Hi,

As some of you may have no= ticed we have recently deprecated Stock Items in master.

Some = details on this change may be found here:
https://d= ocs.google.com/document/d/1KCVPoYQBqMbDP11tHPpjW6uaEHrvLUmcDPqKAppCY8o/pub<= /a>

Please let us know what you think.

Thanks,
Jon
--089e01536dc4fc735a04e0877ed4-- From hadess@hadess.net Tue Jul 2 13:54:25 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F9976B52 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 13:54:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e0d_T03xHXFS for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 13:54:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (relay3-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.195]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495F876AF0 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 13:54:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mfilter13-d.gandi.net (mfilter13-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.141]) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF9AA80E6; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 15:54:08 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter13-d.gandi.net Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]) by mfilter13-d.gandi.net (mfilter13-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id REQ25ws9YG9Z; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 15:53:37 +0200 (CEST) X-Originating-IP: 83.155.44.161 Received: from [192.168.0.28] (mon69-7-83-155-44-161.fbx.proxad.net [83.155.44.161]) (Authenticated sender: hadess@hadess.net) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1D4D5A8119; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 15:53:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <1372773215.1801.1.camel@novo> Subject: Re: Stock Items Deprecation From: Bastien Nocera To: William Jon McCann Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 15:53:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.3 (3.8.3-2.fc19) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 13:54:25 -0000 On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 09:41 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: > Hi, > > > As some of you may have noticed we have recently deprecated Stock > Items in master. > > > Some details on this change may be found here: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KCVPoYQBqMbDP11tHPpjW6uaEHrvLUmcDPqKAppCY8o/pub > > > Please let us know what you think. The biggest loss is the need to re-translate, usually with consistency about the mnemonic used, things such as "_About", "_Save", etc. Cheers From tristan.van.berkom@gmail.com Tue Jul 2 14:30:10 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8C876AF0 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 14:30:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EtZN9AnTvNdQ for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 14:30:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-f173.google.com (mail-ie0-f173.google.com [209.85.223.173]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 227B6769D2 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 14:29:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id k13so12641440iea.32 for ; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 07:29:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=SVrboCl78njJyyeAUe9zAD0cUEsA/P+zo4jBXig2AnU=; b=aubu9+nFp5XrTu070IFyXii7mrKtAsvU4GJzsz8S0QiCYhL+wuPlZgeqXLAF33Lc7X saqFeIRdMnybBT7odjaBecl851j+4RKZdOnkRgVHYVni3SU9B6CP/oZ9CE1RV4s1c1pS Bklc5sWIiw3fe9oVyt62I3JL8TI2CzFDyocg1Lbfl/SQkW9SZlGC7H9jl29U+RYlj5Ug +tb0Dnh2ngF/hn9hjtLeGaq4t8rjZyJXxJnJg1eaU4B9Y59X2Wa1hg+hhBiwfZeUW1up 67S6QV1En4ihfEtdr18sdsRNiNK+kTVnMzl3FD0o5aJaI9OeCN/ra94JAGoGaZibm6PU I/5g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.79.169 with SMTP id k9mr21229943igx.20.1372775397128; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 07:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tristan.van.berkom@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.136.167 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 07:29:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 23:29:57 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0_p2GiqBRCgT4B-INn5_oAOp57g Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stock Items Deprecation From: Tristan Van Berkom To: William Jon McCann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 14:30:11 -0000 On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 10:41 PM, William Jon McCann wrote: > Hi, > > As some of you may have noticed we have recently deprecated Stock Items in > master. > > Some details on this change may be found here: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KCVPoYQBqMbDP11tHPpjW6uaEHrvLUmcDPqKAppCY8o/pub > > Please let us know what you think. Besides what Bastian already points out, I have another concern if we are to consider moving away from stock items completely. The document above points to this list of icon names: http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec-latest.html#names What guarantees do we have that referring to an icon name in the "icon naming spec" will actually produce an icon ? Will GTK+ have a dependency on an installed icon theme which conforms to the basic spec ? (can GTK+'s configure script verify that there is a *complete* set of icons installed and bail out if it's not the case ?). When you refer to a stock icon, you know that if you installed GTK+ on a given system, the icon will be there, period, if it's not overridden by an icon theme, there is always a default icon. Having constant definitions of available stock items is also a nice thing to have i.e. referring to GTK_STOCK_BUMBLEBEE produces a compiler error, refering to "gtk-stock-bumblebee" will happily compile and leave you wondering if: a.) Did I misspell "bumblebee" ? b.) Is "bumblebee" really an icon name ? c.) Did I use the wrong Icon Theme, which failed to install a "bumblebee" icon ? d.) Was I so ignorant to use an icon name which was only supported by the Icon Theme that existed in my GNOME desktop environment ? Should I have known better that "bumblebee" would not exist in other environments, like the embedded device I just setup ? I'm not really against moving away from the stock items, but I think that it's important to be able to guarantee which icon names will be provided for *any* installation of GTK+, even if this is a small list of guaranteed icons. Cheers, -Tristan > > Thanks, > Jon > > _______________________________________________ > gtk-devel-list mailing list > gtk-devel-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list > From matthias.clasen@gmail.com Tue Jul 2 14:44:36 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6967976B52; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 14:44:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R6SkD77SWFT9; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 14:44:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-f49.google.com (mail-pa0-f49.google.com [209.85.220.49]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4578769D2; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 14:44:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id ld11so6383337pab.22 for ; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 07:44:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Ge1XOUtJJX7LtSXFZenEZXhYDjCwwvfubF+l0zxNH2A=; b=Mq+1F6eJ/O1db9HtBN0LaEbaB+xmU7QJ2Nw2967q3jKA6s8YjHfxGGmwGNTfk9iuFI jIybay/a2h05Uaok8HR7GLvb9fC/AGS/3Hxm7GjCNmcZffVch20e4mBiQzoSk5Vo9RUO PylNTVYzK9i+TK6fkdhmDQjC0N5nuFeVa0sGh1GSRz4RRDxQ45iabMScZNjHE0JHAz7P CeYM97EtYgawaDA7GQHz8nRjRB18BgBm1iOQxUSaNcHBmYwMg/eZaxRP2To17lGDJ145 ZSB7mE9NmD/pB3GjywXeRHLk05m+0qiy3X8hfGBP/yPaxZh3dIF/Gzg0KoVawLMbMZgq RjKQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.159.105 with SMTP id xb9mr11811648pab.146.1372776253225; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 07:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.124.231 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 07:44:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 10:44:13 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stock Items Deprecation From: Matthias Clasen To: Tristan Van Berkom Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: gtk-devel-list X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 14:44:36 -0000 On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Tristan Van Berkom wrote: > > Besides what Bastian already points out, I have another concern if we > are to consider moving > away from stock items completely. > > The document above points to this list of icon names: > http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec-latest.html#names > > What guarantees do we have that referring to an icon name in the "icon > naming spec" will > actually produce an icon ? GTK+ ships with a built-in icon theme that covers the named icons used by the stock system (not all listed in the naming spec). From hadess@hadess.net Tue Jul 2 14:53:53 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E97976AF0; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 14:53:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id utIiuWc4p1qH; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 14:53:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (relay4-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.196]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51AD4769D2; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 14:53:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mfilter9-d.gandi.net (mfilter9-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.138]) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A57172090; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 16:53:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter9-d.gandi.net Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.196]) by mfilter9-d.gandi.net (mfilter9-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jKAEG0LfPIsO; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 16:53:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Originating-IP: 83.155.44.161 Received: from [192.168.0.28] (mon69-7-83-155-44-161.fbx.proxad.net [83.155.44.161]) (Authenticated sender: hadess@hadess.net) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EA41F1720DB; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 16:53:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <1372776815.1801.6.camel@novo> Subject: Re: Stock Items Deprecation From: Bastien Nocera To: Matthias Clasen Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 16:53:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: References:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.3 (3.8.3-2.fc19) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gtk-devel-list X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 14:53:53 -0000 On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 10:44 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Tristan Van Berkom wrote: > > > > > Besides what Bastian already points out, I have another concern if we > > are to consider moving > > away from stock items completely. > > > > The document above points to this list of icon names: > > http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec-latest.html#names > > > > What guarantees do we have that referring to an icon name in the "icon > > naming spec" will > > actually produce an icon ? > > GTK+ ships with a built-in icon theme that covers the named icons used > by the stock system (not all listed in the naming spec). Will we keep those: https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/3.4/gtk3-Stock-Items.html somehow listed in the documentation (even if the declarations are deprecated)? From william.jon.mccann@gmail.com Tue Jul 2 14:56:19 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C41876B52 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 14:56:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jJxbWSeVcj5t for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 14:56:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vb0-f48.google.com (mail-vb0-f48.google.com [209.85.212.48]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB9676AF0 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 14:56:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f48.google.com with SMTP id w15so4732032vbf.35 for ; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 07:56:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=vD+TMDJQyxwxkOxWwG4s8eiN1wRNrpxtIWePaYRmvS8=; b=Ftwpmedhd4IUXCs/aO90JKQ/GBcE8KJKjaZmyqxMi5rNw2oj0vj+vIAfsu8rYuIMPo vWjoHq7n/NhaN27M8HwWZ3lbsSzUPBWcOVadDej5Sa9CM37yCJ5e9ye5HdacnM61JI7Q WxeWzhf4u+e54FLaVVmudiFrWofa+RQY3m3PmvXsXKYvUb3/bpSjaT20o2BxfXiCdJSW oW0XSnvzSkMaKN80GpFBH1B7iKnzIJ6qYD8kH6hCj2vonRlcSBeE4O0r8sperBt3C7z2 F+Q35Hn5UWz0AqeJJZuInMQvLCZBDQEJ4BR+SsceKOZu/TSIqj8hfjoOPlQ9Ka40G2l8 Cung== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.182.193 with SMTP id cd1mr11485915vcb.32.1372776965364; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 07:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.12.130 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 07:56:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1372773215.1801.1.camel@novo> References: <1372773215.1801.1.camel@novo> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 10:56:05 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stock Items Deprecation From: William Jon McCann To: Bastien Nocera Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0115f03860635b04e0888b73 Cc: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 14:56:19 -0000 --089e0115f03860635b04e0888b73 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Bastien, Thanks for the feedback. I've added the following section about this to the document. One objection that has been raised is that now application authors will need to include and translate label strings (such as =93_Save=94) application-side. This means application authors will need to decide which characters to use for mnemonics. This is actually a good thing. A problem we=92ve always had with standardized label strings hardcoded in the toolkit is that inevitably the mnemonics clash. We=92ve never had a solution for th= is and there is even a FIXME in the codefor it. To do it correctly you really need to know what ones you've already used and what items are important enough to have them. While it may be possible to invent some kind of mechanism to pick mnemonics automatically, we don=92t currently have one. And it will likely be complicated to do reliably considering translations. Instead of relying on internal magic it is better to trust the application author to get it right. The problems of consistency between applications is a valid one and may be addressed the way we address other consistency issues, with documentation and clear guidelines . We already have the Stock Items Migration Guideand I expect some of this will migrate into the GTK+ documentation and platform HIG soon. On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 09:41 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > > As some of you may have noticed we have recently deprecated Stock > > Items in master. > > > > > > Some details on this change may be found here: > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KCVPoYQBqMbDP11tHPpjW6uaEHrvLUmcDPqKA= ppCY8o/pub > > > > > > Please let us know what you think. > > The biggest loss is the need to re-translate, usually with consistency > about the mnemonic used, things such as "_About", "_Save", etc. > > Cheers > > > --089e0115f03860635b04e0888b73 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Bastien,

