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Gnomemeeting has been included in the internet phone database
at http://www.iphone.milescape.com/, its detail shows that the
Gnomemeeting supports other languages except English, who knows 
what other languages are? or you re-submit it.

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On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 19:40:08 -0800 (PST)
A B <thefirstwebchef@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Gnomemeeting has been included in the internet phone database
> at http://www.iphone.milescape.com/, its detail shows that the
> Gnomemeeting supports other languages except English, who knows 
> what other languages are? or you re-submit it.

Here is the answer ;)

[aflinta@warp aflinta]$ rpm -ql gnomemeeting |grep .mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/cs/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/da/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/el/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/gl/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/hu/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/no/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/pt/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/sk/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/ta/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/vi/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/wa/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo


					Artur
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On Saturday 30 November 2002 04:41, william bastian wrote:
> that answered my question.  the ymessenger available from yahoo for
> linux does not support video conferencing and they say they have no
> immediate plans to make it happen.  just goes to show that  it will tak=
e
> some more market penetration by linux before they  sit up and take
> notice.
>     maybe netmeeting is what i am puzzling over, comes along with
> msnmessenger, have not used a web camera on that very often, it is not
> very good quality compared with ymessenger video, which is good
> i do know you have to open TCP 5100 on the firewall in the router for
> the new super-web camera feature  that they have in the current
> ymessenger 5.5 that people with high speed access can use,  dsl or cabl=
e
> modem.  i am using a dsl modem and a linksys router to hook both my
> windows 2k and the linux  mandrake 9.0 computers up to the dsl modem.
> both computers have 256meg of ram and are running at 1 gig for
> processors, amd brand processors.  using ethernet 10-100 cards  to the
> router and ethernet into the dsl modem.
> i am using mandrake linux 9.0, the 8.2 mandrake linux had a copy of
> gnome-meeting with it, but it never worked.  this 9.0 does see a
> logitech netcam express, a picture comes up on the screen.  just do nee=
d
> to know what to put in the address to make things happen, to get onto
> something like netmeeting.  again, i  understand that gnome-meeting is
> evolving and has not even reached 1.0 yet,  so writing a extensive
> instruction book for it might  be a bit of a waste of time since it wil=
l
> be changing.
>     so what do i put in that address window when it shows up?? the
> msnmessenger ID of the person i would like to netmeet with?  is there a
> special syntax or order?  remember, like a lot of windows user i am
> pretty much a point and click specialist(build my own computers and and
> get them running, including windows, and attempting to learn the linux
> mandrake operating system, which IS considerably different) so slowly
> attempting to learn the linux operating system a little at a time.
>   thanks for answering that question!  dissipates some fog!! i will als=
o
> work on cutting down the length of my responses.thanks for your
> patience. bill
>
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Hello

Try this link:http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/mdoc/user/video-apps.html
Good luck

Pablo



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capture images from video?

thanks

vete


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Le dim 01/12/2002 à 20:00, francesco.melo a écrit :
> capture images from video?
> 
> thanks


File menu -> Save ... It will be saved in your home directory.
Only pics, no mpeg video yet.


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Slackware packages of GM 0.94.1 are now available thanks to Vincent
Deroo. I would like to thank Alain Buret who also made packages.

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Hi,

I coded a lot this WE to improve the Quicknet support in GnomeMeeting.
It is now nearly complete, I just plan to improve the code tonight.

Please, if you own a Quicknet card, and want to test, contact me
privately. Thanks!


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Hi,

It "seems"  working well with gnomemeeting with seconix.com :
I can see all the people connecting ...
I try to connect on some of them ,
but it tries to connect , I wait,wait,  nothing happens
OR,
after a short time : "connection terminated"
sometimes I have the connection :
a web-cam image appears :
I send a message and I never receive a answer !=20
quid ?
does it come from "gnomemeeting" or "seconix" ?
thanks
Antoine

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It probalby comes from bad configuration on your side.

Are you NATted?

Le lun 02/12/2002 à 21:03, antoine a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> It "seems"  working well with gnomemeeting with seconix.com :
> I can see all the people connecting ...
> I try to connect on some of them ,
> but it tries to connect , I wait,wait,  nothing happens
> OR,
> after a short time : "connection terminated"
> sometimes I have the connection :
> a web-cam image appears :
> I send a message and I never receive a answer ! 
> quid ?
> does it come from "gnomemeeting" or "seconix" ?
> thanks
> Antoine
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Le Mardi 3 D=E9cembre 2002 09:44, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> It probalby comes from bad configuration on your side.
> Are you NATted?
-----------
what do you mean about : "NATted" ?
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Am Dienstag, 3. Dezember 2002 12:25 schrieb antoine:
> Le Mardi 3 D=E9cembre 2002 09:44, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> > It probalby comes from bad configuration on your side.
> > Are you NATted?
>
> -----------
> what do you mean about : "NATted" ?
> antoine

NATed =3D behind a firewall inside a private network.=20
NAT =3D Network Adress Translation, it maps private IP's (like 10.0.x.x or=
=20
192.168.x.x) to official adresses. Normally you use it if you only have one=
=20
official IP, but many local clients ...

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Le Mardi 3 D=E9cembre 2002 09:44, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> It probalby comes from bad configuration on your side.
> Are you NATted?
-------------------------------------
Hi,

A friend-user makes this command on MY IP on seconix :

nmap -O 62.147.123.60
Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, =
try=20
-P0
Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (0 hosts up) scanned in 30 seconds
------------------------
the user on his PC :
nmap -O 212.194.78.197
Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
Interesting ports on lns04a-7-197.w.club-internet.fr (212.194.78.197):
(The 1594 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
Port       State       Service
80/tcp     open        http                   =20
443/tcp    open        https                  =20
515/tcp    open        printer                =20
631/tcp    open        ipp                    =20
1720/tcp   open        H.323/Q.931            =20
6000/tcp   open        X11                    =20
7000/tcp   open        afs3-fileserver        =20
Remote operating system guess: Linux Kernel 2.4.0 - 2.5.20
Uptime 0.134 days (since Mon Dec  2 19:35:35 2002)

Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 7 second
---------------------
So, it works on the user but not with my IP ...
problem of firewall ?
thanks
antoine

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Le mar 03/12/2002 à 12:36, antoine a écrit :

> So, it works on the user but not with my IP ...

I don't understand this.

> problem of firewall ?

If you have a firewall, yes it can be a problem. I would suggest you to
read the FAQ, that should help you to debug your problem...

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Hi,
me again :

=46rom my PC connected to seconix , I type :

 nmap -O 62.147.137.217

Starting nmap V. 2.54BETA31 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
Interesting ports on nas-cbv-3-62-147-137-217.dial.proxad.net=20
(62.147.137.217):
(The 1551 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
Port       State       Service
515/tcp    open        printer
6000/tcp   open        X11
-----------
I have not the :=20
1720/tcp   open        H.323/Q.931            =20

quid ?

thanks

antoine Wach=E9


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Try nmap -p 1720 62.147.137.217
but that wouldn't help anyway.
Please read the FAQ to debug your problem. You don't give enough info
about the problem for us to be able to debug it. You might also have
contacted people with a wrong setup on ILS. Many users on ILS register
without having tested anything.

Le mar 03/12/2002 à 12:57, antoine a écrit :
> Hi,
> me again :
> 
> From my PC connected to seconix , I type :
> 
>  nmap -O 62.147.137.217
> 
> Starting nmap V. 2.54BETA31 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
> Interesting ports on nas-cbv-3-62-147-137-217.dial.proxad.net 
> (62.147.137.217):
> (The 1551 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
> Port       State       Service
> 515/tcp    open        printer
> 6000/tcp   open        X11
> -----------
> I have not the : 
> 1720/tcp   open        H.323/Q.931             
> 
> quid ?
> 
> thanks
> 
> antoine Waché
> 
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Le Mardi 3 D=E9cembre 2002 11:04, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> Try nmap -p 1720 62.147.137.217
> but that wouldn't help anyway.
> Please read the FAQ to debug your problem. You don't give enough info
> about the problem for us to be able to debug it. You might also have
> contacted people with a wrong setup on ILS. Many users on ILS register
> without having tested anything.
> > -----------
> > I have not the :
> > 1720/tcp   open        H.323/Q.931
------------------------------
difficult to say more precisions ...
-------
I read the FAQ : no subject about : "no message received ..."
it's why I contact this list :-)
-----
I try to connect on your name (Damien Sandras) on seconix but no answer.
I can connect to many people , they receive my messages but I don't recei=
ve=20
their message.
-----
Do I have to configure /etc/ldap.conf ?

bye

antoine



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I'm in do not disturb mode =>
13:09:36 Appel de antoine Henri  qui utilise gnomemeeting	0.85.1	9/61
13:09:36 Refusé automatiquement

Your GnomeMeeting is 0.85.1, and yes there can be problems with messages
transmission between 0.9x and 0.85.1 because we are doing this in UTF-8
in GM 0.9x. You should upgrade to a newer version.

If you want to make sure your GnomeMeeting is well configured, please go
on the IRC channel and ask to somebody to test with you.

Le mar 03/12/2002 à 15:25, antoine a écrit :
> Le Mardi 3 Décembre 2002 11:04, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> > Try nmap -p 1720 62.147.137.217
> > but that wouldn't help anyway.
> > Please read the FAQ to debug your problem. You don't give enough info
> > about the problem for us to be able to debug it. You might also have
> > contacted people with a wrong setup on ILS. Many users on ILS register
> > without having tested anything.
> > > -----------
> > > I have not the :
> > > 1720/tcp   open        H.323/Q.931
> ------------------------------
> difficult to say more precisions ...
> -------
> I read the FAQ : no subject about : "no message received ..."
> it's why I contact this list :-)
> -----
> I try to connect on your name (Damien Sandras) on seconix but no answer.
> I can connect to many people , they receive my messages but I don't receive 
> their message.
> -----
> Do I have to configure /etc/ldap.conf ?
> 
> bye
> 
> antoine
> 
> 
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Le Mardi 3 D=E9cembre 2002 13:28, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> I'm in do not disturb mode =3D>
> 13:09:36 Appel de antoine Henri  qui utilise gnomemeeting=090.85.1=099/=
61
> 13:09:36 Refus=E9 automatiquement
> Your GnomeMeeting is 0.85.1, and yes there can be problems with message=
s
> transmission between 0.9x and 0.85.1 because we are doing this in UTF-8
> in GM 0.9x. You should upgrade to a newer version.
ok, it's what I have to do ...=20
> If you want to make sure your GnomeMeeting is well configured, please g=
o
> on the IRC channel and ask to somebody to test with you.
Sorry but :-) : How to do go to a IRC channel and do a IRC chat ?
antoine

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On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 03:03:21PM +0000, antoine wrote:
> Sorry but :-) : How to do go to a IRC channel and do a IRC chat ?
> antoine

Shame on you Antoine ! Google "irc linux" and read your way through. Use
the chat client that goes with Mozilla if you like. I find it easy to use.

Have a good read. Tonight around 22:00 I'll probably have GM up and we can 
test your setup if you like.
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As promised, I reported this bug to the gk-developers list and within a
day or two they (actually Chih-Wei Huang) confirmed the issue and has
committed a fix to the 2_0 branch of cvs for those, like me, who can't
wait.  I tried it and it now works.  For those who can wait, it should
be fixed in v2.03 of gnugk.


On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 20:30, Marc Williams wrote:
> Sadly, the new 2.02 version of gnugk, while perhaps fixing Joachim's
> problem, does _not_ fix the issue I had previously reported.  I just got
> through building gnugk 2.02 and with one test, I can tell you that the
> problem still exists the same as it was for version 2.00.
> 
> Namely, 
> 1) GM can call GM and everything works.
> 2) NM can call NM and everything works.
> 2) GM can call NM and everything works.
> 3) NM can call GM and only audio works.  No video.
> 
> I'll be reporting this to the gk lists soon.
> 


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Thanks a lot!!!


Le mar 03/12/2002 à 16:53, Marc Williams a écrit :
> As promised, I reported this bug to the gk-developers list and within a
> day or two they (actually Chih-Wei Huang) confirmed the issue and has
> committed a fix to the 2_0 branch of cvs for those, like me, who can't
> wait.  I tried it and it now works.  For those who can wait, it should
> be fixed in v2.03 of gnugk.
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 20:30, Marc Williams wrote:
> > Sadly, the new 2.02 version of gnugk, while perhaps fixing Joachim's
> > problem, does _not_ fix the issue I had previously reported.  I just got
> > through building gnugk 2.02 and with one test, I can tell you that the
> > problem still exists the same as it was for version 2.00.
> > 
> > Namely, 
> > 1) GM can call GM and everything works.
> > 2) NM can call NM and everything works.
> > 2) GM can call NM and everything works.
> > 3) NM can call GM and only audio works.  No video.
> > 
> > I'll be reporting this to the gk lists soon.
> > 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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Hi all;


Could all people owning a Quicknet card and subscribed to this mailing
list mail me ?

That would be very kind to test the latest changes so that the next
release can be very stable.

Thanks,
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% *** Willem Kuiters <wkuiters@free.fr> wrote: ***
% On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 03:03:21PM +0000, antoine wrote:
% > Sorry but :-) : How to do go to a IRC channel and do a IRC chat ?
% > antoine
% 
% Shame on you Antoine ! Google "irc linux" and read your way through. Use
% the chat client that goes with Mozilla if you like. I find it easy to use.
% 

If you don't know which IRC client is used for Linux, try 'irssi' and/or
irssi-gtk for graphical mode.

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Hi,
I try to update gnomemeeting
----------------------------
5.2.1. Compile PWlib
 You have to compile PWlib that way:
tar xvzf pwlib_x.x.x.tar.gz
$ export PWLIBDIR=3D<the directory where you extracted pwlib>
$ cd $PWLIBDIR
$ make opt
$ cp -d $PWLIBDIR/lib/*so* /usr/lib
$ ln -s /usr/lib/libpt_linux_x86_r.so.x.x.x /usr/lib/libpt.so
----------------
5.2.2. Compile OpenH323
 You have to compile OpenH323 that way:=20
$ tar xvzf openh323_x.x.x.tar.gz
$ export OPENH323DIR=3D<the directory where you extracted OpenH323>
$ cd $OPENH323DIR
$ make opt
$ cp -d $OPENH323DIR/lib/*so* /usr/lib
$ ln -s /usr/lib/libh323_linux_x86_r.so.x.x.x /usr/lib/libopenh323.so
----------------------
So I do exactly what is write up and receive this answer
when I want to compile :
-----------------
[root@localhost opt]# cd $PWLIBDIR
[root@localhost pwlib]# make both
make/ptlib.mak:41: pwlib/make/unix.mak: Aucun fichier ou r=E9pertoire de =
ce type
make/ptlib.mak:42: pwlib/make/common.mak: Aucun fichier ou r=E9pertoire d=
e ce=20
type
make: *** Pas de r=E8gle pour fabriquer la cible `pwlib/make/common.mak'.=
 Arr=EAt.
------------------------------
and the both :  "pwlib/make/unix.mak" , "pwlib/make/common.mak" :  exists=
 !

What can happen ?

I try with The RPM Red-Hat files gnomemeetingn 0.95 , pwlib, openH323 ...=
 :
they need a lot of dependencies ...

Is it possible to update gnomemeeting ? :-)

antoine






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Hi all!

I wrote a few weeks back with a sound conflict problem. I took
everyone's advice and managed to install ALSA on my system. ALSA is now
apparently working, but the sound quality when I try to call my partner
is bad at her end. She says she only hears every second word and the
quality sounds like I'm underwater!

I'm on a cable connection using Gnome 2 on top of Mandrake 9 with a
Soundbaster PCI128 sound card and Logitech Quickcam. My partne is on a
56k modem connection using NetMeeting (with the MS-GSM codec). We have
both used NetMeeting successfully, so her connection seems to be able to
support reasonable video and audio connections.

So, is my problem that:

a) OpenH323 doesn't deal well with low bandwidth? That is, it's not my
problem, really, but a downer. 

b) I don't have ALSA installed correctly? Damien said that ALSA can deal
with the full-duplex problem of the SoundBlaster PCI128, but do I need
to configure any options to do that? Also, although draksound tells me
that I'm using the ALSA sound system, I'm not sure that I'm using the
ALSA devices. GnomeMeeting tells me that my audio player is
dev/sound/dsp, mixer is dev/mixer, audio recorder is dev/sound/dsp, and
recorder mixer is dev/mixer. Does that sound right? 

c) Should I kill ESD? I tried that this morning but the video
disappeared!

d) I'm running GAIM at the same time, but with sound disabled. We use
GAIM so that she can give me her IP address (she has dynamic IP
addressing). Could GAIM be conflicting?

It's a big ask, but I'd like to test my setup with someone on a cable
connection using GnomeMeeting or NetMeeting with MS-GSM enabled, to see
whether the sound is as bad in that case. If you've got some time and a
willingness to help a newbie (new to linux and GM, but not entirely
clueless), please let me know. 

Until anon,

Sean

-- 
E. Sean Rintel
Communication Department
University at Albany, SUNY
Albany, NY, 12222, USA
http://www.albany.edu/~er8430




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On Tuesday 03 December 2002 19:21, antoine wrote:
> Hi,
> I try to update gnomemeeting
> ----------------------------
> 5.2.1. Compile PWlib
>  You have to compile PWlib that way:
> tar xvzf pwlib_x.x.x.tar.gz
> $ export PWLIBDIR=3D<the directory where you extracted pwlib>
> $ cd $PWLIBDIR
> $ make opt
> $ cp -d $PWLIBDIR/lib/*so* /usr/lib
> $ ln -s /usr/lib/libpt_linux_x86_r.so.x.x.x /usr/lib/libpt.so
> ----------------
> 5.2.2. Compile OpenH323
>  You have to compile OpenH323 that way:
> $ tar xvzf openh323_x.x.x.tar.gz
> $ export OPENH323DIR=3D<the directory where you extracted OpenH323>
> $ cd $OPENH323DIR
> $ make opt
> $ cp -d $OPENH323DIR/lib/*so* /usr/lib
> $ ln -s /usr/lib/libh323_linux_x86_r.so.x.x.x /usr/lib/libopenh323.so
> ----------------------
> So I do exactly what is write up and receive this answer
> when I want to compile :
> -----------------
> [root@localhost opt]# cd $PWLIBDIR
> [root@localhost pwlib]# make both
> make/ptlib.mak:41: pwlib/make/unix.mak: Aucun fichier ou r=E9pertoire d=
e ce
> type make/ptlib.mak:42: pwlib/make/common.mak: Aucun fichier ou r=E9per=
toire
> de ce type
> make: *** Pas de r=E8gle pour fabriquer la cible `pwlib/make/common.mak=
'.
> Arr=EAt. ------------------------------
> and the both :  "pwlib/make/unix.mak" , "pwlib/make/common.mak" :  exis=
ts !
>Hello

What are you compiling for? Depending on your distribution, download the=20
needed RPMs from http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3D5&pos=3D0
Download them to your home directory. Move all three RPMs into an empty=20
directory on your desktop. If it doesn't exist, make it (right click on e=
mpty=20
desktop  > "Create new..." > "Directory". Call it -say- RPM. Change your=20
working directory: type  (without the quotation marks) "cd RPM". The prom=
pt=20
will then change accordingly. Type "su" (no quotation marks). You'll be a=
sked=20
for your root password. Type it in. The prompt will change, probably to #=
=2E=20
Type "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" (no quotation marks). All three RPMs will be then=20
installed.
Good luck.
Pablo

> What can happen ?
>
> I try with The RPM Red-Hat files gnomemeetingn 0.95 , pwlib, openH323 .=
=2E. :
> they need a lot of dependencies ...
>
> Is it possible to update gnomemeeting ? :-)
>
> antoine
>
>
>
>
>
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From julien.puydt@netpratique.fr  Tue Dec  3 14:37:56 2002
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Le mar 03/12/2002 à 18:44, E. Sean Rintel a écrit :
> Hi all!
> 
> I wrote a few weeks back with a sound conflict problem. I took
> everyone's advice and managed to install ALSA on my system. ALSA is now
> apparently working, but the sound quality when I try to call my partner
> is bad at her end. She says she only hears every second word and the
> quality sounds like I'm underwater!

This sounds more like bad settings for your bandwith. If you want good
sound, decrease the video quality (either by having less good images, or
fewer).

> I'm on a cable connection using Gnome 2 on top of Mandrake 9 with a
> Soundbaster PCI128 sound card and Logitech Quickcam. My partne is on a
> 56k modem connection using NetMeeting (with the MS-GSM codec). We have
> both used NetMeeting successfully, so her connection seems to be able to
> support reasonable video and audio connections.

56k modem connection => really decrease video quality if you want good
sound.

> So, is my problem that:
> 
> a) OpenH323 doesn't deal well with low bandwidth? That is, it's not my
> problem, really, but a downer. 

Low bandwith needs very good codecs ; you can't use speex with a
netmeeting client, and unless you have money, the other good codecs
aren't available for gnomemeeting.

> b) I don't have ALSA installed correctly? Damien said that ALSA can deal
> with the full-duplex problem of the SoundBlaster PCI128, but do I need
> to configure any options to do that? Also, although draksound tells me
> that I'm using the ALSA sound system, I'm not sure that I'm using the
> ALSA devices. GnomeMeeting tells me that my audio player is
> dev/sound/dsp, mixer is dev/mixer, audio recorder is dev/sound/dsp, and
> recorder mixer is dev/mixer. Does that sound right? 

I don't think so.

> c) Should I kill ESD? I tried that this morning but the video
> disappeared!

I don't see why killing esd would cause video problems...

> d) I'm running GAIM at the same time, but with sound disabled. We use
> GAIM so that she can give me her IP address (she has dynamic IP
> addressing). Could GAIM be conflicting?

I don't think so, unless you're sending very long messages very fast ;
then you may be able to eat your friend's bandwith.
You know, if you both register to ils.seconix.com, you won't have to
send your ip one another...

> It's a big ask, but I'd like to test my setup with someone on a cable
> connection using GnomeMeeting or NetMeeting with MS-GSM enabled, to see
> whether the sound is as bad in that case. If you've got some time and a
> willingness to help a newbie (new to linux and GM, but not entirely
> clueless), please let me know. 

Please, come on irc.gnome.org, channel #gnomemeeting. You may then find
other users looking for testing, or ready to help.

Snark on #gnomemeeting
-- 
PUYDT Julien <julien.puydt@netpratique.fr>


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> What are you compiling for? Depending on your distribution, download th=
e
> needed RPMs from http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3D5&pos=3D0
> Download them to your home directory. Move all three RPMs into an empty
> directory on your desktop. If it doesn't exist, make it (right click on
> empty desktop  > "Create new..." > "Directory". Call it -say- RPM. Chan=
ge
> your working directory: type  (without the quotation marks) "cd RPM". T=
he
> prompt will then change accordingly. Type "su" (no quotation marks). Yo=
u'll
> be asked for your root password. Type it in. The prompt will change,
> probably to #. Type "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" (no quotation marks). All three RP=
Ms
> will be then installed.
> Good luck.
> Pablo
_______________________________________________
Hi,
I made exactly what you wrote up, creating a new directory "gnomeeting"  =
under=20
my home directory :
and I receive this answer below ... :
grrrr .. :-)
antoine
------
[root@localhost gnomeeting]# ls
gnomemeeting-0.85.1-3.i386.rpm  gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386.rpm =20
pwlib-1.3.11-1.i386.rpm
gnomemeeting-0.93.1-4.src.rpm   openh323-1.9.10-4.i386.rpm
[root@localhost gnomeeting]# rpm -Uvh *.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
        GConf2 >=3D 1.2.0 is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libart_lgpl_2.so.2   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libbonobo-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libbonobo-activation.so.4   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libbonoboui-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgconf-2.so.4   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgnome-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgnomecanvas-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgnomeui-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgnomevfs-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        liblinc.so.1   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libORBit-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libstdc++.so.5   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
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        pwlib =3D 1.2.12 is needed by pwlib-devel-1.2.12-3
        openh323 =3D 1.8.0 is needed by openh323-devel-1.8.0-3
------------------------


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You have to upgrade those libs, or install a newer version of your
distribution which seems to be a bit outdated.


Le mer 04/12/2002 à 11:54, antoine a écrit :
> > What are you compiling for? Depending on your distribution, download the
> > needed RPMs from http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=5&pos=0
> > Download them to your home directory. Move all three RPMs into an empty
> > directory on your desktop. If it doesn't exist, make it (right click on
> > empty desktop  > "Create new..." > "Directory". Call it -say- RPM. Change
> > your working directory: type  (without the quotation marks) "cd RPM". The
> > prompt will then change accordingly. Type "su" (no quotation marks). You'll
> > be asked for your root password. Type it in. The prompt will change,
> > probably to #. Type "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" (no quotation marks). All three RPMs
> > will be then installed.
> > Good luck.
> > Pablo
> _______________________________________________
> Hi,
> I made exactly what you wrote up, creating a new directory "gnomeeting"  under 
> my home directory :
> and I receive this answer below ... :
> grrrr .. :-)
> antoine
> ------
> [root@localhost gnomeeting]# ls
> gnomemeeting-0.85.1-3.i386.rpm  gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386.rpm  
> pwlib-1.3.11-1.i386.rpm
> gnomemeeting-0.93.1-4.src.rpm   openh323-1.9.10-4.i386.rpm
> [root@localhost gnomeeting]# rpm -Uvh *.rpm
> error: failed dependencies:
>         GConf2 >= 1.2.0 is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libart_lgpl_2.so.2   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libbonobo-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libbonobo-activation.so.4   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libbonoboui-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgconf-2.so.4   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnome-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnomecanvas-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnomeui-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnomevfs-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         liblinc.so.1   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libORBit-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libstdc++.so.5   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libstdc++.so.5   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libstdc++.so.5   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         pwlib = 1.2.12 is needed by pwlib-devel-1.2.12-3
>         openh323 = 1.8.0 is needed by openh323-devel-1.8.0-3
> ------------------------
> 
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Is Gnome2 installed in your system? GnomeMeeting 0.9x requires Gnome 2=20
libraries.
On Wednesday 04 December 2002 11:54, antoine wrote:
> > What are you compiling for? Depending on your distribution, download =
the
> > needed RPMs from http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3D5&pos=3D=
0
> > Download them to your home directory. Move all three RPMs into an emp=
ty
> > directory on your desktop. If it doesn't exist, make it (right click =
on
> > empty desktop  > "Create new..." > "Directory". Call it -say- RPM. Ch=
ange
> > your working directory: type  (without the quotation marks) "cd RPM".=
 The
> > prompt will then change accordingly. Type "su" (no quotation marks).
> > You'll be asked for your root password. Type it in. The prompt will
> > change, probably to #. Type "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" (no quotation marks). Al=
l
> > three RPMs will be then installed.
> > Good luck.
> > Pablo
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hi,
> I made exactly what you wrote up, creating a new directory "gnomeeting"=
=20
> under my home directory :
> and I receive this answer below ... :
> grrrr .. :-)
> antoine
> ------
> [root@localhost gnomeeting]# ls
> gnomemeeting-0.85.1-3.i386.rpm  gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386.rpm
> pwlib-1.3.11-1.i386.rpm
> gnomemeeting-0.93.1-4.src.rpm   openh323-1.9.10-4.i386.rpm
> [root@localhost gnomeeting]# rpm -Uvh *.rpm
> error: failed dependencies:
>         GConf2 >=3D 1.2.0 is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libart_lgpl_2.so.2   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libbonobo-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libbonobo-activation.so.4   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libbonoboui-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgconf-2.so.4   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnome-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnomecanvas-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnomeui-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnomevfs-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         liblinc.so.1   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libORBit-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libstdc++.so.5   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-=
3
>         libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libstdc++.so.5   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libstdc++.so.5   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         pwlib =3D 1.2.12 is needed by pwlib-devel-1.2.12-3
>         openh323 =3D 1.8.0 is needed by openh323-devel-1.8.0-3
> ------------------------
>
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Hi all,


A new mailing list has been created for dicussion related to the
development of GnomeMeeting (new features, bugs, patches, fixes,
enhancements, documentation, translations,...). All people wanting to
contribute to development of GnomeMeeting are welcome to subscribe to
this new mailing list at :
http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-devel-list

=> if you are interested to help in the development of GnomeMeeting in a
way or another, please subscribe :)

The current mailing list will of course continue to exist for user
problems, installation problems, and generic questions not related to
the development of GnomeMeeting but to its usage.

-- 
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isplitting the list and putting most of the programming/debugging on 
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Hi,

how do I switch on the ability to dock gnomemeeting into the taskbar under
KDE 3.0.3? In 0.85 there used to be a tick I could make in preferences I
think. If I click "start hidden" gnomemeeting doesn't show up anywhere at
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I compiled gnomemeeting 0.94.1 from scratch under Redhat 7.3, i.e.
non-gnome2.

Robert


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Hi !

Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2002 13:42 schrieb Robert Schmidt:

> how do I switch on the ability to dock gnomemeeting into the taskbar un=
der
> KDE 3.0.3? In 0.85 there used to be a tick I could make in preferences =
I
> think. If I click "start hidden" gnomemeeting doesn't show up anywhere =
at
> all.

The gnomemeeting docklet doesn't work in kde 3.0.x because it's a new typ=
e of=20
docklet. It will work in kde 3.1 (which was to be released tomorrow, but =
had=20
to be delayed).

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Hi everybody.

I have recently installed FreeBSD 4.7 on my PC with
MSI 6330 using integrated sound via VT82C686B.
I add "device pcm" in my kernel and the sound work
very well MP3,video etc...

The problem is that when i use Gnomemeeting, I can
hear my freind but it seems that there is nothing sent
on the internet when i'm talking.

Gnomemeeting gives me only this devices : /dev/dsp0.3
(which exist in the /dev

It's not a firewall probleme because i don't use it
(crazy boy !)

Could someone give me help about this ?


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Have you tried to record to make sure that your microphone works
correctly?
The fact that other applications work proves that playback s working,
but that doesn't prove that :
- your audio driver is able to do full-duplex (playing and recording at
the same time)
- your microphone is working and volumes are ok.

Hope it helps,


Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 15:58, LEZIN Lo a écrit :
> Hi everybody.
> 
> I have recently installed FreeBSD 4.7 on my PC with
> MSI 6330 using integrated sound via VT82C686B.
> I add "device pcm" in my kernel and the sound work
> very well MP3,video etc...
> 
> The problem is that when i use Gnomemeeting, I can
> hear my freind but it seems that there is nothing sent
> on the internet when i'm talking.
> 
> Gnomemeeting gives me only this devices : /dev/dsp0.3
> (which exist in the /dev
> 
> It's not a firewall probleme because i don't use it
> (crazy boy !)
> 
> Could someone give me help about this ?
> 
> 
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Damien Sandras wrote:

>Have you tried to record to make sure that your microphone works
>correctly?
>The fact that other applications work proves that playback s working,
>but that doesn't prove that :
>- your audio driver is able to do full-duplex (playing and recording at
>the same time)
>- your microphone is working and volumes are ok.
>
>Hope it helps,
>  
>

Thanks a lot for your help.

But in fact it's very strange :

cat /dev/sndstat gives me :

pcm0: <VIA VT82C686A> at io 0xdc00 irq 11 (1p/1r/0v channels duplex)

So can i think that this means that sound card is full duplex ?

I don't know how to test record and listen a the same time :-( How can i 
test it ?
In fact i  tested it with 'dd' but the sound had a low level and was 
absolutely disgusting.

I have put the mixer to 100:100 (with wmix i'm using windowmaker with no 
GNOME installed.Just the things necessary for gnomemeeting to work. I 
have used the 'ports' methode) for all but nothing more happens.




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Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 16:23, LEZIN Lo a écrit :

> 
> Thanks a lot for your help.
> 
> But in fact it's very strange :
> 
> cat /dev/sndstat gives me :
> 
> pcm0: <VIA VT82C686A> at io 0xdc00 irq 11 (1p/1r/0v channels duplex)
> 
> So can i think that this means that sound card is full duplex ?

Yes, but that doesn't mean that the driver is full-duplex.

> 
> I don't know how to test record and listen a the same time :-( How can i 
> test it ?

First try to record with rec -d /dev/dsp myfile.wav
of course, change /dev/dsp to your device.

Then, something like cat /dev/dsp > /dev/dsp should echo everything of
what you say.

> In fact i  tested it with 'dd' but the sound had a low level and was 
> absolutely disgusting.
> 

That is bad news. Under Linux, ALSA users have a switch to enable the
Mic Boost and have a better recording volume. I don't know if ALSA
exists for FreeBSD but I doubt so.

> I have put the mixer to 100:100 (with wmix i'm using windowmaker with no 
> GNOME installed.Just the things necessary for gnomemeeting to work. I 
> have used the 'ports' methode) for all but nothing more happens.
> 

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>
>
>Yes, but that doesn't mean that the driver is full-duplex.
>  
>
HOHO ! so how to know if it is full duplex?

>First try to record with rec -d /dev/dsp myfile.wav
>of course, change /dev/dsp to your device.
>  
>
Sorry what is the package which contains "rec" ?

>Then, something like cat /dev/dsp > /dev/dsp should echo everything of
>what you say.
>  
>
I tried it but nothing happens ...Does it means that it's not full-duplex ?
So where can i find a full duplex drivers for it ? And how can i install 
it if it exist ?

Thanks you for support


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Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 16:52, LEZIN Lo a écrit :
> >


> HOHO ! so how to know if it is full duplex?
> 

Testing or driver doc should tell.

> >
> Sorry what is the package which contains "rec" ?
> 

Sox on linux.

> I tried it but nothing happens ...Does it means that it's not full-duplex ?


Most probably :(

> So where can i find a full duplex drivers for it ? And how can i install 
> it if it exist ?

I don't know for FreeBSD. In that case, for linux, the solution is to
install ALSA from www.alsa-project.org .
Another solution is to buy a webcam with an internal microphone (like
Philips ToUCam Pro) and use the soundcard only for playback.

> 
> Thanks you for support

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> From: Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
> Sender: gnomemeeting-list-admin@gnome.org
> Date: 05 Dec 2002 16:35:08 +0100
> 
> Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 16:23, LEZIN Lo a écrit :
> 
> > 
> > Thanks a lot for your help.
> > 
> > But in fact it's very strange :
> > 
> > cat /dev/sndstat gives me :
> > 
> > pcm0: <VIA VT82C686A> at io 0xdc00 irq 11 (1p/1r/0v channels duplex)
> > 
> > So can i think that this means that sound card is full duplex ?
> 
> Yes, but that doesn't mean that the driver is full-duplex.

I have exactly the same problem with FreeBSD 4.7. I see it on three
different systems all running with embedded Intel ICH sound
devices. All are duplex and the drivers claim to be full-duplex. 

> > I don't know how to test record and listen a the same time :-( How can i 
> > test it ?
> 
> First try to record with rec -d /dev/dsp myfile.wav
> of course, change /dev/dsp to your device.

This works fine (as far as I can tell). But when I try to paly back,
the sound is badly garbled! Does what is sometimes called
"motor-boating" and plays back VERY slowly in tenth second (time is an
estimate/guess) intervals, although it is just barely recognizable.

> Then, something like cat /dev/dsp > /dev/dsp should echo everything of
> what you say.

It does, but, like the output of rec(1), it plays back very slowly
like it is playing a tenth second of data, pausing a tenth second and
then playing another tenth second of data. It is just recognizable.

On the other hand, if I use the Gnome Sound Recorder, I can record and
playback just fine. If I play back the .wav file I generated, it
sounds just like when I cat'ed it to /dev/dsp. And, If I play back a
file recored by the Gnome Sound recorder, I hear horrible squawking,
not at all like what I get going the other way.

Clearly there is some sound problem here, but I am very confused by
the conflicting results of my tests. And, when I try to send audio
with GnomeMeeting, I get absolutely no sound, garbled or otherwise.

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
E-mail: oberman@es.net			Phone: +1 510 486-8634

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I have no clue about FreeBSD, but perhaps Roger will answer.


Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 17:18, Kevin Oberman a écrit :
> > From: Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
> > Sender: gnomemeeting-list-admin@gnome.org
> > Date: 05 Dec 2002 16:35:08 +0100
> > 
> > Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 16:23, LEZIN Lo a écrit :
> > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks a lot for your help.
> > > 
> > > But in fact it's very strange :
> > > 
> > > cat /dev/sndstat gives me :
> > > 
> > > pcm0: <VIA VT82C686A> at io 0xdc00 irq 11 (1p/1r/0v channels duplex)
> > > 
> > > So can i think that this means that sound card is full duplex ?
> > 
> > Yes, but that doesn't mean that the driver is full-duplex.
> 
> I have exactly the same problem with FreeBSD 4.7. I see it on three
> different systems all running with embedded Intel ICH sound
> devices. All are duplex and the drivers claim to be full-duplex. 
> 
> > > I don't know how to test record and listen a the same time :-( How can i 
> > > test it ?
> > 
> > First try to record with rec -d /dev/dsp myfile.wav
> > of course, change /dev/dsp to your device.
> 
> This works fine (as far as I can tell). But when I try to paly back,
> the sound is badly garbled! Does what is sometimes called
> "motor-boating" and plays back VERY slowly in tenth second (time is an
> estimate/guess) intervals, although it is just barely recognizable.
> 
> > Then, something like cat /dev/dsp > /dev/dsp should echo everything of
> > what you say.
> 
> It does, but, like the output of rec(1), it plays back very slowly
> like it is playing a tenth second of data, pausing a tenth second and
> then playing another tenth second of data. It is just recognizable.
> 
> On the other hand, if I use the Gnome Sound Recorder, I can record and
> playback just fine. If I play back the .wav file I generated, it
> sounds just like when I cat'ed it to /dev/dsp. And, If I play back a
> file recored by the Gnome Sound recorder, I hear horrible squawking,
> not at all like what I get going the other way.
> 
> Clearly there is some sound problem here, but I am very confused by
> the conflicting results of my tests. And, when I try to send audio
> with GnomeMeeting, I get absolutely no sound, garbled or otherwise.
> 
> R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
> Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
> Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
> E-mail: oberman@es.net			Phone: +1 510 486-8634
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Hi,

With a MDK 9.0 and gnomemeeting  0.95 version,
Gnome 2.0, its working ok.
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I have tested rec -d /dev/dsp while player a mp3 whith xmms... and a get 
an horrible destroyed sound while i record during listening. I mean 
"Sting was not the same as always ..." ;-)

So i think that full-duplex is not implemented in the kernel's default 
drivers.

So does anyone know someting about a full-duplex driver for Freebsd on 
VT82C686C  (or for any other ...to help us)

Or did someone tested ALSA under FreeBSD (if it's possible... ;-)).



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Le Jeudi 5 D=C3=A9cembre 2002 18:46, antoine a =C3=A9crit :
Tu as bien du savoir faire!
Moi cela ne marche pas du tout.
Je suis aussi sous MDK 9, en ADSL, ens standalone (pas de reseau ni firew=
all),
gnome icu marche bien, sendmail, aussi et tout le reste aussi.
Un telnet ils.seconix.com m 389 repond que la connection se fait,=20
Gomemeeting ne repond pas du tout.
je me pose des questions sans r=C3=A9ponse, quelle est ta config logiciel=
le?=20

> Hi,
>
> With a MDK 9.0 and gnomemeeting  0.95 version,
> Gnome 2.0, its working ok.
> antoine
>
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Hi,

This is an english-speaking mailing list, not a french speaking mailing
list. Moreover, when you have a problem, there are 2 things to do:
- read the FAQ
- if it doesn't work, mail the mailing list in english with a
description of the problem. "GnomeMeeting doesn't answer" (I translated)
doesn't mean anything to me. There are many people on ILS who do not
answer calls, like me for example.

Thanks to be more precise when asking questions, and to use the language
of the mailing list.


Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 21:13, Patrick a écrit :
> Le Jeudi 5 Décembre 2002 18:46, antoine a écrit :
> Tu as bien du savoir faire!
> Moi cela ne marche pas du tout.
> Je suis aussi sous MDK 9, en ADSL, ens standalone (pas de reseau ni firewall),
> gnome icu marche bien, sendmail, aussi et tout le reste aussi.
> Un telnet ils.seconix.com m 389 repond que la connection se fait, 
> Gomemeeting ne repond pas du tout.
> je me pose des questions sans réponse, quelle est ta config logicielle? 

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What possibilities do I have to talk to someone on GM, and at the same time play low music or at least get sound notifications occasionally?
I have learned that GM can't be used with a esd, for a reason I have forgotten. But are there any alternatives? Or will it be possible some other way in the future?
I was told something about soundcards with two dsp (I think that's correct) but I don't have such a card. No way to do this on software level?

Hakon




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Sorry if this is slightly off-topic ...

I'm trying to set up my creative webcam (ct6840) on freebsd 4.7-RELEASE. It 
seems to be working ok - apps like 'vid' can take a snap.

Unfortunately gnomemeeting only lets me choose between /dev/bktr and 
/dev/meteor for the camera device, and my cam identifies itself as ugen0 
(just the generic usb device). Looking at the man pages for bktr and meteor, 
neither of these would seem suitable.

The best I could think of was to try making /dev/bktr0 a symbolic link to 
/dev/ugen0, but that didn't work.

Looking through google, it seems a few other people have had this problem 
too. Unfortunately noone seemed to have an answer.

Cheers in advance

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Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 19:14, Hakon G a écrit :
> What possibilities do I have to talk to someone on GM, and at the same time play low music or at least get sound notifications occasionally?

No way, and it would be very unpolite ;-)

> I have learned that GM can't be used with a esd, for a reason I have forgotten. But are there any alternatives? Or will it be possible some other way in the future?
> I was told something about soundcards with two dsp (I think that's correct) but I don't have such a card. No way to do this on software level?
> 

It will work when someone will implement dynamic output to esd and
artsdsp in pwlib, or when Gnome and KDE will finally choose a common
sound daemon.


> Hakon

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Hi Pete

> Unfortunately gnomemeeting only lets me choose between /dev/bktr and
> /dev/meteor for the camera device

That is because these are the only devices you can use. :-(

FreeBSD does not have device drivers for any USB cameras and so
GnomeMeeting cannot grab live video from them.

The 'vid' program works because it has chunks of the linux ov511 driver
embedded in.

So right now, there is no way to do anything with GnomeMeetin and USB
cameras.

Roger



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Hi there

Can you try someting for me on your FreeBSD box.

1) built the ohphone application from the Ports tree
(or compile from source if you want)

2) make a call from ohphone with the -t option
This enables tracing.
eg ohphone -n -t remote.server.name


The trace lots are printed on screen. See if there is a line which says
 codec.cxx (nnn) Codec  Read truncated frame of raw data. Wanted xxx and got
yyy

If you see this error message (like I do) then it is showing up a bug in the
audio drivers.
If you do get this, I can chat to Cameron and Orion (the sound driver
developers)#
and try and get a fix.
I've also got a fix for the pwlib library which works around this kernel
bug.

Roger
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gnomemeeting --debug=1 
should have the same effect...



Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 22:19, Roger Hardiman a écrit :
> Hi there
> 
> Can you try someting for me on your FreeBSD box.
> 
> 1) built the ohphone application from the Ports tree
> (or compile from source if you want)
> 
> 2) make a call from ohphone with the -t option
> This enables tracing.
> eg ohphone -n -t remote.server.name
> 
> 
> The trace lots are printed on screen. See if there is a line which says
>  codec.cxx (nnn) Codec  Read truncated frame of raw data. Wanted xxx and got
> yyy
> 
> If you see this error message (like I do) then it is showing up a bug in the
> audio drivers.
> If you do get this, I can chat to Cameron and Orion (the sound driver
> developers)#
> and try and get a fix.
> I've also got a fix for the pwlib library which works around this kernel
> bug.
> 
> Roger
> --
> Roger Hardiman
> roger@freebsd.org
> FreeBSD, OpenH323 and GnomeMeeting projects.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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Le Jeudi 5 D=E9cembre 2002 21:23, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
Vous m'en voyez fort marri !
C'est bien la premi=E8re fois que ma langue maternelle m'exposait =E0 un =
reproche!=20
Je refuse de parler l'anglais (je ne connais que le latin et le grec=20
ancien!...)
J'ai l'honneur de vous saluer.

Patrick Castero ar Haliguen
Bretagne, France=20

(Si c'est cela l'europe...)

> Hi,
>
> This is an english-speaking mailing list, not a french speaking mailing
> list. Moreover, when you have a problem, there are 2 things to do:
> - read the FAQ
> - if it doesn't work, mail the mailing list in english with a
> description of the problem. "GnomeMeeting doesn't answer" (I translated=
)
> doesn't mean anything to me. There are many people on ILS who do not
> answer calls, like me for example.
>
> Thanks to be more precise when asking questions, and to use the languag=
e
> of the mailing list.
>
> Le jeu 05/12/2002 =E0 21:13, Patrick a =E9crit :
> > Le Jeudi 5 D=E9cembre 2002 18:46, antoine a =E9crit :
> > Tu as bien du savoir faire!
> > Moi cela ne marche pas du tout.
> > Je suis aussi sous MDK 9, en ADSL, ens standalone (pas de reseau ni
> > firewall), gnome icu marche bien, sendmail, aussi et tout le reste au=
ssi.
> > Un telnet ils.seconix.com m 389 repond que la connection se fait,
> > Gomemeeting ne repond pas du tout.
> > je me pose des questions sans r=E9ponse, quelle est ta config logicie=
lle?


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Le Jeudi 5 D=C3=A9cembre 2002 20:13, Patrick a =C3=A9crit :
> Le Jeudi 5 D=C3=A9cembre 2002 18:46, antoine a =C3=A9crit :
> Tu as bien du savoir faire!
> Moi cela ne marche pas du tout.
> Je suis aussi sous MDK 9, en ADSL, ens standalone (pas de reseau ni
> firewall), gnome icu marche bien, sendmail, aussi et tout le reste auss=
i.
> Un telnet ils.seconix.com m 389 repond que la connection se fait,
> Gomemeeting ne repond pas du tout.
> je me pose des questions sans r=C3=A9ponse, quelle est ta config logici=
elle?
-----------------------------------
>> Hi,
> > > With a MDK 9.0 and gnomemeeting  0.95 version,
> > Gnome 2.0, its working ok.
> > antoine
--------------------------
STRANGE !
it works pretty good with MDK 9.0 and GM 0.95 ... with no particular=20
configuration to do ...
tell us what are your preferences in the config menu of GM ?
bye
antoine

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Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 21:49, Patrick a écrit :
> Le Jeudi 5 Décembre 2002 21:23, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> Vous m'en voyez fort marri !
> C'est bien la première fois que ma langue maternelle m'exposait à un reproche! 
> Je refuse de parler l'anglais (je ne connais que le latin et le grec 
> ancien!...)
> J'ai l'honneur de vous saluer.
> 
> Patrick Castero ar Haliguen
> Bretagne, France 
> 
> (Si c'est cela l'europe...)

Europe is respecting others, respecting others means trying to speak in
their language and not considering France as the center of the world.
You are sending a mail in french to a mailing list where more than 98%
of the subscribers won't understand anything.
If you are "refusing" to speak english, then don't mail.


-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2002 21:49 schrieb Patrick:
> Le Jeudi 5 D=E9cembre 2002 21:23, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> Vous m'en voyez fort marri !
> C'est bien la premi=E8re fois que ma langue maternelle m'exposait =E0 u=
n
> reproche! Je refuse de parler l'anglais (je ne connais que le latin et =
le
> grec ancien!...)
> J'ai l'honneur de vous saluer.
>
> Patrick Castero ar Haliguen
> Bretagne, France
>
> (Si c'est cela l'europe...)

Ich verstehe =FCberhaupt nicht, worum es hier geht...

Matti

P.S. SCNR ;)

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Le Jeudi 5 D=E9cembre 2002 20:49, Patrick a =E9crit :
> Le Jeudi 5 D=E9cembre 2002 21:23, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> Vous m'en voyez fort marri !
> C'est bien la premi=E8re fois que ma langue maternelle m'exposait =E0 u=
n
> reproche! Je refuse de parler l'anglais (je ne connais que le latin et =
le
> grec ancien!...)
> J'ai l'honneur de vous saluer.
> Patrick Castero ar Haliguen
> Bretagne, France
> (Si c'est cela l'europe...)
>Patrick <castero@free.fr>
------------------
> (je ne connais que le latin et le > grec ancien!...)
and the french  too ... I see.
baaah, to speak english is not a shame ... there are a lot of common poin=
ts=20
between la Bretagne de France and Great Britain , that belongs to Europe =
=2E..
Why do you refuse to speak the living Shakespeare's language ?
latin and old greek are "dead" languages !
antoine

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Hejsa allesammen

Jeg synes I alle er helt forkerte på den! Hverken engelsk eller fransk
er særligt smukke sprog, og jeg nægter derfor at tale eller skrive på
disse sprog.

Derfor vil jeg opfordre verdens befolkning til at udelukkende tale
dansk, og hvis ikke... ja, så må I sgu sejle i jeres egen sø!

O.k. islandsk, norsk og tildels svensk kan vel accepteres :)

Farvel!

-- 
Kenneth Rohde Christiansen <kenneth@gnu.org>

(Btw, please consider all this as a big joke)


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A question:

i am using gnomemeeting, but my camera chipset is Divio NW801, i can't find its driver for linux.
Does Anybody keep the driver?  please give me one ,thank you!

and i want to change a camera which has the linux driver , but i don't know which one can have this , if you are using, please tell me the information so i can go to buy it, thanks!
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On Fri, 06 Dec 2002 09:14:01 +0800
truename <faithdongmei@sina.com> wrote:

> A question:
> 
> i am using gnomemeeting, but my camera chipset is Divio NW801, i can't
> find its driver for linux. Does Anybody keep the driver?  please give
> me one ,thank you!

Google is Your friend :-) http://nw802.sourceforge.net/

> and i want to change a camera which has the linux driver , but i don't
> know which one can have this , if you are using, please tell me the
> information so i can go to buy it,
> thanks!

I recomend You philips webcams which are great supported under linux
:-)) More info is avaible at: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/

				Artur

-- 
Zawsze kiedy jest problem, jest jakie¶ rozwi±zanie;
 zatem je¶li nie ma rozwi±zania, nie ma problemu.

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Hi all:
    I am using gnomemeeting under RH7.2. The video chip in my USB webcam is Divio NW802. 
    I downloadded the sourcecode of its driver from  sourceforge.com. The compilation was OK and the modules were inserted successfully. GM also has no problem to find the dev and open it. But the problem is that there is nothing grabbed. Only GM logo's on the screen.
    I changed the image format and compiled again but this won't help either.
    I am really mad about this. Could anyone help? Any advice is welcome. 

Thanks in advance                                
                                                Forest



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Le ven 06/12/2002 à 02:31, Saint Forest a écrit :
> Hi all:
>     I am using gnomemeeting under RH7.2. The video chip in my USB webcam is Divio NW802. 
>     I downloadded the sourcecode of its driver from  sourceforge.com. The compilation was OK and the modules were inserted successfully. GM also has no problem to find the dev and open it. But the problem is that there is nothing grabbed. Only GM logo's on the screen.
>     I changed the image format and compiled again but this won't help either.
>     I am really mad about this. Could anyone help? Any advice is welcome. 
> 
> Thanks in advance                                

We could perhaps give a hint if you give the error message. Without
error message it is hard to help·

More generally, you can read this:
http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3&pos=0#AEN291


Most probably that your webcam driver doesn't support the video format
and colors required by gnomemeeting.
-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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This is probably a stupid question but comes from someone that knows 
little about Linux
but wants to know a little more ...

The gnomemeeting-latest and gnomemeeting-2002-12-... files under 
http://www.gnomemeeting.org/admin/downloads/latest/snapshots/ don't have 
the
configure file .How are they installed?

Tank you .

J.Pedro


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I just installed Gnomemeeting on SuSE 8.1 - It seems to connect to directory, 
but I can't see any listings of other people - it just says I have to 
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Le ven 06/12/2002 à 01:28, Rob Tow a écrit :
> I just installed Gnomemeeting on SuSE 8.1 - It seems to connect to directory, 
> but I can't see any listings of other people - it just says I have to 
> register - but I thought the set-up tool registered me?
> 

You have to fill in your details in the configuration assistant when
GnomeMeeting starts.

Another way to do it is to fill in your Details in Personal Data in the
preferences, then to go in the Directories section and to "Enable
Registering" below the text entry where ils.seconix.com is displayed.

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Hello,

if you are new to Linux, perhaps it is not a good idea to try to compile
gnomemeeting from CVS, you will also need to take latest stable versions
of openh323 and pwlib on openh323.org/bin

If you still want to do it, autogen.sh behaves exactly the same as
configure, just run it like you would run configure.

Le ven 06/12/2002 à 01:07, João Pedro a écrit :
> This is probably a stupid question but comes from someone that knows 
> little about Linux
> but wants to know a little more ...
> 
> The gnomemeeting-latest and gnomemeeting-2002-12-... files under 
> http://www.gnomemeeting.org/admin/downloads/latest/snapshots/ don't have 
> the
> configure file .How are they installed?
> 
> Tank you .
> 
> J.Pedro
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
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Hi,
   I'm using gm with a Swyx gatekeeper/gateway software, and a quicknet PCI 
internet linejack. 
Local calls to swyxware clients all have very good quality and a medium (1/2 
second) delay. But when I call someone outside (through the gateway) the 
incoming sound (i.e. that from outside to GM) sounds fine, but the outgoing 
(from GM to outside).
How can i check which codecs are used ? I did try to disable all low bandwith 
codecs, but same result.
Also, i don't think that the gateway is the problem, because i have a Siemens 
TA1100 right here, which is basicly GM+quicknet in hardware, a POTS to VoIP 
converter, which only speeks H.323 and works perfectly fine with swxy.

Any ideas ?

TIA,
    Michael
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You can check what codec is used in the "General History".
The best to use when you have a Quicknet card is G.723.1.


Le ven 06/12/2002 à 09:36, Michael Glauche a écrit :

> Hi,
>    I'm using gm with a Swyx gatekeeper/gateway software, and a quicknet PCI 
> internet linejack. 
> Local calls to swyxware clients all have very good quality and a medium (1/2 
> second) delay. But when I call someone outside (through the gateway) the 
> incoming sound (i.e. that from outside to GM) sounds fine, but the outgoing 
> (from GM to outside).
> How can i check which codecs are used ? I did try to disable all low bandwith 
> codecs, but same result.
> Also, i don't think that the gateway is the problem, because i have a Siemens 
> TA1100 right here, which is basicly GM+quicknet in hardware, a POTS to VoIP 
> converter, which only speeks H.323 and works perfectly fine with swxy.
> 
> Any ideas ?
> 

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Am Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 10:54 schrieb Damien Sandras:
> You can check what codec is used in the "General History".
> The best to use when you have a Quicknet card is G.723.1.
>

11:13:30 Calling 09200xxx
11:13:31 Attaching lid hardware to codec
11:13:31 Started New Logical Channel...
11:13:31 Receiving G.723.1{hw}
11:13:31 Attaching lid hardware to codec
11:13:31 Started New Logical Channel...
11:13:31 Sending G.723.1{hw}
11:13:31 Disabled silence detection for G.723.1{hw}
11:13:46 Fast start enabled
11:13:46 H.245 Tunnelling disabled
11:13:46 Connected with 09200415  using Swyx IpPbxSrv	4.01 
11:14:01 Remote party has cleared the call
11:14:01 Call duration: 00:00:15


so, i'm using G.723.1, but the sending qualtiy is still very bad. they say the 
sound is hacked into chucks .., no constant sending. Silence detection is 
disabled. 
Is there any way to regulate volume on the quicknet device ? I allways hear 
the remote party way too loud ...

regards,
        Michael

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Hello,

I run SuSE 8 with ALSA v0.9.0rc3 installed. Soundcard is a via 686. Recog=
nized=20
audio devices are 0: VIA82C686A (DUPLEX) and 1:USB Audio; recognized mixe=
rs=20
are 0: ICEnsemble ICE1232 and 1:USB Mixer.=20

I've succesfully upgraded to Gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3. Video is perfect. Whe=
n=20
answering an incoming call, I am able to get incoming sound only. When tr=
ying=20
to call someone at ils.seconix.com, I get the following error message:
"Could not open audio channel for audio transmission (soundcard busy?)=20
Disabling audio transmission."  I use a Philips ToUCam: devices are set t=
o:
Audio Player: /dev/dsp0
Player Mixer: /dev/mixer0
Audio Recorder: /dev/dsp1
Recorder Mixer: /dev/mixer1
Doing cat /dev/dsp1 > /dev/dsp0 works flawlessly.
I use KDE. aRts is not enabled, and snd-mixer-oss, snd-pcm-oss and audio=20
modules are already installed.
When launching GM, I get the following modprobe messages:

Dec  5 23:02:07 linux modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-=
3
Dec  5 23:02:07 linux modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module=20
sound-service-3-3
Dec  5 23:08:05 linux kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout

When I received these messages, I'd already applied the fix that SuSE's=20
Support Database provides for the timeout problem.=20
Any ideas? Thanks for your help.

Pablo Ortuzar



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Le ven 06/12/2002 à 11:16, Michael Glauche a écrit :
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
> 

> 
> so, i'm using G.723.1, but the sending qualtiy is still very bad. they say the 
> sound is hacked into chucks .., no constant sending. Silence detection is 
> disabled. 


Do they have a good jitter buffer?

> Is there any way to regulate volume on the quicknet device ? I allways hear 
> the remote party way too loud ...
> 

Perhaps is it a volume problem in that case, I have not implemented a
way yet to change the volume. It will be done soon :)

> regards,
>         Michael

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What module are you using for the ToUCam microphone?
snd-usb-audio?

If it is the case, unload it and use the standard audio kernel module
instead (modprobe 'audio').


Le ven 06/12/2002 à 11:39, Pablo Ortúzar a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> I run SuSE 8 with ALSA v0.9.0rc3 installed. Soundcard is a via 686. Recognized 
> audio devices are 0: VIA82C686A (DUPLEX) and 1:USB Audio; recognized mixers 
> are 0: ICEnsemble ICE1232 and 1:USB Mixer. 
> 
> I've succesfully upgraded to Gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3. Video is perfect. When 
> answering an incoming call, I am able to get incoming sound only. When trying 
> to call someone at ils.seconix.com, I get the following error message:
> "Could not open audio channel for audio transmission (soundcard busy?) 
> Disabling audio transmission."  I use a Philips ToUCam: devices are set to:
> Audio Player: /dev/dsp0
> Player Mixer: /dev/mixer0
> Audio Recorder: /dev/dsp1
> Recorder Mixer: /dev/mixer1
> Doing cat /dev/dsp1 > /dev/dsp0 works flawlessly.
> I use KDE. aRts is not enabled, and snd-mixer-oss, snd-pcm-oss and audio 
> modules are already installed.
> When launching GM, I get the following modprobe messages:
> 
> Dec  5 23:02:07 linux modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-3
> Dec  5 23:02:07 linux modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module 
> sound-service-3-3
> Dec  5 23:08:05 linux kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
> 
> When I received these messages, I'd already applied the fix that SuSE's 
> Support Database provides for the timeout problem. 
> Any ideas? Thanks for your help.
> 
> Pablo Ortuzar
> 
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Am Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 11:57 schrieb Damien Sandras:
> Le ven 06/12/2002 =E0 11:16, Michael Glauche a =E9crit :
> >
> > so, i'm using G.723.1, but the sending qualtiy is still very bad. they
> > say the sound is hacked into chucks .., no constant sending. Silence
> > detection is disabled.
>
> Do they have a good jitter buffer?

I guess so, as all other clients (even the old TA1100 i did mention b4) wor=
k=20
very well ..
GM's jitter buffer is set to :
minimal: 20
maximal: 500

GSM Frames/Packet: 5
G.711 Frames/Packet: 30

Any way i could get more info about this ? tcpdump ?

Also, this happens in local net, with nearly no traffic, everything switche=
d,=20
ping time to the gateway 0,3 ms ...=20

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Le ven 06/12/2002 à 12:02, Michael Glauche a écrit :

> I guess so, as all other clients (even the old TA1100 i did mention b4) work 
> very well ..
> GM's jitter buffer is set to :
> minimal: 20
> maximal: 500
> 
> GSM Frames/Packet: 5
> G.711 Frames/Packet: 30
> 
> Any way i could get more info about this ? tcpdump ?
> 

I don't think it would help. Can you try with ohphone to see if it is
GnomeMeeting specific or OpenH323 specific?

> Also, this happens in local net, with nearly no traffic, everything switched, 
> ping time to the gateway 0,3 ms ... 
> 

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Other info you could provide is:
- is the sound quality bad too when you are not using the gateway and
directly connecting to another client? If the sound quality is bad only
when you are using the gateway, then it must be due to an
incompatibility of the gateway with GM/OpenH323. In that case I could
ask for advice to Equivalence.

- are you sure it is not simply a question of recording volume?


> 
> I don't think it would help. Can you try with ohphone to see if it is
> GnomeMeeting specific or OpenH323 specific?
>  
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Am Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 14:35 schrieb Damien Sandras:
> Other info you could provide is:
> - is the sound quality bad too when you are not using the gateway and
> directly connecting to another client? If the sound quality is bad only
> when you are using the gateway, then it must be due to an
> incompatibility of the gateway with GM/OpenH323. In that case I could
> ask for advice to Equivalence.

did wrote so in original email :P gm to local client is very good, with 1/2 
sec lag.

> - are you sure it is not simply a question of recording volume?

yes. that would be distortion, not hacked voice ..


> > I don't think it would help. Can you try with ohphone to see if it is
> > GnomeMeeting specific or OpenH323 specific?

I'll try later ...

regards,
       Michael


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Roger,

Eureka! It finally works! This one line hack did the trick.

Thanks for all of your help. Now I just need a camera and to try to
remember to re-apply the patch when openh323 is updated!

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
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> From: "Roger Hardiman" <roger@telepresence.dmem.strath.ac.uk>
> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 08:33:46 -0000
> 
> Hi
> 
> > I built both from the ports. (Of course, that is from sources.) I did
> > not install the packages.
> 
> Great.
> 
> oh, just a quick question. Do you have ESD or ARTS running - these are the
> sound daemons in
> gnome and kde and interfere with recording (and playback)
> 
> Now, for the patch
> Ok. What you need to do is recompile pwlib and then ohphone and gnomemeeting
> with a small change
> 
> lets do this...
> 1) cd /usr/ports/net/gnomemeeting
> 2) make clean
> 3) cd /usr/orts/net/ohphone
> 4) make clean
> 5) cd /usr/ports/net/openh323
> 6) make clean
> 7) make patch
> (this patches the source, but does not compile it)
> 8) edit the file work/pwlib/src/ptlib/unix/oss.cxx
> 9) look for the function (the method)
>   BOOL PSoundChannel::Read(...) {
> 
> In this code is a like this
>   if (lastReadCount != len)
> 
> 10) Now add the hack.
> Add a new line of code immediatly before the if (lastReadCount != len) line
> and put
>    lastReadCount = len;
> 
> 11) compile the openh323 port
> 12) compile the ohphone port
> 13) compile the gnomemeeting port
> 
> 
> 
> Roger
> 
> 

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Ok, Damien

I followed your advice and went for the gnomemeeting-0.94.2.tar.gz at 
0.94.2... dir
but still no success...
First  I have to state that I already experimented version 0.94.1 from
 gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386.rpm but I just wanted to upgrade and see the 
changes ...
I'm using Linux version 2.4.19 (root@peterpan) (gcc version 3.2 20020903 
(Red Hat Linux 8.0 3.2-7)),
openh323-1.9.10-4 and pwlib-1.3.11-1.

I tried the  ./configure from gnomemeeting-0.94.2 dir and it reported 
some missing libs and
probably pkgconfig not being installed .I checked and the libs where 
there and pkgconfig was not,
so I downloaded and decompressed pkgconfig-0.14.0.tar.gz and run 
./configure from it's dir .
I noticed a few "...no  " from the output and checked it out :
checking for working aclocal-1.4... missing
checking for working autoconf... missing
checking for working automake-1.4... missing
checking for working autoheader... missing
checking for working makeinfo... missing

So, I installed autoconf-2.53-8 and automake-1.6.3-1 from the rpm's in 
the distro cd's
( I didn't find rpm's for the others ) and run config again .
Here is the same part afterwords :

checking for working aclocal-1.4... missing
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake-1.4... missing
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... missing
 
( I realize it looks for automake-1.4... and I installed 1.6.3 ... )

I think this is why, after configure, make and make install the only .pc 
files
I have in the system is gnome-mime-data-2.0.pc at /usr/lib/pkgconfig and 
therefore
configuring  gnomemeeting isn't working .
Here's the last part of the output :

checking for pkg-config... /usr/local/bin/pkg-config
checking for libgnomeui-2.0 >= 1.112.0 linc >= 0.5.0 libbonobo-2.0 >= 
2.0.0 esound >= 0.2.28... Pack      age libgnomeui-2.0 was not found in 
the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libgnomeui-2.0.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'libgnomeui-2.0' found

configure: error: Library requirements (libgnomeui-2.0 >= 1.112.0 linc 
 >= 0.5.0 libbonobo-2.0 >= 2.0      .0 esound >= 0.2.28) not met; 
consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your 
li      braries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.

How would I adjust the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable and would 
that solve the problem?
The mentioned libraries are all installed from the distro rpm's in the 
/usr/lib dir ...

I would appreciate a little help .

Thanks .

P.S. : If you need the full output from configuring pkgconfig let me 
know and I'll post it
right away .


Damien Sandras wrote:

>Hello,
>
>if you are new to Linux, perhaps it is not a good idea to try to compile
>gnomemeeting from CVS, you will also need to take latest stable versions
>of openh323 and pwlib on openh323.org/bin
>
>If you still want to do it, autogen.sh behaves exactly the same as
>configure, just run it like you would run configure.
>
>Le ven 06/12/2002 à 01:07, João Pedro a écrit :
>  
>
>>This is probably a stupid question but comes from someone that knows 
>>little about Linux
>>but wants to know a little more ...
>>
>>The gnomemeeting-latest and gnomemeeting-2002-12-... files under 
>>http://www.gnomemeeting.org/admin/downloads/latest/snapshots/ don't have 
>>the
>>configure file .How are they installed?
>>
>>Tank you .
>>
>>J.Pedro
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
>>GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
>>http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
>>    
>>
>
>
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>




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On Friday 06 December 2002 00:29, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Le ven 06/12/2002 à 01:28, Rob Tow a écrit :
> > I just installed Gnomemeeting on SuSE 8.1 - It seems to connect to
> > directory, but I can't see any listings of other people - it just says I
> > have to register - but I thought the set-up tool registered me?
>
> You have to fill in your details in the configuration assistant when
> GnomeMeeting starts.
>
> Another way to do it is to fill in your Details in Personal Data in the
> preferences, then to go in the Directories section and to "Enable
> Registering" below the text entry where ils.seconix.com is displayed.

I have done both of the above, and it still does not work.

Do I need to fill in the gatekeeper ID? Right now it is on automatic discover 
- and there is an error message on start-up that says "no gatekeeper found".

I do get the message in the history log "Successfully registerd to ILS 
directory ilsseconix.com, port 389"


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Le ven 06/12/2002 à 16:35, João Pedro a écrit :
> Ok, Damien
> 
> I followed your advice and went for the gnomemeeting-0.94.2.tar.gz at 
> 0.94.2... dir
> but still no success...

I think you are not in the right directory.
You should use binary packages from the download section on the website.
Choose "Download" on the left.


> First  I have to state that I already experimented version 0.94.1 from
>  gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386.rpm but I just wanted to upgrade and see the 
> changes ...
> I'm using Linux version 2.4.19 (root@peterpan) (gcc version 3.2 20020903 
> (Red Hat Linux 8.0 3.2-7)),
> openh323-1.9.10-4 and pwlib-1.3.11-1.
> 
> I tried the  ./configure from gnomemeeting-0.94.2 dir and it reported 
> some missing libs and


Don't use 0.94.2, it never existed really, it was there by mistake.
Use either 0.94.1 stable, or CVS, ie the nightly snapshot.


> checking for pkg-config... /usr/local/bin/pkg-config
> checking for libgnomeui-2.0 >= 1.112.0 linc >= 0.5.0 libbonobo-2.0 >= 
> 2.0.0 esound >= 0.2.28... Pack      age libgnomeui-2.0 was not found in 
> the pkg-config search path.
> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libgnomeui-2.0.pc'
> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
> No package 'libgnomeui-2.0' found
> 
> configure: error: Library requirements (libgnomeui-2.0 >= 1.112.0 linc 
>  >= 0.5.0 libbonobo-2.0 >= 2.0      .0 esound >= 0.2.28) not met; 
> consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your 
> li      braries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
> 
> How would I adjust the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable and would 
> that solve the problem?


No it means that the mentionned libraries are not installed.

> The mentioned libraries are all installed from the distro rpm's in the 
> /usr/lib dir ...
> 


You probably installed the libs in binary form, but not the devel rpms.
You also need the devel rpms to be able to compile.

If you have redhat 8.0, a RPM of the nightly snapshot is available on
request on irc.gnome.org, #gnomemeeting.


> I would appreciate a little help .
> 
> Thanks .
> 
> P.S. : If you need the full output from configuring pkgconfig let me 
> know and I'll post it
> right away .
> 
> 
> Damien Sandras wrote:
> 
> >Hello,
> >
> >if you are new to Linux, perhaps it is not a good idea to try to compile
> >gnomemeeting from CVS, you will also need to take latest stable versions
> >of openh323 and pwlib on openh323.org/bin
> >
> >If you still want to do it, autogen.sh behaves exactly the same as
> >configure, just run it like you would run configure.
> >
> >Le ven 06/12/2002 à 01:07, João Pedro a écrit :
> >  
> >
> >>This is probably a stupid question but comes from someone that knows 
> >>little about Linux
> >>but wants to know a little more ...
> >>
> >>The gnomemeeting-latest and gnomemeeting-2002-12-... files under 
> >>http://www.gnomemeeting.org/admin/downloads/latest/snapshots/ don't have 
> >>the
> >>configure file .How are they installed?
> >>
> >>Tank you .
> >>
> >>J.Pedro
> >>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> >>GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> >>http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> 
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Le ven 06/12/2002 à 17:57, Rob Tow a écrit :

> 
> I have done both of the above, and it still does not work.
> 

Try to upgrade GnomeMeeting and see if it fixes the problem.
I think Suse 8.1 is still shipping with an antic GnomeMeeting version.

> Do I need to fill in the gatekeeper ID? Right now it is on automatic discover 
> - and there is an error message on start-up that says "no gatekeeper found".
> 

No need to fill in Gatekeeper if you don't have a H.323 Gatekeeper on
your LAN.

> I do get the message in the history log "Successfully registerd to ILS 
> directory ilsseconix.com, port 389"
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Hi,
When I start "gnomemeeting", connnected on internet,
the first image appears and all is stalled ,  I cannot stop
gnomemeeting ... only by kill -9 n=B0 ps !
If I open Gnomemeeting, internet disconnected, all the windows open
normally.
quid ?
thanks
antoine

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Hi,
> When I start "gnomemeeting", connnected on internet,
> the first image appears and all is stalled ,  I cannot stop
> gnomemeeting ... only by kill -9 n=B0 ps !
> If I open Gnomemeeting, internet disconnected, all the windows open
> normally.
> quid ?
> thanks
> antoine
-----------------------------------------
and now :
-----
(gnomemeeting:2029): Gtk-CRITICAL **: file ../../gtk/gtktextbuffer.c: lin=
e 476=20
(gtk_text_buffer_emit_insert): assertion `g_utf8_validate (text, len, NUL=
L)'=20
failed
------------------
when i send a message ...

thanks

antoine



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I suggest you to go on irc.gnome.org, #gnomemeeting, people there will
help you to make GnomeMeeting work for you forever :)


Le ven 06/12/2002 à 18:41, antoine a écrit :
> Hi,
> When I start "gnomemeeting", connnected on internet,
> the first image appears and all is stalled ,  I cannot stop
> gnomemeeting ... only by kill -9 n° ps !
> If I open Gnomemeeting, internet disconnected, all the windows open
> normally.
> quid ?
> thanks
> antoine
> _______________________________________________
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> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
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I deleted Gnomemeeting, and re-installed it from the web site. Several 
libraries needed to be (re)installed, too (this was for SuSE 8.1). Now it 
works.

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Hello all,

I've just compiled successfully the Quicknet linux driver for for the
PHONEJACK-PCI card (ixj.o and phonedev.o).

I've installed the Gnomemeeting CVS (nightly snapshot, v0.95) from packages in
.deb format. Thank you very much for giving .deb packages for Debian
users like me.

My question is how to configure the Quicknet card on Gnomemeeting Menu ?
Here is what I did:

  - go to "Edit > Preferences" to get the GM menu configuration popup,
  - go to "Audio codecs", disable all codecs proposed in list,
  
  - get down to "Device > Audio",
  - in the section "Quicknet Device", I enable "* Use the Quicknet Device"

So, 
  - is it normal that, in the section "Audio Devices",

       Audio Player is still pointed to /dev/dsp , and
     Audio Recorder is still pointed to /dev/dsp
 
  - another question, where should I define the codec G.723.1 which is
    used for the Quicknet card ? If it's in the codecs sections, I don't
    find it. I know that all codecs are built directly onto the
    Quicknet card.


Thank you very much for your helps,

Truong

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Le sam 07/12/2002 à 19:24, Truong a écrit :
> Hello all,
> 
> I've just compiled successfully the Quicknet linux driver for for the
> PHONEJACK-PCI card (ixj.o and phonedev.o).
> 
> I've installed the Gnomemeeting CVS (nightly snapshot, v0.95) from packages in
> .deb format. Thank you very much for giving .deb packages for Debian
> users like me.
> 
> My question is how to configure the Quicknet card on Gnomemeeting Menu ?
> Here is what I did:
> 
>   - go to "Edit > Preferences" to get the GM menu configuration popup,
>   - go to "Audio codecs", disable all codecs proposed in list,
>   
>   - get down to "Device > Audio",
>   - in the section "Quicknet Device", I enable "* Use the Quicknet Device"
> 
> So, 
>   - is it normal that, in the section "Audio Devices",
> 
>        Audio Player is still pointed to /dev/dsp , and
>      Audio Recorder is still pointed to /dev/dsp

Yes, a Quicknet device is something different. Audio Player and Audio
Recorder are Soundcard related.

>  
>   - another question, where should I define the codec G.723.1 which is
>     used for the Quicknet card ? If it's in the codecs sections, I don't
>     find it. I know that all codecs are built directly onto the
>     Quicknet card.

It is automatic, when you are using a Quicknet card, the code G.723.1 is
implicitely chosen.

> 
> 
> Thank you very much for your helps,
> 
> Truong
> 
> --
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% *** Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> wrote: ***

% > So, 
% >   - is it normal that, in the section "Audio Devices",
% > 
% >        Audio Player is still pointed to /dev/dsp , and
% >      Audio Recorder is still pointed to /dev/dsp
% 
% Yes, a Quicknet device is something different. Audio Player and Audio
% Recorder are Soundcard related.
% 
% >  
% >   - another question, where should I define the codec G.723.1 which is
% >     used for the Quicknet card ? If it's in the codecs sections, I don't
% >     find it. I know that all codecs are built directly onto the
% >     Quicknet card.
% 
% It is automatic, when you are using a Quicknet card, the code G.723.1 is
% implicitely chosen.
% 

Ok, no need to configure the codecs for Quicknet cards.

As in a mail on the list relied to subject concerning the codecs for
Quicknet, you said about G.723.1 choosen for Quicknet card. I thought I
should define it somewhere from the GM menu. That was why my questions
in the last mail.

Thanks again,

Truong

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peace and love ?

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Yeah! Peace and love!=20
It was a very old ideas for beatniks in old sixties!
Since we have a monster whose name is Europe! It seems that it will be, =
today, (perhaps?) to speak french, italian or spanish and so on! Et =
pourtant, j'aime "Beaucoup de bruit pour rien...",  Verdi, Frederico =
Garcia Lorca, et les primitifs Flamants! Quelle richesse ce pays! Et =
maintenat nous avons Linux pour notre plus grand plaisir =E0 tous!!! Pas =
beau cela?  (A redmond on n'aime pas du tout! Dommage!)

But, when i see the quality of gomemeeting and linux, the question to =
Damien Sandras, and the analysis,  i think that=20
qu'il est vraiment dommage de chicaner car nous avons l=E0 l'avenir...

En attendant, chez moi, Gnomemeeting ne marche toujours pas  malgr=E9 =
une etude approfondie de la FAQ, de la config... Etc.
un telnet me permet de voir qu'il y a un serveur au bout. Par contre, =
gnomemeeting ne me permet pas de me logger. Je suis sous ADSL par free. =
Je parierais que la cause est l=E0. Bizarre cependant, car gnomeicu =
fonctionne tres bien.
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English translation here after:

Ce n'est pas chicaner. Tu poses une question en français, donc seuls les
utilisateurs francophones de la mailing list (quelque pourcents) sont
donc à même de t'aider.
En posant la question en anglais, tu t'exposes à plus de chance d'avoir
une réponse. A toi de voir.

Quand je vais à l'étranger, faire une conférence par exemple, je
m'adapte, je ne fais pas la conférence en français dans un pays où
personne ne parle le français. C'est pareil ici sur la mailing list.

Pour terminer, tu ne donnes aucune info sur ton problème, il y a fort à
parier que personne ne pourra donc t'aider. Débugger un problème pas par
une description précise et détaille de ce qui ne fonctionne pas de ce
que tu fais pour y arriver, dans une langue comprise par ceux qui sont
susceptibles de t'aider.

J'ignorerai personellement les messages suivants en français par respect
pour les gens qui ne comprennent pas cette langue et sont inscrits ici.
--
Translation :

You are asking a question in french, so only french users on the mailing
list (only a few percent) could help you. By asking your question in
englis, you would increase the change for your problem to be solved. It
is up to you to see what you prefer.

Moreover, you are not giving any useful information about your problem,
nobody will be able to help. Debugging and solving a problem begins by a
precise description of the problem itself, in a language understood by
people you are requesting help from.

I will personally ignore the following messages written in french by
respect for people who don't understand this language and are subscribed
to this mailing list.
--

Le lun 09/12/2002 à 15:48, Patrick a écrit :
> Yeah! Peace and love! 
> It was a very old ideas for beatniks in old sixties!
> Since we have a monster whose name is Europe! It seems that it will
> be, today, (perhaps?) to speak french, italian or spanish and so on!
> Et pourtant, j'aime "Beaucoup de bruit pour rien...",  Verdi,
> Frederico Garcia Lorca, et les primitifs Flamants! Quelle richesse ce
> pays! Et maintenat nous avons Linux pour notre plus grand plaisir à
> tous!!! Pas beau cela?  (A redmond on n'aime pas du tout! Dommage!)
>  
> But, when i see the quality of gomemeeting and linux, the question to
> Damien Sandras, and the analysis,  i think that 
> qu'il est vraiment dommage de chicaner car nous avons là l'avenir...
>  
> En attendant, chez moi, Gnomemeeting ne marche toujours pas  malgré
> une etude approfondie de la FAQ, de la config... Etc.
> un telnet me permet de voir qu'il y a un serveur au bout. Par contre,
> gnomemeeting ne me permet pas de me logger. Je suis sous ADSL par
> free. Je parierais que la cause est là. Bizarre cependant, car
> gnomeicu fonctionne tres bien.
> Les premieres versions de gnomemeeting marchaient avec modem classique
> (56k) sous mandrake 8.2
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Quant à Beyrouth, les libanais sont des gens attachants, de caractère,
> ouverts, acceuillants et sympa! Même au pire de leur embêtements, il y
> a vingt ans! C'est cela quand on est fils d'une très
> vieille civilisation. Et en plus ils parlent français!
>  
>  
>  
>         ----- Original Message ----- 
>         From: Hdebaillenx@aol.com
>         To: gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org
>         Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:21 AM
>         Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: gnomemeeting and 0.85
>         version
>         
>         Bonjour la France 
>         
>         C'est clair,  sa rigole pas !!! 
>         C vrai que parler langue en Belgique est plus dangereux que de
>         jouer de la AK47 a Beyrouth !!! 
>         
>         peace and love ? 
>         
>         s@lutations numériques 
>         
>         Hervé 
>         
>         http://membres.lycos.fr/hervedebaillenx/index.htm
>         Tel/Fax        :   01 39 71 72 94 
>         NetMeeting  :   ils.seconix.com 
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Le Lundi 9 D=E9cembre 2002 14:48, Patrick a =E9crit :
> Yeah! Peace and love!
> En attendant, chez moi, Gnomemeeting ne marche toujours pas  malgr=E9 u=
ne
> etude approfondie de la FAQ, de la config... Etc. un telnet me permet d=
e
> voir qu'il y a un serveur au bout. Par contre, gnomemeeting ne me perme=
t
> pas de me logger. Je suis sous ADSL par free. Je parierais que la cause=
 est
> l=E0. Bizarre cependant, car gnomeicu fonctionne tres bien. Les premier=
es
> versions de gnomemeeting marchaient avec modem classique (56k) sous
> mandrake 8.2
---------------------
so, answer in english ... :-)
only the versions >=3D to 0.93 works good with gnomemeeting !
so, which one do you use ?
if < to 0.93, update it.
I had + - similar problems and with 0.95, it's ok and a configuration dir=
ect=20
in line with the master Damien Sandras, who helped me very well !

I add :
in the menu "preferences", don't write characters with accents like : =E9=
, =E0 , =E8=20
=2E.. avoid it, because it makes gnomeeting very instable :
is it a bug, is it posible to correct it ?
If I write my name "Wach=E9" : does not work=20
but "Wache" =3D ok .
gnomemeeting is for english language, but not international, does not lik=
e the=20
accents  :-)
bye
antoine



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Le mar 10/12/2002 à 15:36, antoine a écrit :

> If I write my name "Waché" : does not work 
> but "Wache" = ok .

It was corrected in 0.94.1, only 0.93.1 had that bug:
http://www.gnomemeeting.org/downloads/snapshots/gm-cyr.png

Look to that screenshot to see that internationalisation works very well
:)


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Le Mardi 10 D=E9cembre 2002 17:20, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> Le mar 10/12/2002 =E0 15:36, antoine a =E9crit :
> > If I write my name "Wach=E9" : does not work
> > but "Wache" =3D ok .
> It was corrected in 0.94.1, only 0.93.1 had that bug:
> http://www.gnomemeeting.org/downloads/snapshots/gm-cyr.png
> Look to that screenshot to see that internationalisation works very wel=
l
-------------
sorry !
thanks Damien for this correction .
so I have the 0.93 ...
I have to update too  :-)
antoine Wach=E9


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Hi,
I want to update gnomemeeting 0.93 --> 0.95
i'm under MDK 9.0. and it's the first time I use this distribution.
If I use the classical .RPM files I receive those messages :
-----
rpm -Uvh gnomemeeting ....... .rpm
error: failed dependencies:
        openh323 >=3D 1.9.10-4 is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        pwlib >=3D 1.3.11 is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libcrypto.so.2   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libssl.so.2   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
[root@aw local]# rpm -Uvh openh323-1.9.10-4.i386.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
        pwlib >=3D 1.3.11 is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
        libcrypto.so.2   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
        libssl.so.2   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
[root@aw local]# rpm -Uvh pwlib-1.3.11-1.i386.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
        libcrypto.so.2   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libssl.so.2   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
-------------------------------------------
So I want to use "urpmi" and I don't know how to do that ?

Thanks a lot !

antoine Wach=E9

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Hi !

Am Dienstag, 10. Dezember 2002 21:07 schrieb antoine:

> So I want to use "urpmi" and I don't know how to do that ?

put all three rpms into one seperate directory and do a 'urpmi *' ; that =
way=20
all rpms from there plus the other needed rpms are installed.

Matthias Marks (aka matti on #gnomemeeting, irc.gnome.org)


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> So I want to use "urpmi" and I don't know how to do that ?
>antoine Wach=E9
>----------------------
> put all three rpms into one seperate directory and do a 'urpmi *' ; tha=
t
> way all rpms from there plus the other needed rpms are installed.
> Matthias Marks (aka matti on #gnomemeeting, irc.gnome.org)
---------------------------------------
I do what you told me and :
[root@aw local]# urpmi *.rpm
installation de ./openh323-1.9.10-4.i386.rpm ./gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386=
=2Erpm=20
=2E/pwlib-1.3.11-1.i386.rpm
L'installation a =E9chou=E9 :=20
        libcrypto.so.2 est n=E9cessaire =E0 openh323-1.9.10-4
        libssl.so.2 est n=E9cessaire =E0 openh323-1.9.10-4
        libcrypto.so.2 est n=E9cessaire =E0 gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libssl.so.2 est n=E9cessaire =E0 gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libcrypto.so.2 est n=E9cessaire =E0 pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3) est n=E9cessaire =E0 pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libssl.so.2 est n=E9cessaire =E0 pwlib-1.3.11-1
----------------
so exactly the same message than with "rpm -Uvh ...." :-)

any idea for another solution

thanks

antoine


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Hi again !

Am Dienstag, 10. Dezember 2002 21:31 schrieb antoine:

> installation de ./openh323-1.9.10-4.i386.rpm
> ./gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386.rpm ./pwlib-1.3.11-1.i386.rpm

It seems you downloaded the rpms for redhat, not for mandrake (mandrake r=
pms=20
have a "mdk" in the name. Here's the direct link to the correct rpms:

http://www.gnomemeeting.org/downloads/0.94.1/mandrake/


Matthias Marks (aka matti on #gnomemeeting, irc.gnome.org)



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Le Mardi 10 D=E9cembre 2002 21:46, Matthias Marks a =E9crit :
> It seems you downloaded the rpms for redhat, not for mandrake (mandrake
> rpms have a "mdk" in the name. Here's the direct link to the correct rp=
ms:
> http://www.gnomemeeting.org/downloads/0.94.1/mandrake/
> Matthias Marks
--------------
hi,
it works for the install.
-------
but now , with the GM 0.94, I have problems with the sound card :
I receive a message : "the audio is already in use, audio will be stopped=
".
but it's difficult on seconix 's users to find somebody free to make a te=
st .
thanks
antoine



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Le mer 11/12/2002 =E0 09:30, antoine a =E9crit :
> Le Mardi 10 D=E9cembre 2002 21:46, Matthias Marks a =E9crit :
> > It seems you downloaded the rpms for redhat, not for mandrake (mandrake
> > rpms have a "mdk" in the name. Here's the direct link to the correct rp=
ms:
> > http://www.gnomemeeting.org/downloads/0.94.1/mandrake/
> > Matthias Marks
> --------------
> hi,
hi antoine,

> it works for the install.
nice,

> -------
> but now , with the GM 0.94, I have problems with the sound card :
> I receive a message : "the audio is already in use, audio will be stopped=
".
are you using KDE (and artsd)?
if yes you should try to pause or stop the artsd sound daemon before
launching GnomeMeeting.

> but it's difficult on seconix 's users to find somebody free to make a te=
st.
I think you should find someone free for a test more easily on
irc.gimpnet.org #gnomemeeting.
> thanks
> antoine

hope this help.

Fabrice

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> are you using KDE (and artsd)?
> if yes you should try to pause or stop the artsd sound daemon before
> launching GnomeMeeting.
> Fabrice
------------------------
i'm on KDE.
artsd : I don't know ...
How to know that ?
I saw in the "daemons" services
no "artsd" are here !
but "atrsd" seems loaded at boot.
so how to pause or stop it
If I want to make a record sound with my micro,
the recording has a very bad quality ...
it worked quite well before with GM 0.93 ...
thanks
antoine


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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 11:13, antoine a écrit :

> i'm on KDE.
> artsd : I don't know ...
> How to know that ?

ps ax for example

> I saw in the "daemons" services
> no "artsd" are here !

artsd is not a standard daemon

> but "atrsd" seems loaded at boot.
> so how to pause or stop it
> If I want to make a record sound with my micro,
> the recording has a very bad quality ...
> it worked quite well before with GM 0.93 ...

You probably changed something else. Installing GnomeMeeting doesn't
influence the recording of the micro with other programs, Linux is not
Windows (fortunately) ;)

> thanks
> antoine
> 
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hi,

-I see in my processus (ps aux) that 6 gnomemeeting are
open. is it normal ?
----
-when I cut a connection after a too long wait, I cannot connect on a use=
r=20
again.
I have to close the GM window and I have to "killall gnomemeeting" becaus=
e the
processus are always open ...
-----
-I decided to come back to the .093 version, but the difficulties are=20
the same above than with the 0.94 !

thanks

antoine



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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 14:27, antoine a écrit :
> -I see in my processus (ps aux) that 6 gnomemeeting are
> open. is it normal ?

Yes, that's what is call a thread. You have 6 threads.

> ----
> -when I cut a connection after a too long wait, I cannot connect on a user 
> again.
> I have to close the GM window and I have to "killall gnomemeeting" because the
> processus are always open ...

That is not normal, I don't understand what you are doing.

> -----
> -I decided to come back to the .093 version, but the difficulties are 
> the same above than with the 0.94 !
> 

That is not normal either. You had a perfectly working configuration
this WE after we helped you during a long time. You probably changed
things in your configuration since that moment.

> thanks
> 
> antoine
> 

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Hi, I was quite rudely called back after submitting a gnomemeeting
enhancement proposal to the bugzilla with the enhancement flag set. The
person said I should send them here. Just to check, is this correct?

Thanks,
Robert

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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 15:42, Robert Schmidt a écrit :
> Hi, I was quite rudely called back after submitting a gnomemeeting
> enhancement proposal to the bugzilla with the enhancement flag set. The
> person said I should send them here. Just to check, is this correct?
> 

Hello Robert,

Actually I think that you can request enhancements on bugzilla, but we
prefer to discuss those enhancements on the gnomemeeting-devel-list that
has been created on this purpose and keep bugzilla for bugs.

Here is how things should be working:
- gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org : User problems
- gnomemeeting-devel-list@gnome.org : Development discussions, including
features enhancements, and so on
- bugzilla : bug reports

However, Bugzilla permits to report enhancements and several people are
reporting them on Bugzilla. We didn't make it clear yet on website how
we would like things to work. Our apologies about that.
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Hi !

Am Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2002 15:42 schrieb Robert Schmidt:
> Hi, I was quite rudely called back after submitting a gnomemeeting
> enhancement proposal to the bugzilla with the enhancement flag set. The
> person said I should send them here. Just to check, is this correct?

Yes, this is the right place :-)

Matthias Marks (aka matti on #gnomemeeting, irc.gnome.org)

P.S. My callback would have been a bit more polite ;-), but he's right th=
at it=20
isn't a bug...

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We prefer to discuss new features in one of the mailing list (developers
list is better in any case).
I've read your bug report, but it's not very clear to me want to really
mean.
Could you please elaborate?

PD: All ideas are welcome, please don't mind rudeness, nobody was rude
to you on purpose... (it's just that we are not very good english
speakers ;) )

El mi=C3=A9, 11-12-2002 a las 15:42, Robert Schmidt escribi=C3=B3:
> Hi, I was quite rudely called back after submitting a gnomemeeting
> enhancement proposal to the bugzilla with the enhancement flag set. The
> person said I should send them here. Just to check, is this correct?
>=20
> Thanks,
> Robert
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list

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Hi,

	I know GnomeMeeting DOESN'T support Remote Desktop sharing like Netmeeting
does, but are there any plans to or does anyone know of any Linux clients
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Thanks in advance.



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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 16:07, Jean-Claude Gervais a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> 	I know GnomeMeeting DOESN'T support Remote Desktop sharing like Netmeeting
> does, but are there any plans to or does anyone know of any Linux clients
> that DO?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 

Currently there are no plans as we prefer to concentrate in pure
videoconferencing and VOIP, but you can use VNC (google) or RDESKTOP
(http://www.rdesktop.org)


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hi,

I think my difficulties, probabely, come from
my modem RTC and not ADSL connection !
because it's seem working better late in the night ...
or when people disconnect their video
(i don't have webcam)

I don't see bad configurations in my gnomemeeting ...
excepted maybe,  sound =3D I cannot record

thanks for people who help me on the GM chat.
-----------------------------------
I try with "netmeeting" of window$ , but netmeeting answers :
no connection possible with netmeeting on :  " ils.seconix.com "

quid ?

antoine

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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 16:17, antoine a écrit :
> hi,
> 
> I think my difficulties, probabely, come from
> my modem RTC and not ADSL connection !
> because it's seem working better late in the night ...
> or when people disconnect their video
> (i don't have webcam)

That could be possible...

> 
> I don't see bad configurations in my gnomemeeting ...
> excepted maybe,  sound = I cannot record
> 

Check your volumes levels with the Gnome or KDE mixers.


> thanks for people who help me on the GM chat.
> -----------------------------------
> I try with "netmeeting" of window$ , but netmeeting answers :
> no connection possible with netmeeting on :  " ils.seconix.com "
> 

There are currently 10 Netmeeting connected to ils.seconix.com => that
should be possible. Anyway, that is more a question for Microsoft
technical support ;)

> quid ?
> 
> antoine
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> Check your volumes levels with the Gnome or KDE mixers.
ok !
-----------------------------------
> > I try with "netmeeting" of window$ , but netmeeting answers :
> > no connection possible with netmeeting on :  " ils.seconix.com "
---------------
> There are currently 10 Netmeeting connected to ils.seconix.com =3D> tha=
t
> should be possible. Anyway, that is more a question for Microsoft
> technical support ;)
----------
yes but strange that some can do that and not me,
but no matter in fact ... i'm not on win$ but it was for a try ..
to compare and understands my difficulties on GM
using netmeeting ...
antoine

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Thanks for the speedy reply, Damien,

The only problem is that RDesktop.org's client software only supports
Windows Terminal Services / Windows XP RDP.
I need something that supports NetMeeting's Remote Desktop sharing, and
unless I am mistaken, they are two different things.
Um, what IS the protocol NetMeeting uses for its Remote Desktop Sharing?

Thanks

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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 16:07, Jean-Claude Gervais a écrit :
> Hi,
>
>       I know GnomeMeeting DOESN'T support Remote Desktop sharing like
Netmeeting
> does, but are there any plans to or does anyone know of any Linux clients
> that DO?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

Currently there are no plans as we prefer to concentrate in pure
videoconferencing and VOIP, but you can use VNC (google) or RDESKTOP
(http://www.rdesktop.org)


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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 16:30, Jean-Claude Gervais a écrit :
> Thanks for the speedy reply, Damien,
> 
> The only problem is that RDesktop.org's client software only supports
> Windows Terminal Services / Windows XP RDP.
> I need something that supports NetMeeting's Remote Desktop sharing, and
> unless I am mistaken, they are two different things.
> Um, what IS the protocol NetMeeting uses for its Remote Desktop Sharing?
> 

A subpart of T.120.

I know no implementation of it on Linux, I think that would be too hard.
But if you want a non-netmeeting desktop sharing software, there is VNC
which works well.

I don't think that GM will one day do remote desktop sharing: "Do one
thing, but do it well", and we want to concentrate on different things
(SIP, MCU, answering machines, ...)

> Thanks
> 

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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 16:19, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> There are currently 10 Netmeeting connected to ils.seconix.com => that
> should be possible. Anyway, that is more a question for Microsoft
> technical support ;)

My father finds it difficult to register on seconix sometimes ; his
solution, of course, is to reboot...

Lately, when he tried to connect to me, nm told him I wasn't able to
communicate...

This is just like my ex-provider, of which 99,99% of the staff thought
internet was a M$ invention, and I shouldn't even think to connect with
a linux...

Some things just put me in bad mood...

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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hi all,
just got gnomemeeting and installed it, but I havn't been able to get it =
to=20
work. I keep getting the message "GnomeMeeting got 0 for the GConf key=20
'/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test_age", but 12 was expected"

I tried runing gnomemeeting-config-tool but it didnt help. Finally I trie=
d
> gconftool-2 --get "/apps/gnomemeeting/general/gconf_test"=20
and
> gconftool-2 --get "/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test"=20
but got "No value set for '/apps/gnomemeeting..'=20

I am running SuSE 8.0 with KDE3 and didn't have any of the gnome libs bef=
ore,=20
but now I downloaded all the required libs as said in the README from you=
r=20
downloads page (rpms are from SuSE's ftp server) and got the gnomemeeting=
 rpm=20
for SuSE from your download page.
This might be something very simple (hopefully) but since I am no gnome u=
ser I=20
really don't know where to start looking for.
I tried=20
>gconftool-2 --get-default-source
and got
>xml::/etc/opt/gnome2/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults
I then looked into that directory and there are two dirs: "apps" and=20
"schemas".  There is a gnomemeeting directory in each of them, each=20
containing a bunch of subdirs like "audio_codecs", "audio_settings", ...=20
"devices",...., "ldap", "personal_data", "view"

I have zero idea of gconf and friends, so any hints as to how to solve th=
is or=20
where to find more info would be great.

thanks

luis

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Am Donnerstag, 12. Dezember 2002 01:55 schrieb Luis De la Parra Blum:
> hi all,
> just got gnomemeeting and installed it, but I havn't been able to get it to
> work. I keep getting the message "GnomeMeeting got 0 for the GConf key
> '/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test_age", but 12 was expected"
>
> I tried runing gnomemeeting-config-tool but it didnt help. Finally I tried
>
> > gconftool-2 --get "/apps/gnomemeeting/general/gconf_test"
>
> and
>
> > gconftool-2 --get "/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test"
>
> but got "No value set for '/apps/gnomemeeting..'
>
> I am running SuSE 8.0 with KDE3 and didn't have any of the gnome libs
> before, but now I downloaded all the required libs as said in the README
> from your downloads page (rpms are from SuSE's ftp server) and got the
> gnomemeeting rpm for SuSE from your download page.

Did you run the SuSEconfig scripts mentioned in the README? Also be sure you 
have installed the latest package which can be found under Downloads, test 
your installation with
$> rpm -q gnomemeeting
this should return gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3

Greetings,

Stefan

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ons 2002-12-11 klockan 15.52 skrev Damien Sandras:
> > Hi, I was quite rudely called back after submitting a gnomemeeting
> > enhancement proposal to the bugzilla with the enhancement flag set. The
> > person said I should send them here. Just to check, is this correct?
> 
> Hello Robert,
> 
> Actually I think that you can request enhancements on bugzilla, but we
> prefer to discuss those enhancements on the gnomemeeting-devel-list that
> has been created on this purpose and keep bugzilla for bugs.

In my opinion, it's useful to have both. Bugzilla is good for keeping
track of things but a bad place to have planning, a mailing list is a
good place to have planning but a bad place to track things. So only
having feature requests on the mailing list is probably bad as it isn't
easy to later find out what actually happened to it after the discussion
died -- was it implemented, will it be implemented at some point, or was
it decided it was a bad idea altogether and will never be implemented?

Thus, I suggest that both are used -- when a feature request appears on
the mailing list, make sure an entry for it is also in bugzilla, and
vice versa. Make sure that you put in a link to the bugzilla bug report
in the mailing list thread, and a link to the mailing list thread in the
bug report. Then continue to have the discussion on the mailing list.
Finally, when there is a consensus or a decision or the discussion died
out some other way, try to do a very short summary of it in the bugzilla
bug report and update the status of the bug report accordingly.

Also, one advantage of also having feature requests also in bugzilla is
that it's easy to point to existing resolutions for some common
requests. If someone asks on the mailing list about why there isn't a
desktop sharing feature for the second time, it's easy to point to the
bugzilla bug report where the decision is summarized (it's usually
easier to search bugzilla than mailing list archives), and avoid having
to have the entire discussion and summarize once again on the mailing
list. If someone put's a "why isn't there a remote desktop feature"
enhancement request in bugzilla, it's easy to make it a duplicate of the
existing bugzilla bug report about the same issue and be done with it.

So bugzilla and the development mailing lists are used complimentary.
Surely most other application teams in GNOME also believe in mailing
list developer discussions, but they also often use bugzilla to track
specific enhancement requests, even though it may be discussed
elsewhere. This is why there is a "enhancement" category to begin with
in bugzilla. :)


Christian



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Le jeu 12/12/2002 à 07:40, Christian Rose a écrit :

I pretty much agree, but if people keep on asking for something gm won't
give, shouldn't it go in the faq, and not in the bugzilla?

I tend to search the faq of a project when I lack something and/or have
a problem with it; searching for known bugs comes only after, if it ever
comes: I've only looked in gm's bugzilla when someone in #gnomemeeting
gave a link... (I prefer going to the debian bts...)

Snark on #gnomemeeting

PS: xchat has a nice feature: when you right-click on a link, you get
the choice to open it in various browsers, in a new window or a new
tab...


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tor 2002-12-12 klockan 08.55 skrev PUYDT Julien:
> I pretty much agree, but if people keep on asking for something gm won't
> give, shouldn't it go in the faq, and not in the bugzilla?

You can do both. That's the beauty of having things in Bugzilla; it's
easy to link to it. You can have a short answer in the FAQ, and also
provide a link to the relevant bugzilla bug where people can read more
about the decision if they are interested, and also see links to the
mailing list thread(s).

"Q: Are there any plans on a foo feature?
A: No. GnomeMeeting is a video conference application only and we are
not planning on extending it with the foo feature, since there are
better and specialized applications that can do that already. For more
details, see <link>bugzilla bug 123456</link>."


Christian



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Am Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 18:13 schrieb Damien Sandras:
> Le ven 06/12/2002 à 17:57, Rob Tow a écrit :
> > I have done both of the above, and it still does not work.

You have pushed the refresh button in the ILS view?

> Try to upgrade GnomeMeeting and see if it fixes the problem.
> I think Suse 8.1 is still shipping with an antic GnomeMeeting version.

8.1 includes Gnome2 and GM 0.93

Greetings,

Stefan
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On Thursday 12 December 2002 04:09, Stefan Bruens wrote:
> Did you run the SuSEconfig scripts mentioned in the README? Also be sur=
e

yes, I did.
I found it a little strange that they ran so fast though...
normally (when you install something with Yast) it takes a little longer,=
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in this case it was "running, reading, executing and finished" extremly f=
ast.=20
either the configuration needed is minimal, or something is not running a=
s it=20
should (?)

> you have installed the latest package which can be found under Download=
s,
> test your installation with
> $> rpm -q gnomemeeting
> this should return gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>
yes, gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3

any other ideas how I can check this?
I tried=20
>for i in `ls -R`
 do cat $i|grep gconf_test_age && echo "********************match FOUND i=
n"=20
$i;=20
done
in /etc/opt/gnome2/gconf, but no file seems to contain such a key.
I also tried the gnomemeeting-config-tool, and it says it has installed t=
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I'm new to Gnomemeeting and am trialing it between various other
Gnomemeeting clients: some on the local network, some across a reasonably
good Internet connection (60ms round trip) and beyond.  In every case,
audio quality is terrible.

I am using a Quicknet card and Gnomemeeting is configured to use it.  
Loopback testing indicates that the audio is crystal clear.

People on the other end report that I sound like a chipmunk :-) (which, I
can assure you is not normally the case!)  How can I got about
troubleshooting this?  I looked at the audio codecs and all of them are
selected.  I would all to perform reasonably well, especially on the low
latency connections I am testing it with.

Any ideas?  Thanks,

Ben


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> I'm new to Gnomemeeting and am trialing it between various other
> Gnomemeeting clients: some on the local network, some across a reasonably
> good Internet connection (60ms round trip) and beyond.  In every case,
> audio quality is terrible.
>
> I am using a Quicknet card and Gnomemeeting is configured to use it.
> Loopback testing indicates that the audio is crystal clear.
>
> People on the other end report that I sound like a chipmunk :-) (which, I
> can assure you is not normally the case!)  How can I got about
> troubleshooting this?  I looked at the audio codecs and all of them are
> selected.  I would all to perform reasonably well, especially on the low
> latency connections I am testing it with.
>
> Any ideas?  Thanks,

Hi,
   i have no idea, but a similar problem, outgoing sound though a gatekeeper
with a quicknet card sound terrible, while incoming sound is quite good ..
Unfortunately i have no sollution for this yet ..

regards,
      Michael


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Hi,
 audio quality is influenced by a number of factors:

  1) sound collection device
      a microphone and headphones is best.

  2) Increase your jitter buffer size.

  3)  Select G723.1 codec.

  4) Try lowering your play/record volume a little.


Incidentally, what Quicknet card are you using?

Derek.

==================================================================
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Ben Elliston wrote:

> I'm new to Gnomemeeting and am trialing it between various other
> Gnomemeeting clients: some on the local network, some across a reasonably
> good Internet connection (60ms round trip) and beyond.  In every case,
> audio quality is terrible.
> 
> I am using a Quicknet card and Gnomemeeting is configured to use it.  
> Loopback testing indicates that the audio is crystal clear.
> 
> People on the other end report that I sound like a chipmunk :-) (which, I
> can assure you is not normally the case!)  How can I got about
> troubleshooting this?  I looked at the audio codecs and all of them are
> selected.  I would all to perform reasonably well, especially on the low
> latency connections I am testing it with.
> 
> Any ideas?  Thanks,
> 
> Ben
> 
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> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
> 
> 

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Hi.

>   1) sound collection device
>       a microphone and headphones is best.

Why would I want to use a mic and headphones if I have a Quicknet card 
with echo cancellation?  Isn't that superior?

>   2) Increase your jitter buffer size.

I increased it to 200ms -- enough?

>   3)  Select G723.1 codec.

I don't have a G723.1 codec.  Perhaps I'm using a slightly older version.  
I am using 0.93.1.  Or am I doing something wrong?

> Incidentally, what Quicknet card are you using?

PhoneJACK.

Ben


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Hi,

>   1) sound collection device
>       a microphone and headphones is best.

using a normal phone ... thats the scope of quicknet card, isn't it ? ;)

>   2) Increase your jitter buffer size.

did try to play with it ...

>   3)  Select G723.1 codec.

not there ..

>   4) Try lowering your play/record volume a little.

not aviable .. ;) damian told me that maybe there will be in the next
version

> Incidentally, what Quicknet card are you using?

Internet PhoneJack PCI linux edition

regards,
        Michael


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Le ven 13/12/2002 à 02:00, Ben Elliston a écrit :

> >   3)  Select G723.1 codec.
> 
> I don't have a G723.1 codec.  Perhaps I'm using a slightly older version.  
> I am using 0.93.1.  Or am I doing something wrong?

Yes, Quicknet support is only complete in the CVS version of
GnomeMeeting.

G.723.1 is automaticall selected when you are using the Quicknet card.

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Le ven 13/12/2002 à 16:09, Michael Glauche a écrit :

> >   3)  Select G723.1 codec.
> 
> not there ..
> 

Read my previous post and check the "General History" to see if the
right codec is used. Perhaps your settings select G.711, it was a bug in
the CVS version you tried.

> >   4) Try lowering your play/record volume a little.
> 
> not aviable .. ;) damian told me that maybe there will be in the next
> version

That is implemented in current CVS.

> 
> > Incidentally, what Quicknet card are you using?
> 
> Internet PhoneJack PCI linux edition
> 

Have you tried with ohphone?

> regards,
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> G.723.1 is automaticall selected when you are using the Quicknet card.

OK, that helps, thanks.

Now I am back to using a full-duplex sound card with mic and speakers.  I
have managed to work out that when speaking to a Netmeeting client, my
voice sounds slow and audio sent from the Netmeeting client sounds fast.  
They are agreeing on the uLaw codec.

Any ideas on how to proceed?

Thanks, Ben


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Am Freitag, 13. Dezember 2002 12:09 schrieb Damien Sandras:

> > > Incidentally, what Quicknet card are you using?
> >
> > Internet PhoneJack PCI linux edition
>
> Have you tried with ohphone?

yes, exactly the same problem there. G.723.1{hw} codec is used for sending and 
recieving, but the sending quality is bad, so i guess its an openh323 bug ..

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Using G.711 is perhaps not the best idea. Try to permit ALaw only. Or
better, install the MS-GSM codec for Netmeeting (you can find a patch on
www.gnomemeeting.org).

However, I remember that there were some problems with OpenH323 a while
ago concerning the G.711 codec. I read that you are using GM 0.93 which
is pretty old. I would suggest that you use CVS version with updated
openh323 libraries. If you are using Redhat 8 or Debian, we can provide
you updated packages.


Le ven 13/12/2002 à 12:12, Ben Elliston a écrit :
> > G.723.1 is automaticall selected when you are using the Quicknet card.
> 
> OK, that helps, thanks.
> 
> Now I am back to using a full-duplex sound card with mic and speakers.  I
> have managed to work out that when speaking to a Netmeeting client, my
> voice sounds slow and audio sent from the Netmeeting client sounds fast.  
> They are agreeing on the uLaw codec.
> 
> Any ideas on how to proceed?
> 
> Thanks, Ben
> 
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> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
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Le ven 13/12/2002 à 12:27, Michael Glauche a écrit :
> 
> yes, exactly the same problem there. G.723.1{hw} codec is used for sending and 
> recieving, but the sending quality is bad, so i guess its an openh323 bug ..

In that case I think you should mail openh323@openh323.org , they would
be interested to help to debug that quicknet problem. Using G.723.1{hw}
should always give good quality...
It is a good news for me, but I think that problem should be fixed...


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I'm back in the stuff, guys.
I do have now a much powerfull and useable FW linux box, with a dual
screen switch that let me run XWindow in a much more powerfull way.

I plugged again my philips 740k webcam.
I created again the devices, with user rafa in the group video and
audio.
But It dont function.
could anybody check my rights ?
nexus:/home/rafa# ls -lat /dev/video*
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     video          11 Dec 10 20:48 /dev/video ->
/dev/video0
crw-rw-rw-    1 root     video     81,   0 Dec 10 20:48 /dev/video0
crw-rw-rw-    1 root     video     81,   2 Dec 10 20:41 /dev/video2
crw-rw-rw-    1 root     video     81,   1 Dec 10 20:41 /dev/video1

I didn't find anymore the answer to this question in the FAQ. I remember
it was. I run a plain old woody, with no mix SID/woody right now. I'm
plannig to let gnomemeeting run SID side, in order to run a much up to
date version. So right now, I run GM 0.12.2, that seems to be very old.

Another question absolutly off topic, but I remember that there is much
Debian addicts here: How could I tell apt to get gnomemeeting in sid
package ?
I'll put the answers here if I find it meanwhile.

	Rafa aka Tristan




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Le ven 13/12/2002 à 16:53, Rafael Pinilla a écrit :
> I plugged again my philips 740k webcam.
> I created again the devices, with user rafa in the group video and
> audio.
> But It dont function.

Can you be more precise?


> I didn't find anymore the answer to this question in the FAQ. I remember
> it was. I run a plain old woody, with no mix SID/woody right now. I'm

Such things were removed from the FAQ because we decided to only provide
help about GnomeMeeting on the FAQ and not on generic Linux installation
problems. Audio and video problems are more related to your distribution
than to GnomeMeeting itself.

> plannig to let gnomemeeting run SID side, in order to run a much up to
> date version. So right now, I run GM 0.12.2, that seems to be very old.

Wow! Yes, GnomeMeeting 0.12.2 is more than one year old !

> Another question absolutly off topic, but I remember that there is much
> Debian addicts here: How could I tell apt to get gnomemeeting in sid
> package ?

Change your stable lines to unstable in /etc/apt/sources.list, apt-get
update, apt-get install gnomemeeting .

> I'll put the answers here if I find it meanwhile.
> 
> 	Rafa aka Tristan
> 
> 
> 
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Hi,
 Please do not use mic and speakers.

  The echo canceller in the quicknet cards is not perfect.

 You will find an improvement in quality if you use headphones.

Derek.
============
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Ben Elliston wrote:

> > G.723.1 is automaticall selected when you are using the Quicknet card.
> 
> OK, that helps, thanks.
> 
> Now I am back to using a full-duplex sound card with mic and speakers.  I
> have managed to work out that when speaking to a Netmeeting client, my
> voice sounds slow and audio sent from the Netmeeting client sounds fast.  
> They are agreeing on the uLaw codec.
> 
> Any ideas on how to proceed?
> 
> Thanks, Ben
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
> 
> 

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Ben,

 There are other emails on this list about headphones or speakers.

 In my experience, there has always been an improvement in voice quality 
 when changing from speakers to something else (headphones or handset)

==
As far as jitter buffer size, TRY a bigger value. I have no idea what your 
network latency is. I am not a crystal ball gazing psychic to know what
will work for you.
200 ms "should" be enough, but 400ms will most probably be enough.

Is there any difference in quality (apart from latency) if you switch from 
200 to 400ms?

1000ms will be enough for all but the most patholigical of networks.
TRY different values.

===

Finally, before the various experts on this list criticise the openh323 
code, remember this:
Craig and Robert use openh323 code (plus quicknet cards) to talk all the
time between Australia, England, America and New Zealand. If the code was
faulty, would they fix it? yes. I suggest the problem is elsewhere.

The real check is:
  Do you have the same quality problems if you use ohphone?

There may be a configuration issue for your machine.
Good luck on finding this: you have to battle gconf, the quicknet kernel 
module, library versions, and gnomemeeting versions.


Derek.
=======================
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Ben Elliston wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> >   1) sound collection device
> >       a microphone and headphones is best.
> 
> Why would I want to use a mic and headphones if I have a Quicknet card 
> with echo cancellation?  Isn't that superior?
> 
> >   2) Increase your jitter buffer size.
> 
> I increased it to 200ms -- enough?
> 
> >   3)  Select G723.1 codec.
> 
> I don't have a G723.1 codec.  Perhaps I'm using a slightly older version.  
> I am using 0.93.1.  Or am I doing something wrong?
> 
> > Incidentally, what Quicknet card are you using?
> 
> PhoneJACK.
> 
> Ben
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hi,

I test yesterday with Jeff and Truong and others ... :
-everybody can hear me and very clearly,
-with some I can hear, but with too poor quality,
-with others I can hear but with many cuts,
-and with other I cannot hear ...

my sound card seems ok for configuration.
speakers and micro (for micro test for recording =3D ok)
I have the ATRSD processus.
if I remove ATRSD =3D same !

I use 0.93 GM on MDK 9.0

thanks

Antoine Wach=E9

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We already discussed that problem many times with you, your problem is
simple, you are using PPP.

A ppp connection is not enough to have a good quality. 

Le sam 14/12/2002 à 11:51, antoine a écrit :
> hi,
> 
> I test yesterday with Jeff and Truong and others ... :
> -everybody can hear me and very clearly,
> -with some I can hear, but with too poor quality,
> -with others I can hear but with many cuts,
> -and with other I cannot hear ...
> 
> my sound card seems ok for configuration.
> speakers and micro (for micro test for recording = ok)
> I have the ATRSD processus.
> if I remove ATRSD = same !
> 
> I use 0.93 GM on MDK 9.0
> 
> thanks
> 
> Antoine Waché
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
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Le sam 14/12/2002 à 13:48, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> We already discussed that problem many times with you, your problem is
> simple, you are using PPP.
> 
> A ppp connection is not enough to have a good quality. 

More precisely: a ppp connection with a simple modem is not enough. An
adsl ppp connection is enough.

You (AW, not Damien) have to understand that you need bandwith to
send/receive data. You tell us that with some you have good sound and
others a bad sound... I would say it doesn't really depend on with whom
you connect, but when, ie if you're connected at 56000 it will be better
than at 28800...

Using gnomemeeting with adsl (on both sides), you can have both
video&sound, but you can't have them both perfect (perfect sound and
50fps full quality). There is always a tradeoff.

On a lan, you can do what you want...

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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Hi Everyone:
For the last two weeks or so the server at ils.seconix.com gives me a message 
about having to register before seeing other users. However it appears that I 
AM registered. I get the "successfully regeistered to ils.seconix.com" 
message when starting gnomemeeting and another "successful logoff" message 
when quitting! (The registering is set in my preferences).
Anyone know what could be wrong?
Thanks for any help!


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Hello,

Some people have reported the same problem using old versions of
GnomeMeeting.

However we don't know what the problem can be as some of the GM testers
have confirmed that it was working even with old versions, we suggest
you to upgrade your old gnomemeeting version to a newer one (in the 0.9x
serie).


Le sam 14/12/2002 à 11:21, Will Lehman a écrit :
> Hi Everyone:
> For the last two weeks or so the server at ils.seconix.com gives me a message 
> about having to register before seeing other users. However it appears that I 
> AM registered. I get the "successfully regeistered to ils.seconix.com" 
> message when starting gnomemeeting and another "successful logoff" message 
> when quitting! (The registering is set in my preferences).
> Anyone know what could be wrong?
> Thanks for any help!
> 
> _______________________________________________
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I am using the version 0.94.1 so I guess it must be some other problem.=20
Unfortunately, I can't think of anything specific thing I've done (firewa=
ll,=20
settings, etc) in the mean time to cause the error. I will keep fiddling =
and=20
if I figure it out I'll let the list know.
Thanks
=20
On Saturday 14 December 2002 03:26 pm, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Some people have reported the same problem using old versions of
> GnomeMeeting.
>
> However we don't know what the problem can be as some of the GM testers
> have confirmed that it was working even with old versions, we suggest
> you to upgrade your old gnomemeeting version to a newer one (in the 0.9=
x
> serie).
>
> Le sam 14/12/2002 =E0 11:21, Will Lehman a =E9crit :
> > Hi Everyone:
> > For the last two weeks or so the server at ils.seconix.com gives me a
> > message about having to register before seeing other users. However i=
t
> > appears that I AM registered. I get the "successfully regeistered to
> > ils.seconix.com" message when starting gnomemeeting and another
> > "successful logoff" message when quitting! (The registering is set in=
 my
> > preferences).
> > Anyone know what could be wrong?
> > Thanks for any help!
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list


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While trying to run gnomemeeting 0.85, I receive the following error:

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Upgrading to 0.95 is not an option.  I'm open to any other suggestions.

Anne Racel



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On Saturday 14 December 2002 18:49, Anne Racel wrote:
> While trying to run gnomemeeting 0.85, I receive the following error:
>
> gnomemeeting: relocation error: gnomemeeting: undefined symbol:
> __vt_Q29PIPSocket14InterfaceTable
>
> Upgrading to 0.95 is not an option.  I'm open to any other suggestions.
>
> Anne Racel
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list

Why is upgrading not an option?

Pablo


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Le sam 14/12/2002 à 11:48, Will Lehman a écrit :
> I am using the version 0.94.1 so I guess it must be some other problem. 
> Unfortunately, I can't think of anything specific thing I've done (firewall, 
> settings, etc) in the mean time to cause the error. I will keep fiddling and 
> if I figure it out I'll let the list know.


I have checked in the logs for your email, for your firstname and for
your lastname, and nothing in the last week.

Nobody has ever had problems to register using 0.94.1 (except if you are
using some special international charachters).

> Thanks
>  
> On Saturday 14 December 2002 03:26 pm, Damien Sandras wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Some people have reported the same problem using old versions of
> > GnomeMeeting.
> >
> > However we don't know what the problem can be as some of the GM testers
> > have confirmed that it was working even with old versions, we suggest
> > you to upgrade your old gnomemeeting version to a newer one (in the 0.9x
> > serie).
> >
> > Le sam 14/12/2002 à 11:21, Will Lehman a écrit :
> > > Hi Everyone:
> > > For the last two weeks or so the server at ils.seconix.com gives me a
> > > message about having to register before seeing other users. However it
> > > appears that I AM registered. I get the "successfully regeistered to
> > > ils.seconix.com" message when starting gnomemeeting and another
> > > "successful logoff" message when quitting! (The registering is set in my
> > > preferences).
> > > Anyone know what could be wrong?
> > > Thanks for any help!
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
-- 
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Le sam 14/12/2002 à 18:49, Anne Racel a écrit :
> While trying to run gnomemeeting 0.85, I receive the following error:
> 
> gnomemeeting: relocation error: gnomemeeting: undefined symbol: 
> __vt_Q29PIPSocket14InterfaceTable
> 
> Upgrading to 0.95 is not an option.  I'm open to any other suggestions.
> 

It means that you forced and broke dependancies when installing the
packages. Try to install things in a clean way.

> Anne Racel
> 
> 
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> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
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OK, that helped: There was an invalid email address in my settings and ma=
ybe=20
that was the problem? In anycase, after fixing the email, I was able to l=
og=20
in correctly.
Thanks!

On Saturday 14 December 2002 06:09 pm, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Le sam 14/12/2002 =E0 11:48, Will Lehman a =E9crit :
> > I am using the version 0.94.1 so I guess it must be some other proble=
m.
> > Unfortunately, I can't think of anything specific thing I've done
> > (firewall, settings, etc) in the mean time to cause the error. I will
> > keep fiddling and if I figure it out I'll let the list know.
>
> I have checked in the logs for your email, for your firstname and for
> your lastname, and nothing in the last week.
>
> Nobody has ever had problems to register using 0.94.1 (except if you ar=
e
> using some special international charachters).
>
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Saturday 14 December 2002 03:26 pm, Damien Sandras wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Some people have reported the same problem using old versions of
> > > GnomeMeeting.
> > >
> > > However we don't know what the problem can be as some of the GM tes=
ters
> > > have confirmed that it was working even with old versions, we sugge=
st
> > > you to upgrade your old gnomemeeting version to a newer one (in the
> > > 0.9x serie).
> > >
> > > Le sam 14/12/2002 =E0 11:21, Will Lehman a =E9crit :
> > > > Hi Everyone:
> > > > For the last two weeks or so the server at ils.seconix.com gives =
me a
> > > > message about having to register before seeing other users. Howev=
er
> > > > it appears that I AM registered. I get the "successfully regeiste=
red
> > > > to ils.seconix.com" message when starting gnomemeeting and anothe=
r
> > > > "successful logoff" message when quitting! (The registering is se=
t in
> > > > my preferences).
> > > > Anyone know what could be wrong?
> > > > Thanks for any help!
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > > > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list


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I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or ldap 
server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting. The FAQ says 
this is possible starting in version .94 using XDAP, but I haven't been able 
to find exact instructions on how to do this anywhere on the web. Could 
someone please offer assistance?
(I know this is not recommended--this is for experiment only!)
Thanks!!!


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Le dim 15/12/2002 à 13:31, Will Lehman a écrit :
> I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or ldap 
> server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting. The FAQ says 
> this is possible starting in version .94 using XDAP, but I haven't been able 
> to find exact instructions on how to do this anywhere on the web. Could 
> someone please offer assistance?
> (I know this is not recommended--this is for experiment only!)
> Thanks!!!

I don't know how to do it with XDAP, but I'm sure you can do it with a
little tampering of the sources...

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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Le dim 15/12/2002 à 13:31, Will Lehman a écrit :
> I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or ldap 
> server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting. The FAQ says 
> this is possible starting in version .94 using XDAP, but I haven't been able 
> to find exact instructions on how to do this anywhere on the web. Could 
> someone please offer assistance?
> (I know this is not recommended--this is for experiment only!)
> Thanks!!!

You have to modify the xml files in /usr/share/gnomemeeting/xdap 
it is rather easy, but not recommended...

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% *** Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> wrote: ***
% Le dim 15/12/2002 =E0 13:31, Will Lehman a =E9crit :
% > I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or l=
dap=20
% > server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting.

Just a curious question: could you give me a reason of your choice of
the name 'ms-meeting' instead of 'gnomemeeting', pls ?


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Le dim 15/12/2002 à 19:13, Truong a écrit :
> % *** Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> wrote: ***
> % Le dim 15/12/2002 à 13:31, Will Lehman a écrit :
> % > I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or ldap 
> % > server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting.
> 
> Just a curious question: could you give me a reason of your choice of
> the name 'ms-meeting' instead of 'gnomemeeting', pls ?

When netmeeting connects to an ils server, it always search and list
other netmeeting clients. Hence all netmeeting users don't know about
non-netmeeting users. Only ils.seconix.com has been patched to forget
that particular (and antipathic) search key. Hence it could make sense
to appear as a netmeeting on other servers.

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Hi Julien,

% *** PUYDT Julien <julien.puydt@laposte.net> wrote: ***
% Le dim 15/12/2002 =E0 19:13, Truong a =E9crit :
% > % *** Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> wrote: ***
% > % Le dim 15/12/2002 =E0 13:31, Will Lehman a =E9crit :
% > % > I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils =
or ldap=20
% > % > server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting.
% >=20
% > Just a curious question: could you give me a reason of your choice of
% > the name 'ms-meeting' instead of 'gnomemeeting', pls ?
%=20
% When netmeeting connects to an ils server, it always search and list
% other netmeeting clients.

You mean Netmeeting accepts to communicate only with "any" H.323 client
which has a name "ms-netmeeting" in an ILS server ? (As I'am not sure if
I understood it well).


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Le dim 15/12/2002 à 19:47, Truong a écrit :

> You mean Netmeeting accepts to communicate only with "any" H.323 client
> which has a name "ms-netmeeting" in an ILS server ? (As I'am not sure if
> I understood it well).

No, I mean when a nm user asks the list of all users matching a
condition (name=toto or nothing) in an ils server, nm silently adds the
condition "using netmeeting". If the server is honest (ie not
ils.seconix.com), it will then give a list where gnomemeeting users
won't appear.

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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% *** PUYDT Julien <julien.puydt@laposte.net> wrote: ***
% Le dim 15/12/2002 =E0 19:47, Truong a =E9crit :
%=20
% > You mean Netmeeting accepts to communicate only with "any" H.323 client
% > which has a name "ms-netmeeting" in an ILS server ? (As I'am not sure if
% > I understood it well).
%=20
% No, I mean when a nm user asks the list of all users matching a
% condition (name=3Dtoto or nothing) in an ils server, nm silently adds the
% condition "using netmeeting". If the server is honest (ie not
% ils.seconix.com), it will then give a list where gnomemeeting users
% won't appear.
%=20

I understand better now the way NM searches its partners in an ils server.

Thanks for your explains, Julien.

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Hi, just new to VOIP and found gnomemeeting - turns out I've had it for a while on
my distro's CD and didn't even know it

Being new to VOIP, I first started with MSN Messenger since some of the guys in the
office were using it anyway but found that my Linux router's firewall was creating
trouble with the UPnP data system that it uses.

I'm looking for a cross platform (windows 98 and linux) application to improve
communications between our two SOHO offices.  Gnomemeeting and netmeeting look like
two that might work for us

Also, I wanted something that had the potential to tie into a full office wide VOIP
system since I think the future is in that direction (we currently use a Nortel
Norstar system at one site and just simple two line phones at the other site)

I've read a bunch of web pags and HOWTOs and feel that I have the general idea of
how the system works, although trying to pick the actual software packages to use
has left me bewildered (partly I think because some of the articles I've read date
back a  couple of years and I think the software has changed since then)

Anyway, my general understanding is that I can establish two way VOIP calling with
gnomemeeting through my DSL connection.  With the addition of some software, I can
create a private directory to map users to dynamic IP addresses.

Also, additional software and hardware (like the Quicknet phonejack) will allow me
to replace my soundcard, speaker, and mic system with a telephone handset

With other hardware (like the Quicknet linejack) and other software I can actually
bridge between the IP and regular phone line systems

I have a couple of questions that will help me as I try to plan ahead:
- how practical is it to use a VOIP phone system inside a one storey, one location
office? (I'd need an interface card of some type for each phone extension and each
line coming in right?)
- are the VOIP phones essentially the same type of system as a analog phone plugged
into a phonejack card?
- is there a system for linux that could tie in with VOIP to let others on the
system know when someone has logged in (like MSN Messenger for instance)

Also, could someone point me towards a current howto for setting up some of the
more advanced features (while sticking to my soundcard and headset system for now)


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Damien:
THanks for the quick reply! If you could, please give me a hint about wha=
t=20
exactly to change in these files? I have looked at them and don't see an=20
obvious solution (I guess it has something to do with sappid, but there's=
 no=20
line such as "sappid=3Dgnomemeeting" that I could change!
Sorry for the ignorance, but these xml files are a bit more complicated t=
han=20
the config files I'm used to seeing!
Thanks,
Will Lehman


On Sunday 15 December 2002 05:59 pm, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Le dim 15/12/2002 =E0 13:31, Will Lehman a =E9crit :
> > I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or
> > ldap server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting. Th=
e
> > FAQ says this is possible starting in version .94 using XDAP, but I
> > haven't been able to find exact instructions on how to do this anywhe=
re
> > on the web. Could someone please offer assistance?
> > (I know this is not recommended--this is for experiment only!)
> > Thanks!!!
>
> You have to modify the xml files in /usr/share/gnomemeeting/xdap
> it is rather easy, but not recommended...
>
> > _______________________________________________
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> > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list


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Le dim 15/12/2002 à 23:59, Will Lehman a écrit :
> Damien:
> THanks for the quick reply! If you could, please give me a hint about what 
> exactly to change in these files? I have looked at them and don't see an 

Each line represents an attribute, for example :
<sappid>&sappid</sappid> will use the sappid provided by GnomeMeeting as
ILS sappid attribute.

The lines beginning by <!ENTITY are sort of constants, if you put a line
like <!ENTITY sappid "ms-netmeeting">, ms-netmeeting will always be used
as attribute value whatever the value provided by the application.

You might have other things to change than the sappid attribute, but it
is the only one I can think of for now. We advise you to not register on
ILS servers using a fake ms-netmeeting ID. Thanks,


> obvious solution (I guess it has something to do with sappid, but there's no 
> line such as "sappid=gnomemeeting" that I could change!
> Sorry for the ignorance, but these xml files are a bit more complicated than 
> the config files I'm used to seeing!
> Thanks,
> Will Lehman
> 
> 
> On Sunday 15 December 2002 05:59 pm, Damien Sandras wrote:
> > Le dim 15/12/2002 à 13:31, Will Lehman a écrit :
> > > I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or
> > > ldap server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting. The
> > > FAQ says this is possible starting in version .94 using XDAP, but I
> > > haven't been able to find exact instructions on how to do this anywhere
> > > on the web. Could someone please offer assistance?
> > > (I know this is not recommended--this is for experiment only!)
> > > Thanks!!!
> >
> > You have to modify the xml files in /usr/share/gnomemeeting/xdap
> > it is rather easy, but not recommended...
> >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
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Le lun 16/12/2002 à 04:34, Brian Johnson a écrit :
> Hi, just new to VOIP and found gnomemeeting - turns out I've had it for a while on
> my distro's CD and didn't even know it
> 


> Anyway, my general understanding is that I can establish two way VOIP calling with
> gnomemeeting through my DSL connection.  With the addition of some software, I can
> create a private directory to map users to dynamic IP addresses.
> 

Using either an ILS directory, or better, an H323 Gatekeeper.

> Also, additional software and hardware (like the Quicknet phonejack) will allow me
> to replace my soundcard, speaker, and mic system with a telephone handset
> 

Right :)

> With other hardware (like the Quicknet linejack) and other software I can actually
> bridge between the IP and regular phone line systems
> 

Yes, and you can also use external services providers.

> I have a couple of questions that will help me as I try to plan ahead:
> - how practical is it to use a VOIP phone system inside a one storey, one location
> office? (I'd need an interface card of some type for each phone extension and each
> line coming in right?)

Yes I think so too, but I'm not an expert in gateways. However, you can
try ISDN to H.323 gateways like this one :
http://www.telos.de/linux/H323/default_e.htm
but better ask on their mailing list for gateway related information.

> - are the VOIP phones essentially the same type of system as a analog phone plugged
> into a phonejack card?

Yes, it is essentially a well-integrated VOIP hardware system.

> - is there a system for linux that could tie in with VOIP to let others on the
> system know when someone has logged in (like MSN Messenger for instance)
> 

I don't think so. When someone logs in, the MSN server sends a message,
but with ILS and gatekeepers, you can't do that. 

> Also, could someone point me towards a current howto for setting up some of the
> more advanced features (while sticking to my soundcard and headset system for now)
> 

Perhaps try to find on google "Linux VOIP Howto", this Howto is not very
complete yet, but it is a good start.
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Le Samedi 14 D=E9cembre 2002 12:48, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> We already discussed that problem many times with you, your problem is
> simple, you are using PPP.
> A ppp connection is not enough to have a good quality.
---------------------------------
I don't follow all the discussions "poor audio quality",
so sorry to ask with this question :
what I have to add more than ppp ... ?
(I'm under a RTC modem)
may be with an ADSL connection, it will work better ...
thanks
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hai,
     i am new to gnomemeeting. i am using redhat7.2
and webcam is intel create and share. i am using the
module spca50x.my webcam works fine under gqcam
package. when i run gnomemeeting it tells that video
device were opened and also the test image was
transmitted.but i couldn't see  the test image.Help me
to come out this problem. 
         Thanking you 


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Le lun 16/12/2002 à 12:46, antoine a écrit :
> Le Samedi 14 Décembre 2002 12:48, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> > We already discussed that problem many times with you, your problem is
> > simple, you are using PPP.
> > A ppp connection is not enough to have a good quality.
> ---------------------------------
> I don't follow all the discussions "poor audio quality",
> so sorry to ask with this question :
> what I have to add more than ppp ... ?
> (I'm under a RTC modem)
> may be with an ADSL connection, it will work better ...
> thanks
> antoine 

RTC is/should be enough as long as none of the sides is sending video,
but I guess it depends much of the time when you connect.
If one of the sides is sending video; you need ADSL.


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Le lun 16/12/2002 à 12:17, prem kannan a écrit :
> hai,
>      i am new to gnomemeeting. i am using redhat7.2
> and webcam is intel create and share. i am using the
> module spca50x.my webcam works fine under gqcam
> package. when i run gnomemeeting it tells that video
> device were opened and also the test image was
> transmitted.but i couldn't see  the test image.Help me
> to come out this problem. 
>          Thanking you 

I'm not sure I understand your question.
The test image is automatically displayed when you enable video preview
and that there is a problem while opening the video device.
Here is help for you:

http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3&pos=0#AEN291

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> RTC is/should be enough as long as none of the sides is sending video,
> but I guess it depends much of the time when you connect.
> If one of the sides is sending video; you need ADSL.
------------------------------
I will see it later when i'm under ADSL ...  soon !
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On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 21:26, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Le lun 16/12/2002 =E0 12:17, prem kannan a =E9crit :
> > hai,
> >      i am new to gnomemeeting. i am using redhat7.2
> > and webcam is intel create and share. i am using the
> > module spca50x.my webcam works fine under gqcam
> > package. when i run gnomemeeting it tells that video
> > device were opened and also the test image was
> > transmitted.but i couldn't see  the test image.Help me
> > to come out this problem.=20
> >          Thanking you=20
>=20
There is a patch that has been put in the version of pwlib that has been
compiled with GM 0.94.1 for the spca50x driver so it knows what color
format to use.  if your using a version of GM Prior to this you will
need to either patch your pwlib. or update to gm 0.94.1  which on a RH
7.2 system will involve a gnome libs update. i can supply you with the
patch you need if thats what you want to do. what is the cs number of
the camera?  the cs430 needs alot of light to get a proper image not
sure about the cs330 havent tested mine much yet.

Dennis

> I'm not sure I understand your question.
> The test image is automatically displayed when you enable video preview
> and that there is a problem while opening the video device.
> Here is help for you:
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Please find attached a fairly simple patch (against the 0.94.1 tree) that adds
another capture size to GnomeMeeting.

This capture size I have named "Small (Scaled)".  Its function is simple; it
captures the image from the camera at CIF resolution, then, after conditioning
by H323VideoDevice::Redraw, it scales the image down to QCIF for
display/transmission.  

On my Logitech QuickCam Web, this improves QCIF image quality dramatically.  I'm
not sure if others have the same problems that I do; perhaps it's a driver- or
hardware-specific problem. To see the effect without applying the patch, compare
the QCIF image at regular (100%) zoom to the CIF image zoomed out to 50%
(without bilinear interpolation).  This is the image that my patch gives at 100%.

Does this seem useful to anyone else?  If not, Damien, don't feel compelled to
apply it.  It's rather hackish; a more elegant solution would have required
moving some code around.  It's certainly something I will continue to maintain,
because it makes GnomeMeeting that much more usable for me over slow links.

Regards,
Brian Teague


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Brian,

I have the same camera that you do.  I haven't been able to get it to talk
to my system.  Please share your config - OS, version, hardware, drivers,
...

Thanks

Les

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Please find attached a fairly simple patch (against the 0.94.1 tree) that
adds
another capture size to GnomeMeeting.

This capture size I have named "Small (Scaled)".  Its function is simple; it
captures the image from the camera at CIF resolution, then, after
conditioning
by H323VideoDevice::Redraw, it scales the image down to QCIF for
display/transmission.  

On my Logitech QuickCam Web, this improves QCIF image quality dramatically.
I'm
not sure if others have the same problems that I do; perhaps it's a driver-
or
hardware-specific problem. To see the effect without applying the patch,
compare
the QCIF image at regular (100%) zoom to the CIF image zoomed out to 50%
(without bilinear interpolation).  This is the image that my patch gives at
100%.

Does this seem useful to anyone else?  If not, Damien, don't feel compelled
to
apply it.  It's rather hackish; a more elegant solution would have required
moving some code around.  It's certainly something I will continue to
maintain,
because it makes GnomeMeeting that much more usable for me over slow links.

Regards,
Brian Teague



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Le mar 17/12/2002 à 19:59, bteague@rice.edu a écrit :
> Please find attached a fairly simple patch (against the 0.94.1 tree) that adds
> another capture size to GnomeMeeting.
> 
> This capture size I have named "Small (Scaled)".  Its function is simple; it
> captures the image from the camera at CIF resolution, then, after conditioning
> by H323VideoDevice::Redraw, it scales the image down to QCIF for
> display/transmission.  
> 
Hello Brian,

Unfortunately, as I understand the patch, it only scales the picture
when displaying it, not for transmission. You would have the exact same
result by choosing to transmit "Large", and scaling down the image to
50%. If I understand your patch correctly of course.

If you are still interested in developing a patch to be able to make
your driver capture in CIF, but to transmit a QCIF scaled down image, it
has to be done in pwlib. It is of course very interesting to do because
that way, cameras supporting QSIF (160x120), could scale up the image to
QCIF (176x144) before sending the picture.

Let me know if you are interested in doing this, and I will guide you
through the code, it is very uncommon to find people willing to help.

Thanks,



> On my Logitech QuickCam Web, this improves QCIF image quality dramatically.  I'm
> not sure if others have the same problems that I do; perhaps it's a driver- or
> hardware-specific problem. To see the effect without applying the patch, compare
> the QCIF image at regular (100%) zoom to the CIF image zoomed out to 50%
> (without bilinear interpolation).  This is the image that my patch gives at 100%.
> 
> Does this seem useful to anyone else?  If not, Damien, don't feel compelled to
> apply it.  It's rather hackish; a more elegant solution would have required
> moving some code around.  It's certainly something I will continue to maintain,
> because it makes GnomeMeeting that much more usable for me over slow links.
> 
> Regards,
> Brian Teague
-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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There are lots of documentation you should read at www.gnomemeeting.org.
If after that reading you still have problems using the software, i
suggest you to mail gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org with your problems, were
lots of people will be able to help you.

Thank you for trying GnomeMeeting.

El mar, 17-12-2002 a las 22:20, Boi Roig Roig escribió:
> Hello,
> 
>     I'm Boi Roig Roig.
> 
>         I wish to run this software using my webcam, but I have no help 
> files. GnomeMeeting logs "no gatekeeper found" and I can't find someone 
> because says that I am not registered.
> 
> Where could I found help, and where could I register me?
> 
> 
-- 
Miguel Rodríguez Pérez <migrax@terra.es>


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> Hello Brian,
> 
> Unfortunately, as I understand the patch, it only scales the picture
> when displaying it, not for transmission. 

Yes.  I noticed that.  I was so excited to finally have local video looking good
that I forgot to check the transmitted result.

> 
> If you are still interested in developing a patch to be able to make
> your driver capture in CIF, but to transmit a QCIF scaled down image, it
> has to be done in pwlib. It is of course very interesting to do because
> that way, cameras supporting QSIF (160x120), could scale up the image to
> QCIF (176x144) before sending the picture.

I think arbitrary scaling of the transmitted video (ie, from an arbitrary frame
size to CIF or QCIF) sounds like a good idea.  Unforunately, I was using
Gdk-pixbuf to do the actual scaling, which means I'd have to actually implement
the scaler myself.  Or does PWLib have it somewhere already?

> 
> Let me know if you are interested in doing this, and I will guide you
> through the code, it is very uncommon to find people willing to help.

Certainly.

At first, I tried doing it in videograbber.cpp, in the main loop between
channel->Read() and channel->Write().  The implementation was really clean, but
the results were horrible; apparently, H323VideoDevice::Redraw() does some
conditioning of the image that makes it scale better.  (Or is it just that the
image data between channel->Read() and channel->Write() isn't in RGB format yet,
and so a simple box filter doesn't work?  I couldn't really tell.)

I'd be more than happy to work on a more general-purpose version of this
concept... as long as it still works in the special case for which I attempted
to write it in the first place.  (-;

Thanks!

Brian


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> I think arbitrary scaling of the transmitted video (ie, from an arbitrary frame
> size to CIF or QCIF) sounds like a good idea.  Unforunately, I was using
> Gdk-pixbuf to do the actual scaling, which means I'd have to actually implement
> the scaler myself.  Or does PWLib have it somewhere already?
> 

No, PWLib is only able to "crop" the image. So if a given webcam can
only capture in CIF mode, only a part of the CIF picture will be
transmitted in QCIF mode. If you are interested to work on this in pwlib
itself, I think it would be a good contribution to gnomemeeting and
OpenH323, but it won't be easy.

If you want, you can already have a look in
pwlib/src/ptlib/unix/video4linux.cxx and perhaps rewrite the function
that crops picture to resize it instead. but again, that won't be easy.
You can perhaps reuse some code from gdk_pixbuf to achieve it.



> > 
> > Let me know if you are interested in doing this, and I will guide you
> > through the code, it is very uncommon to find people willing to help.
> 

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Le mer 18/12/2002 à 14:33, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> You can perhaps reuse some code from gdk_pixbuf to achieve it.

Beware of the license of the code...

Snark


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Hi,

I have the same problem with getting almost instantly disconnected
(also the closing / opening of videodevice message) when attempting a
connection to a Netmeeting whatever version it may be (I tried against
Netmeeting 2.11 and 3.01). I will try to describe what I tried till
now:

I have the camera installed on the firewall of my network, which is a
Mandrake 9.0. Same symptom remains also when firewall is disabled
completely and a portscan on myself showed no blocking of any ports. So
firewall is not an issue.I tried both with Gnomemeeting 93.1 and 94.1.

I tried against a WinXp NetMeeting 3.01 and a Win98SE 2.11 and still
same. Tried to kill the sound server but still no go.

But I did find out one funny thing.

If the other person disables the videotransmission, then it works. It
works meaning that he can see me and hear me and I can hear him. As
soon as he starts the video transmission from his netmeeting,
connection is lost. In most cases I see in my call logs "The other
party has cleared the connection.".

I don't know if knowing that without video transmission from the
NetMeeting end works will help, but thought I'd share it. If anyone can
instruct me how to start both NetMeeting and Gnomemeeting with debug
output I would appreciate it. Maybe I can provide some more input on
what is happening.

BTW, me and the other guy have both A-DSL 768/128 Kb dl/ul. So I don't
think speed is a prob. On the other hand I succesfully connected to
other persons running Gnomemeeting.

Tweaking any possible settings including video quality and FPS
limitation didn't help at all (and beleive me when I say that for the
last 2 days I tried everything I could change in the configs/options
and searched the entire net for solutions). And BTW, disable video
and/or audio on my side didn't change a thing. The connection breaks as
soon as the NetMeeting user turns on video transmission.

Best regards,
Adrian Golumbovici

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Le mer 18/12/2002 à 17:10, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :

many things, but I'll take only that line:
> So firewall is not an issue
you only proved it wasn't an issue on YOUR side... what about the other
side?

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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You can run gnomemeeting with --debug=3 and see.
But, given the fact that:
- GnomeMeeting indicates that Netmeeting clears the call
- the problem disappear if the the Netmeeting user doesn't transmit
video
- the problem doesn't disappear if you disable video transmission
- you have no problems with other GnomeMeeting users

I would say that the Netmeeting is faulty and for one reason or another
decides that it can't transmit video. The problem is to discover *why*
Netmeeting suddenly decides to stop the connection. I think GnomeMeeting
can't do anything to prevent it if the Netmeeting disconnects.



