From chavakk19@yahoo.co.in Sat Dec 1 04:15:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from web8104.in.yahoo.com (web8104.in.yahoo.com [203.199.70.104]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B11B01812F for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 04:15:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011201091526.20139.qmail@web8104.in.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.41.85.80] by web8104.mail.in.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Dec 2001 01:15:26 PST Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 01:15:26 -0800 (PST) From: kirankumar chava Subject: facing a problem in translating gnome to telugu To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I tried to send a mail to coordinator of gnome telugu translator Mr.Akkineni Rajesh(rajesh@idoot.com). But that mail returned saying that unable to find local host. I hope u take a necessary action to give me a chance in translating gnome in to telugu. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! 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(8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00228; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 18:19:29 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3C0A629B.D04E57BA@menthos.com> Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 18:19:23 +0100 From: Christian Rose X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.9-13 i686) X-Accept-Language: sv, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Karl Eichwalder Cc: GNOME i18n list Subject: Bug in po-toys Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: It seems the latest version of po-toys (0.3.4) simply drops non-ASCII characters when composing a new translation memory on newer Linux systems (glibc 2.2.4 and gettext 0.10.38 in my case). I.e, the msgstr "_Rutnätsupplösning:" becomes "_Rutntsupplsning:" in the memory. This is of course very unfortunate. Any solution to this? Christian From ke@gnu.franken.de Sun Dec 2 12:52:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from elvis.franken.de (elvis.franken.de [193.175.24.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D7E182CB for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 12:52:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from uucp by elvis.franken.de with local-rmail (Exim 3.22 #1) id 16AanH-0007r9-00; Sun, 02 Dec 2001 18:52:47 +0100 Received: by tux.gnu.franken.de (Postfix, from userid 270) id 7DFDEA5AA0; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 17:51:21 +0000 (UTC) To: Christian Rose Cc: Karl Eichwalder , GNOME i18n list Subject: Re: Bug in po-toys References: <3C0A629B.D04E57BA@menthos.com> In-Reply-To: <3C0A629B.D04E57BA@menthos.com> (Christian Rose's message of "Sun, 02 Dec 2001 18:19:23 +0100") From: Karl Eichwalder Reply-To: Karl Eichwalder Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 18:51:20 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Christian Rose writes: > It seems the latest version of po-toys (0.3.4) simply drops non-ASCII > characters when composing a new translation memory on newer Linux > systems (glibc 2.2.4 and gettext 0.10.38 in my case). I.e, the msgstr > "_Rutn=E4tsuppl=F6sning:" becomes "_Rutntsupplsning:" in the memory. This= is > of course very unfortunate. I'm very sorry about this problem. But I warned often enough po-toys aren't compatible with gettext 0.10.36 and later :-( gettext-0.11 has reached a pre-release stage; most of my hack will become superfluous with the advent of gettext 0.11; the new gettext manual will feature a short recipe how to deal with "compendia" (AKA "translation memory"). At http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-gettext.html you can find a link from where to download the pre-release. Hope this helps -- please ask, when there are problems with gettext 0.11-pre2 (but you must not use it together with po-toys). --=20 ke@suse.de (work) / keichwa@gmx.net (home): | http://www.suse.de/~ke/ | ,__o Free Translation Project: | _-\_<, http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/ | (*)/'(*) From menthos@menthos.com Sun Dec 2 13:34:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from igloo.df.lth.se (igloo.df.lth.se [194.47.250.47]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B7818137 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 13:34:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from menthos.com (E405.sparta.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by igloo.df.lth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04005; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 19:34:18 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3C0A7425.9CD5EFF@menthos.com> Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 19:34:13 +0100 From: Christian Rose X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.9-13 i686) X-Accept-Language: sv, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Karl Eichwalder Cc: GNOME i18n list Subject: Re: Bug in po-toys References: <3C0A629B.D04E57BA@menthos.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Karl Eichwalder wrote: > > It seems the latest version of po-toys (0.3.4) simply drops non-ASCII > > characters when composing a new translation memory on newer Linux > > systems (glibc 2.2.4 and gettext 0.10.38 in my case). I.e, the msgstr > > "_Rutnätsupplösning:" becomes "_Rutntsupplsning:" in the memory. This is > > of course very unfortunate. > > I'm very sorry about this problem. But I warned often enough po-toys > aren't compatible with gettext 0.10.36 and later :-( Ok, I guess I'll have to live with not updating the memory for the time being. > gettext-0.11 has reached a pre-release stage; most of my hack will > become superfluous with the advent of gettext 0.11; the new gettext > manual will feature a short recipe how to deal with "compendia" (AKA > "translation memory"). Oh, that's nice to hear! Great news! > At http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-gettext.html you > can find a link from where to download the pre-release. > > Hope this helps -- please ask, when there are problems with gettext > 0.11-pre2 (but you must not use it together with po-toys). Ok, I'll try this feature out when there are packages for my distribution. Thanks for the response, Christian From ke@gnu.franken.de Sun Dec 2 15:57:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from elvis.franken.de (elvis.franken.de [193.175.24.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9096418481 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 15:57:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from uucp by elvis.franken.de with local-rmail (Exim 3.22 #1) id 16AdgT-00044K-00; Sun, 02 Dec 2001 21:57:57 +0100 Received: by tux.gnu.franken.de (Postfix, from userid 270) id B6340A5AA0; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 20:34:11 +0000 (UTC) To: Christian Rose Cc: GNOME i18n list Subject: Re: Bug in po-toys References: <3C0A629B.D04E57BA@menthos.com> <3C0A7425.9CD5EFF@menthos.com> In-Reply-To: <3C0A7425.9CD5EFF@menthos.com> (Christian Rose's message of "Sun, 02 Dec 2001 19:34:13 +0100") From: Karl Eichwalder Reply-To: Karl Eichwalder Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 21:34:11 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Christian Rose writes: > Ok, I guess I'll have to live with not updating the memory for the time > being. I guess it will work when all involved .po files have charset info entries: "MIME-Version: 1.0\n" "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1\n" "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n" Because of race conditions of 'msgcomm' the header sometimes is thrown away... > Ok, I'll try this feature out when there are packages for my > distribution. Okay, but it isn't that difficult to compile and install it. -- ke@suse.de (work) / keichwa@gmx.net (home): | http://www.suse.de/~ke/ | ,__o Free Translation Project: | _-\_<, http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/ | (*)/'(*) From menthos@menthos.com Sun Dec 2 16:19:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from igloo.df.lth.se (igloo.df.lth.se [194.47.250.47]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244D018481 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 16:19:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from menthos.com (E405.sparta.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by igloo.df.lth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA15234; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 22:19:55 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3C0A9AF5.FF00445D@menthos.com> Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 22:19:49 +0100 From: Christian Rose X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.9-13 i686) X-Accept-Language: sv, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Karl Eichwalder Cc: GNOME i18n list Subject: Re: Bug in po-toys References: <3C0A629B.D04E57BA@menthos.com> <3C0A7425.9CD5EFF@menthos.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Karl Eichwalder wrote: > Because of race conditions of 'msgcomm' the header sometimes is thrown > away... Ok. > > Ok, I'll try this feature out when there are packages for my > > distribution. > > Okay, but it isn't that difficult to compile and install it. No, the compilation part isn't the problem. Christian From fouvry@cc.at.coli.uni-sb.de Mon Dec 3 10:29:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from top.coli.uni-sb.de (top.coli.uni-sb.de [134.96.68.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E2D180F3 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 10:29:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from cc.at.coli.uni-sb.de (IDENT:root@cc.at.coli.uni-sb.de [134.96.104.80]) by top.coli.uni-sb.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA29584; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:28:49 +0100 (MET) Received: (from fouvry@localhost) by cc.at.coli.uni-sb.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) id QAA19110; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:28:44 +0100 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:28:44 +0100 Message-Id: <200112031528.QAA19110@cc.at.coli.uni-sb.de> From: Frederik Fouvry To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Cc: d-mueth@uchicago.edu Subject: language codes Reply-To: Frederik Fouvry Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, A question about your usage of language codes. In KDE, we are about to decide on the proper names of language codes and locales. There are two points of view currently: stick to RFC 3066 or stick to ISO 639-2. The first one more or less means that the existing situation is continued, at least as far as language codes are concerned. (I'm rather ignorant where locales are concerned.) The second one requires conversion of all language codes/tags to the 3-character code of ISO 639-2. I noticed that your indications on the web pages are as ambiguous as ours: you refer however to ISO 639-2, which technically lists 3-character language codes, but you use 2-character codes. From the list of codes, e.g. "wa" is not an ISO code, "x-wa" is; you use "no", which is a correct code, but ambiguous (as far as I can see - for us no and nb mean the same); you happen to use zh_CN, which is probably based on the locale name (RFC 3066 prescribes "zh-CN"). (Sorry for the nitpicking ;-) What are your plans with this? One of the reason that I'm asking is that if we have divergent language codes, we need to explicitly consider the way in which the other(s) use(s) the codes, and implement the mappings. Not really nice, and prone to being forgotten. Personally, I'd like to use RFC 3066, but not everyone is agreeing with this, because it is some mix of the two ISO 639 lists (i.e. use ISO 639-1 where available, otherwise ISO 639-2). The disadvantage with pure ISO 639-2 is that most software uses the 2-character codes, HTML requires RFC 1766 (successor is RFC 3066), so everything needs to be mapped to the usage described in the RFC anyway. For our documentation, changing over would not be too complicated: the language codes need to be changed in the DTD (they are stored in parameter entities, and as such they are invisible for our translators, as are any changes to the codes), and a mapping function in the style sheets would need to be written (to find the style sheet for the appropriate language). For the locales, this is probably more complicated, but I don't really have a clue about these. Reactions? PS: I'm not on the list, so please send them directly to me, or to the KDE DocBook list. And if you know of any other projects that will have to deal with the same problem, feel free to forward the message. -- Frederik Fouvry - fouvry@coli.uni-sb.de KDE DocBook Team - kde-docbook@master.kde.org From pablo@mandrakesoft.com Mon Dec 3 11:59:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from chanae.alphanet.ch (212-100-178-141.adsl.easynet.be [212.100.178.141]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97676180D8 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 11:59:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from srtxg@localhost) by chanae.alphanet.ch (8.9.0/8.9.0) id RAA18966; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:48:57 +0100 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:48:57 +0100 From: Pablo Saratxaga To: Frederik Fouvry Cc: gnome-i18n@gnome.org, d-mueth@uchicago.edu Subject: Re: language codes Message-ID: <20011203174857.A18385@chanae.alphanet.ch> Mail-Followup-To: Frederik Fouvry , gnome-i18n@gnome.org, d-mueth@uchicago.edu References: <200112031528.QAA19110@cc.at.coli.uni-sb.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0us In-Reply-To: <200112031528.QAA19110@cc.at.coli.uni-sb.de>; from fouvry@CoLi.Uni-SB.DE on Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 04:28:23PM +0100 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Kaixo! On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 04:28:23PM +0100, Frederik Fouvry wrote: > I noticed that your indications on the web pages are as ambiguous > as ours: you refer however to ISO 639-2, which technically lists > 3-character language codes, but you use 2-character codes. From > the list of codes, e.g. "wa" is not an ISO code, Walloon language is not yet recognized by ISO codes (be them 2 or 3 letter based); discussions are ongoing in order to obtain one. I just have used "wa" because a code was needed in order for the translations to work. If the officially attributed code would be different, then I'll change; in the meantime I prefer a "non offical" code that allows the use of Walloon language rather than forbiding in practice its use. > "x-wa" is; is it? or is it just as unofficial as "wa" ? Also, when I started with "wa", several programs expected the language code to be 2 chars only. > -- > Frederik Fouvry - fouvry@coli.uni-sb.de > KDE DocBook Team - kde-docbook@master.kde.org -- Ki ça vos våye bén, Pablo Saratxaga http://www.srtxg.easynet.be/ PGP Key available, key ID: 0x8F0E4975 From fouvry@CoLi.Uni-SB.DE Mon Dec 3 12:19:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from top.coli.uni-sb.de (top.coli.uni-sb.de [134.96.68.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE6B180D8 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 12:19:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from gnome.at.coli.uni-sb.de (gnome.coli.uni-sb.de [134.96.68.17]) by top.coli.uni-sb.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA11978; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 18:19:07 +0100 (MET) Received: (from fouvry@localhost) by gnome.at.coli.uni-sb.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) id SAA08468; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 18:17:20 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 18:17:20 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200112031717.SAA08468@gnome.at.coli.uni-sb.de> From: Frederik Fouvry To: pablo@mandrakesoft.com Cc: gnome-i18n@gnome.org, d-mueth@uchicago.edu In-reply-to: <20011203174857.A18385@chanae.alphanet.ch> (message from Pablo Saratxaga on Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:48:57 +0100) Subject: Re: language codes Reply-To: Frederik Fouvry References: <200112031528.QAA19110@cc.at.coli.uni-sb.de> <20011203174857.A18385@chanae.alphanet.ch> Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: | | Walloon language is not yet recognized by ISO codes (be them 2 or 3 letter | based); discussions are ongoing in order to obtain one. | I just have used "wa" because a code was needed in order for the translations | to work. | If the officially attributed code would be different, then I'll change; | in the meantime I prefer a "non offical" code that allows the use of Walloon | language rather than forbiding in practice its use. Sure - nothing against getting it to work (that's how it's done by us for most of the Walloon things too, but there's not that much ;-). | > "x-wa" is; | | is it? or is it just as unofficial as "wa" ? "x" is the official prefix for house-brewn tags. So you can put "x-" in front of anything and it'll be valid (well, _almost_ anything ;-). It's typically meant for languages that are still to be done, hence "x-wa" or "x-walloon" (the KDE DocBook DTD customisation uses the first one). Another example: "x-klingon" - this one probably without any hope of ever becoming official ;-) | Also, when I started with "wa", several programs expected the language | code to be 2 chars only. I'm sure there were reasons for the current state of affairs (also for us). It's just that that we are beginning to find out that it isn't sufficient anymore. We already had people show interest for languages that do not have a 2-character tag in ISO, for instance (only a 3-character code). We have to change at some stage, and if we are prepared, and more or less agree on the setup, that's the best of worlds. Cheers, Frederik From sebol@ikhlas.com Tue Dec 4 07:37:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from ipop1 (ipop1.tm.net.my [202.188.0.245]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC51318C09 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 07:37:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from ikhlas.com (mlk-198-211.tm.net.my [203.106.198.211]) by ipop1.tm.net.my (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GNT00992KDTFV@ipop1.tm.net.my> for gnome-i18n@gnome.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2001 20:37:06 +0800 (SGT) Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 20:37:05 +0800 From: "Hasbullah Bin Pit (sebol)" Subject: Re: language codes To: Pablo Saratxaga Cc: Frederik Fouvry , gnome-i18n@gnome.org, d-mueth@uchicago.edu Message-id: <3C0CC371.6040303@ikhlas.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: ms User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; ms-MY; rv:0.9.6) Gecko/20011120 References: <200112031528.QAA19110@cc.at.coli.uni-sb.de> <20011203174857.A18385@chanae.alphanet.ch> Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: when talking about lang that not yet recognized by ISO.... is it a "dialect"? How about dialect that very different with its language? Pablo Saratxaga wrote: > Walloon language is not yet recognized by ISO codes (be them 2 or 3 letter > based); discussions are ongoing in order to obtain one. > I just have used "wa" because a code was needed in order for the translations > to work. > If the officially attributed code would be different, then I'll change; > in the meantime I prefer a "non offical" code that allows the use of Walloon > language rather than forbiding in practice its use. -- Hasbullah Bin Pit (sebol) " Satu set ARAHAN langkah demi langkah yang memberitahu komputer untuk melaksanakan TUGAS tertentu bagi menghasilkan KEPUTUSAN diingini" - Cik Nor Edayu Adros From fouvry@CoLi.Uni-SB.DE Tue Dec 4 08:00:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from top.coli.uni-sb.de (top.coli.uni-sb.de [134.96.68.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CBDE1823F for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 08:00:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from gnome.at.coli.uni-sb.de (gnome.coli.uni-sb.de [134.96.68.17]) by top.coli.uni-sb.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA03111; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:00:02 +0100 (MET) Received: (from fouvry@localhost) by gnome.at.coli.uni-sb.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) id NAA27285; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 13:58:14 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 13:58:14 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200112041258.NAA27285@gnome.at.coli.uni-sb.de> From: Frederik Fouvry To: sebol@ikhlas.com Cc: pablo@mandrakesoft.com, gnome-i18n@gnome.org, d-mueth@uchicago.edu In-reply-to: <3C0CC371.6040303@ikhlas.com> (sebol@ikhlas.com) Subject: Re: language codes Reply-To: Frederik Fouvry References: <200112031528.QAA19110@cc.at.coli.uni-sb.de> <20011203174857.A18385@chanae.alphanet.ch> <3C0CC371.6040303@ikhlas.com> Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: ,-- One day, you wrote: | | when talking about lang that not yet recognized by ISO.... | is it a "dialect"? | How about dialect that very different with its language? The ISO codes are not about languages and dialects, but about identifying the natural language in which documents have been written (or recorded, ...). One of the main criteria ISO seems to be using, is that there should be enough written/printed documents in the language, and then it can get a code. The distinction between a language and a dialect is hard to make anyway. There is no clear-cutting definition possible on linguistic grounds. It's been said - I forgot who did - that a language is a dialect with an army and a navy. -- Frederik Fouvry - fouvry@coli.uni-sb.de KDE DocBook Team - kde-docbook@master.kde.org From menthos@menthos.com Tue Dec 4 08:08:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from igloo.df.lth.se (igloo.df.lth.se [194.47.250.47]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843281823F for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 08:08:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from menthos.com (E405.sparta.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by igloo.df.lth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09959 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:08:37 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3C0CCACA.228431D@menthos.com> Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 14:08:26 +0100 From: Christian Rose X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.9-13 i686) X-Accept-Language: sv, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GNOME i18n list Subject: gfax statistics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: It seems gfax removed all translations for some reason... So I've removed it from the stable translation status page, as it breaks statistics. Christian From menthos@menthos.com Tue Dec 4 08:13:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from igloo.df.lth.se (igloo.df.lth.se [194.47.250.47]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8870A18C25 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 08:13:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from menthos.com (E405.sparta.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by igloo.df.lth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10188 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:13:21 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3C0CCBE6.BFC7FC98@menthos.com> Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 14:13:10 +0100 From: Christian Rose X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.9-13 i686) X-Accept-Language: sv, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GNOME i18n list Subject: pan statistics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: The pan statistics seem very wrong. If I check it in CVS HEAD, the stats for sv.po is: 963 translated messages. Although the stable status page has reported: 936 translated messages, 10 fuzzy messages. for several days. What's up? Christian From menthos@menthos.com Tue Dec 4 08:27:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from igloo.df.lth.se (igloo.df.lth.se [194.47.250.47]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5167718C40 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 08:27:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from menthos.com (E405.sparta.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by igloo.df.lth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11422 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:27:57 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3C0CCF52.66880613@menthos.com> Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 14:27:46 +0100 From: Christian Rose X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.9-13 i686) X-Accept-Language: sv, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GNOME i18n list Subject: gnome-games statistics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: The stats for gnome-games seem wrong... The stable status page reports: 676 translated messages, 2 fuzzy messages, 2 untranslated messages. for the sv.po in the stable gnome-games-1-4 branch since quite some time. However, when I check in CVS, the stats are: 678 translated messages. and the very same messages that the stats page sv.po reports as untranslated or fuzzy are translated in this file! I've re-checked out it locally and made sure I don't have the wrong branch here, so it seems very strange. Christian From maddog@linuxhall.org Tue Dec 4 10:04:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [202.64.190.63]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091901823F for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 10:04:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from ip-214.deaddog.ws ([202.64.190.214]) by localhost with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 16BH71-0008HC-00 for ; Tue, 04 Dec 2001 23:03:59 +0800 Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 23:04:01 +0800 (HKT) From: "R.I.P. Deaddog" To: GNOME i18n list Subject: Re: gnome-games statistics In-Reply-To: <3C0CCF52.66880613@menthos.