Thanks for the feedback. I&#= 39;ve added the following section about this to the document.

One objection that has been raised is that now application authors will=20 need to include and translate label strings (such as =93_Save=94)=20 application-side. This means application authors will need to decide=20 which characters to use for mnemonics. This is actually a good thing. A=20 problem we=92ve always had with standardized label strings hardcoded in=20 the toolkit is that inevitably the mnemonics clash. We=92ve never had a=20 solution for this and there is even a FIXME in the code for it. To do it correctly you really need to know what ones you've=20 already used and what items are important enough to have them. While it=20 may be possible to invent some kind of mechanism to pick mnemonics=20 automatically, we don=92t currently have one. And it will likely be=20 complicated to do reliably considering translations. Instead of relying=20 on internal magic it is better to trust the application author to get it right.

The problems of consistency between applications is a valid one and may be=20 addressed the way we address other consistency issues, with=20 documentation and clear guidelines . We already have the Stock Items Migration Guide<= /span> and I expect some= of this will migrate into the GTK+ documentation and platform HIG soon.

On = Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Bastien Nocera <hadess@hadess.net> wrote:

On T= ue, 2013-07-02 at 09:41 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> As some of you may have noticed we have recently deprecated Stock
> Items in master.
>
>
> Some details on this change may be found here:
> https://docs.google.com/documen= t/d/1KCVPoYQBqMbDP11tHPpjW6uaEHrvLUmcDPqKAppCY8o/pub
>
>
> Please let us know what you think.

The biggest loss is the need to re-translate, usually with cons= istency
about the mnemonic used, things such as "_About", "_Save&quo= t;, etc.

Cheers

--089e0115f03860635b04e0888b73-- From william.jon.mccann@gmail.com Tue Jul 2 15:02:50 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFD876B52; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 15:02:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7DwYxWe6DSo8; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 15:02:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vc0-f181.google.com (mail-vc0-f181.google.com [209.85.220.181]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C97E76AF0; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 15:02:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id lf11so2794677vcb.40 for ; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 08:02:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=qwmBJq9TpZuYivgCrc+ZSRlkwvxg5raUJHGwunPsK/Q=; b=AJ2h61t+JQ2o3Jug3i3c0Yc/GcnOseLHF0eoUkS2ndQ0hrIg/jBOMPKI90eM6Iblra gkqVeJ9bXLeQw1RPVLoHZyK4dvvRKDEPoUluAPhxRhG0D2vaCZ0LoT0L6/YBZKJ2a+LS NPvenXbD+HZgV7hefJ1ASSiwLGqXp5apqiRd3PhWU308ZFF0nzsRBA/1y0DX1MpOAWpe 8whQJWsWe2bujX40IrOSCdboM4Fgw/mfkfA7LWbT3dCRIUfNd+MVnoqf/SFtGXEPsJHC fpkWll0Ot+PFMU2j3ZRIZFEGcGJxk5Mwyo1NrZPUe1MXiuIG5YRBBbKR45Qw2QIRQifq k63Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.201.138 with SMTP id fa10mr11602068vcb.18.1372777356670; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 08:02:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.12.130 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 08:02:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 11:02:36 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stock Items Deprecation From: William Jon McCann To: Tristan Van Berkom Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1c008b33f4b04e088a28a Cc: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 15:02:50 -0000 --001a11c1c008b33f4b04e088a28a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Tristan, On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Tristan Van Berkom wrote: > The document above points to this list of icon names: > > http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec-latest.html#names > > What guarantees do we have that referring to an icon name in the "icon > naming spec" will > actually produce an icon ? > > Will GTK+ have a dependency on an installed icon theme which conforms > to the basic spec ? > (can GTK+'s configure script verify that there is a *complete* set of > icons installed and bail > out if it's not the case ?). > Yeah that was advantage "1. A guaranteed, consistent, and high quality set of icons" I listed. Essentially GTK+ 3 has implicitly had a runtime dependency on an implementation of the icon naming spec for some time. This isn't a new change. In fact we optionally also depend on an implementation of symbolic icons too. Even though I think not having one should fallback in some fashion. As for the best way to express this? I don't know offhand. Suggestions welcome. Jon --001a11c1c008b33f4b04e088a28a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Tristan,

On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Tristan Van Berkom <tvb@gn= ome.org> wrote:

The document above points to this list of icon names:
=A0 =A0http://standards.freedesktop= .org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec-latest.html#names

What guarantees do we have that referring to an icon name in the "icon=
naming spec" will
actually produce an icon ?

Will GTK+ have a dependency on an installed icon theme which conforms
to the basic spec ?
(can GTK+'s configure script verify that there is a *complete* set of icons installed and bail
out if it's not the case ?).

Yeah t= hat was advantage "1. A=A0 guaranteed, consistent, and high quality se= t of icons" I listed. Essentially GTK+ 3 has implicitly had a runtime = dependency on an implementation of the icon naming spec for some time. This= isn't a new change. In fact we optionally also depend on an implementa= tion of symbolic icons too. Even though I think not having one should fallb= ack in some fashion.

As for the best way to express this? I don't know offhan= d. Suggestions welcome.