Le mer 18/12/2002 à 17:10, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I have the same problem with getting almost instantly disconnected
> (also the closing / opening of videodevice message) when attempting a
> connection to a Netmeeting whatever version it may be (I tried against
> Netmeeting 2.11 and 3.01). I will try to describe what I tried till
> now:
> 
> I have the camera installed on the firewall of my network, which is a
> Mandrake 9.0. Same symptom remains also when firewall is disabled
> completely and a portscan on myself showed no blocking of any ports. So
> firewall is not an issue.I tried both with Gnomemeeting 93.1 and 94.1.
> 
> I tried against a WinXp NetMeeting 3.01 and a Win98SE 2.11 and still
> same. Tried to kill the sound server but still no go.
> 
> But I did find out one funny thing.
> 
> If the other person disables the videotransmission, then it works. It
> works meaning that he can see me and hear me and I can hear him. As
> soon as he starts the video transmission from his netmeeting,
> connection is lost. In most cases I see in my call logs "The other
> party has cleared the connection.".
> 
> I don't know if knowing that without video transmission from the
> NetMeeting end works will help, but thought I'd share it. If anyone can
> instruct me how to start both NetMeeting and Gnomemeeting with debug
> output I would appreciate it. Maybe I can provide some more input on
> what is happening.
> 
> BTW, me and the other guy have both A-DSL 768/128 Kb dl/ul. So I don't
> think speed is a prob. On the other hand I succesfully connected to
> other persons running Gnomemeeting.
> 
> Tweaking any possible settings including video quality and FPS
> limitation didn't help at all (and beleive me when I say that for the
> last 2 days I tried everything I could change in the configs/options
> and searched the entire net for solutions). And BTW, disable video
> and/or audio on my side didn't change a thing. The connection breaks as
> soon as the NetMeeting user turns on video transmission.
> 
> Best regards,
> Adrian Golumbovici
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Oh well...

First of all on the other side there is a LAN but he is also on his =
gateway (WinXP). Firewall on his side is also disabled. The maximum a =
connection held was about 20 seconds. For about 0 to 5 seconds I can see =
him but suddenly connection drops.:/ So I guess his firewall is also out =
of the question.

I know it might be a Netmeeting problem, but I think it might be in =
relation with gnomemeeting or I wouldn't be posting in here in the first =
place.:)

As far as I know he had successfull connections with other netmeeting =
users. So I was wondering if any other user had same prob and found this =
list. At least in theory it should be compatible...

I waited for a year visiting each day the developer sites to see a OV518 =
based webcam driver and finally got it. Now I was just eager to use it.

I guess I could also try to buy another network card and try to install =
adsl driver on my win2k PC and see for myself if he really can connect =
netmeeting to netmeeting.

But as I am sick of M$ I just hoped that soon I can finally switch to =
linux forever....

Oh well... I will try to run gnomemeeting with debug and see if I can =
come up with better info on what happens...

In the mean time if anyone can think of a reason for which this is =
happening or had this prob and solved it, please let me know. :)

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh well...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>First of all on the other side there is =
a&nbsp;LAN=20
but he is also on his gateway (WinXP). Firewall on his side is also =
disabled.=20
The maximum a connection held was about 20 seconds. For about 0 to 5 =
seconds I=20
can see him but suddenly connection drops.:/ So I guess his firewall is =
also out=20
of the question.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know it might be a Netmeeting =
problem, but I=20
think it might be in relation with gnomemeeting or I wouldn't be posting =
in here=20
in the first place.:)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As far as I know he had successfull =
connections=20
with other netmeeting users. So I was wondering if any other user had =
same prob=20
and found this list. At least in theory it should be =
compatible...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I waited for a year visiting each day =
the developer=20
sites to see a OV518 based webcam driver and finally got it. Now I was =
just=20
eager to use it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I guess I could also try to buy another =
network=20
card and try to install adsl driver on my win2k PC and see for myself if =
he=20
really can connect netmeeting to netmeeting.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But as I am sick of M$ I just hoped =
that soon I can=20
finally switch to linux forever....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh well... I will try to run =
gnomemeeting with=20
debug and see if I can come up with better info on what =
happens...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In the mean time if anyone can think of =
a reason=20
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We had similar reports in the past and the problem was always because of
firewalls.

Now, try to capture the output of --debug=3 and send it to the list but
there is a big chance that we will only notice that Netmeeting simply
decided to disconnect. Make him double check all his settings. For
example, in his connection settings, make sure he is not telling to
Netmeeting that he has ppp connection or something like that. Try to ask
him to put "Lan" or something like that.

Also make sure that his firewall is really disabled.

Le mer 18/12/2002 à 19:05, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> Oh well...
>  
> First of all on the other side there is a LAN but he is also on his
> gateway (WinXP). Firewall on his side is also disabled. The maximum a
> connection held was about 20 seconds. For about 0 to 5 seconds I can
> see him but suddenly connection drops.:/ So I guess his firewall is
> also out of the question.
>  
> I know it might be a Netmeeting problem, but I think it might be in
> relation with gnomemeeting or I wouldn't be posting in here in the
> first place.:)
>  
> As far as I know he had successfull connections with other netmeeting
> users. So I was wondering if any other user had same prob and found
> this list. At least in theory it should be compatible...
>  
> I waited for a year visiting each day the developer sites to see a
> OV518 based webcam driver and finally got it. Now I was just eager to
> use it.
>  
> I guess I could also try to buy another network card and try to
> install adsl driver on my win2k PC and see for myself if he really can
> connect netmeeting to netmeeting.
>  
> But as I am sick of M$ I just hoped that soon I can finally switch to
> linux forever....
>  
> Oh well... I will try to run gnomemeeting with debug and see if I can
> come up with better info on what happens...
>  
> In the mean time if anyone can think of a reason for which this is
> happening or had this prob and solved it, please let me know. :)
>  
-- 
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ummm.... why putting ppp as his connection in Netmeeting might  create
probs?!?
and if firewall would be an issue, why would I still get at least 0-5
seconds of image from him?

I know a bit about firewalling (configured a few myself) but am not
declaring myself an expert. Still, getting only a part of the transmission
through a firewall doesn't make much sense...

P.S. As soon as I can get him to help me debug it I will post the results.

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> We had similar reports in the past and the problem was always because of
> firewalls.
>
> Now, try to capture the output of --debug=3 and send it to the list but
> there is a big chance that we will only notice that Netmeeting simply
> decided to disconnect. Make him double check all his settings. For
> example, in his connection settings, make sure he is not telling to
> Netmeeting that he has ppp connection or something like that. Try to ask
> him to put "Lan" or something like that.
>
> Also make sure that his firewall is really disabled.
>
> Le mer 18/12/2002 à 19:05, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> > Oh well...
> >
> > First of all on the other side there is a LAN but he is also on his
> > gateway (WinXP). Firewall on his side is also disabled. The maximum a
> > connection held was about 20 seconds. For about 0 to 5 seconds I can
> > see him but suddenly connection drops.:/ So I guess his firewall is
> > also out of the question.
> >
> > I know it might be a Netmeeting problem, but I think it might be in
> > relation with gnomemeeting or I wouldn't be posting in here in the
> > first place.:)
> >
> > As far as I know he had successfull connections with other netmeeting
> > users. So I was wondering if any other user had same prob and found
> > this list. At least in theory it should be compatible...
> >
> > I waited for a year visiting each day the developer sites to see a
> > OV518 based webcam driver and finally got it. Now I was just eager to
> > use it.
> >
> > I guess I could also try to buy another network card and try to
> > install adsl driver on my win2k PC and see for myself if he really can
> > connect netmeeting to netmeeting.
> >
> > But as I am sick of M$ I just hoped that soon I can finally switch to
> > linux forever....
> >
> > Oh well... I will try to run gnomemeeting with debug and see if I can
> > come up with better info on what happens...
> >
> > In the mean time if anyone can think of a reason for which this is
> > happening or had this prob and solved it, please let me know. :)
> >
> --
> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
>
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Le mer 18/12/2002 à 19:23, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> ummm.... why putting ppp as his connection in Netmeeting might  create
> probs?!?

For the same reason why using Windows might create probs? ;-)

> and if firewall would be an issue, why would I still get at least 0-5
> seconds of image from him?

Because it is outgoing traffic for him, outgoing traffic is rarely
firewalled, people usually only filter incoming traffic. The problem is
probably that his netmeeting doesn't receive any data from you, thus it
disconnects.
If it doesn't receive any data from you, either the data doesn't leave
your computer, or the data is dropped on his side.

> 
> I know a bit about firewalling (configured a few myself) but am not
> declaring myself an expert. Still, getting only a part of the transmission
> through a firewall doesn't make much sense...

Why not? Isn't it the purpose of firewalls to filter connections and to
accept some of them and reject others ?

> 
> P.S. As soon as I can get him to help me debug it I will post the results.
> 

-- 
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> > ummm.... why putting ppp as his connection in Netmeeting might  create
> > probs?!?
>
> For the same reason why using Windows might create probs? ;-)

Lol. You got a point there. ;)

>
> > and if firewall would be an issue, why would I still get at least 0-5
> > seconds of image from him?
>
> Because it is outgoing traffic for him, outgoing traffic is rarely
> firewalled, people usually only filter incoming traffic. The problem is
> probably that his netmeeting doesn't receive any data from you, thus it
> disconnects.
> If it doesn't receive any data from you, either the data doesn't leave
> your computer, or the data is dropped on his side.

I knew you guys know more about this than me. :)

> > I know a bit about firewalling (configured a few myself) but am not
> > declaring myself an expert. Still, getting only a part of the
transmission
> > through a firewall doesn't make much sense...
>
> Why not? Isn't it the purpose of firewalls to filter connections and to
> accept some of them and reject others ?

I know that. But this usually happens on different ports and different
directions of communication and not on one port and one directions but just
for a few seconds. :/


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OK. I started it with --debug=3. As before he connected at first without
video transmission enabled and after a while (about 30 seconds) he started
it and connection dropped as before in a few seconds. Here is the Log:

0:06.088 gnomemeeting gnomemeeting Version 0.94.1 by on Unix Linux
(2.4.19-16mdk-i686) at 2002/12/18 19:15:52.784

0:06.094 gnomemeeting H323 Started listener Listener[ip$*:1720]

0:06.096 H323 Listener:822f478 H323 Awaiting TCP connections on port 1720

0:06.186 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1

0:06.567 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLimits.
160x120 -- 352x288

0:06.773 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLimits.
160x120 -- 352x288

0:06.911 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeeded
for converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P

0:06.912 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLimits.
160x120 -- 352x288

0:06.912 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

0:07.052 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

0:29.086 H323 Listener:822f478 H323TCP Started connection:
host=217.82.7.44:4348, if=80.134.251.111:1720, handle=32

0:29.087 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Started incoming call thread

0:29.088 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Awaiting first PDU

0:29.105 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Receiving PDU: setup

0:29.105 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Incoming call, first PDU:
callReference=26496

0:29.107 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>

0:29.108 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>

0:29.108 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15k{sw} <3>

0:29.109 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k{sw} <4>

0:29.109 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>

0:29.110 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>

0:29.110 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:29.111 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <8>

0:29.111 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:29.111 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>

0:29.112 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>

0:29.112 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>

0:29.113 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: SpeexNarrow-15k{sw} <3>

0:29.113 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: SpeexNarrow-8k{sw} <4>

0:29.113 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>

0:29.114 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>

0:29.114 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:29.115 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <8>

0:29.115 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:29.116 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <10>

0:29.117 H225 Answer:82595c8 RFC2833 Handler created

0:29.118 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Created new connection:
ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496

0:29.119 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Handling PDU: Setup callRef=26496

0:29.119 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Set protocol version to 1 and implying
H.245 version 2

0:29.120 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Set remote application name: "Microsoft®
NetMeeting® 2.11 181/21324"

0:29.122 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Sending call proceeding PDU

0:29.126 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Sending PDU: callProceeding

0:29.145 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Incoming call accepted

0:29.657 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Answering call: AnswerCallNow

0:29.657 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 TCP Listen for H245 on
80.134.251.111:30000

0:29.658 H245:8259dd0 H245 Started thread

0:29.659 H245:8259dd0 H245 TCP Accept wait

0:29.660 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Sending PDU: connect

0:29.663 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=HasExecutedSignalConnect fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:29.664 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=HasExecutedSignalConnect fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:29.665 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Reading PDUs: callRef=26496

0:30.668 H245:8259dd0 H323TCP Started connection: host=217.82.7.44:4351,
if=80.134.251.111:30000, handle=38

0:30.669 H245:8259dd0 H245 Started control channel

0:30.670 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending TerminalCapabilitySet: outSeq=1

0:30.679 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: request terminalCapabilitySet

0:30.682 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending MasterSlaveDetermination

0:30.683 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: request masterSlaveDetermination

0:30.689 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: request terminalCapabilitySet

0:30.689 H245:8259dd0 H245 Set protocol version to 2

0:30.690 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received TerminalCapabilitySet: state=InProgress
pduSeq=1 inSeq=4294967295

0:30.690 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>

0:30.691 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>

0:30.691 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15k{sw} <3>

0:30.692 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k{sw} <4>

0:30.692 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>

0:30.693 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>

0:30.693 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:30.694 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <8>

0:30.694 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:30.694 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>

0:30.695 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:30.696 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <8>

0:30.696 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.723.1A(6.3k)-Cisco{hw} <11>

0:30.697 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.723.1A(5.3k){hw} <12>

0:30.697 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.723.1A(6.3k){hw} <13>

0:30.698 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.723.1(5.3k){hw} <14>

0:30.698 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.723.1{hw} <15>

0:30.699 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.729A/B{hw} <16>

0:30.699 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.729A{hw} <17>

0:30.700 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{hw} <18>

0:30.700 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.728{hw} <19>

0:30.701 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{hw} <20>

0:30.702 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{hw} <21>

0:30.702 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>

0:30.703 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: MS-IMA-ADPCM{sw} <22>

0:30.704 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>

0:30.704 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.726-16k{sw} <23>

0:30.705 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.726-24k{sw} <24>

0:30.705 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>

0:30.706 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.726-40k{sw} <25>

0:30.706 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>

0:30.707 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.729A{n/a} <26>

0:30.708 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.729{n/a} <27>

0:30.708 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-18.2k{sw} <28>

0:30.709 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: SpeexNarrow-15k{sw} <3>

0:30.710 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-11k{sw} <29>

0:30.710 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: SpeexNarrow-8k{sw} <4>

0:30.711 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-5.95k{sw} <30>

0:30.711 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: UserInput/hookflash <31>

0:30.712 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: UserInput/basicString <32>

0:30.712 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: UserInput/dtmf <33>

0:30.715 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: UserInput/RFC2833 <34>

0:30.715 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <8>

0:30.716 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:30.717 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.723.1A(5.3k){hw} <12>

0:30.717 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:30.718 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:30.719 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <1>

0:30.720 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:30.720 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.723.1(5.3k){hw} <4>

0:30.721 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <6>

0:30.721 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <7>

0:30.722 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.723.1(5.3k){hw} <4>

0:30.722 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:30.723 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <1>

0:30.724 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: H.261-QCIF <6>

0:30.724 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.723.1(5.3k){hw} <4>

0:30.724 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:30.725 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <1>

0:30.725 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <7>

0:30.726 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received capability set, is accepted

0:30.726 H245:8259dd0 H245 TerminalCapabilitySet already in progress:
outSeq=1

0:30.727 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: response terminalCapabilitySetAck

0:30.728 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=HasExecutedSignalConnect fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:31.002 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: request masterSlaveDetermination

0:31.006 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received MasterSlaveDetermination: state=Outgoing

0:31.007 H245:8259dd0 H245 MasterSlaveDetermination: local is slave

0:31.007 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: response masterSlaveDeterminationAck

0:31.008 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=HasExecutedSignalConnect fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:31.342 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: response terminalCapabilitySetAck

0:31.343 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received TerminalCapabilitySetAck:
state=InProgress pduSeq=1 outSeq=1

0:31.344 H245:8259dd0 H245 TerminalCapabilitySet Sent.

0:31.344 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=HasExecutedSignalConnect fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:31.696 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: response
masterSlaveDeterminationAck

0:31.696 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received MasterSlaveDeterminationAck:
state=Incoming

0:31.697 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=HasExecutedSignalConnect fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:31.698 H245:8259dd0 H245 Default OnSelectLogicalChannels,
FastStartDisabled

0:31.698 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:31.699 H245:8259dd0 H323 Selecting G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:31.699 H245:8259dd0 H245 Opening channel: T-101

0:31.702 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP Session 1 created: data=5000 control=5001
ssrc=543449014

0:31.704 H245:8259dd0 RTP Adding session RTP_UDP

0:31.704 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Transmitter created using session 1

0:31.705 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnSendingPDU

0:31.706 H245:8259dd0 RTP OnSendingPDU

0:31.707 H245:8259dd0 Codec G711 uLaw encoder created for at 64k, frame of
240 samples

0:31.894 H245:8259dd0 Codec Opened sound channel "/dev/sound/dsp" for
recording using 4x480 byte buffers.

0:31.895 H245:8259dd0 H323 Started sending logical channel:
G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:31.902 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Opened using capability G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:31.902 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Bandwidth requested/used = 64.0/0.0 kb/s

0:31.903 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: -0.0kb/s, available:
10000.0kb/s

0:31.904 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: +64.0kb/s, available:
10000.0kb/s

0:31.905 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: request openLogicalChannel

0:31.906 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: H.261-QCIF <6>

0:31.907 H245:8259dd0 H323 Selecting H.261-QCIF <6>

0:31.907 H245:8259dd0 H245 Opening channel: T-102

0:31.909 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP Session 2 created: data=5002 control=5003
ssrc=4193115180

0:31.910 H245:8259dd0 RTP Adding session RTP_UDP

0:31.910 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Transmitter created using session 2

0:31.911 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnSendingPDU

0:31.911 H245:8259dd0 RTP OnSendingPDU

0:31.912 H245:8259dd0 H261 QCIF encoder created.

0:31.913 H245:8259dd0 SetAverageBandwidth for video to 0bps

0:31.915 H245:8259dd0 H323 Started sending logical channel: H.261-QCIF <6>

0:31.919 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Opened using capability H.261-QCIF <6>

0:31.919 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Bandwidth requested/used = 240.0/0.0 kb/s

0:31.920 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: -0.0kb/s, available:
9936.0kb/s

0:31.920 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: +240.0kb/s, available:
9936.0kb/s

0:31.921 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: request openLogicalChannel

0:31.935 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: request openLogicalChannel

0:31.936 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received open channel: R-257, state=Released

0:31.937 H245:8259dd0 H323 CreateLogicalChannel - forward channel

0:31.937 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:31.938 H245:8259dd0 RTP Found existing session 2

0:31.938 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Receiver created using session 2

0:31.939 H245:8259dd0 H261 QCIF decoder created.

0:31.939 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Bandwidth requested/used = 240.0/0.0 kb/s

0:31.940 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: -0.0kb/s, available:
9696.0kb/s

0:31.940 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: +240.0kb/s, available:
9696.0kb/s

0:31.941 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnReceivedPDU for channel: R-257

0:31.942 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP SetRemoteSocketInfo: control channel,
new=217.82.7.44:5005, local=80.134.251.111:5002-5003, remote=0.0.0.0:0-0

0:31.942 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnSendOpenAck

0:31.943 H245:8259dd0 RTP OnSendingAckPDU

0:31.943 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Sending open logical channel ACK: sessionID=2

0:31.944 H245:8259dd0 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1

0:31.945 H245:8259dd0 H323 Started receiving logical channel: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:32.006 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:32.006 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:32.513 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:32.513 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:33.023 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:33.024 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:33.533 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:33.534 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:33.954 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: command miscellaneousCommand

0:33.956 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Opened using capability H.261-QCIF <9>

0:33.957 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receive H.261 thread started.

0:33.958 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: response openLogicalChannelAck

0:33.959 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:33.961 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: request openLogicalChannel

0:33.962 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received open channel: R-258, state=Released

0:33.963 H245:8259dd0 H323 CreateLogicalChannel - forward channel

0:33.963 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:33.964 H245:8259dd0 RTP Found existing session 1

0:33.964 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Receiver created using session 1

0:33.964 H245:8259dd0 Codec G711 uLaw decoder created for at 64k, frame of
256 samples

0:33.965 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Bandwidth requested/used = 64.0/0.0 kb/s

0:33.965 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: -0.0kb/s, available:
9456.0kb/s

0:33.966 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: +64.0kb/s, available:
9456.0kb/s

0:33.967 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnReceivedPDU for channel: R-258

0:33.967 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP SetRemoteSocketInfo: control channel,
new=217.82.7.44:5013, local=80.134.251.111:5000-5001, remote=0.0.0.0:0-0

0:33.968 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnSendOpenAck

0:33.968 H245:8259dd0 RTP OnSendingAckPDU

0:33.969 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Sending open logical channel ACK: sessionID=1

/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy

0:33.992 H245:8259dd0 Codec Opened sound channel "/dev/sound/dsp" for
playing using 4x512 byte buffers.

0:33.993 H245:8259dd0 H323 Started receiving logical channel:
G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:33.994 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Opened using capability G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:34.001 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: response openLogicalChannelAck

0:34.002 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:34.004 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: response openLogicalChannelAck

0:34.005 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received open channel ack: T-101,
state=AwaitingEstablishment

0:34.005 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnReceiveOpenAck

0:34.005 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP SetRemoteSocketInfo: control channel,
new=217.82.7.44:5013, local=80.134.251.111:5000-5001,
remote=217.82.7.44:5012-5013

0:34.006 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP SetRemoteSocketInfo: data channel,
new=217.82.7.44:5012, local=80.134.251.111:5000-5001,
remote=217.82.7.44:5012-5013

0:34.008 LogChanRx:81e9730 H323RTP Receive G.711-uLaw-64k thread started.

0:34.009 LogChanRx:81e9730 RTP Jitter buffer created: size=41 delay=1600

0:34.010 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:34.011 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: response openLogicalChannelAck

0:34.012 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received open channel ack: T-102,
state=AwaitingEstablishment

0:34.012 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnReceiveOpenAck

0:34.013 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP SetRemoteSocketInfo: control channel,
new=217.82.7.44:5005, local=80.134.251.111:5002-5003,
remote=217.82.7.44:5004-5005

0:34.014 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP SetRemoteSocketInfo: data channel,
new=217.82.7.44:5004, local=80.134.251.111:5002-5003,
remote=217.82.7.44:5004-5005

0:34.015 LogChanTx:828b830 H323RTP Transmit G.711-uLaw-64k thread started:
rate=240 time=30ms size=30*8=240

0:34.017 RTP Jitter:81ea858 RTP Jitter RTP receive thread started

0:34.018 LogChanTx:8264488 H323RTP Transmit H.261 thread started: rate=0
time=0ms size=1*2000=2000

0:34.023 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:34.025 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: command miscellaneousCommand

0:34.026 H245:8259dd0 Codec OnMiscellaneousCommand: videoFastUpdatePicture

0:34.026 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:34.027 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: command miscellaneousCommand

0:34.027 H245:8259dd0 Codecs H245 Miscellaneous Command :
videoTemporalSpatialTradeoff 29

0:34.028 H245:8259dd0 Codec OnVideoTemporalSpatialTradeoff()

0:34.028 H245:8259dd0 Codec OnMiscellaneousCommand:
videoTemporalSpatialTradeOff

0:34.029 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:34.043 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:34.043 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:34.216 LogChanTx:828b830 H323RTP Transmit start of talk burst: 240

0:34.243 LogChanRx:81e9730 Got 16bit PCM DTMF &#0;

0:34.553 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:34.554 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:34.601 LogChanRx:829fb50 RTP OnReceiverReport: ssrc=3786174224

0:34.601 LogChanRx:829fb50 RTP OnReceiverReport RR: ssrc=4193115180
fraction=0 lost=0 last_seq=47279 jitter=264 lsr=0.000 dlsr=0.000

0:34.602 LogChanRx:829fb50 RTP OnSourceDescription: ssrc=3786174224

item[0]: type=CNAME data="DFG"

item[1]: type=NAME data="DFG"

0:34.604 RTP Jitter:81ea858 RTP OnReceiverReport: ssrc=905823596

0:34.605 RTP Jitter:81ea858 RTP OnSourceDescription: ssrc=905823596

item[0]: type=CNAME data="DFG"

item[1]: type=NAME data="DFG"

0:34.801 LogChanRx:829fb50 RTP First data: ver=2 pt=H261 psz=1055 m=0 x=0
seq=20294 ts=84009240 src=3786174224 ccnt=0

0:34.802 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 84009240

0:34.802 LogChanRx:829fb50 H261 Detected loss of one video packet. 2 !=
20294 Will recover.

0:34.804 LogChanRx:829fb50 H245 Sending PDU: command miscellaneousCommand

0:34.806 LogChanRx:829fb50 H261 Lost or out of order packet, using values
from H261 header

0:34.810 LogChanRx:829fb50 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

0:35.053 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 84033540

0:35.063 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:35.063 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:35.217 LogChanTx:8264488 H323RTP Transmitter sent timestamp 18018

0:35.333 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 84057930

0:35.535 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Receiving PDU: releaseComplete

0:35.535 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Handling PDU: ReleaseComplete
callRef=26496

0:35.536 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Clearing connection
ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 reason=EndedByRemoteUser

0:35.537 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Call end reason for
ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 set to EndedByRemoteUser

0:35.537 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Sending release complete PDU:
callRef=26496

0:35.539 H225 Answer:82595c8 H245 Sending PDU: command endSessionCommand

0:35.540 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Sending PDU: releaseComplete

0:35.540 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Clearing connection
ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 reason=EndedByTransportFail

0:35.541 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Signal channel closed.

0:35.543 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

0:35.544 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 closing:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection

0:35.544 H323 Cleaner H323RTP Cleaning up RTP T-102

0:35.544 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 2, Shutting down write.

0:35.545 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaning up T-102

0:35.573 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:35.574 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:35.589 LogChanTx:8264488 RTP_UDP Session 2, Write shutdown.

0:35.589 LogChanTx:8264488 H323RTP Transmit H.261 thread ended

0:35.598 H323 Cleaner H323 Stopped sending logical channel: H.261-QCIF <6>

0:35.599 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaned up T-102

0:35.599 H323 Cleaner H323RTP Cleaning up RTP R-257

0:35.600 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 2, Shutting down read.

0:35.600 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaning up R-257

0:35.601 LogChanRx:829fb50 RTP_UDP Session 2, Read shutdown.

0:35.601 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receive H.261 thread ended

0:35.613 H323 Cleaner H323 Stopped receiving logical channel: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:35.613 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaned up R-257

0:35.614 H323 Cleaner H323RTP Cleaning up RTP R-258

0:35.614 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 1, Shutting down read.

0:35.615 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaning up R-258

0:35.615 RTP Jitter:81ea858 RTP_UDP Session 1, Read shutdown.

0:35.615 RTP Jitter:81ea858 RTP Jitter RTP receive thread ended

0:35.621 LogChanRx:81e9730 H323RTP Receive G.711-uLaw-64k thread ended

0:35.629 H245:8259dd0 H245 Read error:

0:35.629 H245:8259dd0 H323 Clearing connection ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496
reason=EndedByTransportFail

0:35.630 H245:8259dd0 H245 Control channel closed.

0:35.633 H323 Cleaner H323 Stopped receiving logical channel:
G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:35.633 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaned up R-258

0:35.634 H323 Cleaner H323RTP Cleaning up RTP T-101

0:35.634 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 1, Shutting down write.

0:35.634 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaning up T-101

0:35.658 LogChanTx:828b830 RTP_UDP Session 1, Write shutdown.

0:35.658 LogChanTx:828b830 H323RTP Transmit G.711-uLaw-64k thread ended

0:35.749 H323 Cleaner H323 Stopped sending logical channel:
G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:35.750 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaned up T-101

0:35.750 H323 Cleaner RTP Releasing session 2

0:35.751 H323 Cleaner H323 Bandwidth request: -240.0kb/s, available:
9392.0kb/s

0:35.752 H323 Cleaner RTP Releasing session 2

0:35.752 H323 Cleaner RTP Deleting session 2

0:35.752 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 2, Shutting down read.

0:35.753 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 2, Shutting down write.

0:35.754 H323 Cleaner RTP Final statistics:

packetsSent = 26

octetsSent = 21939

averageSendTime = 0

maximumSendTime = 0

minimumSendTime = 0

packetsReceived = 6

octetsReceived = 4391

packetsLost = 0

packetsTooLate = 0

packetsOutOfOrder = 0

averageReceiveTime= 0

maximumReceiveTime= 0

minimumReceiveTime= 0

jitter = 15

0:35.756 H323 Cleaner H323 Bandwidth request: -240.0kb/s, available:
9632.0kb/s

0:35.757 H323 Cleaner RTP Releasing session 1

0:35.757 H323 Cleaner H323 Bandwidth request: -64.0kb/s, available:
9872.0kb/s

0:35.758 H323 Cleaner RTP Releasing session 1

0:35.758 H323 Cleaner RTP Deleting session 1

0:35.759 H323 Cleaner RTP Removing jitter buffer

0:35.759 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 1, Shutting down read.

0:35.760 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 1, Shutting down write.

0:35.760 H323 Cleaner RTP Final statistics:

packetsSent = 48

octetsSent = 11520

averageSendTime = 0

maximumSendTime = 0

minimumSendTime = 0

packetsReceived = 0

octetsReceived = 0

packetsLost = 0

packetsTooLate = 0

packetsOutOfOrder = 0

averageReceiveTime= 0

maximumReceiveTime= 0

minimumReceiveTime= 0

jitter = 0

0:35.762 H323 Cleaner H323 Bandwidth request: -64.0kb/s, available:
9936.0kb/s

0:35.763 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close

0:36.625 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTermination for
H245:8259dd0

0:36.625 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close

0:36.626 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTermination for H225
Answer:82595c8

0:36.626 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 terminated.

0:37.647 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1

0:38.010 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLimits. 160x120 --
352x288

0:38.216 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLimits. 160x120 --
352x288

0:38.353 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeeded for
converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P

0:38.354 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLimits. 160x120 --
352x288

0:38.354 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

0:38.497 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

0:38.766 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>

0:38.766 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>

0:38.767 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15k{sw} <3>

0:38.767 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k{sw} <4>

0:38.767 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>

0:38.768 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>

0:38.768 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:38.769 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <8>

0:38.769 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:38.770 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>

0:38.771 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 deleted.

0:38.771 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

0:38.772 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

4:04.626 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

4:06.814 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

4:06.815 H323 Cleaner H323 Stopped cleaner thread

4:06.815 gnomemeeting H323 Cleaning up connections

4:06.816 gnomemeeting H323 Deleted endpoint.

---------------------------------------

Funny stuff is that when Gnomemeeting says communication ended by remote
user, the guy I was connected with said his Netmeeting didn't notice the
connection dropped. After about 5 minutes of him waiting to see if finally
Netmeeting realises connection broke, he gave up and closed the connection
himself.

Hope it helps.


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OK, 

I see potential problems in the log :

> 0:29.120 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Set remote application name: "Microsoft®
> NetMeeting® 2.11 181/21324"
> 
Try to use Netmeeting 3.01 at least. I think NM 2.00 will never work,
I'm not even sure it fully respects H.323

> 0:31.699 H245:8259dd0 H323 Selecting G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>
> 

Not a good codec in terms of bandwidth, your friend should install
MS-GSM for Netmeeting (see gnomemeeting.org for details).


> 0:33.969 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Sending open logical channel ACK: sessionID=1
> 
> /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
> 

That could be the source of the problems. The audio device can be opened
for recording, but not for playing what he sends you, in consequence,
the logical channel will be closed or will not be opened and Netmeeting
will clear the connection. You didn't mention me that detail in your
previous mails, but a popup should appear ;)

In clear words, either your soundcard is not full-duplex, or your driver
is not ALSA... Switch to ALSA, and I think it should work.

> 0:35.536 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Clearing connection
> ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 reason=EndedByRemoteUser
> 
> 0:35.537 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Call end reason for
> ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 set to EndedByRemoteUser
> 

> Funny stuff is that when Gnomemeeting says communication ended by remote
> user, the guy I was connected with said his Netmeeting didn't notice the
> connection dropped. After about 5 minutes of him waiting to see if finally
> Netmeeting realises connection broke, he gave up and closed the connection
> himself.

Funny the log indicates that Netmeeting sent a "Clearing" message and
dropped the connection just after.
-- 
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muahaha. cool. :) :) :)

We had same prob with Netmeeting 3.01 so that is why he downgraded (in hope
it would work).  I didn't bother to install the MS-GSM as it was a video
prob. He had it installed on 3.01 and still same probs. Now I will probably
ask him to install it again.

BTW, I see the log message (missed it before) and I still wonder why does it
happen only when he connects video... :/ Without him sending video we can
stay connected for as much as we want...

And I do have alsa installed. It is an onboard soundcard from the AC97
series. i.e.:
above snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0

I will try to disable the sound on board and install a new soundcard and see
if that helps. Maybe also upgrade alsa...
ALSA sound driver (version 0.9.0rc2)

Thx for the help. I will let you  know if things get better. :)

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> OK,
>
> I see potential problems in the log :
>
> > 0:29.120 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Set remote application name:
"Microsoft®
> > NetMeeting® 2.11 181/21324"
> >
> Try to use Netmeeting 3.01 at least. I think NM 2.00 will never work,
> I'm not even sure it fully respects H.323
>
> > 0:31.699 H245:8259dd0 H323 Selecting G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>
> >
>
> Not a good codec in terms of bandwidth, your friend should install
> MS-GSM for Netmeeting (see gnomemeeting.org for details).
>
>
> > 0:33.969 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Sending open logical channel ACK:
sessionID=1
> >
> > /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
> >
>
> That could be the source of the problems. The audio device can be opened
> for recording, but not for playing what he sends you, in consequence,
> the logical channel will be closed or will not be opened and Netmeeting
> will clear the connection. You didn't mention me that detail in your
> previous mails, but a popup should appear ;)
>
> In clear words, either your soundcard is not full-duplex, or your driver
> is not ALSA... Switch to ALSA, and I think it should work.
>
> > 0:35.536 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Clearing connection
> > ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 reason=EndedByRemoteUser
> >
> > 0:35.537 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Call end reason for
> > ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 set to EndedByRemoteUser
> >
>
> > Funny stuff is that when Gnomemeeting says communication ended by remote
> > user, the guy I was connected with said his Netmeeting didn't notice the
> > connection dropped. After about 5 minutes of him waiting to see if
finally
> > Netmeeting realises connection broke, he gave up and closed the
connection
> > himself.
>
> Funny the log indicates that Netmeeting sent a "Clearing" message and
> dropped the connection just after.
> --
> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
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oh... almost forgot... I have some other logs which don't have that
/device/sound/dsp device busy when connection breaks... Are you sure that's
the cause?
I am going to try changing the soundcard anyway as I don't have anything to
lose, but wanted to make sure I am on the right way... :)


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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 00:34, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> oh... almost forgot... I have some other logs which don't have that
> /device/sound/dsp device busy when connection breaks... Are you sure that's
> the cause?

No, we can't be sure.
I'm just sure that Netmeeting is the cause, unfortunately, and that
Netmeeting is not opensource, so there is not much we can do about it...

Perhaps try to start video from the beginning, not during the call, I'm
not sure GnomeMeeting deals correctly with that, I never tried. 

> I am going to try changing the soundcard anyway as I don't have anything to
> lose, but wanted to make sure I am on the right way... :)
> 
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We tried with video send enabled and it didn't help. The only thing which
appears in all logs before dropping the connection is:

0:34.801 LogChanRx:829fb50 RTP First data: ver=2 pt=H261 psz=1055 m=0 x=0
seq=20294 ts=84009240 src=3786174224 ccnt=0

0:34.802 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 84009240

0:34.802 LogChanRx:829fb50 H261 Detected loss of one video packet. 2 !=
20294 Will recover.

0:34.804 LogChanRx:829fb50 H245 Sending PDU: command miscellaneousCommand

0:34.806 LogChanRx:829fb50 H261 Lost or out of order packet, using values
from H261 header

0:34.810 LogChanRx:829fb50 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

0:35.053 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 84033540

0:35.063 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:35.063 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:35.217 LogChanTx:8264488 H323RTP Transmitter sent timestamp 18018

0:35.333 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 84057930

0:35.535 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Receiving PDU: releaseComplete

0:35.535 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Handling PDU: ReleaseComplete
callRef=26496

0:35.536 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Clearing connection
ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 reason=EndedByRemoteUser

0:35.537 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Call end reason for
ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 set to EndedByRemoteUser

------------------------ end of partial log 1 --------------

11:33.365 LogChanRx:82700b8 RTP First data: ver=2 pt=H261 psz=931 m=0 x=0
seq=34385 ts=44911890 src=1622867419 ccnt=0

11:33.366 LogChanRx:82700b8 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 44911890

11:33.366 LogChanRx:82700b8 H261 Detected loss of one video packet. 2 !=
34385 Will recover.

11:33.367 LogChanRx:82700b8 H245 Sending PDU: command miscellaneousCommand

11:33.369 LogChanRx:82700b8 H261 Lost or out of order packet, using values
from H261 header

11:33.397 LogChanRx:82700b8 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

11:33.423 LogChanTx:82c2b38 RTP Transmit statistics: packets=901
octets=216240 avgTime=30 maxTime=47 minTime=0

11:33.558 H225 Answer:82c0d78 H225 Receiving PDU: releaseComplete

11:33.560 H225 Answer:82c0d78 H225 Handling PDU: ReleaseComplete
callRef=11472

11:33.560 H225 Answer:82c0d78 H323 Clearing connection
ip$217.82.7.44:4588/11472 reason=EndedByRemoteUser

11:33.561 H225 Answer:82c0d78 H323 Call end reason for
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I am wondering what happens when video packets get lost... :/ What does
gnomemeeting do in such case?

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> Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 00:34, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> > oh... almost forgot... I have some other logs which don't have that
> > /device/sound/dsp device busy when connection breaks... Are you sure
that's
> > the cause?
>
> No, we can't be sure.
> I'm just sure that Netmeeting is the cause, unfortunately, and that
> Netmeeting is not opensource, so there is not much we can do about it...
>
> Perhaps try to start video from the beginning, not during the call, I'm
> not sure GnomeMeeting deals correctly with that, I never tried.
>
> > I am going to try changing the soundcard anyway as I don't have anything
to
> > lose, but wanted to make sure I am on the right way... :)
> >
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> 
> I am wondering what happens when video packets get lost... :/ What does
> gnomemeeting do in such case?

It tries to recover, but I can assure you it is not asking to the remote
to cut the connection.

Your problem is very weird, I also mailed Equivalence (the OpenH323
authors) about it, and they confirm it is weird, but can't really help
more than I am. Perhaps you could try with an XP machine on your LAN to
see if it happens. I personally only have Millenium on my laptop for
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Shucks... I don't have any XP machine (only Linux firewall, Win2k and
win98SE)... and he also tried with win98SE and same thing... :/ I will
also try again with the win98SE in my lan and move the camera to that
PC. Since connection dropping happens only when Netmeeting is sending
video I guess I can test without a camera on Gnomemeeting (I have only
one webcam).

Can it be that somehow Netmeeting waits for some aknowledgement of
received packet and "doesn't like" the answer it gets from Gnomemeeting
or doesn't fer any answer about the lost packet(s) and decides to close
the connection?

Is there any way I he can start Netmeeting with some debug info so we
can see what happens? Or is there any simple way to make a packetdump
on his PC and try to work it out from there? I say "simple" cause he
isn't programmer and he might have probs if procedure is too
complicated... Unfortunatelly he is about 300Km away from me and I
won't be able to go and see what the heck he is doing there for a
looooong time...

I saw that at least for Netmeeting 3.01 there is a SDK. I am a
programmer but it has been a long time since I used C/C++ and never
programed audio/video applications... Otherwise I would have tried to
look into the code myself and see if there is anything weird in
there... Is there anything in their SDK which could help trace the
prob?

BTW, where can I get the 0.95? Except CVS I didn't see any tarball or
such. Maybe I get better luck with 0.95... Where can I find a changelog
for 0.95 anyway?

Thx. for the help. If I can help in anyway you guys with the project
just let me know.

Damien Sandras schrieb:
> 
> > 
> > I am wondering what happens when video packets get
> lost... :/ What does
> > gnomemeeting do in such case?
> 
> It tries to recover, but I can assure you it is not
> asking to the remote
> to cut the connection.
> 
> Your problem is very weird, I also mailed Equivalence
> (the OpenH323
> authors) about it, and they confirm it is weird, but
> can't really help
> more than I am. Perhaps you could try with an XP machine
> on your LAN to
> see if it happens. I personally only have Millenium on my
> laptop for
> testing.
> -- 
> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
> 
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> I am wondering what happens when video packets get lost... :/ What does
> gnomemeeting do in such case?
> 

I was just thinking to that... Packets loss can not influence the
connection as you only loose packets on reception, not on emission.
I only see 3 possibilities:
- something in Netmeeting XP that prevents it to work with something
else than Netmeeting 
- packet loss from you to him
- firewall problem on his side


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BTW, I saw in the logs (if I interpreted that right) that he sent video
in format H.261 QCIF. Is there a special decoder for H.261? What
package contains that thing (maybe upgrading that package might help)?

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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 10:30, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> Shucks... I don't have any XP machine (only Linux firewall, Win2k and
> win98SE)... and he also tried with win98SE and same thing... :/ I will

It works perfectly for many users in 98 and 2000.


> 
> Can it be that somehow Netmeeting waits for some aknowledgement of
> received packet and "doesn't like" the answer it gets from Gnomemeeting
> or doesn't fer any answer about the lost packet(s) and decides to close
> the connection?
> 

No, not possible, both respect the H.323 protocol, Equivalence has
tested his library a lot and the library is far more conform to H.323
than Netmeeting. Moreover, I know many users who have used GnomeMeeting
with Netmeeting since the beginning without any problem.

> Is there any way I he can start Netmeeting with some debug info so we
> can see what happens? Or is there any simple way to make a packetdump

No, no way that I know, but it doesn't mean it is not possible.

> on his PC and try to work it out from there? I say "simple" cause he

All we can get are raw packets, not very useful. The only thing that
could be useful would be if Netmeeting was telling why it disconnects.

> isn't programmer and he might have probs if procedure is too
> complicated... Unfortunatelly he is about 300Km away from me and I
> won't be able to go and see what the heck he is doing there for a
> looooong time...
> 
> I saw that at least for Netmeeting 3.01 there is a SDK. I am a
> programmer but it has been a long time since I used C/C++ and never
> programed audio/video applications... Otherwise I would have tried to
> look into the code myself and see if there is anything weird in
> there... Is there anything in their SDK which could help trace the
> prob?
> 

I'm a Linux programmer and have no clue about the Netmeeting SDK.
If you really want to communicate with him and think that the problem is
related to Netmeeting and not to his configuration, you can always try
OpenPhone : http://www.openh323.org/code.html#windows

> BTW, where can I get the 0.95? Except CVS I didn't see any tarball or
> such. Maybe I get better luck with 0.95... Where can I find a changelog
> for 0.95 anyway?

in CVS, 0.95 is not released yet. We have binary packages for Redhat 8
and Debian SID. Mail me privately if you want the URL (we can't publish
it on the mailing list for bandwidth reasons).


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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 10:34, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> BTW, I saw in the logs (if I interpreted that right) that he sent video
> in format H.261 QCIF. Is there a special decoder for H.261? What
> package contains that thing (maybe upgrading that package might help)?

H.261 is code from VIC (university of Columbian iirc) and is included in
OpenH323. That code is of good quality and pretty old and tested.
QCIF is only the size. It means small size.

I have one idea though, but it is purely hypothetical:
- it does work only if he is not sending video, ie if he is not sending
much data. Couldn't it be possible that his DSL is of extremely bad
quality and reduces downloads a lot when there is much upload? If so,
some packets sent by GnomeMeeting could be dropped and Netmeeting could
think the connection is broken. I know it works for other Netmeeting
users, but they are using H.263 which is using less bandwidth than
H.261, we can't include it in GM for legal reasons.
Tell him to watch his bandwidth and to reduce video quality.

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Cool. I always wondered if there is such a freeware proggie for Win32
and couldn't find any. :) Thx.

BTW in case probs arise also with OpenPhone, is there at least a way
for this app to get some debug info?

Damien Sandras schrieb:
> Le jeu 19/12/2002 =E0 10:30, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de
> a =E9crit :
> > Shucks... I don't have any XP machine (only Linux
> firewall, Win2k and
> > win98SE)... and he also tried with win98SE and same
> thing... :/ I will
>=20
> It works perfectly for many users in 98 and 2000.
>=20
>=20
> >=20
> > Can it be that somehow Netmeeting waits for some
> aknowledgement of
> > received packet and "doesn't like" the answer it gets
> from Gnomemeeting
> > or doesn't fer any answer about the lost packet(s) and
> decides to close
> > the connection?
> >=20
>=20
> No, not possible, both respect the H.323 protocol,
> Equivalence has
> tested his library a lot and the library is far more
> conform to H.323
> than Netmeeting. Moreover, I know many users who have
> used GnomeMeeting
> with Netmeeting since the beginning without any problem.
>=20
> > Is there any way I he can start Netmeeting with some
> debug info so we
> > can see what happens? Or is there any simple way to
> make a packetdump
>=20
> No, no way that I know, but it doesn't mean it is not
> possible.
>=20
> > on his PC and try to work it out from there? I say
> "simple" cause he
>=20
> All we can get are raw packets, not very useful. The only
> thing that
> could be useful would be if Netmeeting was telling why it
> disconnects.
>=20
> > isn't programmer and he might have probs if procedure
> is too
> > complicated... Unfortunatelly he is about 300Km away
> from me and I
> > won't be able to go and see what the heck he is doing
> there for a
> > looooong time...
> >=20
> > I saw that at least for Netmeeting 3.01 there is a SDK.
> I am a
> > programmer but it has been a long time since I used
> C/C++ and never
> > programed audio/video applications... Otherwise I would
> have tried to
> > look into the code myself and see if there is anything
> weird in
> > there... Is there anything in their SDK which could
> help trace the
> > prob?
> >=20
>=20
> I'm a Linux programmer and have no clue about the
> Netmeeting SDK.
> If you really want to communicate with him and think that
> the problem is
> related to Netmeeting and not to his configuration, you
> can always try
> OpenPhone : http://www.openh323.org/code.html#windows
>=20
> > BTW, where can I get the 0.95? Except CVS I didn't see
> any tarball or
> > such. Maybe I get better luck with 0.95... Where can I
> find a changelog
> > for 0.95 anyway?
>=20
> in CVS, 0.95 is not released yet. We have binary packages
> for Redhat 8
> and Debian SID. Mail me privately if you want the URL (we
> can't publish
> it on the mailing list for bandwidth reasons).
>=20
>=20
> --=20
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> v_/_=09
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> callto://ils.seconix.com/dsandras@seconix.com
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OK. I asked him to reduce the quality yesterday and he said he had no
clue how to do that after fondling with it for about 10 minutes.:)I
will try to see if I can figure it out and help him on that one. :)

Anyway, you might be right with the compression and bandwidth. So what
can I do to make gnomemeeting use H.263? Is there any way to install
such a codec on my linux machine and tell gnomemeeting to use it?

And if I install it, how can we make sure our communication goes over
H.263.


Damien Sandras schrieb:
> Le jeu 19/12/2002 =E0 10:34, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de
> a =E9crit :
> > BTW, I saw in the logs (if I interpreted that right)
> that he sent video
> > in format H.261 QCIF. Is there a special decoder for
> H.261? What
> > package contains that thing (maybe upgrading that
> package might help)?
>=20
> H.261 is code from VIC (university of Columbian iirc) and
> is included in
> OpenH323. That code is of good quality and pretty old and
> tested.
> QCIF is only the size. It means small size.
>=20
> I have one idea though, but it is purely hypothetical:
> - it does work only if he is not sending video, ie if he
> is not sending
> much data. Couldn't it be possible that his DSL is of
> extremely bad
> quality and reduces downloads a lot when there is much
> upload? If so,
> some packets sent by GnomeMeeting could be dropped and
> Netmeeting could
> think the connection is broken. I know it works for other
> Netmeeting
> users, but they are using H.263 which is using less
> bandwidth than
> H.261, we can't include it in GM for legal reasons.
> Tell him to watch his bandwidth and to reduce video
> quality.
>=20
> --=20
>  _	Damien Sandras
> (o-	GnomeMeeting: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
> //\	FOSDEM 2003:  http://www.fosdem.org
> v_/_=09
> 	H.323 phone:=20
> callto://ils.seconix.com/dsandras@seconix.com
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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 10:44, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> Cool. I always wondered if there is such a freeware proggie for Win32
> and couldn't find any. :) Thx.
> 
> BTW in case probs arise also with OpenPhone, is there at least a way
> for this app to get some debug info?
> 

Yes, the same debug as with GnomeMeeting.
GnomeMeeting should be ported to windows too in the beginning of next
year (in 2003).
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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 10:48, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> OK. I asked him to reduce the quality yesterday and he said he had no
> clue how to do that after fondling with it for about 10 minutes.:)I
> will try to see if I can figure it out and help him on that one. :)
> 
> Anyway, you might be right with the compression and bandwidth. So what
> can I do to make gnomemeeting use H.263? Is there any way to install
> such a codec on my linux machine and tell gnomemeeting to use it?
> 
> And if I install it, how can we make sure our communication goes over
> H.263.
> 

No, I told you there were legal reasons why we can't add H.263 into
GnomeMeeting. 

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Argh... which starts me thinking about his MTU... Hmmm... We have a DSL
connection monitor from our provider so I will ask him to open it
during the connection and see upload and download rates.

Damien Sandras schrieb:
> I have one idea though, but it is purely hypothetical:
> - it does work only if he is not sending video, ie if he
> is not sending
> much data. Couldn't it be possible that his DSL is of
> extremely bad
> quality and reduces downloads a lot when there is much
> upload? If so,
> some packets sent by GnomeMeeting could be dropped and
> Netmeeting could
> think the connection is broken. I know it works for other
> Netmeeting
> users, but they are using H.263 which is using less
> bandwidth than
> H.261, we can't include it in GM for legal reasons.
> Tell him to watch his bandwidth and to reduce video
> quality.
> 
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He he. :)

I understood that, but you could make gnomemeeting be able to use
external codecs ( selected from options for ex.) and maybe someone
(thirdparty) would develop such a codec for linux. O:)

> No, I told you there were legal reasons why we can't add
> H.263 into
> GnomeMeeting. 
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adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de wrote:

>OK. I asked him to reduce the quality yesterday and he said he had no
>clue how to do that after fondling with it for about 10 minutes.:)I
>will try to see if I can figure it out and help him on that one. :)
>  
>

Adrien,

If you want to do some testing with other Netmeeting client ( other then
your friend's ) you can drop me an e-mail and I'll give you my ICQ number
(I hope you use it, if not, I'll tell you a way to use it without 
installing a client),
and you can call me and test all you need .
I'm used to work with netmeeting and I use it a lot with my brother ( 
from Portugal
to Netherlands - Cable to ADSL ).
I use W2K Professional on Cable and a Vigor Router .

Happy season Greetings to all !

João Pedro

jpedro.vf@netcabo.pt



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Sorry to be persistant :) , but...=20
A quick search revealed the following:

XAnim seems to be having/using the H.263 codec.

http://xanim.va.pubnix.com/xa_copylic.html

And there is one more decoder:

http://www-mobile.ecs.soton.ac.uk/peter/robust-h263/robust.html

If I install any of the above do I also get a codec installed? And if
so, is there any way to tell Gnomemeeting to use it (in config files or
such)?

Damien Sandras schrieb:
> Le jeu 19/12/2002 =E0 10:48, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de
> a =E9crit :
> > OK. I asked him to reduce the quality yesterday and he
> said he had no
> > clue how to do that after fondling with it for about 10
> minutes.:)I
> > will try to see if I can figure it out and help him on
> that one. :)
> >=20
> > Anyway, you might be right with the compression and
> bandwidth. So what
> > can I do to make gnomemeeting use H.263? Is there any
> way to install
> > such a codec on my linux machine and tell gnomemeeting
> to use it?
> >=20
> > And if I install it, how can we make sure our
> communication goes over
> > H.263.
> >=20
>=20
> No, I told you there were legal reasons why we can't add
> H.263 into
> GnomeMeeting.=20
>=20
> --=20
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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 11:41, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> Sorry to be persistant :) , but... 
> A quick search revealed the following:
> 
> XAnim seems to be having/using the H.263 codec.
> 
> http://xanim.va.pubnix.com/xa_copylic.html
> 
> And there is one more decoder:
> 
> http://www-mobile.ecs.soton.ac.uk/peter/robust-h263/robust.html
> 
> If I install any of the above do I also get a codec installed? And if
> so, is there any way to tell Gnomemeeting to use it (in config files or
> such)?

You can code it in OpenH323. There is no magic like you seem to believe
it...


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Thx. That might prove usefull as my friend tends to lose his patience
prety quick when we test and gives up. So I cannot test all the
possible things. :)

I will contact you as soon as he gives up testing again. :)

And BTW I don't have ICQ.

Jo=E3o Pedro schrieb:
> adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de wrote:
>=20
> >OK. I asked him to reduce the quality yesterday and he
> said he had no
> >clue how to do that after fondling with it for about 10
> minutes.:)I
> >will try to see if I can figure it out and help him on
> that one. :)
> > =20
> >
>=20
> Adrien,
>=20
> If you want to do some testing with other Netmeeting
> client ( other then
> your friend's ) you can drop me an e-mail and I'll give
> you my ICQ number
> (I hope you use it, if not, I'll tell you a way to use it
> without=20
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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 11:52, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> Thx. That might prove usefull as my friend tends to lose his patience
> prety quick when we test and gives up. So I cannot test all the
> possible things. :)
> 
> I will contact you as soon as he gives up testing again. :)
> 
> And BTW I don't have ICQ.
> 

I think that even if your friend doesn't loose his patience, it is a
very good test that you have to do because it will permit to determine
if :
- the problem is on your side (it doesn't work with Joao either)
- the problem is on his side (it does work with Joao)

Don't be shy ;)
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I guess you are right. Anyway, I will try to conduct first some local
tests again this afternoon when I get home from work. I updated almost
all the packages I could find in newer version related to this problem
for my distribution (alsa, pwlib, xpm, etc) so I wanna see if it still
works at least local after all this. :D

I already bought some cheap duplex souncard (which I know is supported
by my distro) to try if all else fails and another networkcard for my
win2k PC to see if a win32<->win32 connection works. Now I just hope I
don't have to also buy another webcam to be able to fully test. :) BTW,
is there a list of cams which have support included in the kernel
(2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to buy
another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)

And you just gave me an idea with your previous email. I found some
other linux proggies which use H.263. If I get depresive enough about
it I might look into their sources and try to copy the code to
Gnomemeeting and see if it works. That is if I remember the needed
stuff from the time I coded C/C++. :D

BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)

Damien Sandras schrieb:
> Le jeu 19/12/2002 =E0 11:52, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de
> a =E9crit :
> > Thx. That might prove usefull as my friend tends to
> lose his patience
> > prety quick when we test and gives up. So I cannot test
> all the
> > possible things. :)
> >=20
> > I will contact you as soon as he gives up testing
> again. :)
> >=20
> > And BTW I don't have ICQ.
> >=20
>=20
> I think that even if your friend doesn't loose his
> patience, it is a
> very good test that you have to do because it will permit
> to determine
> if :
> - the problem is on your side (it doesn't work with Joao
> either)
> - the problem is on his side (it does work with Joao)
>=20
> Don't be shy ;)
> --=20
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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 12:11, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :

> (2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to buy
> another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)
> 

Philips-chipset based cameras (Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000, Philips
ToUCAM Pro) are the best: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/


> 
> BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)
> 

In a few months if everything goes well, I'm not doing the port myself
as I don't like window$ ;)



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Hi,

On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de wrote:

> Thx. That might prove usefull as my friend tends to lose his patience
> prety quick when we test and gives up. So I cannot test all the

use vnc to control his computer :-) and do tests


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lol. try to vnc on 2 ADSL conenction with 128Kb/s upload a piece and
let me know if you have any bandwidth left for videoconferencing. :D

Carles Pina i Estany schrieb:
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> On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de
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> all the
> 
> use vnc to control his computer :-) and do tests
> 
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Hi,

On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de wrote:

> lol. try to vnc on 2 ADSL conenction with 128Kb/s upload a piece and
> let me know if you have any bandwidth left for videoconferencing. :D

yes, I know because I have test it :-)

but to do the test is enough :-)

try with openphone from windows, I think it is a good software

good luck


>
> Carles Pina i Estany schrieb:
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> > On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de
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> >
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> > lose his patience
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> > all the
> >
> > use vnc to control his computer :-) and do tests
> >
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Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem
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OK. I am trying to cotact Joao for the testing. In the meantime I tried to
connect to some random peeps which have netmeeting and got this in the debug
output:

-------------------
8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <10>

8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 RFC2833 Handler created

8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Created new connection: ip$local

host/7266

8:07.901 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Started call thread

8:08.149 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323TCP Started connection: host=24.50.

147.246:1503, if=80.134.254.176:30005, handle=31

8:08.150 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending Setup PDU

8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Check for Fast start by local en

dpoint

8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H245 Default OnSelectLogicalChannels,

FastStartDisabled

8:08.152 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: setup

8:08.153 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Reading PDUs: callRef=7266

8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Read error (104): Connection res

et by peer

8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost

/7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail

8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Call end reason for ip$localhost

/7266 set to EndedByTransportFail

8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending release complete PDU: ca

llRef=7266

8:08.412 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: releaseComplete

8:08.413 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Write PDU failed (32): Broken pi

pe

8:08.414 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost

/7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail

8:08.414 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 clo

sing: connectionState=AwaitingSignalConnect

8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close

8:08.416 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTerminat

ion for H225 Caller:82695d8

8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 H323Transport::Close

8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Signal channel closed.

8:08.433 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 ter

minated.

8:09.544 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1

8:09.894 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim

its. 160x120 -- 352x288

8:10.097 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim

its. 160x120 -- 352x288

8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeed

ed for converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P

8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim its. 160x120 --
352x288

8:10.239 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

8:10.385 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

8:10.594 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>

8:10.600 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>

8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15 k{sw} <3>

8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k {sw} <4>

8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>

8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>

8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k {sw} <7>

8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k {sw} <8>

8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>

8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 del eted.

8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

-------------------

what the heck is the localhost doing in there?!? except upgrading all
libraries and recompiling the kernel to suit my camera requirements I didn't
change anything. :/

----- Original Message -----
From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem


> Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 12:11, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
>
> > (2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to buy
> > another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)
> >
>
> Philips-chipset based cameras (Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000, Philips
> ToUCAM Pro) are the best: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
>
>
> >
> > BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)
> >
>
> In a few months if everything goes well, I'm not doing the port myself
> as I don't like window$ ;)
>
>
>
> --
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From derek@indranet.co.nz  Thu Dec 19 16:25:33 2002
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Hi,
 I have no idea why sending video causes the windows XP machine to 
quit the call.

My first thought, are there any uses of GM who have been able to talk 
video and audio to a win XP machine?

However, reading the log provides some clues.

You can try changing the h261codec.cxx file so the h261 codec does not
send a miscellaneous command on detecting the loss of one video packet.


        PTRACE(3,"H261\tDetected loss of one video packet. "
          << lastSequenceNumber << " != "
          << frame.GetSequenceNumber() << " Will recover.");
        lastSequenceNumber = frame.GetSequenceNumber();
/***/   SendMiscCommand(H245_MiscellaneousCommand_type::e_lostPartialPicture);

Thus, 
 remove the line marked /****/

Recompile, and try it.

Thanks,
 Derek.



On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:

> OK. I am trying to cotact Joao for the testing. In the meantime I tried to
> connect to some random peeps which have netmeeting and got this in the debug
> output:
> 
> -------------------
> 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> 
> 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 RFC2833 Handler created
> 
> 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Created new connection: ip$local
> 
> host/7266
> 
> 8:07.901 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Started call thread
> 
> 8:08.149 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323TCP Started connection: host=24.50.
> 
> 147.246:1503, if=80.134.254.176:30005, handle=31
> 
> 8:08.150 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending Setup PDU
> 
> 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Check for Fast start by local en
> 
> dpoint
> 
> 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H245 Default OnSelectLogicalChannels,
> 
> FastStartDisabled
> 
> 8:08.152 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: setup
> 
> 8:08.153 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Reading PDUs: callRef=7266
> 
> 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Read error (104): Connection res
> 
> et by peer
> 
> 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> 
> /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> 
> 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Call end reason for ip$localhost
> 
> /7266 set to EndedByTransportFail
> 
> 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending release complete PDU: ca
> 
> llRef=7266
> 
> 8:08.412 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: releaseComplete
> 
> 8:08.413 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Write PDU failed (32): Broken pi
> 
> pe
> 
> 8:08.414 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> 
> /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> 
> 8:08.414 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> 
> 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 clo
> 
> sing: connectionState=AwaitingSignalConnect
> 
> 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close
> 
> 8:08.416 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTerminat
> 
> ion for H225 Caller:82695d8
> 
> 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 H323Transport::Close
> 
> 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Signal channel closed.
> 
> 8:08.433 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 ter
> 
> minated.
> 
> 8:09.544 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1
> 
> 8:09.894 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> 
> its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> 
> 8:10.097 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> 
> its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> 
> 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeed
> 
> ed for converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P
> 
> 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim its. 160x120 --
> 352x288
> 
> 8:10.239 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> 
> 8:10.385 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> 
> 8:10.594 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>
> 
> 8:10.600 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>
> 
> 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15 k{sw} <3>
> 
> 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k {sw} <4>
> 
> 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>
> 
> 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>
> 
> 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k {sw} <7>
> 
> 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k {sw} <8>
> 
> 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>
> 
> 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> 
> 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 del eted.
> 
> 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> 
> -------------------
> 
> what the heck is the localhost doing in there?!? except upgrading all
> libraries and recompiling the kernel to suit my camera requirements I didn't
> change anything. :/
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
> To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem
> 
> 
> > Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 12:11, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> >
> > > (2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to buy
> > > another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)
> > >
> >
> > Philips-chipset based cameras (Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000, Philips
> > ToUCAM Pro) are the best: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
> >
> >
> > >
> > > BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)
> > >
> >
> > In a few months if everything goes well, I'm not doing the port myself
> > as I don't like window$ ;)
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >  _ Damien Sandras
> > (o- GnomeMeeting: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
> > //\ FOSDEM 2003:  http://www.fosdem.org
> > v_/_
> > H.323 phone:  callto://ils.seconix.com/dsandras@seconix.com
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 21:22, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> OK. I am trying to cotact Joao for the testing. In the meantime I tried to
> connect to some random peeps which have netmeeting and got this in the debug
> output:
> 

Do you mean that it failed with Joao ?
The log indicates "Connection reset by peer".
I wonder if your connection setup is correct, same for firewall rules.
I have no more clue about your problem and I think that you will have to
investigate for yourself. There is nothing more I can do, unfortunately,
for your problem remotely.
That log doesn't help, it says "Ended by transport fail", which is the
same kind of error as when you try to connect a down host.



> -------------------
> 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> 
> 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 RFC2833 Handler created
> 
> 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Created new connection: ip$local
> 
> host/7266
> 
> 8:07.901 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Started call thread
> 
> 8:08.149 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323TCP Started connection: host=24.50.
> 
> 147.246:1503, if=80.134.254.176:30005, handle=31
> 
> 8:08.150 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending Setup PDU
> 
> 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Check for Fast start by local en
> 
> dpoint
> 
> 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H245 Default OnSelectLogicalChannels,
> 
> FastStartDisabled
> 
> 8:08.152 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: setup
> 
> 8:08.153 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Reading PDUs: callRef=7266
> 
> 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Read error (104): Connection res
> 
> et by peer
> 
> 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> 
> /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> 
> 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Call end reason for ip$localhost
> 
> /7266 set to EndedByTransportFail
> 
> 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending release complete PDU: ca
> 
> llRef=7266
> 
> 8:08.412 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: releaseComplete
> 
> 8:08.413 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Write PDU failed (32): Broken pi
> 
> pe
> 
> 8:08.414 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> 
> /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> 
> 8:08.414 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> 
> 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 clo
> 
> sing: connectionState=AwaitingSignalConnect
> 
> 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close
> 
> 8:08.416 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTerminat
> 
> ion for H225 Caller:82695d8
> 
> 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 H323Transport::Close
> 
> 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Signal channel closed.
> 
> 8:08.433 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 ter
> 
> minated.
> 
> 8:09.544 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1
> 
> 8:09.894 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> 
> its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> 
> 8:10.097 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> 
> its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> 
> 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeed
> 
> ed for converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P
> 
> 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim its. 160x120 --
> 352x288
> 
> 8:10.239 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> 
> 8:10.385 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> 
> 8:10.594 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>
> 
> 8:10.600 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>
> 
> 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15 k{sw} <3>
> 
> 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k {sw} <4>
> 
> 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>
> 
> 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>
> 
> 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k {sw} <7>
> 
> 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k {sw} <8>
> 
> 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>
> 
> 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> 
> 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 del eted.
> 
> 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> 
> -------------------
> 
> what the heck is the localhost doing in there?!? except upgrading all
> libraries and recompiling the kernel to suit my camera requirements I didn't
> change anything. :/
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
> To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem
> 
> 
> > Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 12:11, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> >
> > > (2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to buy
> > > another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)
> > >
> >
> > Philips-chipset based cameras (Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000, Philips
> > ToUCAM Pro) are the best: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
> >
> >
> > >
> > > BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)
> > >
> >
> > In a few months if everything goes well, I'm not doing the port myself
> > as I don't like window$ ;)
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >  _ Damien Sandras
> > (o- GnomeMeeting: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
> > //\ FOSDEM 2003:  http://www.fosdem.org
> > v_/_
> > H.323 phone:  callto://ils.seconix.com/dsandras@seconix.com
> >
> >
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Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem
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No it didn't fail with Joao as he didn't show up yet. And I was trying to
connect to random peeps from seconix server to see if I can do some testing.
:) I was just wondering why does it appear to try connecting to localhost.

Thx for your patience with me again. :)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem


> Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 21:22, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> > OK. I am trying to cotact Joao for the testing. In the meantime I tried
to
> > connect to some random peeps which have netmeeting and got this in the
debug
> > output:
> >
>
> Do you mean that it failed with Joao ?
> The log indicates "Connection reset by peer".
> I wonder if your connection setup is correct, same for firewall rules.
> I have no more clue about your problem and I think that you will have to
> investigate for yourself. There is nothing more I can do, unfortunately,
> for your problem remotely.
> That log doesn't help, it says "Ended by transport fail", which is the
> same kind of error as when you try to connect a down host.
>
>
>
> > -------------------
> > 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> >
> > 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 RFC2833 Handler created
> >
> > 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Created new connection: ip$local
> >
> > host/7266
> >
> > 8:07.901 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Started call thread
> >
> > 8:08.149 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323TCP Started connection: host=24.50.
> >
> > 147.246:1503, if=80.134.254.176:30005, handle=31
> >
> > 8:08.150 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending Setup PDU
> >
> > 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Check for Fast start by local en
> >
> > dpoint
> >
> > 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H245 Default OnSelectLogicalChannels,
> >
> > FastStartDisabled
> >
> > 8:08.152 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: setup
> >
> > 8:08.153 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Reading PDUs: callRef=7266
> >
> > 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Read error (104): Connection res
> >
> > et by peer
> >
> > 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> >
> > /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> >
> > 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Call end reason for ip$localhost
> >
> > /7266 set to EndedByTransportFail
> >
> > 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending release complete PDU: ca
> >
> > llRef=7266
> >
> > 8:08.412 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: releaseComplete
> >
> > 8:08.413 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Write PDU failed (32): Broken pi
> >
> > pe
> >
> > 8:08.414 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> >
> > /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> >
> > 8:08.414 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> >
> > 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 clo
> >
> > sing: connectionState=AwaitingSignalConnect
> >
> > 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close
> >
> > 8:08.416 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTerminat
> >
> > ion for H225 Caller:82695d8
> >
> > 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 H323Transport::Close
> >
> > 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Signal channel closed.
> >
> > 8:08.433 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 ter
> >
> > minated.
> >
> > 8:09.544 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1
> >
> > 8:09.894 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> >
> > its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> >
> > 8:10.097 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> >
> > its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> >
> > 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeed
> >
> > ed for converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P
> >
> > 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim its. 160x120 --
> > 352x288
> >
> > 8:10.239 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> >
> > 8:10.385 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> >
> > 8:10.594 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>
> >
> > 8:10.600 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>
> >
> > 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15 k{sw} <3>
> >
> > 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k {sw} <4>
> >
> > 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>
> >
> > 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>
> >
> > 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k {sw} <7>
> >
> > 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k {sw} <8>
> >
> > 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>
> >
> > 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> >
> > 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 del eted.
> >
> > 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> >
> > -------------------
> >
> > what the heck is the localhost doing in there?!? except upgrading all
> > libraries and recompiling the kernel to suit my camera requirements I
didn't
> > change anything. :/
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
> > To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem
> >
> >
> > > Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 12:11, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> > >
> > > > (2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to
buy
> > > > another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)
> > > >
> > >
> > > Philips-chipset based cameras (Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000, Philips
> > > ToUCAM Pro) are the best: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)
> > > >
> > >
> > > In a few months if everything goes well, I'm not doing the port myself
> > > as I don't like window$ ;)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >  _ Damien Sandras
> > > (o- GnomeMeeting: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
> > > //\ FOSDEM 2003:  http://www.fosdem.org
> > > v_/_
> > > H.323 phone:  callto://ils.seconix.com/dsandras@seconix.com
> > >
> > >
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Le ven 20/12/2002 à 00:38, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> No it didn't fail with Joao as he didn't show up yet. And I was trying to
> connect to random peeps from seconix server to see if I can do some testing.
> :) I was just wondering why does it appear to try connecting to localhost.
> 
> Thx for your patience with me again. :)
> 

Bad idea, many people on seconix are there with broken setups.

It is not trying to contact localhost, localhost is your machine, and
ip$localhost means 'local connection'.

-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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Joao do you read your emails? I am trying to contact you for some testing.

Or if anyone else wants to help test... But please someone who has
Netmeeting and succesfully connected with it in the past to a gnomemeeting.

Thx. in advance for the help.

----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem


> adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de wrote:
>
> >OK. I asked him to reduce the quality yesterday and he said he had no
> >clue how to do that after fondling with it for about 10 minutes.:)I
> >will try to see if I can figure it out and help him on that one. :)
> >
> >
>
> Adrien,
>
> If you want to do some testing with other Netmeeting client ( other then
> your friend's ) you can drop me an e-mail and I'll give you my ICQ number
> (I hope you use it, if not, I'll tell you a way to use it without
> installing a client),
> and you can call me and test all you need .
> I'm used to work with netmeeting and I use it a lot with my brother (
> from Portugal
> to Netherlands - Cable to ADSL ).
> I use W2K Professional on Cable and a Vigor Router .
>
> Happy season Greetings to all !
>
> João Pedro
>
> jpedro.vf@netcabo.pt
>
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Hi,
I want to use Gnomemeeting on my Red Hat 8.0 linux machine. I am
integrating my linux desktop
with the Windows Domain. So I have some doubts regarding this.

What are the features available with Gnomemeeting?
Can we do everything with Gnomemeeting, whatever we can do with MS
NetMeeting?
Is Whiteboard Sharing, File Trasfer, Application sharing possible with
Gnomemeeting?
Are there any problems with gnomemeeting in communicating with
NetMeeting Users?
What are the features that gnomemeeting lacks in comparison with
NetMeeting?


I would appreciate any sort of help on this. 

Thanks in advance for your help,

Regards,
S.Pradeep Kumar


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Le ven 20/12/2002 à 20:52, Kumar, Pradeep (MED, TCS) a écrit :
> Hi,
> I want to use Gnomemeeting on my Red Hat 8.0 linux machine. I am
> integrating my linux desktop
> with the Windows Domain. So I have some doubts regarding this.
> 
> What are the features available with Gnomemeeting?
> Can we do everything with Gnomemeeting, whatever we can do with MS
> NetMeeting?
> Is Whiteboard Sharing, File Trasfer, Application sharing possible with
> Gnomemeeting?
> Are there any problems with gnomemeeting in communicating with
> NetMeeting Users?
> What are the features that gnomemeeting lacks in comparison with
> NetMeeting?
> 
> 
> I would appreciate any sort of help on this. 
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help,
> 
> Regards,
> S.Pradeep Kumar

Did you by chance have a look at the faq?

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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hi
I have gone through the mailing list archives.
But I still have most of my doubts cleared.

Thanks and Regards
Pradeep

-----Original Message-----
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Le ven 20/12/2002 =E0 20:52, Kumar, Pradeep (MED, TCS) a =E9crit :
> Hi,
> I want to use Gnomemeeting on my Red Hat 8.0 linux machine. I am
> integrating my linux desktop
> with the Windows Domain. So I have some doubts regarding this.
>=20
> What are the features available with Gnomemeeting?
> Can we do everything with Gnomemeeting, whatever we can do with MS
> NetMeeting?
> Is Whiteboard Sharing, File Trasfer, Application sharing possible =
with
> Gnomemeeting?
> Are there any problems with gnomemeeting in communicating with
> NetMeeting Users?
> What are the features that gnomemeeting lacks in comparison with
> NetMeeting?
>=20
>=20
> I would appreciate any sort of help on this.=20
>=20
> Thanks in advance for your help,
>=20
> Regards,
> S.Pradeep Kumar

Did you by chance have a look at the faq?

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In a few words:

- There is no T.120 in GnomeMeeting (application sharing, file
transfert)
- There should be no problem communicating with M$ users and most users
have no problem

For a detailed list of features that GnomeMeeting has and not
Netmeeting, or that Netmeeting has and not GnomeMeeting, you will have
to read the FAQ and try yourself and perhaps contribute back a document
about that. That is the power of OpenSource.

Le ven 20/12/2002 à 20:57, Kumar, Pradeep (MED, TCS) a écrit :
> hi
> I have gone through the mailing list archives.
> But I still have most of my doubts cleared.
> 
> Thanks and Regards
> Pradeep
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PUYDT Julien [mailto:julien.puydt@laposte.net]
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:55 PM
> To: 'gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org'
> Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Windows NetMeeting Vs Gnomemeeting
> 
> 
> Le ven 20/12/2002 à 20:52, Kumar, Pradeep (MED, TCS) a écrit :
> > Hi,
> > I want to use Gnomemeeting on my Red Hat 8.0 linux machine. I am
> > integrating my linux desktop
> > with the Windows Domain. So I have some doubts regarding this.
> > 
> > What are the features available with Gnomemeeting?
> > Can we do everything with Gnomemeeting, whatever we can do with MS
> > NetMeeting?
> > Is Whiteboard Sharing, File Trasfer, Application sharing possible with
> > Gnomemeeting?
> > Are there any problems with gnomemeeting in communicating with
> > NetMeeting Users?
> > What are the features that gnomemeeting lacks in comparison with
> > NetMeeting?
> > 
> > 
> > I would appreciate any sort of help on this. 
> > 
> > Thanks in advance for your help,
> > 
> > Regards,
> > S.Pradeep Kumar
> 
> Did you by chance have a look at the faq?
> 
> Snark on #gnomemeeting
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Hi List !

I'm not a network/firewall expert, so i forward here...

Matti

----------  Weitergeleitete Nachricht  ----------

Subject: GM 0.94 firewall security issues..
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:07:47 -0500
From: AG <agreen@bkaeg.org>
To: matthias@marksweb.de

Matti:

I noticed that GM FAQ doesn't explicityl list an IP address origin for
all GM/ILS server connections..

IOW, it appears that you just 'blindly' open the required ports ->
TCP ports 1720 and 30000-30010
UDP pors 5000:5003

I would like to setup some ipchains rules and I need to be sure that I
can verify traffic coming into those ports..

I'm old school and paranoid ;)

AG
"What you read today, will free you tomorrow" - ME
http://bkaeg.org

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Hi matti,

there are some points I don't understand.
> 
> I noticed that GM FAQ doesn't explicityl list an IP address origin for
> all GM/ILS server connections..

How should it be possible to define all possible IP addresses? Which one
does he mean?

> 
> IOW, it appears that you just 'blindly' open the required ports ->
> TCP ports 1720 and 30000-30010
> UDP pors 5000:5003
> 
> I would like to setup some ipchains rules and I need to be sure that I
> can verify traffic coming into those ports..

That really depends on his needings. With ipchains you can check the
packets for many aspects (source ip, destination ip and so on..), thus
we have to know what he wants to allow/reject.
He can verify packets, but how this works depends on his configuration.
We need more information!

> 
> I'm old school and paranoid ;)
> 
> AG
> "What you read today, will free you tomorrow" - ME
> http://bkaeg.org
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Hello, ...

I have a few questions about the docklet thingy.

I asked about it on the irc channel and matti sugested i ask about it
here.

Anyway, i am running gnomemeeting 0.94.1 on a debian/sid box, using
gnome 2. I was lead to believe that the docklet thingy would somehow
'dock' gnomemeeting in one of my panels or something such, especially
usefull if you run GM hidden. But when i toggle the docklet item in the
view entry, nothing special seem to happen. I don't see any changes on
both of my gnome 2 panels, so i guess the docklet doesn't work on
gnome2, right ?

Friendly,

Sven Luther

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Le sam 21/12/2002 à 23:17, Sven Luther a écrit :
> Anyway, i am running gnomemeeting 0.94.1 on a debian/sid box, using
> gnome 2. I was lead to believe that the docklet thingy would somehow
> 'dock' gnomemeeting in one of my panels or something such, especially
> usefull if you run GM hidden. But when i toggle the docklet item in the
> view entry, nothing special seem to happen. I don't see any changes on
> both of my gnome 2 panels, so i guess the docklet doesn't work on
> gnome2, right ?

Wrong ;)
Check :
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101791
You need to install the system_tray_applet in your panel, and that applet will dock 
the new docklet (called now "Status Icon" in the "Notification Area").

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Subject: [GnomeMeeting-list] No local video on second launch of Gnomemeeting
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Hi,

I've looked through the archives and can't see anyone else having this=20
problem.  I hope you can help.

I have installed Gnomemeeting 0.94.1 on a freshly installed Mandrake 9 li=
nux=20
machine. =20
I have a Trust SpaceC@m 300XS that is correctly recognised on the USB bus=
 and=20
the hotplug scripts appear to be doing their job ok. =20

Gnomemeeting displays local video on the first launch of the application,=
 but=20
when you have closed it and you re-launch it, I get no local video.  =20
Additionally, I can't actually close the application - it de-registers fr=
om=20
the ILS, but doesn't close properly.

Any help on this would be much appreciated.  I just bought my Dad a webca=
m for=20
Christmas and hoped we would be able to video-conference!

Thanks in advance,

Andrew

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Le dim 22/12/2002 à 19:31, Andrew Mulheirn a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I've looked through the archives and can't see anyone else having this 
> problem.  I hope you can help.
> 
> I have installed Gnomemeeting 0.94.1 on a freshly installed Mandrake 9 linux 
> machine.  
> I have a Trust SpaceC@m 300XS that is correctly recognised on the USB bus and 
> the hotplug scripts appear to be doing their job ok.  
> 
> Gnomemeeting displays local video on the first launch of the application, but 
> when you have closed it and you re-launch it, I get no local video.   

What do you get? An error?
Try to kill ESD. Mandrake has a bug that makes ESD spawn and ESD is
trying to open the video device.

You can also do an export ESD_NO_SPAWN=1 before launching GM.

> Additionally, I can't actually close the application - it de-registers from 
> the ILS, but doesn't close properly.
> 

It seems to indicate a driver bug.

> Any help on this would be much appreciated.  I just bought my Dad a webcam for 
> Christmas and hoped we would be able to video-conference!
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Andrew
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Some additional information:

I have set "noapic" on the append line of lilo.conf.

The camera works for a while on first launch but eventually, video freeze=
s. =20
Messages like "usb_control bulk_msg timeout" appear in the messages file.

Unloading and reloading the usb-uhci module seems to bring the video back=
=2E

I've heard there is an alternative uhci module - should I be using that?

Thanks and regards,

Andrew


On Sunday 22 Dec 2002 6:31 pm, Andrew Mulheirn wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've looked through the archives and can't see anyone else having this
> problem.  I hope you can help.
>
> I have installed Gnomemeeting 0.94.1 on a freshly installed Mandrake 9
> linux machine.
> I have a Trust SpaceC@m 300XS that is correctly recognised on the USB b=
us
> and the hotplug scripts appear to be doing their job ok.
>
> Gnomemeeting displays local video on the first launch of the applicatio=
n,
> but when you have closed it and you re-launch it, I get no local video.
> Additionally, I can't actually close the application - it de-registers =
from
> the ILS, but doesn't close properly.
>
> Any help on this would be much appreciated.  I just bought my Dad a web=
cam
> for Christmas and hoped we would be able to video-conference!
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Andrew


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Le dim 22/12/2002 à 20:38, Andrew Mulheirn a écrit :
> Some additional information:
> 

You didn't answer my previous mail where I was asking what you mean by
"doesn't work". Is there an error message?
Also try the tricks I gave you.

> I have set "noapic" on the append line of lilo.conf.
> 
> The camera works for a while on first launch but eventually, video freezes.  
> Messages like "usb_control bulk_msg timeout" appear in the messages file.
> 

I think that you have an USB or webcam driver bug.
I would suggest you to contact the driver author, we are not USB
experts. Perhaps he could try GnomeMeeting with his driver and see what
happens. If you have any feedback, please contribute it back here.

> Unloading and reloading the usb-uhci module seems to bring the video back.
> 
> I've heard there is an alternative uhci module - should I be using that?

You can try, I think there is uhci and ohci, and that there are 2
versions of uhci, but I can be wrong.


> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> On Sunday 22 Dec 2002 6:31 pm, Andrew Mulheirn wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've looked through the archives and can't see anyone else having this
> > problem.  I hope you can help.
> >
> > I have installed Gnomemeeting 0.94.1 on a freshly installed Mandrake 9
> > linux machine.
> > I have a Trust SpaceC@m 300XS that is correctly recognised on the USB bus
> > and the hotplug scripts appear to be doing their job ok.
> >
> > Gnomemeeting displays local video on the first launch of the application,
> > but when you have closed it and you re-launch it, I get no local video.
> > Additionally, I can't actually close the application - it de-registers from
> > the ILS, but doesn't close properly.
> >
> > Any help on this would be much appreciated.  I just bought my Dad a webcam
> > for Christmas and hoped we would be able to video-conference!
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Andrew
> 
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Re-hello,

I try to compile GM CVS 2002-12-22 by myself on Debian unstable.

First, I found a list of dependances's packages by searching from the
gnomemeeting-cvs for Debian (cvs-20021205.deb) and I installed all of
them.

Then, I grabbed pwlib, openh323 from their cvs server, and
gnomemeeting-cvs-2002-12-22 from the download page. I put them under
the directory /opt.

For openh323, I applied the h261codec.cxx.patch.

Having all the sources, I started to compile pwlib, then openh323.
And I copied the *.so.* into /usr/lib. So far so good.

But for gnomemeeting, I cannot make the Makefile with autogen.sh.
If it's neccessary, here are all the messages generated by autogen.sh:

=========================

export PWLIBDIR=/opt/pwlib
export OPENH323DIR=/opt/openh323

dauphin:# ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --with-ptlib-includes=/opt/pwlib/include/ptlib --with-openh323-includes=/opt/openh323/include 

/usr/bin/gnome-autogen.sh
processing .
Creating ./aclocal.m4 ...
Running glib-gettextize...  Ignore non-fatal messages.
Copying file po/Makefile.in
Copying file po/Makefile.in.in

Please add the files
  codeset.m4 gettext.m4 glibc21.m4 iconv.m4 isc-posix.m4 lcmessage.m4
    progtest.m4
from the /usr/share/aclocal directory to your autoconf macro directory
or directly to your aclocal.m4 file.
You will also need config.guess and config.sub, which you can get from
ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/config/.

Making ./aclocal.m4 writable ...
Running intltoolize...
patching file po/Makefile.in.in
Hunk #1 succeeded at 21 (offset 7 lines).
Hunk #2 succeeded at 41 (offset 2 lines).
Hunk #3 succeeded at 94 with fuzz 2 (offset 2 lines).
Hunk #4 succeeded at 203 (offset -15 lines).
Hunk #5 succeeded at 214 (offset -15 lines).
Running libtoolize...
You should add the contents of `/usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4' to `aclocal.m4'.
Running aclocal -I /usr/share/aclocal/gnome2-macros  ...
aclocal: configure.in: 53: macro `AM_GCONF_SOURCE_2' not found in library
Running autoheader...
autoheader: error: AC_CONFIG_HEADERS not found in configure.in
Running automake --gnu  ...
configure.in: 9: required file `./config.h.in' not found
Running autoconf ...
Running ./configure --enable-maintainer-mode --enable-compile-warnings --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --with-ptlib-includes=/opt/pwlib/include/ptlib --with-openh323-includes=/opt/openh323/include ...
checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
./configure: line 1411: syntax error near unexpected token `gnomemeeting,'
./configure: line 1411: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'

dauphin:# 

=========================

No Makefile is generated.

Could somebody help me to correct these errors before continueing, please ?

Thanks in advance,

Truong

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Le dim 22/12/2002 à 23:37, Truong a écrit :

> checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
> ./configure: line 1411: syntax error near unexpected token `gnomemeeting,'
> ./configure: line 1411: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'
> 

Hard to tell without knowing what is line 1411 on your system.
I would suggest you to upgrade autoconf/automake.
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Damien Sandras wrote:

>Le dim 22/12/2002 à 23:37, Truong a écrit :
>
>  
>
>>checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
>>./configure: line 1411: syntax error near unexpected token `gnomemeeting,'
>>./configure: line 1411: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Hard to tell without knowing what is line 1411 on your system.
>I would suggest you to upgrade autoconf/automake.
>  
>
I run RH 8 , installed a lot a -devel packages as the program was 
conplaining, installed
from sources automake (GNU automake) 1.7.2,  autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.57,
ltmain.sh (GNU libtool) 1.4.3 (1.922.2.110 2002/10/23 01:39:54) and a 
few other
things and also get the :

./configure: line 1411: syntax error near unexpected token `gnomemeeting,'
./configure: line 1411: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'

Line 1411 at configure is only `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'

I also have a few other problems like :

Makefile.am:22: INSTALL_SCHEMAS does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at 
/usr/local/bin/automake lin
e 4352.
lib/Makefile.am:5: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
lib/Makefile.am:5:
lib/Makefile.am:5: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add 
`AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
lib/Makefile.am:5: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and `autoconf' again.
lib/Makefile.am: installing `./depcomp'
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not 
appear in AM
_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in 
AM_CONDITI
ONAL
lib/widgets/Makefile.am:1: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
lib/widgets/Makefile.am:1:
lib/widgets/Makefile.am:1: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add 
`AC_PROG_
LIBTOOL'
lib/widgets/Makefile.am:1: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and 
`autoconf' ag
ain.
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not 
appear in AM
_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in 
AM_CONDITI
ONAL
lib/xdap/Makefile.am:1: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
lib/xdap/Makefile.am:1:
lib/xdap/Makefile.am:1: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add 
`AC_PROG_LIB
TOOL'
lib/xdap/Makefile.am:1: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and 
`autoconf' again
.
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not 
appear in AM
_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in 
AM_CONDITI
ONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCXX does not 
appear in A
M_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in 
AM_CONDITI
ONAL
Makefile.am:22: INSTALL_SCHEMAS does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at 
/usr/local/bin/automake lin
e 4352.
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not 
appear in AM
_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in 
AM_CONDITI
ONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not 
appear in AM
_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in 
AM_CONDITI
ONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not 
appear in AM
_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in 
AM_CONDITI
ONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCXX does not 
appear in A
M_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in 
AM_CONDITI
ONAL
Running autoconf ...
configure.in:5: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE
      If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.
      See the Autoconf documentation.
configure.in:8: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_MAINTAINER_MODE
configure.in:9: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_CONFIG_HEADER
configure.in:11: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_INTLTOOL
configure.in:13: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PROG_LIBTOOL
configure.in:53: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_GCONF_SOURCE_2
configure.in:242: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PATH_SDL
configure.in:395: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_GLIB_GNU_GETTEXT
configure.in:427: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_CONDITIONAL

All this means that I have to run libtool, atomake and autoconf with 
special parameters
for configure from gnomemeeting to compile properly?
I know I could just ask for the corresponding gnomemeeting.rpm and 
install it but I'd like to
 get a litlle deeper into understanding how all this works in Linux ... 
if you can spare a few
minutes Damien ( I know the day only has 24hours ... ).

A merry Christmas and a hapy New Year to all !

João Pedro


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Le lun 23/12/2002 à 12:49, João Pedro a écrit :
> I run RH 8 , installed a lot a -devel packages as the program was 
> conplaining, installed
> from sources automake (GNU automake) 1.7.2,  autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.57,
> ltmain.sh (GNU libtool) 1.4.3 (1.922.2.110 2002/10/23 01:39:54) and a 
> few other
> things and also get the :
> 
> ./configure: line 1411: syntax error near unexpected token `gnomemeeting,'
> ./configure: line 1411: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'
> 
> Line 1411 at configure is only `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'
> 

My automake is 1.4. No idea about this, but all gnome programs are
compiled with automake 1.4, perhaps your automake is too new. If you
have time, you can contribute a patch, it is perhaps an API difference
between both versions.

> I also have a few other problems like :
> 
> configure.in:8: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_MAINTAINER_MODE
> configure.in:9: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_CONFIG_HEADER
> configure.in:11: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_INTLTOOL
> configure.in:13: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PROG_LIBTOOL
> configure.in:53: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_GCONF_SOURCE_2
> configure.in:242: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PATH_SDL
> configure.in:395: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_GLIB_GNU_GETTEXT
> configure.in:427: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_CONDITIONAL
> 


You need to install intltool, libtool, gettext, sdl, and gconf, + their
devel versions.

> All this means that I have to run libtool, atomake and autoconf with 
> special parameters
> for configure from gnomemeeting to compile properly?

No, you just need to install the devel packages so that the automake
macros are available in your sustem.

> I know I could just ask for the corresponding gnomemeeting.rpm and 
> install it but I'd like to
>  get a litlle deeper into understanding how all this works in Linux ... 
> if you can spare a few
> minutes Damien ( I know the day only has 24hours ... ).
> 
> A merry Christmas and a hapy New Year to all !
> 

Merry christmas and happy new year! :)
If you can compile GM from CVS, then you can consider yourself as an
expert ;))

> João Pedro
> 
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% *** Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> wrote: ***
% Le dim 22/12/2002 =E0 23:37, Truong a =E9crit :
%=20
% > checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
% > ./configure: line 1411: syntax error near unexpected token `gnomemeetin=
g,'
% > ./configure: line 1411: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'
% >=20
%=20
% Hard to tell without knowing what is line 1411 on your system.

-------------------------
dauphin:# cd /opt/gm-20021222/
dauphin:# vim +1411 configure

AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)

-------------------------

Line 1411 in the configure file contents the same string as in the error.


% I would suggest you to upgrade autoconf/automake.


-------------------------
dauphin:# apt-cache policy automake1.4
automake1.4:
  Installed: 1:1.4-p6-5
  Candidate: 1:1.4-p6-5
  Version Table:
 *** 1:1.4-p6-5 0
        500 http://ftp.belnet.be testing/main Packages
        500 http://ftp.belnet.be unstable/main Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
  =20

dauphin:# apt-cache policy autoconf  =20
autoconf:
  Installed: 2.57-1
  Candidate: 2.57-1
  Version Table:
 *** 2.57-1 0
        500 http://ftp.belnet.be testing/main Packages
        500 http://ftp.belnet.be unstable/main Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     2.53-2 0
        500 http://ftp.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be stable/main Packages

-------------------------
					   =20
automake (v1.4-p6) and autoconf (v2.57) are already upgraded.

Anyway..  "Joyeux No=EBl et Bonne Ann=E9e"

Just take a good time with the family.


--=20
  Truong <tphuong@wol.be>


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>
> there are some points I don't understand.
>>
>> I noticed that GM FAQ doesn't explicityl list an IP address origin for
>> all GM/ILS server connections..
>
> How should it be possible to define all possible IP addresses? Which
> one does he mean?

AG> IIRC, The old Netmeeting pkg req'd all clients to log into a central
AG> ULS. Does GM/ILS also work in this manner? If so, I would rather set up
AG> my firewall rules to allow traffic from this IP address only.
AG> For instance, I would simply use the IP address for ils.seconix.com and
AG> only allow traffic originating from this domain.

>>
>> IOW, it appears that you just 'blindly' open the required ports -> TCP
>> ports 1720 and 30000-30010
>> UDP pors 5000:5003
>>
>
> That really depends on his needings. With ipchains you can check the
> packets for many aspects (source ip, destination ip and so on..), thus
> we have to know what he wants to allow/reject.
> He can verify packets, but how this works depends on his configuration.
> We need more information!

AG> I'm using IP chains and I typically deny all traffic that I've not
AG> explicitly added to my rules. Hopefully, my statement above will help
AG> clarify my intentions. I do not simply wish to open my LAN to the world.




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Le lun 23/12/2002 à 23:26, AG a écrit :

> AG> IIRC, The old Netmeeting pkg req'd all clients to log into a central
> AG> ULS. Does GM/ILS also work in this manner? If so, I would rather set up

Yes, but it is not required, that is an option.

> AG> my firewall rules to allow traffic from this IP address only.
> AG> For instance, I would simply use the IP address for ils.seconix.com and
> AG> only allow traffic originating from this domain.
> 

Even if somebody is registered on ILS, he will always call you with his
own IP and not the ILS IP.



> AG> I'm using IP chains and I typically deny all traffic that I've not
> AG> explicitly added to my rules. Hopefully, my statement above will help
> AG> clarify my intentions. I do not simply wish to open my LAN to the world.
> 

Only allowing a given IP range to call you using ipchains, is (nearly)
like only allowing a given IP range to answer to your http requests.

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> > AG> I'm using IP chains and I typically deny all traffic that I've not
> > AG> explicitly added to my rules. Hopefully, my statement above will help
> > AG> clarify my intentions. I do not simply wish to open my LAN to the world.
> > 
> 
> Only allowing a given IP range to call you using ipchains, is (nearly)
> like only allowing a given IP range to answer to your http requests.
> 

Indeed, it is just a "danger" during a GnomeMeeting Session on your
workstation. If GnomeMeeting isn't running on the client, there is no
service which replies on requests (on port 1720). By the way, my last
sentence doesn't mean that it is immediately insecure if GnomeMeeting
runs, it would just be possible if there were some bugs.

You do not open the LAN to the world. What you have to do is
port-forwarding to only one client, thus the behaviour or security of
the rest is not influenced (you defined one destination).

There is one possibiliy to restrict the incoming requests: define and
allow all IP addresses which are allowed to phone you. But I would not
suggest you to use this one.

Cheers,
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Hello,

First, I'm not an expert of Debian system and Gnomemeeting, but I'am a
very new fan of VoIP and VideoConference under GNU Linux. So if there is
any errors in the script attached, please give me corrections or
suggestions.

I would like to learn how to compile the gnomemeeting snapshots by
myself and I got many errors. Most of them are dued to missing
dependancies or tools, not because of the source itsself.

You will find small note, attached with this mail, of all the dependancy
packages under Debian before getting to build the GM-CVS. Hopefully, you
will be able to compile it successfully. But, please consider the GM
snapshot is unstable and do not complaint to the authors if GM-CVS has
crashed your system.

Many thanks (in alphabetical order) to Damien, Fabrice, Matthias, Matti,
Snark, and others on the channel irc.gnome.org #gnomemeeting =;)

Truong

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Thanks a lot for this contribution :)

I would also add that the CVS version can be compiled without gnome
support (you loose only some features), and that in this case, you need
less libraries.


Le mer 25/12/2002 à 00:59, Truong a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> First, I'm not an expert of Debian system and Gnomemeeting, but I'am a
> very new fan of VoIP and VideoConference under GNU Linux. So if there is
> any errors in the script attached, please give me corrections or
> suggestions.
> 
> I would like to learn how to compile the gnomemeeting snapshots by
> myself and I got many errors. Most of them are dued to missing
> dependancies or tools, not because of the source itsself.
> 
> You will find small note, attached with this mail, of all the dependancy
> packages under Debian before getting to build the GM-CVS. Hopefully, you
> will be able to compile it successfully. But, please consider the GM
> snapshot is unstable and do not complaint to the authors if GM-CVS has
> crashed your system.
> 
> Many thanks (in alphabetical order) to Damien, Fabrice, Matthias, Matti,
> Snark, and others on the channel irc.gnome.org #gnomemeeting =;)
> 
> Truong
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ummm... what means "without gnome support"? does it mean you can run it also
on KDE or what? if so, how can you compile it without gnome?

Merry X-Mas to all!

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> Thanks a lot for this contribution :)
>
> I would also add that the CVS version can be compiled without gnome
> support (you loose only some features), and that in this case, you need
> less libraries.
>
>
> Le mer 25/12/2002 à 00:59, Truong a écrit :
> > Hello,
> >
> > First, I'm not an expert of Debian system and Gnomemeeting, but I'am a
> > very new fan of VoIP and VideoConference under GNU Linux. So if there is
> > any errors in the script attached, please give me corrections or
> > suggestions.
> >
> > I would like to learn how to compile the gnomemeeting snapshots by
> > myself and I got many errors. Most of them are dued to missing
> > dependancies or tools, not because of the source itsself.
> >
> > You will find small note, attached with this mail, of all the dependancy
> > packages under Debian before getting to build the GM-CVS. Hopefully, you
> > will be able to compile it successfully. But, please consider the GM
> > snapshot is unstable and do not complaint to the authors if GM-CVS has
> > crashed your system.
> >
> > Many thanks (in alphabetical order) to Damien, Fabrice, Matthias, Matti,
> > Snark, and others on the channel irc.gnome.org #gnomemeeting =;)
> >
> > Truong
> --
> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
>
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Le mer 25/12/2002 à 12:48, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> ummm... what means "without gnome support"? does it mean you can run it also
> on KDE or what? if so, how can you compile it without gnome?
> 
> Merry X-Mas to all!
> 

GnomeMeeting already runs on KDE and has several KDE users despite its
name. 
All it does is reimplementing things in gnome libraries in pure GTK
(menus for example). Compiling without gnome support means that you
don't need all gnome libraries to compile GnomeMeeting, only GTK+,
GConf, SDL (optional), libXML and OpenH323 are needed. Of course, you
loose GNOME specific features :
- Configuration assistant
- GNOME session support
- BONOBO support (you can currently do a gnomemeeting -c callto://url,
it will start and call the right url or pass the url to an already
running GnomeMeeting)
- About box

But you need a few libraries less. We will always provide GNOME
dependant packages, but anti-GNOME KDE users can compile GM without them
and have less features.

Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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so do you have to pass a parameter or edit something to compile without
gnome support?

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> Le mer 25/12/2002 à 12:48, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> > ummm... what means "without gnome support"? does it mean you can run it
also
> > on KDE or what? if so, how can you compile it without gnome?
> >
> > Merry X-Mas to all!
> >
>
> GnomeMeeting already runs on KDE and has several KDE users despite its
> name.
> All it does is reimplementing things in gnome libraries in pure GTK
> (menus for example). Compiling without gnome support means that you
> don't need all gnome libraries to compile GnomeMeeting, only GTK+,
> GConf, SDL (optional), libXML and OpenH323 are needed. Of course, you
> loose GNOME specific features :
> - Configuration assistant
> - GNOME session support
> - BONOBO support (you can currently do a gnomemeeting -c callto://url,
> it will start and call the right url or pass the url to an already
> running GnomeMeeting)
> - About box
>
> But you need a few libraries less. We will always provide GNOME
> dependant packages, but anti-GNOME KDE users can compile GM without them
> and have less features.
>
> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
>
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list


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> so do you have to pass a parameter or edit something to compile without
> gnome support?

./configure --without-gnome <your other flags>

>
> Best regards,
> Adrian Golumbovici
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
> To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] dependancies needed
> tocompileGnomemeeting-cvs under Debian
>
>
>> Le mer 25/12/2002 à 12:48, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
>> > ummm... what means "without gnome support"? does it mean you can run
>> it
> also
>> > on KDE or what? if so, how can you compile it without gnome?
>> >
>> > Merry X-Mas to all!
>> >
>>
>> GnomeMeeting already runs on KDE and has several KDE users despite its
>> name.
>> All it does is reimplementing things in gnome libraries in pure GTK
>> (menus for example). Compiling without gnome support means that you
>> don't need all gnome libraries to compile GnomeMeeting, only GTK+,
>> GConf, SDL (optional), libXML and OpenH323 are needed. Of course, you
>> loose GNOME specific features :
>> - Configuration assistant
>> - GNOME session support
>> - BONOBO support (you can currently do a gnomemeeting -c callto://url,
>> it will start and call the right url or pass the url to an already
>> running GnomeMeeting)
>> - About box
>>
>> But you need a few libraries less. We will always provide GNOME
>> dependant packages, but anti-GNOME KDE users can compile GM without
>> them and have less features.
>>
>> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
>> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
>
> _______________________________________________
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hi,

I use gnomeeting from debian testing/sid

carles@pinux:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i gnomemeeting
ii  gnomemeeting   0.94.1-1       H323 Compatible Netmeeting clone for the
Gno
carles@pinux:~$

And, after a few minutes of use video for receiving:

(gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289
(g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289
(g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1307
(g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1325
(g_object_get_qdata): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(gnomemeeting:27849): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkcolor.c: line 61
(gdk_colormap_get_visual): assertion `GDK_IS_COLORMAP (colormap)' failed
carles@pinux:~$


I don't know if this is a problem with gnomemeeting or some libraries. But
it's possible that somebody knows anything :-)

I have the programs and libraries updated.

I test it with a netmeeting or with a windows ohphone.

Thank you very much.

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The place to look for such things is bugzilla.
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98179 describes your bug,
shows a backtrace and indicates that the bug was fixed in CVS on 12
november, ie 2 months ago.

I think (but it was never confirmed) that hiding the statistics part is
enough to prevent the bug to appear.

Le mer 25/12/2002 à 19:11, Carles Pina i Estany a écrit :
> hi,
> 
> I use gnomeeting from debian testing/sid
> 
> carles@pinux:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i gnomemeeting
> ii  gnomemeeting   0.94.1-1       H323 Compatible Netmeeting clone for the
> Gno
> carles@pinux:~$
> 
> And, after a few minutes of use video for receiving:
> 
> (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289
> (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> 
> (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289
> (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> 
> (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1307
> (g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> 
> (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1325
> (g_object_get_qdata): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> 
> (gnomemeeting:27849): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkcolor.c: line 61
> (gdk_colormap_get_visual): assertion `GDK_IS_COLORMAP (colormap)' failed
> carles@pinux:~$
> 
> 
> I don't know if this is a problem with gnomemeeting or some libraries. But
> it's possible that somebody knows anything :-)
> 
> I have the programs and libraries updated.
> 
> I test it with a netmeeting or with a windows ohphone.
> 
> Thank you very much.
-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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Hi,

Ok, thanks very much

The next bug I will use bugzilla :-)

two weeks ago I compiled the CVS versions but then it was other error
(libraries, "mea culpa")


On 25 Dec 2002, Damien Sandras wrote:

> The place to look for such things is bugzilla.
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D98179 describes your bug,
> shows a backtrace and indicates that the bug was fixed in CVS on 12
> november, ie 2 months ago.
>
> I think (but it was never confirmed) that hiding the statistics part is
> enough to prevent the bug to appear.
>
> Le mer 25/12/2002 =E0 19:11, Carles Pina i Estany a =E9crit :
> > hi,
> >
> > I use gnomeeting from debian testing/sid
> >
> > carles@pinux:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i gnomemeeting
> > ii  gnomemeeting   0.94.1-1       H323 Compatible Netmeeting clone for =
the
> > Gno
> > carles@pinux:~$
> >
> > And, after a few minutes of use video for receiving:
> >
> > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 12=
89
> > (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> >
> > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 12=
89
> > (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> >
> > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 13=
07
> > (g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> >
> > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 13=
25
> > (g_object_get_qdata): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> >
> > (gnomemeeting:27849): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkcolor.c: line 61
> > (gdk_colormap_get_visual): assertion `GDK_IS_COLORMAP (colormap)' faile=
d
> > carles@pinux:~$
> >
> >
> > I don't know if this is a problem with gnomemeeting or some libraries. =
But
> > it's possible that somebody knows anything :-)
> >
> > I have the programs and libraries updated.
> >
> > I test it with a netmeeting or with a windows ohphone.
> >
> > Thank you very much.
> --
> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
>

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we provide debian snapshots of CVS on
ftp://www.gnomemeeting.org/gnomemeeting-cvs

They should be stable...

Le mer 25/12/2002 à 20:59, Carles Pina i Estany a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> Ok, thanks very much
> 
> The next bug I will use bugzilla :-)
> 
> two weeks ago I compiled the CVS versions but then it was other error
> (libraries, "mea culpa")
> 
> 
> On 25 Dec 2002, Damien Sandras wrote:
> 
> > The place to look for such things is bugzilla.
> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98179 describes your bug,
> > shows a backtrace and indicates that the bug was fixed in CVS on 12
> > november, ie 2 months ago.
> >
> > I think (but it was never confirmed) that hiding the statistics part is
> > enough to prevent the bug to appear.
> >
> > Le mer 25/12/2002 à 19:11, Carles Pina i Estany a écrit :
> > > hi,
> > >
> > > I use gnomeeting from debian testing/sid
> > >
> > > carles@pinux:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i gnomemeeting
> > > ii  gnomemeeting   0.94.1-1       H323 Compatible Netmeeting clone for the
> > > Gno
> > > carles@pinux:~$
> > >
> > > And, after a few minutes of use video for receiving:
> > >
> > > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289
> > > (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> > >
> > > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289
> > > (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> > >
> > > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1307
> > > (g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> > >
> > > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1325
> > > (g_object_get_qdata): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> > >
> > > (gnomemeeting:27849): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkcolor.c: line 61
> > > (gdk_colormap_get_visual): assertion `GDK_IS_COLORMAP (colormap)' failed
> > > carles@pinux:~$
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't know if this is a problem with gnomemeeting or some libraries. But
> > > it's possible that somebody knows anything :-)
> > >
> > > I have the programs and libraries updated.
> > >
> > > I test it with a netmeeting or with a windows ohphone.
> > >
> > > Thank you very much.
> > --
> > Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
> >
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> >
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Does anyone know of any good web cameras on the market right now that
are support by the stock Redhat 8 distro?

Also, do I need to setup a symlink to that USB camera from /dev/video0?

Thanks in advance!

Ryan


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I always suggest to buy camera based on the philips chipset.
Logitech Quickcam Pro 3000 and 4000 for example are excellent choices.

Le jeu 26/12/2002 à 21:57, Ryan Nix a écrit :
> Does anyone know of any good web cameras on the market right now that
> are support by the stock Redhat 8 distro?
> 
> Also, do I need to setup a symlink to that USB camera from /dev/video0?
> 

No, it should automatically work.

> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Ryan
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Damien Sandras wrote:
> I always suggest to buy camera based on the philips chipset.
> Logitech Quickcam Pro 3000 and 4000 for example are excellent choices.
> 

and so i bought one hehe,
but you should install the PWCX modules in additon. :)
at least if you don t like the video to be stamp sized.

btw i don t know for 4000, but 3000 works just fine, ryan :)

cheers,
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Hello,
I have a problem with the gnomemeeting,  to be honist I am a newbie with 
gnome products and I hope that I find someone how helps me.

The problem is the following:
I like to get gnomemeeting up and running to build up a connection from 
Germany to the USA.

For the moment I try to get this tool working between to Linux machines.
One is installed with SuSE7.3 and the other one with SuSE 8.0.
The used soundsystem is ALSA and I can hear the sound. E.G. kmidi is running.

The used webcam is a Philips 730k model.

When I start gnomemeeting the video connetction is working but I get no audio 
transmitted.
Both PCs are in the same subnet and no firewalls are active.
In the controlcenter the full duplex option is turned on.

And I still get the error message/warning that the system is not able to open 
the audio channel.

Thanks for the time reading this mail and I hope to find some help any idear 
or private discussion is welcomed.


Joerg Demtroeder


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Le ven 27/12/2002 à 10:53, Joerg Demtroeder a écrit :

> When I start gnomemeeting the video connetction is working but I get no audio 
> transmitted.

> And I still get the error message/warning that the system is not able to open 
> the audio channel.

Read the faq, and make sure you defined the good devices as in/out
devices...

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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Le ven 27/12/2002 =E0 13:01, PUYDT Julien a =E9crit :
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Make sure that the module for your internal microphone is correctly
loaded, and that you chose this device in the preferences.
The sound channel being unable to open means that another program is
probably blocking the soundcard. Play with lsof or fuser to know which
one.

Le ven 27/12/2002 à 10:53, Joerg Demtroeder a écrit :
> Hello,
> I have a problem with the gnomemeeting,  to be honist I am a newbie with 
> gnome products and I hope that I find someone how helps me.
> 
> The problem is the following:
> I like to get gnomemeeting up and running to build up a connection from 
> Germany to the USA.
> 
> For the moment I try to get this tool working between to Linux machines.
> One is installed with SuSE7.3 and the other one with SuSE 8.0.
> The used soundsystem is ALSA and I can hear the sound. E.G. kmidi is running.
> 
> The used webcam is a Philips 730k model.
> 
> When I start gnomemeeting the video connetction is working but I get no audio 
> transmitted.
> Both PCs are in the same subnet and no firewalls are active.
> In the controlcenter the full duplex option is turned on.
> 
> And I still get the error message/warning that the system is not able to open 
> the audio channel.
> 
> Thanks for the time reading this mail and I hope to find some help any idear 
> or private discussion is welcomed.
> 
> 
> Joerg Demtroeder
> 
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We have investigated the problem and it appears that when Netmeeting for
XP connects to GnomeMeeting, and only when Netmeeting is sending video,
it disconnects after a few seconds. The problem is due to a bug in
Netmeeting XP, but there is a workaround (thanks Derek for finding
this):
- Remove SendMiscCommand in openh323/src/h261codec.cxx
- Recompile
or wait for the next release of OpenH323/GnomeMeeting

That fixes the problem.

Le ven 20/12/2002 à 00:38, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> No it didn't fail with Joao as he didn't show up yet. And I was trying to
> connect to random peeps from seconix server to see if I can do some testing.
> :) I was just wondering why does it appear to try connecting to localhost.
> 
> Thx for your patience with me again. :)
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
> To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem
> 
> 
> > Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 21:22, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> > > OK. I am trying to cotact Joao for the testing. In the meantime I tried
> to
> > > connect to some random peeps which have netmeeting and got this in the
> debug
> > > output:
> > >
> >
> > Do you mean that it failed with Joao ?
> > The log indicates "Connection reset by peer".
> > I wonder if your connection setup is correct, same for firewall rules.
> > I have no more clue about your problem and I think that you will have to
> > investigate for yourself. There is nothing more I can do, unfortunately,
> > for your problem remotely.
> > That log doesn't help, it says "Ended by transport fail", which is the
> > same kind of error as when you try to connect a down host.
> >
> >
> >
> > > -------------------
> > > 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> > >
> > > 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 RFC2833 Handler created
> > >
> > > 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Created new connection: ip$local
> > >
> > > host/7266
> > >
> > > 8:07.901 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Started call thread
> > >
> > > 8:08.149 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323TCP Started connection: host=24.50.
> > >
> > > 147.246:1503, if=80.134.254.176:30005, handle=31
> > >
> > > 8:08.150 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending Setup PDU
> > >
> > > 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Check for Fast start by local en
> > >
> > > dpoint
> > >
> > > 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H245 Default OnSelectLogicalChannels,
> > >
> > > FastStartDisabled
> > >
> > > 8:08.152 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: setup
> > >
> > > 8:08.153 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Reading PDUs: callRef=7266
> > >
> > > 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Read error (104): Connection res
> > >
> > > et by peer
> > >
> > > 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> > >
> > > /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> > >
> > > 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Call end reason for ip$localhost
> > >
> > > /7266 set to EndedByTransportFail
> > >
> > > 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending release complete PDU: ca
> > >
> > > llRef=7266
> > >
> > > 8:08.412 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: releaseComplete
> > >
> > > 8:08.413 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Write PDU failed (32): Broken pi
> > >
> > > pe
> > >
> > > 8:08.414 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> > >
> > > /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> > >
> > > 8:08.414 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> > >
> > > 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 clo
> > >
> > > sing: connectionState=AwaitingSignalConnect
> > >
> > > 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close
> > >
> > > 8:08.416 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTerminat
> > >
> > > ion for H225 Caller:82695d8
> > >
> > > 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 H323Transport::Close
> > >
> > > 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Signal channel closed.
> > >
> > > 8:08.433 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 ter
> > >
> > > minated.
> > >
> > > 8:09.544 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1
> > >
> > > 8:09.894 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> > >
> > > its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> > >
> > > 8:10.097 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> > >
> > > its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> > >
> > > 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeed
> > >
> > > ed for converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P
> > >
> > > 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim its. 160x120 --
> > > 352x288
> > >
> > > 8:10.239 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> > >
> > > 8:10.385 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> > >
> > > 8:10.594 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>
> > >
> > > 8:10.600 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>
> > >
> > > 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15 k{sw} <3>
> > >
> > > 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k {sw} <4>
> > >
> > > 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>
> > >
> > > 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>
> > >
> > > 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k {sw} <7>
> > >
> > > 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k {sw} <8>
> > >
> > > 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>
> > >
> > > 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> > >
> > > 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 del eted.
> > >
> > > 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> > >
> > > -------------------
> > >
> > > what the heck is the localhost doing in there?!? except upgrading all
> > > libraries and recompiling the kernel to suit my camera requirements I
> didn't
> > > change anything. :/
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
> > > To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:25 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem
> > >
> > >
> > > > Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 12:11, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > > (2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to
> buy
> > > > > another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Philips-chipset based cameras (Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000, Philips
> > > > ToUCAM Pro) are the best: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a few months if everything goes well, I'm not doing the port myself
> > > > as I don't like window$ ;)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >  _ Damien Sandras
> > > > (o- GnomeMeeting: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
> > > > //\ FOSDEM 2003:  http://www.fosdem.org
> > > > v_/_
> > > > H.323 phone:  callto://ils.seconix.com/dsandras@seconix.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
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> > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> >
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Thanks for your help,
for the moment the given answers creating more questions for me in the moment.
So please appoligize that I ask again.

The idear to check that the devices are not used is done lsof and fuser are 
reporting nothing on the devices for /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer.
Are these the right devices?
I also switched off the arts system from KDe and aktivated the system bell.

Is there a tool to check the audio Input?

Is it possible that the in the webcam included microphone producing the 
trouble?


Thanks again for your help


Am Freitag, 27. Dezember 2002 13:01 schrieben Sie:
> Le ven 27/12/2002 à 10:53, Joerg Demtroeder a écrit :
> > When I start gnomemeeting the video connetction is working but I get no
> > audio transmitted.
> >
> > And I still get the error message/warning that the system is not able to
> > open the audio channel.
>
> Read the faq, and make sure you defined the good devices as in/out
> devices...
>
> Snark on #gnomemeeting
>
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list

-- 
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Joerg Demtroeder
IT Projekt Manager
0172-2385928
joerg.demtroeder@keystone-st.de
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Le ven 27/12/2002 à 15:43, Joerg Demtroeder a écrit :
> Thanks for your help,
> for the moment the given answers creating more questions for me in the moment.
> So please appoligize that I ask again.
> 

This mailing list has been created to help users => no need to apology!
;)

> The idear to check that the devices are not used is done lsof and fuser are 
> reporting nothing on the devices for /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer.
> Are these the right devices?

/dev/dsp1 should be the device for the webcam internal microphone.
If it doesn't appear in the list, try to do a "modprobe audio" as root,
and restart GnomeMeeting.

> I also switched off the arts system from KDe and aktivated the system bell.
> 
> Is there a tool to check the audio Input?
> 

Not in GnomeMeeting 0.94.1 .
You can try cat /dev/dsp1 > /dev/dsp and talk in your cam microphone, if
you hear yourself, then the system is well-configured. If not, you have
a problem to identify and to solve.

> Is it possible that the in the webcam included microphone producing the 
> trouble?
> 

No, using it should solve all trouble.

> 
> Thanks again for your help
> 
> 
> Am Freitag, 27. Dezember 2002 13:01 schrieben Sie:
> > Le ven 27/12/2002 à 10:53, Joerg Demtroeder a écrit :
> > > When I start gnomemeeting the video connetction is working but I get no
> > > audio transmitted.
> > >
> > > And I still get the error message/warning that the system is not able to
> > > open the audio channel.
> >
> > Read the faq, and make sure you defined the good devices as in/out
> > devices...
> >
> > Snark on #gnomemeeting
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
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Hi,

	I am setting up video conferencing on my internal home network, and was 
wondering if anyone knew of MAC OS X based software that will 
interoperate with GnomeMeeting?  I have been looking for the last 
several days, and haven't run across anything yet.  Any help would be 
greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Andrig T. Miller


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In theory, you should be able to compile and make GnomeMeeting run on
Mac OS X. But you need things like XonX (I can be wrong, I never used
Mac OS X). If you are interested in trying, I will help you.

Le ven 27/12/2002 à 21:06, Andrig T. Miller a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> 	I am setting up video conferencing on my internal home network, and was 
> wondering if anyone knew of MAC OS X based software that will 
> interoperate with GnomeMeeting?  I have been looking for the last 
> several days, and haven't run across anything yet.  Any help would be 
> greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Andrig T. Miller
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
-- 
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Hi,
 you could try CPhone, which is on sourceforge.

It is based on the QT libraries (which work fine on mac) and 
pwlib/openh323.

Some effort may be required, I know nothing about macs, nor do I know what 
is only partially implemented on macs.

I suspect with the latest MAC OS X software it might just work.

Derek.

=======
On Fri, 27 Dec 2002, Andrig T. Miller wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> 	I am setting up video conferencing on my internal home network, and was 
> wondering if anyone knew of MAC OS X based software that will 
> interoperate with GnomeMeeting?  I have been looking for the last 
> several days, and haven't run across anything yet.  Any help would be 
> greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Andrig T. Miller
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
> 
> 

-- 
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There was one other reply referencing a project called CPhone.  That 
project is in its very early stages, so I think that I will explore 
trying to get GnomeMeeting running on MAC OS X.  I know of people who 
have built XFree86 and Gnome on MAC OS X, so this should be possible.  I 
will start checking into this, as I may need to do this for OpenOffice 
as well (currently it only has an X11 interface for the MAC).  If I run 
into problems, or need your help, I will let you know.

Thanks.

Andrig T. Miller

> In theory, you should be able to compile and make GnomeMeeting run on Mac OS X. But you need things like XonX (I can be wrong, I never used Mac OS X). If you are interested in trying, I will help you. Le ven 27/12/2002 à 21:06, Andrig T. Miller a écrit :
> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> 	I am setting up video conferencing on my internal home network, and was 
>>> wondering if anyone knew of MAC OS X based software that will 
>>> interoperate with GnomeMeeting?  I have been looking for the last 
>>> several days, and haven't run across anything yet.  Any help would be 
>>> greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Andrig T. Miller
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
>>> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
>>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
> -- Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> 



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Le sam 28/12/2002 à 19:27, Andrig T. Miller a écrit :
> There was one other reply referencing a project called CPhone.  That 
> project is in its very early stages, so I think that I will explore 
> trying to get GnomeMeeting running on MAC OS X.  I know of people who 
> have built XFree86 and Gnome on MAC OS X, so this should be possible.  I 
> will start checking into this, as I may need to do this for OpenOffice 
> as well (currently it only has an X11 interface for the MAC).  If I run 
> into problems, or need your help, I will let you know.
> 

I'm really ready to help if you have problems. Perhaps it is better to
contact me privately in that case and I will help you through the
process of building things if I'm able to do it.

Thanks!
-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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Hi, where is my helping hand ...?

I just installed gnomemeeting on a rh8.0-box (2.4.18-19.8.0) by a rpm-fil=
e
and started it in root-mode. everything works fine, but when i try to
start it as a "normal" user , the following errormessage occurs:

GnomeMeeting wurde 0 als GConf-Schl=FCssel
=BB/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test_age=AB
zur=FCckgeliefert, es wurde jedoch 12 erwartet.

=2E.. puh, okay, i will try ...

Gnomemeeting got a 0 as the value of the GConf-Key
=BB/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test_age=AB but expected a 12 ...



In the FAQ, the projectteam says:

7.11. I have GConf errors when I start GnomeMeeting, what can I do?
The first thing to do is to try to change the permissions with:=20
$ chmod -R 4755 /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/
$ killall -9 gconfd-2
 If it doesn't work, either GConf is not properly setup on your system,=20
either you don't have compiled GnomeMeeting with the right GConf flags.
Not all distributions install GConf settings in /etc/gconf, but=20
gconftool-2 --get-default-source should always give you the place where=20
default GConf settings are installed.=20

When starting, GnomeMeeting will test the value for a given key, and=20
compares it to what it expected to receive. If what he receives doesn't
match whith what he expected, then there is a problem. That key is=20
"/apps/gnomemeeting/general/gconf_test_age", and gconftool-2 --get=20
"/apps/gnomemeeting/general/gconf_test_age" should always return a
value different of 0.



But, unfortunatly, that does not help me at all ..


Any ideas ???

Thankx a lot, Andi

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Le dim 29/12/2002 à 01:33, Andreas Mueller a écrit :
> Hi, where is my helping hand ...?
> 
> I just installed gnomemeeting on a rh8.0-box (2.4.18-19.8.0) by a rpm-file
> and started it in root-mode. everything works fine, but when i try to
> start it as a "normal" user , the following errormessage occurs:
> 

That is typically a permissions problems.
Try to see if /etc/gconf and its subdirectories and files are readable
with ls -l by your user. If not, change the permissions.

> GnomeMeeting wurde 0 als GConf-Schlüssel
> »/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test_age«
> zurückgeliefert, es wurde jedoch 12 erwartet.
> 
> ... puh, okay, i will try ...
> 
> Gnomemeeting got a 0 as the value of the GConf-Key
> »/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test_age« but expected a 12 ...
> 
> 
> 
> In the FAQ, the projectteam says:
> 
> 7.11. I have GConf errors when I start GnomeMeeting, what can I do?
> The first thing to do is to try to change the permissions with: 
> $ chmod -R 4755 /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/
> $ killall -9 gconfd-2
>  If it doesn't work, either GConf is not properly setup on your system, 
> either you don't have compiled GnomeMeeting with the right GConf flags.
> Not all distributions install GConf settings in /etc/gconf, but 
> gconftool-2 --get-default-source should always give you the place where 
> default GConf settings are installed. 
> 
> When starting, GnomeMeeting will test the value for a given key, and 
> compares it to what it expected to receive. If what he receives doesn't
> match whith what he expected, then there is a problem. That key is 
> "/apps/gnomemeeting/general/gconf_test_age", and gconftool-2 --get 
> "/apps/gnomemeeting/general/gconf_test_age" should always return a
> value different of 0.
> 
> 
> 
> But, unfortunatly, that does not help me at all ..
> 
> 
> Any ideas ???
> 
> Thankx a lot, Andi
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
-- 
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Hi all this is my first post on this ML and for first i'd like to say
Marry Christmas and Happy new year to all.

and now the problem ...
I've just switched to debian but also with redhat 8.0 I've experienced
the same problem when I start to use GM 0.94.1, After I start a calling
a netmeeting client (but i really don't if the problem appears also in
the call to gm client) after some minute the viedo module crash and GM
windows is inaccessible ... but the audio continue to work so I can talk
also for lot of time. I don't now if the problem is due to my webcam but
as i just say i get this problem only when i switch to gm 0.94.1 

have anyone experienced the same problem  and have a solution ?

any Idea ?

bye
Alkex


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Dears, 

I have problem during the ./configure. 

[root@localhost gnomemeeting-0.95.0]# ./configure
checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for working aclocal... found
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... found
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking for intltool >= 0.20... 0.22 found
checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl
checking for gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables...
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed
checking for ld used by GCC... /usr/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes
checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r
checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking how to recognise dependant libraries... pass_all
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for egrep... grep -E
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for sys/types.h... yes
checking for sys/stat.h... yes
checking for stdlib.h... yes
checking for string.h... yes
checking for memory.h... yes
checking for strings.h... yes
checking for inttypes.h... yes
checking for stdint.h... yes
checking for unistd.h... yes
checking dlfcn.h usability... yes
checking dlfcn.h presence... yes
checking for dlfcn.h... yes
checking for g++... g++
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes
checking whether g++ accepts -g... yes
checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... g++ -E
checking the maximum length of command line arguments... 49153
checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from gcc object... ok
checking for objdir... .libs
checking for ranlib... ranlib
checking for strip... strip
checking if gcc static flag  works... yes
checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... yes
checking for gcc option to produce PIC... -fPIC
checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes
checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes
checking whether the gcc linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... 
yes
checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes
checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so
checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build static libraries... yes
configure: creating libtool
appending configuration tag "CXX" to libtool
checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... 
yes
 -fPIC
checking if g++ PIC flag -fPIC works... yes
checking if g++ supports -c -o file.o... yes
checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... 
yes
checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... yes
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes
checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so
appending configuration tag "GCJ" to libtool
checking if gcj supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... (cached) yes
checking for gcj option to produce PIC... -fPIC
checking if gcj PIC flag -fPIC works... no
checking if gcj supports -c -o file.o... no
checking whether the gcj linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... 
yes
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checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes
checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so
checking for gcc... (cached) gcc
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... (cached) yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... (cached) none needed
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... (cached) yes
checking whether g++ accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking for strerror in -lcposix... no
checking for ANSI C header files... (cached) yes
checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
checking for libgnomeui-2.0 >= 1.112.0 linc >= 0.5.0 libbonobo-2.0 >= 2.0.0 
esound >= 0.2.28... yes
checking GNOMEMEETING_CFLAGS...     -I/usr/include/libgnomeui-2.0 
 -I/usr/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 
 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/include/gconf/2 
 -I/usr/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 
 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/orbit-2.0 
 -I/usr/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 
 -I/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/include/linc-1.0 
 -I/usr/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/include/libxml2 
 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include 
 -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/Xft2 -I/usr/X11R6/include
checking GNOMEMEETING_LIBS...     -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgnomeui-2 -lSM -lICE 
 -lbonoboui-2 -lgnomecanvas-2 -lgnome-2 -lart_lgpl_2 -lpangoft2-1.0 
 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangoxft-1.0 
 -lpangox-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lgconf-2 -lgnomevfs-2 -lbonobo-2 
 -lbonobo-activation -lORBit-2 -lxml2 -lz -llinc -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl 
 -lgobject-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lpthread -lglib-2.0 -lesd -laudiofile -lm
Using config source xml::/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults for schema 
installation
Using $(sysconfdir)/gconf/schemas/ as install directory for schema files
checking for long... yes
checking size of long... 4
checking whether byte ordering is bigendian... no
checking whether OS type is supported... yes
checking for PTLib includes...
checking for /usr/lib/libpt.so... no
configure: error: You need PTLib to enjoy GnomeMeeting 


Could anyone help me, please? 


Best regards, 

Denis.

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Hi all this is my first post on this ML and for first i'd like to say
Marry Christmas and Happy new year to all.

and now the problem ...
I've just switched to debian but also with redhat 8.0 I've experienced
the same problem when I start to use GM 0.94.1, After I start a calling
a netmeeting client (but i really don't if the problem appears also in
the call to gm client) after some minute the viedo module crash and GM
windows is inaccessible ... but the audio continue to work so I can talk
also for lot of time. I don't now if the problem is due to my webcam but
as i just say i get this problem only when i switch to gm 0.94.1 

have anyone experienced the same problem  and have a solution ?

any Idea ?

bye
Alkex


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Hi, this was a known bug of GnomeMeeting 0.94.1. Actually, the problem
was that I was freeing some GtkWidget in the stats display part I
shouldn't have freed.

I would suggest you to use the CVS version if your problem appears too
often. It only appeared on some systems.

Debs of the CVS version are available here:
deb ftp://www.gnomemeeting.org/gnomemeeting-cvs/ ./
apt-get update; apt-get install gnomemeeting-cvs

We can provide RH8 Rpms on request.

Le dim 29/12/2002 à 10:35, Alkex a écrit :
> Hi all this is my first post on this ML and for first i'd like to say
> Marry Christmas and Happy new year to all.
> 
> and now the problem ...
> I've just switched to debian but also with redhat 8.0 I've experienced
> the same problem when I start to use GM 0.94.1, After I start a calling
> a netmeeting client (but i really don't if the problem appears also in
> the call to gm client) after some minute the viedo module crash and GM
> windows is inaccessible ... but the audio continue to work so I can talk
> also for lot of time. I don't now if the problem is due to my webcam but
> as i just say i get this problem only when i switch to gm 0.94.1 
> 
> have anyone experienced the same problem  and have a solution ?
> 
> any Idea ?
> 
> bye
> Alkex
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
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Le ven 27/12/2002 à 01:29, Everson Denis a écrit :
> checking for PTLib includes...
> checking for /usr/lib/libpt.so... no
> configure: error: You need PTLib to enjoy GnomeMeeting 
> 
> 
> Could anyone help me, please? 

Simple, you need to install PWLib.
Please check the FAQ, there is a detailed installation procedure.

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On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 10:36, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Hi, this was a known bug of GnomeMeeting 0.94.1. Actually, the problem
> was that I was freeing some GtkWidget in the stats display part I
> shouldn't have freed.
> 
> I would suggest you to use the CVS version if your problem appears too
> often. It only appeared on some systems.
> 
> Debs of the CVS version are available here:
> deb ftp://www.gnomemeeting.org/gnomemeeting-cvs/ ./
> apt-get update; apt-get install gnomemeeting-cvs
> 
I've just try but i get a time out from gnomemeeting.org

> We can provide RH8 Rpms on request.





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% *** Alkex <alkex@inwind.it> wrote: ***
% On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 10:36, Damien Sandras wrote:
% > 
% > Debs of the CVS version are available here:
% > deb ftp://www.gnomemeeting.org/gnomemeeting-cvs/ ./
% > apt-get update; apt-get install gnomemeeting-cvs
% > 
% I've just try but i get a time out from gnomemeeting.org
% 

I confirm the site is up !

---------------------------------
user:$ date
Sun Dec 29 12:17:13 CET 2002

user:$ apt-cache policy gnomemeeting-cvs

gnomemeeting-cvs:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 20021229.CVS-1
  Version Table:
     20021229.CVS-1 0
        500 ftp://www.gnomemeeting.org ./ Packages
     20021208.CVS-1 0
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
---------------------------------

Try with your browser (i.e. links) to see if you can still access it.


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On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 11:46, Alkex wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 10:36, Damien Sandras wrote:
> > Hi, this was a known bug of GnomeMeeting 0.94.1. Actually, the problem
> > was that I was freeing some GtkWidget in the stats display part I
> > shouldn't have freed.
> > 
> > I would suggest you to use the CVS version if your problem appears too
> > often. It only appeared on some systems.
> > 
> > Debs of the CVS version are available here:
> > deb ftp://www.gnomemeeting.org/gnomemeeting-cvs/ ./
> > apt-get update; apt-get install gnomemeeting-cvs
> > 
> I've just try but i get a time out from gnomemeeting.org
> 
> > We can provide RH8 Rpms on request.

ok solved, now seems that all it's ok 

thanks  

bye
Alkex


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Just curious. Is it only possible to use ALSA with gnomemeeting through OSS 
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Le dim 29/12/2002 à 16:31, Georgi Georgiev a écrit :
> Just curious. Is it only possible to use ALSA with gnomemeeting through OSS 
> emulation?
> 
Till now yes.
If you want to contribute a PWLib patch, it is welcome :)

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Hi!
I installed the packages of 
http://www.gnomemeeting.org/admin/downloads/latest/suse/misc/
on a SUSE 8.1 (!!) and after a lot of tweaking it worked.
changed firewall settings , stopped artsd, adjusted audio devices 

but it frequently crashes
(gnomemeeting.bin:25024): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289 
(g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(gnomemeeting.bin:25024): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1307 
(g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

and another similar with *color*.c (can't remember)

cu
ferdinand
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PS I am not on the list.

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Hi!

That bug has been fixed in CVS one week after the release, there is
nothing to do except waiting for next release happening soon.


Le dim 29/12/2002 à 17:11, Ferdinand Gassauer a écrit :
> Hi!
> I installed the packages of 
> http://www.gnomemeeting.org/admin/downloads/latest/suse/misc/
> on a SUSE 8.1 (!!) and after a lot of tweaking it worked.
> changed firewall settings , stopped artsd, adjusted audio devices 
> 
> but it frequently crashes
> (gnomemeeting.bin:25024): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289 
> (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> 
> (gnomemeeting.bin:25024): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1307 
> (g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> 
> and another similar with *color*.c (can't remember)
> 
> cu
> ferdinand
> http://www.goesing.at
> 
> PS I am not on the list.
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Hi,

I read the FAQ, and didn't see an answer to this, so here goes.

If one party in a gnomemeeting is using a quicknet card for G.723.1 or G.729
compression, must the recipient also be using a quicknet card for decompression
? (or can gnomemeeting handle the decompression, just not the compression ?)

thx, and rgds,

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Le lun 30/12/2002 à 10:37, Gregory Hosler a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I read the FAQ, and didn't see an answer to this, so here goes.
> 
> If one party in a gnomemeeting is using a quicknet card for G.723.1 or G.729
> compression, must the recipient also be using a quicknet card for decompression
> ? (or can gnomemeeting handle the decompression, just not the compression ?)
> 

The remote party has to be using a Quicknet card too if you want to use
one of those patented codecs. If the remote party is using Netmeeting,
then the G.723.1 codec is available.

Notice that Quicknet cards have other advantages than the support for
G.723.1 and that they can also use the software codecs like Speex or GSM
provided with GnomeMeeting.

> thx, and rgds,
> 
> -Greg

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I am using the  Gnomemeeting 0.12.2  that came with my Suse 8.0  Here are=
 a=20
few problems that I am having with it while commnucating with others who =
are=20
using Netmeeting and GnomeMeeting:

(1)  While the recipients of my audio often report that the sound I am se=
nding=20
is excellent,  they just as frequently report that it is so tinny (not ti=
ny)=20
as to be unintelligible.  Moreover while the sound transmission can begin=
=20
with excellent quality, it can flip to the tinny sound after a few minute=
s.=20
It never flips from tinny to good. The  quality of the sound that I recei=
ve=20
is always good.=20

(2) The headphone and microphone sound controls on my GnomeMeeting do not=
 work=20
(have no effect whatsoever.)

(3)  The sound volume controls on  my mixers have no effect with gnomemee=
ting=20
although they do work  with all other programs except ohphone. Howvever t=
he=20
mixers do successfully turn my audio transmit on and off.

Problems (1)-(3) also apply to ohphone.


A more minor problem is this:

(4) The  ringing alert for incoming calls does not work while I am runnin=
g=20
GnomeMeeting in KDE but it does while I am runing it in Gnome.

Any help that you might have for me wouldbe greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

Andrew Carson.

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Am Mon, 2002-12-30 um 16.46 schrieb Andrew Carson:
> I am using the  Gnomemeeting 0.12.2  that came with my Suse 8.0  Here are a 
> few problems that I am having with it while commnucating with others who are 
> using Netmeeting and GnomeMeeting:

0.12.2 is a very old release. The latest stable release of GnomeMeeting
is 0.94.1, thus I would suggest you to upgrade your GnomeMeeting.
> 
> (1)  While the recipients of my audio often report that the sound I am sending 
> is excellent,  they just as frequently report that it is so tinny (not tiny) 
> as to be unintelligible.  Moreover while the sound transmission can begin 
> with excellent quality, it can flip to the tinny sound after a few minutes. 
> It never flips from tinny to good. The  quality of the sound that I receive 
> is always good. 

This can have several reasons, bandwidth problems for instance. Which
codec do you use?

> 
> (2) The headphone and microphone sound controls on my GnomeMeeting do not work 
> (have no effect whatsoever.)
> 
> (3)  The sound volume controls on  my mixers have no effect with gnomemeeting 
> although they do work  with all other programs except ohphone. Howvever the 
> mixers do successfully turn my audio transmit on and off.
> 
> Problems (1)-(3) also apply to ohphone.
> 
> 
> A more minor problem is this:
> 
> (4) The  ringing alert for incoming calls does not work while I am running 
> GnomeMeeting in KDE but it does while I am runing it in Gnome.
> 
> Any help that you might have for me wouldbe greatly appreciated.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Andrew Carson.
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Hi!
To avoid to kill artsd - which is frequently suggested - start

artsdsp gnomemeeting 
eventually editing the gnomemeeting.desktop file

see artsdsp.c
/* Evil evil evil hack to get OSS apps to cooperate with artsd
 * This is based on the original esddsp, which esd uses to do the same.
 *
 * Copyright (C) 1998 Manish Singh <yosh@gimp.org>
 * Copyright (C) 2000 Stefan Westerfeld <stefan@space.twc.de> (aRts port)
.....
hope that helps

-- 
cu
ferdinand
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Hi,

Since I managed to trash my Mandrake 9.0 while trying to upgrade some =
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gnomemeeting comes pre-installed on Red Hat seince Red Hat 7.3

RH 7.3 has GM 0.85.1 pre-configured.

rgds,

-Greg

On 31-Dec-2002 Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Since I managed to trash my Mandrake 9.0 while trying to upgrade some
> packages :) , I was thinking to play / learn some more about other UNIX /
> Linux systems, so it crossed my mind to try maybe something from the BSD
> family or maybe Solaris 9 for x86. Anyone managed to install gnomemeeting on
> such thing? I mean painless of course. ;)
> 
> Best regards and a happy new year!!!
> Adrian Golumbovici

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Debian is hard to install, but easy to maintain.
You can run apt-get install gnomemeeting even with a 3 years old system
and it will be installed without pain.

FreeBSD is harder and Solaris is not Free.

Le mar 31/12/2002 à 13:01, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> Hi,
>  
> Since I managed to trash my Mandrake 9.0 while trying to upgrade some
> packages :) , I was thinking to play / learn some more about other
> UNIX / Linux systems, so it crossed my mind to try maybe something
> from the BSD family or maybe Solaris 9 for x86. Anyone managed to
> install gnomemeeting on such thing? I mean painless of course. ;)
>  
> Best regards and a happy new year!!!
> Adrian Golumbovici
-- 
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Thx Damien. OK. I will try to go with debian first then. I can't imagine the
installing is harder than what linux was like about 2-3 years ago so I think
I will manage it.
I'll let you know on the results.

Best regards,
Adrian Golumbovici
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> Debian is hard to install, but easy to maintain.
> You can run apt-get install gnomemeeting even with a 3 years old system
> and it will be installed without pain.
>
> FreeBSD is harder and Solaris is not Free.
>
> Le mar 31/12/2002 à 13:01, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > Since I managed to trash my Mandrake 9.0 while trying to upgrade some
> > packages :) , I was thinking to play / learn some more about other
> > UNIX / Linux systems, so it crossed my mind to try maybe something
> > from the BSD family or maybe Solaris 9 for x86. Anyone managed to
> > install gnomemeeting on such thing? I mean painless of course. ;)
> >
> > Best regards and a happy new year!!!
> > Adrian Golumbovici
> --
> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
>
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That could help to have a native port of GnomeMeeting on OS X when
compiling gnomemeeting with --disable-gnome :

http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/02/12/31/149202.shtml?tid=179

Anybody interested?
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Both my wife and I have Gnomemeeting 0.94.1 installed on our computers both of which run Suse 8.1.
Neither of us is able to  transmit sound although both of us are able to receive both sound and video. 
We have tested the abilty to receive sound by receiving sound sent by netmeeting to gnomemeeting.

Has anyone heard of a similar problem? Does anyone have any suggestions?

Andrew Carson.

PS Originally We were running Suse 8.0 with Gnomemeeting 0.12 that came with it. These could both send and receive sound and video,
but after a while the sound became  so tinny that it was hard to understand. When I posted this to this group, I received the following advice:

>0.12.2 is a very old release. The latest stable release of GnomeMeeting
>is 0.94.1, thus I would suggest you to upgrade your GnomeMeeting.

I  was unable to do this under Suse 8.0 as even the version of pwlib given on the gnomemeeting.org download site with the Suse RPM's for gnomemeeting 0.94.1
would not install in Suse 8.0. I thus installed Suse 8.1. The pwlib, h323 and gnomemeeting 0.94.1 all then installed. At this point I was unable to transmit sound, as described 
above.





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PS We can both transmit sound from our computers when running netmeeting.




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I use GnomeMeeting on FreeBSD. It installs easily from the FreeBSD
Ports, but has support for only a couple of video sources. This makes
it more difficult to use. Incoming video and sound are fine.

I really prefer FreeBSD to Linux for its consistency. It is a complete
OS, unlike the various Linux distros where you have a Linux kernel
surrounded by a variety of software that is put together by each
distributor. FreeBSD is FreeBSD while RedHat and not Debian is not
Mandrake is not Suse, ...

But for GnomeMeeting, Linux is probably still your best bet for video
transmission.

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
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I'm not sure I understand your mail. You tell us :
- A and B communicate
- A and B can receive sound and video
- A and B cannot transmit sound and video

How can you be sure you are able to receive if the remote user is unable
to transmit?

If I had to guess your problem, I would say that you don't have problems
to transmit but that the problem is on reception. 

You don't give enough information yet to debug the problem but:
- Are you behind a NAT gateway or router or is it a direct connection to
the Net ?
- Are you firewalled or not ?

Le mar 31/12/2002 à 18:41, Andrew and Catherine a écrit :
> Both my wife and I have Gnomemeeting 0.94.1 installed on our computers both of which run Suse 8.1.
> Neither of us is able to  transmit sound although both of us are able to receive both sound and video. 
> We have tested the abilty to receive sound by receiving sound sent by netmeeting to gnomemeeting.
> 
> Has anyone heard of a similar problem? Does anyone have any suggestions?
> 
> Andrew Carson.
> 
> PS Originally We were running Suse 8.0 with Gnomemeeting 0.12 that came with it. These could both send and receive sound and video,
> but after a while the sound became  so tinny that it was hard to understand. When I posted this to this group, I received the following advice:
> 
> >0.12.2 is a very old release. The latest stable release of GnomeMeeting
> >is 0.94.1, thus I would suggest you to upgrade your GnomeMeeting.
> 
> I  was unable to do this under Suse 8.0 as even the version of pwlib given on the gnomemeeting.org download site with the Suse RPM's for gnomemeeting 0.94.1
> would not install in Suse 8.0. I thus installed Suse 8.1. The pwlib, h323 and gnomemeeting 0.94.1 all then installed. At this point I was unable to transmit sound, as described 
> above.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Am Die, 2002-12-31 um 18.57 schrieb Kevin Oberman:
> I use GnomeMeeting on FreeBSD. It installs easily from the FreeBSD
> Ports, but has support for only a couple of video sources. This makes
> it more difficult to use. Incoming video and sound are fine.

But it is an old release, isn't it? I think the FreeBSD Ports include
GnomeMeeting 0.85 due to the required libraries (but I am not sure
because I do not use FreeBSD).

> 
> I really prefer FreeBSD to Linux for its consistency. It is a complete
> OS, unlike the various Linux distros where you have a Linux kernel
> surrounded by a variety of software that is put together by each
> distributor. FreeBSD is FreeBSD while RedHat and not Debian is not
> Mandrake is not Suse, ...

That is correct, BSDs are not just a kernel (like linux, for instance).
This solution has advantages and also disadvantages. It is a sensitive
topic which could start a flamewar, thus I think we should not start to
discuss about "linux vs. BSD" ;)
I really agree to you. I also prefer BSD, though I do not like FreeBSD -
I am using NetBSD (hey, we could start a flamewar too ;).

> 
> But for GnomeMeeting, Linux is probably still your best bet for video
> transmission.