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Christian Rose wrote: > The stats for gnome-games seem wrong... > The stable status page reports: [......] > and the very same messages that the stats page sv.po reports as > untranslated or fuzzy are translated in this file! I've re-checked out > it locally and made sure I don't have the wrong branch here, so it seems > very strange. Not sure why, almost any branch that I indicated in web-devel-2 are having various problems in status pages. Is that I missed something? Carlos? Abel From carlos@gnome-db.org Tue Dec 4 10:12:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from Gollum.gnome-db.org (unknown [213.96.77.61]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94D3186DD for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 10:12:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from Bilbo.gnome-db.org (carlos@BilBo.gnome-db.org [192.168.1.3]) by Gollum.gnome-db.org (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -2) with ESMTP id fB4FCmFm003940; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 16:12:48 +0100 Subject: Re: gnome-games statistics From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= To: "R.I.P. Deaddog" Cc: GNOME i18n list In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-zSY3tNYHoTCybcf8Em+2" X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 04 Dec 2001 16:12:49 +0100 Message-Id: <1007478769.460.20.camel@Bilbo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-zSY3tNYHoTCybcf8Em+2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El mar, 04-12-2001 a las 16:04, R.I.P. Deaddog escribi=F3: > On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Christian Rose wrote: >=20 > > The stats for gnome-games seem wrong... > > The stable status page reports: > [......] >=20 > > and the very same messages that the stats page sv.po reports as > > untranslated or fuzzy are translated in this file! I've re-checked out > > it locally and made sure I don't have the wrong branch here, so it seem= s > > very strange. >=20 > Not sure why, almost any branch that I indicated in web-devel-2 are > having various problems in status pages. Is that I missed something? > Carlos? I'm working on it. I have a problem I forgot. If we change a branch the old one is not changed automaticly (at widget.gnome.org), It needs to be removed or "converted" I don't know how convert a HEAD branch checkout into a gnome-1-4-branch one (for example). I'm reviewing all branchs at this moment and I will regenerate the status pages then. Sorry. >=20 > Abel >=20 > _______________________________________________ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n --=20 Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn mailto:carlos@gnome-db.org mailto:carlos.perello@hispalinux.es http://www.gnome-db.org http://www.Hispalinux.es Valencia - Spain --=-zSY3tNYHoTCybcf8Em+2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8DOfxEuPMamD5V9cRAp7ZAJ9PjGnZryFNciuuVxg8kDk30SKO6QCdEGDo Up/owtK3Rd2s+/vVl+RQ9sY= =vaSG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-zSY3tNYHoTCybcf8Em+2-- From maddog@linuxhall.org Tue Dec 4 10:29:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [202.64.190.63]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E881823F for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 10:29:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from ip-214.deaddog.ws ([202.64.190.214]) by localhost with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 16BHVI-0008IC-00 for ; Tue, 04 Dec 2001 23:29:04 +0800 Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 23:29:06 +0800 (HKT) From: "R.I.P. Deaddog" To: Gnome I18N List Subject: More statictics problems... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, Here are a few more problems in GTP status page: 1. yelp is in unstable page, but the file http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gtp/status/unstable/po/yelp.pot doesn't exist. 2. Seems the scripts generating GTP pages can't handle 8-bit chars in msgid. Gtranslator was shown to contain 359 entries in various invididual language pages, but in fact it has 39x entries... the questionable entry has 8bit char in msgid. 3. http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gtp/status/stable/po/gimp-perl.pot Is generated at Sep 1999 !? Abel From carlos@gnome-db.org Tue Dec 4 12:06:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from Gollum.gnome-db.org (unknown [213.96.77.61]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4AB018CC1 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 12:06:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from Bilbo.gnome-db.org (carlos@BilBo.gnome-db.org [192.168.1.3]) by Gollum.gnome-db.org (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -2) with ESMTP id fB4H7TFm007161; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 18:07:29 +0100 Subject: Re: More statictics problems... From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= To: "R.I.P. Deaddog" Cc: GNOME i18n list In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-fZmmB6s4uFdhiz2GIc8O" X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 04 Dec 2001 18:07:30 +0100 Message-Id: <1007485650.460.25.camel@Bilbo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-fZmmB6s4uFdhiz2GIc8O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El mar, 04-12-2001 a las 16:29, R.I.P. Deaddog escribi=F3: > Hi, >=20 > Here are a few more problems in GTP status page: >=20 > 1. yelp is in unstable page, but the file > http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gtp/status/unstable/po/yelp.pot > doesn't exist. The POTFILE.in was wrong. Fixed. >=20 > 2. Seems the scripts generating GTP pages can't handle 8-bit chars in > msgid. Gtranslator was shown to contain 359 entries in various > invididual language pages, but in fact it has 39x entries... the > questionable entry has 8bit char in msgid. >=20 I don't know anything about this bug. Could you please tell us the locales you have tested? Spanish locale (es) uses 8bit chars and it's ok (I think). > 3. http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gtp/status/stable/po/gimp-perl.pot > Is generated at Sep 1999 !? >=20 I think that is the method they use for update this .pot file (gimp has its own scripts). Bye P.S.: The status pages are beeing updated now, please check it again in about 2 or 3 hours and tell me if we have new problems Thanks. > Abel >=20 > _______________________________________________ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n --=20 Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn mailto:carlos@gnome-db.org mailto:carlos.perello@hispalinux.es http://www.gnome-db.org http://www.Hispalinux.es Valencia - Spain --=-fZmmB6s4uFdhiz2GIc8O Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8DQLREuPMamD5V9cRAvCzAJ9Lzu1pUT56UivkmLvXp4c8wWnxmwCdFNex zx2M0pZEI4sEhL/ILLjZQO0= =38Gw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-fZmmB6s4uFdhiz2GIc8O-- From maddog@linuxhall.org Tue Dec 4 14:11:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [202.64.190.63]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C188918675 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:11:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from cm203-168-221-108.hkcable.com.hk ([203.168.221.108] helo=mobile.maddog.lan) by localhost with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 16BKyD-0008U4-00; Wed, 05 Dec 2001 03:11:09 +0800 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 03:11:12 +0800 (HKT) From: "R.I.P. Deaddog" To: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= Cc: GNOME i18n list Subject: Re: More statictics problems... In-Reply-To: <1007485650.460.25.camel@Bilbo> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-645136563-1007493071=:14846" Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-645136563-1007493071=:14846 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On 4 Dec 2001, Carlos [ISO-8859-1] Perell=F3 Mar=EDn wrote: > > 1. yelp is in unstable page, but the file > > http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gtp/status/unstable/po/yelp.pot > > doesn't exist. > > The POTFILE.in was wrong. Fixed. Thanks. > > 2. Seems the scripts generating GTP pages can't handle 8-bit chars in > > msgid. Gtranslator was shown to contain 359 entries in various > > invididual language pages, but in fact it has 39x entries... the > > questionable entry has 8bit char in msgid. > > I don't know anything about this bug. Could you please tell us the > locales you have tested? > > Spanish locale (es) uses 8bit chars and it's ok (I think). Sorry for the fuzz. When I look closer into zh_TW.po, it turns out that the translator has modified msgid as well as msgstr. Corrected the corresponding po file, so I'll wait and see if everything goes well after status page is updated. > > 3. http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gtp/status/stable/po/gimp-perl.p= ot > > Is generated at Sep 1999 !? > > I think that is the method they use for update this .pot file (gimp has > its own scripts). Yes, but when the script generating gimp-perl.pot is called, it sets POT-Creation-Time to localtime(). Is the pot file in d.g.o hand-generated? > P.S.: The status pages are beeing updated now, please check it again in > about 2 or 3 hours and tell me if we have new problems Thanks for the great work. As a side note, is it a possible idea to have META tag added to various individual status pages, so that charset for different locales are set correctly? Attached a patch again genhtml.pl, but it is untested. 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Deaddog" To: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= Cc: GNOME i18n list Subject: Re: More statictics problems... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-400054759-1007493271=:14846" Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-400054759-1007493271=:14846 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, R.I.P. Deaddog wrote: > As a side note, is it a possible idea to have META tag added to various > individual status pages, so that charset for different locales are > set correctly? Attached a patch again genhtml.pl, but it is untested. Sorry, the previous patch is obviously wrong, forgot to escape the double quotes. Here's a corrected one. 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Deaddog" , GNOME i18n list Subject: Re: More statictics problems... References: <1007485650.460.25.camel@Bilbo> In-Reply-To: <1007485650.460.25.camel@Bilbo> (Carlos =?iso-8859-1?q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn's?= message of "04 Dec 2001 18:07:30 +0100") From: Karl Eichwalder Reply-To: Karl Eichwalder Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 20:15:53 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn writes: >> 2. Seems the scripts generating GTP pages can't handle 8-bit chars in >> msgid. Gtranslator was shown to contain 359 entries in various >> invididual language pages, but in fact it has 39x entries... the >> questionable entry has 8bit char in msgid. > Spanish locale (es) uses 8bit chars and it's ok (I think). Having 8bit chars in msgid is a bug. Try to call msgmerge (recent version) for a multibyte language. --=20 ke@suse.de (work) / keichwa@gmx.net (home): | http://www.suse.de/~ke/ | ,__o Free Translation Project: | _-\_<, http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/ | (*)/'(*) From maddog@linuxhall.org Tue Dec 4 15:01:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [202.64.190.63]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040FC187CD for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 15:01:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from cm203-168-221-108.hkcable.com.hk ([203.168.221.108] helo=mobile.maddog.lan) by localhost with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 16BLk9-0008WB-00; Wed, 05 Dec 2001 04:00:41 +0800 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 04:00:44 +0800 (HKT) From: "R.I.P. Deaddog" To: Karl Eichwalder Cc: Carlos =?iso-8859-1?q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= , GNOME i18n list Subject: Re: More statictics problems... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Karl Eichwalder wrote: > >> 2. Seems the scripts generating GTP pages can't handle 8-bit chars in > >> msgid. Gtranslator was shown to contain 359 entries in various > >> invididual language pages, but in fact it has 39x entries... the > >> questionable entry has 8bit char in msgid. > > > Spanish locale (es) uses 8bit chars and it's ok (I think). > > Having 8bit chars in msgid is a bug. Try to call msgmerge (recent > version) for a multibyte language. Oh yeah, you're true. Most multibyte language failed at the same point..... Abel From carlos@gnome-db.org Tue Dec 4 15:10:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from Gollum.gnome-db.org (unknown [213.96.77.61]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260931883C for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 15:10:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from Bilbo.gnome-db.org (carlos@BilBo.gnome-db.org [192.168.1.3]) by Gollum.gnome-db.org (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -2) with ESMTP id fB4KBWFm012149; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 21:11:32 +0100 Subject: Re: More statictics problems... From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= To: "R.I.P. Deaddog" Cc: GNOME i18n list In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-F6XW9F/IFYP8shmsy9XE" X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 04 Dec 2001 21:11:32 +0100 Message-Id: <1007496693.460.34.camel@Bilbo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-F6XW9F/IFYP8shmsy9XE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El mar, 04-12-2001 a las 20:14, R.I.P. Deaddog escribi=F3: > On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, R.I.P. Deaddog wrote: >=20 > > As a side note, is it a possible idea to have META tag added to various > > individual status pages, so that charset for different locales are > > set correctly? Attached a patch again genhtml.pl, but it is untested. >=20 > Sorry, the previous patch is obviously wrong, forgot to escape the > double quotes. Here's a corrected one. >=20 The change is now at cvs.gnome.org. I have fixed small errors ;-) You could see now the http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gtp/status/stable/status.shtml pages with this patch. Bye && Thanks. P.S.: I don't know if use of US-ASCII default is correct. Mozilla shows you the page with the correct charset without this patch and now I don't know if it will show you other pages without a charset set. > Abel > ---- >=20 > --- /home/maddog/cvs/CVS.GNOME.ORG/gnome-i18n/status/genhtml.pl Wed Dec = 5 02:34:17 2001 > +++ ./genhtml.pl Wed Dec 5 03:06:45 2001 > @@ -54,6 +54,26 @@ > =20 > # used =3D> for readability. > =20 > +my %charset =3D ( > + "da" =3D> "iso-8859-1", > + "de" =3D> "iso-8859-1", > + "el" =3D> "iso-8859-7", > + "es" =3D> "iso-8859-1", > + "fr" =3D> "iso-8859-1", > + "gl" =3D> "iso-8859-1", > + "ja" =3D> "euc-jp", > + "hu" =3D> "iso-8859-2", > + "nn" =3D> "iso-8859-1", > + "no" =3D> "iso-8859-1", > + "pt" =3D> "iso-8859-1", > + "ro" =3D> "iso-8859-2", > + "ru" =3D> "koi8-r", > + "sv" =3D> "iso-8859-1", > + "tr" =3D> "iso-8859-9", > + "uk" =3D> "koi8-u", > + "wa" =3D> "iso-8859-1" > +) > + > my %modulenames =3D ( > "da" =3D> "Modul", > "de" =3D> "Paket", > @@ -490,8 +510,12 @@ > $link =3D "$details_" . substr($lang, 0, 5) . ".shtml"; > open TABLE2, ">$htmldir/$link" or die "can't open $htmldir/$link"; > $detail =3D $details{$lang} || $details{"C"} . $lang; > + $charset =3D $charset{$lang} || "US-ASCII"; > print TABLE2 <<"EOF"; > -$detail > + > +$detail > + > + > $detail
> > EOF --=20 Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn mailto:carlos@gnome-db.org mailto:carlos.perello@hispalinux.es http://www.gnome-db.org http://www.Hispalinux.es Valencia - Spain --=-F6XW9F/IFYP8shmsy9XE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8DS30EuPMamD5V9cRArBYAJ9MrMlVZUPzZ6aGzrd5thresnQRKwCggfj2 U0AkQadO/huiEhs+p1T+xpc= =u9Kh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-F6XW9F/IFYP8shmsy9XE-- From carlos@gnome-db.org Tue Dec 4 15:21:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from Gollum.gnome-db.org (unknown [213.96.77.61]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824171877B for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 15:21:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from Bilbo.gnome-db.org (carlos@BilBo.gnome-db.org [192.168.1.3]) by Gollum.gnome-db.org (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -2) with ESMTP id fB4KMnFm012405 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 21:22:49 +0100 Subject: Remain problems with status pages From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= To: GNOME i18n list Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-kLHOsinf4ZQds8icoZqn" X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 04 Dec 2001 21:22:49 +0100 Message-Id: <1007497369.459.36.camel@Bilbo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-kLHOsinf4ZQds8icoZqn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Today the unstable gconf && gnome-db have bad statistics so please, don't use this modules. Tomorrow will be fixed. Bye --=20 Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn mailto:carlos@gnome-db.org mailto:carlos.perello@hispalinux.es http://www.gnome-db.org http://www.Hispalinux.es Valencia - Spain --=-kLHOsinf4ZQds8icoZqn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8DTCZEuPMamD5V9cRAmSaAKCCSsNUx4Et/fPZCgL1kHiYJMQhqgCdEqER wq6CNAzK0B+TbW2pKs3eUBg= =TDl8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-kLHOsinf4ZQds8icoZqn-- From maddog@linuxhall.org Tue Dec 4 15:27:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [202.64.190.63]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D698A18860 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 15:27:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from cm203-168-221-108.hkcable.com.hk ([203.168.221.108] helo=mobile.maddog.lan) by localhost with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 16BM9s-00006V-00; Wed, 05 Dec 2001 04:27:16 +0800 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 04:27:19 +0800 (HKT) From: "R.I.P. Deaddog" To: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= Cc: GNOME i18n list Subject: Re: More statictics problems... In-Reply-To: <1007496693.460.34.camel@Bilbo> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On 4 Dec 2001, Carlos [ISO-8859-1] Perell=F3 Mar=EDn wrote: > > Sorry, the previous patch is obviously wrong, forgot to escape the > > double quotes. Here's a corrected one. > > The change is now at cvs.gnome.org. I have fixed small errors ;-) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ =09=09=09=09 See'em. How dumb I am :) > P.S.: I don't know if use of US-ASCII default is correct. Mozilla shows > you the page with the correct charset without this patch and now I don't > know if it will show you other pages without a charset set. If strings are untranslated in a particular language, then english is displayed as a fallback. Guess using ASCII wouldn't hurt :) However, I'm not absolutely clear if the charsets are all correct. Just waiting for people to flame me... Abel From keld@rap.rap.dk Tue Dec 4 15:40:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from rap.rap.dk (213.237.47.228.adsl.vbr.worldonline.dk [213.237.47.228]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419FF18C9D for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 15:40:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by rap.rap.dk (Postfix, from userid 500) id 281A4382C5; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 21:40:11 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 21:40:11 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Keld_J=F8rn_Simonsen?= To: "R.I.P. Deaddog" Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= , GNOME i18n list Subject: Re: More statictics problems... Message-ID: <20011204214011.F1443@rap.rap.dk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from maddog@linuxhall.org on Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 03:14:32AM +0800 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi! Is it possible to get the statistics pages to validate? Kind regards Keld From carlos@gnome-db.org Tue Dec 4 15:48:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from Gollum.gnome-db.org (unknown [213.96.77.61]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B4718776 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 15:48:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from Bilbo.gnome-db.org (carlos@BilBo.gnome-db.org [192.168.1.3]) by Gollum.gnome-db.org (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -2) with ESMTP id fB4KnQFm013208; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 21:49:26 +0100 Subject: Re: More statictics problems... From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= To: Keld =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F8rn?= Simonsen Cc: "R.I.P. Deaddog" , GNOME i18n list In-Reply-To: <20011204214011.F1443@rap.rap.dk> References: <20011204214011.F1443@rap.rap.dk> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-ikiQa9DJbjLEBBHOP/St" X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 04 Dec 2001 21:49:25 +0100 Message-Id: <1007498966.459.39.camel@Bilbo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-ikiQa9DJbjLEBBHOP/St Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El mar, 04-12-2001 a las 21:40, Keld J=F8rn Simonsen escribi=F3: > Hi! >=20 > Is it possible to get the statistics pages to validate? With w3c? I accept patchs ;-) I haven't time for this (sorry). >=20 > Kind regards > Keld --=20 Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn mailto:carlos@gnome-db.org mailto:carlos.perello@hispalinux.es http://www.gnome-db.org http://www.Hispalinux.es Valencia - Spain --=-ikiQa9DJbjLEBBHOP/St Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8DTbVEuPMamD5V9cRAmxJAJ0XJMhEzmhQfL9k+LaT4JU49QAg9ACghBYX ZXKbxokEFYknFgQBIBVj7cE= =d9u8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-ikiQa9DJbjLEBBHOP/St-- From jaime@gcubo.org Tue Dec 4 16:59:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from relay1-us.simplemente.net (relay1-us.simplemente.net [216.167.121.82]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E698218D7D for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 16:59:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from gen-71.gcubo.org (212-170-181-60.uc.nombres.ttd.es [212.170.181.60]) by relay1-us.simplemente.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96CDD7AC1 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 16:59:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from jaime@localhost) by gen-71.gcubo.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB4LqoQ02388; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 22:52:50 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: gen-71.gcubo.org: jaime set sender to jaime@gcubo.org using -f Subject: unsuscribe From: Jaime Anguiano Olarra To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/0.99.1+cvs.2001.11.07.16.47 (Preview Release) Date: 04 Dec 2001 22:52:50 +0100 Message-Id: <1007502770.2372.0.camel@gen-71.gcubo.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: From menthos@menthos.com Wed Dec 5 10:19:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from igloo.df.lth.se (igloo.df.lth.se [194.47.250.47]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A5D18F02 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 10:19:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from menthos.com (E405.sparta.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by igloo.df.lth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28954; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 16:19:26 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3C0E3AEF.A347732@menthos.com> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 16:19:11 +0100 From: Christian Rose X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.9-13 i686) X-Accept-Language: sv, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lorna Whelan Cc: GNOME i18n list Subject: CVS changes to Swedish glossary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: RCS file: /cvs/gnome/gnome-i18n/glossary/sv.po,v Working file: sv.po head: 1.5 branch: locks: strict access list: symbolic names: web-snapshot-20010730: 1.4 keyword substitution: kv total revisions: 5; selected revisions: 5 description: ---------------------------- revision 1.5 date: 2001/10/12 10:45:29; author: lornaw; state: Exp; lines: +1376 -1036 Updating sv.po I'm not sure I'm too happy with this change. This change removed my copyright information from the sv.po file and also removed the po file header, resulting in an invalid po file, and breaking the stable translation statistics for sv. I also cannot see any actual changes to the translation contents of the file -- podiff doesn't display anything, so I'm not sure why this "update" was committed at all. It must have been a mistake. Anyway, in the future, I'd like to be contacted in advance before changes to sv.po are committed. Christian From pablo@mandrakesoft.com Wed Dec 5 10:50:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from chanae.alphanet.ch (212-100-178-141.adsl.easynet.be [212.100.178.141]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190E018104 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 10:50:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from srtxg@localhost) by chanae.alphanet.ch (8.9.0/8.9.0) id QAA28965 for gnome-i18n@gnome.org; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 16:42:40 +0100 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 16:42:40 +0100 From: Pablo Saratxaga To: GNOME i18n list Subject: Re: More statictics problems... Message-ID: <20011205164240.F25993@chanae.alphanet.ch> Mail-Followup-To: GNOME i18n list References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0us In-Reply-To: ; from maddog@linuxhall.org on Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 04:00:23AM +0800 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Kaixo! On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 04:00:23AM +0800, R.I.P. Deaddog wrote: > > >> 2. Seems the scripts generating GTP pages can't handle 8-bit chars in > > >> msgid. Gtranslator was shown to contain 359 entries in various > > Having 8bit chars in msgid is a bug. Try to call msgmerge (recent > > version) for a multibyte language. > > Oh yeah, you're true. Most multibyte language failed at the same > point..... In fact you can have non-ascii in msgid; but it *must* be in the same encoding as the msgstr (that is, the one announced in the po file header). In practice that means that the only non-ascii encoding suitable to use is utf-8; and that doing so also mandates to use utf-8 for all translations. Now however, as utf-8 usage isn't yet widespread, it is better to avoid using any non ascii char. But in the future, when utf-8 will be the dafault; it will be possible to start using non-ascii chars in the source strings, if needed. -- Ki ça vos våye bén, Pablo Saratxaga http://www.srtxg.easynet.be/ PGP Key available, key ID: 0x8F0E4975 From Damien.Donlon@Sun.COM Wed Dec 5 12:06:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from patan.sun.com (patan.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB800182D1 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:06:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from ireserver.Ireland.Sun.COM ([129.156.220.7]) by patan.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15651; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 10:06:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from Sun.COM (basil [129.156.232.73]) by ireserver.Ireland.Sun.COM (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id RAA18666; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:06:44 GMT Message-ID: <3C0E53F7.C1A67EE7@Sun.COM> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 17:05:59 +0000 From: Damien Donlon Reply-To: Damien.Donlon@Sun.COM Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76C-CCK-MCD Netscape [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christian Rose , gnome-i18n@gnome.org Subject: Re: CVS changes to Swedish glossary References: <3C0E3AEF.A347732@menthos.