Jon

--001a11c1c008b33f4b04e088a28a-- From alexl@redhat.com Wed Jul 3 13:41:11 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7A5763E3 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 13:41:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.458 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.556, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RTckY8HvKCiq for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 13:41:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFE6768D6 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 13:40:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from int-mx12.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx12.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.25]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r63Dev9f024452 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 09:40:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ovpn01.gateway.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.9.1]) by int-mx12.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r63DevaX025108 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 09:40:57 -0400 Message-ID: <1372858856.4015.54.camel@localhost> Subject: HiDPI stuff partially merged From: Alexander Larsson To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 15:40:56 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.25 X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 13:41:11 -0000 I just merged the wip/window-scales2 branch. This means that gtk+ master has some level of support for window scaling. If you want to test this, you will still need the cairo branch at: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~ickle/cairo/log/?h=device-scale (It still builds without it, but doesn't support scaling) Chris will merge this into cairo master and start a 1.13 version as soon as he manages to release the latest 1.12.x version, then this will not be needed. (Also, Chris talked about making cairo automatically inherit device-scale in cairo_surface_create_similar, if that happens we need to modify gdk_window_create_similar_surface to not do this.) I also have some patches to add automatic detection of hidpi screens and enable the scale at: https://git.gnome.org/browse/gsettings-desktop-schemas/log/?h=wip/window-scales https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-settings-daemon/log/?h=wip/window-scales Also, gnome-shell is pretty broken when Gtk+ is running in scaled mode, so there is this badhack I use to make gnome-shell work with the above: https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/log/?h=wip/window-scales Highres css assets require a branch atm: https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-themes-standard/log/?h=wip/hidpi Running with all the above on my Chromebook pixel things seems to mostly work. There are some open issues: * clutter doesn't respect the window scaling, so the gl rendering is too small. * No support at all for using larger cursors or DnD icons * As I said above, gnome-shell doesn't handle scaling at all I'm leaving for vacation after friday and will be back for Guadec... I might be around now and then, but not much. From yoseforb@gmail.com Fri Jul 5 13:56:10 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094F3765B0; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 13:56:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, MIME error: error: part did not end with expected boundary; ; error: unexpected end of parts before epilogue; ; error: unexpected end of parts before epilogue X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.443 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.443 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, BUG6152_INVALID_DATE_TZ_ABSURD=0.766, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, INVALID_DATE_TZ_ABSURD=0.491, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xA8IEeKjaDcz; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 13:55:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ee0-f43.google.com (mail-ee0-f43.google.com [74.125.83.43]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B817768D6; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 13:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f43.google.com with SMTP id l10so1411801eei.30 for ; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 06:55:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:subject:to:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type; bh=7J0NxjVVuVuVmT4xfQ12IsobjfyZz3pPh585o3k+sYw=; b=W+4uACnhpZcKRrvbeBtzFvcdWO45XxEOMaptv+cOyKwN96zg66zBOBfqHQLncblLoI Da7kn4lQ0V3h50gQFnfRRm7ueNl+xl74OQjOTbed4EEZvkxz/+V0YWmzbXIS12gqNsp0 ws3oYKqrknFpO2n1eIeUH9EstoQz9UXn0tPI+GdBHuBrETDkRTiyze5JDRdOacw3HWss QKbNTMEk46xIQnCwuKbhqQvm7MP5iraq1dULgRxtd19tB13Ogcxu3C7Gm5dgPIH6kHJ7 y9MFRajAyYYc4S326BxwFf7eSIXeiKiOsASdJM9MJJZU1o9O7QarnNW7PolW2uTbBgc5 acIQ== X-Received: by 10.14.47.196 with SMTP id t44mr1281221eeb.18.1373032544595; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 06:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([95.86.71.16]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c44sm14149537eeb.8.2013.07.05.06.55.42 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 05 Jul 2013 06:55:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51d6d05f.44270e0a.2238.1eee@mx.google.com> Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 13:58:05 +0003 From: Yosef Or Boczko Subject: Expand the child in the GtkHeaderBar To: gtk-devel-list , nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailer: geary/0.3.1+trunk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-iPLNL3z8gHhhNQMWOGKl" X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 13:56:10 -0000 --=-iPLNL3z8gHhhNQMWOGKl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good afternoon! I wrote a program that uses in GtkHeaderBar [1]. In the GtkHeaderBar I put a buttons (GtkButton) and also entry=20 (GtkEntry): entry-without-expand.png [2]: |<>| |--- entry ---| | X I tried to expand the entry which is in haderbar, see something like=20 this: entry-with-expand-gimp-editor.png [3]: |<>| |--------------------- entry ---------------------| | X To expand, I tired use the following functions: gtk_widget_set_vexpand (entry, TRUE); /* It does nothing, not expand! */ g_object_set (entry, "expand", TRUE, NULL); /* It also does nothing,=20 not expand */ It does not work! There is a way to expand the entry in headerbar? I do it so that to port the toolbar in nautilus (NautilusToolbar) to=20 headerbar. 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<51d6d05f.44270e0a.2238.1eee@mx.google.com> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 08:56:27 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Expand the child in the GtkHeaderBar From: Matthias Clasen To: Tristan Van Berkom Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: gtk-devel-list , nautilus-list X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 12:56:50 -0000 On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 1:28 AM, Tristan Van Berkom wrote: > > > Why are you using GtkHeaderBar ? > > From what I understand, the main feature of GtkHeaderBar is to center > the title text in the allocation regardless of the size of any sibling > widgets which are to the left or right. > > But you are not displaying a title anyway... so why not just use a > horizontal GtkBox ? Alternatively, try putting the entry in the centered position, using gtk_header_bar_set_custom_title. Looks to me like the entry should be centered, anyway ? From yoseforb@gmail.com Mon Jul 8 13:50:24 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B18E76A41; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 13:50:24 +0000 (UTC) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, MIME error: error: part did not end with expected boundary; ; error: unexpected end of parts before epilogue; ; error: unexpected end of parts before epilogue X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.443 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.443 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, BUG6152_INVALID_DATE_TZ_ABSURD=0.766, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, INVALID_DATE_TZ_ABSURD=0.491, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VBYPfZ0nNMdu; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 13:50:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ea0-f179.google.com (mail-ea0-f179.google.com [209.85.215.179]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B0857657B; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 13:50:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ea0-f179.google.com with SMTP id b15so2950153eae.24 for ; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 06:49:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:subject:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; bh=gukYSbMaeIkswisC8S1yHXdPbMLTWG9o9ExTY6tXA/Q=; b=JeWw0VH/uYEurTjOkZJADJXOF9bL3XeEEvkCS3u4VOuPuYcO1rIpL8SXQeDop9GN1E oFmuRqMak4yTsIH2MdZKRStyQ9HNGAxPDMN1MpOTyc2AZVXCzaRPHlFazbZZ4MR5q3Oz 2J/V+KyaksZw5nFnuQYY0vO1V2sjgiCaq0x8vZzAL1AwOSkIf4Q5i3R6apz6ENa0QPqp SCbhtGw4ywkxJSzjFhM+U7zFrXfN8kKnxQlYeWgE0x3zWdVf2cb81pDCenIXc0Wkf7yn 9T7qjxRg7IQ5RnzaerLYwSkVaGEOA3Qm87X3+IiFVQffF+PdDDgsJ7bYLh8EiyLxLEiI c/HA== X-Received: by 10.14.177.8 with SMTP id c8mr24596453eem.93.1373291399698; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 06:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([213.151.63.190]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e44sm42288052eeh.11.2013.07.08.06.49.57 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 08 Jul 2013 06:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51dac386.c4730e0a.1f1b.ffff95a8@mx.google.com> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 13:52:18 +0003 From: Yosef Or Boczko Subject: Re: Expand the child in the GtkHeaderBar To: Matthias Clasen In-Reply-To: References: <51d6d05f.44270e0a.2238.1eee@mx.google.com> X-Mailer: geary/0.3.1+trunk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-Yykf86sFj7NQJ9rT2kIe" Cc: gtk-devel-list , nautilus-list X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 13:50:24 -0000 --=-Yykf86sFj7NQJ9rT2kIe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I tries this a few days ago. The problem still exits[1][2]. It intended to nautilus, to add a close button, and to port from GtkToolbar to GtkHeaderBar[3][4][5]. [1] attached: main.c or: https://bitbucket.org/yoseforb/expand-header-bar/src/ebd9bda7714c0c8ef151a9= 1a913a01ae1b03a17c/main.c?at=3Dmaster [2] attached: entry-as-custom-title.png or: https://bitbucket.org/yoseforb/expand-header-bar/src/ebd9bda7714c0c8ef151a9= 1a913a01ae1b03a17c/entry-as-custom-title.png?at=3Dmaster [3] 0002-Port-GtkToolbar-to-GtkHeaderBar.patch:=20 https://bitbucket.org/yoseforb/expand-header-bar/src/ebd9bda7714c0c8ef151a9= 1a913a01ae1b03a17c/0002-Port-GtkToolbar-to-GtkHeaderBar.patch?at=3Dmaster [4] location-bar.png: https://bitbucket.org/yoseforb/expand-header-bar/src/ebd9bda7714c0c8ef151a9= 1a913a01ae1b03a17c/location-bar.png?at=3Dmaster [5] patch-bar.png: https://bitbucket.org/yoseforb/expand-header-bar/src/ebd9bda7714c0c8ef151a9= 1a913a01ae1b03a17c/patch-bar.png?at=3Dmaster Regards, =E2=80=8FYosef Or Boczko On =D7=91', =D7=99=D7=95=D7=9C 8, 2013 =D7=91=D7=A9=D7=A2=D7=94 3:56 PM, Ma= tthias Clasen=20 wrote: > On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 1:28 AM, Tristan Van Berkom =20 > wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> Why are you using GtkHeaderBar ? >>=20 >> From what I understand, the main feature of GtkHeaderBar is to=20 >> center >> the title text in the allocation regardless of the size of any=20 >> sibling >> widgets which are to the left or right. >>=20 >> But you are not displaying a title anyway... so why not just use a >> horizontal GtkBox ? >>=20 > Alternatively, try putting the entry in the centered position, using > gtk_header_bar_set_custom_title. 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(Postfix) with ESMTP id 0165776941 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:16:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B-xja931ltLD for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:16:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 384 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at restaurant.gnome.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:16:00 UTC Received: from kontorsmtp2.one.com (kontorsmtp2.one.com [195.47.247.17]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE286765C2 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:15:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hpPC (unknown [80.227.44.122]) by kontorsmtp2.one.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0CE728A42 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:09:26 +0200 (CEST) From: "Sandeep" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: API or command to know the bookmark file name and location Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:09:26 +0400 Message-ID: <032c01ce816d$4cf6e3b0$e6e4ab10$@b-one.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_032D_01CE818E.D408F8E0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQImBAoCk9gNa8yq9UPHos4MJo0ZkJi20nPA Content-Language: en-us X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:16:07 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_032D_01CE818E.D408F8E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I would like to know if there exists an API and also a command to find the bookmarks file name and path in ubuntu. My application writes to the bookmarks file to add some short cuts. Before ubuntu 11.X the bookmarks file used to be in "/home/myname/.gtk-bookmarks", but post ubuntu 13.0X it is inside "/home/myname/.config/gtk-3.0/bookmarks". If I have to support my application for all versions of ubuntu, then I must not rely on hard coding the path of bookmarks file name/path. Is there an, API and command to find out the path and name of a bookmarks file? (I want a command also because I want to invoke it from a script as well). Thanks in advance. -Sandeep ------=_NextPart_000_032D_01CE818E.D408F8E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello,

I would like = to know if there exists an API and also a command to find the bookmarks = file name and path in ubuntu.

My = application writes to the bookmarks file to add some short cuts. Before = ubuntu 11.X the bookmarks file used to be in = "/home/myname/.gtk-bookmarks", but post ubuntu 13.0X it is = inside = "/home/myname/.config/gtk-3.0/bookmarks".

If I have to support my application for all versions = of ubuntu, then I must not rely on hard coding the path of bookmarks = file name/path. Is there an, API and command to find out the path and = name of a bookmarks file? (I want a command also because I want to = invoke it from a script as well).