Especially on NetBSD because there are still some problems with some
software. Nevertheless it is also possible to use GnomeMeeting.

> 
> R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
> Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
> Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
> E-mail: oberman@es.net			Phone: +1 510 486-8634
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Gnomemeeting has been included in the internet phone database
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Gnomemeeting supports other languages except English, who knows 
what other languages are? or you re-submit it.

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On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 19:40:08 -0800 (PST)
A B <thefirstwebchef@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Gnomemeeting has been included in the internet phone database
> at http://www.iphone.milescape.com/, its detail shows that the
> Gnomemeeting supports other languages except English, who knows 
> what other languages are? or you re-submit it.

Here is the answer ;)

[aflinta@warp aflinta]$ rpm -ql gnomemeeting |grep .mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/cs/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/da/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/el/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/gl/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/hu/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/no/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/pt/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
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/usr/X11R6/share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo


					Artur
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On Saturday 30 November 2002 04:41, william bastian wrote:
> that answered my question.  the ymessenger available from yahoo for
> linux does not support video conferencing and they say they have no
> immediate plans to make it happen.  just goes to show that  it will tak=
e
> some more market penetration by linux before they  sit up and take
> notice.
>     maybe netmeeting is what i am puzzling over, comes along with
> msnmessenger, have not used a web camera on that very often, it is not
> very good quality compared with ymessenger video, which is good
> i do know you have to open TCP 5100 on the firewall in the router for
> the new super-web camera feature  that they have in the current
> ymessenger 5.5 that people with high speed access can use,  dsl or cabl=
e
> modem.  i am using a dsl modem and a linksys router to hook both my
> windows 2k and the linux  mandrake 9.0 computers up to the dsl modem.
> both computers have 256meg of ram and are running at 1 gig for
> processors, amd brand processors.  using ethernet 10-100 cards  to the
> router and ethernet into the dsl modem.
> i am using mandrake linux 9.0, the 8.2 mandrake linux had a copy of
> gnome-meeting with it, but it never worked.  this 9.0 does see a
> logitech netcam express, a picture comes up on the screen.  just do nee=
d
> to know what to put in the address to make things happen, to get onto
> something like netmeeting.  again, i  understand that gnome-meeting is
> evolving and has not even reached 1.0 yet,  so writing a extensive
> instruction book for it might  be a bit of a waste of time since it wil=
l
> be changing.
>     so what do i put in that address window when it shows up?? the
> msnmessenger ID of the person i would like to netmeet with?  is there a
> special syntax or order?  remember, like a lot of windows user i am
> pretty much a point and click specialist(build my own computers and and
> get them running, including windows, and attempting to learn the linux
> mandrake operating system, which IS considerably different) so slowly
> attempting to learn the linux operating system a little at a time.
>   thanks for answering that question!  dissipates some fog!! i will als=
o
> work on cutting down the length of my responses.thanks for your
> patience. bill
>
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>
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Hello

Try this link:http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/mdoc/user/video-apps.html
Good luck

Pablo



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capture images from video?

thanks

vete


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Le dim 01/12/2002 à 20:00, francesco.melo a écrit :
> capture images from video?
> 
> thanks


File menu -> Save ... It will be saved in your home directory.
Only pics, no mpeg video yet.


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Slackware packages of GM 0.94.1 are now available thanks to Vincent
Deroo. I would like to thank Alain Buret who also made packages.

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Hi,

I coded a lot this WE to improve the Quicknet support in GnomeMeeting.
It is now nearly complete, I just plan to improve the code tonight.

Please, if you own a Quicknet card, and want to test, contact me
privately. Thanks!


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Hi,

It "seems"  working well with gnomemeeting with seconix.com :
I can see all the people connecting ...
I try to connect on some of them ,
but it tries to connect , I wait,wait,  nothing happens
OR,
after a short time : "connection terminated"
sometimes I have the connection :
a web-cam image appears :
I send a message and I never receive a answer !=20
quid ?
does it come from "gnomemeeting" or "seconix" ?
thanks
Antoine

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It probalby comes from bad configuration on your side.

Are you NATted?

Le lun 02/12/2002 à 21:03, antoine a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> It "seems"  working well with gnomemeeting with seconix.com :
> I can see all the people connecting ...
> I try to connect on some of them ,
> but it tries to connect , I wait,wait,  nothing happens
> OR,
> after a short time : "connection terminated"
> sometimes I have the connection :
> a web-cam image appears :
> I send a message and I never receive a answer ! 
> quid ?
> does it come from "gnomemeeting" or "seconix" ?
> thanks
> Antoine
> _______________________________________________
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Le Mardi 3 D=E9cembre 2002 09:44, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
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> Are you NATted?
-----------
what do you mean about : "NATted" ?
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Am Dienstag, 3. Dezember 2002 12:25 schrieb antoine:
> Le Mardi 3 D=E9cembre 2002 09:44, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> > It probalby comes from bad configuration on your side.
> > Are you NATted?
>
> -----------
> what do you mean about : "NATted" ?
> antoine

NATed =3D behind a firewall inside a private network.=20
NAT =3D Network Adress Translation, it maps private IP's (like 10.0.x.x or=
=20
192.168.x.x) to official adresses. Normally you use it if you only have one=
=20
official IP, but many local clients ...

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Le Mardi 3 D=E9cembre 2002 09:44, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> It probalby comes from bad configuration on your side.
> Are you NATted?
-------------------------------------
Hi,

A friend-user makes this command on MY IP on seconix :

nmap -O 62.147.123.60
Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, =
try=20
-P0
Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (0 hosts up) scanned in 30 seconds
------------------------
the user on his PC :
nmap -O 212.194.78.197
Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
Interesting ports on lns04a-7-197.w.club-internet.fr (212.194.78.197):
(The 1594 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
Port       State       Service
80/tcp     open        http                   =20
443/tcp    open        https                  =20
515/tcp    open        printer                =20
631/tcp    open        ipp                    =20
1720/tcp   open        H.323/Q.931            =20
6000/tcp   open        X11                    =20
7000/tcp   open        afs3-fileserver        =20
Remote operating system guess: Linux Kernel 2.4.0 - 2.5.20
Uptime 0.134 days (since Mon Dec  2 19:35:35 2002)

Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 7 second
---------------------
So, it works on the user but not with my IP ...
problem of firewall ?
thanks
antoine

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Le mar 03/12/2002 à 12:36, antoine a écrit :

> So, it works on the user but not with my IP ...

I don't understand this.

> problem of firewall ?

If you have a firewall, yes it can be a problem. I would suggest you to
read the FAQ, that should help you to debug your problem...

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Hi,
me again :

=46rom my PC connected to seconix , I type :

 nmap -O 62.147.137.217

Starting nmap V. 2.54BETA31 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
Interesting ports on nas-cbv-3-62-147-137-217.dial.proxad.net=20
(62.147.137.217):
(The 1551 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
Port       State       Service
515/tcp    open        printer
6000/tcp   open        X11
-----------
I have not the :=20
1720/tcp   open        H.323/Q.931            =20

quid ?

thanks

antoine Wach=E9


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Try nmap -p 1720 62.147.137.217
but that wouldn't help anyway.
Please read the FAQ to debug your problem. You don't give enough info
about the problem for us to be able to debug it. You might also have
contacted people with a wrong setup on ILS. Many users on ILS register
without having tested anything.

Le mar 03/12/2002 à 12:57, antoine a écrit :
> Hi,
> me again :
> 
> From my PC connected to seconix , I type :
> 
>  nmap -O 62.147.137.217
> 
> Starting nmap V. 2.54BETA31 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
> Interesting ports on nas-cbv-3-62-147-137-217.dial.proxad.net 
> (62.147.137.217):
> (The 1551 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
> Port       State       Service
> 515/tcp    open        printer
> 6000/tcp   open        X11
> -----------
> I have not the : 
> 1720/tcp   open        H.323/Q.931             
> 
> quid ?
> 
> thanks
> 
> antoine Waché
> 
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Le Mardi 3 D=E9cembre 2002 11:04, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> Try nmap -p 1720 62.147.137.217
> but that wouldn't help anyway.
> Please read the FAQ to debug your problem. You don't give enough info
> about the problem for us to be able to debug it. You might also have
> contacted people with a wrong setup on ILS. Many users on ILS register
> without having tested anything.
> > -----------
> > I have not the :
> > 1720/tcp   open        H.323/Q.931
------------------------------
difficult to say more precisions ...
-------
I read the FAQ : no subject about : "no message received ..."
it's why I contact this list :-)
-----
I try to connect on your name (Damien Sandras) on seconix but no answer.
I can connect to many people , they receive my messages but I don't recei=
ve=20
their message.
-----
Do I have to configure /etc/ldap.conf ?

bye

antoine



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I'm in do not disturb mode =>
13:09:36 Appel de antoine Henri  qui utilise gnomemeeting	0.85.1	9/61
13:09:36 Refusé automatiquement

Your GnomeMeeting is 0.85.1, and yes there can be problems with messages
transmission between 0.9x and 0.85.1 because we are doing this in UTF-8
in GM 0.9x. You should upgrade to a newer version.

If you want to make sure your GnomeMeeting is well configured, please go
on the IRC channel and ask to somebody to test with you.

Le mar 03/12/2002 à 15:25, antoine a écrit :
> Le Mardi 3 Décembre 2002 11:04, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> > Try nmap -p 1720 62.147.137.217
> > but that wouldn't help anyway.
> > Please read the FAQ to debug your problem. You don't give enough info
> > about the problem for us to be able to debug it. You might also have
> > contacted people with a wrong setup on ILS. Many users on ILS register
> > without having tested anything.
> > > -----------
> > > I have not the :
> > > 1720/tcp   open        H.323/Q.931
> ------------------------------
> difficult to say more precisions ...
> -------
> I read the FAQ : no subject about : "no message received ..."
> it's why I contact this list :-)
> -----
> I try to connect on your name (Damien Sandras) on seconix but no answer.
> I can connect to many people , they receive my messages but I don't receive 
> their message.
> -----
> Do I have to configure /etc/ldap.conf ?
> 
> bye
> 
> antoine
> 
> 
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Le Mardi 3 D=E9cembre 2002 13:28, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> I'm in do not disturb mode =3D>
> 13:09:36 Appel de antoine Henri  qui utilise gnomemeeting=090.85.1=099/=
61
> 13:09:36 Refus=E9 automatiquement
> Your GnomeMeeting is 0.85.1, and yes there can be problems with message=
s
> transmission between 0.9x and 0.85.1 because we are doing this in UTF-8
> in GM 0.9x. You should upgrade to a newer version.
ok, it's what I have to do ...=20
> If you want to make sure your GnomeMeeting is well configured, please g=
o
> on the IRC channel and ask to somebody to test with you.
Sorry but :-) : How to do go to a IRC channel and do a IRC chat ?
antoine

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On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 03:03:21PM +0000, antoine wrote:
> Sorry but :-) : How to do go to a IRC channel and do a IRC chat ?
> antoine

Shame on you Antoine ! Google "irc linux" and read your way through. Use
the chat client that goes with Mozilla if you like. I find it easy to use.

Have a good read. Tonight around 22:00 I'll probably have GM up and we can 
test your setup if you like.
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As promised, I reported this bug to the gk-developers list and within a
day or two they (actually Chih-Wei Huang) confirmed the issue and has
committed a fix to the 2_0 branch of cvs for those, like me, who can't
wait.  I tried it and it now works.  For those who can wait, it should
be fixed in v2.03 of gnugk.


On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 20:30, Marc Williams wrote:
> Sadly, the new 2.02 version of gnugk, while perhaps fixing Joachim's
> problem, does _not_ fix the issue I had previously reported.  I just got
> through building gnugk 2.02 and with one test, I can tell you that the
> problem still exists the same as it was for version 2.00.
> 
> Namely, 
> 1) GM can call GM and everything works.
> 2) NM can call NM and everything works.
> 2) GM can call NM and everything works.
> 3) NM can call GM and only audio works.  No video.
> 
> I'll be reporting this to the gk lists soon.
> 


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Thanks a lot!!!


Le mar 03/12/2002 à 16:53, Marc Williams a écrit :
> As promised, I reported this bug to the gk-developers list and within a
> day or two they (actually Chih-Wei Huang) confirmed the issue and has
> committed a fix to the 2_0 branch of cvs for those, like me, who can't
> wait.  I tried it and it now works.  For those who can wait, it should
> be fixed in v2.03 of gnugk.
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 20:30, Marc Williams wrote:
> > Sadly, the new 2.02 version of gnugk, while perhaps fixing Joachim's
> > problem, does _not_ fix the issue I had previously reported.  I just got
> > through building gnugk 2.02 and with one test, I can tell you that the
> > problem still exists the same as it was for version 2.00.
> > 
> > Namely, 
> > 1) GM can call GM and everything works.
> > 2) NM can call NM and everything works.
> > 2) GM can call NM and everything works.
> > 3) NM can call GM and only audio works.  No video.
> > 
> > I'll be reporting this to the gk lists soon.
> > 
> 
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Hi all;


Could all people owning a Quicknet card and subscribed to this mailing
list mail me ?

That would be very kind to test the latest changes so that the next
release can be very stable.

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% *** Willem Kuiters <wkuiters@free.fr> wrote: ***
% On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 03:03:21PM +0000, antoine wrote:
% > Sorry but :-) : How to do go to a IRC channel and do a IRC chat ?
% > antoine
% 
% Shame on you Antoine ! Google "irc linux" and read your way through. Use
% the chat client that goes with Mozilla if you like. I find it easy to use.
% 

If you don't know which IRC client is used for Linux, try 'irssi' and/or
irssi-gtk for graphical mode.

Truong

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Hi,
I try to update gnomemeeting
----------------------------
5.2.1. Compile PWlib
 You have to compile PWlib that way:
tar xvzf pwlib_x.x.x.tar.gz
$ export PWLIBDIR=3D<the directory where you extracted pwlib>
$ cd $PWLIBDIR
$ make opt
$ cp -d $PWLIBDIR/lib/*so* /usr/lib
$ ln -s /usr/lib/libpt_linux_x86_r.so.x.x.x /usr/lib/libpt.so
----------------
5.2.2. Compile OpenH323
 You have to compile OpenH323 that way:=20
$ tar xvzf openh323_x.x.x.tar.gz
$ export OPENH323DIR=3D<the directory where you extracted OpenH323>
$ cd $OPENH323DIR
$ make opt
$ cp -d $OPENH323DIR/lib/*so* /usr/lib
$ ln -s /usr/lib/libh323_linux_x86_r.so.x.x.x /usr/lib/libopenh323.so
----------------------
So I do exactly what is write up and receive this answer
when I want to compile :
-----------------
[root@localhost opt]# cd $PWLIBDIR
[root@localhost pwlib]# make both
make/ptlib.mak:41: pwlib/make/unix.mak: Aucun fichier ou r=E9pertoire de =
ce type
make/ptlib.mak:42: pwlib/make/common.mak: Aucun fichier ou r=E9pertoire d=
e ce=20
type
make: *** Pas de r=E8gle pour fabriquer la cible `pwlib/make/common.mak'.=
 Arr=EAt.
------------------------------
and the both :  "pwlib/make/unix.mak" , "pwlib/make/common.mak" :  exists=
 !

What can happen ?

I try with The RPM Red-Hat files gnomemeetingn 0.95 , pwlib, openH323 ...=
 :
they need a lot of dependencies ...

Is it possible to update gnomemeeting ? :-)

antoine






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Hi all!

I wrote a few weeks back with a sound conflict problem. I took
everyone's advice and managed to install ALSA on my system. ALSA is now
apparently working, but the sound quality when I try to call my partner
is bad at her end. She says she only hears every second word and the
quality sounds like I'm underwater!

I'm on a cable connection using Gnome 2 on top of Mandrake 9 with a
Soundbaster PCI128 sound card and Logitech Quickcam. My partne is on a
56k modem connection using NetMeeting (with the MS-GSM codec). We have
both used NetMeeting successfully, so her connection seems to be able to
support reasonable video and audio connections.

So, is my problem that:

a) OpenH323 doesn't deal well with low bandwidth? That is, it's not my
problem, really, but a downer. 

b) I don't have ALSA installed correctly? Damien said that ALSA can deal
with the full-duplex problem of the SoundBlaster PCI128, but do I need
to configure any options to do that? Also, although draksound tells me
that I'm using the ALSA sound system, I'm not sure that I'm using the
ALSA devices. GnomeMeeting tells me that my audio player is
dev/sound/dsp, mixer is dev/mixer, audio recorder is dev/sound/dsp, and
recorder mixer is dev/mixer. Does that sound right? 

c) Should I kill ESD? I tried that this morning but the video
disappeared!

d) I'm running GAIM at the same time, but with sound disabled. We use
GAIM so that she can give me her IP address (she has dynamic IP
addressing). Could GAIM be conflicting?

It's a big ask, but I'd like to test my setup with someone on a cable
connection using GnomeMeeting or NetMeeting with MS-GSM enabled, to see
whether the sound is as bad in that case. If you've got some time and a
willingness to help a newbie (new to linux and GM, but not entirely
clueless), please let me know. 

Until anon,

Sean

-- 
E. Sean Rintel
Communication Department
University at Albany, SUNY
Albany, NY, 12222, USA
http://www.albany.edu/~er8430




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On Tuesday 03 December 2002 19:21, antoine wrote:
> Hi,
> I try to update gnomemeeting
> ----------------------------
> 5.2.1. Compile PWlib
>  You have to compile PWlib that way:
> tar xvzf pwlib_x.x.x.tar.gz
> $ export PWLIBDIR=3D<the directory where you extracted pwlib>
> $ cd $PWLIBDIR
> $ make opt
> $ cp -d $PWLIBDIR/lib/*so* /usr/lib
> $ ln -s /usr/lib/libpt_linux_x86_r.so.x.x.x /usr/lib/libpt.so
> ----------------
> 5.2.2. Compile OpenH323
>  You have to compile OpenH323 that way:
> $ tar xvzf openh323_x.x.x.tar.gz
> $ export OPENH323DIR=3D<the directory where you extracted OpenH323>
> $ cd $OPENH323DIR
> $ make opt
> $ cp -d $OPENH323DIR/lib/*so* /usr/lib
> $ ln -s /usr/lib/libh323_linux_x86_r.so.x.x.x /usr/lib/libopenh323.so
> ----------------------
> So I do exactly what is write up and receive this answer
> when I want to compile :
> -----------------
> [root@localhost opt]# cd $PWLIBDIR
> [root@localhost pwlib]# make both
> make/ptlib.mak:41: pwlib/make/unix.mak: Aucun fichier ou r=E9pertoire d=
e ce
> type make/ptlib.mak:42: pwlib/make/common.mak: Aucun fichier ou r=E9per=
toire
> de ce type
> make: *** Pas de r=E8gle pour fabriquer la cible `pwlib/make/common.mak=
'.
> Arr=EAt. ------------------------------
> and the both :  "pwlib/make/unix.mak" , "pwlib/make/common.mak" :  exis=
ts !
>Hello

What are you compiling for? Depending on your distribution, download the=20
needed RPMs from http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3D5&pos=3D0
Download them to your home directory. Move all three RPMs into an empty=20
directory on your desktop. If it doesn't exist, make it (right click on e=
mpty=20
desktop  > "Create new..." > "Directory". Call it -say- RPM. Change your=20
working directory: type  (without the quotation marks) "cd RPM". The prom=
pt=20
will then change accordingly. Type "su" (no quotation marks). You'll be a=
sked=20
for your root password. Type it in. The prompt will change, probably to #=
=2E=20
Type "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" (no quotation marks). All three RPMs will be then=20
installed.
Good luck.
Pablo

> What can happen ?
>
> I try with The RPM Red-Hat files gnomemeetingn 0.95 , pwlib, openH323 .=
=2E. :
> they need a lot of dependencies ...
>
> Is it possible to update gnomemeeting ? :-)
>
> antoine
>
>
>
>
>
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From julien.puydt@netpratique.fr  Tue Dec  3 14:37:56 2002
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Le mar 03/12/2002 à 18:44, E. Sean Rintel a écrit :
> Hi all!
> 
> I wrote a few weeks back with a sound conflict problem. I took
> everyone's advice and managed to install ALSA on my system. ALSA is now
> apparently working, but the sound quality when I try to call my partner
> is bad at her end. She says she only hears every second word and the
> quality sounds like I'm underwater!

This sounds more like bad settings for your bandwith. If you want good
sound, decrease the video quality (either by having less good images, or
fewer).

> I'm on a cable connection using Gnome 2 on top of Mandrake 9 with a
> Soundbaster PCI128 sound card and Logitech Quickcam. My partne is on a
> 56k modem connection using NetMeeting (with the MS-GSM codec). We have
> both used NetMeeting successfully, so her connection seems to be able to
> support reasonable video and audio connections.

56k modem connection => really decrease video quality if you want good
sound.

> So, is my problem that:
> 
> a) OpenH323 doesn't deal well with low bandwidth? That is, it's not my
> problem, really, but a downer. 

Low bandwith needs very good codecs ; you can't use speex with a
netmeeting client, and unless you have money, the other good codecs
aren't available for gnomemeeting.

> b) I don't have ALSA installed correctly? Damien said that ALSA can deal
> with the full-duplex problem of the SoundBlaster PCI128, but do I need
> to configure any options to do that? Also, although draksound tells me
> that I'm using the ALSA sound system, I'm not sure that I'm using the
> ALSA devices. GnomeMeeting tells me that my audio player is
> dev/sound/dsp, mixer is dev/mixer, audio recorder is dev/sound/dsp, and
> recorder mixer is dev/mixer. Does that sound right? 

I don't think so.

> c) Should I kill ESD? I tried that this morning but the video
> disappeared!

I don't see why killing esd would cause video problems...

> d) I'm running GAIM at the same time, but with sound disabled. We use
> GAIM so that she can give me her IP address (she has dynamic IP
> addressing). Could GAIM be conflicting?

I don't think so, unless you're sending very long messages very fast ;
then you may be able to eat your friend's bandwith.
You know, if you both register to ils.seconix.com, you won't have to
send your ip one another...

> It's a big ask, but I'd like to test my setup with someone on a cable
> connection using GnomeMeeting or NetMeeting with MS-GSM enabled, to see
> whether the sound is as bad in that case. If you've got some time and a
> willingness to help a newbie (new to linux and GM, but not entirely
> clueless), please let me know. 

Please, come on irc.gnome.org, channel #gnomemeeting. You may then find
other users looking for testing, or ready to help.

Snark on #gnomemeeting
-- 
PUYDT Julien <julien.puydt@netpratique.fr>


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> What are you compiling for? Depending on your distribution, download th=
e
> needed RPMs from http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3D5&pos=3D0
> Download them to your home directory. Move all three RPMs into an empty
> directory on your desktop. If it doesn't exist, make it (right click on
> empty desktop  > "Create new..." > "Directory". Call it -say- RPM. Chan=
ge
> your working directory: type  (without the quotation marks) "cd RPM". T=
he
> prompt will then change accordingly. Type "su" (no quotation marks). Yo=
u'll
> be asked for your root password. Type it in. The prompt will change,
> probably to #. Type "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" (no quotation marks). All three RP=
Ms
> will be then installed.
> Good luck.
> Pablo
_______________________________________________
Hi,
I made exactly what you wrote up, creating a new directory "gnomeeting"  =
under=20
my home directory :
and I receive this answer below ... :
grrrr .. :-)
antoine
------
[root@localhost gnomeeting]# ls
gnomemeeting-0.85.1-3.i386.rpm  gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386.rpm =20
pwlib-1.3.11-1.i386.rpm
gnomemeeting-0.93.1-4.src.rpm   openh323-1.9.10-4.i386.rpm
[root@localhost gnomeeting]# rpm -Uvh *.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
        GConf2 >=3D 1.2.0 is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libart_lgpl_2.so.2   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libbonobo-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libbonobo-activation.so.4   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libbonoboui-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgconf-2.so.4   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgnome-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgnomecanvas-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgnomeui-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgnomevfs-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        liblinc.so.1   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libORBit-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libstdc++.so.5   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
        libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
        libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
        libstdc++.so.5   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
        libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
        libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libstdc++.so.5   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
        pwlib =3D 1.2.12 is needed by pwlib-devel-1.2.12-3
        openh323 =3D 1.8.0 is needed by openh323-devel-1.8.0-3
------------------------


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You have to upgrade those libs, or install a newer version of your
distribution which seems to be a bit outdated.


Le mer 04/12/2002 à 11:54, antoine a écrit :
> > What are you compiling for? Depending on your distribution, download the
> > needed RPMs from http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=5&pos=0
> > Download them to your home directory. Move all three RPMs into an empty
> > directory on your desktop. If it doesn't exist, make it (right click on
> > empty desktop  > "Create new..." > "Directory". Call it -say- RPM. Change
> > your working directory: type  (without the quotation marks) "cd RPM". The
> > prompt will then change accordingly. Type "su" (no quotation marks). You'll
> > be asked for your root password. Type it in. The prompt will change,
> > probably to #. Type "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" (no quotation marks). All three RPMs
> > will be then installed.
> > Good luck.
> > Pablo
> _______________________________________________
> Hi,
> I made exactly what you wrote up, creating a new directory "gnomeeting"  under 
> my home directory :
> and I receive this answer below ... :
> grrrr .. :-)
> antoine
> ------
> [root@localhost gnomeeting]# ls
> gnomemeeting-0.85.1-3.i386.rpm  gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386.rpm  
> pwlib-1.3.11-1.i386.rpm
> gnomemeeting-0.93.1-4.src.rpm   openh323-1.9.10-4.i386.rpm
> [root@localhost gnomeeting]# rpm -Uvh *.rpm
> error: failed dependencies:
>         GConf2 >= 1.2.0 is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libart_lgpl_2.so.2   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libbonobo-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libbonobo-activation.so.4   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libbonoboui-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgconf-2.so.4   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnome-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnomecanvas-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnomeui-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnomevfs-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         liblinc.so.1   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libORBit-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libstdc++.so.5   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libstdc++.so.5   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libstdc++.so.5   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         pwlib = 1.2.12 is needed by pwlib-devel-1.2.12-3
>         openh323 = 1.8.0 is needed by openh323-devel-1.8.0-3
> ------------------------
> 
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Is Gnome2 installed in your system? GnomeMeeting 0.9x requires Gnome 2=20
libraries.
On Wednesday 04 December 2002 11:54, antoine wrote:
> > What are you compiling for? Depending on your distribution, download =
the
> > needed RPMs from http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3D5&pos=3D=
0
> > Download them to your home directory. Move all three RPMs into an emp=
ty
> > directory on your desktop. If it doesn't exist, make it (right click =
on
> > empty desktop  > "Create new..." > "Directory". Call it -say- RPM. Ch=
ange
> > your working directory: type  (without the quotation marks) "cd RPM".=
 The
> > prompt will then change accordingly. Type "su" (no quotation marks).
> > You'll be asked for your root password. Type it in. The prompt will
> > change, probably to #. Type "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" (no quotation marks). Al=
l
> > three RPMs will be then installed.
> > Good luck.
> > Pablo
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hi,
> I made exactly what you wrote up, creating a new directory "gnomeeting"=
=20
> under my home directory :
> and I receive this answer below ... :
> grrrr .. :-)
> antoine
> ------
> [root@localhost gnomeeting]# ls
> gnomemeeting-0.85.1-3.i386.rpm  gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386.rpm
> pwlib-1.3.11-1.i386.rpm
> gnomemeeting-0.93.1-4.src.rpm   openh323-1.9.10-4.i386.rpm
> [root@localhost gnomeeting]# rpm -Uvh *.rpm
> error: failed dependencies:
>         GConf2 >=3D 1.2.0 is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libart_lgpl_2.so.2   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libbonobo-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libbonobo-activation.so.4   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libbonoboui-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgconf-2.so.4   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnome-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnomecanvas-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnomeui-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnomevfs-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         liblinc.so.1   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libORBit-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libstdc++.so.5   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-=
3
>         libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libstdc++.so.5   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libstdc++.so.5   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         pwlib =3D 1.2.12 is needed by pwlib-devel-1.2.12-3
>         openh323 =3D 1.8.0 is needed by openh323-devel-1.8.0-3
> ------------------------
>
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Hi all,


A new mailing list has been created for dicussion related to the
development of GnomeMeeting (new features, bugs, patches, fixes,
enhancements, documentation, translations,...). All people wanting to
contribute to development of GnomeMeeting are welcome to subscribe to
this new mailing list at :
http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-devel-list

=> if you are interested to help in the development of GnomeMeeting in a
way or another, please subscribe :)

The current mailing list will of course continue to exist for user
problems, installation problems, and generic questions not related to
the development of GnomeMeeting but to its usage.

-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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isplitting the list and putting most of the programming/debugging on 
that list and having a user list will quite likely be very useful.   
 thanks to the people who sent me some information on use, very much 
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Hi,

how do I switch on the ability to dock gnomemeeting into the taskbar under
KDE 3.0.3? In 0.85 there used to be a tick I could make in preferences I
think. If I click "start hidden" gnomemeeting doesn't show up anywhere at
all.

I compiled gnomemeeting 0.94.1 from scratch under Redhat 7.3, i.e.
non-gnome2.

Robert


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Hi !

Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2002 13:42 schrieb Robert Schmidt:

> how do I switch on the ability to dock gnomemeeting into the taskbar un=
der
> KDE 3.0.3? In 0.85 there used to be a tick I could make in preferences =
I
> think. If I click "start hidden" gnomemeeting doesn't show up anywhere =
at
> all.

The gnomemeeting docklet doesn't work in kde 3.0.x because it's a new typ=
e of=20
docklet. It will work in kde 3.1 (which was to be released tomorrow, but =
had=20
to be delayed).

Matthias Marks (aka matti on #gnomemeeting)

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Hi everybody.

I have recently installed FreeBSD 4.7 on my PC with
MSI 6330 using integrated sound via VT82C686B.
I add "device pcm" in my kernel and the sound work
very well MP3,video etc...

The problem is that when i use Gnomemeeting, I can
hear my freind but it seems that there is nothing sent
on the internet when i'm talking.

Gnomemeeting gives me only this devices : /dev/dsp0.3
(which exist in the /dev

It's not a firewall probleme because i don't use it
(crazy boy !)

Could someone give me help about this ?


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Have you tried to record to make sure that your microphone works
correctly?
The fact that other applications work proves that playback s working,
but that doesn't prove that :
- your audio driver is able to do full-duplex (playing and recording at
the same time)
- your microphone is working and volumes are ok.

Hope it helps,


Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 15:58, LEZIN Lo a écrit :
> Hi everybody.
> 
> I have recently installed FreeBSD 4.7 on my PC with
> MSI 6330 using integrated sound via VT82C686B.
> I add "device pcm" in my kernel and the sound work
> very well MP3,video etc...
> 
> The problem is that when i use Gnomemeeting, I can
> hear my freind but it seems that there is nothing sent
> on the internet when i'm talking.
> 
> Gnomemeeting gives me only this devices : /dev/dsp0.3
> (which exist in the /dev
> 
> It's not a firewall probleme because i don't use it
> (crazy boy !)
> 
> Could someone give me help about this ?
> 
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Damien Sandras wrote:

>Have you tried to record to make sure that your microphone works
>correctly?
>The fact that other applications work proves that playback s working,
>but that doesn't prove that :
>- your audio driver is able to do full-duplex (playing and recording at
>the same time)
>- your microphone is working and volumes are ok.
>
>Hope it helps,
>  
>

Thanks a lot for your help.

But in fact it's very strange :

cat /dev/sndstat gives me :

pcm0: <VIA VT82C686A> at io 0xdc00 irq 11 (1p/1r/0v channels duplex)

So can i think that this means that sound card is full duplex ?

I don't know how to test record and listen a the same time :-( How can i 
test it ?
In fact i  tested it with 'dd' but the sound had a low level and was 
absolutely disgusting.

I have put the mixer to 100:100 (with wmix i'm using windowmaker with no 
GNOME installed.Just the things necessary for gnomemeeting to work. I 
have used the 'ports' methode) for all but nothing more happens.




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Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 16:23, LEZIN Lo a écrit :

> 
> Thanks a lot for your help.
> 
> But in fact it's very strange :
> 
> cat /dev/sndstat gives me :
> 
> pcm0: <VIA VT82C686A> at io 0xdc00 irq 11 (1p/1r/0v channels duplex)
> 
> So can i think that this means that sound card is full duplex ?

Yes, but that doesn't mean that the driver is full-duplex.

> 
> I don't know how to test record and listen a the same time :-( How can i 
> test it ?

First try to record with rec -d /dev/dsp myfile.wav
of course, change /dev/dsp to your device.

Then, something like cat /dev/dsp > /dev/dsp should echo everything of
what you say.

> In fact i  tested it with 'dd' but the sound had a low level and was 
> absolutely disgusting.
> 

That is bad news. Under Linux, ALSA users have a switch to enable the
Mic Boost and have a better recording volume. I don't know if ALSA
exists for FreeBSD but I doubt so.

> I have put the mixer to 100:100 (with wmix i'm using windowmaker with no 
> GNOME installed.Just the things necessary for gnomemeeting to work. I 
> have used the 'ports' methode) for all but nothing more happens.
> 

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>
>
>Yes, but that doesn't mean that the driver is full-duplex.
>  
>
HOHO ! so how to know if it is full duplex?

>First try to record with rec -d /dev/dsp myfile.wav
>of course, change /dev/dsp to your device.
>  
>
Sorry what is the package which contains "rec" ?

>Then, something like cat /dev/dsp > /dev/dsp should echo everything of
>what you say.
>  
>
I tried it but nothing happens ...Does it means that it's not full-duplex ?
So where can i find a full duplex drivers for it ? And how can i install 
it if it exist ?

Thanks you for support


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Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 16:52, LEZIN Lo a écrit :
> >


> HOHO ! so how to know if it is full duplex?
> 

Testing or driver doc should tell.

> >
> Sorry what is the package which contains "rec" ?
> 

Sox on linux.

> I tried it but nothing happens ...Does it means that it's not full-duplex ?


Most probably :(

> So where can i find a full duplex drivers for it ? And how can i install 
> it if it exist ?

I don't know for FreeBSD. In that case, for linux, the solution is to
install ALSA from www.alsa-project.org .
Another solution is to buy a webcam with an internal microphone (like
Philips ToUCam Pro) and use the soundcard only for playback.

> 
> Thanks you for support

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> From: Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
> Sender: gnomemeeting-list-admin@gnome.org
> Date: 05 Dec 2002 16:35:08 +0100
> 
> Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 16:23, LEZIN Lo a écrit :
> 
> > 
> > Thanks a lot for your help.
> > 
> > But in fact it's very strange :
> > 
> > cat /dev/sndstat gives me :
> > 
> > pcm0: <VIA VT82C686A> at io 0xdc00 irq 11 (1p/1r/0v channels duplex)
> > 
> > So can i think that this means that sound card is full duplex ?
> 
> Yes, but that doesn't mean that the driver is full-duplex.

I have exactly the same problem with FreeBSD 4.7. I see it on three
different systems all running with embedded Intel ICH sound
devices. All are duplex and the drivers claim to be full-duplex. 

> > I don't know how to test record and listen a the same time :-( How can i 
> > test it ?
> 
> First try to record with rec -d /dev/dsp myfile.wav
> of course, change /dev/dsp to your device.

This works fine (as far as I can tell). But when I try to paly back,
the sound is badly garbled! Does what is sometimes called
"motor-boating" and plays back VERY slowly in tenth second (time is an
estimate/guess) intervals, although it is just barely recognizable.

> Then, something like cat /dev/dsp > /dev/dsp should echo everything of
> what you say.

It does, but, like the output of rec(1), it plays back very slowly
like it is playing a tenth second of data, pausing a tenth second and
then playing another tenth second of data. It is just recognizable.

On the other hand, if I use the Gnome Sound Recorder, I can record and
playback just fine. If I play back the .wav file I generated, it
sounds just like when I cat'ed it to /dev/dsp. And, If I play back a
file recored by the Gnome Sound recorder, I hear horrible squawking,
not at all like what I get going the other way.

Clearly there is some sound problem here, but I am very confused by
the conflicting results of my tests. And, when I try to send audio
with GnomeMeeting, I get absolutely no sound, garbled or otherwise.

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I have no clue about FreeBSD, but perhaps Roger will answer.


Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 17:18, Kevin Oberman a écrit :
> > From: Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
> > Sender: gnomemeeting-list-admin@gnome.org
> > Date: 05 Dec 2002 16:35:08 +0100
> > 
> > Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 16:23, LEZIN Lo a écrit :
> > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks a lot for your help.
> > > 
> > > But in fact it's very strange :
> > > 
> > > cat /dev/sndstat gives me :
> > > 
> > > pcm0: <VIA VT82C686A> at io 0xdc00 irq 11 (1p/1r/0v channels duplex)
> > > 
> > > So can i think that this means that sound card is full duplex ?
> > 
> > Yes, but that doesn't mean that the driver is full-duplex.
> 
> I have exactly the same problem with FreeBSD 4.7. I see it on three
> different systems all running with embedded Intel ICH sound
> devices. All are duplex and the drivers claim to be full-duplex. 
> 
> > > I don't know how to test record and listen a the same time :-( How can i 
> > > test it ?
> > 
> > First try to record with rec -d /dev/dsp myfile.wav
> > of course, change /dev/dsp to your device.
> 
> This works fine (as far as I can tell). But when I try to paly back,
> the sound is badly garbled! Does what is sometimes called
> "motor-boating" and plays back VERY slowly in tenth second (time is an
> estimate/guess) intervals, although it is just barely recognizable.
> 
> > Then, something like cat /dev/dsp > /dev/dsp should echo everything of
> > what you say.
> 
> It does, but, like the output of rec(1), it plays back very slowly
> like it is playing a tenth second of data, pausing a tenth second and
> then playing another tenth second of data. It is just recognizable.
> 
> On the other hand, if I use the Gnome Sound Recorder, I can record and
> playback just fine. If I play back the .wav file I generated, it
> sounds just like when I cat'ed it to /dev/dsp. And, If I play back a
> file recored by the Gnome Sound recorder, I hear horrible squawking,
> not at all like what I get going the other way.
> 
> Clearly there is some sound problem here, but I am very confused by
> the conflicting results of my tests. And, when I try to send audio
> with GnomeMeeting, I get absolutely no sound, garbled or otherwise.
> 
> R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
> Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
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Hi,

With a MDK 9.0 and gnomemeeting  0.95 version,
Gnome 2.0, its working ok.
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I have tested rec -d /dev/dsp while player a mp3 whith xmms... and a get 
an horrible destroyed sound while i record during listening. I mean 
"Sting was not the same as always ..." ;-)

So i think that full-duplex is not implemented in the kernel's default 
drivers.

So does anyone know someting about a full-duplex driver for Freebsd on 
VT82C686C  (or for any other ...to help us)

Or did someone tested ALSA under FreeBSD (if it's possible... ;-)).



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Le Jeudi 5 D=C3=A9cembre 2002 18:46, antoine a =C3=A9crit :
Tu as bien du savoir faire!
Moi cela ne marche pas du tout.
Je suis aussi sous MDK 9, en ADSL, ens standalone (pas de reseau ni firew=
all),
gnome icu marche bien, sendmail, aussi et tout le reste aussi.
Un telnet ils.seconix.com m 389 repond que la connection se fait,=20
Gomemeeting ne repond pas du tout.
je me pose des questions sans r=C3=A9ponse, quelle est ta config logiciel=
le?=20

> Hi,
>
> With a MDK 9.0 and gnomemeeting  0.95 version,
> Gnome 2.0, its working ok.
> antoine
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Hi,

This is an english-speaking mailing list, not a french speaking mailing
list. Moreover, when you have a problem, there are 2 things to do:
- read the FAQ
- if it doesn't work, mail the mailing list in english with a
description of the problem. "GnomeMeeting doesn't answer" (I translated)
doesn't mean anything to me. There are many people on ILS who do not
answer calls, like me for example.

Thanks to be more precise when asking questions, and to use the language
of the mailing list.


Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 21:13, Patrick a écrit :
> Le Jeudi 5 Décembre 2002 18:46, antoine a écrit :
> Tu as bien du savoir faire!
> Moi cela ne marche pas du tout.
> Je suis aussi sous MDK 9, en ADSL, ens standalone (pas de reseau ni firewall),
> gnome icu marche bien, sendmail, aussi et tout le reste aussi.
> Un telnet ils.seconix.com m 389 repond que la connection se fait, 
> Gomemeeting ne repond pas du tout.
> je me pose des questions sans réponse, quelle est ta config logicielle? 

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What possibilities do I have to talk to someone on GM, and at the same time play low music or at least get sound notifications occasionally?
I have learned that GM can't be used with a esd, for a reason I have forgotten. But are there any alternatives? Or will it be possible some other way in the future?
I was told something about soundcards with two dsp (I think that's correct) but I don't have such a card. No way to do this on software level?

Hakon




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Sorry if this is slightly off-topic ...

I'm trying to set up my creative webcam (ct6840) on freebsd 4.7-RELEASE. It 
seems to be working ok - apps like 'vid' can take a snap.

Unfortunately gnomemeeting only lets me choose between /dev/bktr and 
/dev/meteor for the camera device, and my cam identifies itself as ugen0 
(just the generic usb device). Looking at the man pages for bktr and meteor, 
neither of these would seem suitable.

The best I could think of was to try making /dev/bktr0 a symbolic link to 
/dev/ugen0, but that didn't work.

Looking through google, it seems a few other people have had this problem 
too. Unfortunately noone seemed to have an answer.

Cheers in advance

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Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 19:14, Hakon G a écrit :
> What possibilities do I have to talk to someone on GM, and at the same time play low music or at least get sound notifications occasionally?

No way, and it would be very unpolite ;-)

> I have learned that GM can't be used with a esd, for a reason I have forgotten. But are there any alternatives? Or will it be possible some other way in the future?
> I was told something about soundcards with two dsp (I think that's correct) but I don't have such a card. No way to do this on software level?
> 

It will work when someone will implement dynamic output to esd and
artsdsp in pwlib, or when Gnome and KDE will finally choose a common
sound daemon.


> Hakon

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Hi Pete

> Unfortunately gnomemeeting only lets me choose between /dev/bktr and
> /dev/meteor for the camera device

That is because these are the only devices you can use. :-(

FreeBSD does not have device drivers for any USB cameras and so
GnomeMeeting cannot grab live video from them.

The 'vid' program works because it has chunks of the linux ov511 driver
embedded in.

So right now, there is no way to do anything with GnomeMeetin and USB
cameras.

Roger



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Hi there

Can you try someting for me on your FreeBSD box.

1) built the ohphone application from the Ports tree
(or compile from source if you want)

2) make a call from ohphone with the -t option
This enables tracing.
eg ohphone -n -t remote.server.name


The trace lots are printed on screen. See if there is a line which says
 codec.cxx (nnn) Codec  Read truncated frame of raw data. Wanted xxx and got
yyy

If you see this error message (like I do) then it is showing up a bug in the
audio drivers.
If you do get this, I can chat to Cameron and Orion (the sound driver
developers)#
and try and get a fix.
I've also got a fix for the pwlib library which works around this kernel
bug.

Roger
--
Roger Hardiman
roger@freebsd.org
FreeBSD, OpenH323 and GnomeMeeting projects.



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gnomemeeting --debug=1 
should have the same effect...



Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 22:19, Roger Hardiman a écrit :
> Hi there
> 
> Can you try someting for me on your FreeBSD box.
> 
> 1) built the ohphone application from the Ports tree
> (or compile from source if you want)
> 
> 2) make a call from ohphone with the -t option
> This enables tracing.
> eg ohphone -n -t remote.server.name
> 
> 
> The trace lots are printed on screen. See if there is a line which says
>  codec.cxx (nnn) Codec  Read truncated frame of raw data. Wanted xxx and got
> yyy
> 
> If you see this error message (like I do) then it is showing up a bug in the
> audio drivers.
> If you do get this, I can chat to Cameron and Orion (the sound driver
> developers)#
> and try and get a fix.
> I've also got a fix for the pwlib library which works around this kernel
> bug.
> 
> Roger
> --
> Roger Hardiman
> roger@freebsd.org
> FreeBSD, OpenH323 and GnomeMeeting projects.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list


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Le Jeudi 5 D=E9cembre 2002 21:23, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
Vous m'en voyez fort marri !
C'est bien la premi=E8re fois que ma langue maternelle m'exposait =E0 un =
reproche!=20
Je refuse de parler l'anglais (je ne connais que le latin et le grec=20
ancien!...)
J'ai l'honneur de vous saluer.

Patrick Castero ar Haliguen
Bretagne, France=20

(Si c'est cela l'europe...)

> Hi,
>
> This is an english-speaking mailing list, not a french speaking mailing
> list. Moreover, when you have a problem, there are 2 things to do:
> - read the FAQ
> - if it doesn't work, mail the mailing list in english with a
> description of the problem. "GnomeMeeting doesn't answer" (I translated=
)
> doesn't mean anything to me. There are many people on ILS who do not
> answer calls, like me for example.
>
> Thanks to be more precise when asking questions, and to use the languag=
e
> of the mailing list.
>
> Le jeu 05/12/2002 =E0 21:13, Patrick a =E9crit :
> > Le Jeudi 5 D=E9cembre 2002 18:46, antoine a =E9crit :
> > Tu as bien du savoir faire!
> > Moi cela ne marche pas du tout.
> > Je suis aussi sous MDK 9, en ADSL, ens standalone (pas de reseau ni
> > firewall), gnome icu marche bien, sendmail, aussi et tout le reste au=
ssi.
> > Un telnet ils.seconix.com m 389 repond que la connection se fait,
> > Gomemeeting ne repond pas du tout.
> > je me pose des questions sans r=E9ponse, quelle est ta config logicie=
lle?


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Le Jeudi 5 D=C3=A9cembre 2002 20:13, Patrick a =C3=A9crit :
> Le Jeudi 5 D=C3=A9cembre 2002 18:46, antoine a =C3=A9crit :
> Tu as bien du savoir faire!
> Moi cela ne marche pas du tout.
> Je suis aussi sous MDK 9, en ADSL, ens standalone (pas de reseau ni
> firewall), gnome icu marche bien, sendmail, aussi et tout le reste auss=
i.
> Un telnet ils.seconix.com m 389 repond que la connection se fait,
> Gomemeeting ne repond pas du tout.
> je me pose des questions sans r=C3=A9ponse, quelle est ta config logici=
elle?
-----------------------------------
>> Hi,
> > > With a MDK 9.0 and gnomemeeting  0.95 version,
> > Gnome 2.0, its working ok.
> > antoine
--------------------------
STRANGE !
it works pretty good with MDK 9.0 and GM 0.95 ... with no particular=20
configuration to do ...
tell us what are your preferences in the config menu of GM ?
bye
antoine

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Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 21:49, Patrick a écrit :
> Le Jeudi 5 Décembre 2002 21:23, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> Vous m'en voyez fort marri !
> C'est bien la première fois que ma langue maternelle m'exposait à un reproche! 
> Je refuse de parler l'anglais (je ne connais que le latin et le grec 
> ancien!...)
> J'ai l'honneur de vous saluer.
> 
> Patrick Castero ar Haliguen
> Bretagne, France 
> 
> (Si c'est cela l'europe...)

Europe is respecting others, respecting others means trying to speak in
their language and not considering France as the center of the world.
You are sending a mail in french to a mailing list where more than 98%
of the subscribers won't understand anything.
If you are "refusing" to speak english, then don't mail.


-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2002 21:49 schrieb Patrick:
> Le Jeudi 5 D=E9cembre 2002 21:23, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> Vous m'en voyez fort marri !
> C'est bien la premi=E8re fois que ma langue maternelle m'exposait =E0 u=
n
> reproche! Je refuse de parler l'anglais (je ne connais que le latin et =
le
> grec ancien!...)
> J'ai l'honneur de vous saluer.
>
> Patrick Castero ar Haliguen
> Bretagne, France
>
> (Si c'est cela l'europe...)

Ich verstehe =FCberhaupt nicht, worum es hier geht...

Matti

P.S. SCNR ;)

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Le Jeudi 5 D=E9cembre 2002 20:49, Patrick a =E9crit :
> Le Jeudi 5 D=E9cembre 2002 21:23, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> Vous m'en voyez fort marri !
> C'est bien la premi=E8re fois que ma langue maternelle m'exposait =E0 u=
n
> reproche! Je refuse de parler l'anglais (je ne connais que le latin et =
le
> grec ancien!...)
> J'ai l'honneur de vous saluer.
> Patrick Castero ar Haliguen
> Bretagne, France
> (Si c'est cela l'europe...)
>Patrick <castero@free.fr>
------------------
> (je ne connais que le latin et le > grec ancien!...)
and the french  too ... I see.
baaah, to speak english is not a shame ... there are a lot of common poin=
ts=20
between la Bretagne de France and Great Britain , that belongs to Europe =
=2E..
Why do you refuse to speak the living Shakespeare's language ?
latin and old greek are "dead" languages !
antoine

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Hejsa allesammen

Jeg synes I alle er helt forkerte på den! Hverken engelsk eller fransk
er særligt smukke sprog, og jeg nægter derfor at tale eller skrive på
disse sprog.

Derfor vil jeg opfordre verdens befolkning til at udelukkende tale
dansk, og hvis ikke... ja, så må I sgu sejle i jeres egen sø!

O.k. islandsk, norsk og tildels svensk kan vel accepteres :)

Farvel!

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(Btw, please consider all this as a big joke)


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A question:

i am using gnomemeeting, but my camera chipset is Divio NW801, i can't find its driver for linux.
Does Anybody keep the driver?  please give me one ,thank you!

and i want to change a camera which has the linux driver , but i don't know which one can have this , if you are using, please tell me the information so i can go to buy it, thanks!
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On Fri, 06 Dec 2002 09:14:01 +0800
truename <faithdongmei@sina.com> wrote:

> A question:
> 
> i am using gnomemeeting, but my camera chipset is Divio NW801, i can't
> find its driver for linux. Does Anybody keep the driver?  please give
> me one ,thank you!

Google is Your friend :-) http://nw802.sourceforge.net/

> and i want to change a camera which has the linux driver , but i don't
> know which one can have this , if you are using, please tell me the
> information so i can go to buy it,
> thanks!

I recomend You philips webcams which are great supported under linux
:-)) More info is avaible at: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/

				Artur

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 zatem je¶li nie ma rozwi±zania, nie ma problemu.

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Hi all:
    I am using gnomemeeting under RH7.2. The video chip in my USB webcam is Divio NW802. 
    I downloadded the sourcecode of its driver from  sourceforge.com. The compilation was OK and the modules were inserted successfully. GM also has no problem to find the dev and open it. But the problem is that there is nothing grabbed. Only GM logo's on the screen.
    I changed the image format and compiled again but this won't help either.
    I am really mad about this. Could anyone help? Any advice is welcome. 

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Le ven 06/12/2002 à 02:31, Saint Forest a écrit :
> Hi all:
>     I am using gnomemeeting under RH7.2. The video chip in my USB webcam is Divio NW802. 
>     I downloadded the sourcecode of its driver from  sourceforge.com. The compilation was OK and the modules were inserted successfully. GM also has no problem to find the dev and open it. But the problem is that there is nothing grabbed. Only GM logo's on the screen.
>     I changed the image format and compiled again but this won't help either.
>     I am really mad about this. Could anyone help? Any advice is welcome. 
> 
> Thanks in advance                                

We could perhaps give a hint if you give the error message. Without
error message it is hard to help·

More generally, you can read this:
http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3&pos=0#AEN291


Most probably that your webcam driver doesn't support the video format
and colors required by gnomemeeting.
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Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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This is probably a stupid question but comes from someone that knows 
little about Linux
but wants to know a little more ...

The gnomemeeting-latest and gnomemeeting-2002-12-... files under 
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configure file .How are they installed?

Tank you .

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I just installed Gnomemeeting on SuSE 8.1 - It seems to connect to directory, 
but I can't see any listings of other people - it just says I have to 
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Le ven 06/12/2002 à 01:28, Rob Tow a écrit :
> I just installed Gnomemeeting on SuSE 8.1 - It seems to connect to directory, 
> but I can't see any listings of other people - it just says I have to 
> register - but I thought the set-up tool registered me?
> 

You have to fill in your details in the configuration assistant when
GnomeMeeting starts.

Another way to do it is to fill in your Details in Personal Data in the
preferences, then to go in the Directories section and to "Enable
Registering" below the text entry where ils.seconix.com is displayed.

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Hello,

if you are new to Linux, perhaps it is not a good idea to try to compile
gnomemeeting from CVS, you will also need to take latest stable versions
of openh323 and pwlib on openh323.org/bin

If you still want to do it, autogen.sh behaves exactly the same as
configure, just run it like you would run configure.

Le ven 06/12/2002 à 01:07, João Pedro a écrit :
> This is probably a stupid question but comes from someone that knows 
> little about Linux
> but wants to know a little more ...
> 
> The gnomemeeting-latest and gnomemeeting-2002-12-... files under 
> http://www.gnomemeeting.org/admin/downloads/latest/snapshots/ don't have 
> the
> configure file .How are they installed?
> 
> Tank you .
> 
> J.Pedro
> 
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Hi,
   I'm using gm with a Swyx gatekeeper/gateway software, and a quicknet PCI 
internet linejack. 
Local calls to swyxware clients all have very good quality and a medium (1/2 
second) delay. But when I call someone outside (through the gateway) the 
incoming sound (i.e. that from outside to GM) sounds fine, but the outgoing 
(from GM to outside).
How can i check which codecs are used ? I did try to disable all low bandwith 
codecs, but same result.
Also, i don't think that the gateway is the problem, because i have a Siemens 
TA1100 right here, which is basicly GM+quicknet in hardware, a POTS to VoIP 
converter, which only speeks H.323 and works perfectly fine with swxy.

Any ideas ?

TIA,
    Michael
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You can check what codec is used in the "General History".
The best to use when you have a Quicknet card is G.723.1.


Le ven 06/12/2002 à 09:36, Michael Glauche a écrit :

> Hi,
>    I'm using gm with a Swyx gatekeeper/gateway software, and a quicknet PCI 
> internet linejack. 
> Local calls to swyxware clients all have very good quality and a medium (1/2 
> second) delay. But when I call someone outside (through the gateway) the 
> incoming sound (i.e. that from outside to GM) sounds fine, but the outgoing 
> (from GM to outside).
> How can i check which codecs are used ? I did try to disable all low bandwith 
> codecs, but same result.
> Also, i don't think that the gateway is the problem, because i have a Siemens 
> TA1100 right here, which is basicly GM+quicknet in hardware, a POTS to VoIP 
> converter, which only speeks H.323 and works perfectly fine with swxy.
> 
> Any ideas ?
> 

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Am Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 10:54 schrieb Damien Sandras:
> You can check what codec is used in the "General History".
> The best to use when you have a Quicknet card is G.723.1.
>

11:13:30 Calling 09200xxx
11:13:31 Attaching lid hardware to codec
11:13:31 Started New Logical Channel...
11:13:31 Receiving G.723.1{hw}
11:13:31 Attaching lid hardware to codec
11:13:31 Started New Logical Channel...
11:13:31 Sending G.723.1{hw}
11:13:31 Disabled silence detection for G.723.1{hw}
11:13:46 Fast start enabled
11:13:46 H.245 Tunnelling disabled
11:13:46 Connected with 09200415  using Swyx IpPbxSrv	4.01 
11:14:01 Remote party has cleared the call
11:14:01 Call duration: 00:00:15


so, i'm using G.723.1, but the sending qualtiy is still very bad. they say the 
sound is hacked into chucks .., no constant sending. Silence detection is 
disabled. 
Is there any way to regulate volume on the quicknet device ? I allways hear 
the remote party way too loud ...

regards,
        Michael

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Hello,

I run SuSE 8 with ALSA v0.9.0rc3 installed. Soundcard is a via 686. Recog=
nized=20
audio devices are 0: VIA82C686A (DUPLEX) and 1:USB Audio; recognized mixe=
rs=20
are 0: ICEnsemble ICE1232 and 1:USB Mixer.=20

I've succesfully upgraded to Gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3. Video is perfect. Whe=
n=20
answering an incoming call, I am able to get incoming sound only. When tr=
ying=20
to call someone at ils.seconix.com, I get the following error message:
"Could not open audio channel for audio transmission (soundcard busy?)=20
Disabling audio transmission."  I use a Philips ToUCam: devices are set t=
o:
Audio Player: /dev/dsp0
Player Mixer: /dev/mixer0
Audio Recorder: /dev/dsp1
Recorder Mixer: /dev/mixer1
Doing cat /dev/dsp1 > /dev/dsp0 works flawlessly.
I use KDE. aRts is not enabled, and snd-mixer-oss, snd-pcm-oss and audio=20
modules are already installed.
When launching GM, I get the following modprobe messages:

Dec  5 23:02:07 linux modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-=
3
Dec  5 23:02:07 linux modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module=20
sound-service-3-3
Dec  5 23:08:05 linux kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout

When I received these messages, I'd already applied the fix that SuSE's=20
Support Database provides for the timeout problem.=20
Any ideas? Thanks for your help.

Pablo Ortuzar



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Le ven 06/12/2002 à 11:16, Michael Glauche a écrit :
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> 
> so, i'm using G.723.1, but the sending qualtiy is still very bad. they say the 
> sound is hacked into chucks .., no constant sending. Silence detection is 
> disabled. 


Do they have a good jitter buffer?

> Is there any way to regulate volume on the quicknet device ? I allways hear 
> the remote party way too loud ...
> 

Perhaps is it a volume problem in that case, I have not implemented a
way yet to change the volume. It will be done soon :)

> regards,
>         Michael

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What module are you using for the ToUCam microphone?
snd-usb-audio?

If it is the case, unload it and use the standard audio kernel module
instead (modprobe 'audio').


Le ven 06/12/2002 à 11:39, Pablo Ortúzar a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> I run SuSE 8 with ALSA v0.9.0rc3 installed. Soundcard is a via 686. Recognized 
> audio devices are 0: VIA82C686A (DUPLEX) and 1:USB Audio; recognized mixers 
> are 0: ICEnsemble ICE1232 and 1:USB Mixer. 
> 
> I've succesfully upgraded to Gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3. Video is perfect. When 
> answering an incoming call, I am able to get incoming sound only. When trying 
> to call someone at ils.seconix.com, I get the following error message:
> "Could not open audio channel for audio transmission (soundcard busy?) 
> Disabling audio transmission."  I use a Philips ToUCam: devices are set to:
> Audio Player: /dev/dsp0
> Player Mixer: /dev/mixer0
> Audio Recorder: /dev/dsp1
> Recorder Mixer: /dev/mixer1
> Doing cat /dev/dsp1 > /dev/dsp0 works flawlessly.
> I use KDE. aRts is not enabled, and snd-mixer-oss, snd-pcm-oss and audio 
> modules are already installed.
> When launching GM, I get the following modprobe messages:
> 
> Dec  5 23:02:07 linux modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-3
> Dec  5 23:02:07 linux modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module 
> sound-service-3-3
> Dec  5 23:08:05 linux kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
> 
> When I received these messages, I'd already applied the fix that SuSE's 
> Support Database provides for the timeout problem. 
> Any ideas? Thanks for your help.
> 
> Pablo Ortuzar
> 
> 
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Am Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 11:57 schrieb Damien Sandras:
> Le ven 06/12/2002 =E0 11:16, Michael Glauche a =E9crit :
> >
> > so, i'm using G.723.1, but the sending qualtiy is still very bad. they
> > say the sound is hacked into chucks .., no constant sending. Silence
> > detection is disabled.
>
> Do they have a good jitter buffer?

I guess so, as all other clients (even the old TA1100 i did mention b4) wor=
k=20
very well ..
GM's jitter buffer is set to :
minimal: 20
maximal: 500

GSM Frames/Packet: 5
G.711 Frames/Packet: 30

Any way i could get more info about this ? tcpdump ?

Also, this happens in local net, with nearly no traffic, everything switche=
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ping time to the gateway 0,3 ms ...=20

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           Michael
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Le ven 06/12/2002 à 12:02, Michael Glauche a écrit :

> I guess so, as all other clients (even the old TA1100 i did mention b4) work 
> very well ..
> GM's jitter buffer is set to :
> minimal: 20
> maximal: 500
> 
> GSM Frames/Packet: 5
> G.711 Frames/Packet: 30
> 
> Any way i could get more info about this ? tcpdump ?
> 

I don't think it would help. Can you try with ohphone to see if it is
GnomeMeeting specific or OpenH323 specific?

> Also, this happens in local net, with nearly no traffic, everything switched, 
> ping time to the gateway 0,3 ms ... 
> 

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Other info you could provide is:
- is the sound quality bad too when you are not using the gateway and
directly connecting to another client? If the sound quality is bad only
when you are using the gateway, then it must be due to an
incompatibility of the gateway with GM/OpenH323. In that case I could
ask for advice to Equivalence.

- are you sure it is not simply a question of recording volume?


> 
> I don't think it would help. Can you try with ohphone to see if it is
> GnomeMeeting specific or OpenH323 specific?
>  
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Am Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 14:35 schrieb Damien Sandras:
> Other info you could provide is:
> - is the sound quality bad too when you are not using the gateway and
> directly connecting to another client? If the sound quality is bad only
> when you are using the gateway, then it must be due to an
> incompatibility of the gateway with GM/OpenH323. In that case I could
> ask for advice to Equivalence.

did wrote so in original email :P gm to local client is very good, with 1/2 
sec lag.

> - are you sure it is not simply a question of recording volume?

yes. that would be distortion, not hacked voice ..


> > I don't think it would help. Can you try with ohphone to see if it is
> > GnomeMeeting specific or OpenH323 specific?

I'll try later ...

regards,
       Michael


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Roger,

Eureka! It finally works! This one line hack did the trick.

Thanks for all of your help. Now I just need a camera and to try to
remember to re-apply the patch when openh323 is updated!

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
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> From: "Roger Hardiman" <roger@telepresence.dmem.strath.ac.uk>
> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 08:33:46 -0000
> 
> Hi
> 
> > I built both from the ports. (Of course, that is from sources.) I did
> > not install the packages.
> 
> Great.
> 
> oh, just a quick question. Do you have ESD or ARTS running - these are the
> sound daemons in
> gnome and kde and interfere with recording (and playback)
> 
> Now, for the patch
> Ok. What you need to do is recompile pwlib and then ohphone and gnomemeeting
> with a small change
> 
> lets do this...
> 1) cd /usr/ports/net/gnomemeeting
> 2) make clean
> 3) cd /usr/orts/net/ohphone
> 4) make clean
> 5) cd /usr/ports/net/openh323
> 6) make clean
> 7) make patch
> (this patches the source, but does not compile it)
> 8) edit the file work/pwlib/src/ptlib/unix/oss.cxx
> 9) look for the function (the method)
>   BOOL PSoundChannel::Read(...) {
> 
> In this code is a like this
>   if (lastReadCount != len)
> 
> 10) Now add the hack.
> Add a new line of code immediatly before the if (lastReadCount != len) line
> and put
>    lastReadCount = len;
> 
> 11) compile the openh323 port
> 12) compile the ohphone port
> 13) compile the gnomemeeting port
> 
> 
> 
> Roger
> 
> 

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Ok, Damien

I followed your advice and went for the gnomemeeting-0.94.2.tar.gz at 
0.94.2... dir
but still no success...
First  I have to state that I already experimented version 0.94.1 from
 gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386.rpm but I just wanted to upgrade and see the 
changes ...
I'm using Linux version 2.4.19 (root@peterpan) (gcc version 3.2 20020903 
(Red Hat Linux 8.0 3.2-7)),
openh323-1.9.10-4 and pwlib-1.3.11-1.

I tried the  ./configure from gnomemeeting-0.94.2 dir and it reported 
some missing libs and
probably pkgconfig not being installed .I checked and the libs where 
there and pkgconfig was not,
so I downloaded and decompressed pkgconfig-0.14.0.tar.gz and run 
./configure from it's dir .
I noticed a few "...no  " from the output and checked it out :
checking for working aclocal-1.4... missing
checking for working autoconf... missing
checking for working automake-1.4... missing
checking for working autoheader... missing
checking for working makeinfo... missing

So, I installed autoconf-2.53-8 and automake-1.6.3-1 from the rpm's in 
the distro cd's
( I didn't find rpm's for the others ) and run config again .
Here is the same part afterwords :

checking for working aclocal-1.4... missing
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake-1.4... missing
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... missing
 
( I realize it looks for automake-1.4... and I installed 1.6.3 ... )

I think this is why, after configure, make and make install the only .pc 
files
I have in the system is gnome-mime-data-2.0.pc at /usr/lib/pkgconfig and 
therefore
configuring  gnomemeeting isn't working .
Here's the last part of the output :

checking for pkg-config... /usr/local/bin/pkg-config
checking for libgnomeui-2.0 >= 1.112.0 linc >= 0.5.0 libbonobo-2.0 >= 
2.0.0 esound >= 0.2.28... Pack      age libgnomeui-2.0 was not found in 
the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libgnomeui-2.0.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'libgnomeui-2.0' found

configure: error: Library requirements (libgnomeui-2.0 >= 1.112.0 linc 
 >= 0.5.0 libbonobo-2.0 >= 2.0      .0 esound >= 0.2.28) not met; 
consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your 
li      braries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.

How would I adjust the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable and would 
that solve the problem?
The mentioned libraries are all installed from the distro rpm's in the 
/usr/lib dir ...

I would appreciate a little help .

Thanks .

P.S. : If you need the full output from configuring pkgconfig let me 
know and I'll post it
right away .


Damien Sandras wrote:

>Hello,
>
>if you are new to Linux, perhaps it is not a good idea to try to compile
>gnomemeeting from CVS, you will also need to take latest stable versions
>of openh323 and pwlib on openh323.org/bin
>
>If you still want to do it, autogen.sh behaves exactly the same as
>configure, just run it like you would run configure.
>
>Le ven 06/12/2002 à 01:07, João Pedro a écrit :
>  
>
>>This is probably a stupid question but comes from someone that knows 
>>little about Linux
>>but wants to know a little more ...
>>
>>The gnomemeeting-latest and gnomemeeting-2002-12-... files under 
>>http://www.gnomemeeting.org/admin/downloads/latest/snapshots/ don't have 
>>the
>>configure file .How are they installed?
>>
>>Tank you .
>>
>>J.Pedro
>>
>>_______________________________________________
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>>GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
>>http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
>>    
>>
>
>
>  
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On Friday 06 December 2002 00:29, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Le ven 06/12/2002 à 01:28, Rob Tow a écrit :
> > I just installed Gnomemeeting on SuSE 8.1 - It seems to connect to
> > directory, but I can't see any listings of other people - it just says I
> > have to register - but I thought the set-up tool registered me?
>
> You have to fill in your details in the configuration assistant when
> GnomeMeeting starts.
>
> Another way to do it is to fill in your Details in Personal Data in the
> preferences, then to go in the Directories section and to "Enable
> Registering" below the text entry where ils.seconix.com is displayed.

I have done both of the above, and it still does not work.

Do I need to fill in the gatekeeper ID? Right now it is on automatic discover 
- and there is an error message on start-up that says "no gatekeeper found".

I do get the message in the history log "Successfully registerd to ILS 
directory ilsseconix.com, port 389"


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Le ven 06/12/2002 à 16:35, João Pedro a écrit :
> Ok, Damien
> 
> I followed your advice and went for the gnomemeeting-0.94.2.tar.gz at 
> 0.94.2... dir
> but still no success...

I think you are not in the right directory.
You should use binary packages from the download section on the website.
Choose "Download" on the left.


> First  I have to state that I already experimented version 0.94.1 from
>  gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386.rpm but I just wanted to upgrade and see the 
> changes ...
> I'm using Linux version 2.4.19 (root@peterpan) (gcc version 3.2 20020903 
> (Red Hat Linux 8.0 3.2-7)),
> openh323-1.9.10-4 and pwlib-1.3.11-1.
> 
> I tried the  ./configure from gnomemeeting-0.94.2 dir and it reported 
> some missing libs and


Don't use 0.94.2, it never existed really, it was there by mistake.
Use either 0.94.1 stable, or CVS, ie the nightly snapshot.


> checking for pkg-config... /usr/local/bin/pkg-config
> checking for libgnomeui-2.0 >= 1.112.0 linc >= 0.5.0 libbonobo-2.0 >= 
> 2.0.0 esound >= 0.2.28... Pack      age libgnomeui-2.0 was not found in 
> the pkg-config search path.
> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libgnomeui-2.0.pc'
> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
> No package 'libgnomeui-2.0' found
> 
> configure: error: Library requirements (libgnomeui-2.0 >= 1.112.0 linc 
>  >= 0.5.0 libbonobo-2.0 >= 2.0      .0 esound >= 0.2.28) not met; 
> consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your 
> li      braries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
> 
> How would I adjust the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable and would 
> that solve the problem?


No it means that the mentionned libraries are not installed.

> The mentioned libraries are all installed from the distro rpm's in the 
> /usr/lib dir ...
> 


You probably installed the libs in binary form, but not the devel rpms.
You also need the devel rpms to be able to compile.

If you have redhat 8.0, a RPM of the nightly snapshot is available on
request on irc.gnome.org, #gnomemeeting.


> I would appreciate a little help .
> 
> Thanks .
> 
> P.S. : If you need the full output from configuring pkgconfig let me 
> know and I'll post it
> right away .
> 
> 
> Damien Sandras wrote:
> 
> >Hello,
> >
> >if you are new to Linux, perhaps it is not a good idea to try to compile
> >gnomemeeting from CVS, you will also need to take latest stable versions
> >of openh323 and pwlib on openh323.org/bin
> >
> >If you still want to do it, autogen.sh behaves exactly the same as
> >configure, just run it like you would run configure.
> >
> >Le ven 06/12/2002 à 01:07, João Pedro a écrit :
> >  
> >
> >>This is probably a stupid question but comes from someone that knows 
> >>little about Linux
> >>but wants to know a little more ...
> >>
> >>The gnomemeeting-latest and gnomemeeting-2002-12-... files under 
> >>http://www.gnomemeeting.org/admin/downloads/latest/snapshots/ don't have 
> >>the
> >>configure file .How are they installed?
> >>
> >>Tank you .
> >>
> >>J.Pedro
> >>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> >>GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> >>http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> 
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Le ven 06/12/2002 à 17:57, Rob Tow a écrit :

> 
> I have done both of the above, and it still does not work.
> 

Try to upgrade GnomeMeeting and see if it fixes the problem.
I think Suse 8.1 is still shipping with an antic GnomeMeeting version.

> Do I need to fill in the gatekeeper ID? Right now it is on automatic discover 
> - and there is an error message on start-up that says "no gatekeeper found".
> 

No need to fill in Gatekeeper if you don't have a H.323 Gatekeeper on
your LAN.

> I do get the message in the history log "Successfully registerd to ILS 
> directory ilsseconix.com, port 389"
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Hi,
When I start "gnomemeeting", connnected on internet,
the first image appears and all is stalled ,  I cannot stop
gnomemeeting ... only by kill -9 n=B0 ps !
If I open Gnomemeeting, internet disconnected, all the windows open
normally.
quid ?
thanks
antoine

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Hi,
> When I start "gnomemeeting", connnected on internet,
> the first image appears and all is stalled ,  I cannot stop
> gnomemeeting ... only by kill -9 n=B0 ps !
> If I open Gnomemeeting, internet disconnected, all the windows open
> normally.
> quid ?
> thanks
> antoine
-----------------------------------------
and now :
-----
(gnomemeeting:2029): Gtk-CRITICAL **: file ../../gtk/gtktextbuffer.c: lin=
e 476=20
(gtk_text_buffer_emit_insert): assertion `g_utf8_validate (text, len, NUL=
L)'=20
failed
------------------
when i send a message ...

thanks

antoine



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Le ven 06/12/2002 à 18:41, antoine a écrit :
> Hi,
> When I start "gnomemeeting", connnected on internet,
> the first image appears and all is stalled ,  I cannot stop
> gnomemeeting ... only by kill -9 n° ps !
> If I open Gnomemeeting, internet disconnected, all the windows open
> normally.
> quid ?
> thanks
> antoine
> _______________________________________________
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> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
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I deleted Gnomemeeting, and re-installed it from the web site. Several 
libraries needed to be (re)installed, too (this was for SuSE 8.1). Now it 
works.

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Hello all,

I've just compiled successfully the Quicknet linux driver for for the
PHONEJACK-PCI card (ixj.o and phonedev.o).

I've installed the Gnomemeeting CVS (nightly snapshot, v0.95) from packages in
.deb format. Thank you very much for giving .deb packages for Debian
users like me.

My question is how to configure the Quicknet card on Gnomemeeting Menu ?
Here is what I did:

  - go to "Edit > Preferences" to get the GM menu configuration popup,
  - go to "Audio codecs", disable all codecs proposed in list,
  
  - get down to "Device > Audio",
  - in the section "Quicknet Device", I enable "* Use the Quicknet Device"

So, 
  - is it normal that, in the section "Audio Devices",

       Audio Player is still pointed to /dev/dsp , and
     Audio Recorder is still pointed to /dev/dsp
 
  - another question, where should I define the codec G.723.1 which is
    used for the Quicknet card ? If it's in the codecs sections, I don't
    find it. I know that all codecs are built directly onto the
    Quicknet card.


Thank you very much for your helps,

Truong

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Le sam 07/12/2002 à 19:24, Truong a écrit :
> Hello all,
> 
> I've just compiled successfully the Quicknet linux driver for for the
> PHONEJACK-PCI card (ixj.o and phonedev.o).
> 
> I've installed the Gnomemeeting CVS (nightly snapshot, v0.95) from packages in
> .deb format. Thank you very much for giving .deb packages for Debian
> users like me.
> 
> My question is how to configure the Quicknet card on Gnomemeeting Menu ?
> Here is what I did:
> 
>   - go to "Edit > Preferences" to get the GM menu configuration popup,
>   - go to "Audio codecs", disable all codecs proposed in list,
>   
>   - get down to "Device > Audio",
>   - in the section "Quicknet Device", I enable "* Use the Quicknet Device"
> 
> So, 
>   - is it normal that, in the section "Audio Devices",
> 
>        Audio Player is still pointed to /dev/dsp , and
>      Audio Recorder is still pointed to /dev/dsp

Yes, a Quicknet device is something different. Audio Player and Audio
Recorder are Soundcard related.

>  
>   - another question, where should I define the codec G.723.1 which is
>     used for the Quicknet card ? If it's in the codecs sections, I don't
>     find it. I know that all codecs are built directly onto the
>     Quicknet card.

It is automatic, when you are using a Quicknet card, the code G.723.1 is
implicitely chosen.

> 
> 
> Thank you very much for your helps,
> 
> Truong
> 
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% *** Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> wrote: ***

% > So, 
% >   - is it normal that, in the section "Audio Devices",
% > 
% >        Audio Player is still pointed to /dev/dsp , and
% >      Audio Recorder is still pointed to /dev/dsp
% 
% Yes, a Quicknet device is something different. Audio Player and Audio
% Recorder are Soundcard related.
% 
% >  
% >   - another question, where should I define the codec G.723.1 which is
% >     used for the Quicknet card ? If it's in the codecs sections, I don't
% >     find it. I know that all codecs are built directly onto the
% >     Quicknet card.
% 
% It is automatic, when you are using a Quicknet card, the code G.723.1 is
% implicitely chosen.
% 

Ok, no need to configure the codecs for Quicknet cards.

As in a mail on the list relied to subject concerning the codecs for
Quicknet, you said about G.723.1 choosen for Quicknet card. I thought I
should define it somewhere from the GM menu. That was why my questions
in the last mail.

Thanks again,

Truong

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Yeah! Peace and love!=20
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English translation here after:

Ce n'est pas chicaner. Tu poses une question en français, donc seuls les
utilisateurs francophones de la mailing list (quelque pourcents) sont
donc à même de t'aider.
En posant la question en anglais, tu t'exposes à plus de chance d'avoir
une réponse. A toi de voir.

Quand je vais à l'étranger, faire une conférence par exemple, je
m'adapte, je ne fais pas la conférence en français dans un pays où
personne ne parle le français. C'est pareil ici sur la mailing list.

Pour terminer, tu ne donnes aucune info sur ton problème, il y a fort à
parier que personne ne pourra donc t'aider. Débugger un problème pas par
une description précise et détaille de ce qui ne fonctionne pas de ce
que tu fais pour y arriver, dans une langue comprise par ceux qui sont
susceptibles de t'aider.

J'ignorerai personellement les messages suivants en français par respect
pour les gens qui ne comprennent pas cette langue et sont inscrits ici.
--
Translation :

You are asking a question in french, so only french users on the mailing
list (only a few percent) could help you. By asking your question in
englis, you would increase the change for your problem to be solved. It
is up to you to see what you prefer.

Moreover, you are not giving any useful information about your problem,
nobody will be able to help. Debugging and solving a problem begins by a
precise description of the problem itself, in a language understood by
people you are requesting help from.

I will personally ignore the following messages written in french by
respect for people who don't understand this language and are subscribed
to this mailing list.
--

Le lun 09/12/2002 à 15:48, Patrick a écrit :
> Yeah! Peace and love! 
> It was a very old ideas for beatniks in old sixties!
> Since we have a monster whose name is Europe! It seems that it will
> be, today, (perhaps?) to speak french, italian or spanish and so on!
> Et pourtant, j'aime "Beaucoup de bruit pour rien...",  Verdi,
> Frederico Garcia Lorca, et les primitifs Flamants! Quelle richesse ce
> pays! Et maintenat nous avons Linux pour notre plus grand plaisir à
> tous!!! Pas beau cela?  (A redmond on n'aime pas du tout! Dommage!)
>  
> But, when i see the quality of gomemeeting and linux, the question to
> Damien Sandras, and the analysis,  i think that 
> qu'il est vraiment dommage de chicaner car nous avons là l'avenir...
>  
> En attendant, chez moi, Gnomemeeting ne marche toujours pas  malgré
> une etude approfondie de la FAQ, de la config... Etc.
> un telnet me permet de voir qu'il y a un serveur au bout. Par contre,
> gnomemeeting ne me permet pas de me logger. Je suis sous ADSL par
> free. Je parierais que la cause est là. Bizarre cependant, car
> gnomeicu fonctionne tres bien.
> Les premieres versions de gnomemeeting marchaient avec modem classique
> (56k) sous mandrake 8.2
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Quant à Beyrouth, les libanais sont des gens attachants, de caractère,
> ouverts, acceuillants et sympa! Même au pire de leur embêtements, il y
> a vingt ans! C'est cela quand on est fils d'une très
> vieille civilisation. Et en plus ils parlent français!
>  
>  
>  
>         ----- Original Message ----- 
>         From: Hdebaillenx@aol.com
>         To: gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org
>         Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:21 AM
>         Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: gnomemeeting and 0.85
>         version
>         
>         Bonjour la France 
>         
>         C'est clair,  sa rigole pas !!! 
>         C vrai que parler langue en Belgique est plus dangereux que de
>         jouer de la AK47 a Beyrouth !!! 
>         
>         peace and love ? 
>         
>         s@lutations numériques 
>         
>         Hervé 
>         
>         http://membres.lycos.fr/hervedebaillenx/index.htm
>         Tel/Fax        :   01 39 71 72 94 
>         NetMeeting  :   ils.seconix.com 
-- 
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v_/_	
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Le Lundi 9 D=E9cembre 2002 14:48, Patrick a =E9crit :
> Yeah! Peace and love!
> En attendant, chez moi, Gnomemeeting ne marche toujours pas  malgr=E9 u=
ne
> etude approfondie de la FAQ, de la config... Etc. un telnet me permet d=
e
> voir qu'il y a un serveur au bout. Par contre, gnomemeeting ne me perme=
t
> pas de me logger. Je suis sous ADSL par free. Je parierais que la cause=
 est
> l=E0. Bizarre cependant, car gnomeicu fonctionne tres bien. Les premier=
es
> versions de gnomemeeting marchaient avec modem classique (56k) sous
> mandrake 8.2
---------------------
so, answer in english ... :-)
only the versions >=3D to 0.93 works good with gnomemeeting !
so, which one do you use ?
if < to 0.93, update it.
I had + - similar problems and with 0.95, it's ok and a configuration dir=
ect=20
in line with the master Damien Sandras, who helped me very well !

I add :
in the menu "preferences", don't write characters with accents like : =E9=
, =E0 , =E8=20
=2E.. avoid it, because it makes gnomeeting very instable :
is it a bug, is it posible to correct it ?
If I write my name "Wach=E9" : does not work=20
but "Wache" =3D ok .
gnomemeeting is for english language, but not international, does not lik=
e the=20
accents  :-)
bye
antoine



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Le mar 10/12/2002 à 15:36, antoine a écrit :

> If I write my name "Waché" : does not work 
> but "Wache" = ok .

It was corrected in 0.94.1, only 0.93.1 had that bug:
http://www.gnomemeeting.org/downloads/snapshots/gm-cyr.png

Look to that screenshot to see that internationalisation works very well
:)


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Le Mardi 10 D=E9cembre 2002 17:20, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> Le mar 10/12/2002 =E0 15:36, antoine a =E9crit :
> > If I write my name "Wach=E9" : does not work
> > but "Wache" =3D ok .
> It was corrected in 0.94.1, only 0.93.1 had that bug:
> http://www.gnomemeeting.org/downloads/snapshots/gm-cyr.png
> Look to that screenshot to see that internationalisation works very wel=
l
-------------
sorry !
thanks Damien for this correction .
so I have the 0.93 ...
I have to update too  :-)
antoine Wach=E9


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Hi,
I want to update gnomemeeting 0.93 --> 0.95
i'm under MDK 9.0. and it's the first time I use this distribution.
If I use the classical .RPM files I receive those messages :
-----
rpm -Uvh gnomemeeting ....... .rpm
error: failed dependencies:
        openh323 >=3D 1.9.10-4 is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        pwlib >=3D 1.3.11 is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libcrypto.so.2   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libssl.so.2   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
[root@aw local]# rpm -Uvh openh323-1.9.10-4.i386.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
        pwlib >=3D 1.3.11 is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
        libcrypto.so.2   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
        libssl.so.2   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
[root@aw local]# rpm -Uvh pwlib-1.3.11-1.i386.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
        libcrypto.so.2   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libssl.so.2   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
-------------------------------------------
So I want to use "urpmi" and I don't know how to do that ?

Thanks a lot !

antoine Wach=E9

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Hi !

Am Dienstag, 10. Dezember 2002 21:07 schrieb antoine:

> So I want to use "urpmi" and I don't know how to do that ?

put all three rpms into one seperate directory and do a 'urpmi *' ; that =
way=20
all rpms from there plus the other needed rpms are installed.

Matthias Marks (aka matti on #gnomemeeting, irc.gnome.org)


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> So I want to use "urpmi" and I don't know how to do that ?
>antoine Wach=E9
>----------------------
> put all three rpms into one seperate directory and do a 'urpmi *' ; tha=
t
> way all rpms from there plus the other needed rpms are installed.
> Matthias Marks (aka matti on #gnomemeeting, irc.gnome.org)
---------------------------------------
I do what you told me and :
[root@aw local]# urpmi *.rpm
installation de ./openh323-1.9.10-4.i386.rpm ./gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386=
=2Erpm=20
=2E/pwlib-1.3.11-1.i386.rpm
L'installation a =E9chou=E9 :=20
        libcrypto.so.2 est n=E9cessaire =E0 openh323-1.9.10-4
        libssl.so.2 est n=E9cessaire =E0 openh323-1.9.10-4
        libcrypto.so.2 est n=E9cessaire =E0 gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libssl.so.2 est n=E9cessaire =E0 gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libcrypto.so.2 est n=E9cessaire =E0 pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3) est n=E9cessaire =E0 pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libssl.so.2 est n=E9cessaire =E0 pwlib-1.3.11-1
----------------
so exactly the same message than with "rpm -Uvh ...." :-)

any idea for another solution

thanks

antoine


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Hi again !

Am Dienstag, 10. Dezember 2002 21:31 schrieb antoine:

> installation de ./openh323-1.9.10-4.i386.rpm
> ./gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386.rpm ./pwlib-1.3.11-1.i386.rpm

It seems you downloaded the rpms for redhat, not for mandrake (mandrake r=
pms=20
have a "mdk" in the name. Here's the direct link to the correct rpms:

http://www.gnomemeeting.org/downloads/0.94.1/mandrake/


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Le Mardi 10 D=E9cembre 2002 21:46, Matthias Marks a =E9crit :
> It seems you downloaded the rpms for redhat, not for mandrake (mandrake
> rpms have a "mdk" in the name. Here's the direct link to the correct rp=
ms:
> http://www.gnomemeeting.org/downloads/0.94.1/mandrake/
> Matthias Marks
--------------
hi,
it works for the install.
-------
but now , with the GM 0.94, I have problems with the sound card :
I receive a message : "the audio is already in use, audio will be stopped=
".
but it's difficult on seconix 's users to find somebody free to make a te=
st .
thanks
antoine



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Le mer 11/12/2002 =E0 09:30, antoine a =E9crit :
> Le Mardi 10 D=E9cembre 2002 21:46, Matthias Marks a =E9crit :
> > It seems you downloaded the rpms for redhat, not for mandrake (mandrake
> > rpms have a "mdk" in the name. Here's the direct link to the correct rp=
ms:
> > http://www.gnomemeeting.org/downloads/0.94.1/mandrake/
> > Matthias Marks
> --------------
> hi,
hi antoine,

> it works for the install.
nice,

> -------
> but now , with the GM 0.94, I have problems with the sound card :
> I receive a message : "the audio is already in use, audio will be stopped=
".
are you using KDE (and artsd)?
if yes you should try to pause or stop the artsd sound daemon before
launching GnomeMeeting.

> but it's difficult on seconix 's users to find somebody free to make a te=
st.
I think you should find someone free for a test more easily on
irc.gimpnet.org #gnomemeeting.
> thanks
> antoine

hope this help.

Fabrice

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> are you using KDE (and artsd)?
> if yes you should try to pause or stop the artsd sound daemon before
> launching GnomeMeeting.
> Fabrice
------------------------
i'm on KDE.
artsd : I don't know ...
How to know that ?
I saw in the "daemons" services
no "artsd" are here !
but "atrsd" seems loaded at boot.
so how to pause or stop it
If I want to make a record sound with my micro,
the recording has a very bad quality ...
it worked quite well before with GM 0.93 ...
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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 11:13, antoine a écrit :

> i'm on KDE.
> artsd : I don't know ...
> How to know that ?

ps ax for example

> I saw in the "daemons" services
> no "artsd" are here !

artsd is not a standard daemon

> but "atrsd" seems loaded at boot.
> so how to pause or stop it
> If I want to make a record sound with my micro,
> the recording has a very bad quality ...
> it worked quite well before with GM 0.93 ...

You probably changed something else. Installing GnomeMeeting doesn't
influence the recording of the micro with other programs, Linux is not
Windows (fortunately) ;)

> thanks
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hi,

-I see in my processus (ps aux) that 6 gnomemeeting are
open. is it normal ?
----
-when I cut a connection after a too long wait, I cannot connect on a use=
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again.
I have to close the GM window and I have to "killall gnomemeeting" becaus=
e the
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the same above than with the 0.94 !

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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 14:27, antoine a écrit :
> -I see in my processus (ps aux) that 6 gnomemeeting are
> open. is it normal ?

Yes, that's what is call a thread. You have 6 threads.

> ----
> -when I cut a connection after a too long wait, I cannot connect on a user 
> again.
> I have to close the GM window and I have to "killall gnomemeeting" because the
> processus are always open ...

That is not normal, I don't understand what you are doing.

> -----
> -I decided to come back to the .093 version, but the difficulties are 
> the same above than with the 0.94 !
> 

That is not normal either. You had a perfectly working configuration
this WE after we helped you during a long time. You probably changed
things in your configuration since that moment.

> thanks
> 
> antoine
> 

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Hi, I was quite rudely called back after submitting a gnomemeeting
enhancement proposal to the bugzilla with the enhancement flag set. The
person said I should send them here. Just to check, is this correct?

Thanks,
Robert

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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 15:42, Robert Schmidt a écrit :
> Hi, I was quite rudely called back after submitting a gnomemeeting
> enhancement proposal to the bugzilla with the enhancement flag set. The
> person said I should send them here. Just to check, is this correct?
> 

Hello Robert,

Actually I think that you can request enhancements on bugzilla, but we
prefer to discuss those enhancements on the gnomemeeting-devel-list that
has been created on this purpose and keep bugzilla for bugs.

Here is how things should be working:
- gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org : User problems
- gnomemeeting-devel-list@gnome.org : Development discussions, including
features enhancements, and so on
- bugzilla : bug reports

However, Bugzilla permits to report enhancements and several people are
reporting them on Bugzilla. We didn't make it clear yet on website how
we would like things to work. Our apologies about that.
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Hi !

Am Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2002 15:42 schrieb Robert Schmidt:
> Hi, I was quite rudely called back after submitting a gnomemeeting
> enhancement proposal to the bugzilla with the enhancement flag set. The
> person said I should send them here. Just to check, is this correct?

Yes, this is the right place :-)

Matthias Marks (aka matti on #gnomemeeting, irc.gnome.org)

P.S. My callback would have been a bit more polite ;-), but he's right th=
at it=20
isn't a bug...

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We prefer to discuss new features in one of the mailing list (developers
list is better in any case).
I've read your bug report, but it's not very clear to me want to really
mean.
Could you please elaborate?

PD: All ideas are welcome, please don't mind rudeness, nobody was rude
to you on purpose... (it's just that we are not very good english
speakers ;) )

El mi=C3=A9, 11-12-2002 a las 15:42, Robert Schmidt escribi=C3=B3:
> Hi, I was quite rudely called back after submitting a gnomemeeting
> enhancement proposal to the bugzilla with the enhancement flag set. The
> person said I should send them here. Just to check, is this correct?
>=20
> Thanks,
> Robert
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list

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Hi,

	I know GnomeMeeting DOESN'T support Remote Desktop sharing like Netmeeting
does, but are there any plans to or does anyone know of any Linux clients
that DO?

Thanks in advance.



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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 16:07, Jean-Claude Gervais a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> 	I know GnomeMeeting DOESN'T support Remote Desktop sharing like Netmeeting
> does, but are there any plans to or does anyone know of any Linux clients
> that DO?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 

Currently there are no plans as we prefer to concentrate in pure
videoconferencing and VOIP, but you can use VNC (google) or RDESKTOP
(http://www.rdesktop.org)


-- 
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hi,

I think my difficulties, probabely, come from
my modem RTC and not ADSL connection !
because it's seem working better late in the night ...
or when people disconnect their video
(i don't have webcam)

I don't see bad configurations in my gnomemeeting ...
excepted maybe,  sound =3D I cannot record

thanks for people who help me on the GM chat.
-----------------------------------
I try with "netmeeting" of window$ , but netmeeting answers :
no connection possible with netmeeting on :  " ils.seconix.com "

quid ?

antoine

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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 16:17, antoine a écrit :
> hi,
> 
> I think my difficulties, probabely, come from
> my modem RTC and not ADSL connection !
> because it's seem working better late in the night ...
> or when people disconnect their video
> (i don't have webcam)

That could be possible...

> 
> I don't see bad configurations in my gnomemeeting ...
> excepted maybe,  sound = I cannot record
> 

Check your volumes levels with the Gnome or KDE mixers.


> thanks for people who help me on the GM chat.
> -----------------------------------
> I try with "netmeeting" of window$ , but netmeeting answers :
> no connection possible with netmeeting on :  " ils.seconix.com "
> 

There are currently 10 Netmeeting connected to ils.seconix.com => that
should be possible. Anyway, that is more a question for Microsoft
technical support ;)

> quid ?
> 
> antoine
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> Check your volumes levels with the Gnome or KDE mixers.
ok !
-----------------------------------
> > I try with "netmeeting" of window$ , but netmeeting answers :
> > no connection possible with netmeeting on :  " ils.seconix.com "
---------------
> There are currently 10 Netmeeting connected to ils.seconix.com =3D> tha=
t
> should be possible. Anyway, that is more a question for Microsoft
> technical support ;)
----------
yes but strange that some can do that and not me,
but no matter in fact ... i'm not on win$ but it was for a try ..
to compare and understands my difficulties on GM
using netmeeting ...
antoine

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Thanks for the speedy reply, Damien,

The only problem is that RDesktop.org's client software only supports
Windows Terminal Services / Windows XP RDP.
I need something that supports NetMeeting's Remote Desktop sharing, and
unless I am mistaken, they are two different things.
Um, what IS the protocol NetMeeting uses for its Remote Desktop Sharing?

Thanks

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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 16:07, Jean-Claude Gervais a écrit :
> Hi,
>
>       I know GnomeMeeting DOESN'T support Remote Desktop sharing like
Netmeeting
> does, but are there any plans to or does anyone know of any Linux clients
> that DO?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

Currently there are no plans as we prefer to concentrate in pure
videoconferencing and VOIP, but you can use VNC (google) or RDESKTOP
(http://www.rdesktop.org)


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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 16:30, Jean-Claude Gervais a écrit :
> Thanks for the speedy reply, Damien,
> 
> The only problem is that RDesktop.org's client software only supports
> Windows Terminal Services / Windows XP RDP.
> I need something that supports NetMeeting's Remote Desktop sharing, and
> unless I am mistaken, they are two different things.
> Um, what IS the protocol NetMeeting uses for its Remote Desktop Sharing?
> 

A subpart of T.120.

I know no implementation of it on Linux, I think that would be too hard.
But if you want a non-netmeeting desktop sharing software, there is VNC
which works well.

I don't think that GM will one day do remote desktop sharing: "Do one
thing, but do it well", and we want to concentrate on different things
(SIP, MCU, answering machines, ...)

> Thanks
> 

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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 16:19, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> There are currently 10 Netmeeting connected to ils.seconix.com => that
> should be possible. Anyway, that is more a question for Microsoft
> technical support ;)

My father finds it difficult to register on seconix sometimes ; his
solution, of course, is to reboot...

Lately, when he tried to connect to me, nm told him I wasn't able to
communicate...

This is just like my ex-provider, of which 99,99% of the staff thought
internet was a M$ invention, and I shouldn't even think to connect with
a linux...

Some things just put me in bad mood...

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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hi all,
just got gnomemeeting and installed it, but I havn't been able to get it =
to=20
work. I keep getting the message "GnomeMeeting got 0 for the GConf key=20
'/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test_age", but 12 was expected"

I tried runing gnomemeeting-config-tool but it didnt help. Finally I trie=
d
> gconftool-2 --get "/apps/gnomemeeting/general/gconf_test"=20
and
> gconftool-2 --get "/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test"=20
but got "No value set for '/apps/gnomemeeting..'=20

I am running SuSE 8.0 with KDE3 and didn't have any of the gnome libs bef=
ore,=20
but now I downloaded all the required libs as said in the README from you=
r=20
downloads page (rpms are from SuSE's ftp server) and got the gnomemeeting=
 rpm=20
for SuSE from your download page.
This might be something very simple (hopefully) but since I am no gnome u=
ser I=20
really don't know where to start looking for.
I tried=20
>gconftool-2 --get-default-source
and got
>xml::/etc/opt/gnome2/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults
I then looked into that directory and there are two dirs: "apps" and=20
"schemas".  There is a gnomemeeting directory in each of them, each=20
containing a bunch of subdirs like "audio_codecs", "audio_settings", ...=20
"devices",...., "ldap", "personal_data", "view"

I have zero idea of gconf and friends, so any hints as to how to solve th=
is or=20
where to find more info would be great.

thanks

luis

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Am Donnerstag, 12. Dezember 2002 01:55 schrieb Luis De la Parra Blum:
> hi all,
> just got gnomemeeting and installed it, but I havn't been able to get it to
> work. I keep getting the message "GnomeMeeting got 0 for the GConf key
> '/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test_age", but 12 was expected"
>
> I tried runing gnomemeeting-config-tool but it didnt help. Finally I tried
>
> > gconftool-2 --get "/apps/gnomemeeting/general/gconf_test"
>
> and
>
> > gconftool-2 --get "/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test"
>
> but got "No value set for '/apps/gnomemeeting..'
>
> I am running SuSE 8.0 with KDE3 and didn't have any of the gnome libs
> before, but now I downloaded all the required libs as said in the README
> from your downloads page (rpms are from SuSE's ftp server) and got the
> gnomemeeting rpm for SuSE from your download page.

Did you run the SuSEconfig scripts mentioned in the README? Also be sure you 
have installed the latest package which can be found under Downloads, test 
your installation with
$> rpm -q gnomemeeting
this should return gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3

Greetings,

Stefan

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ons 2002-12-11 klockan 15.52 skrev Damien Sandras:
> > Hi, I was quite rudely called back after submitting a gnomemeeting
> > enhancement proposal to the bugzilla with the enhancement flag set. The
> > person said I should send them here. Just to check, is this correct?
> 
> Hello Robert,
> 
> Actually I think that you can request enhancements on bugzilla, but we
> prefer to discuss those enhancements on the gnomemeeting-devel-list that
> has been created on this purpose and keep bugzilla for bugs.

In my opinion, it's useful to have both. Bugzilla is good for keeping
track of things but a bad place to have planning, a mailing list is a
good place to have planning but a bad place to track things. So only
having feature requests on the mailing list is probably bad as it isn't
easy to later find out what actually happened to it after the discussion
died -- was it implemented, will it be implemented at some point, or was
it decided it was a bad idea altogether and will never be implemented?

Thus, I suggest that both are used -- when a feature request appears on
the mailing list, make sure an entry for it is also in bugzilla, and
vice versa. Make sure that you put in a link to the bugzilla bug report
in the mailing list thread, and a link to the mailing list thread in the
bug report. Then continue to have the discussion on the mailing list.
Finally, when there is a consensus or a decision or the discussion died
out some other way, try to do a very short summary of it in the bugzilla
bug report and update the status of the bug report accordingly.

Also, one advantage of also having feature requests also in bugzilla is
that it's easy to point to existing resolutions for some common
requests. If someone asks on the mailing list about why there isn't a
desktop sharing feature for the second time, it's easy to point to the
bugzilla bug report where the decision is summarized (it's usually
easier to search bugzilla than mailing list archives), and avoid having
to have the entire discussion and summarize once again on the mailing
list. If someone put's a "why isn't there a remote desktop feature"
enhancement request in bugzilla, it's easy to make it a duplicate of the
existing bugzilla bug report about the same issue and be done with it.

So bugzilla and the development mailing lists are used complimentary.
Surely most other application teams in GNOME also believe in mailing
list developer discussions, but they also often use bugzilla to track
specific enhancement requests, even though it may be discussed
elsewhere. This is why there is a "enhancement" category to begin with
in bugzilla. :)


Christian



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Le jeu 12/12/2002 à 07:40, Christian Rose a écrit :

I pretty much agree, but if people keep on asking for something gm won't
give, shouldn't it go in the faq, and not in the bugzilla?

I tend to search the faq of a project when I lack something and/or have
a problem with it; searching for known bugs comes only after, if it ever
comes: I've only looked in gm's bugzilla when someone in #gnomemeeting
gave a link... (I prefer going to the debian bts...)

Snark on #gnomemeeting

PS: xchat has a nice feature: when you right-click on a link, you get
the choice to open it in various browsers, in a new window or a new
tab...


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tor 2002-12-12 klockan 08.55 skrev PUYDT Julien:
> I pretty much agree, but if people keep on asking for something gm won't
> give, shouldn't it go in the faq, and not in the bugzilla?

You can do both. That's the beauty of having things in Bugzilla; it's
easy to link to it. You can have a short answer in the FAQ, and also
provide a link to the relevant bugzilla bug where people can read more
about the decision if they are interested, and also see links to the
mailing list thread(s).

"Q: Are there any plans on a foo feature?
A: No. GnomeMeeting is a video conference application only and we are
not planning on extending it with the foo feature, since there are
better and specialized applications that can do that already. For more
details, see <link>bugzilla bug 123456</link>."


Christian



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Am Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 18:13 schrieb Damien Sandras:
> Le ven 06/12/2002 à 17:57, Rob Tow a écrit :
> > I have done both of the above, and it still does not work.

You have pushed the refresh button in the ILS view?

> Try to upgrade GnomeMeeting and see if it fixes the problem.
> I think Suse 8.1 is still shipping with an antic GnomeMeeting version.

8.1 includes Gnome2 and GM 0.93

Greetings,

Stefan
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On Thursday 12 December 2002 04:09, Stefan Bruens wrote:
> Did you run the SuSEconfig scripts mentioned in the README? Also be sur=
e

yes, I did.
I found it a little strange that they ran so fast though...
normally (when you install something with Yast) it takes a little longer,=
 but=20
in this case it was "running, reading, executing and finished" extremly f=
ast.=20
either the configuration needed is minimal, or something is not running a=
s it=20
should (?)

> you have installed the latest package which can be found under Download=
s,
> test your installation with
> $> rpm -q gnomemeeting
> this should return gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>
yes, gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3

any other ideas how I can check this?
I tried=20
>for i in `ls -R`
 do cat $i|grep gconf_test_age && echo "********************match FOUND i=
n"=20
$i;=20
done
in /etc/opt/gnome2/gconf, but no file seems to contain such a key.
I also tried the gnomemeeting-config-tool, and it says it has installed t=
he=20
schemas successfully, whatever that means.

luis


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I'm new to Gnomemeeting and am trialing it between various other
Gnomemeeting clients: some on the local network, some across a reasonably
good Internet connection (60ms round trip) and beyond.  In every case,
audio quality is terrible.

I am using a Quicknet card and Gnomemeeting is configured to use it.  
Loopback testing indicates that the audio is crystal clear.

People on the other end report that I sound like a chipmunk :-) (which, I
can assure you is not normally the case!)  How can I got about
troubleshooting this?  I looked at the audio codecs and all of them are
selected.  I would all to perform reasonably well, especially on the low
latency connections I am testing it with.

Any ideas?  Thanks,

Ben


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> I'm new to Gnomemeeting and am trialing it between various other
> Gnomemeeting clients: some on the local network, some across a reasonably
> good Internet connection (60ms round trip) and beyond.  In every case,
> audio quality is terrible.
>
> I am using a Quicknet card and Gnomemeeting is configured to use it.
> Loopback testing indicates that the audio is crystal clear.
>
> People on the other end report that I sound like a chipmunk :-) (which, I
> can assure you is not normally the case!)  How can I got about
> troubleshooting this?  I looked at the audio codecs and all of them are
> selected.  I would all to perform reasonably well, especially on the low
> latency connections I am testing it with.
>
> Any ideas?  Thanks,

Hi,
   i have no idea, but a similar problem, outgoing sound though a gatekeeper
with a quicknet card sound terrible, while incoming sound is quite good ..
Unfortunately i have no sollution for this yet ..

regards,
      Michael


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Hi,
 audio quality is influenced by a number of factors:

  1) sound collection device
      a microphone and headphones is best.

  2) Increase your jitter buffer size.

  3)  Select G723.1 codec.

  4) Try lowering your play/record volume a little.


Incidentally, what Quicknet card are you using?

Derek.

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On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Ben Elliston wrote:

> I'm new to Gnomemeeting and am trialing it between various other
> Gnomemeeting clients: some on the local network, some across a reasonably
> good Internet connection (60ms round trip) and beyond.  In every case,
> audio quality is terrible.
> 
> I am using a Quicknet card and Gnomemeeting is configured to use it.  
> Loopback testing indicates that the audio is crystal clear.
> 
> People on the other end report that I sound like a chipmunk :-) (which, I
> can assure you is not normally the case!)  How can I got about
> troubleshooting this?  I looked at the audio codecs and all of them are
> selected.  I would all to perform reasonably well, especially on the low
> latency connections I am testing it with.
> 
> Any ideas?  Thanks,
> 
> Ben
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Hi.

>   1) sound collection device
>       a microphone and headphones is best.

Why would I want to use a mic and headphones if I have a Quicknet card 
with echo cancellation?  Isn't that superior?

>   2) Increase your jitter buffer size.

I increased it to 200ms -- enough?

>   3)  Select G723.1 codec.

I don't have a G723.1 codec.  Perhaps I'm using a slightly older version.  
I am using 0.93.1.  Or am I doing something wrong?

> Incidentally, what Quicknet card are you using?

PhoneJACK.

Ben


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Hi,

>   1) sound collection device
>       a microphone and headphones is best.

using a normal phone ... thats the scope of quicknet card, isn't it ? ;)

>   2) Increase your jitter buffer size.

did try to play with it ...

>   3)  Select G723.1 codec.

not there ..

>   4) Try lowering your play/record volume a little.

not aviable .. ;) damian told me that maybe there will be in the next
version

> Incidentally, what Quicknet card are you using?

Internet PhoneJack PCI linux edition

regards,
        Michael


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Le ven 13/12/2002 à 02:00, Ben Elliston a écrit :

> >   3)  Select G723.1 codec.
> 
> I don't have a G723.1 codec.  Perhaps I'm using a slightly older version.  
> I am using 0.93.1.  Or am I doing something wrong?

Yes, Quicknet support is only complete in the CVS version of
GnomeMeeting.

G.723.1 is automaticall selected when you are using the Quicknet card.

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Le ven 13/12/2002 à 16:09, Michael Glauche a écrit :

> >   3)  Select G723.1 codec.
> 
> not there ..
> 

Read my previous post and check the "General History" to see if the
right codec is used. Perhaps your settings select G.711, it was a bug in
the CVS version you tried.

> >   4) Try lowering your play/record volume a little.
> 
> not aviable .. ;) damian told me that maybe there will be in the next
> version

That is implemented in current CVS.

> 
> > Incidentally, what Quicknet card are you using?
> 
> Internet PhoneJack PCI linux edition
> 

Have you tried with ohphone?

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> G.723.1 is automaticall selected when you are using the Quicknet card.

OK, that helps, thanks.

Now I am back to using a full-duplex sound card with mic and speakers.  I
have managed to work out that when speaking to a Netmeeting client, my
voice sounds slow and audio sent from the Netmeeting client sounds fast.  
They are agreeing on the uLaw codec.

Any ideas on how to proceed?

Thanks, Ben


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> > > Incidentally, what Quicknet card are you using?
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> Have you tried with ohphone?

yes, exactly the same problem there. G.723.1{hw} codec is used for sending and 
recieving, but the sending quality is bad, so i guess its an openh323 bug ..

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Using G.711 is perhaps not the best idea. Try to permit ALaw only. Or
better, install the MS-GSM codec for Netmeeting (you can find a patch on
www.gnomemeeting.org).

However, I remember that there were some problems with OpenH323 a while
ago concerning the G.711 codec. I read that you are using GM 0.93 which
is pretty old. I would suggest that you use CVS version with updated
openh323 libraries. If you are using Redhat 8 or Debian, we can provide
you updated packages.


Le ven 13/12/2002 à 12:12, Ben Elliston a écrit :
> > G.723.1 is automaticall selected when you are using the Quicknet card.
> 
> OK, that helps, thanks.
> 
> Now I am back to using a full-duplex sound card with mic and speakers.  I
> have managed to work out that when speaking to a Netmeeting client, my
> voice sounds slow and audio sent from the Netmeeting client sounds fast.  
> They are agreeing on the uLaw codec.
> 
> Any ideas on how to proceed?
> 
> Thanks, Ben
> 
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Le ven 13/12/2002 à 12:27, Michael Glauche a écrit :
> 
> yes, exactly the same problem there. G.723.1{hw} codec is used for sending and 
> recieving, but the sending quality is bad, so i guess its an openh323 bug ..

In that case I think you should mail openh323@openh323.org , they would
be interested to help to debug that quicknet problem. Using G.723.1{hw}
should always give good quality...
It is a good news for me, but I think that problem should be fixed...


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I'm back in the stuff, guys.
I do have now a much powerfull and useable FW linux box, with a dual
screen switch that let me run XWindow in a much more powerfull way.

I plugged again my philips 740k webcam.
I created again the devices, with user rafa in the group video and
audio.
But It dont function.
could anybody check my rights ?
nexus:/home/rafa# ls -lat /dev/video*
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     video          11 Dec 10 20:48 /dev/video ->
/dev/video0
crw-rw-rw-    1 root     video     81,   0 Dec 10 20:48 /dev/video0
crw-rw-rw-    1 root     video     81,   2 Dec 10 20:41 /dev/video2
crw-rw-rw-    1 root     video     81,   1 Dec 10 20:41 /dev/video1

I didn't find anymore the answer to this question in the FAQ. I remember
it was. I run a plain old woody, with no mix SID/woody right now. I'm
plannig to let gnomemeeting run SID side, in order to run a much up to
date version. So right now, I run GM 0.12.2, that seems to be very old.

Another question absolutly off topic, but I remember that there is much
Debian addicts here: How could I tell apt to get gnomemeeting in sid
package ?
I'll put the answers here if I find it meanwhile.

	Rafa aka Tristan




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Le ven 13/12/2002 à 16:53, Rafael Pinilla a écrit :
> I plugged again my philips 740k webcam.
> I created again the devices, with user rafa in the group video and
> audio.
> But It dont function.

Can you be more precise?


> I didn't find anymore the answer to this question in the FAQ. I remember
> it was. I run a plain old woody, with no mix SID/woody right now. I'm

Such things were removed from the FAQ because we decided to only provide
help about GnomeMeeting on the FAQ and not on generic Linux installation
problems. Audio and video problems are more related to your distribution
than to GnomeMeeting itself.

> plannig to let gnomemeeting run SID side, in order to run a much up to
> date version. So right now, I run GM 0.12.2, that seems to be very old.

Wow! Yes, GnomeMeeting 0.12.2 is more than one year old !

> Another question absolutly off topic, but I remember that there is much
> Debian addicts here: How could I tell apt to get gnomemeeting in sid
> package ?

Change your stable lines to unstable in /etc/apt/sources.list, apt-get
update, apt-get install gnomemeeting .

> I'll put the answers here if I find it meanwhile.
> 
> 	Rafa aka Tristan
> 
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Hi,
 Please do not use mic and speakers.

  The echo canceller in the quicknet cards is not perfect.

 You will find an improvement in quality if you use headphones.

Derek.
============
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Ben Elliston wrote:

> > G.723.1 is automaticall selected when you are using the Quicknet card.
> 
> OK, that helps, thanks.
> 
> Now I am back to using a full-duplex sound card with mic and speakers.  I
> have managed to work out that when speaking to a Netmeeting client, my
> voice sounds slow and audio sent from the Netmeeting client sounds fast.  
> They are agreeing on the uLaw codec.
> 
> Any ideas on how to proceed?
> 
> Thanks, Ben
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
> 
> 

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Ben,

 There are other emails on this list about headphones or speakers.

 In my experience, there has always been an improvement in voice quality 
 when changing from speakers to something else (headphones or handset)

==
As far as jitter buffer size, TRY a bigger value. I have no idea what your 
network latency is. I am not a crystal ball gazing psychic to know what
will work for you.
200 ms "should" be enough, but 400ms will most probably be enough.

Is there any difference in quality (apart from latency) if you switch from 
200 to 400ms?

1000ms will be enough for all but the most patholigical of networks.
TRY different values.

===

Finally, before the various experts on this list criticise the openh323 
code, remember this:
Craig and Robert use openh323 code (plus quicknet cards) to talk all the
time between Australia, England, America and New Zealand. If the code was
faulty, would they fix it? yes. I suggest the problem is elsewhere.

The real check is:
  Do you have the same quality problems if you use ohphone?

There may be a configuration issue for your machine.
Good luck on finding this: you have to battle gconf, the quicknet kernel 
module, library versions, and gnomemeeting versions.


Derek.
=======================
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Ben Elliston wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> >   1) sound collection device
> >       a microphone and headphones is best.
> 
> Why would I want to use a mic and headphones if I have a Quicknet card 
> with echo cancellation?  Isn't that superior?
> 
> >   2) Increase your jitter buffer size.
> 
> I increased it to 200ms -- enough?
> 
> >   3)  Select G723.1 codec.
> 
> I don't have a G723.1 codec.  Perhaps I'm using a slightly older version.  
> I am using 0.93.1.  Or am I doing something wrong?
> 
> > Incidentally, what Quicknet card are you using?
> 
> PhoneJACK.
> 
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hi,

I test yesterday with Jeff and Truong and others ... :
-everybody can hear me and very clearly,
-with some I can hear, but with too poor quality,
-with others I can hear but with many cuts,
-and with other I cannot hear ...

my sound card seems ok for configuration.
speakers and micro (for micro test for recording =3D ok)
I have the ATRSD processus.
if I remove ATRSD =3D same !

I use 0.93 GM on MDK 9.0

thanks

Antoine Wach=E9

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We already discussed that problem many times with you, your problem is
simple, you are using PPP.

A ppp connection is not enough to have a good quality. 

Le sam 14/12/2002 à 11:51, antoine a écrit :
> hi,
> 
> I test yesterday with Jeff and Truong and others ... :
> -everybody can hear me and very clearly,
> -with some I can hear, but with too poor quality,
> -with others I can hear but with many cuts,
> -and with other I cannot hear ...
> 
> my sound card seems ok for configuration.
> speakers and micro (for micro test for recording = ok)
> I have the ATRSD processus.
> if I remove ATRSD = same !
> 
> I use 0.93 GM on MDK 9.0
> 
> thanks
> 
> Antoine Waché
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Le sam 14/12/2002 à 13:48, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> We already discussed that problem many times with you, your problem is
> simple, you are using PPP.
> 
> A ppp connection is not enough to have a good quality. 

More precisely: a ppp connection with a simple modem is not enough. An
adsl ppp connection is enough.

You (AW, not Damien) have to understand that you need bandwith to
send/receive data. You tell us that with some you have good sound and
others a bad sound... I would say it doesn't really depend on with whom
you connect, but when, ie if you're connected at 56000 it will be better
than at 28800...

Using gnomemeeting with adsl (on both sides), you can have both
video&sound, but you can't have them both perfect (perfect sound and
50fps full quality). There is always a tradeoff.

On a lan, you can do what you want...

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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Hi Everyone:
For the last two weeks or so the server at ils.seconix.com gives me a message 
about having to register before seeing other users. However it appears that I 
AM registered. I get the "successfully regeistered to ils.seconix.com" 
message when starting gnomemeeting and another "successful logoff" message 
when quitting! (The registering is set in my preferences).
Anyone know what could be wrong?
Thanks for any help!


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Hello,

Some people have reported the same problem using old versions of
GnomeMeeting.

However we don't know what the problem can be as some of the GM testers
have confirmed that it was working even with old versions, we suggest
you to upgrade your old gnomemeeting version to a newer one (in the 0.9x
serie).


Le sam 14/12/2002 à 11:21, Will Lehman a écrit :
> Hi Everyone:
> For the last two weeks or so the server at ils.seconix.com gives me a message 
> about having to register before seeing other users. However it appears that I 
> AM registered. I get the "successfully regeistered to ils.seconix.com" 
> message when starting gnomemeeting and another "successful logoff" message 
> when quitting! (The registering is set in my preferences).
> Anyone know what could be wrong?
> Thanks for any help!
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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I am using the version 0.94.1 so I guess it must be some other problem.=20
Unfortunately, I can't think of anything specific thing I've done (firewa=
ll,=20
settings, etc) in the mean time to cause the error. I will keep fiddling =
and=20
if I figure it out I'll let the list know.
Thanks
=20
On Saturday 14 December 2002 03:26 pm, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Some people have reported the same problem using old versions of
> GnomeMeeting.
>
> However we don't know what the problem can be as some of the GM testers
> have confirmed that it was working even with old versions, we suggest
> you to upgrade your old gnomemeeting version to a newer one (in the 0.9=
x
> serie).
>
> Le sam 14/12/2002 =E0 11:21, Will Lehman a =E9crit :
> > Hi Everyone:
> > For the last two weeks or so the server at ils.seconix.com gives me a
> > message about having to register before seeing other users. However i=
t
> > appears that I AM registered. I get the "successfully regeistered to
> > ils.seconix.com" message when starting gnomemeeting and another
> > "successful logoff" message when quitting! (The registering is set in=
 my
> > preferences).
> > Anyone know what could be wrong?
> > Thanks for any help!
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list


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While trying to run gnomemeeting 0.85, I receive the following error:

gnomemeeting: relocation error: gnomemeeting: undefined symbol: 
__vt_Q29PIPSocket14InterfaceTable

Upgrading to 0.95 is not an option.  I'm open to any other suggestions.

Anne Racel



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On Saturday 14 December 2002 18:49, Anne Racel wrote:
> While trying to run gnomemeeting 0.85, I receive the following error:
>
> gnomemeeting: relocation error: gnomemeeting: undefined symbol:
> __vt_Q29PIPSocket14InterfaceTable
>
> Upgrading to 0.95 is not an option.  I'm open to any other suggestions.
>
> Anne Racel
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list

Why is upgrading not an option?

Pablo


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Le sam 14/12/2002 à 11:48, Will Lehman a écrit :
> I am using the version 0.94.1 so I guess it must be some other problem. 
> Unfortunately, I can't think of anything specific thing I've done (firewall, 
> settings, etc) in the mean time to cause the error. I will keep fiddling and 
> if I figure it out I'll let the list know.


I have checked in the logs for your email, for your firstname and for
your lastname, and nothing in the last week.

Nobody has ever had problems to register using 0.94.1 (except if you are
using some special international charachters).

> Thanks
>  
> On Saturday 14 December 2002 03:26 pm, Damien Sandras wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Some people have reported the same problem using old versions of
> > GnomeMeeting.
> >
> > However we don't know what the problem can be as some of the GM testers
> > have confirmed that it was working even with old versions, we suggest
> > you to upgrade your old gnomemeeting version to a newer one (in the 0.9x
> > serie).
> >
> > Le sam 14/12/2002 à 11:21, Will Lehman a écrit :
> > > Hi Everyone:
> > > For the last two weeks or so the server at ils.seconix.com gives me a
> > > message about having to register before seeing other users. However it
> > > appears that I AM registered. I get the "successfully regeistered to
> > > ils.seconix.com" message when starting gnomemeeting and another
> > > "successful logoff" message when quitting! (The registering is set in my
> > > preferences).
> > > Anyone know what could be wrong?
> > > Thanks for any help!
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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Le sam 14/12/2002 à 18:49, Anne Racel a écrit :
> While trying to run gnomemeeting 0.85, I receive the following error:
> 
> gnomemeeting: relocation error: gnomemeeting: undefined symbol: 
> __vt_Q29PIPSocket14InterfaceTable
> 
> Upgrading to 0.95 is not an option.  I'm open to any other suggestions.
> 

It means that you forced and broke dependancies when installing the
packages. Try to install things in a clean way.

> Anne Racel
> 
> 
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OK, that helped: There was an invalid email address in my settings and ma=
ybe=20
that was the problem? In anycase, after fixing the email, I was able to l=
og=20
in correctly.
Thanks!

On Saturday 14 December 2002 06:09 pm, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Le sam 14/12/2002 =E0 11:48, Will Lehman a =E9crit :
> > I am using the version 0.94.1 so I guess it must be some other proble=
m.
> > Unfortunately, I can't think of anything specific thing I've done
> > (firewall, settings, etc) in the mean time to cause the error. I will
> > keep fiddling and if I figure it out I'll let the list know.
>
> I have checked in the logs for your email, for your firstname and for
> your lastname, and nothing in the last week.
>
> Nobody has ever had problems to register using 0.94.1 (except if you ar=
e
> using some special international charachters).
>
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Saturday 14 December 2002 03:26 pm, Damien Sandras wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Some people have reported the same problem using old versions of
> > > GnomeMeeting.
> > >
> > > However we don't know what the problem can be as some of the GM tes=
ters
> > > have confirmed that it was working even with old versions, we sugge=
st
> > > you to upgrade your old gnomemeeting version to a newer one (in the
> > > 0.9x serie).
> > >
> > > Le sam 14/12/2002 =E0 11:21, Will Lehman a =E9crit :
> > > > Hi Everyone:
> > > > For the last two weeks or so the server at ils.seconix.com gives =
me a
> > > > message about having to register before seeing other users. Howev=
er
> > > > it appears that I AM registered. I get the "successfully regeiste=
red
> > > > to ils.seconix.com" message when starting gnomemeeting and anothe=
r
> > > > "successful logoff" message when quitting! (The registering is se=
t in
> > > > my preferences).
> > > > Anyone know what could be wrong?
> > > > Thanks for any help!
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > > > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or ldap 
server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting. The FAQ says 
this is possible starting in version .94 using XDAP, but I haven't been able 
to find exact instructions on how to do this anywhere on the web. Could 
someone please offer assistance?
(I know this is not recommended--this is for experiment only!)
Thanks!!!


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Le dim 15/12/2002 à 13:31, Will Lehman a écrit :
> I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or ldap 
> server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting. The FAQ says 
> this is possible starting in version .94 using XDAP, but I haven't been able 
> to find exact instructions on how to do this anywhere on the web. Could 
> someone please offer assistance?
> (I know this is not recommended--this is for experiment only!)
> Thanks!!!

I don't know how to do it with XDAP, but I'm sure you can do it with a
little tampering of the sources...

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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Le dim 15/12/2002 à 13:31, Will Lehman a écrit :
> I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or ldap 
> server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting. The FAQ says 
> this is possible starting in version .94 using XDAP, but I haven't been able 
> to find exact instructions on how to do this anywhere on the web. Could 
> someone please offer assistance?
> (I know this is not recommended--this is for experiment only!)
> Thanks!!!

You have to modify the xml files in /usr/share/gnomemeeting/xdap 
it is rather easy, but not recommended...

> 
> _______________________________________________
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% *** Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> wrote: ***
% Le dim 15/12/2002 =E0 13:31, Will Lehman a =E9crit :
% > I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or l=
dap=20
% > server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting.

Just a curious question: could you give me a reason of your choice of
the name 'ms-meeting' instead of 'gnomemeeting', pls ?


--=20
  Truong <tphuong@wol.be>


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Le dim 15/12/2002 à 19:13, Truong a écrit :
> % *** Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> wrote: ***
> % Le dim 15/12/2002 à 13:31, Will Lehman a écrit :
> % > I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or ldap 
> % > server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting.
> 
> Just a curious question: could you give me a reason of your choice of
> the name 'ms-meeting' instead of 'gnomemeeting', pls ?

When netmeeting connects to an ils server, it always search and list
other netmeeting clients. Hence all netmeeting users don't know about
non-netmeeting users. Only ils.seconix.com has been patched to forget
that particular (and antipathic) search key. Hence it could make sense
to appear as a netmeeting on other servers.

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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Hi Julien,

% *** PUYDT Julien <julien.puydt@laposte.net> wrote: ***
% Le dim 15/12/2002 =E0 19:13, Truong a =E9crit :
% > % *** Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> wrote: ***
% > % Le dim 15/12/2002 =E0 13:31, Will Lehman a =E9crit :
% > % > I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils =
or ldap=20
% > % > server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting.
% >=20
% > Just a curious question: could you give me a reason of your choice of
% > the name 'ms-meeting' instead of 'gnomemeeting', pls ?
%=20
% When netmeeting connects to an ils server, it always search and list
% other netmeeting clients.

You mean Netmeeting accepts to communicate only with "any" H.323 client
which has a name "ms-netmeeting" in an ILS server ? (As I'am not sure if
I understood it well).


--=20
  Truong <tphuong@wol.be>


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Le dim 15/12/2002 à 19:47, Truong a écrit :

> You mean Netmeeting accepts to communicate only with "any" H.323 client
> which has a name "ms-netmeeting" in an ILS server ? (As I'am not sure if
> I understood it well).

No, I mean when a nm user asks the list of all users matching a
condition (name=toto or nothing) in an ils server, nm silently adds the
condition "using netmeeting". If the server is honest (ie not
ils.seconix.com), it will then give a list where gnomemeeting users
won't appear.

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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% *** PUYDT Julien <julien.puydt@laposte.net> wrote: ***
% Le dim 15/12/2002 =E0 19:47, Truong a =E9crit :
%=20
% > You mean Netmeeting accepts to communicate only with "any" H.323 client
% > which has a name "ms-netmeeting" in an ILS server ? (As I'am not sure if
% > I understood it well).
%=20
% No, I mean when a nm user asks the list of all users matching a
% condition (name=3Dtoto or nothing) in an ils server, nm silently adds the
% condition "using netmeeting". If the server is honest (ie not
% ils.seconix.com), it will then give a list where gnomemeeting users
% won't appear.
%=20

I understand better now the way NM searches its partners in an ils server.

Thanks for your explains, Julien.

--=20
  Truong <tphuong@wol.be>


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Hi, just new to VOIP and found gnomemeeting - turns out I've had it for a while on
my distro's CD and didn't even know it

Being new to VOIP, I first started with MSN Messenger since some of the guys in the
office were using it anyway but found that my Linux router's firewall was creating
trouble with the UPnP data system that it uses.

I'm looking for a cross platform (windows 98 and linux) application to improve
communications between our two SOHO offices.  Gnomemeeting and netmeeting look like
two that might work for us

Also, I wanted something that had the potential to tie into a full office wide VOIP
system since I think the future is in that direction (we currently use a Nortel
Norstar system at one site and just simple two line phones at the other site)

I've read a bunch of web pags and HOWTOs and feel that I have the general idea of
how the system works, although trying to pick the actual software packages to use
has left me bewildered (partly I think because some of the articles I've read date
back a  couple of years and I think the software has changed since then)

Anyway, my general understanding is that I can establish two way VOIP calling with
gnomemeeting through my DSL connection.  With the addition of some software, I can
create a private directory to map users to dynamic IP addresses.

Also, additional software and hardware (like the Quicknet phonejack) will allow me
to replace my soundcard, speaker, and mic system with a telephone handset

With other hardware (like the Quicknet linejack) and other software I can actually
bridge between the IP and regular phone line systems

I have a couple of questions that will help me as I try to plan ahead:
- how practical is it to use a VOIP phone system inside a one storey, one location
office? (I'd need an interface card of some type for each phone extension and each
line coming in right?)
- are the VOIP phones essentially the same type of system as a analog phone plugged
into a phonejack card?
- is there a system for linux that could tie in with VOIP to let others on the
system know when someone has logged in (like MSN Messenger for instance)

Also, could someone point me towards a current howto for setting up some of the
more advanced features (while sticking to my soundcard and headset system for now)


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Damien:
THanks for the quick reply! If you could, please give me a hint about wha=
t=20
exactly to change in these files? I have looked at them and don't see an=20
obvious solution (I guess it has something to do with sappid, but there's=
 no=20
line such as "sappid=3Dgnomemeeting" that I could change!
Sorry for the ignorance, but these xml files are a bit more complicated t=
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the config files I'm used to seeing!
Thanks,
Will Lehman


On Sunday 15 December 2002 05:59 pm, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Le dim 15/12/2002 =E0 13:31, Will Lehman a =E9crit :
> > I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or
> > ldap server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting. Th=
e
> > FAQ says this is possible starting in version .94 using XDAP, but I
> > haven't been able to find exact instructions on how to do this anywhe=
re
> > on the web. Could someone please offer assistance?
> > (I know this is not recommended--this is for experiment only!)
> > Thanks!!!
>
> You have to modify the xml files in /usr/share/gnomemeeting/xdap
> it is rather easy, but not recommended...
>
> > _______________________________________________
> > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list


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Le dim 15/12/2002 à 23:59, Will Lehman a écrit :
> Damien:
> THanks for the quick reply! If you could, please give me a hint about what 
> exactly to change in these files? I have looked at them and don't see an 

Each line represents an attribute, for example :
<sappid>&sappid</sappid> will use the sappid provided by GnomeMeeting as
ILS sappid attribute.

The lines beginning by <!ENTITY are sort of constants, if you put a line
like <!ENTITY sappid "ms-netmeeting">, ms-netmeeting will always be used
as attribute value whatever the value provided by the application.

You might have other things to change than the sappid attribute, but it
is the only one I can think of for now. We advise you to not register on
ILS servers using a fake ms-netmeeting ID. Thanks,


> obvious solution (I guess it has something to do with sappid, but there's no 
> line such as "sappid=gnomemeeting" that I could change!
> Sorry for the ignorance, but these xml files are a bit more complicated than 
> the config files I'm used to seeing!
> Thanks,
> Will Lehman
> 
> 
> On Sunday 15 December 2002 05:59 pm, Damien Sandras wrote:
> > Le dim 15/12/2002 à 13:31, Will Lehman a écrit :
> > > I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or
> > > ldap server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting. The
> > > FAQ says this is possible starting in version .94 using XDAP, but I
> > > haven't been able to find exact instructions on how to do this anywhere
> > > on the web. Could someone please offer assistance?
> > > (I know this is not recommended--this is for experiment only!)
> > > Thanks!!!
> >
> > You have to modify the xml files in /usr/share/gnomemeeting/xdap
> > it is rather easy, but not recommended...
> >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
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Le lun 16/12/2002 à 04:34, Brian Johnson a écrit :
> Hi, just new to VOIP and found gnomemeeting - turns out I've had it for a while on
> my distro's CD and didn't even know it
> 


> Anyway, my general understanding is that I can establish two way VOIP calling with
> gnomemeeting through my DSL connection.  With the addition of some software, I can
> create a private directory to map users to dynamic IP addresses.
> 

Using either an ILS directory, or better, an H323 Gatekeeper.

> Also, additional software and hardware (like the Quicknet phonejack) will allow me
> to replace my soundcard, speaker, and mic system with a telephone handset
> 

Right :)

> With other hardware (like the Quicknet linejack) and other software I can actually
> bridge between the IP and regular phone line systems
> 

Yes, and you can also use external services providers.

> I have a couple of questions that will help me as I try to plan ahead:
> - how practical is it to use a VOIP phone system inside a one storey, one location
> office? (I'd need an interface card of some type for each phone extension and each
> line coming in right?)

Yes I think so too, but I'm not an expert in gateways. However, you can
try ISDN to H.323 gateways like this one :
http://www.telos.de/linux/H323/default_e.htm
but better ask on their mailing list for gateway related information.

> - are the VOIP phones essentially the same type of system as a analog phone plugged
> into a phonejack card?

Yes, it is essentially a well-integrated VOIP hardware system.

> - is there a system for linux that could tie in with VOIP to let others on the
> system know when someone has logged in (like MSN Messenger for instance)
> 

I don't think so. When someone logs in, the MSN server sends a message,
but with ILS and gatekeepers, you can't do that. 

> Also, could someone point me towards a current howto for setting up some of the
> more advanced features (while sticking to my soundcard and headset system for now)
> 

Perhaps try to find on google "Linux VOIP Howto", this Howto is not very
complete yet, but it is a good start.
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Le Samedi 14 D=E9cembre 2002 12:48, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> We already discussed that problem many times with you, your problem is
> simple, you are using PPP.
> A ppp connection is not enough to have a good quality.
---------------------------------
I don't follow all the discussions "poor audio quality",
so sorry to ask with this question :
what I have to add more than ppp ... ?
(I'm under a RTC modem)
may be with an ADSL connection, it will work better ...
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hai,
     i am new to gnomemeeting. i am using redhat7.2
and webcam is intel create and share. i am using the
module spca50x.my webcam works fine under gqcam
package. when i run gnomemeeting it tells that video
device were opened and also the test image was
transmitted.but i couldn't see  the test image.Help me
to come out this problem. 
         Thanking you 


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Le lun 16/12/2002 à 12:46, antoine a écrit :
> Le Samedi 14 Décembre 2002 12:48, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> > We already discussed that problem many times with you, your problem is
> > simple, you are using PPP.
> > A ppp connection is not enough to have a good quality.
> ---------------------------------
> I don't follow all the discussions "poor audio quality",
> so sorry to ask with this question :
> what I have to add more than ppp ... ?
> (I'm under a RTC modem)
> may be with an ADSL connection, it will work better ...
> thanks
> antoine 

RTC is/should be enough as long as none of the sides is sending video,
but I guess it depends much of the time when you connect.
If one of the sides is sending video; you need ADSL.


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Le lun 16/12/2002 à 12:17, prem kannan a écrit :
> hai,
>      i am new to gnomemeeting. i am using redhat7.2
> and webcam is intel create and share. i am using the
> module spca50x.my webcam works fine under gqcam
> package. when i run gnomemeeting it tells that video
> device were opened and also the test image was
> transmitted.but i couldn't see  the test image.Help me
> to come out this problem. 
>          Thanking you 

I'm not sure I understand your question.
The test image is automatically displayed when you enable video preview
and that there is a problem while opening the video device.
Here is help for you:

http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3&pos=0#AEN291

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> RTC is/should be enough as long as none of the sides is sending video,
> but I guess it depends much of the time when you connect.
> If one of the sides is sending video; you need ADSL.
------------------------------
I will see it later when i'm under ADSL ...  soon !
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On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 21:26, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Le lun 16/12/2002 =E0 12:17, prem kannan a =E9crit :
> > hai,
> >      i am new to gnomemeeting. i am using redhat7.2
> > and webcam is intel create and share. i am using the
> > module spca50x.my webcam works fine under gqcam
> > package. when i run gnomemeeting it tells that video
> > device were opened and also the test image was
> > transmitted.but i couldn't see  the test image.Help me
> > to come out this problem.=20
> >          Thanking you=20
>=20
There is a patch that has been put in the version of pwlib that has been
compiled with GM 0.94.1 for the spca50x driver so it knows what color
format to use.  if your using a version of GM Prior to this you will
need to either patch your pwlib. or update to gm 0.94.1  which on a RH
7.2 system will involve a gnome libs update. i can supply you with the
patch you need if thats what you want to do. what is the cs number of
the camera?  the cs430 needs alot of light to get a proper image not
sure about the cs330 havent tested mine much yet.

Dennis

> I'm not sure I understand your question.
> The test image is automatically displayed when you enable video preview
> and that there is a problem while opening the video device.
> Here is help for you:
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Please find attached a fairly simple patch (against the 0.94.1 tree) that adds
another capture size to GnomeMeeting.

This capture size I have named "Small (Scaled)".  Its function is simple; it
captures the image from the camera at CIF resolution, then, after conditioning
by H323VideoDevice::Redraw, it scales the image down to QCIF for
display/transmission.  

On my Logitech QuickCam Web, this improves QCIF image quality dramatically.  I'm
not sure if others have the same problems that I do; perhaps it's a driver- or
hardware-specific problem. To see the effect without applying the patch, compare
the QCIF image at regular (100%) zoom to the CIF image zoomed out to 50%
(without bilinear interpolation).  This is the image that my patch gives at 100%.

Does this seem useful to anyone else?  If not, Damien, don't feel compelled to
apply it.  It's rather hackish; a more elegant solution would have required
moving some code around.  It's certainly something I will continue to maintain,
because it makes GnomeMeeting that much more usable for me over slow links.

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Brian,

I have the same camera that you do.  I haven't been able to get it to talk
to my system.  Please share your config - OS, version, hardware, drivers,
...

Thanks

Les

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Please find attached a fairly simple patch (against the 0.94.1 tree) that
adds
another capture size to GnomeMeeting.

This capture size I have named "Small (Scaled)".  Its function is simple; it
captures the image from the camera at CIF resolution, then, after
conditioning
by H323VideoDevice::Redraw, it scales the image down to QCIF for
display/transmission.  

On my Logitech QuickCam Web, this improves QCIF image quality dramatically.
I'm
not sure if others have the same problems that I do; perhaps it's a driver-
or
hardware-specific problem. To see the effect without applying the patch,
compare
the QCIF image at regular (100%) zoom to the CIF image zoomed out to 50%
(without bilinear interpolation).  This is the image that my patch gives at
100%.

Does this seem useful to anyone else?  If not, Damien, don't feel compelled
to
apply it.  It's rather hackish; a more elegant solution would have required
moving some code around.  It's certainly something I will continue to
maintain,
because it makes GnomeMeeting that much more usable for me over slow links.

Regards,
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Le mar 17/12/2002 à 19:59, bteague@rice.edu a écrit :
> Please find attached a fairly simple patch (against the 0.94.1 tree) that adds
> another capture size to GnomeMeeting.
> 
> This capture size I have named "Small (Scaled)".  Its function is simple; it
> captures the image from the camera at CIF resolution, then, after conditioning
> by H323VideoDevice::Redraw, it scales the image down to QCIF for
> display/transmission.  
> 
Hello Brian,

Unfortunately, as I understand the patch, it only scales the picture
when displaying it, not for transmission. You would have the exact same
result by choosing to transmit "Large", and scaling down the image to
50%. If I understand your patch correctly of course.

If you are still interested in developing a patch to be able to make
your driver capture in CIF, but to transmit a QCIF scaled down image, it
has to be done in pwlib. It is of course very interesting to do because
that way, cameras supporting QSIF (160x120), could scale up the image to
QCIF (176x144) before sending the picture.

Let me know if you are interested in doing this, and I will guide you
through the code, it is very uncommon to find people willing to help.

Thanks,



> On my Logitech QuickCam Web, this improves QCIF image quality dramatically.  I'm
> not sure if others have the same problems that I do; perhaps it's a driver- or
> hardware-specific problem. To see the effect without applying the patch, compare
> the QCIF image at regular (100%) zoom to the CIF image zoomed out to 50%
> (without bilinear interpolation).  This is the image that my patch gives at 100%.
> 
> Does this seem useful to anyone else?  If not, Damien, don't feel compelled to
> apply it.  It's rather hackish; a more elegant solution would have required
> moving some code around.  It's certainly something I will continue to maintain,
> because it makes GnomeMeeting that much more usable for me over slow links.
> 
> Regards,
> Brian Teague
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There are lots of documentation you should read at www.gnomemeeting.org.
If after that reading you still have problems using the software, i
suggest you to mail gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org with your problems, were
lots of people will be able to help you.

Thank you for trying GnomeMeeting.

El mar, 17-12-2002 a las 22:20, Boi Roig Roig escribió:
> Hello,
> 
>     I'm Boi Roig Roig.
> 
>         I wish to run this software using my webcam, but I have no help 
> files. GnomeMeeting logs "no gatekeeper found" and I can't find someone 
> because says that I am not registered.
> 
> Where could I found help, and where could I register me?
> 
> 
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> Hello Brian,
> 
> Unfortunately, as I understand the patch, it only scales the picture
> when displaying it, not for transmission. 

Yes.  I noticed that.  I was so excited to finally have local video looking good
that I forgot to check the transmitted result.

> 
> If you are still interested in developing a patch to be able to make
> your driver capture in CIF, but to transmit a QCIF scaled down image, it
> has to be done in pwlib. It is of course very interesting to do because
> that way, cameras supporting QSIF (160x120), could scale up the image to
> QCIF (176x144) before sending the picture.

I think arbitrary scaling of the transmitted video (ie, from an arbitrary frame
size to CIF or QCIF) sounds like a good idea.  Unforunately, I was using
Gdk-pixbuf to do the actual scaling, which means I'd have to actually implement
the scaler myself.  Or does PWLib have it somewhere already?

> 
> Let me know if you are interested in doing this, and I will guide you
> through the code, it is very uncommon to find people willing to help.

Certainly.

At first, I tried doing it in videograbber.cpp, in the main loop between
channel->Read() and channel->Write().  The implementation was really clean, but
the results were horrible; apparently, H323VideoDevice::Redraw() does some
conditioning of the image that makes it scale better.  (Or is it just that the
image data between channel->Read() and channel->Write() isn't in RGB format yet,
and so a simple box filter doesn't work?  I couldn't really tell.)

I'd be more than happy to work on a more general-purpose version of this
concept... as long as it still works in the special case for which I attempted
to write it in the first place.  (-;

Thanks!

Brian


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> I think arbitrary scaling of the transmitted video (ie, from an arbitrary frame
> size to CIF or QCIF) sounds like a good idea.  Unforunately, I was using
> Gdk-pixbuf to do the actual scaling, which means I'd have to actually implement
> the scaler myself.  Or does PWLib have it somewhere already?
> 

No, PWLib is only able to "crop" the image. So if a given webcam can
only capture in CIF mode, only a part of the CIF picture will be
transmitted in QCIF mode. If you are interested to work on this in pwlib
itself, I think it would be a good contribution to gnomemeeting and
OpenH323, but it won't be easy.

If you want, you can already have a look in
pwlib/src/ptlib/unix/video4linux.cxx and perhaps rewrite the function
that crops picture to resize it instead. but again, that won't be easy.
You can perhaps reuse some code from gdk_pixbuf to achieve it.



> > 
> > Let me know if you are interested in doing this, and I will guide you
> > through the code, it is very uncommon to find people willing to help.
> 

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Le mer 18/12/2002 à 14:33, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> You can perhaps reuse some code from gdk_pixbuf to achieve it.

Beware of the license of the code...

Snark


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Hi,

I have the same problem with getting almost instantly disconnected
(also the closing / opening of videodevice message) when attempting a
connection to a Netmeeting whatever version it may be (I tried against
Netmeeting 2.11 and 3.01). I will try to describe what I tried till
now:

I have the camera installed on the firewall of my network, which is a
Mandrake 9.0. Same symptom remains also when firewall is disabled
completely and a portscan on myself showed no blocking of any ports. So
firewall is not an issue.I tried both with Gnomemeeting 93.1 and 94.1.

I tried against a WinXp NetMeeting 3.01 and a Win98SE 2.11 and still
same. Tried to kill the sound server but still no go.

But I did find out one funny thing.

If the other person disables the videotransmission, then it works. It
works meaning that he can see me and hear me and I can hear him. As
soon as he starts the video transmission from his netmeeting,
connection is lost. In most cases I see in my call logs "The other
party has cleared the connection.".

I don't know if knowing that without video transmission from the
NetMeeting end works will help, but thought I'd share it. If anyone can
instruct me how to start both NetMeeting and Gnomemeeting with debug
output I would appreciate it. Maybe I can provide some more input on
what is happening.

BTW, me and the other guy have both A-DSL 768/128 Kb dl/ul. So I don't
think speed is a prob. On the other hand I succesfully connected to
other persons running Gnomemeeting.

Tweaking any possible settings including video quality and FPS
limitation didn't help at all (and beleive me when I say that for the
last 2 days I tried everything I could change in the configs/options
and searched the entire net for solutions). And BTW, disable video
and/or audio on my side didn't change a thing. The connection breaks as
soon as the NetMeeting user turns on video transmission.

Best regards,
Adrian Golumbovici

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Le mer 18/12/2002 à 17:10, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :

many things, but I'll take only that line:
> So firewall is not an issue
you only proved it wasn't an issue on YOUR side... what about the other
side?

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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You can run gnomemeeting with --debug=3 and see.
But, given the fact that:
- GnomeMeeting indicates that Netmeeting clears the call
- the problem disappear if the the Netmeeting user doesn't transmit
video
- the problem doesn't disappear if you disable video transmission
- you have no problems with other GnomeMeeting users

I would say that the Netmeeting is faulty and for one reason or another
decides that it can't transmit video. The problem is to discover *why*
Netmeeting suddenly decides to stop the connection. I think GnomeMeeting
can't do anything to prevent it if the Netmeeting disconnects.



Le mer 18/12/2002 à 17:10, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I have the same problem with getting almost instantly disconnected
> (also the closing / opening of videodevice message) when attempting a
> connection to a Netmeeting whatever version it may be (I tried against
> Netmeeting 2.11 and 3.01). I will try to describe what I tried till
> now:
> 
> I have the camera installed on the firewall of my network, which is a
> Mandrake 9.0. Same symptom remains also when firewall is disabled
> completely and a portscan on myself showed no blocking of any ports. So
> firewall is not an issue.I tried both with Gnomemeeting 93.1 and 94.1.
> 
> I tried against a WinXp NetMeeting 3.01 and a Win98SE 2.11 and still
> same. Tried to kill the sound server but still no go.
> 
> But I did find out one funny thing.
> 
> If the other person disables the videotransmission, then it works. It
> works meaning that he can see me and hear me and I can hear him. As
> soon as he starts the video transmission from his netmeeting,
> connection is lost. In most cases I see in my call logs "The other
> party has cleared the connection.".
> 
> I don't know if knowing that without video transmission from the
> NetMeeting end works will help, but thought I'd share it. If anyone can
> instruct me how to start both NetMeeting and Gnomemeeting with debug
> output I would appreciate it. Maybe I can provide some more input on
> what is happening.
> 
> BTW, me and the other guy have both A-DSL 768/128 Kb dl/ul. So I don't
> think speed is a prob. On the other hand I succesfully connected to
> other persons running Gnomemeeting.
> 
> Tweaking any possible settings including video quality and FPS
> limitation didn't help at all (and beleive me when I say that for the
> last 2 days I tried everything I could change in the configs/options
> and searched the entire net for solutions). And BTW, disable video
> and/or audio on my side didn't change a thing. The connection breaks as
> soon as the NetMeeting user turns on video transmission.
> 
> Best regards,
> Adrian Golumbovici
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Oh well...

