161153935.26953.13.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.541 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.541 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] The Freesound Project && ccmixter X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:45:37 -0000 Hey Jokosher hackers, I stumbled across a pretty interesting site called 'The Freesound Project', maybe some of you are familiar with this? TFSP is a on-line library of CC sound clips. They also provide a C++ library (called mootcher) that allows interfacing with their web services. Also, linked from TFSP, another interesting site called ccmixter.org. "This is a community music site featuring remixes licensed under Creative Commons, where you can listen to, sample, mash-up, or interact with music in whatever way you want." Anyway, this email is not meant as a feature request by any sorts.I just thought these websites may be of interest to you and maybe jokosher & these services could compliment each other. Anyhow, can't wait to check out jokosher. :-) The FreeSound Project http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/index.php ccMixter http://www.ccmixter.org/ -mike From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Wed Oct 18 02:51:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1F53B00A2 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:51:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26359-02 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:51:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544FF3B002C for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:51:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so714929nfa for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.139.17 with SMTP id m17mr1823679bud; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610172351w669d7440n60e88bb9f50f5d48@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:51:35 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Michael Powers" In-Reply-To: <1161153935.26953.13.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1161153935.26953.13.camel@localhost> X-Google-Sender-Auth: f7cea14fe65001b9 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.16 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-1.174, BAYES_40=-0.185, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.16 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] The Freesound Project && ccmixter X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:51:37 -0000 On 10/18/06, Michael Powers wrote: > Hey Jokosher hackers, > > I stumbled across a pretty interesting site called 'The Freesound > Project', maybe some of you are familiar with this? TFSP is a on-line > library of CC sound clips. They also provide a C++ library (called > mootcher) that allows interfacing with their web services. We already have a Jokosher Extension in development which allows musicians to search Freesound from inside Jokosher itself :) > Also, linked from TFSP, another interesting site called ccmixter.org. > "This is a community music site featuring remixes licensed under > Creative Commons, where you can listen to, sample, mash-up, or interact > with music in whatever way you want." I intend, eventually, to enlarge the Freesound Extension to search other souces of freely licenced music to make it really easy for Jokosherites to get at these things :) Thanks very much for the pointers! sil -- If cryptography is outlawed, only outlaws wifo4(F9%!98f3((hg$;'da"d;f+ From rmcw@allmail.net Wed Oct 18 04:32:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175F13B00C8 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 04:32:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31827-02 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 04:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A73D3B013E for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 04:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F4EDDB4AED; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 04:31:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 04:32:00 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: 1YEEQgYdpC6KaioLtmInZ44YE/cyQY4CHfkvwRI1/DdF 1161160320 Received: from eligeto (unknown [87.112.54.90]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9848958; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 04:31:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:31:49 +0100 From: Robert McWilliam To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061018093149.57e39963@eligeto> In-Reply-To: <1c3fe48e0610171553v140acd89jb888b88f07a199e0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1c3fe48e0610171553v140acd89jb888b88f07a199e0@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.185 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185] X-Spam-Score: -0.185 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jono@jonobacon.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] URGENT: Volunteers for Jokosher stand in London? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:32:08 -0000 On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:53:45 +0100 "Jono Bacon" wrote: > > Please let me know ASAP if you can help! :) > I meant to reply to Chris' mail, but forgot (and the compensation seems to be going up so I should maybe hold off for a while longer...). I'm going to be at LinuxWorld and can help out for a day and a bit (I want to have a wander round at some point but I'm not worried when so can do that when I'm not needed). Robert ________________________________________________________ Robert McWilliam rmcw@allmail.net www.ormiret.com Happiness is nothing more than good health and a bad memory. From john@thegreens.co.uk Wed Oct 18 05:00:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D593B0014 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:00:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00942-06 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:00:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.202]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 247FA3B007E for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:00:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7227 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2006 09:00:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp812.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Oct 2006 09:00:12 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 44D9B77F9E; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:00:10 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:00:10 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061018090009.GA19598@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <1c3fe48e0610171631u697c0300wa8dbdf4d1a5a9ed1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1c3fe48e0610171631u697c0300wa8dbdf4d1a5a9ed1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.516 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.475, BAYES_05=-1.11, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -0.516 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Heading towards 1.0 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:00:49 -0000 On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 12:31:40AM +0100, Jono Bacon wrote: > > I talked about this with some of you on IRC and the suggestion is that > we want to aim to get a final release included in Edgy+1, and this > deadline date should be around February. Now, we want to have a decent > release candidate process for 1.0 to get rid of bugs, so the suggested > approach is that we have 1.0RC for around the beginning of Feb, and > this release will certainly go into edgy+1. We can then have a month > or so of bugfixing before releasing 1.0 final. This way, Edgy+1 gets a > release and we also get some good feedback and bugfixes. I'm a little unclear on this. Do you mean the release candidate goes into edgy+1 or 1.0 final does? Edgy+1 will be about April which will be a while after our 1.0. -- John Green From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Wed Oct 18 05:16:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882B13B00B1 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:16:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02007-06 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:16:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F8A3B0079 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:16:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so764450nfa for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.127.15 with SMTP id z15mr1838255buc; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610180216n5312553dp9bb8b909c9f7d198@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:16:21 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20061018090009.GA19598@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1c3fe48e0610171631u697c0300wa8dbdf4d1a5a9ed1@mail.gmail.com> <20061018090009.GA19598@localhost.localdomain> X-Google-Sender-Auth: c030cee1d278de9d X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.328 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.072, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.328 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Heading towards 1.0 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:16:24 -0000 > I'm a little unclear on this. Do you mean the release candidate goes into > edgy+1 or 1.0 final does? Edgy+1 will be about April which will be a while > after our 1.0. Ah, that was what Laszlo meant about the universe freeze, though. The point is to get a stable and solid version of Jokosher into edgy+1, and universe freeze for that will be March, so the key point is to get something good and solid done for February so that we have the chance to fix it up during Feb itself ready to be frozen into Edgy+1. My personal thought is something like this: November: release 0.2 Nov - Feb: make all the stuff we've got rock-solid and great; write the documentation; make sure it's all good; don't add anything massively revolutionary. early Feb: release Jokosher 1.0 beta (mid-Feb: do some 1.0 release candidates, if we need to) late Feb: release Jokosher 1.0, based on any feedback from people's use of 1.0 beta early March: edgy+1 universe freezes, with Jokosher 1.0 in it mid March -> whenever: we start working on Jokosher 1.1, the uberbling release where we do all the cool ideas that we weren't allowed to do in 1.0, like Telepathy integration :) sil From laszlok2@gmail.com Wed Oct 18 20:35:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2BF3B009D for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:35:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19139-06 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.195]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B57F3B00B1 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so172512nzf for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.239.13 with SMTP id q13mr15545688qbr; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 1sm1990773qbh.2006.10.18.17.35.50; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4536C865.4040300@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:35:49 -0400 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jokosher gnome Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Very important - only use glade >= 3.0.2 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:35:55 -0000 While I was updating the translations today I noticed that many string were missing from the POT file. It turns out that in Glade-3 only GtkLabel can have the translatable="yes" property in the XML. This means translations for menu items and toolbars are getting lost. It says on the glade home page[1] that this is fixed in Glade 3.0.2 (the one in edgy). I now have to go through the XML by hand and add translatable="yes" to all the places that require it, since that is easier that trying to find all the effected strings in Glade. So please, if you have to commit a change to the glade file, you *must* use 3.0.2 or else we will lose the translations. You can get the glade 3.0.2 sources from the link below, or just use the one in edgy. Laszlo [1] http://glade.gnome.org/index.html From john@thegreens.co.uk Thu Oct 19 05:02:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B273B012D for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:02:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10293-03 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:02:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.140]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4125E3B00C1 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:02:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 79250 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2006 09:02:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2006 09:02:30 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2066F77F2F; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:02:28 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:02:26 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061019090226.GA4382@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4536C865.4040300@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4536C865.4040300@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.307 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.636, BAYES_20=-0.74, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -0.307 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Very important - only use glade >= 3.0.2 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:02:33 -0000 On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:35:49PM -0400, Laszlo Pandy wrote: > > So please, if you have to commit a change to the glade file, you *must* > use 3.0.2 or else we will lose the translations. You can get the glade > 3.0.2 sources from the link below, or just use the one in edgy. > I still seem to be using glade 2.12.1 so I suppose there was a gnome upgrade I didn't bother with at some point. Do you know if glade-2 is OK? -- John Green From chris-procter@talk21.com Thu Oct 19 05:49:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18FF83B00A1 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:49:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12876-10 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:49:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1125E3B01A4 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:49:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31353 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Oct 2006 09:49:27 -0000 Message-ID: <20061019094927.31351.qmail@web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.245.38.105] by web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:49:26 BST Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:49:26 +0100 (BST) From: chris procter To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20061018093149.57e39963@eligeto> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.026 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.994, BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708] X-Spam-Score: -0.026 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] URGENT: Volunteers for Jokosher stand in London? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:49:30 -0000 Ok so far we have, 1) Me 2) Robert 3) John Green (john is this right or has Jono "volunteered" you?) So we need: a) I think at least one more person because none of us can do all day on both days and a fourth (fifth, sixth) person will help cover the gaps. b) a working laptop to demo with (mine sadly is refusing to play audio atm which is a slight problem) c) some sort of poster or sign to tell people who we are. d) to know if we have power to keep the laptop working :) Any volunteers? Remember Jono has promised to put in a good word for you with the gods of Rock and Roll if you help out :) chris --- Robert McWilliam wrote: > On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:53:45 +0100 > "Jono Bacon" wrote: > > > > Please let me know ASAP if you can help! :) > > > > I meant to reply to Chris' mail, but forgot (and the > compensation > seems to be going up so I should maybe hold off for > a while longer...). > I'm going to be at LinuxWorld and can help out for a > day and a bit (I > want to have a wander round at some point but I'm > not worried when so > can do that when I'm not needed). > > Robert > > ________________________________________________________ > Robert McWilliam rmcw@allmail.net > www.ormiret.com > > Happiness is nothing more than good health and a bad > memory. > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From jonobacon@gmail.com Thu Oct 19 06:09:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522F23B01B0 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:09:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13820-10 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:09:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561FB3B00A0 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:09:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1233075nfa for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.204.20 with SMTP id b20mr11484668hug; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610190309m366aad0an8e552fb3578700d5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:09:07 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "chris procter" In-Reply-To: <20061019094927.31351.qmail@web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061018093149.57e39963@eligeto> <20061019094927.31351.qmail@web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.515 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.974, BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.515 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] URGENT: Volunteers for Jokosher stand in London? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:09:11 -0000 On 10/19/06, chris procter wrote: > > Ok so far we have, > 1) Me > 2) Robert > 3) John Green (john is this right or has Jono > "volunteered" you?) John volunteered a while back and I checked with him on IRC. He said he should be able to do both days if I remember right. > a) I think at least one more person because none of us > can do all day on both days and a fourth (fifth, > sixth) person will help cover the gaps. We certainly do need more volunteers where possible. Dave Morley is also planning to help as far as I know too. Dave? > b) a working laptop to demo with (mine sadly is > refusing to play audio atm which is a slight problem) > > c) some sort of poster or sign to tell people who we > are. Ihave the art here - let me know who is doing the printing and I can send it on. > d) to know if we have power to keep the laptop working > :) There will be power. :) Jono From john@thegreens.co.uk Thu Oct 19 09:44:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC083B021D for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:44:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25272-02 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:44:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 80DDC3B008A for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:44:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18601 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2006 13:44:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2006 13:44:03 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 951E977E53; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:43:56 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:43:56 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061019134356.GA6081@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <20061018093149.57e39963@eligeto> <20061019094927.31351.qmail@web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061019094927.31351.qmail@web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.039 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.922, BAYES_40=-0.185, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069, TW_GT=0.077] X-Spam-Score: 0.039 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] URGENT: Volunteers for Jokosher stand in London? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:44:10 -0000 On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 10:49:26AM +0100, chris procter wrote: > > Ok so far we have, > 1) Me > 2) Robert > 3) John Green (john is this right or has Jono > "volunteered" you?) > Yeah- I'm game. > > b) a working laptop to demo with (mine sadly is > refusing to play audio atm which is a slight problem) > I only have my wife's laptop which is a bit on the old and decrepit side. And it run's KDE not Gnome so it's KDE's gtk-like theme as opposed to the real thing. No audio inputs or mic. I can be there all day both days. -- John Green From rmcw@allmail.net Thu Oct 19 10:06:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A533B0151 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:06:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26392-10 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:06:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6938E3B01C9 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:06:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12458DB6637 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:06:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:06:14 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: 7z8sFgN4iDoWBePi1Eixpv/X7UEIHaL5uf7p1MYrdkbR 1161266774 Received: from eligeto (unknown [87.112.54.90]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33FE15A72 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:06:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:06:02 +0100 From: Robert McWilliam To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061019150602.2e28ad59@eligeto> In-Reply-To: <20061019094927.31351.qmail@web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <20061018093149.57e39963@eligeto> <20061019094927.31351.qmail@web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.648 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.463, BAYES_05=-1.11] X-Spam-Score: -0.648 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] URGENT: Volunteers for Jokosher stand in London? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:06:27 -0000 On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:49:26 +0100 (BST) chris procter wrote: > b) a working laptop to demo with (mine sadly is > refusing to play audio atm which is a slight problem) > I can bring my laptop (and the sound works, but is fairly lousy builtin). If I could get a couple of projects to have on it to demo to people that would be great. On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:09:07 +0100 "Jono Bacon" wrote: > On 10/19/06, chris procter wrote: > > c) some sort of poster or sign to tell people who we > > are. > > Ihave the art here - let me know who is doing the printing and I can > send it on. I can do printing if needed but it would be a bit of a pain to take on the plane, so if anyone traveling less could do it that would be great. Robert ________________________________________________________ Robert McWilliam rmcw@allmail.net www.ormiret.com Lottery: A tax on people who are bad at math. From jonobacon@gmail.com Thu Oct 19 12:39:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D8E3B00B8 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:39:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02541-02 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:39:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E773B0155 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:39:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so529830ugb for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:39:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.128.15 with SMTP id a15mr243873hud; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610190939gf1e2038se0d851adc49c41ee@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:39:18 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "Jokosher Devel List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_43706_6467488.1161275958347" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.29 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.749, BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.29 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher SVG Logos X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:39:26 -0000 ------=_Part_43706_6467488.1161275958347 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi all, For those you creating posters for LinuxWorld - here 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localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F1D3B0077 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:10:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13930-02 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:10:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server309.com (server309.com [216.35.196.59]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5DFF3B01E5 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:10:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20655 invoked by uid 502); 19 Oct 2006 20:10:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.102?) (81.179.70.239) by ns1.server309.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2006 20:10:41 -0000 From: Anthony Batchelor To: Jokosher Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:10:29 +0100 Message-Id: <1161288634.7271.15.camel@Pepe.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.533 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, INFO_TLD=1.273] X-Spam-Score: 0.533 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Recording from M-Audio FastTrack on Edgy X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:10:45 -0000 Hi, I've been trying to record from my M-Audio FastTrack USB sound card with J-0.1 on Edgy. I can't get any sound recorded from it. I reported this bug at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/jokosher/+bug/64702 Then I read that I probably should have asked here first. My bad. Won't happen again. I have discovered this since reporting the bug... I have also tried unplugging the sound card and I don't lose any Instrument Connections, even after restarting. The card works for recording in Audacity. But if I try recording in Jokosher, then close Jokosher, the 'Mic capture' button is checked in the volume applet. I have to uncheck it again to record in Audacity again. The following is from the bug report # Open Jokosher # Open/create a project # Add an instrument (Guitar) -- Repeat next bit for every available connection # Select Instrument Connections # Select an input # Arm the track for recording # Start recording # Play a tune # Stop Recording # No sound recorded Internal Sound card - Some Via 8235 on board thing USB Sound card - M-Audio Fast Track Any ideas? Thanks, Tony -- Anthony Batchelor From laszlok2@gmail.com Thu Oct 19 17:28:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD0B3B0076 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:28:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18456-04 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E4E13B0079 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d42so843990pyd for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.193.8 with SMTP id q8mr729860qbf; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id f16sm1399081qba.2006.10.19.14.27.58; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4537EDDB.4020006@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:27:55 -0400 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4536C865.4040300@gmail.com> <20061019090226.GA4382@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20061019090226.GA4382@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Very important - only use glade >= 3.0.2 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:28:35 -0000 John Green wrote: > On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:35:49PM -0400, Laszlo Pandy wrote: >> So please, if you have to commit a change to the glade file, you *must* >> use 3.0.2 or else we will lose the translations. You can get the glade >> 3.0.2 sources from the link below, or just use the one in edgy. >> > > I still seem to be using glade 2.12.1 so I suppose there was a gnome upgrade > I didn't bother with at some point. Actually Dapper still uses glade-2. There is a dapper deb available somewhere on the web for glade-3, but that is for 3.0.1 which contains the translation bug. Do you know if glade-2 is OK? > No gnome-2 is not okay. It uses a different format than gnome-3 which is backwards compatible, however saving it as glade-2 will result in 6000 line diffs. This was discussed on IRC and it was decided that we should stick with glade-3. Either compile 3.0.1 from source, or upgrade to edgy (which will be released next week btw). Laszlo From kerneljack@gmail.com Fri Oct 20 01:00:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6726E3B0076 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:00:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04588-10 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:00:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2740A3B002B for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:00:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1551814nfa for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.20.5 with SMTP id x5mr7330344nfi; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.241.3 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 06:00:36 +0100 From: "Khusro Jaleel" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_215353_8317366.1161320436946" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.115 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_00_10=0.795, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.115 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] URGENT: Volunteers for Jokosher stand in London? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: kerneljack@kerneljack.com List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:00:39 -0000 ------=_Part_215353_8317366.1161320436946 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi guys, I'm very new to jokosher but have known jono for a long time (on irc mostly) and so have volunteered to help you guys out on Wed. That's the only day I could get off work. I can bring along a 1.6Ghz Centrino laptop (1 gig of ram) with latest Edgy and latest jokosher built from cvs. Let me know if anything else is needed. As for the stuff to do, I really haven't used jokosher before but I'm sure I can pick it up in no time. What do you guys think I should do there? Thanks, Khusro ------=_Part_215353_8317366.1161320436946 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi guys,

I'm very new to jokosher but have known jono for a long time (on irc mostly) and so have volunteered to help you guys out on Wed. That's the only day I could get off work.

I can bring along a 1.6Ghz Centrino laptop (1 gig of ram) with latest Edgy and latest jokosher built from cvs. Let me know if anything else is needed.

As for the stuff to do, I really haven't used jokosher before but I'm sure I can pick it up in no time. What do you guys think I should do there?