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------FEAB6D2AC3B82867A9123AC5" Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------FEAB6D2AC3B82867A9123AC5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Christian Rose wrote: > = > RCS file: /cvs/gnome/gnome-i18n/glossary/sv.po,v > Working file: sv.po > head: 1.5 > branch: > locks: strict > access list: > symbolic names: > web-snapshot-20010730: 1.4 > keyword substitution: kv > total revisions: 5; selected revisions: 5 > description: > ---------------------------- > revision 1.5 > date: 2001/10/12 10:45:29; author: lornaw; state: Exp; lines: +137= 6 > -1036 > Updating sv.po > = > I'm not sure I'm too happy with this change. This change removed my > copyright information from the sv.po file and also removed the po file > header, resulting in an invalid po file, and breaking the stable > translation statistics for sv. Hi Christian, Lorna is no longer working on Gnome. As you said, the the copyright got lost in 1.5. Lesson learned : "Don't forget to run 'msgfmt --verbose --strict' on any future = deliveries" ! BTW - I do see new messages in 1.5 against 1.4 so it's weird podiff isn't picking them up. I am seeing the msgid's attached as new. In any case, big apologies for the inconvenience. We'll be sure to notify you first on any future changes. Regards, Damien > = > I also cannot see any actual changes to the translation contents of the= > file -- podiff doesn't display anything, so I'm not sure why this > "update" was committed at all. It must have been a mistake. Anyway, in > the future, I'd like to be contacted in advance before changes to sv.po= > are committed. > = > Christian > _______________________________________________ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n -- = =A4=BA=FF=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=FF=B0`=B0= =BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=FF=A4 Damien Donlon damien.donlon@sun.com 00 353 1 8199225 x19225 --------------FEAB6D2AC3B82867A9123AC5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="new1.5.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="new1.5.txt" msgid: "3D" msgid: "a.m./p.m." msgid: "applet popup menu" msgid: "Arrow button" msgid: "Border" msgid: "... button" msgid: "capplet" msgid: "check box" msgid: "choose" msgid: "click on, click" msgid: "click-and-hold" msgid: "Collapse" msgid: "Color selector button" msgid: "column heading" msgid: "Command button" msgid: "Configure" msgid: "Deselect" msgid: "desktop background" msgid: "dialog element" msgid: "dialog pane" msgid: "double-click on" msgid: "Drag" msgid: "drawer" msgid: "drop-down combination box" msgid: "drop-down list box" msgid: "email" msgid: "empty" msgid: "Enter" msgid: "Expand" msgid: "File Manager menu" msgid: "filename" msgid: "focus" msgid: "Font selector button" msgid: "Font selector dialog" msgid: "Global Menu" msgid: "GNOME footprint" msgid: "GNOME Panel" msgid: "group box" msgid: "Hide button" msgid: "Icon selector button" msgid: "Icon selector dialog" msgid: "left-click on" msgid: "left mouse button" msgid: "list box" msgid: "Main Menu" msgid: "Main Menu button" msgid: "maximise" msgid: "menu bar" msgid: "Menu Panel" msgid: "menu title" msgid: "menu tree pane" msgid: "middle mouse button" msgid: "navigation pane" msgid: "Open Windows menu" msgid: "option" msgid: "Pane" msgid: "panel" msgid: "Panel menu" msgid: "plugin" msgid: "point to" msgid: "press" msgid: "pressed in" msgid: "privileges" msgid: "Restore" msgid: "right-click on" msgid: "right mouse button" msgid: "Root menu" msgid: "selected/unselected" msgid: "shade" msgid: "shortcut command" msgid: "shortcut key" msgid: "Specify" msgid: "spin box" msgid: "status bar" msgid: "status dock" msgid: "status docklet" msgid: "stick" msgid: "submenu item" msgid: "swallowed application" msgid: "tabbed section" msgid: "tasklist" msgid: "tasklist button" msgid: "task group menu" msgid: "task menu" msgid: "text box" msgid: "title bar" msgid: "toggle button" msgid: "Toolbar button" msgid: "unavailable" msgid: "unshade" msgid: "website" msgid: "window frame" msgid: "Window frame button" msgid: "window group" msgid: "window list" msgid: "Workspace" --------------FEAB6D2AC3B82867A9123AC5-- From nilgun@technologist.com Wed Dec 5 12:09:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from nilgun.transsoft.home (unknown [195.175.215.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F17182D1 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:09:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from there (mail.transsoft.home [127.0.0.1]) by nilgun.transsoft.home (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fB5J9xP01293 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 19:10:00 GMT Message-Id: <200112051910.fB5J9xP01293@nilgun.transsoft.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" From: =?utf-8?q?Nilg=C3=BCn=20Belma=20Bug=C3=BCner?= Reply-To: nilgun@technologist.com Organization: home To: GNOME i18n list Subject: gnumeric & UTF-8 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 19:09:57 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello, I am the Turkish translator for gnumeric. While testing my translation, I noticed the following problem: I use my system with LANG="tr_TR.UTF-8" I use recent gettext, which does UTF->ISO translations on the fly, and works fine for other programs. I have formatted the translation file (PO) in UTF-8. Now in gnumeric, certain strings look fine, but cells display gibberish (UTF-8 displayed in ISO8859-9.) As I do use the latest version of gettext, which does work fine for other programs, I am inclined to believe that this is due to something gnumeric must be doing. Any suggestions as to where this might be coming from? Best regards, Nilgün From menthos@menthos.com Wed Dec 5 12:44:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from igloo.df.lth.se (igloo.df.lth.se [194.47.250.47]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005121838F for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:44:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from menthos.com (E405.sparta.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by igloo.df.lth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA14280; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 18:44:54 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3C0E5D08.627F0211@menthos.com> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 18:44:40 +0100 From: Christian Rose X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.9-13 i686) X-Accept-Language: sv, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Damien.Donlon@Sun.COM Cc: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Subject: Re: CVS changes to Swedish glossary References: <3C0E3AEF.A347732@menthos.com> <3C0E53F7.C1A67EE7@Sun.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Damien Donlon wrote: > > I'm not sure I'm too happy with this change. This change removed my > > copyright information from the sv.po file and also removed the po file > > header, resulting in an invalid po file, and breaking the stable > > translation statistics for sv. > > Hi Christian, > Lorna is no longer working on Gnome. As you said, the > the copyright got lost in 1.5. Lesson learned : > > "Don't forget to run 'msgfmt --verbose --strict' on any future > deliveries" ! Yeah, msgfmt -cvv is a very sane thing to do before commits, I learned that the hard way :) > BTW - I do see new messages in 1.5 against 1.4 so it's weird > podiff isn't picking them up. I am seeing the msgid's attached > as new. True, there were new messages added directly to the po file, and podiff didn't pick them up for some weird reason. However, these messages don't seem to have been added to GnomeGlossary.csv, which is very strange, since the po files are supposed to be generated and updated from the .csv file. So if these additions are supposed to be added to the glossary, they should probably be added to the .csv file first, and the translators allowed to update the po files from this file later. We could decide to skip the .csv file and go for just a regular .pot file instead, but in any case, I don't think it's clean to insert new msgid:s directly into the individual po files. > In any case, big apologies for the inconvenience. We'll be sure to > notify you first on any future changes. Thanks, and thanks for the answer. Christian From menthos@menthos.com Wed Dec 5 12:46:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from igloo.df.lth.se (igloo.df.lth.se [194.47.250.47]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97AD11880F for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:46:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from menthos.com (E405.sparta.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by igloo.df.lth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA14373; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 18:46:32 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3C0E5D69.DDB0099D@menthos.com> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 18:46:17 +0100 From: Christian Rose X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.9-13 i686) X-Accept-Language: sv, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nilgun@technologist.com Cc: GNOME i18n list Subject: Re: gnumeric & UTF-8 References: <200112051910.fB5J9xP01293@nilgun.transsoft.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Nilgün Belma Bugüner wrote: > As I do use the latest version of gettext, which does work fine for other > programs, I am inclined to believe that this is due to something gnumeric > must be doing. You should probably file this as a bug report against Gnumeric: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Gnumeric Christian From kmaraas@online.no Wed Dec 5 16:57:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from mail46.fg.online.no (mail46-s.fg.online.no [148.122.161.46]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5860D18F49 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 16:57:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from [212.17.128.27] ([212.17.128.27]) by mail46.fg.online.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA02975 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 22:57:13 +0100 (MET) Subject: Releases From: Kjartan Maraas To: GNOME i18n list Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1007567432.32176.6.camel@hoth.sre.oslo.kommune.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 05 Dec 2001 22:56:28 +0100 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I'm releasing: - control-center (from control-center-1-0 branch) - gnome-core (gnome-core-1-4) - gnome-applets (gnome-applets-1-4) _really_ soon. If anyone has outstanding translations please commit ASAP. I also received a ms.po trasnlation a while back which has been lost. Can someone please submit a new ms.po translation for gnome-core? Cheers Kjartan From chrisime@uni.de Thu Dec 6 14:39:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from basket.ball.reliam.net (basket.ball.reliam.net [213.91.6.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CAE188FE for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:39:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from dizzy (pD9590B19.dip.t-dialin.net [217.89.11.25]) by basket.ball.reliam.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FADC3F3E; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 20:39:39 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Releases From: Christian Meyer To: Kjartan Maraas Cc: GNOME i18n list In-Reply-To: <1007567432.32176.6.camel@hoth.sre.oslo.kommune.no> References: <1007567432.32176.6.camel@hoth.sre.oslo.kommune.no> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 06 Dec 2001 20:39:47 +0100 Message-Id: <1007667590.25599.4.camel@dizzy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 22:56, Kjartan Maraas wrote: > I'm releasing: > > - control-center (from control-center-1-0 branch) That's the 'new' controlcenter, isn't it? > - gnome-core (gnome-core-1-4) > - gnome-applets (gnome-applets-1-4) > > _really_ soon. If anyone has outstanding translations please commit > ASAP. DAMNIT! Most of us (German team) don't have much time to translate. I did some translations the last few days, but this won't suffice. When will the modules be released? This would help me/us much! Greetings, Christian From al_shopov@web.bg Thu Dec 6 15:46:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from websrv.topteam.bg (unknown [212.50.9.11]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5AB3418DC7 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:46:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from [212.50.9.52] (unverified [212.50.9.52]) by web.bg (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Thu, 06 Dec 2001 22:43:55 +0200 Subject: Re: Releases From: Alexander Shopov To: Christian Meyer Cc: kmaraas@online.no, gnome-i18n@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1007667590.25599.4.camel@dizzy> References: <1007567432.32176.6.camel@hoth.sre.oslo.kommune.no> <1007667590.25599.4.camel@dizzy> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 07 Dec 2001 23:42:19 +0200 Message-Id: <1007761340.1105.0.camel@kochina.web.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On =F7=F2, 2001-12-06 at 21:39, Christian Meyer wrote: > On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 22:56, Kjartan Maraas wrote: > > I'm releasing: > >=20 > > - control-center (from control-center-1-0 branch) >=20 > That's the 'new' controlcenter, isn't it? Nope, the old one. The new one is based on gtkhtml and is from the HEAD branch. Commit your translations to the control-center-1-0 branch. I hope you Germans get to commit in the nick of the time. In order to do the same for the Bulgarian translation I will need another 24 hours. Yet - Kjartan - do what has to be done! (Have another sandwich!) ;-) =20 Best regards, al_shopov From jdub@perkypants.org Sat Dec 8 06:00:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from sumo.solutionsfirst.com.au (sumo.solutionsfirst.net [61.8.3.51]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9670418134 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 06:00:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home.perkypants.org (c30604.thorn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [203.164.79.40]) by sumo.solutionsfirst.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82DC2E3CE for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 22:00:40 +1100 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home.perkypants.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 59F937474171; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 22:02:34 +1100 (EST) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 22:02:34 +1100 From: Jeff Waugh To: GNOME i18n list Subject: i18n help: Content negotiation? Message-ID: <20011208110234.GA6170@perkypants.org> Reply-To: jdub@perkypants.org, gnome-i18n@gnome.org Mail-Followup-To: GNOME i18n list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Reply-By: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 21:59:51 +1000 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.14-xfs i686 X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Uptime: 21:59:51 up 7 days, 13:23, 4 users, load average: 0.16, 0.13, 0.10 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, Interested to find out your thoughts on Apache content negotiation for choosing languages on the new GNOME website. Do you guys think it's effective, or is it preferable to choose languages on the site itself? [reply-to set accordingly] I'm on IRC if you'd like to drag me into i18n and educate me. :) Thanks, - Jeff -- Interplanetary Pants From carlos@gnome-db.org Sat Dec 8 07:01:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from Gollum.gnome-db.org (unknown [213.96.77.61]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2B118192 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 07:01:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from Bilbo.gnome-db.org (carlos@BilBo.gnome-db.org [192.168.1.3]) by Gollum.gnome-db.org (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -2) with ESMTP id fB8C1s6O010077; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 13:01:54 +0100 Subject: Re: i18n help: Content negotiation? From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= To: jdub@perkypants.org Cc: GNOME i18n list In-Reply-To: <20011208110234.GA6170@perkypants.org> References: <20011208110234.GA6170@perkypants.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Q0m9m0ln0fQzDiPUenl2" X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 08 Dec 2001 13:01:55 +0100 Message-Id: <1007812916.466.4.camel@Bilbo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-Q0m9m0ln0fQzDiPUenl2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El s=E1b, 08-12-2001 a las 12:02, Jeff Waugh escribi=F3: > Hi all, >=20 > Interested to find out your thoughts on Apache content negotiation for > choosing languages on the new GNOME website. Do you guys think it's > effective, or is it preferable to choose languages on the site itself? You should use both features. The automatic language detection and also you should let the user change the web page language. Bye >=20 > [reply-to set accordingly] >=20 > I'm on IRC if you'd like to drag me into i18n and educate me. :) >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > - Jeff >=20 > --=20 > Interplanetary Pants = =20 > _______________________________________________ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n --=20 Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn mailto:carlos@gnome-db.org mailto:carlos.perello@hispalinux.es http://www.gnome-db.org http://www.Hispalinux.es Valencia - Spain --=-Q0m9m0ln0fQzDiPUenl2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8EgEzEuPMamD5V9cRAnVtAJ9j5ZPg1yftZ4aQqmIoJQpg5Xcn9QCfaka4 gOh1ZWPIzfRGmoMr6kRkk6w= =Y07L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Q0m9m0ln0fQzDiPUenl2-- From dsplat@rochester.rr.com Sat Dec 8 09:29:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from mailout5.nyroc.rr.com (mailout5-0.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.122]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6A318143 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 09:29:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from rochester.rr.com (roc-24-24-55-17.rochester.rr.com [24.24.55.17]) by mailout5.nyroc.rr.com (8.11.6/Road Runner 1.12) with ESMTP id fB8ESXE15059; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 09:28:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3C12333A.78FE0F59@rochester.rr.com> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 10:35:22 -0500 From: "D. Dale Gulledge" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.3-20mdk i586) X-Accept-Language: eo, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GNOME i18n list Cc: Carlos =?iso-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3=20Mar=EDn?= , jdub@perkypants.org Subject: Re: i18n help: Content negotiation? References: <20011208110234.GA6170@perkypants.org> <1007812916.466.4.camel@Bilbo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Carlos Perelló Marín wrote: > > El sáb, 08-12-2001 a las 12:02, Jeff Waugh escribió: > > Hi all, > > > > Interested to find out your thoughts on Apache content negotiation for > > choosing languages on the new GNOME website. Do you guys think it's > > effective, or is it preferable to choose languages on the site itself? > > You should use both features. The automatic language detection and also > you should let the user change the web page language. For anyone looking a large-scale example of use of both on a site that is working well, SourceForge has done it. I'm sure that at least some of the people on this list are aware of that. While I'm assuming that they are using Apache, I know they are using content negotiation. -- D. Dale Gulledge, Sr. Programmer, dsplat@rochester.rr.com C, C++, Perl, Unix (AIX, Linux), Oracle, Java, Internationalization (i18n), Awk. From jdub@perkypants.org Sat Dec 8 09:32:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from sumo.solutionsfirst.com.au (sumo.solutionsfirst.net [61.8.3.51]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D391811B for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 09:32:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home.perkypants.org (c30604.thorn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [203.164.79.40]) by sumo.solutionsfirst.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FA0E393; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 01:32:02 +1100 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home.perkypants.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B927E7474171; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 01:33:57 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 01:33:57 +1100 From: Jeff Waugh To: Carlos Perell? Mar?n Cc: GNOME i18n list Subject: Re: i18n help: Content negotiation? Message-ID: <20011208143357.GC6170@perkypants.org> Reply-To: jdub@perkypants.org, gnome-i18n@gnome.org Mail-Followup-To: Carlos Perell? Mar?n , GNOME i18n list References: <20011208110234.GA6170@perkypants.org> <1007812916.466.4.camel@Bilbo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1007812916.466.4.camel@Bilbo> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Reply-By: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 01:32:31 +1000 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.14-xfs i686 X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Uptime: 01:32:31 up 7 days, 16:56, 4 users, load average: 0.07, 0.06, 0.07 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > You should use both features. The automatic language detection and also > you should let the user change the web page language. Have any of you guys worked with Apache content negotiation? There doesn't seem to be a way of allowing both transparent and manual selection without doing dynamic things on the server side. At least I haven't tracked one down yet. ;) - Jeff -- o/~ In spite of all those keystrokes, you're addicted to vim. *ka-ching!* o/~ From jdub@perkypants.org Sat Dec 8 09:42:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from sumo.solutionsfirst.com.au (sumo.solutionsfirst.net [61.8.3.51]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 662CD182E0 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 09:42:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home.perkypants.org (c30604.thorn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [203.164.79.40]) by sumo.solutionsfirst.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CFDCE3F7; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 01:42:26 +1100 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home.perkypants.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 261537474171; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 01:44:21 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 01:44:21 +1100 From: Jeff Waugh To: "D. Dale Gulledge" Cc: GNOME i18n list Subject: Re: i18n help: Content negotiation? Message-ID: <20011208144421.GD6170@perkypants.org> Reply-To: jdub@perkypants.org, gnome-i18n@gnome.org Mail-Followup-To: "D. Dale Gulledge" , GNOME i18n list References: <20011208110234.GA6170@perkypants.org> <1007812916.466.4.camel@Bilbo> <3C12333A.78FE0F59@rochester.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3C12333A.78FE0F59@rochester.rr.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Reply-By: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 01:43:19 +1000 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.14-xfs i686 X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Uptime: 01:43:19 up 7 days, 17:07, 5 users, load average: 0.17, 0.13, 0.09 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > For anyone looking a large-scale example of use of both on a site that is > working well, SourceForge has done it. I'm sure that at least some of the > people on this list are aware of that. While I'm assuming that they are > using Apache, I know they are using content negotiation. Yeah, unfortunately, that's a massively dynamic solution, using content negotiation as 'hints'. I fear a similar solution is going to be the only way. - Jeff -- "Linux continues to have almost as much soul as James Brown." - Forrest Cook, LWN From dsplat@rochester.rr.com Sat Dec 8 10:52:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from mailout5.nyroc.rr.com (mailout5-0.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.122]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACDCE1810C for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 10:52:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from rochester.rr.com (roc-24-24-55-17.rochester.rr.com [24.24.55.17]) by mailout5.nyroc.rr.com (8.11.6/Road Runner 1.12) with ESMTP id fB8FqZE20807; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 10:52:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3C1246EC.2FDF64FE@rochester.rr.com> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 11:59:24 -0500 From: "D. Dale Gulledge" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.3-20mdk i586) X-Accept-Language: eo, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jdub@perkypants.org, gnome-i18n@gnome.org Subject: Re: i18n help: Content negotiation? References: <20011208110234.GA6170@perkypants.org> <1007812916.466.4.camel@Bilbo> <3C12333A.78FE0F59@rochester.rr.com> <20011208144421.GD6170@perkypants.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > > For anyone looking a large-scale example of use of both on a site that is > > working well, SourceForge has done it. I'm sure that at least some of the > > people on this list are aware of that. While I'm assuming that they are > > using Apache, I know they are using content negotiation. > > Yeah, unfortunately, that's a massively dynamic solution, using content > negotiation as 'hints'. I fear a similar solution is going to be the only > way. I wonder if Google relies on something less intensive. There are a variety of degrees of language selection for a web site: 1) None, you get the language the site is in. For sites that serve a particular, limited market, or for which translation is too expensive, this is a viable option. 2) Manual language selection. At some point you can pick your language and the site honors your selection. Cookies are the obvious mechanism for this. It puts more of a burden on the server. 3) Content negotiation. This requires that the user's browser supports it, and that the server does. These days, that isn't a huge burden. It may not offer non-default languages to wget and robots. 