First of all on the other side there is a LAN but he is also on his =
gateway (WinXP). Firewall on his side is also disabled. The maximum a =
connection held was about 20 seconds. For about 0 to 5 seconds I can see =
him but suddenly connection drops.:/ So I guess his firewall is also out =
of the question.

I know it might be a Netmeeting problem, but I think it might be in =
relation with gnomemeeting or I wouldn't be posting in here in the first =
place.:)

As far as I know he had successfull connections with other netmeeting =
users. So I was wondering if any other user had same prob and found this =
list. At least in theory it should be compatible...

I waited for a year visiting each day the developer sites to see a OV518 =
based webcam driver and finally got it. Now I was just eager to use it.

I guess I could also try to buy another network card and try to install =
adsl driver on my win2k PC and see for myself if he really can connect =
netmeeting to netmeeting.

But as I am sick of M$ I just hoped that soon I can finally switch to =
linux forever....

Oh well... I will try to run gnomemeeting with debug and see if I can =
come up with better info on what happens...

In the mean time if anyone can think of a reason for which this is =
happening or had this prob and solved it, please let me know. :)

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh well...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>First of all on the other side there is =
a&nbsp;LAN=20
but he is also on his gateway (WinXP). Firewall on his side is also =
disabled.=20
The maximum a connection held was about 20 seconds. For about 0 to 5 =
seconds I=20
can see him but suddenly connection drops.:/ So I guess his firewall is =
also out=20
of the question.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know it might be a Netmeeting =
problem, but I=20
think it might be in relation with gnomemeeting or I wouldn't be posting =
in here=20
in the first place.:)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As far as I know he had successfull =
connections=20
with other netmeeting users. So I was wondering if any other user had =
same prob=20
and found this list. At least in theory it should be =
compatible...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I waited for a year visiting each day =
the developer=20
sites to see a OV518 based webcam driver and finally got it. Now I was =
just=20
eager to use it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I guess I could also try to buy another =
network=20
card and try to install adsl driver on my win2k PC and see for myself if =
he=20
really can connect netmeeting to netmeeting.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But as I am sick of M$ I just hoped =
that soon I can=20
finally switch to linux forever....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh well... I will try to run =
gnomemeeting with=20
debug and see if I can come up with better info on what =
happens...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In the mean time if anyone can think of =
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We had similar reports in the past and the problem was always because of
firewalls.

Now, try to capture the output of --debug=3 and send it to the list but
there is a big chance that we will only notice that Netmeeting simply
decided to disconnect. Make him double check all his settings. For
example, in his connection settings, make sure he is not telling to
Netmeeting that he has ppp connection or something like that. Try to ask
him to put "Lan" or something like that.

Also make sure that his firewall is really disabled.

Le mer 18/12/2002 à 19:05, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> Oh well...
>  
> First of all on the other side there is a LAN but he is also on his
> gateway (WinXP). Firewall on his side is also disabled. The maximum a
> connection held was about 20 seconds. For about 0 to 5 seconds I can
> see him but suddenly connection drops.:/ So I guess his firewall is
> also out of the question.
>  
> I know it might be a Netmeeting problem, but I think it might be in
> relation with gnomemeeting or I wouldn't be posting in here in the
> first place.:)
>  
> As far as I know he had successfull connections with other netmeeting
> users. So I was wondering if any other user had same prob and found
> this list. At least in theory it should be compatible...
>  
> I waited for a year visiting each day the developer sites to see a
> OV518 based webcam driver and finally got it. Now I was just eager to
> use it.
>  
> I guess I could also try to buy another network card and try to
> install adsl driver on my win2k PC and see for myself if he really can
> connect netmeeting to netmeeting.
>  
> But as I am sick of M$ I just hoped that soon I can finally switch to
> linux forever....
>  
> Oh well... I will try to run gnomemeeting with debug and see if I can
> come up with better info on what happens...
>  
> In the mean time if anyone can think of a reason for which this is
> happening or had this prob and solved it, please let me know. :)
>  
-- 
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ummm.... why putting ppp as his connection in Netmeeting might  create
probs?!?
and if firewall would be an issue, why would I still get at least 0-5
seconds of image from him?

I know a bit about firewalling (configured a few myself) but am not
declaring myself an expert. Still, getting only a part of the transmission
through a firewall doesn't make much sense...

P.S. As soon as I can get him to help me debug it I will post the results.

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> We had similar reports in the past and the problem was always because of
> firewalls.
>
> Now, try to capture the output of --debug=3 and send it to the list but
> there is a big chance that we will only notice that Netmeeting simply
> decided to disconnect. Make him double check all his settings. For
> example, in his connection settings, make sure he is not telling to
> Netmeeting that he has ppp connection or something like that. Try to ask
> him to put "Lan" or something like that.
>
> Also make sure that his firewall is really disabled.
>
> Le mer 18/12/2002 à 19:05, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> > Oh well...
> >
> > First of all on the other side there is a LAN but he is also on his
> > gateway (WinXP). Firewall on his side is also disabled. The maximum a
> > connection held was about 20 seconds. For about 0 to 5 seconds I can
> > see him but suddenly connection drops.:/ So I guess his firewall is
> > also out of the question.
> >
> > I know it might be a Netmeeting problem, but I think it might be in
> > relation with gnomemeeting or I wouldn't be posting in here in the
> > first place.:)
> >
> > As far as I know he had successfull connections with other netmeeting
> > users. So I was wondering if any other user had same prob and found
> > this list. At least in theory it should be compatible...
> >
> > I waited for a year visiting each day the developer sites to see a
> > OV518 based webcam driver and finally got it. Now I was just eager to
> > use it.
> >
> > I guess I could also try to buy another network card and try to
> > install adsl driver on my win2k PC and see for myself if he really can
> > connect netmeeting to netmeeting.
> >
> > But as I am sick of M$ I just hoped that soon I can finally switch to
> > linux forever....
> >
> > Oh well... I will try to run gnomemeeting with debug and see if I can
> > come up with better info on what happens...
> >
> > In the mean time if anyone can think of a reason for which this is
> > happening or had this prob and solved it, please let me know. :)
> >
> --
> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
>
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Le mer 18/12/2002 à 19:23, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> ummm.... why putting ppp as his connection in Netmeeting might  create
> probs?!?

For the same reason why using Windows might create probs? ;-)

> and if firewall would be an issue, why would I still get at least 0-5
> seconds of image from him?

Because it is outgoing traffic for him, outgoing traffic is rarely
firewalled, people usually only filter incoming traffic. The problem is
probably that his netmeeting doesn't receive any data from you, thus it
disconnects.
If it doesn't receive any data from you, either the data doesn't leave
your computer, or the data is dropped on his side.

> 
> I know a bit about firewalling (configured a few myself) but am not
> declaring myself an expert. Still, getting only a part of the transmission
> through a firewall doesn't make much sense...

Why not? Isn't it the purpose of firewalls to filter connections and to
accept some of them and reject others ?

> 
> P.S. As soon as I can get him to help me debug it I will post the results.
> 

-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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> > ummm.... why putting ppp as his connection in Netmeeting might  create
> > probs?!?
>
> For the same reason why using Windows might create probs? ;-)

Lol. You got a point there. ;)

>
> > and if firewall would be an issue, why would I still get at least 0-5
> > seconds of image from him?
>
> Because it is outgoing traffic for him, outgoing traffic is rarely
> firewalled, people usually only filter incoming traffic. The problem is
> probably that his netmeeting doesn't receive any data from you, thus it
> disconnects.
> If it doesn't receive any data from you, either the data doesn't leave
> your computer, or the data is dropped on his side.

I knew you guys know more about this than me. :)

> > I know a bit about firewalling (configured a few myself) but am not
> > declaring myself an expert. Still, getting only a part of the
transmission
> > through a firewall doesn't make much sense...
>
> Why not? Isn't it the purpose of firewalls to filter connections and to
> accept some of them and reject others ?

I know that. But this usually happens on different ports and different
directions of communication and not on one port and one directions but just
for a few seconds. :/


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OK. I started it with --debug=3. As before he connected at first without
video transmission enabled and after a while (about 30 seconds) he started
it and connection dropped as before in a few seconds. Here is the Log:

0:06.088 gnomemeeting gnomemeeting Version 0.94.1 by on Unix Linux
(2.4.19-16mdk-i686) at 2002/12/18 19:15:52.784

0:06.094 gnomemeeting H323 Started listener Listener[ip$*:1720]

0:06.096 H323 Listener:822f478 H323 Awaiting TCP connections on port 1720

0:06.186 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1

0:06.567 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLimits.
160x120 -- 352x288

0:06.773 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLimits.
160x120 -- 352x288

0:06.911 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeeded
for converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P

0:06.912 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLimits.
160x120 -- 352x288

0:06.912 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

0:07.052 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

0:29.086 H323 Listener:822f478 H323TCP Started connection:
host=217.82.7.44:4348, if=80.134.251.111:1720, handle=32

0:29.087 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Started incoming call thread

0:29.088 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Awaiting first PDU

0:29.105 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Receiving PDU: setup

0:29.105 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Incoming call, first PDU:
callReference=26496

0:29.107 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>

0:29.108 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>

0:29.108 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15k{sw} <3>

0:29.109 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k{sw} <4>

0:29.109 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>

0:29.110 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>

0:29.110 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:29.111 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <8>

0:29.111 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:29.111 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>

0:29.112 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>

0:29.112 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>

0:29.113 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: SpeexNarrow-15k{sw} <3>

0:29.113 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: SpeexNarrow-8k{sw} <4>

0:29.113 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>

0:29.114 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>

0:29.114 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:29.115 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <8>

0:29.115 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:29.116 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <10>

0:29.117 H225 Answer:82595c8 RFC2833 Handler created

0:29.118 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Created new connection:
ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496

0:29.119 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Handling PDU: Setup callRef=26496

0:29.119 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Set protocol version to 1 and implying
H.245 version 2

0:29.120 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Set remote application name: "Microsoft®
NetMeeting® 2.11 181/21324"

0:29.122 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Sending call proceeding PDU

0:29.126 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Sending PDU: callProceeding

0:29.145 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Incoming call accepted

0:29.657 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Answering call: AnswerCallNow

0:29.657 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 TCP Listen for H245 on
80.134.251.111:30000

0:29.658 H245:8259dd0 H245 Started thread

0:29.659 H245:8259dd0 H245 TCP Accept wait

0:29.660 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Sending PDU: connect

0:29.663 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=HasExecutedSignalConnect fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:29.664 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=HasExecutedSignalConnect fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:29.665 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Reading PDUs: callRef=26496

0:30.668 H245:8259dd0 H323TCP Started connection: host=217.82.7.44:4351,
if=80.134.251.111:30000, handle=38

0:30.669 H245:8259dd0 H245 Started control channel

0:30.670 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending TerminalCapabilitySet: outSeq=1

0:30.679 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: request terminalCapabilitySet

0:30.682 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending MasterSlaveDetermination

0:30.683 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: request masterSlaveDetermination

0:30.689 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: request terminalCapabilitySet

0:30.689 H245:8259dd0 H245 Set protocol version to 2

0:30.690 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received TerminalCapabilitySet: state=InProgress
pduSeq=1 inSeq=4294967295

0:30.690 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>

0:30.691 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>

0:30.691 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15k{sw} <3>

0:30.692 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k{sw} <4>

0:30.692 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>

0:30.693 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>

0:30.693 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:30.694 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <8>

0:30.694 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:30.694 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>

0:30.695 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:30.696 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <8>

0:30.696 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.723.1A(6.3k)-Cisco{hw} <11>

0:30.697 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.723.1A(5.3k){hw} <12>

0:30.697 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.723.1A(6.3k){hw} <13>

0:30.698 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.723.1(5.3k){hw} <14>

0:30.698 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.723.1{hw} <15>

0:30.699 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.729A/B{hw} <16>

0:30.699 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.729A{hw} <17>

0:30.700 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{hw} <18>

0:30.700 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.728{hw} <19>

0:30.701 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{hw} <20>

0:30.702 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{hw} <21>

0:30.702 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>

0:30.703 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: MS-IMA-ADPCM{sw} <22>

0:30.704 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>

0:30.704 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.726-16k{sw} <23>

0:30.705 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.726-24k{sw} <24>

0:30.705 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>

0:30.706 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.726-40k{sw} <25>

0:30.706 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>

0:30.707 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.729A{n/a} <26>

0:30.708 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.729{n/a} <27>

0:30.708 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-18.2k{sw} <28>

0:30.709 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: SpeexNarrow-15k{sw} <3>

0:30.710 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-11k{sw} <29>

0:30.710 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: SpeexNarrow-8k{sw} <4>

0:30.711 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-5.95k{sw} <30>

0:30.711 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: UserInput/hookflash <31>

0:30.712 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: UserInput/basicString <32>

0:30.712 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: UserInput/dtmf <33>

0:30.715 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: UserInput/RFC2833 <34>

0:30.715 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <8>

0:30.716 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:30.717 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.723.1A(5.3k){hw} <12>

0:30.717 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:30.718 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:30.719 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <1>

0:30.720 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:30.720 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.723.1(5.3k){hw} <4>

0:30.721 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <6>

0:30.721 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <7>

0:30.722 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.723.1(5.3k){hw} <4>

0:30.722 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:30.723 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <1>

0:30.724 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: H.261-QCIF <6>

0:30.724 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.723.1(5.3k){hw} <4>

0:30.724 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:30.725 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <1>

0:30.725 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <7>

0:30.726 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received capability set, is accepted

0:30.726 H245:8259dd0 H245 TerminalCapabilitySet already in progress:
outSeq=1

0:30.727 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: response terminalCapabilitySetAck

0:30.728 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=HasExecutedSignalConnect fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:31.002 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: request masterSlaveDetermination

0:31.006 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received MasterSlaveDetermination: state=Outgoing

0:31.007 H245:8259dd0 H245 MasterSlaveDetermination: local is slave

0:31.007 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: response masterSlaveDeterminationAck

0:31.008 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=HasExecutedSignalConnect fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:31.342 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: response terminalCapabilitySetAck

0:31.343 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received TerminalCapabilitySetAck:
state=InProgress pduSeq=1 outSeq=1

0:31.344 H245:8259dd0 H245 TerminalCapabilitySet Sent.

0:31.344 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=HasExecutedSignalConnect fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:31.696 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: response
masterSlaveDeterminationAck

0:31.696 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received MasterSlaveDeterminationAck:
state=Incoming

0:31.697 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=HasExecutedSignalConnect fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:31.698 H245:8259dd0 H245 Default OnSelectLogicalChannels,
FastStartDisabled

0:31.698 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:31.699 H245:8259dd0 H323 Selecting G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:31.699 H245:8259dd0 H245 Opening channel: T-101

0:31.702 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP Session 1 created: data=5000 control=5001
ssrc=543449014

0:31.704 H245:8259dd0 RTP Adding session RTP_UDP

0:31.704 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Transmitter created using session 1

0:31.705 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnSendingPDU

0:31.706 H245:8259dd0 RTP OnSendingPDU

0:31.707 H245:8259dd0 Codec G711 uLaw encoder created for at 64k, frame of
240 samples

0:31.894 H245:8259dd0 Codec Opened sound channel "/dev/sound/dsp" for
recording using 4x480 byte buffers.

0:31.895 H245:8259dd0 H323 Started sending logical channel:
G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:31.902 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Opened using capability G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:31.902 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Bandwidth requested/used = 64.0/0.0 kb/s

0:31.903 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: -0.0kb/s, available:
10000.0kb/s

0:31.904 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: +64.0kb/s, available:
10000.0kb/s

0:31.905 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: request openLogicalChannel

0:31.906 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: H.261-QCIF <6>

0:31.907 H245:8259dd0 H323 Selecting H.261-QCIF <6>

0:31.907 H245:8259dd0 H245 Opening channel: T-102

0:31.909 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP Session 2 created: data=5002 control=5003
ssrc=4193115180

0:31.910 H245:8259dd0 RTP Adding session RTP_UDP

0:31.910 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Transmitter created using session 2

0:31.911 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnSendingPDU

0:31.911 H245:8259dd0 RTP OnSendingPDU

0:31.912 H245:8259dd0 H261 QCIF encoder created.

0:31.913 H245:8259dd0 SetAverageBandwidth for video to 0bps

0:31.915 H245:8259dd0 H323 Started sending logical channel: H.261-QCIF <6>

0:31.919 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Opened using capability H.261-QCIF <6>

0:31.919 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Bandwidth requested/used = 240.0/0.0 kb/s

0:31.920 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: -0.0kb/s, available:
9936.0kb/s

0:31.920 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: +240.0kb/s, available:
9936.0kb/s

0:31.921 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: request openLogicalChannel

0:31.935 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: request openLogicalChannel

0:31.936 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received open channel: R-257, state=Released

0:31.937 H245:8259dd0 H323 CreateLogicalChannel - forward channel

0:31.937 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:31.938 H245:8259dd0 RTP Found existing session 2

0:31.938 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Receiver created using session 2

0:31.939 H245:8259dd0 H261 QCIF decoder created.

0:31.939 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Bandwidth requested/used = 240.0/0.0 kb/s

0:31.940 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: -0.0kb/s, available:
9696.0kb/s

0:31.940 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: +240.0kb/s, available:
9696.0kb/s

0:31.941 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnReceivedPDU for channel: R-257

0:31.942 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP SetRemoteSocketInfo: control channel,
new=217.82.7.44:5005, local=80.134.251.111:5002-5003, remote=0.0.0.0:0-0

0:31.942 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnSendOpenAck

0:31.943 H245:8259dd0 RTP OnSendingAckPDU

0:31.943 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Sending open logical channel ACK: sessionID=2

0:31.944 H245:8259dd0 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1

0:31.945 H245:8259dd0 H323 Started receiving logical channel: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:32.006 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:32.006 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:32.513 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:32.513 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:33.023 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:33.024 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:33.533 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:33.534 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:33.954 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: command miscellaneousCommand

0:33.956 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Opened using capability H.261-QCIF <9>

0:33.957 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receive H.261 thread started.

0:33.958 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: response openLogicalChannelAck

0:33.959 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:33.961 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: request openLogicalChannel

0:33.962 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received open channel: R-258, state=Released

0:33.963 H245:8259dd0 H323 CreateLogicalChannel - forward channel

0:33.963 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:33.964 H245:8259dd0 RTP Found existing session 1

0:33.964 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Receiver created using session 1

0:33.964 H245:8259dd0 Codec G711 uLaw decoder created for at 64k, frame of
256 samples

0:33.965 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Bandwidth requested/used = 64.0/0.0 kb/s

0:33.965 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: -0.0kb/s, available:
9456.0kb/s

0:33.966 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: +64.0kb/s, available:
9456.0kb/s

0:33.967 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnReceivedPDU for channel: R-258

0:33.967 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP SetRemoteSocketInfo: control channel,
new=217.82.7.44:5013, local=80.134.251.111:5000-5001, remote=0.0.0.0:0-0

0:33.968 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnSendOpenAck

0:33.968 H245:8259dd0 RTP OnSendingAckPDU

0:33.969 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Sending open logical channel ACK: sessionID=1

/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy

0:33.992 H245:8259dd0 Codec Opened sound channel "/dev/sound/dsp" for
playing using 4x512 byte buffers.

0:33.993 H245:8259dd0 H323 Started receiving logical channel:
G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:33.994 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Opened using capability G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:34.001 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: response openLogicalChannelAck

0:34.002 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:34.004 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: response openLogicalChannelAck

0:34.005 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received open channel ack: T-101,
state=AwaitingEstablishment

0:34.005 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnReceiveOpenAck

0:34.005 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP SetRemoteSocketInfo: control channel,
new=217.82.7.44:5013, local=80.134.251.111:5000-5001,
remote=217.82.7.44:5012-5013

0:34.006 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP SetRemoteSocketInfo: data channel,
new=217.82.7.44:5012, local=80.134.251.111:5000-5001,
remote=217.82.7.44:5012-5013

0:34.008 LogChanRx:81e9730 H323RTP Receive G.711-uLaw-64k thread started.

0:34.009 LogChanRx:81e9730 RTP Jitter buffer created: size=41 delay=1600

0:34.010 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:34.011 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: response openLogicalChannelAck

0:34.012 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received open channel ack: T-102,
state=AwaitingEstablishment

0:34.012 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnReceiveOpenAck

0:34.013 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP SetRemoteSocketInfo: control channel,
new=217.82.7.44:5005, local=80.134.251.111:5002-5003,
remote=217.82.7.44:5004-5005

0:34.014 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP SetRemoteSocketInfo: data channel,
new=217.82.7.44:5004, local=80.134.251.111:5002-5003,
remote=217.82.7.44:5004-5005

0:34.015 LogChanTx:828b830 H323RTP Transmit G.711-uLaw-64k thread started:
rate=240 time=30ms size=30*8=240

0:34.017 RTP Jitter:81ea858 RTP Jitter RTP receive thread started

0:34.018 LogChanTx:8264488 H323RTP Transmit H.261 thread started: rate=0
time=0ms size=1*2000=2000

0:34.023 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:34.025 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: command miscellaneousCommand

0:34.026 H245:8259dd0 Codec OnMiscellaneousCommand: videoFastUpdatePicture

0:34.026 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:34.027 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: command miscellaneousCommand

0:34.027 H245:8259dd0 Codecs H245 Miscellaneous Command :
videoTemporalSpatialTradeoff 29

0:34.028 H245:8259dd0 Codec OnVideoTemporalSpatialTradeoff()

0:34.028 H245:8259dd0 Codec OnMiscellaneousCommand:
videoTemporalSpatialTradeOff

0:34.029 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:34.043 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:34.043 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:34.216 LogChanTx:828b830 H323RTP Transmit start of talk burst: 240

0:34.243 LogChanRx:81e9730 Got 16bit PCM DTMF &#0;

0:34.553 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:34.554 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:34.601 LogChanRx:829fb50 RTP OnReceiverReport: ssrc=3786174224

0:34.601 LogChanRx:829fb50 RTP OnReceiverReport RR: ssrc=4193115180
fraction=0 lost=0 last_seq=47279 jitter=264 lsr=0.000 dlsr=0.000

0:34.602 LogChanRx:829fb50 RTP OnSourceDescription: ssrc=3786174224

item[0]: type=CNAME data="DFG"

item[1]: type=NAME data="DFG"

0:34.604 RTP Jitter:81ea858 RTP OnReceiverReport: ssrc=905823596

0:34.605 RTP Jitter:81ea858 RTP OnSourceDescription: ssrc=905823596

item[0]: type=CNAME data="DFG"

item[1]: type=NAME data="DFG"

0:34.801 LogChanRx:829fb50 RTP First data: ver=2 pt=H261 psz=1055 m=0 x=0
seq=20294 ts=84009240 src=3786174224 ccnt=0

0:34.802 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 84009240

0:34.802 LogChanRx:829fb50 H261 Detected loss of one video packet. 2 !=
20294 Will recover.

0:34.804 LogChanRx:829fb50 H245 Sending PDU: command miscellaneousCommand

0:34.806 LogChanRx:829fb50 H261 Lost or out of order packet, using values
from H261 header

0:34.810 LogChanRx:829fb50 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

0:35.053 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 84033540

0:35.063 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:35.063 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:35.217 LogChanTx:8264488 H323RTP Transmitter sent timestamp 18018

0:35.333 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 84057930

0:35.535 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Receiving PDU: releaseComplete

0:35.535 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Handling PDU: ReleaseComplete
callRef=26496

0:35.536 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Clearing connection
ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 reason=EndedByRemoteUser

0:35.537 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Call end reason for
ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 set to EndedByRemoteUser

0:35.537 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Sending release complete PDU:
callRef=26496

0:35.539 H225 Answer:82595c8 H245 Sending PDU: command endSessionCommand

0:35.540 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Sending PDU: releaseComplete

0:35.540 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Clearing connection
ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 reason=EndedByTransportFail

0:35.541 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Signal channel closed.

0:35.543 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

0:35.544 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 closing:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection

0:35.544 H323 Cleaner H323RTP Cleaning up RTP T-102

0:35.544 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 2, Shutting down write.

0:35.545 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaning up T-102

0:35.573 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:35.574 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:35.589 LogChanTx:8264488 RTP_UDP Session 2, Write shutdown.

0:35.589 LogChanTx:8264488 H323RTP Transmit H.261 thread ended

0:35.598 H323 Cleaner H323 Stopped sending logical channel: H.261-QCIF <6>

0:35.599 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaned up T-102

0:35.599 H323 Cleaner H323RTP Cleaning up RTP R-257

0:35.600 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 2, Shutting down read.

0:35.600 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaning up R-257

0:35.601 LogChanRx:829fb50 RTP_UDP Session 2, Read shutdown.

0:35.601 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receive H.261 thread ended

0:35.613 H323 Cleaner H323 Stopped receiving logical channel: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:35.613 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaned up R-257

0:35.614 H323 Cleaner H323RTP Cleaning up RTP R-258

0:35.614 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 1, Shutting down read.

0:35.615 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaning up R-258

0:35.615 RTP Jitter:81ea858 RTP_UDP Session 1, Read shutdown.

0:35.615 RTP Jitter:81ea858 RTP Jitter RTP receive thread ended

0:35.621 LogChanRx:81e9730 H323RTP Receive G.711-uLaw-64k thread ended

0:35.629 H245:8259dd0 H245 Read error:

0:35.629 H245:8259dd0 H323 Clearing connection ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496
reason=EndedByTransportFail

0:35.630 H245:8259dd0 H245 Control channel closed.

0:35.633 H323 Cleaner H323 Stopped receiving logical channel:
G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:35.633 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaned up R-258

0:35.634 H323 Cleaner H323RTP Cleaning up RTP T-101

0:35.634 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 1, Shutting down write.

0:35.634 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaning up T-101

0:35.658 LogChanTx:828b830 RTP_UDP Session 1, Write shutdown.

0:35.658 LogChanTx:828b830 H323RTP Transmit G.711-uLaw-64k thread ended

0:35.749 H323 Cleaner H323 Stopped sending logical channel:
G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:35.750 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaned up T-101

0:35.750 H323 Cleaner RTP Releasing session 2

0:35.751 H323 Cleaner H323 Bandwidth request: -240.0kb/s, available:
9392.0kb/s

0:35.752 H323 Cleaner RTP Releasing session 2

0:35.752 H323 Cleaner RTP Deleting session 2

0:35.752 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 2, Shutting down read.

0:35.753 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 2, Shutting down write.

0:35.754 H323 Cleaner RTP Final statistics:

packetsSent = 26

octetsSent = 21939

averageSendTime = 0

maximumSendTime = 0

minimumSendTime = 0

packetsReceived = 6

octetsReceived = 4391

packetsLost = 0

packetsTooLate = 0

packetsOutOfOrder = 0

averageReceiveTime= 0

maximumReceiveTime= 0

minimumReceiveTime= 0

jitter = 15

0:35.756 H323 Cleaner H323 Bandwidth request: -240.0kb/s, available:
9632.0kb/s

0:35.757 H323 Cleaner RTP Releasing session 1

0:35.757 H323 Cleaner H323 Bandwidth request: -64.0kb/s, available:
9872.0kb/s

0:35.758 H323 Cleaner RTP Releasing session 1

0:35.758 H323 Cleaner RTP Deleting session 1

0:35.759 H323 Cleaner RTP Removing jitter buffer

0:35.759 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 1, Shutting down read.

0:35.760 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 1, Shutting down write.

0:35.760 H323 Cleaner RTP Final statistics:

packetsSent = 48

octetsSent = 11520

averageSendTime = 0

maximumSendTime = 0

minimumSendTime = 0

packetsReceived = 0

octetsReceived = 0

packetsLost = 0

packetsTooLate = 0

packetsOutOfOrder = 0

averageReceiveTime= 0

maximumReceiveTime= 0

minimumReceiveTime= 0

jitter = 0

0:35.762 H323 Cleaner H323 Bandwidth request: -64.0kb/s, available:
9936.0kb/s

0:35.763 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close

0:36.625 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTermination for
H245:8259dd0

0:36.625 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close

0:36.626 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTermination for H225
Answer:82595c8

0:36.626 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 terminated.

0:37.647 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1

0:38.010 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLimits. 160x120 --
352x288

0:38.216 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLimits. 160x120 --
352x288

0:38.353 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeeded for
converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P

0:38.354 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLimits. 160x120 --
352x288

0:38.354 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

0:38.497 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

0:38.766 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>

0:38.766 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>

0:38.767 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15k{sw} <3>

0:38.767 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k{sw} <4>

0:38.767 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>

0:38.768 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>

0:38.768 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:38.769 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <8>

0:38.769 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:38.770 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>

0:38.771 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 deleted.

0:38.771 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

0:38.772 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

4:04.626 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

4:06.814 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

4:06.815 H323 Cleaner H323 Stopped cleaner thread

4:06.815 gnomemeeting H323 Cleaning up connections

4:06.816 gnomemeeting H323 Deleted endpoint.

---------------------------------------

Funny stuff is that when Gnomemeeting says communication ended by remote
user, the guy I was connected with said his Netmeeting didn't notice the
connection dropped. After about 5 minutes of him waiting to see if finally
Netmeeting realises connection broke, he gave up and closed the connection
himself.

Hope it helps.


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OK, 

I see potential problems in the log :

> 0:29.120 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Set remote application name: "Microsoft®
> NetMeeting® 2.11 181/21324"
> 
Try to use Netmeeting 3.01 at least. I think NM 2.00 will never work,
I'm not even sure it fully respects H.323

> 0:31.699 H245:8259dd0 H323 Selecting G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>
> 

Not a good codec in terms of bandwidth, your friend should install
MS-GSM for Netmeeting (see gnomemeeting.org for details).


> 0:33.969 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Sending open logical channel ACK: sessionID=1
> 
> /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
> 

That could be the source of the problems. The audio device can be opened
for recording, but not for playing what he sends you, in consequence,
the logical channel will be closed or will not be opened and Netmeeting
will clear the connection. You didn't mention me that detail in your
previous mails, but a popup should appear ;)

In clear words, either your soundcard is not full-duplex, or your driver
is not ALSA... Switch to ALSA, and I think it should work.

> 0:35.536 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Clearing connection
> ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 reason=EndedByRemoteUser
> 
> 0:35.537 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Call end reason for
> ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 set to EndedByRemoteUser
> 

> Funny stuff is that when Gnomemeeting says communication ended by remote
> user, the guy I was connected with said his Netmeeting didn't notice the
> connection dropped. After about 5 minutes of him waiting to see if finally
> Netmeeting realises connection broke, he gave up and closed the connection
> himself.

Funny the log indicates that Netmeeting sent a "Clearing" message and
dropped the connection just after.
-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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muahaha. cool. :) :) :)

We had same prob with Netmeeting 3.01 so that is why he downgraded (in hope
it would work).  I didn't bother to install the MS-GSM as it was a video
prob. He had it installed on 3.01 and still same probs. Now I will probably
ask him to install it again.

BTW, I see the log message (missed it before) and I still wonder why does it
happen only when he connects video... :/ Without him sending video we can
stay connected for as much as we want...

And I do have alsa installed. It is an onboard soundcard from the AC97
series. i.e.:
above snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0

I will try to disable the sound on board and install a new soundcard and see
if that helps. Maybe also upgrade alsa...
ALSA sound driver (version 0.9.0rc2)

Thx for the help. I will let you  know if things get better. :)

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> OK,
>
> I see potential problems in the log :
>
> > 0:29.120 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Set remote application name:
"Microsoft®
> > NetMeeting® 2.11 181/21324"
> >
> Try to use Netmeeting 3.01 at least. I think NM 2.00 will never work,
> I'm not even sure it fully respects H.323
>
> > 0:31.699 H245:8259dd0 H323 Selecting G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>
> >
>
> Not a good codec in terms of bandwidth, your friend should install
> MS-GSM for Netmeeting (see gnomemeeting.org for details).
>
>
> > 0:33.969 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Sending open logical channel ACK:
sessionID=1
> >
> > /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
> >
>
> That could be the source of the problems. The audio device can be opened
> for recording, but not for playing what he sends you, in consequence,
> the logical channel will be closed or will not be opened and Netmeeting
> will clear the connection. You didn't mention me that detail in your
> previous mails, but a popup should appear ;)
>
> In clear words, either your soundcard is not full-duplex, or your driver
> is not ALSA... Switch to ALSA, and I think it should work.
>
> > 0:35.536 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Clearing connection
> > ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 reason=EndedByRemoteUser
> >
> > 0:35.537 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Call end reason for
> > ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 set to EndedByRemoteUser
> >
>
> > Funny stuff is that when Gnomemeeting says communication ended by remote
> > user, the guy I was connected with said his Netmeeting didn't notice the
> > connection dropped. After about 5 minutes of him waiting to see if
finally
> > Netmeeting realises connection broke, he gave up and closed the
connection
> > himself.
>
> Funny the log indicates that Netmeeting sent a "Clearing" message and
> dropped the connection just after.
> --
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oh... almost forgot... I have some other logs which don't have that
/device/sound/dsp device busy when connection breaks... Are you sure that's
the cause?
I am going to try changing the soundcard anyway as I don't have anything to
lose, but wanted to make sure I am on the right way... :)


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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 00:34, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> oh... almost forgot... I have some other logs which don't have that
> /device/sound/dsp device busy when connection breaks... Are you sure that's
> the cause?

No, we can't be sure.
I'm just sure that Netmeeting is the cause, unfortunately, and that
Netmeeting is not opensource, so there is not much we can do about it...

Perhaps try to start video from the beginning, not during the call, I'm
not sure GnomeMeeting deals correctly with that, I never tried. 

> I am going to try changing the soundcard anyway as I don't have anything to
> lose, but wanted to make sure I am on the right way... :)
> 
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We tried with video send enabled and it didn't help. The only thing which
appears in all logs before dropping the connection is:

0:34.801 LogChanRx:829fb50 RTP First data: ver=2 pt=H261 psz=1055 m=0 x=0
seq=20294 ts=84009240 src=3786174224 ccnt=0

0:34.802 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 84009240

0:34.802 LogChanRx:829fb50 H261 Detected loss of one video packet. 2 !=
20294 Will recover.

0:34.804 LogChanRx:829fb50 H245 Sending PDU: command miscellaneousCommand

0:34.806 LogChanRx:829fb50 H261 Lost or out of order packet, using values
from H261 header

0:34.810 LogChanRx:829fb50 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

0:35.053 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 84033540

0:35.063 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:35.063 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:35.217 LogChanTx:8264488 H323RTP Transmitter sent timestamp 18018

0:35.333 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 84057930

0:35.535 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Receiving PDU: releaseComplete

0:35.535 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Handling PDU: ReleaseComplete
callRef=26496

0:35.536 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Clearing connection
ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 reason=EndedByRemoteUser

0:35.537 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Call end reason for
ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 set to EndedByRemoteUser

------------------------ end of partial log 1 --------------

11:33.365 LogChanRx:82700b8 RTP First data: ver=2 pt=H261 psz=931 m=0 x=0
seq=34385 ts=44911890 src=1622867419 ccnt=0

11:33.366 LogChanRx:82700b8 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 44911890

11:33.366 LogChanRx:82700b8 H261 Detected loss of one video packet. 2 !=
34385 Will recover.

11:33.367 LogChanRx:82700b8 H245 Sending PDU: command miscellaneousCommand

11:33.369 LogChanRx:82700b8 H261 Lost or out of order packet, using values
from H261 header

11:33.397 LogChanRx:82700b8 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

11:33.423 LogChanTx:82c2b38 RTP Transmit statistics: packets=901
octets=216240 avgTime=30 maxTime=47 minTime=0

11:33.558 H225 Answer:82c0d78 H225 Receiving PDU: releaseComplete

11:33.560 H225 Answer:82c0d78 H225 Handling PDU: ReleaseComplete
callRef=11472

11:33.560 H225 Answer:82c0d78 H323 Clearing connection
ip$217.82.7.44:4588/11472 reason=EndedByRemoteUser

11:33.561 H225 Answer:82c0d78 H323 Call end reason for
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I am wondering what happens when video packets get lost... :/ What does
gnomemeeting do in such case?

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> Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 00:34, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> > oh... almost forgot... I have some other logs which don't have that
> > /device/sound/dsp device busy when connection breaks... Are you sure
that's
> > the cause?
>
> No, we can't be sure.
> I'm just sure that Netmeeting is the cause, unfortunately, and that
> Netmeeting is not opensource, so there is not much we can do about it...
>
> Perhaps try to start video from the beginning, not during the call, I'm
> not sure GnomeMeeting deals correctly with that, I never tried.
>
> > I am going to try changing the soundcard anyway as I don't have anything
to
> > lose, but wanted to make sure I am on the right way... :)
> >
> --
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>
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> 
> I am wondering what happens when video packets get lost... :/ What does
> gnomemeeting do in such case?

It tries to recover, but I can assure you it is not asking to the remote
to cut the connection.

Your problem is very weird, I also mailed Equivalence (the OpenH323
authors) about it, and they confirm it is weird, but can't really help
more than I am. Perhaps you could try with an XP machine on your LAN to
see if it happens. I personally only have Millenium on my laptop for
testing.
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Shucks... I don't have any XP machine (only Linux firewall, Win2k and
win98SE)... and he also tried with win98SE and same thing... :/ I will
also try again with the win98SE in my lan and move the camera to that
PC. Since connection dropping happens only when Netmeeting is sending
video I guess I can test without a camera on Gnomemeeting (I have only
one webcam).

Can it be that somehow Netmeeting waits for some aknowledgement of
received packet and "doesn't like" the answer it gets from Gnomemeeting
or doesn't fer any answer about the lost packet(s) and decides to close
the connection?

Is there any way I he can start Netmeeting with some debug info so we
can see what happens? Or is there any simple way to make a packetdump
on his PC and try to work it out from there? I say "simple" cause he
isn't programmer and he might have probs if procedure is too
complicated... Unfortunatelly he is about 300Km away from me and I
won't be able to go and see what the heck he is doing there for a
looooong time...

I saw that at least for Netmeeting 3.01 there is a SDK. I am a
programmer but it has been a long time since I used C/C++ and never
programed audio/video applications... Otherwise I would have tried to
look into the code myself and see if there is anything weird in
there... Is there anything in their SDK which could help trace the
prob?

BTW, where can I get the 0.95? Except CVS I didn't see any tarball or
such. Maybe I get better luck with 0.95... Where can I find a changelog
for 0.95 anyway?

Thx. for the help. If I can help in anyway you guys with the project
just let me know.

Damien Sandras schrieb:
> 
> > 
> > I am wondering what happens when video packets get
> lost... :/ What does
> > gnomemeeting do in such case?
> 
> It tries to recover, but I can assure you it is not
> asking to the remote
> to cut the connection.
> 
> Your problem is very weird, I also mailed Equivalence
> (the OpenH323
> authors) about it, and they confirm it is weird, but
> can't really help
> more than I am. Perhaps you could try with an XP machine
> on your LAN to
> see if it happens. I personally only have Millenium on my
> laptop for
> testing.
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> I am wondering what happens when video packets get lost... :/ What does
> gnomemeeting do in such case?
> 

I was just thinking to that... Packets loss can not influence the
connection as you only loose packets on reception, not on emission.
I only see 3 possibilities:
- something in Netmeeting XP that prevents it to work with something
else than Netmeeting 
- packet loss from you to him
- firewall problem on his side


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BTW, I saw in the logs (if I interpreted that right) that he sent video
in format H.261 QCIF. Is there a special decoder for H.261? What
package contains that thing (maybe upgrading that package might help)?

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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 10:30, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> Shucks... I don't have any XP machine (only Linux firewall, Win2k and
> win98SE)... and he also tried with win98SE and same thing... :/ I will

It works perfectly for many users in 98 and 2000.


> 
> Can it be that somehow Netmeeting waits for some aknowledgement of
> received packet and "doesn't like" the answer it gets from Gnomemeeting
> or doesn't fer any answer about the lost packet(s) and decides to close
> the connection?
> 

No, not possible, both respect the H.323 protocol, Equivalence has
tested his library a lot and the library is far more conform to H.323
than Netmeeting. Moreover, I know many users who have used GnomeMeeting
with Netmeeting since the beginning without any problem.

> Is there any way I he can start Netmeeting with some debug info so we
> can see what happens? Or is there any simple way to make a packetdump

No, no way that I know, but it doesn't mean it is not possible.

> on his PC and try to work it out from there? I say "simple" cause he

All we can get are raw packets, not very useful. The only thing that
could be useful would be if Netmeeting was telling why it disconnects.

> isn't programmer and he might have probs if procedure is too
> complicated... Unfortunatelly he is about 300Km away from me and I
> won't be able to go and see what the heck he is doing there for a
> looooong time...
> 
> I saw that at least for Netmeeting 3.01 there is a SDK. I am a
> programmer but it has been a long time since I used C/C++ and never
> programed audio/video applications... Otherwise I would have tried to
> look into the code myself and see if there is anything weird in
> there... Is there anything in their SDK which could help trace the
> prob?
> 

I'm a Linux programmer and have no clue about the Netmeeting SDK.
If you really want to communicate with him and think that the problem is
related to Netmeeting and not to his configuration, you can always try
OpenPhone : http://www.openh323.org/code.html#windows

> BTW, where can I get the 0.95? Except CVS I didn't see any tarball or
> such. Maybe I get better luck with 0.95... Where can I find a changelog
> for 0.95 anyway?

in CVS, 0.95 is not released yet. We have binary packages for Redhat 8
and Debian SID. Mail me privately if you want the URL (we can't publish
it on the mailing list for bandwidth reasons).


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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 10:34, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> BTW, I saw in the logs (if I interpreted that right) that he sent video
> in format H.261 QCIF. Is there a special decoder for H.261? What
> package contains that thing (maybe upgrading that package might help)?

H.261 is code from VIC (university of Columbian iirc) and is included in
OpenH323. That code is of good quality and pretty old and tested.
QCIF is only the size. It means small size.

I have one idea though, but it is purely hypothetical:
- it does work only if he is not sending video, ie if he is not sending
much data. Couldn't it be possible that his DSL is of extremely bad
quality and reduces downloads a lot when there is much upload? If so,
some packets sent by GnomeMeeting could be dropped and Netmeeting could
think the connection is broken. I know it works for other Netmeeting
users, but they are using H.263 which is using less bandwidth than
H.261, we can't include it in GM for legal reasons.
Tell him to watch his bandwidth and to reduce video quality.

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Cool. I always wondered if there is such a freeware proggie for Win32
and couldn't find any. :) Thx.

BTW in case probs arise also with OpenPhone, is there at least a way
for this app to get some debug info?

Damien Sandras schrieb:
> Le jeu 19/12/2002 =E0 10:30, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de
> a =E9crit :
> > Shucks... I don't have any XP machine (only Linux
> firewall, Win2k and
> > win98SE)... and he also tried with win98SE and same
> thing... :/ I will
>=20
> It works perfectly for many users in 98 and 2000.
>=20
>=20
> >=20
> > Can it be that somehow Netmeeting waits for some
> aknowledgement of
> > received packet and "doesn't like" the answer it gets
> from Gnomemeeting
> > or doesn't fer any answer about the lost packet(s) and
> decides to close
> > the connection?
> >=20
>=20
> No, not possible, both respect the H.323 protocol,
> Equivalence has
> tested his library a lot and the library is far more
> conform to H.323
> than Netmeeting. Moreover, I know many users who have
> used GnomeMeeting
> with Netmeeting since the beginning without any problem.
>=20
> > Is there any way I he can start Netmeeting with some
> debug info so we
> > can see what happens? Or is there any simple way to
> make a packetdump
>=20
> No, no way that I know, but it doesn't mean it is not
> possible.
>=20
> > on his PC and try to work it out from there? I say
> "simple" cause he
>=20
> All we can get are raw packets, not very useful. The only
> thing that
> could be useful would be if Netmeeting was telling why it
> disconnects.
>=20
> > isn't programmer and he might have probs if procedure
> is too
> > complicated... Unfortunatelly he is about 300Km away
> from me and I
> > won't be able to go and see what the heck he is doing
> there for a
> > looooong time...
> >=20
> > I saw that at least for Netmeeting 3.01 there is a SDK.
> I am a
> > programmer but it has been a long time since I used
> C/C++ and never
> > programed audio/video applications... Otherwise I would
> have tried to
> > look into the code myself and see if there is anything
> weird in
> > there... Is there anything in their SDK which could
> help trace the
> > prob?
> >=20
>=20
> I'm a Linux programmer and have no clue about the
> Netmeeting SDK.
> If you really want to communicate with him and think that
> the problem is
> related to Netmeeting and not to his configuration, you
> can always try
> OpenPhone : http://www.openh323.org/code.html#windows
>=20
> > BTW, where can I get the 0.95? Except CVS I didn't see
> any tarball or
> > such. Maybe I get better luck with 0.95... Where can I
> find a changelog
> > for 0.95 anyway?
>=20
> in CVS, 0.95 is not released yet. We have binary packages
> for Redhat 8
> and Debian SID. Mail me privately if you want the URL (we
> can't publish
> it on the mailing list for bandwidth reasons).
>=20
>=20
> --=20
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OK. I asked him to reduce the quality yesterday and he said he had no
clue how to do that after fondling with it for about 10 minutes.:)I
will try to see if I can figure it out and help him on that one. :)

Anyway, you might be right with the compression and bandwidth. So what
can I do to make gnomemeeting use H.263? Is there any way to install
such a codec on my linux machine and tell gnomemeeting to use it?

And if I install it, how can we make sure our communication goes over
H.263.


Damien Sandras schrieb:
> Le jeu 19/12/2002 =E0 10:34, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de
> a =E9crit :
> > BTW, I saw in the logs (if I interpreted that right)
> that he sent video
> > in format H.261 QCIF. Is there a special decoder for
> H.261? What
> > package contains that thing (maybe upgrading that
> package might help)?
>=20
> H.261 is code from VIC (university of Columbian iirc) and
> is included in
> OpenH323. That code is of good quality and pretty old and
> tested.
> QCIF is only the size. It means small size.
>=20
> I have one idea though, but it is purely hypothetical:
> - it does work only if he is not sending video, ie if he
> is not sending
> much data. Couldn't it be possible that his DSL is of
> extremely bad
> quality and reduces downloads a lot when there is much
> upload? If so,
> some packets sent by GnomeMeeting could be dropped and
> Netmeeting could
> think the connection is broken. I know it works for other
> Netmeeting
> users, but they are using H.263 which is using less
> bandwidth than
> H.261, we can't include it in GM for legal reasons.
> Tell him to watch his bandwidth and to reduce video
> quality.
>=20
> --=20
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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 10:44, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> Cool. I always wondered if there is such a freeware proggie for Win32
> and couldn't find any. :) Thx.
> 
> BTW in case probs arise also with OpenPhone, is there at least a way
> for this app to get some debug info?
> 

Yes, the same debug as with GnomeMeeting.
GnomeMeeting should be ported to windows too in the beginning of next
year (in 2003).
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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 10:48, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> OK. I asked him to reduce the quality yesterday and he said he had no
> clue how to do that after fondling with it for about 10 minutes.:)I
> will try to see if I can figure it out and help him on that one. :)
> 
> Anyway, you might be right with the compression and bandwidth. So what
> can I do to make gnomemeeting use H.263? Is there any way to install
> such a codec on my linux machine and tell gnomemeeting to use it?
> 
> And if I install it, how can we make sure our communication goes over
> H.263.
> 

No, I told you there were legal reasons why we can't add H.263 into
GnomeMeeting. 

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Argh... which starts me thinking about his MTU... Hmmm... We have a DSL
connection monitor from our provider so I will ask him to open it
during the connection and see upload and download rates.

Damien Sandras schrieb:
> I have one idea though, but it is purely hypothetical:
> - it does work only if he is not sending video, ie if he
> is not sending
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> some packets sent by GnomeMeeting could be dropped and
> Netmeeting could
> think the connection is broken. I know it works for other
> Netmeeting
> users, but they are using H.263 which is using less
> bandwidth than
> H.261, we can't include it in GM for legal reasons.
> Tell him to watch his bandwidth and to reduce video
> quality.
> 
> -- 
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He he. :)

I understood that, but you could make gnomemeeting be able to use
external codecs ( selected from options for ex.) and maybe someone
(thirdparty) would develop such a codec for linux. O:)

> No, I told you there were legal reasons why we can't add
> H.263 into
> GnomeMeeting. 
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adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de wrote:

>OK. I asked him to reduce the quality yesterday and he said he had no
>clue how to do that after fondling with it for about 10 minutes.:)I
>will try to see if I can figure it out and help him on that one. :)
>  
>

Adrien,

If you want to do some testing with other Netmeeting client ( other then
your friend's ) you can drop me an e-mail and I'll give you my ICQ number
(I hope you use it, if not, I'll tell you a way to use it without 
installing a client),
and you can call me and test all you need .
I'm used to work with netmeeting and I use it a lot with my brother ( 
from Portugal
to Netherlands - Cable to ADSL ).
I use W2K Professional on Cable and a Vigor Router .

Happy season Greetings to all !

João Pedro

jpedro.vf@netcabo.pt



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Sorry to be persistant :) , but...=20
A quick search revealed the following:

XAnim seems to be having/using the H.263 codec.

http://xanim.va.pubnix.com/xa_copylic.html

And there is one more decoder:

http://www-mobile.ecs.soton.ac.uk/peter/robust-h263/robust.html

If I install any of the above do I also get a codec installed? And if
so, is there any way to tell Gnomemeeting to use it (in config files or
such)?

Damien Sandras schrieb:
> Le jeu 19/12/2002 =E0 10:48, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de
> a =E9crit :
> > OK. I asked him to reduce the quality yesterday and he
> said he had no
> > clue how to do that after fondling with it for about 10
> minutes.:)I
> > will try to see if I can figure it out and help him on
> that one. :)
> >=20
> > Anyway, you might be right with the compression and
> bandwidth. So what
> > can I do to make gnomemeeting use H.263? Is there any
> way to install
> > such a codec on my linux machine and tell gnomemeeting
> to use it?
> >=20
> > And if I install it, how can we make sure our
> communication goes over
> > H.263.
> >=20
>=20
> No, I told you there were legal reasons why we can't add
> H.263 into
> GnomeMeeting.=20
>=20
> --=20
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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 11:41, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> Sorry to be persistant :) , but... 
> A quick search revealed the following:
> 
> XAnim seems to be having/using the H.263 codec.
> 
> http://xanim.va.pubnix.com/xa_copylic.html
> 
> And there is one more decoder:
> 
> http://www-mobile.ecs.soton.ac.uk/peter/robust-h263/robust.html
> 
> If I install any of the above do I also get a codec installed? And if
> so, is there any way to tell Gnomemeeting to use it (in config files or
> such)?

You can code it in OpenH323. There is no magic like you seem to believe
it...


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Thx. That might prove usefull as my friend tends to lose his patience
prety quick when we test and gives up. So I cannot test all the
possible things. :)

I will contact you as soon as he gives up testing again. :)

And BTW I don't have ICQ.

Jo=E3o Pedro schrieb:
> adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de wrote:
>=20
> >OK. I asked him to reduce the quality yesterday and he
> said he had no
> >clue how to do that after fondling with it for about 10
> minutes.:)I
> >will try to see if I can figure it out and help him on
> that one. :)
> > =20
> >
>=20
> Adrien,
>=20
> If you want to do some testing with other Netmeeting
> client ( other then
> your friend's ) you can drop me an e-mail and I'll give
> you my ICQ number
> (I hope you use it, if not, I'll tell you a way to use it
> without=20
> installing a client),
> and you can call me and test all you need .
> I'm used to work with netmeeting and I use it a lot with
> my brother (=20
> from Portugal
> to Netherlands - Cable to ADSL ).
> I use W2K Professional on Cable and a Vigor Router .
>=20
> Happy season Greetings to all !
>=20
> Jo=E3o Pedro
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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 11:52, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> Thx. That might prove usefull as my friend tends to lose his patience
> prety quick when we test and gives up. So I cannot test all the
> possible things. :)
> 
> I will contact you as soon as he gives up testing again. :)
> 
> And BTW I don't have ICQ.
> 

I think that even if your friend doesn't loose his patience, it is a
very good test that you have to do because it will permit to determine
if :
- the problem is on your side (it doesn't work with Joao either)
- the problem is on his side (it does work with Joao)

Don't be shy ;)
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I guess you are right. Anyway, I will try to conduct first some local
tests again this afternoon when I get home from work. I updated almost
all the packages I could find in newer version related to this problem
for my distribution (alsa, pwlib, xpm, etc) so I wanna see if it still
works at least local after all this. :D

I already bought some cheap duplex souncard (which I know is supported
by my distro) to try if all else fails and another networkcard for my
win2k PC to see if a win32<->win32 connection works. Now I just hope I
don't have to also buy another webcam to be able to fully test. :) BTW,
is there a list of cams which have support included in the kernel
(2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to buy
another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)

And you just gave me an idea with your previous email. I found some
other linux proggies which use H.263. If I get depresive enough about
it I might look into their sources and try to copy the code to
Gnomemeeting and see if it works. That is if I remember the needed
stuff from the time I coded C/C++. :D

BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)

Damien Sandras schrieb:
> Le jeu 19/12/2002 =E0 11:52, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de
> a =E9crit :
> > Thx. That might prove usefull as my friend tends to
> lose his patience
> > prety quick when we test and gives up. So I cannot test
> all the
> > possible things. :)
> >=20
> > I will contact you as soon as he gives up testing
> again. :)
> >=20
> > And BTW I don't have ICQ.
> >=20
>=20
> I think that even if your friend doesn't loose his
> patience, it is a
> very good test that you have to do because it will permit
> to determine
> if :
> - the problem is on your side (it doesn't work with Joao
> either)
> - the problem is on his side (it does work with Joao)
>=20
> Don't be shy ;)
> --=20
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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 12:11, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :

> (2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to buy
> another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)
> 

Philips-chipset based cameras (Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000, Philips
ToUCAM Pro) are the best: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/


> 
> BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)
> 

In a few months if everything goes well, I'm not doing the port myself
as I don't like window$ ;)



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Hi,

On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de wrote:

> Thx. That might prove usefull as my friend tends to lose his patience
> prety quick when we test and gives up. So I cannot test all the

use vnc to control his computer :-) and do tests


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lol. try to vnc on 2 ADSL conenction with 128Kb/s upload a piece and
let me know if you have any bandwidth left for videoconferencing. :D

Carles Pina i Estany schrieb:
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> On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de
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> > Thx. That might prove usefull as my friend tends to
> lose his patience
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> all the
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> use vnc to control his computer :-) and do tests
> 
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Hi,

On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de wrote:

> lol. try to vnc on 2 ADSL conenction with 128Kb/s upload a piece and
> let me know if you have any bandwidth left for videoconferencing. :D

yes, I know because I have test it :-)

but to do the test is enough :-)

try with openphone from windows, I think it is a good software

good luck


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> > On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de
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> > > Thx. That might prove usefull as my friend tends to
> > lose his patience
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> > all the
> >
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OK. I am trying to cotact Joao for the testing. In the meantime I tried to
connect to some random peeps which have netmeeting and got this in the debug
output:

-------------------
8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <10>

8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 RFC2833 Handler created

8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Created new connection: ip$local

host/7266

8:07.901 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Started call thread

8:08.149 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323TCP Started connection: host=24.50.

147.246:1503, if=80.134.254.176:30005, handle=31

8:08.150 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending Setup PDU

8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Check for Fast start by local en

dpoint

8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H245 Default OnSelectLogicalChannels,

FastStartDisabled

8:08.152 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: setup

8:08.153 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Reading PDUs: callRef=7266

8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Read error (104): Connection res

et by peer

8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost

/7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail

8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Call end reason for ip$localhost

/7266 set to EndedByTransportFail

8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending release complete PDU: ca

llRef=7266

8:08.412 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: releaseComplete

8:08.413 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Write PDU failed (32): Broken pi

pe

8:08.414 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost

/7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail

8:08.414 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 clo

sing: connectionState=AwaitingSignalConnect

8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close

8:08.416 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTerminat

ion for H225 Caller:82695d8

8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 H323Transport::Close

8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Signal channel closed.

8:08.433 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 ter

minated.

8:09.544 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1

8:09.894 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim

its. 160x120 -- 352x288

8:10.097 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim

its. 160x120 -- 352x288

8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeed

ed for converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P

8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim its. 160x120 --
352x288

8:10.239 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

8:10.385 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

8:10.594 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>

8:10.600 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>

8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15 k{sw} <3>

8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k {sw} <4>

8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>

8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>

8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k {sw} <7>

8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k {sw} <8>

8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>

8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 del eted.

8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

-------------------

what the heck is the localhost doing in there?!? except upgrading all
libraries and recompiling the kernel to suit my camera requirements I didn't
change anything. :/

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> Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 12:11, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
>
> > (2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to buy
> > another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)
> >
>
> Philips-chipset based cameras (Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000, Philips
> ToUCAM Pro) are the best: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
>
>
> >
> > BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)
> >
>
> In a few months if everything goes well, I'm not doing the port myself
> as I don't like window$ ;)
>
>
>
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From derek@indranet.co.nz  Thu Dec 19 16:25:33 2002
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Hi,
 I have no idea why sending video causes the windows XP machine to 
quit the call.

My first thought, are there any uses of GM who have been able to talk 
video and audio to a win XP machine?

However, reading the log provides some clues.

You can try changing the h261codec.cxx file so the h261 codec does not
send a miscellaneous command on detecting the loss of one video packet.


        PTRACE(3,"H261\tDetected loss of one video packet. "
          << lastSequenceNumber << " != "
          << frame.GetSequenceNumber() << " Will recover.");
        lastSequenceNumber = frame.GetSequenceNumber();
/***/   SendMiscCommand(H245_MiscellaneousCommand_type::e_lostPartialPicture);

Thus, 
 remove the line marked /****/

Recompile, and try it.

Thanks,
 Derek.



On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:

> OK. I am trying to cotact Joao for the testing. In the meantime I tried to
> connect to some random peeps which have netmeeting and got this in the debug
> output:
> 
> -------------------
> 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> 
> 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 RFC2833 Handler created
> 
> 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Created new connection: ip$local
> 
> host/7266
> 
> 8:07.901 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Started call thread
> 
> 8:08.149 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323TCP Started connection: host=24.50.
> 
> 147.246:1503, if=80.134.254.176:30005, handle=31
> 
> 8:08.150 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending Setup PDU
> 
> 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Check for Fast start by local en
> 
> dpoint
> 
> 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H245 Default OnSelectLogicalChannels,
> 
> FastStartDisabled
> 
> 8:08.152 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: setup
> 
> 8:08.153 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Reading PDUs: callRef=7266
> 
> 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Read error (104): Connection res
> 
> et by peer
> 
> 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> 
> /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> 
> 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Call end reason for ip$localhost
> 
> /7266 set to EndedByTransportFail
> 
> 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending release complete PDU: ca
> 
> llRef=7266
> 
> 8:08.412 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: releaseComplete
> 
> 8:08.413 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Write PDU failed (32): Broken pi
> 
> pe
> 
> 8:08.414 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> 
> /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> 
> 8:08.414 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> 
> 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 clo
> 
> sing: connectionState=AwaitingSignalConnect
> 
> 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close
> 
> 8:08.416 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTerminat
> 
> ion for H225 Caller:82695d8
> 
> 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 H323Transport::Close
> 
> 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Signal channel closed.
> 
> 8:08.433 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 ter
> 
> minated.
> 
> 8:09.544 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1
> 
> 8:09.894 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> 
> its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> 
> 8:10.097 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> 
> its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> 
> 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeed
> 
> ed for converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P
> 
> 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim its. 160x120 --
> 352x288
> 
> 8:10.239 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> 
> 8:10.385 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> 
> 8:10.594 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>
> 
> 8:10.600 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>
> 
> 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15 k{sw} <3>
> 
> 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k {sw} <4>
> 
> 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>
> 
> 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>
> 
> 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k {sw} <7>
> 
> 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k {sw} <8>
> 
> 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>
> 
> 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> 
> 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 del eted.
> 
> 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> 
> -------------------
> 
> what the heck is the localhost doing in there?!? except upgrading all
> libraries and recompiling the kernel to suit my camera requirements I didn't
> change anything. :/
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
> To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem
> 
> 
> > Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 12:11, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> >
> > > (2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to buy
> > > another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)
> > >
> >
> > Philips-chipset based cameras (Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000, Philips
> > ToUCAM Pro) are the best: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
> >
> >
> > >
> > > BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)
> > >
> >
> > In a few months if everything goes well, I'm not doing the port myself
> > as I don't like window$ ;)
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >  _ Damien Sandras
> > (o- GnomeMeeting: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
> > //\ FOSDEM 2003:  http://www.fosdem.org
> > v_/_
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> >
> >
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> 

-- 
Derek Smithies Ph.D.
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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 21:22, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> OK. I am trying to cotact Joao for the testing. In the meantime I tried to
> connect to some random peeps which have netmeeting and got this in the debug
> output:
> 

Do you mean that it failed with Joao ?
The log indicates "Connection reset by peer".
I wonder if your connection setup is correct, same for firewall rules.
I have no more clue about your problem and I think that you will have to
investigate for yourself. There is nothing more I can do, unfortunately,
for your problem remotely.
That log doesn't help, it says "Ended by transport fail", which is the
same kind of error as when you try to connect a down host.



> -------------------
> 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> 
> 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 RFC2833 Handler created
> 
> 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Created new connection: ip$local
> 
> host/7266
> 
> 8:07.901 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Started call thread
> 
> 8:08.149 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323TCP Started connection: host=24.50.
> 
> 147.246:1503, if=80.134.254.176:30005, handle=31
> 
> 8:08.150 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending Setup PDU
> 
> 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Check for Fast start by local en
> 
> dpoint
> 
> 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H245 Default OnSelectLogicalChannels,
> 
> FastStartDisabled
> 
> 8:08.152 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: setup
> 
> 8:08.153 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Reading PDUs: callRef=7266
> 
> 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Read error (104): Connection res
> 
> et by peer
> 
> 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> 
> /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> 
> 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Call end reason for ip$localhost
> 
> /7266 set to EndedByTransportFail
> 
> 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending release complete PDU: ca
> 
> llRef=7266
> 
> 8:08.412 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: releaseComplete
> 
> 8:08.413 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Write PDU failed (32): Broken pi
> 
> pe
> 
> 8:08.414 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> 
> /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> 
> 8:08.414 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> 
> 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 clo
> 
> sing: connectionState=AwaitingSignalConnect
> 
> 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close
> 
> 8:08.416 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTerminat
> 
> ion for H225 Caller:82695d8
> 
> 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 H323Transport::Close
> 
> 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Signal channel closed.
> 
> 8:08.433 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 ter
> 
> minated.
> 
> 8:09.544 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1
> 
> 8:09.894 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> 
> its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> 
> 8:10.097 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> 
> its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> 
> 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeed
> 
> ed for converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P
> 
> 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim its. 160x120 --
> 352x288
> 
> 8:10.239 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> 
> 8:10.385 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> 
> 8:10.594 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>
> 
> 8:10.600 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>
> 
> 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15 k{sw} <3>
> 
> 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k {sw} <4>
> 
> 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>
> 
> 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>
> 
> 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k {sw} <7>
> 
> 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k {sw} <8>
> 
> 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>
> 
> 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> 
> 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 del eted.
> 
> 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> 
> -------------------
> 
> what the heck is the localhost doing in there?!? except upgrading all
> libraries and recompiling the kernel to suit my camera requirements I didn't
> change anything. :/
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
> To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem
> 
> 
> > Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 12:11, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> >
> > > (2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to buy
> > > another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)
> > >
> >
> > Philips-chipset based cameras (Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000, Philips
> > ToUCAM Pro) are the best: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
> >
> >
> > >
> > > BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)
> > >
> >
> > In a few months if everything goes well, I'm not doing the port myself
> > as I don't like window$ ;)
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >  _ Damien Sandras
> > (o- GnomeMeeting: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
> > //\ FOSDEM 2003:  http://www.fosdem.org
> > v_/_
> > H.323 phone:  callto://ils.seconix.com/dsandras@seconix.com
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
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No it didn't fail with Joao as he didn't show up yet. And I was trying to
connect to random peeps from seconix server to see if I can do some testing.
:) I was just wondering why does it appear to try connecting to localhost.

Thx for your patience with me again. :)

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> Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 21:22, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> > OK. I am trying to cotact Joao for the testing. In the meantime I tried
to
> > connect to some random peeps which have netmeeting and got this in the
debug
> > output:
> >
>
> Do you mean that it failed with Joao ?
> The log indicates "Connection reset by peer".
> I wonder if your connection setup is correct, same for firewall rules.
> I have no more clue about your problem and I think that you will have to
> investigate for yourself. There is nothing more I can do, unfortunately,
> for your problem remotely.
> That log doesn't help, it says "Ended by transport fail", which is the
> same kind of error as when you try to connect a down host.
>
>
>
> > -------------------
> > 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> >
> > 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 RFC2833 Handler created
> >
> > 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Created new connection: ip$local
> >
> > host/7266
> >
> > 8:07.901 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Started call thread
> >
> > 8:08.149 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323TCP Started connection: host=24.50.
> >
> > 147.246:1503, if=80.134.254.176:30005, handle=31
> >
> > 8:08.150 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending Setup PDU
> >
> > 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Check for Fast start by local en
> >
> > dpoint
> >
> > 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H245 Default OnSelectLogicalChannels,
> >
> > FastStartDisabled
> >
> > 8:08.152 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: setup
> >
> > 8:08.153 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Reading PDUs: callRef=7266
> >
> > 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Read error (104): Connection res
> >
> > et by peer
> >
> > 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> >
> > /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> >
> > 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Call end reason for ip$localhost
> >
> > /7266 set to EndedByTransportFail
> >
> > 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending release complete PDU: ca
> >
> > llRef=7266
> >
> > 8:08.412 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: releaseComplete
> >
> > 8:08.413 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Write PDU failed (32): Broken pi
> >
> > pe
> >
> > 8:08.414 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> >
> > /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> >
> > 8:08.414 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> >
> > 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 clo
> >
> > sing: connectionState=AwaitingSignalConnect
> >
> > 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close
> >
> > 8:08.416 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTerminat
> >
> > ion for H225 Caller:82695d8
> >
> > 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 H323Transport::Close
> >
> > 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Signal channel closed.
> >
> > 8:08.433 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 ter
> >
> > minated.
> >
> > 8:09.544 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1
> >
> > 8:09.894 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> >
> > its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> >
> > 8:10.097 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> >
> > its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> >
> > 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeed
> >
> > ed for converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P
> >
> > 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim its. 160x120 --
> > 352x288
> >
> > 8:10.239 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> >
> > 8:10.385 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> >
> > 8:10.594 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>
> >
> > 8:10.600 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>
> >
> > 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15 k{sw} <3>
> >
> > 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k {sw} <4>
> >
> > 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>
> >
> > 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>
> >
> > 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k {sw} <7>
> >
> > 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k {sw} <8>
> >
> > 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>
> >
> > 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> >
> > 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 del eted.
> >
> > 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> >
> > -------------------
> >
> > what the heck is the localhost doing in there?!? except upgrading all
> > libraries and recompiling the kernel to suit my camera requirements I
didn't
> > change anything. :/
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
> > To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem
> >
> >
> > > Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 12:11, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> > >
> > > > (2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to
buy
> > > > another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)
> > > >
> > >
> > > Philips-chipset based cameras (Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000, Philips
> > > ToUCAM Pro) are the best: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)
> > > >
> > >
> > > In a few months if everything goes well, I'm not doing the port myself
> > > as I don't like window$ ;)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >  _ Damien Sandras
> > > (o- GnomeMeeting: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
> > > //\ FOSDEM 2003:  http://www.fosdem.org
> > > v_/_
> > > H.323 phone:  callto://ils.seconix.com/dsandras@seconix.com
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> >
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Le ven 20/12/2002 à 00:38, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> No it didn't fail with Joao as he didn't show up yet. And I was trying to
> connect to random peeps from seconix server to see if I can do some testing.
> :) I was just wondering why does it appear to try connecting to localhost.
> 
> Thx for your patience with me again. :)
> 

Bad idea, many people on seconix are there with broken setups.

It is not trying to contact localhost, localhost is your machine, and
ip$localhost means 'local connection'.

-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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Joao do you read your emails? I am trying to contact you for some testing.

Or if anyone else wants to help test... But please someone who has
Netmeeting and succesfully connected with it in the past to a gnomemeeting.

Thx. in advance for the help.

----- Original Message -----
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> adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de wrote:
>
> >OK. I asked him to reduce the quality yesterday and he said he had no
> >clue how to do that after fondling with it for about 10 minutes.:)I
> >will try to see if I can figure it out and help him on that one. :)
> >
> >
>
> Adrien,
>
> If you want to do some testing with other Netmeeting client ( other then
> your friend's ) you can drop me an e-mail and I'll give you my ICQ number
> (I hope you use it, if not, I'll tell you a way to use it without
> installing a client),
> and you can call me and test all you need .
> I'm used to work with netmeeting and I use it a lot with my brother (
> from Portugal
> to Netherlands - Cable to ADSL ).
> I use W2K Professional on Cable and a Vigor Router .
>
> Happy season Greetings to all !
>
> João Pedro
>
> jpedro.vf@netcabo.pt
>
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From Pradeep.Kumar@med.ge.com  Fri Dec 20 14:52:39 2002
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Hi,
I want to use Gnomemeeting on my Red Hat 8.0 linux machine. I am
integrating my linux desktop
with the Windows Domain. So I have some doubts regarding this.

What are the features available with Gnomemeeting?
Can we do everything with Gnomemeeting, whatever we can do with MS
NetMeeting?
Is Whiteboard Sharing, File Trasfer, Application sharing possible with
Gnomemeeting?
Are there any problems with gnomemeeting in communicating with
NetMeeting Users?
What are the features that gnomemeeting lacks in comparison with
NetMeeting?


I would appreciate any sort of help on this. 

Thanks in advance for your help,

Regards,
S.Pradeep Kumar


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Le ven 20/12/2002 à 20:52, Kumar, Pradeep (MED, TCS) a écrit :
> Hi,
> I want to use Gnomemeeting on my Red Hat 8.0 linux machine. I am
> integrating my linux desktop
> with the Windows Domain. So I have some doubts regarding this.
> 
> What are the features available with Gnomemeeting?
> Can we do everything with Gnomemeeting, whatever we can do with MS
> NetMeeting?
> Is Whiteboard Sharing, File Trasfer, Application sharing possible with
> Gnomemeeting?
> Are there any problems with gnomemeeting in communicating with
> NetMeeting Users?
> What are the features that gnomemeeting lacks in comparison with
> NetMeeting?
> 
> 
> I would appreciate any sort of help on this. 
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help,
> 
> Regards,
> S.Pradeep Kumar

Did you by chance have a look at the faq?

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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hi
I have gone through the mailing list archives.
But I still have most of my doubts cleared.

Thanks and Regards
Pradeep

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Le ven 20/12/2002 =E0 20:52, Kumar, Pradeep (MED, TCS) a =E9crit :
> Hi,
> I want to use Gnomemeeting on my Red Hat 8.0 linux machine. I am
> integrating my linux desktop
> with the Windows Domain. So I have some doubts regarding this.
>=20
> What are the features available with Gnomemeeting?
> Can we do everything with Gnomemeeting, whatever we can do with MS
> NetMeeting?
> Is Whiteboard Sharing, File Trasfer, Application sharing possible =
with
> Gnomemeeting?
> Are there any problems with gnomemeeting in communicating with
> NetMeeting Users?
> What are the features that gnomemeeting lacks in comparison with
> NetMeeting?
>=20
>=20
> I would appreciate any sort of help on this.=20
>=20
> Thanks in advance for your help,
>=20
> Regards,
> S.Pradeep Kumar

Did you by chance have a look at the faq?

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In a few words:

- There is no T.120 in GnomeMeeting (application sharing, file
transfert)
- There should be no problem communicating with M$ users and most users
have no problem

For a detailed list of features that GnomeMeeting has and not
Netmeeting, or that Netmeeting has and not GnomeMeeting, you will have
to read the FAQ and try yourself and perhaps contribute back a document
about that. That is the power of OpenSource.

Le ven 20/12/2002 à 20:57, Kumar, Pradeep (MED, TCS) a écrit :
> hi
> I have gone through the mailing list archives.
> But I still have most of my doubts cleared.
> 
> Thanks and Regards
> Pradeep
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PUYDT Julien [mailto:julien.puydt@laposte.net]
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:55 PM
> To: 'gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org'
> Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Windows NetMeeting Vs Gnomemeeting
> 
> 
> Le ven 20/12/2002 à 20:52, Kumar, Pradeep (MED, TCS) a écrit :
> > Hi,
> > I want to use Gnomemeeting on my Red Hat 8.0 linux machine. I am
> > integrating my linux desktop
> > with the Windows Domain. So I have some doubts regarding this.
> > 
> > What are the features available with Gnomemeeting?
> > Can we do everything with Gnomemeeting, whatever we can do with MS
> > NetMeeting?
> > Is Whiteboard Sharing, File Trasfer, Application sharing possible with
> > Gnomemeeting?
> > Are there any problems with gnomemeeting in communicating with
> > NetMeeting Users?
> > What are the features that gnomemeeting lacks in comparison with
> > NetMeeting?
> > 
> > 
> > I would appreciate any sort of help on this. 
> > 
> > Thanks in advance for your help,
> > 
> > Regards,
> > S.Pradeep Kumar
> 
> Did you by chance have a look at the faq?
> 
> Snark on #gnomemeeting
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Hi List !

I'm not a network/firewall expert, so i forward here...

Matti

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Subject: GM 0.94 firewall security issues..
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:07:47 -0500
From: AG <agreen@bkaeg.org>
To: matthias@marksweb.de

Matti:

I noticed that GM FAQ doesn't explicityl list an IP address origin for
all GM/ILS server connections..

IOW, it appears that you just 'blindly' open the required ports ->
TCP ports 1720 and 30000-30010
UDP pors 5000:5003

I would like to setup some ipchains rules and I need to be sure that I
can verify traffic coming into those ports..

I'm old school and paranoid ;)

AG
"What you read today, will free you tomorrow" - ME
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Hi matti,

there are some points I don't understand.
> 
> I noticed that GM FAQ doesn't explicityl list an IP address origin for
> all GM/ILS server connections..

How should it be possible to define all possible IP addresses? Which one
does he mean?

> 
> IOW, it appears that you just 'blindly' open the required ports ->
> TCP ports 1720 and 30000-30010
> UDP pors 5000:5003
> 
> I would like to setup some ipchains rules and I need to be sure that I
> can verify traffic coming into those ports..

That really depends on his needings. With ipchains you can check the
packets for many aspects (source ip, destination ip and so on..), thus
we have to know what he wants to allow/reject.
He can verify packets, but how this works depends on his configuration.
We need more information!

> 
> I'm old school and paranoid ;)
> 
> AG
> "What you read today, will free you tomorrow" - ME
> http://bkaeg.org
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Hello, ...

I have a few questions about the docklet thingy.

I asked about it on the irc channel and matti sugested i ask about it
here.

Anyway, i am running gnomemeeting 0.94.1 on a debian/sid box, using
gnome 2. I was lead to believe that the docklet thingy would somehow
'dock' gnomemeeting in one of my panels or something such, especially
usefull if you run GM hidden. But when i toggle the docklet item in the
view entry, nothing special seem to happen. I don't see any changes on
both of my gnome 2 panels, so i guess the docklet doesn't work on
gnome2, right ?

Friendly,

Sven Luther

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Le sam 21/12/2002 à 23:17, Sven Luther a écrit :
> Anyway, i am running gnomemeeting 0.94.1 on a debian/sid box, using
> gnome 2. I was lead to believe that the docklet thingy would somehow
> 'dock' gnomemeeting in one of my panels or something such, especially
> usefull if you run GM hidden. But when i toggle the docklet item in the
> view entry, nothing special seem to happen. I don't see any changes on
> both of my gnome 2 panels, so i guess the docklet doesn't work on
> gnome2, right ?

Wrong ;)
Check :
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101791
You need to install the system_tray_applet in your panel, and that applet will dock 
the new docklet (called now "Status Icon" in the "Notification Area").

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Hi,

I've looked through the archives and can't see anyone else having this=20
problem.  I hope you can help.

I have installed Gnomemeeting 0.94.1 on a freshly installed Mandrake 9 li=
nux=20
machine. =20
I have a Trust SpaceC@m 300XS that is correctly recognised on the USB bus=
 and=20
the hotplug scripts appear to be doing their job ok. =20

Gnomemeeting displays local video on the first launch of the application,=
 but=20
when you have closed it and you re-launch it, I get no local video.  =20
Additionally, I can't actually close the application - it de-registers fr=
om=20
the ILS, but doesn't close properly.

Any help on this would be much appreciated.  I just bought my Dad a webca=
m for=20
Christmas and hoped we would be able to video-conference!

Thanks in advance,

Andrew

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Le dim 22/12/2002 à 19:31, Andrew Mulheirn a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I've looked through the archives and can't see anyone else having this 
> problem.  I hope you can help.
> 
> I have installed Gnomemeeting 0.94.1 on a freshly installed Mandrake 9 linux 
> machine.  
> I have a Trust SpaceC@m 300XS that is correctly recognised on the USB bus and 
> the hotplug scripts appear to be doing their job ok.  
> 
> Gnomemeeting displays local video on the first launch of the application, but 
> when you have closed it and you re-launch it, I get no local video.   

What do you get? An error?
Try to kill ESD. Mandrake has a bug that makes ESD spawn and ESD is
trying to open the video device.

You can also do an export ESD_NO_SPAWN=1 before launching GM.

> Additionally, I can't actually close the application - it de-registers from 
> the ILS, but doesn't close properly.
> 

It seems to indicate a driver bug.

> Any help on this would be much appreciated.  I just bought my Dad a webcam for 
> Christmas and hoped we would be able to video-conference!
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Andrew
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Some additional information:

I have set "noapic" on the append line of lilo.conf.

The camera works for a while on first launch but eventually, video freeze=
s. =20
Messages like "usb_control bulk_msg timeout" appear in the messages file.

Unloading and reloading the usb-uhci module seems to bring the video back=
=2E

I've heard there is an alternative uhci module - should I be using that?

Thanks and regards,

Andrew


On Sunday 22 Dec 2002 6:31 pm, Andrew Mulheirn wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've looked through the archives and can't see anyone else having this
> problem.  I hope you can help.
>
> I have installed Gnomemeeting 0.94.1 on a freshly installed Mandrake 9
> linux machine.
> I have a Trust SpaceC@m 300XS that is correctly recognised on the USB b=
us
> and the hotplug scripts appear to be doing their job ok.
>
> Gnomemeeting displays local video on the first launch of the applicatio=
n,
> but when you have closed it and you re-launch it, I get no local video.
> Additionally, I can't actually close the application - it de-registers =
from
> the ILS, but doesn't close properly.
>
> Any help on this would be much appreciated.  I just bought my Dad a web=
cam
> for Christmas and hoped we would be able to video-conference!
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Andrew


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Le dim 22/12/2002 à 20:38, Andrew Mulheirn a écrit :
> Some additional information:
> 

You didn't answer my previous mail where I was asking what you mean by
"doesn't work". Is there an error message?
Also try the tricks I gave you.

> I have set "noapic" on the append line of lilo.conf.
> 
> The camera works for a while on first launch but eventually, video freezes.  
> Messages like "usb_control bulk_msg timeout" appear in the messages file.
> 

I think that you have an USB or webcam driver bug.
I would suggest you to contact the driver author, we are not USB
experts. Perhaps he could try GnomeMeeting with his driver and see what
happens. If you have any feedback, please contribute it back here.

> Unloading and reloading the usb-uhci module seems to bring the video back.
> 
> I've heard there is an alternative uhci module - should I be using that?

You can try, I think there is uhci and ohci, and that there are 2
versions of uhci, but I can be wrong.


> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> On Sunday 22 Dec 2002 6:31 pm, Andrew Mulheirn wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've looked through the archives and can't see anyone else having this
> > problem.  I hope you can help.
> >
> > I have installed Gnomemeeting 0.94.1 on a freshly installed Mandrake 9
> > linux machine.
> > I have a Trust SpaceC@m 300XS that is correctly recognised on the USB bus
> > and the hotplug scripts appear to be doing their job ok.
> >
> > Gnomemeeting displays local video on the first launch of the application,
> > but when you have closed it and you re-launch it, I get no local video.
> > Additionally, I can't actually close the application - it de-registers from
> > the ILS, but doesn't close properly.
> >
> > Any help on this would be much appreciated.  I just bought my Dad a webcam
> > for Christmas and hoped we would be able to video-conference!
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Andrew
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
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Re-hello,

I try to compile GM CVS 2002-12-22 by myself on Debian unstable.

First, I found a list of dependances's packages by searching from the
gnomemeeting-cvs for Debian (cvs-20021205.deb) and I installed all of
them.

Then, I grabbed pwlib, openh323 from their cvs server, and
gnomemeeting-cvs-2002-12-22 from the download page. I put them under
the directory /opt.

For openh323, I applied the h261codec.cxx.patch.

Having all the sources, I started to compile pwlib, then openh323.
And I copied the *.so.* into /usr/lib. So far so good.

But for gnomemeeting, I cannot make the Makefile with autogen.sh.
If it's neccessary, here are all the messages generated by autogen.sh:

=========================

export PWLIBDIR=/opt/pwlib
export OPENH323DIR=/opt/openh323

dauphin:# ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --with-ptlib-includes=/opt/pwlib/include/ptlib --with-openh323-includes=/opt/openh323/include 

/usr/bin/gnome-autogen.sh
processing .
Creating ./aclocal.m4 ...
Running glib-gettextize...  Ignore non-fatal messages.
Copying file po/Makefile.in
Copying file po/Makefile.in.in

Please add the files
  codeset.m4 gettext.m4 glibc21.m4 iconv.m4 isc-posix.m4 lcmessage.m4
    progtest.m4
from the /usr/share/aclocal directory to your autoconf macro directory
or directly to your aclocal.m4 file.
You will also need config.guess and config.sub, which you can get from
ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/config/.

Making ./aclocal.m4 writable ...
Running intltoolize...
patching file po/Makefile.in.in
Hunk #1 succeeded at 21 (offset 7 lines).
Hunk #2 succeeded at 41 (offset 2 lines).
Hunk #3 succeeded at 94 with fuzz 2 (offset 2 lines).
Hunk #4 succeeded at 203 (offset -15 lines).
Hunk #5 succeeded at 214 (offset -15 lines).
Running libtoolize...
You should add the contents of `/usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4' to `aclocal.m4'.
Running aclocal -I /usr/share/aclocal/gnome2-macros  ...
aclocal: configure.in: 53: macro `AM_GCONF_SOURCE_2' not found in library
Running autoheader...
autoheader: error: AC_CONFIG_HEADERS not found in configure.in
Running automake --gnu  ...
configure.in: 9: required file `./config.h.in' not found
Running autoconf ...
Running ./configure --enable-maintainer-mode --enable-compile-warnings --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --with-ptlib-includes=/opt/pwlib/include/ptlib --with-openh323-includes=/opt/openh323/include ...
checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
./configure: line 1411: syntax error near unexpected token `gnomemeeting,'
./configure: line 1411: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'

dauphin:# 

=========================

No Makefile is generated.

Could somebody help me to correct these errors before continueing, please ?

Thanks in advance,

Truong

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Le dim 22/12/2002 à 23:37, Truong a écrit :

> checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
> ./configure: line 1411: syntax error near unexpected token `gnomemeeting,'
> ./configure: line 1411: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'
> 

Hard to tell without knowing what is line 1411 on your system.
I would suggest you to upgrade autoconf/automake.
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Damien Sandras wrote:

>Le dim 22/12/2002 à 23:37, Truong a écrit :
>
>  
>
>>checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
>>./configure: line 1411: syntax error near unexpected token `gnomemeeting,'
>>./configure: line 1411: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Hard to tell without knowing what is line 1411 on your system.
>I would suggest you to upgrade autoconf/automake.
>  
>
I run RH 8 , installed a lot a -devel packages as the program was 
conplaining, installed
from sources automake (GNU automake) 1.7.2,  autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.57,
ltmain.sh (GNU libtool) 1.4.3 (1.922.2.110 2002/10/23 01:39:54) and a 
few other
things and also get the :

./configure: line 1411: syntax error near unexpected token `gnomemeeting,'
./configure: line 1411: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'

Line 1411 at configure is only `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'

I also have a few other problems like :

Makefile.am:22: INSTALL_SCHEMAS does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at 
/usr/local/bin/automake lin
e 4352.
lib/Makefile.am:5: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
lib/Makefile.am:5:
lib/Makefile.am:5: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add 
`AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
lib/Makefile.am:5: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and `autoconf' again.
lib/Makefile.am: installing `./depcomp'
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not 
appear in AM
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AM_CONDITI
ONAL
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/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCXX does not 
appear in A
M_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in 
AM_CONDITI
ONAL
Running autoconf ...
configure.in:5: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE
      If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.
      See the Autoconf documentation.
configure.in:8: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_MAINTAINER_MODE
configure.in:9: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_CONFIG_HEADER
configure.in:11: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_INTLTOOL
configure.in:13: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PROG_LIBTOOL
configure.in:53: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_GCONF_SOURCE_2
configure.in:242: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PATH_SDL
configure.in:395: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_GLIB_GNU_GETTEXT
configure.in:427: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_CONDITIONAL

All this means that I have to run libtool, atomake and autoconf with 
special parameters
for configure from gnomemeeting to compile properly?
I know I could just ask for the corresponding gnomemeeting.rpm and 
install it but I'd like to
 get a litlle deeper into understanding how all this works in Linux ... 
if you can spare a few
minutes Damien ( I know the day only has 24hours ... ).

A merry Christmas and a hapy New Year to all !

João Pedro


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Le lun 23/12/2002 à 12:49, João Pedro a écrit :
> I run RH 8 , installed a lot a -devel packages as the program was 
> conplaining, installed
> from sources automake (GNU automake) 1.7.2,  autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.57,
> ltmain.sh (GNU libtool) 1.4.3 (1.922.2.110 2002/10/23 01:39:54) and a 
> few other
> things and also get the :
> 
> ./configure: line 1411: syntax error near unexpected token `gnomemeeting,'
> ./configure: line 1411: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'
> 
> Line 1411 at configure is only `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'
> 

My automake is 1.4. No idea about this, but all gnome programs are
compiled with automake 1.4, perhaps your automake is too new. If you
have time, you can contribute a patch, it is perhaps an API difference
between both versions.

> I also have a few other problems like :
> 
> configure.in:8: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_MAINTAINER_MODE
> configure.in:9: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_CONFIG_HEADER
> configure.in:11: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_INTLTOOL
> configure.in:13: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PROG_LIBTOOL
> configure.in:53: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_GCONF_SOURCE_2
> configure.in:242: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PATH_SDL
> configure.in:395: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_GLIB_GNU_GETTEXT
> configure.in:427: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_CONDITIONAL
> 


You need to install intltool, libtool, gettext, sdl, and gconf, + their
devel versions.

> All this means that I have to run libtool, atomake and autoconf with 
> special parameters
> for configure from gnomemeeting to compile properly?

No, you just need to install the devel packages so that the automake
macros are available in your sustem.

> I know I could just ask for the corresponding gnomemeeting.rpm and 
> install it but I'd like to
>  get a litlle deeper into understanding how all this works in Linux ... 
> if you can spare a few
> minutes Damien ( I know the day only has 24hours ... ).
> 
> A merry Christmas and a hapy New Year to all !
> 

Merry christmas and happy new year! :)
If you can compile GM from CVS, then you can consider yourself as an
expert ;))

> João Pedro
> 
> _______________________________________________
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% *** Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> wrote: ***
% Le dim 22/12/2002 =E0 23:37, Truong a =E9crit :
%=20
% > checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
% > ./configure: line 1411: syntax error near unexpected token `gnomemeetin=
g,'
% > ./configure: line 1411: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'
% >=20
%=20
% Hard to tell without knowing what is line 1411 on your system.

-------------------------
dauphin:# cd /opt/gm-20021222/
dauphin:# vim +1411 configure

AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)

-------------------------

Line 1411 in the configure file contents the same string as in the error.


% I would suggest you to upgrade autoconf/automake.


-------------------------
dauphin:# apt-cache policy automake1.4
automake1.4:
  Installed: 1:1.4-p6-5
  Candidate: 1:1.4-p6-5
  Version Table:
 *** 1:1.4-p6-5 0
        500 http://ftp.belnet.be testing/main Packages
        500 http://ftp.belnet.be unstable/main Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
  =20

dauphin:# apt-cache policy autoconf  =20
autoconf:
  Installed: 2.57-1
  Candidate: 2.57-1
  Version Table:
 *** 2.57-1 0
        500 http://ftp.belnet.be testing/main Packages
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        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
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        500 http://ftp.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be stable/main Packages

-------------------------
					   =20
automake (v1.4-p6) and autoconf (v2.57) are already upgraded.

Anyway..  "Joyeux No=EBl et Bonne Ann=E9e"

Just take a good time with the family.


--=20
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>
> there are some points I don't understand.
>>
>> I noticed that GM FAQ doesn't explicityl list an IP address origin for
>> all GM/ILS server connections..
>
> How should it be possible to define all possible IP addresses? Which
> one does he mean?

AG> IIRC, The old Netmeeting pkg req'd all clients to log into a central
AG> ULS. Does GM/ILS also work in this manner? If so, I would rather set up
AG> my firewall rules to allow traffic from this IP address only.
AG> For instance, I would simply use the IP address for ils.seconix.com and
AG> only allow traffic originating from this domain.

>>
>> IOW, it appears that you just 'blindly' open the required ports -> TCP
>> ports 1720 and 30000-30010
>> UDP pors 5000:5003
>>
>
> That really depends on his needings. With ipchains you can check the
> packets for many aspects (source ip, destination ip and so on..), thus
> we have to know what he wants to allow/reject.
> He can verify packets, but how this works depends on his configuration.
> We need more information!

AG> I'm using IP chains and I typically deny all traffic that I've not
AG> explicitly added to my rules. Hopefully, my statement above will help
AG> clarify my intentions. I do not simply wish to open my LAN to the world.




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Le lun 23/12/2002 à 23:26, AG a écrit :

> AG> IIRC, The old Netmeeting pkg req'd all clients to log into a central
> AG> ULS. Does GM/ILS also work in this manner? If so, I would rather set up

Yes, but it is not required, that is an option.

> AG> my firewall rules to allow traffic from this IP address only.
> AG> For instance, I would simply use the IP address for ils.seconix.com and
> AG> only allow traffic originating from this domain.
> 

Even if somebody is registered on ILS, he will always call you with his
own IP and not the ILS IP.



> AG> I'm using IP chains and I typically deny all traffic that I've not
> AG> explicitly added to my rules. Hopefully, my statement above will help
> AG> clarify my intentions. I do not simply wish to open my LAN to the world.
> 

Only allowing a given IP range to call you using ipchains, is (nearly)
like only allowing a given IP range to answer to your http requests.

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> > AG> I'm using IP chains and I typically deny all traffic that I've not
> > AG> explicitly added to my rules. Hopefully, my statement above will help
> > AG> clarify my intentions. I do not simply wish to open my LAN to the world.
> > 
> 
> Only allowing a given IP range to call you using ipchains, is (nearly)
> like only allowing a given IP range to answer to your http requests.
> 

Indeed, it is just a "danger" during a GnomeMeeting Session on your
workstation. If GnomeMeeting isn't running on the client, there is no
service which replies on requests (on port 1720). By the way, my last
sentence doesn't mean that it is immediately insecure if GnomeMeeting
runs, it would just be possible if there were some bugs.

You do not open the LAN to the world. What you have to do is
port-forwarding to only one client, thus the behaviour or security of
the rest is not influenced (you defined one destination).

There is one possibiliy to restrict the incoming requests: define and
allow all IP addresses which are allowed to phone you. But I would not
suggest you to use this one.

Cheers,
Matthias




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Hello,

First, I'm not an expert of Debian system and Gnomemeeting, but I'am a
very new fan of VoIP and VideoConference under GNU Linux. So if there is
any errors in the script attached, please give me corrections or
suggestions.

I would like to learn how to compile the gnomemeeting snapshots by
myself and I got many errors. Most of them are dued to missing
dependancies or tools, not because of the source itsself.

You will find small note, attached with this mail, of all the dependancy
packages under Debian before getting to build the GM-CVS. Hopefully, you
will be able to compile it successfully. But, please consider the GM
snapshot is unstable and do not complaint to the authors if GM-CVS has
crashed your system.

Many thanks (in alphabetical order) to Damien, Fabrice, Matthias, Matti,
Snark, and others on the channel irc.gnome.org #gnomemeeting =;)

Truong

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Thanks a lot for this contribution :)

I would also add that the CVS version can be compiled without gnome
support (you loose only some features), and that in this case, you need
less libraries.


Le mer 25/12/2002 à 00:59, Truong a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> First, I'm not an expert of Debian system and Gnomemeeting, but I'am a
> very new fan of VoIP and VideoConference under GNU Linux. So if there is
> any errors in the script attached, please give me corrections or
> suggestions.
> 
> I would like to learn how to compile the gnomemeeting snapshots by
> myself and I got many errors. Most of them are dued to missing
> dependancies or tools, not because of the source itsself.
> 
> You will find small note, attached with this mail, of all the dependancy
> packages under Debian before getting to build the GM-CVS. Hopefully, you
> will be able to compile it successfully. But, please consider the GM
> snapshot is unstable and do not complaint to the authors if GM-CVS has
> crashed your system.
> 
> Many thanks (in alphabetical order) to Damien, Fabrice, Matthias, Matti,
> Snark, and others on the channel irc.gnome.org #gnomemeeting =;)
> 
> Truong
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ummm... what means "without gnome support"? does it mean you can run it also
on KDE or what? if so, how can you compile it without gnome?

Merry X-Mas to all!

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Adrian Golumbovici
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> Thanks a lot for this contribution :)
>
> I would also add that the CVS version can be compiled without gnome
> support (you loose only some features), and that in this case, you need
> less libraries.
>
>
> Le mer 25/12/2002 à 00:59, Truong a écrit :
> > Hello,
> >
> > First, I'm not an expert of Debian system and Gnomemeeting, but I'am a
> > very new fan of VoIP and VideoConference under GNU Linux. So if there is
> > any errors in the script attached, please give me corrections or
> > suggestions.
> >
> > I would like to learn how to compile the gnomemeeting snapshots by
> > myself and I got many errors. Most of them are dued to missing
> > dependancies or tools, not because of the source itsself.
> >
> > You will find small note, attached with this mail, of all the dependancy
> > packages under Debian before getting to build the GM-CVS. Hopefully, you
> > will be able to compile it successfully. But, please consider the GM
> > snapshot is unstable and do not complaint to the authors if GM-CVS has
> > crashed your system.
> >
> > Many thanks (in alphabetical order) to Damien, Fabrice, Matthias, Matti,
> > Snark, and others on the channel irc.gnome.org #gnomemeeting =;)
> >
> > Truong
> --
> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
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Le mer 25/12/2002 à 12:48, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> ummm... what means "without gnome support"? does it mean you can run it also
> on KDE or what? if so, how can you compile it without gnome?
> 
> Merry X-Mas to all!
> 

GnomeMeeting already runs on KDE and has several KDE users despite its
name. 
All it does is reimplementing things in gnome libraries in pure GTK
(menus for example). Compiling without gnome support means that you
don't need all gnome libraries to compile GnomeMeeting, only GTK+,
GConf, SDL (optional), libXML and OpenH323 are needed. Of course, you
loose GNOME specific features :
- Configuration assistant
- GNOME session support
- BONOBO support (you can currently do a gnomemeeting -c callto://url,
it will start and call the right url or pass the url to an already
running GnomeMeeting)
- About box

But you need a few libraries less. We will always provide GNOME
dependant packages, but anti-GNOME KDE users can compile GM without them
and have less features.

Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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so do you have to pass a parameter or edit something to compile without
gnome support?

Best regards,
Adrian Golumbovici
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> Le mer 25/12/2002 à 12:48, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> > ummm... what means "without gnome support"? does it mean you can run it
also
> > on KDE or what? if so, how can you compile it without gnome?
> >
> > Merry X-Mas to all!
> >
>
> GnomeMeeting already runs on KDE and has several KDE users despite its
> name.
> All it does is reimplementing things in gnome libraries in pure GTK
> (menus for example). Compiling without gnome support means that you
> don't need all gnome libraries to compile GnomeMeeting, only GTK+,
> GConf, SDL (optional), libXML and OpenH323 are needed. Of course, you
> loose GNOME specific features :
> - Configuration assistant
> - GNOME session support
> - BONOBO support (you can currently do a gnomemeeting -c callto://url,
> it will start and call the right url or pass the url to an already
> running GnomeMeeting)
> - About box
>
> But you need a few libraries less. We will always provide GNOME
> dependant packages, but anti-GNOME KDE users can compile GM without them
> and have less features.
>
> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
>
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list


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> so do you have to pass a parameter or edit something to compile without
> gnome support?

./configure --without-gnome <your other flags>

>
> Best regards,
> Adrian Golumbovici
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
> To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 1:05 PM
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>> Le mer 25/12/2002 à 12:48, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
>> > ummm... what means "without gnome support"? does it mean you can run
>> it
> also
>> > on KDE or what? if so, how can you compile it without gnome?
>> >
>> > Merry X-Mas to all!
>> >
>>
>> GnomeMeeting already runs on KDE and has several KDE users despite its
>> name.
>> All it does is reimplementing things in gnome libraries in pure GTK
>> (menus for example). Compiling without gnome support means that you
>> don't need all gnome libraries to compile GnomeMeeting, only GTK+,
>> GConf, SDL (optional), libXML and OpenH323 are needed. Of course, you
>> loose GNOME specific features :
>> - Configuration assistant
>> - GNOME session support
>> - BONOBO support (you can currently do a gnomemeeting -c callto://url,
>> it will start and call the right url or pass the url to an already
>> running GnomeMeeting)
>> - About box
>>
>> But you need a few libraries less. We will always provide GNOME
>> dependant packages, but anti-GNOME KDE users can compile GM without
>> them and have less features.
>>
>> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
>>
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hi,

I use gnomeeting from debian testing/sid

carles@pinux:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i gnomemeeting
ii  gnomemeeting   0.94.1-1       H323 Compatible Netmeeting clone for the
Gno
carles@pinux:~$

And, after a few minutes of use video for receiving:

(gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289
(g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289
(g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1307
(g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1325
(g_object_get_qdata): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(gnomemeeting:27849): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkcolor.c: line 61
(gdk_colormap_get_visual): assertion `GDK_IS_COLORMAP (colormap)' failed
carles@pinux:~$


I don't know if this is a problem with gnomemeeting or some libraries. But
it's possible that somebody knows anything :-)

I have the programs and libraries updated.

I test it with a netmeeting or with a windows ohphone.

Thank you very much.

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	Di NO a la droga, somos muchos y hay poca.



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The place to look for such things is bugzilla.
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98179 describes your bug,
shows a backtrace and indicates that the bug was fixed in CVS on 12
november, ie 2 months ago.

I think (but it was never confirmed) that hiding the statistics part is
enough to prevent the bug to appear.

Le mer 25/12/2002 à 19:11, Carles Pina i Estany a écrit :
> hi,
> 
> I use gnomeeting from debian testing/sid
> 
> carles@pinux:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i gnomemeeting
> ii  gnomemeeting   0.94.1-1       H323 Compatible Netmeeting clone for the
> Gno
> carles@pinux:~$
> 
> And, after a few minutes of use video for receiving:
> 
> (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289
> (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> 
> (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289
> (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> 
> (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1307
> (g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> 
> (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1325
> (g_object_get_qdata): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> 
> (gnomemeeting:27849): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkcolor.c: line 61
> (gdk_colormap_get_visual): assertion `GDK_IS_COLORMAP (colormap)' failed
> carles@pinux:~$
> 
> 
> I don't know if this is a problem with gnomemeeting or some libraries. But
> it's possible that somebody knows anything :-)
> 
> I have the programs and libraries updated.
> 
> I test it with a netmeeting or with a windows ohphone.
> 
> Thank you very much.
-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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Hi,

Ok, thanks very much

The next bug I will use bugzilla :-)

two weeks ago I compiled the CVS versions but then it was other error
(libraries, "mea culpa")


On 25 Dec 2002, Damien Sandras wrote:

> The place to look for such things is bugzilla.
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D98179 describes your bug,
> shows a backtrace and indicates that the bug was fixed in CVS on 12
> november, ie 2 months ago.
>
> I think (but it was never confirmed) that hiding the statistics part is
> enough to prevent the bug to appear.
>
> Le mer 25/12/2002 =E0 19:11, Carles Pina i Estany a =E9crit :
> > hi,
> >
> > I use gnomeeting from debian testing/sid
> >
> > carles@pinux:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i gnomemeeting
> > ii  gnomemeeting   0.94.1-1       H323 Compatible Netmeeting clone for =
the
> > Gno
> > carles@pinux:~$
> >
> > And, after a few minutes of use video for receiving:
> >
> > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 12=
89
> > (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> >
> > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 12=
89
> > (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> >
> > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 13=
07
> > (g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> >
> > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 13=
25
> > (g_object_get_qdata): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> >
> > (gnomemeeting:27849): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkcolor.c: line 61
> > (gdk_colormap_get_visual): assertion `GDK_IS_COLORMAP (colormap)' faile=
d
> > carles@pinux:~$
> >
> >
> > I don't know if this is a problem with gnomemeeting or some libraries. =
But
> > it's possible that somebody knows anything :-)
> >
> > I have the programs and libraries updated.
> >
> > I test it with a netmeeting or with a windows ohphone.
> >
> > Thank you very much.
> --
> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
>
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
>

--=20
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we provide debian snapshots of CVS on
ftp://www.gnomemeeting.org/gnomemeeting-cvs

They should be stable...

Le mer 25/12/2002 à 20:59, Carles Pina i Estany a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> Ok, thanks very much
> 
> The next bug I will use bugzilla :-)
> 
> two weeks ago I compiled the CVS versions but then it was other error
> (libraries, "mea culpa")
> 
> 
> On 25 Dec 2002, Damien Sandras wrote:
> 
> > The place to look for such things is bugzilla.
> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98179 describes your bug,
> > shows a backtrace and indicates that the bug was fixed in CVS on 12
> > november, ie 2 months ago.
> >
> > I think (but it was never confirmed) that hiding the statistics part is
> > enough to prevent the bug to appear.
> >
> > Le mer 25/12/2002 à 19:11, Carles Pina i Estany a écrit :
> > > hi,
> > >
> > > I use gnomeeting from debian testing/sid
> > >
> > > carles@pinux:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i gnomemeeting
> > > ii  gnomemeeting   0.94.1-1       H323 Compatible Netmeeting clone for the
> > > Gno
> > > carles@pinux:~$
> > >
> > > And, after a few minutes of use video for receiving:
> > >
> > > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289
> > > (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> > >
> > > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289
> > > (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> > >
> > > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1307
> > > (g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> > >
> > > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1325
> > > (g_object_get_qdata): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> > >
> > > (gnomemeeting:27849): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkcolor.c: line 61
> > > (gdk_colormap_get_visual): assertion `GDK_IS_COLORMAP (colormap)' failed
> > > carles@pinux:~$
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't know if this is a problem with gnomemeeting or some libraries. But
> > > it's possible that somebody knows anything :-)
> > >
> > > I have the programs and libraries updated.
> > >
> > > I test it with a netmeeting or with a windows ohphone.
> > >
> > > Thank you very much.
> > --
> > Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> >
-- 
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Does anyone know of any good web cameras on the market right now that
are support by the stock Redhat 8 distro?

Also, do I need to setup a symlink to that USB camera from /dev/video0?

Thanks in advance!

Ryan


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I always suggest to buy camera based on the philips chipset.
Logitech Quickcam Pro 3000 and 4000 for example are excellent choices.

Le jeu 26/12/2002 à 21:57, Ryan Nix a écrit :
> Does anyone know of any good web cameras on the market right now that
> are support by the stock Redhat 8 distro?
> 
> Also, do I need to setup a symlink to that USB camera from /dev/video0?
> 

No, it should automatically work.

> Thanks in advance!
> 
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Damien Sandras wrote:
> I always suggest to buy camera based on the philips chipset.
> Logitech Quickcam Pro 3000 and 4000 for example are excellent choices.
> 

and so i bought one hehe,
but you should install the PWCX modules in additon. :)
at least if you don t like the video to be stamp sized.

btw i don t know for 4000, but 3000 works just fine, ryan :)

cheers,
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Hello,
I have a problem with the gnomemeeting,  to be honist I am a newbie with 
gnome products and I hope that I find someone how helps me.

The problem is the following:
I like to get gnomemeeting up and running to build up a connection from 
Germany to the USA.

For the moment I try to get this tool working between to Linux machines.
One is installed with SuSE7.3 and the other one with SuSE 8.0.
The used soundsystem is ALSA and I can hear the sound. E.G. kmidi is running.

The used webcam is a Philips 730k model.

When I start gnomemeeting the video connetction is working but I get no audio 
transmitted.
Both PCs are in the same subnet and no firewalls are active.
In the controlcenter the full duplex option is turned on.

And I still get the error message/warning that the system is not able to open 
the audio channel.

Thanks for the time reading this mail and I hope to find some help any idear 
or private discussion is welcomed.


Joerg Demtroeder


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Le ven 27/12/2002 à 10:53, Joerg Demtroeder a écrit :

> When I start gnomemeeting the video connetction is working but I get no audio 
> transmitted.

> And I still get the error message/warning that the system is not able to open 
> the audio channel.

Read the faq, and make sure you defined the good devices as in/out
devices...

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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Make sure that the module for your internal microphone is correctly
loaded, and that you chose this device in the preferences.
The sound channel being unable to open means that another program is
probably blocking the soundcard. Play with lsof or fuser to know which
one.

Le ven 27/12/2002 à 10:53, Joerg Demtroeder a écrit :
> Hello,
> I have a problem with the gnomemeeting,  to be honist I am a newbie with 
> gnome products and I hope that I find someone how helps me.
> 
> The problem is the following:
> I like to get gnomemeeting up and running to build up a connection from 
> Germany to the USA.
> 
> For the moment I try to get this tool working between to Linux machines.
> One is installed with SuSE7.3 and the other one with SuSE 8.0.
> The used soundsystem is ALSA and I can hear the sound. E.G. kmidi is running.
> 
> The used webcam is a Philips 730k model.
> 
> When I start gnomemeeting the video connetction is working but I get no audio 
> transmitted.
> Both PCs are in the same subnet and no firewalls are active.
> In the controlcenter the full duplex option is turned on.
> 
> And I still get the error message/warning that the system is not able to open 
> the audio channel.
> 
> Thanks for the time reading this mail and I hope to find some help any idear 
> or private discussion is welcomed.
> 
> 
> Joerg Demtroeder
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
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We have investigated the problem and it appears that when Netmeeting for
XP connects to GnomeMeeting, and only when Netmeeting is sending video,
it disconnects after a few seconds. The problem is due to a bug in
Netmeeting XP, but there is a workaround (thanks Derek for finding
this):
- Remove SendMiscCommand in openh323/src/h261codec.cxx
- Recompile
or wait for the next release of OpenH323/GnomeMeeting

That fixes the problem.

Le ven 20/12/2002 à 00:38, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> No it didn't fail with Joao as he didn't show up yet. And I was trying to
> connect to random peeps from seconix server to see if I can do some testing.
> :) I was just wondering why does it appear to try connecting to localhost.
> 
> Thx for your patience with me again. :)
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
> To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem
> 
> 
> > Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 21:22, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> > > OK. I am trying to cotact Joao for the testing. In the meantime I tried
> to
> > > connect to some random peeps which have netmeeting and got this in the
> debug
> > > output:
> > >
> >
> > Do you mean that it failed with Joao ?
> > The log indicates "Connection reset by peer".
> > I wonder if your connection setup is correct, same for firewall rules.
> > I have no more clue about your problem and I think that you will have to
> > investigate for yourself. There is nothing more I can do, unfortunately,
> > for your problem remotely.
> > That log doesn't help, it says "Ended by transport fail", which is the
> > same kind of error as when you try to connect a down host.
> >
> >
> >
> > > -------------------
> > > 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> > >
> > > 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 RFC2833 Handler created
> > >
> > > 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Created new connection: ip$local
> > >
> > > host/7266
> > >
> > > 8:07.901 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Started call thread
> > >
> > > 8:08.149 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323TCP Started connection: host=24.50.
> > >
> > > 147.246:1503, if=80.134.254.176:30005, handle=31
> > >
> > > 8:08.150 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending Setup PDU
> > >
> > > 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Check for Fast start by local en
> > >
> > > dpoint
> > >
> > > 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H245 Default OnSelectLogicalChannels,
> > >
> > > FastStartDisabled
> > >
> > > 8:08.152 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: setup
> > >
> > > 8:08.153 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Reading PDUs: callRef=7266
> > >
> > > 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Read error (104): Connection res
> > >
> > > et by peer
> > >
> > > 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> > >
> > > /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> > >
> > > 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Call end reason for ip$localhost
> > >
> > > /7266 set to EndedByTransportFail
> > >
> > > 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending release complete PDU: ca
> > >
> > > llRef=7266
> > >
> > > 8:08.412 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: releaseComplete
> > >
> > > 8:08.413 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Write PDU failed (32): Broken pi
> > >
> > > pe
> > >
> > > 8:08.414 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> > >
> > > /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> > >
> > > 8:08.414 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> > >
> > > 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 clo
> > >
> > > sing: connectionState=AwaitingSignalConnect
> > >
> > > 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close
> > >
> > > 8:08.416 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTerminat
> > >
> > > ion for H225 Caller:82695d8
> > >
> > > 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 H323Transport::Close
> > >
> > > 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Signal channel closed.
> > >
> > > 8:08.433 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 ter
> > >
> > > minated.
> > >
> > > 8:09.544 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1
> > >
> > > 8:09.894 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> > >
> > > its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> > >
> > > 8:10.097 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> > >
> > > its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> > >
> > > 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeed
> > >
> > > ed for converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P
> > >
> > > 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim its. 160x120 --
> > > 352x288
> > >
> > > 8:10.239 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> > >
> > > 8:10.385 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> > >
> > > 8:10.594 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>
> > >
> > > 8:10.600 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>
> > >
> > > 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15 k{sw} <3>
> > >
> > > 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k {sw} <4>
> > >
> > > 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>
> > >
> > > 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>
> > >
> > > 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k {sw} <7>
> > >
> > > 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k {sw} <8>
> > >
> > > 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>
> > >
> > > 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> > >
> > > 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 del eted.
> > >
> > > 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> > >
> > > -------------------
> > >
> > > what the heck is the localhost doing in there?!? except upgrading all
> > > libraries and recompiling the kernel to suit my camera requirements I
> didn't
> > > change anything. :/
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
> > > To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:25 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem
> > >
> > >
> > > > Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 12:11, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > > (2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to
> buy
> > > > > another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Philips-chipset based cameras (Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000, Philips
> > > > ToUCAM Pro) are the best: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a few months if everything goes well, I'm not doing the port myself
> > > > as I don't like window$ ;)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >  _ Damien Sandras
> > > > (o- GnomeMeeting: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
> > > > //\ FOSDEM 2003:  http://www.fosdem.org
> > > > v_/_
> > > > H.323 phone:  callto://ils.seconix.com/dsandras@seconix.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > > > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
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Thanks for your help,
for the moment the given answers creating more questions for me in the moment.
So please appoligize that I ask again.

The idear to check that the devices are not used is done lsof and fuser are 
reporting nothing on the devices for /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer.
Are these the right devices?
I also switched off the arts system from KDe and aktivated the system bell.

Is there a tool to check the audio Input?

Is it possible that the in the webcam included microphone producing the 
trouble?


Thanks again for your help


Am Freitag, 27. Dezember 2002 13:01 schrieben Sie:
> Le ven 27/12/2002 à 10:53, Joerg Demtroeder a écrit :
> > When I start gnomemeeting the video connetction is working but I get no
> > audio transmitted.
> >
> > And I still get the error message/warning that the system is not able to
> > open the audio channel.
>
> Read the faq, and make sure you defined the good devices as in/out
> devices...
>
> Snark on #gnomemeeting
>
> _______________________________________________
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> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list

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Le ven 27/12/2002 à 15:43, Joerg Demtroeder a écrit :
> Thanks for your help,
> for the moment the given answers creating more questions for me in the moment.
> So please appoligize that I ask again.
> 

This mailing list has been created to help users => no need to apology!
;)

> The idear to check that the devices are not used is done lsof and fuser are 
> reporting nothing on the devices for /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer.
> Are these the right devices?

/dev/dsp1 should be the device for the webcam internal microphone.
If it doesn't appear in the list, try to do a "modprobe audio" as root,
and restart GnomeMeeting.

> I also switched off the arts system from KDe and aktivated the system bell.
> 
> Is there a tool to check the audio Input?
> 

Not in GnomeMeeting 0.94.1 .
You can try cat /dev/dsp1 > /dev/dsp and talk in your cam microphone, if
you hear yourself, then the system is well-configured. If not, you have
a problem to identify and to solve.

> Is it possible that the in the webcam included microphone producing the 
> trouble?
> 

No, using it should solve all trouble.

> 
> Thanks again for your help
> 
> 
> Am Freitag, 27. Dezember 2002 13:01 schrieben Sie:
> > Le ven 27/12/2002 à 10:53, Joerg Demtroeder a écrit :
> > > When I start gnomemeeting the video connetction is working but I get no
> > > audio transmitted.
> > >
> > > And I still get the error message/warning that the system is not able to
> > > open the audio channel.
> >
> > Read the faq, and make sure you defined the good devices as in/out
> > devices...
> >
> > Snark on #gnomemeeting
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
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Hi,

	I am setting up video conferencing on my internal home network, and was 
wondering if anyone knew of MAC OS X based software that will 
interoperate with GnomeMeeting?  I have been looking for the last 
several days, and haven't run across anything yet.  Any help would be 
greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Andrig T. Miller


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In theory, you should be able to compile and make GnomeMeeting run on
Mac OS X. But you need things like XonX (I can be wrong, I never used
Mac OS X). If you are interested in trying, I will help you.

Le ven 27/12/2002 à 21:06, Andrig T. Miller a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> 	I am setting up video conferencing on my internal home network, and was 
> wondering if anyone knew of MAC OS X based software that will 
> interoperate with GnomeMeeting?  I have been looking for the last 
> several days, and haven't run across anything yet.  Any help would be 
> greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Andrig T. Miller
> 
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Hi,
 you could try CPhone, which is on sourceforge.

It is based on the QT libraries (which work fine on mac) and 
pwlib/openh323.

Some effort may be required, I know nothing about macs, nor do I know what 
is only partially implemented on macs.

I suspect with the latest MAC OS X software it might just work.

Derek.

=======
On Fri, 27 Dec 2002, Andrig T. Miller wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> 	I am setting up video conferencing on my internal home network, and was 
> wondering if anyone knew of MAC OS X based software that will 
> interoperate with GnomeMeeting?  I have been looking for the last 
> several days, and haven't run across anything yet.  Any help would be 
> greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Andrig T. Miller
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
> 
> 

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There was one other reply referencing a project called CPhone.  That 
project is in its very early stages, so I think that I will explore 
trying to get GnomeMeeting running on MAC OS X.  I know of people who 
have built XFree86 and Gnome on MAC OS X, so this should be possible.  I 
will start checking into this, as I may need to do this for OpenOffice 
as well (currently it only has an X11 interface for the MAC).  If I run 
into problems, or need your help, I will let you know.

Thanks.

Andrig T. Miller

> In theory, you should be able to compile and make GnomeMeeting run on Mac OS X. But you need things like XonX (I can be wrong, I never used Mac OS X). If you are interested in trying, I will help you. Le ven 27/12/2002 à 21:06, Andrig T. Miller a écrit :
> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> 	I am setting up video conferencing on my internal home network, and was 
>>> wondering if anyone knew of MAC OS X based software that will 
>>> interoperate with GnomeMeeting?  I have been looking for the last 
>>> several days, and haven't run across anything yet.  Any help would be 
>>> greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Andrig T. Miller
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
>>> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
>>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
> -- Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> 



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Le sam 28/12/2002 à 19:27, Andrig T. Miller a écrit :
> There was one other reply referencing a project called CPhone.  That 
> project is in its very early stages, so I think that I will explore 
> trying to get GnomeMeeting running on MAC OS X.  I know of people who 
> have built XFree86 and Gnome on MAC OS X, so this should be possible.  I 
> will start checking into this, as I may need to do this for OpenOffice 
> as well (currently it only has an X11 interface for the MAC).  If I run 
> into problems, or need your help, I will let you know.
> 

I'm really ready to help if you have problems. Perhaps it is better to
contact me privately in that case and I will help you through the
process of building things if I'm able to do it.

Thanks!
-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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Hi, where is my helping hand ...?

I just installed gnomemeeting on a rh8.0-box (2.4.18-19.8.0) by a rpm-fil=
e
and started it in root-mode. everything works fine, but when i try to
start it as a "normal" user , the following errormessage occurs:

GnomeMeeting wurde 0 als GConf-Schl=FCssel
=BB/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test_age=AB
zur=FCckgeliefert, es wurde jedoch 12 erwartet.

=2E.. puh, okay, i will try ...

Gnomemeeting got a 0 as the value of the GConf-Key
=BB/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test_age=AB but expected a 12 ...



In the FAQ, the projectteam says:

7.11. I have GConf errors when I start GnomeMeeting, what can I do?
The first thing to do is to try to change the permissions with:=20
$ chmod -R 4755 /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/
$ killall -9 gconfd-2
 If it doesn't work, either GConf is not properly setup on your system,=20
either you don't have compiled GnomeMeeting with the right GConf flags.
Not all distributions install GConf settings in /etc/gconf, but=20
gconftool-2 --get-default-source should always give you the place where=20
default GConf settings are installed.=20

When starting, GnomeMeeting will test the value for a given key, and=20
compares it to what it expected to receive. If what he receives doesn't
match whith what he expected, then there is a problem. That key is=20
"/apps/gnomemeeting/general/gconf_test_age", and gconftool-2 --get=20
"/apps/gnomemeeting/general/gconf_test_age" should always return a
value different of 0.



But, unfortunatly, that does not help me at all ..


Any ideas ???

Thankx a lot, Andi

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Le dim 29/12/2002 à 01:33, Andreas Mueller a écrit :
> Hi, where is my helping hand ...?
> 
> I just installed gnomemeeting on a rh8.0-box (2.4.18-19.8.0) by a rpm-file
> and started it in root-mode. everything works fine, but when i try to
> start it as a "normal" user , the following errormessage occurs:
> 

That is typically a permissions problems.
Try to see if /etc/gconf and its subdirectories and files are readable
with ls -l by your user. If not, change the permissions.

> GnomeMeeting wurde 0 als GConf-Schlüssel
> »/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test_age«
> zurückgeliefert, es wurde jedoch 12 erwartet.
> 
> ... puh, okay, i will try ...
> 
> Gnomemeeting got a 0 as the value of the GConf-Key
> »/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test_age« but expected a 12 ...
> 
> 
> 
> In the FAQ, the projectteam says:
> 
> 7.11. I have GConf errors when I start GnomeMeeting, what can I do?
> The first thing to do is to try to change the permissions with: 
> $ chmod -R 4755 /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/
> $ killall -9 gconfd-2
>  If it doesn't work, either GConf is not properly setup on your system, 
> either you don't have compiled GnomeMeeting with the right GConf flags.
> Not all distributions install GConf settings in /etc/gconf, but 
> gconftool-2 --get-default-source should always give you the place where 
> default GConf settings are installed. 
> 
> When starting, GnomeMeeting will test the value for a given key, and 
> compares it to what it expected to receive. If what he receives doesn't
> match whith what he expected, then there is a problem. That key is 
> "/apps/gnomemeeting/general/gconf_test_age", and gconftool-2 --get 
> "/apps/gnomemeeting/general/gconf_test_age" should always return a
> value different of 0.
> 
> 
> 
> But, unfortunatly, that does not help me at all ..
> 
> 
> Any ideas ???
> 
> Thankx a lot, Andi
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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Hi all this is my first post on this ML and for first i'd like to say
Marry Christmas and Happy new year to all.

and now the problem ...
I've just switched to debian but also with redhat 8.0 I've experienced
the same problem when I start to use GM 0.94.1, After I start a calling
a netmeeting client (but i really don't if the problem appears also in
the call to gm client) after some minute the viedo module crash and GM
windows is inaccessible ... but the audio continue to work so I can talk
also for lot of time. I don't now if the problem is due to my webcam but
as i just say i get this problem only when i switch to gm 0.94.1 

have anyone experienced the same problem  and have a solution ?

any Idea ?

bye
Alkex


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Dears, 

I have problem during the ./configure. 

[root@localhost gnomemeeting-0.95.0]# ./configure
checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for working aclocal... found
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... found
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking for intltool >= 0.20... 0.22 found
checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl
checking for gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables...
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed
checking for ld used by GCC... /usr/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes
checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r
checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking how to recognise dependant libraries... pass_all
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for egrep... grep -E
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for sys/types.h... yes
checking for sys/stat.h... yes
checking for stdlib.h... yes
checking for string.h... yes
checking for memory.h... yes
checking for strings.h... yes
checking for inttypes.h... yes
checking for stdint.h... yes
checking for unistd.h... yes
checking dlfcn.h usability... yes
checking dlfcn.h presence... yes
checking for dlfcn.h... yes
checking for g++... g++
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes
checking whether g++ accepts -g... yes
checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... g++ -E
checking the maximum length of command line arguments... 49153
checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from gcc object... ok
checking for objdir... .libs
checking for ranlib... ranlib
checking for strip... strip
checking if gcc static flag  works... yes
checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... yes
checking for gcc option to produce PIC... -fPIC
checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes
checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes
checking whether the gcc linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... 
yes
checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes
checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so
checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build static libraries... yes
configure: creating libtool
appending configuration tag "CXX" to libtool
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yes
 -fPIC
checking if g++ PIC flag -fPIC works... yes
checking if g++ supports -c -o file.o... yes
checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... 
yes
checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... yes
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes
checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so
appending configuration tag "GCJ" to libtool
checking if gcj supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... (cached) yes
checking for gcj option to produce PIC... -fPIC
checking if gcj PIC flag -fPIC works... no
checking if gcj supports -c -o file.o... no
checking whether the gcj linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... 
yes
checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... yes
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes
checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so
checking for gcc... (cached) gcc
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... (cached) yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... (cached) none needed
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... (cached) yes
checking whether g++ accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking for strerror in -lcposix... no
checking for ANSI C header files... (cached) yes
checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
checking for libgnomeui-2.0 >= 1.112.0 linc >= 0.5.0 libbonobo-2.0 >= 2.0.0 
esound >= 0.2.28... yes
checking GNOMEMEETING_CFLAGS...     -I/usr/include/libgnomeui-2.0 
 -I/usr/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 
 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/include/gconf/2 
 -I/usr/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 
 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/orbit-2.0 
 -I/usr/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 
 -I/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/include/linc-1.0 
 -I/usr/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/include/libxml2 
 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include 
 -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/Xft2 -I/usr/X11R6/include
checking GNOMEMEETING_LIBS...     -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgnomeui-2 -lSM -lICE 
 -lbonoboui-2 -lgnomecanvas-2 -lgnome-2 -lart_lgpl_2 -lpangoft2-1.0 
 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangoxft-1.0 
 -lpangox-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lgconf-2 -lgnomevfs-2 -lbonobo-2 
 -lbonobo-activation -lORBit-2 -lxml2 -lz -llinc -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl 
 -lgobject-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lpthread -lglib-2.0 -lesd -laudiofile -lm
Using config source xml::/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults for schema 
installation
Using $(sysconfdir)/gconf/schemas/ as install directory for schema files
checking for long... yes
checking size of long... 4
checking whether byte ordering is bigendian... no
checking whether OS type is supported... yes
checking for PTLib includes...
checking for /usr/lib/libpt.so... no
configure: error: You need PTLib to enjoy GnomeMeeting 


Could anyone help me, please? 


Best regards, 

Denis.

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Hi all this is my first post on this ML and for first i'd like to say
Marry Christmas and Happy new year to all.

and now the problem ...
I've just switched to debian but also with redhat 8.0 I've experienced
the same problem when I start to use GM 0.94.1, After I start a calling
a netmeeting client (but i really don't if the problem appears also in
the call to gm client) after some minute the viedo module crash and GM
windows is inaccessible ... but the audio continue to work so I can talk
also for lot of time. I don't now if the problem is due to my webcam but
as i just say i get this problem only when i switch to gm 0.94.1 

have anyone experienced the same problem  and have a solution ?

any Idea ?

bye
Alkex


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Hi, this was a known bug of GnomeMeeting 0.94.1. Actually, the problem
was that I was freeing some GtkWidget in the stats display part I
shouldn't have freed.

I would suggest you to use the CVS version if your problem appears too
often. It only appeared on some systems.

Debs of the CVS version are available here:
deb ftp://www.gnomemeeting.org/gnomemeeting-cvs/ ./
apt-get update; apt-get install gnomemeeting-cvs

We can provide RH8 Rpms on request.

Le dim 29/12/2002 à 10:35, Alkex a écrit :
> Hi all this is my first post on this ML and for first i'd like to say
> Marry Christmas and Happy new year to all.
> 
> and now the problem ...
> I've just switched to debian but also with redhat 8.0 I've experienced
> the same problem when I start to use GM 0.94.1, After I start a calling
> a netmeeting client (but i really don't if the problem appears also in
> the call to gm client) after some minute the viedo module crash and GM
> windows is inaccessible ... but the audio continue to work so I can talk
> also for lot of time. I don't now if the problem is due to my webcam but
> as i just say i get this problem only when i switch to gm 0.94.1 
> 
> have anyone experienced the same problem  and have a solution ?
> 
> any Idea ?
> 
> bye
> Alkex
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
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Le ven 27/12/2002 à 01:29, Everson Denis a écrit :
> checking for PTLib includes...
> checking for /usr/lib/libpt.so... no
> configure: error: You need PTLib to enjoy GnomeMeeting 
> 
> 
> Could anyone help me, please? 

Simple, you need to install PWLib.
Please check the FAQ, there is a detailed installation procedure.

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On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 10:36, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Hi, this was a known bug of GnomeMeeting 0.94.1. Actually, the problem
> was that I was freeing some GtkWidget in the stats display part I
> shouldn't have freed.
> 
> I would suggest you to use the CVS version if your problem appears too
> often. It only appeared on some systems.
> 
> Debs of the CVS version are available here:
> deb ftp://www.gnomemeeting.org/gnomemeeting-cvs/ ./
> apt-get update; apt-get install gnomemeeting-cvs
> 
I've just try but i get a time out from gnomemeeting.org

> We can provide RH8 Rpms on request.





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% *** Alkex <alkex@inwind.it> wrote: ***
% On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 10:36, Damien Sandras wrote:
% > 
% > Debs of the CVS version are available here:
% > deb ftp://www.gnomemeeting.org/gnomemeeting-cvs/ ./
% > apt-get update; apt-get install gnomemeeting-cvs
% > 
% I've just try but i get a time out from gnomemeeting.org
% 

I confirm the site is up !

---------------------------------
user:$ date
Sun Dec 29 12:17:13 CET 2002

user:$ apt-cache policy gnomemeeting-cvs

gnomemeeting-cvs:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 20021229.CVS-1
  Version Table:
     20021229.CVS-1 0
        500 ftp://www.gnomemeeting.org ./ Packages
     20021208.CVS-1 0
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
---------------------------------

Try with your browser (i.e. links) to see if you can still access it.


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On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 11:46, Alkex wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 10:36, Damien Sandras wrote:
> > Hi, this was a known bug of GnomeMeeting 0.94.1. Actually, the problem
> > was that I was freeing some GtkWidget in the stats display part I
> > shouldn't have freed.
> > 
> > I would suggest you to use the CVS version if your problem appears too
> > often. It only appeared on some systems.
> > 
> > Debs of the CVS version are available here:
> > deb ftp://www.gnomemeeting.org/gnomemeeting-cvs/ ./
> > apt-get update; apt-get install gnomemeeting-cvs
> > 
> I've just try but i get a time out from gnomemeeting.org
> 
> > We can provide RH8 Rpms on request.

ok solved, now seems that all it's ok 

thanks  

bye
Alkex


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Just curious. Is it only possible to use ALSA with gnomemeeting through OSS 
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Le dim 29/12/2002 à 16:31, Georgi Georgiev a écrit :
> Just curious. Is it only possible to use ALSA with gnomemeeting through OSS 
> emulation?
> 
Till now yes.
If you want to contribute a PWLib patch, it is welcome :)

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Hi!
I installed the packages of 
http://www.gnomemeeting.org/admin/downloads/latest/suse/misc/
on a SUSE 8.1 (!!) and after a lot of tweaking it worked.
changed firewall settings , stopped artsd, adjusted audio devices 

but it frequently crashes
(gnomemeeting.bin:25024): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289 
(g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(gnomemeeting.bin:25024): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1307 
(g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

and another similar with *color*.c (can't remember)

cu
ferdinand
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Hi!

That bug has been fixed in CVS one week after the release, there is
nothing to do except waiting for next release happening soon.


Le dim 29/12/2002 à 17:11, Ferdinand Gassauer a écrit :
> Hi!
> I installed the packages of 
> http://www.gnomemeeting.org/admin/downloads/latest/suse/misc/
> on a SUSE 8.1 (!!) and after a lot of tweaking it worked.
> changed firewall settings , stopped artsd, adjusted audio devices 
> 
> but it frequently crashes
> (gnomemeeting.bin:25024): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289 
> (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> 
> (gnomemeeting.bin:25024): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1307 
> (g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> 
> and another similar with *color*.c (can't remember)
> 
> cu
> ferdinand
> http://www.goesing.at
> 
> PS I am not on the list.
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Hi,

I read the FAQ, and didn't see an answer to this, so here goes.

If one party in a gnomemeeting is using a quicknet card for G.723.1 or G.729
compression, must the recipient also be using a quicknet card for decompression
? (or can gnomemeeting handle the decompression, just not the compression ?)

thx, and rgds,

-Greg

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Le lun 30/12/2002 à 10:37, Gregory Hosler a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I read the FAQ, and didn't see an answer to this, so here goes.
> 
> If one party in a gnomemeeting is using a quicknet card for G.723.1 or G.729
> compression, must the recipient also be using a quicknet card for decompression
> ? (or can gnomemeeting handle the decompression, just not the compression ?)
> 

The remote party has to be using a Quicknet card too if you want to use
one of those patented codecs. If the remote party is using Netmeeting,
then the G.723.1 codec is available.

Notice that Quicknet cards have other advantages than the support for
G.723.1 and that they can also use the software codecs like Speex or GSM
provided with GnomeMeeting.

> thx, and rgds,
> 
> -Greg

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I am using the  Gnomemeeting 0.12.2  that came with my Suse 8.0  Here are=
 a=20
few problems that I am having with it while commnucating with others who =
are=20
using Netmeeting and GnomeMeeting:

(1)  While the recipients of my audio often report that the sound I am se=
nding=20
is excellent,  they just as frequently report that it is so tinny (not ti=
ny)=20
as to be unintelligible.  Moreover while the sound transmission can begin=
=20
with excellent quality, it can flip to the tinny sound after a few minute=
s.=20
It never flips from tinny to good. The  quality of the sound that I recei=
ve=20
is always good.=20

(2) The headphone and microphone sound controls on my GnomeMeeting do not=
 work=20
(have no effect whatsoever.)

(3)  The sound volume controls on  my mixers have no effect with gnomemee=
ting=20
although they do work  with all other programs except ohphone. Howvever t=
he=20
mixers do successfully turn my audio transmit on and off.

Problems (1)-(3) also apply to ohphone.


A more minor problem is this:

(4) The  ringing alert for incoming calls does not work while I am runnin=
g=20
GnomeMeeting in KDE but it does while I am runing it in Gnome.

Any help that you might have for me wouldbe greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

Andrew Carson.

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Am Mon, 2002-12-30 um 16.46 schrieb Andrew Carson:
> I am using the  Gnomemeeting 0.12.2  that came with my Suse 8.0  Here are a 
> few problems that I am having with it while commnucating with others who are 
> using Netmeeting and GnomeMeeting:

0.12.2 is a very old release. The latest stable release of GnomeMeeting
is 0.94.1, thus I would suggest you to upgrade your GnomeMeeting.
> 
> (1)  While the recipients of my audio often report that the sound I am sending 
> is excellent,  they just as frequently report that it is so tinny (not tiny) 
> as to be unintelligible.  Moreover while the sound transmission can begin 
> with excellent quality, it can flip to the tinny sound after a few minutes. 
> It never flips from tinny to good. The  quality of the sound that I receive 
> is always good. 

This can have several reasons, bandwidth problems for instance. Which
codec do you use?

> 
> (2) The headphone and microphone sound controls on my GnomeMeeting do not work 
> (have no effect whatsoever.)
> 
> (3)  The sound volume controls on  my mixers have no effect with gnomemeeting 
> although they do work  with all other programs except ohphone. Howvever the 
> mixers do successfully turn my audio transmit on and off.
> 
> Problems (1)-(3) also apply to ohphone.
> 
> 
> A more minor problem is this:
> 
> (4) The  ringing alert for incoming calls does not work while I am running 
> GnomeMeeting in KDE but it does while I am runing it in Gnome.
> 
> Any help that you might have for me wouldbe greatly appreciated.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Andrew Carson.
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Hi!
To avoid to kill artsd - which is frequently suggested - start

artsdsp gnomemeeting 
eventually editing the gnomemeeting.desktop file

see artsdsp.c
/* Evil evil evil hack to get OSS apps to cooperate with artsd
 * This is based on the original esddsp, which esd uses to do the same.
 *
 * Copyright (C) 1998 Manish Singh <yosh@gimp.org>
 * Copyright (C) 2000 Stefan Westerfeld <stefan@space.twc.de> (aRts port)
.....
hope that helps

-- 
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gnomemeeting comes pre-installed on Red Hat seince Red Hat 7.3

RH 7.3 has GM 0.85.1 pre-configured.

rgds,

-Greg

On 31-Dec-2002 Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Since I managed to trash my Mandrake 9.0 while trying to upgrade some
> packages :) , I was thinking to play / learn some more about other UNIX /
> Linux systems, so it crossed my mind to try maybe something from the BSD
> family or maybe Solaris 9 for x86. Anyone managed to install gnomemeeting on
> such thing? I mean painless of course. ;)
> 
> Best regards and a happy new year!!!
> Adrian Golumbovici

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Debian is hard to install, but easy to maintain.
You can run apt-get install gnomemeeting even with a 3 years old system
and it will be installed without pain.

FreeBSD is harder and Solaris is not Free.

Le mar 31/12/2002 à 13:01, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> Hi,
>  
> Since I managed to trash my Mandrake 9.0 while trying to upgrade some
> packages :) , I was thinking to play / learn some more about other
> UNIX / Linux systems, so it crossed my mind to try maybe something
> from the BSD family or maybe Solaris 9 for x86. Anyone managed to
> install gnomemeeting on such thing? I mean painless of course. ;)
>  
> Best regards and a happy new year!!!
> Adrian Golumbovici
-- 
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Thx Damien. OK. I will try to go with debian first then. I can't imagine the
installing is harder than what linux was like about 2-3 years ago so I think
I will manage it.
I'll let you know on the results.

Best regards,
Adrian Golumbovici
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> Debian is hard to install, but easy to maintain.
> You can run apt-get install gnomemeeting even with a 3 years old system
> and it will be installed without pain.
>
> FreeBSD is harder and Solaris is not Free.
>
> Le mar 31/12/2002 à 13:01, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > Since I managed to trash my Mandrake 9.0 while trying to upgrade some
> > packages :) , I was thinking to play / learn some more about other
> > UNIX / Linux systems, so it crossed my mind to try maybe something
> > from the BSD family or maybe Solaris 9 for x86. Anyone managed to
> > install gnomemeeting on such thing? I mean painless of course. ;)
> >
> > Best regards and a happy new year!!!
> > Adrian Golumbovici
> --
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From dsandras@seconix.com  Tue Dec 31 11:37:05 2002
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That could help to have a native port of GnomeMeeting on OS X when
compiling gnomemeeting with --disable-gnome :

http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/02/12/31/149202.shtml?tid=179

Anybody interested?
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Both my wife and I have Gnomemeeting 0.94.1 installed on our computers both of which run Suse 8.1.
Neither of us is able to  transmit sound although both of us are able to receive both sound and video. 
We have tested the abilty to receive sound by receiving sound sent by netmeeting to gnomemeeting.

Has anyone heard of a similar problem? Does anyone have any suggestions?

Andrew Carson.

PS Originally We were running Suse 8.0 with Gnomemeeting 0.12 that came with it. These could both send and receive sound and video,
but after a while the sound became  so tinny that it was hard to understand. When I posted this to this group, I received the following advice:

>0.12.2 is a very old release. The latest stable release of GnomeMeeting
>is 0.94.1, thus I would suggest you to upgrade your GnomeMeeting.

I  was unable to do this under Suse 8.0 as even the version of pwlib given on the gnomemeeting.org download site with the Suse RPM's for gnomemeeting 0.94.1
would not install in Suse 8.0. I thus installed Suse 8.1. The pwlib, h323 and gnomemeeting 0.94.1 all then installed. At this point I was unable to transmit sound, as described 
above.





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PS We can both transmit sound from our computers when running netmeeting.




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I use GnomeMeeting on FreeBSD. It installs easily from the FreeBSD
Ports, but has support for only a couple of video sources. This makes
it more difficult to use. Incoming video and sound are fine.

I really prefer FreeBSD to Linux for its consistency. It is a complete
OS, unlike the various Linux distros where you have a Linux kernel
surrounded by a variety of software that is put together by each
distributor. FreeBSD is FreeBSD while RedHat and not Debian is not
Mandrake is not Suse, ...

But for GnomeMeeting, Linux is probably still your best bet for video
transmission.

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
E-mail: oberman@es.net			Phone: +1 510 486-8634

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I'm not sure I understand your mail. You tell us :
- A and B communicate
- A and B can receive sound and video
- A and B cannot transmit sound and video

How can you be sure you are able to receive if the remote user is unable
to transmit?

If I had to guess your problem, I would say that you don't have problems
to transmit but that the problem is on reception. 

You don't give enough information yet to debug the problem but:
- Are you behind a NAT gateway or router or is it a direct connection to
the Net ?
- Are you firewalled or not ?

Le mar 31/12/2002 à 18:41, Andrew and Catherine a écrit :
> Both my wife and I have Gnomemeeting 0.94.1 installed on our computers both of which run Suse 8.1.
> Neither of us is able to  transmit sound although both of us are able to receive both sound and video. 
> We have tested the abilty to receive sound by receiving sound sent by netmeeting to gnomemeeting.
> 
> Has anyone heard of a similar problem? Does anyone have any suggestions?
> 
> Andrew Carson.
> 
> PS Originally We were running Suse 8.0 with Gnomemeeting 0.12 that came with it. These could both send and receive sound and video,
> but after a while the sound became  so tinny that it was hard to understand. When I posted this to this group, I received the following advice:
> 
> >0.12.2 is a very old release. The latest stable release of GnomeMeeting
> >is 0.94.1, thus I would suggest you to upgrade your GnomeMeeting.
> 
> I  was unable to do this under Suse 8.0 as even the version of pwlib given on the gnomemeeting.org download site with the Suse RPM's for gnomemeeting 0.94.1
> would not install in Suse 8.0. I thus installed Suse 8.1. The pwlib, h323 and gnomemeeting 0.94.1 all then installed. At this point I was unable to transmit sound, as described 
> above.
> 
> 
> 
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Am Die, 2002-12-31 um 18.57 schrieb Kevin Oberman:
> I use GnomeMeeting on FreeBSD. It installs easily from the FreeBSD
> Ports, but has support for only a couple of video sources. This makes
> it more difficult to use. Incoming video and sound are fine.

But it is an old release, isn't it? I think the FreeBSD Ports include
GnomeMeeting 0.85 due to the required libraries (but I am not sure
because I do not use FreeBSD).

> 
> I really prefer FreeBSD to Linux for its consistency. It is a complete
> OS, unlike the various Linux distros where you have a Linux kernel
> surrounded by a variety of software that is put together by each
> distributor. FreeBSD is FreeBSD while RedHat and not Debian is not
> Mandrake is not Suse, ...

That is correct, BSDs are not just a kernel (like linux, for instance).
This solution has advantages and also disadvantages. It is a sensitive
topic which could start a flamewar, thus I think we should not start to
discuss about "linux vs. BSD" ;)
I really agree to you. I also prefer BSD, though I do not like FreeBSD -
I am using NetBSD (hey, we could start a flamewar too ;).

> 
> But for GnomeMeeting, Linux is probably still your best bet for video
> transmission.

Especially on NetBSD because there are still some problems with some
software. Nevertheless it is also possible to use GnomeMeeting.

> 
> R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
> Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
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Gnomemeeting has been included in the internet phone database
at http://www.iphone.milescape.com/, its detail shows that the
Gnomemeeting supports other languages except English, who knows 
what other languages are? or you re-submit it.

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On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 19:40:08 -0800 (PST)
A B <thefirstwebchef@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Gnomemeeting has been included in the internet phone database
> at http://www.iphone.milescape.com/, its detail shows that the
> Gnomemeeting supports other languages except English, who knows 
> what other languages are? or you re-submit it.

Here is the answer ;)

[aflinta@warp aflinta]$ rpm -ql gnomemeeting |grep .mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/cs/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/da/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/el/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/gl/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/hu/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/no/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/pt/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/sk/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
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/usr/X11R6/share/locale/ta/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
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/usr/X11R6/share/locale/vi/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/wa/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo


					Artur
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On Saturday 30 November 2002 04:41, william bastian wrote:
> that answered my question.  the ymessenger available from yahoo for
> linux does not support video conferencing and they say they have no
> immediate plans to make it happen.  just goes to show that  it will tak=
e
> some more market penetration by linux before they  sit up and take
> notice.
>     maybe netmeeting is what i am puzzling over, comes along with
> msnmessenger, have not used a web camera on that very often, it is not
> very good quality compared with ymessenger video, which is good
> i do know you have to open TCP 5100 on the firewall in the router for
> the new super-web camera feature  that they have in the current
> ymessenger 5.5 that people with high speed access can use,  dsl or cabl=
e
> modem.  i am using a dsl modem and a linksys router to hook both my
> windows 2k and the linux  mandrake 9.0 computers up to the dsl modem.
> both computers have 256meg of ram and are running at 1 gig for
> processors, amd brand processors.  using ethernet 10-100 cards  to the
> router and ethernet into the dsl modem.
> i am using mandrake linux 9.0, the 8.2 mandrake linux had a copy of
> gnome-meeting with it, but it never worked.  this 9.0 does see a
> logitech netcam express, a picture comes up on the screen.  just do nee=
d
> to know what to put in the address to make things happen, to get onto
> something like netmeeting.  again, i  understand that gnome-meeting is
> evolving and has not even reached 1.0 yet,  so writing a extensive
> instruction book for it might  be a bit of a waste of time since it wil=
l
> be changing.
>     so what do i put in that address window when it shows up?? the
> msnmessenger ID of the person i would like to netmeet with?  is there a
> special syntax or order?  remember, like a lot of windows user i am
> pretty much a point and click specialist(build my own computers and and
> get them running, including windows, and attempting to learn the linux
> mandrake operating system, which IS considerably different) so slowly
> attempting to learn the linux operating system a little at a time.
>   thanks for answering that question!  dissipates some fog!! i will als=
o
> work on cutting down the length of my responses.thanks for your
> patience. bill
>
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Hello

Try this link:http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/mdoc/user/video-apps.html
Good luck

Pablo



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capture images from video?

thanks

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Le dim 01/12/2002 à 20:00, francesco.melo a écrit :
> capture images from video?
> 
> thanks


File menu -> Save ... It will be saved in your home directory.
Only pics, no mpeg video yet.