Thanks in advance. =

-Sandeep

------=_NextPart_000_032D_01CE818E.D408F8E0-- From matthias.clasen@gmail.com Mon Jul 15 19:12:54 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E3176E1D for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:12:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Thx-spOBYggu for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-f49.google.com (mail-pa0-f49.google.com [209.85.220.49]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 672E076E1B for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:12:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id ld11so11540450pab.22 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 12:12:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=PGpEh7rG23PifmJSslHMse+jPZ14dBCNl0lPlvaXU4Y=; b=lFzabfTYL6w+J+dEskJVLdE5IGyJzFuixpfPnqQKSO/UoUrrvThA1VQVyqDnnce1qM gPrNxrmi6r6HOS/ZziR6UyxDju53nmDet7ugH9jwnsGzy9HrVBTiQUvS2xz6IScPJYY+ D5qzfKzX074TUM2etsJsiivN6qad4za9Zv4pY/xSek22PEhgBKbUacl0YojRTMbSmnkC CQl6cDjnhbuWDGrgR4olCAxgu1a55UZ1Rl+p/dvwHRzcvOYfeRrho3/Z9eNxw8b0702/ W0Yal0cg5bKNfFF4RtWF/nrliDdc5cM7EiMN6ixg3HCIw8glbTilg9q51oIMIfDYwIO4 4a/Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.231.103 with SMTP id tf7mr57376477pac.154.1373915550774; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 12:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.124.231 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 12:12:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <032c01ce816d$4cf6e3b0$e6e4ab10$@b-one.net> References: <032c01ce816d$4cf6e3b0$e6e4ab10$@b-one.net> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:12:30 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: API or command to know the bookmark file name and location From: Matthias Clasen To: Sandeep Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: gtk-devel-list X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:12:54 -0000 On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Sandeep wrote > I would like to know if there exists an API and also a command to find the > bookmarks file name and path in ubuntu. > > My application writes to the bookmarks file to add some short cuts. Before > ubuntu 11.X the bookmarks file used to be in "/home/myname/.gtk-bookmarks", > but post ubuntu 13.0X it is inside "/home/myname/.config/gtk-3.0/bookmarks". There's no api or commandline tool to find the file. There _is_ of course an api to add an item to the recent files: gtk_recent_manager_add_item You could simply use that in your application. From sandeep@b-one.net Tue Jul 16 03:06:11 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1258A768DA for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 03:06:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RJj9WIf12nCf for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 03:06:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from csmtp8.one.com (csmtp8.one.com [195.47.247.108]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF2F762E9 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 03:05:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail02 (webmail02.local [10.246.6.2]) by csmtp8.one.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BB475BE; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 03:05:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail02 (webmail02.local [10.246.6.2]) by 0.0.0.0:2552 (trex/4.8.74); Tue, 16 Jul 2013 03:00:37 GMT X-Originating-IP: 91.72.70.14 User-Agent: One.com webmail 2.4.23 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <1373943954066.17185.13475@webmail02> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 03:05:54 GMT To: "Matthias Clasen" From: "Sandeep" Subject: Re: API or command to know the bookmark file name and location Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------13476-1373943954066" Cc: gtk-devel-list X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: sandeep@b-one.net List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 03:06:11 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------------13476-1373943954066 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > There's no api or commandline tool to find the file. > There _is_ of c= ourse an api to add an item to the recent files: > gtk_recent_manager_add_= item > You could simply use that in your application. >=20 Hi, = I am not able to understand how adding to recent files going to help = me. Do you mean calling gtk_recent_manager_add_item will add a bookmark ent= ry in the nautilus file manager? Could you please elaborate? My purpose is = specifically to add Folders to the nautilus bookmarks. How is the API gtk_r= ecent_manager_add_item helping me here. According to applications can se= t or get access to recent manager database/information. Even to add or dele= te an item to/from the bookmarks I need to know its location. Or is there a= way to simply add/delete bookmarks without even knowing where the bookmark= s file is located? Second question: The above question is to do it= pragmatically(API). Is there any command to add and/or remove bookmarks wi= thout even knowing where the bookmarks file is located. I need these to be = called in my pre-install and post-remove scripts of my debian package. = Third question: I have read that editing bookmarks file using normal ed= itors is not recommended as it might be being used by other GTK application= s, so editing must always be done as part of gtk_main. So if I have to add/= delete from my pre-install, post-remove scripts what is the recommended way= ? Thanks in advance. -Sandeep ------------13476-1373943954066 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8

There's no api or commandline tool to find th= e file.
There _is_ of course an api to add an item to the recent files:<= br>gtk_recent_manager_add_item
You could simply use that in your applica= tion.

Hi,

I am= not able to understand how adding to recent files going to help me. Do you= mean calling gtk_recent_manager_add_item will add a bookmark entry in the = nautilus file manager? Could you please elaborate? My purpose is specifical= ly to add Folders to the nautilus bookmarks. How is the API gtk_recen= t_manager_add_item helping me here. According to http://w= ww.gnu.org/software/guile-gnome/docs/gtk/html/GtkRecentManager.html&nbs= p;applications can set or get access to recent manager database/information= . Even to add or delete an item to/from the bookmarks I need to know its lo= cation. Or is there a way to simply add/delete bookmarks without even knowi= ng where the bookmarks file is located?

Second que= stion: The above question is to do it pragmatically(API). Is there any comm= and to add and/or remove bookmarks without even knowing where the bookmarks= file is located. I need these to be called in my pre-install and post-remo= ve scripts of my debian package.

Third question: I= have read that editing bookmarks file using normal editors is not recommen= ded as it might be being used by other GTK applications, so editing must al= ways be done as part of gtk_main. So if I have to add/delete from my pre-in= stall, post-remove scripts what is the recommended way?

Thanks in advance.