4) Content negotiation with manual overriding, which is what we are discussing. It is obviously possible. It can create some interesting situations. For example, I get different languages from SourceForge depending on whether I am logged in. Obviously, it is possible to do it, and do it pretty well. But as you have pointed out, there is a price to be paid by the server. -- D. Dale Gulledge, Sr. Programmer, dsplat@rochester.rr.com C, C++, Perl, Unix (AIX, Linux), Oracle, Java, Internationalization (i18n), Awk. From V.vanAdrighem@dirck.mine.nu Sat Dec 8 14:00:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from dirck.mine.nu (a101184.upc-a.chello.nl [62.163.101.184]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6FD18136 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 14:00:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from dirck.mine.nu (localhost.a2000.nl [127.0.0.1]) by dirck.mine.nu (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -2) with SMTP id fB8J0kKl029708; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 20:00:56 +0100 Received: from 62.163.237.171 (SquirrelMail authenticated user vincent) by dirck.mine.nu with HTTP; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 20:00:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <2847.62.163.237.171.1007838057.squirrel@dirck.mine.nu> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 20:00:57 +0100 (CET) Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_i18n_help:_Content_negotiation=3F?= From: "Vincent van Adrighem" To: In-Reply-To: <3C1246EC.2FDF64FE@rochester.rr.com> References: <3C1246EC.2FDF64FE@rochester.rr.com> Cc: X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.0 [rc2]) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > There are a variety of degrees of language selection for a web site: > > 1) None, you get the language the site is in. For sites that serve a > particular, limited market, or for which translation is too expensive, > this is a viable option. > 2) Manual language selection. At some point you can pick your language > and the site honors your selection. Cookies are the obvious mechanism > for this. It puts more of a burden on the server. > 3) Content negotiation. This requires that the user's browser supports > it, and that the server does. These days, that isn't a huge burden. > It may not offer non-default languages to wget and robots. > 4) Content negotiation with manual overriding, which is what we are > discussing. It is obviously possible. It can create some interesting > situations. For example, I get different languages from SourceForge > depending on whether I am logged in. Obviously, it is possible to do > it, and do it pretty well. But as you have pointed out, there is a > price to be paid by the server. Debian.org seems to do both. I can set the language from within my browser. Content-negotiation selects the right one for me. But if you look at the bottom of the page, you can see that you have a choice, but you'd have to select this on every page...not very handy. Maybe content negotiation is the best way. You can change the settings yourself if you want to. Just my EUR 0.02 Vincent From maninder@dog.com Sat Dec 8 15:23:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from dog.com (tex.dogsaver.net [216.155.44.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D700D180D8 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 15:23:46 -0500 (EST) X-WM-Posted-At: dog.com; Sat, 8 Dec 01 15:23:46 -0500 X-WebMail-UserID: maninder Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 15:23:46 -0500 From: Crismus Bonus To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002170 Subject: Hi_IN team Message-ID: <3C1B6F91@dog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.61.05 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hey guys, Allow me to introduce myself. I am new to the list. I want to start the "Hi_IN" team. My team is covering various Devanagri. I have a system that is already running my Exodus GNU/Linux distribution that renders all devanagri glyphs and stuff absolutely correctly. Since I have this system ready and running, with the help of NCST Mumbai, I want to know if I can start my own team here to coordinate my work better? The system my distribution uses is IndiX, developed by NCST. It is a modified Xserver. I use an opentype font to render all glyphs. Please let me know if I can start my own team as I have a working solution. The current "Hindi" team does not seem to be active at all. Thanks. Maninder. CEO, Centurionlinux Email: maninder@centurionlinux.com (offlist mails) ____________________________________________________________ woof! woof! 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ESMTP id 99B5718E8E for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:42:34 -0500 (EST) X-WM-Posted-At: dog.com; Mon, 10 Dec 01 14:42:28 -0500 X-WebMail-UserID: maninder Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:42:28 -0500 From: Crismus Bonus To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002170 Subject: Is this list active? Message-ID: <3C1EC98F@dog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.61.05 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hey, I posted to this list a couple of days back regarding Hi_IN.UTF-8 team and asking if I could start my own team as I have a system that is already fully functional and stuff. Could someone please reply to this. Thanks. ____________________________________________________________ woof! woof! I'm @dog.com Get your free @dog e-mail at http://www.dog.com From carlos@gnome-db.org Mon Dec 10 14:54:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from Gollum.gnome-db.org (unknown [213.96.77.61]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1677318E6E for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:54:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from Bilbo.gnome-db.org (carlos@BilBo.gnome-db.org [192.168.1.3]) by Gollum.gnome-db.org (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -3) with ESMTP id fBAJtTpV007571; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 20:55:29 +0100 Subject: Re: Is this list active? From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= To: Crismus Bonus Cc: GNOME i18n list , harshkumar@vsnl.com In-Reply-To: <3C1EC98F@dog.com> References: <3C1EC98F@dog.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-OtDJVqmKtf9aVlueq1du" X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 10 Dec 2001 20:55:28 +0100 Message-Id: <1008014129.22821.56.camel@Bilbo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-OtDJVqmKtf9aVlueq1du Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El lun, 10-12-2001 a las 20:42, Crismus Bonus escribi=F3: > Hey, >=20 > I posted to this list a couple of days back regarding Hi_IN.UTF-8 team an= d=20 > asking if I could start my own team as I have a system that is already fu= lly=20 > functional and stuff. >=20 Yes, this list is alive. >=20 >=20 > Could someone please reply to this. If the actual coordinator team for Hindi translation don't answer your requests I suppose that you could get this task. The best way to start your own team is starting to translate programs and let some months to answer the old team coordinator. If he/she does not reply, then you could (without problems) be the official one. Please start the translations ;-) >=20 >=20 >=20 > Thanks. >=20 Thank you for your contributions!!!! > ____________________________________________________________ > woof! woof! I'm @dog.com > Get your free @dog e-mail at http://www.dog.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n --=20 Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn mailto:carlos@gnome-db.org mailto:carlos.perello@hispalinux.es http://www.gnome-db.org http://www.Hispalinux.es Valencia - Spain --=-OtDJVqmKtf9aVlueq1du Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8FRMwEuPMamD5V9cRAnBrAJ94Yl2a86ESlNvxCHx5MjvJLdc7nwCeMO4k 2WJIHtiWonR7oaR+YRkNAKM= =uoCY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-OtDJVqmKtf9aVlueq1du-- From carlos@gnome-db.org Mon Dec 10 15:42:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from Gollum.gnome-db.org (unknown [213.96.77.61]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE43718EC5 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 15:42:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from Bilbo.gnome-db.org (carlos@BilBo.gnome-db.org [192.168.1.3]) by Gollum.gnome-db.org (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -3) with ESMTP id fBAKhH8G009466 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 21:43:18 +0100 Subject: Re: GNOME CVS: web-devel-2 baddog From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= To: GNOME i18n list In-Reply-To: <20011209050019.BF870336072@cvs.gnome.org> References: <20011209050019.BF870336072@cvs.gnome.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-zEXFupXB+8HN0vOS/gss" X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 10 Dec 2001 21:43:16 +0100 Message-Id: <1008016997.22810.65.camel@Bilbo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-zEXFupXB+8HN0vOS/gss Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El dom, 09-12-2001 a las 06:00, Gnome CVS User escribi=F3: >=20 > CVSROOT: /cvs/gnome > Module name: web-devel-2 > Changes by: baddog 01/12/09 00:00:19 >=20 > Modified files: > content/projects/gtp/status/extra: ChangeLog modules.dat=20 > content/projects/gtp/status/stable: ChangeLog modules.dat=20 > content/projects/gtp/status/unstable: ChangeLog modules.dat=20 >=20 > Log message: > Reorganize gnomoku status. >=20 Why have you moved gnomoku from stable to extra pages? It's a official package for GNOME 1.4 :-? Bye > URL : http://cvs.gnome.org/bonsai/cvsquery.cgi?module=3Dweb-devel-2&branc= h=3DHEAD&branchtype=3Dmatch&dir=3Dweb-devel-2&file=3D&filetype=3Dmatch&who= =3Dbaddog&whotype=3Dmatch&sortby=3DDate&hours=3D&date=3Dexplicit&mindate=3D= 12%2F08%2F01+23%3A59&maxdate=3D12%2F09%2F01+00%3A01&cvsroot=3D%2Fcvs%2Fgnom= e >=20 > _______________________________________________ > cvs-commits-list mailing list > cvs-commits-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/cvs-commits-list --=20 Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn mailto:carlos@gnome-db.org mailto:carlos.perello@hispalinux.es http://www.gnome-db.org http://www.Hispalinux.es Valencia - Spain --=-zEXFupXB+8HN0vOS/gss Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8FR5kEuPMamD5V9cRAoLNAJ4hz7cziHk9RB8ZYJgZrfwHsdjwTwCfaV4r qRSeSnYSLF19K19ZgCl+PrM= =CEyO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-zEXFupXB+8HN0vOS/gss-- From maddog@linuxhall.org Mon Dec 10 20:15:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [202.64.190.63]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195F018DDD for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 20:15:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from cm203-168-221-108.hkcable.com.hk ([203.168.221.108] helo=mobile.maddog.lan) by localhost with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16DbV8-0007RK-00; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:14:30 +0800 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:14:30 +0800 (HKT) From: "R.I.P. Deaddog" To: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= Cc: GNOME i18n list Subject: Re: GNOME CVS: web-devel-2 baddog In-Reply-To: <1008016997.22810.65.camel@Bilbo> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On 10 Dec 2001, Carlos [ISO-8859-1] Perell=F3 Mar=EDn wrote: > > CVSROOT:=09/cvs/gnome > > Module name:=09web-devel-2 > > Changes by:=09baddog=0901/12/09 00:00:19 [.......] > > Log message: > > Reorganize gnomoku status. > > Why have you moved gnomoku from stable to extra pages? > It's a official package for GNOME 1.4 :-? Really? Actually I was quite suspecious about it staying in official package... but if it's really true, please revert my changes -- and accept my apology for that. Abel From carlos@gnome-db.org Tue Dec 11 03:57:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from gollum.gnome-db.org (unknown [213.96.77.61]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA8E188D0 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 03:57:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from Bilbo.gnome-db.org (BilBo.gnome-db.org [192.168.1.3]) by gollum.gnome-db.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F62B7F78; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:58:12 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: GNOME CVS: web-devel-2 baddog From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= To: "R.I.P. Deaddog" Cc: GNOME i18n list In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-kw19/HIVlmndTGfMMoER" X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 11 Dec 2001 09:58:11 +0100 Message-Id: <1008061092.497.0.camel@Bilbo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-kw19/HIVlmndTGfMMoER Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El mar, 11-12-2001 a las 02:14, R.I.P. Deaddog escribi=F3: > On 10 Dec 2001, Carlos [ISO-8859-1] Perell=F3 Mar=EDn wrote: >=20 > > > CVSROOT: /cvs/gnome > > > Module name: web-devel-2 > > > Changes by: baddog 01/12/09 00:00:19 > [.......] > > > Log message: > > > Reorganize gnomoku status. > > > > Why have you moved gnomoku from stable to extra pages? > > It's a official package for GNOME 1.4 :-? >=20 > Really? Actually I was quite suspecious about it staying in > official package... but if it's really true, please revert > my changes -- and accept my apology for that. >=20 If you look at releng package, you could see it as an official package. Bye > Abel >=20 > _______________________________________________ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n --=20 Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn mailto:carlos@gnome-db.org mailto:carlos.perello@hispalinux.es http://www.gnome-db.org http://www.Hispalinux.es Valencia - Spain --=-kw19/HIVlmndTGfMMoER Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8FcqjEuPMamD5V9cRAh3eAJ4qwtwBF4OiP3iyRMMiStnKxfsqyACeORTb jDvxsdRQ5r3Qtqh67My3Wy8= =xHww -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-kw19/HIVlmndTGfMMoER-- From ldaza@compunet.net.co Tue Dec 11 17:17:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from rodadero.compunet.net.co (unknown [200.30.102.55]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DF7184F0 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 17:17:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from aol.com ([200.30.102.50]) by rodadero.compunet.net.co (8.11.2/8.11.2) 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gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi! There is an Atomix module in CVS as well as gnome-i18n/extra-po/atomix. Is gnome-i18n/extra-po stuff obsolete? Regards Stanislav Visnovsky From carlos@gnome-db.org Wed Dec 12 09:49:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from gollum.gnome-db.org (unknown [213.96.77.61]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E881908C for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 09:49:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from Bilbo.gnome-db.org (BilBo.gnome-db.org [192.168.1.3]) by gollum.gnome-db.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383377F65; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 15:50:23 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Atomix translations From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= To: Stanislav Visnovsky Cc: GNOME i18n list In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-jXPwNol27us3SCpZYuwC" X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 12 Dec 2001 15:50:22 +0100 Message-Id: <1008168622.10932.2.camel@Bilbo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-jXPwNol27us3SCpZYuwC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El mi=E9, 12-12-2001 a las 15:33, Stanislav Visnovsky escribi=F3: >=20 > Hi! >=20 > There is an Atomix module in CVS as well as gnome-i18n/extra-po/atomix. > Is gnome-i18n/extra-po stuff obsolete? >=20 No, the gnome-i18n one is the atomix for GNOME 1.4 and the atomix module is the GNOME 2.0 port. Bye > Regards >=20 > Stanislav Visnovsky >=20 > _______________________________________________ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n --=20 Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn mailto:carlos@gnome-db.org mailto:carlos.perello@hispalinux.es http://www.gnome-db.org http://www.Hispalinux.es Valencia - Spain --=-jXPwNol27us3SCpZYuwC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8F26uEuPMamD5V9cRAgONAJ9ZBOZjg/MQu7mFQP8cJhJzOzk1gQCfbF9N EKpXPI7nkq7G7OzejduiC0s= =30P2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-jXPwNol27us3SCpZYuwC-- From joergen.scheibengruber@informatik.uni-ulm.de Wed Dec 12 12:05:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from mail.informatik.uni-ulm.de (mail.informatik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.68.63]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25BF18728 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 12:05:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from [134.60.220.86] (helo=planetarena.wh-hms.uni-ulm.de) by mail.informatik.uni-ulm.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16ECp2-0004Jg-00 for gnome-i18n@gnome.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:05:33 +0100 Subject: translations for gnomeradio (http://mfcn.ilo.de/gnomeradio) From: Joergen Scheibengruber To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 12 Dec 2001 18:03:25 +0100 Message-Id: <1008176605.8006.2.camel@planetarena> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi! I'm the developer of gnomeradio (http://mfcn.ilo.de/gnomeradio - a fm tuner app). It has reached a quite stable state now, and am planning to release 1.0 soon. It would be nice to have some translations for a 1.0 app, so it would be cool, if anyone had time and/or feels like to contribute... I have already done the translation to german myself, and english is of course default. Thanks for listening, J=F6rgen --=20 There are two major products that come from Berkeley : LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. Jeremy S. Anderson From menthos@menthos.com Wed Dec 12 12:23:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from igloo.df.lth.se (igloo.df.lth.se [194.47.250.47]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB0E1822A for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 12:23:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from daim (E405.sparta.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by igloo.df.lth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA15508; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:23:49 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: translations for gnomeradio (http://mfcn.ilo.de/gnomeradio) From: Christian Rose To: Joergen Scheibengruber Cc: gnome-i18n@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1008176605.8006.2.camel@planetarena> References: <1008176605.8006.2.camel@planetarena> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 12 Dec 2001 18:23:13 +0100 Message-Id: <1008177793.21631.13.camel@daim.menthos.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: ons 2001-12-12 klockan 18.03 skrev Joergen Scheibengruber: > Hi! >=20 > I'm the developer of gnomeradio (http://mfcn.ilo.de/gnomeradio - a fm > tuner app). It has reached a quite stable state now, and am planning to > release 1.0 soon. It would be nice to have some translations for a 1.0 > app, so it would be cool, if anyone had time and/or feels like to > contribute... I have already done the translation to german myself, and > english is of course default. >=20 > Thanks for listening, > J=F6rgen Hi. Please send the most recent pot file, then we can put the pot file in a directory in GNOME CVS so that all GNOME translators have a place where they can fetch it from and place their translations in, and where you can fetch the translations from. What do you think? Christian From joergen.scheibengruber@informatik.uni-ulm.de Wed Dec 12 12:35:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from mail.informatik.uni-ulm.de (mail.informatik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.68.63]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B631822A for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 12:35:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from [134.60.220.86] (helo=planetarena.wh-hms.uni-ulm.de) by mail.informatik.uni-ulm.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16EDHy-0004rV-00 for gnome-i18n@gnome.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:35:26 +0100 Subject: Re: translations for gnomeradio (http://mfcn.ilo.de/gnomeradio) From: Joergen Scheibengruber To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1008177793.21631.13.camel@daim.menthos.com> References: <1008176605.8006.2.camel@planetarena> <1008177793.21631.13.camel@daim.menthos.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-67yhFHYX3Gz22kFiekz8" X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 12 Dec 2001 18:33:19 +0100 Message-Id: <1008178399.8012.6.camel@planetarena> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-67yhFHYX3Gz22kFiekz8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Mit, 2001-12-12 um 18.23 schrieb Christian Rose: > Hi. > Please send the most recent pot file, then we can put the pot file in a > directory in GNOME CVS so that all GNOME translators have a place where > they can fetch it from and place their translations in, and where you > can fetch the translations from. What do you think? >=20 >=20 > Christian Here it is :-) Greetings, J=F6rgen --=20 There are two major products that come from Berkeley : LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. Jeremy S. Anderson --=-67yhFHYX3Gz22kFiekz8 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=Gnomeradio.pot Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 # SOME DESCRIPTIVE TITLE. # Copyright (C) YEAR Free Software Foundation, Inc. # FIRST AUTHOR , YEAR. # #, fuzzy msgid "" msgstr "" "Project-Id-Version: PACKAGE VERSION\n" "POT-Creation-Date: 2001-12-12 16:59+0100\n" "PO-Revision-Date: YEAR-MO-DA HO:MI+ZONE\n" "Last-Translator: FULL NAME \n" "Language-Team: LANGUAGE \n" "MIME-Version: 1.0\n" "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DCHARSET\n" "Content-Transfer-Encoding: ENCODING\n" #: src/prefs.c:439 msgid "Gnomeradio Settings" msgstr "" #: src/prefs.c:441 msgid "Misc Settings" msgstr "" #: src/prefs.c:442 msgid "Presets" msgstr "" #: src/prefs.c:452 msgid "Radio Device:" msgstr "" #: src/prefs.c:460 msgid "Mixer Source:" msgstr "" #: src/prefs.c:474 msgid "Mute on exit?" msgstr "" #: src/prefs.c:498 msgid "Name:" msgstr "" #: src/prefs.c:525 msgid "Frequency:" msgstr "" #: src/prefs.c:570 msgid "Specify the radio-device (in most cases /dev/radio)" msgstr "" #: src/prefs.c:572 msgid "" "Choose the mixer source (line, line1, etc.) that is able to control the " "volume of your radio" msgstr "" #: src/prefs.c:573 msgid "If unchecked, gnomeradio won't mute after exiting" msgstr "" #: src/prefs.c:574 msgid "Start a new preset" msgstr "" #: src/prefs.c:575 msgid "Remove preset from List" msgstr "" #: src/prefs.c:576 msgid "Add the preset to the List" msgstr "" #: src/gui.c:58 #, c-format msgid "" "Could not open device \"%s\" !\n" "\n" "Check your Settings and make sure that no other\n" "program is using %s.\n" "Make also sure that you have read-access to it." msgstr "" #: src/gui.c:77 #, c-format msgid "Mixer source \"%s\" is not a valid source!" msgstr "" #: src/gui.c:79 #, c-format msgid "Could not open \"%s\"!" msgstr "" #: src/gui.c:184 #, c-format msgid "Gnomeradio - %.2f Mhz" msgstr "" #: src/gui.c:306 msgid "manual" msgstr "" #: src/gui.c:363 src/gui.c:555 msgid "Mute" msgstr "" #: src/gui.c:369 msgid "Unmute" msgstr "" #: src/gui.c:379 msgid "" "Yet another Gnome FM-Tuner. But this one is the best ;-)\n" "(Hopefully) works with all FM-Tunercards supported by video4linux." msgstr "" #: src/gui.c:405 msgid "Gnomeradio" msgstr "" #: src/gui.c:454 msgid "Presets:" msgstr "" #: src/gui.c:549 msgid "Scan Backwards" msgstr "" #: src/gui.c:550 msgid "Scan Forwards" msgstr "" #: src/gui.c:551 msgid "0.05 Mhz Backwards" msgstr "" #: src/gui.c:552 msgid "0.05 Mhz Forwards" msgstr "" #: src/gui.c:553 msgid "About Gnomeradio" msgstr "" #: src/gui.c:554 msgid "Edit your Preferences" msgstr "" #: src/gui.c:556 msgid "Quit" msgstr "" #: src/gui.c:557 msgid "Choose your frequency" msgstr "" #: src/gui.c:558 msgid "Change the Volume" msgstr "" #: src/gui.c:590 msgid "Could not start lirc" msgstr "" --=-67yhFHYX3Gz22kFiekz8-- From carlos@gnome-db.org Wed Dec 12 12:41:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from gollum.gnome-db.org (unknown [213.96.77.61]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AEEF190F8 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 12:41:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from Bilbo.gnome-db.org (BilBo.gnome-db.org [192.168.1.3]) by gollum.gnome-db.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13927F65; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:42:21 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: translations for gnomeradio (http://mfcn.ilo.de/gnomeradio) From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= To: Joergen Scheibengruber Cc: GNOME i18n list In-Reply-To: <1008178399.8012.6.camel@planetarena> References: <1008176605.8006.2.camel@planetarena> <1008177793.21631.13.camel@daim.menthos.com> <1008178399.8012.6.camel@planetarena> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-7axpc4WLMUHbfcNHoZRb" X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 12 Dec 2001 18:42:20 +0100 Message-Id: <1008178940.10932.24.camel@Bilbo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-7axpc4WLMUHbfcNHoZRb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El mi=E9, 12-12-2001 a las 18:33, Joergen Scheibengruber escribi=F3: > Am Mit, 2001-12-12 um 18.23 schrieb Christian Rose: > > Hi. > > Please send the most recent pot file, then we can put the pot file in a > > directory in GNOME CVS so that all GNOME translators have a place where > > they can fetch it from and place their translations in, and where you > > can fetch the translations from. What do you think? > >=20 > >=20 > > Christian >=20 > Here it is :-) >=20 If you want that the status pages show the stats for all the translations for your application you should also send us all .po files you have (I think that you only have de.po). Bye > Greetings, > J=F6rgen >=20 > --=20 > There are two major products that come from Berkeley : LSD and UNIX. We > don't believe this to be a coincidence. >=20 > Jeremy S. Anderson --=20 Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn mailto:carlos@gnome-db.org mailto:carlos.perello@hispalinux.es http://www.gnome-db.org http://www.Hispalinux.es Valencia - Spain --=-7axpc4WLMUHbfcNHoZRb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8F5b8EuPMamD5V9cRAi6mAJ0e5zex1Rjaj4blanZqXAQ6E3vkUQCdHkQ8 6V3QDXRUCghYcV/oTgFJK2w= =Bgcl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-7axpc4WLMUHbfcNHoZRb-- From joergen.scheibengruber@informatik.uni-ulm.de Wed Dec 12 12:57:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from mail.informatik.uni-ulm.de (mail.informatik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.68.63]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1387187B0 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 12:57:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from [134.60.220.86] (helo=planetarena.wh-hms.uni-ulm.de) by mail.informatik.uni-ulm.