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Slackware packages of GM 0.94.1 are now available thanks to Vincent
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Hi,

I coded a lot this WE to improve the Quicknet support in GnomeMeeting.
It is now nearly complete, I just plan to improve the code tonight.

Please, if you own a Quicknet card, and want to test, contact me
privately. Thanks!


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Hi,

It "seems"  working well with gnomemeeting with seconix.com :
I can see all the people connecting ...
I try to connect on some of them ,
but it tries to connect , I wait,wait,  nothing happens
OR,
after a short time : "connection terminated"
sometimes I have the connection :
a web-cam image appears :
I send a message and I never receive a answer !=20
quid ?
does it come from "gnomemeeting" or "seconix" ?
thanks
Antoine

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It probalby comes from bad configuration on your side.

Are you NATted?

Le lun 02/12/2002 à 21:03, antoine a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> It "seems"  working well with gnomemeeting with seconix.com :
> I can see all the people connecting ...
> I try to connect on some of them ,
> but it tries to connect , I wait,wait,  nothing happens
> OR,
> after a short time : "connection terminated"
> sometimes I have the connection :
> a web-cam image appears :
> I send a message and I never receive a answer ! 
> quid ?
> does it come from "gnomemeeting" or "seconix" ?
> thanks
> Antoine
> _______________________________________________
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Le Mardi 3 D=E9cembre 2002 09:44, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
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> Are you NATted?
-----------
what do you mean about : "NATted" ?
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> Le Mardi 3 D=E9cembre 2002 09:44, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> > It probalby comes from bad configuration on your side.
> > Are you NATted?
>
> -----------
> what do you mean about : "NATted" ?
> antoine

NATed =3D behind a firewall inside a private network.=20
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Le Mardi 3 D=E9cembre 2002 09:44, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> It probalby comes from bad configuration on your side.
> Are you NATted?
-------------------------------------
Hi,

A friend-user makes this command on MY IP on seconix :

nmap -O 62.147.123.60
Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, =
try=20
-P0
Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (0 hosts up) scanned in 30 seconds
------------------------
the user on his PC :
nmap -O 212.194.78.197
Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
Interesting ports on lns04a-7-197.w.club-internet.fr (212.194.78.197):
(The 1594 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
Port       State       Service
80/tcp     open        http                   =20
443/tcp    open        https                  =20
515/tcp    open        printer                =20
631/tcp    open        ipp                    =20
1720/tcp   open        H.323/Q.931            =20
6000/tcp   open        X11                    =20
7000/tcp   open        afs3-fileserver        =20
Remote operating system guess: Linux Kernel 2.4.0 - 2.5.20
Uptime 0.134 days (since Mon Dec  2 19:35:35 2002)

Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 7 second
---------------------
So, it works on the user but not with my IP ...
problem of firewall ?
thanks
antoine

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Le mar 03/12/2002 à 12:36, antoine a écrit :

> So, it works on the user but not with my IP ...

I don't understand this.

> problem of firewall ?

If you have a firewall, yes it can be a problem. I would suggest you to
read the FAQ, that should help you to debug your problem...

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Hi,
me again :

=46rom my PC connected to seconix , I type :

 nmap -O 62.147.137.217

Starting nmap V. 2.54BETA31 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
Interesting ports on nas-cbv-3-62-147-137-217.dial.proxad.net=20
(62.147.137.217):
(The 1551 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
Port       State       Service
515/tcp    open        printer
6000/tcp   open        X11
-----------
I have not the :=20
1720/tcp   open        H.323/Q.931            =20

quid ?

thanks

antoine Wach=E9


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Try nmap -p 1720 62.147.137.217
but that wouldn't help anyway.
Please read the FAQ to debug your problem. You don't give enough info
about the problem for us to be able to debug it. You might also have
contacted people with a wrong setup on ILS. Many users on ILS register
without having tested anything.

Le mar 03/12/2002 à 12:57, antoine a écrit :
> Hi,
> me again :
> 
> From my PC connected to seconix , I type :
> 
>  nmap -O 62.147.137.217
> 
> Starting nmap V. 2.54BETA31 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
> Interesting ports on nas-cbv-3-62-147-137-217.dial.proxad.net 
> (62.147.137.217):
> (The 1551 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
> Port       State       Service
> 515/tcp    open        printer
> 6000/tcp   open        X11
> -----------
> I have not the : 
> 1720/tcp   open        H.323/Q.931             
> 
> quid ?
> 
> thanks
> 
> antoine Waché
> 
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Le Mardi 3 D=E9cembre 2002 11:04, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> Try nmap -p 1720 62.147.137.217
> but that wouldn't help anyway.
> Please read the FAQ to debug your problem. You don't give enough info
> about the problem for us to be able to debug it. You might also have
> contacted people with a wrong setup on ILS. Many users on ILS register
> without having tested anything.
> > -----------
> > I have not the :
> > 1720/tcp   open        H.323/Q.931
------------------------------
difficult to say more precisions ...
-------
I read the FAQ : no subject about : "no message received ..."
it's why I contact this list :-)
-----
I try to connect on your name (Damien Sandras) on seconix but no answer.
I can connect to many people , they receive my messages but I don't recei=
ve=20
their message.
-----
Do I have to configure /etc/ldap.conf ?

bye

antoine



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I'm in do not disturb mode =>
13:09:36 Appel de antoine Henri  qui utilise gnomemeeting	0.85.1	9/61
13:09:36 Refusé automatiquement

Your GnomeMeeting is 0.85.1, and yes there can be problems with messages
transmission between 0.9x and 0.85.1 because we are doing this in UTF-8
in GM 0.9x. You should upgrade to a newer version.

If you want to make sure your GnomeMeeting is well configured, please go
on the IRC channel and ask to somebody to test with you.

Le mar 03/12/2002 à 15:25, antoine a écrit :
> Le Mardi 3 Décembre 2002 11:04, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> > Try nmap -p 1720 62.147.137.217
> > but that wouldn't help anyway.
> > Please read the FAQ to debug your problem. You don't give enough info
> > about the problem for us to be able to debug it. You might also have
> > contacted people with a wrong setup on ILS. Many users on ILS register
> > without having tested anything.
> > > -----------
> > > I have not the :
> > > 1720/tcp   open        H.323/Q.931
> ------------------------------
> difficult to say more precisions ...
> -------
> I read the FAQ : no subject about : "no message received ..."
> it's why I contact this list :-)
> -----
> I try to connect on your name (Damien Sandras) on seconix but no answer.
> I can connect to many people , they receive my messages but I don't receive 
> their message.
> -----
> Do I have to configure /etc/ldap.conf ?
> 
> bye
> 
> antoine
> 
> 
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Le Mardi 3 D=E9cembre 2002 13:28, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> I'm in do not disturb mode =3D>
> 13:09:36 Appel de antoine Henri  qui utilise gnomemeeting=090.85.1=099/=
61
> 13:09:36 Refus=E9 automatiquement
> Your GnomeMeeting is 0.85.1, and yes there can be problems with message=
s
> transmission between 0.9x and 0.85.1 because we are doing this in UTF-8
> in GM 0.9x. You should upgrade to a newer version.
ok, it's what I have to do ...=20
> If you want to make sure your GnomeMeeting is well configured, please g=
o
> on the IRC channel and ask to somebody to test with you.
Sorry but :-) : How to do go to a IRC channel and do a IRC chat ?
antoine

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On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 03:03:21PM +0000, antoine wrote:
> Sorry but :-) : How to do go to a IRC channel and do a IRC chat ?
> antoine

Shame on you Antoine ! Google "irc linux" and read your way through. Use
the chat client that goes with Mozilla if you like. I find it easy to use.

Have a good read. Tonight around 22:00 I'll probably have GM up and we can 
test your setup if you like.
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As promised, I reported this bug to the gk-developers list and within a
day or two they (actually Chih-Wei Huang) confirmed the issue and has
committed a fix to the 2_0 branch of cvs for those, like me, who can't
wait.  I tried it and it now works.  For those who can wait, it should
be fixed in v2.03 of gnugk.


On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 20:30, Marc Williams wrote:
> Sadly, the new 2.02 version of gnugk, while perhaps fixing Joachim's
> problem, does _not_ fix the issue I had previously reported.  I just got
> through building gnugk 2.02 and with one test, I can tell you that the
> problem still exists the same as it was for version 2.00.
> 
> Namely, 
> 1) GM can call GM and everything works.
> 2) NM can call NM and everything works.
> 2) GM can call NM and everything works.
> 3) NM can call GM and only audio works.  No video.
> 
> I'll be reporting this to the gk lists soon.
> 


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Thanks a lot!!!


Le mar 03/12/2002 à 16:53, Marc Williams a écrit :
> As promised, I reported this bug to the gk-developers list and within a
> day or two they (actually Chih-Wei Huang) confirmed the issue and has
> committed a fix to the 2_0 branch of cvs for those, like me, who can't
> wait.  I tried it and it now works.  For those who can wait, it should
> be fixed in v2.03 of gnugk.
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 20:30, Marc Williams wrote:
> > Sadly, the new 2.02 version of gnugk, while perhaps fixing Joachim's
> > problem, does _not_ fix the issue I had previously reported.  I just got
> > through building gnugk 2.02 and with one test, I can tell you that the
> > problem still exists the same as it was for version 2.00.
> > 
> > Namely, 
> > 1) GM can call GM and everything works.
> > 2) NM can call NM and everything works.
> > 2) GM can call NM and everything works.
> > 3) NM can call GM and only audio works.  No video.
> > 
> > I'll be reporting this to the gk lists soon.
> > 
> 
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Hi all;


Could all people owning a Quicknet card and subscribed to this mailing
list mail me ?

That would be very kind to test the latest changes so that the next
release can be very stable.

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% *** Willem Kuiters <wkuiters@free.fr> wrote: ***
% On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 03:03:21PM +0000, antoine wrote:
% > Sorry but :-) : How to do go to a IRC channel and do a IRC chat ?
% > antoine
% 
% Shame on you Antoine ! Google "irc linux" and read your way through. Use
% the chat client that goes with Mozilla if you like. I find it easy to use.
% 

If you don't know which IRC client is used for Linux, try 'irssi' and/or
irssi-gtk for graphical mode.

Truong

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Hi,
I try to update gnomemeeting
----------------------------
5.2.1. Compile PWlib
 You have to compile PWlib that way:
tar xvzf pwlib_x.x.x.tar.gz
$ export PWLIBDIR=3D<the directory where you extracted pwlib>
$ cd $PWLIBDIR
$ make opt
$ cp -d $PWLIBDIR/lib/*so* /usr/lib
$ ln -s /usr/lib/libpt_linux_x86_r.so.x.x.x /usr/lib/libpt.so
----------------
5.2.2. Compile OpenH323
 You have to compile OpenH323 that way:=20
$ tar xvzf openh323_x.x.x.tar.gz
$ export OPENH323DIR=3D<the directory where you extracted OpenH323>
$ cd $OPENH323DIR
$ make opt
$ cp -d $OPENH323DIR/lib/*so* /usr/lib
$ ln -s /usr/lib/libh323_linux_x86_r.so.x.x.x /usr/lib/libopenh323.so
----------------------
So I do exactly what is write up and receive this answer
when I want to compile :
-----------------
[root@localhost opt]# cd $PWLIBDIR
[root@localhost pwlib]# make both
make/ptlib.mak:41: pwlib/make/unix.mak: Aucun fichier ou r=E9pertoire de =
ce type
make/ptlib.mak:42: pwlib/make/common.mak: Aucun fichier ou r=E9pertoire d=
e ce=20
type
make: *** Pas de r=E8gle pour fabriquer la cible `pwlib/make/common.mak'.=
 Arr=EAt.
------------------------------
and the both :  "pwlib/make/unix.mak" , "pwlib/make/common.mak" :  exists=
 !

What can happen ?

I try with The RPM Red-Hat files gnomemeetingn 0.95 , pwlib, openH323 ...=
 :
they need a lot of dependencies ...

Is it possible to update gnomemeeting ? :-)

antoine






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Hi all!

I wrote a few weeks back with a sound conflict problem. I took
everyone's advice and managed to install ALSA on my system. ALSA is now
apparently working, but the sound quality when I try to call my partner
is bad at her end. She says she only hears every second word and the
quality sounds like I'm underwater!

I'm on a cable connection using Gnome 2 on top of Mandrake 9 with a
Soundbaster PCI128 sound card and Logitech Quickcam. My partne is on a
56k modem connection using NetMeeting (with the MS-GSM codec). We have
both used NetMeeting successfully, so her connection seems to be able to
support reasonable video and audio connections.

So, is my problem that:

a) OpenH323 doesn't deal well with low bandwidth? That is, it's not my
problem, really, but a downer. 

b) I don't have ALSA installed correctly? Damien said that ALSA can deal
with the full-duplex problem of the SoundBlaster PCI128, but do I need
to configure any options to do that? Also, although draksound tells me
that I'm using the ALSA sound system, I'm not sure that I'm using the
ALSA devices. GnomeMeeting tells me that my audio player is
dev/sound/dsp, mixer is dev/mixer, audio recorder is dev/sound/dsp, and
recorder mixer is dev/mixer. Does that sound right? 

c) Should I kill ESD? I tried that this morning but the video
disappeared!

d) I'm running GAIM at the same time, but with sound disabled. We use
GAIM so that she can give me her IP address (she has dynamic IP
addressing). Could GAIM be conflicting?

It's a big ask, but I'd like to test my setup with someone on a cable
connection using GnomeMeeting or NetMeeting with MS-GSM enabled, to see
whether the sound is as bad in that case. If you've got some time and a
willingness to help a newbie (new to linux and GM, but not entirely
clueless), please let me know. 

Until anon,

Sean

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On Tuesday 03 December 2002 19:21, antoine wrote:
> Hi,
> I try to update gnomemeeting
> ----------------------------
> 5.2.1. Compile PWlib
>  You have to compile PWlib that way:
> tar xvzf pwlib_x.x.x.tar.gz
> $ export PWLIBDIR=3D<the directory where you extracted pwlib>
> $ cd $PWLIBDIR
> $ make opt
> $ cp -d $PWLIBDIR/lib/*so* /usr/lib
> $ ln -s /usr/lib/libpt_linux_x86_r.so.x.x.x /usr/lib/libpt.so
> ----------------
> 5.2.2. Compile OpenH323
>  You have to compile OpenH323 that way:
> $ tar xvzf openh323_x.x.x.tar.gz
> $ export OPENH323DIR=3D<the directory where you extracted OpenH323>
> $ cd $OPENH323DIR
> $ make opt
> $ cp -d $OPENH323DIR/lib/*so* /usr/lib
> $ ln -s /usr/lib/libh323_linux_x86_r.so.x.x.x /usr/lib/libopenh323.so
> ----------------------
> So I do exactly what is write up and receive this answer
> when I want to compile :
> -----------------
> [root@localhost opt]# cd $PWLIBDIR
> [root@localhost pwlib]# make both
> make/ptlib.mak:41: pwlib/make/unix.mak: Aucun fichier ou r=E9pertoire d=
e ce
> type make/ptlib.mak:42: pwlib/make/common.mak: Aucun fichier ou r=E9per=
toire
> de ce type
> make: *** Pas de r=E8gle pour fabriquer la cible `pwlib/make/common.mak=
'.
> Arr=EAt. ------------------------------
> and the both :  "pwlib/make/unix.mak" , "pwlib/make/common.mak" :  exis=
ts !
>Hello

What are you compiling for? Depending on your distribution, download the=20
needed RPMs from http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3D5&pos=3D0
Download them to your home directory. Move all three RPMs into an empty=20
directory on your desktop. If it doesn't exist, make it (right click on e=
mpty=20
desktop  > "Create new..." > "Directory". Call it -say- RPM. Change your=20
working directory: type  (without the quotation marks) "cd RPM". The prom=
pt=20
will then change accordingly. Type "su" (no quotation marks). You'll be a=
sked=20
for your root password. Type it in. The prompt will change, probably to #=
=2E=20
Type "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" (no quotation marks). All three RPMs will be then=20
installed.
Good luck.
Pablo

> What can happen ?
>
> I try with The RPM Red-Hat files gnomemeetingn 0.95 , pwlib, openH323 .=
=2E. :
> they need a lot of dependencies ...
>
> Is it possible to update gnomemeeting ? :-)
>
> antoine
>
>
>
>
>
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Le mar 03/12/2002 à 18:44, E. Sean Rintel a écrit :
> Hi all!
> 
> I wrote a few weeks back with a sound conflict problem. I took
> everyone's advice and managed to install ALSA on my system. ALSA is now
> apparently working, but the sound quality when I try to call my partner
> is bad at her end. She says she only hears every second word and the
> quality sounds like I'm underwater!

This sounds more like bad settings for your bandwith. If you want good
sound, decrease the video quality (either by having less good images, or
fewer).

> I'm on a cable connection using Gnome 2 on top of Mandrake 9 with a
> Soundbaster PCI128 sound card and Logitech Quickcam. My partne is on a
> 56k modem connection using NetMeeting (with the MS-GSM codec). We have
> both used NetMeeting successfully, so her connection seems to be able to
> support reasonable video and audio connections.

56k modem connection => really decrease video quality if you want good
sound.

> So, is my problem that:
> 
> a) OpenH323 doesn't deal well with low bandwidth? That is, it's not my
> problem, really, but a downer. 

Low bandwith needs very good codecs ; you can't use speex with a
netmeeting client, and unless you have money, the other good codecs
aren't available for gnomemeeting.

> b) I don't have ALSA installed correctly? Damien said that ALSA can deal
> with the full-duplex problem of the SoundBlaster PCI128, but do I need
> to configure any options to do that? Also, although draksound tells me
> that I'm using the ALSA sound system, I'm not sure that I'm using the
> ALSA devices. GnomeMeeting tells me that my audio player is
> dev/sound/dsp, mixer is dev/mixer, audio recorder is dev/sound/dsp, and
> recorder mixer is dev/mixer. Does that sound right? 

I don't think so.

> c) Should I kill ESD? I tried that this morning but the video
> disappeared!

I don't see why killing esd would cause video problems...

> d) I'm running GAIM at the same time, but with sound disabled. We use
> GAIM so that she can give me her IP address (she has dynamic IP
> addressing). Could GAIM be conflicting?

I don't think so, unless you're sending very long messages very fast ;
then you may be able to eat your friend's bandwith.
You know, if you both register to ils.seconix.com, you won't have to
send your ip one another...

> It's a big ask, but I'd like to test my setup with someone on a cable
> connection using GnomeMeeting or NetMeeting with MS-GSM enabled, to see
> whether the sound is as bad in that case. If you've got some time and a
> willingness to help a newbie (new to linux and GM, but not entirely
> clueless), please let me know. 

Please, come on irc.gnome.org, channel #gnomemeeting. You may then find
other users looking for testing, or ready to help.

Snark on #gnomemeeting
-- 
PUYDT Julien <julien.puydt@netpratique.fr>


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> What are you compiling for? Depending on your distribution, download th=
e
> needed RPMs from http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3D5&pos=3D0
> Download them to your home directory. Move all three RPMs into an empty
> directory on your desktop. If it doesn't exist, make it (right click on
> empty desktop  > "Create new..." > "Directory". Call it -say- RPM. Chan=
ge
> your working directory: type  (without the quotation marks) "cd RPM". T=
he
> prompt will then change accordingly. Type "su" (no quotation marks). Yo=
u'll
> be asked for your root password. Type it in. The prompt will change,
> probably to #. Type "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" (no quotation marks). All three RP=
Ms
> will be then installed.
> Good luck.
> Pablo
_______________________________________________
Hi,
I made exactly what you wrote up, creating a new directory "gnomeeting"  =
under=20
my home directory :
and I receive this answer below ... :
grrrr .. :-)
antoine
------
[root@localhost gnomeeting]# ls
gnomemeeting-0.85.1-3.i386.rpm  gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386.rpm =20
pwlib-1.3.11-1.i386.rpm
gnomemeeting-0.93.1-4.src.rpm   openh323-1.9.10-4.i386.rpm
[root@localhost gnomeeting]# rpm -Uvh *.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
        GConf2 >=3D 1.2.0 is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libart_lgpl_2.so.2   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libbonobo-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libbonobo-activation.so.4   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libbonoboui-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgconf-2.so.4   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgnome-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgnomecanvas-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgnomeui-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgnomevfs-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        liblinc.so.1   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libORBit-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libstdc++.so.5   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
        libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
        libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
        libstdc++.so.5   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
        libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
        libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libstdc++.so.5   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
        pwlib =3D 1.2.12 is needed by pwlib-devel-1.2.12-3
        openh323 =3D 1.8.0 is needed by openh323-devel-1.8.0-3
------------------------


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You have to upgrade those libs, or install a newer version of your
distribution which seems to be a bit outdated.


Le mer 04/12/2002 à 11:54, antoine a écrit :
> > What are you compiling for? Depending on your distribution, download the
> > needed RPMs from http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=5&pos=0
> > Download them to your home directory. Move all three RPMs into an empty
> > directory on your desktop. If it doesn't exist, make it (right click on
> > empty desktop  > "Create new..." > "Directory". Call it -say- RPM. Change
> > your working directory: type  (without the quotation marks) "cd RPM". The
> > prompt will then change accordingly. Type "su" (no quotation marks). You'll
> > be asked for your root password. Type it in. The prompt will change,
> > probably to #. Type "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" (no quotation marks). All three RPMs
> > will be then installed.
> > Good luck.
> > Pablo
> _______________________________________________
> Hi,
> I made exactly what you wrote up, creating a new directory "gnomeeting"  under 
> my home directory :
> and I receive this answer below ... :
> grrrr .. :-)
> antoine
> ------
> [root@localhost gnomeeting]# ls
> gnomemeeting-0.85.1-3.i386.rpm  gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386.rpm  
> pwlib-1.3.11-1.i386.rpm
> gnomemeeting-0.93.1-4.src.rpm   openh323-1.9.10-4.i386.rpm
> [root@localhost gnomeeting]# rpm -Uvh *.rpm
> error: failed dependencies:
>         GConf2 >= 1.2.0 is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libart_lgpl_2.so.2   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libbonobo-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libbonobo-activation.so.4   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libbonoboui-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgconf-2.so.4   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnome-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnomecanvas-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnomeui-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnomevfs-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         liblinc.so.1   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libORBit-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libstdc++.so.5   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libstdc++.so.5   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libstdc++.so.5   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         pwlib = 1.2.12 is needed by pwlib-devel-1.2.12-3
>         openh323 = 1.8.0 is needed by openh323-devel-1.8.0-3
> ------------------------
> 
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Is Gnome2 installed in your system? GnomeMeeting 0.9x requires Gnome 2=20
libraries.
On Wednesday 04 December 2002 11:54, antoine wrote:
> > What are you compiling for? Depending on your distribution, download =
the
> > needed RPMs from http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3D5&pos=3D=
0
> > Download them to your home directory. Move all three RPMs into an emp=
ty
> > directory on your desktop. If it doesn't exist, make it (right click =
on
> > empty desktop  > "Create new..." > "Directory". Call it -say- RPM. Ch=
ange
> > your working directory: type  (without the quotation marks) "cd RPM".=
 The
> > prompt will then change accordingly. Type "su" (no quotation marks).
> > You'll be asked for your root password. Type it in. The prompt will
> > change, probably to #. Type "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" (no quotation marks). Al=
l
> > three RPMs will be then installed.
> > Good luck.
> > Pablo
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hi,
> I made exactly what you wrote up, creating a new directory "gnomeeting"=
=20
> under my home directory :
> and I receive this answer below ... :
> grrrr .. :-)
> antoine
> ------
> [root@localhost gnomeeting]# ls
> gnomemeeting-0.85.1-3.i386.rpm  gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386.rpm
> pwlib-1.3.11-1.i386.rpm
> gnomemeeting-0.93.1-4.src.rpm   openh323-1.9.10-4.i386.rpm
> [root@localhost gnomeeting]# rpm -Uvh *.rpm
> error: failed dependencies:
>         GConf2 >=3D 1.2.0 is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libart_lgpl_2.so.2   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libbonobo-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libbonobo-activation.so.4   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libbonoboui-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgconf-2.so.4   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnome-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnomecanvas-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnomeui-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnomevfs-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         liblinc.so.1   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libORBit-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libstdc++.so.5   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-=
3
>         libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libstdc++.so.5   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libstdc++.so.5   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         pwlib =3D 1.2.12 is needed by pwlib-devel-1.2.12-3
>         openh323 =3D 1.8.0 is needed by openh323-devel-1.8.0-3
> ------------------------
>
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Hi all,


A new mailing list has been created for dicussion related to the
development of GnomeMeeting (new features, bugs, patches, fixes,
enhancements, documentation, translations,...). All people wanting to
contribute to development of GnomeMeeting are welcome to subscribe to
this new mailing list at :
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=> if you are interested to help in the development of GnomeMeeting in a
way or another, please subscribe :)

The current mailing list will of course continue to exist for user
problems, installation problems, and generic questions not related to
the development of GnomeMeeting but to its usage.

-- 
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Hi,

how do I switch on the ability to dock gnomemeeting into the taskbar under
KDE 3.0.3? In 0.85 there used to be a tick I could make in preferences I
think. If I click "start hidden" gnomemeeting doesn't show up anywhere at
all.

I compiled gnomemeeting 0.94.1 from scratch under Redhat 7.3, i.e.
non-gnome2.

Robert


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Hi !

Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2002 13:42 schrieb Robert Schmidt:

> how do I switch on the ability to dock gnomemeeting into the taskbar un=
der
> KDE 3.0.3? In 0.85 there used to be a tick I could make in preferences =
I
> think. If I click "start hidden" gnomemeeting doesn't show up anywhere =
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> all.

The gnomemeeting docklet doesn't work in kde 3.0.x because it's a new typ=
e of=20
docklet. It will work in kde 3.1 (which was to be released tomorrow, but =
had=20
to be delayed).

Matthias Marks (aka matti on #gnomemeeting)

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Hi everybody.

I have recently installed FreeBSD 4.7 on my PC with
MSI 6330 using integrated sound via VT82C686B.
I add "device pcm" in my kernel and the sound work
very well MP3,video etc...

The problem is that when i use Gnomemeeting, I can
hear my freind but it seems that there is nothing sent
on the internet when i'm talking.

Gnomemeeting gives me only this devices : /dev/dsp0.3
(which exist in the /dev

It's not a firewall probleme because i don't use it
(crazy boy !)

Could someone give me help about this ?


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Have you tried to record to make sure that your microphone works
correctly?
The fact that other applications work proves that playback s working,
but that doesn't prove that :
- your audio driver is able to do full-duplex (playing and recording at
the same time)
- your microphone is working and volumes are ok.

Hope it helps,


Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 15:58, LEZIN Lo a écrit :
> Hi everybody.
> 
> I have recently installed FreeBSD 4.7 on my PC with
> MSI 6330 using integrated sound via VT82C686B.
> I add "device pcm" in my kernel and the sound work
> very well MP3,video etc...
> 
> The problem is that when i use Gnomemeeting, I can
> hear my freind but it seems that there is nothing sent
> on the internet when i'm talking.
> 
> Gnomemeeting gives me only this devices : /dev/dsp0.3
> (which exist in the /dev
> 
> It's not a firewall probleme because i don't use it
> (crazy boy !)
> 
> Could someone give me help about this ?
> 
> 
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> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
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Damien Sandras wrote:

>Have you tried to record to make sure that your microphone works
>correctly?
>The fact that other applications work proves that playback s working,
>but that doesn't prove that :
>- your audio driver is able to do full-duplex (playing and recording at
>the same time)
>- your microphone is working and volumes are ok.
>
>Hope it helps,
>  
>

Thanks a lot for your help.

But in fact it's very strange :

cat /dev/sndstat gives me :

pcm0: <VIA VT82C686A> at io 0xdc00 irq 11 (1p/1r/0v channels duplex)

So can i think that this means that sound card is full duplex ?

I don't know how to test record and listen a the same time :-( How can i 
test it ?
In fact i  tested it with 'dd' but the sound had a low level and was 
absolutely disgusting.

I have put the mixer to 100:100 (with wmix i'm using windowmaker with no 
GNOME installed.Just the things necessary for gnomemeeting to work. I 
have used the 'ports' methode) for all but nothing more happens.




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Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 16:23, LEZIN Lo a écrit :

> 
> Thanks a lot for your help.
> 
> But in fact it's very strange :
> 
> cat /dev/sndstat gives me :
> 
> pcm0: <VIA VT82C686A> at io 0xdc00 irq 11 (1p/1r/0v channels duplex)
> 
> So can i think that this means that sound card is full duplex ?

Yes, but that doesn't mean that the driver is full-duplex.

> 
> I don't know how to test record and listen a the same time :-( How can i 
> test it ?

First try to record with rec -d /dev/dsp myfile.wav
of course, change /dev/dsp to your device.

Then, something like cat /dev/dsp > /dev/dsp should echo everything of
what you say.

> In fact i  tested it with 'dd' but the sound had a low level and was 
> absolutely disgusting.
> 

That is bad news. Under Linux, ALSA users have a switch to enable the
Mic Boost and have a better recording volume. I don't know if ALSA
exists for FreeBSD but I doubt so.

> I have put the mixer to 100:100 (with wmix i'm using windowmaker with no 
> GNOME installed.Just the things necessary for gnomemeeting to work. I 
> have used the 'ports' methode) for all but nothing more happens.
> 

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>
>
>Yes, but that doesn't mean that the driver is full-duplex.
>  
>
HOHO ! so how to know if it is full duplex?

>First try to record with rec -d /dev/dsp myfile.wav
>of course, change /dev/dsp to your device.
>  
>
Sorry what is the package which contains "rec" ?

>Then, something like cat /dev/dsp > /dev/dsp should echo everything of
>what you say.
>  
>
I tried it but nothing happens ...Does it means that it's not full-duplex ?
So where can i find a full duplex drivers for it ? And how can i install 
it if it exist ?

Thanks you for support


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Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 16:52, LEZIN Lo a écrit :
> >


> HOHO ! so how to know if it is full duplex?
> 

Testing or driver doc should tell.

> >
> Sorry what is the package which contains "rec" ?
> 

Sox on linux.

> I tried it but nothing happens ...Does it means that it's not full-duplex ?


Most probably :(

> So where can i find a full duplex drivers for it ? And how can i install 
> it if it exist ?

I don't know for FreeBSD. In that case, for linux, the solution is to
install ALSA from www.alsa-project.org .
Another solution is to buy a webcam with an internal microphone (like
Philips ToUCam Pro) and use the soundcard only for playback.

> 
> Thanks you for support

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> From: Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
> Sender: gnomemeeting-list-admin@gnome.org
> Date: 05 Dec 2002 16:35:08 +0100
> 
> Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 16:23, LEZIN Lo a écrit :
> 
> > 
> > Thanks a lot for your help.
> > 
> > But in fact it's very strange :
> > 
> > cat /dev/sndstat gives me :
> > 
> > pcm0: <VIA VT82C686A> at io 0xdc00 irq 11 (1p/1r/0v channels duplex)
> > 
> > So can i think that this means that sound card is full duplex ?
> 
> Yes, but that doesn't mean that the driver is full-duplex.

I have exactly the same problem with FreeBSD 4.7. I see it on three
different systems all running with embedded Intel ICH sound
devices. All are duplex and the drivers claim to be full-duplex. 

> > I don't know how to test record and listen a the same time :-( How can i 
> > test it ?
> 
> First try to record with rec -d /dev/dsp myfile.wav
> of course, change /dev/dsp to your device.

This works fine (as far as I can tell). But when I try to paly back,
the sound is badly garbled! Does what is sometimes called
"motor-boating" and plays back VERY slowly in tenth second (time is an
estimate/guess) intervals, although it is just barely recognizable.

> Then, something like cat /dev/dsp > /dev/dsp should echo everything of
> what you say.

It does, but, like the output of rec(1), it plays back very slowly
like it is playing a tenth second of data, pausing a tenth second and
then playing another tenth second of data. It is just recognizable.

On the other hand, if I use the Gnome Sound Recorder, I can record and
playback just fine. If I play back the .wav file I generated, it
sounds just like when I cat'ed it to /dev/dsp. And, If I play back a
file recored by the Gnome Sound recorder, I hear horrible squawking,
not at all like what I get going the other way.

Clearly there is some sound problem here, but I am very confused by
the conflicting results of my tests. And, when I try to send audio
with GnomeMeeting, I get absolutely no sound, garbled or otherwise.

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
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I have no clue about FreeBSD, but perhaps Roger will answer.


Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 17:18, Kevin Oberman a écrit :
> > From: Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
> > Sender: gnomemeeting-list-admin@gnome.org
> > Date: 05 Dec 2002 16:35:08 +0100
> > 
> > Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 16:23, LEZIN Lo a écrit :
> > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks a lot for your help.
> > > 
> > > But in fact it's very strange :
> > > 
> > > cat /dev/sndstat gives me :
> > > 
> > > pcm0: <VIA VT82C686A> at io 0xdc00 irq 11 (1p/1r/0v channels duplex)
> > > 
> > > So can i think that this means that sound card is full duplex ?
> > 
> > Yes, but that doesn't mean that the driver is full-duplex.
> 
> I have exactly the same problem with FreeBSD 4.7. I see it on three
> different systems all running with embedded Intel ICH sound
> devices. All are duplex and the drivers claim to be full-duplex. 
> 
> > > I don't know how to test record and listen a the same time :-( How can i 
> > > test it ?
> > 
> > First try to record with rec -d /dev/dsp myfile.wav
> > of course, change /dev/dsp to your device.
> 
> This works fine (as far as I can tell). But when I try to paly back,
> the sound is badly garbled! Does what is sometimes called
> "motor-boating" and plays back VERY slowly in tenth second (time is an
> estimate/guess) intervals, although it is just barely recognizable.
> 
> > Then, something like cat /dev/dsp > /dev/dsp should echo everything of
> > what you say.
> 
> It does, but, like the output of rec(1), it plays back very slowly
> like it is playing a tenth second of data, pausing a tenth second and
> then playing another tenth second of data. It is just recognizable.
> 
> On the other hand, if I use the Gnome Sound Recorder, I can record and
> playback just fine. If I play back the .wav file I generated, it
> sounds just like when I cat'ed it to /dev/dsp. And, If I play back a
> file recored by the Gnome Sound recorder, I hear horrible squawking,
> not at all like what I get going the other way.
> 
> Clearly there is some sound problem here, but I am very confused by
> the conflicting results of my tests. And, when I try to send audio
> with GnomeMeeting, I get absolutely no sound, garbled or otherwise.
> 
> R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
> Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
> Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
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Hi,

With a MDK 9.0 and gnomemeeting  0.95 version,
Gnome 2.0, its working ok.
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I have tested rec -d /dev/dsp while player a mp3 whith xmms... and a get 
an horrible destroyed sound while i record during listening. I mean 
"Sting was not the same as always ..." ;-)

So i think that full-duplex is not implemented in the kernel's default 
drivers.

So does anyone know someting about a full-duplex driver for Freebsd on 
VT82C686C  (or for any other ...to help us)

Or did someone tested ALSA under FreeBSD (if it's possible... ;-)).



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Le Jeudi 5 D=C3=A9cembre 2002 18:46, antoine a =C3=A9crit :
Tu as bien du savoir faire!
Moi cela ne marche pas du tout.
Je suis aussi sous MDK 9, en ADSL, ens standalone (pas de reseau ni firew=
all),
gnome icu marche bien, sendmail, aussi et tout le reste aussi.
Un telnet ils.seconix.com m 389 repond que la connection se fait,=20
Gomemeeting ne repond pas du tout.
je me pose des questions sans r=C3=A9ponse, quelle est ta config logiciel=
le?=20

> Hi,
>
> With a MDK 9.0 and gnomemeeting  0.95 version,
> Gnome 2.0, its working ok.
> antoine
>
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Hi,

This is an english-speaking mailing list, not a french speaking mailing
list. Moreover, when you have a problem, there are 2 things to do:
- read the FAQ
- if it doesn't work, mail the mailing list in english with a
description of the problem. "GnomeMeeting doesn't answer" (I translated)
doesn't mean anything to me. There are many people on ILS who do not
answer calls, like me for example.

Thanks to be more precise when asking questions, and to use the language
of the mailing list.


Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 21:13, Patrick a écrit :
> Le Jeudi 5 Décembre 2002 18:46, antoine a écrit :
> Tu as bien du savoir faire!
> Moi cela ne marche pas du tout.
> Je suis aussi sous MDK 9, en ADSL, ens standalone (pas de reseau ni firewall),
> gnome icu marche bien, sendmail, aussi et tout le reste aussi.
> Un telnet ils.seconix.com m 389 repond que la connection se fait, 
> Gomemeeting ne repond pas du tout.
> je me pose des questions sans réponse, quelle est ta config logicielle? 

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What possibilities do I have to talk to someone on GM, and at the same time play low music or at least get sound notifications occasionally?
I have learned that GM can't be used with a esd, for a reason I have forgotten. But are there any alternatives? Or will it be possible some other way in the future?
I was told something about soundcards with two dsp (I think that's correct) but I don't have such a card. No way to do this on software level?

Hakon




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Sorry if this is slightly off-topic ...

I'm trying to set up my creative webcam (ct6840) on freebsd 4.7-RELEASE. It 
seems to be working ok - apps like 'vid' can take a snap.

Unfortunately gnomemeeting only lets me choose between /dev/bktr and 
/dev/meteor for the camera device, and my cam identifies itself as ugen0 
(just the generic usb device). Looking at the man pages for bktr and meteor, 
neither of these would seem suitable.

The best I could think of was to try making /dev/bktr0 a symbolic link to 
/dev/ugen0, but that didn't work.

Looking through google, it seems a few other people have had this problem 
too. Unfortunately noone seemed to have an answer.

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Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 19:14, Hakon G a écrit :
> What possibilities do I have to talk to someone on GM, and at the same time play low music or at least get sound notifications occasionally?

No way, and it would be very unpolite ;-)

> I have learned that GM can't be used with a esd, for a reason I have forgotten. But are there any alternatives? Or will it be possible some other way in the future?
> I was told something about soundcards with two dsp (I think that's correct) but I don't have such a card. No way to do this on software level?
> 

It will work when someone will implement dynamic output to esd and
artsdsp in pwlib, or when Gnome and KDE will finally choose a common
sound daemon.


> Hakon

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Hi Pete

> Unfortunately gnomemeeting only lets me choose between /dev/bktr and
> /dev/meteor for the camera device

That is because these are the only devices you can use. :-(

FreeBSD does not have device drivers for any USB cameras and so
GnomeMeeting cannot grab live video from them.

The 'vid' program works because it has chunks of the linux ov511 driver
embedded in.

So right now, there is no way to do anything with GnomeMeetin and USB
cameras.

Roger



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Hi there

Can you try someting for me on your FreeBSD box.

1) built the ohphone application from the Ports tree
(or compile from source if you want)

2) make a call from ohphone with the -t option
This enables tracing.
eg ohphone -n -t remote.server.name


The trace lots are printed on screen. See if there is a line which says
 codec.cxx (nnn) Codec  Read truncated frame of raw data. Wanted xxx and got
yyy

If you see this error message (like I do) then it is showing up a bug in the
audio drivers.
If you do get this, I can chat to Cameron and Orion (the sound driver
developers)#
and try and get a fix.
I've also got a fix for the pwlib library which works around this kernel
bug.

Roger
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gnomemeeting --debug=1 
should have the same effect...



Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 22:19, Roger Hardiman a écrit :
> Hi there
> 
> Can you try someting for me on your FreeBSD box.
> 
> 1) built the ohphone application from the Ports tree
> (or compile from source if you want)
> 
> 2) make a call from ohphone with the -t option
> This enables tracing.
> eg ohphone -n -t remote.server.name
> 
> 
> The trace lots are printed on screen. See if there is a line which says
>  codec.cxx (nnn) Codec  Read truncated frame of raw data. Wanted xxx and got
> yyy
> 
> If you see this error message (like I do) then it is showing up a bug in the
> audio drivers.
> If you do get this, I can chat to Cameron and Orion (the sound driver
> developers)#
> and try and get a fix.
> I've also got a fix for the pwlib library which works around this kernel
> bug.
> 
> Roger
> --
> Roger Hardiman
> roger@freebsd.org
> FreeBSD, OpenH323 and GnomeMeeting projects.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
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Le Jeudi 5 D=E9cembre 2002 21:23, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
Vous m'en voyez fort marri !
C'est bien la premi=E8re fois que ma langue maternelle m'exposait =E0 un =
reproche!=20
Je refuse de parler l'anglais (je ne connais que le latin et le grec=20
ancien!...)
J'ai l'honneur de vous saluer.

Patrick Castero ar Haliguen
Bretagne, France=20

(Si c'est cela l'europe...)

> Hi,
>
> This is an english-speaking mailing list, not a french speaking mailing
> list. Moreover, when you have a problem, there are 2 things to do:
> - read the FAQ
> - if it doesn't work, mail the mailing list in english with a
> description of the problem. "GnomeMeeting doesn't answer" (I translated=
)
> doesn't mean anything to me. There are many people on ILS who do not
> answer calls, like me for example.
>
> Thanks to be more precise when asking questions, and to use the languag=
e
> of the mailing list.
>
> Le jeu 05/12/2002 =E0 21:13, Patrick a =E9crit :
> > Le Jeudi 5 D=E9cembre 2002 18:46, antoine a =E9crit :
> > Tu as bien du savoir faire!
> > Moi cela ne marche pas du tout.
> > Je suis aussi sous MDK 9, en ADSL, ens standalone (pas de reseau ni
> > firewall), gnome icu marche bien, sendmail, aussi et tout le reste au=
ssi.
> > Un telnet ils.seconix.com m 389 repond que la connection se fait,
> > Gomemeeting ne repond pas du tout.
> > je me pose des questions sans r=E9ponse, quelle est ta config logicie=
lle?


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Le Jeudi 5 D=C3=A9cembre 2002 20:13, Patrick a =C3=A9crit :
> Le Jeudi 5 D=C3=A9cembre 2002 18:46, antoine a =C3=A9crit :
> Tu as bien du savoir faire!
> Moi cela ne marche pas du tout.
> Je suis aussi sous MDK 9, en ADSL, ens standalone (pas de reseau ni
> firewall), gnome icu marche bien, sendmail, aussi et tout le reste auss=
i.
> Un telnet ils.seconix.com m 389 repond que la connection se fait,
> Gomemeeting ne repond pas du tout.
> je me pose des questions sans r=C3=A9ponse, quelle est ta config logici=
elle?
-----------------------------------
>> Hi,
> > > With a MDK 9.0 and gnomemeeting  0.95 version,
> > Gnome 2.0, its working ok.
> > antoine
--------------------------
STRANGE !
it works pretty good with MDK 9.0 and GM 0.95 ... with no particular=20
configuration to do ...
tell us what are your preferences in the config menu of GM ?
bye
antoine

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Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 21:49, Patrick a écrit :
> Le Jeudi 5 Décembre 2002 21:23, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> Vous m'en voyez fort marri !
> C'est bien la première fois que ma langue maternelle m'exposait à un reproche! 
> Je refuse de parler l'anglais (je ne connais que le latin et le grec 
> ancien!...)
> J'ai l'honneur de vous saluer.
> 
> Patrick Castero ar Haliguen
> Bretagne, France 
> 
> (Si c'est cela l'europe...)

Europe is respecting others, respecting others means trying to speak in
their language and not considering France as the center of the world.
You are sending a mail in french to a mailing list where more than 98%
of the subscribers won't understand anything.
If you are "refusing" to speak english, then don't mail.


-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2002 21:49 schrieb Patrick:
> Le Jeudi 5 D=E9cembre 2002 21:23, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> Vous m'en voyez fort marri !
> C'est bien la premi=E8re fois que ma langue maternelle m'exposait =E0 u=
n
> reproche! Je refuse de parler l'anglais (je ne connais que le latin et =
le
> grec ancien!...)
> J'ai l'honneur de vous saluer.
>
> Patrick Castero ar Haliguen
> Bretagne, France
>
> (Si c'est cela l'europe...)

Ich verstehe =FCberhaupt nicht, worum es hier geht...

Matti

P.S. SCNR ;)

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Le Jeudi 5 D=E9cembre 2002 20:49, Patrick a =E9crit :
> Le Jeudi 5 D=E9cembre 2002 21:23, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> Vous m'en voyez fort marri !
> C'est bien la premi=E8re fois que ma langue maternelle m'exposait =E0 u=
n
> reproche! Je refuse de parler l'anglais (je ne connais que le latin et =
le
> grec ancien!...)
> J'ai l'honneur de vous saluer.
> Patrick Castero ar Haliguen
> Bretagne, France
> (Si c'est cela l'europe...)
>Patrick <castero@free.fr>
------------------
> (je ne connais que le latin et le > grec ancien!...)
and the french  too ... I see.
baaah, to speak english is not a shame ... there are a lot of common poin=
ts=20
between la Bretagne de France and Great Britain , that belongs to Europe =
=2E..
Why do you refuse to speak the living Shakespeare's language ?
latin and old greek are "dead" languages !
antoine

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Hejsa allesammen

Jeg synes I alle er helt forkerte på den! Hverken engelsk eller fransk
er særligt smukke sprog, og jeg nægter derfor at tale eller skrive på
disse sprog.

Derfor vil jeg opfordre verdens befolkning til at udelukkende tale
dansk, og hvis ikke... ja, så må I sgu sejle i jeres egen sø!

O.k. islandsk, norsk og tildels svensk kan vel accepteres :)

Farvel!

-- 
Kenneth Rohde Christiansen <kenneth@gnu.org>

(Btw, please consider all this as a big joke)


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A question:

i am using gnomemeeting, but my camera chipset is Divio NW801, i can't find its driver for linux.
Does Anybody keep the driver?  please give me one ,thank you!

and i want to change a camera which has the linux driver , but i don't know which one can have this , if you are using, please tell me the information so i can go to buy it, thanks!
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On Fri, 06 Dec 2002 09:14:01 +0800
truename <faithdongmei@sina.com> wrote:

> A question:
> 
> i am using gnomemeeting, but my camera chipset is Divio NW801, i can't
> find its driver for linux. Does Anybody keep the driver?  please give
> me one ,thank you!

Google is Your friend :-) http://nw802.sourceforge.net/

> and i want to change a camera which has the linux driver , but i don't
> know which one can have this , if you are using, please tell me the
> information so i can go to buy it,
> thanks!

I recomend You philips webcams which are great supported under linux
:-)) More info is avaible at: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/

				Artur

-- 
Zawsze kiedy jest problem, jest jakie¶ rozwi±zanie;
 zatem je¶li nie ma rozwi±zania, nie ma problemu.

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Hi all:
    I am using gnomemeeting under RH7.2. The video chip in my USB webcam is Divio NW802. 
    I downloadded the sourcecode of its driver from  sourceforge.com. The compilation was OK and the modules were inserted successfully. GM also has no problem to find the dev and open it. But the problem is that there is nothing grabbed. Only GM logo's on the screen.
    I changed the image format and compiled again but this won't help either.
    I am really mad about this. Could anyone help? Any advice is welcome. 

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Le ven 06/12/2002 à 02:31, Saint Forest a écrit :
> Hi all:
>     I am using gnomemeeting under RH7.2. The video chip in my USB webcam is Divio NW802. 
>     I downloadded the sourcecode of its driver from  sourceforge.com. The compilation was OK and the modules were inserted successfully. GM also has no problem to find the dev and open it. But the problem is that there is nothing grabbed. Only GM logo's on the screen.
>     I changed the image format and compiled again but this won't help either.
>     I am really mad about this. Could anyone help? Any advice is welcome. 
> 
> Thanks in advance                                

We could perhaps give a hint if you give the error message. Without
error message it is hard to help·

More generally, you can read this:
http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3&pos=0#AEN291


Most probably that your webcam driver doesn't support the video format
and colors required by gnomemeeting.
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This is probably a stupid question but comes from someone that knows 
little about Linux
but wants to know a little more ...

The gnomemeeting-latest and gnomemeeting-2002-12-... files under 
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the
configure file .How are they installed?

Tank you .

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I just installed Gnomemeeting on SuSE 8.1 - It seems to connect to directory, 
but I can't see any listings of other people - it just says I have to 
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Le ven 06/12/2002 à 01:28, Rob Tow a écrit :
> I just installed Gnomemeeting on SuSE 8.1 - It seems to connect to directory, 
> but I can't see any listings of other people - it just says I have to 
> register - but I thought the set-up tool registered me?
> 

You have to fill in your details in the configuration assistant when
GnomeMeeting starts.

Another way to do it is to fill in your Details in Personal Data in the
preferences, then to go in the Directories section and to "Enable
Registering" below the text entry where ils.seconix.com is displayed.

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Hello,

if you are new to Linux, perhaps it is not a good idea to try to compile
gnomemeeting from CVS, you will also need to take latest stable versions
of openh323 and pwlib on openh323.org/bin

If you still want to do it, autogen.sh behaves exactly the same as
configure, just run it like you would run configure.

Le ven 06/12/2002 à 01:07, João Pedro a écrit :
> This is probably a stupid question but comes from someone that knows 
> little about Linux
> but wants to know a little more ...
> 
> The gnomemeeting-latest and gnomemeeting-2002-12-... files under 
> http://www.gnomemeeting.org/admin/downloads/latest/snapshots/ don't have 
> the
> configure file .How are they installed?
> 
> Tank you .
> 
> J.Pedro
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   I'm using gm with a Swyx gatekeeper/gateway software, and a quicknet PCI 
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Local calls to swyxware clients all have very good quality and a medium (1/2 
second) delay. But when I call someone outside (through the gateway) the 
incoming sound (i.e. that from outside to GM) sounds fine, but the outgoing 
(from GM to outside).
How can i check which codecs are used ? I did try to disable all low bandwith 
codecs, but same result.
Also, i don't think that the gateway is the problem, because i have a Siemens 
TA1100 right here, which is basicly GM+quicknet in hardware, a POTS to VoIP 
converter, which only speeks H.323 and works perfectly fine with swxy.

Any ideas ?

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    Michael
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You can check what codec is used in the "General History".
The best to use when you have a Quicknet card is G.723.1.


Le ven 06/12/2002 à 09:36, Michael Glauche a écrit :

> Hi,
>    I'm using gm with a Swyx gatekeeper/gateway software, and a quicknet PCI 
> internet linejack. 
> Local calls to swyxware clients all have very good quality and a medium (1/2 
> second) delay. But when I call someone outside (through the gateway) the 
> incoming sound (i.e. that from outside to GM) sounds fine, but the outgoing 
> (from GM to outside).
> How can i check which codecs are used ? I did try to disable all low bandwith 
> codecs, but same result.
> Also, i don't think that the gateway is the problem, because i have a Siemens 
> TA1100 right here, which is basicly GM+quicknet in hardware, a POTS to VoIP 
> converter, which only speeks H.323 and works perfectly fine with swxy.
> 
> Any ideas ?
> 

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Am Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 10:54 schrieb Damien Sandras:
> You can check what codec is used in the "General History".
> The best to use when you have a Quicknet card is G.723.1.
>

11:13:30 Calling 09200xxx
11:13:31 Attaching lid hardware to codec
11:13:31 Started New Logical Channel...
11:13:31 Receiving G.723.1{hw}
11:13:31 Attaching lid hardware to codec
11:13:31 Started New Logical Channel...
11:13:31 Sending G.723.1{hw}
11:13:31 Disabled silence detection for G.723.1{hw}
11:13:46 Fast start enabled
11:13:46 H.245 Tunnelling disabled
11:13:46 Connected with 09200415  using Swyx IpPbxSrv	4.01 
11:14:01 Remote party has cleared the call
11:14:01 Call duration: 00:00:15


so, i'm using G.723.1, but the sending qualtiy is still very bad. they say the 
sound is hacked into chucks .., no constant sending. Silence detection is 
disabled. 
Is there any way to regulate volume on the quicknet device ? I allways hear 
the remote party way too loud ...

regards,
        Michael

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Hello,

I run SuSE 8 with ALSA v0.9.0rc3 installed. Soundcard is a via 686. Recog=
nized=20
audio devices are 0: VIA82C686A (DUPLEX) and 1:USB Audio; recognized mixe=
rs=20
are 0: ICEnsemble ICE1232 and 1:USB Mixer.=20

I've succesfully upgraded to Gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3. Video is perfect. Whe=
n=20
answering an incoming call, I am able to get incoming sound only. When tr=
ying=20
to call someone at ils.seconix.com, I get the following error message:
"Could not open audio channel for audio transmission (soundcard busy?)=20
Disabling audio transmission."  I use a Philips ToUCam: devices are set t=
o:
Audio Player: /dev/dsp0
Player Mixer: /dev/mixer0
Audio Recorder: /dev/dsp1
Recorder Mixer: /dev/mixer1
Doing cat /dev/dsp1 > /dev/dsp0 works flawlessly.
I use KDE. aRts is not enabled, and snd-mixer-oss, snd-pcm-oss and audio=20
modules are already installed.
When launching GM, I get the following modprobe messages:

Dec  5 23:02:07 linux modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-=
3
Dec  5 23:02:07 linux modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module=20
sound-service-3-3
Dec  5 23:08:05 linux kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout

When I received these messages, I'd already applied the fix that SuSE's=20
Support Database provides for the timeout problem.=20
Any ideas? Thanks for your help.

Pablo Ortuzar



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Le ven 06/12/2002 à 11:16, Michael Glauche a écrit :
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> 
> so, i'm using G.723.1, but the sending qualtiy is still very bad. they say the 
> sound is hacked into chucks .., no constant sending. Silence detection is 
> disabled. 


Do they have a good jitter buffer?

> Is there any way to regulate volume on the quicknet device ? I allways hear 
> the remote party way too loud ...
> 

Perhaps is it a volume problem in that case, I have not implemented a
way yet to change the volume. It will be done soon :)

> regards,
>         Michael

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What module are you using for the ToUCam microphone?
snd-usb-audio?

If it is the case, unload it and use the standard audio kernel module
instead (modprobe 'audio').


Le ven 06/12/2002 à 11:39, Pablo Ortúzar a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> I run SuSE 8 with ALSA v0.9.0rc3 installed. Soundcard is a via 686. Recognized 
> audio devices are 0: VIA82C686A (DUPLEX) and 1:USB Audio; recognized mixers 
> are 0: ICEnsemble ICE1232 and 1:USB Mixer. 
> 
> I've succesfully upgraded to Gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3. Video is perfect. When 
> answering an incoming call, I am able to get incoming sound only. When trying 
> to call someone at ils.seconix.com, I get the following error message:
> "Could not open audio channel for audio transmission (soundcard busy?) 
> Disabling audio transmission."  I use a Philips ToUCam: devices are set to:
> Audio Player: /dev/dsp0
> Player Mixer: /dev/mixer0
> Audio Recorder: /dev/dsp1
> Recorder Mixer: /dev/mixer1
> Doing cat /dev/dsp1 > /dev/dsp0 works flawlessly.
> I use KDE. aRts is not enabled, and snd-mixer-oss, snd-pcm-oss and audio 
> modules are already installed.
> When launching GM, I get the following modprobe messages:
> 
> Dec  5 23:02:07 linux modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-3
> Dec  5 23:02:07 linux modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module 
> sound-service-3-3
> Dec  5 23:08:05 linux kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
> 
> When I received these messages, I'd already applied the fix that SuSE's 
> Support Database provides for the timeout problem. 
> Any ideas? Thanks for your help.
> 
> Pablo Ortuzar
> 
> 
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Am Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 11:57 schrieb Damien Sandras:
> Le ven 06/12/2002 =E0 11:16, Michael Glauche a =E9crit :
> >
> > so, i'm using G.723.1, but the sending qualtiy is still very bad. they
> > say the sound is hacked into chucks .., no constant sending. Silence
> > detection is disabled.
>
> Do they have a good jitter buffer?

I guess so, as all other clients (even the old TA1100 i did mention b4) wor=
k=20
very well ..
GM's jitter buffer is set to :
minimal: 20
maximal: 500

GSM Frames/Packet: 5
G.711 Frames/Packet: 30

Any way i could get more info about this ? tcpdump ?

Also, this happens in local net, with nearly no traffic, everything switche=
d,=20
ping time to the gateway 0,3 ms ...=20

regards,
           Michael
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Le ven 06/12/2002 à 12:02, Michael Glauche a écrit :

> I guess so, as all other clients (even the old TA1100 i did mention b4) work 
> very well ..
> GM's jitter buffer is set to :
> minimal: 20
> maximal: 500
> 
> GSM Frames/Packet: 5
> G.711 Frames/Packet: 30
> 
> Any way i could get more info about this ? tcpdump ?
> 

I don't think it would help. Can you try with ohphone to see if it is
GnomeMeeting specific or OpenH323 specific?

> Also, this happens in local net, with nearly no traffic, everything switched, 
> ping time to the gateway 0,3 ms ... 
> 

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Other info you could provide is:
- is the sound quality bad too when you are not using the gateway and
directly connecting to another client? If the sound quality is bad only
when you are using the gateway, then it must be due to an
incompatibility of the gateway with GM/OpenH323. In that case I could
ask for advice to Equivalence.

- are you sure it is not simply a question of recording volume?


> 
> I don't think it would help. Can you try with ohphone to see if it is
> GnomeMeeting specific or OpenH323 specific?
>  
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Am Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 14:35 schrieb Damien Sandras:
> Other info you could provide is:
> - is the sound quality bad too when you are not using the gateway and
> directly connecting to another client? If the sound quality is bad only
> when you are using the gateway, then it must be due to an
> incompatibility of the gateway with GM/OpenH323. In that case I could
> ask for advice to Equivalence.

did wrote so in original email :P gm to local client is very good, with 1/2 
sec lag.

> - are you sure it is not simply a question of recording volume?

yes. that would be distortion, not hacked voice ..


> > I don't think it would help. Can you try with ohphone to see if it is
> > GnomeMeeting specific or OpenH323 specific?

I'll try later ...

regards,
       Michael


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Roger,

Eureka! It finally works! This one line hack did the trick.

Thanks for all of your help. Now I just need a camera and to try to
remember to re-apply the patch when openh323 is updated!

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> From: "Roger Hardiman" <roger@telepresence.dmem.strath.ac.uk>
> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 08:33:46 -0000
> 
> Hi
> 
> > I built both from the ports. (Of course, that is from sources.) I did
> > not install the packages.
> 
> Great.
> 
> oh, just a quick question. Do you have ESD or ARTS running - these are the
> sound daemons in
> gnome and kde and interfere with recording (and playback)
> 
> Now, for the patch
> Ok. What you need to do is recompile pwlib and then ohphone and gnomemeeting
> with a small change
> 
> lets do this...
> 1) cd /usr/ports/net/gnomemeeting
> 2) make clean
> 3) cd /usr/orts/net/ohphone
> 4) make clean
> 5) cd /usr/ports/net/openh323
> 6) make clean
> 7) make patch
> (this patches the source, but does not compile it)
> 8) edit the file work/pwlib/src/ptlib/unix/oss.cxx
> 9) look for the function (the method)
>   BOOL PSoundChannel::Read(...) {
> 
> In this code is a like this
>   if (lastReadCount != len)
> 
> 10) Now add the hack.
> Add a new line of code immediatly before the if (lastReadCount != len) line
> and put
>    lastReadCount = len;
> 
> 11) compile the openh323 port
> 12) compile the ohphone port
> 13) compile the gnomemeeting port
> 
> 
> 
> Roger
> 
> 

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Ok, Damien

I followed your advice and went for the gnomemeeting-0.94.2.tar.gz at 
0.94.2... dir
but still no success...
First  I have to state that I already experimented version 0.94.1 from
 gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386.rpm but I just wanted to upgrade and see the 
changes ...
I'm using Linux version 2.4.19 (root@peterpan) (gcc version 3.2 20020903 
(Red Hat Linux 8.0 3.2-7)),
openh323-1.9.10-4 and pwlib-1.3.11-1.

I tried the  ./configure from gnomemeeting-0.94.2 dir and it reported 
some missing libs and
probably pkgconfig not being installed .I checked and the libs where 
there and pkgconfig was not,
so I downloaded and decompressed pkgconfig-0.14.0.tar.gz and run 
./configure from it's dir .
I noticed a few "...no  " from the output and checked it out :
checking for working aclocal-1.4... missing
checking for working autoconf... missing
checking for working automake-1.4... missing
checking for working autoheader... missing
checking for working makeinfo... missing

So, I installed autoconf-2.53-8 and automake-1.6.3-1 from the rpm's in 
the distro cd's
( I didn't find rpm's for the others ) and run config again .
Here is the same part afterwords :

checking for working aclocal-1.4... missing
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake-1.4... missing
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... missing
 
( I realize it looks for automake-1.4... and I installed 1.6.3 ... )

I think this is why, after configure, make and make install the only .pc 
files
I have in the system is gnome-mime-data-2.0.pc at /usr/lib/pkgconfig and 
therefore
configuring  gnomemeeting isn't working .
Here's the last part of the output :

checking for pkg-config... /usr/local/bin/pkg-config
checking for libgnomeui-2.0 >= 1.112.0 linc >= 0.5.0 libbonobo-2.0 >= 
2.0.0 esound >= 0.2.28... Pack      age libgnomeui-2.0 was not found in 
the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libgnomeui-2.0.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'libgnomeui-2.0' found

configure: error: Library requirements (libgnomeui-2.0 >= 1.112.0 linc 
 >= 0.5.0 libbonobo-2.0 >= 2.0      .0 esound >= 0.2.28) not met; 
consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your 
li      braries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.

How would I adjust the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable and would 
that solve the problem?
The mentioned libraries are all installed from the distro rpm's in the 
/usr/lib dir ...

I would appreciate a little help .

Thanks .

P.S. : If you need the full output from configuring pkgconfig let me 
know and I'll post it
right away .


Damien Sandras wrote:

>Hello,
>
>if you are new to Linux, perhaps it is not a good idea to try to compile
>gnomemeeting from CVS, you will also need to take latest stable versions
>of openh323 and pwlib on openh323.org/bin
>
>If you still want to do it, autogen.sh behaves exactly the same as
>configure, just run it like you would run configure.
>
>Le ven 06/12/2002 à 01:07, João Pedro a écrit :
>  
>
>>This is probably a stupid question but comes from someone that knows 
>>little about Linux
>>but wants to know a little more ...
>>
>>The gnomemeeting-latest and gnomemeeting-2002-12-... files under 
>>http://www.gnomemeeting.org/admin/downloads/latest/snapshots/ don't have 
>>the
>>configure file .How are they installed?
>>
>>Tank you .
>>
>>J.Pedro
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
>>GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
>>http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
>>    
>>
>
>
>  
>




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On Friday 06 December 2002 00:29, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Le ven 06/12/2002 à 01:28, Rob Tow a écrit :
> > I just installed Gnomemeeting on SuSE 8.1 - It seems to connect to
> > directory, but I can't see any listings of other people - it just says I
> > have to register - but I thought the set-up tool registered me?
>
> You have to fill in your details in the configuration assistant when
> GnomeMeeting starts.
>
> Another way to do it is to fill in your Details in Personal Data in the
> preferences, then to go in the Directories section and to "Enable
> Registering" below the text entry where ils.seconix.com is displayed.

I have done both of the above, and it still does not work.

Do I need to fill in the gatekeeper ID? Right now it is on automatic discover 
- and there is an error message on start-up that says "no gatekeeper found".

I do get the message in the history log "Successfully registerd to ILS 
directory ilsseconix.com, port 389"


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Le ven 06/12/2002 à 16:35, João Pedro a écrit :
> Ok, Damien
> 
> I followed your advice and went for the gnomemeeting-0.94.2.tar.gz at 
> 0.94.2... dir
> but still no success...

I think you are not in the right directory.
You should use binary packages from the download section on the website.
Choose "Download" on the left.


> First  I have to state that I already experimented version 0.94.1 from
>  gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386.rpm but I just wanted to upgrade and see the 
> changes ...
> I'm using Linux version 2.4.19 (root@peterpan) (gcc version 3.2 20020903 
> (Red Hat Linux 8.0 3.2-7)),
> openh323-1.9.10-4 and pwlib-1.3.11-1.
> 
> I tried the  ./configure from gnomemeeting-0.94.2 dir and it reported 
> some missing libs and


Don't use 0.94.2, it never existed really, it was there by mistake.
Use either 0.94.1 stable, or CVS, ie the nightly snapshot.


> checking for pkg-config... /usr/local/bin/pkg-config
> checking for libgnomeui-2.0 >= 1.112.0 linc >= 0.5.0 libbonobo-2.0 >= 
> 2.0.0 esound >= 0.2.28... Pack      age libgnomeui-2.0 was not found in 
> the pkg-config search path.
> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libgnomeui-2.0.pc'
> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
> No package 'libgnomeui-2.0' found
> 
> configure: error: Library requirements (libgnomeui-2.0 >= 1.112.0 linc 
>  >= 0.5.0 libbonobo-2.0 >= 2.0      .0 esound >= 0.2.28) not met; 
> consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your 
> li      braries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
> 
> How would I adjust the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable and would 
> that solve the problem?


No it means that the mentionned libraries are not installed.

> The mentioned libraries are all installed from the distro rpm's in the 
> /usr/lib dir ...
> 


You probably installed the libs in binary form, but not the devel rpms.
You also need the devel rpms to be able to compile.

If you have redhat 8.0, a RPM of the nightly snapshot is available on
request on irc.gnome.org, #gnomemeeting.


> I would appreciate a little help .
> 
> Thanks .
> 
> P.S. : If you need the full output from configuring pkgconfig let me 
> know and I'll post it
> right away .
> 
> 
> Damien Sandras wrote:
> 
> >Hello,
> >
> >if you are new to Linux, perhaps it is not a good idea to try to compile
> >gnomemeeting from CVS, you will also need to take latest stable versions
> >of openh323 and pwlib on openh323.org/bin
> >
> >If you still want to do it, autogen.sh behaves exactly the same as
> >configure, just run it like you would run configure.
> >
> >Le ven 06/12/2002 à 01:07, João Pedro a écrit :
> >  
> >
> >>This is probably a stupid question but comes from someone that knows 
> >>little about Linux
> >>but wants to know a little more ...
> >>
> >>The gnomemeeting-latest and gnomemeeting-2002-12-... files under 
> >>http://www.gnomemeeting.org/admin/downloads/latest/snapshots/ don't have 
> >>the
> >>configure file .How are they installed?
> >>
> >>Tank you .
> >>
> >>J.Pedro
> >>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> >>GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> >>http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> >>    
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Le ven 06/12/2002 à 17:57, Rob Tow a écrit :

> 
> I have done both of the above, and it still does not work.
> 

Try to upgrade GnomeMeeting and see if it fixes the problem.
I think Suse 8.1 is still shipping with an antic GnomeMeeting version.

> Do I need to fill in the gatekeeper ID? Right now it is on automatic discover 
> - and there is an error message on start-up that says "no gatekeeper found".
> 

No need to fill in Gatekeeper if you don't have a H.323 Gatekeeper on
your LAN.

> I do get the message in the history log "Successfully registerd to ILS 
> directory ilsseconix.com, port 389"
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Hi,
When I start "gnomemeeting", connnected on internet,
the first image appears and all is stalled ,  I cannot stop
gnomemeeting ... only by kill -9 n=B0 ps !
If I open Gnomemeeting, internet disconnected, all the windows open
normally.
quid ?
thanks
antoine

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Hi,
> When I start "gnomemeeting", connnected on internet,
> the first image appears and all is stalled ,  I cannot stop
> gnomemeeting ... only by kill -9 n=B0 ps !
> If I open Gnomemeeting, internet disconnected, all the windows open
> normally.
> quid ?
> thanks
> antoine
-----------------------------------------
and now :
-----
(gnomemeeting:2029): Gtk-CRITICAL **: file ../../gtk/gtktextbuffer.c: lin=
e 476=20
(gtk_text_buffer_emit_insert): assertion `g_utf8_validate (text, len, NUL=
L)'=20
failed
------------------
when i send a message ...

thanks

antoine



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I suggest you to go on irc.gnome.org, #gnomemeeting, people there will
help you to make GnomeMeeting work for you forever :)


Le ven 06/12/2002 à 18:41, antoine a écrit :
> Hi,
> When I start "gnomemeeting", connnected on internet,
> the first image appears and all is stalled ,  I cannot stop
> gnomemeeting ... only by kill -9 n° ps !
> If I open Gnomemeeting, internet disconnected, all the windows open
> normally.
> quid ?
> thanks
> antoine
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I deleted Gnomemeeting, and re-installed it from the web site. Several 
libraries needed to be (re)installed, too (this was for SuSE 8.1). Now it 
works.

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Hello all,

I've just compiled successfully the Quicknet linux driver for for the
PHONEJACK-PCI card (ixj.o and phonedev.o).

I've installed the Gnomemeeting CVS (nightly snapshot, v0.95) from packages in
.deb format. Thank you very much for giving .deb packages for Debian
users like me.

My question is how to configure the Quicknet card on Gnomemeeting Menu ?
Here is what I did:

  - go to "Edit > Preferences" to get the GM menu configuration popup,
  - go to "Audio codecs", disable all codecs proposed in list,
  
  - get down to "Device > Audio",
  - in the section "Quicknet Device", I enable "* Use the Quicknet Device"

So, 
  - is it normal that, in the section "Audio Devices",

       Audio Player is still pointed to /dev/dsp , and
     Audio Recorder is still pointed to /dev/dsp
 
  - another question, where should I define the codec G.723.1 which is
    used for the Quicknet card ? If it's in the codecs sections, I don't
    find it. I know that all codecs are built directly onto the
    Quicknet card.


Thank you very much for your helps,

Truong

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Le sam 07/12/2002 à 19:24, Truong a écrit :
> Hello all,
> 
> I've just compiled successfully the Quicknet linux driver for for the
> PHONEJACK-PCI card (ixj.o and phonedev.o).
> 
> I've installed the Gnomemeeting CVS (nightly snapshot, v0.95) from packages in
> .deb format. Thank you very much for giving .deb packages for Debian
> users like me.
> 
> My question is how to configure the Quicknet card on Gnomemeeting Menu ?
> Here is what I did:
> 
>   - go to "Edit > Preferences" to get the GM menu configuration popup,
>   - go to "Audio codecs", disable all codecs proposed in list,
>   
>   - get down to "Device > Audio",
>   - in the section "Quicknet Device", I enable "* Use the Quicknet Device"
> 
> So, 
>   - is it normal that, in the section "Audio Devices",
> 
>        Audio Player is still pointed to /dev/dsp , and
>      Audio Recorder is still pointed to /dev/dsp

Yes, a Quicknet device is something different. Audio Player and Audio
Recorder are Soundcard related.

>  
>   - another question, where should I define the codec G.723.1 which is
>     used for the Quicknet card ? If it's in the codecs sections, I don't
>     find it. I know that all codecs are built directly onto the
>     Quicknet card.

It is automatic, when you are using a Quicknet card, the code G.723.1 is
implicitely chosen.

> 
> 
> Thank you very much for your helps,
> 
> Truong
> 
> --
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% *** Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> wrote: ***

% > So, 
% >   - is it normal that, in the section "Audio Devices",
% > 
% >        Audio Player is still pointed to /dev/dsp , and
% >      Audio Recorder is still pointed to /dev/dsp
% 
% Yes, a Quicknet device is something different. Audio Player and Audio
% Recorder are Soundcard related.
% 
% >  
% >   - another question, where should I define the codec G.723.1 which is
% >     used for the Quicknet card ? If it's in the codecs sections, I don't
% >     find it. I know that all codecs are built directly onto the
% >     Quicknet card.
% 
% It is automatic, when you are using a Quicknet card, the code G.723.1 is
% implicitely chosen.
% 

Ok, no need to configure the codecs for Quicknet cards.

As in a mail on the list relied to subject concerning the codecs for
Quicknet, you said about G.723.1 choosen for Quicknet card. I thought I
should define it somewhere from the GM menu. That was why my questions
in the last mail.

Thanks again,

Truong

-- 
  Truong <tphuong@wol.be>


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Yeah! Peace and love!=20
It was a very old ideas for beatniks in old sixties!
Since we have a monster whose name is Europe! It seems that it will be, =
today, (perhaps?) to speak french, italian or spanish and so on! Et =
pourtant, j'aime "Beaucoup de bruit pour rien...",  Verdi, Frederico =
Garcia Lorca, et les primitifs Flamants! Quelle richesse ce pays! Et =
maintenat nous avons Linux pour notre plus grand plaisir =E0 tous!!! Pas =
beau cela?  (A redmond on n'aime pas du tout! Dommage!)

But, when i see the quality of gomemeeting and linux, the question to =
Damien Sandras, and the analysis,  i think that=20
qu'il est vraiment dommage de chicaner car nous avons l=E0 l'avenir...

En attendant, chez moi, Gnomemeeting ne marche toujours pas  malgr=E9 =
une etude approfondie de la FAQ, de la config... Etc.
un telnet me permet de voir qu'il y a un serveur au bout. Par contre, =
gnomemeeting ne me permet pas de me logger. Je suis sous ADSL par free. =
Je parierais que la cause est l=E0. Bizarre cependant, car gnomeicu =
fonctionne tres bien.
Les premieres versions de gnomemeeting marchaient avec modem classique =
(56k) sous mandrake 8.2
=20




Quant =E0 Beyrouth, les libanais sont des gens attachants, de =
caract=E8re, ouverts, acceuillants et sympa! M=EAme au pire de leur =
emb=EAtements, il y a vingt ans! C'est cela quand on est fils d'une =
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  peace and love ?=20

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English translation here after:

Ce n'est pas chicaner. Tu poses une question en français, donc seuls les
utilisateurs francophones de la mailing list (quelque pourcents) sont
donc à même de t'aider.
En posant la question en anglais, tu t'exposes à plus de chance d'avoir
une réponse. A toi de voir.

Quand je vais à l'étranger, faire une conférence par exemple, je
m'adapte, je ne fais pas la conférence en français dans un pays où
personne ne parle le français. C'est pareil ici sur la mailing list.

Pour terminer, tu ne donnes aucune info sur ton problème, il y a fort à
parier que personne ne pourra donc t'aider. Débugger un problème pas par
une description précise et détaille de ce qui ne fonctionne pas de ce
que tu fais pour y arriver, dans une langue comprise par ceux qui sont
susceptibles de t'aider.

J'ignorerai personellement les messages suivants en français par respect
pour les gens qui ne comprennent pas cette langue et sont inscrits ici.
--
Translation :

You are asking a question in french, so only french users on the mailing
list (only a few percent) could help you. By asking your question in
englis, you would increase the change for your problem to be solved. It
is up to you to see what you prefer.

Moreover, you are not giving any useful information about your problem,
nobody will be able to help. Debugging and solving a problem begins by a
precise description of the problem itself, in a language understood by
people you are requesting help from.

I will personally ignore the following messages written in french by
respect for people who don't understand this language and are subscribed
to this mailing list.
--

Le lun 09/12/2002 à 15:48, Patrick a écrit :
> Yeah! Peace and love! 
> It was a very old ideas for beatniks in old sixties!
> Since we have a monster whose name is Europe! It seems that it will
> be, today, (perhaps?) to speak french, italian or spanish and so on!
> Et pourtant, j'aime "Beaucoup de bruit pour rien...",  Verdi,
> Frederico Garcia Lorca, et les primitifs Flamants! Quelle richesse ce
> pays! Et maintenat nous avons Linux pour notre plus grand plaisir à
> tous!!! Pas beau cela?  (A redmond on n'aime pas du tout! Dommage!)
>  
> But, when i see the quality of gomemeeting and linux, the question to
> Damien Sandras, and the analysis,  i think that 
> qu'il est vraiment dommage de chicaner car nous avons là l'avenir...
>  
> En attendant, chez moi, Gnomemeeting ne marche toujours pas  malgré
> une etude approfondie de la FAQ, de la config... Etc.
> un telnet me permet de voir qu'il y a un serveur au bout. Par contre,
> gnomemeeting ne me permet pas de me logger. Je suis sous ADSL par
> free. Je parierais que la cause est là. Bizarre cependant, car
> gnomeicu fonctionne tres bien.
> Les premieres versions de gnomemeeting marchaient avec modem classique
> (56k) sous mandrake 8.2
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Quant à Beyrouth, les libanais sont des gens attachants, de caractère,
> ouverts, acceuillants et sympa! Même au pire de leur embêtements, il y
> a vingt ans! C'est cela quand on est fils d'une très
> vieille civilisation. Et en plus ils parlent français!
>  
>  
>  
>         ----- Original Message ----- 
>         From: Hdebaillenx@aol.com
>         To: gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org
>         Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:21 AM
>         Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: gnomemeeting and 0.85
>         version
>         
>         Bonjour la France 
>         
>         C'est clair,  sa rigole pas !!! 
>         C vrai que parler langue en Belgique est plus dangereux que de
>         jouer de la AK47 a Beyrouth !!! 
>         
>         peace and love ? 
>         
>         s@lutations numériques 
>         
>         Hervé 
>         
>         http://membres.lycos.fr/hervedebaillenx/index.htm
>         Tel/Fax        :   01 39 71 72 94 
>         NetMeeting  :   ils.seconix.com 
-- 
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Le Lundi 9 D=E9cembre 2002 14:48, Patrick a =E9crit :
> Yeah! Peace and love!
> En attendant, chez moi, Gnomemeeting ne marche toujours pas  malgr=E9 u=
ne
> etude approfondie de la FAQ, de la config... Etc. un telnet me permet d=
e
> voir qu'il y a un serveur au bout. Par contre, gnomemeeting ne me perme=
t
> pas de me logger. Je suis sous ADSL par free. Je parierais que la cause=
 est
> l=E0. Bizarre cependant, car gnomeicu fonctionne tres bien. Les premier=
es
> versions de gnomemeeting marchaient avec modem classique (56k) sous
> mandrake 8.2
---------------------
so, answer in english ... :-)
only the versions >=3D to 0.93 works good with gnomemeeting !
so, which one do you use ?
if < to 0.93, update it.
I had + - similar problems and with 0.95, it's ok and a configuration dir=
ect=20
in line with the master Damien Sandras, who helped me very well !

I add :
in the menu "preferences", don't write characters with accents like : =E9=
, =E0 , =E8=20
=2E.. avoid it, because it makes gnomeeting very instable :
is it a bug, is it posible to correct it ?
If I write my name "Wach=E9" : does not work=20
but "Wache" =3D ok .
gnomemeeting is for english language, but not international, does not lik=
e the=20
accents  :-)
bye
antoine



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Le mar 10/12/2002 à 15:36, antoine a écrit :

> If I write my name "Waché" : does not work 
> but "Wache" = ok .

It was corrected in 0.94.1, only 0.93.1 had that bug:
http://www.gnomemeeting.org/downloads/snapshots/gm-cyr.png

Look to that screenshot to see that internationalisation works very well
:)


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Le Mardi 10 D=E9cembre 2002 17:20, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> Le mar 10/12/2002 =E0 15:36, antoine a =E9crit :
> > If I write my name "Wach=E9" : does not work
> > but "Wache" =3D ok .
> It was corrected in 0.94.1, only 0.93.1 had that bug:
> http://www.gnomemeeting.org/downloads/snapshots/gm-cyr.png
> Look to that screenshot to see that internationalisation works very wel=
l
-------------
sorry !
thanks Damien for this correction .
so I have the 0.93 ...
I have to update too  :-)
antoine Wach=E9


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Hi,
I want to update gnomemeeting 0.93 --> 0.95
i'm under MDK 9.0. and it's the first time I use this distribution.
If I use the classical .RPM files I receive those messages :
-----
rpm -Uvh gnomemeeting ....... .rpm
error: failed dependencies:
        openh323 >=3D 1.9.10-4 is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        pwlib >=3D 1.3.11 is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libcrypto.so.2   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libssl.so.2   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
[root@aw local]# rpm -Uvh openh323-1.9.10-4.i386.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
        pwlib >=3D 1.3.11 is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
        libcrypto.so.2   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
        libssl.so.2   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
[root@aw local]# rpm -Uvh pwlib-1.3.11-1.i386.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
        libcrypto.so.2   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libssl.so.2   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
-------------------------------------------
So I want to use "urpmi" and I don't know how to do that ?

Thanks a lot !

antoine Wach=E9

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Hi !

Am Dienstag, 10. Dezember 2002 21:07 schrieb antoine:

> So I want to use "urpmi" and I don't know how to do that ?

put all three rpms into one seperate directory and do a 'urpmi *' ; that =
way=20
all rpms from there plus the other needed rpms are installed.

Matthias Marks (aka matti on #gnomemeeting, irc.gnome.org)


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> So I want to use "urpmi" and I don't know how to do that ?
>antoine Wach=E9
>----------------------
> put all three rpms into one seperate directory and do a 'urpmi *' ; tha=
t
> way all rpms from there plus the other needed rpms are installed.
> Matthias Marks (aka matti on #gnomemeeting, irc.gnome.org)
---------------------------------------
I do what you told me and :
[root@aw local]# urpmi *.rpm
installation de ./openh323-1.9.10-4.i386.rpm ./gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386=
=2Erpm=20
=2E/pwlib-1.3.11-1.i386.rpm
L'installation a =E9chou=E9 :=20
        libcrypto.so.2 est n=E9cessaire =E0 openh323-1.9.10-4
        libssl.so.2 est n=E9cessaire =E0 openh323-1.9.10-4
        libcrypto.so.2 est n=E9cessaire =E0 gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libssl.so.2 est n=E9cessaire =E0 gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libcrypto.so.2 est n=E9cessaire =E0 pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3) est n=E9cessaire =E0 pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libssl.so.2 est n=E9cessaire =E0 pwlib-1.3.11-1
----------------
so exactly the same message than with "rpm -Uvh ...." :-)

any idea for another solution

thanks

antoine


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Hi again !

Am Dienstag, 10. Dezember 2002 21:31 schrieb antoine:

> installation de ./openh323-1.9.10-4.i386.rpm
> ./gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386.rpm ./pwlib-1.3.11-1.i386.rpm

It seems you downloaded the rpms for redhat, not for mandrake (mandrake r=
pms=20
have a "mdk" in the name. Here's the direct link to the correct rpms:

http://www.gnomemeeting.org/downloads/0.94.1/mandrake/


Matthias Marks (aka matti on #gnomemeeting, irc.gnome.org)



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Le Mardi 10 D=E9cembre 2002 21:46, Matthias Marks a =E9crit :
> It seems you downloaded the rpms for redhat, not for mandrake (mandrake
> rpms have a "mdk" in the name. Here's the direct link to the correct rp=
ms:
> http://www.gnomemeeting.org/downloads/0.94.1/mandrake/
> Matthias Marks
--------------
hi,
it works for the install.
-------
but now , with the GM 0.94, I have problems with the sound card :
I receive a message : "the audio is already in use, audio will be stopped=
".
but it's difficult on seconix 's users to find somebody free to make a te=
st .
thanks
antoine



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Le mer 11/12/2002 =E0 09:30, antoine a =E9crit :
> Le Mardi 10 D=E9cembre 2002 21:46, Matthias Marks a =E9crit :
> > It seems you downloaded the rpms for redhat, not for mandrake (mandrake
> > rpms have a "mdk" in the name. Here's the direct link to the correct rp=
ms:
> > http://www.gnomemeeting.org/downloads/0.94.1/mandrake/
> > Matthias Marks
> --------------
> hi,
hi antoine,

> it works for the install.
nice,

> -------
> but now , with the GM 0.94, I have problems with the sound card :
> I receive a message : "the audio is already in use, audio will be stopped=
".
are you using KDE (and artsd)?
if yes you should try to pause or stop the artsd sound daemon before
launching GnomeMeeting.

> but it's difficult on seconix 's users to find somebody free to make a te=
st.
I think you should find someone free for a test more easily on
irc.gimpnet.org #gnomemeeting.
> thanks
> antoine

hope this help.

Fabrice

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> are you using KDE (and artsd)?
> if yes you should try to pause or stop the artsd sound daemon before
> launching GnomeMeeting.
> Fabrice
------------------------
i'm on KDE.
artsd : I don't know ...
How to know that ?
I saw in the "daemons" services
no "artsd" are here !
but "atrsd" seems loaded at boot.
so how to pause or stop it
If I want to make a record sound with my micro,
the recording has a very bad quality ...
it worked quite well before with GM 0.93 ...
thanks
antoine


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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 11:13, antoine a écrit :

> i'm on KDE.
> artsd : I don't know ...
> How to know that ?

ps ax for example

> I saw in the "daemons" services
> no "artsd" are here !

artsd is not a standard daemon

> but "atrsd" seems loaded at boot.
> so how to pause or stop it
> If I want to make a record sound with my micro,
> the recording has a very bad quality ...
> it worked quite well before with GM 0.93 ...

You probably changed something else. Installing GnomeMeeting doesn't
influence the recording of the micro with other programs, Linux is not
Windows (fortunately) ;)

> thanks
> antoine
> 
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hi,

-I see in my processus (ps aux) that 6 gnomemeeting are
open. is it normal ?
----
-when I cut a connection after a too long wait, I cannot connect on a use=
r=20
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I have to close the GM window and I have to "killall gnomemeeting" becaus=
e the
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the same above than with the 0.94 !

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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 14:27, antoine a écrit :
> -I see in my processus (ps aux) that 6 gnomemeeting are
> open. is it normal ?

Yes, that's what is call a thread. You have 6 threads.

> ----
> -when I cut a connection after a too long wait, I cannot connect on a user 
> again.
> I have to close the GM window and I have to "killall gnomemeeting" because the
> processus are always open ...

That is not normal, I don't understand what you are doing.

> -----
> -I decided to come back to the .093 version, but the difficulties are 
> the same above than with the 0.94 !
> 

That is not normal either. You had a perfectly working configuration
this WE after we helped you during a long time. You probably changed
things in your configuration since that moment.

> thanks
> 
> antoine
> 

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Hi, I was quite rudely called back after submitting a gnomemeeting
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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 15:42, Robert Schmidt a écrit :
> Hi, I was quite rudely called back after submitting a gnomemeeting
> enhancement proposal to the bugzilla with the enhancement flag set. The
> person said I should send them here. Just to check, is this correct?
> 

Hello Robert,

Actually I think that you can request enhancements on bugzilla, but we
prefer to discuss those enhancements on the gnomemeeting-devel-list that
has been created on this purpose and keep bugzilla for bugs.

Here is how things should be working:
- gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org : User problems
- gnomemeeting-devel-list@gnome.org : Development discussions, including
features enhancements, and so on
- bugzilla : bug reports

However, Bugzilla permits to report enhancements and several people are
reporting them on Bugzilla. We didn't make it clear yet on website how
we would like things to work. Our apologies about that.
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Hi !

Am Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2002 15:42 schrieb Robert Schmidt:
> Hi, I was quite rudely called back after submitting a gnomemeeting
> enhancement proposal to the bugzilla with the enhancement flag set. The
> person said I should send them here. Just to check, is this correct?

Yes, this is the right place :-)

Matthias Marks (aka matti on #gnomemeeting, irc.gnome.org)

P.S. My callback would have been a bit more polite ;-), but he's right th=
at it=20
isn't a bug...

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We prefer to discuss new features in one of the mailing list (developers
list is better in any case).
I've read your bug report, but it's not very clear to me want to really
mean.
Could you please elaborate?

PD: All ideas are welcome, please don't mind rudeness, nobody was rude
to you on purpose... (it's just that we are not very good english
speakers ;) )

El mi=C3=A9, 11-12-2002 a las 15:42, Robert Schmidt escribi=C3=B3:
> Hi, I was quite rudely called back after submitting a gnomemeeting
> enhancement proposal to the bugzilla with the enhancement flag set. The
> person said I should send them here. Just to check, is this correct?
>=20
> Thanks,
> Robert
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list

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Hi,

	I know GnomeMeeting DOESN'T support Remote Desktop sharing like Netmeeting
does, but are there any plans to or does anyone know of any Linux clients
that DO?

Thanks in advance.



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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 16:07, Jean-Claude Gervais a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> 	I know GnomeMeeting DOESN'T support Remote Desktop sharing like Netmeeting
> does, but are there any plans to or does anyone know of any Linux clients
> that DO?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 

Currently there are no plans as we prefer to concentrate in pure
videoconferencing and VOIP, but you can use VNC (google) or RDESKTOP
(http://www.rdesktop.org)


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hi,

I think my difficulties, probabely, come from
my modem RTC and not ADSL connection !
because it's seem working better late in the night ...
or when people disconnect their video
(i don't have webcam)

I don't see bad configurations in my gnomemeeting ...
excepted maybe,  sound =3D I cannot record

thanks for people who help me on the GM chat.
-----------------------------------
I try with "netmeeting" of window$ , but netmeeting answers :
no connection possible with netmeeting on :  " ils.seconix.com "

quid ?

antoine

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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 16:17, antoine a écrit :
> hi,
> 
> I think my difficulties, probabely, come from
> my modem RTC and not ADSL connection !
> because it's seem working better late in the night ...
> or when people disconnect their video
> (i don't have webcam)

That could be possible...

> 
> I don't see bad configurations in my gnomemeeting ...
> excepted maybe,  sound = I cannot record
> 

Check your volumes levels with the Gnome or KDE mixers.


> thanks for people who help me on the GM chat.
> -----------------------------------
> I try with "netmeeting" of window$ , but netmeeting answers :
> no connection possible with netmeeting on :  " ils.seconix.com "
> 

There are currently 10 Netmeeting connected to ils.seconix.com => that
should be possible. Anyway, that is more a question for Microsoft
technical support ;)

> quid ?
> 
> antoine
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> Check your volumes levels with the Gnome or KDE mixers.
ok !
-----------------------------------
> > I try with "netmeeting" of window$ , but netmeeting answers :
> > no connection possible with netmeeting on :  " ils.seconix.com "
---------------
> There are currently 10 Netmeeting connected to ils.seconix.com =3D> tha=
t
> should be possible. Anyway, that is more a question for Microsoft
> technical support ;)
----------
yes but strange that some can do that and not me,
but no matter in fact ... i'm not on win$ but it was for a try ..
to compare and understands my difficulties on GM
using netmeeting ...
antoine

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Thanks for the speedy reply, Damien,

The only problem is that RDesktop.org's client software only supports
Windows Terminal Services / Windows XP RDP.
I need something that supports NetMeeting's Remote Desktop sharing, and
unless I am mistaken, they are two different things.
Um, what IS the protocol NetMeeting uses for its Remote Desktop Sharing?

Thanks

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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 16:07, Jean-Claude Gervais a écrit :
> Hi,
>
>       I know GnomeMeeting DOESN'T support Remote Desktop sharing like
Netmeeting
> does, but are there any plans to or does anyone know of any Linux clients
> that DO?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

Currently there are no plans as we prefer to concentrate in pure
videoconferencing and VOIP, but you can use VNC (google) or RDESKTOP
(http://www.rdesktop.org)


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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 16:30, Jean-Claude Gervais a écrit :
> Thanks for the speedy reply, Damien,
> 
> The only problem is that RDesktop.org's client software only supports
> Windows Terminal Services / Windows XP RDP.
> I need something that supports NetMeeting's Remote Desktop sharing, and
> unless I am mistaken, they are two different things.
> Um, what IS the protocol NetMeeting uses for its Remote Desktop Sharing?
> 

A subpart of T.120.

I know no implementation of it on Linux, I think that would be too hard.
But if you want a non-netmeeting desktop sharing software, there is VNC
which works well.

I don't think that GM will one day do remote desktop sharing: "Do one
thing, but do it well", and we want to concentrate on different things
(SIP, MCU, answering machines, ...)

> Thanks
> 

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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 16:19, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> There are currently 10 Netmeeting connected to ils.seconix.com => that
> should be possible. Anyway, that is more a question for Microsoft
> technical support ;)

My father finds it difficult to register on seconix sometimes ; his
solution, of course, is to reboot...

Lately, when he tried to connect to me, nm told him I wasn't able to
communicate...

This is just like my ex-provider, of which 99,99% of the staff thought
internet was a M$ invention, and I shouldn't even think to connect with
a linux...

Some things just put me in bad mood...

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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hi all,
just got gnomemeeting and installed it, but I havn't been able to get it =
to=20
work. I keep getting the message "GnomeMeeting got 0 for the GConf key=20
'/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test_age", but 12 was expected"

I tried runing gnomemeeting-config-tool but it didnt help. Finally I trie=
d
> gconftool-2 --get "/apps/gnomemeeting/general/gconf_test"=20
and
> gconftool-2 --get "/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test"=20
but got "No value set for '/apps/gnomemeeting..'=20

I am running SuSE 8.0 with KDE3 and didn't have any of the gnome libs bef=
ore,=20
but now I downloaded all the required libs as said in the README from you=
r=20
downloads page (rpms are from SuSE's ftp server) and got the gnomemeeting=
 rpm=20
for SuSE from your download page.
This might be something very simple (hopefully) but since I am no gnome u=
ser I=20
really don't know where to start looking for.
I tried=20
>gconftool-2 --get-default-source
and got
>xml::/etc/opt/gnome2/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults
I then looked into that directory and there are two dirs: "apps" and=20
"schemas".  There is a gnomemeeting directory in each of them, each=20
containing a bunch of subdirs like "audio_codecs", "audio_settings", ...=20
"devices",...., "ldap", "personal_data", "view"

I have zero idea of gconf and friends, so any hints as to how to solve th=
is or=20
where to find more info would be great.

thanks

luis

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Am Donnerstag, 12. Dezember 2002 01:55 schrieb Luis De la Parra Blum:
> hi all,
> just got gnomemeeting and installed it, but I havn't been able to get it to
> work. I keep getting the message "GnomeMeeting got 0 for the GConf key
> '/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test_age", but 12 was expected"
>
> I tried runing gnomemeeting-config-tool but it didnt help. Finally I tried
>
> > gconftool-2 --get "/apps/gnomemeeting/general/gconf_test"
>
> and
>
> > gconftool-2 --get "/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test"
>
> but got "No value set for '/apps/gnomemeeting..'
>
> I am running SuSE 8.0 with KDE3 and didn't have any of the gnome libs
> before, but now I downloaded all the required libs as said in the README
> from your downloads page (rpms are from SuSE's ftp server) and got the
> gnomemeeting rpm for SuSE from your download page.

Did you run the SuSEconfig scripts mentioned in the README? Also be sure you 
have installed the latest package which can be found under Downloads, test 
your installation with
$> rpm -q gnomemeeting
this should return gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3

Greetings,

Stefan

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ons 2002-12-11 klockan 15.52 skrev Damien Sandras:
> > Hi, I was quite rudely called back after submitting a gnomemeeting
> > enhancement proposal to the bugzilla with the enhancement flag set. The
> > person said I should send them here. Just to check, is this correct?
> 
> Hello Robert,
> 
> Actually I think that you can request enhancements on bugzilla, but we
> prefer to discuss those enhancements on the gnomemeeting-devel-list that
> has been created on this purpose and keep bugzilla for bugs.

In my opinion, it's useful to have both. Bugzilla is good for keeping
track of things but a bad place to have planning, a mailing list is a
good place to have planning but a bad place to track things. So only
having feature requests on the mailing list is probably bad as it isn't
easy to later find out what actually happened to it after the discussion
died -- was it implemented, will it be implemented at some point, or was
it decided it was a bad idea altogether and will never be implemented?

Thus, I suggest that both are used -- when a feature request appears on
the mailing list, make sure an entry for it is also in bugzilla, and
vice versa. Make sure that you put in a link to the bugzilla bug report
in the mailing list thread, and a link to the mailing list thread in the
bug report. Then continue to have the discussion on the mailing list.
Finally, when there is a consensus or a decision or the discussion died
out some other way, try to do a very short summary of it in the bugzilla
bug report and update the status of the bug report accordingly.

Also, one advantage of also having feature requests also in bugzilla is
that it's easy to point to existing resolutions for some common
requests. If someone asks on the mailing list about why there isn't a
desktop sharing feature for the second time, it's easy to point to the
bugzilla bug report where the decision is summarized (it's usually
easier to search bugzilla than mailing list archives), and avoid having
to have the entire discussion and summarize once again on the mailing
list. If someone put's a "why isn't there a remote desktop feature"
enhancement request in bugzilla, it's easy to make it a duplicate of the
existing bugzilla bug report about the same issue and be done with it.

So bugzilla and the development mailing lists are used complimentary.
Surely most other application teams in GNOME also believe in mailing
list developer discussions, but they also often use bugzilla to track
specific enhancement requests, even though it may be discussed
elsewhere. This is why there is a "enhancement" category to begin with
in bugzilla. :)


Christian



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Le jeu 12/12/2002 à 07:40, Christian Rose a écrit :

I pretty much agree, but if people keep on asking for something gm won't
give, shouldn't it go in the faq, and not in the bugzilla?

I tend to search the faq of a project when I lack something and/or have
a problem with it; searching for known bugs comes only after, if it ever
comes: I've only looked in gm's bugzilla when someone in #gnomemeeting
gave a link... (I prefer going to the debian bts...)

Snark on #gnomemeeting

PS: xchat has a nice feature: when you right-click on a link, you get
the choice to open it in various browsers, in a new window or a new
tab...


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tor 2002-12-12 klockan 08.55 skrev PUYDT Julien:
> I pretty much agree, but if people keep on asking for something gm won't
> give, shouldn't it go in the faq, and not in the bugzilla?

You can do both. That's the beauty of having things in Bugzilla; it's
easy to link to it. You can have a short answer in the FAQ, and also
provide a link to the relevant bugzilla bug where people can read more
about the decision if they are interested, and also see links to the
mailing list thread(s).

"Q: Are there any plans on a foo feature?
A: No. GnomeMeeting is a video conference application only and we are
not planning on extending it with the foo feature, since there are
better and specialized applications that can do that already. For more
details, see <link>bugzilla bug 123456</link>."


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Am Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 18:13 schrieb Damien Sandras:
> Le ven 06/12/2002 à 17:57, Rob Tow a écrit :
> > I have done both of the above, and it still does not work.

You have pushed the refresh button in the ILS view?

> Try to upgrade GnomeMeeting and see if it fixes the problem.
> I think Suse 8.1 is still shipping with an antic GnomeMeeting version.

8.1 includes Gnome2 and GM 0.93

Greetings,

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On Thursday 12 December 2002 04:09, Stefan Bruens wrote:
> Did you run the SuSEconfig scripts mentioned in the README? Also be sur=
e

yes, I did.
I found it a little strange that they ran so fast though...
normally (when you install something with Yast) it takes a little longer,=
 but=20
in this case it was "running, reading, executing and finished" extremly f=
ast.=20
either the configuration needed is minimal, or something is not running a=
s it=20
should (?)

> you have installed the latest package which can be found under Download=
s,
> test your installation with
> $> rpm -q gnomemeeting
> this should return gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>
yes, gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3

any other ideas how I can check this?
I tried=20
>for i in `ls -R`
 do cat $i|grep gconf_test_age && echo "********************match FOUND i=
n"=20
$i;=20
done
in /etc/opt/gnome2/gconf, but no file seems to contain such a key.
I also tried the gnomemeeting-config-tool, and it says it has installed t=
he=20
schemas successfully, whatever that means.

luis


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I'm new to Gnomemeeting and am trialing it between various other
Gnomemeeting clients: some on the local network, some across a reasonably
good Internet connection (60ms round trip) and beyond.  In every case,
audio quality is terrible.

I am using a Quicknet card and Gnomemeeting is configured to use it.  
Loopback testing indicates that the audio is crystal clear.

People on the other end report that I sound like a chipmunk :-) (which, I
can assure you is not normally the case!)  How can I got about
troubleshooting this?  I looked at the audio codecs and all of them are
selected.  I would all to perform reasonably well, especially on the low
latency connections I am testing it with.

Any ideas?  Thanks,

Ben


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> I'm new to Gnomemeeting and am trialing it between various other
> Gnomemeeting clients: some on the local network, some across a reasonably
> good Internet connection (60ms round trip) and beyond.  In every case,
> audio quality is terrible.
>
> I am using a Quicknet card and Gnomemeeting is configured to use it.
> Loopback testing indicates that the audio is crystal clear.
>
> People on the other end report that I sound like a chipmunk :-) (which, I
> can assure you is not normally the case!)  How can I got about
> troubleshooting this?  I looked at the audio codecs and all of them are
> selected.  I would all to perform reasonably well, especially on the low
> latency connections I am testing it with.
>
> Any ideas?  Thanks,

Hi,
   i have no idea, but a similar problem, outgoing sound though a gatekeeper
with a quicknet card sound terrible, while incoming sound is quite good ..
Unfortunately i have no sollution for this yet ..

regards,
      Michael


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Hi,
 audio quality is influenced by a number of factors:

  1) sound collection device
      a microphone and headphones is best.

  2) Increase your jitter buffer size.

  3)  Select G723.1 codec.

  4) Try lowering your play/record volume a little.


Incidentally, what Quicknet card are you using?

Derek.

==================================================================
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Ben Elliston wrote:

> I'm new to Gnomemeeting and am trialing it between various other
> Gnomemeeting clients: some on the local network, some across a reasonably
> good Internet connection (60ms round trip) and beyond.  In every case,
> audio quality is terrible.
> 
> I am using a Quicknet card and Gnomemeeting is configured to use it.  
> Loopback testing indicates that the audio is crystal clear.
> 
> People on the other end report that I sound like a chipmunk :-) (which, I
> can assure you is not normally the case!)  How can I got about
> troubleshooting this?  I looked at the audio codecs and all of them are
> selected.  I would all to perform reasonably well, especially on the low
> latency connections I am testing it with.
> 
> Any ideas?  Thanks,
> 
> Ben
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
> 
> 

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Hi.

>   1) sound collection device
>       a microphone and headphones is best.

Why would I want to use a mic and headphones if I have a Quicknet card 
with echo cancellation?  Isn't that superior?

>   2) Increase your jitter buffer size.

I increased it to 200ms -- enough?

>   3)  Select G723.1 codec.

I don't have a G723.1 codec.  Perhaps I'm using a slightly older version.  
I am using 0.93.1.  Or am I doing something wrong?

> Incidentally, what Quicknet card are you using?

PhoneJACK.

Ben


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Hi,

>   1) sound collection device
>       a microphone and headphones is best.

using a normal phone ... thats the scope of quicknet card, isn't it ? ;)

>   2) Increase your jitter buffer size.

did try to play with it ...

>   3)  Select G723.1 codec.

not there ..

>   4) Try lowering your play/record volume a little.

not aviable .. ;) damian told me that maybe there will be in the next
version

> Incidentally, what Quicknet card are you using?

Internet PhoneJack PCI linux edition

regards,
        Michael


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Le ven 13/12/2002 à 02:00, Ben Elliston a écrit :

> >   3)  Select G723.1 codec.
> 
> I don't have a G723.1 codec.  Perhaps I'm using a slightly older version.  
> I am using 0.93.1.  Or am I doing something wrong?

Yes, Quicknet support is only complete in the CVS version of
GnomeMeeting.

G.723.1 is automaticall selected when you are using the Quicknet card.

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Le ven 13/12/2002 à 16:09, Michael Glauche a écrit :

> >   3)  Select G723.1 codec.
> 
> not there ..
> 

Read my previous post and check the "General History" to see if the
right codec is used. Perhaps your settings select G.711, it was a bug in
the CVS version you tried.

> >   4) Try lowering your play/record volume a little.
> 
> not aviable .. ;) damian told me that maybe there will be in the next
> version

That is implemented in current CVS.

> 
> > Incidentally, what Quicknet card are you using?
> 
> Internet PhoneJack PCI linux edition
> 

Have you tried with ohphone?

> regards,
>         Michael
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> G.723.1 is automaticall selected when you are using the Quicknet card.

OK, that helps, thanks.

Now I am back to using a full-duplex sound card with mic and speakers.  I
have managed to work out that when speaking to a Netmeeting client, my
voice sounds slow and audio sent from the Netmeeting client sounds fast.  
They are agreeing on the uLaw codec.

Any ideas on how to proceed?

Thanks, Ben


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> > > Incidentally, what Quicknet card are you using?
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> > Internet PhoneJack PCI linux edition
>
> Have you tried with ohphone?

yes, exactly the same problem there. G.723.1{hw} codec is used for sending and 
recieving, but the sending quality is bad, so i guess its an openh323 bug ..

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Using G.711 is perhaps not the best idea. Try to permit ALaw only. Or
better, install the MS-GSM codec for Netmeeting (you can find a patch on
www.gnomemeeting.org).

However, I remember that there were some problems with OpenH323 a while
ago concerning the G.711 codec. I read that you are using GM 0.93 which
is pretty old. I would suggest that you use CVS version with updated
openh323 libraries. If you are using Redhat 8 or Debian, we can provide
you updated packages.


Le ven 13/12/2002 à 12:12, Ben Elliston a écrit :
> > G.723.1 is automaticall selected when you are using the Quicknet card.
> 
> OK, that helps, thanks.
> 
> Now I am back to using a full-duplex sound card with mic and speakers.  I
> have managed to work out that when speaking to a Netmeeting client, my
> voice sounds slow and audio sent from the Netmeeting client sounds fast.  
> They are agreeing on the uLaw codec.
> 
> Any ideas on how to proceed?
> 
> Thanks, Ben
> 
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Le ven 13/12/2002 à 12:27, Michael Glauche a écrit :
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> yes, exactly the same problem there. G.723.1{hw} codec is used for sending and 
> recieving, but the sending quality is bad, so i guess its an openh323 bug ..

In that case I think you should mail openh323@openh323.org , they would
be interested to help to debug that quicknet problem. Using G.723.1{hw}
should always give good quality...
It is a good news for me, but I think that problem should be fixed...


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I'm back in the stuff, guys.
I do have now a much powerfull and useable FW linux box, with a dual
screen switch that let me run XWindow in a much more powerfull way.

I plugged again my philips 740k webcam.
I created again the devices, with user rafa in the group video and
audio.
But It dont function.
could anybody check my rights ?
nexus:/home/rafa# ls -lat /dev/video*
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     video          11 Dec 10 20:48 /dev/video ->
/dev/video0
crw-rw-rw-    1 root     video     81,   0 Dec 10 20:48 /dev/video0
crw-rw-rw-    1 root     video     81,   2 Dec 10 20:41 /dev/video2
crw-rw-rw-    1 root     video     81,   1 Dec 10 20:41 /dev/video1

I didn't find anymore the answer to this question in the FAQ. I remember
it was. I run a plain old woody, with no mix SID/woody right now. I'm
plannig to let gnomemeeting run SID side, in order to run a much up to
date version. So right now, I run GM 0.12.2, that seems to be very old.

Another question absolutly off topic, but I remember that there is much
Debian addicts here: How could I tell apt to get gnomemeeting in sid
package ?
I'll put the answers here if I find it meanwhile.

	Rafa aka Tristan




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Le ven 13/12/2002 à 16:53, Rafael Pinilla a écrit :
> I plugged again my philips 740k webcam.
> I created again the devices, with user rafa in the group video and
> audio.
> But It dont function.

Can you be more precise?


> I didn't find anymore the answer to this question in the FAQ. I remember
> it was. I run a plain old woody, with no mix SID/woody right now. I'm

Such things were removed from the FAQ because we decided to only provide
help about GnomeMeeting on the FAQ and not on generic Linux installation
problems. Audio and video problems are more related to your distribution
than to GnomeMeeting itself.

> plannig to let gnomemeeting run SID side, in order to run a much up to
> date version. So right now, I run GM 0.12.2, that seems to be very old.

Wow! Yes, GnomeMeeting 0.12.2 is more than one year old !

> Another question absolutly off topic, but I remember that there is much
> Debian addicts here: How could I tell apt to get gnomemeeting in sid
> package ?

Change your stable lines to unstable in /etc/apt/sources.list, apt-get
update, apt-get install gnomemeeting .

> I'll put the answers here if I find it meanwhile.
> 
> 	Rafa aka Tristan
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Hi,
 Please do not use mic and speakers.

  The echo canceller in the quicknet cards is not perfect.

 You will find an improvement in quality if you use headphones.

Derek.
============
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Ben Elliston wrote:

> > G.723.1 is automaticall selected when you are using the Quicknet card.
> 
> OK, that helps, thanks.
> 
> Now I am back to using a full-duplex sound card with mic and speakers.  I
> have managed to work out that when speaking to a Netmeeting client, my
> voice sounds slow and audio sent from the Netmeeting client sounds fast.  
> They are agreeing on the uLaw codec.
> 
> Any ideas on how to proceed?
> 
> Thanks, Ben
> 
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> 

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Ben,

 There are other emails on this list about headphones or speakers.

 In my experience, there has always been an improvement in voice quality 
 when changing from speakers to something else (headphones or handset)

==
As far as jitter buffer size, TRY a bigger value. I have no idea what your 
network latency is. I am not a crystal ball gazing psychic to know what
will work for you.
200 ms "should" be enough, but 400ms will most probably be enough.

Is there any difference in quality (apart from latency) if you switch from 
200 to 400ms?

1000ms will be enough for all but the most patholigical of networks.
TRY different values.

===

Finally, before the various experts on this list criticise the openh323 
code, remember this:
Craig and Robert use openh323 code (plus quicknet cards) to talk all the
time between Australia, England, America and New Zealand. If the code was
faulty, would they fix it? yes. I suggest the problem is elsewhere.

The real check is:
  Do you have the same quality problems if you use ohphone?

There may be a configuration issue for your machine.
Good luck on finding this: you have to battle gconf, the quicknet kernel 
module, library versions, and gnomemeeting versions.


Derek.
=======================
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Ben Elliston wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> >   1) sound collection device
> >       a microphone and headphones is best.
> 
> Why would I want to use a mic and headphones if I have a Quicknet card 
> with echo cancellation?  Isn't that superior?
> 
> >   2) Increase your jitter buffer size.
> 
> I increased it to 200ms -- enough?
> 
> >   3)  Select G723.1 codec.
> 
> I don't have a G723.1 codec.  Perhaps I'm using a slightly older version.  
> I am using 0.93.1.  Or am I doing something wrong?
> 
> > Incidentally, what Quicknet card are you using?
> 
> PhoneJACK.
> 
> Ben
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hi,

I test yesterday with Jeff and Truong and others ... :
-everybody can hear me and very clearly,
-with some I can hear, but with too poor quality,
-with others I can hear but with many cuts,
-and with other I cannot hear ...

my sound card seems ok for configuration.
speakers and micro (for micro test for recording =3D ok)
I have the ATRSD processus.
if I remove ATRSD =3D same !

I use 0.93 GM on MDK 9.0

thanks

Antoine Wach=E9

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We already discussed that problem many times with you, your problem is
simple, you are using PPP.

A ppp connection is not enough to have a good quality. 

Le sam 14/12/2002 à 11:51, antoine a écrit :
> hi,
> 
> I test yesterday with Jeff and Truong and others ... :
> -everybody can hear me and very clearly,
> -with some I can hear, but with too poor quality,
> -with others I can hear but with many cuts,
> -and with other I cannot hear ...
> 
> my sound card seems ok for configuration.
> speakers and micro (for micro test for recording = ok)
> I have the ATRSD processus.
> if I remove ATRSD = same !
> 
> I use 0.93 GM on MDK 9.0
> 
> thanks
> 
> Antoine Waché
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Le sam 14/12/2002 à 13:48, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> We already discussed that problem many times with you, your problem is
> simple, you are using PPP.
> 
> A ppp connection is not enough to have a good quality. 

More precisely: a ppp connection with a simple modem is not enough. An
adsl ppp connection is enough.

You (AW, not Damien) have to understand that you need bandwith to
send/receive data. You tell us that with some you have good sound and
others a bad sound... I would say it doesn't really depend on with whom
you connect, but when, ie if you're connected at 56000 it will be better
than at 28800...

Using gnomemeeting with adsl (on both sides), you can have both
video&sound, but you can't have them both perfect (perfect sound and
50fps full quality). There is always a tradeoff.

On a lan, you can do what you want...

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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Hi Everyone:
For the last two weeks or so the server at ils.seconix.com gives me a message 
about having to register before seeing other users. However it appears that I 
AM registered. I get the "successfully regeistered to ils.seconix.com" 
message when starting gnomemeeting and another "successful logoff" message 
when quitting! (The registering is set in my preferences).
Anyone know what could be wrong?
Thanks for any help!


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Hello,

Some people have reported the same problem using old versions of
GnomeMeeting.

However we don't know what the problem can be as some of the GM testers
have confirmed that it was working even with old versions, we suggest
you to upgrade your old gnomemeeting version to a newer one (in the 0.9x
serie).


Le sam 14/12/2002 à 11:21, Will Lehman a écrit :
> Hi Everyone:
> For the last two weeks or so the server at ils.seconix.com gives me a message 
> about having to register before seeing other users. However it appears that I 
> AM registered. I get the "successfully regeistered to ils.seconix.com" 
> message when starting gnomemeeting and another "successful logoff" message 
> when quitting! (The registering is set in my preferences).
> Anyone know what could be wrong?
> Thanks for any help!
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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I am using the version 0.94.1 so I guess it must be some other problem.=20
Unfortunately, I can't think of anything specific thing I've done (firewa=
ll,=20
settings, etc) in the mean time to cause the error. I will keep fiddling =
and=20
if I figure it out I'll let the list know.
Thanks
=20
On Saturday 14 December 2002 03:26 pm, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Some people have reported the same problem using old versions of
> GnomeMeeting.
>
> However we don't know what the problem can be as some of the GM testers
> have confirmed that it was working even with old versions, we suggest
> you to upgrade your old gnomemeeting version to a newer one (in the 0.9=
x
> serie).
>
> Le sam 14/12/2002 =E0 11:21, Will Lehman a =E9crit :
> > Hi Everyone:
> > For the last two weeks or so the server at ils.seconix.com gives me a
> > message about having to register before seeing other users. However i=
t
> > appears that I AM registered. I get the "successfully regeistered to
> > ils.seconix.com" message when starting gnomemeeting and another
> > "successful logoff" message when quitting! (The registering is set in=
 my
> > preferences).
> > Anyone know what could be wrong?
> > Thanks for any help!
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list


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While trying to run gnomemeeting 0.85, I receive the following error:

gnomemeeting: relocation error: gnomemeeting: undefined symbol: 
__vt_Q29PIPSocket14InterfaceTable

Upgrading to 0.95 is not an option.  I'm open to any other suggestions.

Anne Racel



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On Saturday 14 December 2002 18:49, Anne Racel wrote:
> While trying to run gnomemeeting 0.85, I receive the following error:
>
> gnomemeeting: relocation error: gnomemeeting: undefined symbol:
> __vt_Q29PIPSocket14InterfaceTable
>
> Upgrading to 0.95 is not an option.  I'm open to any other suggestions.
>
> Anne Racel
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list

Why is upgrading not an option?

Pablo


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Le sam 14/12/2002 à 11:48, Will Lehman a écrit :
> I am using the version 0.94.1 so I guess it must be some other problem. 
> Unfortunately, I can't think of anything specific thing I've done (firewall, 
> settings, etc) in the mean time to cause the error. I will keep fiddling and 
> if I figure it out I'll let the list know.


I have checked in the logs for your email, for your firstname and for
your lastname, and nothing in the last week.

Nobody has ever had problems to register using 0.94.1 (except if you are
using some special international charachters).

> Thanks
>  
> On Saturday 14 December 2002 03:26 pm, Damien Sandras wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Some people have reported the same problem using old versions of
> > GnomeMeeting.
> >
> > However we don't know what the problem can be as some of the GM testers
> > have confirmed that it was working even with old versions, we suggest
> > you to upgrade your old gnomemeeting version to a newer one (in the 0.9x
> > serie).
> >
> > Le sam 14/12/2002 à 11:21, Will Lehman a écrit :
> > > Hi Everyone:
> > > For the last two weeks or so the server at ils.seconix.com gives me a
> > > message about having to register before seeing other users. However it
> > > appears that I AM registered. I get the "successfully regeistered to
> > > ils.seconix.com" message when starting gnomemeeting and another
> > > "successful logoff" message when quitting! (The registering is set in my
> > > preferences).
> > > Anyone know what could be wrong?
> > > Thanks for any help!
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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Le sam 14/12/2002 à 18:49, Anne Racel a écrit :
> While trying to run gnomemeeting 0.85, I receive the following error:
> 
> gnomemeeting: relocation error: gnomemeeting: undefined symbol: 
> __vt_Q29PIPSocket14InterfaceTable
> 
> Upgrading to 0.95 is not an option.  I'm open to any other suggestions.
> 

It means that you forced and broke dependancies when installing the
packages. Try to install things in a clean way.

> Anne Racel
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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OK, that helped: There was an invalid email address in my settings and ma=
ybe=20
that was the problem? In anycase, after fixing the email, I was able to l=
og=20
in correctly.
Thanks!

On Saturday 14 December 2002 06:09 pm, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Le sam 14/12/2002 =E0 11:48, Will Lehman a =E9crit :
> > I am using the version 0.94.1 so I guess it must be some other proble=
m.
> > Unfortunately, I can't think of anything specific thing I've done
> > (firewall, settings, etc) in the mean time to cause the error. I will
> > keep fiddling and if I figure it out I'll let the list know.
>
> I have checked in the logs for your email, for your firstname and for
> your lastname, and nothing in the last week.
>
> Nobody has ever had problems to register using 0.94.1 (except if you ar=
e
> using some special international charachters).
>
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Saturday 14 December 2002 03:26 pm, Damien Sandras wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Some people have reported the same problem using old versions of
> > > GnomeMeeting.
> > >
> > > However we don't know what the problem can be as some of the GM tes=
ters
> > > have confirmed that it was working even with old versions, we sugge=
st
> > > you to upgrade your old gnomemeeting version to a newer one (in the
> > > 0.9x serie).
> > >
> > > Le sam 14/12/2002 =E0 11:21, Will Lehman a =E9crit :
> > > > Hi Everyone:
> > > > For the last two weeks or so the server at ils.seconix.com gives =
me a
> > > > message about having to register before seeing other users. Howev=
er
> > > > it appears that I AM registered. I get the "successfully regeiste=
red
> > > > to ils.seconix.com" message when starting gnomemeeting and anothe=
r
> > > > "successful logoff" message when quitting! (The registering is se=
t in
> > > > my preferences).
> > > > Anyone know what could be wrong?
> > > > Thanks for any help!
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > > > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list


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I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or ldap 
server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting. The FAQ says 
this is possible starting in version .94 using XDAP, but I haven't been able 
to find exact instructions on how to do this anywhere on the web. Could 
someone please offer assistance?
(I know this is not recommended--this is for experiment only!)
Thanks!!!


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Le dim 15/12/2002 à 13:31, Will Lehman a écrit :
> I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or ldap 
> server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting. The FAQ says 
> this is possible starting in version .94 using XDAP, but I haven't been able 
> to find exact instructions on how to do this anywhere on the web. Could 
> someone please offer assistance?
> (I know this is not recommended--this is for experiment only!)
> Thanks!!!

I don't know how to do it with XDAP, but I'm sure you can do it with a
little tampering of the sources...

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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Le dim 15/12/2002 à 13:31, Will Lehman a écrit :
> I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or ldap 
> server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting. The FAQ says 
> this is possible starting in version .94 using XDAP, but I haven't been able 
> to find exact instructions on how to do this anywhere on the web. Could 
> someone please offer assistance?
> (I know this is not recommended--this is for experiment only!)
> Thanks!!!

You have to modify the xml files in /usr/share/gnomemeeting/xdap 
it is rather easy, but not recommended...

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% *** Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> wrote: ***
% Le dim 15/12/2002 =E0 13:31, Will Lehman a =E9crit :
% > I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or l=
dap=20
% > server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting.

Just a curious question: could you give me a reason of your choice of
the name 'ms-meeting' instead of 'gnomemeeting', pls ?


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Le dim 15/12/2002 à 19:13, Truong a écrit :
> % *** Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> wrote: ***
> % Le dim 15/12/2002 à 13:31, Will Lehman a écrit :
> % > I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or ldap 
> % > server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting.
> 
> Just a curious question: could you give me a reason of your choice of
> the name 'ms-meeting' instead of 'gnomemeeting', pls ?

When netmeeting connects to an ils server, it always search and list
other netmeeting clients. Hence all netmeeting users don't know about
non-netmeeting users. Only ils.seconix.com has been patched to forget
that particular (and antipathic) search key. Hence it could make sense
to appear as a netmeeting on other servers.

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Hi Julien,

% *** PUYDT Julien <julien.puydt@laposte.net> wrote: ***
% Le dim 15/12/2002 =E0 19:13, Truong a =E9crit :
% > % *** Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> wrote: ***
% > % Le dim 15/12/2002 =E0 13:31, Will Lehman a =E9crit :
% > % > I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils =
or ldap=20
% > % > server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting.
% >=20
% > Just a curious question: could you give me a reason of your choice of
% > the name 'ms-meeting' instead of 'gnomemeeting', pls ?
%=20
% When netmeeting connects to an ils server, it always search and list
% other netmeeting clients.

You mean Netmeeting accepts to communicate only with "any" H.323 client
which has a name "ms-netmeeting" in an ILS server ? (As I'am not sure if
I understood it well).


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Le dim 15/12/2002 à 19:47, Truong a écrit :

> You mean Netmeeting accepts to communicate only with "any" H.323 client
> which has a name "ms-netmeeting" in an ILS server ? (As I'am not sure if
> I understood it well).

No, I mean when a nm user asks the list of all users matching a
condition (name=toto or nothing) in an ils server, nm silently adds the
condition "using netmeeting". If the server is honest (ie not
ils.seconix.com), it will then give a list where gnomemeeting users
won't appear.

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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% *** PUYDT Julien <julien.puydt@laposte.net> wrote: ***
% Le dim 15/12/2002 =E0 19:47, Truong a =E9crit :
%=20
% > You mean Netmeeting accepts to communicate only with "any" H.323 client
% > which has a name "ms-netmeeting" in an ILS server ? (As I'am not sure if
% > I understood it well).
%=20
% No, I mean when a nm user asks the list of all users matching a
% condition (name=3Dtoto or nothing) in an ils server, nm silently adds the
% condition "using netmeeting". If the server is honest (ie not
% ils.seconix.com), it will then give a list where gnomemeeting users
% won't appear.
%=20

I understand better now the way NM searches its partners in an ils server.

Thanks for your explains, Julien.

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Hi, just new to VOIP and found gnomemeeting - turns out I've had it for a while on
my distro's CD and didn't even know it

Being new to VOIP, I first started with MSN Messenger since some of the guys in the
office were using it anyway but found that my Linux router's firewall was creating
trouble with the UPnP data system that it uses.

I'm looking for a cross platform (windows 98 and linux) application to improve
communications between our two SOHO offices.  Gnomemeeting and netmeeting look like
two that might work for us

Also, I wanted something that had the potential to tie into a full office wide VOIP
system since I think the future is in that direction (we currently use a Nortel
Norstar system at one site and just simple two line phones at the other site)

I've read a bunch of web pags and HOWTOs and feel that I have the general idea of
how the system works, although trying to pick the actual software packages to use
has left me bewildered (partly I think because some of the articles I've read date
back a  couple of years and I think the software has changed since then)

Anyway, my general understanding is that I can establish two way VOIP calling with
gnomemeeting through my DSL connection.  With the addition of some software, I can
create a private directory to map users to dynamic IP addresses.

Also, additional software and hardware (like the Quicknet phonejack) will allow me
to replace my soundcard, speaker, and mic system with a telephone handset

With other hardware (like the Quicknet linejack) and other software I can actually
bridge between the IP and regular phone line systems

I have a couple of questions that will help me as I try to plan ahead:
- how practical is it to use a VOIP phone system inside a one storey, one location
office? (I'd need an interface card of some type for each phone extension and each
line coming in right?)
- are the VOIP phones essentially the same type of system as a analog phone plugged
into a phonejack card?
- is there a system for linux that could tie in with VOIP to let others on the
system know when someone has logged in (like MSN Messenger for instance)

Also, could someone point me towards a current howto for setting up some of the
more advanced features (while sticking to my soundcard and headset system for now)


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Damien:
THanks for the quick reply! If you could, please give me a hint about wha=
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exactly to change in these files? I have looked at them and don't see an=20
obvious solution (I guess it has something to do with sappid, but there's=
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the config files I'm used to seeing!
Thanks,
Will Lehman


On Sunday 15 December 2002 05:59 pm, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Le dim 15/12/2002 =E0 13:31, Will Lehman a =E9crit :
> > I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or
> > ldap server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting. Th=
e
> > FAQ says this is possible starting in version .94 using XDAP, but I
> > haven't been able to find exact instructions on how to do this anywhe=
re
> > on the web. Could someone please offer assistance?
> > (I know this is not recommended--this is for experiment only!)
> > Thanks!!!
>
> You have to modify the xml files in /usr/share/gnomemeeting/xdap
> it is rather easy, but not recommended...
>
> > _______________________________________________
> > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list


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Le dim 15/12/2002 à 23:59, Will Lehman a écrit :
> Damien:
> THanks for the quick reply! If you could, please give me a hint about what 
> exactly to change in these files? I have looked at them and don't see an 

Each line represents an attribute, for example :
<sappid>&sappid</sappid> will use the sappid provided by GnomeMeeting as
ILS sappid attribute.

The lines beginning by <!ENTITY are sort of constants, if you put a line
like <!ENTITY sappid "ms-netmeeting">, ms-netmeeting will always be used
as attribute value whatever the value provided by the application.

You might have other things to change than the sappid attribute, but it
is the only one I can think of for now. We advise you to not register on
ILS servers using a fake ms-netmeeting ID. Thanks,


> obvious solution (I guess it has something to do with sappid, but there's no 
> line such as "sappid=gnomemeeting" that I could change!
> Sorry for the ignorance, but these xml files are a bit more complicated than 
> the config files I'm used to seeing!
> Thanks,
> Will Lehman
> 
> 
> On Sunday 15 December 2002 05:59 pm, Damien Sandras wrote:
> > Le dim 15/12/2002 à 13:31, Will Lehman a écrit :
> > > I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or
> > > ldap server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting. The
> > > FAQ says this is possible starting in version .94 using XDAP, but I
> > > haven't been able to find exact instructions on how to do this anywhere
> > > on the web. Could someone please offer assistance?
> > > (I know this is not recommended--this is for experiment only!)
> > > Thanks!!!
> >
> > You have to modify the xml files in /usr/share/gnomemeeting/xdap
> > it is rather easy, but not recommended...
> >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
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Le lun 16/12/2002 à 04:34, Brian Johnson a écrit :
> Hi, just new to VOIP and found gnomemeeting - turns out I've had it for a while on
> my distro's CD and didn't even know it
> 


> Anyway, my general understanding is that I can establish two way VOIP calling with
> gnomemeeting through my DSL connection.  With the addition of some software, I can
> create a private directory to map users to dynamic IP addresses.
> 

Using either an ILS directory, or better, an H323 Gatekeeper.

> Also, additional software and hardware (like the Quicknet phonejack) will allow me
> to replace my soundcard, speaker, and mic system with a telephone handset
> 

Right :)

> With other hardware (like the Quicknet linejack) and other software I can actually
> bridge between the IP and regular phone line systems
> 

Yes, and you can also use external services providers.

> I have a couple of questions that will help me as I try to plan ahead:
> - how practical is it to use a VOIP phone system inside a one storey, one location
> office? (I'd need an interface card of some type for each phone extension and each
> line coming in right?)

Yes I think so too, but I'm not an expert in gateways. However, you can
try ISDN to H.323 gateways like this one :
http://www.telos.de/linux/H323/default_e.htm
but better ask on their mailing list for gateway related information.

> - are the VOIP phones essentially the same type of system as a analog phone plugged
> into a phonejack card?

Yes, it is essentially a well-integrated VOIP hardware system.

> - is there a system for linux that could tie in with VOIP to let others on the
> system know when someone has logged in (like MSN Messenger for instance)
> 

I don't think so. When someone logs in, the MSN server sends a message,
but with ILS and gatekeepers, you can't do that. 

> Also, could someone point me towards a current howto for setting up some of the
> more advanced features (while sticking to my soundcard and headset system for now)
> 

Perhaps try to find on google "Linux VOIP Howto", this Howto is not very
complete yet, but it is a good start.
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Le Samedi 14 D=E9cembre 2002 12:48, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> We already discussed that problem many times with you, your problem is
> simple, you are using PPP.
> A ppp connection is not enough to have a good quality.
---------------------------------
I don't follow all the discussions "poor audio quality",
so sorry to ask with this question :
what I have to add more than ppp ... ?
(I'm under a RTC modem)
may be with an ADSL connection, it will work better ...
thanks
antoine=20
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hai,
     i am new to gnomemeeting. i am using redhat7.2
and webcam is intel create and share. i am using the
module spca50x.my webcam works fine under gqcam
package. when i run gnomemeeting it tells that video
device were opened and also the test image was
transmitted.but i couldn't see  the test image.Help me
to come out this problem. 
         Thanking you 


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Le lun 16/12/2002 à 12:46, antoine a écrit :
> Le Samedi 14 Décembre 2002 12:48, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> > We already discussed that problem many times with you, your problem is
> > simple, you are using PPP.
> > A ppp connection is not enough to have a good quality.
> ---------------------------------
> I don't follow all the discussions "poor audio quality",
> so sorry to ask with this question :
> what I have to add more than ppp ... ?
> (I'm under a RTC modem)
> may be with an ADSL connection, it will work better ...
> thanks
> antoine 

RTC is/should be enough as long as none of the sides is sending video,
but I guess it depends much of the time when you connect.
If one of the sides is sending video; you need ADSL.


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Le lun 16/12/2002 à 12:17, prem kannan a écrit :
> hai,
>      i am new to gnomemeeting. i am using redhat7.2
> and webcam is intel create and share. i am using the
> module spca50x.my webcam works fine under gqcam
> package. when i run gnomemeeting it tells that video
> device were opened and also the test image was
> transmitted.but i couldn't see  the test image.Help me
> to come out this problem. 
>          Thanking you 

I'm not sure I understand your question.
The test image is automatically displayed when you enable video preview
and that there is a problem while opening the video device.
Here is help for you:

http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3&pos=0#AEN291

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> RTC is/should be enough as long as none of the sides is sending video,
> but I guess it depends much of the time when you connect.
> If one of the sides is sending video; you need ADSL.
------------------------------
I will see it later when i'm under ADSL ...  soon !
antoine Wach=E9


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On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 21:26, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Le lun 16/12/2002 =E0 12:17, prem kannan a =E9crit :
> > hai,
> >      i am new to gnomemeeting. i am using redhat7.2
> > and webcam is intel create and share. i am using the
> > module spca50x.my webcam works fine under gqcam
> > package. when i run gnomemeeting it tells that video
> > device were opened and also the test image was
> > transmitted.but i couldn't see  the test image.Help me
> > to come out this problem.=20
> >          Thanking you=20
>=20
There is a patch that has been put in the version of pwlib that has been
compiled with GM 0.94.1 for the spca50x driver so it knows what color
format to use.  if your using a version of GM Prior to this you will
need to either patch your pwlib. or update to gm 0.94.1  which on a RH
7.2 system will involve a gnome libs update. i can supply you with the
patch you need if thats what you want to do. what is the cs number of
the camera?  the cs430 needs alot of light to get a proper image not
sure about the cs330 havent tested mine much yet.

Dennis

> I'm not sure I understand your question.
> The test image is automatically displayed when you enable video preview
> and that there is a problem while opening the video device.
> Here is help for you:
>=20
> http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3D3&pos=3D0#AEN291
>=20
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Please find attached a fairly simple patch (against the 0.94.1 tree) that adds
another capture size to GnomeMeeting.

This capture size I have named "Small (Scaled)".  Its function is simple; it
captures the image from the camera at CIF resolution, then, after conditioning
by H323VideoDevice::Redraw, it scales the image down to QCIF for
display/transmission.  

On my Logitech QuickCam Web, this improves QCIF image quality dramatically.  I'm
not sure if others have the same problems that I do; perhaps it's a driver- or
hardware-specific problem. To see the effect without applying the patch, compare
the QCIF image at regular (100%) zoom to the CIF image zoomed out to 50%
(without bilinear interpolation).  This is the image that my patch gives at 100%.

Does this seem useful to anyone else?  If not, Damien, don't feel compelled to
apply it.  It's rather hackish; a more elegant solution would have required
moving some code around.  It's certainly something I will continue to maintain,
because it makes GnomeMeeting that much more usable for me over slow links.

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Brian Teague


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Brian,

I have the same camera that you do.  I haven't been able to get it to talk
to my system.  Please share your config - OS, version, hardware, drivers,
...

Thanks

Les

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Subject: [GnomeMeeting-list] [PATCH] QCIF Small (Scaled) capture mode


Please find attached a fairly simple patch (against the 0.94.1 tree) that
adds
another capture size to GnomeMeeting.

This capture size I have named "Small (Scaled)".  Its function is simple; it
captures the image from the camera at CIF resolution, then, after
conditioning
by H323VideoDevice::Redraw, it scales the image down to QCIF for
display/transmission.  

On my Logitech QuickCam Web, this improves QCIF image quality dramatically.
I'm
not sure if others have the same problems that I do; perhaps it's a driver-
or
hardware-specific problem. To see the effect without applying the patch,
compare
the QCIF image at regular (100%) zoom to the CIF image zoomed out to 50%
(without bilinear interpolation).  This is the image that my patch gives at
100%.

Does this seem useful to anyone else?  If not, Damien, don't feel compelled
to
apply it.  It's rather hackish; a more elegant solution would have required
moving some code around.  It's certainly something I will continue to
maintain,
because it makes GnomeMeeting that much more usable for me over slow links.

Regards,
Brian Teague



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Le mar 17/12/2002 à 19:59, bteague@rice.edu a écrit :
> Please find attached a fairly simple patch (against the 0.94.1 tree) that adds
> another capture size to GnomeMeeting.
> 
> This capture size I have named "Small (Scaled)".  Its function is simple; it
> captures the image from the camera at CIF resolution, then, after conditioning
> by H323VideoDevice::Redraw, it scales the image down to QCIF for
> display/transmission.  
> 
Hello Brian,

Unfortunately, as I understand the patch, it only scales the picture
when displaying it, not for transmission. You would have the exact same
result by choosing to transmit "Large", and scaling down the image to
50%. If I understand your patch correctly of course.

If you are still interested in developing a patch to be able to make
your driver capture in CIF, but to transmit a QCIF scaled down image, it
has to be done in pwlib. It is of course very interesting to do because
that way, cameras supporting QSIF (160x120), could scale up the image to
QCIF (176x144) before sending the picture.

Let me know if you are interested in doing this, and I will guide you
through the code, it is very uncommon to find people willing to help.

Thanks,



> On my Logitech QuickCam Web, this improves QCIF image quality dramatically.  I'm
> not sure if others have the same problems that I do; perhaps it's a driver- or
> hardware-specific problem. To see the effect without applying the patch, compare
> the QCIF image at regular (100%) zoom to the CIF image zoomed out to 50%
> (without bilinear interpolation).  This is the image that my patch gives at 100%.
> 
> Does this seem useful to anyone else?  If not, Damien, don't feel compelled to
> apply it.  It's rather hackish; a more elegant solution would have required
> moving some code around.  It's certainly something I will continue to maintain,
> because it makes GnomeMeeting that much more usable for me over slow links.
> 
> Regards,
> Brian Teague
-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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There are lots of documentation you should read at www.gnomemeeting.org.
If after that reading you still have problems using the software, i
suggest you to mail gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org with your problems, were
lots of people will be able to help you.

Thank you for trying GnomeMeeting.

El mar, 17-12-2002 a las 22:20, Boi Roig Roig escribió:
> Hello,
> 
>     I'm Boi Roig Roig.
> 
>         I wish to run this software using my webcam, but I have no help 
> files. GnomeMeeting logs "no gatekeeper found" and I can't find someone 
> because says that I am not registered.
> 
> Where could I found help, and where could I register me?
> 
> 
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> Hello Brian,
> 
> Unfortunately, as I understand the patch, it only scales the picture
> when displaying it, not for transmission. 

Yes.  I noticed that.  I was so excited to finally have local video looking good
that I forgot to check the transmitted result.

> 
> If you are still interested in developing a patch to be able to make
> your driver capture in CIF, but to transmit a QCIF scaled down image, it
> has to be done in pwlib. It is of course very interesting to do because
> that way, cameras supporting QSIF (160x120), could scale up the image to
> QCIF (176x144) before sending the picture.

I think arbitrary scaling of the transmitted video (ie, from an arbitrary frame
size to CIF or QCIF) sounds like a good idea.  Unforunately, I was using
Gdk-pixbuf to do the actual scaling, which means I'd have to actually implement
the scaler myself.  Or does PWLib have it somewhere already?

> 
> Let me know if you are interested in doing this, and I will guide you
> through the code, it is very uncommon to find people willing to help.

Certainly.

At first, I tried doing it in videograbber.cpp, in the main loop between
channel->Read() and channel->Write().  The implementation was really clean, but
the results were horrible; apparently, H323VideoDevice::Redraw() does some
conditioning of the image that makes it scale better.  (Or is it just that the
image data between channel->Read() and channel->Write() isn't in RGB format yet,
and so a simple box filter doesn't work?  I couldn't really tell.)

I'd be more than happy to work on a more general-purpose version of this
concept... as long as it still works in the special case for which I attempted
to write it in the first place.  (-;

Thanks!

Brian


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> I think arbitrary scaling of the transmitted video (ie, from an arbitrary frame
> size to CIF or QCIF) sounds like a good idea.  Unforunately, I was using
> Gdk-pixbuf to do the actual scaling, which means I'd have to actually implement
> the scaler myself.  Or does PWLib have it somewhere already?
> 

No, PWLib is only able to "crop" the image. So if a given webcam can
only capture in CIF mode, only a part of the CIF picture will be
transmitted in QCIF mode. If you are interested to work on this in pwlib
itself, I think it would be a good contribution to gnomemeeting and
OpenH323, but it won't be easy.

If you want, you can already have a look in
pwlib/src/ptlib/unix/video4linux.cxx and perhaps rewrite the function
that crops picture to resize it instead. but again, that won't be easy.
You can perhaps reuse some code from gdk_pixbuf to achieve it.



> > 
> > Let me know if you are interested in doing this, and I will guide you
> > through the code, it is very uncommon to find people willing to help.
> 

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Le mer 18/12/2002 à 14:33, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> You can perhaps reuse some code from gdk_pixbuf to achieve it.

Beware of the license of the code...

Snark


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Hi,

I have the same problem with getting almost instantly disconnected
(also the closing / opening of videodevice message) when attempting a
connection to a Netmeeting whatever version it may be (I tried against
Netmeeting 2.11 and 3.01). I will try to describe what I tried till
now:

I have the camera installed on the firewall of my network, which is a
Mandrake 9.0. Same symptom remains also when firewall is disabled
completely and a portscan on myself showed no blocking of any ports. So
firewall is not an issue.I tried both with Gnomemeeting 93.1 and 94.1.

I tried against a WinXp NetMeeting 3.01 and a Win98SE 2.11 and still
same. Tried to kill the sound server but still no go.

But I did find out one funny thing.

If the other person disables the videotransmission, then it works. It
works meaning that he can see me and hear me and I can hear him. As
soon as he starts the video transmission from his netmeeting,
connection is lost. In most cases I see in my call logs "The other
party has cleared the connection.".

I don't know if knowing that without video transmission from the
NetMeeting end works will help, but thought I'd share it. If anyone can
instruct me how to start both NetMeeting and Gnomemeeting with debug
output I would appreciate it. Maybe I can provide some more input on
what is happening.

BTW, me and the other guy have both A-DSL 768/128 Kb dl/ul. So I don't
think speed is a prob. On the other hand I succesfully connected to
other persons running Gnomemeeting.

Tweaking any possible settings including video quality and FPS
limitation didn't help at all (and beleive me when I say that for the
last 2 days I tried everything I could change in the configs/options
and searched the entire net for solutions). And BTW, disable video
and/or audio on my side didn't change a thing. The connection breaks as
soon as the NetMeeting user turns on video transmission.

Best regards,
Adrian Golumbovici

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Le mer 18/12/2002 à 17:10, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :

many things, but I'll take only that line:
> So firewall is not an issue
you only proved it wasn't an issue on YOUR side... what about the other
side?

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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You can run gnomemeeting with --debug=3 and see.
But, given the fact that:
- GnomeMeeting indicates that Netmeeting clears the call
- the problem disappear if the the Netmeeting user doesn't transmit
video
- the problem doesn't disappear if you disable video transmission
- you have no problems with other GnomeMeeting users

I would say that the Netmeeting is faulty and for one reason or another
decides that it can't transmit video. The problem is to discover *why*
Netmeeting suddenly decides to stop the connection. I think GnomeMeeting
can't do anything to prevent it if the Netmeeting disconnects.



Le mer 18/12/2002 à 17:10, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I have the same problem with getting almost instantly disconnected
> (also the closing / opening of videodevice message) when attempting a
> connection to a Netmeeting whatever version it may be (I tried against
> Netmeeting 2.11 and 3.01). I will try to describe what I tried till
> now:
> 
> I have the camera installed on the firewall of my network, which is a
> Mandrake 9.0. Same symptom remains also when firewall is disabled
> completely and a portscan on myself showed no blocking of any ports. So
> firewall is not an issue.I tried both with Gnomemeeting 93.1 and 94.1.
> 
> I tried against a WinXp NetMeeting 3.01 and a Win98SE 2.11 and still
> same. Tried to kill the sound server but still no go.
> 
> But I did find out one funny thing.
> 
> If the other person disables the videotransmission, then it works. It
> works meaning that he can see me and hear me and I can hear him. As
> soon as he starts the video transmission from his netmeeting,
> connection is lost. In most cases I see in my call logs "The other
> party has cleared the connection.".
> 
> I don't know if knowing that without video transmission from the
> NetMeeting end works will help, but thought I'd share it. If anyone can
> instruct me how to start both NetMeeting and Gnomemeeting with debug
> output I would appreciate it. Maybe I can provide some more input on
> what is happening.
> 
> BTW, me and the other guy have both A-DSL 768/128 Kb dl/ul. So I don't
> think speed is a prob. On the other hand I succesfully connected to
> other persons running Gnomemeeting.
> 
> Tweaking any possible settings including video quality and FPS
> limitation didn't help at all (and beleive me when I say that for the
> last 2 days I tried everything I could change in the configs/options
> and searched the entire net for solutions). And BTW, disable video
> and/or audio on my side didn't change a thing. The connection breaks as
> soon as the NetMeeting user turns on video transmission.
> 
> Best regards,
> Adrian Golumbovici
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Oh well...

First of all on the other side there is a LAN but he is also on his =
gateway (WinXP). Firewall on his side is also disabled. The maximum a =
connection held was about 20 seconds. For about 0 to 5 seconds I can see =
him but suddenly connection drops.:/ So I guess his firewall is also out =
of the question.

I know it might be a Netmeeting problem, but I think it might be in =
relation with gnomemeeting or I wouldn't be posting in here in the first =
place.:)

As far as I know he had successfull connections with other netmeeting =
users. So I was wondering if any other user had same prob and found this =
list. At least in theory it should be compatible...

I waited for a year visiting each day the developer sites to see a OV518 =
based webcam driver and finally got it. Now I was just eager to use it.

I guess I could also try to buy another network card and try to install =
adsl driver on my win2k PC and see for myself if he really can connect =
netmeeting to netmeeting.

But as I am sick of M$ I just hoped that soon I can finally switch to =
linux forever....

Oh well... I will try to run gnomemeeting with debug and see if I can =
come up with better info on what happens...

In the mean time if anyone can think of a reason for which this is =
happening or had this prob and solved it, please let me know. :)

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh well...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>First of all on the other side there is =
a&nbsp;LAN=20
but he is also on his gateway (WinXP). Firewall on his side is also =
disabled.=20
The maximum a connection held was about 20 seconds. For about 0 to 5 =
seconds I=20
can see him but suddenly connection drops.:/ So I guess his firewall is =
also out=20
of the question.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know it might be a Netmeeting =
problem, but I=20
think it might be in relation with gnomemeeting or I wouldn't be posting =
in here=20
in the first place.:)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As far as I know he had successfull =
connections=20
with other netmeeting users. So I was wondering if any other user had =
same prob=20
and found this list. At least in theory it should be =
compatible...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I waited for a year visiting each day =
the developer=20
sites to see a OV518 based webcam driver and finally got it. Now I was =
just=20
eager to use it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I guess I could also try to buy another =
network=20
card and try to install adsl driver on my win2k PC and see for myself if =
he=20
really can connect netmeeting to netmeeting.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But as I am sick of M$ I just hoped =
that soon I can=20
finally switch to linux forever....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh well... I will try to run =
gnomemeeting with=20
debug and see if I can come up with better info on what =
happens...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In the mean time if anyone can think of =
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We had similar reports in the past and the problem was always because of
firewalls.

