Re: Getting Gnome Accessibility in Garnome

[David Bolter <david bolter utoronto ca>]

Bill Haneman wrote:

> Hi David:
>
> Sorry Simon/David, slip of the fingers.  Simon Bates and David Bolter
> are the maintainers.
>  
Yes, Simon Bolter is our borg name.

> I think there is a misunderstanding about releases and announcements
> here; these releases are primarily for the development community and a
> few early-adopters, and are eventually used by distros if they believe
> that quality and utility warrant.
>
> Releases _do_ need to be announced, but only to aliases read primarily
> by the GNOME developer community.  There is no implication of
> "readiness" nor suitability in such announcements.  On the other hand,
> it's generally not considered appropriate to release or bundle projects
> (via distros or "stable" community releases like 2.2.0 and 2.4.0) that
> have not already gone through several such internal 'releases'.
>
> David, can we get the go-ahead to make a GOK tarball for (GNOME's
> definition of) such a release?  I think it's important to do this now if
> we want GOK to be considered part of GNOME at any point in the near
> future.
Understood and yes please!  Fortunately, Simon has already done the 
build configuration for 'make dist'.  I would be more comfortable if he 
was involved with at least the first few releases.

(BTW we need to update gok's version numbers.  What is the rule of thumb 
here?)

cheers,

David

> - Bill
>
> On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 14:10, David Bolter wrote:
>  
>
> > Jeff Waugh wrote:
> >
> >    
> >
> > > <quote who="Bill Haneman">
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > Up until now, the gok team has been reluctant to make any actual
> > > > 'releases' (though GOK itself is working reasonably well).  However in
> > > > recent conversations with Simon Bolter of the University of Toronto,
> > > > co-maintainer of GOK, it sounded as though they could be persuaded to
> > > > start making releases.
> > > >   
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > ObligatoryReleaseTeamComment: Making releases is a really good habit to get
> > > into, 'release early, release often', etc. :-) If you've got code out in
> > > wide use, you can prioritise your fixes more easily - 'real' feedback really
> > > helps.
> > >
> > >      
> > Just a quick note to say that we agree with making frequent "releases" 
> > to the gnome community.  We wanted to wait on making a wider 
> > announcement until gok is really solid.  Oh, and that is "Simon Bates" 
> > you probably spoke with :-)
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > David Bolter
> >
> >    
> >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > The same goes for the gnopernicus team; Draghi, Adi, are you guys ready to
> > > > start uploading tarballs (i.e. "make dist") to ftp.gnome.org?
> > > >   
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > Just a recommendation - it's worth making sure your module distchecks before
> > > you make a release. Sometimes painful, but worth it in the end.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > As for the rest of the accessibility stack, it should be ready for GARNOME
> > > > now as far as I know.  I would include the 'at-poke' module also, in the
> > > > developer platform tarballs (not desktop), (at-poke was largely written by
> > > > Michael M) since it's very useful as a testing and diagnostic tool for the
> > > > developer platform.
> > > >   
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > Cool, I'll add at-poke.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > - Jeff
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >