From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Jun 16 05:37:44 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:37:44 +0200 Subject: Importing photos with tags Message-ID: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> I have several hundered photos that were tagged in a Windows program (BrilliantPhoto). I can extract the tags with a script and create an XML file or SQL dump for the tags. How can I then import that into the F-spot database? Any documentation on the F-spot database would be helpful. Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://gmail-com.com From stephane at delcroix.org Fri Jun 16 10:20:57 2006 From: stephane at delcroix.org (Stephane Delcroix) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 16:20:57 +0200 Subject: plugin support for F-Spot Message-ID: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> Hi list, I've spend some time lately to develop a plugin facility for F-Spot. So far, I've a virtual plugin class, some methods to load plugins, and a testplugin. Thanks to Thomas and his solution to bug #344534, I've also a way to compile plugins without the F-Spot sources. The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my guess), but some people need this. I'll be happy to see any comments, remarks, requirements... regards, Stephane From alexandre.prokoudine at gmail.com Fri Jun 16 21:16:36 2006 From: alexandre.prokoudine at gmail.com (Alexandre Prokoudine) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 05:16:36 +0400 Subject: plugin support for F-Spot In-Reply-To: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> References: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <733f2c730606161816l8e942a7w9c1623407f6fd397@mail.gmail.com> On 6/16/06, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as > many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to > my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my > guess), but some people need this. Plug-in architecture is a very, very useful thing :) But in your approach it's not limited to exporting functions, right? Alexandre From bengt at thuree.com Fri Jun 16 21:08:46 2006 From: bengt at thuree.com (Bengt Thuree) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:08:46 +0900 (JST) Subject: plugin support for F-Spot In-Reply-To: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> References: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <54022.194.237.142.10.1150506526.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> On Fr, 2006-06-16, 23:20, Stephane Delcroix skrev: > Hi list, > > I've spend some time lately to develop a plugin facility for F-Spot. So > far, I've a virtual plugin class, some methods to load plugins, and a > testplugin. Thanks to Thomas and his solution to bug #344534, I've also > a way to compile plugins without the F-Spot sources. > > The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as > many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to > my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my > guess), but some people need this. > > I'll be happy to see any comments, remarks, requirements... Cool, this will come in very handy I think. Also another plugin area would be to import old data. I can see a lot of users are having existing data in another format, and they would like to import it to F-Spot. F-Spot will probably handle the main import areas in core, but Mr XXX Super Duper Photo Software's format. Have you raised an enhancement bug so we kan track this one? /Bengt From bengt at thuree.com Sat Jun 17 04:45:51 2006 From: bengt at thuree.com (Bengt Thuree) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:45:51 +1000 Subject: Importing photos with tags In-Reply-To: <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1150533952.6150.8.camel@workie.thuree.com> > > Thanks, I'll look into that. I'm really a novice, what I can do is > extract the IPTC data that the tags are currently in with PHP and then > produce a text file (be it XML or SQL) to work with. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > Actually, have a look at the JPG file first. If the tags are stored in IPTC as well as in XMP format, you should be able to use the patch I wrote to let F-Spot read XMP data. IViewMedia Pro, were only supposed to store in IPTC as far as I understood, but they also stored the tags in XMP format. Also, I think that F-Spot has prepared to deal with IPTC tags as well. Have a look and see in IptcFile.cs, and see if you can create a new patch based on the XMP importer? Anyway, gthumb stores its tags in an xml file per photo, so you can take a look at that patch. Good Luck /Bengt From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Jun 17 12:21:59 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 19:21:59 +0300 Subject: Import/ Export of tags Message-ID: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> As I'm trying to decide which photo organiser to use (between DigiKam, F-spot, and KPhotoAlbum) I would really appreciate the ability to move photos from one program to the other and to keep my tags intact. A user on the Digikam mailing list had mentioned that he would like to tag his photos 'in the field' on his laptop and to import them into the program when he gets home. I think that a kipi Import/ Export feature would solve both our problems. It would create an XML file similar to this: People*Ester People*Studies*Eli People*Studies*Anna Place*Haifa People*Ester People*Dotan People*Army*Jacob Place*Jerusalem This can easily be imported by any application, and it provides for hierarchical tags. (levels seperated by asteriks) What does the F-spot community think of this? Would you like to be able to work on the tags on the go and to import them later? And to easily move from application to application? This would also provide a secure way to back up the current sqlite database in an accessable manner. (any text editor could open it) Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com 332 From bengt at thuree.com Fri Jun 16 19:29:56 2006 From: bengt at thuree.com (Bengt Thuree) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:29:56 +1000 Subject: Importing photos with tags In-Reply-To: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 11:37 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I have several hundered photos that were tagged in a Windows program > (BrilliantPhoto). I can extract the tags with a script and create an > XML file or SQL dump for the tags. How can I then import that into the > F-spot database? Any documentation on the F-spot database would be > helpful. > > Thanks in advance. > Hi there are two patches in bugzilla that enable importing existing GThumb metadata, and iView Media Pro meta data (in fact also existing F-Spot meta data). http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322366 - GThumb tags http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 - F-Spot tags Perhaps you can write a small patch your self? And create a bug in bugzilla and attach it to :) /Bengt From jordan.d.miller at gmail.com Sun Jun 18 07:10:27 2006 From: jordan.d.miller at gmail.com (Jordan Miller) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:10:27 -0500 Subject: F-spot user forum Message-ID: I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot Project page if there isn't one already. I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum structure. Thoughts, Jordan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/f-spot-list/attachments/20060618/83ec89fa/attachment.htm From drberg1000 at gmail.com Sun Jun 18 11:03:41 2006 From: drberg1000 at gmail.com (David Berg) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:03:41 -0500 Subject: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > Project page if there isn't one already. I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as familiar with the programming tools. --Dave > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > structure. > > Thoughts, > > Jordan > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > From ken at vandine.org Sun Jun 18 13:33:52 2006 From: ken at vandine.org (Ken VanDine) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:33:52 -0400 Subject: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> Actually, f-spot.org is a wiki. MediaWiki to be precise. I know MW has support for a forum like commenting system. Not sure what folks thing about using that. --Ken On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 10:03 -0500, David Berg wrote: > On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > > Project page if there isn't one already. > > I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow > documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as > familiar with the programming tools. > > --Dave > > > > > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > > structure. > > > > Thoughts, > > > > Jordan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list at gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From bengt at thuree.com Sun Jun 18 18:53:26 2006 From: bengt at thuree.com (Bengt Thuree) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:53:26 +1000 Subject: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1150671206.5383.3.camel@workie.thuree.com> On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 10:03 -0500, David Berg wrote: > On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > > Project page if there isn't one already. > > I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow > documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as > familiar with the programming tools. f-spot.org is a wiki.... > > --Dave > > > > > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > > structure. > > > > Thoughts, > > > > Jordan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list at gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From alexandre.prokoudine at gmail.com Sun Jun 18 19:49:16 2006 From: alexandre.prokoudine at gmail.com (Alexandre Prokoudine) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:49:16 +0400 Subject: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <733f2c730606181649t6dc94c14s1c97d0c9d48b301a@mail.gmail.com> On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > structure. Why would you choose forum over existing wiki for storing ideas? Alexandre From colin at marquardt-home.de Sun Jun 18 19:59:33 2006 From: colin at marquardt-home.de (Colin Marquardt) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:59:33 +0200 Subject: F-spot user forum References: Message-ID: "Jordan Miller" writes: > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > Project page if there isn't one already. > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > structure. If you think more about searching and reading, how's this?: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.f-spot/1578 Cheers, Colin From drberg1000 at gmail.com Sun Jun 18 22:51:02 2006 From: drberg1000 at gmail.com (David Berg) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:51:02 -0500 Subject: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> Message-ID: On 6/18/06, Ken VanDine wrote: > Actually, f-spot.org is a wiki. MediaWiki to be precise. I know MW has > support for a forum like commenting system. Not sure what folks thing > about using that. Looking closer at the website I do see that it says MediaWiki. Though there doesn't seem to be any way to create an account. The "Create an Account or Log In" link doesn't allow for account creation. I guess I'm also not used to sites where information can only be accessed through searching for it or using a direct link. Perhaps a mechanism to browse the wiki would be useful. Perhaps I'm missing something when navigating the website but by looking at the main pages and a few of the ones they link to I don't see anything that would indicate there is more to the site than what I can see by browsing. --Dave > --Ken > > > On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 10:03 -0500, David Berg wrote: > > On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > > > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > > > Project page if there isn't one already. > > > > I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow > > documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as > > familiar with the programming tools. > > > > --Dave > > > > > > > > > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > > > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > > > structure. > > > > > > Thoughts, > > > > > > Jordan > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > F-spot-list mailing list > > > F-spot-list at gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list at gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Jun 19 00:38:39 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:38:39 +0300 Subject: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> I would be willing to run an f-spot FAQ site if someone would help me verify the correctness of the answers. Anybody who is interested can email me off list. My last wiki project turned into a hammer-the-spammer chase. If anybody has any questions with answers for a FAQ, then email them to me. I'll start compiling them and put them on a website. I haven't yet registered a name, but as soon as I see interest in the site from the list members I'll register one and get it started. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com From alexandre.prokoudine at gmail.com Mon Jun 19 01:41:16 2006 From: alexandre.prokoudine at gmail.com (Alexandre Prokoudine) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:41:16 +0400 Subject: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> On 6/19/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I would be willing to run an f-spot FAQ site if someone would help me > verify the correctness of the answers. Anybody who is interested can > email me off list. > > My last wiki project turned into a hammer-the-spammer chase. If > anybody has any questions with answers for a FAQ, then email them to > me. I'll start compiling them and put them on a website. I haven't yet > registered a name, but as soon as I see interest in the site from the > list members I'll register one and get it started. Why on Earth? We can simply grant you commit access to wiki. Alexandre From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Jun 19 02:10:05 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:10:05 +0300 Subject: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> On 19/06/06, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > > Why on Earth? > > We can simply grant you commit access to wiki. > > Alexandre Have you seen what fedorafaq.org has done for Fedora? It's all the same information that is available in Fedora's wiki, but in a Q/A format on a single page. Also, and this may sound rediculous but it's true, having both the wiki and a seperate FAQ site is two sites supporting f-spot, rather than one. Even if they have mostly the same information. That's important for people googling solutions or considering a switch to fspot. I, for one, have reservations about switching to a product with very little in the way of online documentation. This will add to the amount of online documentation resources available to the community. I don't want to replace the wiki, rather to make a seperate source of information that is more concice and easier to digest. Dotan Cohen From bengt at thuree.com Sat Jun 17 17:36:16 2006 From: bengt at thuree.com (Bengt Thuree) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:36:16 +1000 Subject: Import/ Export of tags In-Reply-To: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1150580177.6150.24.camel@workie.thuree.com> On Sat, 2006-06-17 at 19:21 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > As I'm trying to decide which photo organiser to use (between DigiKam, > F-spot, and KPhotoAlbum) I would really appreciate the ability to move > photos from one program to the other and to keep my tags intact. A > user on the Digikam mailing list had mentioned that he would like to > tag his photos 'in the field' on his laptop and to import them into > the program when he gets home. I think that a kipi Import/ Export > feature would solve both our problems. It would create an XML file > similar to this: > > > People*Ester > People*Studies*Eli > People*Studies*Anna > Place*Haifa > > > > People*Ester > People*Dotan > People*Army*Jacob > Place*Jerusalem > Where should this file be. Same place as the photo? or other place? One file per photo, same as GThumb does it, or one file for all photos? Could be great to have it implemented with the new Plugin feature though :) So, with this way, you are not allowed to use a "*" as a character in any of your tags I take it? > > This can easily be imported by any application, and it provides for > hierarchical tags. (levels seperated by asteriks) > > What does the F-spot community think of this? Would you like to be > able to work on the tags on the go and to import them later? And to > easily move from application to application? This would also provide a > secure way to back up the current sqlite database in an accessable > manner. (any text editor could open it) In my humble opinion there is only one place to definitely store the tags to ensure that they follow the picture and that the tags are readable by any application. That would be embedded inside the photo in a standard way. Like EXIF/XMP. Then you do not need to worry about the tag file dissapears or (in your case) the photo location changes. Not to mention worry about what happends over the years, since EXIF/XMP follows the standard, then that should be as future proof we can get. This is one of the main reason I choose to go with F-Spot, since the other applications you mentioned do not store the tags embedded inside the photo (yet). Me, it is not always I travel with a laptop, but I have a portable harddisk which I store the photos on. If you want to tag photos on the field on your laptop, why not simply tag them directly in F-Spot in that case? Regarding backing up the SQlite database by storing the tags in an XML file, I do not think so. The SQlite database contains already more information than only the tags, and this will likely just increase. The main place for the tags to be backed up, would be that they are backed up together with the photo since the tags are stored embedded inside the photo also. As I mentioned above. This would be a great feature for the new plugin method some are working on. My humble AUD 0.02 cent /Bengt From mvermaat at cs.vu.nl Mon Jun 19 06:59:27 2006 From: mvermaat at cs.vu.nl (Martijn Vermaat) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:59:27 +0200 Subject: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1150714768.5522.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Op ma, 19-06-2006 te 09:10 +0300, schreef Dotan Cohen: > Also, and this may sound rediculous but it's true, having both the > wiki and a seperate FAQ site is two sites supporting f-spot, rather > than one. Even if they have mostly the same information. That's > important for people googling solutions or considering a switch to > fspot. I, for one, have reservations about switching to a product with > very little in the way of online documentation. This will add to the > amount of online documentation resources available to the community. While I appreciate your enthousiasm, you should be carefull with this. As an example, in the Ubuntu community I see more and more problems originating from 'third-party' documentation. Sometimes it's someone's ego, sometimes they just don't know how to contribute to the official sources, but documentation scattered around the web is a problem for a number of reasons: * Unfortunately, a lot of howto's and tutorials are of questionable quality and advocate bad practice solutions. There's no way for the project to control this. * Maintainability is a problem. New versions of the software require updated documentation. * Almost never are these howto's and tutorials available in more than one language. The official documentation for Ubuntu gets translated by the translation teams. F-Spot has not translated its homepage I think, but it could in the future. * Last but not least, duplicate efforts are often a waste of time, especially when the official source for documentation could have been improved and/or the alternative source is harder to find. Some alternative sources of documentation don't suffer from most or all of these problems, but I know that all these problems are serious for the Ubuntu community. I don't think other projects are different. > I don't want to replace the wiki, rather to make a seperate source of > information that is more concice and easier to digest. Why not add some sort of FAQ page to the wiki in the form you envision? If people really need it, I think you would certainly be allowed to work on that. -- Martijn Vermaat mvermaat at cs.vu.nl http://www.cs.vu.nl/~mvermaat/ From dkoeb at ist.tugraz.at Mon Jun 19 16:10:24 2006 From: dkoeb at ist.tugraz.at (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Daniel_K=F6b?=) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:10:24 +0200 Subject: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> Message-ID: Am 19.06.2006 um 04:51 schrieb David Berg: > I guess I'm also not used to sites where information can only be > accessed through searching for it or using a direct link. Perhaps a > mechanism to browse the wiki would be useful. Maybe you find one of these pages useful: http://f-spot.org/Special:Specialpages Daniel From photogeekmtl at gmail.com Mon Jun 19 21:58:04 2006 From: photogeekmtl at gmail.com (Warren Baird) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:58:04 -0400 Subject: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Dotan Cohen wrote: > Have you seen what fedorafaq.org has done for Fedora? It's all the > same information that is available in Fedora's wiki, but in a Q/A > format on a single page. > > Also, and this may sound rediculous but it's true, having both the > wiki and a seperate FAQ site is two sites supporting f-spot, rather > than one. Even if they have mostly the same information. That's > important for people googling solutions or considering a switch to > fspot. I, for one, have reservations about switching to a product with > very little in the way of online documentation. This will add to the > amount of online documentation resources available to the community. I think this sounds pretty dangerous. F-spot is a great product, and I don't think having a second artificially created website will make it any more accepted or popular. Also, I think it would be bad to have a FAQ maintained separately from the main website - it would mean that the core contributors would have to log into two places to maintain things. Any time you put documentation in two places, you greatly increase the likelyhood of it going out of sync. However, having a FAQ section/page on the current site would be wonderful, and if you are still interested in doing it, I think that would be great! Warren From bengt at thuree.com Tue Jun 20 03:02:33 2006 From: bengt at thuree.com (Bengt Thuree) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:02:33 +0900 (JST) Subject: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Message-ID: <15179.194.237.142.21.1150786953.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> On Ti, 2006-06-20, 10:58, Warren Baird skrev: > Dotan Cohen wrote: >> Have you seen what fedorafaq.org has done for Fedora? It's all the >> same information that is available in Fedora's wiki, but in a Q/A >> format on a single page. >> > > I think this sounds pretty dangerous. F-spot is a great product, and I > don't think having a second artificially created website will make it > any more accepted or popular. Definitely second this > > Also, I think it would be bad to have a FAQ maintained separately from > the main website - it would mean that the core contributors would have > to log into two places to maintain things. Again, definitely second this > However, having a FAQ section/page on the current site would be > wonderful, and if you are still interested in doing it, I think that > would be great! Just to repeat myself... Again, definitely second this To have the same material in many places will just cause a lot of problems. On the other hand, having reviews of F-Spot, or links to F-Spot in many places would be very nice. Another thing I have been thinking of, is to create a Concept Guide (and perhaps a Help manual). If you are unsure what I am talking about, please check GnuCash concept guide. Here is the link to the CVS version. http://cvs.gnucash.org/docs/guide/ This is created in DocBook format, and is easily converted to Gnome help format, can be read by Yelp, can be converted to PDF as well as to TXT format. But, perhaps best to wait a bit until F-Spot gets a bit closer to 1.0? Then again, we should be able to come up with wich chapters we should have, and fill in general things, and possible more detailed information as well. The bad thing though, the more detailed the information is, the more often you will have to change since F-Spot is still under heavy development... My small 0.02 cents... /Bengt From stephane at delcroix.org Tue Jun 20 03:16:03 2006 From: stephane at delcroix.org (Stephane Delcroix) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:16:03 +0200 Subject: F-Spot plug-ins Message-ID: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> Hi everyone, I'm quite proud to give you this patch, adding support for loading plug-ins into F-Spot. I'll submit it to b.g.o. soon. For now, all Plugins in all .dll in $HOME/.gnome2/f-spot/plugins are loaded, but I plan to write another plugin to enable them at will. The patch include Thomas's solution to #344534, so you can compile plug-ins from outside the source tree using: mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot MyPlugin.cs Find also attached below 2 plugins, one displaying a dialog about plugins, and a first Export Plug-in, for sending mail (the export code is just a cut and paste from F-Spot core code). Those 2 plugins compile with: mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 DialogPlugin.cs mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 SendMailPlugin.cs It's a first and very early version, so write a lot of comments about it... rgds, Stephane -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi I have a pretty big image database (about 12k photos) with fairly complex meta-data maintained in KPhotoAlbum. I've been eying F-spot for a while, since it has a very active community, looks pretty and seems quite nice to use. I'm quite excited by F-spot's ability to handle picture versions and RAW files. I also prefer GNOME apps all else being equal. KPhotoAlbum is not quite as smooth, but it's interface seems more "scalable" to me, while F-spot tries (and manages very well) to make easy stuff easy. I don't think scalable and easy need to be mutually exclusive though. I'll list some features in KPhotoAlbum that I find makes it very useful for large/complex collections, and why they are useful. Perhaps I can convince the right people that it may be useful to implement something similar (if not identical) in F-Spot. These comments refer to F-Spot 0.1.11, as shipped with Ubuntu Dapper. I'll refer to KPhotoAlbum as KP from here on to save typing. Separate "Namespaces" ===================== F-spot seems to require the last level of a tag to be unique. Besides offending my personal sense of logical aesthetics, it also poses practical problems ;P In KP, each top-level tag is called a Category, and the tags within each Category are completely independent. In my KP database I have a "People" category for people visible in the photo, and a "Photographer" category for the person who took the picture. Of course People can also be Photographers, but usually not at the same time. Also the total number of photographers aren't the same as the total number of people. It's also possible that unrelated tags can coincidentally have the same name. E.g. if you travel all over the world and meet people from all over the world, it's not unlikely that some placename in one country may be the same as someones name in another. In fact, identical placenames are quite common. Places.USA.Alabama.Greenville is not the same as Places.USA.California.Greenville (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cities#Most_common_city_names for more fun.) One can disambiguate by having Greenville_CA, but I already told you it's in California, damnit ;) Actually this is a problem in KP as well, since it's doesn't do any hierarchy within a category. It does have membership groups that does something similar, but that does not solve this problem. Membership Groups ----------------- I think F-Spot's hierarchical tags can fill the same need, but I'll describe them so its clear what I'm talking about. I'll use the Places category as an example. Say the location is "Friendly Bob's House" in Pinelands (the town), Western Cape (the state), South Africa. In KP I can make the location "South Africa" a membership group. Then I can assign all the states in South Africa (that I have in my DB anyway) to this group (e.g. Western Cape, Gauteng, etc.). Then I make Western Cape another membership group, and assign all the cities to it (e.g. Pinelands, Cape Town, etc.). I make Pinelands a membership group, and add "Friendly Bob's house" to it. Now I tag the picture with only "Friendly Bob's house". Because of the membership groups, KP knows the picture also belongs to "Pinelands", "Western Cape" and "South Africa", and will be found by searches on any of those 4 locations. Of course, Locations.South Africa.Western Cape.Pinelands would do just as well. It will also be more explicit (good), and if F-Spot supported it, would be separate from Locations.South Africa.Kwazulu Natal.Pinelands (which also exists!) Default "And" searching ======================= >From reading the list it seems that F-Spot will get more searching options soon, but IMHO if you can have only one choice, "and" would be better than "or". I hope that when the more featureful searching comes, there will be an easy way to make the default "and". Restrict Tags when Searching ============================ This kind of goes together with the default "and" searching. KP's main interface shows you a list of top level tags, along with how many entries each has. e.g. Locations - 10 People - 6 Then you select People -> "Friendly Bob" You can then look at all the pictures containing Bob, or keep selecting search tags. However, all the tags that never occur with Bob are removed, e.g. Locations - 4 People - 3 I.o.w. you see only the Locations that Bob's been photographed at and only the people that have been photographed with Bob. Now select Locations -> "Friendly Bob's House", and look at the pictures of Bob at his house, or continue: Locations (greyed out, since there are no others) People - 2 Then you could choose to look at pictures of Bob with his wife, or Bob with his son. I like this feature for two reasons. 1) If you're and-searching, there's no point in seeing the tags that will result in no pictures being found. 2) Its nice to see, for instance, how many people you have photographed at a certain location. Scalable Tag Selection ====================== It's hard to compare KP directly to F-Spot here, since the interface paradigms are quite different, so I'll just sketch my problem. In KP I have 9 Categories (i.e. top level tags), and some of them have many subtags. E.g. Events - 143 Keywords - 21 Locations - 237 Persons - 203 Photographer - 33 I've only had a camera for about two years, but found I like both photography and detailed tagging. I'm sure these numbers will have grown considerably in 10 years time! I will always have at least one tag from each of the 5 categories I listed here attached to every picture, so it is critical that tags can be selected from a large selection easily. KP makes the default way of finding a tag incremental search, and also sorts tags in order of last use by default. It also manages each category completely separately which means the 100's of "Persons" tags don't make it hard to pick a tag from the "Keywords" category. While I haven't dealt with that many tags in F-Spot, my feeling is the tag toolbar/tree on the left of F-Spot will be fairly well suited to dealing with many tags. Other places, where there are flat lists with all tag hierarchies exploded, will probably be unpleasant to use. What I'd need to switch ======================= Like you care ;P Anyway, my needs in order of priority are 1) "Fully qualified" tag uniqueness (i.e. People.A != Places.A) 2) "And" searching 3) Tag Restrictions while and-searching 4) Improved UI for selecting from large numbers of tags 1) is completely critical, since I can't losslesly move my current data into F-Spot without it. 2) is pretty important. 3) and 4) would be nice to have, but not that important. If other people think it's a good idea, should I make feature requests on the F-spot bugzilla, or how should I go ahead? Thanks for listening Neilen -- you know its kind of tragic we live in the new world but we've lost the magic -- Battery 9 (www.battery9.co.za) From stephane at delcroix.org Tue Jun 20 05:37:26 2006 From: stephane at delcroix.org (Stephane Delcroix) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:37:26 +0200 Subject: F-Spot plug-ins In-Reply-To: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> References: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1150796247.5909.31.camel@localhost> the bug in b.g.o.: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345395 On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 09:16 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm quite proud to give you this patch, adding support for loading > plug-ins into F-Spot. I'll submit it to b.g.o. soon. > > For now, all Plugins in all .dll in $HOME/.gnome2/f-spot/plugins are > loaded, but I plan to write another plugin to enable them at will. > > The patch include Thomas's solution to #344534, so you can compile > plug-ins from outside the source tree using: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot MyPlugin.cs > > Find also attached below 2 plugins, one displaying a dialog about > plugins, and a first Export Plug-in, for sending mail (the export code > is just a cut and paste from F-Spot core code). > > Those 2 plugins compile with: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 DialogPlugin.cs > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 SendMailPlugin.cs > > It's a first and very early version, so write a lot of comments about > it... > > rgds, > > Stephane > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list -- Stephane Delcroix stephane at delcroix.org From bengt at thuree.com Tue Jun 20 06:30:26 2006 From: bengt at thuree.com (Bengt Thuree) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:30:26 +1000 Subject: F-Spot plug-ins In-Reply-To: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> References: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1150799426.5458.0.camel@workie.thuree.com> On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 09:16 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm quite proud to give you this patch, adding support for loading > plug-ins into F-Spot. I'll submit it to b.g.o. soon. > > For now, all Plugins in all .dll in $HOME/.gnome2/f-spot/plugins are > loaded, but I plan to write another plugin to enable them at will. > > The patch include Thomas's solution to #344534, so you can compile > plug-ins from outside the source tree using: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot MyPlugin.cs > > Find also attached below 2 plugins, one displaying a dialog about > plugins, and a first Export Plug-in, for sending mail (the export code > is just a cut and paste from F-Spot core code). > > Those 2 plugins compile with: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 DialogPlugin.cs > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 SendMailPlugin.cs > > It's a first and very early version, so write a lot of comments about > it... > hier > rgds, > > Stephane Congratulations :) Looks good to me, not the best on plugins though. Would it be easy to add plugins for any part of F-Spot, or only for Export? /Bengt From stephane at delcroix.org Tue Jun 20 07:48:43 2006 From: stephane at delcroix.org (Stephane Delcroix) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:48:43 +0200 Subject: Big Collections/Complex Meta-data/Is F-Spot (going to be) for me? In-Reply-To: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1150804124.5909.60.camel@localhost> Hi, Some of your needs are already work in progress. Check http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338558 for fully-qualified tag uniqueness, it's a strong request but solving it will require re-coding the 'Tag Typing'. Check http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139796 for advanced queries. It's one of the oldest bug request / patch in f-spot. You can CC your email address to follow the discussion about them. I like the idea of displaying more info about the selection (items per tag, ...). You can probably submit a enhancement request in bugzilla and attach a mockup of the UI. As always in F-Spot, the problem is not writing code to solve an issue, it's about writing good code and give the user a nice experience. Thanks for your report, Stephane On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 11:12 +0200, Neilen Marais wrote: > Hi > > I have a pretty big image database (about 12k photos) with fairly > complex meta-data maintained in KPhotoAlbum. I've been eying F-spot for > a while, since it has a very active community, looks pretty and seems > quite nice to use. I'm quite excited by F-spot's ability to handle > picture versions and RAW files. I also prefer GNOME apps all else being > equal. > > KPhotoAlbum is not quite as smooth, but it's interface seems more > "scalable" to me, while F-spot tries (and manages very well) to make > easy stuff easy. I don't think scalable and easy need to be mutually > exclusive though. > > I'll list some features in KPhotoAlbum that I find makes it very useful > for large/complex collections, and why they are useful. Perhaps I can > convince the right people that it may be useful to implement something > similar (if not identical) in F-Spot. > > These comments refer to F-Spot 0.1.11, as shipped with Ubuntu Dapper. > I'll refer to KPhotoAlbum as KP from here on to save typing. > > Separate "Namespaces" > ===================== > > F-spot seems to require the last level of a tag to be unique. Besides > offending my personal sense of logical aesthetics, it also poses > practical problems ;P > > In KP, each top-level tag is called a Category, and the tags within each > Category are completely independent. In my KP database I have a "People" > category for people visible in the photo, and a "Photographer" category > for the person who took the picture. Of course People can also be > Photographers, but usually not at the same time. Also the total number > of photographers aren't the same as the total number of people. > > It's also possible that unrelated tags can coincidentally have the same > name. E.g. if you travel all over the world and meet people from all > over the world, it's not unlikely that some placename in one country may > be the same as someones name in another. > > In fact, identical placenames are quite common. > Places.USA.Alabama.Greenville is not the same as > Places.USA.California.Greenville (see > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cities#Most_common_city_names for > more fun.) One can disambiguate by having Greenville_CA, but I already > told you it's in California, damnit ;) > > Actually this is a problem in KP as well, since it's doesn't do any > hierarchy within a category. It does have membership groups that does > something similar, but that does not solve this problem. > > Membership Groups > ----------------- > > I think F-Spot's hierarchical tags can fill the same need, but I'll > describe them so its clear what I'm talking about. > > I'll use the Places category as an example. Say the location is > "Friendly Bob's House" in Pinelands (the town), Western Cape (the > state), South Africa. In KP I can make the location "South Africa" a > membership group. Then I can assign all the states in South Africa (that > I have in my DB anyway) to this group (e.g. Western Cape, Gauteng, > etc.). Then I make Western Cape another membership group, and assign all > the cities to it (e.g. Pinelands, Cape Town, etc.). I make Pinelands a > membership group, and add "Friendly Bob's house" to it. > > Now I tag the picture with only "Friendly Bob's house". Because of the > membership groups, KP knows the picture also belongs to "Pinelands", > "Western Cape" and "South Africa", and will be found by searches on any > of those 4 locations. > > Of course, Locations.South Africa.Western Cape.Pinelands would do just > as well. It will also be more explicit (good), and if F-Spot supported > it, would be separate from Locations.South Africa.Kwazulu > Natal.Pinelands (which also exists!) > > Default "And" searching > ======================= > > >From reading the list it seems that F-Spot will get more searching > options soon, but IMHO if you can have only one choice, "and" would be > better than "or". I hope that when the more featureful searching comes, > there will be an easy way to make the default "and". > > Restrict Tags when Searching > ============================ > > This kind of goes together with the default "and" searching. KP's main > interface shows you a list of top level tags, along with how many > entries each has. e.g. > > Locations - 10 > People - 6 > > Then you select People -> "Friendly Bob" > > You can then look at all the pictures containing Bob, or keep selecting > search tags. However, all the tags that never occur with Bob are > removed, e.g. > > Locations - 4 > People - 3 > > I.o.w. you see only the Locations that Bob's been photographed at and > only the people that have been photographed with Bob. > > Now select Locations -> "Friendly Bob's House", > > and look at the pictures of Bob at his house, or continue: > > Locations (greyed out, since there are no others) > People - 2 > > Then you could choose to look at pictures of Bob with his wife, or Bob > with his son. > > I like this feature for two reasons. > > 1) If you're and-searching, there's no point in seeing the tags that > will result in no pictures being found. > 2) Its nice to see, for instance, how many people you have photographed > at a certain location. > > Scalable Tag Selection > ====================== > > It's hard to compare KP directly to F-Spot here, since the > interface paradigms are quite different, so I'll just sketch my problem. > In KP I have 9 Categories (i.e. top level tags), and some of them have > many subtags. E.g. > > Events - 143 > Keywords - 21 > Locations - 237 > Persons - 203 > Photographer - 33 > > I've only had a camera for about two years, but found I like both > photography and detailed tagging. I'm sure these numbers will have grown > considerably in 10 years time! > > I will always have at least one tag from each of the 5 categories I > listed here attached to every picture, so it is critical that tags can > be selected from a large selection easily. KP makes the default way of > finding a tag incremental search, and also sorts tags in order of last > use by default. It also manages each category completely separately > which means the 100's of "Persons" tags don't make it hard to pick a tag > from the "Keywords" category. > > While I haven't dealt with that many tags in F-Spot, my feeling is the > tag toolbar/tree on the left of F-Spot will be fairly well suited to > dealing with many tags. Other places, where there are flat lists with > all tag hierarchies exploded, will probably be unpleasant to use. > > What I'd need to switch > ======================= > > Like you care ;P Anyway, my needs in order of priority are > > 1) "Fully qualified" tag uniqueness (i.e. People.A != Places.A) > 2) "And" searching > 3) Tag Restrictions while and-searching > 4) Improved UI for selecting from large numbers of tags > > 1) is completely critical, since I can't losslesly move my current data > into F-Spot without it. > 2) is pretty important. > > 3) and 4) would be nice to have, but not that important. > > If other people think it's a good idea, should I make feature requests > on the F-spot bugzilla, or how should I go ahead? > > Thanks for listening > Neilen > -- Stephane Delcroix stephane at delcroix.org From bengt at thuree.com Tue Jun 20 08:46:50 2006 From: bengt at thuree.com (Bengt Thuree) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:46:50 +1000 Subject: IPTC Tags In-Reply-To: <880dece00606190501r3cfac1fbp86b66427944c2f81@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> <1150580384.6150.28.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606190501r3cfac1fbp86b66427944c2f81@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1150807610.5458.5.camel@workie.thuree.com> Hi I tested it a bit, and F-Spot do read (in MetaData browser) the Keyword field. But none of the others (as I read somewhere on the web, they are not following the standard IPTC standard.) Hopefully, you can still base your patch on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 and get it to work with IPTC files. Check IptcFile.cs also. Good luck. /Bengt From drberg1000@gmail.com Thu Jun 1 16:52:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958A93B0F4A for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:52:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06048-01 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:52:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hu-out-0102.google.com (hu-out-0102.google.com [72.14.214.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3787B3B0ED4 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:52:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by hu-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 34so247599hud for ; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=NEGjo8B1W4NOeZWtu5DW/YakZNml0x/lbol/wmYlvQRwF8F/Pnn7fOGI1ReFkcUpUx/N7cv6Gzz1em5R8EZDrVmlxaAxMKgjCqNHKLTQCUOKO6YFgYWoMcwjqhLliGkH/D6IBiA3/woQRJsvNrBZoEAJdXFx3ARxQyXhMVSp014= Received: by 10.35.76.9 with SMTP id d9mr1612366pyl; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.86.11 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:52:45 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Rotation descriptions X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 20:52:48 -0000 I'm wondering why "Rotate Left" and "Rotate Right" were chosen to describe the commands instead of "Rotate Clockwise" and "Rotate Counterclockwise". The best I can guess is length of the words. If thats the case, here's a little antecdotal feed back on usability. It wasn't until I was half through writing this e-mail that I noticed the small little icons noted which direction the image would be rotated. I am having a difficult time remembering if it is the top of the photo or the bottom of the photo that moves. Personally, I think it would be clearer if a larger arrow and/or Clockwise/Counterclockwise were used. Just my $0.02 --Dave From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Thu Jun 1 18:53:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64483B0061 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:53:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11537-10 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:53:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E693B0072 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:53:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so283419uge for ; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=h05J7wusko7OClEUYg5fXPI0GaXbUNidt/pmzwguU8WHvw+Dm2D0/dTlJXp1XeHpqS8v0I1HiLEafebe2XUTZDctNPvMdpNR8UCHizTUIZd0GNeu8nLqLPegyiUjyRf4on8+C8n/DfyFj92omS7JeF3wwlzRwdpnQVBC9Agax6E= Received: by 10.67.105.19 with SMTP id h19mr207408ugm; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606011553t6fe9beccpa31aea24fab46df9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 02:53:32 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.056 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.056 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Rotation descriptions X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 22:53:37 -0000 On 6/2/06, David Berg wrote: > I'm wondering why "Rotate Left" and "Rotate Right" were chosen to > describe the commands instead of "Rotate Clockwise" and "Rotate > Counterclockwise". The best I can guess is length of the words. If > thats the case, here's a little antecdotal feed back on usability. > > It wasn't until I was half through writing this e-mail that I noticed > the small little icons noted which direction the image would be > rotated. I am having a difficult time remembering if it is the top of > the photo or the bottom of the photo that moves. Personally, I think > it would be clearer if a larger arrow and/or > Clockwise/Counterclockwise were used. Indeed. They are usually cut to Rotate CW and Rotate CCW. And we can still provide hints for menu items to explain what CW/CCW mean for those who doesn't know. Alexandre From stephane@delcroix.org Fri Jun 2 10:07:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24413B1144 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:07:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30984-09 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:07:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 26.mail-out.ovh.net (26.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.42.179]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEAA43B10B6 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:06:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12848 invoked by uid 503); 2 Jun 2006 14:06:59 -0000 Received: (QMFILT: 1.0); 02 Jun 2006 14:06:59 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail44.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 26.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2006 14:06:59 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2006 14:06:50 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2006 14:06:48 -0000 From: Stephane Delcroix To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:08:21 +0200 Message-Id: <1149257301.7904.10.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.951 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.513, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -1.951 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Bug 318376 =?utf-8?b?4oCT?= JPEG saving ignores original quality X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:07:09 -0000 Do not choose default for the user anymore... just try to guess the original compression factor ! I've submitted a patch, based on jpegdump, adding that ability to f-spot. the bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318376 the comment: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318376#c9 the patch: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=66658&action=view Regards, Stephane From drberg1000@gmail.com Fri Jun 2 16:07:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3953B02BE for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:07:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21051-09 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9213B0491 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id x31so1203953pye for ; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:07:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Dd1NExlSLCwENNgvGHiBKyq4GBjy1u9EDTVzZGfr8dRyg0Tfy+CDWxtNTc0+Rce2OCGeqeBhzjtgGYCuSi8LGN9IHypVYY0vEVKspoOxfbn3vIdUixBNiuS36NZcu+jSwtWDdi5ECcmKxlPqQaE/kndLzA2yCnU/IOuS99mGeMs= Received: by 10.35.49.4 with SMTP id b4mr2824500pyk; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.86.11 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 13:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 15:07:51 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.543 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.432, BAYES_05=-1.11, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.543 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 20:07:57 -0000 Is there a way to find photos containing "Tag X" AND "Tag Y" instead of the default OR search? It would be really nice to be able to write more complex queries. --Dave From fred@uh.cu Fri Jun 2 17:06:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0933B006F for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:06:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24674-04 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:06:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from proxy2.uh.cu (proxy2.uh.cu [200.55.139.213]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5123B042A for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:06:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy2.uh.cu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4D12FCEB for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:03:26 -0400 (AST) Received: from comuh.uh.cu (comuh.uh.cu [10.6.100.69]) by proxy2.uh.cu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C192FCE5 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:03:26 -0400 (AST) Received: from comuh (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by comuh.uh.cu (Postfix) with SMTP id 50CBB1680DE for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:58:37 -0400 (CDT) Received: from hogwarts.reduh.uh.cu (hogwarts.reduh.uh.cu [10.6.70.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EXP1024-RC4-SHA (56/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by comuh.uh.cu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337D91680D5 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:58:37 -0400 (CDT) From: Yoanis Gil Delgado Organization: Universidad de la Habana Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:05:48 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary-00=_wgKgEOjcTDYK+xh" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020300 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.923 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.676, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_10_20=1.351, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.923 X-Spam-Level: Subject: My first experiences with f-spot X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 21:06:50 -0000 --Boundary-00=_wgKgEOjcTDYK+xh Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi list!!! . My name is Yoanis Gil Delgado and I'm studying Computers Science at the University of Havana. I want to thanks all of you for this great software. I spent some time classifying my pictures and these are some stuffs i missed: 1-) Multiple picture selection. See 4) 2-) Undo actions. Note i mean "action" and not a "picture editing action". A very common mistake(for me) is to attach the wrong tag to a picture. I though Ctrl+Z would solve the problem, but it did not worked. 3-) Which tags are associated to a file. I know that in browse mode every image has an overlay set of related tags. But, let says the image "Rose, Joe and Mary.jpg" belongs to 3 categories (Joe,Rose and Mary). Each of these categories are child of the People's category (yes, those are people names). In this example the overlay shows the same icons for the 3 categories(People's tag icon). So there is no way to know the categories names the image belongs at the very first look. Still would like to see, when in browse mode, the categories name in some place. 4-) Tags shorcuts. Use case: Lets say i have 4 main tags 1-) Rose 2-) Joe 3-) Mary 4-) Me and a collection of 100 photos of them. Among those i can find photos from Rose and Joe, Mary and Rose, Joe and Me and so on. In the version i'm using(0.1.11), i needed to make a lot of clicks to classify them. It would be nice if there is a way to assign a shortcut to every tag, so when i can tag images by making clicks. P.D: Sorry for the big talk and i hope i can put some code soon. --Boundary-00=_wgKgEOjcTDYK+xh Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi list!!! . My name is Yoanis Gil Delgado and I'm studying Computers Science at the University of Havana. I want to thanks all of you for this great software.

I spent some time classifying my pictures and these are some stuffs i missed:

1-) Multiple picture selection. See 4)

2-) Undo actions. Note i mean "action" and not a "picture editing action". A very common mistake(for me) is to attach the wrong tag to a picture. I though Ctrl+Z would solve the problem, but it did not worked.

3-) Which tags are associated to a file. I know that in browse mode every image has an overlay set of related tags. But, let says the image "Rose, Joe and Mary.jpg" belongs to 3 categories (Joe,Rose and Mary). Each of these categories are child of the People's category (yes, those are people names). In this example the overlay shows the same icons for the 3 categories(People's tag icon). So there is no way to know the categories names the image belongs at the very first look. Still would like to see, when in browse mode, the categories name in some place.

4-) Tags shorcuts. Use case:

Lets say i have 4 main tags

1-) Rose

2-) Joe

3-) Mary

4-) Me

and a collection of 100 photos of them. Among those i can find photos from Rose and Joe, Mary and Rose, Joe and Me and so on. In the version i'm using(0.1.11), i needed to make a lot of clicks to classify them. It would be nice if there is a way to assign a shortcut to every tag, so when i can tag images by making clicks.

P.D: Sorry for the big talk and i hope i can put some code soon.