Thanks,
Khusro

------=_Part_215353_8317366.1161320436946-- From davmor2@gmail.com Fri Oct 20 03:36:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E7453B00C5 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:36:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10401-04 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:36:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D5F3B007A for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:36:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so708772ugb for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.8 with SMTP id d8mr1418557ugm; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:36:28 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.014 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: 0.014 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] What's required..... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:36:30 -0000 I can bring an old Laptop in that is running Xubuntu edgy but it isn't up to much. I've asked Jono what he needs printing off so I can help out with that. I will be there wednesday only and will basically do whatever is requested. I've only used .1 but can pick up the basics of .2 quickly enough to demo it. I have a headphone/mic I can bring not what you might class as recording quality but does work. Anything else? -- Seek That Thy Might Know From jonobacon@gmail.com Fri Oct 20 04:03:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB3233B006F for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 04:03:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11767-08 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 04:03:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1553B0076 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 04:03:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so711726ugb for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.204.20 with SMTP id b20mr1518707hug; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610200103o2d5bcfa4o88d62c7dc589b25e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:03:39 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "David Morley" In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.205 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.195, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.205 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] What's required..... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:03:43 -0000 On 10/20/06, David Morley wrote: > I can bring an old Laptop in that is running Xubuntu edgy but it isn't > up to much. > I've asked Jono what he needs printing off so I can help out with that. > I will be there wednesday only and will basically do whatever is requested. > I've only used .1 but can pick up the basics of .2 quickly enough to demo it. > I have a headphone/mic I can bring not what you might class as > recording quality but does work. Dave - when mailing about stand issues, don't just mail me, mail the team. :) I would recommend you guys have the following stuff printed: * a bunch of posters with the Jokosher logo on to put up on the booth. * some small flyers to give to people that list the Jokosher details. * maybe a Jokosher fact sheet with some info and screenshots on. Jono From davmor2@gmail.com Fri Oct 20 05:11:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03D203B014A for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16024-03 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:11:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055533B00CC for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:11:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so720198ugb for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.89.5 with SMTP id r5mr1543884ugl; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610200211ib3c1767mbab0d7f95b15a15f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:11:24 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610200108m6e0cdde6red15da46ead91652@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610200103o2d5bcfa4o88d62c7dc589b25e@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200108m6e0cdde6red15da46ead91652@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Fwd: What's required..... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:11:26 -0000 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Morley Date: 20-Oct-2006 09:08 Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] What's required..... To: jono@jonobacon.org > Dave - when mailing about stand issues, don't just mail me, mail the team. :) > Realised that after with is why I did this post. :) > I would recommend you guys have the following stuff printed: > > * a bunch of posters with the Jokosher logo on to put up on the booth. Posters really need to be bigger than A4 might need pro help for that. > * some small flyers to give to people that list the Jokosher details. Have you got detail you can post me please? If it A4 size then I can do it > * maybe a Jokosher fact sheet with some info and screenshots on. Again if you have a layout and it's on A4 I can print some of thesse off. -- Seek That Thy Might Know -- Seek That Thy Might Know From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Fri Oct 20 13:26:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01953B007A for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:26:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11396-10 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:26:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37073B000C for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:26:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1757524nfa for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:26:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.230.18 with SMTP id c18mr8407864nfh; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:26:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:26:00 +0300 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: "David Morley" In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610200211ib3c1767mbab0d7f95b15a15f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610200103o2d5bcfa4o88d62c7dc589b25e@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200108m6e0cdde6red15da46ead91652@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200211ib3c1767mbab0d7f95b15a15f@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.422 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.422 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Fwd: What's required..... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:26:05 -0000 Hacked up a template for a Jokosher flyer (A4): http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher-flyer.png (source: http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher-flyer.svg) On 10/20/06, David Morley wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: David Morley > Date: 20-Oct-2006 09:08 > Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] What's required..... > To: jono@jonobacon.org > > > > Dave - when mailing about stand issues, don't just mail me, mail the team. :) > > > > Realised that after with is why I did this post. :) > > > I would recommend you guys have the following stuff printed: > > > > * a bunch of posters with the Jokosher logo on to put up on the booth. > > Posters really need to be bigger than A4 might need pro help for that. > > > * some small flyers to give to people that list the Jokosher details. > > Have you got detail you can post me please? If it A4 size then I can do it > > > * maybe a Jokosher fact sheet with some info and screenshots on. > > Again if you have a layout and it's on A4 I can print some of thesse off. > > > > > -- > Seek That Thy Might Know > > > -- > Seek That Thy Might Know > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > -- Panos Laganakos From jonobacon@gmail.com Fri Oct 20 20:35:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F3E3B0004 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:35:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01144-02 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:35:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A3933B0077 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:35:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so1691665nfc for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.150.7 with SMTP id x7mr3015208hud; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610201735tb1c3e01m1cbaddd1518dfd27@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 01:35:02 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "Panos Laganakos" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610200103o2d5bcfa4o88d62c7dc589b25e@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200108m6e0cdde6red15da46ead91652@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200211ib3c1767mbab0d7f95b15a15f@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.439 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.039, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.439 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, David Morley Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Fwd: What's required..... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 00:35:07 -0000 On 10/20/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > Hacked up a template for a Jokosher flyer (A4): > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher-flyer.png > > (source: http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher-flyer.svg) Wow! :) Jono From rmcw@allmail.net Sat Oct 21 09:30:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3563F3B00AC for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:30:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00423-07 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:30:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB603B0009 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:30:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84291DB80D2 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:30:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:30:45 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: w+ODfRviOWZUcK/G/MI8qVdZ3UIffY4vw0AZyFRNJnof 1161437444 Received: from eligeto (87.113.88.30.bbplus.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net [87.113.88.30]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76ADE162DB for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:30:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:30:32 +0100 From: Robert McWilliam To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061021143032.627d709c@eligeto> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] LinuxWorld stand X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 13:30:54 -0000 I have made an attempt at pulling together the planning from the various emails and made a wiki page: http://jokosher.python-hosting.com/wiki/LinuxWorld Chris: I wasn't sure when you were available so I haven't put you in anywhere. John: I've put you in for all day both days because you said you would be at the Expo then, remove your name for any times you want to do something else. Anyone else I've missed or put in at the wrong time? Printing - I can do the posters of the logo. - The layout Panos did for handouts is very good, any volunteers to sort out the text, add some screen shots, or print them off once they're finished? How many copies of this will we need? - Anything else we should have? A large poster of the information sheet? What/who am I forgetting? Robert ________________________________________________________ Robert McWilliam rmcw@allmail.net www.ormiret.com Klingon function calls do not have 'parameters' -- they have 'arguments' -- and they ALWAYS WIN THEM. From davmor2@gmail.com Sat Oct 21 10:21:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E923B002A for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02928-10 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FFE3B0119 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:21:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so979021ugb for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 07:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.100.17 with SMTP id c17mr3797391ugm; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 07:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 07:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610210721q3fc04033t6c46f1733d7de32d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:21:33 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: jono@jonobacon.org In-Reply-To: <1c3fe48e0610201735tb1c3e01m1cbaddd1518dfd27@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610200103o2d5bcfa4o88d62c7dc589b25e@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200108m6e0cdde6red15da46ead91652@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200211ib3c1767mbab0d7f95b15a15f@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610201735tb1c3e01m1cbaddd1518dfd27@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, Panos Laganakos Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] What's required..... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:21:35 -0000 can some screen shots be dropped into the wider grey sections if someone with the knowledge to do this could i could print a load off but i was thinking it may be worth finding out how much someone would charge to do a bulk print run On 21/10/06, Jono Bacon wrote: > On 10/20/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > > Hacked up a template for a Jokosher flyer (A4): > > > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher-flyer.png > > > > (source: http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher-flyer.svg) > > Wow! :) > > Jono > -- Seek That Thy Might Know From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Sat Oct 21 11:41:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724F33B006D for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:41:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07588-06 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:41:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378B83B0010 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:41:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2070385nfa for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.105.13 with SMTP id d13mr899276buc; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610210841m7227a9ddi2bd00bff50aca64d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:41:37 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "David Morley" In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610210721q3fc04033t6c46f1733d7de32d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610200103o2d5bcfa4o88d62c7dc589b25e@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200108m6e0cdde6red15da46ead91652@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200211ib3c1767mbab0d7f95b15a15f@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610201735tb1c3e01m1cbaddd1518dfd27@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610210721q3fc04033t6c46f1733d7de32d@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: b290bae51f1f40dc X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.332 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.068, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.332 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, jono@jonobacon.org, Panos Laganakos Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] What's required..... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:41:39 -0000 On 10/21/06, David Morley wrote: > can some screen shots be dropped into the wider grey sections if > someone with the knowledge to do this could i could print a load off > but i was thinking it may be worth finding out how much someone would > charge to do a bulk print run Hang on, hang on. The png seems to have boilerplate text in it: all the paragraphs under the headings are the same. Is that intended, or is there supposed to be more descriptive text for each paragraph? If not, then it says "concepts andlanguage" with a space missing... sil -- Also, thank you for reducing my productivity by introducing me to bash.org -- Tim From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Sat Oct 21 11:47:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B7E43B00B3 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:47:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08066-01 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:47:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC553B006D for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:47:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2071669nfa for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.90.4 with SMTP id s4mr10415600nfl; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:47:22 +0300 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: "Stuart Langridge" In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610210841m7227a9ddi2bd00bff50aca64d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610200103o2d5bcfa4o88d62c7dc589b25e@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200108m6e0cdde6red15da46ead91652@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200211ib3c1767mbab0d7f95b15a15f@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610201735tb1c3e01m1cbaddd1518dfd27@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610210721q3fc04033t6c46f1733d7de32d@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610210841m7227a9ddi2bd00bff50aca64d@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.422 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.422 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, jono@jonobacon.org, David Morley Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] What's required..... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:47:25 -0000 The PNG is just a showoff. If someone can take some screenshots and write the text I can update the SVG, or someone can do that himself, that's why I included the SVG in the first place. On 10/21/06, Stuart Langridge wrote: > On 10/21/06, David Morley wrote: > > can some screen shots be dropped into the wider grey sections if > > someone with the knowledge to do this could i could print a load off > > but i was thinking it may be worth finding out how much someone would > > charge to do a bulk print run > > Hang on, hang on. The png seems to have boilerplate text in it: all > the paragraphs under the headings are the same. Is that intended, or > is there supposed to be more descriptive text for each paragraph? If > not, then it says "concepts andlanguage" with a space missing... > > sil > > -- > Also, thank you for reducing my productivity by introducing me to > bash.org > -- Tim > -- Panos Laganakos From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Sat Oct 21 12:29:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8369D3B0009 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:29:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09597-10 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:29:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71BC33B006D for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:29:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2081920nfa for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.152.16 with SMTP id z16mr891571bud; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610210929h7c1a9bbfka57855e80bdc2988@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:29:48 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Panos Laganakos" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610200103o2d5bcfa4o88d62c7dc589b25e@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200108m6e0cdde6red15da46ead91652@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200211ib3c1767mbab0d7f95b15a15f@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610201735tb1c3e01m1cbaddd1518dfd27@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610210721q3fc04033t6c46f1733d7de32d@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610210841m7227a9ddi2bd00bff50aca64d@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 90fee02465802fec X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.334 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.066, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.334 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, jono@jonobacon.org, David Morley Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] What's required..... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:29:50 -0000 On 10/21/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > The PNG is just a showoff. > > If someone can take some screenshots and write the text I can update > the SVG, or someone can do that himself, that's why I included the SVG > in the first place. That's what I thought (and a very pretty showoff it is too!); I just wanted to confirm that before someone went and printed fifty of them ;) sil -- Medio tutissimus ibis. (You will travel safest in a middle course) -- family motto From davmor2@gmail.com Sat Oct 21 17:22:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1980C3B00B3 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:22:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24481-02 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:22:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075543B00AC for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:22:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1032563ugb for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.97.7 with SMTP id z7mr4434003ugl; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610211422ge0c483dgd7c103df2f504c55@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:22:21 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: "Stuart Langridge" In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610210929h7c1a9bbfka57855e80bdc2988@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610200103o2d5bcfa4o88d62c7dc589b25e@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200108m6e0cdde6red15da46ead91652@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200211ib3c1767mbab0d7f95b15a15f@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610201735tb1c3e01m1cbaddd1518dfd27@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610210721q3fc04033t6c46f1733d7de32d@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610210841m7227a9ddi2bd00bff50aca64d@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610210929h7c1a9bbfka57855e80bdc2988@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.541 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.541 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, jono@jonobacon.org, Panos Laganakos Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] What's required..... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:22:24 -0000 I've tried a demo print and although it looks okay the colours just aren't as viberant as they are on screen. I would like to say though that it still looks good and I think would be amazing on glossy paper. Has anyome managed to add screen shots to it yet? -- Seek That Thy Might Know From davmor2@gmail.com Sun Oct 22 06:50:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4B83B01E4 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 06:50:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09968-05 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 06:50:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB473B0159 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 06:50:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1095979ugb for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 03:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.119.13 with SMTP id w13mr5229064ugm; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 03:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 03:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610220350k6066d36cvf12caad543ca7785@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:50:50 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: "Stuart Langridge" In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610211422ge0c483dgd7c103df2f504c55@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200108m6e0cdde6red15da46ead91652@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200211ib3c1767mbab0d7f95b15a15f@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610201735tb1c3e01m1cbaddd1518dfd27@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610210721q3fc04033t6c46f1733d7de32d@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610210841m7227a9ddi2bd00bff50aca64d@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610210929h7c1a9bbfka57855e80bdc2988@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610211422ge0c483dgd7c103df2f504c55@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.541 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.541 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, jono@jonobacon.org, Panos Laganakos Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] What's required..... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 10:50:52 -0000 I've had an idea if someone can add content to the cool Jokosher flyer I will take a copy up to the uni and see how much it would cost to run off 1000 flyers and 5 A1 posters. -- Seek That Thy Might Know From davmor2@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 03:49:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127CA3B008C for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 03:49:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00938-06 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 03:49:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0138D3B0011 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 03:49:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1250639ugb for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 00:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.7 with SMTP id c7mr6773408ugi; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 00:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 00:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:49:17 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: 0.2 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:49:20 -0000 This is a plea to people who have design and typing skills. A lovely flyer was created for the Jokosher stand and I would hate for it to go to waste. I have time on my hands and can do one of three things take a filled out flyer or jpeg of it, to shop's or the University and get it printed or at least a quote. I can also take the time to print it myself. However none of this will be possible if the flyer itself is not actually filled in. Now I am a lorry driver by trade and have no idea how to edit and change the flyer so I send out a plea to those with the relevant skills please hurry and fill in the flyer so something can be done with it many thanks. Please send a copy to me then I can crack on trying to sort out getting it printed for the show Wednesday. -- Seek That Thy Might Know From rmcw@allmail.net Mon Oct 23 04:08:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1833F3B0011 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:08:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01402-10 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:08:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E143B0075 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:08:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80460DB8786 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:07:55 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: oYZTflpL82I+DNUUlSX4XvCYOBgA0s4PHVgbwqVuF+w7 1161590875 Received: from eligeto (87.112.72.104.bbplus.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net [87.112.72.104]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5931A218 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:07:41 +0100 From: Robert McWilliam To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.655 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_20=-0.74, TW_SV=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -0.655 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:08:06 -0000 On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:49:17 +0100 "David Morley" wrote: > Please send a copy to me then I can crack on trying to sort out > getting it printed for the show Wednesday. > I'm working on it at the moment (actually I got sidetracked trying to get jokosher from svn working here but I will get back to the flyer now). Should have something shortly. Robert ________________________________________________________ Robert McWilliam rmcw@allmail.net www.ormiret.com Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud, after a while you realise the pig is enjoying it. From davmor2@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 04:52:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0883B0075 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:52:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04052-02 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:52:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB053B0096 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:52:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1259446ugb for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 01:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.117.2 with SMTP id u2mr6847395ugm; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 01:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 01:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610230152j71fee863j118b3a40abffa32b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:52:18 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: "Robert McWilliam" In-Reply-To: <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.323 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_SV=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.323 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:52:21 -0000 On 23/10/06, Robert McWilliam wrote: > > I'm working on it at the moment (actually I got sidetracked trying to > get jokosher from svn working here but I will get back to the flyer > now). Should have something shortly. > > Robert Tha't fantastic. -- Seek That Thy Might Know From rmcw@allmail.net Mon Oct 23 06:46:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417A33B008C for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:46:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10594-05 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:46:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9623B0018 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:46:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B559DB8C95 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:46:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:46:19 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: 7MtnI0lUTEn4EE2qiuhGWWPCO+iTBTqQIuYGzJvl5fHw 1161600378 Received: from eligeto (87.112.72.104.bbplus.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net [87.112.72.104]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D15DED26 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:46:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:45:58 +0100 From: Robert McWilliam To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> In-Reply-To: <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.587 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.935, BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_SV=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -1.587 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:46:24 -0000 On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:07:41 +0100 Robert McWilliam wrote: > I'm working on it at the moment (actually I got sidetracked trying to > get jokosher from svn working here but I will get back to the flyer > now). Should have something shortly. > http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv2.png http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv2.svg I'm not very happy with a couple of the blocks of text, improvements to them or anything else very welcome. Also could someone please check for typos before printing, thanks. Robert ________________________________________________________ Robert McWilliam rmcw@allmail.net www.ormiret.com 31 Octal == 25 Decimal, thus 31 Oct == 25 Dec, thus Halloween == Christmas From dennis.lichtenthaeler@episode-iv.de Mon Oct 23 07:01:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DAD3B000D for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:01:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11281-02 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:01:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from basicbox3.server-home.net (basicbox3.server-home.net [195.137.212.25]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D543B0109 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:01:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [139.64.106.20] (unknown [62.225.173.228]) by basicbox3.server-home.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D31296508F1 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:01:00 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dennis_Lichtenth=E4ler?= Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:00:44 +0200 To: Jokosher gnome X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:01:08 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Am 23.10.2006 um 12:45 schrieb Robert McWilliam: > > http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv2.png > http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv2.svg > > I'm not very happy with a couple of the blocks of text, > improvements to > them or anything else very welcome. Also could someone please check > for > typos before printing, thanks. Great work! I really like the screenshots! I would have changed things myself and uploaded them but my Inkscape keeps complaining about missing linked files and I didn't want to break anything - so here it goes (_bla_ means things I'd change): * Easy to use Interface Designed from the ground up to be easy to use, Jokosher _features_ concepts and language familiar to musicians, and is a breeze to use. * Simple Editing (Nothing to change here) * Multitrack Volume Mixing With integrated visuali_z_ation and _volume controls_ for each instrument and the _entire_ project, getting volume levels right is effortless. * Import/Export Audio ... to many audio formats _such as ogg, mp3 or flac_. * Documentation _Jokosher's documentation team already producces guides and HOWTOs. The Jokosher website features forums and a wiki to help users share their tricks and experiences._ What do you think? Dennis -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFPKDhIYGOmjAGFHMRAjIpAKC69RM3536dYRbhvKf5/J7WV73uHACgg0fR Mel+k4I6p7y0cCvAsQgAsXQ= =8+ff -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jonobacon@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 07:07:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A1B23B00A7 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:07:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11697-01 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:07:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B933B000D for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:07:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1282405ugb for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.127.6 with SMTP id z6mr7105343huc; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:07:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:07:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610230407v70e3b0f1s4503aad0f24569a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:07:25 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dennis_Lichtenth=E4ler?=" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.209 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.191, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.209 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher gnome Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:07:29 -0000 On 10/23/06, Dennis Lichtenth=E4ler w= rote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Am 23.10.2006 um 12:45 schrieb Robert McWilliam: > > > > http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv2.png > > http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv2.svg > > > > I'm not very happy with a couple of the blocks of text, > > improvements to > > them or anything else very welcome. Also could someone please check > > for > > typos before printing, thanks. > > Great work! I really like the screenshots! Looks great! :) Jono From rmcw@allmail.net Mon Oct 23 07:52:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295193B00CB for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:52:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14070-05 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:52:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3470E3B01E0 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:52:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CFBFDB88D7 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:52:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:52:06 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: BaHIJSQe0R14+kmonBptW/LwCAjp0/ft5QU0iUd9VBf9 1161604325 Received: from eligeto (87.112.72.104.bbplus.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net [87.112.72.104]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C72E91A3E2 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:52:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:51:54 +0100 From: Robert McWilliam To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> In-Reply-To: References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.86 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.740, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -1.86 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:52:12 -0000 On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:00:44 +0200 Dennis Lichtenth=C3=A4ler wrote: > I would have changed things myself and uploaded them but my Inkscape =20 > keeps complaining about missing linked files and I didn't want to =20 > break anything - so here it goes (_bla_ means things I'd change): I probably haven't actually embedded the images in the file then, just links to them. Anyone know how to put the image in? > * Easy to use Interface > Designed from the ground up to be easy to use, Jokosher _features_ =20 > concepts and language familiar to musicians, and is a breeze to use. >=20 > * Simple Editing > (Nothing to change here) >=20 > * Multitrack Volume Mixing > With integrated visuali_z_ation and _volume controls_ for each =20 > instrument and the _entire_ project, getting volume levels right is =20 > effortless. >=20 > * Import/Export Audio > ... to many audio formats _such as ogg, mp3 or flac_. >=20 > * Documentation > _Jokosher's documentation team already producces guides and HOWTOs. =20 > The Jokosher website features forums and a wiki to help users share =20 > their tricks and experiences._ >=20 > What do you think? >=20 > Dennis I've put all of that in (though I'm not sure about using the American spelling of visualization): http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv4.png http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv4.svg ________________________________________________________ Robert McWilliam rmcw@allmail.net www.ormiret.com Klingon function calls do not have 'parameters' -- they have 'arguments' -- and they ALWAYS WIN THEM. From dennis.lichtenthaeler@episode-iv.de Mon Oct 23 08:12:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F223B0002 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:12:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15308-05 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:12:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from basicbox3.server-home.net (basicbox3.server-home.net [195.137.212.25]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0DA73B008C for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:12:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [139.64.106.20] (unknown [62.225.173.228]) by basicbox3.server-home.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFFBD6507CA; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:12:29 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dennis_Lichtenth=E4ler?= Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:12:25 +0200 To: Robert McWilliam X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:12:38 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Am 23.10.2006 um 13:51 schrieb Robert McWilliam: > I probably haven't actually embedded the images in the file then, just > links to them. Anyone know how to put the image in? No, sorry... > I've put all of that in (though I'm not sure about using the American > spelling of visualization): Oh, right, being German, I sometimes seem to lack the sensitivity to differenciate between the two :o) > http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv4.png > http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv4.svg Just one more bpiece of nitpicking... Should the text-boxes be vertically aligned in any way with the screenshot-bubbles? Centered perhaps? Otherwise, really great stuff. Dennis -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFPLGsIYGOmjAGFHMRApI8AJ9MhVsWY1NHdY2rWXHGTbaTVvZJ9QCfSHnY TK+qGTdSKSb1giywAJd2JOY= =0hht -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From davmor2@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 09:04:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C95E3B023A for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:04:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18368-02 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:04:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B6D3B0018 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:04:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1311689ugb for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.93.7 with SMTP id v7mr6823777ugl; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610230604t25d96e8doe79ab65d5023a163@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:04:51 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dennis_Lichtenth=E4ler?=" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.541 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.541 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Robert McWilliam , jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:04:57 -0000 Robert that's much better is this the final design then? Are we Agreeed? -- Seek That Thy Might Know From rmcw@allmail.net Mon Oct 23 09:30:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981BA3B0002 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:30:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19641-03 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3023B0004 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:30:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB278DB8CB9 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:30:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:30:12 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: tZ5UrOY6oe7CavOZTg1yYdbAUoJRU03lqafisk4l9Oe6 1161610211 Received: from eligeto (87.112.72.104.bbplus.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net [87.112.72.104]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF5FA80F for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:30:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:29:54 +0100 From: Robert McWilliam To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061023142954.3f31e9a3@eligeto> In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610230604t25d96e8doe79ab65d5023a163@mail.gmail.com> References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> <36feaa6c0610230604t25d96e8doe79ab65d5023a163@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.007 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.592, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.007 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:30:23 -0000 On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:04:51 +0100 "David Morley" wrote: > Robert that's much better is this the final design then? Are we > Agreeed? > I think we just need to decide between visualization and visualisation. What format do you want for printing (I can't seem to get an svg with the images embedded)? Also did you say you were going to print a couple of posters? Robert ________________________________________________________ Robert McWilliam rmcw@allmail.net www.ormiret.com Tell me what you need and I'll tell you how to get along without it. From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 09:36:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9623B0004 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:36:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19935-04 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:36:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B7B3B00BB for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:36:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1322253ugb for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.123.16 with SMTP id v16mr1280595buc; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610230636y5aaba1bel330a513e1d1a74b1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:36:17 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Robert McWilliam" In-Reply-To: <20061023142954.3f31e9a3@eligeto> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> <36feaa6c0610230604t25d96e8doe79ab65d5023a163@mail.gmail.com> <20061023142954.3f31e9a3@eligeto> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0d20a69c23060592 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.241 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.159, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.241 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:36:25 -0000 On 10/23/06, Robert McWilliam wrote: > I think we just need to decide between visualization and visualisation. It's for the UK Linux Expo, so I'd suggest the English spelling. sil -- Penelope Pitstop: Ohhh, it's my arch enemy, the Hooded Claw! The Hooded Claw: Who did you expect? Dick Dastardly? -- The Perils of Penelope Pitstop, "Jungle Jeopardy" From davmor2@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 09:46:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8983B006D for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:46:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20447-03 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:46:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB913B000A for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:46:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1325371ugb for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.244.10 with SMTP id r10mr7328719ugh; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610230646s9315ac7q2436562a5dc102fa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:46:14 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: "Stuart Langridge" In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610230636y5aaba1bel330a513e1d1a74b1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> <36feaa6c0610230604t25d96e8doe79ab65d5023a163@mail.gmail.com> <20061023142954.3f31e9a3@eligeto> <4c91566f0610230636y5aaba1bel330a513e1d1a74b1@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Robert McWilliam , jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:46:18 -0000 On 23/10/06, Stuart Langridge wrote: > On 10/23/06, Robert McWilliam wrote: > > I think we just need to decide between visualization and visualisation. > > It's for the UK Linux Expo, so I'd suggest the English spelling. > I'm with Aq use the English spelling I can print from any format but I will translate the png to whatever format is needed. After getting some horrifically priced quotes what I've decided on is just getting one great copy and getting copied over and over. That or I have enough Ink to print a load and everyone else do the same. How many are we realisitically going to need? Although I can't get the A1 unless I go to a shop but that I can sort out somehow. -- Seek That Thy Might Know From rmcw@allmail.net Mon Oct 23 10:27:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D5C3B0018 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:27:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22473-08 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:27:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81ABB3B000D for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:27:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A370DB7CD8 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:27:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:27:22 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: 7b+FYIg6QEHnoARAWu8A3djAfg2PLWY51/3SaJXWsQ54 1161613642 Received: from eligeto (87.112.72.104.bbplus.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net [87.112.72.104]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 382F61A80D for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:27:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:27:04 +0100 From: Robert McWilliam To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061023152704.490cde55@eligeto> In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610230646s9315ac7q2436562a5dc102fa@mail.gmail.com> References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> <36feaa6c0610230604t25d96e8doe79ab65d5023a163@mail.gmail.com> <20061023142954.3f31e9a3@eligeto> <4c91566f0610230636y5aaba1bel330a513e1d1a74b1@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610230646s9315ac7q2436562a5dc102fa@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.106 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.493, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.106 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:27:32 -0000 On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:46:14 +0100 "David Morley" wrote: > > After getting some horrifically priced quotes what I've decided on is > just getting one great copy and getting copied over and over. > > That or I have enough Ink to print a load and everyone else do the > same. > > How many are we realisitically going to need? Although I can't get > the A1 unless I go to a shop but that I can sort out somehow. > > OK: http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv5.png and a higher res version: http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv6.png I'll print out some (not sure how much paper I actually have), and let me know if you can't get posters done 'cause I can get some done at Uni tomorrow. Is there anything other than printing that we still need to sort out before Wednesday? Robert ________________________________________________________ Robert McWilliam rmcw@allmail.net www.ormiret.com "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." From john@thegreens.co.uk Mon Oct 23 11:18:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B64A63B000A for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:18:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25812-01 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:18:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.198]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CCB813B01AC for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:18:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 93201 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2006 15:18:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Oct 2006 15:18:16 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B57AD77E6A; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:18:28 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:18:25 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061023141825.GA20666@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> <36feaa6c0610230604t25d96e8doe79ab65d5023a163@mail.gmail.com> <20061023142954.3f31e9a3@eligeto> <4c91566f0610230636y5aaba1bel330a513e1d1a74b1@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610230646s9315ac7q2436562a5dc102fa@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610230646s9315ac7q2436562a5dc102fa@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.165 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.365, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.165 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:18:25 -0000 On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 02:46:14PM +0100, David Morley wrote: > > After getting some horrifically priced quotes what I've decided on is > just getting one great copy and getting copied over and over. > I remember doing a couple of thousand A3 leaflets a few years ago and not getting much change from Â150 quid so that doesn't surprise me. Does anyone know how to get a decent print from this? I tried importing the original png into OpenOffice printing that and the quality wasn't great. Maybe you can increase the DPI on the export from Inkscape. Inkscape's print is rather crude. Just a postscript conversion which loses all the transparency and so is totally unusable. On another note does anyone have any decent projects to show off? Mine tend to consist of whatever was on the radio when I pressed record. Great work though :) -- John Green From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 11:20:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F223B000D for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:20:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25985-01 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:20:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7F43B01B5 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:20:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2783937nfa for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.210.16 with SMTP id i16mr14623827nfg; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 18:20:39 +0300 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: "David Morley" In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610220350k6066d36cvf12caad543ca7785@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610200036m5fcceb96g90653ed33e08f17a@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610200211ib3c1767mbab0d7f95b15a15f@mail.gmail.com> <1c3fe48e0610201735tb1c3e01m1cbaddd1518dfd27@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610210721q3fc04033t6c46f1733d7de32d@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610210841m7227a9ddi2bd00bff50aca64d@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610210929h7c1a9bbfka57855e80bdc2988@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610211422ge0c483dgd7c103df2f504c55@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610220350k6066d36cvf12caad543ca7785@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.421 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.021, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.421 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Stuart Langridge , jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, jono@jonobacon.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] What's required..... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:20:46 -0000 Unfortunately I don't have jokosher installed. So if anyone who has 0.2 working, take some screenshots for each topic of the flyer, and send them my way. I'll add em up and put it up for David to grab. On 10/22/06, David Morley wrote: > I've had an idea if someone can add content to the cool Jokosher flyer > I will take a copy up to the uni and see how much it would cost to run > off 1000 flyers and 5 A1 posters. > > > -- > Seek That Thy Might Know > -- Panos Laganakos From davmor2@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 11:31:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DA03B01B5 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:31:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26368-07 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:31:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C083B01E3 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:30:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1356766ugb for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.93.7 with SMTP id v7mr7075298ugl; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610230830u62fef566t8d642332084e028b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:30:58 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20061023141825.GA20666@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> <36feaa6c0610230604t25d96e8doe79ab65d5023a163@mail.gmail.com> <20061023142954.3f31e9a3@eligeto> <4c91566f0610230636y5aaba1bel330a513e1d1a74b1@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610230646s9315ac7q2436562a5dc102fa@mail.gmail.com> <20061023141825.GA20666@localhost.localdomain> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:31:02 -0000 On 23/10/06, John Green wrote: > On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 02:46:14PM +0100, David Morley wrote: > > > > After getting some horrifically priced quotes what I've decided on is > > just getting one great copy and getting copied over and over. > > > I remember doing a couple of thousand A3 leaflets a few years ago and not > getting much change from =C2150 quid so that doesn't surprise me. > > Does anyone know how to get a decent print from this? I tried importing t= he > original png into OpenOffice printing that and the quality wasn't great. > Maybe you can increase the DPI on the export from Inkscape. Inkscape's pr= int > is rather crude. Just a postscript conversion which loses all the > transparency and so is totally unusable. > > On another note does anyone have any decent projects to show off? Mine te= nd > to consist of whatever was on the radio when I pressed record. > > Great work though :) > > -- > John Green > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > --=20 Seek That Thy Might Know From davmor2@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 11:33:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157333B0014 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:33:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26580-06 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:33:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98993B0075 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:33:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1357285ugb for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.97.7 with SMTP id z7mr7479284ugl; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610230833r623fbce9n2fc0e84f29df9144@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:33:08 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20061023141825.GA20666@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_67630_13885882.1161617588070" References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> <36feaa6c0610230604t25d96e8doe79ab65d5023a163@mail.gmail.com> <20061023142954.3f31e9a3@eligeto> <4c91566f0610230636y5aaba1bel330a513e1d1a74b1@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610230646s9315ac7q2436562a5dc102fa@mail.gmail.com> <20061023141825.GA20666@localhost.localdomain> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:52:16 -0400 Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:33:16 -0000 ------=_Part_67630_13885882.1161617588070 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Many apologises I hit the wrong button. 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Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119A43B00D6 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:09:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28781-04 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:09:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 773EE3B0078 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:09:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF85DB8C66 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:09:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:09:14 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: 4YRQUlmDhqytGLF+bwPrXi6nu4sPkmbhbbvzWVqRonhr 1161619429 Received: from eligeto (87.112.72.104.bbplus.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net [87.112.72.104]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDC610CED for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:03:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:03:36 +0100 From: Robert McWilliam To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061023170336.5646848c@eligeto> In-Reply-To: <20061023141825.GA20666@localhost.localdomain> References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023090741.21b8c85e@eligeto> <20061023114558.415593c2@eligeto> <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> <36feaa6c0610230604t25d96e8doe79ab65d5023a163@mail.gmail.com> <20061023142954.3f31e9a3@eligeto> <4c91566f0610230636y5aaba1bel330a513e1d1a74b1@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610230646s9315ac7q2436562a5dc102fa@mail.gmail.com> <20061023141825.GA20666@localhost.localdomain> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.176 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.423, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.176 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:09:20 -0000 On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:18:25 +0100 John Green wrote: > Does anyone know how to get a decent print from this? I tried > importing the original png into OpenOffice printing that and the > quality wasn't great. Maybe you can increase the DPI on the export > from Inkscape. Inkscape's print is rather crude. Just a postscript > conversion which loses all the transparency and so is totally > unusable. > I've uploaded a few higher resolution versions: http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv6.png (588K) http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv7.png (1.3M) http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv8.png (2.6M) http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv9.png (4.1M) http://ormiret.com/jokosher/jokosher-flyerv10.png (5.6M) I tried playing around with the various save as options that inkscape has but couldn't get anything reasonable out of it. If you want anything larger than that let me know. ________________________________________________________ Robert McWilliam rmcw@allmail.net www.ormiret.com It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can stop him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important. -- Martin Luther King Jr. From davmor2@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 15:25:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D3A3B0235 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:25:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07855-04 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:25:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B80E3B00E8 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:25:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id l31so1286990ugc for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.117.18 with SMTP id u18mr7894728ugm; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610231225n45397d4ek35eb07e635b99913@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:25:36 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: "Robert McWilliam" In-Reply-To: <20061023170336.5646848c@eligeto> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610230049x69b748e2t7e9d2372295c0590@mail.gmail.com> <20061023125154.76d52dea@eligeto> <36feaa6c0610230604t25d96e8doe79ab65d5023a163@mail.gmail.com> <20061023142954.3f31e9a3@eligeto> <4c91566f0610230636y5aaba1bel330a513e1d1a74b1@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610230646s9315ac7q2436562a5dc102fa@mail.gmail.com> <20061023141825.GA20666@localhost.localdomain> <20061023170336.5646848c@eligeto> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.911 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.911 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Please, please, please X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:25:45 -0000 For anyone struggling with the png here is the best jpeg I got for printing on a4. www.davmor2.co.uk/jokosher-flyerv8.jpeg -- Seek That Thy Might Know From kerneljack@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 15:52:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23D73B0260 for ; 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charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hmm, I would like to try printing some of these, but I really don't know how expensive this is going to be? I will find out tomorrow at my local Prontaprint and try to print out maybe 50 A4s. If it is not too expensive I will try to do more. On 10/23/06, David Morley wrote: > > For anyone struggling with the png here is the best jpeg I got for > printing on a4. > > www.davmor2.co.uk/jokosher-flyerv8.jpeg > > > -- > Seek That Thy Might Know > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > ------=_Part_275047_19691019.1161633171074 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hmm, I would like to try printing some of these, but I really don't know how expensive this is going to be? I will find out tomorrow at my local Prontaprint and try to print out maybe 50 A4s. If it is not too expensive I will try to do more.