Now, try to capture the output of --debug=3 and send it to the list but
there is a big chance that we will only notice that Netmeeting simply
decided to disconnect. Make him double check all his settings. For
example, in his connection settings, make sure he is not telling to
Netmeeting that he has ppp connection or something like that. Try to ask
him to put "Lan" or something like that.

Also make sure that his firewall is really disabled.

Le mer 18/12/2002 à 19:05, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> Oh well...
>  
> First of all on the other side there is a LAN but he is also on his
> gateway (WinXP). Firewall on his side is also disabled. The maximum a
> connection held was about 20 seconds. For about 0 to 5 seconds I can
> see him but suddenly connection drops.:/ So I guess his firewall is
> also out of the question.
>  
> I know it might be a Netmeeting problem, but I think it might be in
> relation with gnomemeeting or I wouldn't be posting in here in the
> first place.:)
>  
> As far as I know he had successfull connections with other netmeeting
> users. So I was wondering if any other user had same prob and found
> this list. At least in theory it should be compatible...
>  
> I waited for a year visiting each day the developer sites to see a
> OV518 based webcam driver and finally got it. Now I was just eager to
> use it.
>  
> I guess I could also try to buy another network card and try to
> install adsl driver on my win2k PC and see for myself if he really can
> connect netmeeting to netmeeting.
>  
> But as I am sick of M$ I just hoped that soon I can finally switch to
> linux forever....
>  
> Oh well... I will try to run gnomemeeting with debug and see if I can
> come up with better info on what happens...
>  
> In the mean time if anyone can think of a reason for which this is
> happening or had this prob and solved it, please let me know. :)
>  
-- 
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ummm.... why putting ppp as his connection in Netmeeting might  create
probs?!?
and if firewall would be an issue, why would I still get at least 0-5
seconds of image from him?

I know a bit about firewalling (configured a few myself) but am not
declaring myself an expert. Still, getting only a part of the transmission
through a firewall doesn't make much sense...

P.S. As soon as I can get him to help me debug it I will post the results.

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> We had similar reports in the past and the problem was always because of
> firewalls.
>
> Now, try to capture the output of --debug=3 and send it to the list but
> there is a big chance that we will only notice that Netmeeting simply
> decided to disconnect. Make him double check all his settings. For
> example, in his connection settings, make sure he is not telling to
> Netmeeting that he has ppp connection or something like that. Try to ask
> him to put "Lan" or something like that.
>
> Also make sure that his firewall is really disabled.
>
> Le mer 18/12/2002 à 19:05, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> > Oh well...
> >
> > First of all on the other side there is a LAN but he is also on his
> > gateway (WinXP). Firewall on his side is also disabled. The maximum a
> > connection held was about 20 seconds. For about 0 to 5 seconds I can
> > see him but suddenly connection drops.:/ So I guess his firewall is
> > also out of the question.
> >
> > I know it might be a Netmeeting problem, but I think it might be in
> > relation with gnomemeeting or I wouldn't be posting in here in the
> > first place.:)
> >
> > As far as I know he had successfull connections with other netmeeting
> > users. So I was wondering if any other user had same prob and found
> > this list. At least in theory it should be compatible...
> >
> > I waited for a year visiting each day the developer sites to see a
> > OV518 based webcam driver and finally got it. Now I was just eager to
> > use it.
> >
> > I guess I could also try to buy another network card and try to
> > install adsl driver on my win2k PC and see for myself if he really can
> > connect netmeeting to netmeeting.
> >
> > But as I am sick of M$ I just hoped that soon I can finally switch to
> > linux forever....
> >
> > Oh well... I will try to run gnomemeeting with debug and see if I can
> > come up with better info on what happens...
> >
> > In the mean time if anyone can think of a reason for which this is
> > happening or had this prob and solved it, please let me know. :)
> >
> --
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>
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Le mer 18/12/2002 à 19:23, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> ummm.... why putting ppp as his connection in Netmeeting might  create
> probs?!?

For the same reason why using Windows might create probs? ;-)

> and if firewall would be an issue, why would I still get at least 0-5
> seconds of image from him?

Because it is outgoing traffic for him, outgoing traffic is rarely
firewalled, people usually only filter incoming traffic. The problem is
probably that his netmeeting doesn't receive any data from you, thus it
disconnects.
If it doesn't receive any data from you, either the data doesn't leave
your computer, or the data is dropped on his side.

> 
> I know a bit about firewalling (configured a few myself) but am not
> declaring myself an expert. Still, getting only a part of the transmission
> through a firewall doesn't make much sense...

Why not? Isn't it the purpose of firewalls to filter connections and to
accept some of them and reject others ?

> 
> P.S. As soon as I can get him to help me debug it I will post the results.
> 

-- 
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> > ummm.... why putting ppp as his connection in Netmeeting might  create
> > probs?!?
>
> For the same reason why using Windows might create probs? ;-)

Lol. You got a point there. ;)

>
> > and if firewall would be an issue, why would I still get at least 0-5
> > seconds of image from him?
>
> Because it is outgoing traffic for him, outgoing traffic is rarely
> firewalled, people usually only filter incoming traffic. The problem is
> probably that his netmeeting doesn't receive any data from you, thus it
> disconnects.
> If it doesn't receive any data from you, either the data doesn't leave
> your computer, or the data is dropped on his side.

I knew you guys know more about this than me. :)

> > I know a bit about firewalling (configured a few myself) but am not
> > declaring myself an expert. Still, getting only a part of the
transmission
> > through a firewall doesn't make much sense...
>
> Why not? Isn't it the purpose of firewalls to filter connections and to
> accept some of them and reject others ?

I know that. But this usually happens on different ports and different
directions of communication and not on one port and one directions but just
for a few seconds. :/


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Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:30:57 +0100
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OK. I started it with --debug=3. As before he connected at first without
video transmission enabled and after a while (about 30 seconds) he started
it and connection dropped as before in a few seconds. Here is the Log:

0:06.088 gnomemeeting gnomemeeting Version 0.94.1 by on Unix Linux
(2.4.19-16mdk-i686) at 2002/12/18 19:15:52.784

0:06.094 gnomemeeting H323 Started listener Listener[ip$*:1720]

0:06.096 H323 Listener:822f478 H323 Awaiting TCP connections on port 1720

0:06.186 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1

0:06.567 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLimits.
160x120 -- 352x288

0:06.773 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLimits.
160x120 -- 352x288

0:06.911 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeeded
for converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P

0:06.912 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLimits.
160x120 -- 352x288

0:06.912 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

0:07.052 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

0:29.086 H323 Listener:822f478 H323TCP Started connection:
host=217.82.7.44:4348, if=80.134.251.111:1720, handle=32

0:29.087 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Started incoming call thread

0:29.088 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Awaiting first PDU

0:29.105 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Receiving PDU: setup

0:29.105 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Incoming call, first PDU:
callReference=26496

0:29.107 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>

0:29.108 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>

0:29.108 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15k{sw} <3>

0:29.109 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k{sw} <4>

0:29.109 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>

0:29.110 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>

0:29.110 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:29.111 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <8>

0:29.111 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:29.111 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>

0:29.112 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>

0:29.112 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>

0:29.113 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: SpeexNarrow-15k{sw} <3>

0:29.113 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: SpeexNarrow-8k{sw} <4>

0:29.113 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>

0:29.114 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>

0:29.114 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:29.115 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <8>

0:29.115 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:29.116 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <10>

0:29.117 H225 Answer:82595c8 RFC2833 Handler created

0:29.118 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Created new connection:
ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496

0:29.119 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Handling PDU: Setup callRef=26496

0:29.119 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Set protocol version to 1 and implying
H.245 version 2

0:29.120 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Set remote application name: "Microsoft®
NetMeeting® 2.11 181/21324"

0:29.122 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Sending call proceeding PDU

0:29.126 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Sending PDU: callProceeding

0:29.145 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Incoming call accepted

0:29.657 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Answering call: AnswerCallNow

0:29.657 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 TCP Listen for H245 on
80.134.251.111:30000

0:29.658 H245:8259dd0 H245 Started thread

0:29.659 H245:8259dd0 H245 TCP Accept wait

0:29.660 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Sending PDU: connect

0:29.663 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=HasExecutedSignalConnect fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:29.664 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=HasExecutedSignalConnect fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:29.665 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Reading PDUs: callRef=26496

0:30.668 H245:8259dd0 H323TCP Started connection: host=217.82.7.44:4351,
if=80.134.251.111:30000, handle=38

0:30.669 H245:8259dd0 H245 Started control channel

0:30.670 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending TerminalCapabilitySet: outSeq=1

0:30.679 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: request terminalCapabilitySet

0:30.682 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending MasterSlaveDetermination

0:30.683 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: request masterSlaveDetermination

0:30.689 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: request terminalCapabilitySet

0:30.689 H245:8259dd0 H245 Set protocol version to 2

0:30.690 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received TerminalCapabilitySet: state=InProgress
pduSeq=1 inSeq=4294967295

0:30.690 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>

0:30.691 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>

0:30.691 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15k{sw} <3>

0:30.692 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k{sw} <4>

0:30.692 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>

0:30.693 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>

0:30.693 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:30.694 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <8>

0:30.694 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:30.694 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>

0:30.695 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:30.696 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <8>

0:30.696 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.723.1A(6.3k)-Cisco{hw} <11>

0:30.697 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.723.1A(5.3k){hw} <12>

0:30.697 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.723.1A(6.3k){hw} <13>

0:30.698 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.723.1(5.3k){hw} <14>

0:30.698 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.723.1{hw} <15>

0:30.699 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.729A/B{hw} <16>

0:30.699 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.729A{hw} <17>

0:30.700 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{hw} <18>

0:30.700 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.728{hw} <19>

0:30.701 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{hw} <20>

0:30.702 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{hw} <21>

0:30.702 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>

0:30.703 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: MS-IMA-ADPCM{sw} <22>

0:30.704 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>

0:30.704 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.726-16k{sw} <23>

0:30.705 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.726-24k{sw} <24>

0:30.705 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>

0:30.706 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.726-40k{sw} <25>

0:30.706 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>

0:30.707 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.729A{n/a} <26>

0:30.708 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.729{n/a} <27>

0:30.708 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-18.2k{sw} <28>

0:30.709 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: SpeexNarrow-15k{sw} <3>

0:30.710 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-11k{sw} <29>

0:30.710 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: SpeexNarrow-8k{sw} <4>

0:30.711 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-5.95k{sw} <30>

0:30.711 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: UserInput/hookflash <31>

0:30.712 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: UserInput/basicString <32>

0:30.712 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: UserInput/dtmf <33>

0:30.715 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: UserInput/RFC2833 <34>

0:30.715 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <8>

0:30.716 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:30.717 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.723.1A(5.3k){hw} <12>

0:30.717 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:30.718 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:30.719 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <1>

0:30.720 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:30.720 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.723.1(5.3k){hw} <4>

0:30.721 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <6>

0:30.721 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <7>

0:30.722 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.723.1(5.3k){hw} <4>

0:30.722 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:30.723 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <1>

0:30.724 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: H.261-QCIF <6>

0:30.724 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.723.1(5.3k){hw} <4>

0:30.724 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:30.725 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <1>

0:30.725 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <7>

0:30.726 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received capability set, is accepted

0:30.726 H245:8259dd0 H245 TerminalCapabilitySet already in progress:
outSeq=1

0:30.727 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: response terminalCapabilitySetAck

0:30.728 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=HasExecutedSignalConnect fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:31.002 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: request masterSlaveDetermination

0:31.006 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received MasterSlaveDetermination: state=Outgoing

0:31.007 H245:8259dd0 H245 MasterSlaveDetermination: local is slave

0:31.007 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: response masterSlaveDeterminationAck

0:31.008 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=HasExecutedSignalConnect fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:31.342 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: response terminalCapabilitySetAck

0:31.343 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received TerminalCapabilitySetAck:
state=InProgress pduSeq=1 outSeq=1

0:31.344 H245:8259dd0 H245 TerminalCapabilitySet Sent.

0:31.344 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=HasExecutedSignalConnect fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:31.696 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: response
masterSlaveDeterminationAck

0:31.696 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received MasterSlaveDeterminationAck:
state=Incoming

0:31.697 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=HasExecutedSignalConnect fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:31.698 H245:8259dd0 H245 Default OnSelectLogicalChannels,
FastStartDisabled

0:31.698 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:31.699 H245:8259dd0 H323 Selecting G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:31.699 H245:8259dd0 H245 Opening channel: T-101

0:31.702 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP Session 1 created: data=5000 control=5001
ssrc=543449014

0:31.704 H245:8259dd0 RTP Adding session RTP_UDP

0:31.704 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Transmitter created using session 1

0:31.705 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnSendingPDU

0:31.706 H245:8259dd0 RTP OnSendingPDU

0:31.707 H245:8259dd0 Codec G711 uLaw encoder created for at 64k, frame of
240 samples

0:31.894 H245:8259dd0 Codec Opened sound channel "/dev/sound/dsp" for
recording using 4x480 byte buffers.

0:31.895 H245:8259dd0 H323 Started sending logical channel:
G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:31.902 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Opened using capability G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:31.902 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Bandwidth requested/used = 64.0/0.0 kb/s

0:31.903 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: -0.0kb/s, available:
10000.0kb/s

0:31.904 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: +64.0kb/s, available:
10000.0kb/s

0:31.905 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: request openLogicalChannel

0:31.906 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: H.261-QCIF <6>

0:31.907 H245:8259dd0 H323 Selecting H.261-QCIF <6>

0:31.907 H245:8259dd0 H245 Opening channel: T-102

0:31.909 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP Session 2 created: data=5002 control=5003
ssrc=4193115180

0:31.910 H245:8259dd0 RTP Adding session RTP_UDP

0:31.910 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Transmitter created using session 2

0:31.911 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnSendingPDU

0:31.911 H245:8259dd0 RTP OnSendingPDU

0:31.912 H245:8259dd0 H261 QCIF encoder created.

0:31.913 H245:8259dd0 SetAverageBandwidth for video to 0bps

0:31.915 H245:8259dd0 H323 Started sending logical channel: H.261-QCIF <6>

0:31.919 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Opened using capability H.261-QCIF <6>

0:31.919 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Bandwidth requested/used = 240.0/0.0 kb/s

0:31.920 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: -0.0kb/s, available:
9936.0kb/s

0:31.920 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: +240.0kb/s, available:
9936.0kb/s

0:31.921 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: request openLogicalChannel

0:31.935 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: request openLogicalChannel

0:31.936 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received open channel: R-257, state=Released

0:31.937 H245:8259dd0 H323 CreateLogicalChannel - forward channel

0:31.937 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:31.938 H245:8259dd0 RTP Found existing session 2

0:31.938 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Receiver created using session 2

0:31.939 H245:8259dd0 H261 QCIF decoder created.

0:31.939 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Bandwidth requested/used = 240.0/0.0 kb/s

0:31.940 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: -0.0kb/s, available:
9696.0kb/s

0:31.940 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: +240.0kb/s, available:
9696.0kb/s

0:31.941 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnReceivedPDU for channel: R-257

0:31.942 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP SetRemoteSocketInfo: control channel,
new=217.82.7.44:5005, local=80.134.251.111:5002-5003, remote=0.0.0.0:0-0

0:31.942 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnSendOpenAck

0:31.943 H245:8259dd0 RTP OnSendingAckPDU

0:31.943 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Sending open logical channel ACK: sessionID=2

0:31.944 H245:8259dd0 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1

0:31.945 H245:8259dd0 H323 Started receiving logical channel: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:32.006 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:32.006 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:32.513 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:32.513 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:33.023 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:33.024 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:33.533 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:33.534 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:33.954 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: command miscellaneousCommand

0:33.956 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Opened using capability H.261-QCIF <9>

0:33.957 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receive H.261 thread started.

0:33.958 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: response openLogicalChannelAck

0:33.959 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:33.961 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: request openLogicalChannel

0:33.962 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received open channel: R-258, state=Released

0:33.963 H245:8259dd0 H323 CreateLogicalChannel - forward channel

0:33.963 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:33.964 H245:8259dd0 RTP Found existing session 1

0:33.964 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Receiver created using session 1

0:33.964 H245:8259dd0 Codec G711 uLaw decoder created for at 64k, frame of
256 samples

0:33.965 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Bandwidth requested/used = 64.0/0.0 kb/s

0:33.965 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: -0.0kb/s, available:
9456.0kb/s

0:33.966 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: +64.0kb/s, available:
9456.0kb/s

0:33.967 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnReceivedPDU for channel: R-258

0:33.967 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP SetRemoteSocketInfo: control channel,
new=217.82.7.44:5013, local=80.134.251.111:5000-5001, remote=0.0.0.0:0-0

0:33.968 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnSendOpenAck

0:33.968 H245:8259dd0 RTP OnSendingAckPDU

0:33.969 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Sending open logical channel ACK: sessionID=1

/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy

0:33.992 H245:8259dd0 Codec Opened sound channel "/dev/sound/dsp" for
playing using 4x512 byte buffers.

0:33.993 H245:8259dd0 H323 Started receiving logical channel:
G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:33.994 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Opened using capability G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:34.001 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: response openLogicalChannelAck

0:34.002 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:34.004 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: response openLogicalChannelAck

0:34.005 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received open channel ack: T-101,
state=AwaitingEstablishment

0:34.005 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnReceiveOpenAck

0:34.005 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP SetRemoteSocketInfo: control channel,
new=217.82.7.44:5013, local=80.134.251.111:5000-5001,
remote=217.82.7.44:5012-5013

0:34.006 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP SetRemoteSocketInfo: data channel,
new=217.82.7.44:5012, local=80.134.251.111:5000-5001,
remote=217.82.7.44:5012-5013

0:34.008 LogChanRx:81e9730 H323RTP Receive G.711-uLaw-64k thread started.

0:34.009 LogChanRx:81e9730 RTP Jitter buffer created: size=41 delay=1600

0:34.010 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:34.011 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: response openLogicalChannelAck

0:34.012 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received open channel ack: T-102,
state=AwaitingEstablishment

0:34.012 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnReceiveOpenAck

0:34.013 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP SetRemoteSocketInfo: control channel,
new=217.82.7.44:5005, local=80.134.251.111:5002-5003,
remote=217.82.7.44:5004-5005

0:34.014 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP SetRemoteSocketInfo: data channel,
new=217.82.7.44:5004, local=80.134.251.111:5002-5003,
remote=217.82.7.44:5004-5005

0:34.015 LogChanTx:828b830 H323RTP Transmit G.711-uLaw-64k thread started:
rate=240 time=30ms size=30*8=240

0:34.017 RTP Jitter:81ea858 RTP Jitter RTP receive thread started

0:34.018 LogChanTx:8264488 H323RTP Transmit H.261 thread started: rate=0
time=0ms size=1*2000=2000

0:34.023 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:34.025 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: command miscellaneousCommand

0:34.026 H245:8259dd0 Codec OnMiscellaneousCommand: videoFastUpdatePicture

0:34.026 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:34.027 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: command miscellaneousCommand

0:34.027 H245:8259dd0 Codecs H245 Miscellaneous Command :
videoTemporalSpatialTradeoff 29

0:34.028 H245:8259dd0 Codec OnVideoTemporalSpatialTradeoff()

0:34.028 H245:8259dd0 Codec OnMiscellaneousCommand:
videoTemporalSpatialTradeOff

0:34.029 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:34.043 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:34.043 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:34.216 LogChanTx:828b830 H323RTP Transmit start of talk burst: 240

0:34.243 LogChanRx:81e9730 Got 16bit PCM DTMF &#0;

0:34.553 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:34.554 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:34.601 LogChanRx:829fb50 RTP OnReceiverReport: ssrc=3786174224

0:34.601 LogChanRx:829fb50 RTP OnReceiverReport RR: ssrc=4193115180
fraction=0 lost=0 last_seq=47279 jitter=264 lsr=0.000 dlsr=0.000

0:34.602 LogChanRx:829fb50 RTP OnSourceDescription: ssrc=3786174224

item[0]: type=CNAME data="DFG"

item[1]: type=NAME data="DFG"

0:34.604 RTP Jitter:81ea858 RTP OnReceiverReport: ssrc=905823596

0:34.605 RTP Jitter:81ea858 RTP OnSourceDescription: ssrc=905823596

item[0]: type=CNAME data="DFG"

item[1]: type=NAME data="DFG"

0:34.801 LogChanRx:829fb50 RTP First data: ver=2 pt=H261 psz=1055 m=0 x=0
seq=20294 ts=84009240 src=3786174224 ccnt=0

0:34.802 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 84009240

0:34.802 LogChanRx:829fb50 H261 Detected loss of one video packet. 2 !=
20294 Will recover.

0:34.804 LogChanRx:829fb50 H245 Sending PDU: command miscellaneousCommand

0:34.806 LogChanRx:829fb50 H261 Lost or out of order packet, using values
from H261 header

0:34.810 LogChanRx:829fb50 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

0:35.053 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 84033540

0:35.063 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:35.063 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:35.217 LogChanTx:8264488 H323RTP Transmitter sent timestamp 18018

0:35.333 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 84057930

0:35.535 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Receiving PDU: releaseComplete

0:35.535 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Handling PDU: ReleaseComplete
callRef=26496

0:35.536 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Clearing connection
ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 reason=EndedByRemoteUser

0:35.537 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Call end reason for
ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 set to EndedByRemoteUser

0:35.537 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Sending release complete PDU:
callRef=26496

0:35.539 H225 Answer:82595c8 H245 Sending PDU: command endSessionCommand

0:35.540 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Sending PDU: releaseComplete

0:35.540 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Clearing connection
ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 reason=EndedByTransportFail

0:35.541 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Signal channel closed.

0:35.543 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

0:35.544 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 closing:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection

0:35.544 H323 Cleaner H323RTP Cleaning up RTP T-102

0:35.544 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 2, Shutting down write.

0:35.545 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaning up T-102

0:35.573 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:35.574 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:35.589 LogChanTx:8264488 RTP_UDP Session 2, Write shutdown.

0:35.589 LogChanTx:8264488 H323RTP Transmit H.261 thread ended

0:35.598 H323 Cleaner H323 Stopped sending logical channel: H.261-QCIF <6>

0:35.599 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaned up T-102

0:35.599 H323 Cleaner H323RTP Cleaning up RTP R-257

0:35.600 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 2, Shutting down read.

0:35.600 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaning up R-257

0:35.601 LogChanRx:829fb50 RTP_UDP Session 2, Read shutdown.

0:35.601 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receive H.261 thread ended

0:35.613 H323 Cleaner H323 Stopped receiving logical channel: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:35.613 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaned up R-257

0:35.614 H323 Cleaner H323RTP Cleaning up RTP R-258

0:35.614 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 1, Shutting down read.

0:35.615 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaning up R-258

0:35.615 RTP Jitter:81ea858 RTP_UDP Session 1, Read shutdown.

0:35.615 RTP Jitter:81ea858 RTP Jitter RTP receive thread ended

0:35.621 LogChanRx:81e9730 H323RTP Receive G.711-uLaw-64k thread ended

0:35.629 H245:8259dd0 H245 Read error:

0:35.629 H245:8259dd0 H323 Clearing connection ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496
reason=EndedByTransportFail

0:35.630 H245:8259dd0 H245 Control channel closed.

0:35.633 H323 Cleaner H323 Stopped receiving logical channel:
G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:35.633 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaned up R-258

0:35.634 H323 Cleaner H323RTP Cleaning up RTP T-101

0:35.634 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 1, Shutting down write.

0:35.634 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaning up T-101

0:35.658 LogChanTx:828b830 RTP_UDP Session 1, Write shutdown.

0:35.658 LogChanTx:828b830 H323RTP Transmit G.711-uLaw-64k thread ended

0:35.749 H323 Cleaner H323 Stopped sending logical channel:
G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:35.750 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaned up T-101

0:35.750 H323 Cleaner RTP Releasing session 2

0:35.751 H323 Cleaner H323 Bandwidth request: -240.0kb/s, available:
9392.0kb/s

0:35.752 H323 Cleaner RTP Releasing session 2

0:35.752 H323 Cleaner RTP Deleting session 2

0:35.752 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 2, Shutting down read.

0:35.753 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 2, Shutting down write.

0:35.754 H323 Cleaner RTP Final statistics:

packetsSent = 26

octetsSent = 21939

averageSendTime = 0

maximumSendTime = 0

minimumSendTime = 0

packetsReceived = 6

octetsReceived = 4391

packetsLost = 0

packetsTooLate = 0

packetsOutOfOrder = 0

averageReceiveTime= 0

maximumReceiveTime= 0

minimumReceiveTime= 0

jitter = 15

0:35.756 H323 Cleaner H323 Bandwidth request: -240.0kb/s, available:
9632.0kb/s

0:35.757 H323 Cleaner RTP Releasing session 1

0:35.757 H323 Cleaner H323 Bandwidth request: -64.0kb/s, available:
9872.0kb/s

0:35.758 H323 Cleaner RTP Releasing session 1

0:35.758 H323 Cleaner RTP Deleting session 1

0:35.759 H323 Cleaner RTP Removing jitter buffer

0:35.759 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 1, Shutting down read.

0:35.760 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 1, Shutting down write.

0:35.760 H323 Cleaner RTP Final statistics:

packetsSent = 48

octetsSent = 11520

averageSendTime = 0

maximumSendTime = 0

minimumSendTime = 0

packetsReceived = 0

octetsReceived = 0

packetsLost = 0

packetsTooLate = 0

packetsOutOfOrder = 0

averageReceiveTime= 0

maximumReceiveTime= 0

minimumReceiveTime= 0

jitter = 0

0:35.762 H323 Cleaner H323 Bandwidth request: -64.0kb/s, available:
9936.0kb/s

0:35.763 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close

0:36.625 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTermination for
H245:8259dd0

0:36.625 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close

0:36.626 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTermination for H225
Answer:82595c8

0:36.626 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 terminated.

0:37.647 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1

0:38.010 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLimits. 160x120 --
352x288

0:38.216 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLimits. 160x120 --
352x288

0:38.353 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeeded for
converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P

0:38.354 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLimits. 160x120 --
352x288

0:38.354 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

0:38.497 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

0:38.766 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>

0:38.766 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>

0:38.767 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15k{sw} <3>

0:38.767 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k{sw} <4>

0:38.767 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>

0:38.768 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>

0:38.768 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:38.769 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <8>

0:38.769 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:38.770 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>

0:38.771 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 deleted.

0:38.771 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

0:38.772 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

4:04.626 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

4:06.814 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

4:06.815 H323 Cleaner H323 Stopped cleaner thread

4:06.815 gnomemeeting H323 Cleaning up connections

4:06.816 gnomemeeting H323 Deleted endpoint.

---------------------------------------

Funny stuff is that when Gnomemeeting says communication ended by remote
user, the guy I was connected with said his Netmeeting didn't notice the
connection dropped. After about 5 minutes of him waiting to see if finally
Netmeeting realises connection broke, he gave up and closed the connection
himself.

Hope it helps.


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OK, 

I see potential problems in the log :

> 0:29.120 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Set remote application name: "Microsoft®
> NetMeeting® 2.11 181/21324"
> 
Try to use Netmeeting 3.01 at least. I think NM 2.00 will never work,
I'm not even sure it fully respects H.323

> 0:31.699 H245:8259dd0 H323 Selecting G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>
> 

Not a good codec in terms of bandwidth, your friend should install
MS-GSM for Netmeeting (see gnomemeeting.org for details).


> 0:33.969 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Sending open logical channel ACK: sessionID=1
> 
> /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
> 

That could be the source of the problems. The audio device can be opened
for recording, but not for playing what he sends you, in consequence,
the logical channel will be closed or will not be opened and Netmeeting
will clear the connection. You didn't mention me that detail in your
previous mails, but a popup should appear ;)

In clear words, either your soundcard is not full-duplex, or your driver
is not ALSA... Switch to ALSA, and I think it should work.

> 0:35.536 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Clearing connection
> ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 reason=EndedByRemoteUser
> 
> 0:35.537 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Call end reason for
> ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 set to EndedByRemoteUser
> 

> Funny stuff is that when Gnomemeeting says communication ended by remote
> user, the guy I was connected with said his Netmeeting didn't notice the
> connection dropped. After about 5 minutes of him waiting to see if finally
> Netmeeting realises connection broke, he gave up and closed the connection
> himself.

Funny the log indicates that Netmeeting sent a "Clearing" message and
dropped the connection just after.
-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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muahaha. cool. :) :) :)

We had same prob with Netmeeting 3.01 so that is why he downgraded (in hope
it would work).  I didn't bother to install the MS-GSM as it was a video
prob. He had it installed on 3.01 and still same probs. Now I will probably
ask him to install it again.

BTW, I see the log message (missed it before) and I still wonder why does it
happen only when he connects video... :/ Without him sending video we can
stay connected for as much as we want...

And I do have alsa installed. It is an onboard soundcard from the AC97
series. i.e.:
above snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0

I will try to disable the sound on board and install a new soundcard and see
if that helps. Maybe also upgrade alsa...
ALSA sound driver (version 0.9.0rc2)

Thx for the help. I will let you  know if things get better. :)

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> OK,
>
> I see potential problems in the log :
>
> > 0:29.120 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Set remote application name:
"Microsoft®
> > NetMeeting® 2.11 181/21324"
> >
> Try to use Netmeeting 3.01 at least. I think NM 2.00 will never work,
> I'm not even sure it fully respects H.323
>
> > 0:31.699 H245:8259dd0 H323 Selecting G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>
> >
>
> Not a good codec in terms of bandwidth, your friend should install
> MS-GSM for Netmeeting (see gnomemeeting.org for details).
>
>
> > 0:33.969 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Sending open logical channel ACK:
sessionID=1
> >
> > /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
> >
>
> That could be the source of the problems. The audio device can be opened
> for recording, but not for playing what he sends you, in consequence,
> the logical channel will be closed or will not be opened and Netmeeting
> will clear the connection. You didn't mention me that detail in your
> previous mails, but a popup should appear ;)
>
> In clear words, either your soundcard is not full-duplex, or your driver
> is not ALSA... Switch to ALSA, and I think it should work.
>
> > 0:35.536 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Clearing connection
> > ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 reason=EndedByRemoteUser
> >
> > 0:35.537 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Call end reason for
> > ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 set to EndedByRemoteUser
> >
>
> > Funny stuff is that when Gnomemeeting says communication ended by remote
> > user, the guy I was connected with said his Netmeeting didn't notice the
> > connection dropped. After about 5 minutes of him waiting to see if
finally
> > Netmeeting realises connection broke, he gave up and closed the
connection
> > himself.
>
> Funny the log indicates that Netmeeting sent a "Clearing" message and
> dropped the connection just after.
> --
> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
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oh... almost forgot... I have some other logs which don't have that
/device/sound/dsp device busy when connection breaks... Are you sure that's
the cause?
I am going to try changing the soundcard anyway as I don't have anything to
lose, but wanted to make sure I am on the right way... :)


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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 00:34, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> oh... almost forgot... I have some other logs which don't have that
> /device/sound/dsp device busy when connection breaks... Are you sure that's
> the cause?

No, we can't be sure.
I'm just sure that Netmeeting is the cause, unfortunately, and that
Netmeeting is not opensource, so there is not much we can do about it...

Perhaps try to start video from the beginning, not during the call, I'm
not sure GnomeMeeting deals correctly with that, I never tried. 

> I am going to try changing the soundcard anyway as I don't have anything to
> lose, but wanted to make sure I am on the right way... :)
> 
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We tried with video send enabled and it didn't help. The only thing which
appears in all logs before dropping the connection is:

0:34.801 LogChanRx:829fb50 RTP First data: ver=2 pt=H261 psz=1055 m=0 x=0
seq=20294 ts=84009240 src=3786174224 ccnt=0

0:34.802 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 84009240

0:34.802 LogChanRx:829fb50 H261 Detected loss of one video packet. 2 !=
20294 Will recover.

0:34.804 LogChanRx:829fb50 H245 Sending PDU: command miscellaneousCommand

0:34.806 LogChanRx:829fb50 H261 Lost or out of order packet, using values
from H261 header

0:34.810 LogChanRx:829fb50 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

0:35.053 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 84033540

0:35.063 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:35.063 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:35.217 LogChanTx:8264488 H323RTP Transmitter sent timestamp 18018

0:35.333 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 84057930

0:35.535 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Receiving PDU: releaseComplete

0:35.535 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Handling PDU: ReleaseComplete
callRef=26496

0:35.536 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Clearing connection
ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 reason=EndedByRemoteUser

0:35.537 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Call end reason for
ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 set to EndedByRemoteUser

------------------------ end of partial log 1 --------------

11:33.365 LogChanRx:82700b8 RTP First data: ver=2 pt=H261 psz=931 m=0 x=0
seq=34385 ts=44911890 src=1622867419 ccnt=0

11:33.366 LogChanRx:82700b8 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 44911890

11:33.366 LogChanRx:82700b8 H261 Detected loss of one video packet. 2 !=
34385 Will recover.

11:33.367 LogChanRx:82700b8 H245 Sending PDU: command miscellaneousCommand

11:33.369 LogChanRx:82700b8 H261 Lost or out of order packet, using values
from H261 header

11:33.397 LogChanRx:82700b8 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

11:33.423 LogChanTx:82c2b38 RTP Transmit statistics: packets=901
octets=216240 avgTime=30 maxTime=47 minTime=0

11:33.558 H225 Answer:82c0d78 H225 Receiving PDU: releaseComplete

11:33.560 H225 Answer:82c0d78 H225 Handling PDU: ReleaseComplete
callRef=11472

11:33.560 H225 Answer:82c0d78 H323 Clearing connection
ip$217.82.7.44:4588/11472 reason=EndedByRemoteUser

11:33.561 H225 Answer:82c0d78 H323 Call end reason for
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I am wondering what happens when video packets get lost... :/ What does
gnomemeeting do in such case?

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> Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 00:34, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> > oh... almost forgot... I have some other logs which don't have that
> > /device/sound/dsp device busy when connection breaks... Are you sure
that's
> > the cause?
>
> No, we can't be sure.
> I'm just sure that Netmeeting is the cause, unfortunately, and that
> Netmeeting is not opensource, so there is not much we can do about it...
>
> Perhaps try to start video from the beginning, not during the call, I'm
> not sure GnomeMeeting deals correctly with that, I never tried.
>
> > I am going to try changing the soundcard anyway as I don't have anything
to
> > lose, but wanted to make sure I am on the right way... :)
> >
> --
> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
>
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> 
> I am wondering what happens when video packets get lost... :/ What does
> gnomemeeting do in such case?

It tries to recover, but I can assure you it is not asking to the remote
to cut the connection.

Your problem is very weird, I also mailed Equivalence (the OpenH323
authors) about it, and they confirm it is weird, but can't really help
more than I am. Perhaps you could try with an XP machine on your LAN to
see if it happens. I personally only have Millenium on my laptop for
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Shucks... I don't have any XP machine (only Linux firewall, Win2k and
win98SE)... and he also tried with win98SE and same thing... :/ I will
also try again with the win98SE in my lan and move the camera to that
PC. Since connection dropping happens only when Netmeeting is sending
video I guess I can test without a camera on Gnomemeeting (I have only
one webcam).

Can it be that somehow Netmeeting waits for some aknowledgement of
received packet and "doesn't like" the answer it gets from Gnomemeeting
or doesn't fer any answer about the lost packet(s) and decides to close
the connection?

Is there any way I he can start Netmeeting with some debug info so we
can see what happens? Or is there any simple way to make a packetdump
on his PC and try to work it out from there? I say "simple" cause he
isn't programmer and he might have probs if procedure is too
complicated... Unfortunatelly he is about 300Km away from me and I
won't be able to go and see what the heck he is doing there for a
looooong time...

I saw that at least for Netmeeting 3.01 there is a SDK. I am a
programmer but it has been a long time since I used C/C++ and never
programed audio/video applications... Otherwise I would have tried to
look into the code myself and see if there is anything weird in
there... Is there anything in their SDK which could help trace the
prob?

BTW, where can I get the 0.95? Except CVS I didn't see any tarball or
such. Maybe I get better luck with 0.95... Where can I find a changelog
for 0.95 anyway?

Thx. for the help. If I can help in anyway you guys with the project
just let me know.

Damien Sandras schrieb:
> 
> > 
> > I am wondering what happens when video packets get
> lost... :/ What does
> > gnomemeeting do in such case?
> 
> It tries to recover, but I can assure you it is not
> asking to the remote
> to cut the connection.
> 
> Your problem is very weird, I also mailed Equivalence
> (the OpenH323
> authors) about it, and they confirm it is weird, but
> can't really help
> more than I am. Perhaps you could try with an XP machine
> on your LAN to
> see if it happens. I personally only have Millenium on my
> laptop for
> testing.
> -- 
> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
> 
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> I am wondering what happens when video packets get lost... :/ What does
> gnomemeeting do in such case?
> 

I was just thinking to that... Packets loss can not influence the
connection as you only loose packets on reception, not on emission.
I only see 3 possibilities:
- something in Netmeeting XP that prevents it to work with something
else than Netmeeting 
- packet loss from you to him
- firewall problem on his side


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BTW, I saw in the logs (if I interpreted that right) that he sent video
in format H.261 QCIF. Is there a special decoder for H.261? What
package contains that thing (maybe upgrading that package might help)?

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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 10:30, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> Shucks... I don't have any XP machine (only Linux firewall, Win2k and
> win98SE)... and he also tried with win98SE and same thing... :/ I will

It works perfectly for many users in 98 and 2000.


> 
> Can it be that somehow Netmeeting waits for some aknowledgement of
> received packet and "doesn't like" the answer it gets from Gnomemeeting
> or doesn't fer any answer about the lost packet(s) and decides to close
> the connection?
> 

No, not possible, both respect the H.323 protocol, Equivalence has
tested his library a lot and the library is far more conform to H.323
than Netmeeting. Moreover, I know many users who have used GnomeMeeting
with Netmeeting since the beginning without any problem.

> Is there any way I he can start Netmeeting with some debug info so we
> can see what happens? Or is there any simple way to make a packetdump

No, no way that I know, but it doesn't mean it is not possible.

> on his PC and try to work it out from there? I say "simple" cause he

All we can get are raw packets, not very useful. The only thing that
could be useful would be if Netmeeting was telling why it disconnects.

> isn't programmer and he might have probs if procedure is too
> complicated... Unfortunatelly he is about 300Km away from me and I
> won't be able to go and see what the heck he is doing there for a
> looooong time...
> 
> I saw that at least for Netmeeting 3.01 there is a SDK. I am a
> programmer but it has been a long time since I used C/C++ and never
> programed audio/video applications... Otherwise I would have tried to
> look into the code myself and see if there is anything weird in
> there... Is there anything in their SDK which could help trace the
> prob?
> 

I'm a Linux programmer and have no clue about the Netmeeting SDK.
If you really want to communicate with him and think that the problem is
related to Netmeeting and not to his configuration, you can always try
OpenPhone : http://www.openh323.org/code.html#windows

> BTW, where can I get the 0.95? Except CVS I didn't see any tarball or
> such. Maybe I get better luck with 0.95... Where can I find a changelog
> for 0.95 anyway?

in CVS, 0.95 is not released yet. We have binary packages for Redhat 8
and Debian SID. Mail me privately if you want the URL (we can't publish
it on the mailing list for bandwidth reasons).


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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 10:34, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> BTW, I saw in the logs (if I interpreted that right) that he sent video
> in format H.261 QCIF. Is there a special decoder for H.261? What
> package contains that thing (maybe upgrading that package might help)?

H.261 is code from VIC (university of Columbian iirc) and is included in
OpenH323. That code is of good quality and pretty old and tested.
QCIF is only the size. It means small size.

I have one idea though, but it is purely hypothetical:
- it does work only if he is not sending video, ie if he is not sending
much data. Couldn't it be possible that his DSL is of extremely bad
quality and reduces downloads a lot when there is much upload? If so,
some packets sent by GnomeMeeting could be dropped and Netmeeting could
think the connection is broken. I know it works for other Netmeeting
users, but they are using H.263 which is using less bandwidth than
H.261, we can't include it in GM for legal reasons.
Tell him to watch his bandwidth and to reduce video quality.

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Cool. I always wondered if there is such a freeware proggie for Win32
and couldn't find any. :) Thx.

BTW in case probs arise also with OpenPhone, is there at least a way
for this app to get some debug info?

Damien Sandras schrieb:
> Le jeu 19/12/2002 =E0 10:30, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de
> a =E9crit :
> > Shucks... I don't have any XP machine (only Linux
> firewall, Win2k and
> > win98SE)... and he also tried with win98SE and same
> thing... :/ I will
>=20
> It works perfectly for many users in 98 and 2000.
>=20
>=20
> >=20
> > Can it be that somehow Netmeeting waits for some
> aknowledgement of
> > received packet and "doesn't like" the answer it gets
> from Gnomemeeting
> > or doesn't fer any answer about the lost packet(s) and
> decides to close
> > the connection?
> >=20
>=20
> No, not possible, both respect the H.323 protocol,
> Equivalence has
> tested his library a lot and the library is far more
> conform to H.323
> than Netmeeting. Moreover, I know many users who have
> used GnomeMeeting
> with Netmeeting since the beginning without any problem.
>=20
> > Is there any way I he can start Netmeeting with some
> debug info so we
> > can see what happens? Or is there any simple way to
> make a packetdump
>=20
> No, no way that I know, but it doesn't mean it is not
> possible.
>=20
> > on his PC and try to work it out from there? I say
> "simple" cause he
>=20
> All we can get are raw packets, not very useful. The only
> thing that
> could be useful would be if Netmeeting was telling why it
> disconnects.
>=20
> > isn't programmer and he might have probs if procedure
> is too
> > complicated... Unfortunatelly he is about 300Km away
> from me and I
> > won't be able to go and see what the heck he is doing
> there for a
> > looooong time...
> >=20
> > I saw that at least for Netmeeting 3.01 there is a SDK.
> I am a
> > programmer but it has been a long time since I used
> C/C++ and never
> > programed audio/video applications... Otherwise I would
> have tried to
> > look into the code myself and see if there is anything
> weird in
> > there... Is there anything in their SDK which could
> help trace the
> > prob?
> >=20
>=20
> I'm a Linux programmer and have no clue about the
> Netmeeting SDK.
> If you really want to communicate with him and think that
> the problem is
> related to Netmeeting and not to his configuration, you
> can always try
> OpenPhone : http://www.openh323.org/code.html#windows
>=20
> > BTW, where can I get the 0.95? Except CVS I didn't see
> any tarball or
> > such. Maybe I get better luck with 0.95... Where can I
> find a changelog
> > for 0.95 anyway?
>=20
> in CVS, 0.95 is not released yet. We have binary packages
> for Redhat 8
> and Debian SID. Mail me privately if you want the URL (we
> can't publish
> it on the mailing list for bandwidth reasons).
>=20
>=20
> --=20
>  _	Damien Sandras
> (o-	GnomeMeeting: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
> //\	FOSDEM 2003:  http://www.fosdem.org
> v_/_=09
> 	H.323 phone:=20
> callto://ils.seconix.com/dsandras@seconix.com
>=20
>=20
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> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
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OK. I asked him to reduce the quality yesterday and he said he had no
clue how to do that after fondling with it for about 10 minutes.:)I
will try to see if I can figure it out and help him on that one. :)

Anyway, you might be right with the compression and bandwidth. So what
can I do to make gnomemeeting use H.263? Is there any way to install
such a codec on my linux machine and tell gnomemeeting to use it?

And if I install it, how can we make sure our communication goes over
H.263.


Damien Sandras schrieb:
> Le jeu 19/12/2002 =E0 10:34, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de
> a =E9crit :
> > BTW, I saw in the logs (if I interpreted that right)
> that he sent video
> > in format H.261 QCIF. Is there a special decoder for
> H.261? What
> > package contains that thing (maybe upgrading that
> package might help)?
>=20
> H.261 is code from VIC (university of Columbian iirc) and
> is included in
> OpenH323. That code is of good quality and pretty old and
> tested.
> QCIF is only the size. It means small size.
>=20
> I have one idea though, but it is purely hypothetical:
> - it does work only if he is not sending video, ie if he
> is not sending
> much data. Couldn't it be possible that his DSL is of
> extremely bad
> quality and reduces downloads a lot when there is much
> upload? If so,
> some packets sent by GnomeMeeting could be dropped and
> Netmeeting could
> think the connection is broken. I know it works for other
> Netmeeting
> users, but they are using H.263 which is using less
> bandwidth than
> H.261, we can't include it in GM for legal reasons.
> Tell him to watch his bandwidth and to reduce video
> quality.
>=20
> --=20
>  _	Damien Sandras
> (o-	GnomeMeeting: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
> //\	FOSDEM 2003:  http://www.fosdem.org
> v_/_=09
> 	H.323 phone:=20
> callto://ils.seconix.com/dsandras@seconix.com
>=20
>=20
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 10:44, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> Cool. I always wondered if there is such a freeware proggie for Win32
> and couldn't find any. :) Thx.
> 
> BTW in case probs arise also with OpenPhone, is there at least a way
> for this app to get some debug info?
> 

Yes, the same debug as with GnomeMeeting.
GnomeMeeting should be ported to windows too in the beginning of next
year (in 2003).
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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 10:48, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> OK. I asked him to reduce the quality yesterday and he said he had no
> clue how to do that after fondling with it for about 10 minutes.:)I
> will try to see if I can figure it out and help him on that one. :)
> 
> Anyway, you might be right with the compression and bandwidth. So what
> can I do to make gnomemeeting use H.263? Is there any way to install
> such a codec on my linux machine and tell gnomemeeting to use it?
> 
> And if I install it, how can we make sure our communication goes over
> H.263.
> 

No, I told you there were legal reasons why we can't add H.263 into
GnomeMeeting. 

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Argh... which starts me thinking about his MTU... Hmmm... We have a DSL
connection monitor from our provider so I will ask him to open it
during the connection and see upload and download rates.

Damien Sandras schrieb:
> I have one idea though, but it is purely hypothetical:
> - it does work only if he is not sending video, ie if he
> is not sending
> much data. Couldn't it be possible that his DSL is of
> extremely bad
> quality and reduces downloads a lot when there is much
> upload? If so,
> some packets sent by GnomeMeeting could be dropped and
> Netmeeting could
> think the connection is broken. I know it works for other
> Netmeeting
> users, but they are using H.263 which is using less
> bandwidth than
> H.261, we can't include it in GM for legal reasons.
> Tell him to watch his bandwidth and to reduce video
> quality.
> 
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He he. :)

I understood that, but you could make gnomemeeting be able to use
external codecs ( selected from options for ex.) and maybe someone
(thirdparty) would develop such a codec for linux. O:)

> No, I told you there were legal reasons why we can't add
> H.263 into
> GnomeMeeting. 
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adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de wrote:

>OK. I asked him to reduce the quality yesterday and he said he had no
>clue how to do that after fondling with it for about 10 minutes.:)I
>will try to see if I can figure it out and help him on that one. :)
>  
>

Adrien,

If you want to do some testing with other Netmeeting client ( other then
your friend's ) you can drop me an e-mail and I'll give you my ICQ number
(I hope you use it, if not, I'll tell you a way to use it without 
installing a client),
and you can call me and test all you need .
I'm used to work with netmeeting and I use it a lot with my brother ( 
from Portugal
to Netherlands - Cable to ADSL ).
I use W2K Professional on Cable and a Vigor Router .

Happy season Greetings to all !

João Pedro

jpedro.vf@netcabo.pt



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Sorry to be persistant :) , but...=20
A quick search revealed the following:

XAnim seems to be having/using the H.263 codec.

http://xanim.va.pubnix.com/xa_copylic.html

And there is one more decoder:

http://www-mobile.ecs.soton.ac.uk/peter/robust-h263/robust.html

If I install any of the above do I also get a codec installed? And if
so, is there any way to tell Gnomemeeting to use it (in config files or
such)?

Damien Sandras schrieb:
> Le jeu 19/12/2002 =E0 10:48, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de
> a =E9crit :
> > OK. I asked him to reduce the quality yesterday and he
> said he had no
> > clue how to do that after fondling with it for about 10
> minutes.:)I
> > will try to see if I can figure it out and help him on
> that one. :)
> >=20
> > Anyway, you might be right with the compression and
> bandwidth. So what
> > can I do to make gnomemeeting use H.263? Is there any
> way to install
> > such a codec on my linux machine and tell gnomemeeting
> to use it?
> >=20
> > And if I install it, how can we make sure our
> communication goes over
> > H.263.
> >=20
>=20
> No, I told you there were legal reasons why we can't add
> H.263 into
> GnomeMeeting.=20
>=20
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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 11:41, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> Sorry to be persistant :) , but... 
> A quick search revealed the following:
> 
> XAnim seems to be having/using the H.263 codec.
> 
> http://xanim.va.pubnix.com/xa_copylic.html
> 
> And there is one more decoder:
> 
> http://www-mobile.ecs.soton.ac.uk/peter/robust-h263/robust.html
> 
> If I install any of the above do I also get a codec installed? And if
> so, is there any way to tell Gnomemeeting to use it (in config files or
> such)?

You can code it in OpenH323. There is no magic like you seem to believe
it...


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Thx. That might prove usefull as my friend tends to lose his patience
prety quick when we test and gives up. So I cannot test all the
possible things. :)

I will contact you as soon as he gives up testing again. :)

And BTW I don't have ICQ.

Jo=E3o Pedro schrieb:
> adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de wrote:
>=20
> >OK. I asked him to reduce the quality yesterday and he
> said he had no
> >clue how to do that after fondling with it for about 10
> minutes.:)I
> >will try to see if I can figure it out and help him on
> that one. :)
> > =20
> >
>=20
> Adrien,
>=20
> If you want to do some testing with other Netmeeting
> client ( other then
> your friend's ) you can drop me an e-mail and I'll give
> you my ICQ number
> (I hope you use it, if not, I'll tell you a way to use it
> without=20
> installing a client),
> and you can call me and test all you need .
> I'm used to work with netmeeting and I use it a lot with
> my brother (=20
> from Portugal
> to Netherlands - Cable to ADSL ).
> I use W2K Professional on Cable and a Vigor Router .
>=20
> Happy season Greetings to all !
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> Jo=E3o Pedro
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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 11:52, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> Thx. That might prove usefull as my friend tends to lose his patience
> prety quick when we test and gives up. So I cannot test all the
> possible things. :)
> 
> I will contact you as soon as he gives up testing again. :)
> 
> And BTW I don't have ICQ.
> 

I think that even if your friend doesn't loose his patience, it is a
very good test that you have to do because it will permit to determine
if :
- the problem is on your side (it doesn't work with Joao either)
- the problem is on his side (it does work with Joao)

Don't be shy ;)
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I guess you are right. Anyway, I will try to conduct first some local
tests again this afternoon when I get home from work. I updated almost
all the packages I could find in newer version related to this problem
for my distribution (alsa, pwlib, xpm, etc) so I wanna see if it still
works at least local after all this. :D

I already bought some cheap duplex souncard (which I know is supported
by my distro) to try if all else fails and another networkcard for my
win2k PC to see if a win32<->win32 connection works. Now I just hope I
don't have to also buy another webcam to be able to fully test. :) BTW,
is there a list of cams which have support included in the kernel
(2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to buy
another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)

And you just gave me an idea with your previous email. I found some
other linux proggies which use H.263. If I get depresive enough about
it I might look into their sources and try to copy the code to
Gnomemeeting and see if it works. That is if I remember the needed
stuff from the time I coded C/C++. :D

BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)

Damien Sandras schrieb:
> Le jeu 19/12/2002 =E0 11:52, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de
> a =E9crit :
> > Thx. That might prove usefull as my friend tends to
> lose his patience
> > prety quick when we test and gives up. So I cannot test
> all the
> > possible things. :)
> >=20
> > I will contact you as soon as he gives up testing
> again. :)
> >=20
> > And BTW I don't have ICQ.
> >=20
>=20
> I think that even if your friend doesn't loose his
> patience, it is a
> very good test that you have to do because it will permit
> to determine
> if :
> - the problem is on your side (it doesn't work with Joao
> either)
> - the problem is on his side (it does work with Joao)
>=20
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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 12:11, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :

> (2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to buy
> another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)
> 

Philips-chipset based cameras (Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000, Philips
ToUCAM Pro) are the best: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/


> 
> BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)
> 

In a few months if everything goes well, I'm not doing the port myself
as I don't like window$ ;)



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Hi,

On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de wrote:

> Thx. That might prove usefull as my friend tends to lose his patience
> prety quick when we test and gives up. So I cannot test all the

use vnc to control his computer :-) and do tests


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lol. try to vnc on 2 ADSL conenction with 128Kb/s upload a piece and
let me know if you have any bandwidth left for videoconferencing. :D

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> 
> On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de
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> > Thx. That might prove usefull as my friend tends to
> lose his patience
> > prety quick when we test and gives up. So I cannot test
> all the
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> use vnc to control his computer :-) and do tests
> 
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Hi,

On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de wrote:

> lol. try to vnc on 2 ADSL conenction with 128Kb/s upload a piece and
> let me know if you have any bandwidth left for videoconferencing. :D

yes, I know because I have test it :-)

but to do the test is enough :-)

try with openphone from windows, I think it is a good software

good luck


>
> Carles Pina i Estany schrieb:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thx. That might prove usefull as my friend tends to
> > lose his patience
> > > prety quick when we test and gives up. So I cannot test
> > all the
> >
> > use vnc to control his computer :-) and do tests
> >
> >
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OK. I am trying to cotact Joao for the testing. In the meantime I tried to
connect to some random peeps which have netmeeting and got this in the debug
output:

-------------------
8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <10>

8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 RFC2833 Handler created

8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Created new connection: ip$local

host/7266

8:07.901 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Started call thread

8:08.149 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323TCP Started connection: host=24.50.

147.246:1503, if=80.134.254.176:30005, handle=31

8:08.150 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending Setup PDU

8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Check for Fast start by local en

dpoint

8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H245 Default OnSelectLogicalChannels,

FastStartDisabled

8:08.152 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: setup

8:08.153 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Reading PDUs: callRef=7266

8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Read error (104): Connection res

et by peer

8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost

/7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail

8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Call end reason for ip$localhost

/7266 set to EndedByTransportFail

8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending release complete PDU: ca

llRef=7266

8:08.412 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: releaseComplete

8:08.413 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Write PDU failed (32): Broken pi

pe

8:08.414 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost

/7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail

8:08.414 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 clo

sing: connectionState=AwaitingSignalConnect

8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close

8:08.416 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTerminat

ion for H225 Caller:82695d8

8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 H323Transport::Close

8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Signal channel closed.

8:08.433 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 ter

minated.

8:09.544 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1

8:09.894 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim

its. 160x120 -- 352x288

8:10.097 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim

its. 160x120 -- 352x288

8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeed

ed for converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P

8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim its. 160x120 --
352x288

8:10.239 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

8:10.385 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

8:10.594 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>

8:10.600 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>

8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15 k{sw} <3>

8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k {sw} <4>

8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>

8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>

8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k {sw} <7>

8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k {sw} <8>

8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>

8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 del eted.

8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

-------------------

what the heck is the localhost doing in there?!? except upgrading all
libraries and recompiling the kernel to suit my camera requirements I didn't
change anything. :/

----- Original Message -----
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> Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 12:11, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
>
> > (2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to buy
> > another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)
> >
>
> Philips-chipset based cameras (Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000, Philips
> ToUCAM Pro) are the best: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
>
>
> >
> > BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)
> >
>
> In a few months if everything goes well, I'm not doing the port myself
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Hi,
 I have no idea why sending video causes the windows XP machine to 
quit the call.

My first thought, are there any uses of GM who have been able to talk 
video and audio to a win XP machine?

However, reading the log provides some clues.

You can try changing the h261codec.cxx file so the h261 codec does not
send a miscellaneous command on detecting the loss of one video packet.


        PTRACE(3,"H261\tDetected loss of one video packet. "
          << lastSequenceNumber << " != "
          << frame.GetSequenceNumber() << " Will recover.");
        lastSequenceNumber = frame.GetSequenceNumber();
/***/   SendMiscCommand(H245_MiscellaneousCommand_type::e_lostPartialPicture);

Thus, 
 remove the line marked /****/

Recompile, and try it.

Thanks,
 Derek.



On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:

> OK. I am trying to cotact Joao for the testing. In the meantime I tried to
> connect to some random peeps which have netmeeting and got this in the debug
> output:
> 
> -------------------
> 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> 
> 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 RFC2833 Handler created
> 
> 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Created new connection: ip$local
> 
> host/7266
> 
> 8:07.901 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Started call thread
> 
> 8:08.149 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323TCP Started connection: host=24.50.
> 
> 147.246:1503, if=80.134.254.176:30005, handle=31
> 
> 8:08.150 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending Setup PDU
> 
> 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Check for Fast start by local en
> 
> dpoint
> 
> 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H245 Default OnSelectLogicalChannels,
> 
> FastStartDisabled
> 
> 8:08.152 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: setup
> 
> 8:08.153 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Reading PDUs: callRef=7266
> 
> 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Read error (104): Connection res
> 
> et by peer
> 
> 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> 
> /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> 
> 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Call end reason for ip$localhost
> 
> /7266 set to EndedByTransportFail
> 
> 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending release complete PDU: ca
> 
> llRef=7266
> 
> 8:08.412 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: releaseComplete
> 
> 8:08.413 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Write PDU failed (32): Broken pi
> 
> pe
> 
> 8:08.414 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> 
> /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> 
> 8:08.414 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> 
> 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 clo
> 
> sing: connectionState=AwaitingSignalConnect
> 
> 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close
> 
> 8:08.416 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTerminat
> 
> ion for H225 Caller:82695d8
> 
> 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 H323Transport::Close
> 
> 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Signal channel closed.
> 
> 8:08.433 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 ter
> 
> minated.
> 
> 8:09.544 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1
> 
> 8:09.894 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> 
> its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> 
> 8:10.097 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> 
> its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> 
> 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeed
> 
> ed for converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P
> 
> 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim its. 160x120 --
> 352x288
> 
> 8:10.239 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> 
> 8:10.385 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> 
> 8:10.594 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>
> 
> 8:10.600 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>
> 
> 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15 k{sw} <3>
> 
> 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k {sw} <4>
> 
> 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>
> 
> 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>
> 
> 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k {sw} <7>
> 
> 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k {sw} <8>
> 
> 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>
> 
> 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> 
> 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 del eted.
> 
> 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> 
> -------------------
> 
> what the heck is the localhost doing in there?!? except upgrading all
> libraries and recompiling the kernel to suit my camera requirements I didn't
> change anything. :/
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
> To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem
> 
> 
> > Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 12:11, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> >
> > > (2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to buy
> > > another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)
> > >
> >
> > Philips-chipset based cameras (Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000, Philips
> > ToUCAM Pro) are the best: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
> >
> >
> > >
> > > BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)
> > >
> >
> > In a few months if everything goes well, I'm not doing the port myself
> > as I don't like window$ ;)
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >  _ Damien Sandras
> > (o- GnomeMeeting: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
> > //\ FOSDEM 2003:  http://www.fosdem.org
> > v_/_
> > H.323 phone:  callto://ils.seconix.com/dsandras@seconix.com
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
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> 

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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 21:22, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> OK. I am trying to cotact Joao for the testing. In the meantime I tried to
> connect to some random peeps which have netmeeting and got this in the debug
> output:
> 

Do you mean that it failed with Joao ?
The log indicates "Connection reset by peer".
I wonder if your connection setup is correct, same for firewall rules.
I have no more clue about your problem and I think that you will have to
investigate for yourself. There is nothing more I can do, unfortunately,
for your problem remotely.
That log doesn't help, it says "Ended by transport fail", which is the
same kind of error as when you try to connect a down host.



> -------------------
> 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> 
> 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 RFC2833 Handler created
> 
> 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Created new connection: ip$local
> 
> host/7266
> 
> 8:07.901 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Started call thread
> 
> 8:08.149 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323TCP Started connection: host=24.50.
> 
> 147.246:1503, if=80.134.254.176:30005, handle=31
> 
> 8:08.150 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending Setup PDU
> 
> 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Check for Fast start by local en
> 
> dpoint
> 
> 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H245 Default OnSelectLogicalChannels,
> 
> FastStartDisabled
> 
> 8:08.152 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: setup
> 
> 8:08.153 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Reading PDUs: callRef=7266
> 
> 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Read error (104): Connection res
> 
> et by peer
> 
> 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> 
> /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> 
> 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Call end reason for ip$localhost
> 
> /7266 set to EndedByTransportFail
> 
> 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending release complete PDU: ca
> 
> llRef=7266
> 
> 8:08.412 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: releaseComplete
> 
> 8:08.413 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Write PDU failed (32): Broken pi
> 
> pe
> 
> 8:08.414 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> 
> /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> 
> 8:08.414 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> 
> 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 clo
> 
> sing: connectionState=AwaitingSignalConnect
> 
> 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close
> 
> 8:08.416 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTerminat
> 
> ion for H225 Caller:82695d8
> 
> 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 H323Transport::Close
> 
> 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Signal channel closed.
> 
> 8:08.433 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 ter
> 
> minated.
> 
> 8:09.544 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1
> 
> 8:09.894 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> 
> its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> 
> 8:10.097 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> 
> its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> 
> 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeed
> 
> ed for converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P
> 
> 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim its. 160x120 --
> 352x288
> 
> 8:10.239 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> 
> 8:10.385 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> 
> 8:10.594 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>
> 
> 8:10.600 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>
> 
> 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15 k{sw} <3>
> 
> 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k {sw} <4>
> 
> 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>
> 
> 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>
> 
> 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k {sw} <7>
> 
> 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k {sw} <8>
> 
> 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>
> 
> 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> 
> 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 del eted.
> 
> 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> 
> -------------------
> 
> what the heck is the localhost doing in there?!? except upgrading all
> libraries and recompiling the kernel to suit my camera requirements I didn't
> change anything. :/
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
> To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem
> 
> 
> > Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 12:11, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> >
> > > (2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to buy
> > > another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)
> > >
> >
> > Philips-chipset based cameras (Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000, Philips
> > ToUCAM Pro) are the best: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
> >
> >
> > >
> > > BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)
> > >
> >
> > In a few months if everything goes well, I'm not doing the port myself
> > as I don't like window$ ;)
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >  _ Damien Sandras
> > (o- GnomeMeeting: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
> > //\ FOSDEM 2003:  http://www.fosdem.org
> > v_/_
> > H.323 phone:  callto://ils.seconix.com/dsandras@seconix.com
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
> _______________________________________________
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No it didn't fail with Joao as he didn't show up yet. And I was trying to
connect to random peeps from seconix server to see if I can do some testing.
:) I was just wondering why does it appear to try connecting to localhost.

Thx for your patience with me again. :)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem


> Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 21:22, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> > OK. I am trying to cotact Joao for the testing. In the meantime I tried
to
> > connect to some random peeps which have netmeeting and got this in the
debug
> > output:
> >
>
> Do you mean that it failed with Joao ?
> The log indicates "Connection reset by peer".
> I wonder if your connection setup is correct, same for firewall rules.
> I have no more clue about your problem and I think that you will have to
> investigate for yourself. There is nothing more I can do, unfortunately,
> for your problem remotely.
> That log doesn't help, it says "Ended by transport fail", which is the
> same kind of error as when you try to connect a down host.
>
>
>
> > -------------------
> > 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> >
> > 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 RFC2833 Handler created
> >
> > 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Created new connection: ip$local
> >
> > host/7266
> >
> > 8:07.901 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Started call thread
> >
> > 8:08.149 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323TCP Started connection: host=24.50.
> >
> > 147.246:1503, if=80.134.254.176:30005, handle=31
> >
> > 8:08.150 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending Setup PDU
> >
> > 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Check for Fast start by local en
> >
> > dpoint
> >
> > 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H245 Default OnSelectLogicalChannels,
> >
> > FastStartDisabled
> >
> > 8:08.152 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: setup
> >
> > 8:08.153 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Reading PDUs: callRef=7266
> >
> > 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Read error (104): Connection res
> >
> > et by peer
> >
> > 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> >
> > /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> >
> > 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Call end reason for ip$localhost
> >
> > /7266 set to EndedByTransportFail
> >
> > 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending release complete PDU: ca
> >
> > llRef=7266
> >
> > 8:08.412 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: releaseComplete
> >
> > 8:08.413 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Write PDU failed (32): Broken pi
> >
> > pe
> >
> > 8:08.414 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> >
> > /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> >
> > 8:08.414 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> >
> > 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 clo
> >
> > sing: connectionState=AwaitingSignalConnect
> >
> > 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close
> >
> > 8:08.416 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTerminat
> >
> > ion for H225 Caller:82695d8
> >
> > 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 H323Transport::Close
> >
> > 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Signal channel closed.
> >
> > 8:08.433 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 ter
> >
> > minated.
> >
> > 8:09.544 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1
> >
> > 8:09.894 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> >
> > its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> >
> > 8:10.097 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> >
> > its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> >
> > 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeed
> >
> > ed for converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P
> >
> > 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim its. 160x120 --
> > 352x288
> >
> > 8:10.239 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> >
> > 8:10.385 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> >
> > 8:10.594 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>
> >
> > 8:10.600 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>
> >
> > 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15 k{sw} <3>
> >
> > 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k {sw} <4>
> >
> > 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>
> >
> > 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>
> >
> > 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k {sw} <7>
> >
> > 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k {sw} <8>
> >
> > 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>
> >
> > 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> >
> > 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 del eted.
> >
> > 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> >
> > -------------------
> >
> > what the heck is the localhost doing in there?!? except upgrading all
> > libraries and recompiling the kernel to suit my camera requirements I
didn't
> > change anything. :/
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
> > To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem
> >
> >
> > > Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 12:11, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> > >
> > > > (2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to
buy
> > > > another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)
> > > >
> > >
> > > Philips-chipset based cameras (Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000, Philips
> > > ToUCAM Pro) are the best: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)
> > > >
> > >
> > > In a few months if everything goes well, I'm not doing the port myself
> > > as I don't like window$ ;)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >  _ Damien Sandras
> > > (o- GnomeMeeting: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
> > > //\ FOSDEM 2003:  http://www.fosdem.org
> > > v_/_
> > > H.323 phone:  callto://ils.seconix.com/dsandras@seconix.com
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> >
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From dsandras@seconix.com  Thu Dec 19 18:46:08 2002
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Le ven 20/12/2002 à 00:38, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> No it didn't fail with Joao as he didn't show up yet. And I was trying to
> connect to random peeps from seconix server to see if I can do some testing.
> :) I was just wondering why does it appear to try connecting to localhost.
> 
> Thx for your patience with me again. :)
> 

Bad idea, many people on seconix are there with broken setups.

It is not trying to contact localhost, localhost is your machine, and
ip$localhost means 'local connection'.

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Joao do you read your emails? I am trying to contact you for some testing.

Or if anyone else wants to help test... But please someone who has
Netmeeting and succesfully connected with it in the past to a gnomemeeting.

Thx. in advance for the help.

----- Original Message -----
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> adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de wrote:
>
> >OK. I asked him to reduce the quality yesterday and he said he had no
> >clue how to do that after fondling with it for about 10 minutes.:)I
> >will try to see if I can figure it out and help him on that one. :)
> >
> >
>
> Adrien,
>
> If you want to do some testing with other Netmeeting client ( other then
> your friend's ) you can drop me an e-mail and I'll give you my ICQ number
> (I hope you use it, if not, I'll tell you a way to use it without
> installing a client),
> and you can call me and test all you need .
> I'm used to work with netmeeting and I use it a lot with my brother (
> from Portugal
> to Netherlands - Cable to ADSL ).
> I use W2K Professional on Cable and a Vigor Router .
>
> Happy season Greetings to all !
>
> João Pedro
>
> jpedro.vf@netcabo.pt
>
>
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From Pradeep.Kumar@med.ge.com  Fri Dec 20 14:52:39 2002
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Hi,
I want to use Gnomemeeting on my Red Hat 8.0 linux machine. I am
integrating my linux desktop
with the Windows Domain. So I have some doubts regarding this.

What are the features available with Gnomemeeting?
Can we do everything with Gnomemeeting, whatever we can do with MS
NetMeeting?
Is Whiteboard Sharing, File Trasfer, Application sharing possible with
Gnomemeeting?
Are there any problems with gnomemeeting in communicating with
NetMeeting Users?
What are the features that gnomemeeting lacks in comparison with
NetMeeting?


I would appreciate any sort of help on this. 

Thanks in advance for your help,

Regards,
S.Pradeep Kumar


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Le ven 20/12/2002 à 20:52, Kumar, Pradeep (MED, TCS) a écrit :
> Hi,
> I want to use Gnomemeeting on my Red Hat 8.0 linux machine. I am
> integrating my linux desktop
> with the Windows Domain. So I have some doubts regarding this.
> 
> What are the features available with Gnomemeeting?
> Can we do everything with Gnomemeeting, whatever we can do with MS
> NetMeeting?
> Is Whiteboard Sharing, File Trasfer, Application sharing possible with
> Gnomemeeting?
> Are there any problems with gnomemeeting in communicating with
> NetMeeting Users?
> What are the features that gnomemeeting lacks in comparison with
> NetMeeting?
> 
> 
> I would appreciate any sort of help on this. 
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help,
> 
> Regards,
> S.Pradeep Kumar

Did you by chance have a look at the faq?

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hi
I have gone through the mailing list archives.
But I still have most of my doubts cleared.

Thanks and Regards
Pradeep

-----Original Message-----
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Le ven 20/12/2002 =E0 20:52, Kumar, Pradeep (MED, TCS) a =E9crit :
> Hi,
> I want to use Gnomemeeting on my Red Hat 8.0 linux machine. I am
> integrating my linux desktop
> with the Windows Domain. So I have some doubts regarding this.
>=20
> What are the features available with Gnomemeeting?
> Can we do everything with Gnomemeeting, whatever we can do with MS
> NetMeeting?
> Is Whiteboard Sharing, File Trasfer, Application sharing possible =
with
> Gnomemeeting?
> Are there any problems with gnomemeeting in communicating with
> NetMeeting Users?
> What are the features that gnomemeeting lacks in comparison with
> NetMeeting?
>=20
>=20
> I would appreciate any sort of help on this.=20
>=20
> Thanks in advance for your help,
>=20
> Regards,
> S.Pradeep Kumar

Did you by chance have a look at the faq?

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From dsandras@seconix.com  Fri Dec 20 15:54:17 2002
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In a few words:

- There is no T.120 in GnomeMeeting (application sharing, file
transfert)
- There should be no problem communicating with M$ users and most users
have no problem

For a detailed list of features that GnomeMeeting has and not
Netmeeting, or that Netmeeting has and not GnomeMeeting, you will have
to read the FAQ and try yourself and perhaps contribute back a document
about that. That is the power of OpenSource.

Le ven 20/12/2002 à 20:57, Kumar, Pradeep (MED, TCS) a écrit :
> hi
> I have gone through the mailing list archives.
> But I still have most of my doubts cleared.
> 
> Thanks and Regards
> Pradeep
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PUYDT Julien [mailto:julien.puydt@laposte.net]
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:55 PM
> To: 'gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org'
> Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Windows NetMeeting Vs Gnomemeeting
> 
> 
> Le ven 20/12/2002 à 20:52, Kumar, Pradeep (MED, TCS) a écrit :
> > Hi,
> > I want to use Gnomemeeting on my Red Hat 8.0 linux machine. I am
> > integrating my linux desktop
> > with the Windows Domain. So I have some doubts regarding this.
> > 
> > What are the features available with Gnomemeeting?
> > Can we do everything with Gnomemeeting, whatever we can do with MS
> > NetMeeting?
> > Is Whiteboard Sharing, File Trasfer, Application sharing possible with
> > Gnomemeeting?
> > Are there any problems with gnomemeeting in communicating with
> > NetMeeting Users?
> > What are the features that gnomemeeting lacks in comparison with
> > NetMeeting?
> > 
> > 
> > I would appreciate any sort of help on this. 
> > 
> > Thanks in advance for your help,
> > 
> > Regards,
> > S.Pradeep Kumar
> 
> Did you by chance have a look at the faq?
> 
> Snark on #gnomemeeting
> 
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Hi List !

I'm not a network/firewall expert, so i forward here...

Matti

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Subject: GM 0.94 firewall security issues..
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:07:47 -0500
From: AG <agreen@bkaeg.org>
To: matthias@marksweb.de

Matti:

I noticed that GM FAQ doesn't explicityl list an IP address origin for
all GM/ILS server connections..

IOW, it appears that you just 'blindly' open the required ports ->
TCP ports 1720 and 30000-30010
UDP pors 5000:5003

I would like to setup some ipchains rules and I need to be sure that I
can verify traffic coming into those ports..

I'm old school and paranoid ;)

AG
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Hi matti,

there are some points I don't understand.
> 
> I noticed that GM FAQ doesn't explicityl list an IP address origin for
> all GM/ILS server connections..

How should it be possible to define all possible IP addresses? Which one
does he mean?

> 
> IOW, it appears that you just 'blindly' open the required ports ->
> TCP ports 1720 and 30000-30010
> UDP pors 5000:5003
> 
> I would like to setup some ipchains rules and I need to be sure that I
> can verify traffic coming into those ports..

That really depends on his needings. With ipchains you can check the
packets for many aspects (source ip, destination ip and so on..), thus
we have to know what he wants to allow/reject.
He can verify packets, but how this works depends on his configuration.
We need more information!

> 
> I'm old school and paranoid ;)
> 
> AG
> "What you read today, will free you tomorrow" - ME
> http://bkaeg.org
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Hello, ...

I have a few questions about the docklet thingy.

I asked about it on the irc channel and matti sugested i ask about it
here.

Anyway, i am running gnomemeeting 0.94.1 on a debian/sid box, using
gnome 2. I was lead to believe that the docklet thingy would somehow
'dock' gnomemeeting in one of my panels or something such, especially
usefull if you run GM hidden. But when i toggle the docklet item in the
view entry, nothing special seem to happen. I don't see any changes on
both of my gnome 2 panels, so i guess the docklet doesn't work on
gnome2, right ?

Friendly,

Sven Luther

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Le sam 21/12/2002 à 23:17, Sven Luther a écrit :
> Anyway, i am running gnomemeeting 0.94.1 on a debian/sid box, using
> gnome 2. I was lead to believe that the docklet thingy would somehow
> 'dock' gnomemeeting in one of my panels or something such, especially
> usefull if you run GM hidden. But when i toggle the docklet item in the
> view entry, nothing special seem to happen. I don't see any changes on
> both of my gnome 2 panels, so i guess the docklet doesn't work on
> gnome2, right ?

Wrong ;)
Check :
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101791
You need to install the system_tray_applet in your panel, and that applet will dock 
the new docklet (called now "Status Icon" in the "Notification Area").

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Hi,

I've looked through the archives and can't see anyone else having this=20
problem.  I hope you can help.

I have installed Gnomemeeting 0.94.1 on a freshly installed Mandrake 9 li=
nux=20
machine. =20
I have a Trust SpaceC@m 300XS that is correctly recognised on the USB bus=
 and=20
the hotplug scripts appear to be doing their job ok. =20

Gnomemeeting displays local video on the first launch of the application,=
 but=20
when you have closed it and you re-launch it, I get no local video.  =20
Additionally, I can't actually close the application - it de-registers fr=
om=20
the ILS, but doesn't close properly.

Any help on this would be much appreciated.  I just bought my Dad a webca=
m for=20
Christmas and hoped we would be able to video-conference!

Thanks in advance,

Andrew

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Le dim 22/12/2002 à 19:31, Andrew Mulheirn a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I've looked through the archives and can't see anyone else having this 
> problem.  I hope you can help.
> 
> I have installed Gnomemeeting 0.94.1 on a freshly installed Mandrake 9 linux 
> machine.  
> I have a Trust SpaceC@m 300XS that is correctly recognised on the USB bus and 
> the hotplug scripts appear to be doing their job ok.  
> 
> Gnomemeeting displays local video on the first launch of the application, but 
> when you have closed it and you re-launch it, I get no local video.   

What do you get? An error?
Try to kill ESD. Mandrake has a bug that makes ESD spawn and ESD is
trying to open the video device.

You can also do an export ESD_NO_SPAWN=1 before launching GM.

> Additionally, I can't actually close the application - it de-registers from 
> the ILS, but doesn't close properly.
> 

It seems to indicate a driver bug.

> Any help on this would be much appreciated.  I just bought my Dad a webcam for 
> Christmas and hoped we would be able to video-conference!
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Andrew
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Some additional information:

I have set "noapic" on the append line of lilo.conf.

The camera works for a while on first launch but eventually, video freeze=
s. =20
Messages like "usb_control bulk_msg timeout" appear in the messages file.

Unloading and reloading the usb-uhci module seems to bring the video back=
=2E

I've heard there is an alternative uhci module - should I be using that?

Thanks and regards,

Andrew


On Sunday 22 Dec 2002 6:31 pm, Andrew Mulheirn wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've looked through the archives and can't see anyone else having this
> problem.  I hope you can help.
>
> I have installed Gnomemeeting 0.94.1 on a freshly installed Mandrake 9
> linux machine.
> I have a Trust SpaceC@m 300XS that is correctly recognised on the USB b=
us
> and the hotplug scripts appear to be doing their job ok.
>
> Gnomemeeting displays local video on the first launch of the applicatio=
n,
> but when you have closed it and you re-launch it, I get no local video.
> Additionally, I can't actually close the application - it de-registers =
from
> the ILS, but doesn't close properly.
>
> Any help on this would be much appreciated.  I just bought my Dad a web=
cam
> for Christmas and hoped we would be able to video-conference!
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Andrew


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Le dim 22/12/2002 à 20:38, Andrew Mulheirn a écrit :
> Some additional information:
> 

You didn't answer my previous mail where I was asking what you mean by
"doesn't work". Is there an error message?
Also try the tricks I gave you.

> I have set "noapic" on the append line of lilo.conf.
> 
> The camera works for a while on first launch but eventually, video freezes.  
> Messages like "usb_control bulk_msg timeout" appear in the messages file.
> 

I think that you have an USB or webcam driver bug.
I would suggest you to contact the driver author, we are not USB
experts. Perhaps he could try GnomeMeeting with his driver and see what
happens. If you have any feedback, please contribute it back here.

> Unloading and reloading the usb-uhci module seems to bring the video back.
> 
> I've heard there is an alternative uhci module - should I be using that?

You can try, I think there is uhci and ohci, and that there are 2
versions of uhci, but I can be wrong.


> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> On Sunday 22 Dec 2002 6:31 pm, Andrew Mulheirn wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've looked through the archives and can't see anyone else having this
> > problem.  I hope you can help.
> >
> > I have installed Gnomemeeting 0.94.1 on a freshly installed Mandrake 9
> > linux machine.
> > I have a Trust SpaceC@m 300XS that is correctly recognised on the USB bus
> > and the hotplug scripts appear to be doing their job ok.
> >
> > Gnomemeeting displays local video on the first launch of the application,
> > but when you have closed it and you re-launch it, I get no local video.
> > Additionally, I can't actually close the application - it de-registers from
> > the ILS, but doesn't close properly.
> >
> > Any help on this would be much appreciated.  I just bought my Dad a webcam
> > for Christmas and hoped we would be able to video-conference!
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Andrew
> 
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Re-hello,

I try to compile GM CVS 2002-12-22 by myself on Debian unstable.

First, I found a list of dependances's packages by searching from the
gnomemeeting-cvs for Debian (cvs-20021205.deb) and I installed all of
them.

Then, I grabbed pwlib, openh323 from their cvs server, and
gnomemeeting-cvs-2002-12-22 from the download page. I put them under
the directory /opt.

For openh323, I applied the h261codec.cxx.patch.

Having all the sources, I started to compile pwlib, then openh323.
And I copied the *.so.* into /usr/lib. So far so good.

But for gnomemeeting, I cannot make the Makefile with autogen.sh.
If it's neccessary, here are all the messages generated by autogen.sh:

=========================

export PWLIBDIR=/opt/pwlib
export OPENH323DIR=/opt/openh323

dauphin:# ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --with-ptlib-includes=/opt/pwlib/include/ptlib --with-openh323-includes=/opt/openh323/include 

/usr/bin/gnome-autogen.sh
processing .
Creating ./aclocal.m4 ...
Running glib-gettextize...  Ignore non-fatal messages.
Copying file po/Makefile.in
Copying file po/Makefile.in.in

Please add the files
  codeset.m4 gettext.m4 glibc21.m4 iconv.m4 isc-posix.m4 lcmessage.m4
    progtest.m4
from the /usr/share/aclocal directory to your autoconf macro directory
or directly to your aclocal.m4 file.
You will also need config.guess and config.sub, which you can get from
ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/config/.

Making ./aclocal.m4 writable ...
Running intltoolize...
patching file po/Makefile.in.in
Hunk #1 succeeded at 21 (offset 7 lines).
Hunk #2 succeeded at 41 (offset 2 lines).
Hunk #3 succeeded at 94 with fuzz 2 (offset 2 lines).
Hunk #4 succeeded at 203 (offset -15 lines).
Hunk #5 succeeded at 214 (offset -15 lines).
Running libtoolize...
You should add the contents of `/usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4' to `aclocal.m4'.
Running aclocal -I /usr/share/aclocal/gnome2-macros  ...
aclocal: configure.in: 53: macro `AM_GCONF_SOURCE_2' not found in library
Running autoheader...
autoheader: error: AC_CONFIG_HEADERS not found in configure.in
Running automake --gnu  ...
configure.in: 9: required file `./config.h.in' not found
Running autoconf ...
Running ./configure --enable-maintainer-mode --enable-compile-warnings --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --with-ptlib-includes=/opt/pwlib/include/ptlib --with-openh323-includes=/opt/openh323/include ...
checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
./configure: line 1411: syntax error near unexpected token `gnomemeeting,'
./configure: line 1411: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'

dauphin:# 

=========================

No Makefile is generated.

Could somebody help me to correct these errors before continueing, please ?

Thanks in advance,

Truong

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Le dim 22/12/2002 à 23:37, Truong a écrit :

> checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
> ./configure: line 1411: syntax error near unexpected token `gnomemeeting,'
> ./configure: line 1411: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'
> 

Hard to tell without knowing what is line 1411 on your system.
I would suggest you to upgrade autoconf/automake.
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Damien Sandras wrote:

>Le dim 22/12/2002 à 23:37, Truong a écrit :
>
>  
>
>>checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
>>./configure: line 1411: syntax error near unexpected token `gnomemeeting,'
>>./configure: line 1411: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Hard to tell without knowing what is line 1411 on your system.
>I would suggest you to upgrade autoconf/automake.
>  
>
I run RH 8 , installed a lot a -devel packages as the program was 
conplaining, installed
from sources automake (GNU automake) 1.7.2,  autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.57,
ltmain.sh (GNU libtool) 1.4.3 (1.922.2.110 2002/10/23 01:39:54) and a 
few other
things and also get the :

./configure: line 1411: syntax error near unexpected token `gnomemeeting,'
./configure: line 1411: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'

Line 1411 at configure is only `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'

I also have a few other problems like :

Makefile.am:22: INSTALL_SCHEMAS does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at 
/usr/local/bin/automake lin
e 4352.
lib/Makefile.am:5: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
lib/Makefile.am:5:
lib/Makefile.am:5: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add 
`AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
lib/Makefile.am:5: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and `autoconf' again.
lib/Makefile.am: installing `./depcomp'
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not 
appear in AM
_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in 
AM_CONDITI
ONAL
lib/widgets/Makefile.am:1: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
lib/widgets/Makefile.am:1:
lib/widgets/Makefile.am:1: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add 
`AC_PROG_
LIBTOOL'
lib/widgets/Makefile.am:1: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and 
`autoconf' ag
ain.
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not 
appear in AM
_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in 
AM_CONDITI
ONAL
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TOOL'
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`autoconf' again
.
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ONAL
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appear in A
M_CONDITIONAL
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AM_CONDITI
ONAL
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e 4352.
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appear in AM
_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in 
AM_CONDITI
ONAL
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appear in AM
_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in 
AM_CONDITI
ONAL
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appear in AM
_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in 
AM_CONDITI
ONAL
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appear in A
M_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in 
AM_CONDITI
ONAL
Running autoconf ...
configure.in:5: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE
      If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.
      See the Autoconf documentation.
configure.in:8: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_MAINTAINER_MODE
configure.in:9: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_CONFIG_HEADER
configure.in:11: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_INTLTOOL
configure.in:13: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PROG_LIBTOOL
configure.in:53: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_GCONF_SOURCE_2
configure.in:242: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PATH_SDL
configure.in:395: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_GLIB_GNU_GETTEXT
configure.in:427: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_CONDITIONAL

All this means that I have to run libtool, atomake and autoconf with 
special parameters
for configure from gnomemeeting to compile properly?
I know I could just ask for the corresponding gnomemeeting.rpm and 
install it but I'd like to
 get a litlle deeper into understanding how all this works in Linux ... 
if you can spare a few
minutes Damien ( I know the day only has 24hours ... ).

A merry Christmas and a hapy New Year to all !

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Le lun 23/12/2002 à 12:49, João Pedro a écrit :
> I run RH 8 , installed a lot a -devel packages as the program was 
> conplaining, installed
> from sources automake (GNU automake) 1.7.2,  autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.57,
> ltmain.sh (GNU libtool) 1.4.3 (1.922.2.110 2002/10/23 01:39:54) and a 
> few other
> things and also get the :
> 
> ./configure: line 1411: syntax error near unexpected token `gnomemeeting,'
> ./configure: line 1411: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'
> 
> Line 1411 at configure is only `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'
> 

My automake is 1.4. No idea about this, but all gnome programs are
compiled with automake 1.4, perhaps your automake is too new. If you
have time, you can contribute a patch, it is perhaps an API difference
between both versions.

> I also have a few other problems like :
> 
> configure.in:8: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_MAINTAINER_MODE
> configure.in:9: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_CONFIG_HEADER
> configure.in:11: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_INTLTOOL
> configure.in:13: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PROG_LIBTOOL
> configure.in:53: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_GCONF_SOURCE_2
> configure.in:242: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PATH_SDL
> configure.in:395: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_GLIB_GNU_GETTEXT
> configure.in:427: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_CONDITIONAL
> 


You need to install intltool, libtool, gettext, sdl, and gconf, + their
devel versions.

> All this means that I have to run libtool, atomake and autoconf with 
> special parameters
> for configure from gnomemeeting to compile properly?

No, you just need to install the devel packages so that the automake
macros are available in your sustem.

> I know I could just ask for the corresponding gnomemeeting.rpm and 
> install it but I'd like to
>  get a litlle deeper into understanding how all this works in Linux ... 
> if you can spare a few
> minutes Damien ( I know the day only has 24hours ... ).
> 
> A merry Christmas and a hapy New Year to all !
> 

Merry christmas and happy new year! :)
If you can compile GM from CVS, then you can consider yourself as an
expert ;))

> João Pedro
> 
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% *** Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> wrote: ***
% Le dim 22/12/2002 =E0 23:37, Truong a =E9crit :
%=20
% > checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
% > ./configure: line 1411: syntax error near unexpected token `gnomemeetin=
g,'
% > ./configure: line 1411: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'
% >=20
%=20
% Hard to tell without knowing what is line 1411 on your system.

-------------------------
dauphin:# cd /opt/gm-20021222/
dauphin:# vim +1411 configure

AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)

-------------------------

Line 1411 in the configure file contents the same string as in the error.


% I would suggest you to upgrade autoconf/automake.


-------------------------
dauphin:# apt-cache policy automake1.4
automake1.4:
  Installed: 1:1.4-p6-5
  Candidate: 1:1.4-p6-5
  Version Table:
 *** 1:1.4-p6-5 0
        500 http://ftp.belnet.be testing/main Packages
        500 http://ftp.belnet.be unstable/main Packages
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  =20

dauphin:# apt-cache policy autoconf  =20
autoconf:
  Installed: 2.57-1
  Candidate: 2.57-1
  Version Table:
 *** 2.57-1 0
        500 http://ftp.belnet.be testing/main Packages
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        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     2.53-2 0
        500 http://ftp.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be stable/main Packages

-------------------------
					   =20
automake (v1.4-p6) and autoconf (v2.57) are already upgraded.

Anyway..  "Joyeux No=EBl et Bonne Ann=E9e"

Just take a good time with the family.


--=20
  Truong <tphuong@wol.be>


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>
> there are some points I don't understand.
>>
>> I noticed that GM FAQ doesn't explicityl list an IP address origin for
>> all GM/ILS server connections..
>
> How should it be possible to define all possible IP addresses? Which
> one does he mean?

AG> IIRC, The old Netmeeting pkg req'd all clients to log into a central
AG> ULS. Does GM/ILS also work in this manner? If so, I would rather set up
AG> my firewall rules to allow traffic from this IP address only.
AG> For instance, I would simply use the IP address for ils.seconix.com and
AG> only allow traffic originating from this domain.

>>
>> IOW, it appears that you just 'blindly' open the required ports -> TCP
>> ports 1720 and 30000-30010
>> UDP pors 5000:5003
>>
>
> That really depends on his needings. With ipchains you can check the
> packets for many aspects (source ip, destination ip and so on..), thus
> we have to know what he wants to allow/reject.
> He can verify packets, but how this works depends on his configuration.
> We need more information!

AG> I'm using IP chains and I typically deny all traffic that I've not
AG> explicitly added to my rules. Hopefully, my statement above will help
AG> clarify my intentions. I do not simply wish to open my LAN to the world.




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Le lun 23/12/2002 à 23:26, AG a écrit :

> AG> IIRC, The old Netmeeting pkg req'd all clients to log into a central
> AG> ULS. Does GM/ILS also work in this manner? If so, I would rather set up

Yes, but it is not required, that is an option.

> AG> my firewall rules to allow traffic from this IP address only.
> AG> For instance, I would simply use the IP address for ils.seconix.com and
> AG> only allow traffic originating from this domain.
> 

Even if somebody is registered on ILS, he will always call you with his
own IP and not the ILS IP.



> AG> I'm using IP chains and I typically deny all traffic that I've not
> AG> explicitly added to my rules. Hopefully, my statement above will help
> AG> clarify my intentions. I do not simply wish to open my LAN to the world.
> 

Only allowing a given IP range to call you using ipchains, is (nearly)
like only allowing a given IP range to answer to your http requests.

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> > AG> I'm using IP chains and I typically deny all traffic that I've not
> > AG> explicitly added to my rules. Hopefully, my statement above will help
> > AG> clarify my intentions. I do not simply wish to open my LAN to the world.
> > 
> 
> Only allowing a given IP range to call you using ipchains, is (nearly)
> like only allowing a given IP range to answer to your http requests.
> 

Indeed, it is just a "danger" during a GnomeMeeting Session on your
workstation. If GnomeMeeting isn't running on the client, there is no
service which replies on requests (on port 1720). By the way, my last
sentence doesn't mean that it is immediately insecure if GnomeMeeting
runs, it would just be possible if there were some bugs.

You do not open the LAN to the world. What you have to do is
port-forwarding to only one client, thus the behaviour or security of
the rest is not influenced (you defined one destination).

There is one possibiliy to restrict the incoming requests: define and
allow all IP addresses which are allowed to phone you. But I would not
suggest you to use this one.

Cheers,
Matthias




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Hello,

First, I'm not an expert of Debian system and Gnomemeeting, but I'am a
very new fan of VoIP and VideoConference under GNU Linux. So if there is
any errors in the script attached, please give me corrections or
suggestions.

I would like to learn how to compile the gnomemeeting snapshots by
myself and I got many errors. Most of them are dued to missing
dependancies or tools, not because of the source itsself.

You will find small note, attached with this mail, of all the dependancy
packages under Debian before getting to build the GM-CVS. Hopefully, you
will be able to compile it successfully. But, please consider the GM
snapshot is unstable and do not complaint to the authors if GM-CVS has
crashed your system.

Many thanks (in alphabetical order) to Damien, Fabrice, Matthias, Matti,
Snark, and others on the channel irc.gnome.org #gnomemeeting =;)

Truong

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Thanks a lot for this contribution :)

I would also add that the CVS version can be compiled without gnome
support (you loose only some features), and that in this case, you need
less libraries.


Le mer 25/12/2002 à 00:59, Truong a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> First, I'm not an expert of Debian system and Gnomemeeting, but I'am a
> very new fan of VoIP and VideoConference under GNU Linux. So if there is
> any errors in the script attached, please give me corrections or
> suggestions.
> 
> I would like to learn how to compile the gnomemeeting snapshots by
> myself and I got many errors. Most of them are dued to missing
> dependancies or tools, not because of the source itsself.
> 
> You will find small note, attached with this mail, of all the dependancy
> packages under Debian before getting to build the GM-CVS. Hopefully, you
> will be able to compile it successfully. But, please consider the GM
> snapshot is unstable and do not complaint to the authors if GM-CVS has
> crashed your system.
> 
> Many thanks (in alphabetical order) to Damien, Fabrice, Matthias, Matti,
> Snark, and others on the channel irc.gnome.org #gnomemeeting =;)
> 
> Truong
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ummm... what means "without gnome support"? does it mean you can run it also
on KDE or what? if so, how can you compile it without gnome?

Merry X-Mas to all!

Best regards,
Adrian Golumbovici
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> Thanks a lot for this contribution :)
>
> I would also add that the CVS version can be compiled without gnome
> support (you loose only some features), and that in this case, you need
> less libraries.
>
>
> Le mer 25/12/2002 à 00:59, Truong a écrit :
> > Hello,
> >
> > First, I'm not an expert of Debian system and Gnomemeeting, but I'am a
> > very new fan of VoIP and VideoConference under GNU Linux. So if there is
> > any errors in the script attached, please give me corrections or
> > suggestions.
> >
> > I would like to learn how to compile the gnomemeeting snapshots by
> > myself and I got many errors. Most of them are dued to missing
> > dependancies or tools, not because of the source itsself.
> >
> > You will find small note, attached with this mail, of all the dependancy
> > packages under Debian before getting to build the GM-CVS. Hopefully, you
> > will be able to compile it successfully. But, please consider the GM
> > snapshot is unstable and do not complaint to the authors if GM-CVS has
> > crashed your system.
> >
> > Many thanks (in alphabetical order) to Damien, Fabrice, Matthias, Matti,
> > Snark, and others on the channel irc.gnome.org #gnomemeeting =;)
> >
> > Truong
> --
> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Le mer 25/12/2002 à 12:48, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> ummm... what means "without gnome support"? does it mean you can run it also
> on KDE or what? if so, how can you compile it without gnome?
> 
> Merry X-Mas to all!
> 

GnomeMeeting already runs on KDE and has several KDE users despite its
name. 
All it does is reimplementing things in gnome libraries in pure GTK
(menus for example). Compiling without gnome support means that you
don't need all gnome libraries to compile GnomeMeeting, only GTK+,
GConf, SDL (optional), libXML and OpenH323 are needed. Of course, you
loose GNOME specific features :
- Configuration assistant
- GNOME session support
- BONOBO support (you can currently do a gnomemeeting -c callto://url,
it will start and call the right url or pass the url to an already
running GnomeMeeting)
- About box

But you need a few libraries less. We will always provide GNOME
dependant packages, but anti-GNOME KDE users can compile GM without them
and have less features.

Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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so do you have to pass a parameter or edit something to compile without
gnome support?

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> Le mer 25/12/2002 à 12:48, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> > ummm... what means "without gnome support"? does it mean you can run it
also
> > on KDE or what? if so, how can you compile it without gnome?
> >
> > Merry X-Mas to all!
> >
>
> GnomeMeeting already runs on KDE and has several KDE users despite its
> name.
> All it does is reimplementing things in gnome libraries in pure GTK
> (menus for example). Compiling without gnome support means that you
> don't need all gnome libraries to compile GnomeMeeting, only GTK+,
> GConf, SDL (optional), libXML and OpenH323 are needed. Of course, you
> loose GNOME specific features :
> - Configuration assistant
> - GNOME session support
> - BONOBO support (you can currently do a gnomemeeting -c callto://url,
> it will start and call the right url or pass the url to an already
> running GnomeMeeting)
> - About box
>
> But you need a few libraries less. We will always provide GNOME
> dependant packages, but anti-GNOME KDE users can compile GM without them
> and have less features.
>
> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
>
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list


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> so do you have to pass a parameter or edit something to compile without
> gnome support?

./configure --without-gnome <your other flags>

>
> Best regards,
> Adrian Golumbovici
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
>
>> Le mer 25/12/2002 à 12:48, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
>> > ummm... what means "without gnome support"? does it mean you can run
>> it
> also
>> > on KDE or what? if so, how can you compile it without gnome?
>> >
>> > Merry X-Mas to all!
>> >
>>
>> GnomeMeeting already runs on KDE and has several KDE users despite its
>> name.
>> All it does is reimplementing things in gnome libraries in pure GTK
>> (menus for example). Compiling without gnome support means that you
>> don't need all gnome libraries to compile GnomeMeeting, only GTK+,
>> GConf, SDL (optional), libXML and OpenH323 are needed. Of course, you
>> loose GNOME specific features :
>> - Configuration assistant
>> - GNOME session support
>> - BONOBO support (you can currently do a gnomemeeting -c callto://url,
>> it will start and call the right url or pass the url to an already
>> running GnomeMeeting)
>> - About box
>>
>> But you need a few libraries less. We will always provide GNOME
>> dependant packages, but anti-GNOME KDE users can compile GM without
>> them and have less features.
>>
>> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
>> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
>
> _______________________________________________
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hi,

I use gnomeeting from debian testing/sid

carles@pinux:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i gnomemeeting
ii  gnomemeeting   0.94.1-1       H323 Compatible Netmeeting clone for the
Gno
carles@pinux:~$

And, after a few minutes of use video for receiving:

(gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289
(g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289
(g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1307
(g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1325
(g_object_get_qdata): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(gnomemeeting:27849): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkcolor.c: line 61
(gdk_colormap_get_visual): assertion `GDK_IS_COLORMAP (colormap)' failed
carles@pinux:~$


I don't know if this is a problem with gnomemeeting or some libraries. But
it's possible that somebody knows anything :-)

I have the programs and libraries updated.

I test it with a netmeeting or with a windows ohphone.

Thank you very much.

-- 
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The place to look for such things is bugzilla.
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98179 describes your bug,
shows a backtrace and indicates that the bug was fixed in CVS on 12
november, ie 2 months ago.

I think (but it was never confirmed) that hiding the statistics part is
enough to prevent the bug to appear.

Le mer 25/12/2002 à 19:11, Carles Pina i Estany a écrit :
> hi,
> 
> I use gnomeeting from debian testing/sid
> 
> carles@pinux:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i gnomemeeting
> ii  gnomemeeting   0.94.1-1       H323 Compatible Netmeeting clone for the
> Gno
> carles@pinux:~$
> 
> And, after a few minutes of use video for receiving:
> 
> (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289
> (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> 
> (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289
> (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> 
> (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1307
> (g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> 
> (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1325
> (g_object_get_qdata): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> 
> (gnomemeeting:27849): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkcolor.c: line 61
> (gdk_colormap_get_visual): assertion `GDK_IS_COLORMAP (colormap)' failed
> carles@pinux:~$
> 
> 
> I don't know if this is a problem with gnomemeeting or some libraries. But
> it's possible that somebody knows anything :-)
> 
> I have the programs and libraries updated.
> 
> I test it with a netmeeting or with a windows ohphone.
> 
> Thank you very much.
-- 
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Hi,

Ok, thanks very much

The next bug I will use bugzilla :-)

two weeks ago I compiled the CVS versions but then it was other error
(libraries, "mea culpa")


On 25 Dec 2002, Damien Sandras wrote:

> The place to look for such things is bugzilla.
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D98179 describes your bug,
> shows a backtrace and indicates that the bug was fixed in CVS on 12
> november, ie 2 months ago.
>
> I think (but it was never confirmed) that hiding the statistics part is
> enough to prevent the bug to appear.
>
> Le mer 25/12/2002 =E0 19:11, Carles Pina i Estany a =E9crit :
> > hi,
> >
> > I use gnomeeting from debian testing/sid
> >
> > carles@pinux:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i gnomemeeting
> > ii  gnomemeeting   0.94.1-1       H323 Compatible Netmeeting clone for =
the
> > Gno
> > carles@pinux:~$
> >
> > And, after a few minutes of use video for receiving:
> >
> > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 12=
89
> > (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> >
> > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 12=
89
> > (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> >
> > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 13=
07
> > (g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> >
> > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 13=
25
> > (g_object_get_qdata): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> >
> > (gnomemeeting:27849): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkcolor.c: line 61
> > (gdk_colormap_get_visual): assertion `GDK_IS_COLORMAP (colormap)' faile=
d
> > carles@pinux:~$
> >
> >
> > I don't know if this is a problem with gnomemeeting or some libraries. =
But
> > it's possible that somebody knows anything :-)
> >
> > I have the programs and libraries updated.
> >
> > I test it with a netmeeting or with a windows ohphone.
> >
> > Thank you very much.
> --
> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
>
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
>

--=20
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=09Me llaman 'el seis pesetas'...porque me paso de duro.


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we provide debian snapshots of CVS on
ftp://www.gnomemeeting.org/gnomemeeting-cvs

They should be stable...

Le mer 25/12/2002 à 20:59, Carles Pina i Estany a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> Ok, thanks very much
> 
> The next bug I will use bugzilla :-)
> 
> two weeks ago I compiled the CVS versions but then it was other error
> (libraries, "mea culpa")
> 
> 
> On 25 Dec 2002, Damien Sandras wrote:
> 
> > The place to look for such things is bugzilla.
> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98179 describes your bug,
> > shows a backtrace and indicates that the bug was fixed in CVS on 12
> > november, ie 2 months ago.
> >
> > I think (but it was never confirmed) that hiding the statistics part is
> > enough to prevent the bug to appear.
> >
> > Le mer 25/12/2002 à 19:11, Carles Pina i Estany a écrit :
> > > hi,
> > >
> > > I use gnomeeting from debian testing/sid
> > >
> > > carles@pinux:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i gnomemeeting
> > > ii  gnomemeeting   0.94.1-1       H323 Compatible Netmeeting clone for the
> > > Gno
> > > carles@pinux:~$
> > >
> > > And, after a few minutes of use video for receiving:
> > >
> > > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289
> > > (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> > >
> > > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289
> > > (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> > >
> > > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1307
> > > (g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> > >
> > > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1325
> > > (g_object_get_qdata): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> > >
> > > (gnomemeeting:27849): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkcolor.c: line 61
> > > (gdk_colormap_get_visual): assertion `GDK_IS_COLORMAP (colormap)' failed
> > > carles@pinux:~$
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't know if this is a problem with gnomemeeting or some libraries. But
> > > it's possible that somebody knows anything :-)
> > >
> > > I have the programs and libraries updated.
> > >
> > > I test it with a netmeeting or with a windows ohphone.
> > >
> > > Thank you very much.
> > --
> > Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> >
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Does anyone know of any good web cameras on the market right now that
are support by the stock Redhat 8 distro?

Also, do I need to setup a symlink to that USB camera from /dev/video0?

Thanks in advance!

Ryan


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I always suggest to buy camera based on the philips chipset.
Logitech Quickcam Pro 3000 and 4000 for example are excellent choices.

Le jeu 26/12/2002 à 21:57, Ryan Nix a écrit :
> Does anyone know of any good web cameras on the market right now that
> are support by the stock Redhat 8 distro?
> 
> Also, do I need to setup a symlink to that USB camera from /dev/video0?
> 

No, it should automatically work.

> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Ryan
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Damien Sandras wrote:
> I always suggest to buy camera based on the philips chipset.
> Logitech Quickcam Pro 3000 and 4000 for example are excellent choices.
> 

and so i bought one hehe,
but you should install the PWCX modules in additon. :)
at least if you don t like the video to be stamp sized.

btw i don t know for 4000, but 3000 works just fine, ryan :)

cheers,
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Hello,
I have a problem with the gnomemeeting,  to be honist I am a newbie with 
gnome products and I hope that I find someone how helps me.

The problem is the following:
I like to get gnomemeeting up and running to build up a connection from 
Germany to the USA.

For the moment I try to get this tool working between to Linux machines.
One is installed with SuSE7.3 and the other one with SuSE 8.0.
The used soundsystem is ALSA and I can hear the sound. E.G. kmidi is running.

The used webcam is a Philips 730k model.

When I start gnomemeeting the video connetction is working but I get no audio 
transmitted.
Both PCs are in the same subnet and no firewalls are active.
In the controlcenter the full duplex option is turned on.

And I still get the error message/warning that the system is not able to open 
the audio channel.

Thanks for the time reading this mail and I hope to find some help any idear 
or private discussion is welcomed.


Joerg Demtroeder


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Le ven 27/12/2002 à 10:53, Joerg Demtroeder a écrit :

> When I start gnomemeeting the video connetction is working but I get no audio 
> transmitted.

> And I still get the error message/warning that the system is not able to open 
> the audio channel.

Read the faq, and make sure you defined the good devices as in/out
devices...

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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Le ven 27/12/2002 =E0 13:01, PUYDT Julien a =E9crit :
> Le ven 27/12/2002 =E0 10:53, Joerg Demtroeder a =E9crit :
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> > transmitted.
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> > And I still get the error message/warning that the system is not able t=
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> > the audio channel.
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> Read the faq, and make sure you defined the good devices as in/out
> devices...
and that artsd is not running when you start Gnomemeeting...
>=20
> Snark on #gnomemeeting
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Make sure that the module for your internal microphone is correctly
loaded, and that you chose this device in the preferences.
The sound channel being unable to open means that another program is
probably blocking the soundcard. Play with lsof or fuser to know which
one.

Le ven 27/12/2002 à 10:53, Joerg Demtroeder a écrit :
> Hello,
> I have a problem with the gnomemeeting,  to be honist I am a newbie with 
> gnome products and I hope that I find someone how helps me.
> 
> The problem is the following:
> I like to get gnomemeeting up and running to build up a connection from 
> Germany to the USA.
> 
> For the moment I try to get this tool working between to Linux machines.
> One is installed with SuSE7.3 and the other one with SuSE 8.0.
> The used soundsystem is ALSA and I can hear the sound. E.G. kmidi is running.
> 
> The used webcam is a Philips 730k model.
> 
> When I start gnomemeeting the video connetction is working but I get no audio 
> transmitted.
> Both PCs are in the same subnet and no firewalls are active.
> In the controlcenter the full duplex option is turned on.
> 
> And I still get the error message/warning that the system is not able to open 
> the audio channel.
> 
> Thanks for the time reading this mail and I hope to find some help any idear 
> or private discussion is welcomed.
> 
> 
> Joerg Demtroeder
> 
> _______________________________________________
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We have investigated the problem and it appears that when Netmeeting for
XP connects to GnomeMeeting, and only when Netmeeting is sending video,
it disconnects after a few seconds. The problem is due to a bug in
Netmeeting XP, but there is a workaround (thanks Derek for finding
this):
- Remove SendMiscCommand in openh323/src/h261codec.cxx
- Recompile
or wait for the next release of OpenH323/GnomeMeeting

That fixes the problem.

Le ven 20/12/2002 à 00:38, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> No it didn't fail with Joao as he didn't show up yet. And I was trying to
> connect to random peeps from seconix server to see if I can do some testing.
> :) I was just wondering why does it appear to try connecting to localhost.
> 
> Thx for your patience with me again. :)
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
> To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem
> 
> 
> > Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 21:22, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> > > OK. I am trying to cotact Joao for the testing. In the meantime I tried
> to
> > > connect to some random peeps which have netmeeting and got this in the
> debug
> > > output:
> > >
> >
> > Do you mean that it failed with Joao ?
> > The log indicates "Connection reset by peer".
> > I wonder if your connection setup is correct, same for firewall rules.
> > I have no more clue about your problem and I think that you will have to
> > investigate for yourself. There is nothing more I can do, unfortunately,
> > for your problem remotely.
> > That log doesn't help, it says "Ended by transport fail", which is the
> > same kind of error as when you try to connect a down host.
> >
> >
> >
> > > -------------------
> > > 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> > >
> > > 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 RFC2833 Handler created
> > >
> > > 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Created new connection: ip$local
> > >
> > > host/7266
> > >
> > > 8:07.901 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Started call thread
> > >
> > > 8:08.149 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323TCP Started connection: host=24.50.
> > >
> > > 147.246:1503, if=80.134.254.176:30005, handle=31
> > >
> > > 8:08.150 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending Setup PDU
> > >
> > > 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Check for Fast start by local en
> > >
> > > dpoint
> > >
> > > 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H245 Default OnSelectLogicalChannels,
> > >
> > > FastStartDisabled
> > >
> > > 8:08.152 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: setup
> > >
> > > 8:08.153 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Reading PDUs: callRef=7266
> > >
> > > 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Read error (104): Connection res
> > >
> > > et by peer
> > >
> > > 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> > >
> > > /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> > >
> > > 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Call end reason for ip$localhost
> > >
> > > /7266 set to EndedByTransportFail
> > >
> > > 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending release complete PDU: ca
> > >
> > > llRef=7266
> > >
> > > 8:08.412 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: releaseComplete
> > >
> > > 8:08.413 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Write PDU failed (32): Broken pi
> > >
> > > pe
> > >
> > > 8:08.414 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> > >
> > > /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> > >
> > > 8:08.414 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> > >
> > > 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 clo
> > >
> > > sing: connectionState=AwaitingSignalConnect
> > >
> > > 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close
> > >
> > > 8:08.416 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTerminat
> > >
> > > ion for H225 Caller:82695d8
> > >
> > > 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 H323Transport::Close
> > >
> > > 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Signal channel closed.
> > >
> > > 8:08.433 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 ter
> > >
> > > minated.
> > >
> > > 8:09.544 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1
> > >
> > > 8:09.894 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> > >
> > > its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> > >
> > > 8:10.097 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> > >
> > > its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> > >
> > > 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeed
> > >
> > > ed for converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P
> > >
> > > 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim its. 160x120 --
> > > 352x288
> > >
> > > 8:10.239 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> > >
> > > 8:10.385 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> > >
> > > 8:10.594 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>
> > >
> > > 8:10.600 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>
> > >
> > > 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15 k{sw} <3>
> > >
> > > 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k {sw} <4>
> > >
> > > 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>
> > >
> > > 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>
> > >
> > > 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k {sw} <7>
> > >
> > > 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k {sw} <8>
> > >
> > > 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>
> > >
> > > 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> > >
> > > 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 del eted.
> > >
> > > 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> > >
> > > -------------------
> > >
> > > what the heck is the localhost doing in there?!? except upgrading all
> > > libraries and recompiling the kernel to suit my camera requirements I
> didn't
> > > change anything. :/
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
> > > To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:25 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem
> > >
> > >
> > > > Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 12:11, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > > (2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to
> buy
> > > > > another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Philips-chipset based cameras (Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000, Philips
> > > > ToUCAM Pro) are the best: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a few months if everything goes well, I'm not doing the port myself
> > > > as I don't like window$ ;)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >  _ Damien Sandras
> > > > (o- GnomeMeeting: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
> > > > //\ FOSDEM 2003:  http://www.fosdem.org
> > > > v_/_
> > > > H.323 phone:  callto://ils.seconix.com/dsandras@seconix.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> > >
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> >
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Thanks for your help,
for the moment the given answers creating more questions for me in the moment.
So please appoligize that I ask again.

The idear to check that the devices are not used is done lsof and fuser are 
reporting nothing on the devices for /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer.
Are these the right devices?
I also switched off the arts system from KDe and aktivated the system bell.

Is there a tool to check the audio Input?

Is it possible that the in the webcam included microphone producing the 
trouble?


Thanks again for your help


Am Freitag, 27. Dezember 2002 13:01 schrieben Sie:
> Le ven 27/12/2002 à 10:53, Joerg Demtroeder a écrit :
> > When I start gnomemeeting the video connetction is working but I get no
> > audio transmitted.
> >
> > And I still get the error message/warning that the system is not able to
> > open the audio channel.
>
> Read the faq, and make sure you defined the good devices as in/out
> devices...
>
> Snark on #gnomemeeting
>
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list

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Le ven 27/12/2002 à 15:43, Joerg Demtroeder a écrit :
> Thanks for your help,
> for the moment the given answers creating more questions for me in the moment.
> So please appoligize that I ask again.
> 

This mailing list has been created to help users => no need to apology!
;)

> The idear to check that the devices are not used is done lsof and fuser are 
> reporting nothing on the devices for /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer.
> Are these the right devices?

/dev/dsp1 should be the device for the webcam internal microphone.
If it doesn't appear in the list, try to do a "modprobe audio" as root,
and restart GnomeMeeting.

> I also switched off the arts system from KDe and aktivated the system bell.
> 
> Is there a tool to check the audio Input?
> 

Not in GnomeMeeting 0.94.1 .
You can try cat /dev/dsp1 > /dev/dsp and talk in your cam microphone, if
you hear yourself, then the system is well-configured. If not, you have
a problem to identify and to solve.

> Is it possible that the in the webcam included microphone producing the 
> trouble?
> 

No, using it should solve all trouble.

> 
> Thanks again for your help
> 
> 
> Am Freitag, 27. Dezember 2002 13:01 schrieben Sie:
> > Le ven 27/12/2002 à 10:53, Joerg Demtroeder a écrit :
> > > When I start gnomemeeting the video connetction is working but I get no
> > > audio transmitted.
> > >
> > > And I still get the error message/warning that the system is not able to
> > > open the audio channel.
> >
> > Read the faq, and make sure you defined the good devices as in/out
> > devices...
> >
> > Snark on #gnomemeeting
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
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Hi,

	I am setting up video conferencing on my internal home network, and was 
wondering if anyone knew of MAC OS X based software that will 
interoperate with GnomeMeeting?  I have been looking for the last 
several days, and haven't run across anything yet.  Any help would be 
greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Andrig T. Miller


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In theory, you should be able to compile and make GnomeMeeting run on
Mac OS X. But you need things like XonX (I can be wrong, I never used
Mac OS X). If you are interested in trying, I will help you.

Le ven 27/12/2002 à 21:06, Andrig T. Miller a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> 	I am setting up video conferencing on my internal home network, and was 
> wondering if anyone knew of MAC OS X based software that will 
> interoperate with GnomeMeeting?  I have been looking for the last 
> several days, and haven't run across anything yet.  Any help would be 
> greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Andrig T. Miller
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
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Hi,
 you could try CPhone, which is on sourceforge.

It is based on the QT libraries (which work fine on mac) and 
pwlib/openh323.

Some effort may be required, I know nothing about macs, nor do I know what 
is only partially implemented on macs.

I suspect with the latest MAC OS X software it might just work.

Derek.

=======
On Fri, 27 Dec 2002, Andrig T. Miller wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> 	I am setting up video conferencing on my internal home network, and was 
> wondering if anyone knew of MAC OS X based software that will 
> interoperate with GnomeMeeting?  I have been looking for the last 
> several days, and haven't run across anything yet.  Any help would be 
> greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Andrig T. Miller
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
> 
> 

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There was one other reply referencing a project called CPhone.  That 
project is in its very early stages, so I think that I will explore 
trying to get GnomeMeeting running on MAC OS X.  I know of people who 
have built XFree86 and Gnome on MAC OS X, so this should be possible.  I 
will start checking into this, as I may need to do this for OpenOffice 
as well (currently it only has an X11 interface for the MAC).  If I run 
into problems, or need your help, I will let you know.

Thanks.

Andrig T. Miller

> In theory, you should be able to compile and make GnomeMeeting run on Mac OS X. But you need things like XonX (I can be wrong, I never used Mac OS X). If you are interested in trying, I will help you. Le ven 27/12/2002 à 21:06, Andrig T. Miller a écrit :
> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> 	I am setting up video conferencing on my internal home network, and was 
>>> wondering if anyone knew of MAC OS X based software that will 
>>> interoperate with GnomeMeeting?  I have been looking for the last 
>>> several days, and haven't run across anything yet.  Any help would be 
>>> greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Andrig T. Miller
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
>>> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
>>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
> -- Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> 



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Le sam 28/12/2002 à 19:27, Andrig T. Miller a écrit :
> There was one other reply referencing a project called CPhone.  That 
> project is in its very early stages, so I think that I will explore 
> trying to get GnomeMeeting running on MAC OS X.  I know of people who 
> have built XFree86 and Gnome on MAC OS X, so this should be possible.  I 
> will start checking into this, as I may need to do this for OpenOffice 
> as well (currently it only has an X11 interface for the MAC).  If I run 
> into problems, or need your help, I will let you know.
> 

I'm really ready to help if you have problems. Perhaps it is better to
contact me privately in that case and I will help you through the
process of building things if I'm able to do it.

Thanks!
-- 
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Hi, where is my helping hand ...?

I just installed gnomemeeting on a rh8.0-box (2.4.18-19.8.0) by a rpm-fil=
e
and started it in root-mode. everything works fine, but when i try to
start it as a "normal" user , the following errormessage occurs:

GnomeMeeting wurde 0 als GConf-Schl=FCssel
=BB/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test_age=AB
zur=FCckgeliefert, es wurde jedoch 12 erwartet.

=2E.. puh, okay, i will try ...

Gnomemeeting got a 0 as the value of the GConf-Key
=BB/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test_age=AB but expected a 12 ...



In the FAQ, the projectteam says:

7.11. I have GConf errors when I start GnomeMeeting, what can I do?
The first thing to do is to try to change the permissions with:=20
$ chmod -R 4755 /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/
$ killall -9 gconfd-2
 If it doesn't work, either GConf is not properly setup on your system,=20
either you don't have compiled GnomeMeeting with the right GConf flags.
Not all distributions install GConf settings in /etc/gconf, but=20
gconftool-2 --get-default-source should always give you the place where=20
default GConf settings are installed.=20

When starting, GnomeMeeting will test the value for a given key, and=20
compares it to what it expected to receive. If what he receives doesn't
match whith what he expected, then there is a problem. That key is=20
"/apps/gnomemeeting/general/gconf_test_age", and gconftool-2 --get=20
"/apps/gnomemeeting/general/gconf_test_age" should always return a
value different of 0.



But, unfortunatly, that does not help me at all ..


Any ideas ???

Thankx a lot, Andi

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Le dim 29/12/2002 à 01:33, Andreas Mueller a écrit :
> Hi, where is my helping hand ...?
> 
> I just installed gnomemeeting on a rh8.0-box (2.4.18-19.8.0) by a rpm-file
> and started it in root-mode. everything works fine, but when i try to
> start it as a "normal" user , the following errormessage occurs:
> 

That is typically a permissions problems.
Try to see if /etc/gconf and its subdirectories and files are readable
with ls -l by your user. If not, change the permissions.

> GnomeMeeting wurde 0 als GConf-Schlüssel
> »/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test_age«
> zurückgeliefert, es wurde jedoch 12 erwartet.
> 
> ... puh, okay, i will try ...
> 
> Gnomemeeting got a 0 as the value of the GConf-Key
> »/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test_age« but expected a 12 ...
> 
> 
> 
> In the FAQ, the projectteam says:
> 
> 7.11. I have GConf errors when I start GnomeMeeting, what can I do?
> The first thing to do is to try to change the permissions with: 
> $ chmod -R 4755 /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/
> $ killall -9 gconfd-2
>  If it doesn't work, either GConf is not properly setup on your system, 
> either you don't have compiled GnomeMeeting with the right GConf flags.
> Not all distributions install GConf settings in /etc/gconf, but 
> gconftool-2 --get-default-source should always give you the place where 
> default GConf settings are installed. 
> 
> When starting, GnomeMeeting will test the value for a given key, and 
> compares it to what it expected to receive. If what he receives doesn't
> match whith what he expected, then there is a problem. That key is 
> "/apps/gnomemeeting/general/gconf_test_age", and gconftool-2 --get 
> "/apps/gnomemeeting/general/gconf_test_age" should always return a
> value different of 0.
> 
> 
> 
> But, unfortunatly, that does not help me at all ..
> 
> 
> Any ideas ???
> 
> Thankx a lot, Andi
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
-- 
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Hi all this is my first post on this ML and for first i'd like to say
Marry Christmas and Happy new year to all.

and now the problem ...
I've just switched to debian but also with redhat 8.0 I've experienced
the same problem when I start to use GM 0.94.1, After I start a calling
a netmeeting client (but i really don't if the problem appears also in
the call to gm client) after some minute the viedo module crash and GM
windows is inaccessible ... but the audio continue to work so I can talk
also for lot of time. I don't now if the problem is due to my webcam but
as i just say i get this problem only when i switch to gm 0.94.1 

have anyone experienced the same problem  and have a solution ?

any Idea ?

bye
Alkex


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Dears, 

I have problem during the ./configure. 

[root@localhost gnomemeeting-0.95.0]# ./configure
checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for working aclocal... found
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... found
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking for intltool >= 0.20... 0.22 found
checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl
checking for gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables...
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed
checking for ld used by GCC... /usr/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes
checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r
checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking how to recognise dependant libraries... pass_all
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for egrep... grep -E
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for sys/types.h... yes
checking for sys/stat.h... yes
checking for stdlib.h... yes
checking for string.h... yes
checking for memory.h... yes
checking for strings.h... yes
checking for inttypes.h... yes
checking for stdint.h... yes
checking for unistd.h... yes
checking dlfcn.h usability... yes
checking dlfcn.h presence... yes
checking for dlfcn.h... yes
checking for g++... g++
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes
checking whether g++ accepts -g... yes
checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... g++ -E
checking the maximum length of command line arguments... 49153
checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from gcc object... ok
checking for objdir... .libs
checking for ranlib... ranlib
checking for strip... strip
checking if gcc static flag  works... yes
checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... yes
checking for gcc option to produce PIC... -fPIC
checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes
checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes
checking whether the gcc linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... 
yes
checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes
checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so
checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build static libraries... yes
configure: creating libtool
appending configuration tag "CXX" to libtool
checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... 
yes
 -fPIC
checking if g++ PIC flag -fPIC works... yes
checking if g++ supports -c -o file.o... yes
checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... 
yes
checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... yes
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes
checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so
appending configuration tag "GCJ" to libtool
checking if gcj supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... (cached) yes
checking for gcj option to produce PIC... -fPIC
checking if gcj PIC flag -fPIC works... no
checking if gcj supports -c -o file.o... no
checking whether the gcj linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... 
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checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
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checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so
checking for gcc... (cached) gcc
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... (cached) yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... (cached) none needed
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... (cached) yes
checking whether g++ accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking for strerror in -lcposix... no
checking for ANSI C header files... (cached) yes
checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
checking for libgnomeui-2.0 >= 1.112.0 linc >= 0.5.0 libbonobo-2.0 >= 2.0.0 
esound >= 0.2.28... yes
checking GNOMEMEETING_CFLAGS...     -I/usr/include/libgnomeui-2.0 
 -I/usr/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 
 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/include/gconf/2 
 -I/usr/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 
 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/orbit-2.0 
 -I/usr/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 
 -I/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/include/linc-1.0 
 -I/usr/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/include/libxml2 
 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include 
 -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/Xft2 -I/usr/X11R6/include
checking GNOMEMEETING_LIBS...     -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgnomeui-2 -lSM -lICE 
 -lbonoboui-2 -lgnomecanvas-2 -lgnome-2 -lart_lgpl_2 -lpangoft2-1.0 
 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangoxft-1.0 
 -lpangox-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lgconf-2 -lgnomevfs-2 -lbonobo-2 
 -lbonobo-activation -lORBit-2 -lxml2 -lz -llinc -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl 
 -lgobject-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lpthread -lglib-2.0 -lesd -laudiofile -lm
Using config source xml::/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults for schema 
installation
Using $(sysconfdir)/gconf/schemas/ as install directory for schema files
checking for long... yes
checking size of long... 4
checking whether byte ordering is bigendian... no
checking whether OS type is supported... yes
checking for PTLib includes...
checking for /usr/lib/libpt.so... no
configure: error: You need PTLib to enjoy GnomeMeeting 


Could anyone help me, please? 


Best regards, 

Denis.

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Hi all this is my first post on this ML and for first i'd like to say
Marry Christmas and Happy new year to all.

and now the problem ...
I've just switched to debian but also with redhat 8.0 I've experienced
the same problem when I start to use GM 0.94.1, After I start a calling
a netmeeting client (but i really don't if the problem appears also in
the call to gm client) after some minute the viedo module crash and GM
windows is inaccessible ... but the audio continue to work so I can talk
also for lot of time. I don't now if the problem is due to my webcam but
as i just say i get this problem only when i switch to gm 0.94.1 

have anyone experienced the same problem  and have a solution ?

any Idea ?

bye
Alkex


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Hi, this was a known bug of GnomeMeeting 0.94.1. Actually, the problem
was that I was freeing some GtkWidget in the stats display part I
shouldn't have freed.

I would suggest you to use the CVS version if your problem appears too
often. It only appeared on some systems.

Debs of the CVS version are available here:
deb ftp://www.gnomemeeting.org/gnomemeeting-cvs/ ./
apt-get update; apt-get install gnomemeeting-cvs

We can provide RH8 Rpms on request.

Le dim 29/12/2002 à 10:35, Alkex a écrit :
> Hi all this is my first post on this ML and for first i'd like to say
> Marry Christmas and Happy new year to all.
> 
> and now the problem ...
> I've just switched to debian but also with redhat 8.0 I've experienced
> the same problem when I start to use GM 0.94.1, After I start a calling
> a netmeeting client (but i really don't if the problem appears also in
> the call to gm client) after some minute the viedo module crash and GM
> windows is inaccessible ... but the audio continue to work so I can talk
> also for lot of time. I don't now if the problem is due to my webcam but
> as i just say i get this problem only when i switch to gm 0.94.1 
> 
> have anyone experienced the same problem  and have a solution ?
> 
> any Idea ?
> 
> bye
> Alkex
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
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Le ven 27/12/2002 à 01:29, Everson Denis a écrit :
> checking for PTLib includes...
> checking for /usr/lib/libpt.so... no
> configure: error: You need PTLib to enjoy GnomeMeeting 
> 
> 
> Could anyone help me, please? 

Simple, you need to install PWLib.
Please check the FAQ, there is a detailed installation procedure.

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On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 10:36, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Hi, this was a known bug of GnomeMeeting 0.94.1. Actually, the problem
> was that I was freeing some GtkWidget in the stats display part I
> shouldn't have freed.
> 
> I would suggest you to use the CVS version if your problem appears too
> often. It only appeared on some systems.
> 
> Debs of the CVS version are available here:
> deb ftp://www.gnomemeeting.org/gnomemeeting-cvs/ ./
> apt-get update; apt-get install gnomemeeting-cvs
> 
I've just try but i get a time out from gnomemeeting.org

> We can provide RH8 Rpms on request.





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% *** Alkex <alkex@inwind.it> wrote: ***
% On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 10:36, Damien Sandras wrote:
% > 
% > Debs of the CVS version are available here:
% > deb ftp://www.gnomemeeting.org/gnomemeeting-cvs/ ./
% > apt-get update; apt-get install gnomemeeting-cvs
% > 
% I've just try but i get a time out from gnomemeeting.org
% 

I confirm the site is up !

---------------------------------
user:$ date
Sun Dec 29 12:17:13 CET 2002

user:$ apt-cache policy gnomemeeting-cvs

gnomemeeting-cvs:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 20021229.CVS-1
  Version Table:
     20021229.CVS-1 0
        500 ftp://www.gnomemeeting.org ./ Packages
     20021208.CVS-1 0
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
---------------------------------

Try with your browser (i.e. links) to see if you can still access it.


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On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 11:46, Alkex wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 10:36, Damien Sandras wrote:
> > Hi, this was a known bug of GnomeMeeting 0.94.1. Actually, the problem
> > was that I was freeing some GtkWidget in the stats display part I
> > shouldn't have freed.
> > 
> > I would suggest you to use the CVS version if your problem appears too
> > often. It only appeared on some systems.
> > 
> > Debs of the CVS version are available here:
> > deb ftp://www.gnomemeeting.org/gnomemeeting-cvs/ ./
> > apt-get update; apt-get install gnomemeeting-cvs
> > 
> I've just try but i get a time out from gnomemeeting.org
> 
> > We can provide RH8 Rpms on request.

ok solved, now seems that all it's ok 

thanks  

bye
Alkex


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Just curious. Is it only possible to use ALSA with gnomemeeting through OSS 
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Le dim 29/12/2002 à 16:31, Georgi Georgiev a écrit :
> Just curious. Is it only possible to use ALSA with gnomemeeting through OSS 
> emulation?
> 
Till now yes.
If you want to contribute a PWLib patch, it is welcome :)

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Hi!
I installed the packages of 
http://www.gnomemeeting.org/admin/downloads/latest/suse/misc/
on a SUSE 8.1 (!!) and after a lot of tweaking it worked.
changed firewall settings , stopped artsd, adjusted audio devices 

but it frequently crashes
(gnomemeeting.bin:25024): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289 
(g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(gnomemeeting.bin:25024): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1307 
(g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

and another similar with *color*.c (can't remember)

cu
ferdinand
http://www.goesing.at

PS I am not on the list.

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Hi!

That bug has been fixed in CVS one week after the release, there is
nothing to do except waiting for next release happening soon.


Le dim 29/12/2002 à 17:11, Ferdinand Gassauer a écrit :
> Hi!
> I installed the packages of 
> http://www.gnomemeeting.org/admin/downloads/latest/suse/misc/
> on a SUSE 8.1 (!!) and after a lot of tweaking it worked.
> changed firewall settings , stopped artsd, adjusted audio devices 
> 
> but it frequently crashes
> (gnomemeeting.bin:25024): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289 
> (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> 
> (gnomemeeting.bin:25024): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1307 
> (g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> 
> and another similar with *color*.c (can't remember)
> 
> cu
> ferdinand
> http://www.goesing.at
> 
> PS I am not on the list.
> _______________________________________________
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Hi,

I read the FAQ, and didn't see an answer to this, so here goes.

If one party in a gnomemeeting is using a quicknet card for G.723.1 or G.729
compression, must the recipient also be using a quicknet card for decompression
? (or can gnomemeeting handle the decompression, just not the compression ?)

thx, and rgds,

-Greg

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Le lun 30/12/2002 à 10:37, Gregory Hosler a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I read the FAQ, and didn't see an answer to this, so here goes.
> 
> If one party in a gnomemeeting is using a quicknet card for G.723.1 or G.729
> compression, must the recipient also be using a quicknet card for decompression
> ? (or can gnomemeeting handle the decompression, just not the compression ?)
> 

The remote party has to be using a Quicknet card too if you want to use
one of those patented codecs. If the remote party is using Netmeeting,
then the G.723.1 codec is available.

Notice that Quicknet cards have other advantages than the support for
G.723.1 and that they can also use the software codecs like Speex or GSM
provided with GnomeMeeting.

> thx, and rgds,
> 
> -Greg

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I am using the  Gnomemeeting 0.12.2  that came with my Suse 8.0  Here are=
 a=20
few problems that I am having with it while commnucating with others who =
are=20
using Netmeeting and GnomeMeeting:

(1)  While the recipients of my audio often report that the sound I am se=
nding=20
is excellent,  they just as frequently report that it is so tinny (not ti=
ny)=20
as to be unintelligible.  Moreover while the sound transmission can begin=
=20
with excellent quality, it can flip to the tinny sound after a few minute=
s.=20
It never flips from tinny to good. The  quality of the sound that I recei=
ve=20
is always good.=20

(2) The headphone and microphone sound controls on my GnomeMeeting do not=
 work=20
(have no effect whatsoever.)

(3)  The sound volume controls on  my mixers have no effect with gnomemee=
ting=20
although they do work  with all other programs except ohphone. Howvever t=
he=20
mixers do successfully turn my audio transmit on and off.

Problems (1)-(3) also apply to ohphone.


A more minor problem is this:

(4) The  ringing alert for incoming calls does not work while I am runnin=
g=20
GnomeMeeting in KDE but it does while I am runing it in Gnome.

Any help that you might have for me wouldbe greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

Andrew Carson.

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Am Mon, 2002-12-30 um 16.46 schrieb Andrew Carson:
> I am using the  Gnomemeeting 0.12.2  that came with my Suse 8.0  Here are a 
> few problems that I am having with it while commnucating with others who are 
> using Netmeeting and GnomeMeeting:

0.12.2 is a very old release. The latest stable release of GnomeMeeting
is 0.94.1, thus I would suggest you to upgrade your GnomeMeeting.
> 
> (1)  While the recipients of my audio often report that the sound I am sending 
> is excellent,  they just as frequently report that it is so tinny (not tiny) 
> as to be unintelligible.  Moreover while the sound transmission can begin 
> with excellent quality, it can flip to the tinny sound after a few minutes. 
> It never flips from tinny to good. The  quality of the sound that I receive 
> is always good. 

This can have several reasons, bandwidth problems for instance. Which
codec do you use?

> 
> (2) The headphone and microphone sound controls on my GnomeMeeting do not work 
> (have no effect whatsoever.)
> 
> (3)  The sound volume controls on  my mixers have no effect with gnomemeeting 
> although they do work  with all other programs except ohphone. Howvever the 
> mixers do successfully turn my audio transmit on and off.
> 
> Problems (1)-(3) also apply to ohphone.
> 
> 
> A more minor problem is this:
> 
> (4) The  ringing alert for incoming calls does not work while I am running 
> GnomeMeeting in KDE but it does while I am runing it in Gnome.
> 
> Any help that you might have for me wouldbe greatly appreciated.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Andrew Carson.
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Hi!
To avoid to kill artsd - which is frequently suggested - start

artsdsp gnomemeeting 
eventually editing the gnomemeeting.desktop file

see artsdsp.c
/* Evil evil evil hack to get OSS apps to cooperate with artsd
 * This is based on the original esddsp, which esd uses to do the same.
 *
 * Copyright (C) 1998 Manish Singh <yosh@gimp.org>
 * Copyright (C) 2000 Stefan Westerfeld <stefan@space.twc.de> (aRts port)
.....
hope that helps

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gnomemeeting comes pre-installed on Red Hat seince Red Hat 7.3

RH 7.3 has GM 0.85.1 pre-configured.

rgds,

-Greg

On 31-Dec-2002 Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Since I managed to trash my Mandrake 9.0 while trying to upgrade some
> packages :) , I was thinking to play / learn some more about other UNIX /
> Linux systems, so it crossed my mind to try maybe something from the BSD
> family or maybe Solaris 9 for x86. Anyone managed to install gnomemeeting on
> such thing? I mean painless of course. ;)
> 
> Best regards and a happy new year!!!
> Adrian Golumbovici

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Debian is hard to install, but easy to maintain.
You can run apt-get install gnomemeeting even with a 3 years old system
and it will be installed without pain.

FreeBSD is harder and Solaris is not Free.

Le mar 31/12/2002 à 13:01, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> Hi,
>  
> Since I managed to trash my Mandrake 9.0 while trying to upgrade some
> packages :) , I was thinking to play / learn some more about other
> UNIX / Linux systems, so it crossed my mind to try maybe something
> from the BSD family or maybe Solaris 9 for x86. Anyone managed to
> install gnomemeeting on such thing? I mean painless of course. ;)
>  
> Best regards and a happy new year!!!
> Adrian Golumbovici
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Thx Damien. OK. I will try to go with debian first then. I can't imagine the
installing is harder than what linux was like about 2-3 years ago so I think
I will manage it.
I'll let you know on the results.

Best regards,
Adrian Golumbovici
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> Debian is hard to install, but easy to maintain.
> You can run apt-get install gnomemeeting even with a 3 years old system
> and it will be installed without pain.
>
> FreeBSD is harder and Solaris is not Free.
>
> Le mar 31/12/2002 à 13:01, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > Since I managed to trash my Mandrake 9.0 while trying to upgrade some
> > packages :) , I was thinking to play / learn some more about other
> > UNIX / Linux systems, so it crossed my mind to try maybe something
> > from the BSD family or maybe Solaris 9 for x86. Anyone managed to
> > install gnomemeeting on such thing? I mean painless of course. ;)
> >
> > Best regards and a happy new year!!!
> > Adrian Golumbovici
> --
> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
>
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That could help to have a native port of GnomeMeeting on OS X when
compiling gnomemeeting with --disable-gnome :

http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/02/12/31/149202.shtml?tid=179

Anybody interested?
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Both my wife and I have Gnomemeeting 0.94.1 installed on our computers both of which run Suse 8.1.
Neither of us is able to  transmit sound although both of us are able to receive both sound and video. 
We have tested the abilty to receive sound by receiving sound sent by netmeeting to gnomemeeting.

Has anyone heard of a similar problem? Does anyone have any suggestions?

Andrew Carson.

PS Originally We were running Suse 8.0 with Gnomemeeting 0.12 that came with it. These could both send and receive sound and video,
but after a while the sound became  so tinny that it was hard to understand. When I posted this to this group, I received the following advice:

>0.12.2 is a very old release. The latest stable release of GnomeMeeting
>is 0.94.1, thus I would suggest you to upgrade your GnomeMeeting.

I  was unable to do this under Suse 8.0 as even the version of pwlib given on the gnomemeeting.org download site with the Suse RPM's for gnomemeeting 0.94.1
would not install in Suse 8.0. I thus installed Suse 8.1. The pwlib, h323 and gnomemeeting 0.94.1 all then installed. At this point I was unable to transmit sound, as described 
above.





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PS We can both transmit sound from our computers when running netmeeting.




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I use GnomeMeeting on FreeBSD. It installs easily from the FreeBSD
Ports, but has support for only a couple of video sources. This makes
it more difficult to use. Incoming video and sound are fine.

I really prefer FreeBSD to Linux for its consistency. It is a complete
OS, unlike the various Linux distros where you have a Linux kernel
surrounded by a variety of software that is put together by each
distributor. FreeBSD is FreeBSD while RedHat and not Debian is not
Mandrake is not Suse, ...

But for GnomeMeeting, Linux is probably still your best bet for video
transmission.

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
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I'm not sure I understand your mail. You tell us :
- A and B communicate
- A and B can receive sound and video
- A and B cannot transmit sound and video

How can you be sure you are able to receive if the remote user is unable
to transmit?

If I had to guess your problem, I would say that you don't have problems
to transmit but that the problem is on reception. 

You don't give enough information yet to debug the problem but:
- Are you behind a NAT gateway or router or is it a direct connection to
the Net ?
- Are you firewalled or not ?

Le mar 31/12/2002 à 18:41, Andrew and Catherine a écrit :
> Both my wife and I have Gnomemeeting 0.94.1 installed on our computers both of which run Suse 8.1.
> Neither of us is able to  transmit sound although both of us are able to receive both sound and video. 
> We have tested the abilty to receive sound by receiving sound sent by netmeeting to gnomemeeting.
> 
> Has anyone heard of a similar problem? Does anyone have any suggestions?
> 
> Andrew Carson.
> 
> PS Originally We were running Suse 8.0 with Gnomemeeting 0.12 that came with it. These could both send and receive sound and video,
> but after a while the sound became  so tinny that it was hard to understand. When I posted this to this group, I received the following advice:
> 
> >0.12.2 is a very old release. The latest stable release of GnomeMeeting
> >is 0.94.1, thus I would suggest you to upgrade your GnomeMeeting.
> 
> I  was unable to do this under Suse 8.0 as even the version of pwlib given on the gnomemeeting.org download site with the Suse RPM's for gnomemeeting 0.94.1
> would not install in Suse 8.0. I thus installed Suse 8.1. The pwlib, h323 and gnomemeeting 0.94.1 all then installed. At this point I was unable to transmit sound, as described 
> above.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Am Die, 2002-12-31 um 18.57 schrieb Kevin Oberman:
> I use GnomeMeeting on FreeBSD. It installs easily from the FreeBSD
> Ports, but has support for only a couple of video sources. This makes
> it more difficult to use. Incoming video and sound are fine.

But it is an old release, isn't it? I think the FreeBSD Ports include
GnomeMeeting 0.85 due to the required libraries (but I am not sure
because I do not use FreeBSD).

> 
> I really prefer FreeBSD to Linux for its consistency. It is a complete
> OS, unlike the various Linux distros where you have a Linux kernel
> surrounded by a variety of software that is put together by each
> distributor. FreeBSD is FreeBSD while RedHat and not Debian is not
> Mandrake is not Suse, ...

That is correct, BSDs are not just a kernel (like linux, for instance).
This solution has advantages and also disadvantages. It is a sensitive
topic which could start a flamewar, thus I think we should not start to
discuss about "linux vs. BSD" ;)
I really agree to you. I also prefer BSD, though I do not like FreeBSD -
I am using NetBSD (hey, we could start a flamewar too ;).

> 
> But for GnomeMeeting, Linux is probably still your best bet for video
> transmission.

Especially on NetBSD because there are still some problems with some
software. Nevertheless it is also possible to use GnomeMeeting.

> 
> R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
> Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
> Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
> E-mail: oberman@es.net			Phone: +1 510 486-8634
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Gnomemeeting has been included in the internet phone database
at http://www.iphone.milescape.com/, its detail shows that the
Gnomemeeting supports other languages except English, who knows 
what other languages are? or you re-submit it.

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On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 19:40:08 -0800 (PST)
A B <thefirstwebchef@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Gnomemeeting has been included in the internet phone database
> at http://www.iphone.milescape.com/, its detail shows that the
> Gnomemeeting supports other languages except English, who knows 
> what other languages are? or you re-submit it.

Here is the answer ;)

[aflinta@warp aflinta]$ rpm -ql gnomemeeting |grep .mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/cs/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/da/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/el/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/gl/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/hu/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/no/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/pt/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/sk/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
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/usr/X11R6/share/locale/vi/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/wa/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo
/usr/X11R6/share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/gnomemeeting.mo


					Artur
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On Saturday 30 November 2002 04:41, william bastian wrote:
> that answered my question.  the ymessenger available from yahoo for
> linux does not support video conferencing and they say they have no
> immediate plans to make it happen.  just goes to show that  it will tak=
e
> some more market penetration by linux before they  sit up and take
> notice.
>     maybe netmeeting is what i am puzzling over, comes along with
> msnmessenger, have not used a web camera on that very often, it is not
> very good quality compared with ymessenger video, which is good
> i do know you have to open TCP 5100 on the firewall in the router for
> the new super-web camera feature  that they have in the current
> ymessenger 5.5 that people with high speed access can use,  dsl or cabl=
e
> modem.  i am using a dsl modem and a linksys router to hook both my
> windows 2k and the linux  mandrake 9.0 computers up to the dsl modem.
> both computers have 256meg of ram and are running at 1 gig for
> processors, amd brand processors.  using ethernet 10-100 cards  to the
> router and ethernet into the dsl modem.
> i am using mandrake linux 9.0, the 8.2 mandrake linux had a copy of
> gnome-meeting with it, but it never worked.  this 9.0 does see a
> logitech netcam express, a picture comes up on the screen.  just do nee=
d
> to know what to put in the address to make things happen, to get onto
> something like netmeeting.  again, i  understand that gnome-meeting is
> evolving and has not even reached 1.0 yet,  so writing a extensive
> instruction book for it might  be a bit of a waste of time since it wil=
l
> be changing.
>     so what do i put in that address window when it shows up?? the
> msnmessenger ID of the person i would like to netmeet with?  is there a
> special syntax or order?  remember, like a lot of windows user i am
> pretty much a point and click specialist(build my own computers and and
> get them running, including windows, and attempting to learn the linux
> mandrake operating system, which IS considerably different) so slowly
> attempting to learn the linux operating system a little at a time.
>   thanks for answering that question!  dissipates some fog!! i will als=
o
> work on cutting down the length of my responses.thanks for your
> patience. bill
>
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Hello

Try this link:http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/mdoc/user/video-apps.html
Good luck

Pablo



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capture images from video?

thanks

vete


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Le dim 01/12/2002 à 20:00, francesco.melo a écrit :
> capture images from video?
> 
> thanks


File menu -> Save ... It will be saved in your home directory.
Only pics, no mpeg video yet.


