From treework@halenet.com.au Sun Nov 16 21:48:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from cath.halenet.com.au (cath.halenet.com.au [203.55.33.243]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D1718187 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:48:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cath.halenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC62D135F57; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:22:40 +1000 (EST) Received: from cath.halenet.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cath.halenet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 87734-07; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:22:40 +1000 (EST) Received: from modem-132-st.halenet.com.au (modem-132-st.halenet.com.au [203.55.33.132]) by cath.halenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27516136053; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:22:28 +1000 (EST) Subject: memo_file From: Jonathan Rihan To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Cc: users@lists.ximian.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-sZFpKQoY7Cv/9G5F7F9q" Message-Id: <1069020512.1993.16.camel@Treeworks> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:48:11 +0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at halenet.com.au Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-sZFpKQoY7Cv/9G5F7F9q Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit G'day, Can anyone tell me what I have to do to get my Memos to sync. Gnome pilot is working OK with evolution for address, to do and date book, but the memo_file in the home directory is empty, despite several syncs and a whole swag of memos on my palm M515. Also what do I use to install new programs to the palm, something in pilot-link probably but what is the command that i need to use. Please excuse gross ignorance. I am a newbie cast adrift in a big sea alone. Jonathan Rihan --=-sZFpKQoY7Cv/9G5F7F9q Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit G'day,

Can anyone tell me what I have to do to get my Memos to sync.
Gnome pilot is working OK with evolution for address, to do and date book, but the memo_file in the home directory is empty, despite several syncs and a whole swag of memos on my palm M515.

Also what do I use to install new programs to the palm, something in pilot-link probably but what is the command that i need to use.

Please excuse gross ignorance. I am a newbie cast adrift in a big sea alone.