On 10/23/06, David Morley <davmor2@gmail.com> wrote:
For anyone struggling with the png here is the best jpeg I got for
printing on a4.

www.davmor2.co.uk/jokosher-flyerv8.jpeg


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------=_Part_275047_19691019.1161633171074-- From kerneljack@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 17:42:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FC03B000B for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15693-01 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:42:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89A13B002A for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:41:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2890456nfa for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:41:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.91.6 with SMTP id t6mr15333871nfl; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.241.3 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 22:41:57 +0100 From: "Khusro Jaleel" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_278049_2073889.1161639717489" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.604 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_00_10=0.795, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.604 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] what to prepare for demo? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: kerneljack@kerneljack.com List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:42:01 -0000 ------=_Part_278049_2073889.1161639717489 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi guys, I've now got my Ubuntu Edgy laptop setup with Jokosher 0.2 and I've added a vocal and tried arming and recording. I've recorded a little bit of my voice. So I think it's working, except it's giving me a LOT of errors. If I try to add a second track, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It keeps showing a dialog with the message: "Argh! Something went wrong and a serious error occurred: GStreamer encountered a general stream error. gstbasesrc.c(1610): gst_base_src_loop (): /timeline/playbackbin/Instrument_2/gnlcomposition2/gnlsource2/audiotestsrc2: streaming task paused, reason not-linked (-1) It is recommended that you report this to the Jokosher developers or get help at http://www.jokosher.org/forums/" Anyway I'm going to read the docs now to understand what this app can do. I don't know if this is going to work stably enough on my laptop for Wednesday. I hope one of you guys can help me fix it if need be. I wanted to know how much I should learn before Wed, is a basic understanding enough? Do I have to be prepared to do a full demo? The other thing I wanted to know is what time am I supposed to get there? Do we have to get there early because we are working at the booth? Thanks, Khusro ------=_Part_278049_2073889.1161639717489 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi guys,

I've now got my Ubuntu Edgy laptop setup with Jokosher 0.2 and I've added a vocal and tried arming and recording. I've recorded a little bit of my voice. So I think it's working, except it's giving me a LOT of errors. If I try to add a second track, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It keeps showing a dialog with the message:

"Argh! Something went wrong and a serious error occurred:

GStreamer encountered a general stream error.

gstbasesrc.c(1610): gst_base_src_loop (): /timeline/playbackbin/Instrument_2/gnlcomposition2/gnlsource2/audiotestsrc2:
streaming task paused, reason not-linked (-1)

It is recommended that you report this to the Jokosher developers or get help at http://www.jokosher.org/forums/"

Anyway I'm going to read the docs now to understand what this app can do. I don't know if this is going to work stably enough on my laptop for Wednesday. I hope one of you guys can help me fix it if need be.

I wanted to know how much I should learn before Wed, is a basic understanding enough? Do I have to be prepared to do a full demo?

The other thing I wanted to know is what time am I supposed to get there? Do we have to get there early because we are working at the booth?

Thanks,
Khusro

------=_Part_278049_2073889.1161639717489-- From jonobacon@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 19:26:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A6F3B00D9 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:26:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20605-08 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:26:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.227]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6B43B0075 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:26:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i20so413147wra for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.181.13 with SMTP id d13mr8228233huf; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610231626v1726a287y7d01400055b0935e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:26:41 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: kerneljack@kerneljack.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.439 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.039, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.439 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] what to prepare for demo? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:26:45 -0000 On 10/23/06, Khusro Jaleel wrote: > Hi guys, > > I've now got my Ubuntu Edgy laptop setup with Jokosher 0.2 and I've added a > vocal and tried arming and recording. I've recorded a little bit of my > voice. So I think it's working, except it's giving me a LOT of errors. If I > try to add a second track, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It > keeps showing a dialog with the message: > > "Argh! Something went wrong and a serious error occurred: > > GStreamer encountered a general stream error. > > gstbasesrc.c(1610): gst_base_src_loop (): > /timeline/playbackbin/Instrument_2/gnlcomposition2/gnlsource2/audiotestsrc2: > streaming task paused, reason not-linked (-1) Make sure you have a *very* recent GStreamer CVS - a patch was reverted today in the CVS, so make sure CVS is from the 24th Oct. > It is recommended that you report this to the Jokosher developers or get > help at http://www.jokosher.org/forums/" Report it to this list if possible. > Anyway I'm going to read the docs now to understand what this app can do. I > don't know if this is going to work stably enough on my laptop for > Wednesday. I hope one of you guys can help me fix it if need be. Sure, we can help where possible. :) > I wanted to know how much I should learn before Wed, is a basic > understanding enough? Do I have to be prepared to do a full demo? Just learn as much as you can. Its a breeze. :) > The other thing I wanted to know is what time am I supposed to get there? Do > we have to get there early because we are working at the booth? Get there as early as you can, preferably around 8am. If anyone has any problems, mention you are an exhibitor for the Jokosher stand and ask to speak to Brian Teeman or me. Jono From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Mon Oct 23 20:08:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B22A3B0307 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:08:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23179-01 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:08:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834A53B00D7 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:08:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2929960nfa for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.123.16 with SMTP id v16mr1555706buc; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610231708p1d65120eqc6cc3889bdb9b6d2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:08:28 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: kerneljack@kerneljack.com, "Jokosher Mailing List" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: c91831481dd8ea8d X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.338 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.062, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.338 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] what to prepare for demo? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:08:32 -0000 > "Argh! Something went wrong and a serious error occurred: > > GStreamer encountered a general stream error. I'm getting this too. How up to date is your GStreamer CVS? sil -- The carrot is hiding in your coat pocket. "Don't let me be eaten!" it begs in a pathetic, orange voice. http://tinyurl.com/nvm9k From kerneljack@gmail.com Tue Oct 24 04:09:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A47C3B00BB for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:09:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10781-03 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:09:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850BB3B0004 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:09:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so123927nfa for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.3 with SMTP id g3mr674695nfj; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.241.3 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:09:05 +0100 From: "Khusro Jaleel" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4846_32657481.1161677345566" References: <4c91566f0610231708p1d65120eqc6cc3889bdb9b6d2@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.527 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_00_10=0.795, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_SV=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -1.527 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] what to prepare for demo? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: kerneljack@kerneljack.com List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:09:09 -0000 ------=_Part_4846_32657481.1161677345566 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I checked out and built GStreamer CVS last night at around 22:00 or so. However, when autogen.sh says it is *not* building some modules, I didn't go and install more stuff to make sure it builds them all, is that important? Unfortunately I can't tell you what modules these were right now, as I'm at work. One thing that I'm not clear about from those GStreamer CVS instructions: I should *never* do a 'make install' of any kind, right? Just build GStreamer and plugins inside the sources/gstreamer/head directory, run ~/bin/gst-head and then run './Jokosher' from it's svn checkout directory, right? Khusro ------=_Part_4846_32657481.1161677345566 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I checked out and built GStreamer CVS last night at around 22:00 or so. However, when autogen.sh says it is *not* building some modules, I didn't go and install more stuff to make sure it builds them all, is that important? Unfortunately I can't tell you what modules these were right now, as I'm at work.

One thing that I'm not clear about from those GStreamer CVS instructions: I should *never* do a 'make install' of any kind, right? Just build GStreamer and plugins inside the sources/gstreamer/head directory, run ~/bin/gst-head and then run './Jokosher' from it's svn checkout directory, right?

Khusro ------=_Part_4846_32657481.1161677345566-- From jonobacon@gmail.com Tue Oct 24 04:17:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED243B00B1 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:17:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11094-08 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:17:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4581C3B0004 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:17:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so126154nfa for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.204.20 with SMTP id b20mr8767132hug; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.206.3 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610240117k1991636fw1e18fbc8934f7e8f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:17:27 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: kerneljack@kerneljack.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4c91566f0610231708p1d65120eqc6cc3889bdb9b6d2@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.077, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_SV=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] what to prepare for demo? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:17:29 -0000 On 10/24/06, Khusro Jaleel wrote: > I checked out and built GStreamer CVS last night at around 22:00 or so. > However, when autogen.sh says it is *not* building some modules, I didn't go > and install more stuff to make sure it builds them all, is that important? > Unfortunately I can't tell you what modules these were right now, as I'm at > work. When it tells you to install extra stuff, it tells you for a reason. :) Yes, go and install that extra stuff to ensure it works. :) > One thing that I'm not clear about from those GStreamer CVS instructions: I > should *never* do a 'make install' of any kind, right? Just build GStreamer > and plugins inside the sources/gstreamer/head directory, run ~/bin/gst-head > and then run './Jokosher' from it's svn checkout directory, right? Thats right. :) Jono From rmcw@allmail.net Tue Oct 24 04:19:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2383B00F7 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:19:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11191-07 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:19:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CA43B00B1 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:19:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from db2.internal (db2.internal [10.202.2.12]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08349DB8AEC; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:18:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by db2.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:18:55 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: laiyEMYjTTdSV8xt4myZu6SziwEzLkdxOxJXBuzfY6Jz 1161677934 Received: from eligeto (unknown [87.112.53.115]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 445051B42D; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:18:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:18:43 +0100 From: Robert McWilliam To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061024091843.11237a8c@eligeto> In-Reply-To: References: <4c91566f0610231708p1d65120eqc6cc3889bdb9b6d2@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.191 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.331, BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_SV=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.191 X-Spam-Level: Cc: kerneljack@kerneljack.com Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] what to prepare for demo? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:19:05 -0000 On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:09:05 +0100 "Khusro Jaleel" wrote: > > One thing that I'm not clear about from those GStreamer CVS > instructions: I should *never* do a 'make install' of any kind, > right? Just build GStreamer and plugins inside the > sources/gstreamer/head directory, run ~/bin/gst-head and then run > './Jokosher' from it's svn checkout directory, right? > Right. Just remember to run jokosher from the same terminal as gst-head (it sets environment variables to point to the CVS gstreamer). Robert ________________________________________________________ Robert McWilliam rmcw@allmail.net www.ormiret.com 31.69 nHz = once a year. From jonobacon@gmail.com Tue Oct 24 04:22:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3CB3B02CF for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11505-01 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA883B02AA for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:22:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so127557nfa for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.139.1 with SMTP id m1mr8741551hud; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.206.3 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610240122s6eab8e0au5209725f9d0e2325@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:22:43 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "Jokosher gnome" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.438 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.038, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.438 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Important note for LinuxWorld people X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:22:45 -0000 Hi, If you are setting up a demo machine, make sure you check out up to Jokosher r846 - past that includes some work in progress code. :) Jono From john@thegreens.co.uk Tue Oct 24 06:34:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB32C3B0072 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 06:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18239-03 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 06:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.138]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 082A03B00BB for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 06:34:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 74532 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2006 10:34:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2006 10:34:22 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B6D8B77F31; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 11:34:21 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 11:34:21 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061024103421.GA23453@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4c91566f0610231708p1d65120eqc6cc3889bdb9b6d2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.181 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.349, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.181 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] what to prepare for demo? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:34:25 -0000 On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 09:09:05AM +0100, Khusro Jaleel wrote: > I checked out and built GStreamer CVS last night at around 22:00 or so. > However, when autogen.sh says it is *not* building some modules, I didn't go > and install more stuff to make sure it builds them all, is that important? > Unfortunately I can't tell you what modules these were right now, as I'm at > work. You don't actually need *everything*. Gstreamer handles lots video stuff as well which we don't use. I think the list of dev packages in the wiki covers most things that are revelant. Check the build for all the plugins and see that if ogg,mp3 and FLAC support is built. I'm having trouble playing with multiple sources in later CVS checkouts and I'm tring older versions. Does anyone know when this broke? Typically if I have a second track that starts a few seconds in the audio dies as soon as that starts. I know this used to work!! I set up the printer to print 50 copies before I went to bed last night. Of course the yellow ink ran out after 12 :( Why is it always the yellow that goes first? -- John Green From kerneljack@gmail.com Tue Oct 24 07:19:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDD03B00B1 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:19:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20459-03 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:19:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A763B00F7 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:19:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so174627nfa for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.19.5 with SMTP id w5mr934599nfi; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.241.3 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:19:32 +0100 From: "Khusro Jaleel" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20061024103421.GA23453@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7229_1000570.1161688772363" References: <4c91566f0610231708p1d65120eqc6cc3889bdb9b6d2@mail.gmail.com> <20061024103421.GA23453@localhost.localdomain> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.399 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] what to prepare for demo? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: kerneljack@kerneljack.com List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 11:19:36 -0000 ------=_Part_7229_1000570.1161688772363 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 10/24/06, John Green wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 09:09:05AM +0100, Khusro Jaleel wrote: > > I checked out and built GStreamer CVS last night at around 22:00 or so. > > However, when autogen.sh says it is *not* building some modules, I > didn't go > > and install more stuff to make sure it builds them all, is that > important? > > Unfortunately I can't tell you what modules these were right now, as I'm > at > > work. > > You don't actually need *everything*. Gstreamer handles lots video stuff > as > well which we don't use. I think the list of dev packages in the wiki > covers > most things that are revelant. Check the build for all the plugins and see > that if ogg,mp3 and FLAC support is built. OK, I'll check that tonight. I was also thinking the same thing, I shouldn't need to build absolutely everything, but I will try anyway as this maybe causing some issues. I'm having trouble playing with multiple sources in later CVS checkouts and > I'm tring older versions. Does anyone know when this broke? Typically if I > have a second track that starts a few seconds in the audio dies as soon as > that starts. I know this used to work!! Jono just told me to make sure that you checkout r846, *no later* as things may be broken there. He has posted this to the list as well. Khusro ------=_Part_7229_1000570.1161688772363 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 10/24/06, John Green <john@thegreens.co.uk> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 09:09:05AM +0100, Khusro Jaleel wrote:
> I checked out and built GStreamer CVS last night at around 22:00 or so.
> However, when autogen.sh says it is *not* building some modules, I didn't go
> and install more stuff to make sure it builds them all, is that important?
> Unfortunately I can't tell you what modules these were right now, as I'm at
> work.

You don't actually need *everything*. Gstreamer handles lots video stuff as
well which we don't use. I think the list of dev packages in the wiki covers
most things that are revelant. Check the build for all the plugins and see
that if ogg,mp3 and FLAC support is built.

OK, I'll check that tonight. I was also thinking the same thing, I shouldn't need to
build absolutely everything, but I will try anyway as this maybe causing some issues.

I'm having trouble playing with multiple sources in later CVS checkouts and
I'm tring older versions. Does anyone know when this broke? Typically if I
have a second track that starts a few seconds in the audio dies as soon as
that starts. I know this used to work!!

Jono just told me to make sure that you checkout r846, *no later* as things may be
broken there. He has posted this to the list as well.