--Boundary-00=_wgKgEOjcTDYK+xh-- From m.j.hutchinson@gmail.com Fri Jun 2 19:40:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37803B11CC for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:40:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31640-09 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:40:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6263B047B for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:40:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l37so1214960nfc for ; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:40:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iiVu5uNrvJwp3bSGHpJY9ba46wGigTLj4d0CNKf3K9X9qjj7f45EEOk/NXQZkkmcWjP5YcNM016eCNZLvxOhR0kf7shx9vFtXvQBFNaIp6Y/AJDZYQsn6zX/X9lRXAjMGv4zM1lFWDLQ91EZiTPEHIQSPx9zA+FhdFWS+1VP4c4= Received: by 10.49.14.18 with SMTP id r18mr2342590nfi; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.40.5 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 00:40:48 +0100 From: "Michael Hutchinson" To: "Yoanis Gil Delgado" In-Reply-To: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.431 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.169, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.431 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: My first experiences with f-spot X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 23:40:50 -0000 On 6/2/06, Yoanis Gil Delgado wrote: > > 1-) Multiple picture selection. See 4) Use Ctrl+Click to add to the selection, or Shift+Click to select a range. I don't know is this is present in the version you're using, but it's in SVN. > using(0.1.11), i needed to make a lot of clicks to classify them. It would > be nice if there is a way to assign a shortcut to every tag, so when i can > tag images by making clicks. There are two shortcuts here. Hitting 't' will allow you to edit the tags on the selected photo by typing, and this has tab completion and will create new tags if they don't already exist. The other way is to use the right-clcik context menu. This is very useful, as it can be applied to a multiple selection. Michael From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 06:10:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0AF3B0605 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:10:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27673-08 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:10:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C063B0433 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:10:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l37so1263551nfc for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:10:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=QWg9R1s3upux3E3ZVxS8WnCj530RszgrW9kojhh/YwvEMOozpK7yB+76ECSsqqN3Sq+fUMnc7tlCpalOfmWoyMjWItSBMcv0VX7PkMp+G1R6b4+7EUf/rQRUUgwtfvrkhA7JhkOhuU+jONyXV9lAGw3BsSAUOni818nPjHnI20M= Received: by 10.49.61.17 with SMTP id o17mr2648993nfk; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C1EDBE.access.telenet.be ( [84.193.237.190]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g1sm3276320nfe.2006.06.03.03.10.24; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:10:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: David Berg In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:10:22 +0200 Message-Id: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.213 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.387, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.213 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 10:10:28 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 15:07 -0500, David Berg wrote: > Is there a way to find photos containing "Tag X" AND "Tag Y" instead > of the default OR search? It would be really nice to be able to write > more complex queries. > It is not in current CVS head, but there is a separate branch (F_SPOT_QUERY) that allows you to do more complex queries, among which the one you describe. Regards, Thomas From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 10:46:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14C83B03FF for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 10:46:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10344-02 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 10:46:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.238]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E0A3B0118 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 10:46:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so719730wri for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 07:46:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=kAmiNJHc+odyyiJiIsZi2t7K50yq9Rc5ISUrp6OiqU7WZyQ1LhpACnx5+rGi/Ev/KIW3q+knFN8yPnW5Nc29bQnWbjrIqfBbRiF7KPfbQmUqIrtu8gLlCR/TZUWzsPcTIi7kOw3nADqHVsZMp3wtA/ri4OwGCoBCzakzOTvSEO4= Received: by 10.64.142.19 with SMTP id p19mr2487044qbd; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 07:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e17sm774698qba.2006.06.03.07.46.09; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 07:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4481A0AF.6090401@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 10:46:07 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list References: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 14:46:11 -0000 Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > It is not in current CVS head, but there is a separate branch > (F_SPOT_QUERY) that allows you to do more complex queries, among which > the one you describe. Speaking of which - does anyone know what the current status is on getting that merged back into head? I really like the complex queries, but as I'm still submitting patches periodically, it's easier to work from head. Anything I can do to accelerate the process? Warren From lewing@novell.com Sat Jun 3 12:17:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A793B0712 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:17:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14666-09 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922623B073B for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13734 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2006 16:17:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Jun 2006 16:17:31 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Warren Baird In-Reply-To: <4481A0AF.6090401@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> References: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> <4481A0AF.6090401@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 11:25:23 -0500 Message-Id: <1149351924.3587.68.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.462 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.063, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.462 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list Subject: Re: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 16:17:33 -0000 I hoping to start merging things into head starting sometime this coming week after I get a chance to look over everything that has stacked up. Hopefully the query branch will follow soon after that. Thanks to everyone who has been reviewing and submitting patches, it has been great to see so much activity. --Larry On Sat, 2006-06-03 at 10:46 -0400, Warren Baird wrote: > Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > It is not in current CVS head, but there is a separate branch > > (F_SPOT_QUERY) that allows you to do more complex queries, among which > > the one you describe. > > Speaking of which - does anyone know what the current status is on > getting that merged back into head? I really like the complex queries, > but as I'm still submitting patches periodically, it's easier to work > from head. > > Anything I can do to accelerate the process? > > Warren > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list From sebwrede@googlemail.com Sat Jun 3 06:56:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F683B04A9 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:56:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29573-07 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:56:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD283B0614 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l37so1267637nfc for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:56:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=googlemail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=qkX8H0Sn8uyrgknDvJ4t+5BdAHoAaMxiaMgSHcX92vQBj23tpxzDTa63SDFN9gSnyyfil5p774LWHD47kvBBQvmE+WJerUegmaptcBFcbPm08mwJOg8npnuHgXeJPjVkcvHNeNY7hSfuiT7JZKO4HvY+Z/NUfxVfi2x2FBuaObA= Received: by 10.48.221.15 with SMTP id t15mr641087nfg; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ( [84.61.8.82]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1sm3283429nfe.2006.06.03.03.56.11; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:56:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Sebastian Wrede To: Thomas Van Machelen In-Reply-To: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> References: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:56:09 +0200 Message-Id: <1149332169.9401.14.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:30:23 -0400 Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 10:56:15 -0000 Dear Thomas, dear F-Spot-Developers, First of all, I'd like to congratulate all of you to the great software you developed so far! F-Spot is really cool and very competitive compared to other tools in that area. As David and Thomas brought the topic up, I would like to ask a question that puzzles me frequently... Why does the F-Spot query patch not get integrated into the main branch? IMHO it provides already a really useful improvement over the existing query features. Do you have separate plans for an enhancement of the query functionality or are there other issues with it? Best regards, Sebastian Am Samstag, den 03.06.2006, 12:10 +0200 schrieb Thomas Van Machelen: > It is not in current CVS head, but there is a separate branch > (F_SPOT_QUERY) that allows you to do more complex queries, among which > the one you describe. > > Regards, > Thomas > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From lewing@novell.com Sat Jun 3 12:37:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199283B05AE for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:37:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15977-01 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE4A3B02FE for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:37:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13743 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2006 16:37:04 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Jun 2006 16:37:04 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Stephane Delcroix In-Reply-To: <1149257301.7904.10.camel@localhost> References: <1149257301.7904.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 11:45:07 -0500 Message-Id: <1149353107.3587.74.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.462 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.063, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.462 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Bug 318376 =?windows-1251?q?=96?= JPEG saving ignores original quality X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 16:37:07 -0000 I've only scanned the patch so far, but it makes me wonder how much of the jpegdump code is actually used for the quality guessing. F-Spot already includes code to handle marker parsing and it might make sense to just extract the portion that scans coefficients and integrate it with the other code. --Larry On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 16:08 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Do not choose default for the user anymore... just try to guess the > original compression factor ! > > I've submitted a patch, based on jpegdump, adding that ability to > f-spot. > > the bug: > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318376 > > the comment: > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318376#c9 > > the patch: > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=66658&action=view > > > Regards, > > Stephane > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list From gabriel.burt@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 20:51:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5B03B0383 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:51:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06189-06 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53A93B0317 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i3so763046wra for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:51:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bwnnhpe3zxbYkwmnuaLdPtnuBU7E+tqbOn8u4aSS9ikcTy1fIg+gu1eH7IvIxj7WXHT3eLK6zu0/LxJg6u3NVHSktwOeoz4AAnPFO63hdep/HQLF4cX7CyRndTFqqNJzY3kUOb2/Y2NiTLrpaNch6ctE/VMPzKjfiZtxo2JIFbs= Received: by 10.54.140.8 with SMTP id n8mr936028wrd; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.105.3 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 17:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <24348e0606031751j481b5d84xb82ca4926b5bf9f5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 19:51:10 -0500 From: "Gabriel Burt" To: "Tys von Gaza" In-Reply-To: <7749526e0605021653p37309326vacde825683cf432@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <7749526e0605021653p37309326vacde825683cf432@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.338 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.262, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.338 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem make installing X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 00:51:13 -0000 On 5/2/06, Tys von Gaza wrote: > I've got f-spot compling on ubuntu dapper but am running into the > following problem when running make install, any suggestions? > > Making install in po > make[1]: Entering directory `/home/tys/src/fspotcvs/f-spot/po' > make[1]: install_sh@: Command not found > make[1]: *** [install-data-yes] Error 127 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tys/src/fspotcvs/f-spot/po' > make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 Try doing sudo apt-get install build-essential Gabriel From gabriel.burt@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 20:52:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DF63B0383 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:52:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06566-03 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:52:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E7B3B00DF for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i3so763172wra for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:52:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ugI1/Z7LNnoQMDtF2kdSmXmMVm56AhNLgrA4LB0xrsEnFRfpv4ewoCJlfMqN2Nclg73MU3k8Cf7jx4ZZ9VEErdu4muS14jO5GPn6/sKu319m3lWobB5tvdt7bPBtTcyrCW9GSih+ZOqPw0Sveba/zPh2vGVZhMMJWik0rnE+8IE= Received: by 10.54.93.11 with SMTP id q11mr3486370wrb; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.105.3 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 17:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <24348e0606031752x550d2501g79bb93087d6726d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 19:52:41 -0500 From: "Gabriel Burt" To: "Frank Henderson" In-Reply-To: <4457837B.90604@twcny.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4457837B.90604@twcny.rr.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.351 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.249, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.351 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Uploading photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 00:52:43 -0000 On 5/2/06, Frank Henderson wrote: > Anybody got a suggestion as to why photos I send via email to individual > recipients don't arrive? Perhaps it's a problem with your mail client? Have you tried sending them to an address you can check to make sure it's not their client or misunderstanding? Gabriel From gabriel.burt@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 21:03:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724F83B0108 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 21:03:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06740-08 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 21:03:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.233]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65423B00DF for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 21:03:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i3so763886wra for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:03:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Eo9Ve9yzd40CCVkDG4O8wQzGTrLfLKFdm5rZI6NYOVXBck0rP0NBdB/66gqCwngfBCgX1/XmlCBcbBcomq5Gzy+hUWIngpPM7mW7r6SitB8eNKM4cXCFhOeoFrQ7vFqL6fnCYQ/KcHEq604MkA6lldOQh5oXuVFKTeMv4FH/Y1w= Received: by 10.54.80.16 with SMTP id d16mr3050549wrb; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.105.3 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 18:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <24348e0606031803h6493b93cof1a74f182c4b3fb8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:03:34 -0500 From: "Gabriel Burt" To: "Yoanis Gil Delgado" In-Reply-To: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.363 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.237, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.363 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: My first experiences with f-spot X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 01:03:39 -0000 On 6/2/06, Yoanis Gil Delgado wrote: > 2-) Undo actions. Note i mean "action" and not a "picture editing action". A > very common mistake(for me) is to attach the wrong tag to a picture. I > though Ctrl+Z would solve the problem, but it did not worked. Please file an enhancement bug report for this. > 3-) Which tags are associated to a file. I know that in browse mode every > image has an overlay set of related tags. But, let says the image "Rose, Joe > and Mary.jpg" belongs to 3 categories (Joe,Rose and Mary). Each of these > categories are child of the People's category (yes, those are people names). > In this example the overlay shows the same icons for the 3 > categories(People's tag icon). So there is no way to know the categories > names the image belongs at the very first look. Still would like to see, > when in browse mode, the categories name in some place. I believe the icon related portion of this bug has been reported at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332584 - though the naming part isn't. It is simple to pop up labels for the tags shown in Edit mode, but it is more difficult for Browse mode because the icons aren't drawn as separate widgets but onto a common canvas (I believe). This part of the issue probably has been reported in some other bug, though I'm not sure. Thanks for the ideas, they are appreciated. Gabriel From mercen@mercen.org Sun Jun 4 05:37:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1540B3B013C for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 05:37:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08301-08 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 05:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (smtp4-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.30]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49CAB3B00BD for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 05:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pu-erh (lns-bzn-26-82-254-105-206.adsl.proxad.net [82.254.105.206]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999E8547E8 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 11:37:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mercen by pu-erh with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Fmp3u-00072T-Qr for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 11:38:22 +0200 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 11:38:22 +0200 From: Thomas Paris To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060604093822.GD23532@pu-erh> Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org References: <1142363109.12790.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1142368032.8661.127.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1142631005.12801.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1148508089.13380.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1148508089.13380.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Compare photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 09:37:40 -0000 Hi James, Thanks for working on this feature. I've just given your patch a very quick try and I think, once it's ready, I'm gonna love it. On Wed May 24 at 23:01 (+0100), you wrote: > To use the compare view select two (or more) photos in icon view then > select the new full screen view icon (I'm not to sure how to make a new > icon just yet) with the "Compare photos" tip. Do we really need a new mode? Can't comparison be a special case of Edit? What I'm trying to say is that I believe it would be good enough to have only one button to go to both "normal" Edit Mode (EM) and Compare View (CV). If only one picture is selected then go to EM. If several have been selected then go to CV. How does that sound? Or maybe have Edit Mode itself be used for comparison? You might have guessed I don't like the demultiplication of modes and views ;) > Finally - is this even useful? Sure is! Thanks again for your work! Thomas PARIS -- http://mercen.org <- news http://mercen.org/gallery <- photos From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 4 09:35:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6EB3B0155 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:35:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19867-03 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F273B009F for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:35:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k54DZ9EH010655 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 4 Jun 2006 23:35:09 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: Tys von Gaza In-Reply-To: <7749526e0605021653p37309326vacde825683cf432@mail.gmail.com> References: <7749526e0605021653p37309326vacde825683cf432@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 23:35:11 +1000 Message-Id: <1149428112.10029.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem make installing X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 13:35:15 -0000 On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 17:53 -0600, Tys von Gaza wrote: > I've got f-spot compling on ubuntu dapper but am running into the > following problem when running make install, any suggestions? > > Making install in po > make[1]: Entering directory `/home/tys/src/fspotcvs/f-spot/po' > make[1]: install_sh@: Command not found > make[1]: *** [install-data-yes] Error 127 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tys/src/fspotcvs/f-spot/po' > make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 > _______________________________________________ I never managed to figure out the reason for this, but the quick and dirty workaround (which needs to be re-applied every now and then), is to add the absolut path to install-sh in po/Makefile. In my case install_sh = /home/bengt/CVS/f-spot/f-spot/install-sh From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Sun Jun 4 20:28:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587BC3B0248 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:28:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21815-04 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:28:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52A43B029E for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:28:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so939442wri for ; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:28:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=PElp/4zEdhyVapmAJRrnypJALSF8r5wF+/xx5V14J6H9PSwSl/35HUvyc+2n8EdgQcfGFfEsDLPmbG29dVNJDWBw8yPlNM5xaOYBLsc++6HNSDsAOFkdzedVrU5XiyafUsrPaz2duJkpYRAVa1+G6qRvfGBiLU2kTDias/xqQ/E= Received: by 10.65.250.16 with SMTP id c16mr3034438qbs; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f13sm1779141qba.2006.06.04.17.28.45; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44837AB9.4070402@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 20:28:41 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Patch for pre-caching Images X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 00:28:48 -0000 Hi all, I've created a patch that enables pre-caching of the 'expected next' item in full-screen mode (and secondarily in 'edit-photo' mode as well). I couldn't find a bug to attach the patch to, so I created a new one: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343856 Basically, with the patch, f-spot tries to guess what image you are going to load next, and loads it in the background - if it completes the background load before you switch to the next image, then it redraws immediately, rather than doing the slow, progressive load thing. I'm interested in feedback on this from other people --- for me, it makes a *huge* difference when viewing images in full-screen mode... Warren From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 5 01:46:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11BC3B04C0 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 01:46:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05459-08 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 01:46:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF383B0297 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 01:46:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k555kZ5D001090 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 15:46:36 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 15:46:41 +1000 Message-Id: <1149486401.7586.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Subject: cannot install `libfspot.la' X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 05:46:41 -0000 Is it only me, or have something changed during the last few days? /Bengt > bengt@jolly:~/CVS/f-spot/f-spot$ ./autogen.sh --prefix=/opt/unstable/f-spot > make all install > > /bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs /opt/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot > /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=install /usr/bin/install -c libfspot.la /opt/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/libfspot.la > libtool: install: error: cannot install `libfspot.la' to a directory not ending in /usr/local/lib/f-spot > make[2]: *** [install-fspotlibLTLIBRARIES] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/bengt/CVS/f-spot/f-spot/libfspot' > make[1]: *** [install-am] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/bengt/CVS/f-spot/f-spot/libfspot' > make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 5 23:09:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665183B0074 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 23:09:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18950-01 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 23:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6AE3B0005 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 23:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5639KSU018437 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 13:09:22 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 13:09:30 +1000 Message-Id: <1149563370.7586.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Another small 2 liner patch (343970) X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 03:09:26 -0000 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343970 Rittyan found a bug where the time in browsemode is in local time, but the time in the info box is in UTC time. >From IRC session I think I found a bug... in our f-spot's browsers photo's date is 6:26 and 6:57... and on sidebar its 2:26 and 2:57... nothing about this "2:26" and "2:57" in metadata browser :< (real time of course is 6am) http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/5682/fspotbug6df.jpg Checking the InfoBox.cs code on row 271 gives: date_label.Text = String.Format ("{0}\n{1}", photo.Time.ToShortDateString (), photo.Time.ToShortTimeString ()); And checking IconView.cs on row 245 gives: if (cell_width > 200) { date = photo.Time.ToLocalTime ().ToString (); } else { date = photo.Time.ToLocalTime ().ToShortDateString (); } The patch I created is as follows: date_label.Text = String.Format ("{0}\n{1}", - photo.Time.ToShortDateString (), - photo.Time.ToShortTimeString ()); + photo.Time.ToLocalTime ().ToShortDateString (), + photo.Time.ToLocalTime ().ToShortTimeString ()); From drberg1000@gmail.com Wed Jun 7 13:33:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F057F3B0135 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 13:33:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00939-03 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 13:33:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111163B00C6 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 13:33:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id x31so357322pye for ; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:33:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=rrrDuk7thGbmxCaV+GpDgO64AwgBzkX9b2BdjNGQ+YeaRhQg7sVHAqTbP9GyoMI4x73agoWOBS1RAN6LBlGQGAyTvOFbtAD9JvKtMaW1DAOw/OoXLma0PVCI95fGE98Kj+Tau7HhLIEgBZG8kGg5+CXqpLKVW9q4INobBEeinhE= Received: by 10.35.40.10 with SMTP id s10mr1001021pyj; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.86.11 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 10:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 12:33:03 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.674 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.632, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.674 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 17:33:06 -0000 I just imported some photos from my camera which does not have any orientation information. I rotated the photos, then exported them to flickr. When viewing them on flickr they are not rotated. I also notice that when I view the image in the Metadata Browser the images are not rotated there. I do not have flickr "auto-magically" rotating images when they are uploaded. Am I missing something or is this a bug? From lewing@novell.com Wed Jun 7 14:02:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1C73B088A for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:02:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02871-10 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA533B0BDC for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17179 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2006 18:02:03 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jun 2006 18:02:03 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: David Berg In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 13:10:13 -0500 Message-Id: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.463 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.064, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.463 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 18:02:05 -0000 On the flickr site turn on the auto rotate option, that will let them display the way you expect there. F-Spot rotates jpegs by changing the exif orientation of the image because it is a small relatively safe modification. This produces an image just like what the camera would have produced if it did have an orientation sensor. I chose to do it this way because f-spot supports loading these images correctly and other rotation methods, lossless or otherwise, require much more drastic modifications to but the image and the metadata. The metadata dialog displays the thumbnail stored in the exif data which is always stored with the sensor orientation, so that is how you would expect it to look. That said, I will probably add an option to the preferences dialog to do rotation of the coefficients sometime in the near future because the code is already in f-spot for other reasons and some people prefer it. --Larry On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 12:33 -0500, David Berg wrote: > I just imported some photos from my camera which does not have any > orientation information. I rotated the photos, then exported them to > flickr. When viewing them on flickr they are not rotated. I also > notice that when I view the image in the Metadata Browser the images > are not rotated there. I do not have flickr "auto-magically" rotating > images when they are uploaded. > > Am I missing something or is this a bug? > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list From drberg1000@gmail.com Thu Jun 8 00:57:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43C33B031C for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 00:57:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07464-03 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 00:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB2A3B02B2 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 00:57:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id f25so417713pyf for ; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 21:57:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kyEBRFvWPiHV/Jy8sgVIKhVJJisyU/sOYSWSObFfmz4qeiiXfe9v6PGvBUYIpzK94x/19oUiiSJUfTZ2gQ3N1JRYyPC12ZlssbWPsJ+g2lLOHwypoZr2bAgwLLqh6OVDwW6pOLVGKlOVmycQ0AVkV+NPy+Fdj5AduYMHokaQ8sY= Received: by 10.35.89.10 with SMTP id r10mr1795799pyl; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 21:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.86.11 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 21:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 23:57:48 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.403 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.197, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.403 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 04:57:51 -0000 On 6/7/06, Larry Ewing wrote: > On the flickr site turn on the auto rotate option, that will let them > display the way you expect there. F-Spot rotates jpegs by changing the Hmmmm..... An f-spot rotated image does not display as rotated on flickr weather I use their "auto rotate" or not. Using their online uploading tool instead of f-spot's also doesn't make a difference. Again, am I missing something? --Dave > exif orientation of the image because it is a small relatively safe > modification. This produces an image just like what the camera would > have produced if it did have an orientation sensor. I chose to do it > this way because f-spot supports loading these images correctly and > other rotation methods, lossless or otherwise, require much more drastic > modifications to but the image and the metadata. The metadata dialog > displays the thumbnail stored in the exif data which is always stored > with the sensor orientation, so that is how you would expect it to look. > > That said, I will probably add an option to the preferences dialog to do > rotation of the coefficients sometime in the near future because the > code is already in f-spot for other reasons and some people prefer it. > > --Larry > > On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 12:33 -0500, David Berg wrote: > > I just imported some photos from my camera which does not have any > > orientation information. I rotated the photos, then exported them to > > flickr. When viewing them on flickr they are not rotated. I also > > notice that when I view the image in the Metadata Browser the images > > are not rotated there. I do not have flickr "auto-magically" rotating > > images when they are uploaded. > > > > Am I missing something or is this a bug? > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > From jaq@spacepants.org Thu Jun 8 01:51:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6323B055F for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 01:51:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10157-02 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 01:51:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx01.anchor.net.au (mx01.anchor.net.au [202.4.234.253]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE95D3B0540 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 01:51:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dawn.casa (office.bridge.anchor.net.au [202.4.235.109]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.anchor.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92EB21C4D8 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:51:40 +1000 (EST) Received: by dawn.casa (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E46562B05DD; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:52:42 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:52:42 +1000 From: Jamie Wilkinson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060608055242.GC21445@spacepants.org> Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org References: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: beefmail v0.0 X-No-CC: Please respect the setting of my Mail-Followup-To header User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.398 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.066, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.398 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 05:51:44 -0000 This one time, at band camp, David Berg wrote: >On 6/7/06, Larry Ewing wrote: >>On the flickr site turn on the auto rotate option, that will let them >>display the way you expect there. F-Spot rotates jpegs by changing the > >Hmmmm..... An f-spot rotated image does not display as rotated on >flickr weather I use their "auto rotate" or not. Using their online >uploading tool instead of f-spot's also doesn't make a difference. > >Again, am I missing something? I noticed a comment in the FlickrRemote.cs file yesterday that says something along the lines of "FIXME: flickr needs rotation", so I suspect that the orientation data could be included in the file upload. I've been playing around in there so if I find out what's going on with that I'll submit a patch. No guarantees though ;-) From steffentchr@gmail.com Wed Jun 7 03:22:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1D73B0C5C for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 03:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22221-08 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 03:22:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BD13B0343 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 03:22:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h2so84527nfe for ; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:22:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to:from:subject:date:x-mailer:sender; b=sBXtRxvuIP++tQikDFyVodcxJq3nExQ8hGuP5+j16BbDL8LHJvS0FP0mqJqfcPpS+ETMoeWzBmc0jTZsZ3PafOP+SQT4YTzO7ehnVB/SHrNq3Eg8Sg2ddcdaW2oZKFGV+Oc5sUFMFAnT8yndtnVsdLQDNteCcQxAgMeGkAXkeZY= Received: by 10.48.157.15 with SMTP id f15mr187524nfe; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.17.57? ( [83.93.78.185]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2sm585578nfe.2006.06.07.00.22.41; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <50103E49-B987-4933-8D00-F99D37F674DD@refresh.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Steffen Tiedemann Christensen Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 09:22:40 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) Sender: Steffen Tiedemann Christensen X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:55:08 -0400 Subject: Setting the endpoint of the Flickr API X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 07:22:45 -0000 Hi guys, I'm a member of the development team at 23 (http://www.23hq.com), and I have a small request/suggestion in that regard. Various photo sharing sites (i.e. our own and beta.zooomr.com) have implemented the Flickr API and allow third party apps such as F-Spot to enable photo export simply by changing the API endpoint. Would it be possible to allow user to manually change the Flickr API endpoint from http:///www.flickr.com/services/rest to something different such as http://www.23hq.com/services/rest or http:// beta.zooomr.com/services/rest. (Refer to this forum thread http://www.23hq.com/forums/message-view? message_id=742083 for a 23 user who got F-Spot exporting to work simply by adding a line to his /etc/hosts file -- this indicates that no other changes are needed in order have full cross-site support with your current code.) Thanks, Steffen Tiedemann Christensen http://www.23hq.com steffen@23hq.com From m487396@rocketmail.com Thu Jun 8 05:12:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F753B0598 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 05:12:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21911-04 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 05:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.86]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D9753B0505 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 05:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 75403 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jun 2006 09:12:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rocketmail.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=CiE/PEk3TmueAOqiBUMhBMt8S8GjK+FL2y81Gt0DE3fHOccQJBnFR7wARvRyZNLUWQo7jzzEN0CWjMo+zjyzMFP9qz0xAO3leDyCiqc6sX8ez4VZtNIxKD9znRZXjcqMbomU8eq9CscFkF8ZFnZSB5FArfksbt0E7bPZF2+WcuU= ; Message-ID: <20060608091250.75401.qmail@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [211.31.121.246] by web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:12:50 EST Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:12:50 +1000 (EST) From: "Mark A. Bell" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:55:08 -0400 Subject: problem compiling on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:12:52 -0000 Hello, I'd like to compile the f-spot-0.1.11 release on Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper. I used 'apt-get build-dep f-spot' to download dependencies. I downloaded the f-spot-0.1.11.tar.bz2 archive. ./configure fails at the following: checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate appending configuration tag "F77" to libtool checking what warning flags to pass to the C compiler... -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes checking what language compliance flags to pass to the C compiler... checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.0... yes (version 2.10.3) checking for mono... /usr/bin/mono checking for mcs... /usr/bin/mcs checking for mono.pc... found checking for Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll... configure: error: missing required mono DLL: Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll However, find / -iname 'Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll' Gives: /usr/lib/mono/gac/Mono.Data.SqliteClient/2.0.0.0__0738eb9f132ed756/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll /usr/lib/mono/2.0/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll Is my configure script looking for the file in the wrong place? Suggestions gratefully received. - mark /f-spot-0.1.11 Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com From lewing@novell.com Thu Jun 8 15:07:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E023B102C for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:07:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30616-09 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461233B1028 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18685 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2006 19:07:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Jun 2006 19:07:43 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Steffen Tiedemann Christensen In-Reply-To: <50103E49-B987-4933-8D00-F99D37F674DD@refresh.dk> References: <50103E49-B987-4933-8D00-F99D37F674DD@refresh.dk> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:15:45 -0500 Message-Id: <1149794146.13936.4.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.463 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.064, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.463 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Setting the endpoint of the Flickr API X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:07:50 -0000 Yeah happy to. It may be a little while before I have the time to add it since it really needs some UI changes to make much sense from the user's perspective. --Larry On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 09:22 +0200, Steffen Tiedemann Christensen wrote: > Hi guys, > > I'm a member of the development team at 23 (http://www.23hq.com), and > I have a small request/suggestion in that regard. Various photo > sharing sites (i.e. our own and beta.zooomr.com) have implemented the > Flickr API and allow third party apps such as F-Spot to enable photo > export simply by changing the API endpoint. > Would it be possible to allow user to manually change the Flickr API > endpoint from http:///www.flickr.com/services/rest to something > different such as http://www.23hq.com/services/rest or http:// > beta.zooomr.com/services/rest. > > (Refer to this forum thread http://www.23hq.com/forums/message-view? > message_id=742083 for a 23 user who got F-Spot exporting to work > simply by adding a line to his /etc/hosts file -- this indicates that > no other changes are needed in order have full cross-site support > with your current code.) > > > Thanks, > Steffen Tiedemann Christensen > http://www.23hq.com > steffen@23hq.com > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list From nick@communicontent.com Thu Jun 8 15:32:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92073B0774 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32276-07 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:32:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pfepb.post.tele.dk (pfepb.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.236]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D93B3B000E for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:32:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nick.communicontent.com (unknown [87.48.90.98]) by pfepb.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 6972DA50096 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 21:31:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by nick.communicontent.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 8 Jun 2006 21:44:43 +0200 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 21:44:43 +0200 From: Nick Wilson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r802 (Linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.532 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.068, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.532 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Wilson List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:32:16 -0000 hi everyone, is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive thanks! -- Nick Wilson http://performancing.com/user/1 From gcgaf-f-spot-list@m.gmane.org Thu Jun 8 16:00:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55823B0F8F for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 16:00:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01410-10 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 16:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28B23B0730 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 16:00:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FoQgD-0003YJ-0p for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:00:33 +0200 Received: from p54a195b5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.161.149.181]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:00:33 +0200 Received: from colin by p54a195b5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:00:33 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Colin Marquardt Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 21:58:21 +0200 Organization: I'd rather call it chaos. Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54a195b5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de Mail-Copies-To: never X-Draft-From: ("gmane.comp.gnome.apps.f-spot" 764) X-message-flag: Please don't add me to your address book if you are using Outlook. Thanks, Colin. X-Jabber-UID: cmarqu (see http://www.jabber.org) X-Home-Page: http://www.marquardt-home.de X-GnuPG-Key: gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.us.pgp.net --recv-keys 5359F413 X-Fingerprint: 6D9B 01B4 F8B9 500F 3056 D74F D27F EBF5 5359 F413 Cancel-Lock: sha1:x1VlmVATagVM8AvUpOEQWvh8OcI= Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.573 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.028, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.573 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 20:00:55 -0000 Nick Wilson writes: > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive Gnome applications use gconf, so in theory, you'd be able to change this setting via e.g. gconf-editor, under apps/fspot/..., but at least my f-spot version 0.1.11 doesn't allow to configure that directory. Cheers, Colin From nick@communicontent.com Thu Jun 8 17:21:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0813D3B06A5 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:21:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06221-10 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:21:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pfepb.post.tele.dk (pfepb.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.236]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF883B0FA3 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:21:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nick.communicontent.com (0x57305a62.naenxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [87.48.90.98]) by pfepb.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 15B7EA50004 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 23:21:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: by nick.communicontent.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 8 Jun 2006 23:34:40 +0200 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 23:34:40 +0200 From: Nick Wilson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060608213440.GD28036@communicontent.com> References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r802 (Linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.524 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.060, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.524 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Wilson List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 21:21:24 -0000 * and then Colin Marquardt declared.... > Nick Wilson writes: > > > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive > > Gnome applications use gconf, so in theory, you'd be able to change > this setting via e.g. gconf-editor, under apps/fspot/..., but at > least my f-spot version 0.1.11 doesn't allow to configure that > directory. ah, i downloaded that, thanks. Shame, mine doesn't have it either. I did successfully move Photos/ and then soft link to it, so maybe i can do something like that to get it doing what i want (ive never used NFS so have no clue really on that..) thanks -- Nick Wilson http://performancing.com/user/1 From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Thu Jun 8 17:35:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410B43B0105 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:35:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07181-02 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:35:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0180B3B000E for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:35:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i12so716162wra for ; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:35:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=QdYV9h9749DmL5097FYmFdvr21aVqNaGBYXjOt9CH+QmINjPdjbCy6uERkxSYIbfCFYziiDbUZPHOI1wSzO4GixpCgsnV618OBKyFVBW/vEp+NY4lvCKoVgDMe2MLy4WgIoaaoXqs+dTu9PHeU5BD6oH/+GGXhQKrcy7XMmS58Q= Received: by 10.54.126.1 with SMTP id y1mr2189765wrc; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.26.1.18? ( [216.95.183.94]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 8sm1984091wra.2006.06.08.14.35.19; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 17:35:18 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> In-Reply-To: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.531 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.531 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 21:35:24 -0000 Nick Wilson wrote: > hi everyone, > > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive > > thanks! I sent a patch to the mailing list a while back that added a '--photoDir' option to f-spot, so you can put both the db, and any imported photos in a specific directory. My particular use case is I want to have a collection of photos directly on my laptop's hard drive, but I want to have another collection of photos on a portable hard drive, and I wanted an easy way to switch between them. I thought I had attached this to a bug, but it looks like I never did. I think the patch I previously submitted was against the last snapshot --- I'll put together a patch against head and submit it tonight... Warren From bengt@thuree.com Thu Jun 8 19:42:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8EF3B00FA for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:42:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13151-10 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:42:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EFD3B0408 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:42:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k58NfpPm015892 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 9 Jun 2006 09:41:54 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: Warren Baird In-Reply-To: <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 09:41:56 +1000 Message-Id: <1149810116.7586.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 23:42:05 -0000 On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 17:35 -0400, Warren Baird wrote: > Nick Wilson wrote: > > hi everyone, > > > > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive > > > > thanks! > > I sent a patch to the mailing list a while back that added a > '--photoDir' option to f-spot, so you can put both the db, and any > imported photos in a specific directory. > > My particular use case is I want to have a collection of photos directly > on my laptop's hard drive, but I want to have another collection of > photos on a portable hard drive, and I wanted an easy way to switch > between them. > > I thought I had attached this to a bug, but it looks like I never did. > I think the patch I previously submitted was against the last > snapshot --- I'll put together a patch against head and submit it tonight... > > Warren I put together a very much preliminary patch to let F-Spot use a global configuration file as well. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331953 Here is another bug (with a patch) to let user change Photos directory. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325166 From nick@communicontent.com Fri Jun 9 17:12:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7AB3B00FE for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21145-06 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:12:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pfepc.post.tele.dk (pfepc.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E3A3B0108 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:12:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nick.communicontent.com (0x57305a62.naenxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [87.48.90.98]) by pfepc.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id BEBF28A0032 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 23:12:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: by nick.communicontent.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 9 Jun 2006 23:26:37 +0200 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 23:26:37 +0200 From: Nick Wilson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060609212637.GA14439@communicontent.com> References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <1149810116.7586.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1149810116.7586.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r802 (Linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.496 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.032, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.496 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Wilson List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 21:12:58 -0000 * and then Bengt Thuree declared.... > > > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > > > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > > > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive > > > > > > thanks! > > > > I sent a patch to the mailing list a while back that added a > > '--photoDir' option to f-spot, so you can put both the db, and any > > imported photos in a specific directory. > > > > My particular use case is I want to have a collection of photos directly > > on my laptop's hard drive, but I want to have another collection of > > photos on a portable hard drive, and I wanted an easy way to switch > > between them. > > > > I thought I had attached this to a bug, but it looks like I never did. > > I think the patch I previously submitted was against the last > > snapshot --- I'll put together a patch against head and submit it tonight... > I put together a very much preliminary patch to let F-Spot use a global > configuration file as well. > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331953 > > Here is another bug (with a patch) to let user change Photos directory. > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325166 Thanks for the help everyone. It turns out that f-spot works just fine if you swap the ~/Photos dir for a symlink, and if that symlink is pointed at an NFS mount, you can indeed keep all your photos on one drive and allow multiple boxes to access it. I've yet to set it up properly, but testing worked just great, now i just have to redo the storage box the way i want it and we're in business :) -- Nick Wilson http://performancing.com/user/1 From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 9 18:55:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F473B0370 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:55:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26392-04 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:55:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.199]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDC83B0301 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:55:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k59MthQJ017111 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:55:44 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: Nick Wilson In-Reply-To: <20060609212637.GA14439@communicontent.com> References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <1149810116.7586.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060609212637.GA14439@communicontent.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:55:50 +1000 Message-Id: <1149893750.7586.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 22:55:51 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 23:26 +0200, Nick Wilson wrote: > It turns out that f-spot works just fine if you swap the ~/Photos dir > for a symlink, and if that symlink is pointed at an NFS mount, you can > indeed keep all your photos on one drive and allow multiple boxes to > access it. > > I've yet to set it up properly, but testing worked just great, now i > just have to redo the storage box the way i want it and we're in > business :) > Are you using the latest CVS? I am using the latest CVS, and have my home directory on an NFS mount. F-Spot will not enable the Edit icons in Edit view due to this. See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344403 /Bengt From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 9 21:21:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0243B028B for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:21:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00418-01 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:21:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.196]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADD53B00D0 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:21:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5A1LDsA016968 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:21:13 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:21:13 +1000 Message-Id: <1149902473.7586.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Subject: SendEmail in MainWindow? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:21:17 -0000 Hi Seems like part of the resize photos for emails are in the MainWindow.cs, but the SendMail.cs file is missing. > $ grep SendEmail MainWindow.cs > new FSpot.SendEmail (new FSpot.PhotoArray (SelectedPhotos ())); Perhaps introduced when reverting MainWindow? /bengt From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 9 22:28:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7EC3B0161 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 22:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03436-09 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 22:28:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4BE3B01D0 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 22:28:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5A2SPJC003635 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:28:25 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list In-Reply-To: <1149902473.7586.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1149902473.7586.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:28:26 +1000 Message-Id: <1149906507.7586.87.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: SendEmail in MainWindow? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:28:31 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 11:21 +1000, Bengt Thuree wrote: > Seems like part of the resize photos for emails are in the > MainWindow.cs, but the SendMail.cs file is missing. > > $ grep SendEmail MainWindow.cs > > new FSpot.SendEmail (new FSpot.PhotoArray (SelectedPhotos ())); > > Perhaps introduced when reverting MainWindow? Or more likely by someone called murphy at my place :( After deleting all, and checkout a new version of F-Spot it worked fine. /Bengt From jaq@spacepants.org Sat Jun 10 01:33:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964973B028B for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:33:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10716-06 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx01.anchor.net.au (mx01.anchor.net.au [202.4.234.253]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655CD3B0169 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dawn.casa (203-166-247-250.dyn.iinet.net.au [203.166.247.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.anchor.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4681C6F9 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:33:08 +1000 (EST) Received: by dawn.casa (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CE0502B0BA7; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:34:10 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:34:10 +1000 From: Jamie Wilkinson To: f-spot-list Message-ID: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailer: beefmail v0.0 X-No-CC: Please respect the setting of my Mail-Followup-To header User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.034 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_WHOIS_BOGONS=2.43] X-Spam-Score: -0.034 X-Spam-Level: Subject: building with ccache X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:33:11 -0000 Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs? Now I've got a few branches of f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing. From maxima.mlist@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 05:40:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249773B0130 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:40:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23000-07 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:40:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38543B044D for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:40:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1054485pyd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:40:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=sb9Yr5B0RGgit+ST7bP1rNs6hHp/T7vcSqmIxQ/NTXJPbrG1zCDAY1NK8MwDxh9FH9XPLsH6UoNggW5QEXMCi/wPjIBSIfRvsQrTTTSfBOThVYedWBF2Bmg3bxLiiu/Sl7uW2rOcynaZ6buF79sPkJaCh2PZZWq2Hpy7TXx49fA= Received: by 10.35.91.15 with SMTP id t15mr934583pyl; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from debussy.harmony ( [203.206.244.79]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k53sm1789689pyd.2006.06.10.02.40.50; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:40:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Arif Lukito To: Jamie Wilkinson In-Reply-To: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> References: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-RHtnQ5hPXSxZloA4yo5B" Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:40:47 +1000 Message-Id: <1149932447.18989.0.camel@debussy.harmony> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.035 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_WHOIS_BOGONS=2.43, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.035 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list Subject: Re: building with ccache X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:40:56 -0000 --=-RHtnQ5hPXSxZloA4yo5B Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 15:34 +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs? Now I've got a few branches of > f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the > build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing > obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing. Isn't that ccache is only for C and C++ ? -- Arif Lukito --=-RHtnQ5hPXSxZloA4yo5B Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 15:34 +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: 
Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs?  Now I've got a few branches of
f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the
build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing
obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing.
Isn't that ccache is only for C and C++ ?


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Arif Lukito <maxima.mlist@gmail.com>
--=-RHtnQ5hPXSxZloA4yo5B-- From m.j.hutchinson@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 09:09:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6593B04A6 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:09:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03255-08 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:09:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.207]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDF93B0479 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:09:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i30so764988wxd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 06:09:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Qut/7C/0Ntt7OY7KFW+icHgUMPZ9U4euqqzUsT7/65llNw6Z0ScOU46mU02+bDFt4NXIx/Zv8K3HO0y3V6O9uq/t5NAmFvbZvnrWI+O2IIcjo1K75JHUAbt39s1OUkEr/MqrLqc7bQ0lf7vcUPBHu+u11IMS+rJdN1IdqEpQXv0= Received: by 10.70.8.2 with SMTP id 2mr4547431wxh; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 06:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.124.9 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 06:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 14:09:42 +0100 From: "Michael Hutchinson" To: f-spot-list In-Reply-To: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.259 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.341, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.259 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: building with ccache X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:09:45 -0000 On 6/10/06, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs? Now I've got a few branches of > f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the > build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing > obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing. Won't work with mcs. Even it it did, mcs is many times faster than gcc, so you wouldn't see much of a difference. You could maybe put it in front of the C parts of f-spot. Michael From drberg1000@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 11:02:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2CF3B0237 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10145-05 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:02:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F2D3B0227 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:02:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1106948pyd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:02:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uqi4FAHLtjox6py+LI4LzOTRwIwtRp2JR//+QHuhAnla3qhZ1fcJZOqEj7b5q2Zz/7fd7lqn67ouLjvfEYbqv2grbuxO5p2oqNIo1Qr9TEMN5/SILmWCI5Bv4s3Fr+YMXArE+woYFue2mfWkMYbaslLZ/cDcuS1fdn6hWtd4oZ4= Received: by 10.35.46.6 with SMTP id y6mr3646121pyj; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.82.13 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 10:02:00 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20060608055242.GC21445@spacepants.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> <20060608055242.GC21445@spacepants.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.666 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.624, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.666 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:02:07 -0000 On 6/8/06, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > This one time, at band camp, David Berg wrote: > >On 6/7/06, Larry Ewing wrote: > >>On the flickr site turn on the auto rotate option, that will let them > >>display the way you expect there. F-Spot rotates jpegs by changing the > > > >Hmmmm..... An f-spot rotated image does not display as rotated on > >flickr weather I use their "auto rotate" or not. Using their online > >uploading tool instead of f-spot's also doesn't make a difference. > > > >Again, am I missing something? > > I noticed a comment in the FlickrRemote.cs file yesterday that says > something along the lines of "FIXME: flickr needs rotation", so I suspect > that the orientation data could be included in the file upload. I don't know how f-spot is organized so I could be wrong but I don't think its a problem with any code specific to flickr. I remember this morning that my camera would rotate images by adjusting exif as well and tried it using that to rotate instead of f-spot. When I uploaded a camera-rotated-image flickr auto-rotated it. I uploaded the image both using the web interface and f-spot and both methods worked fine. When I ran exif on an image I had rotated using f-spot and compared it to this one I found that the camera-rotated-image had these entries for Orientation: dberg@dale:~/Photos/2006/6/10$ exif DSC02341.JPG | grep Orientation Orientation |right - top Orientation |right - top Where as the image rotated in f-spot had these entries: dberg@dale:~/Photos/2006/6/10$ exif DSC02342.JPG | grep Orientation Orientation |right - top Orientation |top - left Apparently flickr looks at both or just the second and is either confused by the mismatched info or decides it doesn't need to be rotated. Should I file a bug for this? --Dave > > I've been playing around in there so if I find out what's going on with that > I'll submit a patch. No guarantees though ;-) > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From bengt@thuree.com Sat Jun 10 11:12:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C3A3B028F for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:12:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10802-09 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:12:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FCF3B0187 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5AFCQfe005287 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 01:12:27 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: David Berg In-Reply-To: References: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> <20060608055242.GC21445@spacepants.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 01:12:36 +1000 Message-Id: <1149952357.7586.101.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:12:35 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 10:02 -0500, David Berg wrote: > > Should I file a bug for this? > Please do, since that is the sure way to ensure nothing gets lost during the way.... :) Good finding :) /Bengt From tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie Sat Jun 10 11:46:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADA33B01D7 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:46:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12287-04 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:46:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alfred.murphy.ie (unknown [86.43.71.228]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944AA3B0227 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alfred.murphy.ie (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alfred.murphy.ie (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5AFkbvD011987 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:46:37 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by alfred.murphy.ie (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k5AFka96011984 for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:46:36 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: alfred.murphy.ie: tim set sender to tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie using -f From: Timothy Murphy Organization: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:46:35 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200606101646.36200.tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.579 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.020, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.579 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Is f-spot what I want? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:46:57 -0000 I'm afraid it's not clear to me exactly what f-spot does (or how one gets it to do whatever that is). Basically, I have a few folders containing JPEGs, maybe 300 in all, and I want to offer them on my web-site. Can I use f-spot to create a web photo gallery? If so, what commands exactly should I give? I looked at the User Guide, but I'm afraid I didn't learn much from it. Is there a simple tutorial or howto somewhere? Any suggestions or advice gratefully received. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland From ken@vandine.org Sat Jun 10 11:58:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7623B02AC for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12471-07 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (unknown [24.25.9.100]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08923B0305 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (cpe-071-065-240-185.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.240.185]) by ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5AFwiTS025959; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken VanDine To: tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie In-Reply-To: <200606101646.36200.tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie> References: <200606101646.36200.tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:52 -0400 Message-Id: <1149955132.5110.2.camel@foobar> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.082 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.517, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.082 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Is f-spot what I want? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:58:55 -0000 You can export them to create a web gallery. http://f-spot.org/User_Guide/Share#Generate_a_Website_Gallery F-Spot is a tool for managing your library of photos. Part of that management is being able to export the photos you select and resize for the web. There are several methods for doing so, check that link out and see if it does what you want. Enjoy f-spot! --Ken On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 16:46 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I'm afraid it's not clear to me exactly what f-spot does > (or how one gets it to do whatever that is). > > Basically, I have a few folders containing JPEGs, > maybe 300 in all, > and I want to offer them on my web-site. > Can I use f-spot to create a web photo gallery? > If so, what commands exactly should I give? > > I looked at the User Guide, > but I'm afraid I didn't learn much from it. > > Is there a simple tutorial or howto somewhere? > Any suggestions or advice gratefully received. > From qub333@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 12:16:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6087A3B02AC for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:16:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13756-02 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:16:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.199]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540C63B0538 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:14:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 9so1255881nzo for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:14:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=GB86vqRKdEeOzi28pIfkBAsCyEH7ygXq9FBpSFrMwCpGU6lxZUMPDBJhYx5g5YTinsWlqL59dAJWwdJqJoJbOhf9fiPxNoMKhYYkzc9lOl5ipX4+DqmgKlnDM+TEjeaczi9JI6A2eeL+ep5nKucozR+GdJKb1PFqeiwjeQiybKs= Received: by 10.36.224.49 with SMTP id w49mr3904026nzg; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.4 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <88d636060606100914y2a85732fk46a51842dc2aa41a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:14:33 -0400 From: "Kevin Kubasik" Sender: qub333@gmail.com To: "Mark A. Bell" In-Reply-To: <20060608091250.75401.qmail@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060608091250.75401.qmail@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8e590672541337ac X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.548 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.052, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.548 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: problem compiling on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:16:16 -0000 Try the following, just to be sure sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get build-dep f-spot ./configure --prefix=/usr //becasue you are on an debian based system, you need to use the /use prefix -Kevin Kubasik On 6/8/06, Mark A. Bell wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to compile the f-spot-0.1.11 release on Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper. > > I used 'apt-get build-dep f-spot' to download dependencies. > I downloaded the f-spot-0.1.11.tar.bz2 archive. > > ./configure fails at the following: > > checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate > appending configuration tag "F77" to libtool > checking what warning flags to pass to the C compiler... -Wall > -Wmissing-prototypes > checking what language compliance flags to pass to the C compiler... > checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config > checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.0... yes (version 2.10.3) > checking for mono... /usr/bin/mono > checking for mcs... /usr/bin/mcs > checking for mono.pc... found > checking for Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll... configure: error: missing > required mono DLL: Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll > > However, > > find / -iname 'Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll' > > Gives: > > /usr/lib/mono/gac/Mono.Data.SqliteClient/2.0.0.0__0738eb9f132ed756/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll > /usr/lib/mono/2.0/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll > > Is my configure script looking for the file in the wrong place? > Suggestions gratefully received. > > - mark > > > > /f-spot-0.1.11 > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > -- Cheers, Kevin Kubasik http://kubasik.net/blog From m487396@rocketmail.com Sat Jun 10 15:42:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE34C3B0494 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:42:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23801-01 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:42:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.92]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E58ED3B050D for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73928 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jun 2006 19:42:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rocketmail.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=WrghfpbdBeyioC5I4vqJtyfXtA3g1ScLkKPv/o2ndn4pdLXa6UjyIZYeoC6OMSDLBGOnz6hAjDM9YhK+3ZpoCAJTwf5peTQwKl63oBnXOTvEKtj7zUiJfzWYVN8gihjIdCqulPiIaBoZVwC8iNpWG0IIet0bV9JfH9rESR2phWQ= ; Message-ID: <20060610194218.73926.qmail@web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [211.31.121.246] by web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:42:18 EST Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:42:18 +1000 (EST) From: "Mark A. Bell" To: f-spot-list In-Reply-To: <88d636060606100914y2a85732fk46a51842dc2aa41a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.577 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.577 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: problem compiling on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:42:22 -0000 --- Kevin Kubasik wrote: > Try the following, just to be sure > > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get build-dep f-spot > ./configure --prefix=/usr //becasue you are on an debian based > system, > you need to use the /use prefix > > -Kevin Kubasik Thanks kindly for your help, Kevin. I don't have much experience compiling packages from source. The problem was that I had mono-classlib-2.0, but I needed mono-classlib-1.0 instead. After fixing this, and a good deal of other packages, I got Flickr to configure and compile. I am most happy - thanks to all the Flickr developers. Why anyone would want to run Picassa on Linux is a mystery to me. - mark sydney, australia http://www.flickr.com/photos/m487396 Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. 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( [69.140.109.194]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h9sm4269697wxd.2006.06.10.19.15.33; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <448B7CC4.7020902@kubasik.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:15:32 -0400 From: Kevin Kubasik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060522) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=43337DF4; url=http://kubasik.net/KevinKubasik.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Kevin Kubasik X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.16 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.440, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.16 X-Spam-Level: Subject: F-spot and pkg-config X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:16:40 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Does f-spot install a pkg-config .pc file? I can't seem to find one, but I am working on some deeper integration between beagle and f-spot, and I need beagle to be able to check at compile time if f-spot is installed, and what version. A simple f-spot --version | awk {print $3} does work as a hack, but a more permanent/ professional solution would be nice. - -- Cheers, Kevin Kubasik 240-838-6616 http://kubasik.net/blog -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBRIt8xP3xZFNDM330AQjuFg/+Nwk8Yd14Toy+9NUK2OWpaCdyCcDwLVUf MchviVqlSx1dsHjQBFUczlHmmbHIjhivAp+p69rBlGPxOzUebTSUA50Sf1i+dafc cGUuimjBhd8LXehpHyEoKRdb/adrMcylhqtmOC52UnxmewKQ/oOd7c4Vdhqy/8+I n9HQuqUIS0FVQ6obRcLNRF+jz4PVInRyfOaqHiHD6g/wDUtgX5pRNdkGiqiC2J4F NbMytA2NJafwqCdJFFORUQ7O+3rSl0R0e7Ee9PodfeuNQNNm93+yeU+cOYNxkiPL i8seVQN2dhdjiGA+2ifYNna3yeG62q8hr/513j03JZUdjrZtfcixc0j+VeePpSWA Hy2M2qrNbZCRtRVkqrwmsMjzgn6F50bboGa3uhlSHWJ9+Jo1JNbU7pdu+DSyxqYJ NXv9eQBwMBPcwsoAua8fbgJsVD2/BeS8atRXcUUQgtkv8FPu5+WyD4+L22HGWLzX Urymjs4+iHKsZP4xt8FHTYpdaXch6YX+X5LDdLzkLd9RtR98C8pAEbxB6V11jisQ qnImNe42UHLGNz69mbIPWRX3AgruVlrrENfwSPTegAfAI3X0+9Yk+ZT1nGlaWsYO pN/Bs1d1adyM2zMxrMJMN6SfveJHHsm4pzNg8tNJEwv41tEjxLeK4JR3GBrqh4NY 8ua7ZQ20iWg= =728w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jaq@spacepants.org Sat Jun 10 22:23:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580633B0313 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:23:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04933-03 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx01.anchor.net.au (mx01.anchor.net.au [202.4.234.253]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A904D3B030D for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dawn.casa (203-166-247-250.dyn.iinet.net.au [203.166.247.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.anchor.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405A01D14A for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:21:52 +1000 (EST) Received: by dawn.casa (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EFE2A2B0BA8; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:22:55 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:22:55 +1000 From: Jamie Wilkinson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060611022255.GB4953@spacepants.org> Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org References: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> <1149932447.18989.0.camel@debussy.harmony> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1149932447.18989.0.camel@debussy.harmony> X-Mailer: beefmail v0.0 X-No-CC: Please respect the setting of my Mail-Followup-To header User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.034 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_WHOIS_BOGONS=2.43] X-Spam-Score: -0.034 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: building with ccache X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:23:22 -0000 This one time, at band camp, Arif Lukito wrote: >On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 15:34 +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > >> Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs? Now I've got a few branches of >> f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the >> build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing >> obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing. > >Isn't that ccache is only for C and C++ ? I've never used it before, that's why I was asking ;-) From qub333@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 22:28:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900C43B04F1 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:28:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04593-08 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:28:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DE63B0456 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:28:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i30so830843wxd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:27:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=B96MHIhFWoOBQWWZ+acTxmyJ+nAwZUGEsEq9mQ6aUjQuwLdTnsG/mkXrqg5kCiKLA/hj+kUM+oSRmYZO61aep48FtXl+JKEGTK47ev1Tp0RlPubvzCl3p+zqpOXq0ba3prazN3D+T5OwsdeQg4eIxJo2oIEH1aNh5C3Ia0sIYwI= Received: by 10.70.26.1 with SMTP id 1mr5072738wxz; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.108? ( [69.140.109.194]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h17sm4376967wxd.2006.06.10.19.27.46; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <448B7FA2.5020908@kubasik.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:27:46 -0400 From: Kevin Kubasik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060522) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Kubasik References: <448B7CC4.7020902@kubasik.net> In-Reply-To: <448B7CC4.7020902@kubasik.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=43337DF4; url=http://kubasik.net/KevinKubasik.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Kevin Kubasik X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.199 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.401, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.199 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot and pkg-config X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:28:41 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Ok, I filed this as bug #344534 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344534 Kevin Kubasik wrote: > Does f-spot install a pkg-config .pc file? I can't seem to find one, but > I am working on some deeper integration between beagle and f-spot, and I > need beagle to be able to check at compile time if f-spot is installed, > and what version. A simple > f-spot --version | awk {print $3} > does work as a hack, but a more permanent/ professional solution would > be nice. > > - -- Cheers, Kevin Kubasik 240-838-6616 http://kubasik.net/blog -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBRIt/of3xZFNDM330AQjFhg/+M+p26fVL8cXYQVpsloho71P2Ode6yIM7 X/tcHynd/WXivm8phZMJpgFpSdsr9rUmGuLc2WCvB07K217cBo3ESV0YEDvYvoeu 0P2dCKkmu9z9sKcpJsCCCrOa/nALIoTSNFPhuxE6bcy7dPVykpLbuqg160+LGyX5 TpCnayaxO4CNZu52TrctsqMF6ana7OFhJ5zft3FE3jQ/hy41VK+2ltMn5wHQ2fNe 4BTPlvzNhFlorCbY4P5snZnA2Jss3Xg3pzugq/O990BIaoOFCRThDly+hlEYrvlm hV25rue/rtsM/1A7vH3CHM8JMnC5nJYkky3b4j6RtPoekQf0zj09gFfzUhCmCMu6 0nm9DSNLjU6fVhc4M6ZFDBz1iO/eS7Z29s9jSAt1Kk5Wkqw+bNX8BUgaXuv1NE8l wr1qWjR+gfNys8UyFcEduI0bIGfYVJCq/fwR0LJU3yAJimoLlgKgPUFBZHVxL1+9 4cSJa9NBxX4/Kva75k2WHBEmSvf/2QlWrHJEYygIlSD2x+4Gg67/X1xC+7E907YU Yw8aYDHnRKx4JFVcwhz9zY6nwaEQiT+kyu4ZOGq/4B8qVdbfknajdjKDRaEspP/Y RhhG4BcPPz3tYO63CwsT39HFfA6FXj6X7Zl6ws7s0ZB5sy5hzUUwKhWofFVT8lNx MpstHJqaSlA= =dX62 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jfc001@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 05:30:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C2D3B0095 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00548-02 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BDB3B039F for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1237268pyd for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:29:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=eVJZishWuh/BkzRmlhCsCcTL848UFOONhi6OPnFccj0y6OY/91p7FB7EG1PMjqpzikeEsROOCVXl7vjnHzCIun6ogcj2fo7U+HMc/V9oXEjFzyyWf+Ddx3GgmilNVktcmjWgx/Rj/dyyt6Z50vEZm0iclpHbWyAQwtTvoru1XGA= Received: by 10.35.57.5 with SMTP id j5mr131414pyk; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.20.7 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:29:15 -0600 From: "James Carroll" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_6231_12266151.1150018155717" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.238 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.052, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP=0.175, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.238 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 09:30:20 -0000 ------=_Part_6231_12266151.1150018155717 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6232_32330217.1150018155717" ------=_Part_6232_32330217.1150018155717 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I upgraded from Ubuntu Breezy (5.10) to Dapper (6.06), but I am still not able to run f-spot. I am able to successfully compile the latest CVS version by following the How to Build instructions, (Thanks, Bengtt!), but I get the following when trying to run f-spot, either the stable version through the package manager or the latest CVS. I have attached the full error output, both for the stable version and the CVS snapshot. The output of the two is slightly different. ** (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe:2636): WARNING **: The > following assembly referenced from /home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f- > spot.exe could not be loaded: > Assembly: gnome-sharp (assemblyref_index=9) > Version: 2.8.0.0 > Public Key: 35e10195dab3c99f > The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in > the MONO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing > assembly (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot). > > > ================================================================= > Got a SIGSEGV while executing native code. This usually indicates > a fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries > used by your application. > ================================================================= > I have looked for the variable MONO_PATH isn't set, at least not in bash. Thank you so much for the help! James Carroll ------=_Part_6232_32330217.1150018155717 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I upgraded from Ubuntu Breezy (5.10) to Dapper (6.06), but I am still not able to run f-spot.  I am able to successfully compile the latest CVS version by following the How to Build instructions, (Thanks, Bengtt!), but I get the following when trying to run f-spot, either the stable version through the package manager or the latest CVS. I have attached the full error output, both for the stable version and the CVS snapshot. The output of the two is slightly different.