Jonathan Rihan
--=-sZFpKQoY7Cv/9G5F7F9q-- From dr_yunus@internode.on.net Mon Nov 17 04:21:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from internode.on.net (pop.internode.on.net [203.16.214.197]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E04818392 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 04:21:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from internode.on.net (unverified [203.16.214.197]) by internode.on.net (SurgeMail 1.5f) with ESMTP id 7596309 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:50:58 +1030 (CDT) From: "dr_yunus@internode.on.net" To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Subject: initial sync chrash with debian unstable and gnome-pilot X-Mailer: Internode Webmail v3.1a (http://www.internode.on.net/) X-Originating-IP: 150.101.189.100 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:50:58 +1050 Message-id: <3fb892fa.e7.958f.1140105790@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: dr_yunus Domain internode.on.net X-Smite-Info: SmiteCRC Oct 9 2003 X-Smite-CRC: A#1jBzlLa#1EA5lNO#1iTa67d#1LcpQk4$1ox80cr#6S361x#gCpbS5$UUQ886$144II5T Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Reply-To: dr_yunus@internode.on.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi I am usiing debian unstable with kernel 2.4.22. gnome- pilot 2.0.10-2 pilot-link .11.8-7 typing gpilotd gives me the following gpilotd-Message: gnome-pilot 2.0.10 starting... gpilotd-Message: compiled for pilot-link version 0.11.8 gpilotd-Message: compiled with [VFS] [USB] [IrDA] [Network] (gpilotd:2522): gpilotd-WARNING **: Number of pilots is configured to 0 gpilotd-Message: Activating CORBA server gpilotd-Message: bonobo_activation_active_server_register = 0 gpilotd-Message: Watching Cradle (/dev/pilot) I can sync with jpilot and kpilot when I enter gpilotd-control-applet Iget the following ** Message: No pilot userid/username information located ** Message: Unable to load pilot id/username, assuming unset ** Message: No pilot cradle information located ** Message: Unable to load pilot cradle info, assuming unset gpilotd-Message: Activating object OAFIID:GNOME_Pilot_Daemon ** Message: No pilot userid/username information located ** Message: Unable to load pilot id/username, assuming unset ** Message: No pilot cradle information located ** Message: Unable to load pilot cradle info, assuming unset ** Message: No pilot userid/username information located ** Message: Unable to load pilot id/username, assuming unset ** Message: No pilot cradle information located ** Message: Unable to load pilot cradle info, assuming unset Then I pick /dev/pilot usb etc and next and when I put the palm in the cradle and sync for the first time I get an error message saying gpilotd has crashed and the following message in console when I close every thing Any help would be appreciated I have tried varying speeds and /dev/ttyUSB1 (i have a palm m515) although either should work because they do with jpilot and kpilot (gpilotd-control-applet:2558): gpilotd-WARNING **: gnome-pilot-client.gob:896: C aught exception: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0 (gpilotd-control-applet:2558): gpilotd-WARNING **: gnome-pilot-client.gob:484: C From matt@corvil.com Mon Nov 17 05:45:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from corvil.com (gate.corvil.net [213.94.219.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC4D181F4 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:45:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from sirocco.local.corvil.com (sirocco.local.corvil.com [172.18.1.149]) by corvil.com (8.12.9/8.12.5) with ESMTP id hAHAjtd8091671 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:45:55 GMT (envelope-from matt@corvil.com) Received: from sirocco.local.corvil.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by sirocco.local.corvil.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAHAjt39031653 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:45:55 GMT Received: from sirocco.local.corvil.com (matt@localhost) by sirocco.local.corvil.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id hAHAjt0b031649 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:45:55 GMT Message-Id: <200311171045.hAHAjt0b031649@sirocco.local.corvil.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4 To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: memo_file In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:48:11 GMT." <1069020512.1993.16.camel@Treeworks> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:45:54 +0000 From: Matt Davey Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Can anyone tell me what I have to do to get my Memos to sync. Jonathan, There are patches available for the memo_file bug. See message to this list: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-pilot-list/2003-August/msg00093.html and http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114361 As they have still not been incorporated into any official releases (or the source repository), you'll have to check out the sources from CVS (http://cvs.gnome.org/lxr/source/gnome-pilot/), apply the patches and recompile gnome-pilot from the sources. You say you're a newbie, so you mightn't feel like doing all that. If you're running redhat I have a source RPM available which should do the job for you (packaged against redhat 9). Email me if you want the rpm. Matt p.s.: Installing files: pilot-xfer -i file.prc From L@rs-w.de Fri Nov 21 05:43:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA491823C for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:43:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AN8lS-0001vX-KJ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:43:50 +0100 Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE ([130.149.4.15]) by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:43:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailbox.tu-berlin.de ([130.149.4.18]) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AN8lR-0001uy-MN; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:43:49 +0100 Received: from pd9e310eb.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.227.16.235] helo=carryme.shs) by mailbox.tu-berlin.de with asmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AN8lR-0008UM-CM; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:43:49 +0100 Subject: Re: memo_file From: Lars Weissflog To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200311171045.hAHAjt0b031649@sirocco.local.corvil.com> References: <200311171045.hAHAjt0b031649@sirocco.local.corvil.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1069411446.2134.2.camel@carryme.shs> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:44:07 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Sophos MailMonitor on mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:43:50 +0100 Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 11:45, Matt Davey wrote: > > Can anyone tell me what I have to do to get my Memos to sync. > > Jonathan, > You say you're a newbie, so you mightn't feel like doing all that. If > you're running redhat I have a source RPM available which should do the > job for you (packaged against redhat 9). > > Email me if you want the rpm. > If Jonathan is running debian/woody, there are fine backport packages out there which seem to have the fixes included, sources.list should include: deb http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody gnome2.2/ deb-src http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody gnome2.2/ giving gnome-pilot: Installed: 2.0.10-0jds4 as the available version. HTH Lars > Matt > p.s.: Installing files: > pilot-xfer -i file.prc > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-pilot-list mailing list > gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-pilot-list -- LarsWeissflog L@rs-W dot DE From dlux@dl.dlux.hu Sun Nov 23 13:35:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from sakori.sakori.hu (unknown [193.202.89.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3475F1814F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:35:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=dl.dlux.hu ident=dlux) by sakori.sakori.hu with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA:16) (Exim 4.24 and XAMS @VERSION@) id 1ANz5O-0002yA-QS; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:35:55 +0100 Received: from dlux by dl.dlux.hu with local (Exim 4.24) id 1ANt7r-0001iw-5c; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:14:03 +0100 Subject: Re: Synchronizing Maildir From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bal=E1zs_Szab=F3?= To: Gnome-Pilot list Cc: ed@catmur.co.uk In-Reply-To: <1067279954.17568.13.camel@capella.catmur.co.uk> References: <1066718972.3142.111.camel@dl.dlux.hu> <1067244666.17517.29.camel@dl.dlux.hu> <1067279954.17568.13.camel@capella.catmur.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1069589642.4987.14.camel@dl.dlux.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:14:03 +0100 Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear Ed, Thanks for your answer. I applied it, and now it can copy the mails from the maildir to pilot. This patch is great! I currently has only two problem with this (these are the conduit's missing features): - It does not delete the mail from the desktop if I delete from the pilot (synchronization feature missing). - MIME emails are handled badly: it does not decode the MIME messages. I don't really know if it is the conduit-bug or the bug in the email application. I will try to use mhonarc to convert my mails to HTML and plucker to convert them to Palm-readable format until the listed features are not available. Regards, dLux=20 On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 19:39, ed@catmur.co.uk wrote: > You need my patch. >=20 > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-pilot-list/2003-January/msg00053.htm= l >=20 > It applies to sources with a fuzz of 2 (whitespace - easy to fix) >=20 > If you can't compile it yourself, I advise you file a bug and lobby the > devs to include Maildir support. >=20 > Hope this helps >=20 > Ed Catmur >=20 >=20 > On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 08:51, Bal=E1zs Szab=F3 wrote: > > ? > >=20 > > On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 08:49, Bal=E1zs Szab=F3 wrote:=20 > > > Hello, > > >=20 > > > Is it possible to synchronize one folder on my Evolution's maildir > > > account with maildb.pdb on my Treo 180? > > >=20 > > > If yes, then how I have to set up the conduit? > > >=20 > > > Thanks for your answer in advance, > > >=20 > > > Bal=E1zs Szab=F3 (dLux) > > dlux@dlux.hu > > Bal=E1zs Szab=F3 (dLux) > > dlux@dlux.hu Bal=E1zs Szab=F3 (dLux) dlux@dlux.hu From L@rs-w.de Tue Nov 25 14:25:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0774C180E1 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:25:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AOiom-00059s-Jq; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:25:48 +0100 Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE ([130.149.4.15]) by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:25:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailbox.tu-berlin.de ([130.149.4.18]) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AOiol-00059O-M0; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:25:47 +0100 Received: from p5081fa87.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.129.250.135] helo=carryme.shs) by mailbox.tu-berlin.de with asmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AOiok-0008Ie-RJ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:25:47 +0100 Subject: Clie / USB Timing Problem From: Lars Weissflog To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-Id: <1069788365.598.0.camel@carryme.shs> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:26:05 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Sophos MailMonitor on mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:25:47 +0100 Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all,=20 before staring with the problem: This is long. Sorry, but I tried to include as much information as possible, i.e. all I have for now. It's about USB timing problems, dealing with the relevant modules and more related to the usb-subsystem than to pilot-link or gnome-pilot, but I assume those of you who developed the pilot-link stuff and all that know a lot about the USB-stuff as well and might derive from my explanations below that it is _not_ a problem of pilot-link as others on USB-Related lists might propose. So here I go: Some of you might remember that I repeatedly reported about "timing issues" when trying to sync my Sony Clie SJ30 with evolution. Well, this is not evolution or gnome-pilot specific as I learned today. Here is what I have so far: 1) pilot-link's version numbers give me headache, but that's not the core problem, Anyway: -- [1850] moi@carryme:~ $ pilot-xfer --version .--. | (c) Copyright 1996-2003, pilot-link team | | Join the pilot-link lists to help out. | `--' This is pilot-xfer, from pilot-link version 0.11.7 Build target..: i686-pc-linux-gnu Build date....: Feb 9 2003 17:26:03 pilot-link 0.11.7 is covered under the GPL/LGPL See the file COPYING under docs for more info. Please use -h for more detailed options. -- This says it is version 0.11.7. This is the first thing I don't understand. The manpage says in its last line: -- (c) FSF 1996-2003 pilot-link - 0.11.8 pilot-xfer(1) Manual page pilot-xfer(1) line 222/252 (END) -- So according to this it should be 0.11.8. I installed it from Jamie's packages together with gnome-pilot, evolution and so on: -- [1850] moi@carryme:~ $ apt-cache policy pilot-link pilot-link: Installed: 0.11.8-4jds1 Candidate: 0.11.8-4jds1 Version Table: *** 0.11.8-4jds1 0 500 http://ftp.acc.umu.se gnome2.2/ Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 0.9.5.0-8 0 500 http://ftp.de.debian.org stable/main Packages -- Okay, now you'll point me at the possibility that there are manually installed versions on my system. NO!: -- [1849][root@carryme:/]$ updatedb [1850][root@carryme:/]$ locate pilot-xfer /usr/bin/pilot-xfer /usr/share/man/man1/pilot-xfer.1.gz [1850][root@carryme:/]$ -- So, there is definitely only _one_ pilot-xfer binary on my box, and that one claims to be 0.11.7 though Jamie's packages claim to be 0.11.8. STRANGE. But that is not the timing problem I was talking about. See below. 2) Kernel: 2.4.20, build from stock kernel.org sources, several times, working flawlessly, having USB support as modules: -- [1852][root@carryme:/]$ lsmod Module Size Used by Not tainted [...unrelated...] visor 8556 0=20 usbserial 16508 0 [visor] keybdev 1728 0 (unused) mousedev 3768 1=20 hid 18564 0 (unused) input 3296 0 [keybdev mousedev hid] usb-uhci 21196 0 (unused) usbcore 61696 1 [visor usbserial hid usb-uhci] [...unrelated...] [1856][root@carryme:/]$=20 -- Okay, this is all stuff that more or less uses the USB subsystem, and here the problems start: I'm using usb-uhci since (a) someone once mentioned it is the standard driver and should be preferred against uhci (JE-alternative) and (b) vmware requires that one and won't work with the latter.=20 Now, when using usb-uhci I _sometimes_ can connect to my clie (be it in gnome-pilot running gpilotd or, after killing gpilotd, using pilot-xfer), apparently when I hit hotsync on the clie and then, a second or something later start pilot-xfer on the laptop. To make this clear: I _do_ know and understand that I have to hit hotsync first and afterwards start pilot-xfer. OK!?=20 Using the alternative uhci module, I get connected _every_ _single_ _time_, no matter how long I wait between pressing hotsync and executing pilot-xfer. I have recently installed woody on my big machine and that one has a SIS-Chipset, using the usb-ohci module. On that machine I get connected every single time, too. So, apparently the problem I was chasing from time to time over the last year or so arises from the usb-uhci code. There is something I noticed in the kernel log when connecting the clie, but you don't have to read the following output now, I'll come back to it a little later and point you at the strange lines.=20 With usb-uhci I get in /var/log/messages: -- Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-2, assigned address 5 Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc. Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: Product: Palm Handheld Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter detected Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x: Number of ports: 2 Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x: port 1, is for Generic use and is bound to ttyUSB0 Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x: port 2, is for HotSync use and is bound to ttyUSB1 Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 1137 Nov 25 19:06:43 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB0 (or usb/tts/0 for devfs) Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB1 (or usb/tts/1 for devfs) Nov 25 19:06:54 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 838 Nov 25 19:06:57 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout Nov 25 19:06:58 carryme kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 00:07.2-2 address 5 Nov 25 19:06:58 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 Nov 25 19:06:58 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1 -- Starting pilot-xfer at any time during the appearance of these messages, it results in saying: -- [1852] moi@carryme:~ $ pilot-xfer -p /dev/ttyUSB1 -l Listening to port: /dev/ttyUSB1 Please press the HotSync button now...=20 -- So, no connection possible 99% of my tries. in 01% of my tries it seems I have the right timing in my fingers to fire up pilot-xfer in the right moment. STRANGE. THIS IS MY PROBLEM. Okay, next I try the alternative uhci module. First, I unload visor, usbserial and then usb-uhci in that order. Second, I modprobe uhci, usbserial, visor back into kernel again in that order. Finally, I press hotsync on the clie and get the following in var/log/messages: -- -- MARK -- Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-2, assigned address 4 Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc. Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: Product: Palm Handheld Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter detected Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x: Number of ports: 2 Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x: port 1, is for Generic use and is bound to ttyUSB0 Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x: port 2, is for HotSync use and is bound to ttyUSB1 Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB0 (or usb/tts/0 for devfs) Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB1 (or usb/tts/1 for devfs) Nov 25 19:21:30 carryme kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 00:07.2-2 address 4 Nov 25 19:21:30 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 Nov 25 19:21:30 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1 -- With the uhci module, the pilot-xfer listing command runs no matter how long I wait before executing it after those lines saying "... attached to ttyUSB1..." appear in the log.=20 As mentioned above, here we return to the usb-uhci output. What makes me wonder are three additional lines found in /var/log/messages when using usb-uhci, they are: -- Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 1137 Nov 25 19:06:43 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout -- These lines appear twice in that log (see above for the entire log in the usb-uhci case), just after visor.c has bound to USB1 and just after usbserial.c has bound to USB1.=20 So, here I ask the USB-experts out there: What does that timeout message mean? Could it be a problem with a lousy USB-Chipset? lspci gives: -- 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) -- Which belongs to the 440ZX in this HP Omnibook XE3 (PIIIM-700): -- 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge (rev 03) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX AGP bridge (rev 03) -- I found many posts via google dealing with those timeout messages, but nowhere was an answer that would lead to anything. Hope here someone has some tips what to try next. Regards=20 Lars --=20 LarsWeissflog L@rs-W dot DE From steveo@member.fsf.org Tue Nov 25 23:56:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.140]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 55E0D181DC for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:56:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from adsl-66-125-90-94.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net (HELO localhost) (steander@pacbell.net@66.125.90.94 with plain) by smtp1.bt.mail.vip.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Nov 2003 04:56:53 -0000 Subject: Wireless network sync setup help - Sony Clie UX-50 From: "Steven L. Anderson" To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Fugacious Thoughts Message-Id: <1069779670.6165.3.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:01:10 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Reply-To: steveo@member.fsf.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I'd like to be able to use Gnome Pilot to wirelessly (via 802.11) sync my Sony Clie UX-50 with Evolution. I've tried to use the configuration app (gpilotd-control-applet) both from the command line and from within Evolution (Tools|Pilot Settings). It popped up the first use screen so I can set up the configuration options. I clicked forward, which took me to the cradle settings. Here's where I got into trouble. Although I could select Network, I could not figure out how to configure it. Since I want to connect via the network, there is no port. But if I delete the port, I can't click forward. If I leave any devices set in the Port field, I cannot later sync the PDA to get past the initial sync. I would assume, once I click network, that I should be able to set IP, host, etc. information. I'm using Evolution 1.4.5 on Gentoo and gpilotd-control-applet 2.0.10 with a 2.4.20 kernel. I'm able to communicate with the PDA using pilot-xfer (pilot-xfer -p net:192.168.1.102 -l), so I know it's possible with my setup. Any ideas? I have no problem doing hand configuration, if needed, but I don't know where to start. Thanks, Steve -- Steve Anderson steveo@member.fsf.org From emiddell@gmx.net Wed Nov 26 04:27:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from catbert.middell.net (pD9E791F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.231.145.242]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F6818384 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 04:27:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from dilbert.middell.net (dilbert.middell.net [192.168.0.3]) by catbert.middell.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3873AC1C for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:27:44 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Wireless network sync setup help - Sony Clie UX-50 From: Eike Middell To: gnome-pilot-list In-Reply-To: <1069779670.6165.3.camel@localhost> References: <1069779670.6165.3.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1069838836.5196.7.camel@dilbert.middell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:27:16 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Steve, I had the same problem some time (september) ago when I tried to sync my Palm Tungsten T via Bluetooth. pilor-x-fer worked, gpilotd didn't. In this mailing list they told me then that this wouldn't work at the moment with gpilotd, so it seems that the gui of gpilotd presents options that aren't implemented yet. If you can live without evolution try jpilot. This one accepts net:any as device. And of course: since it has been quite a while this information doesn't have to be still correct. Greetings, Eike On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 18:01, Steven L. Anderson wrote: > I'd like to be able to use Gnome Pilot to wirelessly (via 802.11) sync > my Sony Clie UX-50 with Evolution. > > I've tried to use the configuration app (gpilotd-control-applet) both > from the command line and from within Evolution (Tools|Pilot Settings). > It popped up the first use screen so I can set up the configuration > options. > > I clicked forward, which took me to the cradle settings. Here's where I > got into trouble. Although I could select Network, I could not figure > out how to configure it. Since I want to connect via the network, there > is no port. But if I delete the port, I can't click forward. If I > leave any devices set in the Port field, I cannot later sync the PDA to > get past the initial sync. I would assume, once I click network, that I > should be able to set IP, host, etc. information. > > I'm using Evolution 1.4.5 on Gentoo and gpilotd-control-applet 2.0.10 > with a 2.4.20 kernel. > > I'm able to communicate with the PDA using pilot-xfer (pilot-xfer -p > net:192.168.1.102 -l), so I know it's possible with my setup. > > Any ideas? I have no problem doing hand configuration, if needed, but I > don't know where to start. > > Thanks, > > Steve From L@rs-w.de Wed Nov 26 06:20:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9F818279 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:20:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AOxiQ-0007QP-Lj; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:20:14 +0100 Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE ([130.149.4.15]) by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:20:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailbox.tu-berlin.de ([130.149.4.18]) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AOxiQ-0007Pw-Km; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:20:14 +0100 Received: from pd951569c.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.81.86.156] helo=carryme.shs) by mailbox.tu-berlin.de with asmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AOxiP-00016O-8G; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:20:13 +0100 Subject: Re: Clie / USB Timing Problem From: Lars Weissflog To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1069788365.598.0.camel@carryme.shs> References: <1069788365.598.0.camel@carryme.shs> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-Id: <1069845631.606.26.camel@carryme.shs> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:20:31 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Sophos MailMonitor on mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:20:14 +0100 Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Additional Info:=20 I just noticed there are two more line in dmesg: with usb-uhci.o loaded: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout visor.c: visor_startup - error getting first unknown palm command usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout visor.c: visor_startup - error getting second unknown palm command with alternative uhci.o loaded: visor.c: visor_startup - error getting first unknown palm command visor.c: visor_startup - error getting second unknown palm command So, the visor.c lines are suspicious but do not depend on the usb-uhci / uhci difference. Any hints? Regs Lars On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 20:26, Lars Weissflog wrote: > Hi all,=20 >=20 > before staring with the problem: This is long. Sorry, but I tried to > include as much information as possible, i.e. all I have for now. It's > about USB timing problems, dealing with the relevant modules and more > related to the usb-subsystem than to pilot-link or gnome-pilot, but I > assume those of you who developed the pilot-link stuff and all that know > a lot about the USB-stuff as well and might derive from my explanations > below that it is _not_ a problem of pilot-link as others on USB-Related > lists might propose. So here I go: >=20 > Some of you might remember that I repeatedly reported about "timing > issues" when trying to sync my Sony Clie SJ30 with evolution. Well, this > is not evolution or gnome-pilot specific as I learned today. Here is > what I have so far: >=20 > 1) pilot-link's version numbers give me headache, but that's not the > core problem, Anyway: > -- > [1850] moi@carryme:~ $ pilot-xfer --version > .--. > | (c) Copyright 1996-2003, pilot-link team | > | Join the pilot-link lists to help out. | > `--' > This is pilot-xfer, from pilot-link version 0.11.7 >=20 > Build target..: i686-pc-linux-gnu > Build date....: Feb 9 2003 17:26:03 >=20 > pilot-link 0.11.7 is covered under the GPL/LGPL > See the file COPYING under docs for more info. >=20 > Please use -h for more detailed options. > -- > This says it is version 0.11.7. This is the first thing I don't > understand. The manpage says in its last line: >=20 > -- > (c) FSF 1996-2003 pilot-link - 0.11.8 pilot-xfer(1) > Manual page pilot-xfer(1) line 222/252 (END) > -- > So according to this it should be 0.11.8. >=20 > I installed it from Jamie's packages together with gnome-pilot, > evolution and so on: > -- > [1850] moi@carryme:~ $ apt-cache policy pilot-link > pilot-link: > Installed: 0.11.8-4jds1 > Candidate: 0.11.8-4jds1 > Version Table: > *** 0.11.8-4jds1 0 > 500 http://ftp.acc.umu.se gnome2.2/ Packages > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > 0.9.5.0-8 0 > 500 http://ftp.de.debian.org stable/main Packages > -- >=20 > Okay, now you'll point me at the possibility that there are manually > installed versions on my system. NO!: > -- > [1849][root@carryme:/]$ updatedb > [1850][root@carryme:/]$ locate pilot-xfer > /usr/bin/pilot-xfer > /usr/share/man/man1/pilot-xfer.1.gz > [1850][root@carryme:/]$ >=20 > -- > So, there is definitely only _one_ pilot-xfer binary on my box, and that > one claims to be 0.11.7 though Jamie's packages claim to be 0.11.8. > STRANGE. But that is not the timing problem I was talking about. See > below. >=20 > 2) Kernel: 2.4.20, build from stock kernel.org sources, several times, > working flawlessly, having USB support as modules: > -- > [1852][root@carryme:/]$ lsmod > Module Size Used by Not tainted > [...unrelated...] > visor 8556 0=20 > usbserial 16508 0 [visor] > keybdev 1728 0 (unused) > mousedev 3768 1=20 > hid 18564 0 (unused) > input 3296 0 [keybdev mousedev hid] > usb-uhci 21196 0 (unused) > usbcore 61696 1 [visor usbserial hid usb-uhci] > [...unrelated...] > [1856][root@carryme:/]$=20 > -- >=20 > Okay, this is all stuff that more or less uses the USB subsystem, and > here the problems start: I'm using usb-uhci since (a) someone once > mentioned it is the standard driver and should be preferred against uhci > (JE-alternative) and (b) vmware requires that one and won't work with > the latter.=20 > Now, when using usb-uhci I _sometimes_ can connect to my clie (be it in > gnome-pilot running gpilotd or, after killing gpilotd, using > pilot-xfer), apparently when I hit hotsync on the clie and then, a > second or something later start pilot-xfer on the laptop. To make this > clear: I _do_ know and understand that I have to hit hotsync first and > afterwards start pilot-xfer. OK!?=20 > Using the alternative uhci module, I get connected _every_ _single_ > _time_, no matter how long I wait between pressing hotsync and executing > pilot-xfer. > I have recently installed woody on my big machine and that one has a > SIS-Chipset, using the usb-ohci module. On that machine I get connected > every single time, too. >=20 > So, apparently the problem I was chasing from time to time over the last > year or so arises from the usb-uhci code. There is something I noticed > in the kernel log when connecting the clie, but you don't have to read > the following output now, I'll come back to it a little later and point > you at the strange lines.=20 > With usb-uhci I get in /var/log/messages: > -- > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-2, > assigned address 5 > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc. > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: Product: Palm Handheld > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter detected > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / > Cli=E9 4.x: Number of ports: 2 > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / > Cli=E9 4.x: port 1, is for Generic use and is bound to ttyUSB0 > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / > Cli=E9 4.x: port 2, is for HotSync use and is bound to ttyUSB1 > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# > 1137 > Nov 25 19:06:43 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB0 (or usb/tts/0 for devfs) > Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB1 (or usb/tts/1 for devfs) > Nov 25 19:06:54 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# > 838 > Nov 25 19:06:57 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > Nov 25 19:06:58 carryme kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device > 00:07.2-2 address 5 > Nov 25 19:06:58 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 > Nov 25 19:06:58 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1 >=20 > -- > Starting pilot-xfer at any time during the appearance of these messages, > it results in saying: >=20 > -- > [1852] moi@carryme:~ $ pilot-xfer -p /dev/ttyUSB1 -l >=20 > Listening to port: /dev/ttyUSB1 >=20 > Please press the HotSync button now...=20 > -- > So, no connection possible 99% of my tries. in 01% of my tries it seems > I have the right timing in my fingers to fire up pilot-xfer in the right > moment. STRANGE. THIS IS MY PROBLEM. >=20 > Okay, next I try the alternative uhci module. First, I unload visor, > usbserial and then usb-uhci in that order. Second, I modprobe uhci, > usbserial, visor back into kernel again in that order. Finally, I press > hotsync on the clie and get the following in var/log/messages: >=20 > -- > -- MARK -- > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-2, > assigned address 4 > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc. > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: Product: Palm Handheld > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter detected > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / > Cli=E9 4.x: Number of ports: 2 > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / > Cli=E9 4.x: port 1, is for Generic use and is bound to ttyUSB0 > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / > Cli=E9 4.x: port 2, is for HotSync use and is bound to ttyUSB1 > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB0 (or usb/tts/0 for devfs) > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB1 (or usb/tts/1 for devfs) > Nov 25 19:21:30 carryme kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device > 00:07.2-2 address 4 > Nov 25 19:21:30 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 > Nov 25 19:21:30 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1 > -- >=20 > With the uhci module, the pilot-xfer listing command runs no matter how > long I wait before executing it after those lines saying "... attached > to ttyUSB1..." appear in the log.=20 > As mentioned above, here we return to the usb-uhci output. What makes me > wonder are three additional lines found in /var/log/messages when using > usb-uhci, they are: >=20 > -- > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# > 1137 > Nov 25 19:06:43 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > -- >=20 > These lines appear twice in that log (see above for the entire log in > the usb-uhci case), just after visor.c has bound to USB1 and just after > usbserial.c has bound to USB1.=20 >=20 > So, here I ask the USB-experts out there: What does that timeout message > mean? Could it be a problem with a lousy USB-Chipset? lspci gives: > -- > 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) > -- > Which belongs to the 440ZX in this HP Omnibook XE3 (PIIIM-700): >=20 > -- > 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge (rev > 03) > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX AGP bridge (rev > 03) > -- >=20 > I found many posts via google dealing with those timeout messages, but > nowhere was an answer that would lead to anything. Hope here someone has > some tips what to try next. >=20 > Regards=20 > Lars --=20 LarsWeissflog L@rs-W dot DE From stefan@hegner-online.de Fri Nov 28 07:13:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from sally.dts-online.net (sally.dts-online.net [212.62.68.35]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BF01840F for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:13:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from hegi.bogus.heginet.local (213-182-115-168.teleos-web.de [213.182.115.168]) by sally.dts-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C693A3AFA27 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:13:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hegi.bogus.heginet.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD86CCD4 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:13:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from hegi.bogus.heginet.local ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hegi [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01532-02 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:13:37 +0100 (CET) Received: by hegi.bogus.heginet.local (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CBEA8CE10; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:13:35 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Clie / USB Timing Problem From: Stefan Ulrich Hegner To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1069845631.606.26.camel@carryme.shs> References: <1069788365.598.0.camel@carryme.shs> <1069845631.606.26.camel@carryme.shs> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-NCmiT/ZshBWDiqeq3EY3" Message-Id: <1070021614.3493.8.camel@hegi.bogus.heginet.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:13:35 +0100 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bogus.heginet.local Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-NCmiT/ZshBWDiqeq3EY3 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Lars, what you describe is exactly what I have been (and sill am) struggeling with. In short: Clie-SJ30; i440BX Chipset; usb-uhci and plain vanilla-kernel (2.4.20; kernel.org) The following I got myself: Am Mit, den 26.11.2003 schrieb Lars Weissflog um 12:20: > usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > visor.c: visor_startup - error getting first unknown palm command > usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > visor.c: visor_startup - error getting second unknown palm command > > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# > > 1137 > > Nov 25 19:06:43 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > > Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > > So, no connection possible 99% of my tries. in 01% of my tries it seems > > I have the right timing in my fingers to fire up pilot-xfer in the righ= t > > moment. STRANGE. THIS IS MY PROBLEM. Probably I wasn't persistent enough. I only got your 99% - no connection. alternative uhci module wouldn't work on my system. My current status: I downloaded 2.4.22 and patched it to 2.4.23rc2. There is still the interrupt message ... but the syncing works. My gut feeling: This might possibly also be a sony problem, resulting from a not properly implemented serial protocol or whatever. I get this idea, because people with similar setup but different PDAs don't seem to have this trouble. Maybe it's worth trying to contact sony and get an opinion from them. HTH Stefan. --=20 / Stefan Ulrich Hegner aka "Hegi" - Loehne/ Westfalen - Germany \ | stefan@hegner-online.de, my Cyberhome http://www.hegner-web.de| \ GPG-Fprint D9DB 51BD 2DA6 9B3A 41CB 0287 05A1 8D11 38BA CE91 / --=-NCmiT/ZshBWDiqeq3EY3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/xzvuBaGNETi6zpERApU3AJ9ir+j4aNaJ1q5zGESgD+H025AO3wCfZWYl UMSAymIfuOIyM/5HWGJIwtM= =Lihi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-NCmiT/ZshBWDiqeq3EY3-- From L@rs-w.de Sun Nov 30 17:19:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5527D183ED for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:19:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-2) for id 1AQZuv-0006VB-L5; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:19:49 +0100 Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE ([130.149.4.15]) by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:19:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailbox.tu-berlin.de ([130.149.4.18]) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-2) for id 1AQZuv-0006Uj-K6; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:19:49 +0100 Received: from pd9e31bb9.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.227.27.185] helo=carryme.shs) by mailbox.tu-berlin.de with asmtp (exim-4.24-2) for id 1AQZuu-0007ma-K2; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:19:48 +0100 Subject: Re: Clie / USB Timing Problem From: Lars Weissflog To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1070021614.3493.8.camel@hegi.bogus.heginet.local> References: <1069788365.598.0.camel@carryme.shs> <1069845631.606.26.camel@carryme.shs> <1070021614.3493.8.camel@hegi.bogus.heginet.local> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1070230805.617.13.camel@carryme.shs> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:20:06 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Sophos MailMonitor on mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:19:49 +0100 Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 13:13, Stefan Ulrich Hegner wrote: > what you describe is exactly what I have been (and sill am) struggeling > with. That is good news in some sort of way... at least I'm not alone ;-) > Probably I wasn't persistent enough. I only got your 99% - no > connection. > If you get told "that has to work, it works for everyone!" you keep tryin' ;-) > alternative uhci module wouldn't work on my system. > Uh? What does that mean? Doesn't load at all? Doesn't connect? I can't remember having any problems with the alternative module on any system so far, at least not in the "basic" sense (Insmod, compilation etc.) > My current status: I downloaded 2.4.22 and patched it to 2.4.23rc2. > There is still the interrupt message ... but the syncing works. > I'll give .23 a try next weekend. Or maybe its time for 2.6 > My gut feeling: > This might possibly also be a sony problem, resulting from a not > properly implemented serial protocol or whatever. > Yepp, that's what came to my minds before. Wouldn't be the first time Sony produces crap. > I get this idea, because people with similar setup but different PDAs > don't seem to have this trouble. > Unfortunately, I've note met anyone with an USB device by now to test another one. > Maybe it's worth trying to contact sony and get an opinion from them. > I would be very surprised if you would get _any_ answer at all. And if, it certainly would be: We regret to inform you that Sony Inc. does not support linux in any way - And hey, your SJ30 is rather old, how about an upgrade? For only 499 Bucks we could ship you a brand new XJ-S-500-Super (Win32only, of course). But if you'd like to give it a try, tell them they may contact me for details. Good luck. On the other hand: If you say .23rc2 is working, maybe there has been something fixed in the meantime that has never been brought into relation with our problem. And that would blame the fault on the linux side. Or even better: maybe once again the linux coders have found nice little bucks in commercial products and produced non-commercial solutions to ship around them, probably being standard-conform at the same time ;-) I'll see.... Lars > HTH > > Stefan. > > -- LarsWeissflog L@rs-W dot DE From treework@halenet.com.au Sun Nov 16 21:48:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from cath.halenet.com.au (cath.halenet.com.au [203.55.33.243]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D1718187 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:48:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cath.halenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC62D135F57; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:22:40 +1000 (EST) Received: from cath.halenet.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cath.halenet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 87734-07; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:22:40 +1000 (EST) Received: from modem-132-st.halenet.com.au (modem-132-st.halenet.com.au [203.55.33.132]) by cath.halenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27516136053; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:22:28 +1000 (EST) Subject: memo_file From: Jonathan Rihan To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Cc: users@lists.ximian.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-sZFpKQoY7Cv/9G5F7F9q" Message-Id: <1069020512.1993.16.camel@Treeworks> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:48:11 +0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at halenet.com.au Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-sZFpKQoY7Cv/9G5F7F9q Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit G'day, Can anyone tell me what I have to do to get my Memos to sync. Gnome pilot is working OK with evolution for address, to do and date book, but the memo_file in the home directory is empty, despite several syncs and a whole swag of memos on my palm M515. Also what do I use to install new programs to the palm, something in pilot-link probably but what is the command that i need to use. Please excuse gross ignorance. I am a newbie cast adrift in a big sea alone. Jonathan Rihan --=-sZFpKQoY7Cv/9G5F7F9q Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit G'day,

Can anyone tell me what I have to do to get my Memos to sync.
Gnome pilot is working OK with evolution for address, to do and date book, but the memo_file in the home directory is empty, despite several syncs and a whole swag of memos on my palm M515.