Khusro
------=_Part_7229_1000570.1161688772363-- From john@thegreens.co.uk Tue Oct 24 08:54:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B545E3B00CA for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:54:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25738-09 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:54:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.139]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 411753B007E for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:54:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 57986 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2006 12:54:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2006 12:54:26 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AA1AA77F31; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:54:25 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:54:25 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061024125425.GB23453@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4c91566f0610231708p1d65120eqc6cc3889bdb9b6d2@mail.gmail.com> <20061024103421.GA23453@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.451 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.410, BAYES_05=-1.11, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -0.451 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] what to prepare for demo? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:54:31 -0000 On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 12:19:32PM +0100, Khusro Jaleel wrote: > > Jono just told me to make sure that you checkout r846, *no later* as things > may be > broken there. He has posted this to the list as well. > I was actually meaning gstreamer itself. My laptop chokes with 2 or more oggs. It actually runs fine with 2 wav files even with the latest so maybe it's a hardware thing. wav files will do for tomorrow though. Just need some *decent* content ;) -- John Green From niels.k.h@gmail.com Tue Oct 24 08:55:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D55E3B0061 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:55:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25957-08 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:55:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A348F3B007E for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:55:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so200554nfa for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 05:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.55.13 with SMTP id h13mr1092420nfk; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 05:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.101? ( [80.62.135.26]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id p45sm903578nfa.2006.10.24.05.55.40; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 05:55:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Niels =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kj=F8ller?= Hansen To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-OlV9ENlJaAlvaTwQKHYv" Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:55:45 +0200 Message-Id: <1161694545.30606.14.camel@niels-laptop.kvintus.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Fixed: Ticket #169 (No way to delete projects from welcome dialog) X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:55:53 -0000 --=-OlV9ENlJaAlvaTwQKHYv Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, This is my first patch for Jokosher, as well as any other project. I added a button below the 'Open Recent Project' and tied it up to a new function in JokosherApp.py called RemoveRecentProject I also added a self.model.clear() to PopulateRecentProjects in WelcomeDialog.py to empty it before appending the projects. It seems that my changes to Jokosher.glade has made the patch file very large. nibil on #jokosher thinks it's because the latest change was made with Glade 2. I used Glade 3.0.2. Any comments on anything remotely related to the patch are very welcome. /Niels PS: To the administrator: I accidentally posted the same message from my other e-mail address. 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( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id q19sm872092qbq.2006.10.24.08.24.51; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:24:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <453E3072.4020500@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 11:25:38 -0400 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4536C865.4040300@gmail.com> <20061019090226.GA4382@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20061019090226.GA4382@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Very important - only use glade < 3 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:24:57 -0000 On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:35:49PM -0400, Laszlo Pandy wrote: > So please, if you have to commit a change to the glade file, you *must* > use 3.0.2 or else we will lose the translations. You can get the glade > 3.0.2 sources from the link below, or just use the one in edgy. Um sorry about yanking everyone around with my policy changes, but because of some newly discovered bugs in glade-3, the glade file is going to be in glade-2 format. This means you should use glade-2 (any recent version will do) for editing the glade file at least until after 0.2 is released. Thanks Laszlo From laszlok2@gmail.com Tue Oct 24 12:06:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BDA3B0142 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:06:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05849-07 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:06:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.206]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030263B01DB for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:06:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so660430nzf for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.234.3 with SMTP id l3mr7669718qbr; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 1sm903938qbh.2006.10.24.09.06.36; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <453E3A39.9020204@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:07:21 -0400 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Niels_Kj=F8ller_Hansen?= References: <1161694545.30606.14.camel@niels-laptop.kvintus.dk> In-Reply-To: <1161694545.30606.14.camel@niels-laptop.kvintus.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Fixed: Ticket #169 (No way to delete projects from welcome dialog) X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:06:44 -0000 Niels Kjøller Hansen wrote: > Hello all, > > This is my first patch for Jokosher, as well as any other project. > > I added a button below the 'Open Recent Project' and tied it up to a new > function in JokosherApp.py called RemoveRecentProject I also added a > self.model.clear() to PopulateRecentProjects in WelcomeDialog.py to > empty it before appending the projects. > > It seems that my changes to Jokosher.glade has made the patch file very > large. nibil on #jokosher thinks it's because the latest change was made > with Glade 2. I used Glade 3.0.2. > > Any comments on anything remotely related to the patch are very welcome. > I have talked to you about this on IRC, but I just wanted to let everynoe in on the discussion. I would commit this patch (cause the code is very good) except that I don't like the big button on the welcome dialog. That dialog has enough buttons already and removing the recent project is a much less common task then opening a recent project, so it should have a smaller button, or it should be more hidden. There are several other ways to implement this. One of which is to just have a clear menu item at the bottom of the recent projects list in the file menu. Most other programs do this. That still doesn't make it possible to remove it while you are in the welcome dialog, and I haven't thought of the best way to do that yet. Laszlo From niels.k.h@gmail.com Tue Oct 24 16:18:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF4F3B0126 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23482-04 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:18:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395473B015E for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:18:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so322813nfa for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.93.13 with SMTP id v13mr1866354nfl; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.100? ( [80.160.154.238]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id l38sm1921941nfc.2006.10.24.13.18.51; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:18:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Niels =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kj=F8ller?= Hansen To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-BYRii5Za359rYZ7O7FNS" Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:18:49 +0200 Message-Id: <1161721130.5028.9.camel@niels-laptop.kvintus.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Fixed: Ticket #169 (No way to delete projects from welcome dialog) [second try] X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:18:58 -0000 --=-BYRii5Za359rYZ7O7FNS Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, Second try on this thing Removal is now done by right-clicking the project in the welcome screen. Hopefully I should be able to reuse some of the code for a 'clear list' option from the recent projects menu. Any comments on anything remotely related to the patch are still very welcome. /Niels PS: To the administrator: I accidentally posted the same message from my other e-mail address. Delete it please. --=-BYRii5Za359rYZ7O7FNS Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=remove_from_recent.diff Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=remove_from_recent.diff; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: Jokosher/Jokosher.glade =================================================================== --- Jokosher/Jokosher.glade (revision 847) +++ Jokosher/Jokosher.glade (working copy) @@ -2520,6 +2520,7 @@ False False False + @@ -4306,4 +4307,28 @@ + + + + + True + Remove from list + True + + + + + True + gtk-delete + 1 + 0.5 + 0.5 + 0 + 0 + + + + + + Index: Jokosher/WelcomeDialog.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/WelcomeDialog.py (revision 847) +++ Jokosher/WelcomeDialog.py (working copy) @@ -35,6 +35,7 @@ "on_openrecentprojectbutton_clicked" : self.OnOpenRecentProjectButton, "on_quit_clicked" : self.OnQuit, "on_startupcb_toggled" : self.OnStartupToggled, + "on_recentprojectslist_button_press_event": self.OnRecentProjectListButtonPress, } self.res.signal_autoconnect(self.signals) @@ -44,6 +45,11 @@ self.window.set_transient_for(self.mainwindow.window) self.tree = self.res.get_widget("recentprojectslist") + # get the right-click menu for the recent projects list + self.menu = gtk.glade.XML(Globals.GLADE_PATH,"RecentListMenu") + self.recentlistmenu = self.menu.get_widget("RecentListMenu") + self.menu.signal_autoconnect({"on_removefromrecent_activate": self.OnRemoveFromRecent}) + self.headerimage = self.res.get_widget("headerimage") self.headerimage.set_from_file(os.path.join(Globals.IMAGE_PATH, "welcomeheader.png")) @@ -120,6 +126,7 @@ def PopulateRecentProjects(self): '''Populate the Recent Projects menu with items from global settings''' + self.model.clear() for path, name in self.mainwindow.recentprojectitems: self.model.append([gtk.STOCK_NEW, name, path]) @@ -150,7 +157,28 @@ self.window.destroy() #_____________________________________________________________________ + + def OnRecentProjectListButtonPress(self, treeview, event): + if event.button == 3: #If the click is a right-click + x = int(event.x) + y = int(event.y) + time = event.time + pthinfo = treeview.get_path_at_pos(x, y) + if pthinfo is not None: + path, col, cellx, celly = pthinfo + treeview.grab_focus() + treeview.set_cursor(path, col, 0) + self.recentlistmenu.popup(None, None, None, event.button, time) + + #_____________________________________________________________________ + def OnRemoveFromRecent(self, widget): + """Remove the selected recent project from the list of recent projects.""" + item = self.model[self.tree.get_cursor()[0]] + self.mainwindow.RemoveRecentProject(item[2], item[1]) + self.PopulateRecentProjects() + #_____________________________________________________________________ + def OnStartupToggled(self, widget): """When the startup toggle box is toggled, this method is run to update the setting in Globals.""" Index: Jokosher/JokosherApp.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/JokosherApp.py (revision 847) +++ Jokosher/JokosherApp.py (working copy) @@ -693,6 +693,17 @@ #_____________________________________________________________________ + def RemoveRecentProject(self, path, name): + for item in self.recentprojectitems: + if path == item[0]: + self.recentprojectitems.remove(item) + break + + self.SaveRecentProjects() + self.PopulateRecentProjects() + + #_____________________________________________________________________ + def PopulateRecentProjects(self): '''Populate the Recent Projects menu with items from self.recentprojectitems''' --=-BYRii5Za359rYZ7O7FNS-- From kelly_worth2003@yahoo.co.uk Tue Oct 24 16:34:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C07C3B0004 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:34:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24973-09 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:34:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.62]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB2253B01A3 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:34:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 57301 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2006 20:34:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.100.55?) (kelly?worth2003@81.156.35.228 with login) by smtp008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2006 20:34:19 -0000 From: John Kelly To: "jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-HcfzzJXSm9tTm98FGASW" Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:33:41 +0100 Message-Id: <1161722021.19789.6.camel@edgy> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS=0.291] X-Spam-Score: -0.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Make recent projects menu inactive if there are no projects to be loaded X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:34:26 -0000 --=-HcfzzJXSm9tTm98FGASW Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Everyone, This is my first patch for jokosher. Its not much but its a start. The recent projects menu will now be inactive if there are no projects to load. John. --=-HcfzzJXSm9tTm98FGASW Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=recent_projects.diff Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=recent_projects.diff; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: JokosherApp.py =================================================================== --- JokosherApp.py (revision 847) +++ JokosherApp.py (working copy) @@ -845,7 +845,7 @@ ctrls = (self.save, self.save_as, self.close, self.addInstrumentButton, self.reverse, self.forward, self.play, self.stop, self.record, self.projectmenu, self.export, self.cut, self.copy, self.paste, - self.undo, self.redo, self.delete, + self.undo, self.redo, self.delete, self.recentprojects, RecordingToggle, CompactToggle, self.wTree.get_widget("WorkspacesLabel")) @@ -895,7 +895,7 @@ if self.tvtoolitem: self.tvtoolitem.destroy() self.tvtoolitem = None - + #_____________________________________________________________________ def OnKeyPress(self, widget, event): --=-HcfzzJXSm9tTm98FGASW-- Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From jens.geiregat@gmail.com Tue Oct 24 17:20:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F207C3B00CA for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:20:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27815-05 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:20:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.206]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F473B006D for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:20:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so707179nzf for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.95.1 with SMTP id x1mr9243149pyl; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:14:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.27.19 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:14:13 +0200 From: "Jens Geiregat" To: "Laszlo Pandy" In-Reply-To: <453E3A39.9020204@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1161694545.30606.14.camel@niels-laptop.kvintus.dk> <453E3A39.9020204@gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.394 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.006, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.394 X-Spam-Level: Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Niels_Kj=F8ller_Hansen?= , jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Fixed: Ticket #169 (No way to delete projects from welcome dialog) X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:20:09 -0000 On 10/24/06, Laszlo Pandy wrote: > Niels Kj=F8ller Hansen wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > This is my first patch for Jokosher, as well as any other project. > > > > I added a button below the 'Open Recent Project' and tied it up to a ne= w > > function in JokosherApp.py called RemoveRecentProject I also added a > > self.model.clear() to PopulateRecentProjects in WelcomeDialog.py to > > empty it before appending the projects. > > > > It seems that my changes to Jokosher.glade has made the patch file very > > large. nibil on #jokosher thinks it's because the latest change was mad= e > > with Glade 2. I used Glade 3.0.2. > > > > Any comments on anything remotely related to the patch are very welcome= . > > > > I have talked to you about this on IRC, but I just wanted to let > everynoe in on the discussion. I would commit this patch (cause the code > is very good) except that I don't like the big button on the welcome > dialog. That dialog has enough buttons already and removing the recent > project is a much less common task then opening a recent project, so it > should have a smaller button, or it should be more hidden. > > There are several other ways to implement this. One of which is to just > have a clear menu item at the bottom of the recent projects list in the > file menu. Most other programs do this. That still doesn't make it > possible to remove it while you are in the welcome dialog, and I haven't > thought of the best way to do that yet. > > Laszlo > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > How about aadding a right-click menu to each item in the Recent Projects list? Not exactly the most user friendly way to do it, but it doesn't do any bad, and some users will be gratefull. :-) Jens From laszlok2@gmail.com Tue Oct 24 18:41:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 017B33B0013 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:41:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00362-08 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.192]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7B03B000A for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so724842nzf for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.251.17 with SMTP id d17mr8347385qbs; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 1sm1513999qbh.2006.10.24.15.41.56; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <453E96E8.6080507@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:42:48 -0400 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Niels_Kj=F8ller_Hansen?= References: <1161721130.5028.9.camel@niels-laptop.kvintus.dk> In-Reply-To: <1161721130.5028.9.camel@niels-laptop.kvintus.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Fixed: Ticket #169 (No way to delete projects from welcome dialog) [second try] X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:41:59 -0000 Niels Kjøller Hansen wrote: > Hello all, > > Second try on this thing > > Removal is now done by right-clicking the project in the welcome screen. > Hopefully I should be able to reuse some of the code for a 'clear list' option from > the recent projects menu. I don't like the context menu thing. Its hidden and not very usable, but I have committed the rest of your patch along with my changes that make a extra column in the treeview with a delete icon. Clicking on that icon will remove it from the list. > > Any comments on anything remotely related to the patch are still very welcome. > Dude, in case you didn't notice, Jokosher uses tabs. Please do not mix your spaces with our tabs. > if pthinfo is not None: This is equivaluent to: if pthinfo: That's all. Thanks for the patch! :) Laszlo From mike@mikeasoft.com Wed Oct 25 04:58:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A87F3B006F for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 04:58:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26768-02 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 04:58:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bigben2.bytemark.co.uk (bigben2.bytemark.co.uk [80.68.81.132]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BAD63B000F for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 04:58:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mikeasoft.com ([80.68.92.185]) by bigben2.bytemark.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GceaO-0001Yt-6g for jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:58:08 +0000 Received: from mike by mikeasoft.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Gceh7-0004QP-00 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:05:05 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:05:05 +0100 From: Michael Sheldon To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061025090505.GA20291@mikeasoft.com> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <1161721130.5028.9.camel@niels-laptop.kvintus.dk> <453E96E8.6080507@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <453E96E8.6080507@gmail.com> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (Linux) Sender: Michael Sheldon X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.404 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.195, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.404 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Fixed: Ticket #169 (No way to delete projects from welcome dialog) [second try] X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:58:10 -0000 On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 06:42:48PM -0400, Laszlo Pandy wrote: > Dude, in case you didn't notice, Jokosher uses tabs. Please do not mix > your spaces with our tabs. On this note I'd suggest that developers should run python with the -tt option when working on Jokosher. This tells python to treat mixed tabs and spaces as errors (-t if you just want warnings). Nice work on the patch :) Cheers, Mike. -- Michael Sheldon http://www.mikeasoft.com From nickmurtagh@gmail.com Wed Oct 25 05:01:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F0C3B0014 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 05:01:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26768-09 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 05:01:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E463B002B for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 05:01:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so530499nfa for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 02:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.93.13 with SMTP id v13mr2869303nfl; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 02:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.88.7 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 02:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9768a1c60610250201u2a8e88acpd44460f90f23107e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:01:23 +0100 From: "Nick Murtagh" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <453E96E8.6080507@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1161721130.5028.9.camel@niels-laptop.kvintus.dk> <453E96E8.6080507@gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Fixed: Ticket #169 (No way to delete projects from welcome dialog) [second try] X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:01:26 -0000 On 10/24/06, Laszlo Pandy wrote: > > if pthinfo is not None: > > This is equivaluent to: > > if pthinfo: Sorry to be pedantic but: >>> a = '' >>> if a is not None: ... print 'hello' ... hello >>> if a: ... print 'hello' ... >>> From davmor2@gmail.com Thu Oct 26 11:42:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03EA3B006E for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:42:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03911-10 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:42:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A9B3B006F for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:42:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so382176ugb for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.100.17 with SMTP id c17mr3040645ugm; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610260842j1ec5140dm9009d5d99af6c0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:42:51 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.014 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: 0.014 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Interest in Jokosher X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:42:59 -0000 Everyone who came to the stall at Linux World Expo loved the look of Jokosher. So hats off to you lot, congrats. There were a load of suggestions that I'm sure someone will post as I don't have them. I think the two biggest surprises were when asked how we were going to make money (even though we were in the .org village) and how many people were there and interested in the project from schools and colleges. The day before I had been printing Jokosher flyers until my ink started to run low and at the beginning of the day we would of been happy to get rid of 10, I'd printed off somewhere in the region of 130 flyers someone else had brought along another 50 and there were 50 a5 flyers as back up, when I left the stall we had run out of my flyers and were about half way though the other 50. So if it is as busy today as it was yesterday then they will run out. If a fraction of those people contribute it will be amazing. -- Seek That Thy Might Know From john@thegreens.co.uk Thu Oct 26 14:55:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6BF23B002B for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:55:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15878-06 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:55:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.203]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 369CB3B00CC for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:55:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10329 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2006 18:55:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Oct 2006 18:55:25 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E162E77EFD; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:55:24 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:55:24 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061026185524.GA7895@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <36feaa6c0610260842j1ec5140dm9009d5d99af6c0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610260842j1ec5140dm9009d5d99af6c0@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.249 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.578, BAYES_20=-0.74, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -0.249 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Interest in Jokosher X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:55:32 -0000 On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 04:42:51PM +0100, David Morley wrote: > and were about half way though the other 50. So if it is as busy > today as it was yesterday then they will run out. If a fraction of > those people contribute it will be amazing. > We ran out about an hour before the close and resorted to hand-written URLs. We did about a dozen of those. Altogether today was not quite as busy but still the interest was really quite astonishing. People seem to really, really like the look and feel of the app. But what tends to put them off is the dependence on gstreamer CVS. That really is a quite daunting task for all but the most determined. But one day (April 2007?) 'apt-get install jokosher' *will* work and hopefully everyone who saw it over the last two days will remember. -- John Green From kerneljack@gmail.com Thu Oct 26 15:30:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9C13B0013 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:30:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18299-02 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:30:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846DA3B0142 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:30:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1094900nfa for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.254.10 with SMTP id b10mr6106396nfi; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.241.3 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:30:46 +0100 From: "Khusro Jaleel" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_19720_6454217.1161891046583" References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.811 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_10_20=1.351, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: 0.811 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: kerneljack@kerneljack.com List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:30:52 -0000 ------=_Part_19720_6454217.1161891046583 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi everyone, I want to thank all of you for welcoming me and helping me out yesterday with the Jokosher demos, I had a great time! I promise I will try my best to help out with the bug fixes when jokosher 0.2 goes into freeze in a few days. I do have an exam in a couple of weeks which I have to prepare for, but I will try. At the moment, I did notice *tons* of spelling mistakes in the Jokosher Help section on the website. I can fix those quite quickly. If I just download the page, fix the errors in HTML and upload a patch to the HTML, is that ok? Here are some of the features and other questions that people asked: - A lot of people wanted to record stuff off of the internet, such as BBC radio streams - Ability to filter out "noise", I believe this maybe possible using the Instrument Effects? - One guy asked if there are any latency issues when multiple instruments are plugged in? - VOIP recording - Export / Import from cubase? - Windows version? - Some guy asked if Jokosher was similar to EMi?? I think the website is: http://emi.thevtek.com - A few people asked if Patch Panels were supported - MIDI, a LOT of people asked if MIDI was supported - Someone asked if Jokosher was similar to something called Jashaker?? I can't find this app anywhere online, but it is supposed to be a video editing app. Finally, a guy from Zend said, and I quote: "How will you make money? Free?? Come on guys!!" Right, some bugs I observed prior to starting the demos, I'm sorry, I know we need "reproducible" bugs, but I have not managed to repro some of these. Since they did indeed occur, though, I feel obligated to at least report them. - A guy with a Creative Audigy soundcard said that when he has only *one* input source armed in Jokosher, it still tells him to "please select only one input source". I suggested that the soundcard might be the problem, it might have multiple inputs, so I suggested he try "muting" all but one of them to see if it works. - When a section of audio was selected, and I pressed play, the red bar that moves across started "filling" the whole track with "red" colour. - Beginning of timeline disappears sometimes. Switching to another format and back fixes it. - Sometimes if you have several blocks of audio in a single track and you press play the audio can be heard "before" the red line reaches the actual block on the track. I tried emailing the photos I took of the event using my camera phone, but I think the attachment is too big for the list so I am removing it. You can still check out the photos at my flickr.com page, http://www.flickr.com/photos/kerneljack. Enjoy! Khusro ------=_Part_19720_6454217.1161891046583 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi everyone,

I want to thank all of you for welcoming me and helping me out yesterday with the Jokosher demos, I had a great time! I promise I will try my best to help out with the bug fixes when jokosher 0.2 goes into freeze in a few days. I do have an exam in a couple of weeks which I have to prepare for, but I will try.

At the moment, I did notice *tons* of spelling mistakes in the Jokosher Help section on the website. I can fix those quite quickly. If I just download the page, fix the errors in HTML and upload a patch to the HTML, is that ok?

Here are some of the features and other questions that people asked:

- A lot of people wanted to record stuff off of the internet, such as BBC radio streams
- Ability to filter out "noise", I believe this maybe possible using the Instrument Effects?
- One guy asked if there are any latency issues when multiple instruments are plugged in?
- VOIP recording
- Export / Import from cubase?
- Windows version?
- Some guy asked if Jokosher was similar to EMi?? I think the website is: http://emi.thevtek.com
- A few people asked if Patch Panels were supported
- MIDI, a LOT of people asked if MIDI was supported
- Someone asked if Jokosher was similar to something called Jashaker?? I can't find this app anywhere online, but it is supposed to be a video editing app.

Finally, a guy from Zend said, and I quote: "How will you make money? Free?? Come on guys!!"

Right, some bugs I observed prior to starting the demos, I'm sorry, I know we need "reproducible" bugs, but I have not managed to repro some of these. Since they did indeed occur, though, I feel obligated to at least report them.

- A guy with a Creative Audigy soundcard said that when he has only *one* input source armed in Jokosher, it still tells him to "please select only one input source". I suggested that the soundcard might be the problem, it might have multiple inputs, so I suggested he try "muting" all but one of them to see if it works.

- When a section of audio was selected, and I pressed play, the red bar that moves across started "filling" the whole track with "red" colour.

- Beginning of timeline disappears sometimes. Switching to another format and back fixes it.

- Sometimes if you have several blocks of audio in a single track and you press play the audio can be heard "before" the red line reaches the actual block on the track.

I tried emailing the photos I took of the event using my camera phone, but I think the attachment is too big for the list so I am removing it. You can still check out the photos at my flickr.com page, http://www.flickr.com/photos/kerneljack.
Enjoy!

Khusro

------=_Part_19720_6454217.1161891046583-- From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Thu Oct 26 15:54:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325A33B00E9 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:54:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19535-08 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:54:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46C6C3B000C for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:54:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1101736nfa for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:54:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.127.15 with SMTP id z15mr943348buc; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:54:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610261254h22703329n2afc7278dff1e1a4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:54:28 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: kerneljack@kerneljack.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: b3260f21ce215fb7 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.34 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.060, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.34 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:54:35 -0000 > I want to thank all of you for welcoming me and helping me out yesterday In turn, I want to thank you for being part of the team running the stand! Sorry I couldn't make it down. > At the moment, I did notice *tons* of spelling mistakes in the Jokosher Help > section on the website. I can fix those quite quickly. If I just download > the page, fix the errors in HTML and upload a patch to the HTML, is that ok? Go for it; mail the patch to me or to the list. > - A lot of people wanted to record stuff off of the internet, such as BBC > radio streams Hm. Network Instruments are the way here, although there are Legal Issues with doing this :) > - Ability to filter out "noise", I believe this maybe possible using the > Instrument Effects? > - One guy asked if there are any latency issues when multiple instruments > are plugged in? I don't know about these two. > - VOIP recording Network Instruments. Yes indeed. This is going to happen. > - Export / Import from cubase? Unlikely, but if someone looks into it it might turn out to be easier. Dunno. In practice, though, you're not really supposed to ship whole Jokosher projects around in the same way that you're not supposed to ship entire Cubase projects around; instead, you encode to some sort of transport format (say, Ogg Vorbis), and we can already do that to exchange music with Cubase. > - Windows version? Porting Jokosher isn't the problem (and indeed would be trivial, since it's Python), it's porting the stuff we depend on, like GStreamer and Cairo. All these things are being worked on on Windows, so perhaps this will be doable soon (or already is doable, but we have no-one looking at it). > - Some guy asked if Jokosher was similar to EMi?? I think the website is: > http://emi.thevtek.com > - A few people asked if Patch Panels were supported > - MIDI, a LOT of people asked if MIDI was supported > - Someone asked if Jokosher was similar to something called Jashaker?? I > can't find this app anywhere online, but it is supposed to be a video > editing app. Don't know about any of these, except that "Jashaker" is a coincidence :) > Finally, a guy from Zend said, and I quote: "How will you make money? Free?? > Come on guys!!" yes! that's what we're going to do! sell it! screw open source! Bah. > Right, some bugs I observed prior to starting the demos, I'm sorry, I know > we need "reproducible" bugs, but I have not managed to repro some of these. > Since they did indeed occur, though, I feel obligated to at least report > them. It'd be useful if these went into the bugtracking system; since I still ahven't finished the Simple Bug Submitter, can someone drop them in? (I don't have time right now.) > I tried emailing the photos I took of the event using my camera phone, but I > think the attachment is too big for the list so I am removing it. You can > still check out the photos at my flickr.com page, > http://www.flickr.com/photos/kerneljack. Nice one! Thanks again :) sil -- >> Heard a lot about eggnog, but I have never experienced it >> first-hand. What is this thing made off? > Isn't it obvious? Eggs and nog, of course. Don't pay any attention to him, Sid. It's eggs, *sugar*, and nog. -- Jason, rec.humor.oracle.d From kerneljack@gmail.com Thu Oct 26 16:39:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262AA3B009D for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:39:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22665-03 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:39:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039B83B0094 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:39:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1113584nfa for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.20.5 with SMTP id x5mr6241400nfi; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.241.3 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:39:06 +0100 From: "Khusro Jaleel" To: "Stuart Langridge" In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610261254h22703329n2afc7278dff1e1a4@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_21154_13754820.1161895146365" References: <4c91566f0610261254h22703329n2afc7278dff1e1a4@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.399 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: kerneljack@kerneljack.com List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:39:14 -0000 ------=_Part_21154_13754820.1161895146365 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_21155_12760395.1161895146365" ------=_Part_21155_12760395.1161895146365 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks a lot, Stuart, wish I could have met you there too :-) Ok, here is one normal patch and a unified one, as I'm not sure which format you prefer ... I think I got most of the big mistakes. Khusro On 10/26/06, Stuart Langridge wrote: > > > I want to thank all of you for welcoming me and helping me out yesterday > > In turn, I want to thank you for being part of the team running the > stand! Sorry I couldn't make it down. > > > At the moment, I did notice *tons* of spelling mistakes in the Jokosher > Help > > section on the website. I can fix those quite quickly. If I just > download > > the page, fix the errors in HTML and upload a patch to the HTML, is that > ok? > > Go for it; mail the patch to me or to the list. > > > - A lot of people wanted to record stuff off of the internet, such as > BBC > > radio streams > > Hm. Network Instruments are the way here, although there are Legal > Issues with doing this :) > > > - Ability to filter out "noise", I believe this maybe possible using the > > Instrument Effects? > > - One guy asked if there are any latency issues when multiple > instruments > > are plugged in? > > I don't know about these two. > > > - VOIP recording > > Network Instruments. Yes indeed. This is going to happen. > > > - Export / Import from cubase? > > Unlikely, but if someone looks into it it might turn out to be easier. > Dunno. In practice, though, you're not really supposed to ship whole > Jokosher projects around in the same way that you're not supposed to > ship entire Cubase projects around; instead, you encode to some sort > of transport format (say, Ogg Vorbis), and we can already do that to > exchange music with Cubase. > > > - Windows version? > > Porting Jokosher isn't the problem (and indeed would be trivial, since > it's Python), it's porting the stuff we depend on, like GStreamer and > Cairo. All these things are being worked on on Windows, so perhaps > this will be doable soon (or already is doable, but we have no-one > looking at it). > > > - Some guy asked if Jokosher was similar to EMi?? I think the website > is: > > http://emi.thevtek.com > > - A few people asked if Patch Panels were supported > > - MIDI, a LOT of people asked if MIDI was supported > > - Someone asked if Jokosher was similar to something called Jashaker?? I > > can't find this app anywhere online, but it is supposed to be a video > > editing app. > > Don't know about any of these, except that "Jashaker" is a coincidence :) > > > Finally, a guy from Zend said, and I quote: "How will you make money? > Free?? > > Come on guys!!" > > yes! that's what we're going to do! sell it! screw open source! Bah. > > > Right, some bugs I observed prior to starting the demos, I'm sorry, I > know > > we need "reproducible" bugs, but I have not managed to repro some of > these. > > Since they did indeed occur, though, I feel obligated to at least report > > them. > > It'd be useful if these went into the bugtracking system; since I > still ahven't finished the Simple Bug Submitter, can someone drop them > in? (I don't have time right now.) > > > I tried emailing the photos I took of the event using my camera phone, > but I > > think the attachment is too big for the list so I am removing it. You > can > > still check out the photos at my flickr.com page, > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/kerneljack. > > Nice one! Thanks again :) > > sil > > -- > >> Heard a lot about eggnog, but I have never experienced it > >> first-hand. What is this thing made off? > > Isn't it obvious? Eggs and nog, of course. > Don't pay any attention to him, Sid. It's eggs, *sugar*, and nog. > -- Jason, rec.humor.oracle.d > ------=_Part_21155_12760395.1161895146365 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks a lot, Stuart, wish I could have met you there too :-)

Ok, here is one normal patch and a unified one, as I'm not sure which format you prefer ... I think I got most of the big mistakes.

