Re: Button label and Orca

[Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>]

Hi All:

>>>> I have a button with the label "+". Its A11y name -  set with
>>>> atk_object_set_name() -  is "Increase Volume", but Orca insists
> in
>>>> reading "plus button".
>>>>
>>>> Isn't A11y name preferable over the label text?

Right now, Orca is erring on the side of reading what is on the screen; 
it's a screen reader after all ;-).

In this case, I think the right thing to do might be to make the 
accessible description be "Increase Volume" and let the Where Am I 
functionality allow the user to obtain the accessible description.  With 
this, a user would get "plus button" when navigating to the button and 
"Increase Volume" as part of the Where Am I presentation.  I'm CC'ing 
the orca-list on this, however, to get their thoughts.

Will

Brian Merrell wrote:
> John,
>
> Sorry that didn't work for you.  I forgot that i was working with a the
> drop-down menu part of a MenuToolButton.
>
> Here is some code (gtk#) that should at least make your button
> accessible:
>
> // button
> Button plusButton = new Button("+");
>      	
> // create a new label with the text we want read
> Label l = new Label("Hello World");
>
> // create relationships between the button and the new label
> l.Accessible.AddRelationship(Atk.RelationType.LabelFor,
> plusButton.Accessible);
> plusButton.Accessible.AddRelationship(Atk.RelationType.LabelledBy,
> l.Accessible);
>
> With this code you will see a button labelled "+", but Orca will read
> "Hello world plus button."  The screen reader still reads the "+", but
> it should at least make the button accessible.  I didn't see an obvious
> way to have the screen reader not read the "plus."
>
> Hope that helps,
> Brian G. Merrell
>
> > > > On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at  6:28 AM, in message
> <1205584094 5799 1 camel wendell-laptop>, Jonh Wendell
> <jwendell gnome org>
> wrote: 
> > Em Sex, 2008-03-14 às 22:59 -0600, Brian Merrell escreveu:
> > > I was trying to figure this out a few weeks ago.  Try calling the
> set 
> > description method instead of the set name method.  Orca reads the 
> > description.
> > > Brian G. Merrell
> > I was already setting the description... No luck. It insists in
> reading
> > the label :(
> >
> >
> > > > > > On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at  9:02 PM, in message
> > > <1205550142 25706 5 camel wendell-laptop>, Jonh Wendell
> <jwendell gnome org>
> > > wrote: 
> > > > Hi, folks.
> > > >
> > > > I have a button with the label "+". Its A11y name -  set with
> > > > atk_object_set_name() -  is "Increase Volume", but Orca insists
> in
> > > > reading "plus button".
> > > >
> > > > Isn't A11y name preferable over the label text?
> > > >
> > > > Looking at gail, gail_button_get_name() is correct. I don't know
> if Orca
> > > > uses this...
> > > >
> > > > Am I doing something wrong?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > --
> > Jonh Wendell
> > www.bani.com.br
>
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