Also what do I use to install new programs to the palm, something in pilot-link probably but what is the command that i need to use.

Please excuse gross ignorance. I am a newbie cast adrift in a big sea alone.

Jonathan Rihan
--=-sZFpKQoY7Cv/9G5F7F9q-- From dr_yunus@internode.on.net Mon Nov 17 04:21:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from internode.on.net (pop.internode.on.net [203.16.214.197]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E04818392 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 04:21:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from internode.on.net (unverified [203.16.214.197]) by internode.on.net (SurgeMail 1.5f) with ESMTP id 7596309 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:50:58 +1030 (CDT) From: "dr_yunus@internode.on.net" To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Subject: initial sync chrash with debian unstable and gnome-pilot X-Mailer: Internode Webmail v3.1a (http://www.internode.on.net/) X-Originating-IP: 150.101.189.100 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:50:58 +1050 Message-id: <3fb892fa.e7.958f.1140105790@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: dr_yunus Domain internode.on.net X-Smite-Info: SmiteCRC Oct 9 2003 X-Smite-CRC: A#1jBzlLa#1EA5lNO#1iTa67d#1LcpQk4$1ox80cr#6S361x#gCpbS5$UUQ886$144II5T Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Reply-To: dr_yunus@internode.on.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi I am usiing debian unstable with kernel 2.4.22. gnome- pilot 2.0.10-2 pilot-link .11.8-7 typing gpilotd gives me the following gpilotd-Message: gnome-pilot 2.0.10 starting... gpilotd-Message: compiled for pilot-link version 0.11.8 gpilotd-Message: compiled with [VFS] [USB] [IrDA] [Network] (gpilotd:2522): gpilotd-WARNING **: Number of pilots is configured to 0 gpilotd-Message: Activating CORBA server gpilotd-Message: bonobo_activation_active_server_register = 0 gpilotd-Message: Watching Cradle (/dev/pilot) I can sync with jpilot and kpilot when I enter gpilotd-control-applet Iget the following ** Message: No pilot userid/username information located ** Message: Unable to load pilot id/username, assuming unset ** Message: No pilot cradle information located ** Message: Unable to load pilot cradle info, assuming unset gpilotd-Message: Activating object OAFIID:GNOME_Pilot_Daemon ** Message: No pilot userid/username information located ** Message: Unable to load pilot id/username, assuming unset ** Message: No pilot cradle information located ** Message: Unable to load pilot cradle info, assuming unset ** Message: No pilot userid/username information located ** Message: Unable to load pilot id/username, assuming unset ** Message: No pilot cradle information located ** Message: Unable to load pilot cradle info, assuming unset Then I pick /dev/pilot usb etc and next and when I put the palm in the cradle and sync for the first time I get an error message saying gpilotd has crashed and the following message in console when I close every thing Any help would be appreciated I have tried varying speeds and /dev/ttyUSB1 (i have a palm m515) although either should work because they do with jpilot and kpilot (gpilotd-control-applet:2558): gpilotd-WARNING **: gnome-pilot-client.gob:896: C aught exception: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0 (gpilotd-control-applet:2558): gpilotd-WARNING **: gnome-pilot-client.gob:484: C From matt@corvil.com Mon Nov 17 05:45:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from corvil.com (gate.corvil.net [213.94.219.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC4D181F4 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:45:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from sirocco.local.corvil.com (sirocco.local.corvil.com [172.18.1.149]) by corvil.com (8.12.9/8.12.5) with ESMTP id hAHAjtd8091671 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:45:55 GMT (envelope-from matt@corvil.com) Received: from sirocco.local.corvil.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by sirocco.local.corvil.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAHAjt39031653 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:45:55 GMT Received: from sirocco.local.corvil.com (matt@localhost) by sirocco.local.corvil.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id hAHAjt0b031649 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:45:55 GMT Message-Id: <200311171045.hAHAjt0b031649@sirocco.local.corvil.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4 To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: memo_file In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:48:11 GMT." <1069020512.1993.16.camel@Treeworks> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:45:54 +0000 From: Matt Davey Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Can anyone tell me what I have to do to get my Memos to sync. Jonathan, There are patches available for the memo_file bug. See message to this list: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-pilot-list/2003-August/msg00093.html and http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114361 As they have still not been incorporated into any official releases (or the source repository), you'll have to check out the sources from CVS (http://cvs.gnome.org/lxr/source/gnome-pilot/), apply the patches and recompile gnome-pilot from the sources. You say you're a newbie, so you mightn't feel like doing all that. If you're running redhat I have a source RPM available which should do the job for you (packaged against redhat 9). Email me if you want the rpm. Matt p.s.: Installing files: pilot-xfer -i file.prc From L@rs-w.de Fri Nov 21 05:43:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA491823C for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:43:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AN8lS-0001vX-KJ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:43:50 +0100 Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE ([130.149.4.15]) by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:43:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailbox.tu-berlin.de ([130.149.4.18]) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AN8lR-0001uy-MN; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:43:49 +0100 Received: from pd9e310eb.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.227.16.235] helo=carryme.shs) by mailbox.tu-berlin.de with asmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AN8lR-0008UM-CM; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:43:49 +0100 Subject: Re: memo_file From: Lars Weissflog To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200311171045.hAHAjt0b031649@sirocco.local.corvil.com> References: <200311171045.hAHAjt0b031649@sirocco.local.corvil.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1069411446.2134.2.camel@carryme.shs> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:44:07 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Sophos MailMonitor on mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:43:50 +0100 Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 11:45, Matt Davey wrote: > > Can anyone tell me what I have to do to get my Memos to sync. > > Jonathan, > You say you're a newbie, so you mightn't feel like doing all that. If > you're running redhat I have a source RPM available which should do the > job for you (packaged against redhat 9). > > Email me if you want the rpm. > If Jonathan is running debian/woody, there are fine backport packages out there which seem to have the fixes included, sources.list should include: deb http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody gnome2.2/ deb-src http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody gnome2.2/ giving gnome-pilot: Installed: 2.0.10-0jds4 as the available version. HTH Lars > Matt > p.s.: Installing files: > pilot-xfer -i file.prc > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-pilot-list mailing list > gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-pilot-list -- LarsWeissflog L@rs-W dot DE From dlux@dl.dlux.hu Sun Nov 23 13:35:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from sakori.sakori.hu (unknown [193.202.89.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3475F1814F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:35:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=dl.dlux.hu ident=dlux) by sakori.sakori.hu with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA:16) (Exim 4.24 and XAMS @VERSION@) id 1ANz5O-0002yA-QS; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:35:55 +0100 Received: from dlux by dl.dlux.hu with local (Exim 4.24) id 1ANt7r-0001iw-5c; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:14:03 +0100 Subject: Re: Synchronizing Maildir From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bal=E1zs_Szab=F3?= To: Gnome-Pilot list Cc: ed@catmur.co.uk In-Reply-To: <1067279954.17568.13.camel@capella.catmur.co.uk> References: <1066718972.3142.111.camel@dl.dlux.hu> <1067244666.17517.29.camel@dl.dlux.hu> <1067279954.17568.13.camel@capella.catmur.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1069589642.4987.14.camel@dl.dlux.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:14:03 +0100 Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear Ed, Thanks for your answer. I applied it, and now it can copy the mails from the maildir to pilot. This patch is great! I currently has only two problem with this (these are the conduit's missing features): - It does not delete the mail from the desktop if I delete from the pilot (synchronization feature missing). - MIME emails are handled badly: it does not decode the MIME messages. I don't really know if it is the conduit-bug or the bug in the email application. I will try to use mhonarc to convert my mails to HTML and plucker to convert them to Palm-readable format until the listed features are not available. Regards, dLux=20 On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 19:39, ed@catmur.co.uk wrote: > You need my patch. >=20 > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-pilot-list/2003-January/msg00053.htm= l >=20 > It applies to sources with a fuzz of 2 (whitespace - easy to fix) >=20 > If you can't compile it yourself, I advise you file a bug and lobby the > devs to include Maildir support. >=20 > Hope this helps >=20 > Ed Catmur >=20 >=20 > On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 08:51, Bal=E1zs Szab=F3 wrote: > > ? > >=20 > > On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 08:49, Bal=E1zs Szab=F3 wrote:=20 > > > Hello, > > >=20 > > > Is it possible to synchronize one folder on my Evolution's maildir > > > account with maildb.pdb on my Treo 180? > > >=20 > > > If yes, then how I have to set up the conduit? > > >=20 > > > Thanks for your answer in advance, > > >=20 > > > Bal=E1zs Szab=F3 (dLux) > > dlux@dlux.hu > > Bal=E1zs Szab=F3 (dLux) > > dlux@dlux.hu Bal=E1zs Szab=F3 (dLux) dlux@dlux.hu From L@rs-w.de Tue Nov 25 14:25:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0774C180E1 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:25:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AOiom-00059s-Jq; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:25:48 +0100 Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE ([130.149.4.15]) by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:25:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailbox.tu-berlin.de ([130.149.4.18]) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AOiol-00059O-M0; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:25:47 +0100 Received: from p5081fa87.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.129.250.135] helo=carryme.shs) by mailbox.tu-berlin.de with asmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AOiok-0008Ie-RJ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:25:47 +0100 Subject: Clie / USB Timing Problem From: Lars Weissflog To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-Id: <1069788365.598.0.camel@carryme.shs> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:26:05 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Sophos MailMonitor on mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:25:47 +0100 Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all,=20 before staring with the problem: This is long. Sorry, but I tried to include as much information as possible, i.e. all I have for now. It's about USB timing problems, dealing with the relevant modules and more related to the usb-subsystem than to pilot-link or gnome-pilot, but I assume those of you who developed the pilot-link stuff and all that know a lot about the USB-stuff as well and might derive from my explanations below that it is _not_ a problem of pilot-link as others on USB-Related lists might propose. So here I go: Some of you might remember that I repeatedly reported about "timing issues" when trying to sync my Sony Clie SJ30 with evolution. Well, this is not evolution or gnome-pilot specific as I learned today. Here is what I have so far: 1) pilot-link's version numbers give me headache, but that's not the core problem, Anyway: -- [1850] moi@carryme:~ $ pilot-xfer --version .--. | (c) Copyright 1996-2003, pilot-link team | | Join the pilot-link lists to help out. | `--' This is pilot-xfer, from pilot-link version 0.11.7 Build target..: i686-pc-linux-gnu Build date....: Feb 9 2003 17:26:03 pilot-link 0.11.7 is covered under the GPL/LGPL See the file COPYING under docs for more info. Please use -h for more detailed options. -- This says it is version 0.11.7. This is the first thing I don't understand. The manpage says in its last line: -- (c) FSF 1996-2003 pilot-link - 0.11.8 pilot-xfer(1) Manual page pilot-xfer(1) line 222/252 (END) -- So according to this it should be 0.11.8. I installed it from Jamie's packages together with gnome-pilot, evolution and so on: -- [1850] moi@carryme:~ $ apt-cache policy pilot-link pilot-link: Installed: 0.11.8-4jds1 Candidate: 0.11.8-4jds1 Version Table: *** 0.11.8-4jds1 0 500 http://ftp.acc.umu.se gnome2.2/ Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 0.9.5.0-8 0 500 http://ftp.de.debian.org stable/main Packages -- Okay, now you'll point me at the possibility that there are manually installed versions on my system. NO!: -- [1849][root@carryme:/]$ updatedb [1850][root@carryme:/]$ locate pilot-xfer /usr/bin/pilot-xfer /usr/share/man/man1/pilot-xfer.1.gz [1850][root@carryme:/]$ -- So, there is definitely only _one_ pilot-xfer binary on my box, and that one claims to be 0.11.7 though Jamie's packages claim to be 0.11.8. STRANGE. But that is not the timing problem I was talking about. See below. 2) Kernel: 2.4.20, build from stock kernel.org sources, several times, working flawlessly, having USB support as modules: -- [1852][root@carryme:/]$ lsmod Module Size Used by Not tainted [...unrelated...] visor 8556 0=20 usbserial 16508 0 [visor] keybdev 1728 0 (unused) mousedev 3768 1=20 hid 18564 0 (unused) input 3296 0 [keybdev mousedev hid] usb-uhci 21196 0 (unused) usbcore 61696 1 [visor usbserial hid usb-uhci] [...unrelated...] [1856][root@carryme:/]$=20 -- Okay, this is all stuff that more or less uses the USB subsystem, and here the problems start: I'm using usb-uhci since (a) someone once mentioned it is the standard driver and should be preferred against uhci (JE-alternative) and (b) vmware requires that one and won't work with the latter.=20 Now, when using usb-uhci I _sometimes_ can connect to my clie (be it in gnome-pilot running gpilotd or, after killing gpilotd, using pilot-xfer), apparently when I hit hotsync on the clie and then, a second or something later start pilot-xfer on the laptop. To make this clear: I _do_ know and understand that I have to hit hotsync first and afterwards start pilot-xfer. OK!?=20 Using the alternative uhci module, I get connected _every_ _single_ _time_, no matter how long I wait between pressing hotsync and executing pilot-xfer. I have recently installed woody on my big machine and that one has a SIS-Chipset, using the usb-ohci module. On that machine I get connected every single time, too. So, apparently the problem I was chasing from time to time over the last year or so arises from the usb-uhci code. There is something I noticed in the kernel log when connecting the clie, but you don't have to read the following output now, I'll come back to it a little later and point you at the strange lines.=20 With usb-uhci I get in /var/log/messages: -- Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-2, assigned address 5 Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc. Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: Product: Palm Handheld Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter detected Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x: Number of ports: 2 Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x: port 1, is for Generic use and is bound to ttyUSB0 Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x: port 2, is for HotSync use and is bound to ttyUSB1 Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 1137 Nov 25 19:06:43 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB0 (or usb/tts/0 for devfs) Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB1 (or usb/tts/1 for devfs) Nov 25 19:06:54 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 838 Nov 25 19:06:57 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout Nov 25 19:06:58 carryme kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 00:07.2-2 address 5 Nov 25 19:06:58 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 Nov 25 19:06:58 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1 -- Starting pilot-xfer at any time during the appearance of these messages, it results in saying: -- [1852] moi@carryme:~ $ pilot-xfer -p /dev/ttyUSB1 -l Listening to port: /dev/ttyUSB1 Please press the HotSync button now...=20 -- So, no connection possible 99% of my tries. in 01% of my tries it seems I have the right timing in my fingers to fire up pilot-xfer in the right moment. STRANGE. THIS IS MY PROBLEM. Okay, next I try the alternative uhci module. First, I unload visor, usbserial and then usb-uhci in that order. Second, I modprobe uhci, usbserial, visor back into kernel again in that order. Finally, I press hotsync on the clie and get the following in var/log/messages: -- -- MARK -- Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-2, assigned address 4 Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc. Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: Product: Palm Handheld Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter detected Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x: Number of ports: 2 Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x: port 1, is for Generic use and is bound to ttyUSB0 Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x: port 2, is for HotSync use and is bound to ttyUSB1 Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB0 (or usb/tts/0 for devfs) Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB1 (or usb/tts/1 for devfs) Nov 25 19:21:30 carryme kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 00:07.2-2 address 4 Nov 25 19:21:30 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 Nov 25 19:21:30 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1 -- With the uhci module, the pilot-xfer listing command runs no matter how long I wait before executing it after those lines saying "... attached to ttyUSB1..." appear in the log.=20 As mentioned above, here we return to the usb-uhci output. What makes me wonder are three additional lines found in /var/log/messages when using usb-uhci, they are: -- Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 1137 Nov 25 19:06:43 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout -- These lines appear twice in that log (see above for the entire log in the usb-uhci case), just after visor.c has bound to USB1 and just after usbserial.c has bound to USB1.=20 So, here I ask the USB-experts out there: What does that timeout message mean? Could it be a problem with a lousy USB-Chipset? lspci gives: -- 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) -- Which belongs to the 440ZX in this HP Omnibook XE3 (PIIIM-700): -- 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge (rev 03) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX AGP bridge (rev 03) -- I found many posts via google dealing with those timeout messages, but nowhere was an answer that would lead to anything. Hope here someone has some tips what to try next. Regards=20 Lars --=20 LarsWeissflog L@rs-W dot DE From steveo@member.fsf.org Tue Nov 25 23:56:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.140]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 55E0D181DC for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:56:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from adsl-66-125-90-94.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net (HELO localhost) (steander@pacbell.net@66.125.90.94 with plain) by smtp1.bt.mail.vip.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Nov 2003 04:56:53 -0000 Subject: Wireless network sync setup help - Sony Clie UX-50 From: "Steven L. Anderson" To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Fugacious Thoughts Message-Id: <1069779670.6165.3.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:01:10 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Reply-To: steveo@member.fsf.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I'd like to be able to use Gnome Pilot to wirelessly (via 802.11) sync my Sony Clie UX-50 with Evolution. I've tried to use the configuration app (gpilotd-control-applet) both from the command line and from within Evolution (Tools|Pilot Settings). It popped up the first use screen so I can set up the configuration options. I clicked forward, which took me to the cradle settings. Here's where I got into trouble. Although I could select Network, I could not figure out how to configure it. Since I want to connect via the network, there is no port. But if I delete the port, I can't click forward. If I leave any devices set in the Port field, I cannot later sync the PDA to get past the initial sync. I would assume, once I click network, that I should be able to set IP, host, etc. information. I'm using Evolution 1.4.5 on Gentoo and gpilotd-control-applet 2.0.10 with a 2.4.20 kernel. I'm able to communicate with the PDA using pilot-xfer (pilot-xfer -p net:192.168.1.102 -l), so I know it's possible with my setup. Any ideas? I have no problem doing hand configuration, if needed, but I don't know where to start. Thanks, Steve -- Steve Anderson steveo@member.fsf.org From emiddell@gmx.net Wed Nov 26 04:27:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from catbert.middell.net (pD9E791F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.231.145.242]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F6818384 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 04:27:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from dilbert.middell.net (dilbert.middell.net [192.168.0.3]) by catbert.middell.