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Slackware packages of GM 0.94.1 are now available thanks to Vincent
Deroo. I would like to thank Alain Buret who also made packages.

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Hi,

I coded a lot this WE to improve the Quicknet support in GnomeMeeting.
It is now nearly complete, I just plan to improve the code tonight.

Please, if you own a Quicknet card, and want to test, contact me
privately. Thanks!


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Hi,

It "seems"  working well with gnomemeeting with seconix.com :
I can see all the people connecting ...
I try to connect on some of them ,
but it tries to connect , I wait,wait,  nothing happens
OR,
after a short time : "connection terminated"
sometimes I have the connection :
a web-cam image appears :
I send a message and I never receive a answer !=20
quid ?
does it come from "gnomemeeting" or "seconix" ?
thanks
Antoine

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It probalby comes from bad configuration on your side.

Are you NATted?

Le lun 02/12/2002 à 21:03, antoine a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> It "seems"  working well with gnomemeeting with seconix.com :
> I can see all the people connecting ...
> I try to connect on some of them ,
> but it tries to connect , I wait,wait,  nothing happens
> OR,
> after a short time : "connection terminated"
> sometimes I have the connection :
> a web-cam image appears :
> I send a message and I never receive a answer ! 
> quid ?
> does it come from "gnomemeeting" or "seconix" ?
> thanks
> Antoine
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Le Mardi 3 D=E9cembre 2002 09:44, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> It probalby comes from bad configuration on your side.
> Are you NATted?
-----------
what do you mean about : "NATted" ?
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Am Dienstag, 3. Dezember 2002 12:25 schrieb antoine:
> Le Mardi 3 D=E9cembre 2002 09:44, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> > It probalby comes from bad configuration on your side.
> > Are you NATted?
>
> -----------
> what do you mean about : "NATted" ?
> antoine

NATed =3D behind a firewall inside a private network.=20
NAT =3D Network Adress Translation, it maps private IP's (like 10.0.x.x or=
=20
192.168.x.x) to official adresses. Normally you use it if you only have one=
=20
official IP, but many local clients ...

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Le Mardi 3 D=E9cembre 2002 09:44, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> It probalby comes from bad configuration on your side.
> Are you NATted?
-------------------------------------
Hi,

A friend-user makes this command on MY IP on seconix :

nmap -O 62.147.123.60
Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, =
try=20
-P0
Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (0 hosts up) scanned in 30 seconds
------------------------
the user on his PC :
nmap -O 212.194.78.197
Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
Interesting ports on lns04a-7-197.w.club-internet.fr (212.194.78.197):
(The 1594 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
Port       State       Service
80/tcp     open        http                   =20
443/tcp    open        https                  =20
515/tcp    open        printer                =20
631/tcp    open        ipp                    =20
1720/tcp   open        H.323/Q.931            =20
6000/tcp   open        X11                    =20
7000/tcp   open        afs3-fileserver        =20
Remote operating system guess: Linux Kernel 2.4.0 - 2.5.20
Uptime 0.134 days (since Mon Dec  2 19:35:35 2002)

Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 7 second
---------------------
So, it works on the user but not with my IP ...
problem of firewall ?
thanks
antoine

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Le mar 03/12/2002 à 12:36, antoine a écrit :

> So, it works on the user but not with my IP ...

I don't understand this.

> problem of firewall ?

If you have a firewall, yes it can be a problem. I would suggest you to
read the FAQ, that should help you to debug your problem...

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Hi,
me again :

=46rom my PC connected to seconix , I type :

 nmap -O 62.147.137.217

Starting nmap V. 2.54BETA31 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
Interesting ports on nas-cbv-3-62-147-137-217.dial.proxad.net=20
(62.147.137.217):
(The 1551 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
Port       State       Service
515/tcp    open        printer
6000/tcp   open        X11
-----------
I have not the :=20
1720/tcp   open        H.323/Q.931            =20

quid ?

thanks

antoine Wach=E9


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Try nmap -p 1720 62.147.137.217
but that wouldn't help anyway.
Please read the FAQ to debug your problem. You don't give enough info
about the problem for us to be able to debug it. You might also have
contacted people with a wrong setup on ILS. Many users on ILS register
without having tested anything.

Le mar 03/12/2002 à 12:57, antoine a écrit :
> Hi,
> me again :
> 
> From my PC connected to seconix , I type :
> 
>  nmap -O 62.147.137.217
> 
> Starting nmap V. 2.54BETA31 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
> Interesting ports on nas-cbv-3-62-147-137-217.dial.proxad.net 
> (62.147.137.217):
> (The 1551 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
> Port       State       Service
> 515/tcp    open        printer
> 6000/tcp   open        X11
> -----------
> I have not the : 
> 1720/tcp   open        H.323/Q.931             
> 
> quid ?
> 
> thanks
> 
> antoine Waché
> 
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Le Mardi 3 D=E9cembre 2002 11:04, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> Try nmap -p 1720 62.147.137.217
> but that wouldn't help anyway.
> Please read the FAQ to debug your problem. You don't give enough info
> about the problem for us to be able to debug it. You might also have
> contacted people with a wrong setup on ILS. Many users on ILS register
> without having tested anything.
> > -----------
> > I have not the :
> > 1720/tcp   open        H.323/Q.931
------------------------------
difficult to say more precisions ...
-------
I read the FAQ : no subject about : "no message received ..."
it's why I contact this list :-)
-----
I try to connect on your name (Damien Sandras) on seconix but no answer.
I can connect to many people , they receive my messages but I don't recei=
ve=20
their message.
-----
Do I have to configure /etc/ldap.conf ?

bye

antoine



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I'm in do not disturb mode =>
13:09:36 Appel de antoine Henri  qui utilise gnomemeeting	0.85.1	9/61
13:09:36 Refusé automatiquement

Your GnomeMeeting is 0.85.1, and yes there can be problems with messages
transmission between 0.9x and 0.85.1 because we are doing this in UTF-8
in GM 0.9x. You should upgrade to a newer version.

If you want to make sure your GnomeMeeting is well configured, please go
on the IRC channel and ask to somebody to test with you.

Le mar 03/12/2002 à 15:25, antoine a écrit :
> Le Mardi 3 Décembre 2002 11:04, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> > Try nmap -p 1720 62.147.137.217
> > but that wouldn't help anyway.
> > Please read the FAQ to debug your problem. You don't give enough info
> > about the problem for us to be able to debug it. You might also have
> > contacted people with a wrong setup on ILS. Many users on ILS register
> > without having tested anything.
> > > -----------
> > > I have not the :
> > > 1720/tcp   open        H.323/Q.931
> ------------------------------
> difficult to say more precisions ...
> -------
> I read the FAQ : no subject about : "no message received ..."
> it's why I contact this list :-)
> -----
> I try to connect on your name (Damien Sandras) on seconix but no answer.
> I can connect to many people , they receive my messages but I don't receive 
> their message.
> -----
> Do I have to configure /etc/ldap.conf ?
> 
> bye
> 
> antoine
> 
> 
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Le Mardi 3 D=E9cembre 2002 13:28, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> I'm in do not disturb mode =3D>
> 13:09:36 Appel de antoine Henri  qui utilise gnomemeeting=090.85.1=099/=
61
> 13:09:36 Refus=E9 automatiquement
> Your GnomeMeeting is 0.85.1, and yes there can be problems with message=
s
> transmission between 0.9x and 0.85.1 because we are doing this in UTF-8
> in GM 0.9x. You should upgrade to a newer version.
ok, it's what I have to do ...=20
> If you want to make sure your GnomeMeeting is well configured, please g=
o
> on the IRC channel and ask to somebody to test with you.
Sorry but :-) : How to do go to a IRC channel and do a IRC chat ?
antoine

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On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 03:03:21PM +0000, antoine wrote:
> Sorry but :-) : How to do go to a IRC channel and do a IRC chat ?
> antoine

Shame on you Antoine ! Google "irc linux" and read your way through. Use
the chat client that goes with Mozilla if you like. I find it easy to use.

Have a good read. Tonight around 22:00 I'll probably have GM up and we can 
test your setup if you like.
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As promised, I reported this bug to the gk-developers list and within a
day or two they (actually Chih-Wei Huang) confirmed the issue and has
committed a fix to the 2_0 branch of cvs for those, like me, who can't
wait.  I tried it and it now works.  For those who can wait, it should
be fixed in v2.03 of gnugk.


On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 20:30, Marc Williams wrote:
> Sadly, the new 2.02 version of gnugk, while perhaps fixing Joachim's
> problem, does _not_ fix the issue I had previously reported.  I just got
> through building gnugk 2.02 and with one test, I can tell you that the
> problem still exists the same as it was for version 2.00.
> 
> Namely, 
> 1) GM can call GM and everything works.
> 2) NM can call NM and everything works.
> 2) GM can call NM and everything works.
> 3) NM can call GM and only audio works.  No video.
> 
> I'll be reporting this to the gk lists soon.
> 


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Thanks a lot!!!


Le mar 03/12/2002 à 16:53, Marc Williams a écrit :
> As promised, I reported this bug to the gk-developers list and within a
> day or two they (actually Chih-Wei Huang) confirmed the issue and has
> committed a fix to the 2_0 branch of cvs for those, like me, who can't
> wait.  I tried it and it now works.  For those who can wait, it should
> be fixed in v2.03 of gnugk.
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 20:30, Marc Williams wrote:
> > Sadly, the new 2.02 version of gnugk, while perhaps fixing Joachim's
> > problem, does _not_ fix the issue I had previously reported.  I just got
> > through building gnugk 2.02 and with one test, I can tell you that the
> > problem still exists the same as it was for version 2.00.
> > 
> > Namely, 
> > 1) GM can call GM and everything works.
> > 2) NM can call NM and everything works.
> > 2) GM can call NM and everything works.
> > 3) NM can call GM and only audio works.  No video.
> > 
> > I'll be reporting this to the gk lists soon.
> > 
> 
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Hi all;


Could all people owning a Quicknet card and subscribed to this mailing
list mail me ?

That would be very kind to test the latest changes so that the next
release can be very stable.

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% *** Willem Kuiters <wkuiters@free.fr> wrote: ***
% On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 03:03:21PM +0000, antoine wrote:
% > Sorry but :-) : How to do go to a IRC channel and do a IRC chat ?
% > antoine
% 
% Shame on you Antoine ! Google "irc linux" and read your way through. Use
% the chat client that goes with Mozilla if you like. I find it easy to use.
% 

If you don't know which IRC client is used for Linux, try 'irssi' and/or
irssi-gtk for graphical mode.

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Hi,
I try to update gnomemeeting
----------------------------
5.2.1. Compile PWlib
 You have to compile PWlib that way:
tar xvzf pwlib_x.x.x.tar.gz
$ export PWLIBDIR=3D<the directory where you extracted pwlib>
$ cd $PWLIBDIR
$ make opt
$ cp -d $PWLIBDIR/lib/*so* /usr/lib
$ ln -s /usr/lib/libpt_linux_x86_r.so.x.x.x /usr/lib/libpt.so
----------------
5.2.2. Compile OpenH323
 You have to compile OpenH323 that way:=20
$ tar xvzf openh323_x.x.x.tar.gz
$ export OPENH323DIR=3D<the directory where you extracted OpenH323>
$ cd $OPENH323DIR
$ make opt
$ cp -d $OPENH323DIR/lib/*so* /usr/lib
$ ln -s /usr/lib/libh323_linux_x86_r.so.x.x.x /usr/lib/libopenh323.so
----------------------
So I do exactly what is write up and receive this answer
when I want to compile :
-----------------
[root@localhost opt]# cd $PWLIBDIR
[root@localhost pwlib]# make both
make/ptlib.mak:41: pwlib/make/unix.mak: Aucun fichier ou r=E9pertoire de =
ce type
make/ptlib.mak:42: pwlib/make/common.mak: Aucun fichier ou r=E9pertoire d=
e ce=20
type
make: *** Pas de r=E8gle pour fabriquer la cible `pwlib/make/common.mak'.=
 Arr=EAt.
------------------------------
and the both :  "pwlib/make/unix.mak" , "pwlib/make/common.mak" :  exists=
 !

What can happen ?

I try with The RPM Red-Hat files gnomemeetingn 0.95 , pwlib, openH323 ...=
 :
they need a lot of dependencies ...

Is it possible to update gnomemeeting ? :-)

antoine






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Hi all!

I wrote a few weeks back with a sound conflict problem. I took
everyone's advice and managed to install ALSA on my system. ALSA is now
apparently working, but the sound quality when I try to call my partner
is bad at her end. She says she only hears every second word and the
quality sounds like I'm underwater!

I'm on a cable connection using Gnome 2 on top of Mandrake 9 with a
Soundbaster PCI128 sound card and Logitech Quickcam. My partne is on a
56k modem connection using NetMeeting (with the MS-GSM codec). We have
both used NetMeeting successfully, so her connection seems to be able to
support reasonable video and audio connections.

So, is my problem that:

a) OpenH323 doesn't deal well with low bandwidth? That is, it's not my
problem, really, but a downer. 

b) I don't have ALSA installed correctly? Damien said that ALSA can deal
with the full-duplex problem of the SoundBlaster PCI128, but do I need
to configure any options to do that? Also, although draksound tells me
that I'm using the ALSA sound system, I'm not sure that I'm using the
ALSA devices. GnomeMeeting tells me that my audio player is
dev/sound/dsp, mixer is dev/mixer, audio recorder is dev/sound/dsp, and
recorder mixer is dev/mixer. Does that sound right? 

c) Should I kill ESD? I tried that this morning but the video
disappeared!

d) I'm running GAIM at the same time, but with sound disabled. We use
GAIM so that she can give me her IP address (she has dynamic IP
addressing). Could GAIM be conflicting?

It's a big ask, but I'd like to test my setup with someone on a cable
connection using GnomeMeeting or NetMeeting with MS-GSM enabled, to see
whether the sound is as bad in that case. If you've got some time and a
willingness to help a newbie (new to linux and GM, but not entirely
clueless), please let me know. 

Until anon,

Sean

-- 
E. Sean Rintel
Communication Department
University at Albany, SUNY
Albany, NY, 12222, USA
http://www.albany.edu/~er8430




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On Tuesday 03 December 2002 19:21, antoine wrote:
> Hi,
> I try to update gnomemeeting
> ----------------------------
> 5.2.1. Compile PWlib
>  You have to compile PWlib that way:
> tar xvzf pwlib_x.x.x.tar.gz
> $ export PWLIBDIR=3D<the directory where you extracted pwlib>
> $ cd $PWLIBDIR
> $ make opt
> $ cp -d $PWLIBDIR/lib/*so* /usr/lib
> $ ln -s /usr/lib/libpt_linux_x86_r.so.x.x.x /usr/lib/libpt.so
> ----------------
> 5.2.2. Compile OpenH323
>  You have to compile OpenH323 that way:
> $ tar xvzf openh323_x.x.x.tar.gz
> $ export OPENH323DIR=3D<the directory where you extracted OpenH323>
> $ cd $OPENH323DIR
> $ make opt
> $ cp -d $OPENH323DIR/lib/*so* /usr/lib
> $ ln -s /usr/lib/libh323_linux_x86_r.so.x.x.x /usr/lib/libopenh323.so
> ----------------------
> So I do exactly what is write up and receive this answer
> when I want to compile :
> -----------------
> [root@localhost opt]# cd $PWLIBDIR
> [root@localhost pwlib]# make both
> make/ptlib.mak:41: pwlib/make/unix.mak: Aucun fichier ou r=E9pertoire d=
e ce
> type make/ptlib.mak:42: pwlib/make/common.mak: Aucun fichier ou r=E9per=
toire
> de ce type
> make: *** Pas de r=E8gle pour fabriquer la cible `pwlib/make/common.mak=
'.
> Arr=EAt. ------------------------------
> and the both :  "pwlib/make/unix.mak" , "pwlib/make/common.mak" :  exis=
ts !
>Hello

What are you compiling for? Depending on your distribution, download the=20
needed RPMs from http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3D5&pos=3D0
Download them to your home directory. Move all three RPMs into an empty=20
directory on your desktop. If it doesn't exist, make it (right click on e=
mpty=20
desktop  > "Create new..." > "Directory". Call it -say- RPM. Change your=20
working directory: type  (without the quotation marks) "cd RPM". The prom=
pt=20
will then change accordingly. Type "su" (no quotation marks). You'll be a=
sked=20
for your root password. Type it in. The prompt will change, probably to #=
=2E=20
Type "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" (no quotation marks). All three RPMs will be then=20
installed.
Good luck.
Pablo

> What can happen ?
>
> I try with The RPM Red-Hat files gnomemeetingn 0.95 , pwlib, openH323 .=
=2E. :
> they need a lot of dependencies ...
>
> Is it possible to update gnomemeeting ? :-)
>
> antoine
>
>
>
>
>
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From julien.puydt@netpratique.fr  Tue Dec  3 14:37:56 2002
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Le mar 03/12/2002 à 18:44, E. Sean Rintel a écrit :
> Hi all!
> 
> I wrote a few weeks back with a sound conflict problem. I took
> everyone's advice and managed to install ALSA on my system. ALSA is now
> apparently working, but the sound quality when I try to call my partner
> is bad at her end. She says she only hears every second word and the
> quality sounds like I'm underwater!

This sounds more like bad settings for your bandwith. If you want good
sound, decrease the video quality (either by having less good images, or
fewer).

> I'm on a cable connection using Gnome 2 on top of Mandrake 9 with a
> Soundbaster PCI128 sound card and Logitech Quickcam. My partne is on a
> 56k modem connection using NetMeeting (with the MS-GSM codec). We have
> both used NetMeeting successfully, so her connection seems to be able to
> support reasonable video and audio connections.

56k modem connection => really decrease video quality if you want good
sound.

> So, is my problem that:
> 
> a) OpenH323 doesn't deal well with low bandwidth? That is, it's not my
> problem, really, but a downer. 

Low bandwith needs very good codecs ; you can't use speex with a
netmeeting client, and unless you have money, the other good codecs
aren't available for gnomemeeting.

> b) I don't have ALSA installed correctly? Damien said that ALSA can deal
> with the full-duplex problem of the SoundBlaster PCI128, but do I need
> to configure any options to do that? Also, although draksound tells me
> that I'm using the ALSA sound system, I'm not sure that I'm using the
> ALSA devices. GnomeMeeting tells me that my audio player is
> dev/sound/dsp, mixer is dev/mixer, audio recorder is dev/sound/dsp, and
> recorder mixer is dev/mixer. Does that sound right? 

I don't think so.

> c) Should I kill ESD? I tried that this morning but the video
> disappeared!

I don't see why killing esd would cause video problems...

> d) I'm running GAIM at the same time, but with sound disabled. We use
> GAIM so that she can give me her IP address (she has dynamic IP
> addressing). Could GAIM be conflicting?

I don't think so, unless you're sending very long messages very fast ;
then you may be able to eat your friend's bandwith.
You know, if you both register to ils.seconix.com, you won't have to
send your ip one another...

> It's a big ask, but I'd like to test my setup with someone on a cable
> connection using GnomeMeeting or NetMeeting with MS-GSM enabled, to see
> whether the sound is as bad in that case. If you've got some time and a
> willingness to help a newbie (new to linux and GM, but not entirely
> clueless), please let me know. 

Please, come on irc.gnome.org, channel #gnomemeeting. You may then find
other users looking for testing, or ready to help.

Snark on #gnomemeeting
-- 
PUYDT Julien <julien.puydt@netpratique.fr>


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> What are you compiling for? Depending on your distribution, download th=
e
> needed RPMs from http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3D5&pos=3D0
> Download them to your home directory. Move all three RPMs into an empty
> directory on your desktop. If it doesn't exist, make it (right click on
> empty desktop  > "Create new..." > "Directory". Call it -say- RPM. Chan=
ge
> your working directory: type  (without the quotation marks) "cd RPM". T=
he
> prompt will then change accordingly. Type "su" (no quotation marks). Yo=
u'll
> be asked for your root password. Type it in. The prompt will change,
> probably to #. Type "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" (no quotation marks). All three RP=
Ms
> will be then installed.
> Good luck.
> Pablo
_______________________________________________
Hi,
I made exactly what you wrote up, creating a new directory "gnomeeting"  =
under=20
my home directory :
and I receive this answer below ... :
grrrr .. :-)
antoine
------
[root@localhost gnomeeting]# ls
gnomemeeting-0.85.1-3.i386.rpm  gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386.rpm =20
pwlib-1.3.11-1.i386.rpm
gnomemeeting-0.93.1-4.src.rpm   openh323-1.9.10-4.i386.rpm
[root@localhost gnomeeting]# rpm -Uvh *.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
        GConf2 >=3D 1.2.0 is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libart_lgpl_2.so.2   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libbonobo-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libbonobo-activation.so.4   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libbonoboui-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgconf-2.so.4   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgnome-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgnomecanvas-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgnomeui-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgnomevfs-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        liblinc.so.1   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libORBit-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libstdc++.so.5   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
        libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
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        pwlib =3D 1.2.12 is needed by pwlib-devel-1.2.12-3
        openh323 =3D 1.8.0 is needed by openh323-devel-1.8.0-3
------------------------


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You have to upgrade those libs, or install a newer version of your
distribution which seems to be a bit outdated.


Le mer 04/12/2002 à 11:54, antoine a écrit :
> > What are you compiling for? Depending on your distribution, download the
> > needed RPMs from http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=5&pos=0
> > Download them to your home directory. Move all three RPMs into an empty
> > directory on your desktop. If it doesn't exist, make it (right click on
> > empty desktop  > "Create new..." > "Directory". Call it -say- RPM. Change
> > your working directory: type  (without the quotation marks) "cd RPM". The
> > prompt will then change accordingly. Type "su" (no quotation marks). You'll
> > be asked for your root password. Type it in. The prompt will change,
> > probably to #. Type "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" (no quotation marks). All three RPMs
> > will be then installed.
> > Good luck.
> > Pablo
> _______________________________________________
> Hi,
> I made exactly what you wrote up, creating a new directory "gnomeeting"  under 
> my home directory :
> and I receive this answer below ... :
> grrrr .. :-)
> antoine
> ------
> [root@localhost gnomeeting]# ls
> gnomemeeting-0.85.1-3.i386.rpm  gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386.rpm  
> pwlib-1.3.11-1.i386.rpm
> gnomemeeting-0.93.1-4.src.rpm   openh323-1.9.10-4.i386.rpm
> [root@localhost gnomeeting]# rpm -Uvh *.rpm
> error: failed dependencies:
>         GConf2 >= 1.2.0 is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libart_lgpl_2.so.2   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libbonobo-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libbonobo-activation.so.4   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libbonoboui-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgconf-2.so.4   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnome-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnomecanvas-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnomeui-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnomevfs-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         liblinc.so.1   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libORBit-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libstdc++.so.5   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libstdc++.so.5   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libstdc++.so.5   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         pwlib = 1.2.12 is needed by pwlib-devel-1.2.12-3
>         openh323 = 1.8.0 is needed by openh323-devel-1.8.0-3
> ------------------------
> 
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Is Gnome2 installed in your system? GnomeMeeting 0.9x requires Gnome 2=20
libraries.
On Wednesday 04 December 2002 11:54, antoine wrote:
> > What are you compiling for? Depending on your distribution, download =
the
> > needed RPMs from http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3D5&pos=3D=
0
> > Download them to your home directory. Move all three RPMs into an emp=
ty
> > directory on your desktop. If it doesn't exist, make it (right click =
on
> > empty desktop  > "Create new..." > "Directory". Call it -say- RPM. Ch=
ange
> > your working directory: type  (without the quotation marks) "cd RPM".=
 The
> > prompt will then change accordingly. Type "su" (no quotation marks).
> > You'll be asked for your root password. Type it in. The prompt will
> > change, probably to #. Type "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" (no quotation marks). Al=
l
> > three RPMs will be then installed.
> > Good luck.
> > Pablo
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hi,
> I made exactly what you wrote up, creating a new directory "gnomeeting"=
=20
> under my home directory :
> and I receive this answer below ... :
> grrrr .. :-)
> antoine
> ------
> [root@localhost gnomeeting]# ls
> gnomemeeting-0.85.1-3.i386.rpm  gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386.rpm
> pwlib-1.3.11-1.i386.rpm
> gnomemeeting-0.93.1-4.src.rpm   openh323-1.9.10-4.i386.rpm
> [root@localhost gnomeeting]# rpm -Uvh *.rpm
> error: failed dependencies:
>         GConf2 >=3D 1.2.0 is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libart_lgpl_2.so.2   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libbonobo-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libbonobo-activation.so.4   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libbonoboui-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgconf-2.so.4   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnome-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnomecanvas-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnomeui-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libgnomevfs-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         liblinc.so.1   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libORBit-2.so.0   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libstdc++.so.5   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>         libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-=
3
>         libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libstdc++.so.5   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
>         libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libgcc_s.so.1   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libstdc++.so.5   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
>         pwlib =3D 1.2.12 is needed by pwlib-devel-1.2.12-3
>         openh323 =3D 1.8.0 is needed by openh323-devel-1.8.0-3
> ------------------------
>
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Hi all,


A new mailing list has been created for dicussion related to the
development of GnomeMeeting (new features, bugs, patches, fixes,
enhancements, documentation, translations,...). All people wanting to
contribute to development of GnomeMeeting are welcome to subscribe to
this new mailing list at :
http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-devel-list

=> if you are interested to help in the development of GnomeMeeting in a
way or another, please subscribe :)

The current mailing list will of course continue to exist for user
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the development of GnomeMeeting but to its usage.

-- 
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isplitting the list and putting most of the programming/debugging on 
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Hi,

how do I switch on the ability to dock gnomemeeting into the taskbar under
KDE 3.0.3? In 0.85 there used to be a tick I could make in preferences I
think. If I click "start hidden" gnomemeeting doesn't show up anywhere at
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I compiled gnomemeeting 0.94.1 from scratch under Redhat 7.3, i.e.
non-gnome2.

Robert


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Hi !

Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2002 13:42 schrieb Robert Schmidt:

> how do I switch on the ability to dock gnomemeeting into the taskbar un=
der
> KDE 3.0.3? In 0.85 there used to be a tick I could make in preferences =
I
> think. If I click "start hidden" gnomemeeting doesn't show up anywhere =
at
> all.

The gnomemeeting docklet doesn't work in kde 3.0.x because it's a new typ=
e of=20
docklet. It will work in kde 3.1 (which was to be released tomorrow, but =
had=20
to be delayed).

Matthias Marks (aka matti on #gnomemeeting)

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Hi everybody.

I have recently installed FreeBSD 4.7 on my PC with
MSI 6330 using integrated sound via VT82C686B.
I add "device pcm" in my kernel and the sound work
very well MP3,video etc...

The problem is that when i use Gnomemeeting, I can
hear my freind but it seems that there is nothing sent
on the internet when i'm talking.

Gnomemeeting gives me only this devices : /dev/dsp0.3
(which exist in the /dev

It's not a firewall probleme because i don't use it
(crazy boy !)

Could someone give me help about this ?


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Have you tried to record to make sure that your microphone works
correctly?
The fact that other applications work proves that playback s working,
but that doesn't prove that :
- your audio driver is able to do full-duplex (playing and recording at
the same time)
- your microphone is working and volumes are ok.

Hope it helps,


Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 15:58, LEZIN Lo a écrit :
> Hi everybody.
> 
> I have recently installed FreeBSD 4.7 on my PC with
> MSI 6330 using integrated sound via VT82C686B.
> I add "device pcm" in my kernel and the sound work
> very well MP3,video etc...
> 
> The problem is that when i use Gnomemeeting, I can
> hear my freind but it seems that there is nothing sent
> on the internet when i'm talking.
> 
> Gnomemeeting gives me only this devices : /dev/dsp0.3
> (which exist in the /dev
> 
> It's not a firewall probleme because i don't use it
> (crazy boy !)
> 
> Could someone give me help about this ?
> 
> 
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Damien Sandras wrote:

>Have you tried to record to make sure that your microphone works
>correctly?
>The fact that other applications work proves that playback s working,
>but that doesn't prove that :
>- your audio driver is able to do full-duplex (playing and recording at
>the same time)
>- your microphone is working and volumes are ok.
>
>Hope it helps,
>  
>

Thanks a lot for your help.

But in fact it's very strange :

cat /dev/sndstat gives me :

pcm0: <VIA VT82C686A> at io 0xdc00 irq 11 (1p/1r/0v channels duplex)

So can i think that this means that sound card is full duplex ?

I don't know how to test record and listen a the same time :-( How can i 
test it ?
In fact i  tested it with 'dd' but the sound had a low level and was 
absolutely disgusting.

I have put the mixer to 100:100 (with wmix i'm using windowmaker with no 
GNOME installed.Just the things necessary for gnomemeeting to work. I 
have used the 'ports' methode) for all but nothing more happens.




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Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 16:23, LEZIN Lo a écrit :

> 
> Thanks a lot for your help.
> 
> But in fact it's very strange :
> 
> cat /dev/sndstat gives me :
> 
> pcm0: <VIA VT82C686A> at io 0xdc00 irq 11 (1p/1r/0v channels duplex)
> 
> So can i think that this means that sound card is full duplex ?

Yes, but that doesn't mean that the driver is full-duplex.

> 
> I don't know how to test record and listen a the same time :-( How can i 
> test it ?

First try to record with rec -d /dev/dsp myfile.wav
of course, change /dev/dsp to your device.

Then, something like cat /dev/dsp > /dev/dsp should echo everything of
what you say.

> In fact i  tested it with 'dd' but the sound had a low level and was 
> absolutely disgusting.
> 

That is bad news. Under Linux, ALSA users have a switch to enable the
Mic Boost and have a better recording volume. I don't know if ALSA
exists for FreeBSD but I doubt so.

> I have put the mixer to 100:100 (with wmix i'm using windowmaker with no 
> GNOME installed.Just the things necessary for gnomemeeting to work. I 
> have used the 'ports' methode) for all but nothing more happens.
> 

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>
>
>Yes, but that doesn't mean that the driver is full-duplex.
>  
>
HOHO ! so how to know if it is full duplex?

>First try to record with rec -d /dev/dsp myfile.wav
>of course, change /dev/dsp to your device.
>  
>
Sorry what is the package which contains "rec" ?

>Then, something like cat /dev/dsp > /dev/dsp should echo everything of
>what you say.
>  
>
I tried it but nothing happens ...Does it means that it's not full-duplex ?
So where can i find a full duplex drivers for it ? And how can i install 
it if it exist ?

Thanks you for support


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Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 16:52, LEZIN Lo a écrit :
> >


> HOHO ! so how to know if it is full duplex?
> 

Testing or driver doc should tell.

> >
> Sorry what is the package which contains "rec" ?
> 

Sox on linux.

> I tried it but nothing happens ...Does it means that it's not full-duplex ?


Most probably :(

> So where can i find a full duplex drivers for it ? And how can i install 
> it if it exist ?

I don't know for FreeBSD. In that case, for linux, the solution is to
install ALSA from www.alsa-project.org .
Another solution is to buy a webcam with an internal microphone (like
Philips ToUCam Pro) and use the soundcard only for playback.

> 
> Thanks you for support

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> From: Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
> Sender: gnomemeeting-list-admin@gnome.org
> Date: 05 Dec 2002 16:35:08 +0100
> 
> Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 16:23, LEZIN Lo a écrit :
> 
> > 
> > Thanks a lot for your help.
> > 
> > But in fact it's very strange :
> > 
> > cat /dev/sndstat gives me :
> > 
> > pcm0: <VIA VT82C686A> at io 0xdc00 irq 11 (1p/1r/0v channels duplex)
> > 
> > So can i think that this means that sound card is full duplex ?
> 
> Yes, but that doesn't mean that the driver is full-duplex.

I have exactly the same problem with FreeBSD 4.7. I see it on three
different systems all running with embedded Intel ICH sound
devices. All are duplex and the drivers claim to be full-duplex. 

> > I don't know how to test record and listen a the same time :-( How can i 
> > test it ?
> 
> First try to record with rec -d /dev/dsp myfile.wav
> of course, change /dev/dsp to your device.

This works fine (as far as I can tell). But when I try to paly back,
the sound is badly garbled! Does what is sometimes called
"motor-boating" and plays back VERY slowly in tenth second (time is an
estimate/guess) intervals, although it is just barely recognizable.

> Then, something like cat /dev/dsp > /dev/dsp should echo everything of
> what you say.

It does, but, like the output of rec(1), it plays back very slowly
like it is playing a tenth second of data, pausing a tenth second and
then playing another tenth second of data. It is just recognizable.

On the other hand, if I use the Gnome Sound Recorder, I can record and
playback just fine. If I play back the .wav file I generated, it
sounds just like when I cat'ed it to /dev/dsp. And, If I play back a
file recored by the Gnome Sound recorder, I hear horrible squawking,
not at all like what I get going the other way.

Clearly there is some sound problem here, but I am very confused by
the conflicting results of my tests. And, when I try to send audio
with GnomeMeeting, I get absolutely no sound, garbled or otherwise.

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
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I have no clue about FreeBSD, but perhaps Roger will answer.


Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 17:18, Kevin Oberman a écrit :
> > From: Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
> > Sender: gnomemeeting-list-admin@gnome.org
> > Date: 05 Dec 2002 16:35:08 +0100
> > 
> > Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 16:23, LEZIN Lo a écrit :
> > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks a lot for your help.
> > > 
> > > But in fact it's very strange :
> > > 
> > > cat /dev/sndstat gives me :
> > > 
> > > pcm0: <VIA VT82C686A> at io 0xdc00 irq 11 (1p/1r/0v channels duplex)
> > > 
> > > So can i think that this means that sound card is full duplex ?
> > 
> > Yes, but that doesn't mean that the driver is full-duplex.
> 
> I have exactly the same problem with FreeBSD 4.7. I see it on three
> different systems all running with embedded Intel ICH sound
> devices. All are duplex and the drivers claim to be full-duplex. 
> 
> > > I don't know how to test record and listen a the same time :-( How can i 
> > > test it ?
> > 
> > First try to record with rec -d /dev/dsp myfile.wav
> > of course, change /dev/dsp to your device.
> 
> This works fine (as far as I can tell). But when I try to paly back,
> the sound is badly garbled! Does what is sometimes called
> "motor-boating" and plays back VERY slowly in tenth second (time is an
> estimate/guess) intervals, although it is just barely recognizable.
> 
> > Then, something like cat /dev/dsp > /dev/dsp should echo everything of
> > what you say.
> 
> It does, but, like the output of rec(1), it plays back very slowly
> like it is playing a tenth second of data, pausing a tenth second and
> then playing another tenth second of data. It is just recognizable.
> 
> On the other hand, if I use the Gnome Sound Recorder, I can record and
> playback just fine. If I play back the .wav file I generated, it
> sounds just like when I cat'ed it to /dev/dsp. And, If I play back a
> file recored by the Gnome Sound recorder, I hear horrible squawking,
> not at all like what I get going the other way.
> 
> Clearly there is some sound problem here, but I am very confused by
> the conflicting results of my tests. And, when I try to send audio
> with GnomeMeeting, I get absolutely no sound, garbled or otherwise.
> 
> R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
> Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
> Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
> E-mail: oberman@es.net			Phone: +1 510 486-8634
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Hi,

With a MDK 9.0 and gnomemeeting  0.95 version,
Gnome 2.0, its working ok.
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I have tested rec -d /dev/dsp while player a mp3 whith xmms... and a get 
an horrible destroyed sound while i record during listening. I mean 
"Sting was not the same as always ..." ;-)

So i think that full-duplex is not implemented in the kernel's default 
drivers.

So does anyone know someting about a full-duplex driver for Freebsd on 
VT82C686C  (or for any other ...to help us)

Or did someone tested ALSA under FreeBSD (if it's possible... ;-)).



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Le Jeudi 5 D=C3=A9cembre 2002 18:46, antoine a =C3=A9crit :
Tu as bien du savoir faire!
Moi cela ne marche pas du tout.
Je suis aussi sous MDK 9, en ADSL, ens standalone (pas de reseau ni firew=
all),
gnome icu marche bien, sendmail, aussi et tout le reste aussi.
Un telnet ils.seconix.com m 389 repond que la connection se fait,=20
Gomemeeting ne repond pas du tout.
je me pose des questions sans r=C3=A9ponse, quelle est ta config logiciel=
le?=20

> Hi,
>
> With a MDK 9.0 and gnomemeeting  0.95 version,
> Gnome 2.0, its working ok.
> antoine
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Hi,

This is an english-speaking mailing list, not a french speaking mailing
list. Moreover, when you have a problem, there are 2 things to do:
- read the FAQ
- if it doesn't work, mail the mailing list in english with a
description of the problem. "GnomeMeeting doesn't answer" (I translated)
doesn't mean anything to me. There are many people on ILS who do not
answer calls, like me for example.

Thanks to be more precise when asking questions, and to use the language
of the mailing list.


Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 21:13, Patrick a écrit :
> Le Jeudi 5 Décembre 2002 18:46, antoine a écrit :
> Tu as bien du savoir faire!
> Moi cela ne marche pas du tout.
> Je suis aussi sous MDK 9, en ADSL, ens standalone (pas de reseau ni firewall),
> gnome icu marche bien, sendmail, aussi et tout le reste aussi.
> Un telnet ils.seconix.com m 389 repond que la connection se fait, 
> Gomemeeting ne repond pas du tout.
> je me pose des questions sans réponse, quelle est ta config logicielle? 

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What possibilities do I have to talk to someone on GM, and at the same time play low music or at least get sound notifications occasionally?
I have learned that GM can't be used with a esd, for a reason I have forgotten. But are there any alternatives? Or will it be possible some other way in the future?
I was told something about soundcards with two dsp (I think that's correct) but I don't have such a card. No way to do this on software level?

Hakon




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Sorry if this is slightly off-topic ...

I'm trying to set up my creative webcam (ct6840) on freebsd 4.7-RELEASE. It 
seems to be working ok - apps like 'vid' can take a snap.

Unfortunately gnomemeeting only lets me choose between /dev/bktr and 
/dev/meteor for the camera device, and my cam identifies itself as ugen0 
(just the generic usb device). Looking at the man pages for bktr and meteor, 
neither of these would seem suitable.

The best I could think of was to try making /dev/bktr0 a symbolic link to 
/dev/ugen0, but that didn't work.

Looking through google, it seems a few other people have had this problem 
too. Unfortunately noone seemed to have an answer.

Cheers in advance

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Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 19:14, Hakon G a écrit :
> What possibilities do I have to talk to someone on GM, and at the same time play low music or at least get sound notifications occasionally?

No way, and it would be very unpolite ;-)

> I have learned that GM can't be used with a esd, for a reason I have forgotten. But are there any alternatives? Or will it be possible some other way in the future?
> I was told something about soundcards with two dsp (I think that's correct) but I don't have such a card. No way to do this on software level?
> 

It will work when someone will implement dynamic output to esd and
artsdsp in pwlib, or when Gnome and KDE will finally choose a common
sound daemon.


> Hakon

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Hi Pete

> Unfortunately gnomemeeting only lets me choose between /dev/bktr and
> /dev/meteor for the camera device

That is because these are the only devices you can use. :-(

FreeBSD does not have device drivers for any USB cameras and so
GnomeMeeting cannot grab live video from them.

The 'vid' program works because it has chunks of the linux ov511 driver
embedded in.

So right now, there is no way to do anything with GnomeMeetin and USB
cameras.

Roger



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Hi there

Can you try someting for me on your FreeBSD box.

1) built the ohphone application from the Ports tree
(or compile from source if you want)

2) make a call from ohphone with the -t option
This enables tracing.
eg ohphone -n -t remote.server.name


The trace lots are printed on screen. See if there is a line which says
 codec.cxx (nnn) Codec  Read truncated frame of raw data. Wanted xxx and got
yyy

If you see this error message (like I do) then it is showing up a bug in the
audio drivers.
If you do get this, I can chat to Cameron and Orion (the sound driver
developers)#
and try and get a fix.
I've also got a fix for the pwlib library which works around this kernel
bug.

Roger
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gnomemeeting --debug=1 
should have the same effect...



Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 22:19, Roger Hardiman a écrit :
> Hi there
> 
> Can you try someting for me on your FreeBSD box.
> 
> 1) built the ohphone application from the Ports tree
> (or compile from source if you want)
> 
> 2) make a call from ohphone with the -t option
> This enables tracing.
> eg ohphone -n -t remote.server.name
> 
> 
> The trace lots are printed on screen. See if there is a line which says
>  codec.cxx (nnn) Codec  Read truncated frame of raw data. Wanted xxx and got
> yyy
> 
> If you see this error message (like I do) then it is showing up a bug in the
> audio drivers.
> If you do get this, I can chat to Cameron and Orion (the sound driver
> developers)#
> and try and get a fix.
> I've also got a fix for the pwlib library which works around this kernel
> bug.
> 
> Roger
> --
> Roger Hardiman
> roger@freebsd.org
> FreeBSD, OpenH323 and GnomeMeeting projects.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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Le Jeudi 5 D=E9cembre 2002 21:23, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
Vous m'en voyez fort marri !
C'est bien la premi=E8re fois que ma langue maternelle m'exposait =E0 un =
reproche!=20
Je refuse de parler l'anglais (je ne connais que le latin et le grec=20
ancien!...)
J'ai l'honneur de vous saluer.

Patrick Castero ar Haliguen
Bretagne, France=20

(Si c'est cela l'europe...)

> Hi,
>
> This is an english-speaking mailing list, not a french speaking mailing
> list. Moreover, when you have a problem, there are 2 things to do:
> - read the FAQ
> - if it doesn't work, mail the mailing list in english with a
> description of the problem. "GnomeMeeting doesn't answer" (I translated=
)
> doesn't mean anything to me. There are many people on ILS who do not
> answer calls, like me for example.
>
> Thanks to be more precise when asking questions, and to use the languag=
e
> of the mailing list.
>
> Le jeu 05/12/2002 =E0 21:13, Patrick a =E9crit :
> > Le Jeudi 5 D=E9cembre 2002 18:46, antoine a =E9crit :
> > Tu as bien du savoir faire!
> > Moi cela ne marche pas du tout.
> > Je suis aussi sous MDK 9, en ADSL, ens standalone (pas de reseau ni
> > firewall), gnome icu marche bien, sendmail, aussi et tout le reste au=
ssi.
> > Un telnet ils.seconix.com m 389 repond que la connection se fait,
> > Gomemeeting ne repond pas du tout.
> > je me pose des questions sans r=E9ponse, quelle est ta config logicie=
lle?


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Le Jeudi 5 D=C3=A9cembre 2002 20:13, Patrick a =C3=A9crit :
> Le Jeudi 5 D=C3=A9cembre 2002 18:46, antoine a =C3=A9crit :
> Tu as bien du savoir faire!
> Moi cela ne marche pas du tout.
> Je suis aussi sous MDK 9, en ADSL, ens standalone (pas de reseau ni
> firewall), gnome icu marche bien, sendmail, aussi et tout le reste auss=
i.
> Un telnet ils.seconix.com m 389 repond que la connection se fait,
> Gomemeeting ne repond pas du tout.
> je me pose des questions sans r=C3=A9ponse, quelle est ta config logici=
elle?
-----------------------------------
>> Hi,
> > > With a MDK 9.0 and gnomemeeting  0.95 version,
> > Gnome 2.0, its working ok.
> > antoine
--------------------------
STRANGE !
it works pretty good with MDK 9.0 and GM 0.95 ... with no particular=20
configuration to do ...
tell us what are your preferences in the config menu of GM ?
bye
antoine

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Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 21:49, Patrick a écrit :
> Le Jeudi 5 Décembre 2002 21:23, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> Vous m'en voyez fort marri !
> C'est bien la première fois que ma langue maternelle m'exposait à un reproche! 
> Je refuse de parler l'anglais (je ne connais que le latin et le grec 
> ancien!...)
> J'ai l'honneur de vous saluer.
> 
> Patrick Castero ar Haliguen
> Bretagne, France 
> 
> (Si c'est cela l'europe...)

Europe is respecting others, respecting others means trying to speak in
their language and not considering France as the center of the world.
You are sending a mail in french to a mailing list where more than 98%
of the subscribers won't understand anything.
If you are "refusing" to speak english, then don't mail.


-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2002 21:49 schrieb Patrick:
> Le Jeudi 5 D=E9cembre 2002 21:23, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> Vous m'en voyez fort marri !
> C'est bien la premi=E8re fois que ma langue maternelle m'exposait =E0 u=
n
> reproche! Je refuse de parler l'anglais (je ne connais que le latin et =
le
> grec ancien!...)
> J'ai l'honneur de vous saluer.
>
> Patrick Castero ar Haliguen
> Bretagne, France
>
> (Si c'est cela l'europe...)

Ich verstehe =FCberhaupt nicht, worum es hier geht...

Matti

P.S. SCNR ;)

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Le Jeudi 5 D=E9cembre 2002 20:49, Patrick a =E9crit :
> Le Jeudi 5 D=E9cembre 2002 21:23, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> Vous m'en voyez fort marri !
> C'est bien la premi=E8re fois que ma langue maternelle m'exposait =E0 u=
n
> reproche! Je refuse de parler l'anglais (je ne connais que le latin et =
le
> grec ancien!...)
> J'ai l'honneur de vous saluer.
> Patrick Castero ar Haliguen
> Bretagne, France
> (Si c'est cela l'europe...)
>Patrick <castero@free.fr>
------------------
> (je ne connais que le latin et le > grec ancien!...)
and the french  too ... I see.
baaah, to speak english is not a shame ... there are a lot of common poin=
ts=20
between la Bretagne de France and Great Britain , that belongs to Europe =
=2E..
Why do you refuse to speak the living Shakespeare's language ?
latin and old greek are "dead" languages !
antoine

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Hejsa allesammen

Jeg synes I alle er helt forkerte på den! Hverken engelsk eller fransk
er særligt smukke sprog, og jeg nægter derfor at tale eller skrive på
disse sprog.

Derfor vil jeg opfordre verdens befolkning til at udelukkende tale
dansk, og hvis ikke... ja, så må I sgu sejle i jeres egen sø!

O.k. islandsk, norsk og tildels svensk kan vel accepteres :)

Farvel!

-- 
Kenneth Rohde Christiansen <kenneth@gnu.org>

(Btw, please consider all this as a big joke)


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A question:

i am using gnomemeeting, but my camera chipset is Divio NW801, i can't find its driver for linux.
Does Anybody keep the driver?  please give me one ,thank you!

and i want to change a camera which has the linux driver , but i don't know which one can have this , if you are using, please tell me the information so i can go to buy it, thanks!
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On Fri, 06 Dec 2002 09:14:01 +0800
truename <faithdongmei@sina.com> wrote:

> A question:
> 
> i am using gnomemeeting, but my camera chipset is Divio NW801, i can't
> find its driver for linux. Does Anybody keep the driver?  please give
> me one ,thank you!

Google is Your friend :-) http://nw802.sourceforge.net/

> and i want to change a camera which has the linux driver , but i don't
> know which one can have this , if you are using, please tell me the
> information so i can go to buy it,
> thanks!

I recomend You philips webcams which are great supported under linux
:-)) More info is avaible at: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/

				Artur

-- 
Zawsze kiedy jest problem, jest jakie¶ rozwi±zanie;
 zatem je¶li nie ma rozwi±zania, nie ma problemu.

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Hi all:
    I am using gnomemeeting under RH7.2. The video chip in my USB webcam is Divio NW802. 
    I downloadded the sourcecode of its driver from  sourceforge.com. The compilation was OK and the modules were inserted successfully. GM also has no problem to find the dev and open it. But the problem is that there is nothing grabbed. Only GM logo's on the screen.
    I changed the image format and compiled again but this won't help either.
    I am really mad about this. Could anyone help? Any advice is welcome. 

Thanks in advance                                
                                                Forest



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Le ven 06/12/2002 à 02:31, Saint Forest a écrit :
> Hi all:
>     I am using gnomemeeting under RH7.2. The video chip in my USB webcam is Divio NW802. 
>     I downloadded the sourcecode of its driver from  sourceforge.com. The compilation was OK and the modules were inserted successfully. GM also has no problem to find the dev and open it. But the problem is that there is nothing grabbed. Only GM logo's on the screen.
>     I changed the image format and compiled again but this won't help either.
>     I am really mad about this. Could anyone help? Any advice is welcome. 
> 
> Thanks in advance                                

We could perhaps give a hint if you give the error message. Without
error message it is hard to help·

More generally, you can read this:
http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3&pos=0#AEN291


Most probably that your webcam driver doesn't support the video format
and colors required by gnomemeeting.
-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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This is probably a stupid question but comes from someone that knows 
little about Linux
but wants to know a little more ...

The gnomemeeting-latest and gnomemeeting-2002-12-... files under 
http://www.gnomemeeting.org/admin/downloads/latest/snapshots/ don't have 
the
configure file .How are they installed?

Tank you .

J.Pedro


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I just installed Gnomemeeting on SuSE 8.1 - It seems to connect to directory, 
but I can't see any listings of other people - it just says I have to 
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Le ven 06/12/2002 à 01:28, Rob Tow a écrit :
> I just installed Gnomemeeting on SuSE 8.1 - It seems to connect to directory, 
> but I can't see any listings of other people - it just says I have to 
> register - but I thought the set-up tool registered me?
> 

You have to fill in your details in the configuration assistant when
GnomeMeeting starts.

Another way to do it is to fill in your Details in Personal Data in the
preferences, then to go in the Directories section and to "Enable
Registering" below the text entry where ils.seconix.com is displayed.

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Hello,

if you are new to Linux, perhaps it is not a good idea to try to compile
gnomemeeting from CVS, you will also need to take latest stable versions
of openh323 and pwlib on openh323.org/bin

If you still want to do it, autogen.sh behaves exactly the same as
configure, just run it like you would run configure.

Le ven 06/12/2002 à 01:07, João Pedro a écrit :
> This is probably a stupid question but comes from someone that knows 
> little about Linux
> but wants to know a little more ...
> 
> The gnomemeeting-latest and gnomemeeting-2002-12-... files under 
> http://www.gnomemeeting.org/admin/downloads/latest/snapshots/ don't have 
> the
> configure file .How are they installed?
> 
> Tank you .
> 
> J.Pedro
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
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Hi,
   I'm using gm with a Swyx gatekeeper/gateway software, and a quicknet PCI 
internet linejack. 
Local calls to swyxware clients all have very good quality and a medium (1/2 
second) delay. But when I call someone outside (through the gateway) the 
incoming sound (i.e. that from outside to GM) sounds fine, but the outgoing 
(from GM to outside).
How can i check which codecs are used ? I did try to disable all low bandwith 
codecs, but same result.
Also, i don't think that the gateway is the problem, because i have a Siemens 
TA1100 right here, which is basicly GM+quicknet in hardware, a POTS to VoIP 
converter, which only speeks H.323 and works perfectly fine with swxy.

Any ideas ?

TIA,
    Michael
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You can check what codec is used in the "General History".
The best to use when you have a Quicknet card is G.723.1.


Le ven 06/12/2002 à 09:36, Michael Glauche a écrit :

> Hi,
>    I'm using gm with a Swyx gatekeeper/gateway software, and a quicknet PCI 
> internet linejack. 
> Local calls to swyxware clients all have very good quality and a medium (1/2 
> second) delay. But when I call someone outside (through the gateway) the 
> incoming sound (i.e. that from outside to GM) sounds fine, but the outgoing 
> (from GM to outside).
> How can i check which codecs are used ? I did try to disable all low bandwith 
> codecs, but same result.
> Also, i don't think that the gateway is the problem, because i have a Siemens 
> TA1100 right here, which is basicly GM+quicknet in hardware, a POTS to VoIP 
> converter, which only speeks H.323 and works perfectly fine with swxy.
> 
> Any ideas ?
> 

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Am Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 10:54 schrieb Damien Sandras:
> You can check what codec is used in the "General History".
> The best to use when you have a Quicknet card is G.723.1.
>

11:13:30 Calling 09200xxx
11:13:31 Attaching lid hardware to codec
11:13:31 Started New Logical Channel...
11:13:31 Receiving G.723.1{hw}
11:13:31 Attaching lid hardware to codec
11:13:31 Started New Logical Channel...
11:13:31 Sending G.723.1{hw}
11:13:31 Disabled silence detection for G.723.1{hw}
11:13:46 Fast start enabled
11:13:46 H.245 Tunnelling disabled
11:13:46 Connected with 09200415  using Swyx IpPbxSrv	4.01 
11:14:01 Remote party has cleared the call
11:14:01 Call duration: 00:00:15


so, i'm using G.723.1, but the sending qualtiy is still very bad. they say the 
sound is hacked into chucks .., no constant sending. Silence detection is 
disabled. 
Is there any way to regulate volume on the quicknet device ? I allways hear 
the remote party way too loud ...

regards,
        Michael

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Hello,

I run SuSE 8 with ALSA v0.9.0rc3 installed. Soundcard is a via 686. Recog=
nized=20
audio devices are 0: VIA82C686A (DUPLEX) and 1:USB Audio; recognized mixe=
rs=20
are 0: ICEnsemble ICE1232 and 1:USB Mixer.=20

I've succesfully upgraded to Gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3. Video is perfect. Whe=
n=20
answering an incoming call, I am able to get incoming sound only. When tr=
ying=20
to call someone at ils.seconix.com, I get the following error message:
"Could not open audio channel for audio transmission (soundcard busy?)=20
Disabling audio transmission."  I use a Philips ToUCam: devices are set t=
o:
Audio Player: /dev/dsp0
Player Mixer: /dev/mixer0
Audio Recorder: /dev/dsp1
Recorder Mixer: /dev/mixer1
Doing cat /dev/dsp1 > /dev/dsp0 works flawlessly.
I use KDE. aRts is not enabled, and snd-mixer-oss, snd-pcm-oss and audio=20
modules are already installed.
When launching GM, I get the following modprobe messages:

Dec  5 23:02:07 linux modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-=
3
Dec  5 23:02:07 linux modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module=20
sound-service-3-3
Dec  5 23:08:05 linux kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout

When I received these messages, I'd already applied the fix that SuSE's=20
Support Database provides for the timeout problem.=20
Any ideas? Thanks for your help.

Pablo Ortuzar



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Le ven 06/12/2002 à 11:16, Michael Glauche a écrit :
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
> 

> 
> so, i'm using G.723.1, but the sending qualtiy is still very bad. they say the 
> sound is hacked into chucks .., no constant sending. Silence detection is 
> disabled. 


Do they have a good jitter buffer?

> Is there any way to regulate volume on the quicknet device ? I allways hear 
> the remote party way too loud ...
> 

Perhaps is it a volume problem in that case, I have not implemented a
way yet to change the volume. It will be done soon :)

> regards,
>         Michael

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What module are you using for the ToUCam microphone?
snd-usb-audio?

If it is the case, unload it and use the standard audio kernel module
instead (modprobe 'audio').


Le ven 06/12/2002 à 11:39, Pablo Ortúzar a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> I run SuSE 8 with ALSA v0.9.0rc3 installed. Soundcard is a via 686. Recognized 
> audio devices are 0: VIA82C686A (DUPLEX) and 1:USB Audio; recognized mixers 
> are 0: ICEnsemble ICE1232 and 1:USB Mixer. 
> 
> I've succesfully upgraded to Gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3. Video is perfect. When 
> answering an incoming call, I am able to get incoming sound only. When trying 
> to call someone at ils.seconix.com, I get the following error message:
> "Could not open audio channel for audio transmission (soundcard busy?) 
> Disabling audio transmission."  I use a Philips ToUCam: devices are set to:
> Audio Player: /dev/dsp0
> Player Mixer: /dev/mixer0
> Audio Recorder: /dev/dsp1
> Recorder Mixer: /dev/mixer1
> Doing cat /dev/dsp1 > /dev/dsp0 works flawlessly.
> I use KDE. aRts is not enabled, and snd-mixer-oss, snd-pcm-oss and audio 
> modules are already installed.
> When launching GM, I get the following modprobe messages:
> 
> Dec  5 23:02:07 linux modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-3
> Dec  5 23:02:07 linux modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module 
> sound-service-3-3
> Dec  5 23:08:05 linux kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
> 
> When I received these messages, I'd already applied the fix that SuSE's 
> Support Database provides for the timeout problem. 
> Any ideas? Thanks for your help.
> 
> Pablo Ortuzar
> 
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Am Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 11:57 schrieb Damien Sandras:
> Le ven 06/12/2002 =E0 11:16, Michael Glauche a =E9crit :
> >
> > so, i'm using G.723.1, but the sending qualtiy is still very bad. they
> > say the sound is hacked into chucks .., no constant sending. Silence
> > detection is disabled.
>
> Do they have a good jitter buffer?

I guess so, as all other clients (even the old TA1100 i did mention b4) wor=
k=20
very well ..
GM's jitter buffer is set to :
minimal: 20
maximal: 500

GSM Frames/Packet: 5
G.711 Frames/Packet: 30

Any way i could get more info about this ? tcpdump ?

Also, this happens in local net, with nearly no traffic, everything switche=
d,=20
ping time to the gateway 0,3 ms ...=20

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Le ven 06/12/2002 à 12:02, Michael Glauche a écrit :

> I guess so, as all other clients (even the old TA1100 i did mention b4) work 
> very well ..
> GM's jitter buffer is set to :
> minimal: 20
> maximal: 500
> 
> GSM Frames/Packet: 5
> G.711 Frames/Packet: 30
> 
> Any way i could get more info about this ? tcpdump ?
> 

I don't think it would help. Can you try with ohphone to see if it is
GnomeMeeting specific or OpenH323 specific?

> Also, this happens in local net, with nearly no traffic, everything switched, 
> ping time to the gateway 0,3 ms ... 
> 

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Other info you could provide is:
- is the sound quality bad too when you are not using the gateway and
directly connecting to another client? If the sound quality is bad only
when you are using the gateway, then it must be due to an
incompatibility of the gateway with GM/OpenH323. In that case I could
ask for advice to Equivalence.

- are you sure it is not simply a question of recording volume?


> 
> I don't think it would help. Can you try with ohphone to see if it is
> GnomeMeeting specific or OpenH323 specific?
>  
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Am Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 14:35 schrieb Damien Sandras:
> Other info you could provide is:
> - is the sound quality bad too when you are not using the gateway and
> directly connecting to another client? If the sound quality is bad only
> when you are using the gateway, then it must be due to an
> incompatibility of the gateway with GM/OpenH323. In that case I could
> ask for advice to Equivalence.

did wrote so in original email :P gm to local client is very good, with 1/2 
sec lag.

> - are you sure it is not simply a question of recording volume?

yes. that would be distortion, not hacked voice ..


> > I don't think it would help. Can you try with ohphone to see if it is
> > GnomeMeeting specific or OpenH323 specific?

I'll try later ...

regards,
       Michael


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Roger,

Eureka! It finally works! This one line hack did the trick.

Thanks for all of your help. Now I just need a camera and to try to
remember to re-apply the patch when openh323 is updated!

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
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> From: "Roger Hardiman" <roger@telepresence.dmem.strath.ac.uk>
> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 08:33:46 -0000
> 
> Hi
> 
> > I built both from the ports. (Of course, that is from sources.) I did
> > not install the packages.
> 
> Great.
> 
> oh, just a quick question. Do you have ESD or ARTS running - these are the
> sound daemons in
> gnome and kde and interfere with recording (and playback)
> 
> Now, for the patch
> Ok. What you need to do is recompile pwlib and then ohphone and gnomemeeting
> with a small change
> 
> lets do this...
> 1) cd /usr/ports/net/gnomemeeting
> 2) make clean
> 3) cd /usr/orts/net/ohphone
> 4) make clean
> 5) cd /usr/ports/net/openh323
> 6) make clean
> 7) make patch
> (this patches the source, but does not compile it)
> 8) edit the file work/pwlib/src/ptlib/unix/oss.cxx
> 9) look for the function (the method)
>   BOOL PSoundChannel::Read(...) {
> 
> In this code is a like this
>   if (lastReadCount != len)
> 
> 10) Now add the hack.
> Add a new line of code immediatly before the if (lastReadCount != len) line
> and put
>    lastReadCount = len;
> 
> 11) compile the openh323 port
> 12) compile the ohphone port
> 13) compile the gnomemeeting port
> 
> 
> 
> Roger
> 
> 

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Ok, Damien

I followed your advice and went for the gnomemeeting-0.94.2.tar.gz at 
0.94.2... dir
but still no success...
First  I have to state that I already experimented version 0.94.1 from
 gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386.rpm but I just wanted to upgrade and see the 
changes ...
I'm using Linux version 2.4.19 (root@peterpan) (gcc version 3.2 20020903 
(Red Hat Linux 8.0 3.2-7)),
openh323-1.9.10-4 and pwlib-1.3.11-1.

I tried the  ./configure from gnomemeeting-0.94.2 dir and it reported 
some missing libs and
probably pkgconfig not being installed .I checked and the libs where 
there and pkgconfig was not,
so I downloaded and decompressed pkgconfig-0.14.0.tar.gz and run 
./configure from it's dir .
I noticed a few "...no  " from the output and checked it out :
checking for working aclocal-1.4... missing
checking for working autoconf... missing
checking for working automake-1.4... missing
checking for working autoheader... missing
checking for working makeinfo... missing

So, I installed autoconf-2.53-8 and automake-1.6.3-1 from the rpm's in 
the distro cd's
( I didn't find rpm's for the others ) and run config again .
Here is the same part afterwords :

checking for working aclocal-1.4... missing
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake-1.4... missing
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... missing
 
( I realize it looks for automake-1.4... and I installed 1.6.3 ... )

I think this is why, after configure, make and make install the only .pc 
files
I have in the system is gnome-mime-data-2.0.pc at /usr/lib/pkgconfig and 
therefore
configuring  gnomemeeting isn't working .
Here's the last part of the output :

checking for pkg-config... /usr/local/bin/pkg-config
checking for libgnomeui-2.0 >= 1.112.0 linc >= 0.5.0 libbonobo-2.0 >= 
2.0.0 esound >= 0.2.28... Pack      age libgnomeui-2.0 was not found in 
the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libgnomeui-2.0.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'libgnomeui-2.0' found

configure: error: Library requirements (libgnomeui-2.0 >= 1.112.0 linc 
 >= 0.5.0 libbonobo-2.0 >= 2.0      .0 esound >= 0.2.28) not met; 
consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your 
li      braries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.

How would I adjust the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable and would 
that solve the problem?
The mentioned libraries are all installed from the distro rpm's in the 
/usr/lib dir ...

I would appreciate a little help .

Thanks .

P.S. : If you need the full output from configuring pkgconfig let me 
know and I'll post it
right away .


Damien Sandras wrote:

>Hello,
>
>if you are new to Linux, perhaps it is not a good idea to try to compile
>gnomemeeting from CVS, you will also need to take latest stable versions
>of openh323 and pwlib on openh323.org/bin
>
>If you still want to do it, autogen.sh behaves exactly the same as
>configure, just run it like you would run configure.
>
>Le ven 06/12/2002 à 01:07, João Pedro a écrit :
>  
>
>>This is probably a stupid question but comes from someone that knows 
>>little about Linux
>>but wants to know a little more ...
>>
>>The gnomemeeting-latest and gnomemeeting-2002-12-... files under 
>>http://www.gnomemeeting.org/admin/downloads/latest/snapshots/ don't have 
>>the
>>configure file .How are they installed?
>>
>>Tank you .
>>
>>J.Pedro
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
>>GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
>>http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
>>    
>>
>
>
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>




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On Friday 06 December 2002 00:29, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Le ven 06/12/2002 à 01:28, Rob Tow a écrit :
> > I just installed Gnomemeeting on SuSE 8.1 - It seems to connect to
> > directory, but I can't see any listings of other people - it just says I
> > have to register - but I thought the set-up tool registered me?
>
> You have to fill in your details in the configuration assistant when
> GnomeMeeting starts.
>
> Another way to do it is to fill in your Details in Personal Data in the
> preferences, then to go in the Directories section and to "Enable
> Registering" below the text entry where ils.seconix.com is displayed.

I have done both of the above, and it still does not work.

Do I need to fill in the gatekeeper ID? Right now it is on automatic discover 
- and there is an error message on start-up that says "no gatekeeper found".

I do get the message in the history log "Successfully registerd to ILS 
directory ilsseconix.com, port 389"


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Le ven 06/12/2002 à 16:35, João Pedro a écrit :
> Ok, Damien
> 
> I followed your advice and went for the gnomemeeting-0.94.2.tar.gz at 
> 0.94.2... dir
> but still no success...

I think you are not in the right directory.
You should use binary packages from the download section on the website.
Choose "Download" on the left.


> First  I have to state that I already experimented version 0.94.1 from
>  gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386.rpm but I just wanted to upgrade and see the 
> changes ...
> I'm using Linux version 2.4.19 (root@peterpan) (gcc version 3.2 20020903 
> (Red Hat Linux 8.0 3.2-7)),
> openh323-1.9.10-4 and pwlib-1.3.11-1.
> 
> I tried the  ./configure from gnomemeeting-0.94.2 dir and it reported 
> some missing libs and


Don't use 0.94.2, it never existed really, it was there by mistake.
Use either 0.94.1 stable, or CVS, ie the nightly snapshot.


> checking for pkg-config... /usr/local/bin/pkg-config
> checking for libgnomeui-2.0 >= 1.112.0 linc >= 0.5.0 libbonobo-2.0 >= 
> 2.0.0 esound >= 0.2.28... Pack      age libgnomeui-2.0 was not found in 
> the pkg-config search path.
> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libgnomeui-2.0.pc'
> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
> No package 'libgnomeui-2.0' found
> 
> configure: error: Library requirements (libgnomeui-2.0 >= 1.112.0 linc 
>  >= 0.5.0 libbonobo-2.0 >= 2.0      .0 esound >= 0.2.28) not met; 
> consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your 
> li      braries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
> 
> How would I adjust the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable and would 
> that solve the problem?


No it means that the mentionned libraries are not installed.

> The mentioned libraries are all installed from the distro rpm's in the 
> /usr/lib dir ...
> 


You probably installed the libs in binary form, but not the devel rpms.
You also need the devel rpms to be able to compile.

If you have redhat 8.0, a RPM of the nightly snapshot is available on
request on irc.gnome.org, #gnomemeeting.


> I would appreciate a little help .
> 
> Thanks .
> 
> P.S. : If you need the full output from configuring pkgconfig let me 
> know and I'll post it
> right away .
> 
> 
> Damien Sandras wrote:
> 
> >Hello,
> >
> >if you are new to Linux, perhaps it is not a good idea to try to compile
> >gnomemeeting from CVS, you will also need to take latest stable versions
> >of openh323 and pwlib on openh323.org/bin
> >
> >If you still want to do it, autogen.sh behaves exactly the same as
> >configure, just run it like you would run configure.
> >
> >Le ven 06/12/2002 à 01:07, João Pedro a écrit :
> >  
> >
> >>This is probably a stupid question but comes from someone that knows 
> >>little about Linux
> >>but wants to know a little more ...
> >>
> >>The gnomemeeting-latest and gnomemeeting-2002-12-... files under 
> >>http://www.gnomemeeting.org/admin/downloads/latest/snapshots/ don't have 
> >>the
> >>configure file .How are they installed?
> >>
> >>Tank you .
> >>
> >>J.Pedro
> >>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> >>GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> >>http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> 
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Le ven 06/12/2002 à 17:57, Rob Tow a écrit :

> 
> I have done both of the above, and it still does not work.
> 

Try to upgrade GnomeMeeting and see if it fixes the problem.
I think Suse 8.1 is still shipping with an antic GnomeMeeting version.

> Do I need to fill in the gatekeeper ID? Right now it is on automatic discover 
> - and there is an error message on start-up that says "no gatekeeper found".
> 

No need to fill in Gatekeeper if you don't have a H.323 Gatekeeper on
your LAN.

> I do get the message in the history log "Successfully registerd to ILS 
> directory ilsseconix.com, port 389"
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Hi,
When I start "gnomemeeting", connnected on internet,
the first image appears and all is stalled ,  I cannot stop
gnomemeeting ... only by kill -9 n=B0 ps !
If I open Gnomemeeting, internet disconnected, all the windows open
normally.
quid ?
thanks
antoine

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Hi,
> When I start "gnomemeeting", connnected on internet,
> the first image appears and all is stalled ,  I cannot stop
> gnomemeeting ... only by kill -9 n=B0 ps !
> If I open Gnomemeeting, internet disconnected, all the windows open
> normally.
> quid ?
> thanks
> antoine
-----------------------------------------
and now :
-----
(gnomemeeting:2029): Gtk-CRITICAL **: file ../../gtk/gtktextbuffer.c: lin=
e 476=20
(gtk_text_buffer_emit_insert): assertion `g_utf8_validate (text, len, NUL=
L)'=20
failed
------------------
when i send a message ...

thanks

antoine



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I suggest you to go on irc.gnome.org, #gnomemeeting, people there will
help you to make GnomeMeeting work for you forever :)


Le ven 06/12/2002 à 18:41, antoine a écrit :
> Hi,
> When I start "gnomemeeting", connnected on internet,
> the first image appears and all is stalled ,  I cannot stop
> gnomemeeting ... only by kill -9 n° ps !
> If I open Gnomemeeting, internet disconnected, all the windows open
> normally.
> quid ?
> thanks
> antoine
> _______________________________________________
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> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
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I deleted Gnomemeeting, and re-installed it from the web site. Several 
libraries needed to be (re)installed, too (this was for SuSE 8.1). Now it 
works.

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Hello all,

I've just compiled successfully the Quicknet linux driver for for the
PHONEJACK-PCI card (ixj.o and phonedev.o).

I've installed the Gnomemeeting CVS (nightly snapshot, v0.95) from packages in
.deb format. Thank you very much for giving .deb packages for Debian
users like me.

My question is how to configure the Quicknet card on Gnomemeeting Menu ?
Here is what I did:

  - go to "Edit > Preferences" to get the GM menu configuration popup,
  - go to "Audio codecs", disable all codecs proposed in list,
  
  - get down to "Device > Audio",
  - in the section "Quicknet Device", I enable "* Use the Quicknet Device"

So, 
  - is it normal that, in the section "Audio Devices",

       Audio Player is still pointed to /dev/dsp , and
     Audio Recorder is still pointed to /dev/dsp
 
  - another question, where should I define the codec G.723.1 which is
    used for the Quicknet card ? If it's in the codecs sections, I don't
    find it. I know that all codecs are built directly onto the
    Quicknet card.


Thank you very much for your helps,

Truong

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Le sam 07/12/2002 à 19:24, Truong a écrit :
> Hello all,
> 
> I've just compiled successfully the Quicknet linux driver for for the
> PHONEJACK-PCI card (ixj.o and phonedev.o).
> 
> I've installed the Gnomemeeting CVS (nightly snapshot, v0.95) from packages in
> .deb format. Thank you very much for giving .deb packages for Debian
> users like me.
> 
> My question is how to configure the Quicknet card on Gnomemeeting Menu ?
> Here is what I did:
> 
>   - go to "Edit > Preferences" to get the GM menu configuration popup,
>   - go to "Audio codecs", disable all codecs proposed in list,
>   
>   - get down to "Device > Audio",
>   - in the section "Quicknet Device", I enable "* Use the Quicknet Device"
> 
> So, 
>   - is it normal that, in the section "Audio Devices",
> 
>        Audio Player is still pointed to /dev/dsp , and
>      Audio Recorder is still pointed to /dev/dsp

Yes, a Quicknet device is something different. Audio Player and Audio
Recorder are Soundcard related.

>  
>   - another question, where should I define the codec G.723.1 which is
>     used for the Quicknet card ? If it's in the codecs sections, I don't
>     find it. I know that all codecs are built directly onto the
>     Quicknet card.

It is automatic, when you are using a Quicknet card, the code G.723.1 is
implicitely chosen.

> 
> 
> Thank you very much for your helps,
> 
> Truong
> 
> --
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% *** Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> wrote: ***

% > So, 
% >   - is it normal that, in the section "Audio Devices",
% > 
% >        Audio Player is still pointed to /dev/dsp , and
% >      Audio Recorder is still pointed to /dev/dsp
% 
% Yes, a Quicknet device is something different. Audio Player and Audio
% Recorder are Soundcard related.
% 
% >  
% >   - another question, where should I define the codec G.723.1 which is
% >     used for the Quicknet card ? If it's in the codecs sections, I don't
% >     find it. I know that all codecs are built directly onto the
% >     Quicknet card.
% 
% It is automatic, when you are using a Quicknet card, the code G.723.1 is
% implicitely chosen.
% 

Ok, no need to configure the codecs for Quicknet cards.

As in a mail on the list relied to subject concerning the codecs for
Quicknet, you said about G.723.1 choosen for Quicknet card. I thought I
should define it somewhere from the GM menu. That was why my questions
in the last mail.

Thanks again,

Truong

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peace and love ?

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Yeah! Peace and love!=20
It was a very old ideas for beatniks in old sixties!
Since we have a monster whose name is Europe! It seems that it will be, =
today, (perhaps?) to speak french, italian or spanish and so on! Et =
pourtant, j'aime "Beaucoup de bruit pour rien...",  Verdi, Frederico =
Garcia Lorca, et les primitifs Flamants! Quelle richesse ce pays! Et =
maintenat nous avons Linux pour notre plus grand plaisir =E0 tous!!! Pas =
beau cela?  (A redmond on n'aime pas du tout! Dommage!)

But, when i see the quality of gomemeeting and linux, the question to =
Damien Sandras, and the analysis,  i think that=20
qu'il est vraiment dommage de chicaner car nous avons l=E0 l'avenir...

En attendant, chez moi, Gnomemeeting ne marche toujours pas  malgr=E9 =
une etude approfondie de la FAQ, de la config... Etc.
un telnet me permet de voir qu'il y a un serveur au bout. Par contre, =
gnomemeeting ne me permet pas de me logger. Je suis sous ADSL par free. =
Je parierais que la cause est l=E0. Bizarre cependant, car gnomeicu =
fonctionne tres bien.
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English translation here after:

Ce n'est pas chicaner. Tu poses une question en français, donc seuls les
utilisateurs francophones de la mailing list (quelque pourcents) sont
donc à même de t'aider.
En posant la question en anglais, tu t'exposes à plus de chance d'avoir
une réponse. A toi de voir.

Quand je vais à l'étranger, faire une conférence par exemple, je
m'adapte, je ne fais pas la conférence en français dans un pays où
personne ne parle le français. C'est pareil ici sur la mailing list.

Pour terminer, tu ne donnes aucune info sur ton problème, il y a fort à
parier que personne ne pourra donc t'aider. Débugger un problème pas par
une description précise et détaille de ce qui ne fonctionne pas de ce
que tu fais pour y arriver, dans une langue comprise par ceux qui sont
susceptibles de t'aider.

J'ignorerai personellement les messages suivants en français par respect
pour les gens qui ne comprennent pas cette langue et sont inscrits ici.
--
Translation :

You are asking a question in french, so only french users on the mailing
list (only a few percent) could help you. By asking your question in
englis, you would increase the change for your problem to be solved. It
is up to you to see what you prefer.

Moreover, you are not giving any useful information about your problem,
nobody will be able to help. Debugging and solving a problem begins by a
precise description of the problem itself, in a language understood by
people you are requesting help from.

I will personally ignore the following messages written in french by
respect for people who don't understand this language and are subscribed
to this mailing list.
--

Le lun 09/12/2002 à 15:48, Patrick a écrit :
> Yeah! Peace and love! 
> It was a very old ideas for beatniks in old sixties!
> Since we have a monster whose name is Europe! It seems that it will
> be, today, (perhaps?) to speak french, italian or spanish and so on!
> Et pourtant, j'aime "Beaucoup de bruit pour rien...",  Verdi,
> Frederico Garcia Lorca, et les primitifs Flamants! Quelle richesse ce
> pays! Et maintenat nous avons Linux pour notre plus grand plaisir à
> tous!!! Pas beau cela?  (A redmond on n'aime pas du tout! Dommage!)
>  
> But, when i see the quality of gomemeeting and linux, the question to
> Damien Sandras, and the analysis,  i think that 
> qu'il est vraiment dommage de chicaner car nous avons là l'avenir...
>  
> En attendant, chez moi, Gnomemeeting ne marche toujours pas  malgré
> une etude approfondie de la FAQ, de la config... Etc.
> un telnet me permet de voir qu'il y a un serveur au bout. Par contre,
> gnomemeeting ne me permet pas de me logger. Je suis sous ADSL par
> free. Je parierais que la cause est là. Bizarre cependant, car
> gnomeicu fonctionne tres bien.
> Les premieres versions de gnomemeeting marchaient avec modem classique
> (56k) sous mandrake 8.2
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Quant à Beyrouth, les libanais sont des gens attachants, de caractère,
> ouverts, acceuillants et sympa! Même au pire de leur embêtements, il y
> a vingt ans! C'est cela quand on est fils d'une très
> vieille civilisation. Et en plus ils parlent français!
>  
>  
>  
>         ----- Original Message ----- 
>         From: Hdebaillenx@aol.com
>         To: gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org
>         Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:21 AM
>         Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: gnomemeeting and 0.85
>         version
>         
>         Bonjour la France 
>         
>         C'est clair,  sa rigole pas !!! 
>         C vrai que parler langue en Belgique est plus dangereux que de
>         jouer de la AK47 a Beyrouth !!! 
>         
>         peace and love ? 
>         
>         s@lutations numériques 
>         
>         Hervé 
>         
>         http://membres.lycos.fr/hervedebaillenx/index.htm
>         Tel/Fax        :   01 39 71 72 94 
>         NetMeeting  :   ils.seconix.com 
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Le Lundi 9 D=E9cembre 2002 14:48, Patrick a =E9crit :
> Yeah! Peace and love!
> En attendant, chez moi, Gnomemeeting ne marche toujours pas  malgr=E9 u=
ne
> etude approfondie de la FAQ, de la config... Etc. un telnet me permet d=
e
> voir qu'il y a un serveur au bout. Par contre, gnomemeeting ne me perme=
t
> pas de me logger. Je suis sous ADSL par free. Je parierais que la cause=
 est
> l=E0. Bizarre cependant, car gnomeicu fonctionne tres bien. Les premier=
es
> versions de gnomemeeting marchaient avec modem classique (56k) sous
> mandrake 8.2
---------------------
so, answer in english ... :-)
only the versions >=3D to 0.93 works good with gnomemeeting !
so, which one do you use ?
if < to 0.93, update it.
I had + - similar problems and with 0.95, it's ok and a configuration dir=
ect=20
in line with the master Damien Sandras, who helped me very well !

I add :
in the menu "preferences", don't write characters with accents like : =E9=
, =E0 , =E8=20
=2E.. avoid it, because it makes gnomeeting very instable :
is it a bug, is it posible to correct it ?
If I write my name "Wach=E9" : does not work=20
but "Wache" =3D ok .
gnomemeeting is for english language, but not international, does not lik=
e the=20
accents  :-)
bye
antoine



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Le mar 10/12/2002 à 15:36, antoine a écrit :

> If I write my name "Waché" : does not work 
> but "Wache" = ok .

It was corrected in 0.94.1, only 0.93.1 had that bug:
http://www.gnomemeeting.org/downloads/snapshots/gm-cyr.png

Look to that screenshot to see that internationalisation works very well
:)


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Le Mardi 10 D=E9cembre 2002 17:20, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> Le mar 10/12/2002 =E0 15:36, antoine a =E9crit :
> > If I write my name "Wach=E9" : does not work
> > but "Wache" =3D ok .
> It was corrected in 0.94.1, only 0.93.1 had that bug:
> http://www.gnomemeeting.org/downloads/snapshots/gm-cyr.png
> Look to that screenshot to see that internationalisation works very wel=
l
-------------
sorry !
thanks Damien for this correction .
so I have the 0.93 ...
I have to update too  :-)
antoine Wach=E9


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Hi,
I want to update gnomemeeting 0.93 --> 0.95
i'm under MDK 9.0. and it's the first time I use this distribution.
If I use the classical .RPM files I receive those messages :
-----
rpm -Uvh gnomemeeting ....... .rpm
error: failed dependencies:
        openh323 >=3D 1.9.10-4 is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        pwlib >=3D 1.3.11 is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libcrypto.so.2   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libssl.so.2   is needed by gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
[root@aw local]# rpm -Uvh openh323-1.9.10-4.i386.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
        pwlib >=3D 1.3.11 is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
        libcrypto.so.2   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
        libssl.so.2   is needed by openh323-1.9.10-4
[root@aw local]# rpm -Uvh pwlib-1.3.11-1.i386.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
        libcrypto.so.2   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3)   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libssl.so.2   is needed by pwlib-1.3.11-1
-------------------------------------------
So I want to use "urpmi" and I don't know how to do that ?

Thanks a lot !

antoine Wach=E9

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Hi !

Am Dienstag, 10. Dezember 2002 21:07 schrieb antoine:

> So I want to use "urpmi" and I don't know how to do that ?

put all three rpms into one seperate directory and do a 'urpmi *' ; that =
way=20
all rpms from there plus the other needed rpms are installed.

Matthias Marks (aka matti on #gnomemeeting, irc.gnome.org)


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> So I want to use "urpmi" and I don't know how to do that ?
>antoine Wach=E9
>----------------------
> put all three rpms into one seperate directory and do a 'urpmi *' ; tha=
t
> way all rpms from there plus the other needed rpms are installed.
> Matthias Marks (aka matti on #gnomemeeting, irc.gnome.org)
---------------------------------------
I do what you told me and :
[root@aw local]# urpmi *.rpm
installation de ./openh323-1.9.10-4.i386.rpm ./gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386=
=2Erpm=20
=2E/pwlib-1.3.11-1.i386.rpm
L'installation a =E9chou=E9 :=20
        libcrypto.so.2 est n=E9cessaire =E0 openh323-1.9.10-4
        libssl.so.2 est n=E9cessaire =E0 openh323-1.9.10-4
        libcrypto.so.2 est n=E9cessaire =E0 gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libssl.so.2 est n=E9cessaire =E0 gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
        libcrypto.so.2 est n=E9cessaire =E0 pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3) est n=E9cessaire =E0 pwlib-1.3.11-1
        libssl.so.2 est n=E9cessaire =E0 pwlib-1.3.11-1
----------------
so exactly the same message than with "rpm -Uvh ...." :-)

any idea for another solution

thanks

antoine


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Hi again !

Am Dienstag, 10. Dezember 2002 21:31 schrieb antoine:

> installation de ./openh323-1.9.10-4.i386.rpm
> ./gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3.i386.rpm ./pwlib-1.3.11-1.i386.rpm

It seems you downloaded the rpms for redhat, not for mandrake (mandrake r=
pms=20
have a "mdk" in the name. Here's the direct link to the correct rpms:

http://www.gnomemeeting.org/downloads/0.94.1/mandrake/


Matthias Marks (aka matti on #gnomemeeting, irc.gnome.org)



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Le Mardi 10 D=E9cembre 2002 21:46, Matthias Marks a =E9crit :
> It seems you downloaded the rpms for redhat, not for mandrake (mandrake
> rpms have a "mdk" in the name. Here's the direct link to the correct rp=
ms:
> http://www.gnomemeeting.org/downloads/0.94.1/mandrake/
> Matthias Marks
--------------
hi,
it works for the install.
-------
but now , with the GM 0.94, I have problems with the sound card :
I receive a message : "the audio is already in use, audio will be stopped=
".
but it's difficult on seconix 's users to find somebody free to make a te=
st .
thanks
antoine



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Le mer 11/12/2002 =E0 09:30, antoine a =E9crit :
> Le Mardi 10 D=E9cembre 2002 21:46, Matthias Marks a =E9crit :
> > It seems you downloaded the rpms for redhat, not for mandrake (mandrake
> > rpms have a "mdk" in the name. Here's the direct link to the correct rp=
ms:
> > http://www.gnomemeeting.org/downloads/0.94.1/mandrake/
> > Matthias Marks
> --------------
> hi,
hi antoine,

> it works for the install.
nice,

> -------
> but now , with the GM 0.94, I have problems with the sound card :
> I receive a message : "the audio is already in use, audio will be stopped=
".
are you using KDE (and artsd)?
if yes you should try to pause or stop the artsd sound daemon before
launching GnomeMeeting.

> but it's difficult on seconix 's users to find somebody free to make a te=
st.
I think you should find someone free for a test more easily on
irc.gimpnet.org #gnomemeeting.
> thanks
> antoine

hope this help.

Fabrice

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> are you using KDE (and artsd)?
> if yes you should try to pause or stop the artsd sound daemon before
> launching GnomeMeeting.
> Fabrice
------------------------
i'm on KDE.
artsd : I don't know ...
How to know that ?
I saw in the "daemons" services
no "artsd" are here !
but "atrsd" seems loaded at boot.
so how to pause or stop it
If I want to make a record sound with my micro,
the recording has a very bad quality ...
it worked quite well before with GM 0.93 ...
thanks
antoine


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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 11:13, antoine a écrit :

> i'm on KDE.
> artsd : I don't know ...
> How to know that ?

ps ax for example

> I saw in the "daemons" services
> no "artsd" are here !

artsd is not a standard daemon

> but "atrsd" seems loaded at boot.
> so how to pause or stop it
> If I want to make a record sound with my micro,
> the recording has a very bad quality ...
> it worked quite well before with GM 0.93 ...

You probably changed something else. Installing GnomeMeeting doesn't
influence the recording of the micro with other programs, Linux is not
Windows (fortunately) ;)

> thanks
> antoine
> 
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hi,

-I see in my processus (ps aux) that 6 gnomemeeting are
open. is it normal ?
----
-when I cut a connection after a too long wait, I cannot connect on a use=
r=20
again.
I have to close the GM window and I have to "killall gnomemeeting" becaus=
e the
processus are always open ...
-----
-I decided to come back to the .093 version, but the difficulties are=20
the same above than with the 0.94 !

thanks

antoine



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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 14:27, antoine a écrit :
> -I see in my processus (ps aux) that 6 gnomemeeting are
> open. is it normal ?

Yes, that's what is call a thread. You have 6 threads.

> ----
> -when I cut a connection after a too long wait, I cannot connect on a user 
> again.
> I have to close the GM window and I have to "killall gnomemeeting" because the
> processus are always open ...

That is not normal, I don't understand what you are doing.

> -----
> -I decided to come back to the .093 version, but the difficulties are 
> the same above than with the 0.94 !
> 

That is not normal either. You had a perfectly working configuration
this WE after we helped you during a long time. You probably changed
things in your configuration since that moment.

> thanks
> 
> antoine
> 

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Hi, I was quite rudely called back after submitting a gnomemeeting
enhancement proposal to the bugzilla with the enhancement flag set. The
person said I should send them here. Just to check, is this correct?

Thanks,
Robert

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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 15:42, Robert Schmidt a écrit :
> Hi, I was quite rudely called back after submitting a gnomemeeting
> enhancement proposal to the bugzilla with the enhancement flag set. The
> person said I should send them here. Just to check, is this correct?
> 

Hello Robert,

Actually I think that you can request enhancements on bugzilla, but we
prefer to discuss those enhancements on the gnomemeeting-devel-list that
has been created on this purpose and keep bugzilla for bugs.

Here is how things should be working:
- gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org : User problems
- gnomemeeting-devel-list@gnome.org : Development discussions, including
features enhancements, and so on
- bugzilla : bug reports

However, Bugzilla permits to report enhancements and several people are
reporting them on Bugzilla. We didn't make it clear yet on website how
we would like things to work. Our apologies about that.
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Hi !

Am Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2002 15:42 schrieb Robert Schmidt:
> Hi, I was quite rudely called back after submitting a gnomemeeting
> enhancement proposal to the bugzilla with the enhancement flag set. The
> person said I should send them here. Just to check, is this correct?

Yes, this is the right place :-)

Matthias Marks (aka matti on #gnomemeeting, irc.gnome.org)

P.S. My callback would have been a bit more polite ;-), but he's right th=
at it=20
isn't a bug...

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We prefer to discuss new features in one of the mailing list (developers
list is better in any case).
I've read your bug report, but it's not very clear to me want to really
mean.
Could you please elaborate?

PD: All ideas are welcome, please don't mind rudeness, nobody was rude
to you on purpose... (it's just that we are not very good english
speakers ;) )

El mi=C3=A9, 11-12-2002 a las 15:42, Robert Schmidt escribi=C3=B3:
> Hi, I was quite rudely called back after submitting a gnomemeeting
> enhancement proposal to the bugzilla with the enhancement flag set. The
> person said I should send them here. Just to check, is this correct?
>=20
> Thanks,
> Robert
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list

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Hi,

	I know GnomeMeeting DOESN'T support Remote Desktop sharing like Netmeeting
does, but are there any plans to or does anyone know of any Linux clients
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Thanks in advance.



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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 16:07, Jean-Claude Gervais a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> 	I know GnomeMeeting DOESN'T support Remote Desktop sharing like Netmeeting
> does, but are there any plans to or does anyone know of any Linux clients
> that DO?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 

Currently there are no plans as we prefer to concentrate in pure
videoconferencing and VOIP, but you can use VNC (google) or RDESKTOP
(http://www.rdesktop.org)


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hi,

I think my difficulties, probabely, come from
my modem RTC and not ADSL connection !
because it's seem working better late in the night ...
or when people disconnect their video
(i don't have webcam)

I don't see bad configurations in my gnomemeeting ...
excepted maybe,  sound =3D I cannot record

thanks for people who help me on the GM chat.
-----------------------------------
I try with "netmeeting" of window$ , but netmeeting answers :
no connection possible with netmeeting on :  " ils.seconix.com "

quid ?

antoine

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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 16:17, antoine a écrit :
> hi,
> 
> I think my difficulties, probabely, come from
> my modem RTC and not ADSL connection !
> because it's seem working better late in the night ...
> or when people disconnect their video
> (i don't have webcam)

That could be possible...

> 
> I don't see bad configurations in my gnomemeeting ...
> excepted maybe,  sound = I cannot record
> 

Check your volumes levels with the Gnome or KDE mixers.


> thanks for people who help me on the GM chat.
> -----------------------------------
> I try with "netmeeting" of window$ , but netmeeting answers :
> no connection possible with netmeeting on :  " ils.seconix.com "
> 

There are currently 10 Netmeeting connected to ils.seconix.com => that
should be possible. Anyway, that is more a question for Microsoft
technical support ;)

> quid ?
> 
> antoine
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> Check your volumes levels with the Gnome or KDE mixers.
ok !
-----------------------------------
> > I try with "netmeeting" of window$ , but netmeeting answers :
> > no connection possible with netmeeting on :  " ils.seconix.com "
---------------
> There are currently 10 Netmeeting connected to ils.seconix.com =3D> tha=
t
> should be possible. Anyway, that is more a question for Microsoft
> technical support ;)
----------
yes but strange that some can do that and not me,
but no matter in fact ... i'm not on win$ but it was for a try ..
to compare and understands my difficulties on GM
using netmeeting ...
antoine

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Thanks for the speedy reply, Damien,

The only problem is that RDesktop.org's client software only supports
Windows Terminal Services / Windows XP RDP.
I need something that supports NetMeeting's Remote Desktop sharing, and
unless I am mistaken, they are two different things.
Um, what IS the protocol NetMeeting uses for its Remote Desktop Sharing?

Thanks

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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 16:07, Jean-Claude Gervais a écrit :
> Hi,
>
>       I know GnomeMeeting DOESN'T support Remote Desktop sharing like
Netmeeting
> does, but are there any plans to or does anyone know of any Linux clients
> that DO?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

Currently there are no plans as we prefer to concentrate in pure
videoconferencing and VOIP, but you can use VNC (google) or RDESKTOP
(http://www.rdesktop.org)


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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 16:30, Jean-Claude Gervais a écrit :
> Thanks for the speedy reply, Damien,
> 
> The only problem is that RDesktop.org's client software only supports
> Windows Terminal Services / Windows XP RDP.
> I need something that supports NetMeeting's Remote Desktop sharing, and
> unless I am mistaken, they are two different things.
> Um, what IS the protocol NetMeeting uses for its Remote Desktop Sharing?
> 

A subpart of T.120.

I know no implementation of it on Linux, I think that would be too hard.
But if you want a non-netmeeting desktop sharing software, there is VNC
which works well.

I don't think that GM will one day do remote desktop sharing: "Do one
thing, but do it well", and we want to concentrate on different things
(SIP, MCU, answering machines, ...)

> Thanks
> 

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Le mer 11/12/2002 à 16:19, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> There are currently 10 Netmeeting connected to ils.seconix.com => that
> should be possible. Anyway, that is more a question for Microsoft
> technical support ;)

My father finds it difficult to register on seconix sometimes ; his
solution, of course, is to reboot...

Lately, when he tried to connect to me, nm told him I wasn't able to
communicate...

This is just like my ex-provider, of which 99,99% of the staff thought
internet was a M$ invention, and I shouldn't even think to connect with
a linux...

Some things just put me in bad mood...

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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hi all,
just got gnomemeeting and installed it, but I havn't been able to get it =
to=20
work. I keep getting the message "GnomeMeeting got 0 for the GConf key=20
'/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test_age", but 12 was expected"

I tried runing gnomemeeting-config-tool but it didnt help. Finally I trie=
d
> gconftool-2 --get "/apps/gnomemeeting/general/gconf_test"=20
and
> gconftool-2 --get "/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test"=20
but got "No value set for '/apps/gnomemeeting..'=20

I am running SuSE 8.0 with KDE3 and didn't have any of the gnome libs bef=
ore,=20
but now I downloaded all the required libs as said in the README from you=
r=20
downloads page (rpms are from SuSE's ftp server) and got the gnomemeeting=
 rpm=20
for SuSE from your download page.
This might be something very simple (hopefully) but since I am no gnome u=
ser I=20
really don't know where to start looking for.
I tried=20
>gconftool-2 --get-default-source
and got
>xml::/etc/opt/gnome2/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults
I then looked into that directory and there are two dirs: "apps" and=20
"schemas".  There is a gnomemeeting directory in each of them, each=20
containing a bunch of subdirs like "audio_codecs", "audio_settings", ...=20
"devices",...., "ldap", "personal_data", "view"

I have zero idea of gconf and friends, so any hints as to how to solve th=
is or=20
where to find more info would be great.

thanks

luis

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Am Donnerstag, 12. Dezember 2002 01:55 schrieb Luis De la Parra Blum:
> hi all,
> just got gnomemeeting and installed it, but I havn't been able to get it to
> work. I keep getting the message "GnomeMeeting got 0 for the GConf key
> '/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test_age", but 12 was expected"
>
> I tried runing gnomemeeting-config-tool but it didnt help. Finally I tried
>
> > gconftool-2 --get "/apps/gnomemeeting/general/gconf_test"
>
> and
>
> > gconftool-2 --get "/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test"
>
> but got "No value set for '/apps/gnomemeeting..'
>
> I am running SuSE 8.0 with KDE3 and didn't have any of the gnome libs
> before, but now I downloaded all the required libs as said in the README
> from your downloads page (rpms are from SuSE's ftp server) and got the
> gnomemeeting rpm for SuSE from your download page.

Did you run the SuSEconfig scripts mentioned in the README? Also be sure you 
have installed the latest package which can be found under Downloads, test 
your installation with
$> rpm -q gnomemeeting
this should return gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3

Greetings,

Stefan

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ons 2002-12-11 klockan 15.52 skrev Damien Sandras:
> > Hi, I was quite rudely called back after submitting a gnomemeeting
> > enhancement proposal to the bugzilla with the enhancement flag set. The
> > person said I should send them here. Just to check, is this correct?
> 
> Hello Robert,
> 
> Actually I think that you can request enhancements on bugzilla, but we
> prefer to discuss those enhancements on the gnomemeeting-devel-list that
> has been created on this purpose and keep bugzilla for bugs.

In my opinion, it's useful to have both. Bugzilla is good for keeping
track of things but a bad place to have planning, a mailing list is a
good place to have planning but a bad place to track things. So only
having feature requests on the mailing list is probably bad as it isn't
easy to later find out what actually happened to it after the discussion
died -- was it implemented, will it be implemented at some point, or was
it decided it was a bad idea altogether and will never be implemented?

Thus, I suggest that both are used -- when a feature request appears on
the mailing list, make sure an entry for it is also in bugzilla, and
vice versa. Make sure that you put in a link to the bugzilla bug report
in the mailing list thread, and a link to the mailing list thread in the
bug report. Then continue to have the discussion on the mailing list.
Finally, when there is a consensus or a decision or the discussion died
out some other way, try to do a very short summary of it in the bugzilla
bug report and update the status of the bug report accordingly.

Also, one advantage of also having feature requests also in bugzilla is
that it's easy to point to existing resolutions for some common
requests. If someone asks on the mailing list about why there isn't a
desktop sharing feature for the second time, it's easy to point to the
bugzilla bug report where the decision is summarized (it's usually
easier to search bugzilla than mailing list archives), and avoid having
to have the entire discussion and summarize once again on the mailing
list. If someone put's a "why isn't there a remote desktop feature"
enhancement request in bugzilla, it's easy to make it a duplicate of the
existing bugzilla bug report about the same issue and be done with it.

So bugzilla and the development mailing lists are used complimentary.
Surely most other application teams in GNOME also believe in mailing
list developer discussions, but they also often use bugzilla to track
specific enhancement requests, even though it may be discussed
elsewhere. This is why there is a "enhancement" category to begin with
in bugzilla. :)


Christian



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Le jeu 12/12/2002 à 07:40, Christian Rose a écrit :

I pretty much agree, but if people keep on asking for something gm won't
give, shouldn't it go in the faq, and not in the bugzilla?

I tend to search the faq of a project when I lack something and/or have
a problem with it; searching for known bugs comes only after, if it ever
comes: I've only looked in gm's bugzilla when someone in #gnomemeeting
gave a link... (I prefer going to the debian bts...)

Snark on #gnomemeeting

PS: xchat has a nice feature: when you right-click on a link, you get
the choice to open it in various browsers, in a new window or a new
tab...


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tor 2002-12-12 klockan 08.55 skrev PUYDT Julien:
> I pretty much agree, but if people keep on asking for something gm won't
> give, shouldn't it go in the faq, and not in the bugzilla?

You can do both. That's the beauty of having things in Bugzilla; it's
easy to link to it. You can have a short answer in the FAQ, and also
provide a link to the relevant bugzilla bug where people can read more
about the decision if they are interested, and also see links to the
mailing list thread(s).

"Q: Are there any plans on a foo feature?
A: No. GnomeMeeting is a video conference application only and we are
not planning on extending it with the foo feature, since there are
better and specialized applications that can do that already. For more
details, see <link>bugzilla bug 123456</link>."


Christian



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Am Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 18:13 schrieb Damien Sandras:
> Le ven 06/12/2002 à 17:57, Rob Tow a écrit :
> > I have done both of the above, and it still does not work.

You have pushed the refresh button in the ILS view?

> Try to upgrade GnomeMeeting and see if it fixes the problem.
> I think Suse 8.1 is still shipping with an antic GnomeMeeting version.

8.1 includes Gnome2 and GM 0.93

Greetings,

Stefan
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On Thursday 12 December 2002 04:09, Stefan Bruens wrote:
> Did you run the SuSEconfig scripts mentioned in the README? Also be sur=
e

yes, I did.
I found it a little strange that they ran so fast though...
normally (when you install something with Yast) it takes a little longer,=
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in this case it was "running, reading, executing and finished" extremly f=
ast.=20
either the configuration needed is minimal, or something is not running a=
s it=20
should (?)

> you have installed the latest package which can be found under Download=
s,
> test your installation with
> $> rpm -q gnomemeeting
> this should return gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3
>
yes, gnomemeeting-0.94.1-3

any other ideas how I can check this?
I tried=20
>for i in `ls -R`
 do cat $i|grep gconf_test_age && echo "********************match FOUND i=
n"=20
$i;=20
done
in /etc/opt/gnome2/gconf, but no file seems to contain such a key.
I also tried the gnomemeeting-config-tool, and it says it has installed t=
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I'm new to Gnomemeeting and am trialing it between various other
Gnomemeeting clients: some on the local network, some across a reasonably
good Internet connection (60ms round trip) and beyond.  In every case,
audio quality is terrible.

I am using a Quicknet card and Gnomemeeting is configured to use it.  
Loopback testing indicates that the audio is crystal clear.

People on the other end report that I sound like a chipmunk :-) (which, I
can assure you is not normally the case!)  How can I got about
troubleshooting this?  I looked at the audio codecs and all of them are
selected.  I would all to perform reasonably well, especially on the low
latency connections I am testing it with.

Any ideas?  Thanks,

Ben


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> I'm new to Gnomemeeting and am trialing it between various other
> Gnomemeeting clients: some on the local network, some across a reasonably
> good Internet connection (60ms round trip) and beyond.  In every case,
> audio quality is terrible.
>
> I am using a Quicknet card and Gnomemeeting is configured to use it.
> Loopback testing indicates that the audio is crystal clear.
>
> People on the other end report that I sound like a chipmunk :-) (which, I
> can assure you is not normally the case!)  How can I got about
> troubleshooting this?  I looked at the audio codecs and all of them are
> selected.  I would all to perform reasonably well, especially on the low
> latency connections I am testing it with.
>
> Any ideas?  Thanks,

Hi,
   i have no idea, but a similar problem, outgoing sound though a gatekeeper
with a quicknet card sound terrible, while incoming sound is quite good ..
Unfortunately i have no sollution for this yet ..

regards,
      Michael


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Hi,
 audio quality is influenced by a number of factors:

  1) sound collection device
      a microphone and headphones is best.

  2) Increase your jitter buffer size.

  3)  Select G723.1 codec.

  4) Try lowering your play/record volume a little.


Incidentally, what Quicknet card are you using?

Derek.

==================================================================
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Ben Elliston wrote:

> I'm new to Gnomemeeting and am trialing it between various other
> Gnomemeeting clients: some on the local network, some across a reasonably
> good Internet connection (60ms round trip) and beyond.  In every case,
> audio quality is terrible.
> 
> I am using a Quicknet card and Gnomemeeting is configured to use it.  
> Loopback testing indicates that the audio is crystal clear.
> 
> People on the other end report that I sound like a chipmunk :-) (which, I
> can assure you is not normally the case!)  How can I got about
> troubleshooting this?  I looked at the audio codecs and all of them are
> selected.  I would all to perform reasonably well, especially on the low
> latency connections I am testing it with.
> 
> Any ideas?  Thanks,
> 
> Ben
> 
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> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
> 
> 

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Hi.

>   1) sound collection device
>       a microphone and headphones is best.

Why would I want to use a mic and headphones if I have a Quicknet card 
with echo cancellation?  Isn't that superior?

>   2) Increase your jitter buffer size.

I increased it to 200ms -- enough?

>   3)  Select G723.1 codec.

I don't have a G723.1 codec.  Perhaps I'm using a slightly older version.  
I am using 0.93.1.  Or am I doing something wrong?

> Incidentally, what Quicknet card are you using?

PhoneJACK.

Ben


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Hi,

>   1) sound collection device
>       a microphone and headphones is best.

using a normal phone ... thats the scope of quicknet card, isn't it ? ;)

>   2) Increase your jitter buffer size.

did try to play with it ...

>   3)  Select G723.1 codec.

not there ..

>   4) Try lowering your play/record volume a little.

not aviable .. ;) damian told me that maybe there will be in the next
version

> Incidentally, what Quicknet card are you using?

Internet PhoneJack PCI linux edition

regards,
        Michael


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Le ven 13/12/2002 à 02:00, Ben Elliston a écrit :

> >   3)  Select G723.1 codec.
> 
> I don't have a G723.1 codec.  Perhaps I'm using a slightly older version.  
> I am using 0.93.1.  Or am I doing something wrong?

Yes, Quicknet support is only complete in the CVS version of
GnomeMeeting.

G.723.1 is automaticall selected when you are using the Quicknet card.

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Le ven 13/12/2002 à 16:09, Michael Glauche a écrit :

> >   3)  Select G723.1 codec.
> 
> not there ..
> 

Read my previous post and check the "General History" to see if the
right codec is used. Perhaps your settings select G.711, it was a bug in
the CVS version you tried.

> >   4) Try lowering your play/record volume a little.
> 
> not aviable .. ;) damian told me that maybe there will be in the next
> version

That is implemented in current CVS.

> 
> > Incidentally, what Quicknet card are you using?
> 
> Internet PhoneJack PCI linux edition
> 

Have you tried with ohphone?

> regards,
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> G.723.1 is automaticall selected when you are using the Quicknet card.

OK, that helps, thanks.

Now I am back to using a full-duplex sound card with mic and speakers.  I
have managed to work out that when speaking to a Netmeeting client, my
voice sounds slow and audio sent from the Netmeeting client sounds fast.  
They are agreeing on the uLaw codec.

Any ideas on how to proceed?

Thanks, Ben


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Am Freitag, 13. Dezember 2002 12:09 schrieb Damien Sandras:

> > > Incidentally, what Quicknet card are you using?
> >
> > Internet PhoneJack PCI linux edition
>
> Have you tried with ohphone?

yes, exactly the same problem there. G.723.1{hw} codec is used for sending and 
recieving, but the sending quality is bad, so i guess its an openh323 bug ..

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Using G.711 is perhaps not the best idea. Try to permit ALaw only. Or
better, install the MS-GSM codec for Netmeeting (you can find a patch on
www.gnomemeeting.org).

However, I remember that there were some problems with OpenH323 a while
ago concerning the G.711 codec. I read that you are using GM 0.93 which
is pretty old. I would suggest that you use CVS version with updated
openh323 libraries. If you are using Redhat 8 or Debian, we can provide
you updated packages.


Le ven 13/12/2002 à 12:12, Ben Elliston a écrit :
> > G.723.1 is automaticall selected when you are using the Quicknet card.
> 
> OK, that helps, thanks.
> 
> Now I am back to using a full-duplex sound card with mic and speakers.  I
> have managed to work out that when speaking to a Netmeeting client, my
> voice sounds slow and audio sent from the Netmeeting client sounds fast.  
> They are agreeing on the uLaw codec.
> 
> Any ideas on how to proceed?
> 
> Thanks, Ben
> 
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> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
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Le ven 13/12/2002 à 12:27, Michael Glauche a écrit :
> 
> yes, exactly the same problem there. G.723.1{hw} codec is used for sending and 
> recieving, but the sending quality is bad, so i guess its an openh323 bug ..

In that case I think you should mail openh323@openh323.org , they would
be interested to help to debug that quicknet problem. Using G.723.1{hw}
should always give good quality...
It is a good news for me, but I think that problem should be fixed...


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I'm back in the stuff, guys.
I do have now a much powerfull and useable FW linux box, with a dual
screen switch that let me run XWindow in a much more powerfull way.

I plugged again my philips 740k webcam.
I created again the devices, with user rafa in the group video and
audio.
But It dont function.
could anybody check my rights ?
nexus:/home/rafa# ls -lat /dev/video*
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     video          11 Dec 10 20:48 /dev/video ->
/dev/video0
crw-rw-rw-    1 root     video     81,   0 Dec 10 20:48 /dev/video0
crw-rw-rw-    1 root     video     81,   2 Dec 10 20:41 /dev/video2
crw-rw-rw-    1 root     video     81,   1 Dec 10 20:41 /dev/video1

I didn't find anymore the answer to this question in the FAQ. I remember
it was. I run a plain old woody, with no mix SID/woody right now. I'm
plannig to let gnomemeeting run SID side, in order to run a much up to
date version. So right now, I run GM 0.12.2, that seems to be very old.

Another question absolutly off topic, but I remember that there is much
Debian addicts here: How could I tell apt to get gnomemeeting in sid
package ?
I'll put the answers here if I find it meanwhile.

	Rafa aka Tristan




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Le ven 13/12/2002 à 16:53, Rafael Pinilla a écrit :
> I plugged again my philips 740k webcam.
> I created again the devices, with user rafa in the group video and
> audio.
> But It dont function.

Can you be more precise?


> I didn't find anymore the answer to this question in the FAQ. I remember
> it was. I run a plain old woody, with no mix SID/woody right now. I'm

Such things were removed from the FAQ because we decided to only provide
help about GnomeMeeting on the FAQ and not on generic Linux installation
problems. Audio and video problems are more related to your distribution
than to GnomeMeeting itself.

> plannig to let gnomemeeting run SID side, in order to run a much up to
> date version. So right now, I run GM 0.12.2, that seems to be very old.

Wow! Yes, GnomeMeeting 0.12.2 is more than one year old !

> Another question absolutly off topic, but I remember that there is much
> Debian addicts here: How could I tell apt to get gnomemeeting in sid
> package ?

Change your stable lines to unstable in /etc/apt/sources.list, apt-get
update, apt-get install gnomemeeting .

> I'll put the answers here if I find it meanwhile.
> 
> 	Rafa aka Tristan
> 
> 
> 
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Hi,
 Please do not use mic and speakers.

  The echo canceller in the quicknet cards is not perfect.

 You will find an improvement in quality if you use headphones.

Derek.
============
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Ben Elliston wrote:

> > G.723.1 is automaticall selected when you are using the Quicknet card.
> 
> OK, that helps, thanks.
> 
> Now I am back to using a full-duplex sound card with mic and speakers.  I
> have managed to work out that when speaking to a Netmeeting client, my
> voice sounds slow and audio sent from the Netmeeting client sounds fast.  
> They are agreeing on the uLaw codec.
> 
> Any ideas on how to proceed?
> 
> Thanks, Ben
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
> 
> 

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Ben,

 There are other emails on this list about headphones or speakers.

 In my experience, there has always been an improvement in voice quality 
 when changing from speakers to something else (headphones or handset)

==
As far as jitter buffer size, TRY a bigger value. I have no idea what your 
network latency is. I am not a crystal ball gazing psychic to know what
will work for you.
200 ms "should" be enough, but 400ms will most probably be enough.

Is there any difference in quality (apart from latency) if you switch from 
200 to 400ms?

1000ms will be enough for all but the most patholigical of networks.
TRY different values.

===

Finally, before the various experts on this list criticise the openh323 
code, remember this:
Craig and Robert use openh323 code (plus quicknet cards) to talk all the
time between Australia, England, America and New Zealand. If the code was
faulty, would they fix it? yes. I suggest the problem is elsewhere.

The real check is:
  Do you have the same quality problems if you use ohphone?

There may be a configuration issue for your machine.
Good luck on finding this: you have to battle gconf, the quicknet kernel 
module, library versions, and gnomemeeting versions.


Derek.
=======================
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Ben Elliston wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> >   1) sound collection device
> >       a microphone and headphones is best.
> 
> Why would I want to use a mic and headphones if I have a Quicknet card 
> with echo cancellation?  Isn't that superior?
> 
> >   2) Increase your jitter buffer size.
> 
> I increased it to 200ms -- enough?
> 
> >   3)  Select G723.1 codec.
> 
> I don't have a G723.1 codec.  Perhaps I'm using a slightly older version.  
> I am using 0.93.1.  Or am I doing something wrong?
> 
> > Incidentally, what Quicknet card are you using?
> 
> PhoneJACK.
> 
> Ben
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hi,

I test yesterday with Jeff and Truong and others ... :
-everybody can hear me and very clearly,
-with some I can hear, but with too poor quality,
-with others I can hear but with many cuts,
-and with other I cannot hear ...

my sound card seems ok for configuration.
speakers and micro (for micro test for recording =3D ok)
I have the ATRSD processus.
if I remove ATRSD =3D same !

I use 0.93 GM on MDK 9.0

thanks

Antoine Wach=E9

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We already discussed that problem many times with you, your problem is
simple, you are using PPP.

A ppp connection is not enough to have a good quality. 

Le sam 14/12/2002 à 11:51, antoine a écrit :
> hi,
> 
> I test yesterday with Jeff and Truong and others ... :
> -everybody can hear me and very clearly,
> -with some I can hear, but with too poor quality,
> -with others I can hear but with many cuts,
> -and with other I cannot hear ...
> 
> my sound card seems ok for configuration.
> speakers and micro (for micro test for recording = ok)
> I have the ATRSD processus.
> if I remove ATRSD = same !
> 
> I use 0.93 GM on MDK 9.0
> 
> thanks
> 
> Antoine Waché
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
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Le sam 14/12/2002 à 13:48, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> We already discussed that problem many times with you, your problem is
> simple, you are using PPP.
> 
> A ppp connection is not enough to have a good quality. 

More precisely: a ppp connection with a simple modem is not enough. An
adsl ppp connection is enough.

You (AW, not Damien) have to understand that you need bandwith to
send/receive data. You tell us that with some you have good sound and
others a bad sound... I would say it doesn't really depend on with whom
you connect, but when, ie if you're connected at 56000 it will be better
than at 28800...

Using gnomemeeting with adsl (on both sides), you can have both
video&sound, but you can't have them both perfect (perfect sound and
50fps full quality). There is always a tradeoff.

On a lan, you can do what you want...

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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Hi Everyone:
For the last two weeks or so the server at ils.seconix.com gives me a message 
about having to register before seeing other users. However it appears that I 
AM registered. I get the "successfully regeistered to ils.seconix.com" 
message when starting gnomemeeting and another "successful logoff" message 
when quitting! (The registering is set in my preferences).
Anyone know what could be wrong?
Thanks for any help!


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Hello,

Some people have reported the same problem using old versions of
GnomeMeeting.

However we don't know what the problem can be as some of the GM testers
have confirmed that it was working even with old versions, we suggest
you to upgrade your old gnomemeeting version to a newer one (in the 0.9x
serie).


Le sam 14/12/2002 à 11:21, Will Lehman a écrit :
> Hi Everyone:
> For the last two weeks or so the server at ils.seconix.com gives me a message 
> about having to register before seeing other users. However it appears that I 
> AM registered. I get the "successfully regeistered to ils.seconix.com" 
> message when starting gnomemeeting and another "successful logoff" message 
> when quitting! (The registering is set in my preferences).
> Anyone know what could be wrong?
> Thanks for any help!
> 
> _______________________________________________
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I am using the version 0.94.1 so I guess it must be some other problem.=20
Unfortunately, I can't think of anything specific thing I've done (firewa=
ll,=20
settings, etc) in the mean time to cause the error. I will keep fiddling =
and=20
if I figure it out I'll let the list know.
Thanks
=20
On Saturday 14 December 2002 03:26 pm, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Some people have reported the same problem using old versions of
> GnomeMeeting.
>
> However we don't know what the problem can be as some of the GM testers
> have confirmed that it was working even with old versions, we suggest
> you to upgrade your old gnomemeeting version to a newer one (in the 0.9=
x
> serie).
>
> Le sam 14/12/2002 =E0 11:21, Will Lehman a =E9crit :
> > Hi Everyone:
> > For the last two weeks or so the server at ils.seconix.com gives me a
> > message about having to register before seeing other users. However i=
t
> > appears that I AM registered. I get the "successfully regeistered to
> > ils.seconix.com" message when starting gnomemeeting and another
> > "successful logoff" message when quitting! (The registering is set in=
 my
> > preferences).
> > Anyone know what could be wrong?
> > Thanks for any help!
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list


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While trying to run gnomemeeting 0.85, I receive the following error:

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Upgrading to 0.95 is not an option.  I'm open to any other suggestions.

Anne Racel



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On Saturday 14 December 2002 18:49, Anne Racel wrote:
> While trying to run gnomemeeting 0.85, I receive the following error:
>
> gnomemeeting: relocation error: gnomemeeting: undefined symbol:
> __vt_Q29PIPSocket14InterfaceTable
>
> Upgrading to 0.95 is not an option.  I'm open to any other suggestions.
>
> Anne Racel
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list

Why is upgrading not an option?

Pablo


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Le sam 14/12/2002 à 11:48, Will Lehman a écrit :
> I am using the version 0.94.1 so I guess it must be some other problem. 
> Unfortunately, I can't think of anything specific thing I've done (firewall, 
> settings, etc) in the mean time to cause the error. I will keep fiddling and 
> if I figure it out I'll let the list know.


I have checked in the logs for your email, for your firstname and for
your lastname, and nothing in the last week.

Nobody has ever had problems to register using 0.94.1 (except if you are
using some special international charachters).

> Thanks
>  
> On Saturday 14 December 2002 03:26 pm, Damien Sandras wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Some people have reported the same problem using old versions of
> > GnomeMeeting.
> >
> > However we don't know what the problem can be as some of the GM testers
> > have confirmed that it was working even with old versions, we suggest
> > you to upgrade your old gnomemeeting version to a newer one (in the 0.9x
> > serie).
> >
> > Le sam 14/12/2002 à 11:21, Will Lehman a écrit :
> > > Hi Everyone:
> > > For the last two weeks or so the server at ils.seconix.com gives me a
> > > message about having to register before seeing other users. However it
> > > appears that I AM registered. I get the "successfully regeistered to
> > > ils.seconix.com" message when starting gnomemeeting and another
> > > "successful logoff" message when quitting! (The registering is set in my
> > > preferences).
> > > Anyone know what could be wrong?
> > > Thanks for any help!
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
-- 
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Le sam 14/12/2002 à 18:49, Anne Racel a écrit :
> While trying to run gnomemeeting 0.85, I receive the following error:
> 
> gnomemeeting: relocation error: gnomemeeting: undefined symbol: 
> __vt_Q29PIPSocket14InterfaceTable
> 
> Upgrading to 0.95 is not an option.  I'm open to any other suggestions.
> 

It means that you forced and broke dependancies when installing the
packages. Try to install things in a clean way.

> Anne Racel
> 
> 
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> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
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OK, that helped: There was an invalid email address in my settings and ma=
ybe=20
that was the problem? In anycase, after fixing the email, I was able to l=
og=20
in correctly.
Thanks!

On Saturday 14 December 2002 06:09 pm, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Le sam 14/12/2002 =E0 11:48, Will Lehman a =E9crit :
> > I am using the version 0.94.1 so I guess it must be some other proble=
m.
> > Unfortunately, I can't think of anything specific thing I've done
> > (firewall, settings, etc) in the mean time to cause the error. I will
> > keep fiddling and if I figure it out I'll let the list know.
>
> I have checked in the logs for your email, for your firstname and for
> your lastname, and nothing in the last week.
>
> Nobody has ever had problems to register using 0.94.1 (except if you ar=
e
> using some special international charachters).
>
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Saturday 14 December 2002 03:26 pm, Damien Sandras wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Some people have reported the same problem using old versions of
> > > GnomeMeeting.
> > >
> > > However we don't know what the problem can be as some of the GM tes=
ters
> > > have confirmed that it was working even with old versions, we sugge=
st
> > > you to upgrade your old gnomemeeting version to a newer one (in the
> > > 0.9x serie).
> > >
> > > Le sam 14/12/2002 =E0 11:21, Will Lehman a =E9crit :
> > > > Hi Everyone:
> > > > For the last two weeks or so the server at ils.seconix.com gives =
me a
> > > > message about having to register before seeing other users. Howev=
er
> > > > it appears that I AM registered. I get the "successfully regeiste=
red
> > > > to ils.seconix.com" message when starting gnomemeeting and anothe=
r
> > > > "successful logoff" message when quitting! (The registering is se=
t in
> > > > my preferences).
> > > > Anyone know what could be wrong?
> > > > Thanks for any help!
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > > > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list


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I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or ldap 
server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting. The FAQ says 
this is possible starting in version .94 using XDAP, but I haven't been able 
to find exact instructions on how to do this anywhere on the web. Could 
someone please offer assistance?
(I know this is not recommended--this is for experiment only!)
Thanks!!!


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Le dim 15/12/2002 à 13:31, Will Lehman a écrit :
> I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or ldap 
> server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting. The FAQ says 
> this is possible starting in version .94 using XDAP, but I haven't been able 
> to find exact instructions on how to do this anywhere on the web. Could 
> someone please offer assistance?
> (I know this is not recommended--this is for experiment only!)
> Thanks!!!

I don't know how to do it with XDAP, but I'm sure you can do it with a
little tampering of the sources...

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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Le dim 15/12/2002 à 13:31, Will Lehman a écrit :
> I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or ldap 
> server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting. The FAQ says 
> this is possible starting in version .94 using XDAP, but I haven't been able 
> to find exact instructions on how to do this anywhere on the web. Could 
> someone please offer assistance?
> (I know this is not recommended--this is for experiment only!)
> Thanks!!!

You have to modify the xml files in /usr/share/gnomemeeting/xdap 
it is rather easy, but not recommended...

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% *** Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> wrote: ***
% Le dim 15/12/2002 =E0 13:31, Will Lehman a =E9crit :
% > I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or l=
dap=20
% > server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting.

Just a curious question: could you give me a reason of your choice of
the name 'ms-meeting' instead of 'gnomemeeting', pls ?


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Le dim 15/12/2002 à 19:13, Truong a écrit :
> % *** Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> wrote: ***
> % Le dim 15/12/2002 à 13:31, Will Lehman a écrit :
> % > I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or ldap 
> % > server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting.
> 
> Just a curious question: could you give me a reason of your choice of
> the name 'ms-meeting' instead of 'gnomemeeting', pls ?

When netmeeting connects to an ils server, it always search and list
other netmeeting clients. Hence all netmeeting users don't know about
non-netmeeting users. Only ils.seconix.com has been patched to forget
that particular (and antipathic) search key. Hence it could make sense
to appear as a netmeeting on other servers.

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Hi Julien,

% *** PUYDT Julien <julien.puydt@laposte.net> wrote: ***
% Le dim 15/12/2002 =E0 19:13, Truong a =E9crit :
% > % *** Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> wrote: ***
% > % Le dim 15/12/2002 =E0 13:31, Will Lehman a =E9crit :
% > % > I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils =
or ldap=20
% > % > server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting.
% >=20
% > Just a curious question: could you give me a reason of your choice of
% > the name 'ms-meeting' instead of 'gnomemeeting', pls ?
%=20
% When netmeeting connects to an ils server, it always search and list
% other netmeeting clients.

You mean Netmeeting accepts to communicate only with "any" H.323 client
which has a name "ms-netmeeting" in an ILS server ? (As I'am not sure if
I understood it well).


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Le dim 15/12/2002 à 19:47, Truong a écrit :

> You mean Netmeeting accepts to communicate only with "any" H.323 client
> which has a name "ms-netmeeting" in an ILS server ? (As I'am not sure if
> I understood it well).

No, I mean when a nm user asks the list of all users matching a
condition (name=toto or nothing) in an ils server, nm silently adds the
condition "using netmeeting". If the server is honest (ie not
ils.seconix.com), it will then give a list where gnomemeeting users
won't appear.

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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% *** PUYDT Julien <julien.puydt@laposte.net> wrote: ***
% Le dim 15/12/2002 =E0 19:47, Truong a =E9crit :
%=20
% > You mean Netmeeting accepts to communicate only with "any" H.323 client
% > which has a name "ms-netmeeting" in an ILS server ? (As I'am not sure if
% > I understood it well).
%=20
% No, I mean when a nm user asks the list of all users matching a
% condition (name=3Dtoto or nothing) in an ils server, nm silently adds the
% condition "using netmeeting". If the server is honest (ie not
% ils.seconix.com), it will then give a list where gnomemeeting users
% won't appear.
%=20

I understand better now the way NM searches its partners in an ils server.

Thanks for your explains, Julien.

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Hi, just new to VOIP and found gnomemeeting - turns out I've had it for a while on
my distro's CD and didn't even know it

Being new to VOIP, I first started with MSN Messenger since some of the guys in the
office were using it anyway but found that my Linux router's firewall was creating
trouble with the UPnP data system that it uses.

I'm looking for a cross platform (windows 98 and linux) application to improve
communications between our two SOHO offices.  Gnomemeeting and netmeeting look like
two that might work for us

Also, I wanted something that had the potential to tie into a full office wide VOIP
system since I think the future is in that direction (we currently use a Nortel
Norstar system at one site and just simple two line phones at the other site)

I've read a bunch of web pags and HOWTOs and feel that I have the general idea of
how the system works, although trying to pick the actual software packages to use
has left me bewildered (partly I think because some of the articles I've read date
back a  couple of years and I think the software has changed since then)

Anyway, my general understanding is that I can establish two way VOIP calling with
gnomemeeting through my DSL connection.  With the addition of some software, I can
create a private directory to map users to dynamic IP addresses.

Also, additional software and hardware (like the Quicknet phonejack) will allow me
to replace my soundcard, speaker, and mic system with a telephone handset

With other hardware (like the Quicknet linejack) and other software I can actually
bridge between the IP and regular phone line systems

I have a couple of questions that will help me as I try to plan ahead:
- how practical is it to use a VOIP phone system inside a one storey, one location
office? (I'd need an interface card of some type for each phone extension and each
line coming in right?)
- are the VOIP phones essentially the same type of system as a analog phone plugged
into a phonejack card?
- is there a system for linux that could tie in with VOIP to let others on the
system know when someone has logged in (like MSN Messenger for instance)

Also, could someone point me towards a current howto for setting up some of the
more advanced features (while sticking to my soundcard and headset system for now)


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Damien:
THanks for the quick reply! If you could, please give me a hint about wha=
t=20
exactly to change in these files? I have looked at them and don't see an=20
obvious solution (I guess it has something to do with sappid, but there's=
 no=20
line such as "sappid=3Dgnomemeeting" that I could change!
Sorry for the ignorance, but these xml files are a bit more complicated t=
han=20
the config files I'm used to seeing!
Thanks,
Will Lehman


On Sunday 15 December 2002 05:59 pm, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Le dim 15/12/2002 =E0 13:31, Will Lehman a =E9crit :
> > I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or
> > ldap server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting. Th=
e
> > FAQ says this is possible starting in version .94 using XDAP, but I
> > haven't been able to find exact instructions on how to do this anywhe=
re
> > on the web. Could someone please offer assistance?
> > (I know this is not recommended--this is for experiment only!)
> > Thanks!!!
>
> You have to modify the xml files in /usr/share/gnomemeeting/xdap
> it is rather easy, but not recommended...
>
> > _______________________________________________
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> > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list


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Le dim 15/12/2002 à 23:59, Will Lehman a écrit :
> Damien:
> THanks for the quick reply! If you could, please give me a hint about what 
> exactly to change in these files? I have looked at them and don't see an 

Each line represents an attribute, for example :
<sappid>&sappid</sappid> will use the sappid provided by GnomeMeeting as
ILS sappid attribute.

The lines beginning by <!ENTITY are sort of constants, if you put a line
like <!ENTITY sappid "ms-netmeeting">, ms-netmeeting will always be used
as attribute value whatever the value provided by the application.

You might have other things to change than the sappid attribute, but it
is the only one I can think of for now. We advise you to not register on
ILS servers using a fake ms-netmeeting ID. Thanks,


> obvious solution (I guess it has something to do with sappid, but there's no 
> line such as "sappid=gnomemeeting" that I could change!
> Sorry for the ignorance, but these xml files are a bit more complicated than 
> the config files I'm used to seeing!
> Thanks,
> Will Lehman
> 
> 
> On Sunday 15 December 2002 05:59 pm, Damien Sandras wrote:
> > Le dim 15/12/2002 à 13:31, Will Lehman a écrit :
> > > I'd like to configure gnomemeeting to register to a particular ils or
> > > ldap server as a ms-netmeeting client rather than as gnomemeeting. The
> > > FAQ says this is possible starting in version .94 using XDAP, but I
> > > haven't been able to find exact instructions on how to do this anywhere
> > > on the web. Could someone please offer assistance?
> > > (I know this is not recommended--this is for experiment only!)
> > > Thanks!!!
> >
> > You have to modify the xml files in /usr/share/gnomemeeting/xdap
> > it is rather easy, but not recommended...
> >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
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Le lun 16/12/2002 à 04:34, Brian Johnson a écrit :
> Hi, just new to VOIP and found gnomemeeting - turns out I've had it for a while on
> my distro's CD and didn't even know it
> 


> Anyway, my general understanding is that I can establish two way VOIP calling with
> gnomemeeting through my DSL connection.  With the addition of some software, I can
> create a private directory to map users to dynamic IP addresses.
> 

Using either an ILS directory, or better, an H323 Gatekeeper.

> Also, additional software and hardware (like the Quicknet phonejack) will allow me
> to replace my soundcard, speaker, and mic system with a telephone handset
> 

Right :)

> With other hardware (like the Quicknet linejack) and other software I can actually
> bridge between the IP and regular phone line systems
> 

Yes, and you can also use external services providers.

> I have a couple of questions that will help me as I try to plan ahead:
> - how practical is it to use a VOIP phone system inside a one storey, one location
> office? (I'd need an interface card of some type for each phone extension and each
> line coming in right?)

Yes I think so too, but I'm not an expert in gateways. However, you can
try ISDN to H.323 gateways like this one :
http://www.telos.de/linux/H323/default_e.htm
but better ask on their mailing list for gateway related information.

> - are the VOIP phones essentially the same type of system as a analog phone plugged
> into a phonejack card?

Yes, it is essentially a well-integrated VOIP hardware system.

> - is there a system for linux that could tie in with VOIP to let others on the
> system know when someone has logged in (like MSN Messenger for instance)
> 

I don't think so. When someone logs in, the MSN server sends a message,
but with ILS and gatekeepers, you can't do that. 

> Also, could someone point me towards a current howto for setting up some of the
> more advanced features (while sticking to my soundcard and headset system for now)
> 

Perhaps try to find on google "Linux VOIP Howto", this Howto is not very
complete yet, but it is a good start.
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Le Samedi 14 D=E9cembre 2002 12:48, Damien Sandras a =E9crit :
> We already discussed that problem many times with you, your problem is
> simple, you are using PPP.
> A ppp connection is not enough to have a good quality.
---------------------------------
I don't follow all the discussions "poor audio quality",
so sorry to ask with this question :
what I have to add more than ppp ... ?
(I'm under a RTC modem)
may be with an ADSL connection, it will work better ...
thanks
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hai,
     i am new to gnomemeeting. i am using redhat7.2
and webcam is intel create and share. i am using the
module spca50x.my webcam works fine under gqcam
package. when i run gnomemeeting it tells that video
device were opened and also the test image was
transmitted.but i couldn't see  the test image.Help me
to come out this problem. 
         Thanking you 


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Le lun 16/12/2002 à 12:46, antoine a écrit :
> Le Samedi 14 Décembre 2002 12:48, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> > We already discussed that problem many times with you, your problem is
> > simple, you are using PPP.
> > A ppp connection is not enough to have a good quality.
> ---------------------------------
> I don't follow all the discussions "poor audio quality",
> so sorry to ask with this question :
> what I have to add more than ppp ... ?
> (I'm under a RTC modem)
> may be with an ADSL connection, it will work better ...
> thanks
> antoine 

RTC is/should be enough as long as none of the sides is sending video,
but I guess it depends much of the time when you connect.
If one of the sides is sending video; you need ADSL.


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Le lun 16/12/2002 à 12:17, prem kannan a écrit :
> hai,
>      i am new to gnomemeeting. i am using redhat7.2
> and webcam is intel create and share. i am using the
> module spca50x.my webcam works fine under gqcam
> package. when i run gnomemeeting it tells that video
> device were opened and also the test image was
> transmitted.but i couldn't see  the test image.Help me
> to come out this problem. 
>          Thanking you 

I'm not sure I understand your question.
The test image is automatically displayed when you enable video preview
and that there is a problem while opening the video device.
Here is help for you:

http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3&pos=0#AEN291

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> RTC is/should be enough as long as none of the sides is sending video,
> but I guess it depends much of the time when you connect.
> If one of the sides is sending video; you need ADSL.
------------------------------
I will see it later when i'm under ADSL ...  soon !
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On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 21:26, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Le lun 16/12/2002 =E0 12:17, prem kannan a =E9crit :
> > hai,
> >      i am new to gnomemeeting. i am using redhat7.2
> > and webcam is intel create and share. i am using the
> > module spca50x.my webcam works fine under gqcam
> > package. when i run gnomemeeting it tells that video
> > device were opened and also the test image was
> > transmitted.but i couldn't see  the test image.Help me
> > to come out this problem.=20
> >          Thanking you=20
>=20
There is a patch that has been put in the version of pwlib that has been
compiled with GM 0.94.1 for the spca50x driver so it knows what color
format to use.  if your using a version of GM Prior to this you will
need to either patch your pwlib. or update to gm 0.94.1  which on a RH
7.2 system will involve a gnome libs update. i can supply you with the
patch you need if thats what you want to do. what is the cs number of
the camera?  the cs430 needs alot of light to get a proper image not
sure about the cs330 havent tested mine much yet.

Dennis

> I'm not sure I understand your question.
> The test image is automatically displayed when you enable video preview
> and that there is a problem while opening the video device.
> Here is help for you:
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Please find attached a fairly simple patch (against the 0.94.1 tree) that adds
another capture size to GnomeMeeting.

This capture size I have named "Small (Scaled)".  Its function is simple; it
captures the image from the camera at CIF resolution, then, after conditioning
by H323VideoDevice::Redraw, it scales the image down to QCIF for
display/transmission.  

On my Logitech QuickCam Web, this improves QCIF image quality dramatically.  I'm
not sure if others have the same problems that I do; perhaps it's a driver- or
hardware-specific problem. To see the effect without applying the patch, compare
the QCIF image at regular (100%) zoom to the CIF image zoomed out to 50%
(without bilinear interpolation).  This is the image that my patch gives at 100%.

Does this seem useful to anyone else?  If not, Damien, don't feel compelled to
apply it.  It's rather hackish; a more elegant solution would have required
moving some code around.  It's certainly something I will continue to maintain,
because it makes GnomeMeeting that much more usable for me over slow links.

Regards,
Brian Teague


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Brian,

I have the same camera that you do.  I haven't been able to get it to talk
to my system.  Please share your config - OS, version, hardware, drivers,
...

Thanks

Les

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Please find attached a fairly simple patch (against the 0.94.1 tree) that
adds
another capture size to GnomeMeeting.

This capture size I have named "Small (Scaled)".  Its function is simple; it
captures the image from the camera at CIF resolution, then, after
conditioning
by H323VideoDevice::Redraw, it scales the image down to QCIF for
display/transmission.  

On my Logitech QuickCam Web, this improves QCIF image quality dramatically.
I'm
not sure if others have the same problems that I do; perhaps it's a driver-
or
hardware-specific problem. To see the effect without applying the patch,
compare
the QCIF image at regular (100%) zoom to the CIF image zoomed out to 50%
(without bilinear interpolation).  This is the image that my patch gives at
100%.

Does this seem useful to anyone else?  If not, Damien, don't feel compelled
to
apply it.  It's rather hackish; a more elegant solution would have required
moving some code around.  It's certainly something I will continue to
maintain,
because it makes GnomeMeeting that much more usable for me over slow links.

Regards,
Brian Teague



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Le mar 17/12/2002 à 19:59, bteague@rice.edu a écrit :
> Please find attached a fairly simple patch (against the 0.94.1 tree) that adds
> another capture size to GnomeMeeting.
> 
> This capture size I have named "Small (Scaled)".  Its function is simple; it
> captures the image from the camera at CIF resolution, then, after conditioning
> by H323VideoDevice::Redraw, it scales the image down to QCIF for
> display/transmission.  
> 
Hello Brian,

Unfortunately, as I understand the patch, it only scales the picture
when displaying it, not for transmission. You would have the exact same
result by choosing to transmit "Large", and scaling down the image to
50%. If I understand your patch correctly of course.

If you are still interested in developing a patch to be able to make
your driver capture in CIF, but to transmit a QCIF scaled down image, it
has to be done in pwlib. It is of course very interesting to do because
that way, cameras supporting QSIF (160x120), could scale up the image to
QCIF (176x144) before sending the picture.

Let me know if you are interested in doing this, and I will guide you
through the code, it is very uncommon to find people willing to help.

Thanks,



> On my Logitech QuickCam Web, this improves QCIF image quality dramatically.  I'm
> not sure if others have the same problems that I do; perhaps it's a driver- or
> hardware-specific problem. To see the effect without applying the patch, compare
> the QCIF image at regular (100%) zoom to the CIF image zoomed out to 50%
> (without bilinear interpolation).  This is the image that my patch gives at 100%.
> 
> Does this seem useful to anyone else?  If not, Damien, don't feel compelled to
> apply it.  It's rather hackish; a more elegant solution would have required
> moving some code around.  It's certainly something I will continue to maintain,
> because it makes GnomeMeeting that much more usable for me over slow links.
> 
> Regards,
> Brian Teague
-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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There are lots of documentation you should read at www.gnomemeeting.org.
If after that reading you still have problems using the software, i
suggest you to mail gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org with your problems, were
lots of people will be able to help you.

Thank you for trying GnomeMeeting.

El mar, 17-12-2002 a las 22:20, Boi Roig Roig escribió:
> Hello,
> 
>     I'm Boi Roig Roig.
> 
>         I wish to run this software using my webcam, but I have no help 
> files. GnomeMeeting logs "no gatekeeper found" and I can't find someone 
> because says that I am not registered.
> 
> Where could I found help, and where could I register me?
> 
> 
-- 
Miguel Rodríguez Pérez <migrax@terra.es>


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> Hello Brian,
> 
> Unfortunately, as I understand the patch, it only scales the picture
> when displaying it, not for transmission. 

Yes.  I noticed that.  I was so excited to finally have local video looking good
that I forgot to check the transmitted result.

> 
> If you are still interested in developing a patch to be able to make
> your driver capture in CIF, but to transmit a QCIF scaled down image, it
> has to be done in pwlib. It is of course very interesting to do because
> that way, cameras supporting QSIF (160x120), could scale up the image to
> QCIF (176x144) before sending the picture.

I think arbitrary scaling of the transmitted video (ie, from an arbitrary frame
size to CIF or QCIF) sounds like a good idea.  Unforunately, I was using
Gdk-pixbuf to do the actual scaling, which means I'd have to actually implement
the scaler myself.  Or does PWLib have it somewhere already?

> 
> Let me know if you are interested in doing this, and I will guide you
> through the code, it is very uncommon to find people willing to help.

Certainly.

At first, I tried doing it in videograbber.cpp, in the main loop between
channel->Read() and channel->Write().  The implementation was really clean, but
the results were horrible; apparently, H323VideoDevice::Redraw() does some
conditioning of the image that makes it scale better.  (Or is it just that the
image data between channel->Read() and channel->Write() isn't in RGB format yet,
and so a simple box filter doesn't work?  I couldn't really tell.)

I'd be more than happy to work on a more general-purpose version of this
concept... as long as it still works in the special case for which I attempted
to write it in the first place.  (-;

Thanks!

Brian


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> I think arbitrary scaling of the transmitted video (ie, from an arbitrary frame
> size to CIF or QCIF) sounds like a good idea.  Unforunately, I was using
> Gdk-pixbuf to do the actual scaling, which means I'd have to actually implement
> the scaler myself.  Or does PWLib have it somewhere already?
> 

No, PWLib is only able to "crop" the image. So if a given webcam can
only capture in CIF mode, only a part of the CIF picture will be
transmitted in QCIF mode. If you are interested to work on this in pwlib
itself, I think it would be a good contribution to gnomemeeting and
OpenH323, but it won't be easy.

If you want, you can already have a look in
pwlib/src/ptlib/unix/video4linux.cxx and perhaps rewrite the function
that crops picture to resize it instead. but again, that won't be easy.
You can perhaps reuse some code from gdk_pixbuf to achieve it.



> > 
> > Let me know if you are interested in doing this, and I will guide you
> > through the code, it is very uncommon to find people willing to help.
> 

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Le mer 18/12/2002 à 14:33, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> You can perhaps reuse some code from gdk_pixbuf to achieve it.

Beware of the license of the code...

Snark


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Hi,

I have the same problem with getting almost instantly disconnected
(also the closing / opening of videodevice message) when attempting a
connection to a Netmeeting whatever version it may be (I tried against
Netmeeting 2.11 and 3.01). I will try to describe what I tried till
now:

I have the camera installed on the firewall of my network, which is a
Mandrake 9.0. Same symptom remains also when firewall is disabled
completely and a portscan on myself showed no blocking of any ports. So
firewall is not an issue.I tried both with Gnomemeeting 93.1 and 94.1.

I tried against a WinXp NetMeeting 3.01 and a Win98SE 2.11 and still
same. Tried to kill the sound server but still no go.

But I did find out one funny thing.

If the other person disables the videotransmission, then it works. It
works meaning that he can see me and hear me and I can hear him. As
soon as he starts the video transmission from his netmeeting,
connection is lost. In most cases I see in my call logs "The other
party has cleared the connection.".

I don't know if knowing that without video transmission from the
NetMeeting end works will help, but thought I'd share it. If anyone can
instruct me how to start both NetMeeting and Gnomemeeting with debug
output I would appreciate it. Maybe I can provide some more input on
what is happening.

BTW, me and the other guy have both A-DSL 768/128 Kb dl/ul. So I don't
think speed is a prob. On the other hand I succesfully connected to
other persons running Gnomemeeting.

Tweaking any possible settings including video quality and FPS
limitation didn't help at all (and beleive me when I say that for the
last 2 days I tried everything I could change in the configs/options
and searched the entire net for solutions). And BTW, disable video
and/or audio on my side didn't change a thing. The connection breaks as
soon as the NetMeeting user turns on video transmission.

Best regards,
Adrian Golumbovici

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Le mer 18/12/2002 à 17:10, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :

many things, but I'll take only that line:
> So firewall is not an issue
you only proved it wasn't an issue on YOUR side... what about the other
side?

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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You can run gnomemeeting with --debug=3 and see.
But, given the fact that:
- GnomeMeeting indicates that Netmeeting clears the call
- the problem disappear if the the Netmeeting user doesn't transmit
video
- the problem doesn't disappear if you disable video transmission
- you have no problems with other GnomeMeeting users

I would say that the Netmeeting is faulty and for one reason or another
decides that it can't transmit video. The problem is to discover *why*
Netmeeting suddenly decides to stop the connection. I think GnomeMeeting
can't do anything to prevent it if the Netmeeting disconnects.



Le mer 18/12/2002 à 17:10, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I have the same problem with getting almost instantly disconnected
> (also the closing / opening of videodevice message) when attempting a
> connection to a Netmeeting whatever version it may be (I tried against
> Netmeeting 2.11 and 3.01). I will try to describe what I tried till
> now:
> 
> I have the camera installed on the firewall of my network, which is a
> Mandrake 9.0. Same symptom remains also when firewall is disabled
> completely and a portscan on myself showed no blocking of any ports. So
> firewall is not an issue.I tried both with Gnomemeeting 93.1 and 94.1.
> 
> I tried against a WinXp NetMeeting 3.01 and a Win98SE 2.11 and still
> same. Tried to kill the sound server but still no go.
> 
> But I did find out one funny thing.
> 
> If the other person disables the videotransmission, then it works. It
> works meaning that he can see me and hear me and I can hear him. As
> soon as he starts the video transmission from his netmeeting,
> connection is lost. In most cases I see in my call logs "The other
> party has cleared the connection.".
> 
> I don't know if knowing that without video transmission from the
> NetMeeting end works will help, but thought I'd share it. If anyone can
> instruct me how to start both NetMeeting and Gnomemeeting with debug
> output I would appreciate it. Maybe I can provide some more input on
> what is happening.
> 
> BTW, me and the other guy have both A-DSL 768/128 Kb dl/ul. So I don't
> think speed is a prob. On the other hand I succesfully connected to
> other persons running Gnomemeeting.
> 
> Tweaking any possible settings including video quality and FPS
> limitation didn't help at all (and beleive me when I say that for the
> last 2 days I tried everything I could change in the configs/options
> and searched the entire net for solutions). And BTW, disable video
> and/or audio on my side didn't change a thing. The connection breaks as
> soon as the NetMeeting user turns on video transmission.
> 
> Best regards,
> Adrian Golumbovici
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Oh well...

First of all on the other side there is a LAN but he is also on his =
gateway (WinXP). Firewall on his side is also disabled. The maximum a =
connection held was about 20 seconds. For about 0 to 5 seconds I can see =
him but suddenly connection drops.:/ So I guess his firewall is also out =
of the question.

I know it might be a Netmeeting problem, but I think it might be in =
relation with gnomemeeting or I wouldn't be posting in here in the first =
place.:)

As far as I know he had successfull connections with other netmeeting =
users. So I was wondering if any other user had same prob and found this =
list. At least in theory it should be compatible...

I waited for a year visiting each day the developer sites to see a OV518 =
based webcam driver and finally got it. Now I was just eager to use it.

I guess I could also try to buy another network card and try to install =
adsl driver on my win2k PC and see for myself if he really can connect =
netmeeting to netmeeting.