-Sandeep

------------13476-1373943954066-- From matthias.clasen@gmail.com Tue Jul 16 16:49:49 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92C076F2B for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:49:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aHw7ro6-m2z0 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:49:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-f47.google.com (mail-pa0-f47.google.com [209.85.220.47]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 788B176EC8 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:49:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id kl14so975541pab.34 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:49:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=72Kf3T04y+zW/IyPpVfRjhM97EG273ELhM+ZbTMq8Zc=; b=YJx7vBBu9CvsY2T3tgpvaFtssxe/R5riHAC3XOwtP6ellZgYI8EMNjp6a+A6O0HKwy 0JmHIubUYH+WpzFRr1fm8JZIaVGatGCW2HdKY/uQibBBrBZsyCgYLNNNgy+qXFZs8DxE MXA9D69bXaozD/tV4l5nNK9sVMzRBROFpMkXrhArHQgCBuxi6AHiZr3UQ9PU4WgfxCfF iJ+29EYGRkMgcEPM2nZdCEfuHhSqGrDmuzJoby25h00omlNo1TpA0upgMMLtcaG/2nsa lcPNZDRoGfCDOMwVZrbQvrYSQNNA3Z97O+kbDfDsPIOI7IicXK9aqzIWIDwnGIFAIHKz 9tMg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.36.132 with SMTP id q4mr2421668pbj.118.1373993365661; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:49:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.124.231 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:49:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1373943954066.17185.13475@webmail02> References: <1373943954066.17185.13475@webmail02> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:49:25 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: API or command to know the bookmark file name and location From: Matthias Clasen To: Sandeep Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: gtk-devel-list X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:49:49 -0000 Sorry, I was mixing up bookmarks and recent files in my response. From fanc999@yahoo.com.tw Wed Jul 17 08:25:34 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FE076A19 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:25:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.402 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.402 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.347, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=no Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zZkHDDeIimSc for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:25:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm34-vm6.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com (nm34-vm6.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com [106.10.151.245]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58CCB769F0 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:25:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [106.10.166.127] by nm34.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jul 2013 08:25:10 -0000 Received: from [106.10.167.128] by tm16.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jul 2013 08:25:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp101.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jul 2013 08:25:10 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com.tw; s=s1024; t=1374049510; bh=/y8IVOOCSteY5VPussH3e7scQ63VXvZdvRcMnXsf4N8=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=wL+9cUSs8/CRPmk2JjRHEXGpurX5tUkjG0lQlZNdu4XVpNjMX4bEChSBo0btYuRfNlAdYFXcr6+2VoSBvFbs5Ojwk02u//h7u7JKVB1GnbHHruGKl6P7vlgDovGv/hpuqgX2LLeKOmUnh9zmF3RQjV/2T3FAteND8zEFRftTQZE= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 30048.27053.bm@smtp101.mail.sg3.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: BZgzPXQVM1ko1bfp_AY_lifZ5vbeDFHfCNJX2JkjMkvqCHf 8PDLIPfLTFRv33cFTvlHW50oqoOOlaWDdJ4NgzWbyo7Sq4LOGf61WcsxFsEw SZYeL7wxroYQQzOAyZpp3CFM69Z61SOXH9oH_qT5r2KfbMqCjMbdvwwuFnoc Bvs_8Zia9Xw4zTO8Ny8M2.DxI2odlgvmrtg5ipJfoiGAzNaykkVBN4dUixPT 28gDdBYQl3RNdjrYgXBUBLlncdKB.NJvDsM_RDvMoUHbBlIYfdQm9yCDqvRm _DNYLRke.sxFiaBwLXpx8H79Hx376eFP1_U5mXaeI6AgjoQsq3bIY4SQAgXZ 8lB1i0k4oPoHKp8GU1ZI8HZqewz8xm5vqQLYR40WfGcEIHhYK3QANVaR3DIQ G1rD7AuasGuaMB8WMs6kzKkUYq2W0_2rXpEWZK25oJVHqsBUuluBLJj1SCvJ mYOfyS_CWGxfnEodH6gOGTfhVh5nBwRvQ48PvRmRlPRw_R6Je4472.W7Xsnb QHvAWn.ixymIRszVKVvDcYwd_GewoROOYoZMgamKIku.E6rnPlChiA1J_U3G nIbqrxaPYlbXkBmvU2hJ9H_Kh359WJGhwu6zuCnsk_AgshFO.BERQxVQaJm1 rKdkR1NZob_ohryfFTE3ZQUTzWw_Dum_PEKCQQEf.hFxTMt5anYDSj.fAxaN dh1W.L5GpqdsNXGkGngMl6xXKQiq.3HqSkLejtpKSUx06g4kZ8qSQAt.s3ru 4UEH6nu5xTdxKJeT.aOOaRwF8MzDIUCFLFAPVV.u_DmCzGOl.2rzwVIURTgt cNFBJhBwOYOvo_tTpooaGi.fMgzaMCuUmZf4C9p2b.0jM6DgZkOL8OXrTMVY D.WCjCryQ2UN1xzcC47ikBxYVMF6As1e63hV6B1.AlN6_ X-Yahoo-SMTP: 5ebm8KSswBAoOmSaF66eITQ8Wug- X-Rocket-Received: from [192.168.1.6] (fanc999@175.182.176.7 with ) by smtp101.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jul 2013 01:25:09 -0700 PDT Message-ID: <51E654E5.7030409@yahoo.com.tw> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:25:09 +0800 From: Fan Chun-wei User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; Win64; x64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120621 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Emmas Subject: Regarding gdbus-codegen (was: Re: glib-mkenums in glib 2) References: <416209.47825.bm@smtp115-mob.biz.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <92C1D2DB-B197-4456-ADA3-007EBE945C3B@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <92C1D2DB-B197-4456-ADA3-007EBE945C3B@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:25:34 -0000 Hi John, (list people: I understand this is a rather old topic that was brought up few months ago:) ). I was poking around with the Python scripts for gdbus-codegen lately, and I thought it might be good to let you know a few things about its use on Windows, especially under Visual Studio builds of GLib It appears that one wouldn't have to change anything in those Python scripts (at least from the release stable/unstable tarballs) so that they can be ran on Windows. What I found is that for it to work "installed" on Windows (suppose your GLib "installation" is in c:\foo): -From $(srcroot)\gio\gdbus-2.0\codegen, copy the gdbus-codegen.in file as-is to c:\foo\bin, and renaming it as gdbus-codegen. (This files has support for Windows regarding path issues without needing to process the file with autotools) -Copy all the .py files in $(srcroot)\gio\gdbus-2.0\codegen to c:\foo\lib\gdbus-2.0\codegen as is. So this will basically work when you have the following layout c:\ foo\ bin\ gdbus-codegen (renamed from gdbus-codegen.in) lib\ gdbus-2.0\ codegen\ codegen.py codegen_docbook.py codegen_main.py config.py dbustypes.py parser.py utils.py __init__.py Hope this may be of help. Unfortunately I can't run the gdbus-test-codegen test program as it uses items from GIO-UNIX, but it does seem to me that generating the test sources in-tree (with UNINSTALLED_GLIB_SRCDIR set) and using the script in the layout I just mentioned (without UNINSTALLED_GLIB_SRCDIR set, obviously) produce identical results. With blessings. From murrayc@murrayc.com Wed Jul 17 09:48:18 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9DCA76CC7 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:48:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id enHDMgTgurEU for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:48:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4795D769E7 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:47:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.45]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988E920C30; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 05:47:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 05:47:52 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:subject:from:to:cc:date :in-reply-to:references:content-type:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=CVKIKCu8o+y9X5zsLOhII8 kR5nw=; b=oiQc5JiqImFjBb4dgAud0g3UhM83viUISvDKBjQ8SQ5ZeaBt85bbNV stFGkTJKY6rY/vyIojdOgaFqWJMzG3Gbl4jpe8uD/nrXuUBEH+aeWBJbBlaY7bNg vSho3sMZecBPLBmOPxFRsQ+BGykiZVDPJweUb2dyQZI25UrNMIeVU= X-Sasl-enc: ZTHodsmiP21/6E+qtc6iIpxI21Xqa7ae9FZGgmoz4imf 1374054470 Received: from [192.168.0.20] (unknown [62.245.151.5]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9A3E56800B6; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 05:47:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1374054469.3367.20.camel@murrayc-desktop> Subject: Re: Stock Items Deprecation From: Murray Cumming To: William Jon McCann Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 11:47:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.4-0ubuntu1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:48:18 -0000 On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 09:41 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: > Hi, > > > As some of you may have noticed we have recently deprecated Stock > Items in master. > > > Some details on this change may be found here: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KCVPoYQBqMbDP11tHPpjW6uaEHrvLUmcDPqKAppCY8o/pub > > > Please let us know what you think. This deprecated several classes (GtkIconFactory, GtkIconSet, GtkIconSource, GtkImageMenuItem, GtkAction, GtkUIManager). But their overview documentation does not mention that the whole API is deprecated. And the deprecation comments for the individual methods just say that they are deprecated without any further advice. For instance: https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/unstable/GtkUIManager.html#gtk-ui-manager-new -- Murray Cumming murrayc@murrayc.com www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com From jean.brefort@normalesup.org Wed Jul 17 10:03:04 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD03769E7 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:03:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.121 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gvzlvLdLFcGm for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:02:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD3576A28 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:02:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2a01:e35:8ac4:1010:d550:3164:a2e2:85b2] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e35:8ac4:1010:d550:3164:a2e2:85b2]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D45094018D for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:02:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <1374055282.3748.3.camel@vaio.brefort.fr> Subject: Re: Stock Items Deprecation From: Jean Brefort To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:01:22 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1374054469.3367.20.camel@murrayc-desktop> References: <1374054469.3367.20.camel@murrayc-desktop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.4-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:03:04 -0000 Le mercredi 17 juillet 2013 à 11:47 +0200, Murray Cumming a écrit : > On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 09:41 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > > As some of you may have noticed we have recently deprecated Stock > > Items in master. > > > > > > Some details on this change may be found here: > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KCVPoYQBqMbDP11tHPpjW6uaEHrvLUmcDPqKAppCY8o/pub > > > > > > Please let us know what you think. > > This deprecated several classes (GtkIconFactory, GtkIconSet, > GtkIconSource, GtkImageMenuItem, GtkAction, GtkUIManager). All these? And what replace them? Should I just stop using gtk+ for development? I have not so much available time and rewriting code using deprecated classes should not use it all. I clearly prefer spend time on new code, or fixing bugs. Regards, Jean > But their overview documentation does not mention that the whole API is > deprecated. And the deprecation comments for the individual methods just > say that they are deprecated without any further advice. For instance: > https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/unstable/GtkUIManager.html#gtk-ui-manager-new > > From ebassi@gmail.com Wed Jul 17 10:21:48 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7BF076F15 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:21:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8kD8odG8hUCL for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:21:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vb0-f41.google.com (mail-vb0-f41.google.com [209.85.212.41]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A9AC76A28 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:21:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id p13so1225242vbe.14 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 03:21:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xx9DqM7SdLxS84/vSPRWAkAB9o3H3lbKmLh9RtbGzA0=; b=GzrsjkfgCvmDFdWlRC9Y3ud1bZ42x6T2KkSbMehvp9Bl2sbfHTJ++EamtwA6kBsCM8 ti9j57mJAFI6uDKa/dbyYd+wfdZlO8r2zn+TaKHyVBSh67u6yOKDQ+GpMnsR/CBYKps6 Fc6C4dTSRNzpv7yqLakUd/cfSpNoQMu/H1mzo3dNiyLBjbif51hM7IZGfk6ddy9+LKrb V/2SUwqVHRWnM+Gr2hjqZIBKys3hlGmPr+MUoQDuuIU7DZH7N+0jTjNYFHRn2jXiVUQ+ 8OCMDUNBiKjFTDlzLeJf4qHriLmFgj44H1GpiJFokacWMOnKxIjUUMjCH+WYY1n65MeH 5fig== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.100.166 with SMTP id ez6mr1572984vdb.19.1374056485373; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 03:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.224.198 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 03:21:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1374055282.3748.3.camel@vaio.brefort.fr> References: <1374054469.3367.20.camel@murrayc-desktop> <1374055282.3748.3.camel@vaio.brefort.fr> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 11:21:25 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stock Items Deprecation From: Emmanuele Bassi To: Jean Brefort Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: GTK Devel List X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:21:48 -0000 hi; On 17 July 2013 11:01, Jean Brefort wrote: > Le mercredi 17 juillet 2013 =C3=A0 11:47 +0200, Murray Cumming a =C3=A9cr= it : >> On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 09:41 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > >> > As some of you may have noticed we have recently deprecated Stock >> > Items in master. >> > >> > >> > Some details on this change may be found here: >> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KCVPoYQBqMbDP11tHPpjW6uaEHrvLUmcDP= qKAppCY8o/pub >> > >> > >> > Please let us know what you think. >> >> This deprecated several classes (GtkIconFactory, GtkIconSet, >> GtkIconSource, GtkImageMenuItem, GtkAction, GtkUIManager). for GtkUIManager we already have a replacement that covers about 95% of the use cases: GtkBuilder. GAction replaces GtkAction; images on menus have been discouraged for years, and the whole menu system has been replaced by GMenu XML descriptions that can be exported on the session bus. named icons have been replacing stock items for years; API is available both in GTK (GtkIconTheme) and in GIO (GIcon, GThemedIcon, etc.). > All these? And what replace them? you should have read the thread and the document linked at the start of it. > Should I just stop using gtk+ for > development? I have not so much available time and rewriting code using > deprecated classes should not use it all. I clearly prefer spend time on > new code, or fixing bugs. you can still use deprecated classes until we break GTK for 4.0. deprecation does not mean removal, it just means that the deprecated API should not ("should not", not "must not") be used in newly written code. ciao, Emmanuele. -- W: http://www.emmanuelebassi.name B: http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/ From ebassi@gmail.com Wed Jul 17 10:23:48 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6DA76F15 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:23:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1tbvWhCpAi1q for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ve0-f175.google.com (mail-ve0-f175.google.com [209.85.128.175]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4003E76A28 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:23:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f175.google.com with SMTP id da11so1339703veb.34 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 03:23:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=psp0p3JN5yBw1zrv9Ke6DvMAWTVVrcjjiD/8+F3ZYC4=; b=iY4F1v80zVCwspFIT4Lwu0jlpn7LZKDKRrQMa3UvS4g67ZgJxYPH1IeIJG6kthVYjA 8oMec6WRAYmyrT/g8SjtgN7mFgglPZD3MU6wHWTZryQivB087VmdFsVqtq6UhXBEj9FD QG524Qe7C40joNm+Tr3NUjTZsNGKcJoSWvOt4qfGGV22JYrhqvb12HPPmKoOMD7+ksc0 MNVgJHflhANbSL1hCedzwcMiKYwAkiebtPj9MASq2sEqSAMwcyYBd06V9g6fSvysMEx5 DceEPrGRi04o87tEU1z7IftHqlhWF4ym6Iwh4YM4s6BzM3Tm9vIH1xJRA9460wPw1VFC 9Lmw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.92.16 with SMTP id ci16mr1477887vdb.88.1374056614328; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 03:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.224.198 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 03:23:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1374054469.3367.20.camel@murrayc-desktop> References: <1374054469.3367.20.camel@murrayc-desktop> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 11:23:34 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stock Items Deprecation From: Emmanuele Bassi To: Murray Cumming Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: GTK Devel List X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:23:48 -0000 hi Murray; On 17 July 2013 10:47, Murray Cumming wrote: > On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 09:41 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: >> As some of you may have noticed we have recently deprecated Stock >> Items in master. >> >> >> Some details on this change may be found here: >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KCVPoYQBqMbDP11tHPpjW6uaEHrvLUmcDPqKAppCY8o/pub >> >> >> Please let us know what you think. > > This deprecated several classes (GtkIconFactory, GtkIconSet, > GtkIconSource, GtkImageMenuItem, GtkAction, GtkUIManager). > > But their overview documentation does not mention that the whole API is > deprecated. And the deprecation comments for the individual methods just > say that they are deprecated without any further advice. For instance: > https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/unstable/GtkUIManager.html#gtk-ui-manager-new I'm sure documentation patches are welcome; I'll gladly review them. in general, GtkUIManager should be replaced by GtkBuilder, so that could be added to the long description of the class instead of each public entry point in the API. for GtkIcon* API, the replacement has been named theme icons, and has been so for a while. ciao, Emmanuele. -- W: http://www.emmanuelebassi.name B: http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/ From murrayc@murrayc.com Wed Jul 17 10:56:03 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0066276FAE for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:56:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iVuxOShtpsPB for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:55:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE29C76FCC for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:55:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6936216B8; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 06:55:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 06:55:48 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:subject:from:to:cc:date :in-reply-to:references:content-type:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=zgrAOFVjTGjNcj8Tt8qEL5 R/avs=; b=HY8nv22vyl5ydsp22LTHIdFqtRBbC6Vi8FFLvGLL9OcGn2zFmZaDCF /G9SQlfHRTJyrjIATMit74DxWFQeevGgKYdTgmekdahhkwoQamXiVoVgQxkSMw3g YqFYu/e2GZLYAmAfm7Pp5tntEnPNG5xNje1NEknvRQ/DxIJiQJ548= X-Sasl-enc: uLcqdHhgLDWElETp/Xc9d1tv32STKGzpdLvmKdk2/JO8 1374058547 Received: from [192.168.0.20] (unknown [62.245.151.5]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 2B91FC00E81; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 06:55:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1374058545.3367.25.camel@murrayc-desktop> Subject: Re: Stock Items Deprecation From: Murray Cumming To: Emmanuele Bassi Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:55:45 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <1374054469.3367.20.camel@murrayc-desktop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.4-0ubuntu1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: GTK Devel List X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:56:03 -0000 On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 11:23 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: [snip] > in general, GtkUIManager should be replaced by GtkBuilder, so that > could be added to the long description of the class instead of each > public entry point in the API. [snip] Is there some way, as with GtkUIManager, to merge in, and later remove and replace, menu items? I used this with GtkUIManager to dynamically populate a menu with items not known at compile time. I see gtk_builder_add_from_string(), but I don't see how to remove items without destroying the entire GtkBuilder structure. -- Murray Cumming murrayc@murrayc.com www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com From kmzhou4@yahoo.com Mon Jul 15 23:12:04 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82490765C2 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 23:12:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.054 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.054 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT=0.25, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.556] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KSU3e3A7-yjr for ; 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charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All,=0A=0ANot sure I am reaching the right group or not. =0A=0A=0AHere I= am having a tough problem with gobject-introspection.=A0 I have at least b= uild > 2000 packages in my career as a programmer.=A0 This is the first tim= e, it failed at the 'make install' stage.=A0 =0A=0A=0AHere is the backgroun= d:=0AMy machine (brand new) has RedHat 6.4, I realized this is very old, so= I have installed a few hundres packages in the /usr/local/ including mostl= y system related (the gnu 4.8.1 compiler included).=A0 So far so good.=0A= =0AMy pkgconfig path points to /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig=0A=0AI have tried w= ith gobject-introspection-1.37.4, and 10 versions down.=A0 They all have ex= actly the same problem:=0Asetting the include directory (glib-2.0) director= y to the old /usr/ directory instead of the /usr/local=0A=0AI saw several o= ther people had the same problem, but have not seen any solutions.=A0 =0A= =0A=0AIf anyone has a hit please let me know.=0A=0AThanks.=0A=0AKemin=0A --783862642-35785510-1373929907=:57275 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi All,