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3873AC1C for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:27:44 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Wireless network sync setup help - Sony Clie UX-50 From: Eike Middell To: gnome-pilot-list In-Reply-To: <1069779670.6165.3.camel@localhost> References: <1069779670.6165.3.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1069838836.5196.7.camel@dilbert.middell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:27:16 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Steve, I had the same problem some time (september) ago when I tried to sync my Palm Tungsten T via Bluetooth. pilor-x-fer worked, gpilotd didn't. In this mailing list they told me then that this wouldn't work at the moment with gpilotd, so it seems that the gui of gpilotd presents options that aren't implemented yet. If you can live without evolution try jpilot. This one accepts net:any as device. And of course: since it has been quite a while this information doesn't have to be still correct. Greetings, Eike On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 18:01, Steven L. Anderson wrote: > I'd like to be able to use Gnome Pilot to wirelessly (via 802.11) sync > my Sony Clie UX-50 with Evolution. > > I've tried to use the configuration app (gpilotd-control-applet) both > from the command line and from within Evolution (Tools|Pilot Settings). > It popped up the first use screen so I can set up the configuration > options. > > I clicked forward, which took me to the cradle settings. Here's where I > got into trouble. Although I could select Network, I could not figure > out how to configure it. Since I want to connect via the network, there > is no port. But if I delete the port, I can't click forward. If I > leave any devices set in the Port field, I cannot later sync the PDA to > get past the initial sync. I would assume, once I click network, that I > should be able to set IP, host, etc. information. > > I'm using Evolution 1.4.5 on Gentoo and gpilotd-control-applet 2.0.10 > with a 2.4.20 kernel. > > I'm able to communicate with the PDA using pilot-xfer (pilot-xfer -p > net:192.168.1.102 -l), so I know it's possible with my setup. > > Any ideas? I have no problem doing hand configuration, if needed, but I > don't know where to start. > > Thanks, > > Steve From L@rs-w.de Wed Nov 26 06:20:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9F818279 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:20:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AOxiQ-0007QP-Lj; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:20:14 +0100 Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE ([130.149.4.15]) by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:20:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailbox.tu-berlin.de ([130.149.4.18]) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AOxiQ-0007Pw-Km; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:20:14 +0100 Received: from pd951569c.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.81.86.156] helo=carryme.shs) by mailbox.tu-berlin.de with asmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AOxiP-00016O-8G; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:20:13 +0100 Subject: Re: Clie / USB Timing Problem From: Lars Weissflog To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1069788365.598.0.camel@carryme.shs> References: <1069788365.598.0.camel@carryme.shs> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-Id: <1069845631.606.26.camel@carryme.shs> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:20:31 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Sophos MailMonitor on mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:20:14 +0100 Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Additional Info:=20 I just noticed there are two more line in dmesg: with usb-uhci.o loaded: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout visor.c: visor_startup - error getting first unknown palm command usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout visor.c: visor_startup - error getting second unknown palm command with alternative uhci.o loaded: visor.c: visor_startup - error getting first unknown palm command visor.c: visor_startup - error getting second unknown palm command So, the visor.c lines are suspicious but do not depend on the usb-uhci / uhci difference. Any hints? Regs Lars On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 20:26, Lars Weissflog wrote: > Hi all,=20 >=20 > before staring with the problem: This is long. Sorry, but I tried to > include as much information as possible, i.e. all I have for now. It's > about USB timing problems, dealing with the relevant modules and more > related to the usb-subsystem than to pilot-link or gnome-pilot, but I > assume those of you who developed the pilot-link stuff and all that know > a lot about the USB-stuff as well and might derive from my explanations > below that it is _not_ a problem of pilot-link as others on USB-Related > lists might propose. So here I go: >=20 > Some of you might remember that I repeatedly reported about "timing > issues" when trying to sync my Sony Clie SJ30 with evolution. Well, this > is not evolution or gnome-pilot specific as I learned today. Here is > what I have so far: >=20 > 1) pilot-link's version numbers give me headache, but that's not the > core problem, Anyway: > -- > [1850] moi@carryme:~ $ pilot-xfer --version > .--. > | (c) Copyright 1996-2003, pilot-link team | > | Join the pilot-link lists to help out. | > `--' > This is pilot-xfer, from pilot-link version 0.11.7 >=20 > Build target..: i686-pc-linux-gnu > Build date....: Feb 9 2003 17:26:03 >=20 > pilot-link 0.11.7 is covered under the GPL/LGPL > See the file COPYING under docs for more info. >=20 > Please use -h for more detailed options. > -- > This says it is version 0.11.7. This is the first thing I don't > understand. The manpage says in its last line: >=20 > -- > (c) FSF 1996-2003 pilot-link - 0.11.8 pilot-xfer(1) > Manual page pilot-xfer(1) line 222/252 (END) > -- > So according to this it should be 0.11.8. >=20 > I installed it from Jamie's packages together with gnome-pilot, > evolution and so on: > -- > [1850] moi@carryme:~ $ apt-cache policy pilot-link > pilot-link: > Installed: 0.11.8-4jds1 > Candidate: 0.11.8-4jds1 > Version Table: > *** 0.11.8-4jds1 0 > 500 http://ftp.acc.umu.se gnome2.2/ Packages > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > 0.9.5.0-8 0 > 500 http://ftp.de.debian.org stable/main Packages > -- >=20 > Okay, now you'll point me at the possibility that there are manually > installed versions on my system. NO!: > -- > [1849][root@carryme:/]$ updatedb > [1850][root@carryme:/]$ locate pilot-xfer > /usr/bin/pilot-xfer > /usr/share/man/man1/pilot-xfer.1.gz > [1850][root@carryme:/]$ >=20 > -- > So, there is definitely only _one_ pilot-xfer binary on my box, and that > one claims to be 0.11.7 though Jamie's packages claim to be 0.11.8. > STRANGE. But that is not the timing problem I was talking about. See > below. >=20 > 2) Kernel: 2.4.20, build from stock kernel.org sources, several times, > working flawlessly, having USB support as modules: > -- > [1852][root@carryme:/]$ lsmod > Module Size Used by Not tainted > [...unrelated...] > visor 8556 0=20 > usbserial 16508 0 [visor] > keybdev 1728 0 (unused) > mousedev 3768 1=20 > hid 18564 0 (unused) > input 3296 0 [keybdev mousedev hid] > usb-uhci 21196 0 (unused) > usbcore 61696 1 [visor usbserial hid usb-uhci] > [...unrelated...] > [1856][root@carryme:/]$=20 > -- >=20 > Okay, this is all stuff that more or less uses the USB subsystem, and > here the problems start: I'm using usb-uhci since (a) someone once > mentioned it is the standard driver and should be preferred against uhci > (JE-alternative) and (b) vmware requires that one and won't work with > the latter.=20 > Now, when using usb-uhci I _sometimes_ can connect to my clie (be it in > gnome-pilot running gpilotd or, after killing gpilotd, using > pilot-xfer), apparently when I hit hotsync on the clie and then, a > second or something later start pilot-xfer on the laptop. To make this > clear: I _do_ know and understand that I have to hit hotsync first and > afterwards start pilot-xfer. OK!?=20 > Using the alternative uhci module, I get connected _every_ _single_ > _time_, no matter how long I wait between pressing hotsync and executing > pilot-xfer. > I have recently installed woody on my big machine and that one has a > SIS-Chipset, using the usb-ohci module. On that machine I get connected > every single time, too. >=20 > So, apparently the problem I was chasing from time to time over the last > year or so arises from the usb-uhci code. There is something I noticed > in the kernel log when connecting the clie, but you don't have to read > the following output now, I'll come back to it a little later and point > you at the strange lines.=20 > With usb-uhci I get in /var/log/messages: > -- > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-2, > assigned address 5 > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc. > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: Product: Palm Handheld > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter detected > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / > Cli=E9 4.x: Number of ports: 2 > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / > Cli=E9 4.x: port 1, is for Generic use and is bound to ttyUSB0 > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / > Cli=E9 4.x: port 2, is for HotSync use and is bound to ttyUSB1 > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# > 1137 > Nov 25 19:06:43 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB0 (or usb/tts/0 for devfs) > Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB1 (or usb/tts/1 for devfs) > Nov 25 19:06:54 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# > 838 > Nov 25 19:06:57 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > Nov 25 19:06:58 carryme kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device > 00:07.2-2 address 5 > Nov 25 19:06:58 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 > Nov 25 19:06:58 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1 >=20 > -- > Starting pilot-xfer at any time during the appearance of these messages, > it results in saying: >=20 > -- > [1852] moi@carryme:~ $ pilot-xfer -p /dev/ttyUSB1 -l >=20 > Listening to port: /dev/ttyUSB1 >=20 > Please press the HotSync button now...=20 > -- > So, no connection possible 99% of my tries. in 01% of my tries it seems > I have the right timing in my fingers to fire up pilot-xfer in the right > moment. STRANGE. THIS IS MY PROBLEM. >=20 > Okay, next I try the alternative uhci module. First, I unload visor, > usbserial and then usb-uhci in that order. Second, I modprobe uhci, > usbserial, visor back into kernel again in that order. Finally, I press > hotsync on the clie and get the following in var/log/messages: >=20 > -- > -- MARK -- > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-2, > assigned address 4 > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc. > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: Product: Palm Handheld > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter detected > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / > Cli=E9 4.x: Number of ports: 2 > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / > Cli=E9 4.x: port 1, is for Generic use and is bound to ttyUSB0 > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / > Cli=E9 4.x: port 2, is for HotSync use and is bound to ttyUSB1 > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB0 (or usb/tts/0 for devfs) > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB1 (or usb/tts/1 for devfs) > Nov 25 19:21:30 carryme kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device > 00:07.2-2 address 4 > Nov 25 19:21:30 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 > Nov 25 19:21:30 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1 > -- >=20 > With the uhci module, the pilot-xfer listing command runs no matter how > long I wait before executing it after those lines saying "... attached > to ttyUSB1..." appear in the log.=20 > As mentioned above, here we return to the usb-uhci output. What makes me > wonder are three additional lines found in /var/log/messages when using > usb-uhci, they are: >=20 > -- > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# > 1137 > Nov 25 19:06:43 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > -- >=20 > These lines appear twice in that log (see above for the entire log in > the usb-uhci case), just after visor.c has bound to USB1 and just after > usbserial.c has bound to USB1.=20 >=20 > So, here I ask the USB-experts out there: What does that timeout message > mean? Could it be a problem with a lousy USB-Chipset? lspci gives: > -- > 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) > -- > Which belongs to the 440ZX in this HP Omnibook XE3 (PIIIM-700): >=20 > -- > 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge (rev > 03) > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX AGP bridge (rev > 03) > -- >=20 > I found many posts via google dealing with those timeout messages, but > nowhere was an answer that would lead to anything. Hope here someone has > some tips what to try next. >=20 > Regards=20 > Lars --=20 LarsWeissflog L@rs-W dot DE From stefan@hegner-online.de Fri Nov 28 07:13:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from sally.dts-online.net (sally.dts-online.net [212.62.68.35]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BF01840F for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:13:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from hegi.bogus.heginet.local (213-182-115-168.teleos-web.de [213.182.115.168]) by sally.dts-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C693A3AFA27 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:13:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hegi.bogus.heginet.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD86CCD4 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:13:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from hegi.bogus.heginet.local ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hegi [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01532-02 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:13:37 +0100 (CET) Received: by hegi.bogus.heginet.local (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CBEA8CE10; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:13:35 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Clie / USB Timing Problem From: Stefan Ulrich Hegner To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1069845631.606.26.camel@carryme.shs> References: <1069788365.598.0.camel@carryme.shs> <1069845631.606.26.camel@carryme.shs> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-NCmiT/ZshBWDiqeq3EY3" Message-Id: <1070021614.3493.8.camel@hegi.bogus.heginet.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:13:35 +0100 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bogus.heginet.local Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-NCmiT/ZshBWDiqeq3EY3 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Lars, what you describe is exactly what I have been (and sill am) struggeling with. In short: Clie-SJ30; i440BX Chipset; usb-uhci and plain vanilla-kernel (2.4.20; kernel.org) The following I got myself: Am Mit, den 26.11.2003 schrieb Lars Weissflog um 12:20: > usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > visor.c: visor_startup - error getting first unknown palm command > usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > visor.c: visor_startup - error getting second unknown palm command > > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# > > 1137 > > Nov 25 19:06:43 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > > Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > > So, no connection possible 99% of my tries. in 01% of my tries it seems > > I have the right timing in my fingers to fire up pilot-xfer in the righ= t > > moment. STRANGE. THIS IS MY PROBLEM. Probably I wasn't persistent enough. I only got your 99% - no connection. alternative uhci module wouldn't work on my system. My current status: I downloaded 2.4.22 and patched it to 2.4.23rc2. There is still the interrupt message ... but the syncing works. My gut feeling: This might possibly also be a sony problem, resulting from a not properly implemented serial protocol or whatever. I get this idea, because people with similar setup but different PDAs don't seem to have this trouble. Maybe it's worth trying to contact sony and get an opinion from them. HTH Stefan. --=20 / Stefan Ulrich Hegner aka "Hegi" - Loehne/ Westfalen - Germany \ | stefan@hegner-online.de, my Cyberhome http://www.hegner-web.de| \ GPG-Fprint D9DB 51BD 2DA6 9B3A 41CB 0287 05A1 8D11 38BA CE91 / --=-NCmiT/ZshBWDiqeq3EY3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/xzvuBaGNETi6zpERApU3AJ9ir+j4aNaJ1q5zGESgD+H025AO3wCfZWYl UMSAymIfuOIyM/5HWGJIwtM= =Lihi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-NCmiT/ZshBWDiqeq3EY3-- From L@rs-w.de Sun Nov 30 17:19:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5527D183ED for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:19:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-2) for id 1AQZuv-0006VB-L5; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:19:49 +0100 Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE ([130.149.4.15]) by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:19:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailbox.tu-berlin.de ([130.149.4.18]) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-2) for id 1AQZuv-0006Uj-K6; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:19:49 +0100 Received: from pd9e31bb9.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.227.27.185] helo=carryme.shs) by mailbox.tu-berlin.de with asmtp (exim-4.24-2) for id 1AQZuu-0007ma-K2; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:19:48 +0100 Subject: Re: Clie / USB Timing Problem From: Lars Weissflog To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1070021614.3493.8.camel@hegi.bogus.heginet.local> References: <1069788365.598.0.camel@carryme.shs> <1069845631.606.26.camel@carryme.shs> <1070021614.3493.8.camel@hegi.bogus.heginet.local> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1070230805.617.13.camel@carryme.shs> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:20:06 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Sophos MailMonitor on mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:19:49 +0100 Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 13:13, Stefan Ulrich Hegner wrote: > what you describe is exactly what I have been (and sill am) struggeling > with. That is good news in some sort of way... at least I'm not alone ;-) > Probably I wasn't persistent enough. I only got your 99% - no > connection. > If you get told "that has to work, it works for everyone!" you keep tryin' ;-) > alternative uhci module wouldn't work on my system. > Uh? What does that mean? Doesn't load at all? Doesn't connect? I can't remember having any problems with the alternative module on any system so far, at least not in the "basic" sense (Insmod, compilation etc.) > My current status: I downloaded 2.4.22 and patched it to 2.4.23rc2. > There is still the interrupt message ... but the syncing works. > I'll give .23 a try next weekend. Or maybe its time for 2.6 > My gut feeling: > This might possibly also be a sony problem, resulting from a not > properly implemented serial protocol or whatever. > Yepp, that's what came to my minds before. Wouldn't be the first time Sony produces crap. > I get this idea, because people with similar setup but different PDAs > don't seem to have this trouble. > Unfortunately, I've note met anyone with an USB device by now to test another one. > Maybe it's worth trying to contact sony and get an opinion from them. > I would be very surprised if you would get _any_ answer at all. And if, it certainly would be: We regret to inform you that Sony Inc. does not support linux in any way - And hey, your SJ30 is rather old, how about an upgrade? For only 499 Bucks we could ship you a brand new XJ-S-500-Super (Win32only, of course). But if you'd like to give it a try, tell them they may contact me for details. Good luck. On the other hand: If you say .23rc2 is working, maybe there has been something fixed in the meantime that has never been brought into relation with our problem. And that would blame the fault on the linux side. Or even better: maybe once again the linux coders have found nice little bucks in commercial products and produced non-commercial solutions to ship around them, probably being standard-conform at the same time ;-) I'll see.... Lars > HTH > > Stefan. > > -- LarsWeissflog L@rs-W dot DE From treework@halenet.com.au Sun Nov 16 21:48:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from cath.halenet.com.au (cath.halenet.com.au [203.55.33.243]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D1718187 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:48:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cath.halenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC62D135F57; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:22:40 +1000 (EST) Received: from cath.halenet.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cath.halenet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 87734-07; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:22:40 +1000 (EST) Received: from modem-132-st.halenet.com.au (modem-132-st.halenet.com.au [203.55.33.132]) by cath.halenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27516136053; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:22:28 +1000 (EST) Subject: memo_file From: Jonathan Rihan To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Cc: users@lists.ximian.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-sZFpKQoY7Cv/9G5F7F9q" Message-Id: <1069020512.1993.16.camel@Treeworks> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:48:11 +0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at halenet.com.au Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-sZFpKQoY7Cv/9G5F7F9q Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit G'day, Can anyone tell me what I have to do to get my Memos to sync. Gnome pilot is working OK with evolution for address, to do and date book, but the memo_file in the home directory is empty, despite several syncs and a whole swag of memos on my palm M515. Also what do I use to install new programs to the palm, something in pilot-link probably but what is the command that i need to use. Please excuse gross ignorance. I am a newbie cast adrift in a big sea alone. Jonathan Rihan --=-sZFpKQoY7Cv/9G5F7F9q Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit G'day,

Can anyone tell me what I have to do to get my Memos to sync.
Gnome pilot is working OK with evolution for address, to do and date book, but the memo_file in the home directory is empty, despite several syncs and a whole swag of memos on my palm M515.