** (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f- spot.exe:2636): WARNING **: The following assembly referenced from /home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe could not be loaded:
     Assembly:   gnome-sharp    (assemblyref_index=9)
     Version:    2.8.0.0
     Public Key: 35e10195dab3c99f
The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in the MONO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing assembly (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot).


=================================================================
Got a SIGSEGV while executing native code. This usually indicates
a fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries
used by your application.
=================================================================

I have looked for the variable MONO_PATH isn't set, at least not in bash.

Thank you so much for the help!
James Carroll


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Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:14:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03055-01 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:14:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.166]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C2F3B0095 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:14:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5BADUcu001565 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:13:31 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: James Carroll In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:13:41 +1000 Message-Id: <1150020822.5937.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:14:57 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 03:29 -0600, James Carroll wrote: > I upgraded from Ubuntu Breezy (5.10) to Dapper (6.06), but I am still > not able to run f-spot. I am able to successfully compile the latest > CVS version by following the How to Build instructions, (Thanks, > Bengtt!), Your'e welcome :) > but I get the following when trying to run f-spot, either the stable > version through the package manager or the latest CVS. I have attached > the full error output, both for the stable version and the CVS > snapshot. The output of the two is slightly different. > > ** (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f- spot.exe:2636): > WARNING **: The following assembly referenced > from /home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe could > not Have you done the "make install" ? F-Spot will look for some libraries in the /home/james/unstable/f-spot directory even if you run the uninstalled version. /Bengt From jfc001@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 06:42:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178CE3B03C2 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:42:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04975-03 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:42:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5553B00CB for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:42:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1245373pyd for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:40:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=iYpd1sL8Oo9JSa8vJR6yHyXLIC8hlhbaYM2LBWW0l4L7iQygBq/7qiIhkedClZsd9Vv588Ywofw09jDe79xRLkpBE9vFm/7gsryKOSmkdGBSiiA/+Dy9rntQeX3th4hJcVw81+6XWIKh+obn1m8uEvwRWHSHCjIeThTmiktRRtE= Received: by 10.35.109.2 with SMTP id l2mr2349713pym; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.20.7 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 04:40:04 -0600 From: "James Carroll" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6688_26513123.1150022404549" References: <1150020822.5937.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.331 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.134, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.331 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:42:35 -0000 ------=_Part_6688_26513123.1150022404549 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 6/11/06, Bengt Thuree wrote: > Have you done the "make install" ? Yes. But I wasn't sure from which directory to run it. From your directions, I don't think it's clear if I should be in ~/development/f-spot/f-spot/src or ~/development/f-spot/f-spot/ Either way, I ran it in both (I assume the Makefile in the parent directory calls the Makefile in the subdirectory) and I still get the same error. Do I need to run it as root (with sudo)? F-Spot will look for some libraries in the /home/james/unstable/f-spot > directory even if you run the uninstalled version. What is the "uninstalled version"? To me, it seems impossible to run a program that's not installed on your computer. Is this a common term when working with projects under development, in which you might have one version "installed" and other versions in various directories, that aren't "installed"? /Bengt James ------=_Part_6688_26513123.1150022404549 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 6/11/06, Bengt Thuree <bengt@thuree.com > wrote:
Have you done the "make install" ?

Yes. But I wasn't sure from which directory to run it.  From your directions, I don't think it's clear if I should be in
~/development/f-spot/f-spot/src
or
~/development/f-spot/f-spot/

Either way, I ran it in both (I assume the Makefile in the parent directory calls the Makefile in the subdirectory) and I still get the same error.  Do I need to run it as root (with sudo)?

F-Spot will look for some libraries in the /home/james/unstable/f-spot
directory even if you run the uninstalled version.

What is the "uninstalled version"?  To me, it seems impossible to run a program that's not installed on your computer.  Is this a common term when working with projects under development, in which you might have one version "installed" and other versions in various directories, that aren't "installed"?

/Bengt
 
James

------=_Part_6688_26513123.1150022404549-- From janne.ojaniemi@nbl.fi Sun Jun 11 07:32:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387523B063F for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06916-03 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:32:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.nblnetworks.fi (smtp2.nblnetworks.fi [217.30.182.231]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339503B0640 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:32:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (xdsl-176-84.nblnetworks.fi [217.30.176.84]) by smtp2.nblnetworks.fi (8.13.1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k5BBXu9M021198 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:33:57 +0300 From: Janne Ojaniemi To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:31:38 +0300 Message-Id: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 11:32:06 -0000 What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs are unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, F-Spot constantly fights against me. So I have a bunch of photos on my computer. They are NOT in my home-folder, but rather in /multimedia/pics. This way they are accessible to my wife as well. And in that directory, they are also divided among different folders, named after the subject. This way I can browse the pictures in filemanager as well, should the need arise. Sounds simple enough? Yes it does. But why is this setup so difficult for F-Spot to handle? I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, select "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to photos-folder", and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. After the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is it? Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to select "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to find out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me where those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are located in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the date of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be in /multimedia/pics/ I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the Photos-folder. Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same set of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I edit any of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. I just re-tried the import, after I deleted the photos-folder from my home. And again it copied the files to my home. I then deleted the photos-folder again, and the thumbnails were still visible in F-Spot, but full-size photos were not. Why can't I do something as simple as this: Tell F-spot to import photos from certain folder and NOT copy the files ANYWHERE. Just import the photos, but leave the actual files where they are! IIRC I ONCE managed to make F-spot really use the /multimedia/pics, but even then, if I imported pics from my camera, F-Spot always imported them to /home/photos. So my pictures were split among two locations, when I really want to have all my pics in one location. Why is this so hard? It feels like that F-Spot has certain way of working, and it wont budge from that way. And I would have to adjust my way of working to suit F-Spot. And we are not talking about anything fundamental here, we are talking about the location where the pictures are stored! From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 11 08:55:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1333B00E2 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:55:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09811-06 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:55:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B55F3B00BB for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:55:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5BCsXfR007188 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:54:33 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: James Carroll In-Reply-To: References: <1150020822.5937.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:54:40 +1000 Message-Id: <1150030480.5937.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:55:12 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 04:40 -0600, James Carroll wrote: > On 6/11/06, Bengt Thuree wrote: > > Have you done the "make install" ? > > Yes. But I wasn't sure from which directory to run it. From your > directions, I don't think it's clear if I should be in > ~/development/f-spot/f-spot/src > or > ~/development/f-spot/f-spot/ Ok, I updated the instructions a bit. You should do the "make all", "make install", or "make all install" from the f-spot directory. Not the src directory. > > Either way, I ran it in both (I assume the Makefile in the parent > directory calls the Makefile in the subdirectory) and I still get the > same error. Do I need to run it as root (with sudo)? No need to run it as root (sudo), since you specified a target directory which is writable by your user. > > > F-Spot will look for some libraries in > the /home/james/unstable/f-spot > directory even if you run the uninstalled version. > > What is the "uninstalled version"? To me, it seems impossible to run > a program that's not installed on your computer. Is this a common > term when working with projects under development, in which you might > have one version "installed" and other versions in various > directories, that aren't "installed"? F-Spot can be run after you have done a "make all", by changing directory to src, and then give the command "./f-spot --uninstalled" But it will need some library files which it tries to find from the installation directory, so you will have to have done at least one "make install" My target directory's lib files are the following: > > ls /opt/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/ > FlickrNet.dll libfspoteog.so libfspotjpegtran.so.0 libgphoto2-sharp.dll > f-spot.exe libfspoteog.so.0 libfspotjpegtran.so.0.0.0 libgphoto2-sharp.dll.config > f-spot.exe.config libfspoteog.so.0.0.0 libfspot.la SemWeb.dll > libfspot.a libfspotjpegtran.a libfspot.so > libfspoteog.a libfspotjpegtran.la libfspot.so.0 > libfspoteog.la libfspotjpegtran.so libfspot.so.0.0.0 Can you perhaps send the console commands and output when you try and run the CVS version? (including how you start f-spot) /Bengt From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 13:12:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E953B01E3 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:12:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23016-08 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2553B01AA for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:12:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so795377nfc for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:11:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=jmJsArqQVOiw7tOxqiMXvx0gwSNK42zV+zrK/jnf39AUtWZdTMvDsGoDqhZZXYC9RQphNlZ+iPRtUJ8WZUyJ66FiB8HiuD766aExGbt5I6ub/JCTLSXUYjS6Rg5oUp5D0xb0GHDRMCF9+d66cy3gikrM1pNcEhTW5ELUZEQVZzU= Received: by 10.48.213.1 with SMTP id l1mr4142637nfg; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:11:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C0A840.access.telenet.be ( [84.192.168.64]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10sm5595991nfb.2006.06.11.10.11.40; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:11:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:11:39 +0200 Message-Id: <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.263 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.337, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.263 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 17:12:24 -0000 Hi Janne, On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 14:31 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs are > unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, F-Spot > constantly fights against me. > > So I have a bunch of photos on my computer. They are NOT in my > home-folder, but rather in /multimedia/pics. This way they are > accessible to my wife as well. And in that directory, they are also > divided among different folders, named after the subject. This way I can > browse the pictures in filemanager as well, should the need arise. > Sounds simple enough? Yes it does. But why is this setup so difficult > for F-Spot to handle? > > I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the > import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, select > "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to photos-folder", > and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. After > the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is it? > Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem > (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to select > "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to find > out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me where > those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are located > in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the date > of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be > in /multimedia/pics/ > > I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the Photos-folder. > Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same set > of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I edit any > of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my > home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. > > I just re-tried the import, after I deleted the photos-folder from my > home. And again it copied the files to my home. I then deleted the > photos-folder again, and the thumbnails were still visible in F-Spot, > but full-size photos were not. > > Why can't I do something as simple as this: Tell F-spot to import photos > from certain folder and NOT copy the files ANYWHERE. Just import the > photos, but leave the actual files where they are! > > IIRC I ONCE managed to make F-spot really use the /multimedia/pics, but > even then, if I imported pics from my camera, F-Spot always imported > them to /home/photos. So my pictures were split among two locations, > when I really want to have all my pics in one location. > > Why is this so hard? It feels like that F-Spot has certain way of > working, and it wont budge from that way. And I would have to adjust my > way of working to suit F-Spot. And we are not talking about anything > fundamental here, we are talking about the location where the pictures > are stored! Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: 1. count to ten, think of the possibility that you might have bumped into a bug 2. ask someone on irc, or on the mailing list to see if they could reproduce the behaviour 3. file a bug in bugzilla.gnome.org so people could take care of it I think that all this negative energy isn't going to get you anywhere. Regards, Thomas From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 16:19:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751723B0159 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:19:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32157-09 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:19:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930A63B00CA for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:19:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so805830nfe for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:18:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=d8C1FvMddnGIX2+QzDT+AsXHSpw4RGo8zrMlVNqTE4lLcGwFNq6RS3tx6HYRWazxU5bj6kGIFubTj+/wRfVnG/EVzQyd5CFCjdTDK8vpBHa1a0ABmt/ICj237PdEomTrpGS8nlfKlvc4TiBAncyT6PSP2cHh4FlZZ4JDjRpVT7U= Received: by 10.48.213.11 with SMTP id l11mr4233187nfg; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C0A840.access.telenet.be ( [84.192.168.64]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x1sm5709776nfb.2006.06.11.12.49.38; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:49:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 21:49:37 +0200 Message-Id: <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.323 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.277, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.323 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:19:49 -0000 Hi Janne, On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 19:11 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long > > rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: > > I apologize for my negativity. I really do. I had just spent quite a bit > of time importing pictures, only to find out that I had bunch of photos > in place where I did not want them. So I was quite pissed off when I > wrote my initial message. > I understand you were pissed off, but admit you were a bit hard ;-) > > 2. ask someone on irc, or on the mailing list to see if they could > > reproduce the behaviour > > Well, I thought that I just described my problem. > Yeah, you _kind of_ described your problem, but you left out a lot of details: * what version of f-spot are you running? * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your miserable state :-p What I suggest you do is the following: * remove the f-spot sqlite db, it's ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db * re-start f-spot, perform the import again but uncheck the "copy" checkbox _before_ you select a folder to import from * open the f-spot database by executing $sqlite ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db * perform a select * from photos go and look at the paths that appear in the output: do they point to your original directory or to the local ~/Photos dir? Regards, Thomas From m487396@rocketmail.com Sun Jun 11 16:24:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB4E3B0422 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:24:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32591-08 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.83]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA3033B026B for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:24:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23382 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jun 2006 20:23:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rocketmail.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZtGEKjbe8SmlcRnL6JNb8V7bOO7XXZ2d1xVZDU1DEL+EzwT1v85Mi/nMmPonGIL+rfPO7KjBC9fPSOTIeThLPgpBcVYIjRmVoLjnlJ26QUCuI7ftsF7QuruflaRPhHAz/dYYGsnljFS7BBMjNKJHzMuBoW51Nd/qBbRWHUKFydE= ; Message-ID: <20060611202351.23380.qmail@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [211.31.121.246] by web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 06:23:51 EST Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 06:23:51 +1000 (EST) From: "Mark A. Bell" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.487 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.088, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.487 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:24:41 -0000 Hi Janne, I don't know enough about f-spot to configure it correctly for you, but it sounds like gthumb would do the kind of things you want. gthumb http://gthumb.sourceforge.net/features.html regards, - mark sydney, australia http://www.flickr.com/photos/m487396 Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 14:31 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs > are > > unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, > F-Spot > > constantly fights against me. > > > > So I have a bunch of photos on my computer. They are NOT in my > > home-folder, but rather in /multimedia/pics. This way they are > > accessible to my wife as well. And in that directory, they are also > > divided among different folders, named after the subject. This way > I can > > browse the pictures in filemanager as well, should the need arise. > > Sounds simple enough? Yes it does. But why is this setup so > difficult > > for F-Spot to handle? > > > > I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the > > import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, > select > > "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to > photos-folder", > > and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. > After > > the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is > it? > > Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem > > (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to > select > > "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to > find > > out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me > where > > those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are > located > > in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the > date > > of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be > > in /multimedia/pics/ > > > > I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the > Photos-folder. > > Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same > set > > of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I > edit any > > of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my > > home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. > > > > I just re-tried the import, after I deleted the photos-folder from > my > > home. And again it copied the files to my home. I then deleted the > > photos-folder again, and the thumbnails were still visible in > F-Spot, > > but full-size photos were not. > > > > Why can't I do something as simple as this: Tell F-spot to import > photos > > from certain folder and NOT copy the files ANYWHERE. Just import > the > > photos, but leave the actual files where they are! > > > > IIRC I ONCE managed to make F-spot really use the /multimedia/pics, > but > > even then, if I imported pics from my camera, F-Spot always > imported > > them to /home/photos. So my pictures were split among two > locations, > > when I really want to have all my pics in one location. > > > > Why is this so hard? It feels like that F-Spot has certain way of > > working, and it wont budge from that way. And I would have to > adjust my > > way of working to suit F-Spot. And we are not talking about > anything > > fundamental here, we are talking about the location where the > pictures > > are stored! Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com From suser.koolinus@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 19:18:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D6B3B0346 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07664-10 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA343B01CC for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:18:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id s2so2120990uge for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:18:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=NZ0TIAm0g+h+U15yh1RHHAeDqDs08Kt85AgWgdvYYkHW2mbbHdcPFhJ8G8A0SqngkqX09zpA20u0TdVmVwaNXYPP9+6Pz745RzlGi7OrM7rM+C4tUm6O+PaeGh8aYIO7mBViLeu2wNsnCFo80ZMUo88F2wlXeaVU1YyXASb9H4U= Received: by 10.67.101.10 with SMTP id d10mr4592676ugm; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:08:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.46.2? ( [151.49.12.117]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q40sm4531169ugc.2006.06.11.16.08.01; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:08:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:08:27 +0200 Message-Id: <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.243 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.201, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.243 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 23:18:58 -0000 Il giorno dom, 11/06/2006 alle 21.49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen ha scritto: > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > Well, I thought that I just described my problem. > Yeah, you _kind of_ described your problem, but you left out a lot of > details: > > * what version of f-spot are you running? > * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? > * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your > miserable state :-p Hi Thomas, the "importing" behaviour described by Janne in his mail has always occurred to me too. I have my images in /mnt/fat32partition/images. Importing them in F-Spot has always caused the creation of a /home/user/Photos directory exactly the *same* size of /mnt/fat32part/images before said and with an internal structure as: /home/user/Photos/year/month/day/filename.jpg This has happened to me at least with Ubuntu 5.10, Ubuntu 6.06, Mandriva 2006, SUSE 10.0 and Fedora Core 5, rightafter importing images in F-Spot at it's first launch. So it gotta be a pretty common problem. I didn't find Janne's mail offensive or anything than pissed off. Now we should understand if he's signaled a bug or a wanted feature ;-) -- nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito http://koolinus.wordpress.com http://www.koolinus.net "If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy." Linux Registered User #293182 From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 11 20:27:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692BA3B00B7 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:27:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10384-06 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:27:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (1-1-3-2a.ehn.lk.bostream.se [82.183.137.113]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04BB3B00ED for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:27:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by denton.thuree.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDACA3AA9B for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 02:00:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 194.237.142.5 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bengt) by denton.thuree.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:00:51 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <17672.194.237.142.5.1150070451.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> In-Reply-To: <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:00:51 +0900 (JST) From: "Bengt Thuree" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-thuree-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-thuree-MailScanner-From: bengt@thuree.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 00:27:31 -0000 On Må, 2006-06-12, 08:08, nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito skrev: > Il giorno dom, 11/06/2006 alle 21.49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen ha > scritto: > >> On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: >> > Well, I thought that I just described my problem. > >> Yeah, you _kind of_ described your problem, but you left out a lot of >> details: >> >> * what version of f-spot are you running? >> * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? >> * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your >> miserable state :-p > > > Hi Thomas, > the "importing" behaviour described by Janne in his mail has always > occurred to me too. > > I have my images in /mnt/fat32partition/images. > > Importing them in F-Spot has always caused the creation of > a /home/user/Photos directory exactly the *same* size > of /mnt/fat32part/images before said and with an internal structure > as: /home/user/Photos/year/month/day/filename.jpg That is what copy usually does :) And since we are talking about photos, it is way better to be safe than sorry. But Larry is working on changing the import handling. > > I didn't find Janne's mail offensive or anything than pissed off. Now we > should understand if he's signaled a bug or a wanted feature ;-) To be honest, I agree with Thomas in this one. The mail did come out a bit harsh perhaps. Thomas had some nice suggestions as well. But totally agreeing with the frustration of Janne and others though. Tried to reply yesterday with a number of bugs that are related to this issue, but the mail seems not to have arrived to f-spot-list yet. So, here comes the bugs http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333503 (which is your problem) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337250 (specify Photos place) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318519 (lots of complaints) etc.... Anyway, nothing bad from it, and it did also highlight the fact that F-Spot is popular and becoming more so. With this comes more people using it, and a lot more different ways. F-Spot needs to handle this one way or another. /Bengt From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Mon Jun 12 01:04:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D953B00A7 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:04:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19740-03 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:04:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C721B3B000D for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:03:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h2so829310nfe for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:03:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=XZwv6v70/NHOz01EwFUE6ornrJrDXriY6+7SkIj7j5oCDgDFiLQqN7lDNmOMISDVXbdAlM+QVaHoFSG91noL+dpavcs41jRrQzfms+EzLtj2hDA0xNkUP9uADc3OgEI1QUpcCGpVmkzOzunb+mW4lLjdFiDOZvHy3wdWJY9QvFU= Received: by 10.49.92.15 with SMTP id u15mr4521889nfl; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:03:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C0A840.access.telenet.be ( [84.192.168.64]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l21sm4214223nfc.2006.06.11.22.03.10; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:03:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: "nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito" In-Reply-To: <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:03:09 +0200 Message-Id: <1150088589.6432.4.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.364 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.236, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.364 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 05:04:03 -0000 Hi all, On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 01:08 +0200, nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito wrote: > Hi Thomas, > the "importing" behaviour described by Janne in his mail has always > occurred to me too. > > I have my images in /mnt/fat32partition/images. > > Importing them in F-Spot has always caused the creation of > a /home/user/Photos directory exactly the *same* size > of /mnt/fat32part/images before said and with an internal structure > as: /home/user/Photos/year/month/day/filename.jpg > What I think has happened to both of you is the following. When you open the import dialog and select a directory before you uncheck the "copy" button, I think - but I might be wrong, I would have to check - that f-spot copies the photos to the Photos directory. If you then uncheck the button and perform the actual import, everything is imported correctly, but the Photos directory is not cleaned up accordingly. > This has happened to me at least with Ubuntu 5.10, Ubuntu 6.06, Mandriva > 2006, SUSE 10.0 and Fedora Core 5, rightafter importing images in F-Spot > at it's first launch. So it gotta be a pretty common problem. > If I'm not mistaken, there have been several fixes for this in CVS head, which are not in any released version yet. Larry, can you confirm this? Best Regards, Thomas From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 12 07:12:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB01A3B0061 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32130-01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:12:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.136]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F813B0078 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:12:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.185]) by fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5BCiZD7003471 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:44:36 +1000 Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5BCdNrY002229 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:39:25 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:39:27 +1000 Message-Id: <1150029567.5937.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:12:33 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 14:31 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs are > unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, F-Spot > constantly fights against me. Well, the version number is still far from 1.0.0 :) > > I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the > import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, select > "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to photos-folder", > and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. After > the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is it? > Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem > (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to select > "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to find > out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me where > those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are located > in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the date > of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be > in /multimedia/pics/ > > I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the Photos-folder. > Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same set > of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I edit any > of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my > home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. Do the following: 1) Click on PLUS or choose File -> Import 2) Unselect COPY to Photos 3) Choose location of the photos to be imported 4) Perform the import And yes, there are numerous bugs in Bugzilla on the import function. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333503 (which is your problem) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337250 (specify Photos place) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318519 (lots of complaints) Larry has mention he is rewriting it to fix most or all of the problems. And yes, there is also a patch in allowing you to specify your own Photos location. F-Spot is a desktop application, and as such it is not that easy to share everything around. It is one thing to share the actual photos, but F-Spot also have a database located in ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db where all the tags are stored for quick reference. And yes, there has been a number of bugs/mails about this as well. Please feel free to file bugs in BugZilla, since then the chance that they are fixed is that much higher :) /bengt From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 12 09:26:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3D53B00D4 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:26:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04111-04 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:26:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7513B0010 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:26:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5CDPCVK022421 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:25:12 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: James Carroll In-Reply-To: References: <1150020822.5937.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:25:12 +1000 Message-Id: <1150118713.5937.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:26:05 -0000 Hi James Try the following 1) checkout a new version of F-Spot 2) cd to the just checkout directory 3) autogen.sh --prefix=/home//unstable/f-spot 4) make all 5) make install 6) cd ~/unstable/f-spot/bin 7) ./f-spot if this do not work, perhaps you can try to remove everything on your computer related to F-Spot? apt-get remove f-spot updatedb locate f-spot, and remove everything, and then start from 1 again? /Bengt From janne.ojaniemi@nbl.fi Mon Jun 12 14:02:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070DB3B08DE for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:02:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21917-09 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.nblnetworks.fi (smtp2.nblnetworks.fi [217.30.182.231]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024783B0504 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 12:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (xdsl-176-84.nblnetworks.fi [217.30.176.84]) by smtp2.nblnetworks.fi (8.13.1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k5CGtEtI005527; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:55:14 +0300 From: Janne Ojaniemi To: Thomas Van Machelen In-Reply-To: <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:52:41 +0300 Message-Id: <1150131161.7085.6.camel@serenity> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:02:32 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 21:49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > Hi Janne, > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 19:11 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > > Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long > > > rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: > > > > I apologize for my negativity. I really do. I had just spent quite a bit > > of time importing pictures, only to find out that I had bunch of photos > > in place where I did not want them. So I was quite pissed off when I > > wrote my initial message. > > > > I understand you were pissed off, but admit you were a bit hard ;-) Yeah, I was :(... > * what version of f-spot are you running? 0.11.1 > * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? It's the one that is available for Ubuntu. 0.11.1-1ubuntu1 > * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your > miserable state :-p I had bunch of pics in /multimedia/pics. I used the import-tool in F-spot to import them to F-spot. I did not want those pics to be copied from their present location, so I unselect the "copy to Photos-fodler". The problem it seems was that I unselected the "copy to..." AFTER I had selected the folder to import. When I unchecked it before the folder-selection, all works like it should :) From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Mon Jun 12 14:24:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E481B3B010E for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:24:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24480-01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC003B011A for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:24:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so955622nfc for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:24:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=kzTYyWOWYfIRDqbJi4IFTF9LCkkNOSdUcXlzQuHyZ7wffcZSKzrQce/Bjx6C6jJ5NJoU+Bl9wpyO/uPgKrJaL38IfTMWNmHH0cl31v2ns4ytzXT7lt1CZR89YdMA527OnedouvizgHC3o1i1J+lT44H0rJ/su2B4d7WtEFFlzq4= Received: by 10.49.3.16 with SMTP id f16mr5126203nfi; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C0A840.access.telenet.be ( [84.192.168.64]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id b1sm5919141nfe.2006.06.12.11.24.08; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:24:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150131161.7085.6.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> <1150131161.7085.6.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:24:07 +0200 Message-Id: <1150136647.5262.0.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.395 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.205, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.395 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:24:45 -0000 On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 19:52 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 21:49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > Hi Janne, > > > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 19:11 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > > > Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long > > > > rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: > > > > > > I apologize for my negativity. I really do. I had just spent quite a bit > > > of time importing pictures, only to find out that I had bunch of photos > > > in place where I did not want them. So I was quite pissed off when I > > > wrote my initial message. > > > > > > > I understand you were pissed off, but admit you were a bit hard ;-) > > Yeah, I was :(... > > > * what version of f-spot are you running? > > 0.11.1 > > > * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? > > It's the one that is available for Ubuntu. 0.11.1-1ubuntu1 > > > * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your > > miserable state :-p > > I had bunch of pics in /multimedia/pics. I used the import-tool in > F-spot to import them to F-spot. I did not want those pics to be copied > from their present location, so I unselect the "copy to Photos-fodler". > The problem it seems was that I unselected the "copy to..." AFTER I had > selected the folder to import. When I unchecked it before the > folder-selection, all works like it should :) > Cool, and as Larry confirmed this is fixed in cvs head, everybody's happy. Nice :-) From lewing@novell.com Mon Jun 12 15:26:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94DE3B00AF for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:26:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27322-01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:26:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6848E3B0010 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:26:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21900 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2006 18:24:00 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jun 2006 18:24:00 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:32:12 -0500 Message-Id: <1150137133.3676.21.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:26:57 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 14:31 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs are > unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, F-Spot > constantly fights against me. > > So I have a bunch of photos on my computer. They are NOT in my > home-folder, but rather in /multimedia/pics. This way they are > accessible to my wife as well. And in that directory, they are also > divided among different folders, named after the subject. This way I can > browse the pictures in filemanager as well, should the need arise. > Sounds simple enough? Yes it does. But why is this setup so difficult > for F-Spot to handle? > > I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the > import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, select > "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to photos-folder", > and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. After > the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is it? > Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem > (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to select > "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to find > out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me where > those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are located > in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the date > of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be > in /multimedia/pics/ > > I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the Photos-folder. > Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same set > of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I edit any > of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my > home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. > > I just re-tried the import, after I deleted the photos-folder from my > home. And again it copied the files to my home. I then deleted the > photos-folder again, and the thumbnails were still visible in F-Spot, > but full-size photos were not. > > Why can't I do something as simple as this: Tell F-spot to import photos > from certain folder and NOT copy the files ANYWHERE. Just import the > photos, but leave the actual files where they are! > > IIRC I ONCE managed to make F-spot really use the /multimedia/pics, but > even then, if I imported pics from my camera, F-Spot always imported > them to /home/photos. So my pictures were split among two locations, > when I really want to have all my pics in one location. > > Why is this so hard? It feels like that F-Spot has certain way of > working, and it wont budge from that way. And I would have to adjust my > way of working to suit F-Spot. And we are not talking about anything > fundamental here, we are talking about the location where the pictures > are stored! > The copy thing is a bug it was fixed a few weeks ago in cvs. There had been a couple of unsuccessful attempts to fix it before that. Selecting the import directories when using f-spot to do the import is on the list of things that will probably go in but hasn't been done (completely) yet. There are patches that have been sent to this list in the last few days that start to address the issue. I'm sorry you have found using f-spot so frustrating, but I can't do much more to help than try to resolve the problems. --Larry From lewing@novell.com Mon Jun 12 15:33:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4463B0078 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:33:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27527-02 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90DEB3B00AF for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21907 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2006 18:31:56 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jun 2006 18:31:56 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Thomas Van Machelen In-Reply-To: <1150088589.6432.4.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> <1150088589.6432.4.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:40:08 -0500 Message-Id: <1150137608.3676.31.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:33:14 -0000 On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 07:03 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > Hi all, > > On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 01:08 +0200, nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito wrote: > > Hi Thomas, > > the "importing" behaviour described by Janne in his mail has always > > occurred to me too. > > > > I have my images in /mnt/fat32partition/images. > > > > Importing them in F-Spot has always caused the creation of > > a /home/user/Photos directory exactly the *same* size > > of /mnt/fat32part/images before said and with an internal structure > > as: /home/user/Photos/year/month/day/filename.jpg > > > > What I think has happened to both of you is the following. When you > open the import dialog and select a directory before you uncheck the > "copy" button, I think - but I might be wrong, I would have to check - > that f-spot copies the photos to the Photos directory. If you then > uncheck the button and perform the actual import, everything is imported > correctly, but the Photos directory is not cleaned up accordingly. > Right this is roughly the version of the bug that dapper shipped with iirc. The latest code fixes all this hoop jumping as well. > > This has happened to me at least with Ubuntu 5.10, Ubuntu 6.06, Mandriva > > 2006, SUSE 10.0 and Fedora Core 5, rightafter importing images in F-Spot > > at it's first launch. So it gotta be a pretty common problem. > > > > If I'm not mistaken, there have been several fixes for this in CVS head, > which are not in any released version yet. Larry, can you confirm this? > I can, and as I've said in this an other messages this is fixed in cvs trunk and stable. I'd happily release a new stable version today if I had any reason to believe the various distributions would ship it, but they are all currently frozen so the utility of doing that is questionable. --Larry From lewing@novell.com Mon Jun 12 15:54:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBB83B00E5 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:54:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28147-01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E733B0078 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21861 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2006 18:06:42 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jun 2006 18:06:42 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Thomas Van Machelen In-Reply-To: <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:14:49 -0500 Message-Id: <1150136089.3676.6.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:54:51 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 21:49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > Hi Janne, > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 19:11 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > > Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long > > > rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: > > > > I apologize for my negativity. I really do. I had just spent quite a bit > > of time importing pictures, only to find out that I had bunch of photos > > in place where I did not want them. So I was quite pissed off when I > > wrote my initial message. > > > > I understand you were pissed off, but admit you were a bit hard ;-) > > > > 2. ask someone on irc, or on the mailing list to see if they could > > > reproduce the behaviour > > > > Well, I thought that I just described my problem. > > > > Yeah, you _kind of_ described your problem, but you left out a lot of > details: > > * what version of f-spot are you running? > * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? > * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your > miserable state :-p > > What I suggest you do is the following: > * remove the f-spot sqlite db, it's ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db > * re-start f-spot, perform the import again but uncheck the "copy" > checkbox _before_ you select a folder to import from > * open the f-spot database by executing > $sqlite ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db > * perform a select * from photos go and look at the paths that appear in > the output: do they point to your original directory or to the local > ~/Photos dir? Just to be clear, this "copy check doesn't work bug" should be fixed in both head and stable for about two weeks. For those interested in having and f-spot that isn't quite so buggy as what is currently shipping in dapper and/or fc5 but who don't want to track the cutting edge use the fspot_0_1_branch in cvs. At lot of things have been fixed since 0.1.11. --Larry From stephane@delcroix.org Tue Jun 13 04:09:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339AB3B00C9 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15736-04 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:09:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4767B3B008F for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:09:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4157 invoked by uid 503); 13 Jun 2006 08:09:45 -0000 Received: from b7.ovh.net (HELO mail150.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.57) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2006 08:09:45 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2006 08:07:58 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2006 08:07:55 -0000 From: Stephane Delcroix To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 10:08:23 +0200 Message-Id: <1150186103.5901.15.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.181 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.275, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558] X-Spam-Score: -1.181 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Speeding up F-Spot X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:09:21 -0000 I'd just like to point your attention on two patches sleeping in bugzilla. Both are related to speed up f-spot and responsiveness. If you only have time to try and report on two patches in the following days, choose those ones !!! WorkerThread + Database threading, bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337724, patch http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=66967 : A hard name for a very good patch. Allow f-spot to write metadata in the background (thing about tagging, adjusting time, changing orientation, ...). You can even stop f-spot with some background action remaining. Next time you start, the process will continue. Thumbs up to Ruben! Progressive redraw, bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343856, patch http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=67011 : Precache images when browsing in Edit View or in FullScreen View. No more apparent redraw. Amazing! Thanks wjbaird! rgds, Stephane From gcgaf-f-spot-list@m.gmane.org Tue Jun 13 22:01:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C9D3B00D4 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:01:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13167-07 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4522C3B00C8 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FqKfq-0004If-7N for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:00:02 +0200 Received: from dsl-165-255-37.telkomadsl.co.za ([165.165.255.37]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:00:02 +0200 Received: from nmarais by dsl-165-255-37.telkomadsl.co.za with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:00:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Neilen Marais Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 03:34:29 +0200 Lines: 181 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dsl-165-255-37.telkomadsl.co.za User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Big Collections/Complex Meta-data/Is F-spot (going) to be for me? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:01:05 -0000 Hi I have a pretty big image database (about 12k photos) with fairly complex meta-data maintained in KPhotoAlbum. I've been eying F-spot for a while, since it has a very active community, looks pretty and seems quite nice to use. I also prefer GNOME apps all else being equal. KPhotoAlbum is not quite as smooth, but it's interface seems more "scalable" to me, while F-spot tries (and manages very well) to make easy stuff easy. I'm also quite excited by F-spot's ability to handle picture versions and RAW files. I don't think scalable and easy need to be mutually exclusive though. I'll list some features in KPhotoAlbum that I find makes it very useful for large/complex collections, and why they are useful. Perhaps I can convince the right people that it may be useful to implement something similar (if not identical) in F-Spot. These comments refer to F-Spot 0.1.11, as shipped with Ubuntu Dapper. I'll refer to KPhotoAlbum as KP from here on to save typing. Separate "Namespaces" ===================== F-spot seems to require the last level of a tag to be unique. Besides offending my personal sense of logical aesthetics, it also poses practical problems ;P In KP, each top-level tag is called a Category, and the tags within each Category are completely independent. In my KP database I have a "People" category for people visible in the photo, and a "Photographer" category for the person who took the picture. Of course People can also be Photographers, but usually not at the same time. Also the total number of photographers aren't the same as the total number of peoplo. It's also possible that unrelated tags can coincidentally have the same name. E.g. if you travel all over the world and meet people from all over the world, it's not unlikely that some placename in one country may be the same as someones name in another. In fact, identical placenames are quite common. Places.USA.Alabama.Greenville is not the same as Places.USA.California.Greenville (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cities#Most_common_city_names for more fun.) One can disambiguate by having Greenville_CA, but I already told you it's in California, damnit ;) Actually this is a problem in KP as well, since it's doesn't do any hierarchy within a category. It does have membership groups that does something similar, but that does not solve this problem. Membership Groups ----------------- I think F-Spot's hierarchical tags can fill the same need, but I'll describe them so its clear what I'm talking about. I'll use the Places category as an example. Say the location is "Friendly Bob's House" in Pinelands (the town), Western Cape (the state), South Africa. In KP I can make the location "South Africa" a membership group. Then I can assign all the states in South Africa (that I have in my DB anyway) to this group (e.g. Western Cape, Gauteng, etc.). Then I make Western Cape another membership group, and assign all the cities to it (e.g. Pinelands, Cape Town, etc.). I make Pinelands a membership group, and add "Friendly Bob's house" to it. Now I tag the picture with only "Friendly Bob's house". Because of the membership groups, KP knows the picture also belongs to "Pinelands", "Western Cape" and "South Africa", and will be found by searches on any of those 4 locations. Of course, Locations.South Africa.Western Cape.Pinelands would do just as well. It will also be more explicit (good), and if F-Spot supported it, would be separate from Locations.South Africa.Kwazulu Natal.Pinelands (which also exists!) Default "And" searching ======================= >From reading the list it seems that F-Spot will get more searching options soon, but IMHO if you can have only one choice, "and" would be better than "or". I hope that when the more featureful searching comes, there will be an easy way to make the default "and". Restrict Tags when Searching ============================ This kind of goes together with the default "and" searching. KP's main interface shows you a list of top level tags, along with how many entries each has. e.g. Locations - 10 People - 6 Then you select People -> "Friendly Bob" You can then look at all the pictures containing Bob, or keep selecting search tags. However, all the tags that never occur with Bob are removed, e.g. Locations - 4 People - 3 I.o.w. you see only the Locations that Bob's been photographed at and only the people that have been photographed with Bob. Now select Locations -> "Friendly Bob's House", and look at the pictures of Bob at his house, or continue: Locations (greyed out, since there are no others) People - 2 Then you could choose to look at pictures of Bob with his wife, or Bob with his son. I like this feature for two reasons. 1) If you're and-searching, there's no point in seeing the tags that will result in no pictures being found. 2) Its nice to see, for instance, how many people you have photographed at a certain location. Scalable Tag Selection ====================== It's hard to compare KP directly to F-Spot here, since the interface paradigms are quite different, so I'll just sketch my problem. In KP I have 9 Categories (i.e. top level tags), and some of them have many subtags. E.g. Events - 143 Keywords - 21 Locations - 237 Persons - 203 Photographer - 33 I've only had a camera for about two years, but found I like both photography and detailed tagging. I'm sure these numbers will have grown considerably in 10 years time! I will always have at least one tag from each of the 5 categories I listed here attached to every picture, so it is critical that tags can be selected from a large selection easily. KP makes the default way of finding a tag incremental search, and also sorts tags in order of last use by default. It also manages each category completely separately which means the 100's of "Persons" tags don't make it hard to pick a tag from the "Keywords" category. While I haven't dealt with that many tags in F-Spot, my feeling is the tag toolbar/tree on the left of F-Spot will be fairly well suited to dealing with many tags. Other places, where there are flat lists with all tag hierarchies exploded, will probably be unpleasant to use. What I'd need to switch ======================= Like you care ;P Anyway, my needs in order of priority are 1) "Fully qualified" tag uniqueness (i.e. People.A != Places.A) 2) "And" searching 3) Tag Restrictions while and-searching 4) Improved UI for selecting from large numbers of tags 1) is completely critical, since I can't losslesly move my current data into F-Spot without it. 2) is pretty important. 3) and 4) would be nice to have, but not that important. If other people think it's a good idea, should I make feature requests on the F-spot bugzilla, or how should I go ahead? Thanks for listening Neilen -- you know its kind of tragic we live in the new world but we've lost the magic -- Battery 9 (www.battery9.co.za) From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 16 05:48:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633443B000B for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 05:48:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24488-02 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 05:48:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B126D3B0011 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 05:48:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1403732uge for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.17.1 with SMTP id 1mr940549huq; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:37:44 +0200 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Importing photos with tags MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:48:45 -0000 I have several hundered photos that were tagged in a Windows program (BrilliantPhoto). I can extract the tags with a script and create an XML file or SQL dump for the tags. How can I then import that into the F-spot database? Any documentation on the F-spot database would be helpful. Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://gmail-com.com From stephane@delcroix.org Fri Jun 16 10:22:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D667D3B0012 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:22:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31319-04 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:22:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09E23B0007 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:22:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19469 invoked by uid 503); 16 Jun 2006 14:23:03 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail56.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2006 14:23:02 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2006 14:20:45 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2006 14:20:42 -0000 Subject: plugin support for F-Spot From: Stephane Delcroix To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 16:20:57 +0200 Message-Id: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.500004/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.178 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.272, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558] X-Spam-Score: -1.178 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:22:25 -0000 Hi list, I've spend some time lately to develop a plugin facility for F-Spot. So far, I've a virtual plugin class, some methods to load plugins, and a testplugin. Thanks to Thomas and his solution to bug #344534, I've also a way to compile plugins without the F-Spot sources. The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my guess), but some people need this. I'll be happy to see any comments, remarks, requirements... regards, Stephane From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Fri Jun 16 21:25:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCE03B0204 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:25:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30558-07 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:25:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE40D3B01CC for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:25:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1829050uge for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.10 with SMTP id d10mr3246797ugm; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.27.18 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606161816l8e942a7w9c1623407f6fd397@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 05:16:36 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: plugin support for F-Spot In-Reply-To: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.909 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.133, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.909 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 01:25:33 -0000 On 6/16/06, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as > many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to > my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my > guess), but some people need this. Plug-in architecture is a very, very useful thing :) But in your approach it's not limited to exporting functions, right? Alexandre From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 16 21:34:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128F03B0208 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:34:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30551-08 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:34:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (1-1-3-2a.ehn.lk.bostream.se [82.183.137.113]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FC33B0234 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:34:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by denton.thuree.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E173AA93 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 03:08:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 194.237.142.10 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bengt) by denton.thuree.com with HTTP; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:08:46 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <54022.194.237.142.10.1150506526.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> In-Reply-To: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> References: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:08:46 +0900 (JST) Subject: Re: plugin support for F-Spot From: "Bengt Thuree" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-thuree-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-thuree-MailScanner-From: bengt@thuree.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 01:34:22 -0000 On Fr, 2006-06-16, 23:20, Stephane Delcroix skrev: > Hi list, > > I've spend some time lately to develop a plugin facility for F-Spot. So > far, I've a virtual plugin class, some methods to load plugins, and a > testplugin. Thanks to Thomas and his solution to bug #344534, I've also > a way to compile plugins without the F-Spot sources. > > The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as > many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to > my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my > guess), but some people need this. > > I'll be happy to see any comments, remarks, requirements... Cool, this will come in very handy I think. Also another plugin area would be to import old data. I can see a lot of users are having existing data in another format, and they would like to import it to F-Spot. F-Spot will probably handle the main import areas in core, but Mr XXX Super Duper Photo Software's format. Have you raised an enhancement bug so we kan track this one? /Bengt From bengt@thuree.com Sat Jun 17 04:47:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7872D3B02F8 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 04:47:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14722-04 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 04:47:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail27.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail27.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.168]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC973B010F for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 04:47:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail27.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5H8jqUY013434; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:45:53 +1000 Subject: Re: Importing photos with tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:45:51 +1000 Message-Id: <1150533952.6150.8.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.526 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.074, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.526 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 08:47:13 -0000 > > Thanks, I'll look into that. I'm really a novice, what I can do is > extract the IPTC data that the tags are currently in with PHP and then > produce a text file (be it XML or SQL) to work with. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > Actually, have a look at the JPG file first. If the tags are stored in IPTC as well as in XMP format, you should be able to use the patch I wrote to let F-Spot read XMP data. IViewMedia Pro, were only supposed to store in IPTC as far as I understood, but they also stored the tags in XMP format. Also, I think that F-Spot has prepared to deal with IPTC tags as well. Have a look and see in IptcFile.cs, and see if you can create a new patch based on the XMP importer? Anyway, gthumb stores its tags in an xml file per photo, so you can take a look at that patch. Good Luck /Bengt From dotancohen@gmail.com Sat Jun 17 12:23:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDE23B000D for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26967-02 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0C53B00D5 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:23:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2011270uge for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:22:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.47.9 with SMTP id u9mr1409565huu; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 19:21:59 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Import/ Export of tags MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 16:23:20 -0000 As I'm trying to decide which photo organiser to use (between DigiKam, F-spot, and KPhotoAlbum) I would really appreciate the ability to move photos from one program to the other and to keep my tags intact. A user on the Digikam mailing list had mentioned that he would like to tag his photos 'in the field' on his laptop and to import them into the program when he gets home. I think that a kipi Import/ Export feature would solve both our problems. It would create an XML file similar to this: People*Ester People*Studies*Eli People*Studies*Anna Place*Haifa People*Ester People*Dotan People*Army*Jacob Place*Jerusalem This can easily be imported by any application, and it provides for hierarchical tags. (levels seperated by asteriks) What does the F-spot community think of this? Would you like to be able to work on the tags on the go and to import them later? And to easily move from application to application? This would also provide a secure way to back up the current sqlite database in an accessable manner. (any text editor could open it) Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com 332 From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 18 06:32:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3623B0967 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:32:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18535-06 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.136]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B8E3B071B for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail26.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail26.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.167]) by fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5GLVAwQ011181 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 07:31:10 +1000 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail26.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5GLU5TO023274; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 07:30:05 +1000 Subject: Re: Importing photos with tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:29:56 +1000 Message-Id: <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.528 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.072, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.528 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:32:28 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 11:37 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I have several hundered photos that were tagged in a Windows program > (BrilliantPhoto). I can extract the tags with a script and create an > XML file or SQL dump for the tags. How can I then import that into the > F-spot database? Any documentation on the F-spot database would be > helpful. > > Thanks in advance. > Hi there are two patches in bugzilla that enable importing existing GThumb metadata, and iView Media Pro meta data (in fact also existing F-Spot meta data). http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322366 - GThumb tags http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 - F-Spot tags Perhaps you can write a small patch your self? And create a bug in bugzilla and attach it to :) /Bengt From jordan.d.miller@gmail.com Sun Jun 18 07:11:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6DE33B09F5 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:11:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20389-08 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F023B0939 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:11:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2178963uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.8 with SMTP id d8mr4041428ugm; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.32.4 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:10:27 -0500 From: "Jordan Miller" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: F-spot user forum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8200_13353278.1150629027803" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.055 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_00_10=0.795, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: 0.055 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:14 -0000 ------=_Part_8200_13353278.1150629027803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot Project page if there isn't one already. I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum structure. Thoughts, Jordan ------=_Part_8200_13353278.1150629027803 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot Project page if there isn't one already.