Khusro

On 10/26/06, Stuart Langridge <sil@kryogenix.org> wrote:
> I want to thank all of you for welcoming me and helping me out yesterday

In turn, I want to thank you for being part of the team running the
stand! Sorry I couldn't make it down.

> At the moment, I did notice *tons* of spelling mistakes in the Jokosher Help
> section on the website. I can fix those quite quickly. If I just download
> the page, fix the errors in HTML and upload a patch to the HTML, is that ok?

Go for it; mail the patch to me or to the list.

> - A lot of people wanted to record stuff off of the internet, such as BBC
> radio streams

Hm. Network Instruments are the way here, although there are Legal
Issues with doing this :)

> - Ability to filter out "noise", I believe this maybe possible using the
> Instrument Effects?
> - One guy asked if there are any latency issues when multiple instruments
> are plugged in?

I don't know about these two.

> - VOIP recording

Network Instruments. Yes indeed. This is going to happen.

> - Export / Import from cubase?

Unlikely, but if someone looks into it it might turn out to be easier.
Dunno. In practice, though, you're not really supposed to ship whole
Jokosher projects around in the same way that you're not supposed to
ship entire Cubase projects around; instead, you encode to some sort
of transport format (say, Ogg Vorbis), and we can already do that to
exchange music with Cubase.

> - Windows version?

Porting Jokosher isn't the problem (and indeed would be trivial, since
it's Python), it's porting the stuff we depend on, like GStreamer and
Cairo. All these things are being worked on on Windows, so perhaps
this will be doable soon (or already is doable, but we have no-one
looking at it).

> - Some guy asked if Jokosher was similar to EMi?? I think the website is:
> http://emi.thevtek.com
> - A few people asked if Patch Panels were supported
> - MIDI, a LOT of people asked if MIDI was supported
> - Someone asked if Jokosher was similar to something called Jashaker?? I
> can't find this app anywhere online, but it is supposed to be a video
> editing app.

Don't know about any of these, except that "Jashaker" is a coincidence :)

> Finally, a guy from Zend said, and I quote: "How will you make money? Free??
> Come on guys!!"

yes! that's what we're going to do! sell it! screw open source! Bah.

> Right, some bugs I observed prior to starting the demos, I'm sorry, I know
> we need "reproducible" bugs, but I have not managed to repro some of these.
> Since they did indeed occur, though, I feel obligated to at least report
> them.

It'd be useful if these went into the bugtracking system; since I
still ahven't finished the Simple Bug Submitter, can someone drop them
in? (I don't have time right now.)

> I tried emailing the photos I took of the event using my camera phone, but I
> think the attachment is too big for the list so I am removing it. You can
> still check out the photos at my flickr.com page,
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/kerneljack.

Nice one! Thanks again :)

sil

--
>> Heard a lot about eggnog, but I have never experienced it
>> first-hand. What is this thing made off?
> Isn't it obvious? Eggs and nog, of course.
Don't pay any attention to him, Sid. It's eggs, *sugar*, and nog.
             -- Jason, rec.humor.oracle.d

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jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447C13B00EC for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:18:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24637-08 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:18:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C408E3B00FB for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:18:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1122972nfa for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.107.15 with SMTP id f15mr961388buc; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610261418i459878ees785c45be7f8573b2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:18:04 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: kerneljack@kerneljack.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4c91566f0610261254h22703329n2afc7278dff1e1a4@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: dd9e262c08943e02 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.341 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.059, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.341 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:18:07 -0000 > Ok, here is one normal patch and a unified one, as I'm not sure which format > you prefer ... I think I got most of the big mistakes. Changes made. I've also gone through and fixed a lot of the HTML (I suspect the original stuff was created by some tool like OpenOffice, which needs a boot in the arse to shape up), and updated the header slightly to indicate that it's been worked on by the project as a whole. Eventually this will be rolled into the DocTeam's work on doc.jokosher.org, but it can certainly stand for now! sil -- Penelope Pitstop: Ohhh, it's my arch enemy, the Hooded Claw! The Hooded Claw: Who did you expect? Dick Dastardly? -- The Perils of Penelope Pitstop, "Jungle Jeopardy" From laszlok2@gmail.com Thu Oct 26 19:00:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA133B0098 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:00:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30291-02 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:00:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.200]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2693B002B for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:00:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so427809nzf for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.107.10 with SMTP id j10mr3972627qbm; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id q18sm1708271qbq.2006.10.26.16.00.56; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45413E49.1040803@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:01:29 -0400 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kerneljack@kerneljack.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 23:00:58 -0000 Khusro Jaleel wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Here are some of the features and other questions that people asked: > > - A lot of people wanted to record stuff off of the internet, such as > BBC radio streams Yes, mostly illegal, but not actually hard to do. Once the interface for network instruments are in, a non-seekable stream could be treated as the same thing. > - Ability to filter out "noise", I believe this maybe possible using the > Instrument Effects? Yes, we should figure out some way to do this, if for nothing else but all those poor podcast listenters. Oh and normalization is something that should go with this too. > - Export / Import from cubase? If the audio was in a proper format (like ogg, mp3 or wav) I can't imagine this being too hard to do if people *really* demand it. > - Windows version? Yes its just about getting stuff libs compiled and functioning on windows, and abstracting our current reliance on ALSA. Stuart mentioned cairo on windows. Firefox 3 will use cairo on windows, so that might be worth looking at. > - A few people asked if Patch Panels were supported Am I the only one who doesn't know what a patch panel is? Unless they're talking about a mixing board. > - MIDI, a LOT of people asked if MIDI was supported That's probably because its so hard/rare for applications to do. > - Someone asked if Jokosher was similar to something called Jashaker?? I > can't find this app anywhere online, but it is supposed to be a video > editing app. I've heard this one before. Its some kind of openGL accelerated video editor. > - When a section of audio was selected, and I pressed play, the red bar > that moves across started "filling" the whole track with "red" colour. > I thought I fixed this a *long* time ago. What happens is that we only draw a 3 pixel wide column right where the playhead is to improve the performance (because while playing we draw like 30FPS). Can you give me any more information? Maybe its a slow computer that is dropping redraw frames which prevents the red sections from being redrawn? > - Beginning of timeline disappears sometimes. Switching to another > format and back fixes it. > Without being able to reproduce theres not much we can do. > - Sometimes if you have several blocks of audio in a single track and > you press play the audio can be heard "before" the red line reaches the > actual block on the track. Again, I think this is drawing issues. We fixed all the position rounding errors, etc already. Nice job on getting the word out BTW. :) Laszlo From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Thu Oct 26 19:24:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E9F3B002B for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31137-09 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:24:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06CEC3B007C for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:24:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so512933ugb for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.135.13 with SMTP id i13mr1021377bud; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 02:24:42 +0300 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20061026185524.GA7895@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <36feaa6c0610260842j1ec5140dm9009d5d99af6c0@mail.gmail.com> <20061026185524.GA7895@localhost.localdomain> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.393 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.393 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Interest in Jokosher X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 23:24:45 -0000 I saw the flikr photo stream from the stand. Looks awesome (and so did the flyer :)) Would be great if we had a video file from there though. On 10/26/06, John Green wrote: > On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 04:42:51PM +0100, David Morley wrote: > > and were about half way though the other 50. So if it is as busy > > today as it was yesterday then they will run out. If a fraction of > > those people contribute it will be amazing. > > > > We ran out about an hour before the close and resorted to hand-written URLs. > We did about a dozen of those. Altogether today was not quite as busy but > still the interest was really quite astonishing. People seem to really, > really like the look and feel of the app. But what tends to put them off is > the dependence on gstreamer CVS. That really is a quite daunting task for > all but the most determined. But one day (April 2007?) 'apt-get install > jokosher' *will* work and hopefully everyone who saw it over the last two > days will remember. > > -- > John Green > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > -- Panos Laganakos From davmor2@gmail.com Fri Oct 27 03:31:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB5C3B010D for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 03:31:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19165-02 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 03:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B6D3B0119 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 03:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so595883ugb for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 00:31:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.89.5 with SMTP id r5mr4473575ugl; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 00:31:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 00:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610270031h829fedrb6c097742adc8b62@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:31:40 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: "Laszlo Pandy" In-Reply-To: <45413E49.1040803@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45413E49.1040803@gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: kerneljack@kerneljack.com, jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:31:44 -0000 > > - Export / Import from cubase? > > If the audio was in a proper format (like ogg, mp3 or wav) I can't > imagine this being too hard to do if people *really* demand it. > I think this one was brought up because we were describing it as a project inspired by no longer wanting to use cubase on a windows machine to record a linux podcast. At this point one guy said right so you'll be able to import cubase stuff into then? At which point it kinda dawned on us that if people have been using cubase the likelyhood is if they move over to Linux they will want to edit the music they already have or are working on. So I think it could rapidly become a popular request. -- Seek That Thy Might Know From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Fri Oct 27 04:35:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1813B00A3 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:35:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22958-01 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:35:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473BE3B00A6 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:35:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1229959nfa for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 01:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.126.19 with SMTP id y19mr1275522buc; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 01:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 01:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610270135i62910c36ra96c9ea8acbdbf87@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:35:19 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "David Morley" In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610270031h829fedrb6c097742adc8b62@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45413E49.1040803@gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610270031h829fedrb6c097742adc8b62@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0191d87b19a68e4f X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.343 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.057, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.343 X-Spam-Level: Cc: kerneljack@kerneljack.com, jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, Laszlo Pandy Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:35:22 -0000 On 10/27/06, David Morley wrote: > At this point one guy said right so you'll be able to import cubase > stuff into then? At which point it kinda dawned on us that if people > have been using cubase the likelyhood is if they move over to Linux > they will want to edit the music they already have or are working on. > So I think it could rapidly become a popular request. Very true. Jono (or anyone else with Cubase): what's the format of a project? sil -- Also, thank you for reducing my productivity by introducing me to bash.org -- Tim From david@ar.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp Fri Oct 27 06:12:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3C23B0122 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:12:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28103-10 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:12:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.ar.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp (mail.ar.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp [130.54.15.101]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB233B00C7 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:12:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.17] (donau [192.168.1.17]) by mail.ar.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7W-ar-mail) id TAA16661; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:14:39 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <4541DB45.8080708@ar.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:11:17 +0900 From: David Cournapeau User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <45413E49.1040803@gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610270031h829fedrb6c097742adc8b62@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610270031h829fedrb6c097742adc8b62@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.647 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.463, BAYES_40=-0.185] X-Spam-Score: -0.647 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:12:10 -0000 David Morley wrote: >>> - Export / Import from cubase? >>> >> If the audio was in a proper format (like ogg, mp3 or wav) I can't >> imagine this being too hard to do if people *really* demand it. >> >> > I think this one was brought up because we were describing it as a > project inspired by no longer wanting to use cubase on a windows > machine to record a linux podcast. > > At this point one guy said right so you'll be able to import cubase > stuff into then? At which point it kinda dawned on us that if people > have been using cubase the likelyhood is if they move over to Linux > they will want to edit the music they already have or are working on. > So I think it could rapidly become a popular request. > > First, cubase is not really the tool I would choose to edit podcast, but anyway: a cubase project describes internal settings of a project under cubase, such as plugin and mixinx desk states, etc... with separate files for the audio data. Importing the project file itself would be useless for an audio editor, without even talking about all the work to reverse engineer a file format which is closed, I think. Last time I tried jokosher (last month), it could do the basic editing for eg podcast without a problem, but for people doing "serious" musical editing, jokosher is still not enough (which is normal seeing when the project was started). And anyway, from what I understood, jokosher's goal is not to go after those kind of big softwares (we already have rosegarden, ardour for that), right ? cheers, David From jason@jasonfield.com Fri Oct 27 06:32:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F703B0094 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:32:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28898-07 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:32:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sonaptic.com (unknown [82.110.122.149]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96ADA3B00B3 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:32:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.162] ([192.168.0.162]) by sonaptic.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:32:46 +0100 Message-ID: <4541E04E.9060209@jasonfield.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:32:46 +0100 From: Jason Field User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stuart Langridge References: <45413E49.1040803@gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610270031h829fedrb6c097742adc8b62@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610270135i62910c36ra96c9ea8acbdbf87@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610270135i62910c36ra96c9ea8acbdbf87@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2006 10:32:46.0126 (UTC) FILETIME=[3DFF94E0:01C6F9B3] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.514 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.404, BAYES_05=-1.11] X-Spam-Score: -1.514 X-Spam-Level: Cc: kerneljack@kerneljack.com, jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, Laszlo Pandy , David Morley Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:32:59 -0000 Stuart Langridge wrote: > Jono (or anyone else with Cubase): what's the format of a project >From a quick look at some Cubase SX 2 files from my work machine, I'd say it's a customised version of the RIFF file format which is quite interesting (for those not used to messing with file data, the RIFF format is a structure used in WAV files and also some video formats IIRC). >From a coding point of view, it's a bit more of a pain than if it was in XML or similar, but a lot better than a completely unkown binary format. Cheers, J From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Fri Oct 27 06:36:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05FB43B0087 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:36:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29061-09 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:36:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F043B00DB for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:36:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d4so1123909nfe for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 03:36:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.129.8 with SMTP id b8mr1287462bud; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 03:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 03:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610270336nac5a86cq93510dcbff174b27@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:36:23 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Jason Field" In-Reply-To: <4541E04E.9060209@jasonfield.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45413E49.1040803@gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610270031h829fedrb6c097742adc8b62@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610270135i62910c36ra96c9ea8acbdbf87@mail.gmail.com> <4541E04E.9060209@jasonfield.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4586bc6e29f89b82 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.344 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.056, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.344 X-Spam-Level: Cc: kerneljack@kerneljack.com, jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, Laszlo Pandy , David Morley Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:36:27 -0000 On 10/27/06, Jason Field wrote: > Stuart Langridge wrote: > > Jono (or anyone else with Cubase): what's the format of a project > From a quick look at some Cubase SX 2 files from my work machine, I'd > say it's a customised version of the RIFF file format which is quite > interesting (for those not used to messing with file data, the RIFF > format is a structure used in WAV files and also some video formats IIRC). > > From a coding point of view, it's a bit more of a pain than if it was in > XML or similar, but a lot better than a completely unkown binary format. That's the audio; where's all the project metadata? Or is that in the audio files too? sil -- Medio tutissimus ibis. (You will travel safest in a middle course) -- family motto From chris-procter@talk21.com Fri Oct 27 06:43:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24FA83B0094 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:43:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29766-06 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:43:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web86601.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web86601.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.134]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3AC2C3B0081 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:43:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 74071 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Oct 2006 10:43:11 -0000 Message-ID: <20061027104311.74069.qmail@web86601.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Received: from [80.68.82.133] by web86601.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:43:10 BST Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:43:10 +0100 (BST) From: chris procter To: Jokosher gnome In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.675 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708, TW_KN=0.077] X-Spam-Score: 0.675 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Interest in Jokosher X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:43:15 -0000 --- Panos Laganakos wrote: > I saw the flikr photo stream from the stand. > > Looks awesome (and so did the flyer :)) The flyers were awesome, I honestly think they were some of the best there. Most of the people we talked to said they'd never heard of Jokosher so the "audio production made simple" tag line and the bullet pointed poster/handout in its distinctive colour scheme really helped get peoples attention with people stopping to read them and then getting drawn in by the helpful and enthusiastic volunteers :) We also had the advantage of the Linux User And Developer magazine people giving away their latest issue complete with an article on "Audio editing made simple" by a certain Michael Sheldon talking about an orange and green app you may of heard of... All good stuff for raising the projects profile, even if theres not a sudden rush of patches and bug reports over the weekend. On a related note I had several people comment on how good Jokosher looked in general and how it seemed very obvious to use so congrats to everyone involved in the looknfeel you're obviously doing something right! chris Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Fri Oct 27 06:53:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007763B0081 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:53:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30231-09 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:53:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E8EA3B00B9 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:53:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1265261nfa for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 03:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.111.8 with SMTP id j8mr1285434buc; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 03:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 03:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610270353l5e4c1578od12e865828a7ecd0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:53:03 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Jokosher Mailing List" In-Reply-To: <20061027104311.74069.qmail@web86601.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061027104311.74069.qmail@web86601.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: b83e6a46211c63a9 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.416 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.875, BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.416 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Interest in Jokosher X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:53:06 -0000 I'd like to add a shortish writeup of how the Expo stand went to jokosher.org news; would someone who was actually, y'know, *there* like to write something up so I can post it? sil -- Medio tutissimus ibis. (You will travel safest in a middle course) -- family motto From john@thegreens.co.uk Fri Oct 27 07:01:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E67043B00B9 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:01:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30789-06 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.138]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D85C3B00A3 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:01:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 68268 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2006 11:00:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Oct 2006 11:00:59 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3E91C77F16; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:00:59 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:00:59 +0100 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061027110059.GA23496@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.156 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.374, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: -1.156 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Extension weirdness X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:01:05 -0000 Does this happen to anyone else? I have two identical Jokosher setups, with the exact same revs of Jokosher and extensions and all extensions in ~/.jokosher/extensions. On one machine the extensions all load fine. On the other the .egg files don't. I instead get the message 'No module named APIConsole' or similar and I've no idea why. Now if on the misbehaving machine I start Jokosher without the gst-head trick then all the eggs load fine so maybe it's to do with the number of entries in PYTHONPATH or something like that. Whatever it's very odd and a little worrying. -- John Green From jason@jasonfield.com Fri Oct 27 07:06:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBB43B0155 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:06:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31117-04 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:06:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sonaptic.com (unknown [82.110.122.149]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 401693B0136 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:06:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.162] ([192.168.0.162]) by sonaptic.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:06:49 +0100 Message-ID: <4541E849.1070707@jasonfield.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:06:49 +0100 From: Jason Field User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stuart Langridge References: <45413E49.1040803@gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610270031h829fedrb6c097742adc8b62@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610270135i62910c36ra96c9ea8acbdbf87@mail.gmail.com> <4541E04E.9060209@jasonfield.com> <4c91566f0610270336nac5a86cq93510dcbff174b27@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610270336nac5a86cq93510dcbff174b27@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2006 11:06:49.0643 (UTC) FILETIME=[000787B0:01C6F9B8] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.201 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.398, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.201 X-Spam-Level: Cc: kerneljack@kerneljack.com, jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, Laszlo Pandy , David Morley Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:06:54 -0000 Stuart Langridge wrote: > On 10/27/06, Jason Field wrote: >> Stuart Langridge wrote: >> > Jono (or anyone else with Cubase): what's the format of a project >> From a quick look at some Cubase SX 2 files from my work machine, I'd >> say it's a customised version of the RIFF file format which is quite >> interesting (for those not used to messing with file data, the RIFF >> format is a structure used in WAV files and also some video formats >> IIRC). >> >> From a coding point of view, it's a bit more of a pain than if it was in >> XML or similar, but a lot better than a completely unkown binary format. > > That's the audio; where's all the project metadata? Or is that in the > audio files too? > > sil > Sorry I should have been clearer - I was referring to the .cpr project files. That's why I thought it was interesting that they're in the RIFF format. A WAV is always in the RIFF format hence wouldn't have piqued my curiosity :). I assume that all of the audio files are in standard WAV format, and are then referenced by name from the .cpr file. I'm at work so I don't have the time to do a thorough investigation unfortunately. I'll try to get the time to have a more thorough look tonight. J From ben.thorp@gmail.com Fri Oct 27 07:18:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DED03B00AC for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:18:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31799-07 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:18:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.224]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E643B00EA for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:18:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i30so696717wxd for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.56.2 with SMTP id e2mr5466146wxa; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.123.5 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:18:07 +0100 From: "Ben Thorp" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <4541E849.1070707@jasonfield.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_63301_33403278.1161947887703" References: <45413E49.1040803@gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610270031h829fedrb6c097742adc8b62@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610270135i62910c36ra96c9ea8acbdbf87@mail.gmail.com> <4541E04E.9060209@jasonfield.com> <4c91566f0610270336nac5a86cq93510dcbff174b27@mail.gmail.com> <4541E849.1070707@jasonfield.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.081 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-1.378, BAYES_05=-1.11, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_00_10=0.795, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LENGTH=1.574, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: 0.081 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:18:13 -0000 ------=_Part_63301_33403278.1161947887703 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline FWIW, the application in confusion is Jahshaka ( ------=_Part_63301_33403278.1161947887703 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline FWIW, the application in confusion is Jahshaka (
------=_Part_63301_33403278.1161947887703-- From ben.thorp@gmail.com Fri Oct 27 07:18:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC4C3B0161 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:18:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31799-08 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:18:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.236]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B293B00A3 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:18:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i30so696825wxd for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:18:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.53.7 with SMTP id b7mr5464119wxa; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:18:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.123.5 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:18:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:18:39 +0100 From: "Ben Thorp" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_63313_6340308.1161947919412" References: <45413E49.1040803@gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610270031h829fedrb6c097742adc8b62@mail.gmail.com> <4c91566f0610270135i62910c36ra96c9ea8acbdbf87@mail.gmail.com> <4541E04E.9060209@jasonfield.com> <4c91566f0610270336nac5a86cq93510dcbff174b27@mail.gmail.com> <4541E849.1070707@jasonfield.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.504 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.895, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.504 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Thanks guys! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:18:42 -0000 ------=_Part_63313_6340308.1161947919412 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dammit - gmail playing up for me - was trying to paste the url too http://www.jahshaka.org/ :) On 10/27/06, Ben Thorp wrote: > > FWIW, the application in confusion is Jahshaka ( > ------=_Part_63313_6340308.1161947919412 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dammit - gmail playing up for me - was trying to paste the url too

http://www.jahshaka.org/

:)

On 10/27/06, Ben Thorp <ben.thorp@gmail.com> wrote:
FWIW, the application in confusion is Jahshaka (