Also what do I use to install new programs to the palm, something in pilot-link probably but what is the command that i need to use.

Please excuse gross ignorance. I am a newbie cast adrift in a big sea alone.

Jonathan Rihan
--=-sZFpKQoY7Cv/9G5F7F9q-- From dr_yunus@internode.on.net Mon Nov 17 04:21:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from internode.on.net (pop.internode.on.net [203.16.214.197]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E04818392 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 04:21:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from internode.on.net (unverified [203.16.214.197]) by internode.on.net (SurgeMail 1.5f) with ESMTP id 7596309 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:50:58 +1030 (CDT) From: "dr_yunus@internode.on.net" To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Subject: initial sync chrash with debian unstable and gnome-pilot X-Mailer: Internode Webmail v3.1a (http://www.internode.on.net/) X-Originating-IP: 150.101.189.100 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:50:58 +1050 Message-id: <3fb892fa.e7.958f.1140105790@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: dr_yunus Domain internode.on.net X-Smite-Info: SmiteCRC Oct 9 2003 X-Smite-CRC: A#1jBzlLa#1EA5lNO#1iTa67d#1LcpQk4$1ox80cr#6S361x#gCpbS5$UUQ886$144II5T Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Reply-To: dr_yunus@internode.on.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi I am usiing debian unstable with kernel 2.4.22. gnome- pilot 2.0.10-2 pilot-link .11.8-7 typing gpilotd gives me the following gpilotd-Message: gnome-pilot 2.0.10 starting... gpilotd-Message: compiled for pilot-link version 0.11.8 gpilotd-Message: compiled with [VFS] [USB] [IrDA] [Network] (gpilotd:2522): gpilotd-WARNING **: Number of pilots is configured to 0 gpilotd-Message: Activating CORBA server gpilotd-Message: bonobo_activation_active_server_register = 0 gpilotd-Message: Watching Cradle (/dev/pilot) I can sync with jpilot and kpilot when I enter gpilotd-control-applet Iget the following ** Message: No pilot userid/username information located ** Message: Unable to load pilot id/username, assuming unset ** Message: No pilot cradle information located ** Message: Unable to load pilot cradle info, assuming unset gpilotd-Message: Activating object OAFIID:GNOME_Pilot_Daemon ** Message: No pilot userid/username information located ** Message: Unable to load pilot id/username, assuming unset ** Message: No pilot cradle information located ** Message: Unable to load pilot cradle info, assuming unset ** Message: No pilot userid/username information located ** Message: Unable to load pilot id/username, assuming unset ** Message: No pilot cradle information located ** Message: Unable to load pilot cradle info, assuming unset Then I pick /dev/pilot usb etc and next and when I put the palm in the cradle and sync for the first time I get an error message saying gpilotd has crashed and the following message in console when I close every thing Any help would be appreciated I have tried varying speeds and /dev/ttyUSB1 (i have a palm m515) although either should work because they do with jpilot and kpilot (gpilotd-control-applet:2558): gpilotd-WARNING **: gnome-pilot-client.gob:896: C aught exception: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0 (gpilotd-control-applet:2558): gpilotd-WARNING **: gnome-pilot-client.gob:484: C From matt@corvil.com Mon Nov 17 05:45:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from corvil.com (gate.corvil.net [213.94.219.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC4D181F4 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:45:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from sirocco.local.corvil.com (sirocco.local.corvil.com [172.18.1.149]) by corvil.com (8.12.9/8.12.5) with ESMTP id hAHAjtd8091671 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:45:55 GMT (envelope-from matt@corvil.com) Received: from sirocco.local.corvil.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by sirocco.local.corvil.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAHAjt39031653 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:45:55 GMT Received: from sirocco.local.corvil.com (matt@localhost) by sirocco.local.corvil.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id hAHAjt0b031649 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:45:55 GMT Message-Id: <200311171045.hAHAjt0b031649@sirocco.local.corvil.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4 To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: memo_file In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:48:11 GMT." <1069020512.1993.16.camel@Treeworks> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:45:54 +0000 From: Matt Davey Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Can anyone tell me what I have to do to get my Memos to sync. Jonathan, There are patches available for the memo_file bug. See message to this list: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-pilot-list/2003-August/msg00093.html and http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114361 As they have still not been incorporated into any official releases (or the source repository), you'll have to check out the sources from CVS (http://cvs.gnome.org/lxr/source/gnome-pilot/), apply the patches and recompile gnome-pilot from the sources. You say you're a newbie, so you mightn't feel like doing all that. If you're running redhat I have a source RPM available which should do the job for you (packaged against redhat 9). Email me if you want the rpm. Matt p.s.: Installing files: pilot-xfer -i file.prc From L@rs-w.de Fri Nov 21 05:43:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA491823C for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:43:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AN8lS-0001vX-KJ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:43:50 +0100 Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE ([130.149.4.15]) by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:43:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailbox.tu-berlin.de ([130.149.4.18]) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AN8lR-0001uy-MN; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:43:49 +0100 Received: from pd9e310eb.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.227.16.235] helo=carryme.shs) by mailbox.tu-berlin.de with asmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AN8lR-0008UM-CM; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:43:49 +0100 Subject: Re: memo_file From: Lars Weissflog To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200311171045.hAHAjt0b031649@sirocco.local.corvil.com> References: <200311171045.hAHAjt0b031649@sirocco.local.corvil.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1069411446.2134.2.camel@carryme.shs> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:44:07 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Sophos MailMonitor on mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:43:50 +0100 Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 11:45, Matt Davey wrote: > > Can anyone tell me what I have to do to get my Memos to sync. > > Jonathan, > You say you're a newbie, so you mightn't feel like doing all that. If > you're running redhat I have a source RPM available which should do the > job for you (packaged against redhat 9). > > Email me if you want the rpm. > If Jonathan is running debian/woody, there are fine backport packages out there which seem to have the fixes included, sources.list should include: deb http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody gnome2.2/ deb-src http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody gnome2.2/ giving gnome-pilot: Installed: 2.0.10-0jds4 as the available version. HTH Lars > Matt > p.s.: Installing files: > pilot-xfer -i file.prc > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-pilot-list mailing list > gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-pilot-list -- LarsWeissflog L@rs-W dot DE From dlux@dl.dlux.hu Sun Nov 23 13:35:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from sakori.sakori.hu (unknown [193.202.89.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3475F1814F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:35:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=dl.dlux.hu ident=dlux) by sakori.sakori.hu with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA:16) (Exim 4.24 and XAMS @VERSION@) id 1ANz5O-0002yA-QS; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:35:55 +0100 Received: from dlux by dl.dlux.hu with local (Exim 4.24) id 1ANt7r-0001iw-5c; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:14:03 +0100 Subject: Re: Synchronizing Maildir From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bal=E1zs_Szab=F3?= To: Gnome-Pilot list Cc: ed@catmur.co.uk In-Reply-To: <1067279954.17568.13.camel@capella.catmur.co.uk> References: <1066718972.3142.111.camel@dl.dlux.hu> <1067244666.17517.29.camel@dl.dlux.hu> <1067279954.17568.13.camel@capella.catmur.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1069589642.4987.14.camel@dl.dlux.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:14:03 +0100 Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear Ed, Thanks for your answer. I applied it, and now it can copy the mails from the maildir to pilot. This patch is great! I currently has only two problem with this (these are the conduit's missing features): - It does not delete the mail from the desktop if I delete from the pilot (synchronization feature missing). - MIME emails are handled badly: it does not decode the MIME messages. I don't really know if it is the conduit-bug or the bug in the email application. I will try to use mhonarc to convert my mails to HTML and plucker to convert them to Palm-readable format until the listed features are not available. Regards, dLux=20 On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 19:39, ed@catmur.co.uk wrote: > You need my patch. >=20 > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-pilot-list/2003-January/msg00053.htm= l >=20 > It applies to sources with a fuzz of 2 (whitespace - easy to fix) >=20 > If you can't compile it yourself, I advise you file a bug and lobby the > devs to include Maildir support. >=20 > Hope this helps >=20 > Ed Catmur >=20 >=20 > On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 08:51, Bal=E1zs Szab=F3 wrote: > > ? > >=20 > > On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 08:49, Bal=E1zs Szab=F3 wrote:=20 > > > Hello, > > >=20 > > > Is it possible to synchronize one folder on my Evolution's maildir > > > account with maildb.pdb on my Treo 180? > > >=20 > > > If yes, then how I have to set up the conduit? > > >=20 > > > Thanks for your answer in advance, > > >=20 > > > Bal=E1zs Szab=F3 (dLux) > > dlux@dlux.hu > > Bal=E1zs Szab=F3 (dLux) > > dlux@dlux.hu Bal=E1zs Szab=F3 (dLux) dlux@dlux.hu From L@rs-w.de Tue Nov 25 14:25:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0774C180E1 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:25:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AOiom-00059s-Jq; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:25:48 +0100 Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE ([130.149.4.15]) by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:25:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailbox.tu-berlin.de ([130.149.4.18]) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AOiol-00059O-M0; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:25:47 +0100 Received: from p5081fa87.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.129.250.135] helo=carryme.shs) by mailbox.tu-berlin.de with asmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AOiok-0008Ie-RJ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:25:47 +0100 Subject: Clie / USB Timing Problem From: Lars Weissflog To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-Id: <1069788365.598.0.camel@carryme.shs> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:26:05 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Sophos MailMonitor on mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:25:47 +0100 Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all,=20 before staring with the problem: This is long. Sorry, but I tried to include as much information as possible, i.e. all I have for now. It's about USB timing problems, dealing with the relevant modules and more related to the usb-subsystem than to pilot-link or gnome-pilot, but I assume those of you who developed the pilot-link stuff and all that know a lot about the USB-stuff as well and might derive from my explanations below that it is _not_ a problem of pilot-link as others on USB-Related lists might propose. So here I go: Some of you might remember that I repeatedly reported about "timing issues" when trying to sync my Sony Clie SJ30 with evolution. Well, this is not evolution or gnome-pilot specific as I learned today. Here is what I have so far: 1) pilot-link's version numbers give me headache, but that's not the core problem, Anyway: -- [1850] moi@carryme:~ $ pilot-xfer --version .--. | (c) Copyright 1996-2003, pilot-link team | | Join the pilot-link lists to help out. | `--' This is pilot-xfer, from pilot-link version 0.11.7 Build target..: i686-pc-linux-gnu Build date....: Feb 9 2003 17:26:03 pilot-link 0.11.7 is covered under the GPL/LGPL See the file COPYING under docs for more info. Please use -h for more detailed options. -- This says it is version 0.11.7. This is the first thing I don't understand. The manpage says in its last line: -- (c) FSF 1996-2003 pilot-link - 0.11.8 pilot-xfer(1) Manual page pilot-xfer(1) line 222/252 (END) -- So according to this it should be 0.11.8. I installed it from Jamie's packages together with gnome-pilot, evolution and so on: -- [1850] moi@carryme:~ $ apt-cache policy pilot-link pilot-link: Installed: 0.11.8-4jds1 Candidate: 0.11.8-4jds1 Version Table: *** 0.11.8-4jds1 0 500 http://ftp.acc.umu.se gnome2.2/ Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 0.9.5.0-8 0 500 http://ftp.de.debian.org stable/main Packages -- Okay, now you'll point me at the possibility that there are manually installed versions on my system. NO!: -- [1849][root@carryme:/]$ updatedb [1850][root@carryme:/]$ locate pilot-xfer /usr/bin/pilot-xfer /usr/share/man/man1/pilot-xfer.1.gz [1850][root@carryme:/]$ -- So, there is definitely only _one_ pilot-xfer binary on my box, and that one claims to be 0.11.7 though Jamie's packages claim to be 0.11.8. STRANGE. But that is not the timing problem I was talking about. See below. 2) Kernel: 2.4.20, build from stock kernel.org sources, several times, working flawlessly, having USB support as modules: -- [1852][root@carryme:/]$ lsmod Module Size Used by Not tainted [...unrelated...] visor 8556 0=20 usbserial 16508 0 [visor] keybdev 1728 0 (unused) mousedev 3768 1=20 hid 18564 0 (unused) input 3296 0 [keybdev mousedev hid] usb-uhci 21196 0 (unused) usbcore 61696 1 [visor usbserial hid usb-uhci] [...unrelated...] [1856][root@carryme:/]$=20 -- Okay, this is all stuff that more or less uses the USB subsystem, and here the problems start: I'm using usb-uhci since (a) someone once mentioned it is the standard driver and should be preferred against uhci (JE-alternative) and (b) vmware requires that one and won't work with the latter.=20 Now, when using usb-uhci I _sometimes_ can connect to my clie (be it in gnome-pilot running gpilotd or, after killing gpilotd, using pilot-xfer), apparently when I hit hotsync on the clie and then, a second or something later start pilot-xfer on the laptop. To make this clear: I _do_ know and understand that I have to hit hotsync first and afterwards start pilot-xfer. OK!?=20 Using the alternative uhci module, I get connected _every_ _single_ _time_, no matter how long I wait between pressing hotsync and executing pilot-xfer. I have recently installed woody on my big machine and that one has a SIS-Chipset, using the usb-ohci module. On that machine I get connected every single time, too. So, apparently the problem I was chasing from time to time over the last year or so arises from the usb-uhci code. There is something I noticed in the kernel log when connecting the clie, but you don't have to read the following output now, I'll come back to it a little later and point you at the strange lines.=20 With usb-uhci I get in /var/log/messages: -- Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-2, assigned address 5 Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc. Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: Product: Palm Handheld Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter detected Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x: Number of ports: 2 Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x: port 1, is for Generic use and is bound to ttyUSB0 Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x: port 2, is for HotSync use and is bound to ttyUSB1 Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 1137 Nov 25 19:06:43 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB0 (or usb/tts/0 for devfs) Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB1 (or usb/tts/1 for devfs) Nov 25 19:06:54 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 838 Nov 25 19:06:57 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout Nov 25 19:06:58 carryme kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 00:07.2-2 address 5 Nov 25 19:06:58 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 Nov 25 19:06:58 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1 -- Starting pilot-xfer at any time during the appearance of these messages, it results in saying: -- [1852] moi@carryme:~ $ pilot-xfer -p /dev/ttyUSB1 -l Listening to port: /dev/ttyUSB1 Please press the HotSync button now...=20 -- So, no connection possible 99% of my tries. in 01% of my tries it seems I have the right timing in my fingers to fire up pilot-xfer in the right moment. STRANGE. THIS IS MY PROBLEM. Okay, next I try the alternative uhci module. First, I unload visor, usbserial and then usb-uhci in that order. Second, I modprobe uhci, usbserial, visor back into kernel again in that order. Finally, I press hotsync on the clie and get the following in var/log/messages: -- -- MARK -- Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-2, assigned address 4 Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc. Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: Product: Palm Handheld Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter detected Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x: Number of ports: 2 Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x: port 1, is for Generic use and is bound to ttyUSB0 Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x: port 2, is for HotSync use and is bound to ttyUSB1 Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB0 (or usb/tts/0 for devfs) Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB1 (or usb/tts/1 for devfs) Nov 25 19:21:30 carryme kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 00:07.2-2 address 4 Nov 25 19:21:30 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 Nov 25 19:21:30 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1 -- With the uhci module, the pilot-xfer listing command runs no matter how long I wait before executing it after those lines saying "... attached to ttyUSB1..." appear in the log.=20 As mentioned above, here we return to the usb-uhci output. What makes me wonder are three additional lines found in /var/log/messages when using usb-uhci, they are: -- Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 1137 Nov 25 19:06:43 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout -- These lines appear twice in that log (see above for the entire log in the usb-uhci case), just after visor.c has bound to USB1 and just after usbserial.c has bound to USB1.=20 So, here I ask the USB-experts out there: What does that timeout message mean? Could it be a problem with a lousy USB-Chipset? lspci gives: -- 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) -- Which belongs to the 440ZX in this HP Omnibook XE3 (PIIIM-700): -- 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge (rev 03) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX AGP bridge (rev 03) -- I found many posts via google dealing with those timeout messages, but nowhere was an answer that would lead to anything. Hope here someone has some tips what to try next. Regards=20 Lars --=20 LarsWeissflog L@rs-W dot DE From steveo@member.fsf.org Tue Nov 25 23:56:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.140]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 55E0D181DC for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:56:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from adsl-66-125-90-94.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net (HELO localhost) (steander@pacbell.net@66.125.90.94 with plain) by smtp1.bt.mail.vip.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Nov 2003 04:56:53 -0000 Subject: Wireless network sync setup help - Sony Clie UX-50 From: "Steven L. Anderson" To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Fugacious Thoughts Message-Id: <1069779670.6165.3.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:01:10 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Reply-To: steveo@member.fsf.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I'd like to be able to use Gnome Pilot to wirelessly (via 802.11) sync my Sony Clie UX-50 with Evolution. I've tried to use the configuration app (gpilotd-control-applet) both from the command line and from within Evolution (Tools|Pilot Settings). It popped up the first use screen so I can set up the configuration options. I clicked forward, which took me to the cradle settings. Here's where I got into trouble. Although I could select Network, I could not figure out how to configure it. Since I want to connect via the network, there is no port. But if I delete the port, I can't click forward. If I leave any devices set in the Port field, I cannot later sync the PDA to get past the initial sync. I would assume, once I click network, that I should be able to set IP, host, etc. information. I'm using Evolution 1.4.5 on Gentoo and gpilotd-control-applet 2.0.10 with a 2.4.20 kernel. I'm able to communicate with the PDA using pilot-xfer (pilot-xfer -p net:192.168.1.102 -l), so I know it's possible with my setup. Any ideas? I have no problem doing hand configuration, if needed, but I don't know where to start. Thanks, Steve -- Steve Anderson steveo@member.fsf.org From emiddell@gmx.net Wed Nov 26 04:27:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from catbert.middell.net (pD9E791F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.231.145.242]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F6818384 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 04:27:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from dilbert.middell.net (dilbert.middell.net [192.168.0.3]) by catbert.middell.