I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum structure.

Thoughts,

Jordan
------=_Part_8200_13353278.1150629027803-- From drberg1000@gmail.com Sun Jun 18 11:11:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029813B0C2B for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32093-09 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B203B0C12 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1035507pyd for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.103.12 with SMTP id f12mr7129453pym; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.82.13 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:03:41 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: "Jordan Miller" Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.383 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.217, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.383 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:11:11 -0000 On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > Project page if there isn't one already. I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as familiar with the programming tools. --Dave > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > structure. > > Thoughts, > > Jordan > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > From ken@vandine.org Sun Jun 18 14:20:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931943B00B2 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:20:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07107-02 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239F63B000A for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.107] (cpe-071-065-240-185.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.240.185]) by ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5IHXuDe018625; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:33:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: F-spot user forum From: Ken VanDine To: David Berg In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:33:52 -0400 Message-Id: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.236 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.364, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.236 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:20:15 -0000 Actually, f-spot.org is a wiki. MediaWiki to be precise. I know MW has support for a forum like commenting system. Not sure what folks thing about using that. --Ken On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 10:03 -0500, David Berg wrote: > On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > > Project page if there isn't one already. > > I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow > documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as > familiar with the programming tools. > > --Dave > > > > > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > > structure. > > > > Thoughts, > > > > Jordan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 18 18:54:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD953B0071 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:54:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12735-04 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:54:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.193]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6591D3B00AF for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5IMrQQY020575 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:53:27 +1000 Subject: Re: F-spot user forum From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:53:26 +1000 Message-Id: <1150671206.5383.3.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.529 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.071, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.529 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:54:57 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 10:03 -0500, David Berg wrote: > On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > > Project page if there isn't one already. > > I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow > documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as > familiar with the programming tools. f-spot.org is a wiki.... > > --Dave > > > > > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > > structure. > > > > Thoughts, > > > > Jordan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Sun Jun 18 19:52:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAAD23B0308 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:52:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15600-10 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:52:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC7C3B0E41 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:50:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2307846uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.10 with SMTP id d10mr1288767ugm; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.27.18 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606181649t6dc94c14s1c97d0c9d48b301a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:49:16 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.005 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.037, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.005 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:52:21 -0000 On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > structure. Why would you choose forum over existing wiki for storing ideas? Alexandre From gcgaf-f-spot-list@m.gmane.org Sun Jun 18 20:07:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADEC43B0223 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:07:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16137-07 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10243B0182 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:07:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Fs7GI-0003iB-2J for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:05:03 +0200 Received: from p54a1afb2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.161.175.178]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:05:02 +0200 Received: from colin by p54a1afb2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:05:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Colin Marquardt Subject: Re: F-spot user forum Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:59:33 +0200 Organization: I'd rather call it chaos. 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X-Now-Playing: Orphaned Land / Sahara -- [05] Seasons Unite X-Jabber-UID: cmarqu (see http://www.jabber.org) X-Home-Page: http://www.marquardt-home.de X-GnuPG-Key: gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.us.pgp.net --recv-keys 5359F413 X-Fingerprint: 6D9B 01B4 F8B9 500F 3056 D74F D27F EBF5 5359 F413 Cancel-Lock: sha1:K6/SELyPp8F6RwGWPi+X9Qrpu/k= Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.577 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.024, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.577 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:07:13 -0000 "Jordan Miller" writes: > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > Project page if there isn't one already. > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > structure. If you think more about searching and reading, how's this?: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.f-spot/1578 Cheers, Colin From drberg1000@gmail.com Sun Jun 18 22:52:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929363B03A9 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21279-10 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:52:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B2F3B0210 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:52:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1125529pyd for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.127.15 with SMTP id e15mr7784197pyn; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.82.13 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:51:02 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: "Ken VanDine" Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.393 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.207, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.393 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:52:06 -0000 On 6/18/06, Ken VanDine wrote: > Actually, f-spot.org is a wiki. MediaWiki to be precise. I know MW has > support for a forum like commenting system. Not sure what folks thing > about using that. Looking closer at the website I do see that it says MediaWiki. Though there doesn't seem to be any way to create an account. The "Create an Account or Log In" link doesn't allow for account creation. I guess I'm also not used to sites where information can only be accessed through searching for it or using a direct link. Perhaps a mechanism to browse the wiki would be useful. Perhaps I'm missing something when navigating the website but by looking at the main pages and a few of the ones they link to I don't see anything that would indicate there is more to the site than what I can see by browsing. --Dave > --Ken > > > On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 10:03 -0500, David Berg wrote: > > On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > > > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > > > Project page if there isn't one already. > > > > I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow > > documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as > > familiar with the programming tools. > > > > --Dave > > > > > > > > > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > > > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > > > structure. > > > > > > Thoughts, > > > > > > Jordan > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > F-spot-list mailing list > > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > From dotancohen@gmail.com Mon Jun 19 00:39:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400D23B0D22 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:39:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24632-05 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:39:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D353B0B1B for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:39:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2369453uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.33.17 with SMTP id g17mr1774973hug; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:38:39 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.408 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.366, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.408 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 04:39:53 -0000 I would be willing to run an f-spot FAQ site if someone would help me verify the correctness of the answers. Anybody who is interested can email me off list. My last wiki project turned into a hammer-the-spammer chase. If anybody has any questions with answers for a FAQ, then email them to me. I'll start compiling them and put them on a website. I haven't yet registered a name, but as soon as I see interest in the site from the list members I'll register one and get it started. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Mon Jun 19 01:42:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11923B0D4C for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:42:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26495-08 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:41:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15E43B0D43 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2393587uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.100.17 with SMTP id c17mr3950298ugm; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.27.18 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:41:16 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.788 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.812, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.788 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:42:00 -0000 On 6/19/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I would be willing to run an f-spot FAQ site if someone would help me > verify the correctness of the answers. Anybody who is interested can > email me off list. > > My last wiki project turned into a hammer-the-spammer chase. If > anybody has any questions with answers for a FAQ, then email them to > me. I'll start compiling them and put them on a website. I haven't yet > registered a name, but as soon as I see interest in the site from the > list members I'll register one and get it started. Why on Earth? We can simply grant you commit access to wiki. Alexandre From dotancohen@gmail.com Mon Jun 19 02:11:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93A63B02CF for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27360-08 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:11:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902943B00F5 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:11:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2407385uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.45.13 with SMTP id s13mr1846834hus; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:10:05 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.08 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.520, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.08 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 06:11:09 -0000 On 19/06/06, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > > Why on Earth? > > We can simply grant you commit access to wiki. > > Alexandre Have you seen what fedorafaq.org has done for Fedora? It's all the same information that is available in Fedora's wiki, but in a Q/A format on a single page. Also, and this may sound rediculous but it's true, having both the wiki and a seperate FAQ site is two sites supporting f-spot, rather than one. Even if they have mostly the same information. That's important for people googling solutions or considering a switch to fspot. I, for one, have reservations about switching to a product with very little in the way of online documentation. This will add to the amount of online documentation resources available to the community. I don't want to replace the wiki, rather to make a seperate source of information that is more concice and easier to digest. Dotan Cohen From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 19 05:06:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9093B0014 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01595-07 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:06:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fallbackmx02.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.72]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611453B0004 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:06:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail30.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail30.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.193]) by fallbackmx02.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5HLg71e010142 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:42:08 +1000 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail30.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5HLaHle030266; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:36:18 +1000 Subject: Re: Import/ Export of tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:36:16 +1000 Message-Id: <1150580177.6150.24.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.53 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.070, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.53 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:06:53 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-17 at 19:21 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > As I'm trying to decide which photo organiser to use (between DigiKam, > F-spot, and KPhotoAlbum) I would really appreciate the ability to move > photos from one program to the other and to keep my tags intact. A > user on the Digikam mailing list had mentioned that he would like to > tag his photos 'in the field' on his laptop and to import them into > the program when he gets home. I think that a kipi Import/ Export > feature would solve both our problems. It would create an XML file > similar to this: > > > People*Ester > People*Studies*Eli > People*Studies*Anna > Place*Haifa > > > > People*Ester > People*Dotan > People*Army*Jacob > Place*Jerusalem > Where should this file be. Same place as the photo? or other place? One file per photo, same as GThumb does it, or one file for all photos? Could be great to have it implemented with the new Plugin feature though :) So, with this way, you are not allowed to use a "*" as a character in any of your tags I take it? > > This can easily be imported by any application, and it provides for > hierarchical tags. (levels seperated by asteriks) > > What does the F-spot community think of this? Would you like to be > able to work on the tags on the go and to import them later? And to > easily move from application to application? This would also provide a > secure way to back up the current sqlite database in an accessable > manner. (any text editor could open it) In my humble opinion there is only one place to definitely store the tags to ensure that they follow the picture and that the tags are readable by any application. That would be embedded inside the photo in a standard way. Like EXIF/XMP. Then you do not need to worry about the tag file dissapears or (in your case) the photo location changes. Not to mention worry about what happends over the years, since EXIF/XMP follows the standard, then that should be as future proof we can get. This is one of the main reason I choose to go with F-Spot, since the other applications you mentioned do not store the tags embedded inside the photo (yet). Me, it is not always I travel with a laptop, but I have a portable harddisk which I store the photos on. If you want to tag photos on the field on your laptop, why not simply tag them directly in F-Spot in that case? Regarding backing up the SQlite database by storing the tags in an XML file, I do not think so. The SQlite database contains already more information than only the tags, and this will likely just increase. The main place for the tags to be backed up, would be that they are backed up together with the photo since the tags are stored embedded inside the photo also. As I mentioned above. This would be a great feature for the new plugin method some are working on. My humble AUD 0.02 cent /Bengt From mvermaat@cs.vu.nl Mon Jun 19 07:00:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A507A3B0091 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:00:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05478-01 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:00:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069583B008F for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:00:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from olympiaplein.xs4all.nl (olympiaplein.xs4all.nl [80.126.168.64]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5JAxGsm088831 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:59:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mvermaat@cs.vu.nl) Subject: Re: F-spot user forum From: Martijn Vermaat To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:59:27 +0200 Message-Id: <1150714768.5522.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.581 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.018, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.581 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 11:00:20 -0000 Op ma, 19-06-2006 te 09:10 +0300, schreef Dotan Cohen: > Also, and this may sound rediculous but it's true, having both the > wiki and a seperate FAQ site is two sites supporting f-spot, rather > than one. Even if they have mostly the same information. That's > important for people googling solutions or considering a switch to > fspot. I, for one, have reservations about switching to a product with > very little in the way of online documentation. This will add to the > amount of online documentation resources available to the community. While I appreciate your enthousiasm, you should be carefull with this. As an example, in the Ubuntu community I see more and more problems originating from 'third-party' documentation. Sometimes it's someone's ego, sometimes they just don't know how to contribute to the official sources, but documentation scattered around the web is a problem for a number of reasons: * Unfortunately, a lot of howto's and tutorials are of questionable quality and advocate bad practice solutions. There's no way for the project to control this. * Maintainability is a problem. New versions of the software require updated documentation. * Almost never are these howto's and tutorials available in more than one language. The official documentation for Ubuntu gets translated by the translation teams. F-Spot has not translated its homepage I think, but it could in the future. * Last but not least, duplicate efforts are often a waste of time, especially when the official source for documentation could have been improved and/or the alternative source is harder to find. Some alternative sources of documentation don't suffer from most or all of these problems, but I know that all these problems are serious for the Ubuntu community. I don't think other projects are different. > I don't want to replace the wiki, rather to make a seperate source of > information that is more concice and easier to digest. Why not add some sort of FAQ page to the wiki in the form you envision? If people really need it, I think you would certainly be allowed to work on that. -- Martijn Vermaat mvermaat@cs.vu.nl http://www.cs.vu.nl/~mvermaat/ From dkoeb@ist.tugraz.at Mon Jun 19 16:13:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134363B0217 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:13:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30271-07 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:12:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chicago097.thex.at (chicago097.thex.at [217.172.179.97]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CADB13B0D15 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leia.peony.at ([192.168.3.19]) by chicago097.thex.at (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id k5JKBegx001484 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:11:42 +0200 Received: from [192.168.5.108] (chello080109204215.2.sc-graz.chello.at [80.109.204.215]) (authenticated bits=0) by leia.peony.at (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id k5JKBFrJ007489 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:11:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Daniel_K=F6b?= Subject: Re: F-spot user forum Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:10:24 +0200 To: David Berg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at chicago097 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 20:13:01 -0000 Am 19.06.2006 um 04:51 schrieb David Berg: > I guess I'm also not used to sites where information can only be > accessed through searching for it or using a direct link. Perhaps a > mechanism to browse the wiki would be useful. Maybe you find one of these pages useful: http://f-spot.org/Special:Specialpages Daniel From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Mon Jun 19 22:05:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302153B0CC5 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:05:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16756-06 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:05:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.203]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958883B0ABD for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:05:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id x3so1236027nzd for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.251.10 with SMTP id y10mr6140024qbh; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f16sm2671314qba.2006.06.19.18.57.59; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:58:04 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list Subject: Re: F-spot user forum References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 02:05:45 -0000 Dotan Cohen wrote: > Have you seen what fedorafaq.org has done for Fedora? It's all the > same information that is available in Fedora's wiki, but in a Q/A > format on a single page. > > Also, and this may sound rediculous but it's true, having both the > wiki and a seperate FAQ site is two sites supporting f-spot, rather > than one. Even if they have mostly the same information. That's > important for people googling solutions or considering a switch to > fspot. I, for one, have reservations about switching to a product with > very little in the way of online documentation. This will add to the > amount of online documentation resources available to the community. I think this sounds pretty dangerous. F-spot is a great product, and I don't think having a second artificially created website will make it any more accepted or popular. Also, I think it would be bad to have a FAQ maintained separately from the main website - it would mean that the core contributors would have to log into two places to maintain things. Any time you put documentation in two places, you greatly increase the likelyhood of it going out of sync. However, having a FAQ section/page on the current site would be wonderful, and if you are still interested in doing it, I think that would be great! Warren From bengt@thuree.com Tue Jun 20 03:04:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A453B0F28 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:04:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31178-08 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:03:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (1-1-3-2a.ehn.lk.bostream.se [82.183.137.113]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC463B0DE5 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:03:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by denton.thuree.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905F13AA9B for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:02:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 194.237.142.21 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bengt) by denton.thuree.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:02:33 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <15179.194.237.142.21.1150786953.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> In-Reply-To: <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:02:33 +0900 (JST) Subject: Re: F-spot user forum From: "Bengt Thuree" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-thuree-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-thuree-MailScanner-From: bengt@thuree.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:04:01 -0000 On Ti, 2006-06-20, 10:58, Warren Baird skrev: > Dotan Cohen wrote: >> Have you seen what fedorafaq.org has done for Fedora? It's all the >> same information that is available in Fedora's wiki, but in a Q/A >> format on a single page. >> > > I think this sounds pretty dangerous. F-spot is a great product, and I > don't think having a second artificially created website will make it > any more accepted or popular. Definitely second this > > Also, I think it would be bad to have a FAQ maintained separately from > the main website - it would mean that the core contributors would have > to log into two places to maintain things. Again, definitely second this > However, having a FAQ section/page on the current site would be > wonderful, and if you are still interested in doing it, I think that > would be great! Just to repeat myself... Again, definitely second this To have the same material in many places will just cause a lot of problems. On the other hand, having reviews of F-Spot, or links to F-Spot in many places would be very nice. Another thing I have been thinking of, is to create a Concept Guide (and perhaps a Help manual). If you are unsure what I am talking about, please check GnuCash concept guide. Here is the link to the CVS version. http://cvs.gnucash.org/docs/guide/ This is created in DocBook format, and is easily converted to Gnome help format, can be read by Yelp, can be converted to PDF as well as to TXT format. But, perhaps best to wait a bit until F-Spot gets a bit closer to 1.0? Then again, we should be able to come up with wich chapters we should have, and fill in general things, and possible more detailed information as well. The bad thing though, the more detailed the information is, the more often you will have to change since F-Spot is still under heavy development... My small 0.02 cents... /Bengt From stephane@delcroix.org Tue Jun 20 03:24:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28353B0F09 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32166-07 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:23:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6003B0EE3 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:23:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1703 invoked by uid 503); 20 Jun 2006 07:23:55 -0000 Received: from b7.ovh.net (HELO mail156.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.57) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 07:23:55 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 07:15:20 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 07:15:13 -0000 Subject: F-Spot plug-ins From: Stephane Delcroix To: F-Spot list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq" Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:16:03 +0200 Message-Id: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.941 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.523, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -1.941 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:24:02 -0000 --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone, I'm quite proud to give you this patch, adding support for loading plug-ins into F-Spot. I'll submit it to b.g.o. soon. For now, all Plugins in all .dll in $HOME/.gnome2/f-spot/plugins are loaded, but I plan to write another plugin to enable them at will. The patch include Thomas's solution to #344534, so you can compile plug-ins from outside the source tree using: mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot MyPlugin.cs Find also attached below 2 plugins, one displaying a dialog about plugins, and a first Export Plug-in, for sending mail (the export code is just a cut and paste from F-Spot core code). Those 2 plugins compile with: mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 DialogPlugin.cs mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 SendMailPlugin.cs It's a first and very early version, so write a lot of comments about it... rgds, Stephane --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=plugins.patch Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=plugins.patch; charset=ANSI_X3.4-1968 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: Makefile.am =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/Makefile.am,v retrieving revision 1.13 diff -u -p -r1.13 Makefile.am --- Makefile.am 17 Feb 2006 17:02:32 -0000 1.13 +++ Makefile.am 19 Jun 2006 15:54:03 -0000 @@ -17,6 +17,9 @@ desktop_in_files= \ desktop_files=$(desktop_in_files:.desktop.in=.desktop) @INTLTOOL_DESKTOP_RULE@ +pkgconfigdir = $(libdir)/pkgconfig +pkgconfig_DATA = f-spot.pc + Applicationsdir = $(datadir)/applications Applications_DATA = $(desktop_files) @@ -30,6 +33,7 @@ EXTRA_DIST = \ intltool-extract.in \ intltool-merge.in \ intltool-update.in \ + f-spot.pc.in \ f-spot.spec \ $(desktop_in_files) \ $(desktop_files) Index: configure.in =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/configure.in,v retrieving revision 1.102 diff -u -p -r1.102 configure.in --- configure.in 24 May 2006 15:44:42 -0000 1.102 +++ configure.in 19 Jun 2006 15:54:03 -0000 @@ -182,6 +182,7 @@ po/Makefile.in src/Defines.cs src/f-spot.exe.config src/Makefile +f-spot.pc f-spot.spec f-spot.desktop.in ]) Index: src/Global.cs =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/src/Global.cs,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -p -r1.8 Global.cs --- src/Global.cs 22 Mar 2006 19:14:41 -0000 1.8 +++ src/Global.cs 19 Jun 2006 15:54:03 -0000 @@ -18,6 +18,12 @@ namespace FSpot { } } + public static string PluginsDirectory { + get { + return System.IO.Path.Combine (BaseDirectory, "plugins"); + } + } + public static void ModifyColors (Gtk.Widget widget) { try { Index: src/MainWindow.cs =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/src/MainWindow.cs,v retrieving revision 1.298 diff -u -p -r1.298 MainWindow.cs --- src/MainWindow.cs 9 Jun 2006 23:24:57 -0000 1.298 +++ src/MainWindow.cs 19 Jun 2006 15:54:05 -0000 @@ -44,6 +44,7 @@ public class MainWindow { [Glade.Widget] MenuItem rename_version_menu_item; [Glade.Widget] MenuItem export; + [Glade.Widget] MenuItem export_menu_item; [Glade.Widget] MenuItem print; [Glade.Widget] MenuItem send_mail; @@ -107,6 +108,8 @@ public class MainWindow { PhotoVersionMenu versions_submenu; + ExportMenu export_submenu; + Gtk.ToggleButton browse_button; Gtk.ToggleButton edit_button; @@ -376,6 +379,10 @@ public class MainWindow { // When the icon_view is loaded, set it's initial scroll position icon_view.SizeAllocated += HandleIconViewReady; +System.Console.WriteLine("###############################################"); +FSpot.Plugins.Plugger plugger = new FSpot.Plugins.Plugger(); +System.Console.WriteLine("###############################################"); + UpdateToolbar (); } @@ -1463,7 +1470,8 @@ public class MainWindow { "Joshua Tauberer", "Joerg Buesse", "Jakub Steiner", - "Xavier Bouchoux" + "Xavier Bouchoux", + "Stephane Delcroix" }; // Translators should localize the following string @@ -2495,6 +2503,9 @@ public class MainWindow { version_menu_item.Submenu = versions_submenu; } + export_submenu = new ExportMenu (); + export_menu_item.Submenu = export_submenu; + set_as_background.Sensitive = single_active; adjust_color.Sensitive = single_active; adjust_time.Sensitive = active_selection; @@ -2905,4 +2916,12 @@ public class MainWindow { { toolTips.SetTip (widget, tip, null); } + + // + //Hooks for plugin + // + public void HandleExportWithPlugin (FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin ex_plugin) { + ex_plugin.DoExport(new FSpot.PhotoArray (SelectedPhotos ())); + } + } Index: src/Makefile.am =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/src/Makefile.am,v retrieving revision 1.63 diff -u -p -r1.63 Makefile.am --- src/Makefile.am 26 Apr 2006 20:31:07 -0000 1.63 +++ src/Makefile.am 19 Jun 2006 15:54:06 -0000 @@ -25,6 +25,7 @@ F_SPOT_CSDISTFILES = \ $(srcdir)/DirectoryCollection.cs \ $(srcdir)/ExceptionDialog.cs \ $(srcdir)/Exif.cs \ + $(srcdir)/ExportMenu.cs \ $(srcdir)/FlickrExport.cs \ $(srcdir)/FlickrRemote.cs \ $(srcdir)/FileImportBackend.cs \ @@ -79,6 +80,7 @@ F_SPOT_CSDISTFILES = \ $(srcdir)/PixbufUtils.cs \ $(srcdir)/PixbufCache.cs \ $(srcdir)/PixelBuffer.cs \ + $(srcdir)/Plugins.cs \ $(srcdir)/PreferenceDialog.cs \ $(srcdir)/Preferences.cs \ $(srcdir)/PreviewPopup.cs \ Index: src/f-spot.glade =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/src/f-spot.glade,v retrieving revision 1.164 diff -u -p -r1.164 f-spot.glade --- src/f-spot.glade 6 Jun 2006 18:09:47 -0000 1.164 +++ src/f-spot.glade 19 Jun 2006 15:54:20 -0000 @@ -7250,6 +7250,20 @@ Photo Details + + + + True + + + + + + True + Export plugins + True + + @@ -7272,7 +7286,7 @@ Photo Details - + True gnome-stock-mail-fwd 1 @@ -7297,8 +7311,8 @@ Photo Details _Close True - + @@ -7635,7 +7649,7 @@ Photo Details True _Folder True - False + True month --- /dev/null 2006-06-19 09:02:49.376262000 +0200 +++ src/Plugins.cs 2006-06-19 17:38:29.000000000 +0200 @@ -0,0 +1,120 @@ +/* + * Plugins.cs + * + * Authors: + * Stephane Delcroix + * + * Copyright (C) 2006 Stephane Delcroix + * + */ + + +using System; +using System.Reflection; + +using System.Collections; + +using FSpot; + +namespace FSpot.Plugins { + + public class Plugger { + private static System.Collections.Hashtable plugins = new System.Collections.Hashtable(); + + public static string [] PluginsList { + get { + string [] list = new String[plugins.Count]; + plugins.Keys.CopyTo(list,0); + return list; + } + } + + public static string [] LoadedPlugins (System.Type type) { + ArrayList loadedplugins = new ArrayList(); + foreach (string plugin in PluginsList){ + if ( ((Plugin)plugins[plugin]).IsLoaded && (plugins[plugin]).GetType().IsSubclassOf(type)) + loadedplugins.Add(plugin); + } + return (string [])loadedplugins.ToArray(typeof(System.String)); + } + + public static string [] LoadedPlugins() { return LoadedPlugins(typeof(FSpot.Plugins.Plugin)); } + + public static Plugin Plugin(string ShortName) + { + return (Plugin)plugins[ShortName]; + } + + public Plugger () + { + LoadPluginsFromDirectory(FSpot.Global.PluginsDirectory); + InitializePlugins(PluginsList); + } + + public void LoadPluginsFromDirectories (string [] directories) + { + foreach ( String directory in directories ) + LoadPluginsFromDirectory (directory); + } + + private void LoadPluginsFromDirectory (string path) + { + foreach ( String dll in System.IO.Directory.GetFiles(path, "*.dll") ) + LoadPluginsFromFile(dll); + } + + private void LoadPluginsFromFile(string pluginfile) + { + Console.WriteLine ("Loading plugins from {0}...", pluginfile); + Assembly assembly = Assembly.LoadFile(pluginfile); + Type [] ts = assembly.GetTypes(); + foreach (Type t in ts){ + if ( t.IsSubclassOf(typeof(FSpot.Plugins.Plugin)) ){ + Plugin plugin = (Plugin)assembly.CreateInstance(t.ToString()); + Console.WriteLine("{0} available", t); + //FIXME: check if ShortName already exists in plugins[] + plugins [plugin.ShortName] = plugin; + } else + Console.WriteLine("{0} is NOT a Plugin", t); + } + } + + public void InitializePlugins(string [] pluginslist) + { + foreach (String plugin in pluginslist) { + ((Plugin)plugins[plugin]).Load(); + } + } + } + + public abstract class Plugin { + public abstract string DisplayName { get; } + public virtual string ShortName { get { return DisplayName; } } + public abstract string Description { get; } + private bool Loaded = false; + + public bool IsLoaded { + get { return Loaded; } + } + + public Plugin () + { + } + + public void Load () { + PluginInitialize(); + Loaded = true; + } + + protected abstract void PluginInitialize(); + } + + public abstract class ExportPlugin: Plugin { + public abstract string MenuEntryName { get; } + public void HandleMenuItemActivated(object sender, EventArgs args) + { + MainWindow.Toplevel.HandleExportWithPlugin(this); + } + public abstract void DoExport(IBrowsableCollection selectedphotos); + } +} --- /dev/null 2006-06-19 09:02:49.376262000 +0200 +++ src/ExportMenu.cs 2006-06-19 16:30:49.000000000 +0200 @@ -0,0 +1,28 @@ +using Gtk; +using GtkSharp; +using System; + +namespace FSpot { + public class ExportMenu : Menu { + public ExportMenu () + { + string [] exportplugins = FSpot.Plugins.Plugger.LoadedPlugins(typeof(FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin)); + + if ( exportplugins == null || exportplugins.Length == 0 ) { + MenuItem menu_item = new MenuItem ("No Export Plug-in available"); + menu_item.Show(); + menu_item.Sensitive = false; + Append(menu_item); + } + foreach (string shortname in exportplugins) { + FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin plugin = (FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin)FSpot.Plugins.Plugger.Plugin(shortname); + MenuItem menu_item = new MenuItem (plugin.MenuEntryName); + menu_item.Show(); + menu_item.Sensitive = true; + menu_item.Activated += new EventHandler (plugin.HandleMenuItemActivated); + + Append(menu_item); + } + } + } +} --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=DialogPlugin.cs Content-Type: text/x-csharp; name=DialogPlugin.cs; charset=ANSI_X3.4-1968 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit using System; using FSpot; using FSpot.Plugins; namespace FSpot.Plugins { public class DialogPlugin: FSpot.Plugins.Plugin { public override string DisplayName { get { return "Dialog Plugin"; } } public override string ShortName { get { return "DialogPlugin"; } } public override string Description { get { return "Warn the user about using plugins"; } } protected override void PluginInitialize() { Console.WriteLine("Initializing Dialog Plugin"); String header = "Plug-ins enabled version of F-Spot"; String msg = "You are running a plug-ins enabled version of F-Spot" + "\nPlug-ins can crash your F-Spot, delete all your images, and " + "completely destroy your database." + "\nYou have been warned! Don't fill any bug report " + "regarding plug-ins"; HigMessageDialog.RunHigMessageDialog(MainWindow.Toplevel.Window, Gtk.DialogFlags.DestroyWithParent, Gtk.MessageType.Warning, Gtk.ButtonsType.Ok,header,msg); } } } --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=SendMailPlugin.cs Content-Type: text/x-csharp; name=SendMailPlugin.cs; charset=ANSI_X3.4-1968 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit using System; using FSpot; using FSpot.Plugins; namespace FSpot.Plugins { public class SendMailPlugin: FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin { public override string DisplayName { get { return "Send Mail Plugin"; } } public override string ShortName { get { return "SendMailPlugin"; } } public override string Description { get { return "Create an e-mail with your photos attached"; } } public override string MenuEntryName { get { return "Send Mail...";} } protected override void PluginInitialize() { Console.WriteLine("Initializing Send Mail Plugin"); } public override void DoExport (IBrowsableCollection sel_photos) { Photo [] photos = (Photo [])sel_photos.Items; System.Text.StringBuilder url = new System.Text.StringBuilder ("mailto:?subject=my%20photos"); foreach (Photo p in photos) { url.Append ("&attach=" + UriList.EscapeString (p.DefaultVersionUri.LocalPath, true, true, true)); } Gnome.Url.Show (url.ToString ()); Console.WriteLine ("Exporting {0} pictures", sel_photos.Count); } } } --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq-- From nmarais@snowisp.com Tue Jun 20 05:13:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95F73B0097 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:13:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05163-09 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:13:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ctb-mesg7.saix.net (ctb-mesg7.saix.net [196.25.240.77]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80823B0ECC for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:13:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from office.snowballeffect.net (dsl-165-225-212.telkomadsl.co.za [165.165.225.212]) by ctb-mesg7.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD702366F for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:12:36 +0200 (SAST) Received: (qmail 29551 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2006 13:50:59 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.20.130.19?) (10.20.130.19) by 192.168.20.58 with (RC4-MD5 encrypted) SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 13:50:59 +0200 Subject: Big Collections/Complex Meta-data/Is F-Spot (going to be) for me? From: Neilen Marais To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:12:18 +0200 Message-Id: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.533 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.533 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:13:43 -0000 Hi I have a pretty big image database (about 12k photos) with fairly complex meta-data maintained in KPhotoAlbum. I've been eying F-spot for a while, since it has a very active community, looks pretty and seems quite nice to use. I'm quite excited by F-spot's ability to handle picture versions and RAW files. I also prefer GNOME apps all else being equal. KPhotoAlbum is not quite as smooth, but it's interface seems more "scalable" to me, while F-spot tries (and manages very well) to make easy stuff easy. I don't think scalable and easy need to be mutually exclusive though. I'll list some features in KPhotoAlbum that I find makes it very useful for large/complex collections, and why they are useful. Perhaps I can convince the right people that it may be useful to implement something similar (if not identical) in F-Spot. These comments refer to F-Spot 0.1.11, as shipped with Ubuntu Dapper. I'll refer to KPhotoAlbum as KP from here on to save typing. Separate "Namespaces" ===================== F-spot seems to require the last level of a tag to be unique. Besides offending my personal sense of logical aesthetics, it also poses practical problems ;P In KP, each top-level tag is called a Category, and the tags within each Category are completely independent. In my KP database I have a "People" category for people visible in the photo, and a "Photographer" category for the person who took the picture. Of course People can also be Photographers, but usually not at the same time. Also the total number of photographers aren't the same as the total number of people. It's also possible that unrelated tags can coincidentally have the same name. E.g. if you travel all over the world and meet people from all over the world, it's not unlikely that some placename in one country may be the same as someones name in another. In fact, identical placenames are quite common. Places.USA.Alabama.Greenville is not the same as Places.USA.California.Greenville (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cities#Most_common_city_names for more fun.) One can disambiguate by having Greenville_CA, but I already told you it's in California, damnit ;) Actually this is a problem in KP as well, since it's doesn't do any hierarchy within a category. It does have membership groups that does something similar, but that does not solve this problem. Membership Groups ----------------- I think F-Spot's hierarchical tags can fill the same need, but I'll describe them so its clear what I'm talking about. I'll use the Places category as an example. Say the location is "Friendly Bob's House" in Pinelands (the town), Western Cape (the state), South Africa. In KP I can make the location "South Africa" a membership group. Then I can assign all the states in South Africa (that I have in my DB anyway) to this group (e.g. Western Cape, Gauteng, etc.). Then I make Western Cape another membership group, and assign all the cities to it (e.g. Pinelands, Cape Town, etc.). I make Pinelands a membership group, and add "Friendly Bob's house" to it. Now I tag the picture with only "Friendly Bob's house". Because of the membership groups, KP knows the picture also belongs to "Pinelands", "Western Cape" and "South Africa", and will be found by searches on any of those 4 locations. Of course, Locations.South Africa.Western Cape.Pinelands would do just as well. It will also be more explicit (good), and if F-Spot supported it, would be separate from Locations.South Africa.Kwazulu Natal.Pinelands (which also exists!) Default "And" searching ======================= >From reading the list it seems that F-Spot will get more searching options soon, but IMHO if you can have only one choice, "and" would be better than "or". I hope that when the more featureful searching comes, there will be an easy way to make the default "and". Restrict Tags when Searching ============================ This kind of goes together with the default "and" searching. KP's main interface shows you a list of top level tags, along with how many entries each has. e.g. Locations - 10 People - 6 Then you select People -> "Friendly Bob" You can then look at all the pictures containing Bob, or keep selecting search tags. However, all the tags that never occur with Bob are removed, e.g. Locations - 4 People - 3 I.o.w. you see only the Locations that Bob's been photographed at and only the people that have been photographed with Bob. Now select Locations -> "Friendly Bob's House", and look at the pictures of Bob at his house, or continue: Locations (greyed out, since there are no others) People - 2 Then you could choose to look at pictures of Bob with his wife, or Bob with his son. I like this feature for two reasons. 1) If you're and-searching, there's no point in seeing the tags that will result in no pictures being found. 2) Its nice to see, for instance, how many people you have photographed at a certain location. Scalable Tag Selection ====================== It's hard to compare KP directly to F-Spot here, since the interface paradigms are quite different, so I'll just sketch my problem. In KP I have 9 Categories (i.e. top level tags), and some of them have many subtags. E.g. Events - 143 Keywords - 21 Locations - 237 Persons - 203 Photographer - 33 I've only had a camera for about two years, but found I like both photography and detailed tagging. I'm sure these numbers will have grown considerably in 10 years time! I will always have at least one tag from each of the 5 categories I listed here attached to every picture, so it is critical that tags can be selected from a large selection easily. KP makes the default way of finding a tag incremental search, and also sorts tags in order of last use by default. It also manages each category completely separately which means the 100's of "Persons" tags don't make it hard to pick a tag from the "Keywords" category. While I haven't dealt with that many tags in F-Spot, my feeling is the tag toolbar/tree on the left of F-Spot will be fairly well suited to dealing with many tags. Other places, where there are flat lists with all tag hierarchies exploded, will probably be unpleasant to use. What I'd need to switch ======================= Like you care ;P Anyway, my needs in order of priority are 1) "Fully qualified" tag uniqueness (i.e. People.A != Places.A) 2) "And" searching 3) Tag Restrictions while and-searching 4) Improved UI for selecting from large numbers of tags 1) is completely critical, since I can't losslesly move my current data into F-Spot without it. 2) is pretty important. 3) and 4) would be nice to have, but not that important. If other people think it's a good idea, should I make feature requests on the F-spot bugzilla, or how should I go ahead? Thanks for listening Neilen -- you know its kind of tragic we live in the new world but we've lost the magic -- Battery 9 (www.battery9.co.za) From stephane@delcroix.org Tue Jun 20 05:38:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3E33B0329 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:38:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06374-04 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:38:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B85A3B02FA for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:38:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28829 invoked by uid 503); 20 Jun 2006 09:38:57 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail56.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 09:38:57 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 09:37:27 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 09:37:25 -0000 Subject: Re: F-Spot plug-ins From: Stephane Delcroix To: F-Spot list In-Reply-To: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> References: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:37:26 +0200 Message-Id: <1150796247.5909.31.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.152 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.246, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558] X-Spam-Score: -1.152 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:38:37 -0000 the bug in b.g.o.: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345395 On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 09:16 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm quite proud to give you this patch, adding support for loading > plug-ins into F-Spot. I'll submit it to b.g.o. soon. > > For now, all Plugins in all .dll in $HOME/.gnome2/f-spot/plugins are > loaded, but I plan to write another plugin to enable them at will. > > The patch include Thomas's solution to #344534, so you can compile > plug-ins from outside the source tree using: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot MyPlugin.cs > > Find also attached below 2 plugins, one displaying a dialog about > plugins, and a first Export Plug-in, for sending mail (the export code > is just a cut and paste from F-Spot core code). > > Those 2 plugins compile with: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 DialogPlugin.cs > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 SendMailPlugin.cs > > It's a first and very early version, so write a lot of comments about > it... > > rgds, > > Stephane > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list -- Stephane Delcroix stephane@delcroix.org From bengt@thuree.com Tue Jun 20 06:31:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18373B00FE for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 06:31:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08584-07 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 06:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.196]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BEB33B0248 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 06:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5KAUR3H011245; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:30:33 +1000 Subject: Re: F-Spot plug-ins From: Bengt Thuree To: Stephane Delcroix In-Reply-To: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> References: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:30:26 +1000 Message-Id: <1150799426.5458.0.