But as I am sick of M$ I just hoped that soon I can finally switch to =
linux forever....

Oh well... I will try to run gnomemeeting with debug and see if I can =
come up with better info on what happens...

In the mean time if anyone can think of a reason for which this is =
happening or had this prob and solved it, please let me know. :)

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh well...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>First of all on the other side there is =
a&nbsp;LAN=20
but he is also on his gateway (WinXP). Firewall on his side is also =
disabled.=20
The maximum a connection held was about 20 seconds. For about 0 to 5 =
seconds I=20
can see him but suddenly connection drops.:/ So I guess his firewall is =
also out=20
of the question.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know it might be a Netmeeting =
problem, but I=20
think it might be in relation with gnomemeeting or I wouldn't be posting =
in here=20
in the first place.:)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As far as I know he had successfull =
connections=20
with other netmeeting users. So I was wondering if any other user had =
same prob=20
and found this list. At least in theory it should be =
compatible...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I waited for a year visiting each day =
the developer=20
sites to see a OV518 based webcam driver and finally got it. Now I was =
just=20
eager to use it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I guess I could also try to buy another =
network=20
card and try to install adsl driver on my win2k PC and see for myself if =
he=20
really can connect netmeeting to netmeeting.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But as I am sick of M$ I just hoped =
that soon I can=20
finally switch to linux forever....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh well... I will try to run =
gnomemeeting with=20
debug and see if I can come up with better info on what =
happens...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In the mean time if anyone can think of =
a reason=20
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We had similar reports in the past and the problem was always because of
firewalls.

Now, try to capture the output of --debug=3 and send it to the list but
there is a big chance that we will only notice that Netmeeting simply
decided to disconnect. Make him double check all his settings. For
example, in his connection settings, make sure he is not telling to
Netmeeting that he has ppp connection or something like that. Try to ask
him to put "Lan" or something like that.

Also make sure that his firewall is really disabled.

Le mer 18/12/2002 à 19:05, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> Oh well...
>  
> First of all on the other side there is a LAN but he is also on his
> gateway (WinXP). Firewall on his side is also disabled. The maximum a
> connection held was about 20 seconds. For about 0 to 5 seconds I can
> see him but suddenly connection drops.:/ So I guess his firewall is
> also out of the question.
>  
> I know it might be a Netmeeting problem, but I think it might be in
> relation with gnomemeeting or I wouldn't be posting in here in the
> first place.:)
>  
> As far as I know he had successfull connections with other netmeeting
> users. So I was wondering if any other user had same prob and found
> this list. At least in theory it should be compatible...
>  
> I waited for a year visiting each day the developer sites to see a
> OV518 based webcam driver and finally got it. Now I was just eager to
> use it.
>  
> I guess I could also try to buy another network card and try to
> install adsl driver on my win2k PC and see for myself if he really can
> connect netmeeting to netmeeting.
>  
> But as I am sick of M$ I just hoped that soon I can finally switch to
> linux forever....
>  
> Oh well... I will try to run gnomemeeting with debug and see if I can
> come up with better info on what happens...
>  
> In the mean time if anyone can think of a reason for which this is
> happening or had this prob and solved it, please let me know. :)
>  
-- 
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ummm.... why putting ppp as his connection in Netmeeting might  create
probs?!?
and if firewall would be an issue, why would I still get at least 0-5
seconds of image from him?

I know a bit about firewalling (configured a few myself) but am not
declaring myself an expert. Still, getting only a part of the transmission
through a firewall doesn't make much sense...

P.S. As soon as I can get him to help me debug it I will post the results.

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> We had similar reports in the past and the problem was always because of
> firewalls.
>
> Now, try to capture the output of --debug=3 and send it to the list but
> there is a big chance that we will only notice that Netmeeting simply
> decided to disconnect. Make him double check all his settings. For
> example, in his connection settings, make sure he is not telling to
> Netmeeting that he has ppp connection or something like that. Try to ask
> him to put "Lan" or something like that.
>
> Also make sure that his firewall is really disabled.
>
> Le mer 18/12/2002 à 19:05, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> > Oh well...
> >
> > First of all on the other side there is a LAN but he is also on his
> > gateway (WinXP). Firewall on his side is also disabled. The maximum a
> > connection held was about 20 seconds. For about 0 to 5 seconds I can
> > see him but suddenly connection drops.:/ So I guess his firewall is
> > also out of the question.
> >
> > I know it might be a Netmeeting problem, but I think it might be in
> > relation with gnomemeeting or I wouldn't be posting in here in the
> > first place.:)
> >
> > As far as I know he had successfull connections with other netmeeting
> > users. So I was wondering if any other user had same prob and found
> > this list. At least in theory it should be compatible...
> >
> > I waited for a year visiting each day the developer sites to see a
> > OV518 based webcam driver and finally got it. Now I was just eager to
> > use it.
> >
> > I guess I could also try to buy another network card and try to
> > install adsl driver on my win2k PC and see for myself if he really can
> > connect netmeeting to netmeeting.
> >
> > But as I am sick of M$ I just hoped that soon I can finally switch to
> > linux forever....
> >
> > Oh well... I will try to run gnomemeeting with debug and see if I can
> > come up with better info on what happens...
> >
> > In the mean time if anyone can think of a reason for which this is
> > happening or had this prob and solved it, please let me know. :)
> >
> --
> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
>
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Le mer 18/12/2002 à 19:23, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> ummm.... why putting ppp as his connection in Netmeeting might  create
> probs?!?

For the same reason why using Windows might create probs? ;-)

> and if firewall would be an issue, why would I still get at least 0-5
> seconds of image from him?

Because it is outgoing traffic for him, outgoing traffic is rarely
firewalled, people usually only filter incoming traffic. The problem is
probably that his netmeeting doesn't receive any data from you, thus it
disconnects.
If it doesn't receive any data from you, either the data doesn't leave
your computer, or the data is dropped on his side.

> 
> I know a bit about firewalling (configured a few myself) but am not
> declaring myself an expert. Still, getting only a part of the transmission
> through a firewall doesn't make much sense...

Why not? Isn't it the purpose of firewalls to filter connections and to
accept some of them and reject others ?

> 
> P.S. As soon as I can get him to help me debug it I will post the results.
> 

-- 
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> > ummm.... why putting ppp as his connection in Netmeeting might  create
> > probs?!?
>
> For the same reason why using Windows might create probs? ;-)

Lol. You got a point there. ;)

>
> > and if firewall would be an issue, why would I still get at least 0-5
> > seconds of image from him?
>
> Because it is outgoing traffic for him, outgoing traffic is rarely
> firewalled, people usually only filter incoming traffic. The problem is
> probably that his netmeeting doesn't receive any data from you, thus it
> disconnects.
> If it doesn't receive any data from you, either the data doesn't leave
> your computer, or the data is dropped on his side.

I knew you guys know more about this than me. :)

> > I know a bit about firewalling (configured a few myself) but am not
> > declaring myself an expert. Still, getting only a part of the
transmission
> > through a firewall doesn't make much sense...
>
> Why not? Isn't it the purpose of firewalls to filter connections and to
> accept some of them and reject others ?

I know that. But this usually happens on different ports and different
directions of communication and not on one port and one directions but just
for a few seconds. :/


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OK. I started it with --debug=3. As before he connected at first without
video transmission enabled and after a while (about 30 seconds) he started
it and connection dropped as before in a few seconds. Here is the Log:

0:06.088 gnomemeeting gnomemeeting Version 0.94.1 by on Unix Linux
(2.4.19-16mdk-i686) at 2002/12/18 19:15:52.784

0:06.094 gnomemeeting H323 Started listener Listener[ip$*:1720]

0:06.096 H323 Listener:822f478 H323 Awaiting TCP connections on port 1720

0:06.186 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1

0:06.567 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLimits.
160x120 -- 352x288

0:06.773 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLimits.
160x120 -- 352x288

0:06.911 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeeded
for converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P

0:06.912 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLimits.
160x120 -- 352x288

0:06.912 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

0:07.052 GMVideoGrabber:41ef2008 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

0:29.086 H323 Listener:822f478 H323TCP Started connection:
host=217.82.7.44:4348, if=80.134.251.111:1720, handle=32

0:29.087 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Started incoming call thread

0:29.088 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Awaiting first PDU

0:29.105 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Receiving PDU: setup

0:29.105 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Incoming call, first PDU:
callReference=26496

0:29.107 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>

0:29.108 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>

0:29.108 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15k{sw} <3>

0:29.109 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k{sw} <4>

0:29.109 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>

0:29.110 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>

0:29.110 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:29.111 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <8>

0:29.111 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:29.111 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>

0:29.112 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>

0:29.112 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>

0:29.113 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: SpeexNarrow-15k{sw} <3>

0:29.113 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: SpeexNarrow-8k{sw} <4>

0:29.113 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>

0:29.114 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>

0:29.114 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:29.115 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <8>

0:29.115 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:29.116 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <10>

0:29.117 H225 Answer:82595c8 RFC2833 Handler created

0:29.118 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Created new connection:
ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496

0:29.119 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Handling PDU: Setup callRef=26496

0:29.119 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Set protocol version to 1 and implying
H.245 version 2

0:29.120 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Set remote application name: "Microsoft®
NetMeeting® 2.11 181/21324"

0:29.122 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Sending call proceeding PDU

0:29.126 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Sending PDU: callProceeding

0:29.145 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Incoming call accepted

0:29.657 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Answering call: AnswerCallNow

0:29.657 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 TCP Listen for H245 on
80.134.251.111:30000

0:29.658 H245:8259dd0 H245 Started thread

0:29.659 H245:8259dd0 H245 TCP Accept wait

0:29.660 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Sending PDU: connect

0:29.663 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=HasExecutedSignalConnect fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:29.664 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=HasExecutedSignalConnect fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:29.665 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Reading PDUs: callRef=26496

0:30.668 H245:8259dd0 H323TCP Started connection: host=217.82.7.44:4351,
if=80.134.251.111:30000, handle=38

0:30.669 H245:8259dd0 H245 Started control channel

0:30.670 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending TerminalCapabilitySet: outSeq=1

0:30.679 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: request terminalCapabilitySet

0:30.682 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending MasterSlaveDetermination

0:30.683 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: request masterSlaveDetermination

0:30.689 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: request terminalCapabilitySet

0:30.689 H245:8259dd0 H245 Set protocol version to 2

0:30.690 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received TerminalCapabilitySet: state=InProgress
pduSeq=1 inSeq=4294967295

0:30.690 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>

0:30.691 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>

0:30.691 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15k{sw} <3>

0:30.692 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k{sw} <4>

0:30.692 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>

0:30.693 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>

0:30.693 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:30.694 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <8>

0:30.694 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:30.694 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>

0:30.695 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:30.696 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <8>

0:30.696 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.723.1A(6.3k)-Cisco{hw} <11>

0:30.697 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.723.1A(5.3k){hw} <12>

0:30.697 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.723.1A(6.3k){hw} <13>

0:30.698 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.723.1(5.3k){hw} <14>

0:30.698 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.723.1{hw} <15>

0:30.699 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.729A/B{hw} <16>

0:30.699 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.729A{hw} <17>

0:30.700 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{hw} <18>

0:30.700 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.728{hw} <19>

0:30.701 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{hw} <20>

0:30.702 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{hw} <21>

0:30.702 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>

0:30.703 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: MS-IMA-ADPCM{sw} <22>

0:30.704 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>

0:30.704 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.726-16k{sw} <23>

0:30.705 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.726-24k{sw} <24>

0:30.705 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>

0:30.706 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.726-40k{sw} <25>

0:30.706 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>

0:30.707 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.729A{n/a} <26>

0:30.708 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.729{n/a} <27>

0:30.708 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-18.2k{sw} <28>

0:30.709 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: SpeexNarrow-15k{sw} <3>

0:30.710 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-11k{sw} <29>

0:30.710 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: SpeexNarrow-8k{sw} <4>

0:30.711 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-5.95k{sw} <30>

0:30.711 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: UserInput/hookflash <31>

0:30.712 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: UserInput/basicString <32>

0:30.712 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: UserInput/dtmf <33>

0:30.715 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: UserInput/RFC2833 <34>

0:30.715 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <8>

0:30.716 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:30.717 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.723.1A(5.3k){hw} <12>

0:30.717 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:30.718 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:30.719 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <1>

0:30.720 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:30.720 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: G.723.1(5.3k){hw} <4>

0:30.721 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <6>

0:30.721 H245:8259dd0 H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <7>

0:30.722 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.723.1(5.3k){hw} <4>

0:30.722 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:30.723 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <1>

0:30.724 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: H.261-QCIF <6>

0:30.724 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.723.1(5.3k){hw} <4>

0:30.724 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:30.725 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <1>

0:30.725 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <7>

0:30.726 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received capability set, is accepted

0:30.726 H245:8259dd0 H245 TerminalCapabilitySet already in progress:
outSeq=1

0:30.727 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: response terminalCapabilitySetAck

0:30.728 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=HasExecutedSignalConnect fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:31.002 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: request masterSlaveDetermination

0:31.006 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received MasterSlaveDetermination: state=Outgoing

0:31.007 H245:8259dd0 H245 MasterSlaveDetermination: local is slave

0:31.007 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: response masterSlaveDeterminationAck

0:31.008 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=HasExecutedSignalConnect fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:31.342 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: response terminalCapabilitySetAck

0:31.343 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received TerminalCapabilitySetAck:
state=InProgress pduSeq=1 outSeq=1

0:31.344 H245:8259dd0 H245 TerminalCapabilitySet Sent.

0:31.344 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=HasExecutedSignalConnect fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:31.696 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: response
masterSlaveDeterminationAck

0:31.696 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received MasterSlaveDeterminationAck:
state=Incoming

0:31.697 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=HasExecutedSignalConnect fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:31.698 H245:8259dd0 H245 Default OnSelectLogicalChannels,
FastStartDisabled

0:31.698 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:31.699 H245:8259dd0 H323 Selecting G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:31.699 H245:8259dd0 H245 Opening channel: T-101

0:31.702 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP Session 1 created: data=5000 control=5001
ssrc=543449014

0:31.704 H245:8259dd0 RTP Adding session RTP_UDP

0:31.704 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Transmitter created using session 1

0:31.705 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnSendingPDU

0:31.706 H245:8259dd0 RTP OnSendingPDU

0:31.707 H245:8259dd0 Codec G711 uLaw encoder created for at 64k, frame of
240 samples

0:31.894 H245:8259dd0 Codec Opened sound channel "/dev/sound/dsp" for
recording using 4x480 byte buffers.

0:31.895 H245:8259dd0 H323 Started sending logical channel:
G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:31.902 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Opened using capability G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:31.902 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Bandwidth requested/used = 64.0/0.0 kb/s

0:31.903 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: -0.0kb/s, available:
10000.0kb/s

0:31.904 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: +64.0kb/s, available:
10000.0kb/s

0:31.905 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: request openLogicalChannel

0:31.906 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: H.261-QCIF <6>

0:31.907 H245:8259dd0 H323 Selecting H.261-QCIF <6>

0:31.907 H245:8259dd0 H245 Opening channel: T-102

0:31.909 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP Session 2 created: data=5002 control=5003
ssrc=4193115180

0:31.910 H245:8259dd0 RTP Adding session RTP_UDP

0:31.910 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Transmitter created using session 2

0:31.911 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnSendingPDU

0:31.911 H245:8259dd0 RTP OnSendingPDU

0:31.912 H245:8259dd0 H261 QCIF encoder created.

0:31.913 H245:8259dd0 SetAverageBandwidth for video to 0bps

0:31.915 H245:8259dd0 H323 Started sending logical channel: H.261-QCIF <6>

0:31.919 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Opened using capability H.261-QCIF <6>

0:31.919 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Bandwidth requested/used = 240.0/0.0 kb/s

0:31.920 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: -0.0kb/s, available:
9936.0kb/s

0:31.920 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: +240.0kb/s, available:
9936.0kb/s

0:31.921 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: request openLogicalChannel

0:31.935 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: request openLogicalChannel

0:31.936 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received open channel: R-257, state=Released

0:31.937 H245:8259dd0 H323 CreateLogicalChannel - forward channel

0:31.937 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:31.938 H245:8259dd0 RTP Found existing session 2

0:31.938 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Receiver created using session 2

0:31.939 H245:8259dd0 H261 QCIF decoder created.

0:31.939 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Bandwidth requested/used = 240.0/0.0 kb/s

0:31.940 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: -0.0kb/s, available:
9696.0kb/s

0:31.940 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: +240.0kb/s, available:
9696.0kb/s

0:31.941 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnReceivedPDU for channel: R-257

0:31.942 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP SetRemoteSocketInfo: control channel,
new=217.82.7.44:5005, local=80.134.251.111:5002-5003, remote=0.0.0.0:0-0

0:31.942 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnSendOpenAck

0:31.943 H245:8259dd0 RTP OnSendingAckPDU

0:31.943 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Sending open logical channel ACK: sessionID=2

0:31.944 H245:8259dd0 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1

0:31.945 H245:8259dd0 H323 Started receiving logical channel: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:32.006 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:32.006 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:32.513 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:32.513 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:33.023 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:33.024 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:33.533 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:33.534 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:33.954 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: command miscellaneousCommand

0:33.956 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Opened using capability H.261-QCIF <9>

0:33.957 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receive H.261 thread started.

0:33.958 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: response openLogicalChannelAck

0:33.959 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:33.961 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: request openLogicalChannel

0:33.962 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received open channel: R-258, state=Released

0:33.963 H245:8259dd0 H323 CreateLogicalChannel - forward channel

0:33.963 H245:8259dd0 H323 Found capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:33.964 H245:8259dd0 RTP Found existing session 1

0:33.964 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Receiver created using session 1

0:33.964 H245:8259dd0 Codec G711 uLaw decoder created for at 64k, frame of
256 samples

0:33.965 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Bandwidth requested/used = 64.0/0.0 kb/s

0:33.965 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: -0.0kb/s, available:
9456.0kb/s

0:33.966 H245:8259dd0 H323 Bandwidth request: +64.0kb/s, available:
9456.0kb/s

0:33.967 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnReceivedPDU for channel: R-258

0:33.967 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP SetRemoteSocketInfo: control channel,
new=217.82.7.44:5013, local=80.134.251.111:5000-5001, remote=0.0.0.0:0-0

0:33.968 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnSendOpenAck

0:33.968 H245:8259dd0 RTP OnSendingAckPDU

0:33.969 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Sending open logical channel ACK: sessionID=1

/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy

0:33.992 H245:8259dd0 Codec Opened sound channel "/dev/sound/dsp" for
playing using 4x512 byte buffers.

0:33.993 H245:8259dd0 H323 Started receiving logical channel:
G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:33.994 H245:8259dd0 LogChan Opened using capability G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:34.001 H245:8259dd0 H245 Sending PDU: response openLogicalChannelAck

0:34.002 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:34.004 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: response openLogicalChannelAck

0:34.005 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received open channel ack: T-101,
state=AwaitingEstablishment

0:34.005 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnReceiveOpenAck

0:34.005 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP SetRemoteSocketInfo: control channel,
new=217.82.7.44:5013, local=80.134.251.111:5000-5001,
remote=217.82.7.44:5012-5013

0:34.006 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP SetRemoteSocketInfo: data channel,
new=217.82.7.44:5012, local=80.134.251.111:5000-5001,
remote=217.82.7.44:5012-5013

0:34.008 LogChanRx:81e9730 H323RTP Receive G.711-uLaw-64k thread started.

0:34.009 LogChanRx:81e9730 RTP Jitter buffer created: size=41 delay=1600

0:34.010 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:34.011 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: response openLogicalChannelAck

0:34.012 H245:8259dd0 H245 Received open channel ack: T-102,
state=AwaitingEstablishment

0:34.012 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP OnReceiveOpenAck

0:34.013 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP SetRemoteSocketInfo: control channel,
new=217.82.7.44:5005, local=80.134.251.111:5002-5003,
remote=217.82.7.44:5004-5005

0:34.014 H245:8259dd0 RTP_UDP SetRemoteSocketInfo: data channel,
new=217.82.7.44:5004, local=80.134.251.111:5002-5003,
remote=217.82.7.44:5004-5005

0:34.015 LogChanTx:828b830 H323RTP Transmit G.711-uLaw-64k thread started:
rate=240 time=30ms size=30*8=240

0:34.017 RTP Jitter:81ea858 RTP Jitter RTP receive thread started

0:34.018 LogChanTx:8264488 H323RTP Transmit H.261 thread started: rate=0
time=0ms size=1*2000=2000

0:34.023 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:34.025 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: command miscellaneousCommand

0:34.026 H245:8259dd0 Codec OnMiscellaneousCommand: videoFastUpdatePicture

0:34.026 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:34.027 H245:8259dd0 H245 Receiving PDU: command miscellaneousCommand

0:34.027 H245:8259dd0 Codecs H245 Miscellaneous Command :
videoTemporalSpatialTradeoff 29

0:34.028 H245:8259dd0 Codec OnVideoTemporalSpatialTradeoff()

0:34.028 H245:8259dd0 Codec OnMiscellaneousCommand:
videoTemporalSpatialTradeOff

0:34.029 H245:8259dd0 H323 InternalEstablishedConnectionCheck:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection fastStartState=FastStartDisabled

0:34.043 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:34.043 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:34.216 LogChanTx:828b830 H323RTP Transmit start of talk burst: 240

0:34.243 LogChanRx:81e9730 Got 16bit PCM DTMF &#0;

0:34.553 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:34.554 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:34.601 LogChanRx:829fb50 RTP OnReceiverReport: ssrc=3786174224

0:34.601 LogChanRx:829fb50 RTP OnReceiverReport RR: ssrc=4193115180
fraction=0 lost=0 last_seq=47279 jitter=264 lsr=0.000 dlsr=0.000

0:34.602 LogChanRx:829fb50 RTP OnSourceDescription: ssrc=3786174224

item[0]: type=CNAME data="DFG"

item[1]: type=NAME data="DFG"

0:34.604 RTP Jitter:81ea858 RTP OnReceiverReport: ssrc=905823596

0:34.605 RTP Jitter:81ea858 RTP OnSourceDescription: ssrc=905823596

item[0]: type=CNAME data="DFG"

item[1]: type=NAME data="DFG"

0:34.801 LogChanRx:829fb50 RTP First data: ver=2 pt=H261 psz=1055 m=0 x=0
seq=20294 ts=84009240 src=3786174224 ccnt=0

0:34.802 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 84009240

0:34.802 LogChanRx:829fb50 H261 Detected loss of one video packet. 2 !=
20294 Will recover.

0:34.804 LogChanRx:829fb50 H245 Sending PDU: command miscellaneousCommand

0:34.806 LogChanRx:829fb50 H261 Lost or out of order packet, using values
from H261 header

0:34.810 LogChanRx:829fb50 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

0:35.053 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 84033540

0:35.063 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:35.063 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:35.217 LogChanTx:8264488 H323RTP Transmitter sent timestamp 18018

0:35.333 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 84057930

0:35.535 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Receiving PDU: releaseComplete

0:35.535 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Handling PDU: ReleaseComplete
callRef=26496

0:35.536 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Clearing connection
ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 reason=EndedByRemoteUser

0:35.537 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Call end reason for
ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 set to EndedByRemoteUser

0:35.537 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Sending release complete PDU:
callRef=26496

0:35.539 H225 Answer:82595c8 H245 Sending PDU: command endSessionCommand

0:35.540 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Sending PDU: releaseComplete

0:35.540 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Clearing connection
ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 reason=EndedByTransportFail

0:35.541 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Signal channel closed.

0:35.543 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

0:35.544 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 closing:
connectionState=EstablishedConnection

0:35.544 H323 Cleaner H323RTP Cleaning up RTP T-102

0:35.544 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 2, Shutting down write.

0:35.545 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaning up T-102

0:35.573 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:35.574 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:35.589 LogChanTx:8264488 RTP_UDP Session 2, Write shutdown.

0:35.589 LogChanTx:8264488 H323RTP Transmit H.261 thread ended

0:35.598 H323 Cleaner H323 Stopped sending logical channel: H.261-QCIF <6>

0:35.599 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaned up T-102

0:35.599 H323 Cleaner H323RTP Cleaning up RTP R-257

0:35.600 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 2, Shutting down read.

0:35.600 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaning up R-257

0:35.601 LogChanRx:829fb50 RTP_UDP Session 2, Read shutdown.

0:35.601 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receive H.261 thread ended

0:35.613 H323 Cleaner H323 Stopped receiving logical channel: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:35.613 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaned up R-257

0:35.614 H323 Cleaner H323RTP Cleaning up RTP R-258

0:35.614 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 1, Shutting down read.

0:35.615 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaning up R-258

0:35.615 RTP Jitter:81ea858 RTP_UDP Session 1, Read shutdown.

0:35.615 RTP Jitter:81ea858 RTP Jitter RTP receive thread ended

0:35.621 LogChanRx:81e9730 H323RTP Receive G.711-uLaw-64k thread ended

0:35.629 H245:8259dd0 H245 Read error:

0:35.629 H245:8259dd0 H323 Clearing connection ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496
reason=EndedByTransportFail

0:35.630 H245:8259dd0 H245 Control channel closed.

0:35.633 H323 Cleaner H323 Stopped receiving logical channel:
G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:35.633 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaned up R-258

0:35.634 H323 Cleaner H323RTP Cleaning up RTP T-101

0:35.634 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 1, Shutting down write.

0:35.634 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaning up T-101

0:35.658 LogChanTx:828b830 RTP_UDP Session 1, Write shutdown.

0:35.658 LogChanTx:828b830 H323RTP Transmit G.711-uLaw-64k thread ended

0:35.749 H323 Cleaner H323 Stopped sending logical channel:
G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>

0:35.750 H323 Cleaner LogChan Cleaned up T-101

0:35.750 H323 Cleaner RTP Releasing session 2

0:35.751 H323 Cleaner H323 Bandwidth request: -240.0kb/s, available:
9392.0kb/s

0:35.752 H323 Cleaner RTP Releasing session 2

0:35.752 H323 Cleaner RTP Deleting session 2

0:35.752 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 2, Shutting down read.

0:35.753 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 2, Shutting down write.

0:35.754 H323 Cleaner RTP Final statistics:

packetsSent = 26

octetsSent = 21939

averageSendTime = 0

maximumSendTime = 0

minimumSendTime = 0

packetsReceived = 6

octetsReceived = 4391

packetsLost = 0

packetsTooLate = 0

packetsOutOfOrder = 0

averageReceiveTime= 0

maximumReceiveTime= 0

minimumReceiveTime= 0

jitter = 15

0:35.756 H323 Cleaner H323 Bandwidth request: -240.0kb/s, available:
9632.0kb/s

0:35.757 H323 Cleaner RTP Releasing session 1

0:35.757 H323 Cleaner H323 Bandwidth request: -64.0kb/s, available:
9872.0kb/s

0:35.758 H323 Cleaner RTP Releasing session 1

0:35.758 H323 Cleaner RTP Deleting session 1

0:35.759 H323 Cleaner RTP Removing jitter buffer

0:35.759 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 1, Shutting down read.

0:35.760 H323 Cleaner RTP_UDP Session 1, Shutting down write.

0:35.760 H323 Cleaner RTP Final statistics:

packetsSent = 48

octetsSent = 11520

averageSendTime = 0

maximumSendTime = 0

minimumSendTime = 0

packetsReceived = 0

octetsReceived = 0

packetsLost = 0

packetsTooLate = 0

packetsOutOfOrder = 0

averageReceiveTime= 0

maximumReceiveTime= 0

minimumReceiveTime= 0

jitter = 0

0:35.762 H323 Cleaner H323 Bandwidth request: -64.0kb/s, available:
9936.0kb/s

0:35.763 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close

0:36.625 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTermination for
H245:8259dd0

0:36.625 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close

0:36.626 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTermination for H225
Answer:82595c8

0:36.626 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 terminated.

0:37.647 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1

0:38.010 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLimits. 160x120 --
352x288

0:38.216 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLimits. 160x120 --
352x288

0:38.353 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeeded for
converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P

0:38.354 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLimits. 160x120 --
352x288

0:38.354 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

0:38.497 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

0:38.766 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>

0:38.766 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>

0:38.767 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15k{sw} <3>

0:38.767 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k{sw} <4>

0:38.767 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>

0:38.768 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>

0:38.768 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <7>

0:38.769 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k{sw} <8>

0:38.769 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

0:38.770 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>

0:38.771 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 deleted.

0:38.771 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

0:38.772 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

4:04.626 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

4:06.814 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

4:06.815 H323 Cleaner H323 Stopped cleaner thread

4:06.815 gnomemeeting H323 Cleaning up connections

4:06.816 gnomemeeting H323 Deleted endpoint.

---------------------------------------

Funny stuff is that when Gnomemeeting says communication ended by remote
user, the guy I was connected with said his Netmeeting didn't notice the
connection dropped. After about 5 minutes of him waiting to see if finally
Netmeeting realises connection broke, he gave up and closed the connection
himself.

Hope it helps.


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OK, 

I see potential problems in the log :

> 0:29.120 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Set remote application name: "Microsoft®
> NetMeeting® 2.11 181/21324"
> 
Try to use Netmeeting 3.01 at least. I think NM 2.00 will never work,
I'm not even sure it fully respects H.323

> 0:31.699 H245:8259dd0 H323 Selecting G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>
> 

Not a good codec in terms of bandwidth, your friend should install
MS-GSM for Netmeeting (see gnomemeeting.org for details).


> 0:33.969 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Sending open logical channel ACK: sessionID=1
> 
> /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
> 

That could be the source of the problems. The audio device can be opened
for recording, but not for playing what he sends you, in consequence,
the logical channel will be closed or will not be opened and Netmeeting
will clear the connection. You didn't mention me that detail in your
previous mails, but a popup should appear ;)

In clear words, either your soundcard is not full-duplex, or your driver
is not ALSA... Switch to ALSA, and I think it should work.

> 0:35.536 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Clearing connection
> ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 reason=EndedByRemoteUser
> 
> 0:35.537 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Call end reason for
> ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 set to EndedByRemoteUser
> 

> Funny stuff is that when Gnomemeeting says communication ended by remote
> user, the guy I was connected with said his Netmeeting didn't notice the
> connection dropped. After about 5 minutes of him waiting to see if finally
> Netmeeting realises connection broke, he gave up and closed the connection
> himself.

Funny the log indicates that Netmeeting sent a "Clearing" message and
dropped the connection just after.
-- 
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muahaha. cool. :) :) :)

We had same prob with Netmeeting 3.01 so that is why he downgraded (in hope
it would work).  I didn't bother to install the MS-GSM as it was a video
prob. He had it installed on 3.01 and still same probs. Now I will probably
ask him to install it again.

BTW, I see the log message (missed it before) and I still wonder why does it
happen only when he connects video... :/ Without him sending video we can
stay connected for as much as we want...

And I do have alsa installed. It is an onboard soundcard from the AC97
series. i.e.:
above snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0

I will try to disable the sound on board and install a new soundcard and see
if that helps. Maybe also upgrade alsa...
ALSA sound driver (version 0.9.0rc2)

Thx for the help. I will let you  know if things get better. :)

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> OK,
>
> I see potential problems in the log :
>
> > 0:29.120 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Set remote application name:
"Microsoft®
> > NetMeeting® 2.11 181/21324"
> >
> Try to use Netmeeting 3.01 at least. I think NM 2.00 will never work,
> I'm not even sure it fully respects H.323
>
> > 0:31.699 H245:8259dd0 H323 Selecting G.711-uLaw-64k{sw} <2>
> >
>
> Not a good codec in terms of bandwidth, your friend should install
> MS-GSM for Netmeeting (see gnomemeeting.org for details).
>
>
> > 0:33.969 H245:8259dd0 H323RTP Sending open logical channel ACK:
sessionID=1
> >
> > /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
> >
>
> That could be the source of the problems. The audio device can be opened
> for recording, but not for playing what he sends you, in consequence,
> the logical channel will be closed or will not be opened and Netmeeting
> will clear the connection. You didn't mention me that detail in your
> previous mails, but a popup should appear ;)
>
> In clear words, either your soundcard is not full-duplex, or your driver
> is not ALSA... Switch to ALSA, and I think it should work.
>
> > 0:35.536 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Clearing connection
> > ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 reason=EndedByRemoteUser
> >
> > 0:35.537 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Call end reason for
> > ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 set to EndedByRemoteUser
> >
>
> > Funny stuff is that when Gnomemeeting says communication ended by remote
> > user, the guy I was connected with said his Netmeeting didn't notice the
> > connection dropped. After about 5 minutes of him waiting to see if
finally
> > Netmeeting realises connection broke, he gave up and closed the
connection
> > himself.
>
> Funny the log indicates that Netmeeting sent a "Clearing" message and
> dropped the connection just after.
> --
> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
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oh... almost forgot... I have some other logs which don't have that
/device/sound/dsp device busy when connection breaks... Are you sure that's
the cause?
I am going to try changing the soundcard anyway as I don't have anything to
lose, but wanted to make sure I am on the right way... :)


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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 00:34, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> oh... almost forgot... I have some other logs which don't have that
> /device/sound/dsp device busy when connection breaks... Are you sure that's
> the cause?

No, we can't be sure.
I'm just sure that Netmeeting is the cause, unfortunately, and that
Netmeeting is not opensource, so there is not much we can do about it...

Perhaps try to start video from the beginning, not during the call, I'm
not sure GnomeMeeting deals correctly with that, I never tried. 

> I am going to try changing the soundcard anyway as I don't have anything to
> lose, but wanted to make sure I am on the right way... :)
> 
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We tried with video send enabled and it didn't help. The only thing which
appears in all logs before dropping the connection is:

0:34.801 LogChanRx:829fb50 RTP First data: ver=2 pt=H261 psz=1055 m=0 x=0
seq=20294 ts=84009240 src=3786174224 ccnt=0

0:34.802 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 84009240

0:34.802 LogChanRx:829fb50 H261 Detected loss of one video packet. 2 !=
20294 Will recover.

0:34.804 LogChanRx:829fb50 H245 Sending PDU: command miscellaneousCommand

0:34.806 LogChanRx:829fb50 H261 Lost or out of order packet, using values
from H261 header

0:34.810 LogChanRx:829fb50 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

0:35.053 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 84033540

0:35.063 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 1

0:35.063 gnomemeeting RTP Found existing session 2

0:35.217 LogChanTx:8264488 H323RTP Transmitter sent timestamp 18018

0:35.333 LogChanRx:829fb50 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 84057930

0:35.535 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Receiving PDU: releaseComplete

0:35.535 H225 Answer:82595c8 H225 Handling PDU: ReleaseComplete
callRef=26496

0:35.536 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Clearing connection
ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 reason=EndedByRemoteUser

0:35.537 H225 Answer:82595c8 H323 Call end reason for
ip$217.82.7.44:4348/26496 set to EndedByRemoteUser

------------------------ end of partial log 1 --------------

11:33.365 LogChanRx:82700b8 RTP First data: ver=2 pt=H261 psz=931 m=0 x=0
seq=34385 ts=44911890 src=1622867419 ccnt=0

11:33.366 LogChanRx:82700b8 H323RTP Receiver written timestamp 44911890

11:33.366 LogChanRx:82700b8 H261 Detected loss of one video packet. 2 !=
34385 Will recover.

11:33.367 LogChanRx:82700b8 H245 Sending PDU: command miscellaneousCommand

11:33.369 LogChanRx:82700b8 H261 Lost or out of order packet, using values
from H261 header

11:33.397 LogChanRx:82700b8 PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

11:33.423 LogChanTx:82c2b38 RTP Transmit statistics: packets=901
octets=216240 avgTime=30 maxTime=47 minTime=0

11:33.558 H225 Answer:82c0d78 H225 Receiving PDU: releaseComplete

11:33.560 H225 Answer:82c0d78 H225 Handling PDU: ReleaseComplete
callRef=11472

11:33.560 H225 Answer:82c0d78 H323 Clearing connection
ip$217.82.7.44:4588/11472 reason=EndedByRemoteUser

11:33.561 H225 Answer:82c0d78 H323 Call end reason for
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I am wondering what happens when video packets get lost... :/ What does
gnomemeeting do in such case?

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> Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 00:34, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> > oh... almost forgot... I have some other logs which don't have that
> > /device/sound/dsp device busy when connection breaks... Are you sure
that's
> > the cause?
>
> No, we can't be sure.
> I'm just sure that Netmeeting is the cause, unfortunately, and that
> Netmeeting is not opensource, so there is not much we can do about it...
>
> Perhaps try to start video from the beginning, not during the call, I'm
> not sure GnomeMeeting deals correctly with that, I never tried.
>
> > I am going to try changing the soundcard anyway as I don't have anything
to
> > lose, but wanted to make sure I am on the right way... :)
> >
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> 
> I am wondering what happens when video packets get lost... :/ What does
> gnomemeeting do in such case?

It tries to recover, but I can assure you it is not asking to the remote
to cut the connection.

Your problem is very weird, I also mailed Equivalence (the OpenH323
authors) about it, and they confirm it is weird, but can't really help
more than I am. Perhaps you could try with an XP machine on your LAN to
see if it happens. I personally only have Millenium on my laptop for
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Shucks... I don't have any XP machine (only Linux firewall, Win2k and
win98SE)... and he also tried with win98SE and same thing... :/ I will
also try again with the win98SE in my lan and move the camera to that
PC. Since connection dropping happens only when Netmeeting is sending
video I guess I can test without a camera on Gnomemeeting (I have only
one webcam).

Can it be that somehow Netmeeting waits for some aknowledgement of
received packet and "doesn't like" the answer it gets from Gnomemeeting
or doesn't fer any answer about the lost packet(s) and decides to close
the connection?

Is there any way I he can start Netmeeting with some debug info so we
can see what happens? Or is there any simple way to make a packetdump
on his PC and try to work it out from there? I say "simple" cause he
isn't programmer and he might have probs if procedure is too
complicated... Unfortunatelly he is about 300Km away from me and I
won't be able to go and see what the heck he is doing there for a
looooong time...

I saw that at least for Netmeeting 3.01 there is a SDK. I am a
programmer but it has been a long time since I used C/C++ and never
programed audio/video applications... Otherwise I would have tried to
look into the code myself and see if there is anything weird in
there... Is there anything in their SDK which could help trace the
prob?

BTW, where can I get the 0.95? Except CVS I didn't see any tarball or
such. Maybe I get better luck with 0.95... Where can I find a changelog
for 0.95 anyway?

Thx. for the help. If I can help in anyway you guys with the project
just let me know.

Damien Sandras schrieb:
> 
> > 
> > I am wondering what happens when video packets get
> lost... :/ What does
> > gnomemeeting do in such case?
> 
> It tries to recover, but I can assure you it is not
> asking to the remote
> to cut the connection.
> 
> Your problem is very weird, I also mailed Equivalence
> (the OpenH323
> authors) about it, and they confirm it is weird, but
> can't really help
> more than I am. Perhaps you could try with an XP machine
> on your LAN to
> see if it happens. I personally only have Millenium on my
> laptop for
> testing.
> -- 
> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
> 
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> I am wondering what happens when video packets get lost... :/ What does
> gnomemeeting do in such case?
> 

I was just thinking to that... Packets loss can not influence the
connection as you only loose packets on reception, not on emission.
I only see 3 possibilities:
- something in Netmeeting XP that prevents it to work with something
else than Netmeeting 
- packet loss from you to him
- firewall problem on his side


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BTW, I saw in the logs (if I interpreted that right) that he sent video
in format H.261 QCIF. Is there a special decoder for H.261? What
package contains that thing (maybe upgrading that package might help)?

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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 10:30, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> Shucks... I don't have any XP machine (only Linux firewall, Win2k and
> win98SE)... and he also tried with win98SE and same thing... :/ I will

It works perfectly for many users in 98 and 2000.


> 
> Can it be that somehow Netmeeting waits for some aknowledgement of
> received packet and "doesn't like" the answer it gets from Gnomemeeting
> or doesn't fer any answer about the lost packet(s) and decides to close
> the connection?
> 

No, not possible, both respect the H.323 protocol, Equivalence has
tested his library a lot and the library is far more conform to H.323
than Netmeeting. Moreover, I know many users who have used GnomeMeeting
with Netmeeting since the beginning without any problem.

> Is there any way I he can start Netmeeting with some debug info so we
> can see what happens? Or is there any simple way to make a packetdump

No, no way that I know, but it doesn't mean it is not possible.

> on his PC and try to work it out from there? I say "simple" cause he

All we can get are raw packets, not very useful. The only thing that
could be useful would be if Netmeeting was telling why it disconnects.

> isn't programmer and he might have probs if procedure is too
> complicated... Unfortunatelly he is about 300Km away from me and I
> won't be able to go and see what the heck he is doing there for a
> looooong time...
> 
> I saw that at least for Netmeeting 3.01 there is a SDK. I am a
> programmer but it has been a long time since I used C/C++ and never
> programed audio/video applications... Otherwise I would have tried to
> look into the code myself and see if there is anything weird in
> there... Is there anything in their SDK which could help trace the
> prob?
> 

I'm a Linux programmer and have no clue about the Netmeeting SDK.
If you really want to communicate with him and think that the problem is
related to Netmeeting and not to his configuration, you can always try
OpenPhone : http://www.openh323.org/code.html#windows

> BTW, where can I get the 0.95? Except CVS I didn't see any tarball or
> such. Maybe I get better luck with 0.95... Where can I find a changelog
> for 0.95 anyway?

in CVS, 0.95 is not released yet. We have binary packages for Redhat 8
and Debian SID. Mail me privately if you want the URL (we can't publish
it on the mailing list for bandwidth reasons).


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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 10:34, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> BTW, I saw in the logs (if I interpreted that right) that he sent video
> in format H.261 QCIF. Is there a special decoder for H.261? What
> package contains that thing (maybe upgrading that package might help)?

H.261 is code from VIC (university of Columbian iirc) and is included in
OpenH323. That code is of good quality and pretty old and tested.
QCIF is only the size. It means small size.

I have one idea though, but it is purely hypothetical:
- it does work only if he is not sending video, ie if he is not sending
much data. Couldn't it be possible that his DSL is of extremely bad
quality and reduces downloads a lot when there is much upload? If so,
some packets sent by GnomeMeeting could be dropped and Netmeeting could
think the connection is broken. I know it works for other Netmeeting
users, but they are using H.263 which is using less bandwidth than
H.261, we can't include it in GM for legal reasons.
Tell him to watch his bandwidth and to reduce video quality.

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Cool. I always wondered if there is such a freeware proggie for Win32
and couldn't find any. :) Thx.

BTW in case probs arise also with OpenPhone, is there at least a way
for this app to get some debug info?

Damien Sandras schrieb:
> Le jeu 19/12/2002 =E0 10:30, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de
> a =E9crit :
> > Shucks... I don't have any XP machine (only Linux
> firewall, Win2k and
> > win98SE)... and he also tried with win98SE and same
> thing... :/ I will
>=20
> It works perfectly for many users in 98 and 2000.
>=20
>=20
> >=20
> > Can it be that somehow Netmeeting waits for some
> aknowledgement of
> > received packet and "doesn't like" the answer it gets
> from Gnomemeeting
> > or doesn't fer any answer about the lost packet(s) and
> decides to close
> > the connection?
> >=20
>=20
> No, not possible, both respect the H.323 protocol,
> Equivalence has
> tested his library a lot and the library is far more
> conform to H.323
> than Netmeeting. Moreover, I know many users who have
> used GnomeMeeting
> with Netmeeting since the beginning without any problem.
>=20
> > Is there any way I he can start Netmeeting with some
> debug info so we
> > can see what happens? Or is there any simple way to
> make a packetdump
>=20
> No, no way that I know, but it doesn't mean it is not
> possible.
>=20
> > on his PC and try to work it out from there? I say
> "simple" cause he
>=20
> All we can get are raw packets, not very useful. The only
> thing that
> could be useful would be if Netmeeting was telling why it
> disconnects.
>=20
> > isn't programmer and he might have probs if procedure
> is too
> > complicated... Unfortunatelly he is about 300Km away
> from me and I
> > won't be able to go and see what the heck he is doing
> there for a
> > looooong time...
> >=20
> > I saw that at least for Netmeeting 3.01 there is a SDK.
> I am a
> > programmer but it has been a long time since I used
> C/C++ and never
> > programed audio/video applications... Otherwise I would
> have tried to
> > look into the code myself and see if there is anything
> weird in
> > there... Is there anything in their SDK which could
> help trace the
> > prob?
> >=20
>=20
> I'm a Linux programmer and have no clue about the
> Netmeeting SDK.
> If you really want to communicate with him and think that
> the problem is
> related to Netmeeting and not to his configuration, you
> can always try
> OpenPhone : http://www.openh323.org/code.html#windows
>=20
> > BTW, where can I get the 0.95? Except CVS I didn't see
> any tarball or
> > such. Maybe I get better luck with 0.95... Where can I
> find a changelog
> > for 0.95 anyway?
>=20
> in CVS, 0.95 is not released yet. We have binary packages
> for Redhat 8
> and Debian SID. Mail me privately if you want the URL (we
> can't publish
> it on the mailing list for bandwidth reasons).
>=20
>=20
> --=20
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> v_/_=09
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> callto://ils.seconix.com/dsandras@seconix.com
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OK. I asked him to reduce the quality yesterday and he said he had no
clue how to do that after fondling with it for about 10 minutes.:)I
will try to see if I can figure it out and help him on that one. :)

Anyway, you might be right with the compression and bandwidth. So what
can I do to make gnomemeeting use H.263? Is there any way to install
such a codec on my linux machine and tell gnomemeeting to use it?

And if I install it, how can we make sure our communication goes over
H.263.


Damien Sandras schrieb:
> Le jeu 19/12/2002 =E0 10:34, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de
> a =E9crit :
> > BTW, I saw in the logs (if I interpreted that right)
> that he sent video
> > in format H.261 QCIF. Is there a special decoder for
> H.261? What
> > package contains that thing (maybe upgrading that
> package might help)?
>=20
> H.261 is code from VIC (university of Columbian iirc) and
> is included in
> OpenH323. That code is of good quality and pretty old and
> tested.
> QCIF is only the size. It means small size.
>=20
> I have one idea though, but it is purely hypothetical:
> - it does work only if he is not sending video, ie if he
> is not sending
> much data. Couldn't it be possible that his DSL is of
> extremely bad
> quality and reduces downloads a lot when there is much
> upload? If so,
> some packets sent by GnomeMeeting could be dropped and
> Netmeeting could
> think the connection is broken. I know it works for other
> Netmeeting
> users, but they are using H.263 which is using less
> bandwidth than
> H.261, we can't include it in GM for legal reasons.
> Tell him to watch his bandwidth and to reduce video
> quality.
>=20
> --=20
>  _	Damien Sandras
> (o-	GnomeMeeting: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
> //\	FOSDEM 2003:  http://www.fosdem.org
> v_/_=09
> 	H.323 phone:=20
> callto://ils.seconix.com/dsandras@seconix.com
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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 10:44, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> Cool. I always wondered if there is such a freeware proggie for Win32
> and couldn't find any. :) Thx.
> 
> BTW in case probs arise also with OpenPhone, is there at least a way
> for this app to get some debug info?
> 

Yes, the same debug as with GnomeMeeting.
GnomeMeeting should be ported to windows too in the beginning of next
year (in 2003).
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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 10:48, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> OK. I asked him to reduce the quality yesterday and he said he had no
> clue how to do that after fondling with it for about 10 minutes.:)I
> will try to see if I can figure it out and help him on that one. :)
> 
> Anyway, you might be right with the compression and bandwidth. So what
> can I do to make gnomemeeting use H.263? Is there any way to install
> such a codec on my linux machine and tell gnomemeeting to use it?
> 
> And if I install it, how can we make sure our communication goes over
> H.263.
> 

No, I told you there were legal reasons why we can't add H.263 into
GnomeMeeting. 

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Argh... which starts me thinking about his MTU... Hmmm... We have a DSL
connection monitor from our provider so I will ask him to open it
during the connection and see upload and download rates.

Damien Sandras schrieb:
> I have one idea though, but it is purely hypothetical:
> - it does work only if he is not sending video, ie if he
> is not sending
> much data. Couldn't it be possible that his DSL is of
> extremely bad
> quality and reduces downloads a lot when there is much
> upload? If so,
> some packets sent by GnomeMeeting could be dropped and
> Netmeeting could
> think the connection is broken. I know it works for other
> Netmeeting
> users, but they are using H.263 which is using less
> bandwidth than
> H.261, we can't include it in GM for legal reasons.
> Tell him to watch his bandwidth and to reduce video
> quality.
> 
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He he. :)

I understood that, but you could make gnomemeeting be able to use
external codecs ( selected from options for ex.) and maybe someone
(thirdparty) would develop such a codec for linux. O:)

> No, I told you there were legal reasons why we can't add
> H.263 into
> GnomeMeeting. 
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adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de wrote:

>OK. I asked him to reduce the quality yesterday and he said he had no
>clue how to do that after fondling with it for about 10 minutes.:)I
>will try to see if I can figure it out and help him on that one. :)
>  
>

Adrien,

If you want to do some testing with other Netmeeting client ( other then
your friend's ) you can drop me an e-mail and I'll give you my ICQ number
(I hope you use it, if not, I'll tell you a way to use it without 
installing a client),
and you can call me and test all you need .
I'm used to work with netmeeting and I use it a lot with my brother ( 
from Portugal
to Netherlands - Cable to ADSL ).
I use W2K Professional on Cable and a Vigor Router .

Happy season Greetings to all !

João Pedro

jpedro.vf@netcabo.pt



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Sorry to be persistant :) , but...=20
A quick search revealed the following:

XAnim seems to be having/using the H.263 codec.

http://xanim.va.pubnix.com/xa_copylic.html

And there is one more decoder:

http://www-mobile.ecs.soton.ac.uk/peter/robust-h263/robust.html

If I install any of the above do I also get a codec installed? And if
so, is there any way to tell Gnomemeeting to use it (in config files or
such)?

Damien Sandras schrieb:
> Le jeu 19/12/2002 =E0 10:48, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de
> a =E9crit :
> > OK. I asked him to reduce the quality yesterday and he
> said he had no
> > clue how to do that after fondling with it for about 10
> minutes.:)I
> > will try to see if I can figure it out and help him on
> that one. :)
> >=20
> > Anyway, you might be right with the compression and
> bandwidth. So what
> > can I do to make gnomemeeting use H.263? Is there any
> way to install
> > such a codec on my linux machine and tell gnomemeeting
> to use it?
> >=20
> > And if I install it, how can we make sure our
> communication goes over
> > H.263.
> >=20
>=20
> No, I told you there were legal reasons why we can't add
> H.263 into
> GnomeMeeting.=20
>=20
> --=20
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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 11:41, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> Sorry to be persistant :) , but... 
> A quick search revealed the following:
> 
> XAnim seems to be having/using the H.263 codec.
> 
> http://xanim.va.pubnix.com/xa_copylic.html
> 
> And there is one more decoder:
> 
> http://www-mobile.ecs.soton.ac.uk/peter/robust-h263/robust.html
> 
> If I install any of the above do I also get a codec installed? And if
> so, is there any way to tell Gnomemeeting to use it (in config files or
> such)?

You can code it in OpenH323. There is no magic like you seem to believe
it...


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Thx. That might prove usefull as my friend tends to lose his patience
prety quick when we test and gives up. So I cannot test all the
possible things. :)

I will contact you as soon as he gives up testing again. :)

And BTW I don't have ICQ.

Jo=E3o Pedro schrieb:
> adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de wrote:
>=20
> >OK. I asked him to reduce the quality yesterday and he
> said he had no
> >clue how to do that after fondling with it for about 10
> minutes.:)I
> >will try to see if I can figure it out and help him on
> that one. :)
> > =20
> >
>=20
> Adrien,
>=20
> If you want to do some testing with other Netmeeting
> client ( other then
> your friend's ) you can drop me an e-mail and I'll give
> you my ICQ number
> (I hope you use it, if not, I'll tell you a way to use it
> without=20
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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 11:52, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> Thx. That might prove usefull as my friend tends to lose his patience
> prety quick when we test and gives up. So I cannot test all the
> possible things. :)
> 
> I will contact you as soon as he gives up testing again. :)
> 
> And BTW I don't have ICQ.
> 

I think that even if your friend doesn't loose his patience, it is a
very good test that you have to do because it will permit to determine
if :
- the problem is on your side (it doesn't work with Joao either)
- the problem is on his side (it does work with Joao)

Don't be shy ;)
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I guess you are right. Anyway, I will try to conduct first some local
tests again this afternoon when I get home from work. I updated almost
all the packages I could find in newer version related to this problem
for my distribution (alsa, pwlib, xpm, etc) so I wanna see if it still
works at least local after all this. :D

I already bought some cheap duplex souncard (which I know is supported
by my distro) to try if all else fails and another networkcard for my
win2k PC to see if a win32<->win32 connection works. Now I just hope I
don't have to also buy another webcam to be able to fully test. :) BTW,
is there a list of cams which have support included in the kernel
(2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to buy
another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)

And you just gave me an idea with your previous email. I found some
other linux proggies which use H.263. If I get depresive enough about
it I might look into their sources and try to copy the code to
Gnomemeeting and see if it works. That is if I remember the needed
stuff from the time I coded C/C++. :D

BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)

Damien Sandras schrieb:
> Le jeu 19/12/2002 =E0 11:52, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de
> a =E9crit :
> > Thx. That might prove usefull as my friend tends to
> lose his patience
> > prety quick when we test and gives up. So I cannot test
> all the
> > possible things. :)
> >=20
> > I will contact you as soon as he gives up testing
> again. :)
> >=20
> > And BTW I don't have ICQ.
> >=20
>=20
> I think that even if your friend doesn't loose his
> patience, it is a
> very good test that you have to do because it will permit
> to determine
> if :
> - the problem is on your side (it doesn't work with Joao
> either)
> - the problem is on his side (it does work with Joao)
>=20
> Don't be shy ;)
> --=20
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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 12:11, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :

> (2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to buy
> another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)
> 

Philips-chipset based cameras (Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000, Philips
ToUCAM Pro) are the best: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/


> 
> BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)
> 

In a few months if everything goes well, I'm not doing the port myself
as I don't like window$ ;)



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Hi,

On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de wrote:

> Thx. That might prove usefull as my friend tends to lose his patience
> prety quick when we test and gives up. So I cannot test all the

use vnc to control his computer :-) and do tests


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lol. try to vnc on 2 ADSL conenction with 128Kb/s upload a piece and
let me know if you have any bandwidth left for videoconferencing. :D

Carles Pina i Estany schrieb:
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> On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de
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> all the
> 
> use vnc to control his computer :-) and do tests
> 
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Hi,

On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de wrote:

> lol. try to vnc on 2 ADSL conenction with 128Kb/s upload a piece and
> let me know if you have any bandwidth left for videoconferencing. :D

yes, I know because I have test it :-)

but to do the test is enough :-)

try with openphone from windows, I think it is a good software

good luck


>
> Carles Pina i Estany schrieb:
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> > On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de
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> >
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> > lose his patience
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> > all the
> >
> > use vnc to control his computer :-) and do tests
> >
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Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem
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OK. I am trying to cotact Joao for the testing. In the meantime I tried to
connect to some random peeps which have netmeeting and got this in the debug
output:

-------------------
8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <10>

8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 RFC2833 Handler created

8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Created new connection: ip$local

host/7266

8:07.901 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Started call thread

8:08.149 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323TCP Started connection: host=24.50.

147.246:1503, if=80.134.254.176:30005, handle=31

8:08.150 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending Setup PDU

8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Check for Fast start by local en

dpoint

8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H245 Default OnSelectLogicalChannels,

FastStartDisabled

8:08.152 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: setup

8:08.153 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Reading PDUs: callRef=7266

8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Read error (104): Connection res

et by peer

8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost

/7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail

8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Call end reason for ip$localhost

/7266 set to EndedByTransportFail

8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending release complete PDU: ca

llRef=7266

8:08.412 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: releaseComplete

8:08.413 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Write PDU failed (32): Broken pi

pe

8:08.414 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost

/7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail

8:08.414 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 clo

sing: connectionState=AwaitingSignalConnect

8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close

8:08.416 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTerminat

ion for H225 Caller:82695d8

8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 H323Transport::Close

8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Signal channel closed.

8:08.433 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 ter

minated.

8:09.544 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1

8:09.894 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim

its. 160x120 -- 352x288

8:10.097 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim

its. 160x120 -- 352x288

8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeed

ed for converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P

8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim its. 160x120 --
352x288

8:10.239 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

8:10.385 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144

8:10.594 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>

8:10.600 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>

8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15 k{sw} <3>

8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k {sw} <4>

8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>

8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>

8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k {sw} <7>

8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k {sw} <8>

8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>

8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>

8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 del eted.

8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections

-------------------

what the heck is the localhost doing in there?!? except upgrading all
libraries and recompiling the kernel to suit my camera requirements I didn't
change anything. :/

----- Original Message -----
From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem


> Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 12:11, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
>
> > (2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to buy
> > another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)
> >
>
> Philips-chipset based cameras (Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000, Philips
> ToUCAM Pro) are the best: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
>
>
> >
> > BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)
> >
>
> In a few months if everything goes well, I'm not doing the port myself
> as I don't like window$ ;)
>
>
>
> --
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From derek@indranet.co.nz  Thu Dec 19 16:25:33 2002
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Hi,
 I have no idea why sending video causes the windows XP machine to 
quit the call.

My first thought, are there any uses of GM who have been able to talk 
video and audio to a win XP machine?

However, reading the log provides some clues.

You can try changing the h261codec.cxx file so the h261 codec does not
send a miscellaneous command on detecting the loss of one video packet.


        PTRACE(3,"H261\tDetected loss of one video packet. "
          << lastSequenceNumber << " != "
          << frame.GetSequenceNumber() << " Will recover.");
        lastSequenceNumber = frame.GetSequenceNumber();
/***/   SendMiscCommand(H245_MiscellaneousCommand_type::e_lostPartialPicture);

Thus, 
 remove the line marked /****/

Recompile, and try it.

Thanks,
 Derek.



On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:

> OK. I am trying to cotact Joao for the testing. In the meantime I tried to
> connect to some random peeps which have netmeeting and got this in the debug
> output:
> 
> -------------------
> 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> 
> 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 RFC2833 Handler created
> 
> 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Created new connection: ip$local
> 
> host/7266
> 
> 8:07.901 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Started call thread
> 
> 8:08.149 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323TCP Started connection: host=24.50.
> 
> 147.246:1503, if=80.134.254.176:30005, handle=31
> 
> 8:08.150 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending Setup PDU
> 
> 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Check for Fast start by local en
> 
> dpoint
> 
> 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H245 Default OnSelectLogicalChannels,
> 
> FastStartDisabled
> 
> 8:08.152 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: setup
> 
> 8:08.153 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Reading PDUs: callRef=7266
> 
> 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Read error (104): Connection res
> 
> et by peer
> 
> 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> 
> /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> 
> 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Call end reason for ip$localhost
> 
> /7266 set to EndedByTransportFail
> 
> 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending release complete PDU: ca
> 
> llRef=7266
> 
> 8:08.412 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: releaseComplete
> 
> 8:08.413 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Write PDU failed (32): Broken pi
> 
> pe
> 
> 8:08.414 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> 
> /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> 
> 8:08.414 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> 
> 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 clo
> 
> sing: connectionState=AwaitingSignalConnect
> 
> 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close
> 
> 8:08.416 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTerminat
> 
> ion for H225 Caller:82695d8
> 
> 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 H323Transport::Close
> 
> 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Signal channel closed.
> 
> 8:08.433 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 ter
> 
> minated.
> 
> 8:09.544 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1
> 
> 8:09.894 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> 
> its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> 
> 8:10.097 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> 
> its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> 
> 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeed
> 
> ed for converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P
> 
> 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim its. 160x120 --
> 352x288
> 
> 8:10.239 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> 
> 8:10.385 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> 
> 8:10.594 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>
> 
> 8:10.600 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>
> 
> 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15 k{sw} <3>
> 
> 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k {sw} <4>
> 
> 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>
> 
> 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>
> 
> 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k {sw} <7>
> 
> 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k {sw} <8>
> 
> 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>
> 
> 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> 
> 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 del eted.
> 
> 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> 
> -------------------
> 
> what the heck is the localhost doing in there?!? except upgrading all
> libraries and recompiling the kernel to suit my camera requirements I didn't
> change anything. :/
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
> To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem
> 
> 
> > Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 12:11, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> >
> > > (2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to buy
> > > another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)
> > >
> >
> > Philips-chipset based cameras (Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000, Philips
> > ToUCAM Pro) are the best: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
> >
> >
> > >
> > > BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)
> > >
> >
> > In a few months if everything goes well, I'm not doing the port myself
> > as I don't like window$ ;)
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >  _ Damien Sandras
> > (o- GnomeMeeting: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
> > //\ FOSDEM 2003:  http://www.fosdem.org
> > v_/_
> > H.323 phone:  callto://ils.seconix.com/dsandras@seconix.com
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
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Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 21:22, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> OK. I am trying to cotact Joao for the testing. In the meantime I tried to
> connect to some random peeps which have netmeeting and got this in the debug
> output:
> 

Do you mean that it failed with Joao ?
The log indicates "Connection reset by peer".
I wonder if your connection setup is correct, same for firewall rules.
I have no more clue about your problem and I think that you will have to
investigate for yourself. There is nothing more I can do, unfortunately,
for your problem remotely.
That log doesn't help, it says "Ended by transport fail", which is the
same kind of error as when you try to connect a down host.



> -------------------
> 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> 
> 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 RFC2833 Handler created
> 
> 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Created new connection: ip$local
> 
> host/7266
> 
> 8:07.901 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Started call thread
> 
> 8:08.149 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323TCP Started connection: host=24.50.
> 
> 147.246:1503, if=80.134.254.176:30005, handle=31
> 
> 8:08.150 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending Setup PDU
> 
> 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Check for Fast start by local en
> 
> dpoint
> 
> 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H245 Default OnSelectLogicalChannels,
> 
> FastStartDisabled
> 
> 8:08.152 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: setup
> 
> 8:08.153 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Reading PDUs: callRef=7266
> 
> 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Read error (104): Connection res
> 
> et by peer
> 
> 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> 
> /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> 
> 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Call end reason for ip$localhost
> 
> /7266 set to EndedByTransportFail
> 
> 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending release complete PDU: ca
> 
> llRef=7266
> 
> 8:08.412 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: releaseComplete
> 
> 8:08.413 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Write PDU failed (32): Broken pi
> 
> pe
> 
> 8:08.414 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> 
> /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> 
> 8:08.414 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> 
> 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 clo
> 
> sing: connectionState=AwaitingSignalConnect
> 
> 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close
> 
> 8:08.416 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTerminat
> 
> ion for H225 Caller:82695d8
> 
> 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 H323Transport::Close
> 
> 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Signal channel closed.
> 
> 8:08.433 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 ter
> 
> minated.
> 
> 8:09.544 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1
> 
> 8:09.894 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> 
> its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> 
> 8:10.097 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> 
> its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> 
> 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeed
> 
> ed for converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P
> 
> 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim its. 160x120 --
> 352x288
> 
> 8:10.239 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> 
> 8:10.385 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> 
> 8:10.594 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>
> 
> 8:10.600 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>
> 
> 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15 k{sw} <3>
> 
> 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k {sw} <4>
> 
> 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>
> 
> 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>
> 
> 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k {sw} <7>
> 
> 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k {sw} <8>
> 
> 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>
> 
> 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> 
> 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 del eted.
> 
> 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> 
> -------------------
> 
> what the heck is the localhost doing in there?!? except upgrading all
> libraries and recompiling the kernel to suit my camera requirements I didn't
> change anything. :/
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
> To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem
> 
> 
> > Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 12:11, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> >
> > > (2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to buy
> > > another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)
> > >
> >
> > Philips-chipset based cameras (Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000, Philips
> > ToUCAM Pro) are the best: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
> >
> >
> > >
> > > BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)
> > >
> >
> > In a few months if everything goes well, I'm not doing the port myself
> > as I don't like window$ ;)
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >  _ Damien Sandras
> > (o- GnomeMeeting: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
> > //\ FOSDEM 2003:  http://www.fosdem.org
> > v_/_
> > H.323 phone:  callto://ils.seconix.com/dsandras@seconix.com
> >
> >
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Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem
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No it didn't fail with Joao as he didn't show up yet. And I was trying to
connect to random peeps from seconix server to see if I can do some testing.
:) I was just wondering why does it appear to try connecting to localhost.

Thx for your patience with me again. :)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem


> Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 21:22, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> > OK. I am trying to cotact Joao for the testing. In the meantime I tried
to
> > connect to some random peeps which have netmeeting and got this in the
debug
> > output:
> >
>
> Do you mean that it failed with Joao ?
> The log indicates "Connection reset by peer".
> I wonder if your connection setup is correct, same for firewall rules.
> I have no more clue about your problem and I think that you will have to
> investigate for yourself. There is nothing more I can do, unfortunately,
> for your problem remotely.
> That log doesn't help, it says "Ended by transport fail", which is the
> same kind of error as when you try to connect a down host.
>
>
>
> > -------------------
> > 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> >
> > 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 RFC2833 Handler created
> >
> > 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Created new connection: ip$local
> >
> > host/7266
> >
> > 8:07.901 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Started call thread
> >
> > 8:08.149 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323TCP Started connection: host=24.50.
> >
> > 147.246:1503, if=80.134.254.176:30005, handle=31
> >
> > 8:08.150 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending Setup PDU
> >
> > 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Check for Fast start by local en
> >
> > dpoint
> >
> > 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H245 Default OnSelectLogicalChannels,
> >
> > FastStartDisabled
> >
> > 8:08.152 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: setup
> >
> > 8:08.153 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Reading PDUs: callRef=7266
> >
> > 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Read error (104): Connection res
> >
> > et by peer
> >
> > 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> >
> > /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> >
> > 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Call end reason for ip$localhost
> >
> > /7266 set to EndedByTransportFail
> >
> > 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending release complete PDU: ca
> >
> > llRef=7266
> >
> > 8:08.412 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: releaseComplete
> >
> > 8:08.413 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Write PDU failed (32): Broken pi
> >
> > pe
> >
> > 8:08.414 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> >
> > /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> >
> > 8:08.414 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> >
> > 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 clo
> >
> > sing: connectionState=AwaitingSignalConnect
> >
> > 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close
> >
> > 8:08.416 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTerminat
> >
> > ion for H225 Caller:82695d8
> >
> > 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 H323Transport::Close
> >
> > 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Signal channel closed.
> >
> > 8:08.433 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 ter
> >
> > minated.
> >
> > 8:09.544 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1
> >
> > 8:09.894 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> >
> > its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> >
> > 8:10.097 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> >
> > its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> >
> > 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeed
> >
> > ed for converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P
> >
> > 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim its. 160x120 --
> > 352x288
> >
> > 8:10.239 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> >
> > 8:10.385 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> >
> > 8:10.594 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>
> >
> > 8:10.600 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>
> >
> > 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15 k{sw} <3>
> >
> > 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k {sw} <4>
> >
> > 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>
> >
> > 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>
> >
> > 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k {sw} <7>
> >
> > 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k {sw} <8>
> >
> > 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>
> >
> > 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> >
> > 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 del eted.
> >
> > 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> >
> > -------------------
> >
> > what the heck is the localhost doing in there?!? except upgrading all
> > libraries and recompiling the kernel to suit my camera requirements I
didn't
> > change anything. :/
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
> > To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem
> >
> >
> > > Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 12:11, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> > >
> > > > (2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to
buy
> > > > another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)
> > > >
> > >
> > > Philips-chipset based cameras (Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000, Philips
> > > ToUCAM Pro) are the best: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)
> > > >
> > >
> > > In a few months if everything goes well, I'm not doing the port myself
> > > as I don't like window$ ;)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >  _ Damien Sandras
> > > (o- GnomeMeeting: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
> > > //\ FOSDEM 2003:  http://www.fosdem.org
> > > v_/_
> > > H.323 phone:  callto://ils.seconix.com/dsandras@seconix.com
> > >
> > >
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Le ven 20/12/2002 à 00:38, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> No it didn't fail with Joao as he didn't show up yet. And I was trying to
> connect to random peeps from seconix server to see if I can do some testing.
> :) I was just wondering why does it appear to try connecting to localhost.
> 
> Thx for your patience with me again. :)
> 

Bad idea, many people on seconix are there with broken setups.

It is not trying to contact localhost, localhost is your machine, and
ip$localhost means 'local connection'.

-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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Joao do you read your emails? I am trying to contact you for some testing.

Or if anyone else wants to help test... But please someone who has
Netmeeting and succesfully connected with it in the past to a gnomemeeting.

Thx. in advance for the help.

----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem


> adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de wrote:
>
> >OK. I asked him to reduce the quality yesterday and he said he had no
> >clue how to do that after fondling with it for about 10 minutes.:)I
> >will try to see if I can figure it out and help him on that one. :)
> >
> >
>
> Adrien,
>
> If you want to do some testing with other Netmeeting client ( other then
> your friend's ) you can drop me an e-mail and I'll give you my ICQ number
> (I hope you use it, if not, I'll tell you a way to use it without
> installing a client),
> and you can call me and test all you need .
> I'm used to work with netmeeting and I use it a lot with my brother (
> from Portugal
> to Netherlands - Cable to ADSL ).
> I use W2K Professional on Cable and a Vigor Router .
>
> Happy season Greetings to all !
>
> João Pedro
>
> jpedro.vf@netcabo.pt
>
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Hi,
I want to use Gnomemeeting on my Red Hat 8.0 linux machine. I am
integrating my linux desktop
with the Windows Domain. So I have some doubts regarding this.

What are the features available with Gnomemeeting?
Can we do everything with Gnomemeeting, whatever we can do with MS
NetMeeting?
Is Whiteboard Sharing, File Trasfer, Application sharing possible with
Gnomemeeting?
Are there any problems with gnomemeeting in communicating with
NetMeeting Users?
What are the features that gnomemeeting lacks in comparison with
NetMeeting?


I would appreciate any sort of help on this. 

Thanks in advance for your help,

Regards,
S.Pradeep Kumar


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Le ven 20/12/2002 à 20:52, Kumar, Pradeep (MED, TCS) a écrit :
> Hi,
> I want to use Gnomemeeting on my Red Hat 8.0 linux machine. I am
> integrating my linux desktop
> with the Windows Domain. So I have some doubts regarding this.
> 
> What are the features available with Gnomemeeting?
> Can we do everything with Gnomemeeting, whatever we can do with MS
> NetMeeting?
> Is Whiteboard Sharing, File Trasfer, Application sharing possible with
> Gnomemeeting?
> Are there any problems with gnomemeeting in communicating with
> NetMeeting Users?
> What are the features that gnomemeeting lacks in comparison with
> NetMeeting?
> 
> 
> I would appreciate any sort of help on this. 
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help,
> 
> Regards,
> S.Pradeep Kumar

Did you by chance have a look at the faq?

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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hi
I have gone through the mailing list archives.
But I still have most of my doubts cleared.

Thanks and Regards
Pradeep

-----Original Message-----
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Le ven 20/12/2002 =E0 20:52, Kumar, Pradeep (MED, TCS) a =E9crit :
> Hi,
> I want to use Gnomemeeting on my Red Hat 8.0 linux machine. I am
> integrating my linux desktop
> with the Windows Domain. So I have some doubts regarding this.
>=20
> What are the features available with Gnomemeeting?
> Can we do everything with Gnomemeeting, whatever we can do with MS
> NetMeeting?
> Is Whiteboard Sharing, File Trasfer, Application sharing possible =
with
> Gnomemeeting?
> Are there any problems with gnomemeeting in communicating with
> NetMeeting Users?
> What are the features that gnomemeeting lacks in comparison with
> NetMeeting?
>=20
>=20
> I would appreciate any sort of help on this.=20
>=20
> Thanks in advance for your help,
>=20
> Regards,
> S.Pradeep Kumar

Did you by chance have a look at the faq?

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In a few words:

- There is no T.120 in GnomeMeeting (application sharing, file
transfert)
- There should be no problem communicating with M$ users and most users
have no problem

For a detailed list of features that GnomeMeeting has and not
Netmeeting, or that Netmeeting has and not GnomeMeeting, you will have
to read the FAQ and try yourself and perhaps contribute back a document
about that. That is the power of OpenSource.

Le ven 20/12/2002 à 20:57, Kumar, Pradeep (MED, TCS) a écrit :
> hi
> I have gone through the mailing list archives.
> But I still have most of my doubts cleared.
> 
> Thanks and Regards
> Pradeep
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PUYDT Julien [mailto:julien.puydt@laposte.net]
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:55 PM
> To: 'gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org'
> Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Windows NetMeeting Vs Gnomemeeting
> 
> 
> Le ven 20/12/2002 à 20:52, Kumar, Pradeep (MED, TCS) a écrit :
> > Hi,
> > I want to use Gnomemeeting on my Red Hat 8.0 linux machine. I am
> > integrating my linux desktop
> > with the Windows Domain. So I have some doubts regarding this.
> > 
> > What are the features available with Gnomemeeting?
> > Can we do everything with Gnomemeeting, whatever we can do with MS
> > NetMeeting?
> > Is Whiteboard Sharing, File Trasfer, Application sharing possible with
> > Gnomemeeting?
> > Are there any problems with gnomemeeting in communicating with
> > NetMeeting Users?
> > What are the features that gnomemeeting lacks in comparison with
> > NetMeeting?
> > 
> > 
> > I would appreciate any sort of help on this. 
> > 
> > Thanks in advance for your help,
> > 
> > Regards,
> > S.Pradeep Kumar
> 
> Did you by chance have a look at the faq?
> 
> Snark on #gnomemeeting
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Hi List !

I'm not a network/firewall expert, so i forward here...

Matti

----------  Weitergeleitete Nachricht  ----------

Subject: GM 0.94 firewall security issues..
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:07:47 -0500
From: AG <agreen@bkaeg.org>
To: matthias@marksweb.de

Matti:

I noticed that GM FAQ doesn't explicityl list an IP address origin for
all GM/ILS server connections..

IOW, it appears that you just 'blindly' open the required ports ->
TCP ports 1720 and 30000-30010
UDP pors 5000:5003

I would like to setup some ipchains rules and I need to be sure that I
can verify traffic coming into those ports..

I'm old school and paranoid ;)

AG
"What you read today, will free you tomorrow" - ME
http://bkaeg.org

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Hi matti,

there are some points I don't understand.
> 
> I noticed that GM FAQ doesn't explicityl list an IP address origin for
> all GM/ILS server connections..

How should it be possible to define all possible IP addresses? Which one
does he mean?

> 
> IOW, it appears that you just 'blindly' open the required ports ->
> TCP ports 1720 and 30000-30010
> UDP pors 5000:5003
> 
> I would like to setup some ipchains rules and I need to be sure that I
> can verify traffic coming into those ports..

That really depends on his needings. With ipchains you can check the
packets for many aspects (source ip, destination ip and so on..), thus
we have to know what he wants to allow/reject.
He can verify packets, but how this works depends on his configuration.
We need more information!

> 
> I'm old school and paranoid ;)
> 
> AG
> "What you read today, will free you tomorrow" - ME
> http://bkaeg.org
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Hello, ...

I have a few questions about the docklet thingy.

I asked about it on the irc channel and matti sugested i ask about it
here.

Anyway, i am running gnomemeeting 0.94.1 on a debian/sid box, using
gnome 2. I was lead to believe that the docklet thingy would somehow
'dock' gnomemeeting in one of my panels or something such, especially
usefull if you run GM hidden. But when i toggle the docklet item in the
view entry, nothing special seem to happen. I don't see any changes on
both of my gnome 2 panels, so i guess the docklet doesn't work on
gnome2, right ?

Friendly,

Sven Luther

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Le sam 21/12/2002 à 23:17, Sven Luther a écrit :
> Anyway, i am running gnomemeeting 0.94.1 on a debian/sid box, using
> gnome 2. I was lead to believe that the docklet thingy would somehow
> 'dock' gnomemeeting in one of my panels or something such, especially
> usefull if you run GM hidden. But when i toggle the docklet item in the
> view entry, nothing special seem to happen. I don't see any changes on
> both of my gnome 2 panels, so i guess the docklet doesn't work on
> gnome2, right ?

Wrong ;)
Check :
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101791
You need to install the system_tray_applet in your panel, and that applet will dock 
the new docklet (called now "Status Icon" in the "Notification Area").

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Subject: [GnomeMeeting-list] No local video on second launch of Gnomemeeting
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Hi,

I've looked through the archives and can't see anyone else having this=20
problem.  I hope you can help.

I have installed Gnomemeeting 0.94.1 on a freshly installed Mandrake 9 li=
nux=20
machine. =20
I have a Trust SpaceC@m 300XS that is correctly recognised on the USB bus=
 and=20
the hotplug scripts appear to be doing their job ok. =20

Gnomemeeting displays local video on the first launch of the application,=
 but=20
when you have closed it and you re-launch it, I get no local video.  =20
Additionally, I can't actually close the application - it de-registers fr=
om=20
the ILS, but doesn't close properly.

Any help on this would be much appreciated.  I just bought my Dad a webca=
m for=20
Christmas and hoped we would be able to video-conference!

Thanks in advance,

Andrew

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Le dim 22/12/2002 à 19:31, Andrew Mulheirn a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I've looked through the archives and can't see anyone else having this 
> problem.  I hope you can help.
> 
> I have installed Gnomemeeting 0.94.1 on a freshly installed Mandrake 9 linux 
> machine.  
> I have a Trust SpaceC@m 300XS that is correctly recognised on the USB bus and 
> the hotplug scripts appear to be doing their job ok.  
> 
> Gnomemeeting displays local video on the first launch of the application, but 
> when you have closed it and you re-launch it, I get no local video.   

What do you get? An error?
Try to kill ESD. Mandrake has a bug that makes ESD spawn and ESD is
trying to open the video device.

You can also do an export ESD_NO_SPAWN=1 before launching GM.

> Additionally, I can't actually close the application - it de-registers from 
> the ILS, but doesn't close properly.
> 

It seems to indicate a driver bug.

> Any help on this would be much appreciated.  I just bought my Dad a webcam for 
> Christmas and hoped we would be able to video-conference!
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Andrew
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Some additional information:

I have set "noapic" on the append line of lilo.conf.

The camera works for a while on first launch but eventually, video freeze=
s. =20
Messages like "usb_control bulk_msg timeout" appear in the messages file.

Unloading and reloading the usb-uhci module seems to bring the video back=
=2E

I've heard there is an alternative uhci module - should I be using that?

Thanks and regards,

Andrew


On Sunday 22 Dec 2002 6:31 pm, Andrew Mulheirn wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've looked through the archives and can't see anyone else having this
> problem.  I hope you can help.
>
> I have installed Gnomemeeting 0.94.1 on a freshly installed Mandrake 9
> linux machine.
> I have a Trust SpaceC@m 300XS that is correctly recognised on the USB b=
us
> and the hotplug scripts appear to be doing their job ok.
>
> Gnomemeeting displays local video on the first launch of the applicatio=
n,
> but when you have closed it and you re-launch it, I get no local video.
> Additionally, I can't actually close the application - it de-registers =
from
> the ILS, but doesn't close properly.
>
> Any help on this would be much appreciated.  I just bought my Dad a web=
cam
> for Christmas and hoped we would be able to video-conference!
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Andrew


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Le dim 22/12/2002 à 20:38, Andrew Mulheirn a écrit :
> Some additional information:
> 

You didn't answer my previous mail where I was asking what you mean by
"doesn't work". Is there an error message?
Also try the tricks I gave you.

> I have set "noapic" on the append line of lilo.conf.
> 
> The camera works for a while on first launch but eventually, video freezes.  
> Messages like "usb_control bulk_msg timeout" appear in the messages file.
> 

I think that you have an USB or webcam driver bug.
I would suggest you to contact the driver author, we are not USB
experts. Perhaps he could try GnomeMeeting with his driver and see what
happens. If you have any feedback, please contribute it back here.

> Unloading and reloading the usb-uhci module seems to bring the video back.
> 
> I've heard there is an alternative uhci module - should I be using that?

You can try, I think there is uhci and ohci, and that there are 2
versions of uhci, but I can be wrong.


> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> On Sunday 22 Dec 2002 6:31 pm, Andrew Mulheirn wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've looked through the archives and can't see anyone else having this
> > problem.  I hope you can help.
> >
> > I have installed Gnomemeeting 0.94.1 on a freshly installed Mandrake 9
> > linux machine.
> > I have a Trust SpaceC@m 300XS that is correctly recognised on the USB bus
> > and the hotplug scripts appear to be doing their job ok.
> >
> > Gnomemeeting displays local video on the first launch of the application,
> > but when you have closed it and you re-launch it, I get no local video.
> > Additionally, I can't actually close the application - it de-registers from
> > the ILS, but doesn't close properly.
> >
> > Any help on this would be much appreciated.  I just bought my Dad a webcam
> > for Christmas and hoped we would be able to video-conference!
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Andrew
> 
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Re-hello,

I try to compile GM CVS 2002-12-22 by myself on Debian unstable.

First, I found a list of dependances's packages by searching from the
gnomemeeting-cvs for Debian (cvs-20021205.deb) and I installed all of
them.

Then, I grabbed pwlib, openh323 from their cvs server, and
gnomemeeting-cvs-2002-12-22 from the download page. I put them under
the directory /opt.

For openh323, I applied the h261codec.cxx.patch.

Having all the sources, I started to compile pwlib, then openh323.
And I copied the *.so.* into /usr/lib. So far so good.

But for gnomemeeting, I cannot make the Makefile with autogen.sh.
If it's neccessary, here are all the messages generated by autogen.sh:

=========================

export PWLIBDIR=/opt/pwlib
export OPENH323DIR=/opt/openh323

dauphin:# ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --with-ptlib-includes=/opt/pwlib/include/ptlib --with-openh323-includes=/opt/openh323/include 

/usr/bin/gnome-autogen.sh
processing .
Creating ./aclocal.m4 ...
Running glib-gettextize...  Ignore non-fatal messages.
Copying file po/Makefile.in
Copying file po/Makefile.in.in

Please add the files
  codeset.m4 gettext.m4 glibc21.m4 iconv.m4 isc-posix.m4 lcmessage.m4
    progtest.m4
from the /usr/share/aclocal directory to your autoconf macro directory
or directly to your aclocal.m4 file.
You will also need config.guess and config.sub, which you can get from
ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/config/.

Making ./aclocal.m4 writable ...
Running intltoolize...
patching file po/Makefile.in.in
Hunk #1 succeeded at 21 (offset 7 lines).
Hunk #2 succeeded at 41 (offset 2 lines).
Hunk #3 succeeded at 94 with fuzz 2 (offset 2 lines).
Hunk #4 succeeded at 203 (offset -15 lines).
Hunk #5 succeeded at 214 (offset -15 lines).
Running libtoolize...
You should add the contents of `/usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4' to `aclocal.m4'.
Running aclocal -I /usr/share/aclocal/gnome2-macros  ...
aclocal: configure.in: 53: macro `AM_GCONF_SOURCE_2' not found in library
Running autoheader...
autoheader: error: AC_CONFIG_HEADERS not found in configure.in
Running automake --gnu  ...
configure.in: 9: required file `./config.h.in' not found
Running autoconf ...
Running ./configure --enable-maintainer-mode --enable-compile-warnings --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --with-ptlib-includes=/opt/pwlib/include/ptlib --with-openh323-includes=/opt/openh323/include ...
checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
./configure: line 1411: syntax error near unexpected token `gnomemeeting,'
./configure: line 1411: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'

dauphin:# 

=========================

No Makefile is generated.

Could somebody help me to correct these errors before continueing, please ?

Thanks in advance,

Truong

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Le dim 22/12/2002 à 23:37, Truong a écrit :

> checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
> ./configure: line 1411: syntax error near unexpected token `gnomemeeting,'
> ./configure: line 1411: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'
> 

Hard to tell without knowing what is line 1411 on your system.
I would suggest you to upgrade autoconf/automake.
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Damien Sandras wrote:

>Le dim 22/12/2002 à 23:37, Truong a écrit :
>
>  
>
>>checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
>>./configure: line 1411: syntax error near unexpected token `gnomemeeting,'
>>./configure: line 1411: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Hard to tell without knowing what is line 1411 on your system.
>I would suggest you to upgrade autoconf/automake.
>  
>
I run RH 8 , installed a lot a -devel packages as the program was 
conplaining, installed
from sources automake (GNU automake) 1.7.2,  autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.57,
ltmain.sh (GNU libtool) 1.4.3 (1.922.2.110 2002/10/23 01:39:54) and a 
few other
things and also get the :

./configure: line 1411: syntax error near unexpected token `gnomemeeting,'
./configure: line 1411: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'

Line 1411 at configure is only `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'

I also have a few other problems like :

Makefile.am:22: INSTALL_SCHEMAS does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at 
/usr/local/bin/automake lin
e 4352.
lib/Makefile.am:5: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
lib/Makefile.am:5:
lib/Makefile.am:5: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add 
`AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
lib/Makefile.am:5: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and `autoconf' again.
lib/Makefile.am: installing `./depcomp'
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not 
appear in AM
_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in 
AM_CONDITI
ONAL
lib/widgets/Makefile.am:1: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
lib/widgets/Makefile.am:1:
lib/widgets/Makefile.am:1: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add 
`AC_PROG_
LIBTOOL'
lib/widgets/Makefile.am:1: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and 
`autoconf' ag
ain.
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not 
appear in AM
_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in 
AM_CONDITI
ONAL
lib/xdap/Makefile.am:1: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
lib/xdap/Makefile.am:1:
lib/xdap/Makefile.am:1: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add 
`AC_PROG_LIB
TOOL'
lib/xdap/Makefile.am:1: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and 
`autoconf' again
.
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not 
appear in AM
_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in 
AM_CONDITI
ONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCXX does not 
appear in A
M_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in 
AM_CONDITI
ONAL
Makefile.am:22: INSTALL_SCHEMAS does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at 
/usr/local/bin/automake lin
e 4352.
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not 
appear in AM
_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in 
AM_CONDITI
ONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not 
appear in AM
_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in 
AM_CONDITI
ONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not 
appear in AM
_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in 
AM_CONDITI
ONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCXX does not 
appear in A
M_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in 
AM_CONDITI
ONAL
Running autoconf ...
configure.in:5: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE
      If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.
      See the Autoconf documentation.
configure.in:8: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_MAINTAINER_MODE
configure.in:9: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_CONFIG_HEADER
configure.in:11: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_INTLTOOL
configure.in:13: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PROG_LIBTOOL
configure.in:53: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_GCONF_SOURCE_2
configure.in:242: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PATH_SDL
configure.in:395: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_GLIB_GNU_GETTEXT
configure.in:427: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_CONDITIONAL

All this means that I have to run libtool, atomake and autoconf with 
special parameters
for configure from gnomemeeting to compile properly?
I know I could just ask for the corresponding gnomemeeting.rpm and 
install it but I'd like to
 get a litlle deeper into understanding how all this works in Linux ... 
if you can spare a few
minutes Damien ( I know the day only has 24hours ... ).

A merry Christmas and a hapy New Year to all !

João Pedro


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Le lun 23/12/2002 à 12:49, João Pedro a écrit :
> I run RH 8 , installed a lot a -devel packages as the program was 
> conplaining, installed
> from sources automake (GNU automake) 1.7.2,  autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.57,
> ltmain.sh (GNU libtool) 1.4.3 (1.922.2.110 2002/10/23 01:39:54) and a 
> few other
> things and also get the :
> 
> ./configure: line 1411: syntax error near unexpected token `gnomemeeting,'
> ./configure: line 1411: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'
> 
> Line 1411 at configure is only `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'
> 

My automake is 1.4. No idea about this, but all gnome programs are
compiled with automake 1.4, perhaps your automake is too new. If you
have time, you can contribute a patch, it is perhaps an API difference
between both versions.

> I also have a few other problems like :
> 
> configure.in:8: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_MAINTAINER_MODE
> configure.in:9: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_CONFIG_HEADER
> configure.in:11: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_INTLTOOL
> configure.in:13: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PROG_LIBTOOL
> configure.in:53: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_GCONF_SOURCE_2
> configure.in:242: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PATH_SDL
> configure.in:395: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_GLIB_GNU_GETTEXT
> configure.in:427: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_CONDITIONAL
> 


You need to install intltool, libtool, gettext, sdl, and gconf, + their
devel versions.

> All this means that I have to run libtool, atomake and autoconf with 
> special parameters
> for configure from gnomemeeting to compile properly?

No, you just need to install the devel packages so that the automake
macros are available in your sustem.

> I know I could just ask for the corresponding gnomemeeting.rpm and 
> install it but I'd like to
>  get a litlle deeper into understanding how all this works in Linux ... 
> if you can spare a few
> minutes Damien ( I know the day only has 24hours ... ).
> 
> A merry Christmas and a hapy New Year to all !
> 

Merry christmas and happy new year! :)
If you can compile GM from CVS, then you can consider yourself as an
expert ;))

> João Pedro
> 
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% *** Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> wrote: ***
% Le dim 22/12/2002 =E0 23:37, Truong a =E9crit :
%=20
% > checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
% > ./configure: line 1411: syntax error near unexpected token `gnomemeetin=
g,'
% > ./configure: line 1411: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)'
% >=20
%=20
% Hard to tell without knowing what is line 1411 on your system.

-------------------------
dauphin:# cd /opt/gm-20021222/
dauphin:# vim +1411 configure

AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(gnomemeeting, 0.95.0)

-------------------------

Line 1411 in the configure file contents the same string as in the error.


% I would suggest you to upgrade autoconf/automake.


-------------------------
dauphin:# apt-cache policy automake1.4
automake1.4:
  Installed: 1:1.4-p6-5
  Candidate: 1:1.4-p6-5
  Version Table:
 *** 1:1.4-p6-5 0
        500 http://ftp.belnet.be testing/main Packages
        500 http://ftp.belnet.be unstable/main Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
  =20

dauphin:# apt-cache policy autoconf  =20
autoconf:
  Installed: 2.57-1
  Candidate: 2.57-1
  Version Table:
 *** 2.57-1 0
        500 http://ftp.belnet.be testing/main Packages
        500 http://ftp.belnet.be unstable/main Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     2.53-2 0
        500 http://ftp.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be stable/main Packages

-------------------------
					   =20
automake (v1.4-p6) and autoconf (v2.57) are already upgraded.

Anyway..  "Joyeux No=EBl et Bonne Ann=E9e"

Just take a good time with the family.


--=20
  Truong <tphuong@wol.be>


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>
> there are some points I don't understand.
>>
>> I noticed that GM FAQ doesn't explicityl list an IP address origin for
>> all GM/ILS server connections..
>
> How should it be possible to define all possible IP addresses? Which
> one does he mean?

AG> IIRC, The old Netmeeting pkg req'd all clients to log into a central
AG> ULS. Does GM/ILS also work in this manner? If so, I would rather set up
AG> my firewall rules to allow traffic from this IP address only.
AG> For instance, I would simply use the IP address for ils.seconix.com and
AG> only allow traffic originating from this domain.

>>
>> IOW, it appears that you just 'blindly' open the required ports -> TCP
>> ports 1720 and 30000-30010
>> UDP pors 5000:5003
>>
>
> That really depends on his needings. With ipchains you can check the
> packets for many aspects (source ip, destination ip and so on..), thus
> we have to know what he wants to allow/reject.
> He can verify packets, but how this works depends on his configuration.
> We need more information!

AG> I'm using IP chains and I typically deny all traffic that I've not
AG> explicitly added to my rules. Hopefully, my statement above will help
AG> clarify my intentions. I do not simply wish to open my LAN to the world.




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Le lun 23/12/2002 à 23:26, AG a écrit :

> AG> IIRC, The old Netmeeting pkg req'd all clients to log into a central
> AG> ULS. Does GM/ILS also work in this manner? If so, I would rather set up

Yes, but it is not required, that is an option.

> AG> my firewall rules to allow traffic from this IP address only.
> AG> For instance, I would simply use the IP address for ils.seconix.com and
> AG> only allow traffic originating from this domain.
> 

Even if somebody is registered on ILS, he will always call you with his
own IP and not the ILS IP.



> AG> I'm using IP chains and I typically deny all traffic that I've not
> AG> explicitly added to my rules. Hopefully, my statement above will help
> AG> clarify my intentions. I do not simply wish to open my LAN to the world.
> 

Only allowing a given IP range to call you using ipchains, is (nearly)
like only allowing a given IP range to answer to your http requests.

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> > AG> I'm using IP chains and I typically deny all traffic that I've not
> > AG> explicitly added to my rules. Hopefully, my statement above will help
> > AG> clarify my intentions. I do not simply wish to open my LAN to the world.
> > 
> 
> Only allowing a given IP range to call you using ipchains, is (nearly)
> like only allowing a given IP range to answer to your http requests.
> 

Indeed, it is just a "danger" during a GnomeMeeting Session on your
workstation. If GnomeMeeting isn't running on the client, there is no
service which replies on requests (on port 1720). By the way, my last
sentence doesn't mean that it is immediately insecure if GnomeMeeting
runs, it would just be possible if there were some bugs.

You do not open the LAN to the world. What you have to do is
port-forwarding to only one client, thus the behaviour or security of
the rest is not influenced (you defined one destination).

There is one possibiliy to restrict the incoming requests: define and
allow all IP addresses which are allowed to phone you. But I would not
suggest you to use this one.

Cheers,
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Hello,

First, I'm not an expert of Debian system and Gnomemeeting, but I'am a
very new fan of VoIP and VideoConference under GNU Linux. So if there is
any errors in the script attached, please give me corrections or
suggestions.

I would like to learn how to compile the gnomemeeting snapshots by
myself and I got many errors. Most of them are dued to missing
dependancies or tools, not because of the source itsself.

You will find small note, attached with this mail, of all the dependancy
packages under Debian before getting to build the GM-CVS. Hopefully, you
will be able to compile it successfully. But, please consider the GM
snapshot is unstable and do not complaint to the authors if GM-CVS has
crashed your system.

Many thanks (in alphabetical order) to Damien, Fabrice, Matthias, Matti,
Snark, and others on the channel irc.gnome.org #gnomemeeting =;)

Truong

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Thanks a lot for this contribution :)

I would also add that the CVS version can be compiled without gnome
support (you loose only some features), and that in this case, you need
less libraries.


Le mer 25/12/2002 à 00:59, Truong a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> First, I'm not an expert of Debian system and Gnomemeeting, but I'am a
> very new fan of VoIP and VideoConference under GNU Linux. So if there is
> any errors in the script attached, please give me corrections or
> suggestions.
> 
> I would like to learn how to compile the gnomemeeting snapshots by
> myself and I got many errors. Most of them are dued to missing
> dependancies or tools, not because of the source itsself.
> 
> You will find small note, attached with this mail, of all the dependancy
> packages under Debian before getting to build the GM-CVS. Hopefully, you
> will be able to compile it successfully. But, please consider the GM
> snapshot is unstable and do not complaint to the authors if GM-CVS has
> crashed your system.
> 
> Many thanks (in alphabetical order) to Damien, Fabrice, Matthias, Matti,
> Snark, and others on the channel irc.gnome.org #gnomemeeting =;)
> 
> Truong
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ummm... what means "without gnome support"? does it mean you can run it also
on KDE or what? if so, how can you compile it without gnome?

Merry X-Mas to all!

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> Thanks a lot for this contribution :)
>
> I would also add that the CVS version can be compiled without gnome
> support (you loose only some features), and that in this case, you need
> less libraries.
>
>
> Le mer 25/12/2002 à 00:59, Truong a écrit :
> > Hello,
> >
> > First, I'm not an expert of Debian system and Gnomemeeting, but I'am a
> > very new fan of VoIP and VideoConference under GNU Linux. So if there is
> > any errors in the script attached, please give me corrections or
> > suggestions.
> >
> > I would like to learn how to compile the gnomemeeting snapshots by
> > myself and I got many errors. Most of them are dued to missing
> > dependancies or tools, not because of the source itsself.
> >
> > You will find small note, attached with this mail, of all the dependancy
> > packages under Debian before getting to build the GM-CVS. Hopefully, you
> > will be able to compile it successfully. But, please consider the GM
> > snapshot is unstable and do not complaint to the authors if GM-CVS has
> > crashed your system.
> >
> > Many thanks (in alphabetical order) to Damien, Fabrice, Matthias, Matti,
> > Snark, and others on the channel irc.gnome.org #gnomemeeting =;)
> >
> > Truong
> --
> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
>
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Le mer 25/12/2002 à 12:48, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> ummm... what means "without gnome support"? does it mean you can run it also
> on KDE or what? if so, how can you compile it without gnome?
> 
> Merry X-Mas to all!
> 

GnomeMeeting already runs on KDE and has several KDE users despite its
name. 
All it does is reimplementing things in gnome libraries in pure GTK
(menus for example). Compiling without gnome support means that you
don't need all gnome libraries to compile GnomeMeeting, only GTK+,
GConf, SDL (optional), libXML and OpenH323 are needed. Of course, you
loose GNOME specific features :
- Configuration assistant
- GNOME session support
- BONOBO support (you can currently do a gnomemeeting -c callto://url,
it will start and call the right url or pass the url to an already
running GnomeMeeting)
- About box

But you need a few libraries less. We will always provide GNOME
dependant packages, but anti-GNOME KDE users can compile GM without them
and have less features.

Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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so do you have to pass a parameter or edit something to compile without
gnome support?

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> Le mer 25/12/2002 à 12:48, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> > ummm... what means "without gnome support"? does it mean you can run it
also
> > on KDE or what? if so, how can you compile it without gnome?
> >
> > Merry X-Mas to all!
> >
>
> GnomeMeeting already runs on KDE and has several KDE users despite its
> name.
> All it does is reimplementing things in gnome libraries in pure GTK
> (menus for example). Compiling without gnome support means that you
> don't need all gnome libraries to compile GnomeMeeting, only GTK+,
> GConf, SDL (optional), libXML and OpenH323 are needed. Of course, you
> loose GNOME specific features :
> - Configuration assistant
> - GNOME session support
> - BONOBO support (you can currently do a gnomemeeting -c callto://url,
> it will start and call the right url or pass the url to an already
> running GnomeMeeting)
> - About box
>
> But you need a few libraries less. We will always provide GNOME
> dependant packages, but anti-GNOME KDE users can compile GM without them
> and have less features.
>
> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
>
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list


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> so do you have to pass a parameter or edit something to compile without
> gnome support?

./configure --without-gnome <your other flags>

>
> Best regards,
> Adrian Golumbovici
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
> To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] dependancies needed
> tocompileGnomemeeting-cvs under Debian
>
>
>> Le mer 25/12/2002 à 12:48, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
>> > ummm... what means "without gnome support"? does it mean you can run
>> it
> also
>> > on KDE or what? if so, how can you compile it without gnome?
>> >
>> > Merry X-Mas to all!
>> >
>>
>> GnomeMeeting already runs on KDE and has several KDE users despite its
>> name.
>> All it does is reimplementing things in gnome libraries in pure GTK
>> (menus for example). Compiling without gnome support means that you
>> don't need all gnome libraries to compile GnomeMeeting, only GTK+,
>> GConf, SDL (optional), libXML and OpenH323 are needed. Of course, you
>> loose GNOME specific features :
>> - Configuration assistant
>> - GNOME session support
>> - BONOBO support (you can currently do a gnomemeeting -c callto://url,
>> it will start and call the right url or pass the url to an already
>> running GnomeMeeting)
>> - About box
>>
>> But you need a few libraries less. We will always provide GNOME
>> dependant packages, but anti-GNOME KDE users can compile GM without
>> them and have less features.
>>
>> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
>> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
>
> _______________________________________________
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hi,

I use gnomeeting from debian testing/sid

carles@pinux:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i gnomemeeting
ii  gnomemeeting   0.94.1-1       H323 Compatible Netmeeting clone for the
Gno
carles@pinux:~$

And, after a few minutes of use video for receiving:

(gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289
(g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289
(g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1307
(g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1325
(g_object_get_qdata): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(gnomemeeting:27849): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkcolor.c: line 61
(gdk_colormap_get_visual): assertion `GDK_IS_COLORMAP (colormap)' failed
carles@pinux:~$


I don't know if this is a problem with gnomemeeting or some libraries. But
it's possible that somebody knows anything :-)

I have the programs and libraries updated.

I test it with a netmeeting or with a windows ohphone.

Thank you very much.

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The place to look for such things is bugzilla.
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98179 describes your bug,
shows a backtrace and indicates that the bug was fixed in CVS on 12
november, ie 2 months ago.

I think (but it was never confirmed) that hiding the statistics part is
enough to prevent the bug to appear.

Le mer 25/12/2002 à 19:11, Carles Pina i Estany a écrit :
> hi,
> 
> I use gnomeeting from debian testing/sid
> 
> carles@pinux:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i gnomemeeting
> ii  gnomemeeting   0.94.1-1       H323 Compatible Netmeeting clone for the
> Gno
> carles@pinux:~$
> 
> And, after a few minutes of use video for receiving:
> 
> (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289
> (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> 
> (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289
> (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> 
> (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1307
> (g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> 
> (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1325
> (g_object_get_qdata): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> 
> (gnomemeeting:27849): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkcolor.c: line 61
> (gdk_colormap_get_visual): assertion `GDK_IS_COLORMAP (colormap)' failed
> carles@pinux:~$
> 
> 
> I don't know if this is a problem with gnomemeeting or some libraries. But
> it's possible that somebody knows anything :-)
> 
> I have the programs and libraries updated.
> 
> I test it with a netmeeting or with a windows ohphone.
> 
> Thank you very much.
-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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Hi,

Ok, thanks very much

The next bug I will use bugzilla :-)

two weeks ago I compiled the CVS versions but then it was other error
(libraries, "mea culpa")


On 25 Dec 2002, Damien Sandras wrote:

> The place to look for such things is bugzilla.
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D98179 describes your bug,
> shows a backtrace and indicates that the bug was fixed in CVS on 12
> november, ie 2 months ago.
>
> I think (but it was never confirmed) that hiding the statistics part is
> enough to prevent the bug to appear.
>
> Le mer 25/12/2002 =E0 19:11, Carles Pina i Estany a =E9crit :
> > hi,
> >
> > I use gnomeeting from debian testing/sid
> >
> > carles@pinux:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i gnomemeeting
> > ii  gnomemeeting   0.94.1-1       H323 Compatible Netmeeting clone for =
the
> > Gno
> > carles@pinux:~$
> >
> > And, after a few minutes of use video for receiving:
> >
> > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 12=
89
> > (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> >
> > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 12=
89
> > (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> >
> > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 13=
07
> > (g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> >
> > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 13=
25
> > (g_object_get_qdata): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> >
> > (gnomemeeting:27849): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkcolor.c: line 61
> > (gdk_colormap_get_visual): assertion `GDK_IS_COLORMAP (colormap)' faile=
d
> > carles@pinux:~$
> >
> >
> > I don't know if this is a problem with gnomemeeting or some libraries. =
But
> > it's possible that somebody knows anything :-)
> >
> > I have the programs and libraries updated.
> >
> > I test it with a netmeeting or with a windows ohphone.
> >
> > Thank you very much.
> --
> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
>

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we provide debian snapshots of CVS on
ftp://www.gnomemeeting.org/gnomemeeting-cvs

They should be stable...

Le mer 25/12/2002 à 20:59, Carles Pina i Estany a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> Ok, thanks very much
> 
> The next bug I will use bugzilla :-)
> 
> two weeks ago I compiled the CVS versions but then it was other error
> (libraries, "mea culpa")
> 
> 
> On 25 Dec 2002, Damien Sandras wrote:
> 
> > The place to look for such things is bugzilla.
> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98179 describes your bug,
> > shows a backtrace and indicates that the bug was fixed in CVS on 12
> > november, ie 2 months ago.
> >
> > I think (but it was never confirmed) that hiding the statistics part is
> > enough to prevent the bug to appear.
> >
> > Le mer 25/12/2002 à 19:11, Carles Pina i Estany a écrit :
> > > hi,
> > >
> > > I use gnomeeting from debian testing/sid
> > >
> > > carles@pinux:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i gnomemeeting
> > > ii  gnomemeeting   0.94.1-1       H323 Compatible Netmeeting clone for the
> > > Gno
> > > carles@pinux:~$
> > >
> > > And, after a few minutes of use video for receiving:
> > >
> > > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289
> > > (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> > >
> > > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289
> > > (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> > >
> > > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1307
> > > (g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> > >
> > > (gnomemeeting:27849): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1325
> > > (g_object_get_qdata): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> > >
> > > (gnomemeeting:27849): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkcolor.c: line 61
> > > (gdk_colormap_get_visual): assertion `GDK_IS_COLORMAP (colormap)' failed
> > > carles@pinux:~$
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't know if this is a problem with gnomemeeting or some libraries. But
> > > it's possible that somebody knows anything :-)
> > >
> > > I have the programs and libraries updated.
> > >
> > > I test it with a netmeeting or with a windows ohphone.
> > >
> > > Thank you very much.
> > --
> > Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
> >
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> >
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Does anyone know of any good web cameras on the market right now that
are support by the stock Redhat 8 distro?

Also, do I need to setup a symlink to that USB camera from /dev/video0?

Thanks in advance!

Ryan


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I always suggest to buy camera based on the philips chipset.
Logitech Quickcam Pro 3000 and 4000 for example are excellent choices.

Le jeu 26/12/2002 à 21:57, Ryan Nix a écrit :
> Does anyone know of any good web cameras on the market right now that
> are support by the stock Redhat 8 distro?
> 
> Also, do I need to setup a symlink to that USB camera from /dev/video0?
> 

No, it should automatically work.

> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Ryan
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Damien Sandras wrote:
> I always suggest to buy camera based on the philips chipset.
> Logitech Quickcam Pro 3000 and 4000 for example are excellent choices.
> 

and so i bought one hehe,
but you should install the PWCX modules in additon. :)
at least if you don t like the video to be stamp sized.

btw i don t know for 4000, but 3000 works just fine, ryan :)

cheers,
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Hello,
I have a problem with the gnomemeeting,  to be honist I am a newbie with 
gnome products and I hope that I find someone how helps me.

The problem is the following:
I like to get gnomemeeting up and running to build up a connection from 
Germany to the USA.

For the moment I try to get this tool working between to Linux machines.
One is installed with SuSE7.3 and the other one with SuSE 8.0.
The used soundsystem is ALSA and I can hear the sound. E.G. kmidi is running.

The used webcam is a Philips 730k model.

When I start gnomemeeting the video connetction is working but I get no audio 
transmitted.
Both PCs are in the same subnet and no firewalls are active.
In the controlcenter the full duplex option is turned on.

And I still get the error message/warning that the system is not able to open 
the audio channel.

Thanks for the time reading this mail and I hope to find some help any idear 
or private discussion is welcomed.


Joerg Demtroeder


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Le ven 27/12/2002 à 10:53, Joerg Demtroeder a écrit :

> When I start gnomemeeting the video connetction is working but I get no audio 
> transmitted.

> And I still get the error message/warning that the system is not able to open 
> the audio channel.

Read the faq, and make sure you defined the good devices as in/out
devices...

Snark on #gnomemeeting


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Le ven 27/12/2002 =E0 13:01, PUYDT Julien a =E9crit :
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Make sure that the module for your internal microphone is correctly
loaded, and that you chose this device in the preferences.
The sound channel being unable to open means that another program is
probably blocking the soundcard. Play with lsof or fuser to know which
one.

Le ven 27/12/2002 à 10:53, Joerg Demtroeder a écrit :
> Hello,
> I have a problem with the gnomemeeting,  to be honist I am a newbie with 
> gnome products and I hope that I find someone how helps me.
> 
> The problem is the following:
> I like to get gnomemeeting up and running to build up a connection from 
> Germany to the USA.
> 
> For the moment I try to get this tool working between to Linux machines.
> One is installed with SuSE7.3 and the other one with SuSE 8.0.
> The used soundsystem is ALSA and I can hear the sound. E.G. kmidi is running.
> 
> The used webcam is a Philips 730k model.
> 
> When I start gnomemeeting the video connetction is working but I get no audio 
> transmitted.
> Both PCs are in the same subnet and no firewalls are active.
> In the controlcenter the full duplex option is turned on.
> 
> And I still get the error message/warning that the system is not able to open 
> the audio channel.
> 
> Thanks for the time reading this mail and I hope to find some help any idear 
> or private discussion is welcomed.
> 
> 
> Joerg Demtroeder
> 
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We have investigated the problem and it appears that when Netmeeting for
XP connects to GnomeMeeting, and only when Netmeeting is sending video,
it disconnects after a few seconds. The problem is due to a bug in
Netmeeting XP, but there is a workaround (thanks Derek for finding
this):
- Remove SendMiscCommand in openh323/src/h261codec.cxx
- Recompile
or wait for the next release of OpenH323/GnomeMeeting

That fixes the problem.

Le ven 20/12/2002 à 00:38, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> No it didn't fail with Joao as he didn't show up yet. And I was trying to
> connect to random peeps from seconix server to see if I can do some testing.
> :) I was just wondering why does it appear to try connecting to localhost.
> 
> Thx for your patience with me again. :)
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
> To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem
> 
> 
> > Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 21:22, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> > > OK. I am trying to cotact Joao for the testing. In the meantime I tried
> to
> > > connect to some random peeps which have netmeeting and got this in the
> debug
> > > output:
> > >
> >
> > Do you mean that it failed with Joao ?
> > The log indicates "Connection reset by peer".
> > I wonder if your connection setup is correct, same for firewall rules.
> > I have no more clue about your problem and I think that you will have to
> > investigate for yourself. There is nothing more I can do, unfortunately,
> > for your problem remotely.
> > That log doesn't help, it says "Ended by transport fail", which is the
> > same kind of error as when you try to connect a down host.
> >
> >
> >
> > > -------------------
> > > 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Found capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> > >
> > > 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 RFC2833 Handler created
> > >
> > > 8:07.897 GMURLHandler:082d4238 H323 Created new connection: ip$local
> > >
> > > host/7266
> > >
> > > 8:07.901 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Started call thread
> > >
> > > 8:08.149 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323TCP Started connection: host=24.50.
> > >
> > > 147.246:1503, if=80.134.254.176:30005, handle=31
> > >
> > > 8:08.150 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending Setup PDU
> > >
> > > 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Check for Fast start by local en
> > >
> > > dpoint
> > >
> > > 8:08.151 H225 Caller:82695d8 H245 Default OnSelectLogicalChannels,
> > >
> > > FastStartDisabled
> > >
> > > 8:08.152 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: setup
> > >
> > > 8:08.153 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Reading PDUs: callRef=7266
> > >
> > > 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Read error (104): Connection res
> > >
> > > et by peer
> > >
> > > 8:08.409 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> > >
> > > /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> > >
> > > 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Call end reason for ip$localhost
> > >
> > > /7266 set to EndedByTransportFail
> > >
> > > 8:08.410 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending release complete PDU: ca
> > >
> > > llRef=7266
> > >
> > > 8:08.412 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Sending PDU: releaseComplete
> > >
> > > 8:08.413 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Write PDU failed (32): Broken pi
> > >
> > > pe
> > >
> > > 8:08.414 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 Clearing connection ip$localhost
> > >
> > > /7266 reason=EndedByTransportFail
> > >
> > > 8:08.414 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> > >
> > > 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 clo
> > >
> > > sing: connectionState=AwaitingSignalConnect
> > >
> > > 8:08.415 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::Close
> > >
> > > 8:08.416 H323 Cleaner H323 H323Transport::CleanUpOnTerminat
> > >
> > > ion for H225 Caller:82695d8
> > >
> > > 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H323 H323Transport::Close
> > >
> > > 8:08.416 H225 Caller:82695d8 H225 Signal channel closed.
> > >
> > > 8:08.433 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 ter
> > >
> > > minated.
> > >
> > > 8:09.544 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 1x1
> > >
> > > 8:09.894 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> > >
> > > its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> > >
> > > 8:10.097 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim
> > >
> > > its. 160x120 -- 352x288
> > >
> > > 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetColourFormatConverter succeed
> > >
> > > ed for converted YUV420P camera using YUV420P
> > >
> > > 8:10.238 H323 Cleaner PVideoInputDevice: GetFrameSizeLim its. 160x120 --
> > > 352x288
> > >
> > > 8:10.239 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> > >
> > > 8:10.385 H323 Cleaner PVidDev SetFrameSize to 176x144
> > >
> > > 8:10.594 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: MS-GSM{sw} <1>
> > >
> > > 8:10.600 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: GSM-06.10{sw} <2>
> > >
> > > 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-15 k{sw} <3>
> > >
> > > 8:10.603 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: SpeexNarrow-8k {sw} <4>
> > >
> > > 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: LPC-10{sw} <5>
> > >
> > > 8:10.604 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.726-32k{sw} <6>
> > >
> > > 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-uLaw-64k {sw} <7>
> > >
> > > 8:10.605 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: G.711-ALaw-64k {sw} <8>
> > >
> > > 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-QCIF <9>
> > >
> > > 8:10.606 H323 Cleaner H323 Added capability: H.261-CIF <10>
> > >
> > > 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Connection ip$localhost/7266 del eted.
> > >
> > > 8:10.607 H323 Cleaner H323 Cleaning up connections
> > >
> > > -------------------
> > >
> > > what the heck is the localhost doing in there?!? except upgrading all
> > > libraries and recompiling the kernel to suit my camera requirements I
> didn't
> > > change anything. :/
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Damien Sandras" <dsandras@seconix.com>
> > > To: <gnomemeeting-list@gnome.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:25 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Re: Connection Problem
> > >
> > >
> > > > Le jeu 19/12/2002 à 12:11, adrian.golumbovici@t-online.de a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > > (2.4.19) and been tested to work with Gnomemeeting? I would hate to
> buy
> > > > > another one and wait another year untill drivers are available. :)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Philips-chipset based cameras (Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000, Philips
> > > > ToUCAM Pro) are the best: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, when did you say Gnomemeeting will be ported to win32? ;)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a few months if everything goes well, I'm not doing the port myself
> > > > as I don't like window$ ;)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >  _ Damien Sandras
> > > > (o- GnomeMeeting: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
> > > > //\ FOSDEM 2003:  http://www.fosdem.org
> > > > v_/_
> > > > H.323 phone:  callto://ils.seconix.com/dsandras@seconix.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
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> > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> >
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Thanks for your help,
for the moment the given answers creating more questions for me in the moment.
So please appoligize that I ask again.

The idear to check that the devices are not used is done lsof and fuser are 
reporting nothing on the devices for /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer.
Are these the right devices?
I also switched off the arts system from KDe and aktivated the system bell.

Is there a tool to check the audio Input?

Is it possible that the in the webcam included microphone producing the 
trouble?


Thanks again for your help


Am Freitag, 27. Dezember 2002 13:01 schrieben Sie:
> Le ven 27/12/2002 à 10:53, Joerg Demtroeder a écrit :
> > When I start gnomemeeting the video connetction is working but I get no
> > audio transmitted.
> >
> > And I still get the error message/warning that the system is not able to
> > open the audio channel.
>
> Read the faq, and make sure you defined the good devices as in/out
> devices...
>
> Snark on #gnomemeeting
>
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list

-- 
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Joerg Demtroeder
IT Projekt Manager
0172-2385928
joerg.demtroeder@keystone-st.de
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Le ven 27/12/2002 à 15:43, Joerg Demtroeder a écrit :
> Thanks for your help,
> for the moment the given answers creating more questions for me in the moment.
> So please appoligize that I ask again.
> 

This mailing list has been created to help users => no need to apology!
;)

> The idear to check that the devices are not used is done lsof and fuser are 
> reporting nothing on the devices for /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer.
> Are these the right devices?

/dev/dsp1 should be the device for the webcam internal microphone.
If it doesn't appear in the list, try to do a "modprobe audio" as root,
and restart GnomeMeeting.

> I also switched off the arts system from KDe and aktivated the system bell.
> 
> Is there a tool to check the audio Input?
> 

Not in GnomeMeeting 0.94.1 .
You can try cat /dev/dsp1 > /dev/dsp and talk in your cam microphone, if
you hear yourself, then the system is well-configured. If not, you have
a problem to identify and to solve.

> Is it possible that the in the webcam included microphone producing the 
> trouble?
> 

No, using it should solve all trouble.

> 
> Thanks again for your help
> 
> 
> Am Freitag, 27. Dezember 2002 13:01 schrieben Sie:
> > Le ven 27/12/2002 à 10:53, Joerg Demtroeder a écrit :
> > > When I start gnomemeeting the video connetction is working but I get no
> > > audio transmitted.
> > >
> > > And I still get the error message/warning that the system is not able to
> > > open the audio channel.
> >
> > Read the faq, and make sure you defined the good devices as in/out
> > devices...
> >
> > Snark on #gnomemeeting
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> > GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
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Hi,

	I am setting up video conferencing on my internal home network, and was 
wondering if anyone knew of MAC OS X based software that will 
interoperate with GnomeMeeting?  I have been looking for the last 
several days, and haven't run across anything yet.  Any help would be 
greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Andrig T. Miller


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In theory, you should be able to compile and make GnomeMeeting run on
Mac OS X. But you need things like XonX (I can be wrong, I never used
Mac OS X). If you are interested in trying, I will help you.

Le ven 27/12/2002 à 21:06, Andrig T. Miller a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> 	I am setting up video conferencing on my internal home network, and was 
> wondering if anyone knew of MAC OS X based software that will 
> interoperate with GnomeMeeting?  I have been looking for the last 
> several days, and haven't run across anything yet.  Any help would be 
> greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Andrig T. Miller
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
-- 
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Hi,
 you could try CPhone, which is on sourceforge.

It is based on the QT libraries (which work fine on mac) and 
pwlib/openh323.

Some effort may be required, I know nothing about macs, nor do I know what 
is only partially implemented on macs.

I suspect with the latest MAC OS X software it might just work.

Derek.

=======
On Fri, 27 Dec 2002, Andrig T. Miller wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> 	I am setting up video conferencing on my internal home network, and was 
> wondering if anyone knew of MAC OS X based software that will 
> interoperate with GnomeMeeting?  I have been looking for the last 
> several days, and haven't run across anything yet.  Any help would be 
> greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Andrig T. Miller
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
> 
> 

-- 
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There was one other reply referencing a project called CPhone.  That 
project is in its very early stages, so I think that I will explore 
trying to get GnomeMeeting running on MAC OS X.  I know of people who 
have built XFree86 and Gnome on MAC OS X, so this should be possible.  I 
will start checking into this, as I may need to do this for OpenOffice 
as well (currently it only has an X11 interface for the MAC).  If I run 
into problems, or need your help, I will let you know.

Thanks.

Andrig T. Miller

> In theory, you should be able to compile and make GnomeMeeting run on Mac OS X. But you need things like XonX (I can be wrong, I never used Mac OS X). If you are interested in trying, I will help you. Le ven 27/12/2002 à 21:06, Andrig T. Miller a écrit :
> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> 	I am setting up video conferencing on my internal home network, and was 
>>> wondering if anyone knew of MAC OS X based software that will 
>>> interoperate with GnomeMeeting?  I have been looking for the last 
>>> several days, and haven't run across anything yet.  Any help would be 
>>> greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Andrig T. Miller
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
>>> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
>>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> 
> -- Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> 



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Le sam 28/12/2002 à 19:27, Andrig T. Miller a écrit :
> There was one other reply referencing a project called CPhone.  That 
> project is in its very early stages, so I think that I will explore 
> trying to get GnomeMeeting running on MAC OS X.  I know of people who 
> have built XFree86 and Gnome on MAC OS X, so this should be possible.  I 
> will start checking into this, as I may need to do this for OpenOffice 
> as well (currently it only has an X11 interface for the MAC).  If I run 
> into problems, or need your help, I will let you know.
> 

I'm really ready to help if you have problems. Perhaps it is better to
contact me privately in that case and I will help you through the
process of building things if I'm able to do it.

Thanks!
-- 
Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>


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Hi, where is my helping hand ...?

I just installed gnomemeeting on a rh8.0-box (2.4.18-19.8.0) by a rpm-fil=
e
and started it in root-mode. everything works fine, but when i try to
start it as a "normal" user , the following errormessage occurs:

GnomeMeeting wurde 0 als GConf-Schl=FCssel
=BB/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test_age=AB
zur=FCckgeliefert, es wurde jedoch 12 erwartet.

=2E.. puh, okay, i will try ...

Gnomemeeting got a 0 as the value of the GConf-Key
=BB/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test_age=AB but expected a 12 ...



In the FAQ, the projectteam says:

7.11. I have GConf errors when I start GnomeMeeting, what can I do?
The first thing to do is to try to change the permissions with:=20
$ chmod -R 4755 /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/
$ killall -9 gconfd-2
 If it doesn't work, either GConf is not properly setup on your system,=20
either you don't have compiled GnomeMeeting with the right GConf flags.
Not all distributions install GConf settings in /etc/gconf, but=20
gconftool-2 --get-default-source should always give you the place where=20
default GConf settings are installed.=20

When starting, GnomeMeeting will test the value for a given key, and=20
compares it to what it expected to receive. If what he receives doesn't
match whith what he expected, then there is a problem. That key is=20
"/apps/gnomemeeting/general/gconf_test_age", and gconftool-2 --get=20
"/apps/gnomemeeting/general/gconf_test_age" should always return a
value different of 0.



But, unfortunatly, that does not help me at all ..


Any ideas ???

Thankx a lot, Andi

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Le dim 29/12/2002 à 01:33, Andreas Mueller a écrit :
> Hi, where is my helping hand ...?
> 
> I just installed gnomemeeting on a rh8.0-box (2.4.18-19.8.0) by a rpm-file
> and started it in root-mode. everything works fine, but when i try to
> start it as a "normal" user , the following errormessage occurs:
> 

That is typically a permissions problems.
Try to see if /etc/gconf and its subdirectories and files are readable
with ls -l by your user. If not, change the permissions.

> GnomeMeeting wurde 0 als GConf-Schlüssel
> »/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test_age«
> zurückgeliefert, es wurde jedoch 12 erwartet.
> 
> ... puh, okay, i will try ...
> 
> Gnomemeeting got a 0 as the value of the GConf-Key
> »/apps/gnomemeeting/gconf_test_age« but expected a 12 ...
> 
> 
> 
> In the FAQ, the projectteam says:
> 
> 7.11. I have GConf errors when I start GnomeMeeting, what can I do?
> The first thing to do is to try to change the permissions with: 
> $ chmod -R 4755 /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/
> $ killall -9 gconfd-2
>  If it doesn't work, either GConf is not properly setup on your system, 
> either you don't have compiled GnomeMeeting with the right GConf flags.
> Not all distributions install GConf settings in /etc/gconf, but 
> gconftool-2 --get-default-source should always give you the place where 
> default GConf settings are installed. 
> 
> When starting, GnomeMeeting will test the value for a given key, and 
> compares it to what it expected to receive. If what he receives doesn't
> match whith what he expected, then there is a problem. That key is 
> "/apps/gnomemeeting/general/gconf_test_age", and gconftool-2 --get 
> "/apps/gnomemeeting/general/gconf_test_age" should always return a
> value different of 0.
> 
> 
> 
> But, unfortunatly, that does not help me at all ..
> 
> 
> Any ideas ???
> 
> Thankx a lot, Andi
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
-- 
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Hi all this is my first post on this ML and for first i'd like to say
Marry Christmas and Happy new year to all.

and now the problem ...
I've just switched to debian but also with redhat 8.0 I've experienced
the same problem when I start to use GM 0.94.1, After I start a calling
a netmeeting client (but i really don't if the problem appears also in
the call to gm client) after some minute the viedo module crash and GM
windows is inaccessible ... but the audio continue to work so I can talk
also for lot of time. I don't now if the problem is due to my webcam but
as i just say i get this problem only when i switch to gm 0.94.1 

have anyone experienced the same problem  and have a solution ?

any Idea ?

bye
Alkex


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Dears, 

I have problem during the ./configure. 

[root@localhost gnomemeeting-0.95.0]# ./configure
checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for working aclocal... found
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... found
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking for intltool >= 0.20... 0.22 found
checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl
checking for gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables...
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed
checking for ld used by GCC... /usr/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes
checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r
checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking how to recognise dependant libraries... pass_all
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for egrep... grep -E
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for sys/types.h... yes
checking for sys/stat.h... yes
checking for stdlib.h... yes
checking for string.h... yes
checking for memory.h... yes
checking for strings.h... yes
checking for inttypes.h... yes
checking for stdint.h... yes
checking for unistd.h... yes
checking dlfcn.h usability... yes
checking dlfcn.h presence... yes
checking for dlfcn.h... yes
checking for g++... g++
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes
checking whether g++ accepts -g... yes
checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... g++ -E
checking the maximum length of command line arguments... 49153
checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from gcc object... ok
checking for objdir... .libs
checking for ranlib... ranlib
checking for strip... strip
checking if gcc static flag  works... yes
checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... yes
checking for gcc option to produce PIC... -fPIC
checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes
checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes
checking whether the gcc linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... 
yes
checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes
checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so
checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build static libraries... yes
configure: creating libtool
appending configuration tag "CXX" to libtool
checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... 
yes
 -fPIC
checking if g++ PIC flag -fPIC works... yes
checking if g++ supports -c -o file.o... yes
checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... 
yes
checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... yes
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes
checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so
appending configuration tag "GCJ" to libtool
checking if gcj supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... (cached) yes
checking for gcj option to produce PIC... -fPIC
checking if gcj PIC flag -fPIC works... no
checking if gcj supports -c -o file.o... no
checking whether the gcj linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... 
yes
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checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes
checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so
checking for gcc... (cached) gcc
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... (cached) yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... (cached) none needed
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... (cached) yes
checking whether g++ accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking for strerror in -lcposix... no
checking for ANSI C header files... (cached) yes
checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
checking for libgnomeui-2.0 >= 1.112.0 linc >= 0.5.0 libbonobo-2.0 >= 2.0.0 
esound >= 0.2.28... yes
checking GNOMEMEETING_CFLAGS...     -I/usr/include/libgnomeui-2.0 
 -I/usr/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 
 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/include/gconf/2 
 -I/usr/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 
 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/orbit-2.0 
 -I/usr/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 
 -I/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/include/linc-1.0 
 -I/usr/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/include/libxml2 
 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include 
 -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/Xft2 -I/usr/X11R6/include
checking GNOMEMEETING_LIBS...     -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgnomeui-2 -lSM -lICE 
 -lbonoboui-2 -lgnomecanvas-2 -lgnome-2 -lart_lgpl_2 -lpangoft2-1.0 
 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangoxft-1.0 
 -lpangox-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lgconf-2 -lgnomevfs-2 -lbonobo-2 
 -lbonobo-activation -lORBit-2 -lxml2 -lz -llinc -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl 
 -lgobject-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lpthread -lglib-2.0 -lesd -laudiofile -lm
Using config source xml::/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults for schema 
installation
Using $(sysconfdir)/gconf/schemas/ as install directory for schema files
checking for long... yes
checking size of long... 4
checking whether byte ordering is bigendian... no
checking whether OS type is supported... yes
checking for PTLib includes...
checking for /usr/lib/libpt.so... no
configure: error: You need PTLib to enjoy GnomeMeeting 


Could anyone help me, please? 


Best regards, 

Denis.

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Hi all this is my first post on this ML and for first i'd like to say
Marry Christmas and Happy new year to all.

and now the problem ...
I've just switched to debian but also with redhat 8.0 I've experienced
the same problem when I start to use GM 0.94.1, After I start a calling
a netmeeting client (but i really don't if the problem appears also in
the call to gm client) after some minute the viedo module crash and GM
windows is inaccessible ... but the audio continue to work so I can talk
also for lot of time. I don't now if the problem is due to my webcam but
as i just say i get this problem only when i switch to gm 0.94.1 

have anyone experienced the same problem  and have a solution ?

any Idea ?

bye
Alkex


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Hi, this was a known bug of GnomeMeeting 0.94.1. Actually, the problem
was that I was freeing some GtkWidget in the stats display part I
shouldn't have freed.

I would suggest you to use the CVS version if your problem appears too
often. It only appeared on some systems.

Debs of the CVS version are available here:
deb ftp://www.gnomemeeting.org/gnomemeeting-cvs/ ./
apt-get update; apt-get install gnomemeeting-cvs

We can provide RH8 Rpms on request.

Le dim 29/12/2002 à 10:35, Alkex a écrit :
> Hi all this is my first post on this ML and for first i'd like to say
> Marry Christmas and Happy new year to all.
> 
> and now the problem ...
> I've just switched to debian but also with redhat 8.0 I've experienced
> the same problem when I start to use GM 0.94.1, After I start a calling
> a netmeeting client (but i really don't if the problem appears also in
> the call to gm client) after some minute the viedo module crash and GM
> windows is inaccessible ... but the audio continue to work so I can talk
> also for lot of time. I don't now if the problem is due to my webcam but
> as i just say i get this problem only when i switch to gm 0.94.1 
> 
> have anyone experienced the same problem  and have a solution ?
> 
> any Idea ?
> 
> bye
> Alkex
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GnomeMeeting-list mailing list
> GnomeMeeting-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
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Le ven 27/12/2002 à 01:29, Everson Denis a écrit :
> checking for PTLib includes...
> checking for /usr/lib/libpt.so... no
> configure: error: You need PTLib to enjoy GnomeMeeting 
> 
> 
> Could anyone help me, please? 

Simple, you need to install PWLib.
Please check the FAQ, there is a detailed installation procedure.

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On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 10:36, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Hi, this was a known bug of GnomeMeeting 0.94.1. Actually, the problem
> was that I was freeing some GtkWidget in the stats display part I
> shouldn't have freed.
> 
> I would suggest you to use the CVS version if your problem appears too
> often. It only appeared on some systems.
> 
> Debs of the CVS version are available here:
> deb ftp://www.gnomemeeting.org/gnomemeeting-cvs/ ./
> apt-get update; apt-get install gnomemeeting-cvs
> 
I've just try but i get a time out from gnomemeeting.org

> We can provide RH8 Rpms on request.





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% *** Alkex <alkex@inwind.it> wrote: ***
% On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 10:36, Damien Sandras wrote:
% > 
% > Debs of the CVS version are available here:
% > deb ftp://www.gnomemeeting.org/gnomemeeting-cvs/ ./
% > apt-get update; apt-get install gnomemeeting-cvs
% > 
% I've just try but i get a time out from gnomemeeting.org
% 

I confirm the site is up !

---------------------------------
user:$ date
Sun Dec 29 12:17:13 CET 2002

user:$ apt-cache policy gnomemeeting-cvs

gnomemeeting-cvs:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 20021229.CVS-1
  Version Table:
     20021229.CVS-1 0
        500 ftp://www.gnomemeeting.org ./ Packages
     20021208.CVS-1 0
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
---------------------------------

Try with your browser (i.e. links) to see if you can still access it.


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On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 11:46, Alkex wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 10:36, Damien Sandras wrote:
> > Hi, this was a known bug of GnomeMeeting 0.94.1. Actually, the problem
> > was that I was freeing some GtkWidget in the stats display part I
> > shouldn't have freed.
> > 
> > I would suggest you to use the CVS version if your problem appears too
> > often. It only appeared on some systems.
> > 
> > Debs of the CVS version are available here:
> > deb ftp://www.gnomemeeting.org/gnomemeeting-cvs/ ./
> > apt-get update; apt-get install gnomemeeting-cvs
> > 
> I've just try but i get a time out from gnomemeeting.org
> 
> > We can provide RH8 Rpms on request.

ok solved, now seems that all it's ok 

thanks  

bye
Alkex


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Just curious. Is it only possible to use ALSA with gnomemeeting through OSS 
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Le dim 29/12/2002 à 16:31, Georgi Georgiev a écrit :
> Just curious. Is it only possible to use ALSA with gnomemeeting through OSS 
> emulation?
> 
Till now yes.
If you want to contribute a PWLib patch, it is welcome :)

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Hi!
I installed the packages of 
http://www.gnomemeeting.org/admin/downloads/latest/suse/misc/
on a SUSE 8.1 (!!) and after a lot of tweaking it worked.
changed firewall settings , stopped artsd, adjusted audio devices 

but it frequently crashes
(gnomemeeting.bin:25024): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289 
(g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(gnomemeeting.bin:25024): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1307 
(g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

and another similar with *color*.c (can't remember)

cu
ferdinand
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PS I am not on the list.

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Hi!

That bug has been fixed in CVS one week after the release, there is
nothing to do except waiting for next release happening soon.


Le dim 29/12/2002 à 17:11, Ferdinand Gassauer a écrit :
> Hi!
> I installed the packages of 
> http://www.gnomemeeting.org/admin/downloads/latest/suse/misc/
> on a SUSE 8.1 (!!) and after a lot of tweaking it worked.
> changed firewall settings , stopped artsd, adjusted audio devices 
> 
> but it frequently crashes
> (gnomemeeting.bin:25024): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1289 
> (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> 
> (gnomemeeting.bin:25024): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: file gobject.c: line 1307 
> (g_object_unref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> 
> and another similar with *color*.c (can't remember)
> 
> cu
> ferdinand
> http://www.goesing.at
> 
> PS I am not on the list.
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Hi,

I read the FAQ, and didn't see an answer to this, so here goes.

If one party in a gnomemeeting is using a quicknet card for G.723.1 or G.729
compression, must the recipient also be using a quicknet card for decompression
? (or can gnomemeeting handle the decompression, just not the compression ?)

thx, and rgds,

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Le lun 30/12/2002 à 10:37, Gregory Hosler a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I read the FAQ, and didn't see an answer to this, so here goes.
> 
> If one party in a gnomemeeting is using a quicknet card for G.723.1 or G.729
> compression, must the recipient also be using a quicknet card for decompression
> ? (or can gnomemeeting handle the decompression, just not the compression ?)
> 

The remote party has to be using a Quicknet card too if you want to use
one of those patented codecs. If the remote party is using Netmeeting,
then the G.723.1 codec is available.

Notice that Quicknet cards have other advantages than the support for
G.723.1 and that they can also use the software codecs like Speex or GSM
provided with GnomeMeeting.

> thx, and rgds,
> 
> -Greg

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I am using the  Gnomemeeting 0.12.2  that came with my Suse 8.0  Here are=
 a=20
few problems that I am having with it while commnucating with others who =
are=20
using Netmeeting and GnomeMeeting:

(1)  While the recipients of my audio often report that the sound I am se=
nding=20
is excellent,  they just as frequently report that it is so tinny (not ti=
ny)=20
as to be unintelligible.  Moreover while the sound transmission can begin=
=20
with excellent quality, it can flip to the tinny sound after a few minute=
s.=20
It never flips from tinny to good. The  quality of the sound that I recei=
ve=20
is always good.=20

(2) The headphone and microphone sound controls on my GnomeMeeting do not=
 work=20
(have no effect whatsoever.)

(3)  The sound volume controls on  my mixers have no effect with gnomemee=
ting=20
although they do work  with all other programs except ohphone. Howvever t=
he=20
mixers do successfully turn my audio transmit on and off.

Problems (1)-(3) also apply to ohphone.


A more minor problem is this:

(4) The  ringing alert for incoming calls does not work while I am runnin=
g=20
GnomeMeeting in KDE but it does while I am runing it in Gnome.

Any help that you might have for me wouldbe greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

Andrew Carson.

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Am Mon, 2002-12-30 um 16.46 schrieb Andrew Carson:
> I am using the  Gnomemeeting 0.12.2  that came with my Suse 8.0  Here are a 
> few problems that I am having with it while commnucating with others who are 
> using Netmeeting and GnomeMeeting:

0.12.2 is a very old release. The latest stable release of GnomeMeeting
is 0.94.1, thus I would suggest you to upgrade your GnomeMeeting.
> 
> (1)  While the recipients of my audio often report that the sound I am sending 
> is excellent,  they just as frequently report that it is so tinny (not tiny) 
> as to be unintelligible.  Moreover while the sound transmission can begin 
> with excellent quality, it can flip to the tinny sound after a few minutes. 
> It never flips from tinny to good. The  quality of the sound that I receive 
> is always good. 

This can have several reasons, bandwidth problems for instance. Which
codec do you use?

> 
> (2) The headphone and microphone sound controls on my GnomeMeeting do not work 
> (have no effect whatsoever.)
> 
> (3)  The sound volume controls on  my mixers have no effect with gnomemeeting 
> although they do work  with all other programs except ohphone. Howvever the 
> mixers do successfully turn my audio transmit on and off.
> 
> Problems (1)-(3) also apply to ohphone.
> 
> 
> A more minor problem is this:
> 
> (4) The  ringing alert for incoming calls does not work while I am running 
> GnomeMeeting in KDE but it does while I am runing it in Gnome.
> 
> Any help that you might have for me wouldbe greatly appreciated.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Andrew Carson.
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Hi!
To avoid to kill artsd - which is frequently suggested - start

artsdsp gnomemeeting 
eventually editing the gnomemeeting.desktop file

see artsdsp.c
/* Evil evil evil hack to get OSS apps to cooperate with artsd
 * This is based on the original esddsp, which esd uses to do the same.
 *
 * Copyright (C) 1998 Manish Singh <yosh@gimp.org>
 * Copyright (C) 2000 Stefan Westerfeld <stefan@space.twc.de> (aRts port)
.....
hope that helps

-- 
cu
ferdinand
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Hi,

Since I managed to trash my Mandrake 9.0 while trying to upgrade some =
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gnomemeeting comes pre-installed on Red Hat seince Red Hat 7.3

RH 7.3 has GM 0.85.1 pre-configured.

rgds,

-Greg

On 31-Dec-2002 Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Since I managed to trash my Mandrake 9.0 while trying to upgrade some
> packages :) , I was thinking to play / learn some more about other UNIX /
> Linux systems, so it crossed my mind to try maybe something from the BSD
> family or maybe Solaris 9 for x86. Anyone managed to install gnomemeeting on
> such thing? I mean painless of course. ;)
> 
> Best regards and a happy new year!!!
> Adrian Golumbovici

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Debian is hard to install, but easy to maintain.
You can run apt-get install gnomemeeting even with a 3 years old system
and it will be installed without pain.

FreeBSD is harder and Solaris is not Free.

Le mar 31/12/2002 à 13:01, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> Hi,
>  
> Since I managed to trash my Mandrake 9.0 while trying to upgrade some
> packages :) , I was thinking to play / learn some more about other
> UNIX / Linux systems, so it crossed my mind to try maybe something
> from the BSD family or maybe Solaris 9 for x86. Anyone managed to
> install gnomemeeting on such thing? I mean painless of course. ;)
>  
> Best regards and a happy new year!!!
> Adrian Golumbovici
-- 
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Thx Damien. OK. I will try to go with debian first then. I can't imagine the
installing is harder than what linux was like about 2-3 years ago so I think
I will manage it.
I'll let you know on the results.

Best regards,
Adrian Golumbovici
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> Debian is hard to install, but easy to maintain.
> You can run apt-get install gnomemeeting even with a 3 years old system
> and it will be installed without pain.
>
> FreeBSD is harder and Solaris is not Free.
>
> Le mar 31/12/2002 à 13:01, Adrian Golumbovici a écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > Since I managed to trash my Mandrake 9.0 while trying to upgrade some
> > packages :) , I was thinking to play / learn some more about other
> > UNIX / Linux systems, so it crossed my mind to try maybe something
> > from the BSD family or maybe Solaris 9 for x86. Anyone managed to
> > install gnomemeeting on such thing? I mean painless of course. ;)
> >
> > Best regards and a happy new year!!!
> > Adrian Golumbovici
> --
> Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com>
>
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That could help to have a native port of GnomeMeeting on OS X when
compiling gnomemeeting with --disable-gnome :

http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/02/12/31/149202.shtml?tid=179

Anybody interested?
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Both my wife and I have Gnomemeeting 0.94.1 installed on our computers both of which run Suse 8.1.
Neither of us is able to  transmit sound although both of us are able to receive both sound and video. 
We have tested the abilty to receive sound by receiving sound sent by netmeeting to gnomemeeting.

Has anyone heard of a similar problem? Does anyone have any suggestions?

Andrew Carson.

PS Originally We were running Suse 8.0 with Gnomemeeting 0.12 that came with it. These could both send and receive sound and video,
but after a while the sound became  so tinny that it was hard to understand. When I posted this to this group, I received the following advice:

>0.12.2 is a very old release. The latest stable release of GnomeMeeting
>is 0.94.1, thus I would suggest you to upgrade your GnomeMeeting.

I  was unable to do this under Suse 8.0 as even the version of pwlib given on the gnomemeeting.org download site with the Suse RPM's for gnomemeeting 0.94.1
would not install in Suse 8.0. I thus installed Suse 8.1. The pwlib, h323 and gnomemeeting 0.94.1 all then installed. At this point I was unable to transmit sound, as described 
above.





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PS We can both transmit sound from our computers when running netmeeting.




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I use GnomeMeeting on FreeBSD. It installs easily from the FreeBSD
Ports, but has support for only a couple of video sources. This makes
it more difficult to use. Incoming video and sound are fine.

I really prefer FreeBSD to Linux for its consistency. It is a complete
OS, unlike the various Linux distros where you have a Linux kernel
surrounded by a variety of software that is put together by each
distributor. FreeBSD is FreeBSD while RedHat and not Debian is not
Mandrake is not Suse, ...

But for GnomeMeeting, Linux is probably still your best bet for video
transmission.

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
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I'm not sure I understand your mail. You tell us :
- A and B communicate
- A and B can receive sound and video
- A and B cannot transmit sound and video

How can you be sure you are able to receive if the remote user is unable
to transmit?

If I had to guess your problem, I would say that you don't have problems
to transmit but that the problem is on reception. 

You don't give enough information yet to debug the problem but:
- Are you behind a NAT gateway or router or is it a direct connection to
the Net ?
- Are you firewalled or not ?

Le mar 31/12/2002 à 18:41, Andrew and Catherine a écrit :
> Both my wife and I have Gnomemeeting 0.94.1 installed on our computers both of which run Suse 8.1.
> Neither of us is able to  transmit sound although both of us are able to receive both sound and video. 
> We have tested the abilty to receive sound by receiving sound sent by netmeeting to gnomemeeting.
> 
> Has anyone heard of a similar problem? Does anyone have any suggestions?
> 
> Andrew Carson.
> 
> PS Originally We were running Suse 8.0 with Gnomemeeting 0.12 that came with it. These could both send and receive sound and video,
> but after a while the sound became  so tinny that it was hard to understand. When I posted this to this group, I received the following advice:
> 
> >0.12.2 is a very old release. The latest stable release of GnomeMeeting
> >is 0.94.1, thus I would suggest you to upgrade your GnomeMeeting.
> 
> I  was unable to do this under Suse 8.0 as even the version of pwlib given on the gnomemeeting.org download site with the Suse RPM's for gnomemeeting 0.94.1
> would not install in Suse 8.0. I thus installed Suse 8.1. The pwlib, h323 and gnomemeeting 0.94.1 all then installed. At this point I was unable to transmit sound, as described 
> above.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Am Die, 2002-12-31 um 18.57 schrieb Kevin Oberman:
> I use GnomeMeeting on FreeBSD. It installs easily from the FreeBSD
> Ports, but has support for only a couple of video sources. This makes
> it more difficult to use. Incoming video and sound are fine.

But it is an old release, isn't it? I think the FreeBSD Ports include
GnomeMeeting 0.85 due to the required libraries (but I am not sure
because I do not use FreeBSD).

> 
> I really prefer FreeBSD to Linux for its consistency. It is a complete
> OS, unlike the various Linux distros where you have a Linux kernel
> surrounded by a variety of software that is put together by each
> distributor. FreeBSD is FreeBSD while RedHat and not Debian is not
> Mandrake is not Suse, ...

That is correct, BSDs are not just a kernel (like linux, for instance).
This solution has advantages and also disadvantages. It is a sensitive
topic which could start a flamewar, thus I think we should not start to
discuss about "linux vs. BSD" ;)
I really agree to you. I also prefer BSD, though I do not like FreeBSD -
I am using NetBSD (hey, we could start a flamewar too ;).

> 
> But for GnomeMeeting, Linux is probably still your best bet for video
> transmission.

Especially on NetBSD because there are still some problems with some
software. Nevertheless it is also possible to use GnomeMeeting.

> 
> R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
> Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
> Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
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