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16EDd8-00058I-00 for gnome-i18n@gnome.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:57:18 +0100 Subject: Re: translations for gnomeradio (http://mfcn.ilo.de/gnomeradio) From: Joergen Scheibengruber To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1008179038.21630.20.camel@daim.menthos.com> References: <1008176605.8006.2.camel@planetarena> <1008177793.21631.13.camel@daim.menthos.com> <1008178399.8012.6.camel@planetarena> <1008179038.21630.20.camel@daim.menthos.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-6nzSYPV8tKD4zo4Iven7" X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 12 Dec 2001 18:55:10 +0100 Message-Id: <1008179711.8012.12.camel@planetarena> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-6nzSYPV8tKD4zo4Iven7 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Am Mit, 2001-12-12 um 18.43 schrieb Christian Rose: > ons 2001-12-12 klockan 18.33 skrev Joergen Scheibengruber: > > > Please send the most recent pot file, then we can put the pot file in a > > > directory in GNOME CVS so that all GNOME translators have a place where > > > they can fetch it from and place their translations in, and where you > > > can fetch the translations from. What do you think? > > > > Here it is :-) > > Thanks, I will put it in. You said there was an existing German > translation? Then we can place it too in the CVS so that noone does a > new German translation by accident. > > > Christian > I have already received a turkish translation :-) So here are they, the german and the turkish. I also included a Changelog, so that every author can add himself, and the .desktop file. -- There are two major products that come from Berkeley : LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. Jeremy S. Anderson --=-6nzSYPV8tKD4zo4Iven7 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=tr.po Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 # SOME DESCRIPTIVE TITLE. # Copyright (C) YEAR Free Software Foundation, Inc. # G=F6rkem =C7etin , 2001 # msgid "" msgstr "" "Project-Id-Version: gnomeradio\n" "POT-Creation-Date: 2001-10-20 13:09+0200\n" "PO-Revision-Date: 2001-10-20 13:09+0200\n" "Last-Translator: G=F6rkem =C7etin \n" "Language-Team: Turkish \n" "MIME-Version: 1.0\n" "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-9\n" "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8-bit\n" #: src/prefs.c:341 msgid "Gnomeradio Settings" msgstr "Gnomeradio Ayarlar=FD" #: src/prefs.c:343 msgid "Misc Settings" msgstr "=C7e=FEitli Ayarlar" #: src/prefs.c:344 msgid "Presets" msgstr "Kanallar" #: src/prefs.c:354 msgid "Radio Device:" msgstr "Radyo Ayg=FDt=FD:" #: src/prefs.c:385 msgid "Mixer Source:" msgstr "Kar=FD=FEt=FDr=FDc=FD Kayna=F0=FD:" #: src/prefs.c:360 msgid "Mute on exit?" msgstr "=C7=FDk=FD=FEta sessiz olsun" #: src/prefs.c:383 msgid "Name:" msgstr "=DDsim:" #: src/prefs.c:410 msgid "Frequency:" msgstr "Frekans:" #: src/prefs.c:449 msgid "Specify the radio-device (in most cases /dev/radio)" msgstr "Radyo ayg=FDt=FDn=FD verin (genellikle /dev/radio)" #: src/prefs.c:484 msgid "" "Specify the mixer source (line, line1, etc.) that is able to control the " "volume of your radio" msgstr "" "Radyonun sesini y=F6neten kar=FD=FEt=FDr=FDc=FD ayg=FDt=FDn=FD verin (line= , line1 vb) " #: src/prefs.c:450 msgid "If unchecked, gnomeradio won't mute after exiting" msgstr "E=F0er t=FDklan=FDrsa, gnomeradio =E7=FDk=FD=FEta sesi k=FDsmayacak= t=FDr" #: src/prefs.c:451 msgid "Start a new preset" msgstr "Yeni bir kanal a=E7" #: src/prefs.c:452 msgid "Remove preset from List" msgstr "Kanal=FD listeden sil" #: src/prefs.c:453 msgid "Add the preset to the List" msgstr "Kanal=FD listeye kaydet" #: src/gui.c:54 #, c-format msgid "" "Could not open device \"%s\" !\n" "\n" "Check your Settings and make sure that no other\n" "program is using %s.\n" "Make also sure that you have read-access to it." msgstr "" "\"%s\" ayg=FDt=FD a=E7=FDlamad=FD !\n" "\n" "Ayarlar=FDn=FDz=FD kontrol edin ve %s ayg=FDt=FDn=FD ba=FEka\n" "bir program=FDn kullanmad=FD=F0=FDna emin olun.\n" "(Bu ayg=FDta okuma eri=FEiminiz var m=FD?" #: src/gui.c:77 #, c-format msgid "Mixer source \"%s\" is not a valid source!" msgstr "\"%s\" kar=FD=FEt=FDr=FDc=FDs=FD ge=E7ersiz" #: src/gui.c:79 #, c-format msgid "Could not open \"%s\"!" msgstr "\"%s\" a=E7=FDlamad=FD!" #: src/gui.c:132 #, c-format msgid "Gnomeradio - %.2f Mhz" msgstr "Gnomeradio - %.2f Mhz" #: src/gui.c:227 msgid "manual" msgstr "elle" #: src/gui.c:276 src/gui.c:448 msgid "Mute" msgstr "Sesi kapat" #: src/gui.c:282 msgid "Unmute" msgstr "Sesi a=E7" #: src/gui.c:292 msgid "" "Yet another Gnome FM-Tuner. But this one is the best ;-)\n" "(Hopefully) works with all FM-Tunercards supported by video4linux." msgstr "" "GNOME FM Tuner program=FD. Video4linux taraf=FDndan desteklenen t=FCm " "FM Tuner kartlar=FDnda =E7al=FD=FE=FDr." #: src/gui.c:317 msgid "Gnomeradio" msgstr "Gnomeradio" #: src/gui.c:367 msgid "Presets:" msgstr "Sender:" #: src/gui.c:442 msgid "Scan Backwards" msgstr "Geri Tara" #: src/gui.c:443 msgid "Scan Forwards" msgstr "=DDleri Tara" #: src/gui.c:444 msgid "0.05 Mhz Backwards" msgstr "0.05 Mhz Geri" #: src/gui.c:445 msgid "0.05 Mhz Forwards" msgstr "0.05 Mhz =DDleri" #: src/gui.c:446 msgid "About Gnomeradio" msgstr "Gnomeradio hakk=FDnda" #: src/gui.c:447 msgid "Edit your Preferences" msgstr "Tercihleri D=FCzenle" #: src/gui.c:449 msgid "Quit" msgstr "=C7=FDk" #: src/gui.c:450 msgid "Choose your frequency" msgstr "Frekans=FD se=E7in" #: src/gui.c:480 msgid "Could not start lirc" msgstr "Lirc ba=FElat=FDlamad=FD" --=-6nzSYPV8tKD4zo4Iven7 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=tr.po Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 # SOME DESCRIPTIVE TITLE. # Copyright (C) YEAR Free Software Foundation, Inc. # G=F6rkem =C7etin , 2001 # msgid "" msgstr "" "Project-Id-Version: gnomeradio\n" "POT-Creation-Date: 2001-10-20 13:09+0200\n" "PO-Revision-Date: 2001-10-20 13:09+0200\n" "Last-Translator: G=F6rkem =C7etin \n" "Language-Team: Turkish \n" "MIME-Version: 1.0\n" "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-9\n" "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8-bit\n" #: src/prefs.c:341 msgid "Gnomeradio Settings" msgstr "Gnomeradio Ayarlar=FD" #: src/prefs.c:343 msgid "Misc Settings" msgstr "=C7e=FEitli Ayarlar" #: src/prefs.c:344 msgid "Presets" msgstr "Kanallar" #: src/prefs.c:354 msgid "Radio Device:" msgstr "Radyo Ayg=FDt=FD:" #: src/prefs.c:385 msgid "Mixer Source:" msgstr "Kar=FD=FEt=FDr=FDc=FD Kayna=F0=FD:" #: src/prefs.c:360 msgid "Mute on exit?" msgstr "=C7=FDk=FD=FEta sessiz olsun" #: src/prefs.c:383 msgid "Name:" msgstr "=DDsim:" #: src/prefs.c:410 msgid "Frequency:" msgstr "Frekans:" #: src/prefs.c:449 msgid "Specify the radio-device (in most cases /dev/radio)" msgstr "Radyo ayg=FDt=FDn=FD verin (genellikle /dev/radio)" #: src/prefs.c:484 msgid "" "Specify the mixer source (line, line1, etc.) that is able to control the " "volume of your radio" msgstr "" "Radyonun sesini y=F6neten kar=FD=FEt=FDr=FDc=FD ayg=FDt=FDn=FD verin (line= , line1 vb) " #: src/prefs.c:450 msgid "If unchecked, gnomeradio won't mute after exiting" msgstr "E=F0er t=FDklan=FDrsa, gnomeradio =E7=FDk=FD=FEta sesi k=FDsmayacak= t=FDr" #: src/prefs.c:451 msgid "Start a new preset" msgstr "Yeni bir kanal a=E7" #: src/prefs.c:452 msgid "Remove preset from List" msgstr "Kanal=FD listeden sil" #: src/prefs.c:453 msgid "Add the preset to the List" msgstr "Kanal=FD listeye kaydet" #: src/gui.c:54 #, c-format msgid "" "Could not open device \"%s\" !\n" "\n" "Check your Settings and make sure that no other\n" "program is using %s.\n" "Make also sure that you have read-access to it." msgstr "" "\"%s\" ayg=FDt=FD a=E7=FDlamad=FD !\n" "\n" "Ayarlar=FDn=FDz=FD kontrol edin ve %s ayg=FDt=FDn=FD ba=FEka\n" "bir program=FDn kullanmad=FD=F0=FDna emin olun.\n" "(Bu ayg=FDta okuma eri=FEiminiz var m=FD?" #: src/gui.c:77 #, c-format msgid "Mixer source \"%s\" is not a valid source!" msgstr "\"%s\" kar=FD=FEt=FDr=FDc=FDs=FD ge=E7ersiz" #: src/gui.c:79 #, c-format msgid "Could not open \"%s\"!" msgstr "\"%s\" a=E7=FDlamad=FD!" #: src/gui.c:132 #, c-format msgid "Gnomeradio - %.2f Mhz" msgstr "Gnomeradio - %.2f Mhz" #: src/gui.c:227 msgid "manual" msgstr "elle" #: src/gui.c:276 src/gui.c:448 msgid "Mute" msgstr "Sesi kapat" #: src/gui.c:282 msgid "Unmute" msgstr "Sesi a=E7" #: src/gui.c:292 msgid "" "Yet another Gnome FM-Tuner. But this one is the best ;-)\n" "(Hopefully) works with all FM-Tunercards supported by video4linux." msgstr "" "GNOME FM Tuner program=FD. Video4linux taraf=FDndan desteklenen t=FCm " "FM Tuner kartlar=FDnda =E7al=FD=FE=FDr." #: src/gui.c:317 msgid "Gnomeradio" msgstr "Gnomeradio" #: src/gui.c:367 msgid "Presets:" msgstr "Sender:" #: src/gui.c:442 msgid "Scan Backwards" msgstr "Geri Tara" #: src/gui.c:443 msgid "Scan Forwards" msgstr "=DDleri Tara" #: src/gui.c:444 msgid "0.05 Mhz Backwards" msgstr "0.05 Mhz Geri" #: src/gui.c:445 msgid "0.05 Mhz Forwards" msgstr "0.05 Mhz =DDleri" #: src/gui.c:446 msgid "About Gnomeradio" msgstr "Gnomeradio hakk=FDnda" #: src/gui.c:447 msgid "Edit your Preferences" msgstr "Tercihleri D=FCzenle" #: src/gui.c:449 msgid "Quit" msgstr "=C7=FDk" #: src/gui.c:450 msgid "Choose your frequency" msgstr "Frekans=FD se=E7in" #: src/gui.c:480 msgid "Could not start lirc" msgstr "Lirc ba=FElat=FDlamad=FD" --=-6nzSYPV8tKD4zo4Iven7 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=ChangeLog Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 12.12.01: * tr.po: New file: Thanks to Gorkem Cetin :-) 20.10.01:=20 * de.po: New file --=-6nzSYPV8tKD4zo4Iven7 Content-Type: application/x-gnome-app-info Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=gnomeradio.desktop Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 W0Rlc2t0b3AgRW50cnldCk5hbWU9R25vbWVyYWRpbwpOYW1lW2RlXT1Hbm9tZSBSYWRpbwpDb21t ZW50PUEgR25vbWUgRk0tVHVuZXIKQ29tbWVudFtkZV09RWluIEdub21lIEZNLVJhZGlvIFByb2dy YW1tCkV4ZWM9Z25vbWVyYWRpbwpJY29uPXJhZGlvLnBuZwpUZXJtaW5hbD0wClR5cGU9QXBwbGlj YXRpb24K --=-6nzSYPV8tKD4zo4Iven7-- From joergen.scheibengruber@informatik.uni-ulm.de Wed Dec 12 13:08:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from mail.informatik.uni-ulm.de (mail.informatik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.68.63]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DBB187B0 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:08:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from [134.60.220.86] (helo=planetarena.wh-hms.uni-ulm.de) by mail.informatik.uni-ulm.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16EDoJ-0005G0-00 for gnome-i18n@gnome.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 19:08:51 +0100 Subject: Oops, that was 2x the turkish an no german From: Joergen Scheibengruber To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1008179711.8012.12.camel@planetarena> References: <1008176605.8006.2.camel@planetarena> <1008177793.21631.13.camel@daim.menthos.com> <1008178399.8012.6.camel@planetarena> <1008179038.21630.20.camel@daim.menthos.com> <1008179711.8012.12.camel@planetarena> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-y3gS7qOFnzT/yTCpkouw" X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 12 Dec 2001 19:06:42 +0100 Message-Id: <1008180404.8012.16.camel@planetarena> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-y3gS7qOFnzT/yTCpkouw Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So here is the german translation... -- There are two major products that come from Berkeley : LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. Jeremy S. Anderson --=-y3gS7qOFnzT/yTCpkouw Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=de.po Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 # SOME DESCRIPTIVE TITLE. # Copyright (C) YEAR Free Software Foundation, Inc. # FIRST AUTHOR , YEAR. # #, fuzzy msgid "" msgstr "" "Project-Id-Version: PACKAGE VERSION\n" "POT-Creation-Date: 2001-10-20 13:09+0200\n" "PO-Revision-Date: YEAR-MO-DA HO:MI+ZONE\n" "Last-Translator: FULL NAME \n" "Language-Team: LANGUAGE \n" "MIME-Version: 1.0\n" "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DCHARSET\n" "Content-Transfer-Encoding: ENCODING\n" #: src/prefs.c:341 msgid "Gnomeradio Settings" msgstr "Gnomeradio Einstellungen" #: src/prefs.c:343 msgid "Misc Settings" msgstr "Diverse Einstellungen" #: src/prefs.c:344 msgid "Presets" msgstr "Sender" #: src/prefs.c:354 msgid "Radio Device:" msgstr "" #: src/prefs.c:385 msgid "Mixer Source:" msgstr "Mixer Quelle:" #: src/prefs.c:360 msgid "Mute on exit?" msgstr "Ton aus beim Beenden?" #: src/prefs.c:383 msgid "Name:" msgstr "" #: src/prefs.c:410 msgid "Frequency:" msgstr "Frequenz:" #: src/prefs.c:449 msgid "Specify the radio-device (in most cases /dev/radio)" msgstr "Geben Sie das Radio-device an (meistens /dev/radio)" #: src/prefs.c:509 msgid "" "Choose the mixer source (line, line1, etc.) that is able to control the " "volume of your radio" msgstr "Geben Sie die Mixerquelle (line, line1, etc.) an, die in der Lage i= st die Lautst=E4rke des Radios zu kontrollieren" #: src/prefs.c:450 msgid "If unchecked, gnomeradio won't mute after exiting" msgstr "Wenn nicht ausgew=E4hlt, l=E4uft der Ton nach Beenden weiter" #: src/prefs.c:451 msgid "Start a new preset" msgstr "Einen neuen Sender starten" #: src/prefs.c:452 msgid "Remove preset from List" msgstr "Den Sender aus der Liste entfernen" #: src/prefs.c:453 msgid "Add the preset to the List" msgstr "Den Sender zur Listen hinzuf=FCgen" #: src/gui.c:54 #, c-format msgid "" "Could not open device \"%s\" !\n" "\n" "Check your Settings and make sure that no other\n" "program is using %s.\n" "Make also sure that you have read-access to it." msgstr "Konnte Device \"%s\" nicht =F6ffnen!\n" "\n" "=DCberpr=FCfen Sie Ihre Einstellungen und stellen sie sicher,\n" "da=DF kein anderes Programm auf %s zugreift.\n" "=DCberpr=FCfen Sie auch, ob Sie Schreibzugriff auf das Device haben." #: src/gui.c:77 #, c-format msgid "Mixer source \"%s\" is not a valid source!" msgstr "Die Mixerquelle \"%s\" ist keine g=FCltige Quelle!" #: src/gui.c:79 #, c-format msgid "Could not open \"%s\"!" msgstr "Konnte \"%s\" nicht =F6ffnen!" #: src/gui.c:132 #, c-format msgid "Gnomeradio - %.2f Mhz" msgstr "" #: src/gui.c:227 msgid "manual" msgstr "manuell" #: src/gui.c:276 src/gui.c:448 msgid "Mute" msgstr "Ton aus" #: src/gui.c:282 msgid "Unmute" msgstr "Ton an" #: src/gui.c:292 msgid "" "Yet another Gnome FM-Tuner. But this one is the best ;-)\n" "(Hopefully) works with all FM-Tunercards supported by video4linux." msgstr "Noch ein weiteres Gnome FM-Radioprogramm. Aber dieses " "hier ist das beste ;-)\n" "Funktioniert (hoffentlich) mit allen FM-Radiokarten, die von" " video4linux unterst=FCtzt werden." #: src/gui.c:317 msgid "Gnomeradio" msgstr "" #: src/gui.c:367 msgid "Presets:" msgstr "Sender:" #: src/gui.c:442 msgid "Scan Backwards" msgstr "R=FCckw=E4rts Scannen" #: src/gui.c:443 msgid "Scan Forwards" msgstr "Vorw=E4rts Scannen" #: src/gui.c:444 msgid "0.05 Mhz Backwards" msgstr "0.05 Mhz Zur=FCck" #: src/gui.c:445 msgid "0.05 Mhz Forwards" msgstr "0.05 Mhz Vor" #: src/gui.c:446 msgid "About Gnomeradio" msgstr "=DCber Gnomeradio" #: src/gui.c:447 msgid "Edit your Preferences" msgstr "Bearbeiten Sie Ihre Einstellungen" #: src/gui.c:449 msgid "Quit" msgstr "Beenden" #: src/gui.c:450 msgid "Choose your frequency" msgstr "W=E4hlen Sie ihre Frequenz" #: src/gui.c:533 msgid "Change the Volume" msgstr "=C4ndern Sie die Lautst=E4rke" #: src/gui.c:480 msgid "Could not start lirc" msgstr "Konnte lirc nicht starten" --=-y3gS7qOFnzT/yTCpkouw-- From menthos@menthos.com Wed Dec 12 13:17:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from igloo.df.lth.se (igloo.df.lth.se [194.47.250.47]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D29189F0 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:17:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from daim (E405.sparta.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by igloo.df.lth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA18743; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 19:18:01 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: translations for gnomeradio (http://mfcn.ilo.de/gnomeradio) From: Christian Rose To: Joergen Scheibengruber Cc: gnome-i18n@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1008179711.8012.12.camel@planetarena> References: <1008176605.8006.2.camel@planetarena> <1008177793.21631.13.camel@daim.menthos.com> <1008178399.8012.6.camel@planetarena> <1008179038.21630.20.camel@daim.menthos.com> <1008179711.8012.12.camel@planetarena> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 12 Dec 2001 19:17:25 +0100 Message-Id: <1008181045.21630.22.camel@daim.menthos.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: ons 2001-12-12 klockan 18.55 skrev Joergen Scheibengruber: > I have already received a turkish translation :-) > > So here are they, the german and the turkish. I also included a > Changelog, so that every author can add himself, and the .desktop file. Thanks, I added the Turkish translation, and a Swedish one (thanks Gudmund!). Regarding the ChangeLog, I think it's the cleanest if we use a seperate one in GNOME CVS. Regarding the *.desktop file, if you add intltool support to Gnomeradio, it won't be needed in GNOME CVS, so I don't know if we should add the desktop file. You can now find the Gnomeradio translation files in GNOME CVS (instructions on http://developer.gnome.org/tools/cvs.html). The module is "gnome-i18n" and the directory is extra-po/gnomeradio/. Christian From menthos@menthos.com Wed Dec 12 13:29:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from igloo.df.lth.se (igloo.df.lth.se [194.47.250.47]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70D318361 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:29:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from daim (E405.sparta.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by igloo.df.lth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA19579; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 19:30:00 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: Oops, that was 2x the turkish an no german From: Christian Rose To: Joergen Scheibengruber Cc: gnome-i18n@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1008180404.8012.16.camel@planetarena> References: <1008176605.8006.2.camel@planetarena> <1008177793.21631.13.camel@daim.menthos.com> <1008178399.8012.6.camel@planetarena> <1008179038.21630.20.camel@daim.menthos.com> <1008179711.8012.12.camel@planetarena> <1008180404.8012.16.camel@planetarena> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-7zHiuuRIhSgi7j44LFn4" X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 12 Dec 2001 19:29:24 +0100 Message-Id: <1008181764.21630.24.camel@daim.menthos.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-7zHiuuRIhSgi7j44LFn4 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ons 2001-12-12 klockan 19.06 skrev Joergen Scheibengruber: > So here is the german translation... The German po file was syntactically invalid (fuzzy header, and the defaults of all header values unchanged) and did not pass any msgfmt tests, so I had to make it valid first. I'm attaching a podiff that lists the changes (G = old removed line, N = new line). I hope you approve those changes. You can find the new file in GNOME CVS. Christian --=-7zHiuuRIhSgi7j44LFn4 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=de.po.diff Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 # German messages for Gnomeradio. # Copyright (C) 2001 Free Software Foundation, Inc. # Joergen Scheibengruber , = 2001. # msgid "" msgstr "" G "Project-Id-Version: PACKAGE VERSION\n" G "POT-Creation-Date: 2001-10-20 13:09+0200\n" G "PO-Revision-Date: YEAR-MO-DA HO:MI+ZONE\n" G "Last-Translator: FULL NAME \n" G "Language-Team: LANGUAGE \n" N "Project-Id-Version: gnomeradio\n" N "POT-Creation-Date: 2001-12-12 16:59+0100\n" N "PO-Revision-Date: 2001-12-12 19:22+0100\n" N "Last-Translator: Joergen Scheibengruber \n" N "Language-Team: German \n" "MIME-Version: 1.0\n" G "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DCHARSET\n" G "Content-Transfer-Encoding: ENCODING\n" N "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1\n" N "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n" =20 =20 #: src/prefs.c:572 msgid "" "Choose the mixer source (line, line1, etc.) that is able to control the = " "volume of your radio" G msgstr "Geben Sie die Mixerquelle (line, line1, etc.) an, die in der Lage= ist die Lautst=E4rke des Radios zu kontrollieren" G=20 N msgstr "" N "Geben Sie die Mixerquelle (line, line1, etc.) an, die in der Lage ist di= e " N "Lautst=E4rke des Radios zu kontrollieren" =20 =20 #: src/gui.c:58 #, c-format msgid "" "Could not open device \"%s\" !\n" "\n" "Check your Settings and make sure that no other\n" "program is using %s.\n" "Make also sure that you have read-access to it." G msgstr "Konnte Device \"%s\" nicht =F6ffnen!\n" N msgstr "" N "Konnte Device \"%s\" nicht =F6ffnen!\n" "\n" "=DCberpr=FCfen Sie Ihre Einstellungen und stellen sie sicher,\n" "da=DF kein anderes Programm auf %s zugreift.\n" "=DCberpr=FCfen Sie auch, ob Sie Schreibzugriff auf das Device haben." =20 =20 #: src/gui.c:379 msgid "" "Yet another Gnome FM-Tuner. But this one is the best ;-)\n" "(Hopefully) works with all FM-Tunercards supported by video4linux." G msgstr "Noch ein weiteres Gnome FM-Radioprogramm. Aber dieses " G "hier ist das beste ;-)\n" G "Funktioniert (hoffentlich) mit allen FM-Radiokarten, die von" G " video4linux unterst=FCtzt werden." N msgstr "" N "Noch ein weiteres Gnome FM-Radioprogramm. Aber dieses hier ist das " N "beste ;-)\n" N "Funktioniert (hoffentlich) mit allen FM-Radiokarten, die von video4linux= " N "unterst=FCtzt werden." --=-7zHiuuRIhSgi7j44LFn4-- From lark@linux.net.cn Thu Dec 13 09:42:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from mx.linux.net.cn (unknown [210.52.24.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1661F1820A for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:42:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from lark.marsec.net (unknown [202.106.24.93]) by mx.linux.net.cn (Postfix) with ESMTP id D645AA6B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 22:42:06 +0800 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 22:42:59 +0800 From: Wang Jian X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) Reply-To: Wang Jian X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <145534100876.20011213224259@linux.net.cn> To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Subject: pan pot generation problem -- or my system 's problem? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello, See configure.in AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(AC_PACKAGE_NAME,AC_PACKAGE_VERSION) And in pan/po, intltool-update -P generates "AC_PACKAGE_NAME.pot" Anybody gives me a hint? or fix the problem? -- lark From carlos@gnome-db.org Thu Dec 13 10:07:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from gollum.gnome-db.org (unknown [213.96.77.61]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0914A183CA for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 10:07:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from Bilbo.gnome-db.org (BilBo.gnome-db.org [192.168.1.3]) by gollum.gnome-db.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BBDC7F78; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 16:08:52 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: pan pot generation problem -- or my system 's problem? From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= To: Wang Jian Cc: GNOME i18n list In-Reply-To: <145534100876.20011213224259@linux.net.cn> References: <145534100876.20011213224259@linux.net.cn> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-/YUpX/E7cdUM2shcRJIU" X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 13 Dec 2001 16:08:50 +0100 Message-Id: <1008256131.3299.4.camel@Bilbo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-/YUpX/E7cdUM2shcRJIU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El jue, 13-12-2001 a las 15:42, Wang Jian escribi=F3: > Hello, >=20 > See configure.in >=20 > AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(AC_PACKAGE_NAME,AC_PACKAGE_VERSION) >=20 >=20 > And in pan/po, intltool-update -P generates "AC_PACKAGE_NAME.pot" >=20 > Anybody gives me a hint? or fix the problem? >=20 You could see this bug at: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D66155 But it should not be a problem: mv AC_PACKAGE_NAME.pot pan.pot ;-) > --=20 > lark >=20 > _______________________________________________ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n --=20 Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn mailto:carlos@gnome-db.org mailto:carlos.perello@hispalinux.es http://www.gnome-db.org http://www.Hispalinux.es Valencia - Spain --=-/YUpX/E7cdUM2shcRJIU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8GMSCEuPMamD5V9cRAgzpAJ9pTq9XRIW1OTSfgUtYSfvy+AeQjACdEtZF hfTMJmiXstWEZaxE2tDO2Jw= =/p2j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-/YUpX/E7cdUM2shcRJIU-- From lark@linux.net.cn Thu Dec 13 10:21:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from mx.linux.net.cn (unknown [210.52.24.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 163B8180F6 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 10:21:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from lark.marsec.net (unknown [202.106.24.93]) by mx.linux.net.cn (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE0E14AF for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 23:20:22 +0800 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 23:21:18 +0800 From: Wang Jian X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) Reply-To: Wang Jian X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <111536400242.20011213232118@linux.net.cn> To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Subject: Re[2]: pan pot generation problem -- or my system 's problem? In-Reply-To: <1008256131.3299.4.camel@Bilbo> References: <145534100876.20011213224259@linux.net.cn> <1008256131.3299.4.camel@Bilbo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello Carlos, My status page script generates .pot files, then merge .po with .pot into a new file for download. The little bug makes my code unneccessarily doubled. I do wish that we pay much attention to these 'little bugs'. Thursday, December 13, 2001, 11:08:50 PM, you wrote: CPM> El jue, 13-12-2001 a las 15:42, Wang Jian escribió: >> Hello, >> >> See configure.in >> >> AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(AC_PACKAGE_NAME,AC_PACKAGE_VERSION) >> >> >> And in pan/po, intltool-update -P generates "AC_PACKAGE_NAME.pot" >> >> Anybody gives me a hint? or fix the problem? >> CPM> You could see this bug at: CPM> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66155 CPM> But it should not be a problem: CPM> mv AC_PACKAGE_NAME.pot pan.pot ;-) >> -- >> lark >> >> _______________________________________________ >> gnome-i18n mailing list >> gnome-i18n@gnome.org >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n -- lark From carlos@gnome-db.org Thu Dec 13 10:29:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from gollum.gnome-db.org (unknown [213.96.77.61]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D678E18379 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 10:29:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from Bilbo.gnome-db.org (BilBo.gnome-db.org [192.168.1.3]) by gollum.gnome-db.