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.531 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.531 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:31:48 -0000 On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 09:16 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm quite proud to give you this patch, adding support for loading > plug-ins into F-Spot. I'll submit it to b.g.o. soon. > > For now, all Plugins in all .dll in $HOME/.gnome2/f-spot/plugins are > loaded, but I plan to write another plugin to enable them at will. > > The patch include Thomas's solution to #344534, so you can compile > plug-ins from outside the source tree using: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot MyPlugin.cs > > Find also attached below 2 plugins, one displaying a dialog about > plugins, and a first Export Plug-in, for sending mail (the export code > is just a cut and paste from F-Spot core code). > > Those 2 plugins compile with: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 DialogPlugin.cs > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 SendMailPlugin.cs > > It's a first and very early version, so write a lot of comments about > it... > hier > rgds, > > Stephane Congratulations :) Looks good to me, not the best on plugins though. Would it be easy to add plugins for any part of F-Spot, or only for Export? /Bengt From stephane@delcroix.org Tue Jun 20 07:50:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556F33B078A for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:50:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12349-08 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1703B044D for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:49:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5534 invoked by uid 503); 20 Jun 2006 11:50:17 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail15.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 11:50:16 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 11:48:38 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 11:48:34 -0000 Subject: Re: Big Collections/Complex Meta-data/Is F-Spot (going to be) for me? From: Stephane Delcroix To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:48:43 +0200 Message-Id: <1150804124.5909.60.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.139 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.233, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558] X-Spam-Score: -1.139 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:50:00 -0000 Hi, Some of your needs are already work in progress. Check http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338558 for fully-qualified tag uniqueness, it's a strong request but solving it will require re-coding the 'Tag Typing'. Check http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139796 for advanced queries. It's one of the oldest bug request / patch in f-spot. You can CC your email address to follow the discussion about them. I like the idea of displaying more info about the selection (items per tag, ...). You can probably submit a enhancement request in bugzilla and attach a mockup of the UI. As always in F-Spot, the problem is not writing code to solve an issue, it's about writing good code and give the user a nice experience. Thanks for your report, Stephane On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 11:12 +0200, Neilen Marais wrote: > Hi > > I have a pretty big image database (about 12k photos) with fairly > complex meta-data maintained in KPhotoAlbum. I've been eying F-spot for > a while, since it has a very active community, looks pretty and seems > quite nice to use. I'm quite excited by F-spot's ability to handle > picture versions and RAW files. I also prefer GNOME apps all else being > equal. > > KPhotoAlbum is not quite as smooth, but it's interface seems more > "scalable" to me, while F-spot tries (and manages very well) to make > easy stuff easy. I don't think scalable and easy need to be mutually > exclusive though. > > I'll list some features in KPhotoAlbum that I find makes it very useful > for large/complex collections, and why they are useful. Perhaps I can > convince the right people that it may be useful to implement something > similar (if not identical) in F-Spot. > > These comments refer to F-Spot 0.1.11, as shipped with Ubuntu Dapper. > I'll refer to KPhotoAlbum as KP from here on to save typing. > > Separate "Namespaces" > ===================== > > F-spot seems to require the last level of a tag to be unique. Besides > offending my personal sense of logical aesthetics, it also poses > practical problems ;P > > In KP, each top-level tag is called a Category, and the tags within each > Category are completely independent. In my KP database I have a "People" > category for people visible in the photo, and a "Photographer" category > for the person who took the picture. Of course People can also be > Photographers, but usually not at the same time. Also the total number > of photographers aren't the same as the total number of people. > > It's also possible that unrelated tags can coincidentally have the same > name. E.g. if you travel all over the world and meet people from all > over the world, it's not unlikely that some placename in one country may > be the same as someones name in another. > > In fact, identical placenames are quite common. > Places.USA.Alabama.Greenville is not the same as > Places.USA.California.Greenville (see > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cities#Most_common_city_names for > more fun.) One can disambiguate by having Greenville_CA, but I already > told you it's in California, damnit ;) > > Actually this is a problem in KP as well, since it's doesn't do any > hierarchy within a category. It does have membership groups that does > something similar, but that does not solve this problem. > > Membership Groups > ----------------- > > I think F-Spot's hierarchical tags can fill the same need, but I'll > describe them so its clear what I'm talking about. > > I'll use the Places category as an example. Say the location is > "Friendly Bob's House" in Pinelands (the town), Western Cape (the > state), South Africa. In KP I can make the location "South Africa" a > membership group. Then I can assign all the states in South Africa (that > I have in my DB anyway) to this group (e.g. Western Cape, Gauteng, > etc.). Then I make Western Cape another membership group, and assign all > the cities to it (e.g. Pinelands, Cape Town, etc.). I make Pinelands a > membership group, and add "Friendly Bob's house" to it. > > Now I tag the picture with only "Friendly Bob's house". Because of the > membership groups, KP knows the picture also belongs to "Pinelands", > "Western Cape" and "South Africa", and will be found by searches on any > of those 4 locations. > > Of course, Locations.South Africa.Western Cape.Pinelands would do just > as well. It will also be more explicit (good), and if F-Spot supported > it, would be separate from Locations.South Africa.Kwazulu > Natal.Pinelands (which also exists!) > > Default "And" searching > ======================= > > >From reading the list it seems that F-Spot will get more searching > options soon, but IMHO if you can have only one choice, "and" would be > better than "or". I hope that when the more featureful searching comes, > there will be an easy way to make the default "and". > > Restrict Tags when Searching > ============================ > > This kind of goes together with the default "and" searching. KP's main > interface shows you a list of top level tags, along with how many > entries each has. e.g. > > Locations - 10 > People - 6 > > Then you select People -> "Friendly Bob" > > You can then look at all the pictures containing Bob, or keep selecting > search tags. However, all the tags that never occur with Bob are > removed, e.g. > > Locations - 4 > People - 3 > > I.o.w. you see only the Locations that Bob's been photographed at and > only the people that have been photographed with Bob. > > Now select Locations -> "Friendly Bob's House", > > and look at the pictures of Bob at his house, or continue: > > Locations (greyed out, since there are no others) > People - 2 > > Then you could choose to look at pictures of Bob with his wife, or Bob > with his son. > > I like this feature for two reasons. > > 1) If you're and-searching, there's no point in seeing the tags that > will result in no pictures being found. > 2) Its nice to see, for instance, how many people you have photographed > at a certain location. > > Scalable Tag Selection > ====================== > > It's hard to compare KP directly to F-Spot here, since the > interface paradigms are quite different, so I'll just sketch my problem. > In KP I have 9 Categories (i.e. top level tags), and some of them have > many subtags. E.g. > > Events - 143 > Keywords - 21 > Locations - 237 > Persons - 203 > Photographer - 33 > > I've only had a camera for about two years, but found I like both > photography and detailed tagging. I'm sure these numbers will have grown > considerably in 10 years time! > > I will always have at least one tag from each of the 5 categories I > listed here attached to every picture, so it is critical that tags can > be selected from a large selection easily. KP makes the default way of > finding a tag incremental search, and also sorts tags in order of last > use by default. It also manages each category completely separately > which means the 100's of "Persons" tags don't make it hard to pick a tag > from the "Keywords" category. > > While I haven't dealt with that many tags in F-Spot, my feeling is the > tag toolbar/tree on the left of F-Spot will be fairly well suited to > dealing with many tags. Other places, where there are flat lists with > all tag hierarchies exploded, will probably be unpleasant to use. > > What I'd need to switch > ======================= > > Like you care ;P Anyway, my needs in order of priority are > > 1) "Fully qualified" tag uniqueness (i.e. People.A != Places.A) > 2) "And" searching > 3) Tag Restrictions while and-searching > 4) Improved UI for selecting from large numbers of tags > > 1) is completely critical, since I can't losslesly move my current data > into F-Spot without it. > 2) is pretty important. > > 3) and 4) would be nice to have, but not that important. > > If other people think it's a good idea, should I make feature requests > on the F-spot bugzilla, or how should I go ahead? > > Thanks for listening > Neilen > -- Stephane Delcroix stephane@delcroix.org From bengt@thuree.com Tue Jun 20 08:47:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885573B0458 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15956-03 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:47:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.196]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E5F3B0452 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:47:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5KCkoxJ024455; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:46:51 +1000 Subject: Re: IPTC Tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606190501r3cfac1fbp86b66427944c2f81@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> <1150580384.6150.28.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606190501r3cfac1fbp86b66427944c2f81@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:46:50 +1000 Message-Id: <1150807610.5458.5.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.533 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.067, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.533 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:47:59 -0000 Hi I tested it a bit, and F-Spot do read (in MetaData browser) the Keyword field. But none of the others (as I read somewhere on the web, they are not following the standard IPTC standard.) Hopefully, you can still base your patch on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 and get it to work with IPTC files. Check IptcFile.cs also. Good luck. /Bengt From lewing@novell.com Wed Jun 21 10:46:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D453B1035 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13755-02 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:45:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0983B0FD5 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:45:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3202 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2006 14:45:50 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.6.126?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jun 2006 14:45:50 -0000 Subject: Re: Importing photos with tags From: Larry Ewing To: Bengt Thuree In-Reply-To: <1150533952.6150.8.camel@workie.thuree.com> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> <1150533952.6150.8.camel@workie.thuree.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:53:56 -0500 Message-Id: <1150901636.8583.2.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:46:00 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-17 at 18:45 +1000, Bengt Thuree wrote: > > > > Thanks, I'll look into that. I'm really a novice, what I can do is > > extract the IPTC data that the tags are currently in with PHP and then > > produce a text file (be it XML or SQL) to work with. > > > > Dotan Cohen > > > > http://what-is-what.com > > > > Actually, have a look at the JPG file first. > If the tags are stored in IPTC as well as in XMP format, you should be > able to use the patch I wrote to let F-Spot read XMP data. > IViewMedia Pro, were only supposed to store in IPTC as far as I > understood, but they also stored the tags in XMP format. > > Also, I think that F-Spot has prepared to deal with IPTC tags as well. > Have a look and see in IptcFile.cs, and see if you can create a new > patch based on the XMP importer? > > Anyway, gthumb stores its tags in an xml file per photo, so you can take > a look at that patch. > All the metadata formats that f-spot parses it also can convert to XMP, that is how the extended metadata section in the metadata dialog is created. The code could use some polish but it should make normalizing the import code fairly simple. As a side note, it would be good if the gthumb parsing code could convert to XMP as well. --Larry From lewing@novell.com Wed Jun 21 10:51:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B772A3B0FA3 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14185-06 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43713B0EB3 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:51:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3228 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2006 14:51:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.6.126?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jun 2006 14:51:21 -0000 Subject: Re: plugin support for F-Spot From: Larry Ewing To: Stephane Delcroix In-Reply-To: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> References: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:59:31 -0500 Message-Id: <1150901971.8583.8.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.465 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.066, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.465 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:51:28 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 16:20 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Hi list, > > I've spend some time lately to develop a plugin facility for F-Spot. So > far, I've a virtual plugin class, some methods to load plugins, and a > testplugin. Thanks to Thomas and his solution to bug #344534, I've also > a way to compile plugins without the F-Spot sources. > > The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as > many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to > my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my > guess), but some people need this. > Sounds great. Import, export, editing, file format, metadata and sychronization are all possible plug-in entry points. The ImageFile code is meant to be trivially converted into a plugable system. The main issue with export as a plug in is dealing with the ui a sane way that avoids the gimp giant menu trap but also isn't too limiting on what sort of UI the plug-in can present to the user. I've given it a fair amount of thought, I'll try to write down what I've come up with in the next couple of days as i prepare for guadec. --Larry From bengt@thuree.com Wed Jun 21 18:22:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17AD3B00E4 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09445-06 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:22:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DEC3B03ED for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:21:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5LMLnqs031828; Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:21:50 +1000 Subject: Re: Importing photos with tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Larry Ewing In-Reply-To: <1150901636.8583.2.camel@blue.site> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> <1150533952.6150.8.camel@workie.thuree.com> <1150901636.8583.2.camel@blue.site> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:21:49 +1000 Message-Id: <1150928510.5385.9.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.534 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.066, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.534 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 22:22:17 -0000 On Wed, 2006-06-21 at 09:53 -0500, Larry Ewing wrote: > All the metadata formats that f-spot parses it also can convert to XMP, > that is how the extended metadata section in the metadata dialog is > created. The code could use some polish but it should make normalizing > the import code fairly simple. As a side note, it would be good if the > gthumb parsing code could convert to XMP as well. Convert to XMP? The gthumb as well as XMP parsing code, simply finds the tags, and then creates them the normal way with including storing them embedded inside the photo. Or did I miss something? > needs_commit |= gthumb.Import (photo, orig_path); > if (needs_commit) > store.Commit (photo); > /Bengt From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 23 13:39:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69EF3B04C1 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:39:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28028-07 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:39:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0C13B0813 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:39:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1216488uge for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.151.3 with SMTP id y3mr1393310hud; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606231039s39eadf04h3ab13415f0e8d48e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:39:24 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Accessing tags with PHP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.21 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.390, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.21 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:39:28 -0000 I have set up f-spot to store the tags in the picture files themselves. How can I access these tags with PHP? I do know how to access IPTC tags with PHP but not the tags that f-spot uses. A simple working code example would be very, very much appreciated. Also, are the tags UTF-8? If not, what charset are they? This is the code that I use to access IPTC: "; print "People: ".$iptc["2#118"][0]."
"; print "Place: ".$iptc["2#027"][0]."
"; print "Event: ".$iptc["2#105"][0]."
"; print "Date: ".$iptc["2#055"][0]."
"; print "Time: ".$iptc["2#060"][0]."
"; ?> Note that the IPTC tags used here are not to standard, they are as per the excellent windows software BrilliantPhoto. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com From ruben@Lambda1.be Fri Jun 23 17:13:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280F73B06F5 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:13:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05460-02 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:13:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oola.is.scarlet.be (oola.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.23]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EE93B0847 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:13:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ([62.235.141.211]) by oola.is.scarlet.be with ESMTP id k5NLDoA04650; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:13:50 +0200 Received: by localhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C1005460466; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:13:49 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Accessing tags with PHP From: Ruben Vermeersch To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606231039s39eadf04h3ab13415f0e8d48e@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606231039s39eadf04h3ab13415f0e8d48e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:13:47 +0200 Message-Id: <1151097227.14599.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: oola 2020; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.59 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.59 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 21:13:56 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 20:39 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I have set up f-spot to store the tags in the picture files > themselves. How can I access these tags with PHP? I do know how to > access IPTC tags with PHP but not the tags that f-spot uses. A simple > working code example would be very, very much appreciated. > > Also, are the tags UTF-8? If not, what charset are they? > > This is the code that I use to access IPTC: > $size = GetImageSize ("/path/to/pic.jpg", &$info); > $iptc = iptcparse($info["APP13"]); > > print "Keywords: ".$iptc["2#025"][0]."
"; > print "People: ".$iptc["2#118"][0]."
"; > print "Place: ".$iptc["2#027"][0]."
"; > print "Event: ".$iptc["2#105"][0]."
"; > print "Date: ".$iptc["2#055"][0]."
"; > print "Time: ".$iptc["2#060"][0]."
"; > ?> > > Note that the IPTC tags used here are not to standard, they are as per > the excellent windows software BrilliantPhoto. As far as I know, f-spot stores tags in XMP metadata, so you'll have to extract it from XMP, not IPTC (but I could be wrong). Kind regards, Ruben Vermeersch -- Ruben Vermeersch (rubenv) http://www.Lambda1.be/ From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 23 18:04:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C69C3B0927 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:04:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07514-05 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:04:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1AC3B0905 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:04:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so59320uge for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.178.5 with SMTP id a5mr1448914huf; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606231504n399728ddh4fd14ca2404c998@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 01:04:07 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: "Ruben Vermeersch" Subject: Re: Accessing tags with PHP In-Reply-To: <1151097227.14599.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <880dece00606231039s39eadf04h3ab13415f0e8d48e@mail.gmail.com> <1151097227.14599.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.288 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.312, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.288 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:04:10 -0000 On 24/06/06, Ruben Vermeersch wrote: > On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 20:39 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I have set up f-spot to store the tags in the picture files > > themselves. How can I access these tags with PHP? I do know how to > > access IPTC tags with PHP but not the tags that f-spot uses. A simple > > working code example would be very, very much appreciated. > > > > Also, are the tags UTF-8? If not, what charset are they? > > > > This is the code that I use to access IPTC: > > > $size = GetImageSize ("/path/to/pic.jpg", &$info); > > $iptc = iptcparse($info["APP13"]); > > > > print "Keywords: ".$iptc["2#025"][0]."
"; > > print "People: ".$iptc["2#118"][0]."
"; > > print "Place: ".$iptc["2#027"][0]."
"; > > print "Event: ".$iptc["2#105"][0]."
"; > > print "Date: ".$iptc["2#055"][0]."
"; > > print "Time: ".$iptc["2#060"][0]."
"; > > ?> > > > > Note that the IPTC tags used here are not to standard, they are as per > > the excellent windows software BrilliantPhoto. > > As far as I know, f-spot stores tags in XMP metadata, so you'll have to > extract it from XMP, not IPTC (but I could be wrong). > > Kind regards, > Ruben Vermeersch > Thanks, that was clear to me. I have since found this: http://www.ozhiker.com/electronics/pjmt/library/list_contents.php4?show_fn=XMP.php But I have yet to put together working code. I'll play with ti a bit this week, but if anybody has a wheel that I don't need to reinvent, I'd appreciate seeing it. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://gmail-com.com From mailmarkh@googlemail.com Sat Jun 24 06:07:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 586A73B0146 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:07:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05863-08 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.199]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183BD3B01DC for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id t5so236733wxc for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 03:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.38.3 with SMTP id l3mr6022830wxl; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 03:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.59.10 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 03:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:07:39 +0100 From: "Mark Howard" Sender: mailmarkh@googlemail.com To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Import from disk and auto-tag MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 343ccbe359cdc39a X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:07:41 -0000 Hi, I have a large collection of photos organised on disk by directory structure. I would like f-spot to import these and automatically tag each photo based on the directory that it's in. There doesn't seem to be any gui tool for this (without specifying each directory and tag separately, which is not an option for such a large collection). Is there any other way to do this? Perhaps some (hidden) way of specifying a tag when using f-spot --import , so that I could write a simple script to do it? Many thanks in advance for any comments. Sorry if this has been asked before - I couldn't find anything through google and the mailing list search is currently broken. Mark Howard From bengt@thuree.com Sat Jun 24 06:56:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8B73B00D4 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:56:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08180-08 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:56:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C393B013A for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:56:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5OAuI9Z014916; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:56:19 +1000 Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag From: Bengt Thuree To: Mark Howard In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:56:19 +1000 Message-Id: <1151146579.13629.3.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.535 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.535 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:56:24 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 11:07 +0100, Mark Howard wrote: > Hi, > > I have a large collection of photos organised on disk by directory > structure. I would like f-spot to import these and automatically tag > each photo based on the directory that it's in. There doesn't seem to > be any gui tool for this (without specifying each directory and tag > separately, which is not an option for such a large collection). Is > there any other way to do this? Perhaps some (hidden) way of > specifying a tag when using f-spot --import , so that I could > write a simple script to do it? > > Many thanks in advance for any comments. Sorry if this has been asked > before - I couldn't find anything through google and the mailing list > search is currently broken. Sorry, but currently F-Spot do not support this. Please see bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344426 in bugzilla for a similar enhancement request. /Bengt From andreas.henden@vice-chairman.net Sat Jun 24 10:40:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3EF23B06FA for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:40:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19727-03 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gordons.ginandtonic.no (gordons.ginandtonic.no [195.159.29.69]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA973B0490 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host-81-191-129-68.bluecom.no ([81.191.129.68] helo=skrue.andeby) by gordons.ginandtonic.no with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1Fu9Io-0002Gv-71 for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:40:02 +0200 Subject: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg From: Andreas Henden To: f-spot-list Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:39:32 +0200 Message-Id: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.72 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.744, BAYES_05=-1.11, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -1.72 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:40:09 -0000 Hi I want sometimes to convert some of my cr2 files into jpg for sending by mail or something like that. I have used gimp but I can't seem to get so nice colors with gimp that is the default setting in f-spot. So I'm asking for two things. Will there be any function for converting from cr2 too jpg and or is there any way to get the same result with any command line tool or any other tool with not too much effort! -- Andreas Henden From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Sat Jun 24 10:44:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8283B07F1 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19693-10 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:44:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.195]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE393B0490 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:44:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i1so1389294nzh for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.148.4 with SMTP id v4mr1106859qbd; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f14sm166591qba.2006.06.24.07.44.05; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 07:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:44:10 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.461 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.138, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_XM=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.461 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:44:08 -0000 Mark Howard wrote: > Hi, > > I have a large collection of photos organised on disk by directory > structure. I would like f-spot to import these and automatically tag > each photo based on the directory that it's in. There doesn't seem to > be any gui tool for this (without specifying each directory and tag > separately, which is not an option for such a large collection). Is > there any other way to do this? Perhaps some (hidden) way of > specifying a tag when using f-spot --import , so that I could > write a simple script to do it? There's no mechanism to do this automatically - however, there are some patches for bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 that will make this relatively easy --- the patch I submitted against the bug will take simple xmp-like "sidecar" files at import and create tags for them. Basically you need to write a script that creates for every file foo.jpg, a file called foo.jpg.xmp - the contents should look like this: Tag 1 Tag 2 ... Tag N Then with my patch, when you do the import, the tags will be created (if necessary), and attached to each photo appropriately. Hope this helps. Warren From brian@brianpuccio.net Sat Jun 24 11:28:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDFF3B03C2 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:28:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22438-02 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:28:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server1.digitalrhapsody.com (server1.digitalrhapsody.com [204.15.133.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E3F3B08B4 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.13] (ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net [69.122.156.56]) by server1.digitalrhapsody.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1109BB7E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) In-Reply-To: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-2-1057010543" Message-Id: <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Brian Puccio Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:28:22 -0400 To: f-spot-list X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:28:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --Apple-Mail-2-1057010543 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Jun 24, 2006, at 10:39 AM, Andreas Henden wrote: > > I want sometimes to convert some of my cr2 files into jpg for > sending by > mail or something like that. I have used gimp but I can't seem to > get so > nice colors with gimp that is the default setting in f-spot. So I'm > asking for two things. Will there be any function for converting from > cr2 too jpg and or is there any way to get the same result with any > command line tool or any other tool with not too much effort! Look into tools like ufraw (it has a batch commandline mode) and dcraw (upon which ufraw is based) --Apple-Mail-2-1057010543 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQFEnVoW/FtTOrvSQB8RAnG9AJ0Wb432u5t30Lix+zC/slAr2o0TiQCfdN08 IHM6Bae6FzdD4L8k1WAliYc= =ztTX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-2-1057010543-- From andreas.henden@vice-chairman.net Sat Jun 24 12:37:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F973B01DC for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:37:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25834-01 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gordons.ginandtonic.no (gordons.ginandtonic.no [195.159.29.69]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC79B3B017E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host-81-191-129-68.bluecom.no ([81.191.129.68] helo=skrue.andeby) by gordons.ginandtonic.no with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1FuB8K-0002fs-9T; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:37:20 +0200 Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg From: Andreas Henden To: Brian Puccio In-Reply-To: <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:36:51 +0200 Message-Id: <1151167012.6113.12.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.417 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.047, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.417 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:37:45 -0000 the thing is that the default colors in f-spot is much nicer than with ufraw. On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 11:28 -0400, Brian Puccio wrote: > On Jun 24, 2006, at 10:39 AM, Andreas Henden wrote: > > > > I want sometimes to convert some of my cr2 files into jpg for > > sending by > > mail or something like that. I have used gimp but I can't seem to > > get so > > nice colors with gimp that is the default setting in f-spot. So I'm > > asking for two things. Will there be any function for converting from > > cr2 too jpg and or is there any way to get the same result with any > > command line tool or any other tool with not too much effort! > > Look into tools like ufraw (it has a batch commandline mode) and > dcraw (upon which ufraw is based) > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list -- Andreas Henden From gcgaf-f-spot-list@m.gmane.org Sat Jun 24 12:47:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982883B01DC for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:47:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26123-03 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9BA3B006E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FuBH9-0003mU-Px for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:27 +0200 Received: from p54b382b3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.179.130.179]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:27 +0200 Received: from cs_teawbdifws_001 by p54b382b3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:27 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Carsten Schurig Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:33 +0200 Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> <1151167012.6113.12.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54b382b3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060111) In-Reply-To: <1151167012.6113.12.camel@skrue.andeby> Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.216 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.094, BAYES_00=-2.599, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS=0.291, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.216 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:47:06 -0000 Andreas Henden schrieb: > the thing is that the default colors in f-spot is much nicer than with > ufraw. That's more an issue with the settings you choose in ufraw. I think f-spot just displays the embedded preview of the CR2 which was created by the cam. If you'd choose the same parameters in ufraw as the cam used, the results should be almost identical (but for the internal sharpening, which ufraw doesn't do). But I aggree it would be nice to have RAW->JPEG conversion better integrated into f-spot. I'd esp. like to have the resulting JPEG/PNG/whatever as a version of the RAW. Currently I add the resulting JPEG to f-spot and get an extra file this way... (But I'd still like to use an external tool as I think about purchasing bibble.) Just my 2¢, Carsten -- God's Final Message to His Creation: "We apologize for the inconvenience." (Douglas Adams: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish) From andreas.henden@vice-chairman.net Sat Jun 24 12:53:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDA23B01BE for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:53:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26384-06 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gordons.ginandtonic.no (gordons.ginandtonic.no [195.159.29.69]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB4F3B017E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host-81-191-129-68.bluecom.no ([81.191.129.68] helo=skrue.andeby) by gordons.ginandtonic.no with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1FuBNe-0002j2-0L for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:53:10 +0200 Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg From: Andreas Henden To: f-spot-list In-Reply-To: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:52:41 +0200 Message-Id: <1151167961.6113.14.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.433 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.031, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.433 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:53:49 -0000 hmm, why did I write saveing. It is of course saving.... On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 16:39 +0200, Andreas Henden wrote: > Hi > > I want sometimes to convert some of my cr2 files into jpg for sending by > mail or something like that. I have used gimp but I can't seem to get so > nice colors with gimp that is the default setting in f-spot. So I'm > asking for two things. Will there be any function for converting from > cr2 too jpg and or is there any way to get the same result with any > command line tool or any other tool with not too much effort! > > -- Andreas Henden From drberg1000@gmail.com Thu Jun 1 16:52:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958A93B0F4A for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:52:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06048-01 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:52:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hu-out-0102.google.com (hu-out-0102.google.com [72.14.214.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3787B3B0ED4 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:52:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by hu-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 34so247599hud for ; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=NEGjo8B1W4NOeZWtu5DW/YakZNml0x/lbol/wmYlvQRwF8F/Pnn7fOGI1ReFkcUpUx/N7cv6Gzz1em5R8EZDrVmlxaAxMKgjCqNHKLTQCUOKO6YFgYWoMcwjqhLliGkH/D6IBiA3/woQRJsvNrBZoEAJdXFx3ARxQyXhMVSp014= Received: by 10.35.76.9 with SMTP id d9mr1612366pyl; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.86.11 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:52:45 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Rotation descriptions X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 20:52:48 -0000 I'm wondering why "Rotate Left" and "Rotate Right" were chosen to describe the commands instead of "Rotate Clockwise" and "Rotate Counterclockwise". The best I can guess is length of the words. If thats the case, here's a little antecdotal feed back on usability. It wasn't until I was half through writing this e-mail that I noticed the small little icons noted which direction the image would be rotated. I am having a difficult time remembering if it is the top of the photo or the bottom of the photo that moves. Personally, I think it would be clearer if a larger arrow and/or Clockwise/Counterclockwise were used. Just my $0.02 --Dave From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Thu Jun 1 18:53:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64483B0061 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:53:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11537-10 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:53:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E693B0072 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:53:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so283419uge for ; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=h05J7wusko7OClEUYg5fXPI0GaXbUNidt/pmzwguU8WHvw+Dm2D0/dTlJXp1XeHpqS8v0I1HiLEafebe2XUTZDctNPvMdpNR8UCHizTUIZd0GNeu8nLqLPegyiUjyRf4on8+C8n/DfyFj92omS7JeF3wwlzRwdpnQVBC9Agax6E= Received: by 10.67.105.19 with SMTP id h19mr207408ugm; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606011553t6fe9beccpa31aea24fab46df9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 02:53:32 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.056 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.056 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Rotation descriptions X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 22:53:37 -0000 On 6/2/06, David Berg wrote: > I'm wondering why "Rotate Left" and "Rotate Right" were chosen to > describe the commands instead of "Rotate Clockwise" and "Rotate > Counterclockwise". The best I can guess is length of the words. If > thats the case, here's a little antecdotal feed back on usability. > > It wasn't until I was half through writing this e-mail that I noticed > the small little icons noted which direction the image would be > rotated. I am having a difficult time remembering if it is the top of > the photo or the bottom of the photo that moves. Personally, I think > it would be clearer if a larger arrow and/or > Clockwise/Counterclockwise were used. Indeed. They are usually cut to Rotate CW and Rotate CCW. And we can still provide hints for menu items to explain what CW/CCW mean for those who doesn't know. Alexandre From stephane@delcroix.org Fri Jun 2 10:07:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24413B1144 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:07:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30984-09 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:07:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 26.mail-out.ovh.net (26.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.42.179]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEAA43B10B6 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:06:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12848 invoked by uid 503); 2 Jun 2006 14:06:59 -0000 Received: (QMFILT: 1.0); 02 Jun 2006 14:06:59 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail44.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 26.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2006 14:06:59 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2006 14:06:50 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2006 14:06:48 -0000 From: Stephane Delcroix To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:08:21 +0200 Message-Id: <1149257301.7904.10.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.951 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.513, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -1.951 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Bug 318376 =?utf-8?b?4oCT?= JPEG saving ignores original quality X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:07:09 -0000 Do not choose default for the user anymore... just try to guess the original compression factor ! I've submitted a patch, based on jpegdump, adding that ability to f-spot. the bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318376 the comment: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318376#c9 the patch: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=66658&action=view Regards, Stephane From drberg1000@gmail.com Fri Jun 2 16:07:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3953B02BE for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:07:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21051-09 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9213B0491 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id x31so1203953pye for ; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:07:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Dd1NExlSLCwENNgvGHiBKyq4GBjy1u9EDTVzZGfr8dRyg0Tfy+CDWxtNTc0+Rce2OCGeqeBhzjtgGYCuSi8LGN9IHypVYY0vEVKspoOxfbn3vIdUixBNiuS36NZcu+jSwtWDdi5ECcmKxlPqQaE/kndLzA2yCnU/IOuS99mGeMs= Received: by 10.35.49.4 with SMTP id b4mr2824500pyk; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.86.11 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 13:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 15:07:51 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.543 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.432, BAYES_05=-1.11, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.543 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 20:07:57 -0000 Is there a way to find photos containing "Tag X" AND "Tag Y" instead of the default OR search? It would be really nice to be able to write more complex queries. --Dave From fred@uh.cu Fri Jun 2 17:06:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0933B006F for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:06:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24674-04 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:06:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from proxy2.uh.cu (proxy2.uh.cu [200.55.139.213]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5123B042A for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:06:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy2.uh.cu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4D12FCEB for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:03:26 -0400 (AST) Received: from comuh.uh.cu (comuh.uh.cu [10.6.100.69]) by proxy2.uh.cu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C192FCE5 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:03:26 -0400 (AST) Received: from comuh (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by comuh.uh.cu (Postfix) with SMTP id 50CBB1680DE for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:58:37 -0400 (CDT) Received: from hogwarts.reduh.uh.cu (hogwarts.reduh.uh.cu [10.6.70.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EXP1024-RC4-SHA (56/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by comuh.uh.cu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337D91680D5 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:58:37 -0400 (CDT) From: Yoanis Gil Delgado Organization: Universidad de la Habana Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:05:48 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary-00=_wgKgEOjcTDYK+xh" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020300 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.923 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.676, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_10_20=1.351, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.923 X-Spam-Level: Subject: My first experiences with f-spot X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 21:06:50 -0000 --Boundary-00=_wgKgEOjcTDYK+xh Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi list!!! . My name is Yoanis Gil Delgado and I'm studying Computers Science at the University of Havana. I want to thanks all of you for this great software. I spent some time classifying my pictures and these are some stuffs i missed: 1-) Multiple picture selection. See 4) 2-) Undo actions. Note i mean "action" and not a "picture editing action". A very common mistake(for me) is to attach the wrong tag to a picture. I though Ctrl+Z would solve the problem, but it did not worked. 3-) Which tags are associated to a file. I know that in browse mode every image has an overlay set of related tags. But, let says the image "Rose, Joe and Mary.jpg" belongs to 3 categories (Joe,Rose and Mary). Each of these categories are child of the People's category (yes, those are people names). In this example the overlay shows the same icons for the 3 categories(People's tag icon). So there is no way to know the categories names the image belongs at the very first look. Still would like to see, when in browse mode, the categories name in some place. 4-) Tags shorcuts. Use case: Lets say i have 4 main tags 1-) Rose 2-) Joe 3-) Mary 4-) Me and a collection of 100 photos of them. Among those i can find photos from Rose and Joe, Mary and Rose, Joe and Me and so on. In the version i'm using(0.1.11), i needed to make a lot of clicks to classify them. It would be nice if there is a way to assign a shortcut to every tag, so when i can tag images by making clicks. P.D: Sorry for the big talk and i hope i can put some code soon. --Boundary-00=_wgKgEOjcTDYK+xh Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi list!!! . My name is Yoanis Gil Delgado and I'm studying Computers Science at the University of Havana. I want to thanks all of you for this great software.