------=_Part_63313_6340308.1161947919412-- From niels@kjoller.eu Tue Oct 24 08:49:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1C13B0072 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:49:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25527-04 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:49:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pfepc.post.tele.dk (pfepc.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2973B0071 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:49:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (cpe.atm2-0-101334.0x50a67d26.bynxx14.customer.tele.dk [80.166.125.38]) by pfepc.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8040C8A0090 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:49:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Niels =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kj=F8ller?= Hansen To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-/JX7PddoGlJk+ui0nmb0" Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:49:06 +0200 Message-Id: <1161694147.30606.11.camel@niels-laptop.kvintus.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:45:07 -0400 Subject: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Fixed: Ticket #169 (No way to delete projects from welcome dialog) X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:49:08 -0000 --=-/JX7PddoGlJk+ui0nmb0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, This is my first patch for Jokosher, as well as any other project. I added a button below the 'Open Recent Project' and tied it up to a new function in JokosherApp.py called RemoveRecentProject I also added a self.model.clear() to PopulateRecentProjects in WelcomeDialog.py to empty it before appending the projects. It seems that my changes to Jokosher.glade has made the patch file very large. nibil on #jokosher thinks it's because the latest change was made with Glade 2. I used Glade 3.0.2. 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ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so641011ugb for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 05:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.160.2 with SMTP id i2mr4799078hue; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 05:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 05:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610270547x2944175esf6fbc5f137246381@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 13:47:23 +0100 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Niels_Kj=F8ller_Hansen?=" In-Reply-To: <1161694147.30606.11.camel@niels-laptop.kvintus.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1161694147.30606.11.camel@niels-laptop.kvintus.dk> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.213 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.187, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.213 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Fixed: Ticket #169 (No way to delete projects from welcome dialog) X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:48:47 -0000 Hi, Sorry, this was an admin moderated request, so you may have seen this before. Jono From davmor2@gmail.com Fri Oct 27 10:03:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208363B0081 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:03:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09728-10 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:03:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71C63B00D7 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:03:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so661536ugb for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.117.2 with SMTP id u2mr4929383ugm; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610270703p2b2ff28ci5a5751fe751a684f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:03:37 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: "Stuart Langridge" In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0610270353l5e4c1578od12e865828a7ecd0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061027104311.74069.qmail@web86601.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4c91566f0610270353l5e4c1578od12e865828a7ecd0@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Mailing List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Interest in Jokosher X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:03:41 -0000 On 27/10/06, Stuart Langridge wrote: > I'd like to add a shortish writeup of how the Expo stand went to > jokosher.org news; would someone who was actually, y'know, *there* > like to write something up so I can post it? > Aq what would you actually like to know about it and I'll post you something. -- Seek That Thy Might Know From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Fri Oct 27 10:20:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAAB93B0098 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:20:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10880-05 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498173B0070 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:20:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so666321ugb for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.126.19 with SMTP id y19mr1403183buc; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.112.18 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610270720k26d4ff3fw30fbca3f3f5bce7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:20:51 +0100 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "David Morley" , "Jokosher Mailing List" In-Reply-To: <36feaa6c0610270703p2b2ff28ci5a5751fe751a684f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061027104311.74069.qmail@web86601.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4c91566f0610270353l5e4c1578od12e865828a7ecd0@mail.gmail.com> <36feaa6c0610270703p2b2ff28ci5a5751fe751a684f@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 702c3ca2481f82c6 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.243 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.157, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.243 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Interest in Jokosher X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:20:57 -0000 On 10/27/06, David Morley wrote: > On 27/10/06, Stuart Langridge wrote: > > I'd like to add a shortish writeup of how the Expo stand went to > > jokosher.org news; would someone who was actually, y'know, *there* > > like to write something up so I can post it? > > > Aq what would you actually like to know about it and I'll post you something. Cor, I dunno. What went on. Something that would be good on the site to show that the project is still kicking some arse :) sil -- Also, thank you for reducing my productivity by introducing me to bash.org -- Tim From davmor2@gmail.com Fri Oct 27 14:24:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EA73B0142 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29705-09 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:24:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366043B0199 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so734753ugb for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.117.2 with SMTP id u2mr5392535ugm; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610271124u589cf5e7t3525c18dc566f666@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:24:00 +0100 From: "David Morley" To: stuart.langridge@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.186 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.186 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Mailing List Subject: [jokosher-devel] How about this then X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 18:24:23 -0000 Day one in the big brother house.(Said in a tongue in cheek Geordie accent) After a hectic start both people entered the show, we wondered if we had over done the mass printing effort. Fortunately though the shows pace increased and things steadily got busier to the point where the music could no longer be heard over the noise of people talking. Not the greatest of demos that, an audio program where you can't hear the audio (memo to self next year big speakers). However we managed to demo our way through the day on the two laptop present, and on the whole everyone that saw the project was very impressed with the general look and feel of the program. One of the main questions asked was who we were aiming the product at? To which we replied it is aimed at musicians it is basic and functional, it is easy to use and briefly demoed how to cut and paste into new instruments feeds, splitting the audio and in general messing about with the original import of Jono's free software song. Stupid question of the day went to the chap from Zend who asked at a stall in the ".org village." "How were going to make money?" Isn't that just the most Homer forehead slapping D'oh question ever. By the end of the first day we had talked ourselves horse, nearly run out of flyers and had a great time. Some people seemed to take a really genuine interest in the project where as others asked a couple of questions and were gone. One of the things that impressed me the most was just how many people at the show were Techs from local schools, colleges and universities. Many of these people were very interested in it's development and said they would definitely keep on eye on Jokoshers progress. A guy from bt said he would install it on his Linux pc to demo the project to his cubase, windows using son (that one amused us a little). Final thoughts. Jokosher was in the busiest section of the .org village. We were amazed by the amount of people who took an interest in the stall and the project as a whole. Many of the people who came to the stall said they would definitely check it out, the less determined amongst them said they would check out 0.1 an not compile gstreamer cvs thank you very much. However of the people who said they would check it out most said they would install when 1.0 comes out. On the whole it was a really impressive day with a high turn out and a really stunning response to the Jokosher project. Everyone should be proud of the work they have put into this project it'll rock Jono said so;) (got to add the winky smile for Jono, you know you have) -- Seek That Thy Might Know From atomic0x@gmail.com Sun Oct 29 12:05:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608023B00FA for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:05:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14357-09 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:05:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A0F3B00EF for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:05:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so915456nzf for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 09:05:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.156.12 with SMTP id d12mr2972495qbe; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 09:05:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.101? ( [72.140.113.171]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id d5sm3429633qbd.2006.10.29.09.05.54; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 09:05:55 -0800 (PST) From: Adam Reid To: Jokosher development list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-T4i/dUU+597Ax8ys52zz" Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:05:49 -0500 Message-Id: <1162141549.10438.46.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.323 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_GT=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.323 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Tooltips for most of the interface X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:05:58 -0000 --=-T4i/dUU+597Ax8ys52zz Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, This is my first patch ever for any project, but I love what you guys are doing so I thought I'd help where I can. This patch contains tooltips for almost everything. Things I haven't done yet are the balance sliders, zoom sliders, and context sensitivity for the workspace button. I can't quite wrap my head around how to manipulate the widget properties from the wTree. Let me know if there are any problems with this patch or if I missed other things. Cheers, Adam Reid --=-T4i/dUU+597Ax8ys52zz Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=tooltips.patch Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=tooltips.patch; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: Jokosher/Jokosher.glade =================================================================== --- Jokosher/Jokosher.glade (revision 851) +++ Jokosher/Jokosher.glade (working copy) @@ -51,6 +51,7 @@ True + Create a new project gtk-new True @@ -60,6 +61,7 @@ True + Open an existing project gtk-open True @@ -69,6 +71,7 @@ True + Save the current project gtk-save True @@ -78,6 +81,7 @@ True + Save a copy of the current project gtk-save-as True @@ -87,6 +91,7 @@ True + Close the current project gtk-close True @@ -96,6 +101,7 @@ True + Open a recent project Recent Projects True @@ -110,6 +116,7 @@ True + Export current project to an audio file _Mixdown Project True @@ -137,6 +144,7 @@ True + Quit Jokosher gtk-quit True @@ -160,6 +168,7 @@ True + Undo the last edit Undo True @@ -182,6 +191,7 @@ True + Redo the previous edit Redo True @@ -210,6 +220,7 @@ True + Cut the current selection gtk-cut True @@ -219,6 +230,7 @@ True + Copy the current selection gtk-copy True @@ -228,6 +240,7 @@ True + Paste the contents of the clipboard gtk-paste True @@ -237,6 +250,7 @@ True + Delete the current selection gtk-delete True @@ -252,6 +266,7 @@ True + Edit Jokosher preferences gtk-preferences True @@ -275,6 +290,7 @@ True + Add an instrument to the project Add Instrument True @@ -296,6 +312,7 @@ True + Change the selected instrument type Change Instrument Type True @@ -305,6 +322,7 @@ True + Manage instrument recording inputs Instrument Connections True @@ -326,6 +344,7 @@ True + Change the timeline Time Format True @@ -335,6 +354,7 @@ True + Change the timeline to show bars, beats and ticks Show as Bars, Beats, Ticks True True @@ -345,6 +365,7 @@ True + Change the timeline to show hours, minutes and seconds Show as Hours, Minutes, Seconds True True @@ -379,6 +400,7 @@ True + Open the extension manager _Manage Extensions True @@ -401,6 +423,7 @@ True + Notes about this release Pre-release Notes True @@ -422,6 +445,7 @@ True + Find out how you can help Contributing to Jokosher True @@ -443,6 +467,7 @@ True + Version information, credits and licence gtk-about True @@ -477,6 +502,7 @@ True + Add a new instrument Add Instrument True gtk-add @@ -484,8 +510,8 @@ True False + - @@ -511,13 +537,14 @@ True + Click and hold to rewind gtk-media-rewind True True False + - @@ -531,13 +558,14 @@ True False + Stop playback gtk-media-stop True True False + - @@ -550,14 +578,15 @@ True + Start playback gtk-media-play True True False False + - @@ -570,13 +599,14 @@ True + Click and hold to fast forward gtk-media-forward True True False + - @@ -690,6 +720,7 @@ True + Switch to Recording workspace True Recording True @@ -709,6 +740,7 @@ True + Switch to Mixing workspace True Mixing True @@ -1219,9 +1251,10 @@ + 12 True False - 0 + 12 @@ -1251,6 +1284,7 @@ True + Type here to search for an instrument True True True @@ -1312,6 +1346,7 @@ True + Don't add an instrument True True gtk-cancel @@ -1325,6 +1360,7 @@ True + Add the selected instrument True True gtk-ok @@ -2106,6 +2142,7 @@ True + Save preferences and close True True gtk-close @@ -2217,6 +2254,7 @@ True + Enter the authors name True True True @@ -2315,6 +2353,7 @@ True + Enter the projects name True True True @@ -2392,6 +2431,7 @@ True + Don't create the project True True gtk-cancel @@ -2405,6 +2445,7 @@ True + Create the project True True gtk-ok @@ -2512,6 +2553,7 @@ True + Double-click on a recent project to open True False False @@ -2533,6 +2575,7 @@ True + Select a project to open from the list True GTK_RELIEF_NORMAL True @@ -2625,6 +2668,7 @@ True + Start Jokosher with an empty project True GTK_RELIEF_NORMAL True @@ -2704,6 +2748,7 @@ True + Find and open an existing project True GTK_RELIEF_NORMAL True @@ -2783,6 +2828,7 @@ True + Change Jokosher preferences True GTK_RELIEF_NORMAL True @@ -2862,6 +2908,7 @@ True + Quit Jokosher True gtk-quit True @@ -2894,6 +2941,7 @@ True + I'm sorry, do I annoy you? True Don't show this on start-up True @@ -2945,6 +2993,7 @@ True + Save your connections and close this widow True True gtk-close @@ -3042,6 +3091,7 @@ True + Stop mixing the project True True gtk-cancel @@ -3583,6 +3633,7 @@ True + Listen to these effects True True gtk-media-play @@ -3596,6 +3647,7 @@ True + Don't use these effects True True gtk-cancel @@ -3609,6 +3661,7 @@ True + Use these effects True True gtk-ok @@ -3754,6 +3807,7 @@ True + Add the selected effect True gtk-add True @@ -3848,6 +3902,7 @@ True + Type the presets name True True 0 @@ -3868,6 +3923,7 @@ True + Save the current effects configuration True gtk-save True @@ -4208,6 +4264,7 @@ True + Edit Jokosher preferences gtk-preferences True GTK_RELIEF_NORMAL @@ -4276,6 +4333,7 @@ 85 True + Close the extension manager gtk-close True GTK_RELIEF_NORMAL Index: Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py (revision 851) +++ Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py (working copy) @@ -11,6 +11,8 @@ import gtk import TimeLine +import gettext +_=gettext.gettext class TimeLineBar(gtk.Frame): def __init__(self, project, projectview, mainview): @@ -24,11 +26,15 @@ # add click / bpm / signature box self.clickbutton = gtk.ToggleButton("C") + self.clicktip = gtk.Tooltips() + self.clicktip.set_tip(self.clickbutton,_("Turn click track on"),None) self.clickbutton.connect("toggled", self.OnClick) self.bpmeventbox = gtk.EventBox() self.bpmeventbox.modify_bg(gtk.STATE_NORMAL, gtk.gdk.color_parse("#87d987")) self.bpmframe = gtk.Frame() + self.bpmframetip = gtk.Tooltips() + self.bpmframetip.set_tip(self.bpmframe, _("Beats per minute"), None) self.bpmframe.set_shadow_type(gtk.SHADOW_ETCHED_OUT) self.bpmframe.modify_bg(gtk.STATE_NORMAL, gtk.gdk.color_parse("#87d987")) @@ -211,6 +217,7 @@ #_____________________________________________________________________ def OnClick(self, widget): + self.clicktip.set_tip(self.clickbutton, _("Turn click track off"),None) dlg = gtk.MessageDialog(None, gtk.DIALOG_MODAL | gtk.DIALOG_DESTROY_WITH_PARENT, gtk.MESSAGE_WARNING, Index: Jokosher/JokosherApp.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/JokosherApp.py (revision 851) +++ Jokosher/JokosherApp.py (working copy) @@ -37,7 +37,9 @@ gtk.glade.textdomain(Globals.LOCALE_APP) self.wTree = gtk.glade.XML(Globals.GLADE_PATH, "MainWindow") - + def printTree(): + for widget in wTree: + print widget #Connect event handlers signals = { "on_MainWindow_destroy" : self.OnDestroy, --=-T4i/dUU+597Ax8ys52zz-- From kelly_worth2003@yahoo.co.uk Sun Oct 29 19:57:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D4D3B01BF for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 19:57:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15808-03 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 19:57:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.79]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 461B33B007E for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 19:57:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 77685 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2006 00:57:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.100.55?) (kelly?worth2003@81.156.35.228 with plain) by smtp010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2006 00:57:27 -0000 From: John Kelly To: Jokosher development list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-hl6ih37HOc1CWl+ZIzog" Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 00:56:00 +0000 Message-Id: <1162169760.4429.10.camel@edgy> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS=0.291] X-Spam-Score: -0.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Make dialogs centre on their parent window X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 00:57:31 -0000 --=-hl6ih37HOc1CWl+ZIzog Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone, This patch enables most dialogs to centre on the window its called from. Im pretty sure nearly all the dialogs centre on their parent window. Please let me know if there are any ive missed. Ive set the main jokosher window to centre on screen. Ive done some other small changes. I made the file chooser button in the new project dialog fill horizontally and i set the shadow type of the recent projects scrolled window to gtk.SHADOW_IN. The last change was probably unnecessary but i think it makes the recent projects list look neater. Any feedback on the changes ive made are welcome. Regards, John --=-hl6ih37HOc1CWl+ZIzog Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=dialogs_centred.diff Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=dialogs_centred.diff; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: Jokosher/InstrumentConnectionsDialog.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/InstrumentConnectionsDialog.py (revision 852) +++ Jokosher/InstrumentConnectionsDialog.py (working copy) @@ -42,6 +42,8 @@ self.parent = parent self.window.set_icon(self.parent.icon) + ## centre the InstrumentConnectionsDialog on the main jokosher window + self.window.set_transient_for(self.parent.window) self.window.show_all() #_____________________________________________________________________ Index: Jokosher/Jokosher.glade =================================================================== --- Jokosher/Jokosher.glade (revision 852) +++ Jokosher/Jokosher.glade (working copy) @@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ True Jokosher GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL - GTK_WIN_POS_NONE + GTK_WIN_POS_CENTER False 500 400 @@ -510,8 +510,8 @@ True False + - @@ -543,8 +543,8 @@ True False + - @@ -564,8 +564,8 @@ True False + - @@ -585,8 +585,8 @@ False False + - @@ -605,8 +605,8 @@ True False + - @@ -1205,14 +1205,14 @@ True Add an instrument GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL - GTK_WIN_POS_NONE + GTK_WIN_POS_CENTER_ON_PARENT True True False True False False - GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_NORMAL + GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_DIALOG GDK_GRAVITY_CENTER True False @@ -1385,14 +1385,14 @@ True Preferences GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL - GTK_WIN_POS_NONE + GTK_WIN_POS_CENTER_ON_PARENT False True False True False False - GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_NORMAL + GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_DIALOG GDK_GRAVITY_NORTH_WEST True False @@ -2167,14 +2167,14 @@ True New Project GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL - GTK_WIN_POS_NONE + GTK_WIN_POS_CENTER_ON_PARENT True True False True False False - GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_NORMAL + GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_DIALOG GDK_GRAVITY_NORTH_WEST True False @@ -2303,26 +2303,6 @@ - - True - Select A Folder - GTK_FILE_CHOOSER_ACTION_SELECT_FOLDER - True - False - False - -1 - - - 1 - 2 - 1 - 2 - - - - - - True Folder @@ -2399,6 +2379,26 @@ + + + + True + Select A Folder + GTK_FILE_CHOOSER_ACTION_SELECT_FOLDER + True + False + False + -1 + + + 1 + 2 + 1 + 2 + fill + + + 0 @@ -2547,7 +2547,7 @@ True GTK_POLICY_NEVER GTK_POLICY_NEVER - GTK_SHADOW_NONE + GTK_SHADOW_IN GTK_CORNER_TOP_LEFT @@ -2966,7 +2966,7 @@ True Instrument Connections GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL - GTK_WIN_POS_NONE + GTK_WIN_POS_CENTER_ON_PARENT False True False @@ -3182,14 +3182,14 @@ True Contributing to Jokosher GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL - GTK_WIN_POS_NONE + GTK_WIN_POS_CENTER_ON_PARENT False True False True False False - GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_NORMAL + GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_DIALOG GDK_GRAVITY_NORTH_WEST True False @@ -3606,14 +3606,14 @@ True Configure Instrument Effects GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL - GTK_WIN_POS_NONE + GTK_WIN_POS_CENTER_ON_PARENT False True False True False False - GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_NORMAL + GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_DIALOG GDK_GRAVITY_NORTH_WEST True False @@ -3967,14 +3967,14 @@ True Settings GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL - GTK_WIN_POS_NONE + GTK_WIN_POS_CENTER_ON_PARENT False True False True False False - GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_NORMAL + GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_DIALOG GDK_GRAVITY_NORTH_WEST True False @@ -4156,7 +4156,7 @@ Extension Manager GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL - GTK_WIN_POS_NONE + GTK_WIN_POS_CENTER_ON_PARENT True 400 300 @@ -4165,7 +4165,7 @@ True False False - GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_NORMAL + GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_DIALOG GDK_GRAVITY_NORTH_WEST True False Index: Jokosher/JokosherApp.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/JokosherApp.py (revision 852) +++ Jokosher/JokosherApp.py (working copy) @@ -1106,13 +1106,15 @@ def OnContributingDialog(self, widget): self.contribTree = gtk.glade.XML(Globals.GLADE_PATH, "ContributingDialog") + + # grab reference to the ContributingDialog window + self.contribdialog = self.contribTree.get_widget("ContributingDialog") self.topimage = self.contribTree.get_widget("topimage") self.topimage.set_from_file(os.path.join(Globals.IMAGE_PATH, "jokosher-logo.png")) - # grab some references to bits of the GUI - self.contribdialog = self.wTree.get_widget("ContributingDialog") - #self.contribdialog.show_all() + # centre the ContributingDialog window on MainWindow + self.contribdialog.set_transient_for(self.window) #_____________________________________________________________________ --=-hl6ih37HOc1CWl+ZIzog-- Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From laszlok2@gmail.com Sun Oct 29 20:54:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB323B00DB for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:54:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20095-03 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:54:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.205]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB833B000D for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:54:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so992423nzf for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:54:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.176.7 with SMTP id d7mr3663602qbp; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:54:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id q15sm4239172qbq.2006.10.29.17.54.51; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:54:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45455B7B.7080904@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:55:07 -0500 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Reid References: <1162141549.10438.46.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1162141549.10438.46.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.323 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_GT=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.323 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher development list Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Tooltips for most of the interface X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 01:54:53 -0000 Adam Reid wrote: > Hello all, > > This is my first patch ever for any project, but I love what you guys > are doing so I thought I'd help where I can. > > This patch contains tooltips for almost everything. Wow, impressive. :) > Things I haven't > done yet are the balance sliders, zoom sliders, and context sensitivity > for the workspace button. I can't quite wrap my head around how to > manipulate the widget properties from the wTree. Its simple. Just do self.wTree.get_widget("thewidgetname"), where the widget's name is the name given in the glade file. That function call returns the instance of the gtk widget that was created when the gui was loaded by libglade. Say I wanted to change tset the tooltip on a gtk.Label that was in the glade file: self.mylabel = self.wTree.get_widget("mylabel") labeltip = gtk.Tooltips() labeltip.set_tip(self.mylabel, _("Turn click track on"), None) > Let me know if there are any problems with this patch or if I missed > other things. Ya, just one thing. See below. > Index: Jokosher/JokosherApp.py > =================================================================== > --- Jokosher/JokosherApp.py (revision 851) > +++ Jokosher/JokosherApp.py (working copy) > @@ -37,7 +37,9 @@ > gtk.glade.textdomain(Globals.LOCALE_APP) > > self.wTree = gtk.glade.XML(Globals.GLADE_PATH, "MainWindow") > - > + def printTree(): > + for widget in wTree: > + print widget Is the function printTree() supposed to be there? I really don't think so, and even if it should be there, it shouldn't be printing to the console. We use Globals.debug() instead. Since Jono already committed your patch unchanged, I will blame him for the lack of quality control in his patch review. Thanks for the patch adam! Laszlo From jonobacon@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 03:37:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387333B000D for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 03:37:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03428-08 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 03:37:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228A33B0096 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 03:37:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2224272nfa for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 00:37:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.149.13 with SMTP id w13mr4479101hud; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 00:37:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 00:37:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610300037x2676de43tc5e5b84b2d1faf4d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:37:54 +0000 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "Laszlo Pandy" In-Reply-To: <45455B7B.7080904@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1162141549.10438.46.camel@localhost> <45455B7B.7080904@gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.438 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.038, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.438 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher development list , Adam Reid Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] Tooltips for most of the interface X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:37:59 -0000 On 10/30/06, Laszlo Pandy wrote: > Since Jono already committed your patch unchanged, I will blame him for > the lack of quality control in his patch review. In my defence, I did see that. But, in your defense, I forgot to take it out or at least use the debug output system. :P Jono From kelly_worth2003@yahoo.co.uk Mon Oct 30 06:27:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E773B000D for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:27:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17545-09 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:27:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.34]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A042B3B007E for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:27:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 68165 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2006 11:27:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.100.55?) (kelly?worth2003@81.156.35.228 with plain) by smtp003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2006 11:27:37 -0000 From: John Kelly To: Jokosher development list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-k4QcGPxGR/mVpL/0RfEl" Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:27:31 +0000 Message-Id: <1162207651.8370.4.camel@edgy> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.459 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS=0.291] X-Spam-Score: 1.459 X-Spam-Level: * Subject: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] close button in about dialog now destroys window X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:27:43 -0000 --=-k4QcGPxGR/mVpL/0RfEl Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone, This is a very minor fix but now the About Dialog gets destroyed when the close button is clicked. The close button didnt destroy the window before. Regards, John. --=-k4QcGPxGR/mVpL/0RfEl Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=about_dialog_destroy.diff Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=about_dialog_destroy.diff; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: JokosherApp.py =================================================================== --- JokosherApp.py (revision 855) +++ JokosherApp.py (working copy) @@ -265,6 +265,8 @@ dlg = aboutTree.get_widget("AboutDialog") dlg.set_transient_for(self.window) dlg.set_icon(self.icon) + dlg.run() + dlg.destroy() #_____________________________________________________________________ --=-k4QcGPxGR/mVpL/0RfEl-- Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From kelly_worth2003@yahoo.co.uk Mon Oct 30 07:17:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867083B0002 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:17:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21655-04 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:17:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.35]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 52C623B000D for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:17:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 87081 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2006 12:17:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.100.55?) (kelly?worth2003@81.156.35.228 with plain) by smtp004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2006 12:17:10 -0000 From: John Kelly To: Jokosher development list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-C2H3Hhi4+Crv/0Ll2d29" Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:17:07 +0000 Message-Id: <1162210627.10730.2.camel@edgy> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=2.014 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS=0.291] X-Spam-Score: 2.014 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Flag: YES Subject: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] use gtk.gdk.threads_init() as gtk.threads_init() is now deprecated X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:17:13 -0000 --=-C2H3Hhi4+Crv/0Ll2d29 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone, Another minor fix. gtk.gdk.threads_init() is now used as gtk.threads_init() is now deprecated. Regards, John. --=-C2H3Hhi4+Crv/0Ll2d29 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=about_dialog_destroy.diff Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=about_dialog_destroy.diff; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: JokosherApp.py =================================================================== --- JokosherApp.py (revision 855) +++ JokosherApp.py (working copy) @@ -265,6 +265,8 @@ dlg = aboutTree.get_widget("AboutDialog") dlg.set_transient_for(self.window) dlg.set_icon(self.icon) + dlg.run() + dlg.destroy() #_____________________________________________________________________ --=-C2H3Hhi4+Crv/0Ll2d29-- Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From kelly_worth2003@yahoo.co.uk Mon Oct 30 07:18:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF6C3B0002 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:18:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21771-04 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:18:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.96]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED8C13B02C3 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:18:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 87737 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2006 12:18:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.100.55?) (kelly?worth2003@81.156.35.228 with plain) by smtp007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2006 12:18:55 -0000 From: John Kelly To: Jokosher development list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-kqANlqltNUNkaDEZXjWt" Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:18:52 +0000 Message-Id: <1162210732.10730.5.camel@edgy> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=2.014 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS=0.291] X-Spam-Score: 2.014 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Flag: YES Subject: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] use gtk.gdk.threads_init() as gtk.threads_init() is now deprecated X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:18:58 -0000 --=-kqANlqltNUNkaDEZXjWt Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone, gtk.gdk.threads_init() is now used as gtk.threads_init() is now deprecated. oops, ignore the last email. wrong patch attatched John. --=-kqANlqltNUNkaDEZXjWt Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=threads_deprecated.diff Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=threads_deprecated.diff; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: JokosherApp.py =================================================================== --- JokosherApp.py (revision 855) +++ JokosherApp.py (working copy) @@ -1168,7 +1168,7 @@ def main(): MainApp() - gtk.threads_init() + gtk.gdk.threads_init() gtk.main() --=-kqANlqltNUNkaDEZXjWt-- Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From kelly_worth2003@yahoo.co.uk Mon Oct 30 07:56:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44173B02F3 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:56:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24334-02 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:56:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.79]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 602983B002A for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:56:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14046 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2006 12:56:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.100.55?) (kelly?worth2003@81.156.35.228 with plain) by smtp010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2006 12:56:18 -0000 From: John Kelly To: Jokosher development list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-wiAPNeGTXXAgirzAydgB" Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:56:14 +0000 Message-Id: <1162212974.11859.5.camel@edgy> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=2.014 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS=0.291] X-Spam-Score: 2.014 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Flag: YES Subject: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] recent project menu items now have tooltips that contain a label showing the user where their recent projects are stored. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:56:21 -0000 --=-wiAPNeGTXXAgirzAydgB Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone, The recent project menu items now have tooltips. The tooltips contain a label of where the user's projects are stored. Regards, John --=-wiAPNeGTXXAgirzAydgB Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=recentprojects_menuitems_tooltips.diff Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=recentprojects_menuitems_tooltips.diff; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: JokosherApp.py =================================================================== --- JokosherApp.py (revision 855) +++ JokosherApp.py (working copy) @@ -721,6 +721,8 @@ if self.recentprojectitems: for item in self.recentprojectitems: mitem = gtk.MenuItem(item[1]) + tooltips = gtk.Tooltips() + tooltips.set_tip(mitem, item[0], None) self.recentprojectsmenu.append(mitem) mitem.connect("activate", self.OnRecentProjectsItem, item[0], item[1]) --=-wiAPNeGTXXAgirzAydgB-- ___________________________________________________________ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" – The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From atomic0x@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 08:04:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B05423B0138 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:04:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24938-07 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:04:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.196]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F873B018D for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:04:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so1113121nzf for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:04:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.193.8 with SMTP id q8mr4647269qbf; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:04:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.101? ( [72.140.113.171]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id c6sm5159278qbc.2006.10.30.05.04.23; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:04:23 -0800 (PST) From: Adam Reid To: Jokosher development list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-HBGezi/oHBIrTDMj9iEu" Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:04:19 -0500 Message-Id: <1162213459.20978.8.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] bad patch? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:04:25 -0000 --=-HBGezi/oHBIrTDMj9iEu Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All, I checked out rev 855 this morning and there was some problem with the patch that I sent out, because there were patch strings scattered throughout JokosherApp.py. Here is a diff. Adam --=-HBGezi/oHBIrTDMj9iEu Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=reovedpatchstr.patch Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=reovedpatchstr.patch; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py (revision 855) +++ Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py (working copy) @@ -27,6 +27,8 @@ # add click / bpm / signature box self.clickbutton = gtk.ToggleButton("C") self.clicktip = gtk.Tooltips() + self.clicktip.set_tip(self.clickbutton,_("Turn click track on"),None) + self.clicktip = gtk.Tooltips() self.clicktip.set_tip(self.clickbutton, _("Turn click track on"), None) self.clickbutton.connect("toggled", self.OnClick) @@ -217,6 +219,7 @@ #_____________________________________________________________________ def OnClick(self, widget): + self.clicktip.set_tip(self.clickbutton, _("Turn click track off"),None) self.clicktip.set_tip(self.clickbutton, _("Turn click track off"), None) dlg = gtk.MessageDialog(None, gtk.DIALOG_MODAL | gtk.DIALOG_DESTROY_WITH_PARENT, Index: Jokosher/JokosherApp.py =================================================================== --- Jokosher/JokosherApp.py (revision 855) +++ Jokosher/JokosherApp.py (working copy) @@ -37,7 +37,6 @@ gtk.glade.textdomain(Globals.LOCALE_APP) self.wTree = gtk.glade.XML(Globals.GLADE_PATH, "MainWindow") - #Connect event handlers signals = { "on_MainWindow_destroy" : self.OnDestroy, --=-HBGezi/oHBIrTDMj9iEu-- From chris-procter@talk21.com Mon Oct 30 08:24:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6064F3B00B5 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:24:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25880-09 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:24:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.207]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8843A3B036A for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:24:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 70996 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Oct 2006 13:24:56 -0000 Message-ID: <20061030132456.70994.qmail@web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.245.38.105] by web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:24:56 GMT Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:24:56 +0000 (GMT) From: chris procter To: Jokosher development list In-Reply-To: <1162210732.10730.5.camel@edgy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.677 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.768, BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_GT=0.077, TW_YG=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -1.677 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] use gtk.gdk.threads_init() as gtk.threads_init() is now deprecated X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:24:59 -0000 Both this and the About dialog patch fix issues that occur in Edgy which but not in Dapper (due to changes between pygtk 2.8 and 2.10 iirc) so they need to be tested under Dapper, to ensure they dont break stuff. The about dialog should be fine, but the gtk.threads_init() -> gtk.gdk.threads_init() could be a problem chris --- John Kelly wrote: > Hello everyone, > > gtk.gdk.threads_init() is now used as > gtk.threads_init() is now deprecated. > > oops, ignore the last email. wrong patch attatched > > John. > > Index: JokosherApp.py > =================================================================== > --- JokosherApp.py (revision 855) > +++ JokosherApp.py (working copy) > @@ -1168,7 +1168,7 @@ > > def main(): > MainApp() > - gtk.threads_init() > + gtk.gdk.threads_init() > gtk.main() > > > > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From laszlok2@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 08:30:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C78C3B0002 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:30:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26467-04 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:30:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374773B02F3 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:30:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so1119509nzf for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:30:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.38.13 with SMTP id q13mr4611792qbj; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:30:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id q19sm5207878qbq.2006.10.30.05.30.35; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:30:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4545FE89.1000703@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:30:49 -0500 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Reid References: <1162213459.20978.8.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1162213459.20978.8.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher development list Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] bad patch? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:30:40 -0000 Adam Reid wrote: > Hello All, > > I checked out rev 855 this morning and there was some problem with the > patch that I sent out, because there were patch strings scattered > throughout JokosherApp.py. I don't see the problem. Your last patch was committed and this new patch just duplicates some things that are already committed. > > Here is a diff. > > Adam > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Index: Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py > =================================================================== > --- Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py (revision 855) > +++ Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py (working copy) > @@ -27,6 +27,8 @@ > # add click / bpm / signature box > self.clickbutton = gtk.ToggleButton("C") > self.clicktip = gtk.Tooltips() > + self.clicktip.set_tip(self.clickbutton,_("Turn click track on"),None) > + self.clicktip = gtk.Tooltips() > self.clicktip.set_tip(self.clickbutton, _("Turn click track on"), None) See, both those lines are just duplicates of what came before/after it. The only difference it that there is a space after the comma which I added. Laszlo From laszlok2@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 08:42:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800AD3B0337 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:42:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27077-06 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:42:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.236]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1FC3B0002 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:42:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i28so1312825wxd for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:42:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.27.6 with SMTP id a6mr763544aga; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:42:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e10sm5195502qbe.2006.10.30.05.42.53; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:42:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4546016C.7080303@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:43:08 -0500 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chris procter References: <20061030132456.70994.qmail@web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20061030132456.70994.qmail@web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.246 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_GT=0.077, TW_YG=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.246 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher development list Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] use gtk.gdk.threads_init() as gtk.threads_init() is now deprecated X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:42:59 -0000 chris procter wrote: > Both this and the About dialog patch fix issues that > occur in Edgy which but not in Dapper (due to changes > between pygtk 2.8 and 2.10 iirc) so they need to be > tested under Dapper, to ensure they dont break stuff. > > The about dialog should be fine, but the > gtk.threads_init() -> gtk.gdk.threads_init() could be > a problem > IIRC threads init allows you to use python threads in the gobject system. Since we don't actually use python threads anymore, I don't think we even need this, so I've removed it in SVN. Laszlo From mike@mikeasoft.com Mon Oct 30 08:45:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B973B0078 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:45:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27528-01 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:45:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from tallyho.bytemark.co.uk (tallyho.bytemark.co.uk [80.68.81.166]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD493B0395 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:44:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mikeasoft.com ([80.68.92.185]) by tallyho.bytemark.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GeXQo-0002f8-Cg for jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:44:02 +0000 Received: from mike by mikeasoft.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GeXY8-0003gF-00 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:51:36 +0000 Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:51:36 +0000 To: Jokosher development list Message-ID: <20061030135136.GD20291@mikeasoft.com> Mail-Followup-To: Jokosher development list References: <1162213459.20978.8.camel@localhost> <4545FE89.1000703@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4545FE89.1000703@gmail.com> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (Linux) From: Michael Sheldon X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.797 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.764, BAYES_05=-1.11, TW_SV=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -1.797 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] bad patch? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:45:44 -0000 On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 08:30:49AM -0500, Laszlo Pandy wrote: > Adam Reid wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > I checked out rev 855 this morning and there was some problem with the > > patch that I sent out, because there were patch strings scattered > > throughout JokosherApp.py. > > I don't see the problem. Your last patch was committed and this new > patch just duplicates some things that are already committed. Hi Adam, Chances are that there was a collision just with your local copy. See if there are files such as TimeLineBar.mine, TimeLineBar.r855, etc. these are created by svn when there is a collision and contain the different versions of the file. If there's nothing in your local copy you want to keep just delete TimeLineBar.* and run svn up again. Cheers, Mike. > > > > > Here is a diff. > > > > Adam > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Index: Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py > > =================================================================== > > --- Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py (revision 855) > > +++ Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py (working copy) > > @@ -27,6 +27,8 @@ > > # add click / bpm / signature box > > self.clickbutton = gtk.ToggleButton("C") > > self.clicktip = gtk.Tooltips() > > + self.clicktip.set_tip(self.clickbutton,_("Turn click track on"),None) > > + self.clicktip = gtk.Tooltips() > > self.clicktip.set_tip(self.clickbutton, _("Turn click track on"), None) > > See, both those lines are just duplicates of what came before/after it. > The only difference it that there is a space after the comma which I added. > > Laszlo > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > -- Michael Sheldon http://www.mikeasoft.com From atomic0x@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 09:32:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67793B007D for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:32:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30161-10 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:32:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.199]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577CD3B00CA for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:32:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so1133909nzf for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:32:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.78.1 with SMTP id f1mr4909568pyl; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:32:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.134.18 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:32:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:32:07 -0500 From: "Adam Reid" To: "Jokosher development list" In-Reply-To: <20061030135136.GD20291@mikeasoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1162213459.20978.8.camel@localhost> <4545FE89.1000703@gmail.com> <20061030135136.GD20291@mikeasoft.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.323 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_SV=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.323 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] bad patch? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:32:12 -0000 Yep, Sorry about that, I'm still learning. It was just local stuff that caused the problems. Cheers, Adam On 10/30/06, Michael Sheldon wrote: > On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 08:30:49AM -0500, Laszlo Pandy wrote: > > Adam Reid wrote: > > > Hello All, > > > > > > I checked out rev 855 this morning and there was some problem with the > > > patch that I sent out, because there were patch strings scattered > > > throughout JokosherApp.py. > > > > I don't see the problem. Your last patch was committed and this new > > patch just duplicates some things that are already committed. > > Hi Adam, > > Chances are that there was a collision just with your local copy. See if there are files such as TimeLineBar.mine, TimeLineBar.r855, etc. these are created by svn when there is a collision and contain the different versions of the file. If there's nothing in your local copy you want to keep just delete TimeLineBar.* and run svn up again. > > Cheers, > Mike. > > > > > > > > > Here is a diff. > > > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > Index: Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py > > > =================================================================== > > > --- Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py (revision 855) > > > +++ Jokosher/TimeLineBar.py (working copy) > > > @@ -27,6 +27,8 @@ > > > # add click / bpm / signature box > > > self.clickbutton = gtk.ToggleButton("C") > > > self.clicktip = gtk.Tooltips() > > > + self.clicktip.set_tip(self.clickbutton,_("Turn click track on"),None) > > > + self.clicktip = gtk.Tooltips() > > > self.clicktip.set_tip(self.clickbutton, _("Turn click track on"), None) > > > > See, both those lines are just duplicates of what came before/after it. > > The only difference it that there is a space after the comma which I added. > > > > Laszlo > > _______________________________________________ > > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > > > > -- > Michael Sheldon > http://www.mikeasoft.com > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > From john@thegreens.co.uk Mon Oct 30 09:37:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03D53B03AD for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:37:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30616-05 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:36:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8DA093B0366 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:36:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 51369 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2006 14:36:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2006 14:36:56 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 37A0379006; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:36:56 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:36:56 +0000 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061030143655.GA17524@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <1162210732.10730.5.camel@edgy> <20061030132456.70994.qmail@web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061030132456.70994.qmail@web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.093 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.283, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069, TW_GT=0.077, TW_YG=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -1.093 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] use gtk.gdk.threads_init() as gtk.threads_init() is now deprecated X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:37:02 -0000 On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 01:24:56PM +0000, chris procter wrote: > > Both this and the About dialog patch fix issues that > occur in Edgy which but not in Dapper (due to changes > between pygtk 2.8 and 2.10 iirc) so they need to be > tested under Dapper, to ensure they dont break stuff. > The about dialog patch is just fine in Dapper. -- John Green From jonobacon@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 09:40:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5742E3B016D for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:40:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30835-03 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:40:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296303B0222 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:40:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1147173ugb for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:40:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.171.13 with SMTP id t13mr4911611hue; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:40:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:40:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610300640k586ae2ffr40e0796781d8c157@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:40:38 +0000 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "Adam Reid" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1162213459.20978.8.camel@localhost> <4545FE89.1000703@gmail.com> <20061030135136.GD20291@mikeasoft.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.213 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.187, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.213 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher development list Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] bad patch? X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:40:47 -0000 On 10/30/06, Adam Reid wrote: > Yep, > > Sorry about that, I'm still learning. It was just local stuff that > caused the problems. No worries! We are all learning. :) Jono From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 09:54:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7351E3B01BC for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:54:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31519-01 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:54:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457D03B0329 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:54:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2323365nfa for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:54:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.124.10 with SMTP id w10mr498397buc; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:54:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.115.13 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:54:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610300654h4f7a3107w25e2d269c2e5a7c6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:54:21 +0000 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Laszlo Pandy" In-Reply-To: <4546016C.7080303@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061030132456.70994.qmail@web86610.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4546016C.7080303@gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9ed54586b1fc8108 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.324 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.076, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.324 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher development list , chris procter Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] use gtk.gdk.threads_init() as gtk.threads_init() is now deprecated X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:54:28 -0000 > IIRC threads init allows you to use python threads in the gobject > system. Since we don't actually use python threads anymore, I don't > think we even need this, so I've removed it in SVN. I need them in the freesound plugin, but that does its own threads_init(). sil -- In 1988 there was the war, and after that there were no more roses. Not for anybody. -- "V For Vendetta", Alan Moore From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 10:26:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C69363B007D for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:26:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00704-03 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:26:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6563B0078 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:25:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2331542nfa for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:25:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.20.15 with SMTP id x15mr5849974nfi; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:25:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:25:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 17:25:56 +0200 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: "Jokosher Devel List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.491 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.950, BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.491 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] 02 banner - a bit early! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:26:05 -0000 I made a small web banner for 0.2 release, a bit early, I know, but I just felt like it :) http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-banner-01.png -- Panos Laganakos From davmor2@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 10:29:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7ABE3B0078 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:29:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00736-10 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:29:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2323B3B00A1 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:28:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1161558ugb for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:28:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.93.7 with SMTP id v7mr4329049ugl; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:28:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.216.14 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:28:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36feaa6c0610300728l2430c786kefc195266fc50e47@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:28:53 +0000 From: "David Morley" To: "Panos Laganakos" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.541 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.541 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Devel List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] 02 banner - a bit early! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:29:04 -0000 On 30/10/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > I made a small web banner for 0.2 release, a bit early, I know, but I > just felt like it :) > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-banner-01.png > Nice! -- Seek That Thy Might Know From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 10:42:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F993B0314 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:42:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02554-02 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:42:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB453B0389 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:42:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2335740nfa for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:42:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.118.2 with SMTP id q2mr592827buc; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:41:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.115.13 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:41:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610300741o7ce26f41t7db36c18462a17d6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:41:59 +0000 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Panos Laganakos" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2f64b19248d95eeb X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.326 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.074, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.326 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Devel List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] 02 banner - a bit early! X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:42:44 -0000 On 10/30/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: >http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-banner-01.png Quality. :) We need to decide which free software musician gets to be in this release, too ;) sil -- what's the point in embedding emacs anyway? it's like embedding rocket ship into toyota camry From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 11:05:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245B23B01EE for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:05:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04936-01 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:05:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37353B00A1 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:05:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2341990nfa for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:05:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.230.18 with SMTP id c18mr5865040nfh; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:05:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:05:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 18:05:26 +0200 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: "Jokosher Devel List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.195 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-1.209, BAYES_40=-0.185, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.195 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher Powered By icon X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:05:42 -0000 Enjoy: http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-01.png -- Panos Laganakos From jonobacon@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 11:14:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7AC3B028B for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:14:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05963-02 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:14:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833743B034E for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:14:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 67so276802wri for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:14:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.201.2 with SMTP id y2mr5108178huf; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:14:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610300814w1171e37dkd6a148b2b2c3536d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:14:33 +0000 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "Panos Laganakos" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.693 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.782, BAYES_05=-1.11, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.693 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Devel List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher Powered By icon X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:14:43 -0000 On 10/30/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > Enjoy: > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-01.png Looks great, but could you use the "Audio Production Made Simple" strapline instead. :) Panos - your work is awesome. :) Jono From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 11:15:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536653B0158 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:15:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05988-03 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:15:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F693B022A for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:15:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2344463nfa for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:15:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.10.3 with SMTP id n3mr5930369nfi; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:15:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:15:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 18:15:03 +0200 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: "Jokosher Devel List" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.171 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-1.185, BAYES_40=-0.185, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.171 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher Powered By icon X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:15:08 -0000 And for our death/black metalheads and the rest of black souls: http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-02.png On 10/30/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > Enjoy: > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-01.png > > -- > Panos Laganakos > -- Panos Laganakos From cathalobrien@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 11:28:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4D43B0331 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:28:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07400-03 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:28:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB2AD3B0188 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:28:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so1162546nzf for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:28:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.21.1 with SMTP id y1mr5234724pyi; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:28:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.45.7 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:28:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2a7a70a10610300828x38c5a67qf1098b9a2615569@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:28:19 +0000 From: "Cathal O'Brien" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_22108_18439543.1162225699025" References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.406 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.406 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher Powered By icon X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:28:26 -0000 ------=_Part_22108_18439543.1162225699025 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Brilliant stuff, laughed my ass off at the metal logo :-) -- Cathal O'Brien On 30/10/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > > And for our death/black metalheads and the rest of black souls: > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-02.png > > > On 10/30/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > > Enjoy: > > > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-01.png > > > > -- > > Panos Laganakos > > > > > -- > Panos Laganakos > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > ------=_Part_22108_18439543.1162225699025 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Brilliant stuff, laughed my ass off at the metal logo :-)