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357CD7F78 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 16:30:28 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Re[2]: pan pot generation problem -- or my system 's problem? From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= To: GNOME i18n list In-Reply-To: <111536400242.20011213232118@linux.net.cn> References: <145534100876.20011213224259@linux.net.cn> <1008256131.3299.4.camel@Bilbo> <111536400242.20011213232118@linux.net.cn> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-L6GVRmKUTAqKbAzk/L7G" X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 13 Dec 2001 16:30:26 +0100 Message-Id: <1008257427.3299.9.camel@Bilbo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-L6GVRmKUTAqKbAzk/L7G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El jue, 13-12-2001 a las 16:21, Wang Jian escribi=F3: > Hello Carlos, >=20 Hi > My status page script generates .pot files, then merge .po with > .pot into a new file for download. The GNOME ones have also this bug. >=20 > The little bug makes my code unneccessarily doubled. Me too. The bug I have send here was filled after see this problem at status pages :-) >=20 > I do wish that we pay much attention to these 'little bugs'. Yo have similar bugs like this one. You could see them at the bug report. The easy "fix" could be modify the configure.in file. Bye >=20 >=20 > Thursday, December 13, 2001, 11:08:50 PM, you wrote: >=20 > CPM> El jue, 13-12-2001 a las 15:42, Wang Jian escribi=F3: > >> Hello, > >>=20 > >> See configure.in > >>=20 > >> AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(AC_PACKAGE_NAME,AC_PACKAGE_VERSION) > >>=20 > >>=20 > >> And in pan/po, intltool-update -P generates "AC_PACKAGE_NAME.pot" > >>=20 > >> Anybody gives me a hint? or fix the problem? > >>=20 >=20 > CPM> You could see this bug at: > CPM> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D66155 >=20 > CPM> But it should not be a problem: >=20 > CPM> mv AC_PACKAGE_NAME.pot pan.pot ;-) >=20 >=20 >=20 > >> --=20 > >> lark > >>=20 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> gnome-i18n mailing list > >> gnome-i18n@gnome.org > >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > lark >=20 > _______________________________________________ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n --=20 Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn mailto:carlos@gnome-db.org mailto:carlos.perello@hispalinux.es http://www.gnome-db.org http://www.Hispalinux.es Valencia - Spain --=-L6GVRmKUTAqKbAzk/L7G Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8GMmSEuPMamD5V9cRApTQAJ9P4WWZ5+Ws6iKN0Yx230pYgVfW7wCcDzPe crp4bmRI/G80u7Ro7KoGg58= =v+RG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-L6GVRmKUTAqKbAzk/L7G-- From lark@linux.net.cn Thu Dec 13 10:40:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from mx.linux.net.cn (unknown [210.52.24.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4F718197 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 10:40:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from lark.marsec.net (unknown [202.106.24.93]) by mx.linux.net.cn (Postfix) with ESMTP id 124F214AF; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 23:40:12 +0800 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 23:41:07 +0800 From: Wang Jian X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) Reply-To: Wang Jian X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <194537589422.20011213234107@linux.net.cn> To: =?ISO-8859-1?B?Q2FybG9zIFBlcmVsbPMgTWFy7W4=?= Cc: GNOME i18n list Subject: Re[4]: pan pot generation problem -- or my system 's problem? In-Reply-To: <1008257427.3299.9.camel@Bilbo> References: <145534100876.20011213224259@linux.net.cn> <1008256131.3299.4.camel@Bilbo> <111536400242.20011213232118@linux.net.cn> <1008257427.3299.9.camel@Bilbo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello Carlos, >> >> The little bug makes my code unneccessarily doubled. CPM> Me too. The bug I have send here was filled after see this problem at CPM> status pages :-) >> >> I do wish that we pay much attention to these 'little bugs'. CPM> Yo have similar bugs like this one. You could see them at the bug CPM> report. The easy "fix" could be modify the configure.in file. If the bug is introduced by me, once I know, I fix. The reason I don't fix these bugs of others is that I don't know if I fix a bug with another bug. I assume that others do it purposely. Regards -- lark -- lark From stimming@tuhh.de Sat Dec 15 09:05:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from rztsun.rz.tu-harburg.de (rztsun.rz.tu-harburg.de [134.28.200.14]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57A6181CF for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 09:05:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from there (root@erasmus.rz.tu-harburg.de [134.28.6.100]) by rztsun.rz.tu-harburg.de (8.9.0/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA01821; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 15:05:11 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200112151405.PAA01821@rztsun.rz.tu-harburg.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Christian Stimming To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Subject: New GnuCash minor release coming up tomorrow Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 07:10:24 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: "Dave Peticolas" References: <20010528164358.A23169@gmx.net> <20010528192853.C16537@rap.rap.dk> In-Reply-To: <20010528192853.C16537@rap.rap.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Gnucash-1.6.5 is coming up. Please update your translations, if possible. The 1.6.5 version has a few new features, most notably an Euro Conversion Wizard for the Euro conversion at the end of this year. This wizard introduced ~30 new messages, and that's mostly the only difference in gnucash.pot -- no big translation task. The 1.6.5 version is going to be released tomorrow, Sunday 16th, late night PST (i.e. Monday morning in Europe). I am sorry for this late notification, but as I said, it's not a really big task to translate. If possible, please update the translations. Note that the GnuCash source itself is not on cvs.gnome.org but on cvs.gnucash.org. Also note that we've created a glossary for the accounting terms used in GnuCash. It can be found in the extra-po/gnucash/glossary directory under the name gnc-glossary.txt. Cheers Christian Stimming -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iQCVAwUBPBtZ1mXAi+BfhivFAQFJhwP/T1SW+D63PGa6iqly1KGX/g63nSB+y+HW YGz1defn/EwHLCWHudBqKPbyJcVui/oGkvhqVZUfSm+Aq+3an8D+JsIL4nfC128w ChQrtN46DkEL7GdxkJfi6wH7yedtc8JlOAU4pFKE23r1Hnnh/klSZQsisqa7+rEJ 1xWo7/oP8rs= =wtkd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From matrix_mail@263.net Sun Dec 16 22:57:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from delldb.ctsc.com.cn (unknown [202.109.75.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8896F181DE; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 22:57:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from html (211.162.72.175 [211.162.72.175]) by delldb.ctsc.com.cn with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id YVQMX1ZN; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:55:14 +0800 From: matrix_mail@263.net To: gnome-i18n@it.gnome.org Subject: »¶Ó­¹ºÂòËѱªMatrixµç×ÓÓʼþϵͳ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:56:09 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="GB2312_CHARSET" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Message-Id: <20011217035720.8896F181DE@mail.gnome.org> Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: ²úƷʾ·¶
Ë÷È¡Ïêϸ×ÊÁÏ,Çë»ØÐÅÇë»áshaoyuwheels@263.net,shaoyuwheels@163.com From menthos@menthos.com Mon Dec 17 14:16:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from igloo.df.lth.se (igloo.df.lth.se [194.47.250.47]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A9CB18C80 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:16:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from daim (E405.sparta.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by igloo.df.lth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA06185; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:17:09 +0100 (MET) Subject: Red Carpet 1.2 and translations From: Christian Rose To: "Ximian, Inc." , red-carpet@ximian.com Cc: fejj@ximian.com, gnome-i18n@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 17 Dec 2001 20:16:17 +0100 Message-Id: <1008616578.8168.17.camel@daim.menthos.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi! It seems Red Carpet 1.2 not only still has many i18n problems, but also breaks things that were translated before, so that they are now shown untranslated. This includes a lot of the pages and their captions, like the Summary page for example. What happened? Also, the pot file hasn't been updated since September 18th. Some other i18n bugs taken from: http://bugzilla.ximian.com/buglist.cgi?product=Red+Carpet&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=REOPENED&keywords=i18n Number of available updates string in Red Carpet not transla (http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9904) Navigation bar messages in Red Carpet are not translatable (http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9906) Strings in mirror list in Red Carpet are not translated (http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9907) "Send requests using HTTP 1.0" message in Red Carpet not mar (http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9908) "(C)" in Red Carpet should be marked for translation (http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9909) RC XML strings not i18n'ed (channel names, descriptions, mir (http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9910) Splash screen messages in Red Carpet are not translated (http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9911) "bytes" need localization in Red Carpet (http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13322) Untranslated strings in Red Carpet (http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13323) About dialog messages are not translated (http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17535) Package installation messages are not translated (http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17537) Christian From menthos@menthos.com Mon Dec 17 21:25:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from igloo.df.lth.se (igloo.df.lth.se [194.47.250.47]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56FA018258 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 21:25:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from daim (E405.sparta.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by igloo.df.lth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA26620; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 03:26:03 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: Red Carpet 1.2 and translations From: Christian Rose To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Cc: red-carpet@ximian.com, fejj@ximian.com In-Reply-To: <1008616578.8168.17.camel@daim.menthos.com> References: <1008616578.8168.17.camel@daim.menthos.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 18 Dec 2001 03:25:10 +0100 Message-Id: <1008642311.8151.52.camel@daim.menthos.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: m=E5n 2001-12-17 klockan 20.16 skrev Christian Rose: > It seems Red Carpet 1.2 not only still has many i18n problems, but also > breaks things that were translated before, so that they are now shown > untranslated. This includes a lot of the pages and their captions, like > the Summary page for example. What happened? Joe Shaw fixed these errors promptly (thanks a lot!) and put up a new pot file, and promised to release an 1.2.1 release that incorporates new and updated translations. So now is probably a good time to update Red Carpet translations. The pot file and existing translations are in the module gnome-i18n in the directory extra-po/red-carpet/. Christian From menthos@menthos.com Tue Dec 18 04:37:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from igloo.df.lth.se (igloo.df.lth.se [194.47.250.47]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562571818E for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 04:37:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from daim (E405.sparta.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by igloo.df.lth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11212 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 10:37:57 +0100 (MET) Subject: The many new Evolution messages From: Christian Rose To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 18 Dec 2001 10:37:03 +0100 Message-Id: <1008668224.8174.60.camel@daim.menthos.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Some of you might already have noticed it, but both Evolution branches have grown by not less than ~ 2800 messages the last nights. These are the names of time zones and weather stations, that are by default in Evolution 1.0 only represented as ASCII. I reported them as http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6544 and http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8029, so that they can be localized into the appropriate character set. Thus, if you want to blame someone, blame me. The Evolution authors should only be thanked. I just wanted to make this clear (since if one app grew by several thousand messages one night I know I would panic myself ;). Christian From Utroche@aol.com Tue Dec 18 05:06:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70EC180DE for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 05:06:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from Utroche@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id h.57.39643fe (4461) for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 05:06:42 -0500 (EST) From: Utroche@aol.com Message-ID: <57.39643fe.29506f32@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 05:06:42 EST Subject: I'd like to join/subscribe To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 13 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear Sir / Madam, I am a translator and I would like to join your team. Look forward to hearing from you, yours sincerely, Ursula Troche From menthos@menthos.com Tue Dec 18 05:13:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from igloo.df.lth.se (igloo.df.lth.se [194.47.250.47]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6438F180DE for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 05:13:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from daim (E405.sparta.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by igloo.df.lth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13082; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:14:21 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: I'd like to join/subscribe From: Christian Rose To: Utroche@aol.com Cc: gnome-i18n@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <57.39643fe.29506f32@aol.com> References: <57.39643fe.29506f32@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 18 Dec 2001 11:13:28 +0100 Message-Id: <1008670408.8171.63.camel@daim.menthos.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi! You can subscribe to this list by going to http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n/. Also, you should probably subscribe to the mailing lists of the language teams of the language(s) you wish to translate, or contact the language team's team leader. You can find information on the different teams on http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gtp/teams.html. General information on joining the GNOME Translation Project is at http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gtp/join.html. Thanks! Christian tis 2001-12-18 klockan 11.06 skrev Utroche@aol.com: > Dear Sir / Madam, > > I am a translator and I would like to join your team. > Look forward to hearing from you, > yours sincerely, Ursula Troche > _______________________________________________ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n From menesis@delfi.lt Tue Dec 18 06:15:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from mars.alna.lt (ns.alna.lt [194.176.51.252]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D268B184EE for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 06:15:11 -0500 (EST) Received: FROM jupiter.alna.lt BY mars.alna.lt ; Tue Dec 18 13:15:10 2001 +0200 Received: from lc2000.kaunas.alna.lt ([192.168.193.71]) by jupiter.alna.lt with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:15:09 +0200 Received: from delfi.lt ([192.168.193.213]) by lc2000.kaunas.alna.lt with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:15:08 +0200 Message-ID: <3C1F253C.406@delfi.lt> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:15:08 +0200 From: Gediminas Paulauskas User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.6) Gecko/20011120 X-Accept-Language: lt, en-us, ru, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christian Rose Cc: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Subject: Re: The many new Evolution messages References: <1008668224.8174.60.camel@daim.menthos.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1257; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Dec 2001 11:15:08.0574 (UTC) FILETIME=[4099DBE0:01C187B5] Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Christian Rose wrote: > Some of you might already have noticed it, but both Evolution branches > have grown by not less than ~ 2800 messages the last nights. > > These are the names of time zones and weather stations, that are by > default in Evolution 1.0 only represented as ASCII. I reported them as > http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6544 and > http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8029, so that they can be > localized into the appropriate character set. Thus, if you want to blame > someone, blame me. The Evolution authors should only be thanked. I just > wanted to make this clear (since if one app grew by several thousand > messages one night I know I would panic myself ;). Can this be made into separate pot file? Like gimp has some pot files. These translations are very low priority, and some translators just copy strings which do not need to be translated (so that statistics were 100%). 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I reported them as > > http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6544 and > > http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8029, so that they can be > > localized into the appropriate character set. Thus, if you want to blame > > someone, blame me. The Evolution authors should only be thanked. I just > > wanted to make this clear (since if one app grew by several thousand > > messages one night I know I would panic myself ;). > > Can this be made into separate pot file? Like gimp has some pot files. > These translations are very low priority, and some translators just copy > strings which do not need to be translated (so that statistics were 100%). > It's overkill: Evolution tarball will contain more (in megabytes) > translations than code... Good idea - a seperate module or pot file would probably make sense. I don't know what the Evolution authors think about it though. Christian From altern-os@wanadoo.fr Tue Dec 18 09:13:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from smtprt16.wanadoo.fr (smtprt16.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.183]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9D5181AB for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 09:13:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from citronier.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.222) by smtprt16.wanadoo.fr; 18 Dec 2001 15:13:34 +0100 Received: from wanadoo.fr (217.128.227.235) by citronier.wanadoo.fr; 18 Dec 2001 15:10:58 +0100 Message-ID: <3C1F4E8B.9020608@wanadoo.fr> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:11:23 +0100 From: Benoit ROUSSEAU User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.5 i686; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010610 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Subject: ?? euro help !!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: How I can get the symbol EUR in AbiWord and Gnumeric. I have "Slackware 8" LC_ALL=fr_FR@euro GDM_LANG=fr_FR.ISO-8859-15 That's right ? Thank's for help me !! From majix@sci.fi Tue Dec 18 11:06:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from velli.mail.jippii.net (jakelu.mail.jippii.net [195.197.172.114]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F24518E9E for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:06:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from simpukka (simpukka.saunalahti.fi [195.74.0.20]) by velli.mail.jippii.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3ACBB5EE9 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 18:06:33 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 18:07:14 +0200 (EET) From: Tomas Junnonen X-Sender: majix@simpukka To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Subject: Firestarter 0.8.x Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello, Could someone please check this new pot file into /cvs/gnome/gnome-i18n/extra-po/firestarter/, as I do not have CVS access myself. http://firestarter.sourceforge.net/translators/firestarter.pot We'll be releasing a new (0.8.1) version soon, any and all updated translations are very much appreciated! There's only a few string changes since 0.7.x. Thanks, Tomas From maddog@linuxhall.org Tue Dec 18 11:22:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [202.64.190.63]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02EE1187B0 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:22:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from cm203-168-221-108.hkcable.com.hk ([203.168.221.108] helo=mobile.maddog.lan) by localhost with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16GN0Y-0005kD-00; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 00:22:22 +0800 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 00:22:24 +0800 (HKT) From: "R.I.P. Deaddog" To: Tomas Junnonen Cc: Gnome I18N List Subject: Re: Firestarter 0.8.x In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Tomas Junnonen wrote: > Could someone please check this new pot file into > /cvs/gnome/gnome-i18n/extra-po/firestarter/, as I > do not have CVS access myself. > > http://firestarter.sourceforge.net/translators/firestarter.pot > > We'll be releasing a new (0.8.1) version soon, any > and all updated translations are very much appreciated! > There's only a few string changes since 0.7.x. It's committed into Gnome CVS now. :) > Thanks, > Tomas From kabalak@gtranslator.org Tue Dec 18 15:07:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from post.webmailer.de (natpost.webmailer.de [192.67.198.65]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2167181D4 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:07:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from Adeae.pppool.de (Adeae.pppool.de [213.6.222.174]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA17354 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 21:07:00 +0100 (MET) Subject: [Fwd: [Gtranslator-devel] GNOME 2.0 port status/please] From: Fatih Demir To: GNOME I18N List Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-bs1YM0s3FMg56pMd1URE" X-Mailer: Evolution/1.1.0.99 2001-12-16 CVS/kabalak (Preview Release) Date: 18 Dec 2001 21:06:53 +0100 Message-Id: <1008706030.869.42.camel@kabalak-debian> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-bs1YM0s3FMg56pMd1URE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-S4+zhwy12NHXwuZF1km4" --=-S4+zhwy12NHXwuZF1km4 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, I think this might also be interesting for some of our gnome-i18n@gnome.org readers, so I do forward my post to the gtranslator-devel mailing list also to here... Have fun with it or spam me if you feel it's a bit too wrong-places on gnome-i18n@gnome.org (nana, who would do such a thing? Tsts... ,-)). -----Forwarded Message----- > To: gtranslator devel > Subject: [Gtranslator-devel] GNOME 2.0 port status/please > Date: 18 Dec 2001 20:41:12 +0100 =20 After Guntupalli and Peeter, German (?) did also join the GNOME 2.0 porter's volunteering caravane into the deserts of gtranslator development .-)=20 We all (they, me and Gediminas too, I'm sure) are for making a stable GNOME 1.x branch like gnome-1-x and for making further releases for the old platform from there and to develop the GNOME 2.0 port from the HEAD branch.=20 /Me personally would like to do a coming 0.39.2 release from the current HEAD with all the patches, fixes, merges and changes by the different people going in and updated translations from the HEAD -- still with GNOME 1.x sources -- in the next time.=20 After this we could split the development into the 2 branches; any comments about that? I would like to do it this way but if anyone has got any objections, better ideas, pleas, so he/she's quite welcome now .-)=20 Concerning the GNOME 2.0 port, /me has got very less time for gtranslator development so I won't do much for it by the next time, Gediminas has also got to do enough with his Master, so I think, the 3 volunteering porters will do their way, ideas work with the comprehensive and big support by the old developers of gtranslator.=20 So, there are 3 people up now, is there anyone else interested in porting GNOME 2.0 to gtranslator .. hmm, or was it the other way 'round ,-) Well, the main point is to get the people together and to define the main route -- I just did show you my main route plan for the port above..=20 The contents of the real port is for sure very different/hard, but we can do that alltogether! So, it would be now nice if anyone who is interested in the port would show his/her main point of porting, his/her main porting area, ideas, wishes in the mailing list so that we could get a good conglomerat of porting steps...=20 After this brainstorming, we can go over to the point of coordination, I will take care of this for sure (though sometimes you might get another feeling, but this feeling is then wrong for sure .-)).=20 PS: If you really read everything that far, you're a brave man/woman! Thanks .-)=20 --=20 <([ Fatih Demir / kabalak / kabalak@gtranslator.org ])>=20 <([ ICQ 64241161 / fdemir2@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ])>=20 <([ Studying Biology @ the University of Heidelberg ])>=20 --=-S4+zhwy12NHXwuZF1km4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, I think this might also be interesting for some of our gnome-i18n@gnome.org readers, so I do forward= my post to the gtranslator-devel mailing list also to here... Have fun wit= h it or spam me if you feel it's a bit too wrong-places on gnome-i18n@gnome.org (nana, who would do such a= thing? Tsts... ,-)).