I spent some time classifying my pictures and these are some stuffs i missed:

1-) Multiple picture selection. See 4)

2-) Undo actions. Note i mean "action" and not a "picture editing action". A very common mistake(for me) is to attach the wrong tag to a picture. I though Ctrl+Z would solve the problem, but it did not worked.

3-) Which tags are associated to a file. I know that in browse mode every image has an overlay set of related tags. But, let says the image "Rose, Joe and Mary.jpg" belongs to 3 categories (Joe,Rose and Mary). Each of these categories are child of the People's category (yes, those are people names). In this example the overlay shows the same icons for the 3 categories(People's tag icon). So there is no way to know the categories names the image belongs at the very first look. Still would like to see, when in browse mode, the categories name in some place.

4-) Tags shorcuts. Use case:

Lets say i have 4 main tags

1-) Rose

2-) Joe

3-) Mary

4-) Me

and a collection of 100 photos of them. Among those i can find photos from Rose and Joe, Mary and Rose, Joe and Me and so on. In the version i'm using(0.1.11), i needed to make a lot of clicks to classify them. It would be nice if there is a way to assign a shortcut to every tag, so when i can tag images by making clicks.

P.D: Sorry for the big talk and i hope i can put some code soon.

--Boundary-00=_wgKgEOjcTDYK+xh-- From m.j.hutchinson@gmail.com Fri Jun 2 19:40:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37803B11CC for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:40:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31640-09 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:40:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6263B047B for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:40:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l37so1214960nfc for ; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:40:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iiVu5uNrvJwp3bSGHpJY9ba46wGigTLj4d0CNKf3K9X9qjj7f45EEOk/NXQZkkmcWjP5YcNM016eCNZLvxOhR0kf7shx9vFtXvQBFNaIp6Y/AJDZYQsn6zX/X9lRXAjMGv4zM1lFWDLQ91EZiTPEHIQSPx9zA+FhdFWS+1VP4c4= Received: by 10.49.14.18 with SMTP id r18mr2342590nfi; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.40.5 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 00:40:48 +0100 From: "Michael Hutchinson" To: "Yoanis Gil Delgado" In-Reply-To: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.431 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.169, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.431 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: My first experiences with f-spot X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 23:40:50 -0000 On 6/2/06, Yoanis Gil Delgado wrote: > > 1-) Multiple picture selection. See 4) Use Ctrl+Click to add to the selection, or Shift+Click to select a range. I don't know is this is present in the version you're using, but it's in SVN. > using(0.1.11), i needed to make a lot of clicks to classify them. It would > be nice if there is a way to assign a shortcut to every tag, so when i can > tag images by making clicks. There are two shortcuts here. Hitting 't' will allow you to edit the tags on the selected photo by typing, and this has tab completion and will create new tags if they don't already exist. The other way is to use the right-clcik context menu. This is very useful, as it can be applied to a multiple selection. Michael From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 06:10:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0AF3B0605 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:10:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27673-08 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:10:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C063B0433 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:10:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l37so1263551nfc for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:10:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=QWg9R1s3upux3E3ZVxS8WnCj530RszgrW9kojhh/YwvEMOozpK7yB+76ECSsqqN3Sq+fUMnc7tlCpalOfmWoyMjWItSBMcv0VX7PkMp+G1R6b4+7EUf/rQRUUgwtfvrkhA7JhkOhuU+jONyXV9lAGw3BsSAUOni818nPjHnI20M= Received: by 10.49.61.17 with SMTP id o17mr2648993nfk; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C1EDBE.access.telenet.be ( [84.193.237.190]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g1sm3276320nfe.2006.06.03.03.10.24; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:10:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: David Berg In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:10:22 +0200 Message-Id: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.213 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.387, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.213 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 10:10:28 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 15:07 -0500, David Berg wrote: > Is there a way to find photos containing "Tag X" AND "Tag Y" instead > of the default OR search? It would be really nice to be able to write > more complex queries. > It is not in current CVS head, but there is a separate branch (F_SPOT_QUERY) that allows you to do more complex queries, among which the one you describe. Regards, Thomas From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 10:46:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14C83B03FF for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 10:46:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10344-02 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 10:46:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.238]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E0A3B0118 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 10:46:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so719730wri for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 07:46:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=kAmiNJHc+odyyiJiIsZi2t7K50yq9Rc5ISUrp6OiqU7WZyQ1LhpACnx5+rGi/Ev/KIW3q+knFN8yPnW5Nc29bQnWbjrIqfBbRiF7KPfbQmUqIrtu8gLlCR/TZUWzsPcTIi7kOw3nADqHVsZMp3wtA/ri4OwGCoBCzakzOTvSEO4= Received: by 10.64.142.19 with SMTP id p19mr2487044qbd; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 07:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e17sm774698qba.2006.06.03.07.46.09; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 07:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4481A0AF.6090401@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 10:46:07 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list References: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 14:46:11 -0000 Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > It is not in current CVS head, but there is a separate branch > (F_SPOT_QUERY) that allows you to do more complex queries, among which > the one you describe. Speaking of which - does anyone know what the current status is on getting that merged back into head? I really like the complex queries, but as I'm still submitting patches periodically, it's easier to work from head. Anything I can do to accelerate the process? Warren From lewing@novell.com Sat Jun 3 12:17:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A793B0712 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:17:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14666-09 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922623B073B for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13734 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2006 16:17:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Jun 2006 16:17:31 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Warren Baird In-Reply-To: <4481A0AF.6090401@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> References: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> <4481A0AF.6090401@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 11:25:23 -0500 Message-Id: <1149351924.3587.68.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.462 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.063, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.462 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list Subject: Re: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 16:17:33 -0000 I hoping to start merging things into head starting sometime this coming week after I get a chance to look over everything that has stacked up. Hopefully the query branch will follow soon after that. Thanks to everyone who has been reviewing and submitting patches, it has been great to see so much activity. --Larry On Sat, 2006-06-03 at 10:46 -0400, Warren Baird wrote: > Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > It is not in current CVS head, but there is a separate branch > > (F_SPOT_QUERY) that allows you to do more complex queries, among which > > the one you describe. > > Speaking of which - does anyone know what the current status is on > getting that merged back into head? I really like the complex queries, > but as I'm still submitting patches periodically, it's easier to work > from head. > > Anything I can do to accelerate the process? > > Warren > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list From sebwrede@googlemail.com Sat Jun 3 06:56:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F683B04A9 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:56:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29573-07 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:56:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD283B0614 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l37so1267637nfc for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:56:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=googlemail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=qkX8H0Sn8uyrgknDvJ4t+5BdAHoAaMxiaMgSHcX92vQBj23tpxzDTa63SDFN9gSnyyfil5p774LWHD47kvBBQvmE+WJerUegmaptcBFcbPm08mwJOg8npnuHgXeJPjVkcvHNeNY7hSfuiT7JZKO4HvY+Z/NUfxVfi2x2FBuaObA= Received: by 10.48.221.15 with SMTP id t15mr641087nfg; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ( [84.61.8.82]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1sm3283429nfe.2006.06.03.03.56.11; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:56:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Sebastian Wrede To: Thomas Van Machelen In-Reply-To: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> References: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:56:09 +0200 Message-Id: <1149332169.9401.14.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:30:23 -0400 Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 10:56:15 -0000 Dear Thomas, dear F-Spot-Developers, First of all, I'd like to congratulate all of you to the great software you developed so far! F-Spot is really cool and very competitive compared to other tools in that area. As David and Thomas brought the topic up, I would like to ask a question that puzzles me frequently... Why does the F-Spot query patch not get integrated into the main branch? IMHO it provides already a really useful improvement over the existing query features. Do you have separate plans for an enhancement of the query functionality or are there other issues with it? Best regards, Sebastian Am Samstag, den 03.06.2006, 12:10 +0200 schrieb Thomas Van Machelen: > It is not in current CVS head, but there is a separate branch > (F_SPOT_QUERY) that allows you to do more complex queries, among which > the one you describe. > > Regards, > Thomas > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From lewing@novell.com Sat Jun 3 12:37:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199283B05AE for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:37:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15977-01 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE4A3B02FE for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:37:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13743 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2006 16:37:04 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Jun 2006 16:37:04 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Stephane Delcroix In-Reply-To: <1149257301.7904.10.camel@localhost> References: <1149257301.7904.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 11:45:07 -0500 Message-Id: <1149353107.3587.74.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.462 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.063, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.462 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Bug 318376 =?windows-1251?q?=96?= JPEG saving ignores original quality X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 16:37:07 -0000 I've only scanned the patch so far, but it makes me wonder how much of the jpegdump code is actually used for the quality guessing. F-Spot already includes code to handle marker parsing and it might make sense to just extract the portion that scans coefficients and integrate it with the other code. --Larry On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 16:08 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Do not choose default for the user anymore... just try to guess the > original compression factor ! > > I've submitted a patch, based on jpegdump, adding that ability to > f-spot. > > the bug: > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318376 > > the comment: > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318376#c9 > > the patch: > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=66658&action=view > > > Regards, > > Stephane > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list From gabriel.burt@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 20:51:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5B03B0383 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:51:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06189-06 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53A93B0317 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i3so763046wra for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:51:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bwnnhpe3zxbYkwmnuaLdPtnuBU7E+tqbOn8u4aSS9ikcTy1fIg+gu1eH7IvIxj7WXHT3eLK6zu0/LxJg6u3NVHSktwOeoz4AAnPFO63hdep/HQLF4cX7CyRndTFqqNJzY3kUOb2/Y2NiTLrpaNch6ctE/VMPzKjfiZtxo2JIFbs= Received: by 10.54.140.8 with SMTP id n8mr936028wrd; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.105.3 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 17:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <24348e0606031751j481b5d84xb82ca4926b5bf9f5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 19:51:10 -0500 From: "Gabriel Burt" To: "Tys von Gaza" In-Reply-To: <7749526e0605021653p37309326vacde825683cf432@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <7749526e0605021653p37309326vacde825683cf432@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.338 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.262, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.338 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem make installing X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 00:51:13 -0000 On 5/2/06, Tys von Gaza wrote: > I've got f-spot compling on ubuntu dapper but am running into the > following problem when running make install, any suggestions? > > Making install in po > make[1]: Entering directory `/home/tys/src/fspotcvs/f-spot/po' > make[1]: install_sh@: Command not found > make[1]: *** [install-data-yes] Error 127 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tys/src/fspotcvs/f-spot/po' > make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 Try doing sudo apt-get install build-essential Gabriel From gabriel.burt@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 20:52:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DF63B0383 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:52:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06566-03 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:52:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E7B3B00DF for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i3so763172wra for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:52:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ugI1/Z7LNnoQMDtF2kdSmXmMVm56AhNLgrA4LB0xrsEnFRfpv4ewoCJlfMqN2Nclg73MU3k8Cf7jx4ZZ9VEErdu4muS14jO5GPn6/sKu319m3lWobB5tvdt7bPBtTcyrCW9GSih+ZOqPw0Sveba/zPh2vGVZhMMJWik0rnE+8IE= Received: by 10.54.93.11 with SMTP id q11mr3486370wrb; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.105.3 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 17:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <24348e0606031752x550d2501g79bb93087d6726d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 19:52:41 -0500 From: "Gabriel Burt" To: "Frank Henderson" In-Reply-To: <4457837B.90604@twcny.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4457837B.90604@twcny.rr.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.351 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.249, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.351 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Uploading photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 00:52:43 -0000 On 5/2/06, Frank Henderson wrote: > Anybody got a suggestion as to why photos I send via email to individual > recipients don't arrive? Perhaps it's a problem with your mail client? Have you tried sending them to an address you can check to make sure it's not their client or misunderstanding? Gabriel From gabriel.burt@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 21:03:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724F83B0108 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 21:03:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06740-08 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 21:03:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.233]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65423B00DF for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 21:03:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i3so763886wra for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:03:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Eo9Ve9yzd40CCVkDG4O8wQzGTrLfLKFdm5rZI6NYOVXBck0rP0NBdB/66gqCwngfBCgX1/XmlCBcbBcomq5Gzy+hUWIngpPM7mW7r6SitB8eNKM4cXCFhOeoFrQ7vFqL6fnCYQ/KcHEq604MkA6lldOQh5oXuVFKTeMv4FH/Y1w= Received: by 10.54.80.16 with SMTP id d16mr3050549wrb; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.105.3 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 18:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <24348e0606031803h6493b93cof1a74f182c4b3fb8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:03:34 -0500 From: "Gabriel Burt" To: "Yoanis Gil Delgado" In-Reply-To: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.363 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.237, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.363 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: My first experiences with f-spot X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 01:03:39 -0000 On 6/2/06, Yoanis Gil Delgado wrote: > 2-) Undo actions. Note i mean "action" and not a "picture editing action". A > very common mistake(for me) is to attach the wrong tag to a picture. I > though Ctrl+Z would solve the problem, but it did not worked. Please file an enhancement bug report for this. > 3-) Which tags are associated to a file. I know that in browse mode every > image has an overlay set of related tags. But, let says the image "Rose, Joe > and Mary.jpg" belongs to 3 categories (Joe,Rose and Mary). Each of these > categories are child of the People's category (yes, those are people names). > In this example the overlay shows the same icons for the 3 > categories(People's tag icon). So there is no way to know the categories > names the image belongs at the very first look. Still would like to see, > when in browse mode, the categories name in some place. I believe the icon related portion of this bug has been reported at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332584 - though the naming part isn't. It is simple to pop up labels for the tags shown in Edit mode, but it is more difficult for Browse mode because the icons aren't drawn as separate widgets but onto a common canvas (I believe). This part of the issue probably has been reported in some other bug, though I'm not sure. Thanks for the ideas, they are appreciated. Gabriel From mercen@mercen.org Sun Jun 4 05:37:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1540B3B013C for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 05:37:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08301-08 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 05:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (smtp4-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.30]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49CAB3B00BD for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 05:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pu-erh (lns-bzn-26-82-254-105-206.adsl.proxad.net [82.254.105.206]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999E8547E8 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 11:37:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mercen by pu-erh with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Fmp3u-00072T-Qr for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 11:38:22 +0200 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 11:38:22 +0200 From: Thomas Paris To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060604093822.GD23532@pu-erh> Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org References: <1142363109.12790.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1142368032.8661.127.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1142631005.12801.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1148508089.13380.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1148508089.13380.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Compare photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 09:37:40 -0000 Hi James, Thanks for working on this feature. I've just given your patch a very quick try and I think, once it's ready, I'm gonna love it. On Wed May 24 at 23:01 (+0100), you wrote: > To use the compare view select two (or more) photos in icon view then > select the new full screen view icon (I'm not to sure how to make a new > icon just yet) with the "Compare photos" tip. Do we really need a new mode? Can't comparison be a special case of Edit? What I'm trying to say is that I believe it would be good enough to have only one button to go to both "normal" Edit Mode (EM) and Compare View (CV). If only one picture is selected then go to EM. If several have been selected then go to CV. How does that sound? Or maybe have Edit Mode itself be used for comparison? You might have guessed I don't like the demultiplication of modes and views ;) > Finally - is this even useful? Sure is! Thanks again for your work! Thomas PARIS -- http://mercen.org <- news http://mercen.org/gallery <- photos From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 4 09:35:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6EB3B0155 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:35:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19867-03 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F273B009F for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:35:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k54DZ9EH010655 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 4 Jun 2006 23:35:09 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: Tys von Gaza In-Reply-To: <7749526e0605021653p37309326vacde825683cf432@mail.gmail.com> References: <7749526e0605021653p37309326vacde825683cf432@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 23:35:11 +1000 Message-Id: <1149428112.10029.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem make installing X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 13:35:15 -0000 On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 17:53 -0600, Tys von Gaza wrote: > I've got f-spot compling on ubuntu dapper but am running into the > following problem when running make install, any suggestions? > > Making install in po > make[1]: Entering directory `/home/tys/src/fspotcvs/f-spot/po' > make[1]: install_sh@: Command not found > make[1]: *** [install-data-yes] Error 127 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tys/src/fspotcvs/f-spot/po' > make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 > _______________________________________________ I never managed to figure out the reason for this, but the quick and dirty workaround (which needs to be re-applied every now and then), is to add the absolut path to install-sh in po/Makefile. In my case install_sh = /home/bengt/CVS/f-spot/f-spot/install-sh From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Sun Jun 4 20:28:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587BC3B0248 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:28:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21815-04 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:28:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52A43B029E for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:28:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so939442wri for ; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:28:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=PElp/4zEdhyVapmAJRrnypJALSF8r5wF+/xx5V14J6H9PSwSl/35HUvyc+2n8EdgQcfGFfEsDLPmbG29dVNJDWBw8yPlNM5xaOYBLsc++6HNSDsAOFkdzedVrU5XiyafUsrPaz2duJkpYRAVa1+G6qRvfGBiLU2kTDias/xqQ/E= Received: by 10.65.250.16 with SMTP id c16mr3034438qbs; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f13sm1779141qba.2006.06.04.17.28.45; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44837AB9.4070402@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 20:28:41 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Patch for pre-caching Images X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 00:28:48 -0000 Hi all, I've created a patch that enables pre-caching of the 'expected next' item in full-screen mode (and secondarily in 'edit-photo' mode as well). I couldn't find a bug to attach the patch to, so I created a new one: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343856 Basically, with the patch, f-spot tries to guess what image you are going to load next, and loads it in the background - if it completes the background load before you switch to the next image, then it redraws immediately, rather than doing the slow, progressive load thing. I'm interested in feedback on this from other people --- for me, it makes a *huge* difference when viewing images in full-screen mode... Warren From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 5 01:46:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11BC3B04C0 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 01:46:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05459-08 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 01:46:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF383B0297 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 01:46:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k555kZ5D001090 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 15:46:36 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 15:46:41 +1000 Message-Id: <1149486401.7586.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Subject: cannot install `libfspot.la' X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 05:46:41 -0000 Is it only me, or have something changed during the last few days? /Bengt > bengt@jolly:~/CVS/f-spot/f-spot$ ./autogen.sh --prefix=/opt/unstable/f-spot > make all install > > /bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs /opt/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot > /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=install /usr/bin/install -c libfspot.la /opt/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/libfspot.la > libtool: install: error: cannot install `libfspot.la' to a directory not ending in /usr/local/lib/f-spot > make[2]: *** [install-fspotlibLTLIBRARIES] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/bengt/CVS/f-spot/f-spot/libfspot' > make[1]: *** [install-am] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/bengt/CVS/f-spot/f-spot/libfspot' > make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 5 23:09:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665183B0074 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 23:09:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18950-01 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 23:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6AE3B0005 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 23:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5639KSU018437 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 13:09:22 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 13:09:30 +1000 Message-Id: <1149563370.7586.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Another small 2 liner patch (343970) X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 03:09:26 -0000 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343970 Rittyan found a bug where the time in browsemode is in local time, but the time in the info box is in UTC time. >From IRC session I think I found a bug... in our f-spot's browsers photo's date is 6:26 and 6:57... and on sidebar its 2:26 and 2:57... nothing about this "2:26" and "2:57" in metadata browser :< (real time of course is 6am) http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/5682/fspotbug6df.jpg Checking the InfoBox.cs code on row 271 gives: date_label.Text = String.Format ("{0}\n{1}", photo.Time.ToShortDateString (), photo.Time.ToShortTimeString ()); And checking IconView.cs on row 245 gives: if (cell_width > 200) { date = photo.Time.ToLocalTime ().ToString (); } else { date = photo.Time.ToLocalTime ().ToShortDateString (); } The patch I created is as follows: date_label.Text = String.Format ("{0}\n{1}", - photo.Time.ToShortDateString (), - photo.Time.ToShortTimeString ()); + photo.Time.ToLocalTime ().ToShortDateString (), + photo.Time.ToLocalTime ().ToShortTimeString ()); From drberg1000@gmail.com Wed Jun 7 13:33:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F057F3B0135 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 13:33:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00939-03 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 13:33:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111163B00C6 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 13:33:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id x31so357322pye for ; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:33:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=rrrDuk7thGbmxCaV+GpDgO64AwgBzkX9b2BdjNGQ+YeaRhQg7sVHAqTbP9GyoMI4x73agoWOBS1RAN6LBlGQGAyTvOFbtAD9JvKtMaW1DAOw/OoXLma0PVCI95fGE98Kj+Tau7HhLIEgBZG8kGg5+CXqpLKVW9q4INobBEeinhE= Received: by 10.35.40.10 with SMTP id s10mr1001021pyj; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.86.11 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 10:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 12:33:03 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.674 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.632, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.674 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 17:33:06 -0000 I just imported some photos from my camera which does not have any orientation information. I rotated the photos, then exported them to flickr. When viewing them on flickr they are not rotated. I also notice that when I view the image in the Metadata Browser the images are not rotated there. I do not have flickr "auto-magically" rotating images when they are uploaded. Am I missing something or is this a bug? From lewing@novell.com Wed Jun 7 14:02:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1C73B088A for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:02:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02871-10 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA533B0BDC for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17179 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2006 18:02:03 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jun 2006 18:02:03 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: David Berg In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 13:10:13 -0500 Message-Id: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.463 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.064, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.463 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 18:02:05 -0000 On the flickr site turn on the auto rotate option, that will let them display the way you expect there. F-Spot rotates jpegs by changing the exif orientation of the image because it is a small relatively safe modification. This produces an image just like what the camera would have produced if it did have an orientation sensor. I chose to do it this way because f-spot supports loading these images correctly and other rotation methods, lossless or otherwise, require much more drastic modifications to but the image and the metadata. The metadata dialog displays the thumbnail stored in the exif data which is always stored with the sensor orientation, so that is how you would expect it to look. That said, I will probably add an option to the preferences dialog to do rotation of the coefficients sometime in the near future because the code is already in f-spot for other reasons and some people prefer it. --Larry On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 12:33 -0500, David Berg wrote: > I just imported some photos from my camera which does not have any > orientation information. I rotated the photos, then exported them to > flickr. When viewing them on flickr they are not rotated. I also > notice that when I view the image in the Metadata Browser the images > are not rotated there. I do not have flickr "auto-magically" rotating > images when they are uploaded. > > Am I missing something or is this a bug? > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list From drberg1000@gmail.com Thu Jun 8 00:57:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43C33B031C for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 00:57:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07464-03 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 00:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB2A3B02B2 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 00:57:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id f25so417713pyf for ; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 21:57:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kyEBRFvWPiHV/Jy8sgVIKhVJJisyU/sOYSWSObFfmz4qeiiXfe9v6PGvBUYIpzK94x/19oUiiSJUfTZ2gQ3N1JRYyPC12ZlssbWPsJ+g2lLOHwypoZr2bAgwLLqh6OVDwW6pOLVGKlOVmycQ0AVkV+NPy+Fdj5AduYMHokaQ8sY= Received: by 10.35.89.10 with SMTP id r10mr1795799pyl; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 21:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.86.11 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 21:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 23:57:48 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.403 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.197, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.403 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 04:57:51 -0000 On 6/7/06, Larry Ewing wrote: > On the flickr site turn on the auto rotate option, that will let them > display the way you expect there. F-Spot rotates jpegs by changing the Hmmmm..... An f-spot rotated image does not display as rotated on flickr weather I use their "auto rotate" or not. Using their online uploading tool instead of f-spot's also doesn't make a difference. Again, am I missing something? --Dave > exif orientation of the image because it is a small relatively safe > modification. This produces an image just like what the camera would > have produced if it did have an orientation sensor. I chose to do it > this way because f-spot supports loading these images correctly and > other rotation methods, lossless or otherwise, require much more drastic > modifications to but the image and the metadata. The metadata dialog > displays the thumbnail stored in the exif data which is always stored > with the sensor orientation, so that is how you would expect it to look. > > That said, I will probably add an option to the preferences dialog to do > rotation of the coefficients sometime in the near future because the > code is already in f-spot for other reasons and some people prefer it. > > --Larry > > On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 12:33 -0500, David Berg wrote: > > I just imported some photos from my camera which does not have any > > orientation information. I rotated the photos, then exported them to > > flickr. When viewing them on flickr they are not rotated. I also > > notice that when I view the image in the Metadata Browser the images > > are not rotated there. I do not have flickr "auto-magically" rotating > > images when they are uploaded. > > > > Am I missing something or is this a bug? > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > From jaq@spacepants.org Thu Jun 8 01:51:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6323B055F for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 01:51:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10157-02 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 01:51:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx01.anchor.net.au (mx01.anchor.net.au [202.4.234.253]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE95D3B0540 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 01:51:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dawn.casa (office.bridge.anchor.net.au [202.4.235.109]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.anchor.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92EB21C4D8 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:51:40 +1000 (EST) Received: by dawn.casa (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E46562B05DD; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:52:42 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:52:42 +1000 From: Jamie Wilkinson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060608055242.GC21445@spacepants.org> Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org References: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: beefmail v0.0 X-No-CC: Please respect the setting of my Mail-Followup-To header User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.398 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.066, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.398 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 05:51:44 -0000 This one time, at band camp, David Berg wrote: >On 6/7/06, Larry Ewing wrote: >>On the flickr site turn on the auto rotate option, that will let them >>display the way you expect there. F-Spot rotates jpegs by changing the > >Hmmmm..... An f-spot rotated image does not display as rotated on >flickr weather I use their "auto rotate" or not. Using their online >uploading tool instead of f-spot's also doesn't make a difference. > >Again, am I missing something? I noticed a comment in the FlickrRemote.cs file yesterday that says something along the lines of "FIXME: flickr needs rotation", so I suspect that the orientation data could be included in the file upload. I've been playing around in there so if I find out what's going on with that I'll submit a patch. No guarantees though ;-) From steffentchr@gmail.com Wed Jun 7 03:22:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1D73B0C5C for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 03:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22221-08 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 03:22:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BD13B0343 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 03:22:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h2so84527nfe for ; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:22:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to:from:subject:date:x-mailer:sender; b=sBXtRxvuIP++tQikDFyVodcxJq3nExQ8hGuP5+j16BbDL8LHJvS0FP0mqJqfcPpS+ETMoeWzBmc0jTZsZ3PafOP+SQT4YTzO7ehnVB/SHrNq3Eg8Sg2ddcdaW2oZKFGV+Oc5sUFMFAnT8yndtnVsdLQDNteCcQxAgMeGkAXkeZY= Received: by 10.48.157.15 with SMTP id f15mr187524nfe; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.17.57? ( [83.93.78.185]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2sm585578nfe.2006.06.07.00.22.41; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <50103E49-B987-4933-8D00-F99D37F674DD@refresh.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Steffen Tiedemann Christensen Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 09:22:40 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) Sender: Steffen Tiedemann Christensen X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:55:08 -0400 Subject: Setting the endpoint of the Flickr API X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 07:22:45 -0000 Hi guys, I'm a member of the development team at 23 (http://www.23hq.com), and I have a small request/suggestion in that regard. Various photo sharing sites (i.e. our own and beta.zooomr.com) have implemented the Flickr API and allow third party apps such as F-Spot to enable photo export simply by changing the API endpoint. Would it be possible to allow user to manually change the Flickr API endpoint from http:///www.flickr.com/services/rest to something different such as http://www.23hq.com/services/rest or http:// beta.zooomr.com/services/rest. (Refer to this forum thread http://www.23hq.com/forums/message-view? message_id=742083 for a 23 user who got F-Spot exporting to work simply by adding a line to his /etc/hosts file -- this indicates that no other changes are needed in order have full cross-site support with your current code.) Thanks, Steffen Tiedemann Christensen http://www.23hq.com steffen@23hq.com From m487396@rocketmail.com Thu Jun 8 05:12:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F753B0598 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 05:12:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21911-04 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 05:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.86]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D9753B0505 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 05:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 75403 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jun 2006 09:12:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rocketmail.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=CiE/PEk3TmueAOqiBUMhBMt8S8GjK+FL2y81Gt0DE3fHOccQJBnFR7wARvRyZNLUWQo7jzzEN0CWjMo+zjyzMFP9qz0xAO3leDyCiqc6sX8ez4VZtNIxKD9znRZXjcqMbomU8eq9CscFkF8ZFnZSB5FArfksbt0E7bPZF2+WcuU= ; Message-ID: <20060608091250.75401.qmail@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [211.31.121.246] by web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:12:50 EST Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:12:50 +1000 (EST) From: "Mark A. Bell" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:55:08 -0400 Subject: problem compiling on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:12:52 -0000 Hello, I'd like to compile the f-spot-0.1.11 release on Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper. I used 'apt-get build-dep f-spot' to download dependencies. I downloaded the f-spot-0.1.11.tar.bz2 archive. ./configure fails at the following: checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate appending configuration tag "F77" to libtool checking what warning flags to pass to the C compiler... -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes checking what language compliance flags to pass to the C compiler... checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.0... yes (version 2.10.3) checking for mono... /usr/bin/mono checking for mcs... /usr/bin/mcs checking for mono.pc... found checking for Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll... configure: error: missing required mono DLL: Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll However, find / -iname 'Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll' Gives: /usr/lib/mono/gac/Mono.Data.SqliteClient/2.0.0.0__0738eb9f132ed756/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll /usr/lib/mono/2.0/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll Is my configure script looking for the file in the wrong place? Suggestions gratefully received. - mark /f-spot-0.1.11 Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com From lewing@novell.com Thu Jun 8 15:07:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E023B102C for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:07:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30616-09 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461233B1028 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18685 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2006 19:07:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Jun 2006 19:07:43 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Steffen Tiedemann Christensen In-Reply-To: <50103E49-B987-4933-8D00-F99D37F674DD@refresh.dk> References: <50103E49-B987-4933-8D00-F99D37F674DD@refresh.dk> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:15:45 -0500 Message-Id: <1149794146.13936.4.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.463 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.064, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.463 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Setting the endpoint of the Flickr API X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:07:50 -0000 Yeah happy to. It may be a little while before I have the time to add it since it really needs some UI changes to make much sense from the user's perspective. --Larry On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 09:22 +0200, Steffen Tiedemann Christensen wrote: > Hi guys, > > I'm a member of the development team at 23 (http://www.23hq.com), and > I have a small request/suggestion in that regard. Various photo > sharing sites (i.e. our own and beta.zooomr.com) have implemented the > Flickr API and allow third party apps such as F-Spot to enable photo > export simply by changing the API endpoint. > Would it be possible to allow user to manually change the Flickr API > endpoint from http:///www.flickr.com/services/rest to something > different such as http://www.23hq.com/services/rest or http:// > beta.zooomr.com/services/rest. > > (Refer to this forum thread http://www.23hq.com/forums/message-view? > message_id=742083 for a 23 user who got F-Spot exporting to work > simply by adding a line to his /etc/hosts file -- this indicates that > no other changes are needed in order have full cross-site support > with your current code.) > > > Thanks, > Steffen Tiedemann Christensen > http://www.23hq.com > steffen@23hq.com > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list From nick@communicontent.com Thu Jun 8 15:32:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92073B0774 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32276-07 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:32:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pfepb.post.tele.dk (pfepb.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.236]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D93B3B000E for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:32:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nick.communicontent.com (unknown [87.48.90.98]) by pfepb.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 6972DA50096 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 21:31:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by nick.communicontent.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 8 Jun 2006 21:44:43 +0200 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 21:44:43 +0200 From: Nick Wilson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r802 (Linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.532 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.068, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.532 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Wilson List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:32:16 -0000 hi everyone, is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive thanks! -- Nick Wilson http://performancing.com/user/1 From gcgaf-f-spot-list@m.gmane.org Thu Jun 8 16:00:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55823B0F8F for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 16:00:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01410-10 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 16:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28B23B0730 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 16:00:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FoQgD-0003YJ-0p for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:00:33 +0200 Received: from p54a195b5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.161.149.181]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:00:33 +0200 Received: from colin by p54a195b5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:00:33 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Colin Marquardt Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 21:58:21 +0200 Organization: I'd rather call it chaos. Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54a195b5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de Mail-Copies-To: never X-Draft-From: ("gmane.comp.gnome.apps.f-spot" 764) X-message-flag: Please don't add me to your address book if you are using Outlook. Thanks, Colin. X-Jabber-UID: cmarqu (see http://www.jabber.org) X-Home-Page: http://www.marquardt-home.de X-GnuPG-Key: gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.us.pgp.net --recv-keys 5359F413 X-Fingerprint: 6D9B 01B4 F8B9 500F 3056 D74F D27F EBF5 5359 F413 Cancel-Lock: sha1:x1VlmVATagVM8AvUpOEQWvh8OcI= Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.573 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.028, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.573 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 20:00:55 -0000 Nick Wilson writes: > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive Gnome applications use gconf, so in theory, you'd be able to change this setting via e.g. gconf-editor, under apps/fspot/..., but at least my f-spot version 0.1.11 doesn't allow to configure that directory. Cheers, Colin From nick@communicontent.com Thu Jun 8 17:21:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0813D3B06A5 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:21:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06221-10 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:21:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pfepb.post.tele.dk (pfepb.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.236]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF883B0FA3 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:21:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nick.communicontent.com (0x57305a62.naenxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [87.48.90.98]) by pfepb.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 15B7EA50004 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 23:21:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: by nick.communicontent.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 8 Jun 2006 23:34:40 +0200 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 23:34:40 +0200 From: Nick Wilson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060608213440.GD28036@communicontent.com> References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r802 (Linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.524 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.060, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.524 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Wilson List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 21:21:24 -0000 * and then Colin Marquardt declared.... > Nick Wilson writes: > > > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive > > Gnome applications use gconf, so in theory, you'd be able to change > this setting via e.g. gconf-editor, under apps/fspot/..., but at > least my f-spot version 0.1.11 doesn't allow to configure that > directory. ah, i downloaded that, thanks. Shame, mine doesn't have it either. I did successfully move Photos/ and then soft link to it, so maybe i can do something like that to get it doing what i want (ive never used NFS so have no clue really on that..) thanks -- Nick Wilson http://performancing.com/user/1 From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Thu Jun 8 17:35:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410B43B0105 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:35:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07181-02 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:35:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0180B3B000E for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:35:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i12so716162wra for ; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:35:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=QdYV9h9749DmL5097FYmFdvr21aVqNaGBYXjOt9CH+QmINjPdjbCy6uERkxSYIbfCFYziiDbUZPHOI1wSzO4GixpCgsnV618OBKyFVBW/vEp+NY4lvCKoVgDMe2MLy4WgIoaaoXqs+dTu9PHeU5BD6oH/+GGXhQKrcy7XMmS58Q= Received: by 10.54.126.1 with SMTP id y1mr2189765wrc; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.26.1.18? ( [216.95.183.94]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 8sm1984091wra.2006.06.08.14.35.19; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 17:35:18 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> In-Reply-To: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.531 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.531 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 21:35:24 -0000 Nick Wilson wrote: > hi everyone, > > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive > > thanks! I sent a patch to the mailing list a while back that added a '--photoDir' option to f-spot, so you can put both the db, and any imported photos in a specific directory. My particular use case is I want to have a collection of photos directly on my laptop's hard drive, but I want to have another collection of photos on a portable hard drive, and I wanted an easy way to switch between them. I thought I had attached this to a bug, but it looks like I never did. I think the patch I previously submitted was against the last snapshot --- I'll put together a patch against head and submit it tonight... Warren From bengt@thuree.com Thu Jun 8 19:42:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8EF3B00FA for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:42:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13151-10 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:42:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EFD3B0408 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:42:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k58NfpPm015892 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 9 Jun 2006 09:41:54 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: Warren Baird In-Reply-To: <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 09:41:56 +1000 Message-Id: <1149810116.7586.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 23:42:05 -0000 On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 17:35 -0400, Warren Baird wrote: > Nick Wilson wrote: > > hi everyone, > > > > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive > > > > thanks! > > I sent a patch to the mailing list a while back that added a > '--photoDir' option to f-spot, so you can put both the db, and any > imported photos in a specific directory. > > My particular use case is I want to have a collection of photos directly > on my laptop's hard drive, but I want to have another collection of > photos on a portable hard drive, and I wanted an easy way to switch > between them. > > I thought I had attached this to a bug, but it looks like I never did. > I think the patch I previously submitted was against the last > snapshot --- I'll put together a patch against head and submit it tonight... > > Warren I put together a very much preliminary patch to let F-Spot use a global configuration file as well. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331953 Here is another bug (with a patch) to let user change Photos directory. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325166 From nick@communicontent.com Fri Jun 9 17:12:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7AB3B00FE for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21145-06 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:12:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pfepc.post.tele.dk (pfepc.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E3A3B0108 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:12:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nick.communicontent.com (0x57305a62.naenxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [87.48.90.98]) by pfepc.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id BEBF28A0032 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 23:12:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: by nick.communicontent.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 9 Jun 2006 23:26:37 +0200 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 23:26:37 +0200 From: Nick Wilson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060609212637.GA14439@communicontent.com> References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <1149810116.7586.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1149810116.7586.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r802 (Linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.496 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.032, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.496 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Wilson List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 21:12:58 -0000 * and then Bengt Thuree declared.... > > > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > > > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > > > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive > > > > > > thanks! > > > > I sent a patch to the mailing list a while back that added a > > '--photoDir' option to f-spot, so you can put both the db, and any > > imported photos in a specific directory. > > > > My particular use case is I want to have a collection of photos directly > > on my laptop's hard drive, but I want to have another collection of > > photos on a portable hard drive, and I wanted an easy way to switch > > between them. > > > > I thought I had attached this to a bug, but it looks like I never did. > > I think the patch I previously submitted was against the last > > snapshot --- I'll put together a patch against head and submit it tonight... > I put together a very much preliminary patch to let F-Spot use a global > configuration file as well. > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331953 > > Here is another bug (with a patch) to let user change Photos directory. > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325166 Thanks for the help everyone. It turns out that f-spot works just fine if you swap the ~/Photos dir for a symlink, and if that symlink is pointed at an NFS mount, you can indeed keep all your photos on one drive and allow multiple boxes to access it. I've yet to set it up properly, but testing worked just great, now i just have to redo the storage box the way i want it and we're in business :) -- Nick Wilson http://performancing.com/user/1 From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 9 18:55:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F473B0370 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:55:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26392-04 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:55:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.199]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDC83B0301 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:55:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k59MthQJ017111 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:55:44 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: Nick Wilson In-Reply-To: <20060609212637.GA14439@communicontent.com> References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <1149810116.7586.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060609212637.GA14439@communicontent.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:55:50 +1000 Message-Id: <1149893750.7586.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 22:55:51 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 23:26 +0200, Nick Wilson wrote: > It turns out that f-spot works just fine if you swap the ~/Photos dir > for a symlink, and if that symlink is pointed at an NFS mount, you can > indeed keep all your photos on one drive and allow multiple boxes to > access it. > > I've yet to set it up properly, but testing worked just great, now i > just have to redo the storage box the way i want it and we're in > business :) > Are you using the latest CVS? I am using the latest CVS, and have my home directory on an NFS mount. F-Spot will not enable the Edit icons in Edit view due to this. See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344403 /Bengt From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 9 21:21:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0243B028B for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:21:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00418-01 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:21:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.196]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADD53B00D0 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:21:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5A1LDsA016968 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:21:13 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:21:13 +1000 Message-Id: <1149902473.7586.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Subject: SendEmail in MainWindow? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:21:17 -0000 Hi Seems like part of the resize photos for emails are in the MainWindow.cs, but the SendMail.cs file is missing. > $ grep SendEmail MainWindow.cs > new FSpot.SendEmail (new FSpot.PhotoArray (SelectedPhotos ())); Perhaps introduced when reverting MainWindow? /bengt From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 9 22:28:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7EC3B0161 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 22:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03436-09 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 22:28:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4BE3B01D0 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 22:28:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5A2SPJC003635 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:28:25 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list In-Reply-To: <1149902473.7586.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1149902473.7586.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:28:26 +1000 Message-Id: <1149906507.7586.87.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: SendEmail in MainWindow? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:28:31 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 11:21 +1000, Bengt Thuree wrote: > Seems like part of the resize photos for emails are in the > MainWindow.cs, but the SendMail.cs file is missing. > > $ grep SendEmail MainWindow.cs > > new FSpot.SendEmail (new FSpot.PhotoArray (SelectedPhotos ())); > > Perhaps introduced when reverting MainWindow? Or more likely by someone called murphy at my place :( After deleting all, and checkout a new version of F-Spot it worked fine. /Bengt From jaq@spacepants.org Sat Jun 10 01:33:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964973B028B for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:33:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10716-06 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx01.anchor.net.au (mx01.anchor.net.au [202.4.234.253]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655CD3B0169 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dawn.casa (203-166-247-250.dyn.iinet.net.au [203.166.247.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.anchor.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4681C6F9 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:33:08 +1000 (EST) Received: by dawn.casa (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CE0502B0BA7; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:34:10 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:34:10 +1000 From: Jamie Wilkinson To: f-spot-list Message-ID: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailer: beefmail v0.0 X-No-CC: Please respect the setting of my Mail-Followup-To header User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.034 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_WHOIS_BOGONS=2.43] X-Spam-Score: -0.034 X-Spam-Level: Subject: building with ccache X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:33:11 -0000 Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs? Now I've got a few branches of f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing. From maxima.mlist@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 05:40:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249773B0130 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:40:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23000-07 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:40:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38543B044D for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:40:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1054485pyd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:40:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=sb9Yr5B0RGgit+ST7bP1rNs6hHp/T7vcSqmIxQ/NTXJPbrG1zCDAY1NK8MwDxh9FH9XPLsH6UoNggW5QEXMCi/wPjIBSIfRvsQrTTTSfBOThVYedWBF2Bmg3bxLiiu/Sl7uW2rOcynaZ6buF79sPkJaCh2PZZWq2Hpy7TXx49fA= Received: by 10.35.91.15 with SMTP id t15mr934583pyl; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from debussy.harmony ( [203.206.244.79]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k53sm1789689pyd.2006.06.10.02.40.50; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:40:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Arif Lukito To: Jamie Wilkinson In-Reply-To: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> References: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-RHtnQ5hPXSxZloA4yo5B" Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:40:47 +1000 Message-Id: <1149932447.18989.0.camel@debussy.harmony> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.035 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_WHOIS_BOGONS=2.43, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.035 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list Subject: Re: building with ccache X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:40:56 -0000 --=-RHtnQ5hPXSxZloA4yo5B Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 15:34 +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs? Now I've got a few branches of > f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the > build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing > obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing. Isn't that ccache is only for C and C++ ? -- Arif Lukito --=-RHtnQ5hPXSxZloA4yo5B Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 15:34 +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: 
Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs?  Now I've got a few branches of
f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the
build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing
obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing.
Isn't that ccache is only for C and C++ ?


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Arif Lukito <maxima.mlist@gmail.com>
--=-RHtnQ5hPXSxZloA4yo5B-- From m.j.hutchinson@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 09:09:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6593B04A6 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:09:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03255-08 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:09:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.207]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDF93B0479 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:09:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i30so764988wxd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 06:09:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Qut/7C/0Ntt7OY7KFW+icHgUMPZ9U4euqqzUsT7/65llNw6Z0ScOU46mU02+bDFt4NXIx/Zv8K3HO0y3V6O9uq/t5NAmFvbZvnrWI+O2IIcjo1K75JHUAbt39s1OUkEr/MqrLqc7bQ0lf7vcUPBHu+u11IMS+rJdN1IdqEpQXv0= Received: by 10.70.8.2 with SMTP id 2mr4547431wxh; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 06:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.124.9 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 06:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 14:09:42 +0100 From: "Michael Hutchinson" To: f-spot-list In-Reply-To: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.259 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.341, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.259 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: building with ccache X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:09:45 -0000 On 6/10/06, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs? Now I've got a few branches of > f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the > build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing > obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing. Won't work with mcs. Even it it did, mcs is many times faster than gcc, so you wouldn't see much of a difference. You could maybe put it in front of the C parts of f-spot. Michael From drberg1000@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 11:02:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2CF3B0237 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10145-05 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:02:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F2D3B0227 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:02:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1106948pyd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:02:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uqi4FAHLtjox6py+LI4LzOTRwIwtRp2JR//+QHuhAnla3qhZ1fcJZOqEj7b5q2Zz/7fd7lqn67ouLjvfEYbqv2grbuxO5p2oqNIo1Qr9TEMN5/SILmWCI5Bv4s3Fr+YMXArE+woYFue2mfWkMYbaslLZ/cDcuS1fdn6hWtd4oZ4= Received: by 10.35.46.6 with SMTP id y6mr3646121pyj; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.82.13 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 10:02:00 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20060608055242.GC21445@spacepants.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> <20060608055242.GC21445@spacepants.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.666 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.624, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.666 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:02:07 -0000 On 6/8/06, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > This one time, at band camp, David Berg wrote: > >On 6/7/06, Larry Ewing wrote: > >>On the flickr site turn on the auto rotate option, that will let them > >>display the way you expect there. F-Spot rotates jpegs by changing the > > > >Hmmmm..... An f-spot rotated image does not display as rotated on > >flickr weather I use their "auto rotate" or not. Using their online > >uploading tool instead of f-spot's also doesn't make a difference. > > > >Again, am I missing something? > > I noticed a comment in the FlickrRemote.cs file yesterday that says > something along the lines of "FIXME: flickr needs rotation", so I suspect > that the orientation data could be included in the file upload. I don't know how f-spot is organized so I could be wrong but I don't think its a problem with any code specific to flickr. I remember this morning that my camera would rotate images by adjusting exif as well and tried it using that to rotate instead of f-spot. When I uploaded a camera-rotated-image flickr auto-rotated it. I uploaded the image both using the web interface and f-spot and both methods worked fine. When I ran exif on an image I had rotated using f-spot and compared it to this one I found that the camera-rotated-image had these entries for Orientation: dberg@dale:~/Photos/2006/6/10$ exif DSC02341.JPG | grep Orientation Orientation |right - top Orientation |right - top Where as the image rotated in f-spot had these entries: dberg@dale:~/Photos/2006/6/10$ exif DSC02342.JPG | grep Orientation Orientation |right - top Orientation |top - left Apparently flickr looks at both or just the second and is either confused by the mismatched info or decides it doesn't need to be rotated. Should I file a bug for this? --Dave > > I've been playing around in there so if I find out what's going on with that > I'll submit a patch. No guarantees though ;-) > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From bengt@thuree.com Sat Jun 10 11:12:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C3A3B028F for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:12:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10802-09 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:12:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FCF3B0187 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5AFCQfe005287 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 01:12:27 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: David Berg In-Reply-To: References: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> <20060608055242.GC21445@spacepants.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 01:12:36 +1000 Message-Id: <1149952357.7586.101.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:12:35 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 10:02 -0500, David Berg wrote: > > Should I file a bug for this? > Please do, since that is the sure way to ensure nothing gets lost during the way.... :) Good finding :) /Bengt From tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie Sat Jun 10 11:46:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADA33B01D7 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:46:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12287-04 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:46:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alfred.murphy.ie (unknown [86.43.71.228]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944AA3B0227 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alfred.murphy.ie (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alfred.murphy.ie (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5AFkbvD011987 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:46:37 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by alfred.murphy.ie (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k5AFka96011984 for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:46:36 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: alfred.murphy.ie: tim set sender to tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie using -f From: Timothy Murphy Organization: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:46:35 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200606101646.36200.tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.579 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.020, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.579 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Is f-spot what I want? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:46:57 -0000 I'm afraid it's not clear to me exactly what f-spot does (or how one gets it to do whatever that is). Basically, I have a few folders containing JPEGs, maybe 300 in all, and I want to offer them on my web-site. Can I use f-spot to create a web photo gallery? If so, what commands exactly should I give? I looked at the User Guide, but I'm afraid I didn't learn much from it. Is there a simple tutorial or howto somewhere? Any suggestions or advice gratefully received. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland From ken@vandine.org Sat Jun 10 11:58:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7623B02AC for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12471-07 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (unknown [24.25.9.100]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08923B0305 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (cpe-071-065-240-185.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.240.185]) by ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5AFwiTS025959; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken VanDine To: tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie In-Reply-To: <200606101646.36200.tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie> References: <200606101646.36200.tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:52 -0400 Message-Id: <1149955132.5110.2.camel@foobar> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.082 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.517, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.082 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Is f-spot what I want? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:58:55 -0000 You can export them to create a web gallery. http://f-spot.org/User_Guide/Share#Generate_a_Website_Gallery F-Spot is a tool for managing your library of photos. Part of that management is being able to export the photos you select and resize for the web. There are several methods for doing so, check that link out and see if it does what you want. Enjoy f-spot! --Ken On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 16:46 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I'm afraid it's not clear to me exactly what f-spot does > (or how one gets it to do whatever that is). > > Basically, I have a few folders containing JPEGs, > maybe 300 in all, > and I want to offer them on my web-site. > Can I use f-spot to create a web photo gallery? > If so, what commands exactly should I give? > > I looked at the User Guide, > but I'm afraid I didn't learn much from it. > > Is there a simple tutorial or howto somewhere? > Any suggestions or advice gratefully received. > From qub333@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 12:16:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6087A3B02AC for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:16:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13756-02 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:16:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.199]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540C63B0538 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:14:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 9so1255881nzo for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:14:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=GB86vqRKdEeOzi28pIfkBAsCyEH7ygXq9FBpSFrMwCpGU6lxZUMPDBJhYx5g5YTinsWlqL59dAJWwdJqJoJbOhf9fiPxNoMKhYYkzc9lOl5ipX4+DqmgKlnDM+TEjeaczi9JI6A2eeL+ep5nKucozR+GdJKb1PFqeiwjeQiybKs= Received: by 10.36.224.49 with SMTP id w49mr3904026nzg; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.4 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <88d636060606100914y2a85732fk46a51842dc2aa41a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:14:33 -0400 From: "Kevin Kubasik" Sender: qub333@gmail.com To: "Mark A. Bell" In-Reply-To: <20060608091250.75401.qmail@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060608091250.75401.qmail@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8e590672541337ac X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.548 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.052, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.548 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: problem compiling on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:16:16 -0000 Try the following, just to be sure sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get build-dep f-spot ./configure --prefix=/usr //becasue you are on an debian based system, you need to use the /use prefix -Kevin Kubasik On 6/8/06, Mark A. Bell wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to compile the f-spot-0.1.11 release on Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper. > > I used 'apt-get build-dep f-spot' to download dependencies. > I downloaded the f-spot-0.1.11.tar.bz2 archive. > > ./configure fails at the following: > > checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate > appending configuration tag "F77" to libtool > checking what warning flags to pass to the C compiler... -Wall > -Wmissing-prototypes > checking what language compliance flags to pass to the C compiler... > checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config > checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.0... yes (version 2.10.3) > checking for mono... /usr/bin/mono > checking for mcs... /usr/bin/mcs > checking for mono.pc... found > checking for Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll... configure: error: missing > required mono DLL: Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll > > However, > > find / -iname 'Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll' > > Gives: > > /usr/lib/mono/gac/Mono.Data.SqliteClient/2.0.0.0__0738eb9f132ed756/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll > /usr/lib/mono/2.0/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll > > Is my configure script looking for the file in the wrong place? > Suggestions gratefully received. > > - mark > > > > /f-spot-0.1.11 > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > -- Cheers, Kevin Kubasik http://kubasik.net/blog From m487396@rocketmail.com Sat Jun 10 15:42:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE34C3B0494 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:42:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23801-01 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:42:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.92]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E58ED3B050D for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73928 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jun 2006 19:42:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rocketmail.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=WrghfpbdBeyioC5I4vqJtyfXtA3g1ScLkKPv/o2ndn4pdLXa6UjyIZYeoC6OMSDLBGOnz6hAjDM9YhK+3ZpoCAJTwf5peTQwKl63oBnXOTvEKtj7zUiJfzWYVN8gihjIdCqulPiIaBoZVwC8iNpWG0IIet0bV9JfH9rESR2phWQ= ; Message-ID: <20060610194218.73926.qmail@web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [211.31.121.246] by web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:42:18 EST Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:42:18 +1000 (EST) From: "Mark A. Bell" To: f-spot-list In-Reply-To: <88d636060606100914y2a85732fk46a51842dc2aa41a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.577 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.577 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: problem compiling on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:42:22 -0000 --- Kevin Kubasik wrote: > Try the following, just to be sure > > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get build-dep f-spot > ./configure --prefix=/usr //becasue you are on an debian based > system, > you need to use the /use prefix > > -Kevin Kubasik Thanks kindly for your help, Kevin. I don't have much experience compiling packages from source. The problem was that I had mono-classlib-2.0, but I needed mono-classlib-1.0 instead. After fixing this, and a good deal of other packages, I got Flickr to configure and compile. I am most happy - thanks to all the Flickr developers. Why anyone would want to run Picassa on Linux is a mystery to me. - mark sydney, australia http://www.flickr.com/photos/m487396 Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com From qub333@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 22:16:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CA13B0456 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:16:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04252-07 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:16:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6EC3B0313 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:16:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i30so830058wxd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:15:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=jW8efGCqBx8QziPZrY6SDT9f2nHLSZQqv3oyGiR53yaYaIgI6OutbmzK0Og4QEdj7in+M37aSaWfRB5NCjCbjeprFMMzyCEWC+Rjd35/QI1+JRk2LwcAECH185L6wPxNytSmiwPm2vSFONosqEz5s2xbQg3GtdjbWM5ftfxSocg= Received: by 10.70.10.2 with SMTP id 2mr5071104wxj; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.108? ( [69.140.109.194]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h9sm4269697wxd.2006.06.10.19.15.33; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <448B7CC4.7020902@kubasik.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:15:32 -0400 From: Kevin Kubasik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060522) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=43337DF4; url=http://kubasik.net/KevinKubasik.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Kevin Kubasik X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.16 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.440, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.16 X-Spam-Level: Subject: F-spot and pkg-config X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:16:40 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Does f-spot install a pkg-config .pc file? I can't seem to find one, but I am working on some deeper integration between beagle and f-spot, and I need beagle to be able to check at compile time if f-spot is installed, and what version. A simple f-spot --version | awk {print $3} does work as a hack, but a more permanent/ professional solution would be nice. - -- Cheers, Kevin Kubasik 240-838-6616 http://kubasik.net/blog -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBRIt8xP3xZFNDM330AQjuFg/+Nwk8Yd14Toy+9NUK2OWpaCdyCcDwLVUf MchviVqlSx1dsHjQBFUczlHmmbHIjhivAp+p69rBlGPxOzUebTSUA50Sf1i+dafc cGUuimjBhd8LXehpHyEoKRdb/adrMcylhqtmOC52UnxmewKQ/oOd7c4Vdhqy/8+I n9HQuqUIS0FVQ6obRcLNRF+jz4PVInRyfOaqHiHD6g/wDUtgX5pRNdkGiqiC2J4F NbMytA2NJafwqCdJFFORUQ7O+3rSl0R0e7Ee9PodfeuNQNNm93+yeU+cOYNxkiPL i8seVQN2dhdjiGA+2ifYNna3yeG62q8hr/513j03JZUdjrZtfcixc0j+VeePpSWA Hy2M2qrNbZCRtRVkqrwmsMjzgn6F50bboGa3uhlSHWJ9+Jo1JNbU7pdu+DSyxqYJ NXv9eQBwMBPcwsoAua8fbgJsVD2/BeS8atRXcUUQgtkv8FPu5+WyD4+L22HGWLzX Urymjs4+iHKsZP4xt8FHTYpdaXch6YX+X5LDdLzkLd9RtR98C8pAEbxB6V11jisQ qnImNe42UHLGNz69mbIPWRX3AgruVlrrENfwSPTegAfAI3X0+9Yk+ZT1nGlaWsYO pN/Bs1d1adyM2zMxrMJMN6SfveJHHsm4pzNg8tNJEwv41tEjxLeK4JR3GBrqh4NY 8ua7ZQ20iWg= =728w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jaq@spacepants.org Sat Jun 10 22:23:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580633B0313 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:23:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04933-03 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx01.anchor.net.au (mx01.anchor.net.au [202.4.234.253]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A904D3B030D for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dawn.casa (203-166-247-250.dyn.iinet.net.au [203.166.247.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.anchor.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405A01D14A for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:21:52 +1000 (EST) Received: by dawn.casa (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EFE2A2B0BA8; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:22:55 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:22:55 +1000 From: Jamie Wilkinson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060611022255.GB4953@spacepants.org> Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org References: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> <1149932447.18989.0.camel@debussy.harmony> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1149932447.18989.0.camel@debussy.harmony> X-Mailer: beefmail v0.0 X-No-CC: Please respect the setting of my Mail-Followup-To header User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.034 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_WHOIS_BOGONS=2.43] X-Spam-Score: -0.034 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: building with ccache X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:23:22 -0000 This one time, at band camp, Arif Lukito wrote: >On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 15:34 +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > >> Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs? Now I've got a few branches of >> f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the >> build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing >> obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing. > >Isn't that ccache is only for C and C++ ? I've never used it before, that's why I was asking ;-) From qub333@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 22:28:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900C43B04F1 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:28:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04593-08 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:28:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DE63B0456 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:28:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i30so830843wxd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:27:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=B96MHIhFWoOBQWWZ+acTxmyJ+nAwZUGEsEq9mQ6aUjQuwLdTnsG/mkXrqg5kCiKLA/hj+kUM+oSRmYZO61aep48FtXl+JKEGTK47ev1Tp0RlPubvzCl3p+zqpOXq0ba3prazN3D+T5OwsdeQg4eIxJo2oIEH1aNh5C3Ia0sIYwI= Received: by 10.70.26.1 with SMTP id 1mr5072738wxz; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.108? ( [69.140.109.194]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h17sm4376967wxd.2006.06.10.19.27.46; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <448B7FA2.5020908@kubasik.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:27:46 -0400 From: Kevin Kubasik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060522) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Kubasik References: <448B7CC4.7020902@kubasik.net> In-Reply-To: <448B7CC4.7020902@kubasik.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=43337DF4; url=http://kubasik.net/KevinKubasik.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Kevin Kubasik X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.199 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.401, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.199 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot and pkg-config X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:28:41 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Ok, I filed this as bug #344534 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344534 Kevin Kubasik wrote: > Does f-spot install a pkg-config .pc file? I can't seem to find one, but > I am working on some deeper integration between beagle and f-spot, and I > need beagle to be able to check at compile time if f-spot is installed, > and what version. A simple > f-spot --version | awk {print $3} > does work as a hack, but a more permanent/ professional solution would > be nice. > > - -- Cheers, Kevin Kubasik 240-838-6616 http://kubasik.net/blog -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBRIt/of3xZFNDM330AQjFhg/+M+p26fVL8cXYQVpsloho71P2Ode6yIM7 X/tcHynd/WXivm8phZMJpgFpSdsr9rUmGuLc2WCvB07K217cBo3ESV0YEDvYvoeu 0P2dCKkmu9z9sKcpJsCCCrOa/nALIoTSNFPhuxE6bcy7dPVykpLbuqg160+LGyX5 TpCnayaxO4CNZu52TrctsqMF6ana7OFhJ5zft3FE3jQ/hy41VK+2ltMn5wHQ2fNe 4BTPlvzNhFlorCbY4P5snZnA2Jss3Xg3pzugq/O990BIaoOFCRThDly+hlEYrvlm hV25rue/rtsM/1A7vH3CHM8JMnC5nJYkky3b4j6RtPoekQf0zj09gFfzUhCmCMu6 0nm9DSNLjU6fVhc4M6ZFDBz1iO/eS7Z29s9jSAt1Kk5Wkqw+bNX8BUgaXuv1NE8l wr1qWjR+gfNys8UyFcEduI0bIGfYVJCq/fwR0LJU3yAJimoLlgKgPUFBZHVxL1+9 4cSJa9NBxX4/Kva75k2WHBEmSvf/2QlWrHJEYygIlSD2x+4Gg67/X1xC+7E907YU Yw8aYDHnRKx4JFVcwhz9zY6nwaEQiT+kyu4ZOGq/4B8qVdbfknajdjKDRaEspP/Y RhhG4BcPPz3tYO63CwsT39HFfA6FXj6X7Zl6ws7s0ZB5sy5hzUUwKhWofFVT8lNx MpstHJqaSlA= =dX62 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jfc001@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 05:30:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C2D3B0095 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00548-02 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BDB3B039F for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1237268pyd for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:29:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=eVJZishWuh/BkzRmlhCsCcTL848UFOONhi6OPnFccj0y6OY/91p7FB7EG1PMjqpzikeEsROOCVXl7vjnHzCIun6ogcj2fo7U+HMc/V9oXEjFzyyWf+Ddx3GgmilNVktcmjWgx/Rj/dyyt6Z50vEZm0iclpHbWyAQwtTvoru1XGA= Received: by 10.35.57.5 with SMTP id j5mr131414pyk; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.20.7 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:29:15 -0600 From: "James Carroll" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_6231_12266151.1150018155717" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.238 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.052, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP=0.175, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.238 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 09:30:20 -0000 ------=_Part_6231_12266151.1150018155717 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6232_32330217.1150018155717" ------=_Part_6232_32330217.1150018155717 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I upgraded from Ubuntu Breezy (5.10) to Dapper (6.06), but I am still not able to run f-spot. I am able to successfully compile the latest CVS version by following the How to Build instructions, (Thanks, Bengtt!), but I get the following when trying to run f-spot, either the stable version through the package manager or the latest CVS. I have attached the full error output, both for the stable version and the CVS snapshot. The output of the two is slightly different. ** (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe:2636): WARNING **: The > following assembly referenced from /home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f- > spot.exe could not be loaded: > Assembly: gnome-sharp (assemblyref_index=9) > Version: 2.8.0.0 > Public Key: 35e10195dab3c99f > The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in > the MONO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing > assembly (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot). > > > ================================================================= > Got a SIGSEGV while executing native code. This usually indicates > a fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries > used by your application. > ================================================================= > I have looked for the variable MONO_PATH isn't set, at least not in bash. Thank you so much for the help! James Carroll ------=_Part_6232_32330217.1150018155717 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I upgraded from Ubuntu Breezy (5.10) to Dapper (6.06), but I am still not able to run f-spot.  I am able to successfully compile the latest CVS version by following the How to Build instructions, (Thanks, Bengtt!), but I get the following when trying to run f-spot, either the stable version through the package manager or the latest CVS. I have attached the full error output, both for the stable version and the CVS snapshot. The output of the two is slightly different.

** (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f- spot.exe:2636): WARNING **: The following assembly referenced from /home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe could not be loaded:
     Assembly:   gnome-sharp    (assemblyref_index=9)
     Version:    2.8.0.0
     Public Key: 35e10195dab3c99f
The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in the MONO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing assembly (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot).


=================================================================
Got a SIGSEGV while executing native code. This usually indicates
a fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries
used by your application.
=================================================================

I have looked for the variable MONO_PATH isn't set, at least not in bash.

Thank you so much for the help!
James Carroll


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Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:14:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03055-01 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:14:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.166]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C2F3B0095 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:14:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5BADUcu001565 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:13:31 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: James Carroll In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:13:41 +1000 Message-Id: <1150020822.5937.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:14:57 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 03:29 -0600, James Carroll wrote: > I upgraded from Ubuntu Breezy (5.10) to Dapper (6.06), but I am still > not able to run f-spot. I am able to successfully compile the latest > CVS version by following the How to Build instructions, (Thanks, > Bengtt!), Your'e welcome :) > but I get the following when trying to run f-spot, either the stable > version through the package manager or the latest CVS. I have attached > the full error output, both for the stable version and the CVS > snapshot. The output of the two is slightly different. > > ** (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f- spot.exe:2636): > WARNING **: The following assembly referenced > from /home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe could > not Have you done the "make install" ? F-Spot will look for some libraries in the /home/james/unstable/f-spot directory even if you run the uninstalled version. /Bengt From jfc001@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 06:42:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178CE3B03C2 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:42:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04975-03 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:42:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5553B00CB for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:42:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1245373pyd for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:40:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=iYpd1sL8Oo9JSa8vJR6yHyXLIC8hlhbaYM2LBWW0l4L7iQygBq/7qiIhkedClZsd9Vv588Ywofw09jDe79xRLkpBE9vFm/7gsryKOSmkdGBSiiA/+Dy9rntQeX3th4hJcVw81+6XWIKh+obn1m8uEvwRWHSHCjIeThTmiktRRtE= Received: by 10.35.109.2 with SMTP id l2mr2349713pym; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.20.7 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 04:40:04 -0600 From: "James Carroll" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6688_26513123.1150022404549" References: <1150020822.5937.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.331 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.134, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.331 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:42:35 -0000 ------=_Part_6688_26513123.1150022404549 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 6/11/06, Bengt Thuree wrote: > Have you done the "make install" ? Yes. But I wasn't sure from which directory to run it. From your directions, I don't think it's clear if I should be in ~/development/f-spot/f-spot/src or ~/development/f-spot/f-spot/ Either way, I ran it in both (I assume the Makefile in the parent directory calls the Makefile in the subdirectory) and I still get the same error. Do I need to run it as root (with sudo)? F-Spot will look for some libraries in the /home/james/unstable/f-spot > directory even if you run the uninstalled version. What is the "uninstalled version"? To me, it seems impossible to run a program that's not installed on your computer. Is this a common term when working with projects under development, in which you might have one version "installed" and other versions in various directories, that aren't "installed"? /Bengt James ------=_Part_6688_26513123.1150022404549 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 6/11/06, Bengt Thuree <bengt@thuree.com > wrote:
Have you done the "make install" ?

Yes. But I wasn't sure from which directory to run it.  From your directions, I don't think it's clear if I should be in
~/development/f-spot/f-spot/src
or
~/development/f-spot/f-spot/

Either way, I ran it in both (I assume the Makefile in the parent directory calls the Makefile in the subdirectory) and I still get the same error.  Do I need to run it as root (with sudo)?

F-Spot will look for some libraries in the /home/james/unstable/f-spot
directory even if you run the uninstalled version.

What is the "uninstalled version"?  To me, it seems impossible to run a program that's not installed on your computer.  Is this a common term when working with projects under development, in which you might have one version "installed" and other versions in various directories, that aren't "installed"?