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3873AC1C for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:27:44 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Wireless network sync setup help - Sony Clie UX-50 From: Eike Middell To: gnome-pilot-list In-Reply-To: <1069779670.6165.3.camel@localhost> References: <1069779670.6165.3.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1069838836.5196.7.camel@dilbert.middell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:27:16 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Steve, I had the same problem some time (september) ago when I tried to sync my Palm Tungsten T via Bluetooth. pilor-x-fer worked, gpilotd didn't. In this mailing list they told me then that this wouldn't work at the moment with gpilotd, so it seems that the gui of gpilotd presents options that aren't implemented yet. If you can live without evolution try jpilot. This one accepts net:any as device. And of course: since it has been quite a while this information doesn't have to be still correct. Greetings, Eike On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 18:01, Steven L. Anderson wrote: > I'd like to be able to use Gnome Pilot to wirelessly (via 802.11) sync > my Sony Clie UX-50 with Evolution. > > I've tried to use the configuration app (gpilotd-control-applet) both > from the command line and from within Evolution (Tools|Pilot Settings). > It popped up the first use screen so I can set up the configuration > options. > > I clicked forward, which took me to the cradle settings. Here's where I > got into trouble. Although I could select Network, I could not figure > out how to configure it. Since I want to connect via the network, there > is no port. But if I delete the port, I can't click forward. If I > leave any devices set in the Port field, I cannot later sync the PDA to > get past the initial sync. I would assume, once I click network, that I > should be able to set IP, host, etc. information. > > I'm using Evolution 1.4.5 on Gentoo and gpilotd-control-applet 2.0.10 > with a 2.4.20 kernel. > > I'm able to communicate with the PDA using pilot-xfer (pilot-xfer -p > net:192.168.1.102 -l), so I know it's possible with my setup. > > Any ideas? I have no problem doing hand configuration, if needed, but I > don't know where to start. > > Thanks, > > Steve From L@rs-w.de Wed Nov 26 06:20:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9F818279 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:20:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AOxiQ-0007QP-Lj; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:20:14 +0100 Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE ([130.149.4.15]) by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:20:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailbox.tu-berlin.de ([130.149.4.18]) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AOxiQ-0007Pw-Km; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:20:14 +0100 Received: from pd951569c.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.81.86.156] helo=carryme.shs) by mailbox.tu-berlin.de with asmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AOxiP-00016O-8G; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:20:13 +0100 Subject: Re: Clie / USB Timing Problem From: Lars Weissflog To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1069788365.598.0.camel@carryme.shs> References: <1069788365.598.0.camel@carryme.shs> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-Id: <1069845631.606.26.camel@carryme.shs> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:20:31 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Sophos MailMonitor on mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:20:14 +0100 Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Additional Info:=20 I just noticed there are two more line in dmesg: with usb-uhci.o loaded: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout visor.c: visor_startup - error getting first unknown palm command usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout visor.c: visor_startup - error getting second unknown palm command with alternative uhci.o loaded: visor.c: visor_startup - error getting first unknown palm command visor.c: visor_startup - error getting second unknown palm command So, the visor.c lines are suspicious but do not depend on the usb-uhci / uhci difference. Any hints? Regs Lars On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 20:26, Lars Weissflog wrote: > Hi all,=20 >=20 > before staring with the problem: This is long. Sorry, but I tried to > include as much information as possible, i.e. all I have for now. It's > about USB timing problems, dealing with the relevant modules and more > related to the usb-subsystem than to pilot-link or gnome-pilot, but I > assume those of you who developed the pilot-link stuff and all that know > a lot about the USB-stuff as well and might derive from my explanations > below that it is _not_ a problem of pilot-link as others on USB-Related > lists might propose. So here I go: >=20 > Some of you might remember that I repeatedly reported about "timing > issues" when trying to sync my Sony Clie SJ30 with evolution. Well, this > is not evolution or gnome-pilot specific as I learned today. Here is > what I have so far: >=20 > 1) pilot-link's version numbers give me headache, but that's not the > core problem, Anyway: > -- > [1850] moi@carryme:~ $ pilot-xfer --version > .--. > | (c) Copyright 1996-2003, pilot-link team | > | Join the pilot-link lists to help out. | > `--' > This is pilot-xfer, from pilot-link version 0.11.7 >=20 > Build target..: i686-pc-linux-gnu > Build date....: Feb 9 2003 17:26:03 >=20 > pilot-link 0.11.7 is covered under the GPL/LGPL > See the file COPYING under docs for more info. >=20 > Please use -h for more detailed options. > -- > This says it is version 0.11.7. This is the first thing I don't > understand. The manpage says in its last line: >=20 > -- > (c) FSF 1996-2003 pilot-link - 0.11.8 pilot-xfer(1) > Manual page pilot-xfer(1) line 222/252 (END) > -- > So according to this it should be 0.11.8. >=20 > I installed it from Jamie's packages together with gnome-pilot, > evolution and so on: > -- > [1850] moi@carryme:~ $ apt-cache policy pilot-link > pilot-link: > Installed: 0.11.8-4jds1 > Candidate: 0.11.8-4jds1 > Version Table: > *** 0.11.8-4jds1 0 > 500 http://ftp.acc.umu.se gnome2.2/ Packages > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > 0.9.5.0-8 0 > 500 http://ftp.de.debian.org stable/main Packages > -- >=20 > Okay, now you'll point me at the possibility that there are manually > installed versions on my system. NO!: > -- > [1849][root@carryme:/]$ updatedb > [1850][root@carryme:/]$ locate pilot-xfer > /usr/bin/pilot-xfer > /usr/share/man/man1/pilot-xfer.1.gz > [1850][root@carryme:/]$ >=20 > -- > So, there is definitely only _one_ pilot-xfer binary on my box, and that > one claims to be 0.11.7 though Jamie's packages claim to be 0.11.8. > STRANGE. But that is not the timing problem I was talking about. See > below. >=20 > 2) Kernel: 2.4.20, build from stock kernel.org sources, several times, > working flawlessly, having USB support as modules: > -- > [1852][root@carryme:/]$ lsmod > Module Size Used by Not tainted > [...unrelated...] > visor 8556 0=20 > usbserial 16508 0 [visor] > keybdev 1728 0 (unused) > mousedev 3768 1=20 > hid 18564 0 (unused) > input 3296 0 [keybdev mousedev hid] > usb-uhci 21196 0 (unused) > usbcore 61696 1 [visor usbserial hid usb-uhci] > [...unrelated...] > [1856][root@carryme:/]$=20 > -- >=20 > Okay, this is all stuff that more or less uses the USB subsystem, and > here the problems start: I'm using usb-uhci since (a) someone once > mentioned it is the standard driver and should be preferred against uhci > (JE-alternative) and (b) vmware requires that one and won't work with > the latter.=20 > Now, when using usb-uhci I _sometimes_ can connect to my clie (be it in > gnome-pilot running gpilotd or, after killing gpilotd, using > pilot-xfer), apparently when I hit hotsync on the clie and then, a > second or something later start pilot-xfer on the laptop. To make this > clear: I _do_ know and understand that I have to hit hotsync first and > afterwards start pilot-xfer. OK!?=20 > Using the alternative uhci module, I get connected _every_ _single_ > _time_, no matter how long I wait between pressing hotsync and executing > pilot-xfer. > I have recently installed woody on my big machine and that one has a > SIS-Chipset, using the usb-ohci module. On that machine I get connected > every single time, too. >=20 > So, apparently the problem I was chasing from time to time over the last > year or so arises from the usb-uhci code. There is something I noticed > in the kernel log when connecting the clie, but you don't have to read > the following output now, I'll come back to it a little later and point > you at the strange lines.=20 > With usb-uhci I get in /var/log/messages: > -- > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-2, > assigned address 5 > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc. > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: Product: Palm Handheld > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter detected > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / > Cli=E9 4.x: Number of ports: 2 > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / > Cli=E9 4.x: port 1, is for Generic use and is bound to ttyUSB0 > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / > Cli=E9 4.x: port 2, is for HotSync use and is bound to ttyUSB1 > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# > 1137 > Nov 25 19:06:43 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB0 (or usb/tts/0 for devfs) > Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB1 (or usb/tts/1 for devfs) > Nov 25 19:06:54 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# > 838 > Nov 25 19:06:57 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > Nov 25 19:06:58 carryme kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device > 00:07.2-2 address 5 > Nov 25 19:06:58 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 > Nov 25 19:06:58 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1 >=20 > -- > Starting pilot-xfer at any time during the appearance of these messages, > it results in saying: >=20 > -- > [1852] moi@carryme:~ $ pilot-xfer -p /dev/ttyUSB1 -l >=20 > Listening to port: /dev/ttyUSB1 >=20 > Please press the HotSync button now...=20 > -- > So, no connection possible 99% of my tries. in 01% of my tries it seems > I have the right timing in my fingers to fire up pilot-xfer in the right > moment. STRANGE. THIS IS MY PROBLEM. >=20 > Okay, next I try the alternative uhci module. First, I unload visor, > usbserial and then usb-uhci in that order. Second, I modprobe uhci, > usbserial, visor back into kernel again in that order. Finally, I press > hotsync on the clie and get the following in var/log/messages: >=20 > -- > -- MARK -- > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-2, > assigned address 4 > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc. > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: Product: Palm Handheld > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter detected > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / > Cli=E9 4.x: Number of ports: 2 > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / > Cli=E9 4.x: port 1, is for Generic use and is bound to ttyUSB0 > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / > Cli=E9 4.x: port 2, is for HotSync use and is bound to ttyUSB1 > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB0 (or usb/tts/0 for devfs) > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB1 (or usb/tts/1 for devfs) > Nov 25 19:21:30 carryme kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device > 00:07.2-2 address 4 > Nov 25 19:21:30 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 > Nov 25 19:21:30 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1 > -- >=20 > With the uhci module, the pilot-xfer listing command runs no matter how > long I wait before executing it after those lines saying "... attached > to ttyUSB1..." appear in the log.=20 > As mentioned above, here we return to the usb-uhci output. What makes me > wonder are three additional lines found in /var/log/messages when using > usb-uhci, they are: >=20 > -- > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# > 1137 > Nov 25 19:06:43 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > -- >=20 > These lines appear twice in that log (see above for the entire log in > the usb-uhci case), just after visor.c has bound to USB1 and just after > usbserial.c has bound to USB1.=20 >=20 > So, here I ask the USB-experts out there: What does that timeout message > mean? Could it be a problem with a lousy USB-Chipset? lspci gives: > -- > 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) > -- > Which belongs to the 440ZX in this HP Omnibook XE3 (PIIIM-700): >=20 > -- > 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge (rev > 03) > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX AGP bridge (rev > 03) > -- >=20 > I found many posts via google dealing with those timeout messages, but > nowhere was an answer that would lead to anything. Hope here someone has > some tips what to try next. >=20 > Regards=20 > Lars --=20 LarsWeissflog L@rs-W dot DE From stefan@hegner-online.de Fri Nov 28 07:13:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from sally.dts-online.net (sally.dts-online.net [212.62.68.35]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BF01840F for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:13:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from hegi.bogus.heginet.local (213-182-115-168.teleos-web.de [213.182.115.168]) by sally.dts-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C693A3AFA27 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:13:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hegi.bogus.heginet.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD86CCD4 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:13:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from hegi.bogus.heginet.local ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hegi [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01532-02 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:13:37 +0100 (CET) Received: by hegi.bogus.heginet.local (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CBEA8CE10; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:13:35 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Clie / USB Timing Problem From: Stefan Ulrich Hegner To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1069845631.606.26.camel@carryme.shs> References: <1069788365.598.0.camel@carryme.shs> <1069845631.606.26.camel@carryme.shs> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-NCmiT/ZshBWDiqeq3EY3" Message-Id: <1070021614.3493.8.camel@hegi.bogus.heginet.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:13:35 +0100 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bogus.heginet.local Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-NCmiT/ZshBWDiqeq3EY3 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Lars, what you describe is exactly what I have been (and sill am) struggeling with. In short: Clie-SJ30; i440BX Chipset; usb-uhci and plain vanilla-kernel (2.4.20; kernel.org) The following I got myself: Am Mit, den 26.11.2003 schrieb Lars Weissflog um 12:20: > usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > visor.c: visor_startup - error getting first unknown palm command > usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > visor.c: visor_startup - error getting second unknown palm command > > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# > > 1137 > > Nov 25 19:06:43 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > > Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > > So, no connection possible 99% of my tries. in 01% of my tries it seems > > I have the right timing in my fingers to fire up pilot-xfer in the righ= t > > moment. STRANGE. THIS IS MY PROBLEM. Probably I wasn't persistent enough. I only got your 99% - no connection. alternative uhci module wouldn't work on my system. My current status: I downloaded 2.4.22 and patched it to 2.4.23rc2. There is still the interrupt message ... but the syncing works. My gut feeling: This might possibly also be a sony problem, resulting from a not properly implemented serial protocol or whatever. I get this idea, because people with similar setup but different PDAs don't seem to have this trouble. Maybe it's worth trying to contact sony and get an opinion from them. HTH Stefan. --=20 / Stefan Ulrich Hegner aka "Hegi" - Loehne/ Westfalen - Germany \ | stefan@hegner-online.de, my Cyberhome http://www.hegner-web.de| \ GPG-Fprint D9DB 51BD 2DA6 9B3A 41CB 0287 05A1 8D11 38BA CE91 / --=-NCmiT/ZshBWDiqeq3EY3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/xzvuBaGNETi6zpERApU3AJ9ir+j4aNaJ1q5zGESgD+H025AO3wCfZWYl UMSAymIfuOIyM/5HWGJIwtM= =Lihi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-NCmiT/ZshBWDiqeq3EY3-- From L@rs-w.de Sun Nov 30 17:19:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5527D183ED for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:19:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-2) for id 1AQZuv-0006VB-L5; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:19:49 +0100 Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE ([130.149.4.15]) by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:19:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailbox.tu-berlin.de ([130.149.4.18]) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-2) for id 1AQZuv-0006Uj-K6; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:19:49 +0100 Received: from pd9e31bb9.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.227.27.185] helo=carryme.shs) by mailbox.tu-berlin.de with asmtp (exim-4.24-2) for id 1AQZuu-0007ma-K2; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:19:48 +0100 Subject: Re: Clie / USB Timing Problem From: Lars Weissflog To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1070021614.3493.8.camel@hegi.bogus.heginet.local> References: <1069788365.598.0.camel@carryme.shs> <1069845631.606.26.camel@carryme.shs> <1070021614.3493.8.camel@hegi.bogus.heginet.local> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1070230805.617.13.camel@carryme.shs> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:20:06 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Sophos MailMonitor on mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:19:49 +0100 Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 13:13, Stefan Ulrich Hegner wrote: > what you describe is exactly what I have been (and sill am) struggeling > with. That is good news in some sort of way... at least I'm not alone ;-) > Probably I wasn't persistent enough. I only got your 99% - no > connection. > If you get told "that has to work, it works for everyone!" you keep tryin' ;-) > alternative uhci module wouldn't work on my system. > Uh? What does that mean? Doesn't load at all? Doesn't connect? I can't remember having any problems with the alternative module on any system so far, at least not in the "basic" sense (Insmod, compilation etc.) > My current status: I downloaded 2.4.22 and patched it to 2.4.23rc2. > There is still the interrupt message ... but the syncing works. > I'll give .23 a try next weekend. Or maybe its time for 2.6 > My gut feeling: > This might possibly also be a sony problem, resulting from a not > properly implemented serial protocol or whatever. > Yepp, that's what came to my minds before. Wouldn't be the first time Sony produces crap. > I get this idea, because people with similar setup but different PDAs > don't seem to have this trouble. > Unfortunately, I've note met anyone with an USB device by now to test another one. > Maybe it's worth trying to contact sony and get an opinion from them. > I would be very surprised if you would get _any_ answer at all. And if, it certainly would be: We regret to inform you that Sony Inc. does not support linux in any way - And hey, your SJ30 is rather old, how about an upgrade? For only 499 Bucks we could ship you a brand new XJ-S-500-Super (Win32only, of course). But if you'd like to give it a try, tell them they may contact me for details. Good luck. On the other hand: If you say .23rc2 is working, maybe there has been something fixed in the meantime that has never been brought into relation with our problem. And that would blame the fault on the linux side. Or even better: maybe once again the linux coders have found nice little bucks in commercial products and produced non-commercial solutions to ship around them, probably being standard-conform at the same time ;-) I'll see.... Lars > HTH > > Stefan. > > -- LarsWeissflog L@rs-W dot DE From treework@halenet.com.au Sun Nov 16 21:48:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from cath.halenet.com.au (cath.halenet.com.au [203.55.33.243]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D1718187 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:48:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cath.halenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC62D135F57; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:22:40 +1000 (EST) Received: from cath.halenet.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cath.halenet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 87734-07; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:22:40 +1000 (EST) Received: from modem-132-st.halenet.com.au (modem-132-st.halenet.com.au [203.55.33.132]) by cath.halenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27516136053; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:22:28 +1000 (EST) Subject: memo_file From: Jonathan Rihan To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Cc: users@lists.ximian.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-sZFpKQoY7Cv/9G5F7F9q" Message-Id: <1069020512.1993.16.camel@Treeworks> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:48:11 +0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at halenet.com.au Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-sZFpKQoY7Cv/9G5F7F9q Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit G'day, Can anyone tell me what I have to do to get my Memos to sync. Gnome pilot is working OK with evolution for address, to do and date book, but the memo_file in the home directory is empty, despite several syncs and a whole swag of memos on my palm M515. Also what do I use to install new programs to the palm, something in pilot-link probably but what is the command that i need to use. Please excuse gross ignorance. I am a newbie cast adrift in a big sea alone. Jonathan Rihan --=-sZFpKQoY7Cv/9G5F7F9q Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit G'day,

Can anyone tell me what I have to do to get my Memos to sync.
Gnome pilot is working OK with evolution for address, to do and date book, but the memo_file in the home directory is empty, despite several syncs and a whole swag of memos on my palm M515.