-----Forwarded Message-----
> To: gtranslator devel <gtranslator-d= evel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: [Gtranslator-devel] GNOME 2.0 = port status/please
> Date: 18 Dec 2001 20:41:12 +0100
=20
After Guntupalli and Peeter, German (?) did also join the GNOME 2.0 porter'= s volunteering caravane into the deserts of gtranslator development .-)=20

We all (they, me and Gediminas too, I'm sure) are for making a stable GNOME= 1.x branch like gnome-1-x and for making fu= rther releases for the old platform from there and to develop the GNOME 2.0= port from the HEAD branch.=20

/Me personally would like to do a coming 0.39.2 release from the current HE= AD with all the patches, fixes, merges and changes by the different people = going in and updated translations from the HEAD -- still with GNOME 1.x sou= rces -- in the next time.=20

After this we could split the development into the 2 branches; any comments= about that? I would like to do it this way but if anyone has got any objec= tions, better ideas, pleas, so he/she's quite welcome now .-)=20

Concerning the GNOME 2.0 port, /me has got very less time for gtranslator d= evelopment so I won't do much for it by the next time, Gediminas has also g= ot to do enough with his Master, so I think, the 3 volunteering porters wil= l do their way, ideas work with the comprehensive and big support by the ol= d developers of gtranslator.=20

So, there are 3 people up now, is there anyone else interested in porting G= NOME 2.0 to gtranslator .. hmm, or was it the other way 'round ,-) Well, th= e main point is to get the people together and to define the main route -- = I just did show you my main route plan for the port above..=20

The contents of the real port is for sure very different/hard, but we can d= o that alltogether! So, it would be now nice if anyone who is interested in= the port would show his/her main point of porting, his/her main porting ar= ea, ideas, wishes in the mailing list so that we could get a good conglomer= at of porting steps...=20

After this brainstorming, we can go over to the point of coordination, I wi= ll take care of this for sure (though sometimes you might get another feeli= ng, but this feeling is then wrong for sure .-)).=20

PS: If you really read everything that far, you're a brave man/woman! Thank= s .-)=20
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<([ Fatih Demir / kabalak / k= abalak@gtranslator.org ])>=20
<([ ICQ 64241161 / fdemir2@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ])>=20
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--=-S4+zhwy12NHXwuZF1km4-- --=-bs1YM0s3FMg56pMd1URE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8H6HdU5A30wPqoUURAmpkAKDHeYMEx70SR/CKXQKvfsFy0mLuigCgqRg9 V+zwNuzQrRsuez+hye/uPxo= =lhIj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-bs1YM0s3FMg56pMd1URE-- From joe@ximian.com Tue Dec 18 15:47:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from localhost.localdomain (caedes.ximian.com [141.154.95.44]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45B718EE7 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:47:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from joe@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBIKkS515452; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:46:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: joe set sender to joe@ximian.com using -f Subject: Re: [Ximian Hello] Red Carpet 1.2 and translations From: Joe Shaw To: Christian Rose Cc: "Ximian, Inc." , red-carpet@ximian.com, gnome-i18n@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1008616578.8168.17.camel@daim.menthos.com> References: <1008616578.8168.17.camel@daim.menthos.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.0.99+cvs.2001.12.14.08.57 (Preview Release) Date: 18 Dec 2001 15:46:27 -0500 Message-Id: <1008708387.14908.27.camel@caedes> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Christian, On Mon, 2001-12-17 at 14:16, Christian Rose wrote: > It seems Red Carpet 1.2 not only still has many i18n problems, but also > breaks things that were translated before, so that they are now shown > untranslated. This includes a lot of the pages and their captions, like > the Summary page for example. What happened? While RC worked fine on Latin-1 encodings in the HTML portions of the app, they didn't work at all for other encodings. What we did was changed the strings marked with _() to U_() (which is in gal) and changed the gtkhtml widgets to use UTF-8 as the default locale. The gettextize script only pulled out strings marked with _() and N_(), so those strings which were previously translated no longer worked in 1.2. I've patched the process so that U_() is also pulled out in 1.2.1. > Also, the pot file hasn't been updated since September 18th. Heh. I miscopied the file and ended up committing only the ChangeLog. It's been fixed. So anyway, the problem should be fixed in 1.2.1, and the majority of the bugs below fixed as well. Joe From joergen.scheibengruber@informatik.uni-ulm.de Tue Dec 18 18:24:08 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from mail.informatik.uni-ulm.de (mail.informatik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.68.63]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3BE518229 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 18:24:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from [134.60.220.86] (helo=planetarena.wh-hms.uni-ulm.de) by mail.informatik.uni-ulm.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16GTah-0000YI-00; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 00:24:07 +0100 Subject: Re: ?? euro help !!! From: Joergen Scheibengruber To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Cc: Benoit ROUSSEAU In-Reply-To: <3C1F4E8B.9020608@wanadoo.fr> References: <3C1F4E8B.9020608@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 19 Dec 2001 00:21:58 +0100 Message-Id: <1008717718.5325.0.camel@planetarena> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Am Die, 2001-12-18 um 15.11 schrieb Benoit ROUSSEAU: > How I can get the symbol EUR in AbiWord and Gnumeric. >=20 > I have "Slackware 8" LC_ALL=3Dfr_FR@euro > GDM_LANG=3Dfr_FR.ISO-8859-15 > That's right ? >=20 >=20 > Thank's for help me !! Hi! It seems, that you already have everything configured right for the euro. That you don't get the euro-symbol probably is because your gtk+ font isn't a ISO-8859-15 font. Go to the Gtk-Themes-Dialog in the gnomecontrol center, there select use own font and choose a ISO-8859-15 font. This isn't workin for abiword, though... Don't know how it works there, sorry... Hope i helped, J=F6rgen --=20 There are two major products that come from Berkeley : LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. Jeremy S. Anderson From maddog@linuxhall.org Wed Dec 19 13:19:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [202.64.190.63]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438E718477 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:19:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from cm203-168-221-108.hkcable.com.hk ([203.168.221.108] helo=mobile.maddog.lan) by localhost with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16GlJ7-0001XM-00 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 02:19:09 +0800 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 02:19:10 +0800 (HKT) From: "R.I.P. Deaddog" To: Gnome I18N List Subject: Keep or remove xchat extra-po ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, Just discovered that, we seem to have a useless /gnome-i18n/extra-po/xchat{,-stable} here. 1. Some po files in xchat source are not in gnome cvs. E.g. ca, fi, he, lt, pt...... and so on. 2. Some po files in gnome CVS are not present in xchat source, e.g. lv, sr_YU This means that the po directory in xchat source and gnome CVS are completely unsynced. We are putting xchat po files here to expose xchat translation, and let more translators contribute to it. But if they are completely ignored, then we are just acting as a fork of the original translation, instead of exposure. Even worse is that, some translators work on xchat, only to find that the po file from other translators are incorporated into xchat source instead -- that's a complete waste of time. Anyone has opinion about this? Abel From maddog@linuxhall.org Wed Dec 19 13:24:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [202.64.190.63]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B954C18477 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:24:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from cm203-168-221-108.hkcable.com.hk ([203.168.221.108] helo=mobile.maddog.lan) by localhost with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16GlNg-0001Y0-00; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 02:23:52 +0800 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 02:23:53 +0800 (HKT) From: "R.I.P. Deaddog" To: Gnome I18N List Cc: ProfBacchus@aol.com Subject: Volunteering as a technical writer (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Anyone can guide this wandering soul? Abel ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 08:04:24 EST From: ProfBacchus@aol.com To: docs@gnome.org Subject: Volunteering as a technical writer Hi I learnt about your project on the "Open Source Writer's Group" pages and would like to offer my services on a voluntary basis. I am currently studying for a City and Guilds in Technical Communication, so the exercise would benefit my coursework too. My background is as a software developer (primarily VB/Java) so I feel comfortable about creating API documentation and any other texts that deal with code. Even as a developer I have always been called upon to do the documentation work and this is the area I now wish to concentrate on. In addition I have studied proofreading, copyediting, copywriting and creative writing. I have had a number of articles accepted for publication. If you think we can help one another, then please let me know. Regards Mark Lewin From menthos@menthos.com Wed Dec 19 14:05:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from igloo.df.lth.se (igloo.df.lth.se [194.47.250.47]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DEBC181B9 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:05:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from daim (E405.sparta.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by igloo.df.lth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA11309; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 20:05:54 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: Keep or remove xchat extra-po ? From: Christian Rose To: "R.I.P. Deaddog" Cc: Gnome I18N List In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 19 Dec 2001 20:04:57 +0100 Message-Id: <1008788697.8171.125.camel@daim.menthos.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: ons 2001-12-19 klockan 19.19 skrev R.I.P. Deaddog: > Just discovered that, we seem to have a useless > /gnome-i18n/extra-po/xchat{,-stable} here. > > 1. Some po files in xchat source are not in gnome cvs. E.g. > ca, fi, he, lt, pt...... and so on. > > 2. Some po files in gnome CVS are not present in xchat source, e.g. > lv, sr_YU > > This means that the po directory in xchat source and gnome CVS > are completely unsynced. We are putting xchat po files here to > expose xchat translation, and let more translators contribute > to it. But if they are completely ignored, then we are just > acting as a fork of the original translation, instead of exposure. I don't think this is a problem. The INFO files in CVS explicitly say that you have to mail your translation to the author. In other words, just committing it to CVS and expecting it to automatically appear in the next XChat release simply doesn't work. If your point is that the problem is that people don't always read the INFO files when they should, then I agree. > Even worse is that, some translators work on xchat, only to > find that the po file from other translators are incorporated into > xchat source instead -- that's a complete waste of time. This, however, is in my opinion a more serious issue. Unfortunately, I don't know if there is any way to solve it. XChat is not in GNOME CVS, it's not in any CVS at all, and there is only one developer/maintainer AFAIK. On top of that, he's usually rather unresponsive in my opinion; getting an answer back from him is a rare event. This is not just a problem for translators, it affects all developers who would like to improve XChat. That's part of why there are some projects starting on writing a simpler IRC client that integrates better with GNOME, and resides in a CVS, so that there can be many contributors. To sum things up, I don't think there's a lot that can be done to improve the XChat situation as long as there is only one developer and no CVS, but I don't think removing the extra-po directory in GNOME CVS will help. Christian From johana@transtelecomm.com Wed Dec 19 17:05:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from mail2.christwebs.com (unknown [67.105.77.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 26797187A5 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:05:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from johana (66.149.92.214) by MAX (MailMax 4. 7. 1. 4) with ESMTP id 95411772 for gnome-i18n@gnome.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 16:05:41 -0600 CST Message-ID: <00fd01c188ea$3bb58080$0b01a8c0@Johana> From: "Johana Herrera" To: Subject: Quotation Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 16:06:54 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00FA_01C188A7.2D180770" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00FA_01C188A7.2D180770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Dear Sir/Madam: We have an English - Bahasa translation. It has approximately 50.000 = words. It is an Equipment Operation Safety Manual. The deadline is = December the 30th. We would like to have a quotation for this work. = Please send it as soon as possible.=20 Best Regards, Johana Herrera Project Manager TRANSTELECOMM, Inc. 10575 Katy Frwy. Suite 440 Houston, Texas 77024 713 - 468 - 1774 713 - 468 - 1901 FAX johana@transtelecomm.com ------=_NextPart_000_00FA_01C188A7.2D180770 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  
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------=_NextPart_000_00FA_01C188A7.2D180770-- From jirka@zinc.5z.com Thu Dec 20 19:09:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from zinc.5z.com (zinc.5z.com [64.23.60.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD5F19277 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 19:09:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by zinc.5z.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id fBL09TV22678 for gnome-i18n@gnome.org; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 19:09:29 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 16:40:56 -0800 From: George To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Subject: upcoming gdm2 release Message-ID: <20011220164056.A16030@julia.linux.bogus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I'm planning a new gdm2 release soon. This is from the gdm-2-2 branch. There have been a bunch of fixes to this branch. I will be doing a merge to HEAD (which is the GNOME 2.0) version soon, and perhaps make a release of that as well, but that's further down the road. George -- George Beat on the brat, beat on the brat, beat on the brat, with a baseball bat. -- Ramones From baijumuthukadan@mailcity.com Sat Dec 22 02:27:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from mailcity.com (fes3.whowhere.com [209.185.123.188]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 23753181FB for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 02:27:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Fri Dec 21 23:27:19 2001 To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 23:27:19 -0800 From: "baiju m" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: baijumuthukadan@lycos.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service X-Priority: 1 Subject: Is there any malayalam translation project X-Sender-Ip: 164.100.54.5 Organization: Lycos Mail (http://mail.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I am baiju.m a malayali I would like to know whether anybody has started malayalam translation project for Linux (GNOME or KDE).If any project is there please inform me, I want to join. And now I created a web and an e-group for malayalam translation project: web: http://www.angelfire.com/linux/malayalam group: malayalamlinux-suscribe@yahoogroups.com (to suscribe) group web: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/malayalamlinux baiju.m --- Visit my web: http://angelfire.com/on2/baiju -- Click here for your very own create-a-date adventure from MatchMaker Go to http://ecard.matchmaker.com/dating.html From marco@it.gnome.org Sat Dec 22 03:53:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from smtp2.libero.it (smtp2.libero.it [193.70.192.52]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E48180E9 for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 03:53:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from ppp-229-206.30-151.libero.it (151.30.206.229) by smtp2.libero.it (6.0.032) id 3BEFF16100FEDBB4; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 09:53:37 +0100 Subject: Galeon releases From: Marco Pesenti Gritti To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Cc: galeon-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 22 Dec 2001 09:43:34 +0100 Message-Id: <1009010614.7265.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: We are going to release on Sunday night both stable (galeon-1-0 branch) and unstable (HEAD) to be compatible with mozilla 0.9.7. Strings are freezed, please update translations. Marco From maninder@dog.com Sun Dec 23 06:17:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from dog.com (tex.dogsaver.net [216.155.44.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E7D181DA for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 06:17:28 -0500 (EST) X-WM-Posted-At: dog.com; Sun, 23 Dec 01 06:17:20 -0500 X-WebMail-UserID: maninder Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 06:17:20 -0500 From: Crismus Bonus To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Cc: Carlos Perell=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=F3?= Mar=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=EDn?= X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002170 Subject: New team for Devanagari [HI_in-UTF-8] Message-ID: <3C2A65D4@dog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.61.05 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I haven't received any sort of a response frm. the co-ordinator of Hindi language. I would like to request you to pls. let me head the Devanagri and Hindi team for Gnome I18N. As you said, I already have translations ready for a lot of gnome apps, and I have a system which already displays Indic scripts perfectly. I also have a Indic Fonts HOWTO on Linxdoc.org and Ibiblio.org. Here are the links. http://ibiblio.org/gferg/ldp/Indic-fonts-HOWTO.html http://linuxdoc.org/authors/inprogress.html I only request you to let me head the team and get some real work done here for India. I am really serious about seeing Indic support in Gnome, and request you to make me the team leader for the achievement of this goal, with a collective effort frm other inspired Indian Linux users. Thanks Maninder Bali >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Original Message From Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >El lun, 10-12-2001 a las 20:42, > >If the actual coordinator team for Hindi translation don't answer your >requests I suppose that you could get this task. > >The best way to start your own team is starting to translate programs >and let some months to answer the old team coordinator. If he/she does >not reply, then you could (without problems) be the official one. > >Please start the translations ;-) > >Thank you for your contributions!!!! >Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn >mailto:carlos@gnome-db.org >mailto:carlos.perello@hispalinux.es >http://www.gnome-db.org >http://www.Hispalinux.es >Valencia - Spain > >--=3D-OtDJVqmKtf9aVlueq1du >Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) >Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > >iD8DBQA8FRMwEuPMamD5V9cRAnBrAJ94Yl2a86ESlNvxCHx5MjvJLdc7nwCeMO4k >2WJIHtiWonR7oaR+YRkNAKM=3DuoCY >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >--=3D-OtDJVqmKtf9aVlueq1du-- ____________________________________________________________ woof! woof! I'm @dog.com Get your free @dog e-mail at http://www.dog.com From carlos@gnome-db.org Sun Dec 23 07:00:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from gollum.gnome-db.org (213-96-77-61.uc.nombres.ttd.es [213.96.77.61]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44F81838B for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 07:00:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (BilBo.gnome-db.org [192.168.1.3]) by gollum.gnome-db.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D440A800B; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 13:02:15 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: New team for Devanagari [HI_in-UTF-8] From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= To: Crismus Bonus Cc: GNOME i18n list In-Reply-To: <3C2A65D4@dog.com> References: <3C2A65D4@dog.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-BPhNvWpu/lK8TDtAW/wf" X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 23 Dec 2001 13:01:56 +0100 Message-Id: <1009108916.662.0.camel@Bilbo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-BPhNvWpu/lK8TDtAW/wf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El dom, 23-12-2001 a las 12:17, Crismus Bonus escribi=F3: > I haven't received any sort of a response frm. the co-ordinator of Hindi=20 > language. >=20 > I would like to request you to pls. let me head the Devanagri and Hindi t= eam=20 > for Gnome I18N. I have just updated the teams page with you as the Hindi coordinator. I have searched for Devanagri at http://lcweb.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/englangn.html and I cannot find this language :-? >=20 > As you said, I already have translations ready for a lot of gnome apps, a= nd I=20 > have a system which already displays Indic scripts perfectly. >=20 > I also have a Indic Fonts HOWTO on Linxdoc.org and Ibiblio.org. Here are = the=20 > links. >=20 > http://ibiblio.org/gferg/ldp/Indic-fonts-HOWTO.html >=20 > http://linuxdoc.org/authors/inprogress.html >=20 >=20 > I only request you to let me head the team and get some real work done he= re=20 > for India. I am really serious about seeing Indic support in Gnome, and=20 > request you to make me the team leader for the achievement of this goal, = with=20 > a collective effort frm other inspired Indian Linux users. Cool !! Good luck and if you have any questions about translations, please send us a mail. Also, if you have an website for you team, send us the URL and we will add it to teams page. Bye >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Maninder Bali >=20 > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Original Message From Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > >El lun, 10-12-2001 a las 20:42, > > > >If the actual coordinator team for Hindi translation don't answer your > >requests I suppose that you could get this task. > > > >The best way to start your own team is starting to translate programs > >and let some months to answer the old team coordinator. If he/she does > >not reply, then you could (without problems) be the official one. > > > >Please start the translations ;-) > > > >Thank you for your contributions!!!! > >Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn > >mailto:carlos@gnome-db.org > >mailto:carlos.perello@hispalinux.es > >http://www.gnome-db.org > >http://www.Hispalinux.es > >Valencia - Spain > > > >--=3D-OtDJVqmKtf9aVlueq1du > >Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > > > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > >Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > > >iD8DBQA8FRMwEuPMamD5V9cRAnBrAJ94Yl2a86ESlNvxCHx5MjvJLdc7nwCeMO4k > >2WJIHtiWonR7oaR+YRkNAKM=3DuoCY > >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > >--=3D-OtDJVqmKtf9aVlueq1du-- >=20 > ____________________________________________________________ > woof! woof! I'm @dog.com > Get your free @dog e-mail at http://www.dog.com --=20 Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn mailto:carlos@gnome-db.org mailto:carlos.perello@hispalinux.es http://www.gnome-db.org http://www.Hispalinux.es Valencia - Spain --=-BPhNvWpu/lK8TDtAW/wf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8JcezEuPMamD5V9cRAmEeAJoD89uGHsR6Z2ZrJEvaz1l4A8wSpgCfbafP GmnbyjZhCiS1jO/gqrexM4M= =YqQS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-BPhNvWpu/lK8TDtAW/wf-- From pablo@mandrakesoft.com Sun Dec 23 08:58:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from chanae.alphanet.ch (212-100-178-141.adsl.easynet.be [212.100.178.141]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EEF01812E for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 08:58:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from srtxg@localhost) by chanae.alphanet.ch (8.9.0/8.9.0) id OAA05867 for gnome-i18n@gnome.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 14:48:27 +0100 Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 14:48:27 +0100 From: Pablo Saratxaga To: GNOME i18n list Subject: Re: New team for Devanagari [HI_in-UTF-8] Message-ID: <20011223144827.A5708@chanae.alphanet.ch> Mail-Followup-To: GNOME i18n list References: <3C2A65D4@dog.com> <1009108916.662.0.camel@Bilbo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0us In-Reply-To: <1009108916.662.0.camel@Bilbo>; from carlos@gnome-db.org on Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 01:01:35PM +0100 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Kaixo! On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 01:01:35PM +0100, Carlos Perelló Marín wrote: > I have just updated the teams page with you as the Hindi coordinator. > I have searched for Devanagri at > http://lcweb.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/englangn.html and I cannot find > this language :-? It is not a language, it's a script name (like "cyrillic"). Languages written in devanagari script are: hindi and mahrati (and sanskrit, but it is not a current language). -- Ki ça vos våye bén, Pablo Saratxaga http://www.srtxg.easynet.be/ PGP Key available, key ID: 0x8F0E4975 From cactus@cactus.rulez.org Sun Dec 23 18:22:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from booster.telnet.hu (booster.telnet.hu [212.75.128.38]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B78180EE for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 18:22:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from sendmail.telnet.hu ([212.75.128.13] ident=qmailr) by booster.telnet.hu with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16IHx0-0005Cx-00 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 00:22:38 +0100 Received: (qmail 10175 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2001 23:22:38 -0000 Received: from isdn001.bp1.telnet.hu (HELO mail.cactus) (212.75.129.1) by mail.telnet.hu with SMTP; 23 Dec 2001 23:22:38 -0000 Received: from ds9.cactus (really [10.0.0.1]) by mail.cactus via smail with esmtp id (Debian Smail3.2.0.111) for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 00:22:42 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 00:22:42 +0100 (CET) From: ERDI Gergo X-Sender: cactus@ds9.cactus To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Subject: XML files containing translations Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: [please CC replies to cactus@cactus.rulez.org] Hi, In my project I'd like to use the xml-i18n-tools package to store all the translations in one file. However, it's not clear what algorithm I should use to retrieve the correct translation. The problem is that it's not at all clear what set of tags I should look at. Consider the following, very simple file: =09This is the description in English =09This is the description in Hungarian The problem is this can mean so many things: =09* This can mean two separate tags, with the first =09 one included in every locale and the second one only in =09 Hungarian ones =09* These are two tags, and both are only available in =09 one locale ("C" and "hu"), so because of the C fallback, any =09 locale other than "hu" should include only the first one, and =09 "hu" should include both =09* This is one tag, included in "C" and "hu" locale, so if =09 locale=3D"hu", only the second one exits, in other cases, only the =09 first one exists. And maybe other cases as well. I definitely need some clarification here. I realize that there are many more issues in selecting the appropriate tag because there can be multiple locales set, but this part is very straightforward compared to deciding which set of tags to choose from. Thanks in advance, =09Gergo --=20 .--=3D ULLA! =3D---------------------. `We are not here to give users = what \ http://cactus.rulez.org \ they want' -- RMS, at GUADEC 2001 `---=3D cactus@cactus.rulez.org =3D---' Sok kicsi sokat kicsin=E1l. From V.vanAdrighem@dirck.mine.nu Mon Dec 24 19:01:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from dirck.mine.nu (a101184.upc-a.chello.nl [62.163.101.184]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED4C180D9 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 19:01:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from dirck.mine.nu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dirck.mine.nu (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -2) with SMTP id fBP01JKl028109 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2001 01:01:23 +0100 Received: from 62.163.237.171 (SquirrelMail authenticated user vincent) by dirck.mine.nu with HTTP; Tue, 25 Dec 2001 01:01:23 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <33258.62.163.237.171.1009238483.squirrel@dirck.mine.nu> Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 01:01:23 +0100 (CET) Subject: Dutch translation (nl) From: "Vincent van Adrighem" To: X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.0 [rc2]) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, We have been very active the last few months and have translated a LOT of messages. When I look at a section of the GNOME webpages it reads: > The following list shows the supported (more than 75% of the po files > translated), partially supported (more than 50% but less than 75%) and > unsupported languages (less than 50%). Look at: http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gtp/status/stable/nl.shtml (look at the bottom, in the center, 75.34) Well, I'm proud to announce that the Dutch translation effort has reached the 75% threshold today for stable-GNOME, dan we're still rising. If the statuspages are used to measure Translation-status, can someone change the list then? If not, then what is the criterium? Ow, and the 75.34% will increase of course. It's not like "75% is enough, where's the beer?" ;-) We are busy completing the half-translated files and are adding translations every day. Just added updated gnomeicu and Gnome-db translations a few minutes ago. Happy holidays to you, Vincent van Adrighem From h.verhagen@chello.nl Tue Dec 25 09:23:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from dhcp-134-1150 (a11253.upc-a.chello.nl [62.163.11.253]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100B4180ED for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2001 09:23:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from chello.nl (IDENT:iT2c2VqMNEPzDjRyPucfuBQ0cVAt1V4Y@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dhcp-134-1150 (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBPFMOr05016 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2001 16:22:24 +0100 Message-ID: <3C2899B0.A4FBF5EB@chello.nl> Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 16:22:24 +0100 From: Harm Verhagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.9-13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Subject: [Fwd: [Bug 15930] Changed - translation appears only half] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------ABF0AFFFB6D0692DA0795DF2" Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------ABF0AFFFB6D0692DA0795DF2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------ABF0AFFFB6D0692DA0795DF2 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rocky.ximian.com ([141.154.95.18]) by amsfep14-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.03.06 201-253-122-118-106-20010523) with SMTP id <20011218022743.FJWO29398.amsfep14-int.chello.nl@rocky.ximian.com> for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 03:27:43 +0100 Received: (qmail 7568 invoked by uid 33); 18 Dec 2001 02:27:43 -0000 Date: 18 Dec 2001 02:27:43 -0000 Message-ID: <20011218022743.7567.qmail@rocky.ximian.com> From: bugzilla-daemon@rocky.ximian.com To: ettore@ximian.com, h.verhagen@chello.nl, louie@ximian.com Cc: Subject: [Bug 15930] Changed - translation appears only half In-Reply-To: X-Bugzilla-Product: Evolution X-Bugzilla-Component: Miscellaneous X-Bugzilla-Status: RESOLVED X-Bugzilla-Priority: Normal X-Bugzilla-Severity: Unknown X-Bugzilla-Target-Milestone: --- X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Please do not reply to this email- if you want to comment on the bug, go to the URL shown below and enter your comments there. Changed by louie@ximian.com. http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15930 --- shadow/15930 Sun Nov 25 07:48:31 2001 +++ shadow/15930.tmp.7563 Mon Dec 17 21:27:43 2001 @@ -1,13 +1,13 @@ Bug#: 15930 Product: Evolution Version: 0.99.2 OS: Red Hat 7.2 OS Details: -Status: NEW -Resolution: +Status: RESOLVED +Resolution: NOTXIMIAN Severity: Unknown Priority: Normal Component: Miscellaneous AssignedTo: ettore@ximian.com ReportedBy: h.verhagen@chello.nl QAContact: louie@ximian.com @@ -50,6 +50,10 @@ ------- Additional Comments From tigerface@gmx.de 2001-11-25 07:48 ------- Same problem for me. Changing LANG environment variable does change only some parts of Evolution's language. Now Evolution has mixed langauage for me too. + +------- Additional Comments From louie@ximian.com 2001-12-17 21:27 ------- +Please report these problems to gnome-i18n@gnome.org. We don't write +the translations ourselves. Sorry. --------------ABF0AFFFB6D0692DA0795DF2-- From V.vanAdrighem@dirck.mine.nu Tue Dec 25 11:21:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from dirck.mine.nu (a101184.upc-a.chello.nl [62.163.101.184]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3CA183AC for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2001 11:21:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from dirck.mine.nu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dirck.mine.nu (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -2) with SMTP id fBPGLoKl029834; Tue, 25 Dec 2001 17:21:50 +0100 Received: from 62.163.237.171 (SquirrelMail authenticated user vincent) by dirck.mine.nu with HTTP; Tue, 25 Dec 2001 17:21:50 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <32821.62.163.237.171.1009297310.squirrel@dirck.mine.nu> Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 17:21:50 +0100 (CET) Subject: Dutch Translation evolution From: "Vincent van Adrighem" To: Cc: , X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.0 [rc2]) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Same problem for me. Changing LANG environment variable does change > only some parts of Evolution's language. Now Evolution has mixed > langauage for me too. Hi Harm Verhagen, This is a problem with the translation. Evolution hasn't been translated 100%, so there are still some English messages in the program. It will stay this way untill someone finds some time to translate them. The original translator has abandoned the project, so if someone thinks evolution is a useful application, please complete the translation. Just let me know and I'll give it to you. Because of the chello.nl address, I assumed it's the Dutch language. So, as the dutch translation coordinator, I'm replying. ---- In dutch: Als je graag gebruik maakt van evolution, en het graag in het Nederlands zou willen gebruiken, dan zou je het zelf kunnen vertalen. Het zou in ieder geval een hele bijdrage betekenen omdat het om een kernproject gaat wat eigenlijk gewoon 100% vertaald zou moeten worden. Als je d'r interesse in hebt, laat het dan maar weten. Het is simpel om te vertalen en er zijn speciale programma's voor. Kijk ook eens op: gnome-nl.sourceforge.net ----- Happy holidays, Vincent van Adrighem -- Help mee met het vertalen van GNOME. 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I got confused because if the currently most used form (iso-...) is wrong, msgfmt handles the po file per iso-8859-1 per default, so that mostly language specific data/characters won't go into the compiles gettext mo file... I tried to examine this via trying to format many po files I could get, but all tries with msgfmt via: msgfmt -cccc tr.po .. resulted in no error/warning, so I'm asking myself, what's going on here now.. If it would be wrong, msgfmt would "babble" about it, right? Why doesn't it do so then? I'm using gettext 0.10.40 if this matters.. As you can see I'm a bit confused right now .-) Thanks for any answers and to be completely stupid: Merry Christmas to all Christians "post celebrations" if one could say that so.. --=20 <([ Fatih Demir / kabalak / kabalak@gtranslator.org ])> <([ ICQ 64241161 / fdemir2@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ])> <([ Studying Biology @ the University of Heidelberg ])> --=-Di0Mr3H5JBgFbT+kscWF Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hm, after some confusion in my ehad due to some post to gnome-turk@gnome.org (it was Nilgün who made = me think long about this now.. .-)) concerning iso[-]* style formatting of = the character set, so I thought, ask the gnome-i18n@gnome.org list members for further enlightenment and/or help, advise, whatever coems to your mind .-)

Now, since today, me, gtranslator and also most of our translators in GNOME= generally put the character set line in the po file header for the iso fam= ily like this:
iso-8859-X
Nilgün explained to me, that it would be more right to have this sente= nce written like:
ISO-8859-X
Hm, what is right from the standards/gettext wodnerland of standards now?! = I got confused because if the currently most used form (iso-...) is = wrong, msgfmt handles the po file per iso-8859-1 per default, so tha= t mostly language specific data/characters won't go into the compiles gette= xt mo file...