/Bengt
 
James

------=_Part_6688_26513123.1150022404549-- From janne.ojaniemi@nbl.fi Sun Jun 11 07:32:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387523B063F for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06916-03 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:32:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.nblnetworks.fi (smtp2.nblnetworks.fi [217.30.182.231]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339503B0640 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:32:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (xdsl-176-84.nblnetworks.fi [217.30.176.84]) by smtp2.nblnetworks.fi (8.13.1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k5BBXu9M021198 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:33:57 +0300 From: Janne Ojaniemi To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:31:38 +0300 Message-Id: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 11:32:06 -0000 What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs are unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, F-Spot constantly fights against me. So I have a bunch of photos on my computer. They are NOT in my home-folder, but rather in /multimedia/pics. This way they are accessible to my wife as well. And in that directory, they are also divided among different folders, named after the subject. This way I can browse the pictures in filemanager as well, should the need arise. Sounds simple enough? Yes it does. But why is this setup so difficult for F-Spot to handle? I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, select "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to photos-folder", and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. After the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is it? Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to select "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to find out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me where those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are located in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the date of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be in /multimedia/pics/ I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the Photos-folder. Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same set of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I edit any of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. I just re-tried the import, after I deleted the photos-folder from my home. And again it copied the files to my home. I then deleted the photos-folder again, and the thumbnails were still visible in F-Spot, but full-size photos were not. Why can't I do something as simple as this: Tell F-spot to import photos from certain folder and NOT copy the files ANYWHERE. Just import the photos, but leave the actual files where they are! IIRC I ONCE managed to make F-spot really use the /multimedia/pics, but even then, if I imported pics from my camera, F-Spot always imported them to /home/photos. So my pictures were split among two locations, when I really want to have all my pics in one location. Why is this so hard? It feels like that F-Spot has certain way of working, and it wont budge from that way. And I would have to adjust my way of working to suit F-Spot. And we are not talking about anything fundamental here, we are talking about the location where the pictures are stored! From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 11 08:55:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1333B00E2 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:55:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09811-06 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:55:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B55F3B00BB for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:55:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5BCsXfR007188 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:54:33 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: James Carroll In-Reply-To: References: <1150020822.5937.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:54:40 +1000 Message-Id: <1150030480.5937.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:55:12 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 04:40 -0600, James Carroll wrote: > On 6/11/06, Bengt Thuree wrote: > > Have you done the "make install" ? > > Yes. But I wasn't sure from which directory to run it. From your > directions, I don't think it's clear if I should be in > ~/development/f-spot/f-spot/src > or > ~/development/f-spot/f-spot/ Ok, I updated the instructions a bit. You should do the "make all", "make install", or "make all install" from the f-spot directory. Not the src directory. > > Either way, I ran it in both (I assume the Makefile in the parent > directory calls the Makefile in the subdirectory) and I still get the > same error. Do I need to run it as root (with sudo)? No need to run it as root (sudo), since you specified a target directory which is writable by your user. > > > F-Spot will look for some libraries in > the /home/james/unstable/f-spot > directory even if you run the uninstalled version. > > What is the "uninstalled version"? To me, it seems impossible to run > a program that's not installed on your computer. Is this a common > term when working with projects under development, in which you might > have one version "installed" and other versions in various > directories, that aren't "installed"? F-Spot can be run after you have done a "make all", by changing directory to src, and then give the command "./f-spot --uninstalled" But it will need some library files which it tries to find from the installation directory, so you will have to have done at least one "make install" My target directory's lib files are the following: > > ls /opt/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/ > FlickrNet.dll libfspoteog.so libfspotjpegtran.so.0 libgphoto2-sharp.dll > f-spot.exe libfspoteog.so.0 libfspotjpegtran.so.0.0.0 libgphoto2-sharp.dll.config > f-spot.exe.config libfspoteog.so.0.0.0 libfspot.la SemWeb.dll > libfspot.a libfspotjpegtran.a libfspot.so > libfspoteog.a libfspotjpegtran.la libfspot.so.0 > libfspoteog.la libfspotjpegtran.so libfspot.so.0.0.0 Can you perhaps send the console commands and output when you try and run the CVS version? (including how you start f-spot) /Bengt From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 13:12:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E953B01E3 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:12:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23016-08 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2553B01AA for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:12:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so795377nfc for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:11:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=jmJsArqQVOiw7tOxqiMXvx0gwSNK42zV+zrK/jnf39AUtWZdTMvDsGoDqhZZXYC9RQphNlZ+iPRtUJ8WZUyJ66FiB8HiuD766aExGbt5I6ub/JCTLSXUYjS6Rg5oUp5D0xb0GHDRMCF9+d66cy3gikrM1pNcEhTW5ELUZEQVZzU= Received: by 10.48.213.1 with SMTP id l1mr4142637nfg; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:11:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C0A840.access.telenet.be ( [84.192.168.64]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10sm5595991nfb.2006.06.11.10.11.40; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:11:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:11:39 +0200 Message-Id: <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.263 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.337, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.263 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 17:12:24 -0000 Hi Janne, On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 14:31 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs are > unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, F-Spot > constantly fights against me. > > So I have a bunch of photos on my computer. They are NOT in my > home-folder, but rather in /multimedia/pics. This way they are > accessible to my wife as well. And in that directory, they are also > divided among different folders, named after the subject. This way I can > browse the pictures in filemanager as well, should the need arise. > Sounds simple enough? Yes it does. But why is this setup so difficult > for F-Spot to handle? > > I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the > import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, select > "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to photos-folder", > and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. After > the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is it? > Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem > (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to select > "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to find > out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me where > those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are located > in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the date > of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be > in /multimedia/pics/ > > I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the Photos-folder. > Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same set > of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I edit any > of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my > home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. > > I just re-tried the import, after I deleted the photos-folder from my > home. And again it copied the files to my home. I then deleted the > photos-folder again, and the thumbnails were still visible in F-Spot, > but full-size photos were not. > > Why can't I do something as simple as this: Tell F-spot to import photos > from certain folder and NOT copy the files ANYWHERE. Just import the > photos, but leave the actual files where they are! > > IIRC I ONCE managed to make F-spot really use the /multimedia/pics, but > even then, if I imported pics from my camera, F-Spot always imported > them to /home/photos. So my pictures were split among two locations, > when I really want to have all my pics in one location. > > Why is this so hard? It feels like that F-Spot has certain way of > working, and it wont budge from that way. And I would have to adjust my > way of working to suit F-Spot. And we are not talking about anything > fundamental here, we are talking about the location where the pictures > are stored! Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: 1. count to ten, think of the possibility that you might have bumped into a bug 2. ask someone on irc, or on the mailing list to see if they could reproduce the behaviour 3. file a bug in bugzilla.gnome.org so people could take care of it I think that all this negative energy isn't going to get you anywhere. Regards, Thomas From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 16:19:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751723B0159 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:19:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32157-09 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:19:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930A63B00CA for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:19:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so805830nfe for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:18:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=d8C1FvMddnGIX2+QzDT+AsXHSpw4RGo8zrMlVNqTE4lLcGwFNq6RS3tx6HYRWazxU5bj6kGIFubTj+/wRfVnG/EVzQyd5CFCjdTDK8vpBHa1a0ABmt/ICj237PdEomTrpGS8nlfKlvc4TiBAncyT6PSP2cHh4FlZZ4JDjRpVT7U= Received: by 10.48.213.11 with SMTP id l11mr4233187nfg; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C0A840.access.telenet.be ( [84.192.168.64]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x1sm5709776nfb.2006.06.11.12.49.38; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:49:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 21:49:37 +0200 Message-Id: <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.323 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.277, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.323 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:19:49 -0000 Hi Janne, On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 19:11 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long > > rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: > > I apologize for my negativity. I really do. I had just spent quite a bit > of time importing pictures, only to find out that I had bunch of photos > in place where I did not want them. So I was quite pissed off when I > wrote my initial message. > I understand you were pissed off, but admit you were a bit hard ;-) > > 2. ask someone on irc, or on the mailing list to see if they could > > reproduce the behaviour > > Well, I thought that I just described my problem. > Yeah, you _kind of_ described your problem, but you left out a lot of details: * what version of f-spot are you running? * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your miserable state :-p What I suggest you do is the following: * remove the f-spot sqlite db, it's ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db * re-start f-spot, perform the import again but uncheck the "copy" checkbox _before_ you select a folder to import from * open the f-spot database by executing $sqlite ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db * perform a select * from photos go and look at the paths that appear in the output: do they point to your original directory or to the local ~/Photos dir? Regards, Thomas From m487396@rocketmail.com Sun Jun 11 16:24:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB4E3B0422 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:24:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32591-08 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.83]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA3033B026B for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:24:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23382 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jun 2006 20:23:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rocketmail.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZtGEKjbe8SmlcRnL6JNb8V7bOO7XXZ2d1xVZDU1DEL+EzwT1v85Mi/nMmPonGIL+rfPO7KjBC9fPSOTIeThLPgpBcVYIjRmVoLjnlJ26QUCuI7ftsF7QuruflaRPhHAz/dYYGsnljFS7BBMjNKJHzMuBoW51Nd/qBbRWHUKFydE= ; Message-ID: <20060611202351.23380.qmail@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [211.31.121.246] by web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 06:23:51 EST Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 06:23:51 +1000 (EST) From: "Mark A. Bell" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.487 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.088, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.487 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:24:41 -0000 Hi Janne, I don't know enough about f-spot to configure it correctly for you, but it sounds like gthumb would do the kind of things you want. gthumb http://gthumb.sourceforge.net/features.html regards, - mark sydney, australia http://www.flickr.com/photos/m487396 Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 14:31 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs > are > > unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, > F-Spot > > constantly fights against me. > > > > So I have a bunch of photos on my computer. They are NOT in my > > home-folder, but rather in /multimedia/pics. This way they are > > accessible to my wife as well. And in that directory, they are also > > divided among different folders, named after the subject. This way > I can > > browse the pictures in filemanager as well, should the need arise. > > Sounds simple enough? Yes it does. But why is this setup so > difficult > > for F-Spot to handle? > > > > I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the > > import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, > select > > "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to > photos-folder", > > and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. > After > > the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is > it? > > Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem > > (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to > select > > "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to > find > > out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me > where > > those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are > located > > in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the > date > > of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be > > in /multimedia/pics/ > > > > I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the > Photos-folder. > > Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same > set > > of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I > edit any > > of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my > > home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. > > > > I just re-tried the import, after I deleted the photos-folder from > my > > home. And again it copied the files to my home. I then deleted the > > photos-folder again, and the thumbnails were still visible in > F-Spot, > > but full-size photos were not. > > > > Why can't I do something as simple as this: Tell F-spot to import > photos > > from certain folder and NOT copy the files ANYWHERE. Just import > the > > photos, but leave the actual files where they are! > > > > IIRC I ONCE managed to make F-spot really use the /multimedia/pics, > but > > even then, if I imported pics from my camera, F-Spot always > imported > > them to /home/photos. So my pictures were split among two > locations, > > when I really want to have all my pics in one location. > > > > Why is this so hard? It feels like that F-Spot has certain way of > > working, and it wont budge from that way. And I would have to > adjust my > > way of working to suit F-Spot. And we are not talking about > anything > > fundamental here, we are talking about the location where the > pictures > > are stored! Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com From suser.koolinus@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 19:18:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D6B3B0346 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07664-10 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA343B01CC for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:18:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id s2so2120990uge for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:18:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=NZ0TIAm0g+h+U15yh1RHHAeDqDs08Kt85AgWgdvYYkHW2mbbHdcPFhJ8G8A0SqngkqX09zpA20u0TdVmVwaNXYPP9+6Pz745RzlGi7OrM7rM+C4tUm6O+PaeGh8aYIO7mBViLeu2wNsnCFo80ZMUo88F2wlXeaVU1YyXASb9H4U= Received: by 10.67.101.10 with SMTP id d10mr4592676ugm; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:08:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.46.2? ( [151.49.12.117]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q40sm4531169ugc.2006.06.11.16.08.01; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:08:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:08:27 +0200 Message-Id: <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.243 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.201, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.243 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 23:18:58 -0000 Il giorno dom, 11/06/2006 alle 21.49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen ha scritto: > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > Well, I thought that I just described my problem. > Yeah, you _kind of_ described your problem, but you left out a lot of > details: > > * what version of f-spot are you running? > * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? > * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your > miserable state :-p Hi Thomas, the "importing" behaviour described by Janne in his mail has always occurred to me too. I have my images in /mnt/fat32partition/images. Importing them in F-Spot has always caused the creation of a /home/user/Photos directory exactly the *same* size of /mnt/fat32part/images before said and with an internal structure as: /home/user/Photos/year/month/day/filename.jpg This has happened to me at least with Ubuntu 5.10, Ubuntu 6.06, Mandriva 2006, SUSE 10.0 and Fedora Core 5, rightafter importing images in F-Spot at it's first launch. So it gotta be a pretty common problem. I didn't find Janne's mail offensive or anything than pissed off. Now we should understand if he's signaled a bug or a wanted feature ;-) -- nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito http://koolinus.wordpress.com http://www.koolinus.net "If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy." Linux Registered User #293182 From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 11 20:27:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692BA3B00B7 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:27:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10384-06 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:27:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (1-1-3-2a.ehn.lk.bostream.se [82.183.137.113]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04BB3B00ED for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:27:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by denton.thuree.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDACA3AA9B for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 02:00:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 194.237.142.5 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bengt) by denton.thuree.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:00:51 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <17672.194.237.142.5.1150070451.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> In-Reply-To: <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:00:51 +0900 (JST) From: "Bengt Thuree" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-thuree-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-thuree-MailScanner-From: bengt@thuree.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 00:27:31 -0000 On Må, 2006-06-12, 08:08, nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito skrev: > Il giorno dom, 11/06/2006 alle 21.49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen ha > scritto: > >> On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: >> > Well, I thought that I just described my problem. > >> Yeah, you _kind of_ described your problem, but you left out a lot of >> details: >> >> * what version of f-spot are you running? >> * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? >> * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your >> miserable state :-p > > > Hi Thomas, > the "importing" behaviour described by Janne in his mail has always > occurred to me too. > > I have my images in /mnt/fat32partition/images. > > Importing them in F-Spot has always caused the creation of > a /home/user/Photos directory exactly the *same* size > of /mnt/fat32part/images before said and with an internal structure > as: /home/user/Photos/year/month/day/filename.jpg That is what copy usually does :) And since we are talking about photos, it is way better to be safe than sorry. But Larry is working on changing the import handling. > > I didn't find Janne's mail offensive or anything than pissed off. Now we > should understand if he's signaled a bug or a wanted feature ;-) To be honest, I agree with Thomas in this one. The mail did come out a bit harsh perhaps. Thomas had some nice suggestions as well. But totally agreeing with the frustration of Janne and others though. Tried to reply yesterday with a number of bugs that are related to this issue, but the mail seems not to have arrived to f-spot-list yet. So, here comes the bugs http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333503 (which is your problem) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337250 (specify Photos place) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318519 (lots of complaints) etc.... Anyway, nothing bad from it, and it did also highlight the fact that F-Spot is popular and becoming more so. With this comes more people using it, and a lot more different ways. F-Spot needs to handle this one way or another. /Bengt From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Mon Jun 12 01:04:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D953B00A7 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:04:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19740-03 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:04:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C721B3B000D for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:03:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h2so829310nfe for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:03:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=XZwv6v70/NHOz01EwFUE6ornrJrDXriY6+7SkIj7j5oCDgDFiLQqN7lDNmOMISDVXbdAlM+QVaHoFSG91noL+dpavcs41jRrQzfms+EzLtj2hDA0xNkUP9uADc3OgEI1QUpcCGpVmkzOzunb+mW4lLjdFiDOZvHy3wdWJY9QvFU= Received: by 10.49.92.15 with SMTP id u15mr4521889nfl; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:03:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C0A840.access.telenet.be ( [84.192.168.64]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l21sm4214223nfc.2006.06.11.22.03.10; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:03:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: "nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito" In-Reply-To: <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:03:09 +0200 Message-Id: <1150088589.6432.4.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.364 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.236, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.364 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 05:04:03 -0000 Hi all, On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 01:08 +0200, nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito wrote: > Hi Thomas, > the "importing" behaviour described by Janne in his mail has always > occurred to me too. > > I have my images in /mnt/fat32partition/images. > > Importing them in F-Spot has always caused the creation of > a /home/user/Photos directory exactly the *same* size > of /mnt/fat32part/images before said and with an internal structure > as: /home/user/Photos/year/month/day/filename.jpg > What I think has happened to both of you is the following. When you open the import dialog and select a directory before you uncheck the "copy" button, I think - but I might be wrong, I would have to check - that f-spot copies the photos to the Photos directory. If you then uncheck the button and perform the actual import, everything is imported correctly, but the Photos directory is not cleaned up accordingly. > This has happened to me at least with Ubuntu 5.10, Ubuntu 6.06, Mandriva > 2006, SUSE 10.0 and Fedora Core 5, rightafter importing images in F-Spot > at it's first launch. So it gotta be a pretty common problem. > If I'm not mistaken, there have been several fixes for this in CVS head, which are not in any released version yet. Larry, can you confirm this? Best Regards, Thomas From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 12 07:12:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB01A3B0061 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32130-01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:12:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.136]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F813B0078 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:12:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.185]) by fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5BCiZD7003471 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:44:36 +1000 Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5BCdNrY002229 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:39:25 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:39:27 +1000 Message-Id: <1150029567.5937.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:12:33 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 14:31 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs are > unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, F-Spot > constantly fights against me. Well, the version number is still far from 1.0.0 :) > > I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the > import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, select > "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to photos-folder", > and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. After > the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is it? > Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem > (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to select > "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to find > out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me where > those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are located > in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the date > of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be > in /multimedia/pics/ > > I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the Photos-folder. > Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same set > of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I edit any > of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my > home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. Do the following: 1) Click on PLUS or choose File -> Import 2) Unselect COPY to Photos 3) Choose location of the photos to be imported 4) Perform the import And yes, there are numerous bugs in Bugzilla on the import function. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333503 (which is your problem) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337250 (specify Photos place) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318519 (lots of complaints) Larry has mention he is rewriting it to fix most or all of the problems. And yes, there is also a patch in allowing you to specify your own Photos location. F-Spot is a desktop application, and as such it is not that easy to share everything around. It is one thing to share the actual photos, but F-Spot also have a database located in ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db where all the tags are stored for quick reference. And yes, there has been a number of bugs/mails about this as well. Please feel free to file bugs in BugZilla, since then the chance that they are fixed is that much higher :) /bengt From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 12 09:26:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3D53B00D4 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:26:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04111-04 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:26:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7513B0010 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:26:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5CDPCVK022421 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:25:12 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: James Carroll In-Reply-To: References: <1150020822.5937.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:25:12 +1000 Message-Id: <1150118713.5937.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:26:05 -0000 Hi James Try the following 1) checkout a new version of F-Spot 2) cd to the just checkout directory 3) autogen.sh --prefix=/home//unstable/f-spot 4) make all 5) make install 6) cd ~/unstable/f-spot/bin 7) ./f-spot if this do not work, perhaps you can try to remove everything on your computer related to F-Spot? apt-get remove f-spot updatedb locate f-spot, and remove everything, and then start from 1 again? /Bengt From janne.ojaniemi@nbl.fi Mon Jun 12 14:02:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070DB3B08DE for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:02:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21917-09 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.nblnetworks.fi (smtp2.nblnetworks.fi [217.30.182.231]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024783B0504 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 12:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (xdsl-176-84.nblnetworks.fi [217.30.176.84]) by smtp2.nblnetworks.fi (8.13.1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k5CGtEtI005527; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:55:14 +0300 From: Janne Ojaniemi To: Thomas Van Machelen In-Reply-To: <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:52:41 +0300 Message-Id: <1150131161.7085.6.camel@serenity> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:02:32 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 21:49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > Hi Janne, > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 19:11 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > > Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long > > > rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: > > > > I apologize for my negativity. I really do. I had just spent quite a bit > > of time importing pictures, only to find out that I had bunch of photos > > in place where I did not want them. So I was quite pissed off when I > > wrote my initial message. > > > > I understand you were pissed off, but admit you were a bit hard ;-) Yeah, I was :(... > * what version of f-spot are you running? 0.11.1 > * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? It's the one that is available for Ubuntu. 0.11.1-1ubuntu1 > * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your > miserable state :-p I had bunch of pics in /multimedia/pics. I used the import-tool in F-spot to import them to F-spot. I did not want those pics to be copied from their present location, so I unselect the "copy to Photos-fodler". The problem it seems was that I unselected the "copy to..." AFTER I had selected the folder to import. When I unchecked it before the folder-selection, all works like it should :) From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Mon Jun 12 14:24:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E481B3B010E for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:24:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24480-01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC003B011A for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:24:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so955622nfc for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:24:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=kzTYyWOWYfIRDqbJi4IFTF9LCkkNOSdUcXlzQuHyZ7wffcZSKzrQce/Bjx6C6jJ5NJoU+Bl9wpyO/uPgKrJaL38IfTMWNmHH0cl31v2ns4ytzXT7lt1CZR89YdMA527OnedouvizgHC3o1i1J+lT44H0rJ/su2B4d7WtEFFlzq4= Received: by 10.49.3.16 with SMTP id f16mr5126203nfi; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C0A840.access.telenet.be ( [84.192.168.64]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id b1sm5919141nfe.2006.06.12.11.24.08; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:24:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150131161.7085.6.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> <1150131161.7085.6.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:24:07 +0200 Message-Id: <1150136647.5262.0.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.395 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.205, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.395 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:24:45 -0000 On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 19:52 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 21:49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > Hi Janne, > > > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 19:11 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > > > Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long > > > > rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: > > > > > > I apologize for my negativity. I really do. I had just spent quite a bit > > > of time importing pictures, only to find out that I had bunch of photos > > > in place where I did not want them. So I was quite pissed off when I > > > wrote my initial message. > > > > > > > I understand you were pissed off, but admit you were a bit hard ;-) > > Yeah, I was :(... > > > * what version of f-spot are you running? > > 0.11.1 > > > * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? > > It's the one that is available for Ubuntu. 0.11.1-1ubuntu1 > > > * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your > > miserable state :-p > > I had bunch of pics in /multimedia/pics. I used the import-tool in > F-spot to import them to F-spot. I did not want those pics to be copied > from their present location, so I unselect the "copy to Photos-fodler". > The problem it seems was that I unselected the "copy to..." AFTER I had > selected the folder to import. When I unchecked it before the > folder-selection, all works like it should :) > Cool, and as Larry confirmed this is fixed in cvs head, everybody's happy. Nice :-) From lewing@novell.com Mon Jun 12 15:26:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94DE3B00AF for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:26:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27322-01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:26:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6848E3B0010 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:26:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21900 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2006 18:24:00 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jun 2006 18:24:00 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:32:12 -0500 Message-Id: <1150137133.3676.21.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:26:57 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 14:31 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs are > unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, F-Spot > constantly fights against me. > > So I have a bunch of photos on my computer. They are NOT in my > home-folder, but rather in /multimedia/pics. This way they are > accessible to my wife as well. And in that directory, they are also > divided among different folders, named after the subject. This way I can > browse the pictures in filemanager as well, should the need arise. > Sounds simple enough? Yes it does. But why is this setup so difficult > for F-Spot to handle? > > I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the > import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, select > "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to photos-folder", > and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. After > the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is it? > Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem > (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to select > "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to find > out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me where > those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are located > in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the date > of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be > in /multimedia/pics/ > > I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the Photos-folder. > Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same set > of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I edit any > of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my > home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. > > I just re-tried the import, after I deleted the photos-folder from my > home. And again it copied the files to my home. I then deleted the > photos-folder again, and the thumbnails were still visible in F-Spot, > but full-size photos were not. > > Why can't I do something as simple as this: Tell F-spot to import photos > from certain folder and NOT copy the files ANYWHERE. Just import the > photos, but leave the actual files where they are! > > IIRC I ONCE managed to make F-spot really use the /multimedia/pics, but > even then, if I imported pics from my camera, F-Spot always imported > them to /home/photos. So my pictures were split among two locations, > when I really want to have all my pics in one location. > > Why is this so hard? It feels like that F-Spot has certain way of > working, and it wont budge from that way. And I would have to adjust my > way of working to suit F-Spot. And we are not talking about anything > fundamental here, we are talking about the location where the pictures > are stored! > The copy thing is a bug it was fixed a few weeks ago in cvs. There had been a couple of unsuccessful attempts to fix it before that. Selecting the import directories when using f-spot to do the import is on the list of things that will probably go in but hasn't been done (completely) yet. There are patches that have been sent to this list in the last few days that start to address the issue. I'm sorry you have found using f-spot so frustrating, but I can't do much more to help than try to resolve the problems. --Larry From lewing@novell.com Mon Jun 12 15:33:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4463B0078 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:33:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27527-02 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90DEB3B00AF for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21907 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2006 18:31:56 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jun 2006 18:31:56 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Thomas Van Machelen In-Reply-To: <1150088589.6432.4.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> <1150088589.6432.4.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:40:08 -0500 Message-Id: <1150137608.3676.31.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:33:14 -0000 On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 07:03 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > Hi all, > > On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 01:08 +0200, nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito wrote: > > Hi Thomas, > > the "importing" behaviour described by Janne in his mail has always > > occurred to me too. > > > > I have my images in /mnt/fat32partition/images. > > > > Importing them in F-Spot has always caused the creation of > > a /home/user/Photos directory exactly the *same* size > > of /mnt/fat32part/images before said and with an internal structure > > as: /home/user/Photos/year/month/day/filename.jpg > > > > What I think has happened to both of you is the following. When you > open the import dialog and select a directory before you uncheck the > "copy" button, I think - but I might be wrong, I would have to check - > that f-spot copies the photos to the Photos directory. If you then > uncheck the button and perform the actual import, everything is imported > correctly, but the Photos directory is not cleaned up accordingly. > Right this is roughly the version of the bug that dapper shipped with iirc. The latest code fixes all this hoop jumping as well. > > This has happened to me at least with Ubuntu 5.10, Ubuntu 6.06, Mandriva > > 2006, SUSE 10.0 and Fedora Core 5, rightafter importing images in F-Spot > > at it's first launch. So it gotta be a pretty common problem. > > > > If I'm not mistaken, there have been several fixes for this in CVS head, > which are not in any released version yet. Larry, can you confirm this? > I can, and as I've said in this an other messages this is fixed in cvs trunk and stable. I'd happily release a new stable version today if I had any reason to believe the various distributions would ship it, but they are all currently frozen so the utility of doing that is questionable. --Larry From lewing@novell.com Mon Jun 12 15:54:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBB83B00E5 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:54:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28147-01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E733B0078 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21861 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2006 18:06:42 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jun 2006 18:06:42 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Thomas Van Machelen In-Reply-To: <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:14:49 -0500 Message-Id: <1150136089.3676.6.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:54:51 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 21:49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > Hi Janne, > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 19:11 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > > Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long > > > rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: > > > > I apologize for my negativity. I really do. I had just spent quite a bit > > of time importing pictures, only to find out that I had bunch of photos > > in place where I did not want them. So I was quite pissed off when I > > wrote my initial message. > > > > I understand you were pissed off, but admit you were a bit hard ;-) > > > > 2. ask someone on irc, or on the mailing list to see if they could > > > reproduce the behaviour > > > > Well, I thought that I just described my problem. > > > > Yeah, you _kind of_ described your problem, but you left out a lot of > details: > > * what version of f-spot are you running? > * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? > * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your > miserable state :-p > > What I suggest you do is the following: > * remove the f-spot sqlite db, it's ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db > * re-start f-spot, perform the import again but uncheck the "copy" > checkbox _before_ you select a folder to import from > * open the f-spot database by executing > $sqlite ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db > * perform a select * from photos go and look at the paths that appear in > the output: do they point to your original directory or to the local > ~/Photos dir? Just to be clear, this "copy check doesn't work bug" should be fixed in both head and stable for about two weeks. For those interested in having and f-spot that isn't quite so buggy as what is currently shipping in dapper and/or fc5 but who don't want to track the cutting edge use the fspot_0_1_branch in cvs. At lot of things have been fixed since 0.1.11. --Larry From stephane@delcroix.org Tue Jun 13 04:09:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339AB3B00C9 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15736-04 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:09:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4767B3B008F for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:09:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4157 invoked by uid 503); 13 Jun 2006 08:09:45 -0000 Received: from b7.ovh.net (HELO mail150.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.57) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2006 08:09:45 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2006 08:07:58 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2006 08:07:55 -0000 From: Stephane Delcroix To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 10:08:23 +0200 Message-Id: <1150186103.5901.15.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.181 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.275, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558] X-Spam-Score: -1.181 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Speeding up F-Spot X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:09:21 -0000 I'd just like to point your attention on two patches sleeping in bugzilla. Both are related to speed up f-spot and responsiveness. If you only have time to try and report on two patches in the following days, choose those ones !!! WorkerThread + Database threading, bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337724, patch http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=66967 : A hard name for a very good patch. Allow f-spot to write metadata in the background (thing about tagging, adjusting time, changing orientation, ...). You can even stop f-spot with some background action remaining. Next time you start, the process will continue. Thumbs up to Ruben! Progressive redraw, bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343856, patch http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=67011 : Precache images when browsing in Edit View or in FullScreen View. No more apparent redraw. Amazing! Thanks wjbaird! rgds, Stephane From gcgaf-f-spot-list@m.gmane.org Tue Jun 13 22:01:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C9D3B00D4 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:01:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13167-07 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4522C3B00C8 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FqKfq-0004If-7N for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:00:02 +0200 Received: from dsl-165-255-37.telkomadsl.co.za ([165.165.255.37]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:00:02 +0200 Received: from nmarais by dsl-165-255-37.telkomadsl.co.za with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:00:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Neilen Marais Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 03:34:29 +0200 Lines: 181 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dsl-165-255-37.telkomadsl.co.za User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Big Collections/Complex Meta-data/Is F-spot (going) to be for me? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:01:05 -0000 Hi I have a pretty big image database (about 12k photos) with fairly complex meta-data maintained in KPhotoAlbum. I've been eying F-spot for a while, since it has a very active community, looks pretty and seems quite nice to use. I also prefer GNOME apps all else being equal. KPhotoAlbum is not quite as smooth, but it's interface seems more "scalable" to me, while F-spot tries (and manages very well) to make easy stuff easy. I'm also quite excited by F-spot's ability to handle picture versions and RAW files. I don't think scalable and easy need to be mutually exclusive though. I'll list some features in KPhotoAlbum that I find makes it very useful for large/complex collections, and why they are useful. Perhaps I can convince the right people that it may be useful to implement something similar (if not identical) in F-Spot. These comments refer to F-Spot 0.1.11, as shipped with Ubuntu Dapper. I'll refer to KPhotoAlbum as KP from here on to save typing. Separate "Namespaces" ===================== F-spot seems to require the last level of a tag to be unique. Besides offending my personal sense of logical aesthetics, it also poses practical problems ;P In KP, each top-level tag is called a Category, and the tags within each Category are completely independent. In my KP database I have a "People" category for people visible in the photo, and a "Photographer" category for the person who took the picture. Of course People can also be Photographers, but usually not at the same time. Also the total number of photographers aren't the same as the total number of peoplo. It's also possible that unrelated tags can coincidentally have the same name. E.g. if you travel all over the world and meet people from all over the world, it's not unlikely that some placename in one country may be the same as someones name in another. In fact, identical placenames are quite common. Places.USA.Alabama.Greenville is not the same as Places.USA.California.Greenville (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cities#Most_common_city_names for more fun.) One can disambiguate by having Greenville_CA, but I already told you it's in California, damnit ;) Actually this is a problem in KP as well, since it's doesn't do any hierarchy within a category. It does have membership groups that does something similar, but that does not solve this problem. Membership Groups ----------------- I think F-Spot's hierarchical tags can fill the same need, but I'll describe them so its clear what I'm talking about. I'll use the Places category as an example. Say the location is "Friendly Bob's House" in Pinelands (the town), Western Cape (the state), South Africa. In KP I can make the location "South Africa" a membership group. Then I can assign all the states in South Africa (that I have in my DB anyway) to this group (e.g. Western Cape, Gauteng, etc.). Then I make Western Cape another membership group, and assign all the cities to it (e.g. Pinelands, Cape Town, etc.). I make Pinelands a membership group, and add "Friendly Bob's house" to it. Now I tag the picture with only "Friendly Bob's house". Because of the membership groups, KP knows the picture also belongs to "Pinelands", "Western Cape" and "South Africa", and will be found by searches on any of those 4 locations. Of course, Locations.South Africa.Western Cape.Pinelands would do just as well. It will also be more explicit (good), and if F-Spot supported it, would be separate from Locations.South Africa.Kwazulu Natal.Pinelands (which also exists!) Default "And" searching ======================= >From reading the list it seems that F-Spot will get more searching options soon, but IMHO if you can have only one choice, "and" would be better than "or". I hope that when the more featureful searching comes, there will be an easy way to make the default "and". Restrict Tags when Searching ============================ This kind of goes together with the default "and" searching. KP's main interface shows you a list of top level tags, along with how many entries each has. e.g. Locations - 10 People - 6 Then you select People -> "Friendly Bob" You can then look at all the pictures containing Bob, or keep selecting search tags. However, all the tags that never occur with Bob are removed, e.g. Locations - 4 People - 3 I.o.w. you see only the Locations that Bob's been photographed at and only the people that have been photographed with Bob. Now select Locations -> "Friendly Bob's House", and look at the pictures of Bob at his house, or continue: Locations (greyed out, since there are no others) People - 2 Then you could choose to look at pictures of Bob with his wife, or Bob with his son. I like this feature for two reasons. 1) If you're and-searching, there's no point in seeing the tags that will result in no pictures being found. 2) Its nice to see, for instance, how many people you have photographed at a certain location. Scalable Tag Selection ====================== It's hard to compare KP directly to F-Spot here, since the interface paradigms are quite different, so I'll just sketch my problem. In KP I have 9 Categories (i.e. top level tags), and some of them have many subtags. E.g. Events - 143 Keywords - 21 Locations - 237 Persons - 203 Photographer - 33 I've only had a camera for about two years, but found I like both photography and detailed tagging. I'm sure these numbers will have grown considerably in 10 years time! I will always have at least one tag from each of the 5 categories I listed here attached to every picture, so it is critical that tags can be selected from a large selection easily. KP makes the default way of finding a tag incremental search, and also sorts tags in order of last use by default. It also manages each category completely separately which means the 100's of "Persons" tags don't make it hard to pick a tag from the "Keywords" category. While I haven't dealt with that many tags in F-Spot, my feeling is the tag toolbar/tree on the left of F-Spot will be fairly well suited to dealing with many tags. Other places, where there are flat lists with all tag hierarchies exploded, will probably be unpleasant to use. What I'd need to switch ======================= Like you care ;P Anyway, my needs in order of priority are 1) "Fully qualified" tag uniqueness (i.e. People.A != Places.A) 2) "And" searching 3) Tag Restrictions while and-searching 4) Improved UI for selecting from large numbers of tags 1) is completely critical, since I can't losslesly move my current data into F-Spot without it. 2) is pretty important. 3) and 4) would be nice to have, but not that important. If other people think it's a good idea, should I make feature requests on the F-spot bugzilla, or how should I go ahead? Thanks for listening Neilen -- you know its kind of tragic we live in the new world but we've lost the magic -- Battery 9 (www.battery9.co.za) From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 16 05:48:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633443B000B for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 05:48:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24488-02 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 05:48:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B126D3B0011 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 05:48:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1403732uge for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.17.1 with SMTP id 1mr940549huq; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:37:44 +0200 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Importing photos with tags MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:48:45 -0000 I have several hundered photos that were tagged in a Windows program (BrilliantPhoto). I can extract the tags with a script and create an XML file or SQL dump for the tags. How can I then import that into the F-spot database? Any documentation on the F-spot database would be helpful. Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://gmail-com.com From stephane@delcroix.org Fri Jun 16 10:22:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D667D3B0012 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:22:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31319-04 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:22:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09E23B0007 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:22:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19469 invoked by uid 503); 16 Jun 2006 14:23:03 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail56.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2006 14:23:02 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2006 14:20:45 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2006 14:20:42 -0000 Subject: plugin support for F-Spot From: Stephane Delcroix To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 16:20:57 +0200 Message-Id: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.500004/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.178 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.272, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558] X-Spam-Score: -1.178 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:22:25 -0000 Hi list, I've spend some time lately to develop a plugin facility for F-Spot. So far, I've a virtual plugin class, some methods to load plugins, and a testplugin. Thanks to Thomas and his solution to bug #344534, I've also a way to compile plugins without the F-Spot sources. The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my guess), but some people need this. I'll be happy to see any comments, remarks, requirements... regards, Stephane From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Fri Jun 16 21:25:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCE03B0204 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:25:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30558-07 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:25:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE40D3B01CC for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:25:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1829050uge for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.10 with SMTP id d10mr3246797ugm; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.27.18 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606161816l8e942a7w9c1623407f6fd397@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 05:16:36 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: plugin support for F-Spot In-Reply-To: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.909 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.133, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.909 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 01:25:33 -0000 On 6/16/06, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as > many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to > my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my > guess), but some people need this. Plug-in architecture is a very, very useful thing :) But in your approach it's not limited to exporting functions, right? Alexandre From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 16 21:34:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128F03B0208 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:34:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30551-08 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:34:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (1-1-3-2a.ehn.lk.bostream.se [82.183.137.113]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FC33B0234 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:34:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by denton.thuree.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E173AA93 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 03:08:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 194.237.142.10 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bengt) by denton.thuree.com with HTTP; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:08:46 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <54022.194.237.142.10.1150506526.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> In-Reply-To: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> References: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:08:46 +0900 (JST) Subject: Re: plugin support for F-Spot From: "Bengt Thuree" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-thuree-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-thuree-MailScanner-From: bengt@thuree.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 01:34:22 -0000 On Fr, 2006-06-16, 23:20, Stephane Delcroix skrev: > Hi list, > > I've spend some time lately to develop a plugin facility for F-Spot. So > far, I've a virtual plugin class, some methods to load plugins, and a > testplugin. Thanks to Thomas and his solution to bug #344534, I've also > a way to compile plugins without the F-Spot sources. > > The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as > many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to > my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my > guess), but some people need this. > > I'll be happy to see any comments, remarks, requirements... Cool, this will come in very handy I think. Also another plugin area would be to import old data. I can see a lot of users are having existing data in another format, and they would like to import it to F-Spot. F-Spot will probably handle the main import areas in core, but Mr XXX Super Duper Photo Software's format. Have you raised an enhancement bug so we kan track this one? /Bengt From bengt@thuree.com Sat Jun 17 04:47:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7872D3B02F8 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 04:47:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14722-04 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 04:47:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail27.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail27.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.168]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC973B010F for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 04:47:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail27.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5H8jqUY013434; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:45:53 +1000 Subject: Re: Importing photos with tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:45:51 +1000 Message-Id: <1150533952.6150.8.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.526 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.074, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.526 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 08:47:13 -0000 > > Thanks, I'll look into that. I'm really a novice, what I can do is > extract the IPTC data that the tags are currently in with PHP and then > produce a text file (be it XML or SQL) to work with. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > Actually, have a look at the JPG file first. If the tags are stored in IPTC as well as in XMP format, you should be able to use the patch I wrote to let F-Spot read XMP data. IViewMedia Pro, were only supposed to store in IPTC as far as I understood, but they also stored the tags in XMP format. Also, I think that F-Spot has prepared to deal with IPTC tags as well. Have a look and see in IptcFile.cs, and see if you can create a new patch based on the XMP importer? Anyway, gthumb stores its tags in an xml file per photo, so you can take a look at that patch. Good Luck /Bengt From dotancohen@gmail.com Sat Jun 17 12:23:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDE23B000D for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26967-02 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0C53B00D5 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:23:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2011270uge for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:22:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.47.9 with SMTP id u9mr1409565huu; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 19:21:59 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Import/ Export of tags MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 16:23:20 -0000 As I'm trying to decide which photo organiser to use (between DigiKam, F-spot, and KPhotoAlbum) I would really appreciate the ability to move photos from one program to the other and to keep my tags intact. A user on the Digikam mailing list had mentioned that he would like to tag his photos 'in the field' on his laptop and to import them into the program when he gets home. I think that a kipi Import/ Export feature would solve both our problems. It would create an XML file similar to this: People*Ester People*Studies*Eli People*Studies*Anna Place*Haifa People*Ester People*Dotan People*Army*Jacob Place*Jerusalem This can easily be imported by any application, and it provides for hierarchical tags. (levels seperated by asteriks) What does the F-spot community think of this? Would you like to be able to work on the tags on the go and to import them later? And to easily move from application to application? This would also provide a secure way to back up the current sqlite database in an accessable manner. (any text editor could open it) Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com 332 From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 18 06:32:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3623B0967 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:32:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18535-06 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.136]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B8E3B071B for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail26.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail26.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.167]) by fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5GLVAwQ011181 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 07:31:10 +1000 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail26.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5GLU5TO023274; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 07:30:05 +1000 Subject: Re: Importing photos with tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:29:56 +1000 Message-Id: <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.528 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.072, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.528 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:32:28 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 11:37 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I have several hundered photos that were tagged in a Windows program > (BrilliantPhoto). I can extract the tags with a script and create an > XML file or SQL dump for the tags. How can I then import that into the > F-spot database? Any documentation on the F-spot database would be > helpful. > > Thanks in advance. > Hi there are two patches in bugzilla that enable importing existing GThumb metadata, and iView Media Pro meta data (in fact also existing F-Spot meta data). http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322366 - GThumb tags http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 - F-Spot tags Perhaps you can write a small patch your self? And create a bug in bugzilla and attach it to :) /Bengt From jordan.d.miller@gmail.com Sun Jun 18 07:11:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6DE33B09F5 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:11:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20389-08 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F023B0939 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:11:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2178963uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.8 with SMTP id d8mr4041428ugm; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.32.4 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:10:27 -0500 From: "Jordan Miller" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: F-spot user forum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8200_13353278.1150629027803" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.055 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_00_10=0.795, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: 0.055 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:14 -0000 ------=_Part_8200_13353278.1150629027803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot Project page if there isn't one already. I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum structure. Thoughts, Jordan ------=_Part_8200_13353278.1150629027803 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot Project page if there isn't one already.

I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum structure.