Also what do I use to install new programs to the palm, something in pilot-link probably but what is the command that i need to use.

Please excuse gross ignorance. I am a newbie cast adrift in a big sea alone.

Jonathan Rihan
--=-sZFpKQoY7Cv/9G5F7F9q-- From dr_yunus@internode.on.net Mon Nov 17 04:21:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from internode.on.net (pop.internode.on.net [203.16.214.197]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E04818392 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 04:21:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from internode.on.net (unverified [203.16.214.197]) by internode.on.net (SurgeMail 1.5f) with ESMTP id 7596309 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:50:58 +1030 (CDT) From: "dr_yunus@internode.on.net" To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Subject: initial sync chrash with debian unstable and gnome-pilot X-Mailer: Internode Webmail v3.1a (http://www.internode.on.net/) X-Originating-IP: 150.101.189.100 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:50:58 +1050 Message-id: <3fb892fa.e7.958f.1140105790@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: dr_yunus Domain internode.on.net X-Smite-Info: SmiteCRC Oct 9 2003 X-Smite-CRC: A#1jBzlLa#1EA5lNO#1iTa67d#1LcpQk4$1ox80cr#6S361x#gCpbS5$UUQ886$144II5T Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Reply-To: dr_yunus@internode.on.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi I am usiing debian unstable with kernel 2.4.22. gnome- pilot 2.0.10-2 pilot-link .11.8-7 typing gpilotd gives me the following gpilotd-Message: gnome-pilot 2.0.10 starting... gpilotd-Message: compiled for pilot-link version 0.11.8 gpilotd-Message: compiled with [VFS] [USB] [IrDA] [Network] (gpilotd:2522): gpilotd-WARNING **: Number of pilots is configured to 0 gpilotd-Message: Activating CORBA server gpilotd-Message: bonobo_activation_active_server_register = 0 gpilotd-Message: Watching Cradle (/dev/pilot) I can sync with jpilot and kpilot when I enter gpilotd-control-applet Iget the following ** Message: No pilot userid/username information located ** Message: Unable to load pilot id/username, assuming unset ** Message: No pilot cradle information located ** Message: Unable to load pilot cradle info, assuming unset gpilotd-Message: Activating object OAFIID:GNOME_Pilot_Daemon ** Message: No pilot userid/username information located ** Message: Unable to load pilot id/username, assuming unset ** Message: No pilot cradle information located ** Message: Unable to load pilot cradle info, assuming unset ** Message: No pilot userid/username information located ** Message: Unable to load pilot id/username, assuming unset ** Message: No pilot cradle information located ** Message: Unable to load pilot cradle info, assuming unset Then I pick /dev/pilot usb etc and next and when I put the palm in the cradle and sync for the first time I get an error message saying gpilotd has crashed and the following message in console when I close every thing Any help would be appreciated I have tried varying speeds and /dev/ttyUSB1 (i have a palm m515) although either should work because they do with jpilot and kpilot (gpilotd-control-applet:2558): gpilotd-WARNING **: gnome-pilot-client.gob:896: C aught exception: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0 (gpilotd-control-applet:2558): gpilotd-WARNING **: gnome-pilot-client.gob:484: C From matt@corvil.com Mon Nov 17 05:45:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from corvil.com (gate.corvil.net [213.94.219.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC4D181F4 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:45:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from sirocco.local.corvil.com (sirocco.local.corvil.com [172.18.1.149]) by corvil.com (8.12.9/8.12.5) with ESMTP id hAHAjtd8091671 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:45:55 GMT (envelope-from matt@corvil.com) Received: from sirocco.local.corvil.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by sirocco.local.corvil.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAHAjt39031653 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:45:55 GMT Received: from sirocco.local.corvil.com (matt@localhost) by sirocco.local.corvil.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id hAHAjt0b031649 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:45:55 GMT Message-Id: <200311171045.hAHAjt0b031649@sirocco.local.corvil.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4 To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: memo_file In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:48:11 GMT." <1069020512.1993.16.camel@Treeworks> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:45:54 +0000 From: Matt Davey Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Can anyone tell me what I have to do to get my Memos to sync. Jonathan, There are patches available for the memo_file bug. See message to this list: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-pilot-list/2003-August/msg00093.html and http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114361 As they have still not been incorporated into any official releases (or the source repository), you'll have to check out the sources from CVS (http://cvs.gnome.org/lxr/source/gnome-pilot/), apply the patches and recompile gnome-pilot from the sources. You say you're a newbie, so you mightn't feel like doing all that. If you're running redhat I have a source RPM available which should do the job for you (packaged against redhat 9). Email me if you want the rpm. Matt p.s.: Installing files: pilot-xfer -i file.prc From L@rs-w.de Fri Nov 21 05:43:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA491823C for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:43:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AN8lS-0001vX-KJ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:43:50 +0100 Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE ([130.149.4.15]) by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:43:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailbox.tu-berlin.de ([130.149.4.18]) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AN8lR-0001uy-MN; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:43:49 +0100 Received: from pd9e310eb.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.227.16.235] helo=carryme.shs) by mailbox.tu-berlin.de with asmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AN8lR-0008UM-CM; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:43:49 +0100 Subject: Re: memo_file From: Lars Weissflog To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200311171045.hAHAjt0b031649@sirocco.local.corvil.com> References: <200311171045.hAHAjt0b031649@sirocco.local.corvil.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1069411446.2134.2.camel@carryme.shs> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:44:07 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Sophos MailMonitor on mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:43:50 +0100 Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 11:45, Matt Davey wrote: > > Can anyone tell me what I have to do to get my Memos to sync. > > Jonathan, > You say you're a newbie, so you mightn't feel like doing all that. If > you're running redhat I have a source RPM available which should do the > job for you (packaged against redhat 9). > > Email me if you want the rpm. > If Jonathan is running debian/woody, there are fine backport packages out there which seem to have the fixes included, sources.list should include: deb http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody gnome2.2/ deb-src http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody gnome2.2/ giving gnome-pilot: Installed: 2.0.10-0jds4 as the available version. HTH Lars > Matt > p.s.: Installing files: > pilot-xfer -i file.prc > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-pilot-list mailing list > gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-pilot-list -- LarsWeissflog L@rs-W dot DE From dlux@dl.dlux.hu Sun Nov 23 13:35:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from sakori.sakori.hu (unknown [193.202.89.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3475F1814F for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:35:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=dl.dlux.hu ident=dlux) by sakori.sakori.hu with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA:16) (Exim 4.24 and XAMS @VERSION@) id 1ANz5O-0002yA-QS; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:35:55 +0100 Received: from dlux by dl.dlux.hu with local (Exim 4.24) id 1ANt7r-0001iw-5c; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:14:03 +0100 Subject: Re: Synchronizing Maildir From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bal=E1zs_Szab=F3?= To: Gnome-Pilot list Cc: ed@catmur.co.uk In-Reply-To: <1067279954.17568.13.camel@capella.catmur.co.uk> References: <1066718972.3142.111.camel@dl.dlux.hu> <1067244666.17517.29.camel@dl.dlux.hu> <1067279954.17568.13.camel@capella.catmur.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1069589642.4987.14.camel@dl.dlux.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:14:03 +0100 Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear Ed, Thanks for your answer. I applied it, and now it can copy the mails from the maildir to pilot. This patch is great! I currently has only two problem with this (these are the conduit's missing features): - It does not delete the mail from the desktop if I delete from the pilot (synchronization feature missing). - MIME emails are handled badly: it does not decode the MIME messages. I don't really know if it is the conduit-bug or the bug in the email application. I will try to use mhonarc to convert my mails to HTML and plucker to convert them to Palm-readable format until the listed features are not available. Regards, dLux=20 On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 19:39, ed@catmur.co.uk wrote: > You need my patch. >=20 > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-pilot-list/2003-January/msg00053.htm= l >=20 > It applies to sources with a fuzz of 2 (whitespace - easy to fix) >=20 > If you can't compile it yourself, I advise you file a bug and lobby the > devs to include Maildir support. >=20 > Hope this helps >=20 > Ed Catmur >=20 >=20 > On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 08:51, Bal=E1zs Szab=F3 wrote: > > ? > >=20 > > On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 08:49, Bal=E1zs Szab=F3 wrote:=20 > > > Hello, > > >=20 > > > Is it possible to synchronize one folder on my Evolution's maildir > > > account with maildb.pdb on my Treo 180? > > >=20 > > > If yes, then how I have to set up the conduit? > > >=20 > > > Thanks for your answer in advance, > > >=20 > > > Bal=E1zs Szab=F3 (dLux) > > dlux@dlux.hu > > Bal=E1zs Szab=F3 (dLux) > > dlux@dlux.hu Bal=E1zs Szab=F3 (dLux) dlux@dlux.hu From L@rs-w.de Tue Nov 25 14:25:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0774C180E1 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:25:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AOiom-00059s-Jq; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:25:48 +0100 Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE ([130.149.4.15]) by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:25:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailbox.tu-berlin.de ([130.149.4.18]) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AOiol-00059O-M0; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:25:47 +0100 Received: from p5081fa87.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.129.250.135] helo=carryme.shs) by mailbox.tu-berlin.de with asmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AOiok-0008Ie-RJ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:25:47 +0100 Subject: Clie / USB Timing Problem From: Lars Weissflog To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-Id: <1069788365.598.0.camel@carryme.shs> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:26:05 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Sophos MailMonitor on mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:25:47 +0100 Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all,=20 before staring with the problem: This is long. Sorry, but I tried to include as much information as possible, i.e. all I have for now. It's about USB timing problems, dealing with the relevant modules and more related to the usb-subsystem than to pilot-link or gnome-pilot, but I assume those of you who developed the pilot-link stuff and all that know a lot about the USB-stuff as well and might derive from my explanations below that it is _not_ a problem of pilot-link as others on USB-Related lists might propose. So here I go: Some of you might remember that I repeatedly reported about "timing issues" when trying to sync my Sony Clie SJ30 with evolution. Well, this is not evolution or gnome-pilot specific as I learned today. Here is what I have so far: 1) pilot-link's version numbers give me headache, but that's not the core problem, Anyway: -- [1850] moi@carryme:~ $ pilot-xfer --version .--. | (c) Copyright 1996-2003, pilot-link team | | Join the pilot-link lists to help out. | `--' This is pilot-xfer, from pilot-link version 0.11.7 Build target..: i686-pc-linux-gnu Build date....: Feb 9 2003 17:26:03 pilot-link 0.11.7 is covered under the GPL/LGPL See the file COPYING under docs for more info. Please use -h for more detailed options. -- This says it is version 0.11.7. This is the first thing I don't understand. The manpage says in its last line: -- (c) FSF 1996-2003 pilot-link - 0.11.8 pilot-xfer(1) Manual page pilot-xfer(1) line 222/252 (END) -- So according to this it should be 0.11.8. I installed it from Jamie's packages together with gnome-pilot, evolution and so on: -- [1850] moi@carryme:~ $ apt-cache policy pilot-link pilot-link: Installed: 0.11.8-4jds1 Candidate: 0.11.8-4jds1 Version Table: *** 0.11.8-4jds1 0 500 http://ftp.acc.umu.se gnome2.2/ Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 0.9.5.0-8 0 500 http://ftp.de.debian.org stable/main Packages -- Okay, now you'll point me at the possibility that there are manually installed versions on my system. NO!: -- [1849][root@carryme:/]$ updatedb [1850][root@carryme:/]$ locate pilot-xfer /usr/bin/pilot-xfer /usr/share/man/man1/pilot-xfer.1.gz [1850][root@carryme:/]$ -- So, there is definitely only _one_ pilot-xfer binary on my box, and that one claims to be 0.11.7 though Jamie's packages claim to be 0.11.8. STRANGE. But that is not the timing problem I was talking about. See below. 2) Kernel: 2.4.20, build from stock kernel.org sources, several times, working flawlessly, having USB support as modules: -- [1852][root@carryme:/]$ lsmod Module Size Used by Not tainted [...unrelated...] visor 8556 0=20 usbserial 16508 0 [visor] keybdev 1728 0 (unused) mousedev 3768 1=20 hid 18564 0 (unused) input 3296 0 [keybdev mousedev hid] usb-uhci 21196 0 (unused) usbcore 61696 1 [visor usbserial hid usb-uhci] [...unrelated...] [1856][root@carryme:/]$=20 -- Okay, this is all stuff that more or less uses the USB subsystem, and here the problems start: I'm using usb-uhci since (a) someone once mentioned it is the standard driver and should be preferred against uhci (JE-alternative) and (b) vmware requires that one and won't work with the latter.=20 Now, when using usb-uhci I _sometimes_ can connect to my clie (be it in gnome-pilot running gpilotd or, after killing gpilotd, using pilot-xfer), apparently when I hit hotsync on the clie and then, a second or something later start pilot-xfer on the laptop. To make this clear: I _do_ know and understand that I have to hit hotsync first and afterwards start pilot-xfer. OK!?=20 Using the alternative uhci module, I get connected _every_ _single_ _time_, no matter how long I wait between pressing hotsync and executing pilot-xfer. I have recently installed woody on my big machine and that one has a SIS-Chipset, using the usb-ohci module. On that machine I get connected every single time, too. So, apparently the problem I was chasing from time to time over the last year or so arises from the usb-uhci code. There is something I noticed in the kernel log when connecting the clie, but you don't have to read the following output now, I'll come back to it a little later and point you at the strange lines.=20 With usb-uhci I get in /var/log/messages: -- Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-2, assigned address 5 Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc. Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: Product: Palm Handheld Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter detected Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x: Number of ports: 2 Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x: port 1, is for Generic use and is bound to ttyUSB0 Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x: port 2, is for HotSync use and is bound to ttyUSB1 Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 1137 Nov 25 19:06:43 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB0 (or usb/tts/0 for devfs) Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB1 (or usb/tts/1 for devfs) Nov 25 19:06:54 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 838 Nov 25 19:06:57 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout Nov 25 19:06:58 carryme kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 00:07.2-2 address 5 Nov 25 19:06:58 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 Nov 25 19:06:58 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1 -- Starting pilot-xfer at any time during the appearance of these messages, it results in saying: -- [1852] moi@carryme:~ $ pilot-xfer -p /dev/ttyUSB1 -l Listening to port: /dev/ttyUSB1 Please press the HotSync button now...=20 -- So, no connection possible 99% of my tries. in 01% of my tries it seems I have the right timing in my fingers to fire up pilot-xfer in the right moment. STRANGE. THIS IS MY PROBLEM. Okay, next I try the alternative uhci module. First, I unload visor, usbserial and then usb-uhci in that order. Second, I modprobe uhci, usbserial, visor back into kernel again in that order. Finally, I press hotsync on the clie and get the following in var/log/messages: -- -- MARK -- Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-2, assigned address 4 Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc. Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: Product: Palm Handheld Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter detected Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x: Number of ports: 2 Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x: port 1, is for Generic use and is bound to ttyUSB0 Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x: port 2, is for HotSync use and is bound to ttyUSB1 Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB0 (or usb/tts/0 for devfs) Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB1 (or usb/tts/1 for devfs) Nov 25 19:21:30 carryme kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 00:07.2-2 address 4 Nov 25 19:21:30 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 Nov 25 19:21:30 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1 -- With the uhci module, the pilot-xfer listing command runs no matter how long I wait before executing it after those lines saying "... attached to ttyUSB1..." appear in the log.=20 As mentioned above, here we return to the usb-uhci output. What makes me wonder are three additional lines found in /var/log/messages when using usb-uhci, they are: -- Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 1137 Nov 25 19:06:43 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout -- These lines appear twice in that log (see above for the entire log in the usb-uhci case), just after visor.c has bound to USB1 and just after usbserial.c has bound to USB1.=20 So, here I ask the USB-experts out there: What does that timeout message mean? Could it be a problem with a lousy USB-Chipset? lspci gives: -- 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) -- Which belongs to the 440ZX in this HP Omnibook XE3 (PIIIM-700): -- 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge (rev 03) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX AGP bridge (rev 03) -- I found many posts via google dealing with those timeout messages, but nowhere was an answer that would lead to anything. Hope here someone has some tips what to try next. Regards=20 Lars --=20 LarsWeissflog L@rs-W dot DE From steveo@member.fsf.org Tue Nov 25 23:56:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.140]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 55E0D181DC for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:56:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from adsl-66-125-90-94.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net (HELO localhost) (steander@pacbell.net@66.125.90.94 with plain) by smtp1.bt.mail.vip.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Nov 2003 04:56:53 -0000 Subject: Wireless network sync setup help - Sony Clie UX-50 From: "Steven L. Anderson" To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Fugacious Thoughts Message-Id: <1069779670.6165.3.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:01:10 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Reply-To: steveo@member.fsf.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I'd like to be able to use Gnome Pilot to wirelessly (via 802.11) sync my Sony Clie UX-50 with Evolution. I've tried to use the configuration app (gpilotd-control-applet) both from the command line and from within Evolution (Tools|Pilot Settings). It popped up the first use screen so I can set up the configuration options. I clicked forward, which took me to the cradle settings. Here's where I got into trouble. Although I could select Network, I could not figure out how to configure it. Since I want to connect via the network, there is no port. But if I delete the port, I can't click forward. If I leave any devices set in the Port field, I cannot later sync the PDA to get past the initial sync. I would assume, once I click network, that I should be able to set IP, host, etc. information. I'm using Evolution 1.4.5 on Gentoo and gpilotd-control-applet 2.0.10 with a 2.4.20 kernel. I'm able to communicate with the PDA using pilot-xfer (pilot-xfer -p net:192.168.1.102 -l), so I know it's possible with my setup. Any ideas? I have no problem doing hand configuration, if needed, but I don't know where to start. Thanks, Steve -- Steve Anderson steveo@member.fsf.org From emiddell@gmx.net Wed Nov 26 04:27:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from catbert.middell.net (pD9E791F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.231.145.242]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F6818384 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 04:27:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from dilbert.middell.net (dilbert.middell.net [192.168.0.3]) by catbert.middell.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3873AC1C for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:27:44 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Wireless network sync setup help - Sony Clie UX-50 From: Eike Middell To: gnome-pilot-list In-Reply-To: <1069779670.6165.3.camel@localhost> References: <1069779670.6165.3.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1069838836.5196.7.camel@dilbert.middell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:27:16 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Steve, I had the same problem some time (september) ago when I tried to sync my Palm Tungsten T via Bluetooth. pilor-x-fer worked, gpilotd didn't. In this mailing list they told me then that this wouldn't work at the moment with gpilotd, so it seems that the gui of gpilotd presents options that aren't implemented yet. If you can live without evolution try jpilot. This one accepts net:any as device. And of course: since it has been quite a while this information doesn't have to be still correct. Greetings, Eike On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 18:01, Steven L. Anderson wrote: > I'd like to be able to use Gnome Pilot to wirelessly (via 802.11) sync > my Sony Clie UX-50 with Evolution. > > I've tried to use the configuration app (gpilotd-control-applet) both > from the command line and from within Evolution (Tools|Pilot Settings). > It popped up the first use screen so I can set up the configuration > options. > > I clicked forward, which took me to the cradle settings. Here's where I > got into trouble. Although I could select Network, I could not figure > out how to configure it. Since I want to connect via the network, there > is no port. But if I delete the port, I can't click forward. If I > leave any devices set in the Port field, I cannot later sync the PDA to > get past the initial sync. I would assume, once I click network, that I > should be able to set IP, host, etc. information. > > I'm using Evolution 1.4.5 on Gentoo and gpilotd-control-applet 2.0.10 > with a 2.4.20 kernel. > > I'm able to communicate with the PDA using pilot-xfer (pilot-xfer -p > net:192.168.1.102 -l), so I know it's possible with my setup. > > Any ideas? I have no problem doing hand configuration, if needed, but I > don't know where to start. > > Thanks, > > Steve From L@rs-w.de Wed Nov 26 06:20:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9F818279 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:20:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AOxiQ-0007QP-Lj; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:20:14 +0100 Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE ([130.149.4.15]) by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:20:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailbox.tu-berlin.de ([130.149.4.18]) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AOxiQ-0007Pw-Km; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:20:14 +0100 Received: from pd951569c.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.81.86.156] helo=carryme.shs) by mailbox.tu-berlin.de with asmtp (exim-4.24-1) for id 1AOxiP-00016O-8G; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:20:13 +0100 Subject: Re: Clie / USB Timing Problem From: Lars Weissflog To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1069788365.598.0.camel@carryme.shs> References: <1069788365.598.0.camel@carryme.shs> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-Id: <1069845631.606.26.camel@carryme.shs> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:20:31 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Sophos MailMonitor on mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:20:14 +0100 Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Additional Info:=20 I just noticed there are two more line in dmesg: with usb-uhci.o loaded: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout visor.c: visor_startup - error getting first unknown palm command usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout visor.c: visor_startup - error getting second unknown palm command with alternative uhci.o loaded: visor.c: visor_startup - error getting first unknown palm command visor.c: visor_startup - error getting second unknown palm command So, the visor.c lines are suspicious but do not depend on the usb-uhci / uhci difference. Any hints? Regs Lars On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 20:26, Lars Weissflog wrote: > Hi all,=20 >=20 > before staring with the problem: This is long. Sorry, but I tried to > include as much information as possible, i.e. all I have for now. It's > about USB timing problems, dealing with the relevant modules and more > related to the usb-subsystem than to pilot-link or gnome-pilot, but I > assume those of you who developed the pilot-link stuff and all that know > a lot about the USB-stuff as well and might derive from my explanations > below that it is _not_ a problem of pilot-link as others on USB-Related > lists might propose. So here I go: >=20 > Some of you might remember that I repeatedly reported about "timing > issues" when trying to sync my Sony Clie SJ30 with evolution. Well, this > is not evolution or gnome-pilot specific as I learned today. Here is > what I have so far: >=20 > 1) pilot-link's version numbers give me headache, but that's not the > core problem, Anyway: > -- > [1850] moi@carryme:~ $ pilot-xfer --version > .--. > | (c) Copyright 1996-2003, pilot-link team | > | Join the pilot-link lists to help out. | > `--' > This is pilot-xfer, from pilot-link version 0.11.7 >=20 > Build target..: i686-pc-linux-gnu > Build date....: Feb 9 2003 17:26:03 >=20 > pilot-link 0.11.7 is covered under the GPL/LGPL > See the file COPYING under docs for more info. >=20 > Please use -h for more detailed options. > -- > This says it is version 0.11.7. This is the first thing I don't > understand. The manpage says in its last line: >=20 > -- > (c) FSF 1996-2003 pilot-link - 0.11.8 pilot-xfer(1) > Manual page pilot-xfer(1) line 222/252 (END) > -- > So according to this it should be 0.11.8. >=20 > I installed it from Jamie's packages together with gnome-pilot, > evolution and so on: > -- > [1850] moi@carryme:~ $ apt-cache policy pilot-link > pilot-link: > Installed: 0.11.8-4jds1 > Candidate: 0.11.8-4jds1 > Version Table: > *** 0.11.8-4jds1 0 > 500 http://ftp.acc.umu.se gnome2.2/ Packages > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > 0.9.5.0-8 0 > 500 http://ftp.de.debian.org stable/main Packages > -- >=20 > Okay, now you'll point me at the possibility that there are manually > installed versions on my system. NO!: > -- > [1849][root@carryme:/]$ updatedb > [1850][root@carryme:/]$ locate pilot-xfer > /usr/bin/pilot-xfer > /usr/share/man/man1/pilot-xfer.1.gz > [1850][root@carryme:/]$ >=20 > -- > So, there is definitely only _one_ pilot-xfer binary on my box, and that > one claims to be 0.11.7 though Jamie's packages claim to be 0.11.8. > STRANGE. But that is not the timing problem I was talking about. See > below. >=20 > 2) Kernel: 2.4.20, build from stock kernel.org sources, several times, > working flawlessly, having USB support as modules: > -- > [1852][root@carryme:/]$ lsmod > Module Size Used by Not tainted > [...unrelated...] > visor 8556 0=20 > usbserial 16508 0 [visor] > keybdev 1728 0 (unused) > mousedev 3768 1=20 > hid 18564 0 (unused) > input 3296 0 [keybdev mousedev hid] > usb-uhci 21196 0 (unused) > usbcore 61696 1 [visor usbserial hid usb-uhci] > [...unrelated...] > [1856][root@carryme:/]$=20 > -- >=20 > Okay, this is all stuff that more or less uses the USB subsystem, and > here the problems start: I'm using usb-uhci since (a) someone once > mentioned it is the standard driver and should be preferred against uhci > (JE-alternative) and (b) vmware requires that one and won't work with > the latter.=20 > Now, when using usb-uhci I _sometimes_ can connect to my clie (be it in > gnome-pilot running gpilotd or, after killing gpilotd, using > pilot-xfer), apparently when I hit hotsync on the clie and then, a > second or something later start pilot-xfer on the laptop. To make this > clear: I _do_ know and understand that I have to hit hotsync first and > afterwards start pilot-xfer. OK!?=20 > Using the alternative uhci module, I get connected _every_ _single_ > _time_, no matter how long I wait between pressing hotsync and executing > pilot-xfer. > I have recently installed woody on my big machine and that one has a > SIS-Chipset, using the usb-ohci module. On that machine I get connected > every single time, too. >=20 > So, apparently the problem I was chasing from time to time over the last > year or so arises from the usb-uhci code. There is something I noticed > in the kernel log when connecting the clie, but you don't have to read > the following output now, I'll come back to it a little later and point > you at the strange lines.=20 > With usb-uhci I get in /var/log/messages: > -- > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-2, > assigned address 5 > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc. > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: Product: Palm Handheld > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter detected > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / > Cli=E9 4.x: Number of ports: 2 > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / > Cli=E9 4.x: port 1, is for Generic use and is bound to ttyUSB0 > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / > Cli=E9 4.x: port 2, is for HotSync use and is bound to ttyUSB1 > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# > 1137 > Nov 25 19:06:43 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB0 (or usb/tts/0 for devfs) > Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB1 (or usb/tts/1 for devfs) > Nov 25 19:06:54 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# > 838 > Nov 25 19:06:57 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > Nov 25 19:06:58 carryme kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device > 00:07.2-2 address 5 > Nov 25 19:06:58 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 > Nov 25 19:06:58 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1 >=20 > -- > Starting pilot-xfer at any time during the appearance of these messages, > it results in saying: >=20 > -- > [1852] moi@carryme:~ $ pilot-xfer -p /dev/ttyUSB1 -l >=20 > Listening to port: /dev/ttyUSB1 >=20 > Please press the HotSync button now...=20 > -- > So, no connection possible 99% of my tries. in 01% of my tries it seems > I have the right timing in my fingers to fire up pilot-xfer in the right > moment. STRANGE. THIS IS MY PROBLEM. >=20 > Okay, next I try the alternative uhci module. First, I unload visor, > usbserial and then usb-uhci in that order. Second, I modprobe uhci, > usbserial, visor back into kernel again in that order. Finally, I press > hotsync on the clie and get the following in var/log/messages: >=20 > -- > -- MARK -- > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-2, > assigned address 4 > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc. > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: Product: Palm Handheld > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter detected > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / > Cli=E9 4.x: Number of ports: 2 > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / > Cli=E9 4.x: port 1, is for Generic use and is bound to ttyUSB0 > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / > Cli=E9 4.x: port 2, is for HotSync use and is bound to ttyUSB1 > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB0 (or usb/tts/0 for devfs) > Nov 25 19:21:20 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now attached to ttyUSB1 (or usb/tts/1 for devfs) > Nov 25 19:21:30 carryme kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device > 00:07.2-2 address 4 > Nov 25 19:21:30 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 > Nov 25 19:21:30 carryme kernel: usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 > / Cli=E9 4.x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1 > -- >=20 > With the uhci module, the pilot-xfer listing command runs no matter how > long I wait before executing it after those lines saying "... attached > to ttyUSB1..." appear in the log.=20 > As mentioned above, here we return to the usb-uhci output. What makes me > wonder are three additional lines found in /var/log/messages when using > usb-uhci, they are: >=20 > -- > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# > 1137 > Nov 25 19:06:43 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > -- >=20 > These lines appear twice in that log (see above for the entire log in > the usb-uhci case), just after visor.c has bound to USB1 and just after > usbserial.c has bound to USB1.=20 >=20 > So, here I ask the USB-experts out there: What does that timeout message > mean? Could it be a problem with a lousy USB-Chipset? lspci gives: > -- > 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) > -- > Which belongs to the 440ZX in this HP Omnibook XE3 (PIIIM-700): >=20 > -- > 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge (rev > 03) > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX AGP bridge (rev > 03) > -- >=20 > I found many posts via google dealing with those timeout messages, but > nowhere was an answer that would lead to anything. Hope here someone has > some tips what to try next. >=20 > Regards=20 > Lars --=20 LarsWeissflog L@rs-W dot DE From stefan@hegner-online.de Fri Nov 28 07:13:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from sally.dts-online.net (sally.dts-online.net [212.62.68.35]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BF01840F for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:13:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from hegi.bogus.heginet.local (213-182-115-168.teleos-web.de [213.182.115.168]) by sally.dts-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C693A3AFA27 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:13:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hegi.bogus.heginet.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD86CCD4 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:13:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from hegi.bogus.heginet.local ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hegi [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01532-02 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:13:37 +0100 (CET) Received: by hegi.bogus.heginet.local (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CBEA8CE10; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:13:35 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Clie / USB Timing Problem From: Stefan Ulrich Hegner To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1069845631.606.26.camel@carryme.shs> References: <1069788365.598.0.camel@carryme.shs> <1069845631.606.26.camel@carryme.shs> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-NCmiT/ZshBWDiqeq3EY3" Message-Id: <1070021614.3493.8.camel@hegi.bogus.heginet.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:13:35 +0100 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bogus.heginet.local Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-NCmiT/ZshBWDiqeq3EY3 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Lars, what you describe is exactly what I have been (and sill am) struggeling with. In short: Clie-SJ30; i440BX Chipset; usb-uhci and plain vanilla-kernel (2.4.20; kernel.org) The following I got myself: Am Mit, den 26.11.2003 schrieb Lars Weissflog um 12:20: > usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > visor.c: visor_startup - error getting first unknown palm command > usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > visor.c: visor_startup - error getting second unknown palm command > > Nov 25 19:06:40 carryme kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# > > 1137 > > Nov 25 19:06:43 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > > Nov 25 19:06:46 carryme kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > > So, no connection possible 99% of my tries. in 01% of my tries it seems > > I have the right timing in my fingers to fire up pilot-xfer in the righ= t > > moment. STRANGE. THIS IS MY PROBLEM. Probably I wasn't persistent enough. I only got your 99% - no connection. alternative uhci module wouldn't work on my system. My current status: I downloaded 2.4.22 and patched it to 2.4.23rc2. There is still the interrupt message ... but the syncing works. My gut feeling: This might possibly also be a sony problem, resulting from a not properly implemented serial protocol or whatever. I get this idea, because people with similar setup but different PDAs don't seem to have this trouble. Maybe it's worth trying to contact sony and get an opinion from them. HTH Stefan. --=20 / Stefan Ulrich Hegner aka "Hegi" - Loehne/ Westfalen - Germany \ | stefan@hegner-online.de, my Cyberhome http://www.hegner-web.de| \ GPG-Fprint D9DB 51BD 2DA6 9B3A 41CB 0287 05A1 8D11 38BA CE91 / --=-NCmiT/ZshBWDiqeq3EY3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/xzvuBaGNETi6zpERApU3AJ9ir+j4aNaJ1q5zGESgD+H025AO3wCfZWYl UMSAymIfuOIyM/5HWGJIwtM= =Lihi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-NCmiT/ZshBWDiqeq3EY3-- From L@rs-w.de Sun Nov 30 17:19:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5527D183ED for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:19:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-2) for id 1AQZuv-0006VB-L5; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:19:49 +0100 Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE ([130.149.4.15]) by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:19:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailbox.tu-berlin.de ([130.149.4.18]) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with esmtp (exim-4.24-2) for id 1AQZuv-0006Uj-K6; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:19:49 +0100 Received: from pd9e31bb9.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.227.27.185] helo=carryme.shs) by mailbox.tu-berlin.de with asmtp (exim-4.24-2) for id 1AQZuu-0007ma-K2; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:19:48 +0100 Subject: Re: Clie / USB Timing Problem From: Lars Weissflog To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1070021614.3493.8.camel@hegi.bogus.heginet.local> References: <1069788365.598.0.camel@carryme.shs> <1069845631.606.26.camel@carryme.shs> <1070021614.3493.8.camel@hegi.bogus.heginet.local> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1070230805.617.13.camel@carryme.shs> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:20:06 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Sophos MailMonitor on mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:19:49 +0100 Sender: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-pilot-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The PalmOS integration pacakge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 13:13, Stefan Ulrich Hegner wrote: > what you describe is exactly what I have been (and sill am) struggeling > with. That is good news in some sort of way... at least I'm not alone ;-) > Probably I wasn't persistent enough. I only got your 99% - no > connection. > If you get told "that has to work, it works for everyone!" you keep tryin' ;-) > alternative uhci module wouldn't work on my system. > Uh? What does that mean? Doesn't load at all? Doesn't connect? I can't remember having any problems with the alternative module on any system so far, at least not in the "basic" sense (Insmod, compilation etc.) > My current status: I downloaded 2.4.22 and patched it to 2.4.23rc2. > There is still the interrupt message ... but the syncing works. > I'll give .23 a try next weekend. Or maybe its time for 2.6 > My gut feeling: > This might possibly also be a sony problem, resulting from a not > properly implemented serial protocol or whatever. > Yepp, that's what came to my minds before. Wouldn't be the first time Sony produces crap. > I get this idea, because people with similar setup but different PDAs > don't seem to have this trouble. > Unfortunately, I've note met anyone with an USB device by now to test another one. > Maybe it's worth trying to contact sony and get an opinion from them. > I would be very surprised if you would get _any_ answer at all. And if, it certainly would be: We regret to inform you that Sony Inc. does not support linux in any way - And hey, your SJ30 is rather old, how about an upgrade? For only 499 Bucks we could ship you a brand new XJ-S-500-Super (Win32only, of course). But if you'd like to give it a try, tell them they may contact me for details. Good luck. On the other hand: If you say .23rc2 is working, maybe there has been something fixed in the meantime that has never been brought into relation with our problem. And that would blame the fault on the linux side. Or even better: maybe once again the linux coders have found nice little bucks in commercial products and produced non-commercial solutions to ship around them, probably being standard-conform at the same time ;-) I'll see.... Lars > HTH > > Stefan. > > -- LarsWeissflog L@rs-W dot DE