I tried to examine this via trying to format many po files I could get, but= all tries with msgfmt via:
msgfmt -cccc tr.po
.. resulted in no error/warning, so I'm asking myself, what's going on here= now.. If it would be wrong, msgfmt would "babble" about it, righ= t? Why doesn't it do so then? I'm using gettext 0.10.40 if this matt= ers..

As you can see I'm a bit confused right now .-) Thanks for any answers and = to be completely stupid: Merry Christmas to all Christians "post ce= lebrations" if one could say that so..
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<([ Fatih Demir / kabalak / k= abalak@gtranslator.org ])>
<([ ICQ 64241161 / fdemir2@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ])>
<([ Studying Biology @ the Univ= ersity of Heidelberg ])>
--=-Di0Mr3H5JBgFbT+kscWF-- --=-qqnY/l3H2yGzyTosxFuU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8Kbs7U5A30wPqoUURAou1AKDCISE/4OisXwbN7SmfvFFO/SdsBQCdFAdq zCvFKWCsmHXrQieJPv1754o= =4XJo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-qqnY/l3H2yGzyTosxFuU-- From menthos@menthos.com Wed Dec 26 07:12:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from igloo.df.lth.se (igloo.df.lth.se [194.47.250.47]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670A318134 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 07:12:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (menthos@localhost) by igloo.df.lth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12562; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 13:13:10 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: igloo.df.lth.se: menthos owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 13:13:10 +0100 (MET) From: Christian Rose To: Fatih Demir Cc: GNOME I18N List Subject: Re: Character set formatics (iso family) In-Reply-To: <1009367869.430.44.camel@kabalak-debian> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On 26 Dec 2001, Fatih Demir wrote: > Now, since today, me, gtranslator and also most of our translators in > GNOME generally put the character set line in the po file header for the > iso family like this: > > iso-8859-X > > Nilgün explained to me, that it would be more right to have this > sentence written like: > > ISO-8859-X > > Hm, what is right from the standards/gettext wodnerland of standards > now?! AFAIK, both forms are valid. The same iso character set can be written both "iso-8859-X" and "ISO-8859-X". It is not case sensitive. Which form is preferred is a matter of taste. In the Swedish team I think we've agreed upon using the lowercase notation. UTF-8 on the other hand has to be written "UTF-8" in uppercase. Christian From menthos@menthos.com Wed Dec 26 21:43:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from igloo.df.lth.se (igloo.df.lth.se [194.47.250.47]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE8C18251 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 21:43:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from daim (E405.sparta.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by igloo.df.lth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA04168; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 03:44:17 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: XML files containing translations From: Christian Rose To: ERDI Gergo Cc: gnome-i18n@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 27 Dec 2001 03:42:58 +0100 Message-Id: <1009420978.32391.27.camel@daim.menthos.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi! This question maybe is better suited for the http://lists.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/xml-i18n-tools list, since it is very specific to algorithms and the use of xml-i18n-tools/intltool. Or maybe I misunderstood the question? Christian m=E5n 2001-12-24 klockan 00.22 skrev ERDI Gergo: > Hi, >=20 > In my project I'd like to use the xml-i18n-tools package to store all the > translations in one file. However, it's not clear what algorithm I should > use to retrieve the correct translation. >=20 > The problem is that it's not at all clear what set of tags I should look > at. Consider the following, very simple file: >=20 > > This is the description in English > This is the description in Hungarian > >=20 > The problem is this can mean so many things: >=20 > * This can mean two separate tags, with the first > one included in every locale and the second one only in > Hungarian ones > * These are two tags, and both are only available in > one locale ("C" and "hu"), so because of the C fallback, any > locale other than "hu" should include only the first one, and > "hu" should include both > * This is one tag, included in "C" and "hu" locale, so if > locale=3D"hu", only the second one exits, in other cases, only the > first one exists. >=20 > And maybe other cases as well. I definitely need some clarification here. > I realize that there are many more issues in selecting the appropriate ta= g > because there can be multiple locales set, but this part is very > straightforward compared to deciding which set of tags to choose from. >=20 > Thanks in advance, > Gergo >=20 >=20 > --=20 > .--=3D ULLA! =3D---------------------. `We are not here to give user= s what > \ http://cactus.rulez.org \ they want' -- RMS, at GUADEC 20= 01 > `---=3D cactus@cactus.rulez.org =3D---' > Sok kicsi sokat kicsin=E1l. 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From veillard@redhat.com Thu Dec 27 17:10:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (nat-pool-meridian.redhat.com [199.183.24.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E589E18552 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 17:10:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from veillard@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id fBRMABi02568; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 17:10:11 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 17:10:11 -0500 From: Daniel Veillard To: ERDI Gergo Cc: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Subject: Re: XML files containing translations Message-ID: <20011227171011.D25502@redhat.com> Reply-To: veillard@redhat.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from cactus@cactus.rulez.org on Mon, Dec 24, 2001 at 12:22:42AM +0100 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Dec 24, 2001 at 12:22:42AM +0100, ERDI Gergo wrote: > [please CC replies to cactus@cactus.rulez.org] > > Hi, > > In my project I'd like to use the xml-i18n-tools package to store all the > translations in one file. However, it's not clear what algorithm I should > use to retrieve the correct translation. > > The problem is that it's not at all clear what set of tags I should look > at. Consider the following, very simple file: > > > This is the description in English > This is the description in Hungarian > NOTE !!!!! An XML entity (i.e. a single file/resource part of an XML document) has the ABSOLUTE requirement to be in a SINGLE ENCODING. What you describe scales only if you accept to have everything in the same encoding and the english part is likely to force this to the small set (UTF-8, ISO-Latin-... and a few others). And UTF-8 is the only one which will allow to cover the full Unicode range. So when you write "This is the description in Hungarian" this is actually "This is the description in Hungarian in UTF-8", or you expose yourself to tons of problems in a relatively short term. Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Network https://rhn.redhat.com/ veillard@redhat.com | libxml Gnome XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ From cactus@cactus.rulez.org Thu Dec 27 18:18:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from booster.telnet.hu (booster.telnet.hu [212.75.128.38]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0B4188BF for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:18:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from sendmail.telnet.hu ([212.75.128.13] ident=qmailr) by booster.telnet.hu with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16Jjml-0007sy-00 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 00:18:03 +0100 Received: (qmail 25653 invoked from network); 27 Dec 2001 23:18:03 -0000 Received: from isdn001.bp1.telnet.hu (HELO mail.cactus) (212.75.129.1) by mail.telnet.hu with SMTP; 27 Dec 2001 23:18:03 -0000 Received: from ds9.cactus (really [10.0.0.1]) by mail.cactus via smail with esmtp id (Debian Smail3.2.0.111) for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 00:18:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 00:18:05 +0100 (CET) From: ERDI Gergo X-Sender: cactus@ds9.cactus To: Daniel Veillard Cc: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Subject: Re: XML files containing translations In-Reply-To: <20011227171011.D25502@redhat.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, 27 Dec 2001, Daniel Veillard wrote: > On Mon, Dec 24, 2001 at 12:22:42AM +0100, ERDI Gergo wrote: > > [please CC replies to cactus@cactus.rulez.org] > NOTE !!!!! An XML entity (i.e. a single file/resource part of an XML > document) has the ABSOLUTE requirement to be in a SINGLE ENCODING. Yes, I know, that was what the whole fuzz at 1.8.tensomething was about, wasn't it? > What you describe scales only if you accept to have everything in the > same encoding and the english part is likely to force this to the small > set (UTF-8, ISO-Latin-... and a few others). And UTF-8 is the only one > which will allow to cover the full Unicode range. > So when you write "This is the description in Hungarian" this is actual= ly > "This is the description in Hungarian in UTF-8", or you expose yourself > to tons of problems in a relatively short term. This is a GNOME 1 app -- will this just automagically work with xml-i18n-tools, libxml1, and GTK+? BTW, this isn't really what my original question was about. --=20 .--=3D ULLA! =3D---------------------. `We are not here to give users = what \ http://cactus.rulez.org \ they want' -- RMS, at GUADEC 2001 `---=3D cactus@cactus.rulez.org =3D---' Kicsi, s=E1rga =E9s kapar: k=EDnai n=F5gy=F3gy=E1sz. From veillard@redhat.com Fri Dec 28 05:36:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (nat-pool-meridian.redhat.com [199.183.24.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE6618931 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 05:36:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from veillard@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id fBSAaB627246; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 05:36:11 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 05:36:11 -0500 From: Daniel Veillard To: ERDI Gergo Cc: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Subject: Re: XML files containing translations Message-ID: <20011228053611.B22829@redhat.com> Reply-To: veillard@redhat.com References: <20011227171011.D25502@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from cactus@cactus.rulez.org on Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 12:18:05AM +0100 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 12:18:05AM +0100, ERDI Gergo wrote: > > What you describe scales only if you accept to have everything in the > > same encoding and the english part is likely to force this to the small > > set (UTF-8, ISO-Latin-... and a few others). And UTF-8 is the only one > > which will allow to cover the full Unicode range. > > So when you write "This is the description in Hungarian" this is actually > > "This is the description in Hungarian in UTF-8", or you expose yourself > > to tons of problems in a relatively short term. > > This is a GNOME 1 app -- will this just automagically work with > xml-i18n-tools, libxml1, and GTK+? libxml1, no. libxml2 yes. > BTW, this isn't really what my original question was about. Yes, but it was a good occasion to make sure that old problem is well understood and addressed :-) Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Network https://rhn.redhat.com/ veillard@redhat.com | libxml Gnome XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ From simos74@gmx.net Fri Dec 28 09:00:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@mail.gnome.org Received: from pc96.ma.rhul.ac.uk (pc96.ma.rhul.ac.uk [134.219.20.134]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2F3180FC for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 09:00:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by pc96.ma.rhul.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.2) id fBSE91601657; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 14:09:01 GMT Subject: The changing the user-font in Control-Center bug From: Simos Xenitellis To: gnome-i18n@mail.gnome.org Cc: I18nGR =?iso-8859-7?Q?=EB=DF=F3=F4=E1?= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.0.99+cvs.2001.12.18.08.57 (Preview Release) Date: 28 Dec 2001 14:09:01 +0000 Message-Id: <1009548541.1159.44.camel@pc96.ma.rhul.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Akira Tagoh came up with a simple patch to the i18n problem described in http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62682 In this bug, the user-font change in the Control Center (gtk-theme-selector-capplet) was not having effect if the same locale had a configuration file in /etc/gtk/ The configuration file in /etc/gtk/ would take precedent over the custom font setting in ~/.gtkrc The change is to specify "fontset=.." instead of "font=.." in ~/.gtkrc, as described in the bug record. Could someone bless this and apply the patch in CVS? Thanks, simos From cyba@ender.gnome.pl Fri Dec 28 11:23:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from ender.gnome.pl (ip242.t19.ds.pwr.wroc.pl [156.17.237.242]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C5018510 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 11:23:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from cyba by ender.gnome.pl with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 16K01J-0005JJ-00; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 17:38:09 +0100 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 17:38:09 +0100 From: Zbigniew Chyla To: ERDI Gergo Cc: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Subject: Re: XML files containing translations Message-ID: <20011228163809.GA20391@ender.gnome.pl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 2001-12-24 at 00:22:42, ERDI Gergo wrote: > In my project I'd like to use the xml-i18n-tools package to store all the > translations in one file. Very good idea. > The problem is this can mean so many things: > > * This can mean two separate tags, with the first > one included in every locale and the second one only in > Hungarian ones > * These are two tags, and both are only available in > one locale ("C" and "hu"), so because of the C fallback, any > locale other than "hu" should include only the first one, and > "hu" should include both > * This is one tag, included in "C" and "hu" locale, so if > locale="hu", only the second one exits, in other cases, only the > first one exists. > > And maybe other cases as well. I definitely need some clarification here. > I realize that there are many more issues in selecting the appropriate tag > because there can be multiple locales set, but this part is very > straightforward compared to deciding which set of tags to choose from. I suggest you use e_xml_get_child_by_name_by_lang_list function from GAL. It returns the appropriate tag for current locale (optionally you can also provide a list of locales you want to use) and falls back to tag with no locale specified (without xml:lang attribute). Zbigniew From timar@gnome.hu Sat Dec 29 05:47:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from gamax.hu (ns.gamax.hu [195.184.11.170]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A662180E1 for ; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 05:47:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.146] ([192.168.1.146]) by gateway.gamax.hu with ESMTP id <119060>; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 11:51:20 +0100 Subject: Button captions in File Selection dialog From: Andras Timar To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-vCg7ZeUx29/Rhszv7WMU" Message-Id: <1009544257.2814.1.camel@toshiba.itp.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 11:45:15 +0100 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-vCg7ZeUx29/Rhszv7WMU Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-eEBeBYwFxkM6piQqFH+H" --=-eEBeBYwFxkM6piQqFH+H Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Can you please tell me where are those button captions marked on the screenshot coming from? I would like to localize them.=20 My second question is probably off-topic here, but I wonder if you can tell me how to modify the default shortcuts (i.e., Home jumps to ~/ and Documents jumps to ~/Documents, but I would like to jump elsewhere). Is it possible to add a new button there? I would like to have more than two shortcuts in the File Selection dialog box. 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--=-vCg7ZeUx29/Rhszv7WMU-- From menthos@menthos.com Sat Dec 29 05:59:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from igloo.df.lth.se (igloo.df.lth.se [194.47.250.47]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BED9180E1 for ; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 05:59:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from daim (E405.sparta.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by igloo.df.lth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12473; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 12:01:12 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: Button captions in File Selection dialog From: Christian Rose To: Andras Timar Cc: gnome-i18n@gnome.org, distribution-bugs@ximian.com In-Reply-To: <1009544257.2814.1.camel@toshiba.itp.hu> References: <1009544257.2814.1.camel@toshiba.itp.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 29 Dec 2001 11:59:46 +0100 Message-Id: <1009623586.23513.33.camel@daim.menthos.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: l=F6r 2001-12-29 klockan 11.45 skrev Andras Timar: > Can you please tell me where are those button captions marked on the > screenshot coming from? I would like to localize them.=20 Good question. These buttons are AFAIK only available in the patched gtk+ file selection dialog in Ximian GNOME, not the official GNOME. The bug report about these button captions not being localizable is at http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D2782. It was reported in May and is still marked "NEW". Christian From julian@jabber.org Sat Dec 29 17:24:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from lito.aspect.net (adsl-65-69-210-161.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net [65.69.210.161]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38E7180EC for ; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 17:23:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from jabber.org (pool-151-204-75-8.delv.east.verizon.net [151.204.75.8]) by lito.aspect.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C99B55DE1 for ; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 16:23:50 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3C2E4275.7000207@jabber.org> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 17:23:49 -0500 From: Julian Missig User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.7+) Gecko/20011211 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Subject: Gabber 0.8.6 Release Soon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Gabber 0.8.6 will be released within the next few days, so I'm giving you guys a heads up to finish up translations... again, in module gnome-i18n/extra-po/gabber/ - if there's a specific day you need me to wait until please tell me, otherwise I'll probably release on the 1st or 2nd. Julian -- email: julian@jabber.org jabber:julian@jabber.org From maddog@linuxhall.org Sun Dec 30 23:30:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [202.64.190.63]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818111842E; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 23:30:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from cm203-168-221-108.hkcable.com.hk ([203.168.221.108] helo=mobile.maddog.lan) by localhost with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16Ku5o-0005Jm-00; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:30:33 +0800 Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:30:26 +0800 (HKT) From: "R.I.P. Deaddog" To: Jody Goldberg Cc: Gnome I18N List , Gnumeric List Subject: Re: Strings need to be fixed In-Reply-To: <20011230191627.GA3870@laptop.thegoldbergs.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Jody Goldberg wrote: > > Just had a slight proofread of translation strings, and > > found that some places need to be fixed, which are attached. > > Is it ok to commit? > > Please do NOT commit. This would break translations. Thanks for > the changes but they can not go in until 1.0.1. Oops... they don't count as bug fixes? Anyway, all those changes are not critical except the 1000 separator one. > > Index: doc/C/func.defs > > =================================================================== > > RCS file: /cvs/gnome/gnumeric/doc/C/func.defs,v > > retrieving revision 1.30 > > diff -u -r1.30 func.defs > > --- doc/C/func.defs 2001/12/29 06:08:54 1.30 > > +++ doc/C/func.defs 2001/12/30 15:11:23 > > @@ -1337,9 +1337,9 @@ > This is a generated file, you need to patch the source. Get it now, thanks. I just grep'ed the whole gnumeric tree to search for inaccuracies, didn't notice that before. Abel > > Index: doc/C/functions.sgml > > =================================================================== > > RCS file: /cvs/gnome/gnumeric/doc/C/functions.sgml,v > > retrieving revision 1.38 > > diff -u -r1.38 functions.sgml > > --- doc/C/functions.sgml 2001/12/29 06:08:54 1.38 > > +++ doc/C/functions.sgml 2001/12/30 15:11:28 > This is generated from func.defs > > > Index: src/GNOME_Gnumeric.xml > > =================================================================== > > RCS file: /cvs/gnome/gnumeric/src/GNOME_Gnumeric.xml,v > > retrieving revision 1.82 > > diff -u -r1.82 GNOME_Gnumeric.xml > > --- src/GNOME_Gnumeric.xml 2001/12/30 00:33:14 1.82 > > +++ src/GNOME_Gnumeric.xml 2001/12/30 15:11:29 > > @@ -748,8 +748,8 @@ > > > > > pixtype="stock" pixname="Gnumeric_FormatThousandSeperator" > > - _label="Right" > > - _tip="Includes a thousands separator in the selected cells" > > + _label="1000s separator" > > + _tip="Includes a thousands separator for numbers in the selected cells" > > verb="FormatWithThousands"/> > Good catch, I'll commit a variant of this to sync the bonobo text > with the non-bonobo. That way no translations will be broken. > > > Index: src/functions/fn-database.c > > Index: src/functions/fn-date.c > > Index: src/functions/fn-eng.c > > Index: src/functions/fn-information.c > > Index: src/functions/fn-math.c > > Index: src/functions/fn-stat.c > Save these for after 1.0.0 > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > gnumeric-list mailing list > gnumeric-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list > From menthos@menthos.com Mon Dec 31 01:07:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from igloo.df.lth.se (igloo.df.lth.se [194.47.250.47]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB5118BED; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 01:07:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from daim (E405.sparta.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by igloo.df.lth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05448; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 07:08:19 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: Strings need to be fixed From: Christian Rose To: "R.I.P. Deaddog" Cc: Gnome I18N List , Gnumeric List In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 Date: 31 Dec 2001 07:06:48 +0100 Message-Id: <1009778808.29067.47.camel@daim.menthos.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: m=E5n 2001-12-31 klockan 05.30 skrev R.I.P. Deaddog: > > > Just had a slight proofread of translation strings, and > > > found that some places need to be fixed, which are attached. > > > Is it ok to commit? > > > > Please do NOT commit. This would break translations. Thanks for > > the changes but they can not go in until 1.0.1. >=20 > Oops... they don't count as bug fixes? Anyway, all those changes are > not critical except the 1000 separator one. At some point not even bug-fixing string changes should go in. Such changes in general break translations and it is not realistical to expect all translators to be able to update their translations with less than a few days left, or only one day left, even if you should notify them of your changes. It is fully reasonable to expect people to be away from home a day or two sometimes. If the intent is to have an as fully translated major release as possible, it only makes sense to freeze *all* string changes that break translations at least a few days in advance, or more. This was true for the Evolution, Galeon, and Nautilus 1.0 releases too. The string bug fixes can always go into an 1.0.x release, and then you have plenty of time to give translators a warning in advance. So I fully agree with Jody's decision. Christian From pablo@mandrakesoft.com Mon Dec 31 08:02:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@mail.gnome.org Received: from chanae.alphanet.ch (212-100-178-141.adsl.easynet.be [212.100.178.141]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C91C185B7 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 08:02:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from srtxg@localhost) by chanae.alphanet.ch (8.9.0/8.9.0) id NAA15855; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 13:58:35 +0100 Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 13:58:35 +0100 From: Pablo Saratxaga To: gnome-i18n@mail.gnome.org, I18nGR ????? Subject: Re: The changing the user-font in Control-Center bug Message-ID: <20011231135835.U13155@chanae.alphanet.ch> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-i18n@mail.gnome.org, I18nGR ????? References: <1009548541.1159.44.camel@pc96.ma.rhul.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0us In-Reply-To: <1009548541.1159.44.camel@pc96.ma.rhul.ac.uk>; from simos74@gmx.net on Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 02:08:40PM +0000 Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Kaixo! On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 02:08:40PM +0000, Simos Xenitellis wrote: > Akira Tagoh came up with a simple patch to the i18n problem > described in > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62682 > > In this bug, the user-font change in the Control Center > (gtk-theme-selector-capplet) was not having effect if the same > locale had a configuration file in /etc/gtk/ > The configuration file in /etc/gtk/ would take precedent over the custom > font setting in ~/.gtkrc > > The change is to specify "fontset=.." instead of "font=.." in ~/.gtkrc, > as described in the bug record. And a fallback ",*" should be appended to the fontset name, otherwise, for those locales needing a multi-font fontset (CJK ones mainly) will fail. -- Ki ça vos våye bén, Pablo Saratxaga http://www.srtxg.easynet.be/ PGP Key available, key ID: 0x8F0E4975 From frob@df.ru Mon Dec 31 08:37:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Received: from cannabis.dataforce.net (cannabis.dataforce.net [195.42.160.18]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F2A1841C for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 08:37:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from bonobo (h9.n177.cust.dataforce.net [195.42.177.9] (may be forged)) by cannabis.dataforce.net (8.11.6/8.8.8) with SMTP id fBVDbW410341 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 16:37:32 +0300 Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 16:45:26 +0300 From: Valek Filippov To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Subject: Re: The changing the user-font in Control-Center bug Message-Id: <20011231164526.4a0cf39e.frob@df.ru> In-Reply-To: <20011231135835.U13155@chanae.alphanet.ch> References: <1009548541.1159.44.camel@pc96.ma.rhul.ac.uk> <20011231135835.U13155@chanae.alphanet.ch> Reply-To: frob@df.ru X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-alt-linux) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="=.(+V6wiZn,SpYxz" Sender: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-i18n-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-i18n@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Internationalization (I18N) of GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=.(+V6wiZn,SpYxz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hej > And a fallback ",*" should be appended to the fontset name, otherwise, for > those locales needing a multi-font fontset (CJK ones mainly) will fail. ... and if ",*" exist, when you about always will have incorrect charset. Cyrillic world succesfully droped this Pablo "extension" and live in peace. Nothing personal. Cheers, Valek --=.(+V6wiZn,SpYxz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8MGwLPdST9oow2XwRAr/OAJ46h5ppROURiJrAT4jBbUMMdAwCygCcDDgT gc3XKFm7gPXM5bLq/ALd+Po= =w2C0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=.(+V6wiZn,SpYxz--