<= div>

Not sure I am reaching the right group or not.

Here I am having a tough problem with gobject-in= trospection. I have at least build > 2000 packages in my career as= a programmer. This is the first time, it failed at the 'make install= ' stage.

Here is the background:

My machine (brand new) has RedHat 6.4, I realized this is very old= , so I have installed a few hundres packages in the /usr/local/ including m= ostly system related (the gnu 4.8.1 compiler included). So far so goo= d.

My pkgconfig path points to /usr/local/l= ib/pkgconfig

I have tried with gobject-introsp= ection-1.37.4, and 10 versions down. They all have exactly the same p= roblem:

setting the include directory (glib-2.0) directory to t= he old /usr/ directory instead of the /usr/local

I saw several other people had the same problem, but have not seen any s= olutions.

If anyone has a hit pleas= e let me know.

Thanks.

Kemin

--783862642-35785510-1373929907=:57275-- From amigadave@amigadave.com Wed Jul 17 13:18:05 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6414770F1 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:18:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LBEGVpfR7yuN for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:18:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 454 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at restaurant.gnome.org; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:18:01 UTC Received: from p3plsmtpa06-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.107]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 736EE76A1E for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:17:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([82.31.189.25]) by p3plsmtpa06-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id 1RAF1m00C0ZKBJi01RAGPy; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 06:10:17 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:10:14 +0100 From: David King To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Stock Items Deprecation Message-ID: <20130717131014.GD2089@microserver.redhat.com> Mail-Followup-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org References: <1374054469.3367.20.camel@murrayc-desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="11Y7aswkeuHtSBEs" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:18:05 -0000 --11Y7aswkeuHtSBEs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi On 2013-07-17 11:23, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: >I'm sure documentation patches are welcome; I'll gladly review them. I filed a bug about the GtkAction deprecation notices, with a patch: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D704392 It probably needs someone who is more intimately involved with GAction=20 and the associated machinery than I am to review it. It would also be=20 good to copy some information to: https://wiki.gnome.org/HowDoI/GAction Does there need to be a migration guide, like the GTK+ 2 to 3 guide that=20 is in the API reference, or should that go on the wiki too? --=20 http://amigadave.com/ --11Y7aswkeuHtSBEs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJR5pewAAoJELDo4PCTCLTjv/AP/j8a+RDu/rqQJjkFdjD3/XCA cxHraQR3Nn/nv45N2gTYvAibdwtf7W26nXGk+9rtQryPwgNV1flzYAi215sfam1+ S+0ZjpMQP6W+lQa0LMamxPC6XVEPgCx47GAonj+14QdFFVh0bVYCB72deijA7+CH Tv6swufdz+tYw35uiuAx2e0zqKsCpaZgLqDiORd0XiiRJU+28pEf7iwWvmdGlYMu UmpevbyomWk9ktLP783It9sg36Ux2ZC+j9u3TFFNw3++NwV13+SPI/etXeliSAf0 XAfPESZmGCjezhlDH/r/xkQPjMVNNa4SAQvUPW3eycO0+qu4ozFzUcLSRovbLE2E 283460E0OsFhCS6oYTbTwfuSZoWHayfBNgn3LB5IfHPKixfA+VkeV3z787sIB+yZ Nwy2GCM72iN4s7ZAZR91OTlwSZZ+klOiC72gWeZAe6rhdAXBQU0sx5g96NkAbufU 4DRxVRiJJyoAXly9sGMFefFqFpAASoA8Wa853eswFzTzODAQyuWB4R2ES+sWBmRx 7RmuHAtBSg+i+lNtfIg35BSLj7v4W56ZsGPghMKzBKHkq7j1LFzVbe55691T7pr/ b2hv2a+XrIoqwM4ra1PdNZoflmsoVNlNLQhpvWAuWa8+qgGY5ZBCnuJSXblK2/up XSB3aS4/vw9GX9Kjkxlv =jV1n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --11Y7aswkeuHtSBEs-- From mwelinder@gmail.com Wed Jul 17 13:40:14 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5977703F for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:40:14 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IeUpO5z_0ePC for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:40:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com (mail-wi0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B4C769D0 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:40:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f182.google.com with SMTP id m6so1970325wiv.3 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 06:39:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=+Fw5gPArpfnUUbj/ag8qTDO8kgyQqAtl58nJlVYSLTM=; b=nXKFAb2xgYMn3JKsTZzomn28jgMegarHoqFOqTTSREMFxp/K1VQzpnaUjXY0YfmeNn h/1ih6L78gTUXwxulDUkkQ0XNlaEHgCkwaqKgtTna08ReCrvTa6BZHhRNvBetl5UsACb DwziRSX/UL/xBATZn4hb8m//DAZtV1WceKQErsnT5akiVIm6YC3qso1heN/XRb0creb9 yQzGVJ7rKkPDPl+jDchxzq6II7Lcotvq6v7grA3XJqygcui7OF6MBmvrKQp6Bk/hNtxn d3G7s5ugbfZFkCocsiTJ2NKGb5clYO+Maw8n0kGJnw5E99Gz1MZxUq2sYfCGgNMvbXTB k8kg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.20.116 with SMTP id m20mr4693763wie.46.1374068399201; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 06:39:59 -0700 (PDT) Sender: mwelinder@gmail.com Received: by 10.194.165.129 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 06:39:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1374058545.3367.25.camel@murrayc-desktop> References: <1374054469.3367.20.camel@murrayc-desktop> <1374058545.3367.25.camel@murrayc-desktop> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:39:59 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: nxp9l-KoyIb4to1G3RwFAOfk6F8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stock Items Deprecation From: Morten Welinder To: GTK Devel List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Murray Cumming X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:40:15 -0000 > Is there some way, as with GtkUIManager, to merge in, and later remove > and replace, menu items? I used this with GtkUIManager to dynamically > populate a menu with items not known at compile time. Specifically, how does one create menus like Firefox's History and Bookmarks menus which have dynamic contents? Or gedit's Documents menu? Morten From tarnyko@s15847124.domainepardefaut.fr Wed Jul 17 15:15:44 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4722B76B85 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:15:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.456 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.456 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.556] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HQtfTJWW7vw3 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:15:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from s15847124.domainepardefaut.fr (s15847124.domainepardefaut.fr [87.106.97.98]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90520765B1 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:15:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tarnyko by s15847124.domainepardefaut.fr with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UzTRx-0006cS-Op; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 17:15:29 +0200 References: <416209.47825.bm@smtp115-mob.biz.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <92C1D2DB-B197-4456-ADA3-007EBE945C3B@tiscali.co.uk> <51E654E5.7030409@yahoo.com.tw> In-Reply-To: <51E654E5.7030409@yahoo.com.tw> From: Tarnyko To: Fan Chun-wei Subject: Re: Regarding gdbus-codegen (was: Re: glib-mkenums in glib 2) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 17:15:29 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Cc: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:15:44 -0000 Hi Fan, Thanks for sharing. FYI, MinGW makefiles from latest master generate and install "gdbus-codegen" correctly. You may want to take inspiration from them if you plan to add gdbus-codegen generation for MSVC (don't know this toolchain enough to do it myself). I just suggested a little path change : https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=702862 Regards, Tarnyko Fan Chun-wei writes: > Hi John, > > (list people: I understand this is a rather old topic that was brought > up few months ago:) ). > > I was poking around with the Python scripts for gdbus-codegen lately, > and I thought it might be good to let you know a few things about its > use on Windows, especially under Visual Studio builds of GLib > It appears that one wouldn't have to change anything in those Python > scripts (at least from the release stable/unstable tarballs) so that > they can be ran on Windows. > > What I found is that for it to work "installed" on Windows (suppose your > GLib "installation" is in c:\foo): > -From $(srcroot)\gio\gdbus-2.0\codegen, copy the gdbus-codegen.in file > as-is to c:\foo\bin, and renaming it as gdbus-codegen. (This files has > support for Windows regarding path issues without needing to process the > file with autotools) > -Copy all the .py files in $(srcroot)\gio\gdbus-2.0\codegen to > c:\foo\lib\gdbus-2.0\codegen as is. > > So this will basically work when you have the following layout > c:\ > foo\ > bin\ > gdbus-codegen (renamed from gdbus-codegen.in) > lib\ > gdbus-2.0\ > codegen\ > codegen.py > codegen_docbook.py > codegen_main.py > config.py > dbustypes.py > parser.py > utils.py > __init__.py > > Hope this may be of help. Unfortunately I can't run the > gdbus-test-codegen test program as it uses items from GIO-UNIX, but it > does seem to me that generating the test sources in-tree (with > UNINSTALLED_GLIB_SRCDIR set) and using the script in the layout I just > mentioned (without UNINSTALLED_GLIB_SRCDIR set, obviously) produce > identical results. > > With blessings. > _______________________________________________ > gtk-devel-list mailing list > gtk-devel-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list From juanpablougarte@gmail.com Wed Jul 17 16:52:43 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D571765B1 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:52:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3BIn9CVwf2qb for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pb0-f45.google.com (mail-pb0-f45.google.com [209.85.160.45]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A976771C0 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:52:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f45.google.com with SMTP id mc8so2098428pbc.18 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:52:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:subject:from:to:date:in-reply-to:references:content-type :x-mailer:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oLvbQ6q42A2SR1hs8eOM++GDiQJPFoXu8BhC9qxsj7o=; b=MwRSkaf9sdNkg9rzmVw6uYAc91B6ZOrlVoxCI/s1ZjvYe8p/MSNNu+jr1NlONNPGna g7/jpSHsEVbVrgh9ga/l+8tB9kz/shmW7ZITihTljVD3N7zXlO92eKQ9b2p2MceBsnmU lT6HGyQNT/Y2FIDjRJiBiIJSyB98PaSSvB5YcE7ZU8tI3ZHB1cG83sOSDKj8KpY8RhpB +U6k3qZlg2XRJ3u4tX0ZMPonXnHNluKNmKW3GcZprCuTIi8K3TQZ37Wv159g+G1cMgA5 vBWFWq6cZLwu/3e+vi4haAUQR4iVYaxWTuz5pXEK9zXuus4hU3MSSOwj0SrHSImdKivc 76FA== X-Received: by 10.66.234.71 with SMTP id uc7mr8790228pac.10.1374079938150; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (host109.190-224-54.telecom.net.ar. [190.224.54.109]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id x8sm8736407pbb.39.2013.07.17.09.52.15 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1374079931.18531.17.camel@Xjuan> Subject: Re: Stock Items Deprecation From: Juan Pablo Ugarte To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:52:11 -0300 In-Reply-To: <1374058545.3367.25.camel@murrayc-desktop> References: <1374054469.3367.20.camel@murrayc-desktop> <1374058545.3367.25.camel@murrayc-desktop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.2-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:52:43 -0000 On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 12:55 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: > On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 11:23 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > [snip] > > in general, GtkUIManager should be replaced by GtkBuilder, so that > > could be added to the long description of the class instead of each > > public entry point in the API. > [snip] > > Is there some way, as with GtkUIManager, to merge in, and later remove > and replace, menu items? I used this with GtkUIManager to dynamically > populate a menu with items not known at compile time. No there is not, but as with any dynamic UI you can always fallback to code. IIRC what I did with Glade was to use an action group for all the dynamic content (project's items) so it is easy to distinguish with one are autogenerated and need to be regenerated. You can also use a separator or hidden item as an insertion point. Of course all this needs some custom code and we should have a simple way to do this. Perhaps adding a simple api like this would let you easily know where to start deleting/adding dynamic items gint gtk_menu_shell_get_child_position (GtkMenuShell *menu_shell, GtkWidget *child); > I see gtk_builder_add_from_string(), but I don't see how to remove items > without destroying the entire GtkBuilder structure. Anyway we need to improve menu building with GtkBuilder, we need to add support for GAction/GMenuModel and all those classes. The problem I see with this is that some of those classes (GSimpleActionGroup for example) will have to implement GtkBuildable which can not be done because its on another library. So maybe it is time to move GtkBuilder to GLib I guess we could rename GtkBuilder to GBuilder and move it to glib. I am not sure if we can maintain ABI by making a new GtkBuilder class derive from GBuilder. In any case we would also deprecate GtkBuilder. so its a lot of work, and that is why Glade still does not support GAction :( cheers JP From johne53@tiscali.co.uk Wed Jul 17 18:04:25 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C2C76D4E for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 18:04:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.206 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.206 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.556, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c9Olzn-NxdcK for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 18:04:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.tiscali.co.uk [212.74.100.52]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE7C76A10 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 18:04:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Trace: 875202732/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.104.27.89/None/johne53@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.104.27.89 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: johne53@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBAAbc5lFYaBtZ/2dsb2JhbAANTYM6wyGBJ4MXAQEBBAEBATU2ChELGAkWDwkDAgECARUiAQ0GDQYCAQGIGKMckkWOSIE5g3sDmQWEZ45QgXA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,686,1367967600"; d="scan'208";a="875202732" Received: from 88-104-27-89.