--
Cathal O'Brien

On 30/10/06, Panos Laganakos < panos.laganakos@gmail.com> wrote:
And for our death/black metalheads and the rest of black souls:

http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-02.png


On 10/30/06, Panos Laganakos <panos.laganakos@gmail.com > wrote:
> Enjoy:
>
> http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-01.png
>
> --
> Panos Laganakos
>


--
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------=_Part_22108_18439543.1162225699025-- From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 12:11:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904993B0012 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:11:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11715-05 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:11:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8BA3B00CE for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:11:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2360518nfa for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:11:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.254.10 with SMTP id b10mr3098145nfi; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:11:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:11:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 19:11:19 +0200 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: "Cathal O'Brien" In-Reply-To: <2a7a70a10610300828x38c5a67qf1098b9a2615569@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2a7a70a10610300828x38c5a67qf1098b9a2615569@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.355 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.045, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.355 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher Powered By icon X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 17:11:26 -0000 I'm glad you like 'em guys. Here's one with the official motto: http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-03.png Now let's spread them around the web :) On 10/30/06, Cathal O'Brien wrote: > Brilliant stuff, laughed my ass off at the metal logo :-) > > > -- > Cathal O'Brien > > > On 30/10/06, Panos Laganakos < panos.laganakos@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > And for our death/black metalheads and the rest of black souls: > > > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-02.png > > > > > > On 10/30/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > > > Enjoy: > > > > > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-01.png > > > > > > -- > > > Panos Laganakos > > > > > > > > > -- > > Panos Laganakos > > _______________________________________________ > > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > > > -- Panos Laganakos From ensonic@hora-obscura.de Mon Oct 30 14:48:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC0F3B0099 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:48:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24994-09 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:48:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp4.pp.htv.fi (smtp4.pp.htv.fi [213.243.153.38]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1A03B00C5 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:48:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.133] (cs181069046.pp.htv.fi [82.181.69.46]) by smtp4.pp.htv.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4D25BC0E5; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:48:36 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <45465714.8070502@hora-obscura.de> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:48:36 +0200 From: Stefan Kost User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20060911 SUSE/1.0.5-1.1 SeaMonkey/1.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Kelly References: <1162212974.11859.5.camel@edgy> In-Reply-To: <1162212974.11859.5.camel@edgy> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.449 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.449 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher development list Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] recent project menu items now have tooltips that contain a label showing the user where their recent projects are stored. X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 19:48:43 -0000 Hi, John Kelly wrote: > Hello everyone, > > The recent project menu items now have tooltips. The tooltips contain a label of where the user's projects are stored. > > Regards, > John > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Index: JokosherApp.py > =================================================================== > --- JokosherApp.py (revision 855) > +++ JokosherApp.py (working copy) > @@ -721,6 +721,8 @@ > if self.recentprojectitems: > for item in self.recentprojectitems: > mitem = gtk.MenuItem(item[1]) > + tooltips = gtk.Tooltips() > + tooltips.set_tip(mitem, item[0], None) > self.recentprojectsmenu.append(mitem) > mitem.connect("activate", self.OnRecentProjectsItem, item[0], item[1]) > > You can share the Tooltips object. Just move tooltips = gtk.Tooltips() out of the loop. Stefan From kelly_worth2003@yahoo.co.uk Mon Oct 30 16:39:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02FE43B01BA for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:39:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31811-04 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:39:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.79]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A5C533B0017 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:39:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 71877 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2006 21:39:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.100.55?) (kelly?worth2003@81.156.35.228 with plain) by smtp010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2006 21:39:04 -0000 From: John Kelly To: Jokosher development list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-bdkpslRHLAzchsz/WTh7" Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:39:01 +0000 Message-Id: <1162244341.27352.11.camel@edgy> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS=0.291] X-Spam-Score: -0.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] recent project menu items tooltips, about dialog close button X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:39:11 -0000 --=-bdkpslRHLAzchsz/WTh7 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone, Two very minor changes. John Green tested out the about dialog patch and reported no problems with it. The recent project menu items now have tooltips containing a label on where the project is stored. John. --=-bdkpslRHLAzchsz/WTh7 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=changes.diff Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=changes.diff; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: JokosherApp.py =================================================================== --- JokosherApp.py (revision 856) +++ JokosherApp.py (working copy) @@ -265,6 +265,8 @@ dlg = aboutTree.get_widget("AboutDialog") dlg.set_transient_for(self.window) dlg.set_icon(self.icon) + dlg.run() + dlg.destroy() #_____________________________________________________________________ @@ -717,10 +719,12 @@ menuitems = self.recentprojectsmenu.get_children() for c in menuitems: self.recentprojectsmenu.remove(c) - + + tooltips = gtk.Tooltips() if self.recentprojectitems: for item in self.recentprojectitems: mitem = gtk.MenuItem(item[1]) + tooltips.set_tip(mitem, item[0], None) self.recentprojectsmenu.append(mitem) mitem.connect("activate", self.OnRecentProjectsItem, item[0], item[1]) --=-bdkpslRHLAzchsz/WTh7-- Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 17:44:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44883B0370 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 17:44:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05984-10 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 17:44:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14FB3B01BA for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 17:44:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so51595nfa for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:44:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.92.18 with SMTP id u18mr292237nfl.1162248241006; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:44:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:44:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 00:44:00 +0200 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: "Cathal O'Brien" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2a7a70a10610300828x38c5a67qf1098b9a2615569@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.356 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.044, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.356 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher Powered By icon X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 22:44:05 -0000 Made two more and I put em up here so you can view them all: http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher.html Enjoy! On 10/30/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > I'm glad you like 'em guys. > > Here's one with the official motto: > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-03.png > > Now let's spread them around the web :) > > > On 10/30/06, Cathal O'Brien wrote: > > Brilliant stuff, laughed my ass off at the metal logo :-) > > > > > > -- > > Cathal O'Brien > > > > > > On 30/10/06, Panos Laganakos < panos.laganakos@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > And for our death/black metalheads and the rest of black souls: > > > > > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-02.png > > > > > > > > > On 10/30/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > > > > Enjoy: > > > > > > > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-01.png > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Panos Laganakos > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Panos Laganakos > > > _______________________________________________ > > > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > > > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > > > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > > > > > > > > > -- > Panos Laganakos > -- Panos Laganakos From phoscy@gmail.com Mon Oct 30 22:40:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2182A3B00E2 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 22:40:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19777-06 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 22:40:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EEA13B00A5 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 22:40:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1351454ugb for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 19:40:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.117.2 with SMTP id u2mr5364181ugm; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 19:40:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.104? ( [213.65.146.245]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i39sm4295512ugd.2006.10.30.19.40.33; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 19:40:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4546C5BF.4060501@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 04:40:47 +0100 From: trin / oscar User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <2a7a70a10610300828x38c5a67qf1098b9a2615569@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000008060909090503020305" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.296 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-1.104, BAYES_20=-0.74, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY=0.214, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.296 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Jokosher Powered By icon X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:40:37 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000008060909090503020305 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Panos Laganakos wrote: > Made two more and I put em up here so you can view them all: > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher.html > > Enjoy! > > > On 10/30/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: > >> I'm glad you like 'em guys. >> >> Here's one with the official motto: >> >> http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-03.png >> >> Now let's spread them around the web :) >> >> >> On 10/30/06, Cathal O'Brien wrote: >> >>> Brilliant stuff, laughed my ass off at the metal logo :-) >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cathal O'Brien >>> >>> >>> On 30/10/06, Panos Laganakos < panos.laganakos@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> And for our death/black metalheads and the rest of black souls: >>>> >>>> http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-02.png >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10/30/06, Panos Laganakos wrote: >>>> >>>>> Enjoy: >>>>> >>>>> http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-01.png >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Panos Laganakos >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Panos Laganakos >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> jokosher-devel-list mailing list >>>> jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org >>>> >>>> >>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> jokosher-devel-list mailing list >>> jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org >>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Panos Laganakos >> >> > > > Real nice! good work! i made this one a while ago, but i kinda gave it up since i didn't have anything to write more than jokosher on it; http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/trinimagedump/banner.png . //Oscar Carlstedt - trin --------------000008060909090503020305 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Panos Laganakos wrote: 
Made two more and I put em up here so you can view them all:

http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher.html

Enjoy!


On 10/30/06, Panos Laganakos <panos.laganakos@gmail.com> wrote:
  
I'm glad you like 'em guys.

Here's one with the official motto:

http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-03.png

Now let's spread them around the web :)


On 10/30/06, Cathal O'Brien <cathalobrien@gmail.com> wrote:
    
Brilliant stuff, laughed my ass off at the metal logo :-)


--
Cathal O'Brien


On 30/10/06, Panos Laganakos < panos.laganakos@gmail.com> wrote:
      
And for our death/black metalheads and the rest of black souls:

http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-02.png


On 10/30/06, Panos Laganakos <panos.laganakos@gmail.com > wrote:
        
Enjoy:

http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jok-poweredby-01.png

--
Panos Laganakos

          
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Real nice! good work!
i made this one a while ago, but i kinda gave it up since i didn't have anything to write more than jokosher on it; http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/trinimagedump/banner.png .

//Oscar Carlstedt - trin
--------------000008060909090503020305-- From jonobacon@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 03:56:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30633B0075 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:56:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32620-03 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:56:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03353B0017 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:56:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1394382ugb for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 00:56:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.200.3 with SMTP id x3mr6444752huf; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 00:56:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.131.20 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 00:56:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1c3fe48e0610310056t52e4fecj32c7dbdfee689a7e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:56:51 +0000 From: "Jono Bacon" To: "Jokosher Devel List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.216 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.184, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.216 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Art for 0.2 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: jono@jonobacon.org List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:56:54 -0000 Hi all, Right, we are heading towards 0.2, and there are a number of bits of art that we really need sorting out. The sooner these are done, the sooner the screenshots can be done for the website, docs and suchlike. Could the art team take a look at http://jokosher.python-hosting.com/wiki/ArtTeam and work on the items in the Essential list. I would like to get all of that art in J if possible. Otherwise, I will need to make the icons, and that will suck like you have not experienced. Jono From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 06:56:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6F413B00C8 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:56:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14841-08 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:56:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C313B008F for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:56:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so261212nfa for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:56:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.210.20 with SMTP id i20mr154605nfg.1162295792656; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:56:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:56:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:56:32 +0200 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: jono@jonobacon.org In-Reply-To: <1c3fe48e0610310056t52e4fecj32c7dbdfee689a7e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1c3fe48e0610310056t52e4fecj32c7dbdfee689a7e@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.357 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.043, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.357 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Devel List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Art for 0.2 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:56:39 -0000 http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher.html I made an extension and extension-manager icons, check em out. On 10/31/06, Jono Bacon wrote: > Hi all, > > Right, we are heading towards 0.2, and there are a number of bits of > art that we really need sorting out. The sooner these are done, the > sooner the screenshots can be done for the website, docs and suchlike. > > Could the art team take a look at > http://jokosher.python-hosting.com/wiki/ArtTeam and work on the items > in the Essential list. I would like to get all of that art in J if > possible. Otherwise, I will need to make the icons, and that will suck > like you have not experienced. > > Jono > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > -- Panos Laganakos From pecisk@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 07:15:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDB33B0434 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:15:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16136-09 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:15:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E793B0430 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:14:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1430835ugb for ; 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Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:22:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16563-09 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:22:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B5A3B0073 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:22:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so1389984nzf for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 04:22:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.219.17 with SMTP id w17mr4343974qbq; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 04:22:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e13sm4151861qbe.2006.10.31.04.22.47; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 04:22:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45474054.4080803@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:23:48 -0500 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Panos Laganakos References: <1c3fe48e0610310056t52e4fecj32c7dbdfee689a7e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Jokosher Devel List Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Art for 0.2 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 12:22:55 -0000 Panos Laganakos wrote: > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher.html > > I made an extension and extension-manager icons, check em out. > Very nice! I really like these icons, but can one of the Art guys who knows more than me make sure they fit in with the Tango guidelines and the rest of our custom icons? The first one (just the puzzle piece) is awesome, but I wonder whether the second one will scale as scale as well. Maybe the little pieces taken out of it could be bigger? Laszlo From sinisterguy@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 08:04:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA0573B00B0 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:04:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19037-10 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:04:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5AB3B007E for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:04:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so1399953nzf for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.127.7 with SMTP id e7mr6660100pyn; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.131.15 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:04:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:04:25 -0500 From: Lukas To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Extension Preferences... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:04:30 -0000 Hey guys, I should have a bit of time to hack tonight just before the feature/string freeze, so I'm planning on implementing extension preferences. The way i have it thought out right now is that we execute a preferences() function in the extension or something and the extension handles everything else from there. Also, for preferences files, i think we should have a ./jokosher/extensions/config directory to store everything in. What do you guys think. Should I just do that (execute preferences()) or should Jokosher handle more? -- God Bless, Luke From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 08:09:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C41623B00B0 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:09:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19376-03 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:09:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D9A3B008F for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:09:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so280509nfa for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:09:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.98.13 with SMTP id v13mr1037177bub; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:09:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.115.13 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:09:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610310509s2d4295ao5cbaa354e63839c6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:09:32 +0000 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: Lukas , "Jokosher Devel List" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: bed4d3d60c812774 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.328 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.072, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.328 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Extension Preferences... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:09:39 -0000 > I should have a bit of time to hack tonight just before the > feature/string freeze, so I'm planning on implementing extension > preferences. Extensions already have preferences. See API.get_config_value and API.set_config_value. The Freesound extension uses them. I appreciate that this is not yet documented :) sil -- "Willow hath gat hare off rede And doth geev soopurb heede. Buffy, as written by Geoffrey Chaucer, the dirty mediaeval git." -- Andy Spencer, after Certic From laszlok2@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 08:10:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D953B0071 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:10:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19274-08 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:10:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.203]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57883B00B0 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:10:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so1401507nzf for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:10:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.154.4 with SMTP id g4mr6740213qbo; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:10:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [72.57.18.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e11sm849946qbc.2006.10.31.05.10.26; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:10:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45474B80.4070401@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:11:28 -0500 From: Laszlo Pandy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lukas References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Extension Preferences... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:10:34 -0000 Lukas wrote: > Hey guys, > > I should have a bit of time to hack tonight just before the > feature/string freeze, so I'm planning on implementing extension > preferences. The way i have it thought out right now is that we > execute a preferences() function in the extension or something and the > extension handles everything else from there. Also, for preferences > files, i think we should have a ./jokosher/extensions/config directory > to store everything in. What do you guys think. Should I just do that > (execute preferences()) or should Jokosher handle more? > This is exactly what I was thinking. Just call connfig() or prefs() or something and have the extension handle the rest. There is already a function in the API for saving and loading key/value pairs and I think this used ~/.jokosher/extensions/config or something. Laszlo From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 08:32:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985F13B0071 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:32:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20822-01 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:32:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B303B008F for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:32:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so286838nfa for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:32:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.118.2 with SMTP id q2mr1042156buc; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:32:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.115.13 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:32:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610310532r5d221a21jbfc8c1638a351a6f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:32:28 +0000 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: "Laszlo Pandy" In-Reply-To: <45474B80.4070401@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45474B80.4070401@gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6ac376b7e5d69443 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.585 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.674, BAYES_05=-1.11, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.585 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, Lukas Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Extension Preferences... X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:32:35 -0000 > This is exactly what I was thinking. Just call connfig() or prefs() or > something and have the extension handle the rest. There is already a > function in the API for saving and loading key/value pairs and I think > this used ~/.jokosher/extensions/config or something. Yep. On loading an extension, check whether it has a preferences() method. If it doesn't, then grey out the Preferences button in the Extension Manager when that extension is highlighted (or otherwise disable however you were going to make prefs available). If it does, then just call thisextension.preferences(). If the extension wants to create a Gtk window to ask for preferences then it is welcome to do so. That's what Freesound does (sort of). sil -- A man, a plan, a canoe, pasta, heros, rajahs, a coloratura, maps, snipe, percale, macaroni, a gag, a banana bag, a tan, a tag, a banana bag again (or a camel), a crepe, pins, Spam, a rut, a Rolo, cash, a jar, sore hats, a peon, a canal -- Panama! From tim.sheridan@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 08:54:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB033B0469 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:54:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22150-08 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:54:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.200]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC9E3B0441 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:53:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so1411932nzf for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:53:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.233.16 with SMTP id k16mr6801835qbr; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:52:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.126.13 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:52:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <359919d10610310552l44e1d02eseb9ec03a16f18120@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:52:58 +0000 From: "Tim Sheridan" To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Initiation script naming X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:54:09 -0000 Hey guys, Could the file name of the Jokosher initiation script be changed from 'jokosher' to something else (perhaps 'jokosher.run'?) that will allow it to coexist with the 'Jokosher' directory when stored on a non-case-sensitive file system; I'd like to be able to carry round a copy of the SVN tree on my USB flash drive (VFAT formatted), but presently I'm unable to do so. Cheers, Tim S. From pecisk@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 09:04:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2CB83B0181 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:04:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23651-05 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:04:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76CB73B00B0 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:04:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1461788ugb for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:04:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.21.11 with SMTP id y11mr6145566ugi; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:04:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.27.5 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:04:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:04:37 +0200 From: "Peteris Krisjanis" To: "Tim Sheridan" In-Reply-To: <359919d10610310552l44e1d02eseb9ec03a16f18120@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-13; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline References: <359919d10610310552l44e1d02eseb9ec03a16f18120@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.176 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, MIME_BASE64_NO_NAME=0.224, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.176 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Initiation script naming X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:04:43 -0000 SU1ITywgam9rb3NoZXIgd2l0aCBzbWFsbCBsZXR0ZXJzIHdvdWxkIGJlIGZpbmUsIHRvIGNvbXBs eSBVbml4IGJpbmFyeQpuYW1pbmcgc3R5bGUgOikKClAuCgoyMDA2LzEwLzMxLCBUaW0gU2hlcmlk YW4gPHRpbS5zaGVyaWRhbkBnbWFpbC5jb20+Ogo+IEhleSBndXlzLAo+Cj4gQ291bGQgdGhlIGZp bGUgbmFtZSBvZiB0aGUgSm9rb3NoZXIgaW5pdGlhdGlvbiBzY3JpcHQgYmUgY2hhbmdlZCBmcm9t Cj4gJ2pva29zaGVyJyB0byBzb21ldGhpbmcgZWxzZSAocGVyaGFwcyAnam9rb3NoZXIucnVuJz8p IHRoYXQgd2lsbCBhbGxvdwo+IGl0IHRvIGNvZXhpc3Qgd2l0aCB0aGUgJ0pva29zaGVyJyBkaXJl Y3Rvcnkgd2hlbiBzdG9yZWQgb24gYQo+IG5vbi1jYXNlLXNlbnNpdGl2ZSBmaWxlIHN5c3RlbTsg SSdkIGxpa2UgdG8gYmUgYWJsZSB0byBjYXJyeSByb3VuZCBhCj4gY29weSBvZiB0aGUgU1ZOIHRy ZWUgb24gbXkgVVNCIGZsYXNoIGRyaXZlIChWRkFUIGZvcm1hdHRlZCksIGJ1dAo+IHByZXNlbnRs eSBJJ20gdW5hYmxlIHRvIGRvIHNvLgo+Cj4gQ2hlZXJzLAo+IFRpbSBTLgo+IF9fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCj4gam9rb3NoZXItZGV2ZWwtbGlz dCBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QKPiBqb2tvc2hlci1kZXZlbC1saXN0QGdub21lLm9yZwo+IGh0dHA6Ly9t YWlsLmdub21lLm9yZy9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZvL2pva29zaGVyLWRldmVsLWxpc3QKPgoKCi0t IAptb3J0aWdpIHRlbXBvClDndGVyaXMgS3Jp8GribmlzCg== From john@thegreens.co.uk Tue Oct 31 09:18:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8083B00AB for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:18:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24344-03 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:18:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.199]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9CCF43B006A for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:18:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 95915 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2006 14:18:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Oct 2006 14:18:39 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 55DEE79018; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:18:39 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:18:39 +0000 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061031141839.GA23575@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <359919d10610310552l44e1d02eseb9ec03a16f18120@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.027 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.857, BAYES_40=-0.185, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: 0.027 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Initiation script naming X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:18:45 -0000 On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 04:04:37PM +0200, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: > IMHO, jokosher with small letters would be fine, to comply Unix binary > naming style :) > The point made is that this makes it impossible to carry round on a flash keyring or similar as they are all FAT and stupid so the script name clashes with the directory in this case. I don't know if anyone ever thought of that. We want the script to be jokosher but we also want the python package to be Jokosher. I don't really know what to say. -- John Green From nisses.mail@home.se Tue Oct 31 09:37:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F623B00E3 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:37:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25964-07 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:37:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from av9-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av9-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800163B008E for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:37:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by av9-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 8D4DC382B3; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:37:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.93]) by av9-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3753822A; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:37:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.130] (h151n2fls33o839.telia.com [217.211.214.151]) by smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2391537E47; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:37:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45475F91.7060700@home.se> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:37:05 +0100 From: Andreas Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060918) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <1c3fe48e0610310056t52e4fecj32c7dbdfee689a7e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1c3fe48e0610310056t52e4fecj32c7dbdfee689a7e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.469 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.729, BAYES_20=-0.74] X-Spam-Score: -1.469 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jono@jonobacon.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Art for 0.2 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:37:15 -0000 Jono Bacon wrote: > Hi all, > > Right, we are heading towards 0.2, and there are a number of bits of > art that we really need sorting out. The sooner these are done, the > sooner the screenshots can be done for the website, docs and suchlike. > > Could the art team take a look at > http://jokosher.python-hosting.com/wiki/ArtTeam and work on the items > in the Essential list. I would like to get all of that art in J if > possible. Otherwise, I will need to make the icons, and that will suck > like you have not experienced. > > Jono > > Ok, started working on the metronome, will be finished in a hour or so. I'll try to nail down as many as possible on the list, but I can't do it alone! I totally need help from the artist dudes. Lurking no more! Oscar? - Andreas From panos.laganakos@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 10:20:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FBF93B0171 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:20:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28205-03 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:20:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD02C3B006A for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:19:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so315383nfa for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:19:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.90.4 with SMTP id s4mr1612682nfl.1162307998553; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:19:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.40.7 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:19:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:19:58 +0200 From: "Panos Laganakos" To: "Andreas Nilsson" In-Reply-To: <45475F91.7060700@home.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1c3fe48e0610310056t52e4fecj32c7dbdfee689a7e@mail.gmail.com> <45475F91.7060700@home.se> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.358 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.042, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.358 X-Spam-Level: Cc: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org, jono@jonobacon.org Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Art for 0.2 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:20:05 -0000 Updated the extension-manager icon, should look much better on smaller sizes now. http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher/ On 10/31/06, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > Jono Bacon wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Right, we are heading towards 0.2, and there are a number of bits of > > art that we really need sorting out. The sooner these are done, the > > sooner the screenshots can be done for the website, docs and suchlike. > > > > Could the art team take a look at > > http://jokosher.python-hosting.com/wiki/ArtTeam and work on the items > > in the Essential list. I would like to get all of that art in J if > > possible. Otherwise, I will need to make the icons, and that will suck > > like you have not experienced. > > > > Jono > > > > > Ok, started working on the metronome, will be finished in a hour or so. > I'll try to nail down as many as possible on the list, but I can't do it > alone! > I totally need help from the artist dudes. Lurking no more! > Oscar? > - Andreas > _______________________________________________ > jokosher-devel-list mailing list > jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list > -- Panos Laganakos From nisses.mail@home.se Tue Oct 31 10:33:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA1E3B007B for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:33:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28966-10 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:33:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.183]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057293B00AB for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:33:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id E5AA638026; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:33:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.102]) by av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4ED537F38; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:33:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.130] (h151n2fls33o839.telia.com [217.211.214.151]) by smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB2037E43; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:33:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45476CB5.2010908@home.se> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:33:09 +0100 From: Andreas Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060918) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org References: <1c3fe48e0610310056t52e4fecj32c7dbdfee689a7e@mail.gmail.com> <45475F91.7060700@home.se> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.384 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.215, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.384 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Panos Laganakos Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Art for 0.2 X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:33:17 -0000 Panos Laganakos wrote: > Updated the extension-manager icon, should look much better on smaller > sizes now. > > http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/jokosher/ > Looks great! Let's use this! - Andreas > > On 10/31/06, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > >> Jono Bacon wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Right, we are heading towards 0.2, and there are a number of bits of >>> art that we really need sorting out. The sooner these are done, the >>> sooner the screenshots can be done for the website, docs and suchlike. >>> >>> Could the art team take a look at >>> http://jokosher.python-hosting.com/wiki/ArtTeam and work on the items >>> in the Essential list. I would like to get all of that art in J if >>> possible. Otherwise, I will need to make the icons, and that will suck >>> like you have not experienced. >>> >>> Jono >>> >>> >>> >> Ok, started working on the metronome, will be finished in a hour or so. >> I'll try to nail down as many as possible on the list, but I can't do it >> alone! >> I totally need help from the artist dudes. Lurking no more! >> Oscar? >> - Andreas >> >> > > From atomic0x@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 13:22:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C74B93B03F2 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:22:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12757-06 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:22:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.199]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FEA63B008E for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:22:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so1477628nzf for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:22:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.41.14 with SMTP id t14mr1145606pyj; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:22:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.134.18 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:22:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:22:36 -0500 From: "Adam Reid" To: "Jokosher development list" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_13001_7891149.1162318956965" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] More tooltips X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 18:22:43 -0000 ------=_Part_13001_7891149.1162318956965 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Here's some more tooltips for panning and zoom sliders, context sensitive workspace buttons. 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from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1203B0190 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:14:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22777-09 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:14:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.142]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 950903B0004 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:14:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28297 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2006 20:14:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thegreens.co.uk) (traceygreen210@btinternet.com@81.129.253.67 with login) by smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Oct 2006 20:14:17 -0000 Received: by thegreens.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 361FA79018; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:14:17 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:14:12 +0000 From: John Green To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20061031201411.GA31208@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.149 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.921, BAYES_50=0.001, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Spam-Score: 0.149 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [jokosher-devel] Bug ticket spam X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:14:25 -0000 Anonymous posting of tickets was re-enabled last night and already there's been spam appearing. Are there any filters available for TRAC at all? It strikes me that there's probably no case for a link in a bug report. Is it possible to filter out posts that contain links? That's the only point of wiki spam after all; to post links. -- John Green From atomic0x@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 15:44:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097A43B0278 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:44:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24382-08 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:44:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.203]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3E93B0170 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:44:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so1511026nzf for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 12:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.109.2 with SMTP id l2mr7348528pym; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 12:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.134.18 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 12:44:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:44:03 -0500 From: "Adam Reid" To: "Jokosher development list" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] More tooltips X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:44:06 -0000 Forgot to mention. Patched against rev 865 On 10/31/06, Adam Reid wrote: > Here's some more tooltips for panning and zoom sliders, context > sensitive workspace buttons. I also fixed the context sensitivity for > the click track button > > > From stuart.langridge@gmail.com Tue Oct 31 17:01:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4FBC3B0092 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:01:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30357-02 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:01:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A70A3B0004 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:01:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so429825nfa for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:01:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.107.15 with SMTP id f15mr1292797buc; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:01:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.115.13 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:01:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4c91566f0610311401m70ea0102x78969782dbd7317a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 22:01:36 +0000 From: "Stuart Langridge" Sender: stuart.langridge@gmail.com To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20061031201411.GA31208@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061031201411.GA31208@localhost.localdomain> X-Google-Sender-Auth: d7c652922362b2b1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.315 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.085, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.315 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] Bug ticket spam X-BeenThere: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Jokosher Developer List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 22:01:41 -0000 On 10/31/06, John Green wrote: > Anonymous posting of tickets was re-enabled last night and already there's > been spam appearing. Are there any filters available for TRAC at all? It > strikes me that there's probably no case for a link in a bug report. Is it > possible to filter out posts that contain links? That's the only point of > wiki spam after all; to post links. Already? God almighty. There are trac plugins, but we can't install any on python-hosting.com. sil -- "Out of the frying pan and into the very same, identical frying-pan. Smegging great." -- Lister, "Last Human"