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO [192.168.1.3]) ([88.104.27.89]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 17 Jul 2013 19:03:42 +0100 X-Vipre-Scanned: 0007DC790000000007DDC6-TDI Message-ID: <51E6DC7E.8050808@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:03:42 +0100 From: John Emmas User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gtk-devel-list Subject: Re: Regarding gdbus-codegen References: <416209.47825.bm@smtp115-mob.biz.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <92C1D2DB-B197-4456-ADA3-007EBE945C3B@tiscali.co.uk> <51E654E5.7030409@yahoo.com.tw> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 18:04:25 -0000 Thanks guys. My memory is hazy now but from what I can recall, any lines like this were always problematic;- from . import some_module No matter what I did, I couldn't get (Windows) Python to understand what "from ." meant. If the module to be imported was in a subfolder - e.g. from the_subfolder import some_module that worked fine - but "from ." wouldn't work at all for me. John On 17/07/2013 16:15, Tarnyko wrote: > Hi Fan, > Thanks for sharing. FYI, MinGW makefiles from latest master generate > and install "gdbus-codegen" correctly. You may want to take > inspiration from them if you plan to add gdbus-codegen generation for > MSVC (don't know this toolchain enough to do it myself). > I just suggested a little path change : > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=702862 > Regards, > Tarnyko > > Fan Chun-wei writes: >> Hi John, >> (list people: I understand this is a rather old topic that was brought >> up few months ago:) ). >> I was poking around with the Python scripts for gdbus-codegen lately, >> and I thought it might be good to let you know a few things about its >> use on Windows, especially under Visual Studio builds of GLib >> It appears that one wouldn't have to change anything in those Python >> scripts (at least from the release stable/unstable tarballs) so that >> they can be ran on Windows. >> What I found is that for it to work "installed" on Windows (suppose your >> GLib "installation" is in c:\foo): >> -From $(srcroot)\gio\gdbus-2.0\codegen, copy the gdbus-codegen.in file >> as-is to c:\foo\bin, and renaming it as gdbus-codegen. (This files has >> support for Windows regarding path issues without needing to process the >> file with autotools) >> -Copy all the .py files in $(srcroot)\gio\gdbus-2.0\codegen to >> c:\foo\lib\gdbus-2.0\codegen as is. >> So this will basically work when you have the following layout >> c:\ >> foo\ >> bin\ >> gdbus-codegen (renamed from gdbus-codegen.in) >> lib\ >> gdbus-2.0\ >> codegen\ >> codegen.py >> codegen_docbook.py >> codegen_main.py >> config.py >> dbustypes.py >> parser.py >> utils.py >> __init__.py >> Hope this may be of help. Unfortunately I can't run the >> gdbus-test-codegen test program as it uses items from GIO-UNIX, but it >> does seem to me that generating the test sources in-tree (with >> UNINSTALLED_GLIB_SRCDIR set) and using the script in the layout I just >> mentioned (without UNINSTALLED_GLIB_SRCDIR set, obviously) produce >> identical results. >> With blessings. >> _______________________________________________ >> gtk-devel-list mailing list >> gtk-devel-list@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list > _______________________________________________ > gtk-devel-list mailing list > gtk-devel-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list > From tarnyko@s15847124.domainepardefaut.fr Wed Jul 17 18:55:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89AAA765AB for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 18:55:26 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.456 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.456 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.556] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QckhOvOFSXS5 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 18:55:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from s15847124.domainepardefaut.fr (s15847124.domainepardefaut.fr [87.106.97.98]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56981768DC for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 18:55:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tarnyko by s15847124.domainepardefaut.fr with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UzWsQ-0006j1-Dr; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 20:55:02 +0200 References: <416209.47825.bm@smtp115-mob.biz.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <92C1D2DB-B197-4456-ADA3-007EBE945C3B@tiscali.co.uk> <51E654E5.7030409@yahoo.com.tw> <51E6DC7E.8050808@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <51E6DC7E.8050808@tiscali.co.uk> From: Tarnyko To: John Emmas Subject: Re: Regarding gdbus-codegen Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 20:55:02 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Cc: gtk-devel-list X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 18:55:26 -0000 Hmmm, that's strange, works here. - in "gdbus-codegen", we have : path="$PATH:/lib/gdbus-2.0" from codegen import codegen_main - and in "/lib/gdbus-2.0/codegen/codegen_main.py" we have : from . import config where "config.py" is in the same directory. Using Windows (not MSYS) Python 2.5, and GTK+3.6.4 from : http://www.tarnyko.net/repo/gtk3_build_system gtk+-bundle_3.6.4-20130513_win32.zip Running : python gdbus-codegen Regards, Tarnyko John Emmas writes: > Thanks guys. > > My memory is hazy now but from what I can recall, any lines like this were > always problematic;- > > from . import some_module > > No matter what I did, I couldn't get (Windows) Python to understand what > "from ." meant. If the module to be imported was in a subfolder - e.g. > > from the_subfolder import some_module > > that worked fine - but "from ." wouldn't work at all for me. > > John > > > On 17/07/2013 16:15, Tarnyko wrote: >> Hi Fan, >> Thanks for sharing. FYI, MinGW makefiles from latest master generate and >> install "gdbus-codegen" correctly. You may want to take inspiration from >> them if you plan to add gdbus-codegen generation for MSVC (don't know >> this toolchain enough to do it myself). >> I just suggested a little path change : >> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=702862 >> Regards, >> Tarnyko >> >> Fan Chun-wei writes: >>> Hi John, >>> (list people: I understand this is a rather old topic that was brought >>> up few months ago:) ). >>> I was poking around with the Python scripts for gdbus-codegen lately, >>> and I thought it might be good to let you know a few things about its >>> use on Windows, especially under Visual Studio builds of GLib >>> It appears that one wouldn't have to change anything in those Python >>> scripts (at least from the release stable/unstable tarballs) so that >>> they can be ran on Windows. >>> What I found is that for it to work "installed" on Windows (suppose your >>> GLib "installation" is in c:\foo): >>> -From $(srcroot)\gio\gdbus-2.0\codegen, copy the gdbus-codegen.in file >>> as-is to c:\foo\bin, and renaming it as gdbus-codegen. (This files has >>> support for Windows regarding path issues without needing to process the >>> file with autotools) >>> -Copy all the .py files in $(srcroot)\gio\gdbus-2.0\codegen to >>> c:\foo\lib\gdbus-2.0\codegen as is. >>> So this will basically work when you have the following layout >>> c:\ >>> foo\ >>> bin\ >>> gdbus-codegen (renamed from gdbus-codegen.in) >>> lib\ >>> gdbus-2.0\ >>> codegen\ >>> codegen.py >>> codegen_docbook.py >>> codegen_main.py >>> config.py >>> dbustypes.py >>> parser.py >>> utils.py >>> __init__.py >>> Hope this may be of help. Unfortunately I can't run the >>> gdbus-test-codegen test program as it uses items from GIO-UNIX, but it >>> does seem to me that generating the test sources in-tree (with >>> UNINSTALLED_GLIB_SRCDIR set) and using the script in the layout I just >>> mentioned (without UNINSTALLED_GLIB_SRCDIR set, obviously) produce >>> identical results. >>> With blessings. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> gtk-devel-list mailing list >>> gtk-devel-list@gnome.org >>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list >> _______________________________________________ >> gtk-devel-list mailing list >> gtk-devel-list@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list >> > > _______________________________________________ > gtk-devel-list mailing list > gtk-devel-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list From walters@verbum.org Wed Jul 17 22:40:20 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44D576A72 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 22:40:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3XexdfcqV1M0 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 22:40:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F356476A4E for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 22:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.45]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5612126D; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 18:39:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 18:39:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references :content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=2V8YkzBK/KFOQPD0Ki36WT nLluk=; b=XjUpXMBGq5HUbvL9ht7Fq3RiSO4hZYgCZuO14JaPCpbhGCfAKX3Tew BDlGlOFwezuxc4cZ4ebNrJot0PDNZNrR+WoGiYWZJ99uWWDTniCeicNu/udqLlLT HtFQb/g4Dj87B4ZfGngyhUBn0r4wvFsfEgqLcc01xX2ADeiApBtSs= X-Sasl-enc: M42Jm1wUxc1FTB0gHQ80OW9ttPvOMapE/4SH262uW9dD 1374100795 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unknown [66.31.18.51]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id AFC566800BB; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 18:39:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: building gobject-introspection failed From: Colin Walters To: Kemin Zhou In-Reply-To: <1373929907.57275.YahooMailNeo@web141401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1373929907.57275.YahooMailNeo@web141401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 18:39:54 -0400 Message-ID: <1374100794.29280.51.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3 (2.32.3-13.el6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "gtk-devel-list@gnome.org" X-BeenThere: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of GTK+ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 22:40:21 -0000 On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 16:11 -0700, Kemin Zhou wrote: > Here is the background: > My machine (brand new) has RedHat 6.4 I build the gnome-3-8 branch of gobject-introspection for RHEL 6.4 too, but I use jhbuild. This version of g-i is used to bootstrap the gnome-ostree build system which does continuous integration of g-i master inside a chroot. > , I realized this is very old, so I have installed a few hundres > packages in the /usr/local/ Broadly speaking, I'm only going to support "well known" build systems. These include: rpm (mock), dpkg (pbuilder), OpenEmbedded, jhbuild, gnome-ostree. I know g-i builds in all of the above. If you're making up your own build system, the onus is on you to figure out the delta between your own system and one of the above. I assume we're talking about https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=704290 ? In that case, it looks to me like the g-i configure step is not picking up the right glib. This is where systems like jhbuild and mock/pbuilder are more correct - the former contains a "canonical" set of environment variable overrides. The mock/pbuilder approaches (as well as gnome-ostree) always create pristine build roots, so they largely avoid host contamination issues like this. 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