Thoughts,

Jordan
------=_Part_8200_13353278.1150629027803-- From drberg1000@gmail.com Sun Jun 18 11:11:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029813B0C2B for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32093-09 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B203B0C12 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1035507pyd for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.103.12 with SMTP id f12mr7129453pym; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.82.13 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:03:41 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: "Jordan Miller" Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.383 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.217, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.383 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:11:11 -0000 On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > Project page if there isn't one already. I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as familiar with the programming tools. --Dave > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > structure. > > Thoughts, > > Jordan > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > From ken@vandine.org Sun Jun 18 14:20:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931943B00B2 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:20:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07107-02 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239F63B000A for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.107] (cpe-071-065-240-185.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.240.185]) by ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5IHXuDe018625; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:33:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: F-spot user forum From: Ken VanDine To: David Berg In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:33:52 -0400 Message-Id: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.236 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.364, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.236 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:20:15 -0000 Actually, f-spot.org is a wiki. MediaWiki to be precise. I know MW has support for a forum like commenting system. Not sure what folks thing about using that. --Ken On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 10:03 -0500, David Berg wrote: > On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > > Project page if there isn't one already. > > I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow > documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as > familiar with the programming tools. > > --Dave > > > > > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > > structure. > > > > Thoughts, > > > > Jordan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 18 18:54:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD953B0071 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:54:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12735-04 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:54:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.193]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6591D3B00AF for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5IMrQQY020575 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:53:27 +1000 Subject: Re: F-spot user forum From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:53:26 +1000 Message-Id: <1150671206.5383.3.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.529 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.071, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.529 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:54:57 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 10:03 -0500, David Berg wrote: > On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > > Project page if there isn't one already. > > I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow > documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as > familiar with the programming tools. f-spot.org is a wiki.... > > --Dave > > > > > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > > structure. > > > > Thoughts, > > > > Jordan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Sun Jun 18 19:52:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAAD23B0308 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:52:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15600-10 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:52:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC7C3B0E41 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:50:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2307846uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.10 with SMTP id d10mr1288767ugm; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.27.18 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606181649t6dc94c14s1c97d0c9d48b301a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:49:16 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.005 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.037, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.005 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:52:21 -0000 On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > structure. Why would you choose forum over existing wiki for storing ideas? Alexandre From gcgaf-f-spot-list@m.gmane.org Sun Jun 18 20:07:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADEC43B0223 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:07:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16137-07 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10243B0182 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:07:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Fs7GI-0003iB-2J for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:05:03 +0200 Received: from p54a1afb2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.161.175.178]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:05:02 +0200 Received: from colin by p54a1afb2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:05:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Colin Marquardt Subject: Re: F-spot user forum Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:59:33 +0200 Organization: I'd rather call it chaos. Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54a1afb2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de Mail-Copies-To: never X-Draft-From: ("gmane.comp.gnome.apps.f-spot" 805) X-message-flag: Please don't add me to your address book if you are using Outlook. Thanks, Colin. X-Now-Playing: Orphaned Land / Sahara -- [05] Seasons Unite X-Jabber-UID: cmarqu (see http://www.jabber.org) X-Home-Page: http://www.marquardt-home.de X-GnuPG-Key: gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.us.pgp.net --recv-keys 5359F413 X-Fingerprint: 6D9B 01B4 F8B9 500F 3056 D74F D27F EBF5 5359 F413 Cancel-Lock: sha1:K6/SELyPp8F6RwGWPi+X9Qrpu/k= Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.577 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.024, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.577 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:07:13 -0000 "Jordan Miller" writes: > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > Project page if there isn't one already. > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > structure. If you think more about searching and reading, how's this?: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.f-spot/1578 Cheers, Colin From drberg1000@gmail.com Sun Jun 18 22:52:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929363B03A9 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21279-10 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:52:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B2F3B0210 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:52:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1125529pyd for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.127.15 with SMTP id e15mr7784197pyn; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.82.13 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:51:02 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: "Ken VanDine" Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.393 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.207, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.393 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:52:06 -0000 On 6/18/06, Ken VanDine wrote: > Actually, f-spot.org is a wiki. MediaWiki to be precise. I know MW has > support for a forum like commenting system. Not sure what folks thing > about using that. Looking closer at the website I do see that it says MediaWiki. Though there doesn't seem to be any way to create an account. The "Create an Account or Log In" link doesn't allow for account creation. I guess I'm also not used to sites where information can only be accessed through searching for it or using a direct link. Perhaps a mechanism to browse the wiki would be useful. Perhaps I'm missing something when navigating the website but by looking at the main pages and a few of the ones they link to I don't see anything that would indicate there is more to the site than what I can see by browsing. --Dave > --Ken > > > On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 10:03 -0500, David Berg wrote: > > On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > > > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > > > Project page if there isn't one already. > > > > I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow > > documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as > > familiar with the programming tools. > > > > --Dave > > > > > > > > > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > > > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > > > structure. > > > > > > Thoughts, > > > > > > Jordan > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > F-spot-list mailing list > > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > From dotancohen@gmail.com Mon Jun 19 00:39:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400D23B0D22 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:39:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24632-05 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:39:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D353B0B1B for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:39:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2369453uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.33.17 with SMTP id g17mr1774973hug; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:38:39 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.408 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.366, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.408 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 04:39:53 -0000 I would be willing to run an f-spot FAQ site if someone would help me verify the correctness of the answers. Anybody who is interested can email me off list. My last wiki project turned into a hammer-the-spammer chase. If anybody has any questions with answers for a FAQ, then email them to me. I'll start compiling them and put them on a website. I haven't yet registered a name, but as soon as I see interest in the site from the list members I'll register one and get it started. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Mon Jun 19 01:42:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11923B0D4C for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:42:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26495-08 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:41:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15E43B0D43 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2393587uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.100.17 with SMTP id c17mr3950298ugm; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.27.18 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:41:16 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.788 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.812, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.788 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:42:00 -0000 On 6/19/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I would be willing to run an f-spot FAQ site if someone would help me > verify the correctness of the answers. Anybody who is interested can > email me off list. > > My last wiki project turned into a hammer-the-spammer chase. If > anybody has any questions with answers for a FAQ, then email them to > me. I'll start compiling them and put them on a website. I haven't yet > registered a name, but as soon as I see interest in the site from the > list members I'll register one and get it started. Why on Earth? We can simply grant you commit access to wiki. Alexandre From dotancohen@gmail.com Mon Jun 19 02:11:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93A63B02CF for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27360-08 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:11:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902943B00F5 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:11:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2407385uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.45.13 with SMTP id s13mr1846834hus; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:10:05 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.08 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.520, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.08 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 06:11:09 -0000 On 19/06/06, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > > Why on Earth? > > We can simply grant you commit access to wiki. > > Alexandre Have you seen what fedorafaq.org has done for Fedora? It's all the same information that is available in Fedora's wiki, but in a Q/A format on a single page. Also, and this may sound rediculous but it's true, having both the wiki and a seperate FAQ site is two sites supporting f-spot, rather than one. Even if they have mostly the same information. That's important for people googling solutions or considering a switch to fspot. I, for one, have reservations about switching to a product with very little in the way of online documentation. This will add to the amount of online documentation resources available to the community. I don't want to replace the wiki, rather to make a seperate source of information that is more concice and easier to digest. Dotan Cohen From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 19 05:06:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9093B0014 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01595-07 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:06:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fallbackmx02.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.72]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611453B0004 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:06:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail30.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail30.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.193]) by fallbackmx02.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5HLg71e010142 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:42:08 +1000 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail30.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5HLaHle030266; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:36:18 +1000 Subject: Re: Import/ Export of tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:36:16 +1000 Message-Id: <1150580177.6150.24.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.53 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.070, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.53 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:06:53 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-17 at 19:21 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > As I'm trying to decide which photo organiser to use (between DigiKam, > F-spot, and KPhotoAlbum) I would really appreciate the ability to move > photos from one program to the other and to keep my tags intact. A > user on the Digikam mailing list had mentioned that he would like to > tag his photos 'in the field' on his laptop and to import them into > the program when he gets home. I think that a kipi Import/ Export > feature would solve both our problems. It would create an XML file > similar to this: > > > People*Ester > People*Studies*Eli > People*Studies*Anna > Place*Haifa > > > > People*Ester > People*Dotan > People*Army*Jacob > Place*Jerusalem > Where should this file be. Same place as the photo? or other place? One file per photo, same as GThumb does it, or one file for all photos? Could be great to have it implemented with the new Plugin feature though :) So, with this way, you are not allowed to use a "*" as a character in any of your tags I take it? > > This can easily be imported by any application, and it provides for > hierarchical tags. (levels seperated by asteriks) > > What does the F-spot community think of this? Would you like to be > able to work on the tags on the go and to import them later? And to > easily move from application to application? This would also provide a > secure way to back up the current sqlite database in an accessable > manner. (any text editor could open it) In my humble opinion there is only one place to definitely store the tags to ensure that they follow the picture and that the tags are readable by any application. That would be embedded inside the photo in a standard way. Like EXIF/XMP. Then you do not need to worry about the tag file dissapears or (in your case) the photo location changes. Not to mention worry about what happends over the years, since EXIF/XMP follows the standard, then that should be as future proof we can get. This is one of the main reason I choose to go with F-Spot, since the other applications you mentioned do not store the tags embedded inside the photo (yet). Me, it is not always I travel with a laptop, but I have a portable harddisk which I store the photos on. If you want to tag photos on the field on your laptop, why not simply tag them directly in F-Spot in that case? Regarding backing up the SQlite database by storing the tags in an XML file, I do not think so. The SQlite database contains already more information than only the tags, and this will likely just increase. The main place for the tags to be backed up, would be that they are backed up together with the photo since the tags are stored embedded inside the photo also. As I mentioned above. This would be a great feature for the new plugin method some are working on. My humble AUD 0.02 cent /Bengt From mvermaat@cs.vu.nl Mon Jun 19 07:00:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A507A3B0091 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:00:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05478-01 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:00:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069583B008F for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:00:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from olympiaplein.xs4all.nl (olympiaplein.xs4all.nl [80.126.168.64]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5JAxGsm088831 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:59:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mvermaat@cs.vu.nl) Subject: Re: F-spot user forum From: Martijn Vermaat To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:59:27 +0200 Message-Id: <1150714768.5522.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.581 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.018, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.581 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 11:00:20 -0000 Op ma, 19-06-2006 te 09:10 +0300, schreef Dotan Cohen: > Also, and this may sound rediculous but it's true, having both the > wiki and a seperate FAQ site is two sites supporting f-spot, rather > than one. Even if they have mostly the same information. That's > important for people googling solutions or considering a switch to > fspot. I, for one, have reservations about switching to a product with > very little in the way of online documentation. This will add to the > amount of online documentation resources available to the community. While I appreciate your enthousiasm, you should be carefull with this. As an example, in the Ubuntu community I see more and more problems originating from 'third-party' documentation. Sometimes it's someone's ego, sometimes they just don't know how to contribute to the official sources, but documentation scattered around the web is a problem for a number of reasons: * Unfortunately, a lot of howto's and tutorials are of questionable quality and advocate bad practice solutions. There's no way for the project to control this. * Maintainability is a problem. New versions of the software require updated documentation. * Almost never are these howto's and tutorials available in more than one language. The official documentation for Ubuntu gets translated by the translation teams. F-Spot has not translated its homepage I think, but it could in the future. * Last but not least, duplicate efforts are often a waste of time, especially when the official source for documentation could have been improved and/or the alternative source is harder to find. Some alternative sources of documentation don't suffer from most or all of these problems, but I know that all these problems are serious for the Ubuntu community. I don't think other projects are different. > I don't want to replace the wiki, rather to make a seperate source of > information that is more concice and easier to digest. Why not add some sort of FAQ page to the wiki in the form you envision? If people really need it, I think you would certainly be allowed to work on that. -- Martijn Vermaat mvermaat@cs.vu.nl http://www.cs.vu.nl/~mvermaat/ From dkoeb@ist.tugraz.at Mon Jun 19 16:13:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134363B0217 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:13:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30271-07 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:12:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chicago097.thex.at (chicago097.thex.at [217.172.179.97]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CADB13B0D15 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leia.peony.at ([192.168.3.19]) by chicago097.thex.at (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id k5JKBegx001484 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:11:42 +0200 Received: from [192.168.5.108] (chello080109204215.2.sc-graz.chello.at [80.109.204.215]) (authenticated bits=0) by leia.peony.at (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id k5JKBFrJ007489 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:11:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Daniel_K=F6b?= Subject: Re: F-spot user forum Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:10:24 +0200 To: David Berg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at chicago097 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 20:13:01 -0000 Am 19.06.2006 um 04:51 schrieb David Berg: > I guess I'm also not used to sites where information can only be > accessed through searching for it or using a direct link. Perhaps a > mechanism to browse the wiki would be useful. Maybe you find one of these pages useful: http://f-spot.org/Special:Specialpages Daniel From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Mon Jun 19 22:05:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302153B0CC5 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:05:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16756-06 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:05:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.203]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958883B0ABD for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:05:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id x3so1236027nzd for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.251.10 with SMTP id y10mr6140024qbh; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f16sm2671314qba.2006.06.19.18.57.59; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:58:04 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list Subject: Re: F-spot user forum References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 02:05:45 -0000 Dotan Cohen wrote: > Have you seen what fedorafaq.org has done for Fedora? It's all the > same information that is available in Fedora's wiki, but in a Q/A > format on a single page. > > Also, and this may sound rediculous but it's true, having both the > wiki and a seperate FAQ site is two sites supporting f-spot, rather > than one. Even if they have mostly the same information. That's > important for people googling solutions or considering a switch to > fspot. I, for one, have reservations about switching to a product with > very little in the way of online documentation. This will add to the > amount of online documentation resources available to the community. I think this sounds pretty dangerous. F-spot is a great product, and I don't think having a second artificially created website will make it any more accepted or popular. Also, I think it would be bad to have a FAQ maintained separately from the main website - it would mean that the core contributors would have to log into two places to maintain things. Any time you put documentation in two places, you greatly increase the likelyhood of it going out of sync. However, having a FAQ section/page on the current site would be wonderful, and if you are still interested in doing it, I think that would be great! Warren From bengt@thuree.com Tue Jun 20 03:04:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A453B0F28 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:04:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31178-08 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:03:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (1-1-3-2a.ehn.lk.bostream.se [82.183.137.113]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC463B0DE5 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:03:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by denton.thuree.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905F13AA9B for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:02:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 194.237.142.21 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bengt) by denton.thuree.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:02:33 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <15179.194.237.142.21.1150786953.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> In-Reply-To: <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:02:33 +0900 (JST) Subject: Re: F-spot user forum From: "Bengt Thuree" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-thuree-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-thuree-MailScanner-From: bengt@thuree.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:04:01 -0000 On Ti, 2006-06-20, 10:58, Warren Baird skrev: > Dotan Cohen wrote: >> Have you seen what fedorafaq.org has done for Fedora? It's all the >> same information that is available in Fedora's wiki, but in a Q/A >> format on a single page. >> > > I think this sounds pretty dangerous. F-spot is a great product, and I > don't think having a second artificially created website will make it > any more accepted or popular. Definitely second this > > Also, I think it would be bad to have a FAQ maintained separately from > the main website - it would mean that the core contributors would have > to log into two places to maintain things. Again, definitely second this > However, having a FAQ section/page on the current site would be > wonderful, and if you are still interested in doing it, I think that > would be great! Just to repeat myself... Again, definitely second this To have the same material in many places will just cause a lot of problems. On the other hand, having reviews of F-Spot, or links to F-Spot in many places would be very nice. Another thing I have been thinking of, is to create a Concept Guide (and perhaps a Help manual). If you are unsure what I am talking about, please check GnuCash concept guide. Here is the link to the CVS version. http://cvs.gnucash.org/docs/guide/ This is created in DocBook format, and is easily converted to Gnome help format, can be read by Yelp, can be converted to PDF as well as to TXT format. But, perhaps best to wait a bit until F-Spot gets a bit closer to 1.0? Then again, we should be able to come up with wich chapters we should have, and fill in general things, and possible more detailed information as well. The bad thing though, the more detailed the information is, the more often you will have to change since F-Spot is still under heavy development... My small 0.02 cents... /Bengt From stephane@delcroix.org Tue Jun 20 03:24:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28353B0F09 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32166-07 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:23:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6003B0EE3 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:23:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1703 invoked by uid 503); 20 Jun 2006 07:23:55 -0000 Received: from b7.ovh.net (HELO mail156.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.57) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 07:23:55 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 07:15:20 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 07:15:13 -0000 Subject: F-Spot plug-ins From: Stephane Delcroix To: F-Spot list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq" Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:16:03 +0200 Message-Id: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.941 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.523, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -1.941 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:24:02 -0000 --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone, I'm quite proud to give you this patch, adding support for loading plug-ins into F-Spot. I'll submit it to b.g.o. soon. For now, all Plugins in all .dll in $HOME/.gnome2/f-spot/plugins are loaded, but I plan to write another plugin to enable them at will. The patch include Thomas's solution to #344534, so you can compile plug-ins from outside the source tree using: mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot MyPlugin.cs Find also attached below 2 plugins, one displaying a dialog about plugins, and a first Export Plug-in, for sending mail (the export code is just a cut and paste from F-Spot core code). Those 2 plugins compile with: mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 DialogPlugin.cs mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 SendMailPlugin.cs It's a first and very early version, so write a lot of comments about it... rgds, Stephane --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=plugins.patch Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=plugins.patch; charset=ANSI_X3.4-1968 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: Makefile.am =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/Makefile.am,v retrieving revision 1.13 diff -u -p -r1.13 Makefile.am --- Makefile.am 17 Feb 2006 17:02:32 -0000 1.13 +++ Makefile.am 19 Jun 2006 15:54:03 -0000 @@ -17,6 +17,9 @@ desktop_in_files= \ desktop_files=$(desktop_in_files:.desktop.in=.desktop) @INTLTOOL_DESKTOP_RULE@ +pkgconfigdir = $(libdir)/pkgconfig +pkgconfig_DATA = f-spot.pc + Applicationsdir = $(datadir)/applications Applications_DATA = $(desktop_files) @@ -30,6 +33,7 @@ EXTRA_DIST = \ intltool-extract.in \ intltool-merge.in \ intltool-update.in \ + f-spot.pc.in \ f-spot.spec \ $(desktop_in_files) \ $(desktop_files) Index: configure.in =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/configure.in,v retrieving revision 1.102 diff -u -p -r1.102 configure.in --- configure.in 24 May 2006 15:44:42 -0000 1.102 +++ configure.in 19 Jun 2006 15:54:03 -0000 @@ -182,6 +182,7 @@ po/Makefile.in src/Defines.cs src/f-spot.exe.config src/Makefile +f-spot.pc f-spot.spec f-spot.desktop.in ]) Index: src/Global.cs =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/src/Global.cs,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -p -r1.8 Global.cs --- src/Global.cs 22 Mar 2006 19:14:41 -0000 1.8 +++ src/Global.cs 19 Jun 2006 15:54:03 -0000 @@ -18,6 +18,12 @@ namespace FSpot { } } + public static string PluginsDirectory { + get { + return System.IO.Path.Combine (BaseDirectory, "plugins"); + } + } + public static void ModifyColors (Gtk.Widget widget) { try { Index: src/MainWindow.cs =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/src/MainWindow.cs,v retrieving revision 1.298 diff -u -p -r1.298 MainWindow.cs --- src/MainWindow.cs 9 Jun 2006 23:24:57 -0000 1.298 +++ src/MainWindow.cs 19 Jun 2006 15:54:05 -0000 @@ -44,6 +44,7 @@ public class MainWindow { [Glade.Widget] MenuItem rename_version_menu_item; [Glade.Widget] MenuItem export; + [Glade.Widget] MenuItem export_menu_item; [Glade.Widget] MenuItem print; [Glade.Widget] MenuItem send_mail; @@ -107,6 +108,8 @@ public class MainWindow { PhotoVersionMenu versions_submenu; + ExportMenu export_submenu; + Gtk.ToggleButton browse_button; Gtk.ToggleButton edit_button; @@ -376,6 +379,10 @@ public class MainWindow { // When the icon_view is loaded, set it's initial scroll position icon_view.SizeAllocated += HandleIconViewReady; +System.Console.WriteLine("###############################################"); +FSpot.Plugins.Plugger plugger = new FSpot.Plugins.Plugger(); +System.Console.WriteLine("###############################################"); + UpdateToolbar (); } @@ -1463,7 +1470,8 @@ public class MainWindow { "Joshua Tauberer", "Joerg Buesse", "Jakub Steiner", - "Xavier Bouchoux" + "Xavier Bouchoux", + "Stephane Delcroix" }; // Translators should localize the following string @@ -2495,6 +2503,9 @@ public class MainWindow { version_menu_item.Submenu = versions_submenu; } + export_submenu = new ExportMenu (); + export_menu_item.Submenu = export_submenu; + set_as_background.Sensitive = single_active; adjust_color.Sensitive = single_active; adjust_time.Sensitive = active_selection; @@ -2905,4 +2916,12 @@ public class MainWindow { { toolTips.SetTip (widget, tip, null); } + + // + //Hooks for plugin + // + public void HandleExportWithPlugin (FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin ex_plugin) { + ex_plugin.DoExport(new FSpot.PhotoArray (SelectedPhotos ())); + } + } Index: src/Makefile.am =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/src/Makefile.am,v retrieving revision 1.63 diff -u -p -r1.63 Makefile.am --- src/Makefile.am 26 Apr 2006 20:31:07 -0000 1.63 +++ src/Makefile.am 19 Jun 2006 15:54:06 -0000 @@ -25,6 +25,7 @@ F_SPOT_CSDISTFILES = \ $(srcdir)/DirectoryCollection.cs \ $(srcdir)/ExceptionDialog.cs \ $(srcdir)/Exif.cs \ + $(srcdir)/ExportMenu.cs \ $(srcdir)/FlickrExport.cs \ $(srcdir)/FlickrRemote.cs \ $(srcdir)/FileImportBackend.cs \ @@ -79,6 +80,7 @@ F_SPOT_CSDISTFILES = \ $(srcdir)/PixbufUtils.cs \ $(srcdir)/PixbufCache.cs \ $(srcdir)/PixelBuffer.cs \ + $(srcdir)/Plugins.cs \ $(srcdir)/PreferenceDialog.cs \ $(srcdir)/Preferences.cs \ $(srcdir)/PreviewPopup.cs \ Index: src/f-spot.glade =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/src/f-spot.glade,v retrieving revision 1.164 diff -u -p -r1.164 f-spot.glade --- src/f-spot.glade 6 Jun 2006 18:09:47 -0000 1.164 +++ src/f-spot.glade 19 Jun 2006 15:54:20 -0000 @@ -7250,6 +7250,20 @@ Photo Details + + + + True + + + + + + True + Export plugins + True + + @@ -7272,7 +7286,7 @@ Photo Details - + True gnome-stock-mail-fwd 1 @@ -7297,8 +7311,8 @@ Photo Details _Close True - + @@ -7635,7 +7649,7 @@ Photo Details True _Folder True - False + True month --- /dev/null 2006-06-19 09:02:49.376262000 +0200 +++ src/Plugins.cs 2006-06-19 17:38:29.000000000 +0200 @@ -0,0 +1,120 @@ +/* + * Plugins.cs + * + * Authors: + * Stephane Delcroix + * + * Copyright (C) 2006 Stephane Delcroix + * + */ + + +using System; +using System.Reflection; + +using System.Collections; + +using FSpot; + +namespace FSpot.Plugins { + + public class Plugger { + private static System.Collections.Hashtable plugins = new System.Collections.Hashtable(); + + public static string [] PluginsList { + get { + string [] list = new String[plugins.Count]; + plugins.Keys.CopyTo(list,0); + return list; + } + } + + public static string [] LoadedPlugins (System.Type type) { + ArrayList loadedplugins = new ArrayList(); + foreach (string plugin in PluginsList){ + if ( ((Plugin)plugins[plugin]).IsLoaded && (plugins[plugin]).GetType().IsSubclassOf(type)) + loadedplugins.Add(plugin); + } + return (string [])loadedplugins.ToArray(typeof(System.String)); + } + + public static string [] LoadedPlugins() { return LoadedPlugins(typeof(FSpot.Plugins.Plugin)); } + + public static Plugin Plugin(string ShortName) + { + return (Plugin)plugins[ShortName]; + } + + public Plugger () + { + LoadPluginsFromDirectory(FSpot.Global.PluginsDirectory); + InitializePlugins(PluginsList); + } + + public void LoadPluginsFromDirectories (string [] directories) + { + foreach ( String directory in directories ) + LoadPluginsFromDirectory (directory); + } + + private void LoadPluginsFromDirectory (string path) + { + foreach ( String dll in System.IO.Directory.GetFiles(path, "*.dll") ) + LoadPluginsFromFile(dll); + } + + private void LoadPluginsFromFile(string pluginfile) + { + Console.WriteLine ("Loading plugins from {0}...", pluginfile); + Assembly assembly = Assembly.LoadFile(pluginfile); + Type [] ts = assembly.GetTypes(); + foreach (Type t in ts){ + if ( t.IsSubclassOf(typeof(FSpot.Plugins.Plugin)) ){ + Plugin plugin = (Plugin)assembly.CreateInstance(t.ToString()); + Console.WriteLine("{0} available", t); + //FIXME: check if ShortName already exists in plugins[] + plugins [plugin.ShortName] = plugin; + } else + Console.WriteLine("{0} is NOT a Plugin", t); + } + } + + public void InitializePlugins(string [] pluginslist) + { + foreach (String plugin in pluginslist) { + ((Plugin)plugins[plugin]).Load(); + } + } + } + + public abstract class Plugin { + public abstract string DisplayName { get; } + public virtual string ShortName { get { return DisplayName; } } + public abstract string Description { get; } + private bool Loaded = false; + + public bool IsLoaded { + get { return Loaded; } + } + + public Plugin () + { + } + + public void Load () { + PluginInitialize(); + Loaded = true; + } + + protected abstract void PluginInitialize(); + } + + public abstract class ExportPlugin: Plugin { + public abstract string MenuEntryName { get; } + public void HandleMenuItemActivated(object sender, EventArgs args) + { + MainWindow.Toplevel.HandleExportWithPlugin(this); + } + public abstract void DoExport(IBrowsableCollection selectedphotos); + } +} --- /dev/null 2006-06-19 09:02:49.376262000 +0200 +++ src/ExportMenu.cs 2006-06-19 16:30:49.000000000 +0200 @@ -0,0 +1,28 @@ +using Gtk; +using GtkSharp; +using System; + +namespace FSpot { + public class ExportMenu : Menu { + public ExportMenu () + { + string [] exportplugins = FSpot.Plugins.Plugger.LoadedPlugins(typeof(FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin)); + + if ( exportplugins == null || exportplugins.Length == 0 ) { + MenuItem menu_item = new MenuItem ("No Export Plug-in available"); + menu_item.Show(); + menu_item.Sensitive = false; + Append(menu_item); + } + foreach (string shortname in exportplugins) { + FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin plugin = (FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin)FSpot.Plugins.Plugger.Plugin(shortname); + MenuItem menu_item = new MenuItem (plugin.MenuEntryName); + menu_item.Show(); + menu_item.Sensitive = true; + menu_item.Activated += new EventHandler (plugin.HandleMenuItemActivated); + + Append(menu_item); + } + } + } +} --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=DialogPlugin.cs Content-Type: text/x-csharp; name=DialogPlugin.cs; charset=ANSI_X3.4-1968 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit using System; using FSpot; using FSpot.Plugins; namespace FSpot.Plugins { public class DialogPlugin: FSpot.Plugins.Plugin { public override string DisplayName { get { return "Dialog Plugin"; } } public override string ShortName { get { return "DialogPlugin"; } } public override string Description { get { return "Warn the user about using plugins"; } } protected override void PluginInitialize() { Console.WriteLine("Initializing Dialog Plugin"); String header = "Plug-ins enabled version of F-Spot"; String msg = "You are running a plug-ins enabled version of F-Spot" + "\nPlug-ins can crash your F-Spot, delete all your images, and " + "completely destroy your database." + "\nYou have been warned! Don't fill any bug report " + "regarding plug-ins"; HigMessageDialog.RunHigMessageDialog(MainWindow.Toplevel.Window, Gtk.DialogFlags.DestroyWithParent, Gtk.MessageType.Warning, Gtk.ButtonsType.Ok,header,msg); } } } --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=SendMailPlugin.cs Content-Type: text/x-csharp; name=SendMailPlugin.cs; charset=ANSI_X3.4-1968 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit using System; using FSpot; using FSpot.Plugins; namespace FSpot.Plugins { public class SendMailPlugin: FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin { public override string DisplayName { get { return "Send Mail Plugin"; } } public override string ShortName { get { return "SendMailPlugin"; } } public override string Description { get { return "Create an e-mail with your photos attached"; } } public override string MenuEntryName { get { return "Send Mail...";} } protected override void PluginInitialize() { Console.WriteLine("Initializing Send Mail Plugin"); } public override void DoExport (IBrowsableCollection sel_photos) { Photo [] photos = (Photo [])sel_photos.Items; System.Text.StringBuilder url = new System.Text.StringBuilder ("mailto:?subject=my%20photos"); foreach (Photo p in photos) { url.Append ("&attach=" + UriList.EscapeString (p.DefaultVersionUri.LocalPath, true, true, true)); } Gnome.Url.Show (url.ToString ()); Console.WriteLine ("Exporting {0} pictures", sel_photos.Count); } } } --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq-- From nmarais@snowisp.com Tue Jun 20 05:13:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95F73B0097 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:13:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05163-09 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:13:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ctb-mesg7.saix.net (ctb-mesg7.saix.net [196.25.240.77]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80823B0ECC for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:13:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from office.snowballeffect.net (dsl-165-225-212.telkomadsl.co.za [165.165.225.212]) by ctb-mesg7.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD702366F for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:12:36 +0200 (SAST) Received: (qmail 29551 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2006 13:50:59 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.20.130.19?) (10.20.130.19) by 192.168.20.58 with (RC4-MD5 encrypted) SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 13:50:59 +0200 Subject: Big Collections/Complex Meta-data/Is F-Spot (going to be) for me? From: Neilen Marais To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:12:18 +0200 Message-Id: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.533 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.533 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:13:43 -0000 Hi I have a pretty big image database (about 12k photos) with fairly complex meta-data maintained in KPhotoAlbum. I've been eying F-spot for a while, since it has a very active community, looks pretty and seems quite nice to use. I'm quite excited by F-spot's ability to handle picture versions and RAW files. I also prefer GNOME apps all else being equal. KPhotoAlbum is not quite as smooth, but it's interface seems more "scalable" to me, while F-spot tries (and manages very well) to make easy stuff easy. I don't think scalable and easy need to be mutually exclusive though. I'll list some features in KPhotoAlbum that I find makes it very useful for large/complex collections, and why they are useful. Perhaps I can convince the right people that it may be useful to implement something similar (if not identical) in F-Spot. These comments refer to F-Spot 0.1.11, as shipped with Ubuntu Dapper. I'll refer to KPhotoAlbum as KP from here on to save typing. Separate "Namespaces" ===================== F-spot seems to require the last level of a tag to be unique. Besides offending my personal sense of logical aesthetics, it also poses practical problems ;P In KP, each top-level tag is called a Category, and the tags within each Category are completely independent. In my KP database I have a "People" category for people visible in the photo, and a "Photographer" category for the person who took the picture. Of course People can also be Photographers, but usually not at the same time. Also the total number of photographers aren't the same as the total number of people. It's also possible that unrelated tags can coincidentally have the same name. E.g. if you travel all over the world and meet people from all over the world, it's not unlikely that some placename in one country may be the same as someones name in another. In fact, identical placenames are quite common. Places.USA.Alabama.Greenville is not the same as Places.USA.California.Greenville (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cities#Most_common_city_names for more fun.) One can disambiguate by having Greenville_CA, but I already told you it's in California, damnit ;) Actually this is a problem in KP as well, since it's doesn't do any hierarchy within a category. It does have membership groups that does something similar, but that does not solve this problem. Membership Groups ----------------- I think F-Spot's hierarchical tags can fill the same need, but I'll describe them so its clear what I'm talking about. I'll use the Places category as an example. Say the location is "Friendly Bob's House" in Pinelands (the town), Western Cape (the state), South Africa. In KP I can make the location "South Africa" a membership group. Then I can assign all the states in South Africa (that I have in my DB anyway) to this group (e.g. Western Cape, Gauteng, etc.). Then I make Western Cape another membership group, and assign all the cities to it (e.g. Pinelands, Cape Town, etc.). I make Pinelands a membership group, and add "Friendly Bob's house" to it. Now I tag the picture with only "Friendly Bob's house". Because of the membership groups, KP knows the picture also belongs to "Pinelands", "Western Cape" and "South Africa", and will be found by searches on any of those 4 locations. Of course, Locations.South Africa.Western Cape.Pinelands would do just as well. It will also be more explicit (good), and if F-Spot supported it, would be separate from Locations.South Africa.Kwazulu Natal.Pinelands (which also exists!) Default "And" searching ======================= >From reading the list it seems that F-Spot will get more searching options soon, but IMHO if you can have only one choice, "and" would be better than "or". I hope that when the more featureful searching comes, there will be an easy way to make the default "and". Restrict Tags when Searching ============================ This kind of goes together with the default "and" searching. KP's main interface shows you a list of top level tags, along with how many entries each has. e.g. Locations - 10 People - 6 Then you select People -> "Friendly Bob" You can then look at all the pictures containing Bob, or keep selecting search tags. However, all the tags that never occur with Bob are removed, e.g. Locations - 4 People - 3 I.o.w. you see only the Locations that Bob's been photographed at and only the people that have been photographed with Bob. Now select Locations -> "Friendly Bob's House", and look at the pictures of Bob at his house, or continue: Locations (greyed out, since there are no others) People - 2 Then you could choose to look at pictures of Bob with his wife, or Bob with his son. I like this feature for two reasons. 1) If you're and-searching, there's no point in seeing the tags that will result in no pictures being found. 2) Its nice to see, for instance, how many people you have photographed at a certain location. Scalable Tag Selection ====================== It's hard to compare KP directly to F-Spot here, since the interface paradigms are quite different, so I'll just sketch my problem. In KP I have 9 Categories (i.e. top level tags), and some of them have many subtags. E.g. Events - 143 Keywords - 21 Locations - 237 Persons - 203 Photographer - 33 I've only had a camera for about two years, but found I like both photography and detailed tagging. I'm sure these numbers will have grown considerably in 10 years time! I will always have at least one tag from each of the 5 categories I listed here attached to every picture, so it is critical that tags can be selected from a large selection easily. KP makes the default way of finding a tag incremental search, and also sorts tags in order of last use by default. It also manages each category completely separately which means the 100's of "Persons" tags don't make it hard to pick a tag from the "Keywords" category. While I haven't dealt with that many tags in F-Spot, my feeling is the tag toolbar/tree on the left of F-Spot will be fairly well suited to dealing with many tags. Other places, where there are flat lists with all tag hierarchies exploded, will probably be unpleasant to use. What I'd need to switch ======================= Like you care ;P Anyway, my needs in order of priority are 1) "Fully qualified" tag uniqueness (i.e. People.A != Places.A) 2) "And" searching 3) Tag Restrictions while and-searching 4) Improved UI for selecting from large numbers of tags 1) is completely critical, since I can't losslesly move my current data into F-Spot without it. 2) is pretty important. 3) and 4) would be nice to have, but not that important. If other people think it's a good idea, should I make feature requests on the F-spot bugzilla, or how should I go ahead? Thanks for listening Neilen -- you know its kind of tragic we live in the new world but we've lost the magic -- Battery 9 (www.battery9.co.za) From stephane@delcroix.org Tue Jun 20 05:38:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3E33B0329 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:38:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06374-04 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:38:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B85A3B02FA for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:38:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28829 invoked by uid 503); 20 Jun 2006 09:38:57 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail56.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 09:38:57 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 09:37:27 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 09:37:25 -0000 Subject: Re: F-Spot plug-ins From: Stephane Delcroix To: F-Spot list In-Reply-To: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> References: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:37:26 +0200 Message-Id: <1150796247.5909.31.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.152 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.246, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558] X-Spam-Score: -1.152 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:38:37 -0000 the bug in b.g.o.: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345395 On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 09:16 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm quite proud to give you this patch, adding support for loading > plug-ins into F-Spot. I'll submit it to b.g.o. soon. > > For now, all Plugins in all .dll in $HOME/.gnome2/f-spot/plugins are > loaded, but I plan to write another plugin to enable them at will. > > The patch include Thomas's solution to #344534, so you can compile > plug-ins from outside the source tree using: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot MyPlugin.cs > > Find also attached below 2 plugins, one displaying a dialog about > plugins, and a first Export Plug-in, for sending mail (the export code > is just a cut and paste from F-Spot core code). > > Those 2 plugins compile with: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 DialogPlugin.cs > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 SendMailPlugin.cs > > It's a first and very early version, so write a lot of comments about > it... > > rgds, > > Stephane > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list -- Stephane Delcroix stephane@delcroix.org From bengt@thuree.com Tue Jun 20 06:31:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18373B00FE for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 06:31:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08584-07 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 06:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.196]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BEB33B0248 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 06:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5KAUR3H011245; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:30:33 +1000 Subject: Re: F-Spot plug-ins From: Bengt Thuree To: Stephane Delcroix In-Reply-To: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> References: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:30:26 +1000 Message-Id: <1150799426.5458.0.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.531 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.531 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:31:48 -0000 On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 09:16 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm quite proud to give you this patch, adding support for loading > plug-ins into F-Spot. I'll submit it to b.g.o. soon. > > For now, all Plugins in all .dll in $HOME/.gnome2/f-spot/plugins are > loaded, but I plan to write another plugin to enable them at will. > > The patch include Thomas's solution to #344534, so you can compile > plug-ins from outside the source tree using: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot MyPlugin.cs > > Find also attached below 2 plugins, one displaying a dialog about > plugins, and a first Export Plug-in, for sending mail (the export code > is just a cut and paste from F-Spot core code). > > Those 2 plugins compile with: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 DialogPlugin.cs > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 SendMailPlugin.cs > > It's a first and very early version, so write a lot of comments about > it... > hier > rgds, > > Stephane Congratulations :) Looks good to me, not the best on plugins though. Would it be easy to add plugins for any part of F-Spot, or only for Export? /Bengt From stephane@delcroix.org Tue Jun 20 07:50:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556F33B078A for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:50:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12349-08 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1703B044D for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:49:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5534 invoked by uid 503); 20 Jun 2006 11:50:17 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail15.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 11:50:16 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 11:48:38 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 11:48:34 -0000 Subject: Re: Big Collections/Complex Meta-data/Is F-Spot (going to be) for me? From: Stephane Delcroix To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:48:43 +0200 Message-Id: <1150804124.5909.60.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.139 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.233, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558] X-Spam-Score: -1.139 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:50:00 -0000 Hi, Some of your needs are already work in progress. Check http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338558 for fully-qualified tag uniqueness, it's a strong request but solving it will require re-coding the 'Tag Typing'. Check http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139796 for advanced queries. It's one of the oldest bug request / patch in f-spot. You can CC your email address to follow the discussion about them. I like the idea of displaying more info about the selection (items per tag, ...). You can probably submit a enhancement request in bugzilla and attach a mockup of the UI. As always in F-Spot, the problem is not writing code to solve an issue, it's about writing good code and give the user a nice experience. Thanks for your report, Stephane On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 11:12 +0200, Neilen Marais wrote: > Hi > > I have a pretty big image database (about 12k photos) with fairly > complex meta-data maintained in KPhotoAlbum. I've been eying F-spot for > a while, since it has a very active community, looks pretty and seems > quite nice to use. I'm quite excited by F-spot's ability to handle > picture versions and RAW files. I also prefer GNOME apps all else being > equal. > > KPhotoAlbum is not quite as smooth, but it's interface seems more > "scalable" to me, while F-spot tries (and manages very well) to make > easy stuff easy. I don't think scalable and easy need to be mutually > exclusive though. > > I'll list some features in KPhotoAlbum that I find makes it very useful > for large/complex collections, and why they are useful. Perhaps I can > convince the right people that it may be useful to implement something > similar (if not identical) in F-Spot. > > These comments refer to F-Spot 0.1.11, as shipped with Ubuntu Dapper. > I'll refer to KPhotoAlbum as KP from here on to save typing. > > Separate "Namespaces" > ===================== > > F-spot seems to require the last level of a tag to be unique. Besides > offending my personal sense of logical aesthetics, it also poses > practical problems ;P > > In KP, each top-level tag is called a Category, and the tags within each > Category are completely independent. In my KP database I have a "People" > category for people visible in the photo, and a "Photographer" category > for the person who took the picture. Of course People can also be > Photographers, but usually not at the same time. Also the total number > of photographers aren't the same as the total number of people. > > It's also possible that unrelated tags can coincidentally have the same > name. E.g. if you travel all over the world and meet people from all > over the world, it's not unlikely that some placename in one country may > be the same as someones name in another. > > In fact, identical placenames are quite common. > Places.USA.Alabama.Greenville is not the same as > Places.USA.California.Greenville (see > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cities#Most_common_city_names for > more fun.) One can disambiguate by having Greenville_CA, but I already > told you it's in California, damnit ;) > > Actually this is a problem in KP as well, since it's doesn't do any > hierarchy within a category. It does have membership groups that does > something similar, but that does not solve this problem. > > Membership Groups > ----------------- > > I think F-Spot's hierarchical tags can fill the same need, but I'll > describe them so its clear what I'm talking about. > > I'll use the Places category as an example. Say the location is > "Friendly Bob's House" in Pinelands (the town), Western Cape (the > state), South Africa. In KP I can make the location "South Africa" a > membership group. Then I can assign all the states in South Africa (that > I have in my DB anyway) to this group (e.g. Western Cape, Gauteng, > etc.). Then I make Western Cape another membership group, and assign all > the cities to it (e.g. Pinelands, Cape Town, etc.). I make Pinelands a > membership group, and add "Friendly Bob's house" to it. > > Now I tag the picture with only "Friendly Bob's house". Because of the > membership groups, KP knows the picture also belongs to "Pinelands", > "Western Cape" and "South Africa", and will be found by searches on any > of those 4 locations. > > Of course, Locations.South Africa.Western Cape.Pinelands would do just > as well. It will also be more explicit (good), and if F-Spot supported > it, would be separate from Locations.South Africa.Kwazulu > Natal.Pinelands (which also exists!) > > Default "And" searching > ======================= > > >From reading the list it seems that F-Spot will get more searching > options soon, but IMHO if you can have only one choice, "and" would be > better than "or". I hope that when the more featureful searching comes, > there will be an easy way to make the default "and". > > Restrict Tags when Searching > ============================ > > This kind of goes together with the default "and" searching. KP's main > interface shows you a list of top level tags, along with how many > entries each has. e.g. > > Locations - 10 > People - 6 > > Then you select People -> "Friendly Bob" > > You can then look at all the pictures containing Bob, or keep selecting > search tags. However, all the tags that never occur with Bob are > removed, e.g. > > Locations - 4 > People - 3 > > I.o.w. you see only the Locations that Bob's been photographed at and > only the people that have been photographed with Bob. > > Now select Locations -> "Friendly Bob's House", > > and look at the pictures of Bob at his house, or continue: > > Locations (greyed out, since there are no others) > People - 2 > > Then you could choose to look at pictures of Bob with his wife, or Bob > with his son. > > I like this feature for two reasons. > > 1) If you're and-searching, there's no point in seeing the tags that > will result in no pictures being found. > 2) Its nice to see, for instance, how many people you have photographed > at a certain location. > > Scalable Tag Selection > ====================== > > It's hard to compare KP directly to F-Spot here, since the > interface paradigms are quite different, so I'll just sketch my problem. > In KP I have 9 Categories (i.e. top level tags), and some of them have > many subtags. E.g. > > Events - 143 > Keywords - 21 > Locations - 237 > Persons - 203 > Photographer - 33 > > I've only had a camera for about two years, but found I like both > photography and detailed tagging. I'm sure these numbers will have grown > considerably in 10 years time! > > I will always have at least one tag from each of the 5 categories I > listed here attached to every picture, so it is critical that tags can > be selected from a large selection easily. KP makes the default way of > finding a tag incremental search, and also sorts tags in order of last > use by default. It also manages each category completely separately > which means the 100's of "Persons" tags don't make it hard to pick a tag > from the "Keywords" category. > > While I haven't dealt with that many tags in F-Spot, my feeling is the > tag toolbar/tree on the left of F-Spot will be fairly well suited to > dealing with many tags. Other places, where there are flat lists with > all tag hierarchies exploded, will probably be unpleasant to use. > > What I'd need to switch > ======================= > > Like you care ;P Anyway, my needs in order of priority are > > 1) "Fully qualified" tag uniqueness (i.e. People.A != Places.A) > 2) "And" searching > 3) Tag Restrictions while and-searching > 4) Improved UI for selecting from large numbers of tags > > 1) is completely critical, since I can't losslesly move my current data > into F-Spot without it. > 2) is pretty important. > > 3) and 4) would be nice to have, but not that important. > > If other people think it's a good idea, should I make feature requests > on the F-spot bugzilla, or how should I go ahead? > > Thanks for listening > Neilen > -- Stephane Delcroix stephane@delcroix.org From bengt@thuree.com Tue Jun 20 08:47:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885573B0458 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15956-03 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:47:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.196]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E5F3B0452 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:47:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5KCkoxJ024455; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:46:51 +1000 Subject: Re: IPTC Tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606190501r3cfac1fbp86b66427944c2f81@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> <1150580384.6150.28.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606190501r3cfac1fbp86b66427944c2f81@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:46:50 +1000 Message-Id: <1150807610.5458.5.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.533 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.067, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.533 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:47:59 -0000 Hi I tested it a bit, and F-Spot do read (in MetaData browser) the Keyword field. But none of the others (as I read somewhere on the web, they are not following the standard IPTC standard.) Hopefully, you can still base your patch on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 and get it to work with IPTC files. Check IptcFile.cs also. Good luck. /Bengt From lewing@novell.com Wed Jun 21 10:46:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D453B1035 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13755-02 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:45:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0983B0FD5 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:45:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3202 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2006 14:45:50 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.6.126?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jun 2006 14:45:50 -0000 Subject: Re: Importing photos with tags From: Larry Ewing To: Bengt Thuree In-Reply-To: <1150533952.6150.8.camel@workie.thuree.com> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> <1150533952.6150.8.camel@workie.thuree.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:53:56 -0500 Message-Id: <1150901636.8583.2.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:46:00 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-17 at 18:45 +1000, Bengt Thuree wrote: > > > > Thanks, I'll look into that. I'm really a novice, what I can do is > > extract the IPTC data that the tags are currently in with PHP and then > > produce a text file (be it XML or SQL) to work with. > > > > Dotan Cohen > > > > http://what-is-what.com > > > > Actually, have a look at the JPG file first. > If the tags are stored in IPTC as well as in XMP format, you should be > able to use the patch I wrote to let F-Spot read XMP data. > IViewMedia Pro, were only supposed to store in IPTC as far as I > understood, but they also stored the tags in XMP format. > > Also, I think that F-Spot has prepared to deal with IPTC tags as well. > Have a look and see in IptcFile.cs, and see if you can create a new > patch based on the XMP importer? > > Anyway, gthumb stores its tags in an xml file per photo, so you can take > a look at that patch. > All the metadata formats that f-spot parses it also can convert to XMP, that is how the extended metadata section in the metadata dialog is created. The code could use some polish but it should make normalizing the import code fairly simple. As a side note, it would be good if the gthumb parsing code could convert to XMP as well. --Larry From lewing@novell.com Wed Jun 21 10:51:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B772A3B0FA3 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14185-06 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43713B0EB3 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:51:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3228 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2006 14:51:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.6.126?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jun 2006 14:51:21 -0000 Subject: Re: plugin support for F-Spot From: Larry Ewing To: Stephane Delcroix In-Reply-To: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> References: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:59:31 -0500 Message-Id: <1150901971.8583.8.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.465 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.066, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.465 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:51:28 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 16:20 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Hi list, > > I've spend some time lately to develop a plugin facility for F-Spot. So > far, I've a virtual plugin class, some methods to load plugins, and a > testplugin. Thanks to Thomas and his solution to bug #344534, I've also > a way to compile plugins without the F-Spot sources. > > The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as > many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to > my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my > guess), but some people need this. > Sounds great. Import, export, editing, file format, metadata and sychronization are all possible plug-in entry points. The ImageFile code is meant to be trivially converted into a plugable system. The main issue with export as a plug in is dealing with the ui a sane way that avoids the gimp giant menu trap but also isn't too limiting on what sort of UI the plug-in can present to the user. I've given it a fair amount of thought, I'll try to write down what I've come up with in the next couple of days as i prepare for guadec. --Larry From bengt@thuree.com Wed Jun 21 18:22:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17AD3B00E4 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09445-06 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:22:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DEC3B03ED for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:21:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5LMLnqs031828; Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:21:50 +1000 Subject: Re: Importing photos with tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Larry Ewing In-Reply-To: <1150901636.8583.2.camel@blue.site> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> <1150533952.6150.8.camel@workie.thuree.com> <1150901636.8583.2.camel@blue.site> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:21:49 +1000 Message-Id: <1150928510.5385.9.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.534 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.066, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.534 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 22:22:17 -0000 On Wed, 2006-06-21 at 09:53 -0500, Larry Ewing wrote: > All the metadata formats that f-spot parses it also can convert to XMP, > that is how the extended metadata section in the metadata dialog is > created. The code could use some polish but it should make normalizing > the import code fairly simple. As a side note, it would be good if the > gthumb parsing code could convert to XMP as well. Convert to XMP? The gthumb as well as XMP parsing code, simply finds the tags, and then creates them the normal way with including storing them embedded inside the photo. Or did I miss something? > needs_commit |= gthumb.Import (photo, orig_path); > if (needs_commit) > store.Commit (photo); > /Bengt From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 23 13:39:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69EF3B04C1 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:39:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28028-07 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:39:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0C13B0813 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:39:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1216488uge for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.151.3 with SMTP id y3mr1393310hud; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606231039s39eadf04h3ab13415f0e8d48e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:39:24 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Accessing tags with PHP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.21 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.390, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.21 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:39:28 -0000 I have set up f-spot to store the tags in the picture files themselves. How can I access these tags with PHP? I do know how to access IPTC tags with PHP but not the tags that f-spot uses. A simple working code example would be very, very much appreciated. Also, are the tags UTF-8? If not, what charset are they? This is the code that I use to access IPTC: "; print "People: ".$iptc["2#118"][0]."
"; print "Place: ".$iptc["2#027"][0]."
"; print "Event: ".$iptc["2#105"][0]."
"; print "Date: ".$iptc["2#055"][0]."
"; print "Time: ".$iptc["2#060"][0]."
"; ?> Note that the IPTC tags used here are not to standard, they are as per the excellent windows software BrilliantPhoto. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com From ruben@Lambda1.be Fri Jun 23 17:13:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280F73B06F5 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:13:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05460-02 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:13:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oola.is.scarlet.be (oola.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.23]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EE93B0847 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:13:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ([62.235.141.211]) by oola.is.scarlet.be with ESMTP id k5NLDoA04650; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:13:50 +0200 Received: by localhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C1005460466; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:13:49 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Accessing tags with PHP From: Ruben Vermeersch To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606231039s39eadf04h3ab13415f0e8d48e@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606231039s39eadf04h3ab13415f0e8d48e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:13:47 +0200 Message-Id: <1151097227.14599.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: oola 2020; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.59 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.59 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 21:13:56 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 20:39 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I have set up f-spot to store the tags in the picture files > themselves. How can I access these tags with PHP? I do know how to > access IPTC tags with PHP but not the tags that f-spot uses. A simple > working code example would be very, very much appreciated. > > Also, are the tags UTF-8? If not, what charset are they? > > This is the code that I use to access IPTC: > $size = GetImageSize ("/path/to/pic.jpg", &$info); > $iptc = iptcparse($info["APP13"]); > > print "Keywords: ".$iptc["2#025"][0]."
"; > print "People: ".$iptc["2#118"][0]."
"; > print "Place: ".$iptc["2#027"][0]."
"; > print "Event: ".$iptc["2#105"][0]."
"; > print "Date: ".$iptc["2#055"][0]."
"; > print "Time: ".$iptc["2#060"][0]."
"; > ?> > > Note that the IPTC tags used here are not to standard, they are as per > the excellent windows software BrilliantPhoto. As far as I know, f-spot stores tags in XMP metadata, so you'll have to extract it from XMP, not IPTC (but I could be wrong). Kind regards, Ruben Vermeersch -- Ruben Vermeersch (rubenv) http://www.Lambda1.be/ From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 23 18:04:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C69C3B0927 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:04:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07514-05 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:04:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1AC3B0905 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:04:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so59320uge for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.178.5 with SMTP id a5mr1448914huf; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606231504n399728ddh4fd14ca2404c998@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 01:04:07 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: "Ruben Vermeersch" Subject: Re: Accessing tags with PHP In-Reply-To: <1151097227.14599.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <880dece00606231039s39eadf04h3ab13415f0e8d48e@mail.gmail.com> <1151097227.14599.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.288 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.312, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.288 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:04:10 -0000 On 24/06/06, Ruben Vermeersch wrote: > On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 20:39 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I have set up f-spot to store the tags in the picture files > > themselves. How can I access these tags with PHP? I do know how to > > access IPTC tags with PHP but not the tags that f-spot uses. A simple > > working code example would be very, very much appreciated. > > > > Also, are the tags UTF-8? If not, what charset are they? > > > > This is the code that I use to access IPTC: > > > $size = GetImageSize ("/path/to/pic.jpg", &$info); > > $iptc = iptcparse($info["APP13"]); > > > > print "Keywords: ".$iptc["2#025"][0]."
"; > > print "People: ".$iptc["2#118"][0]."
"; > > print "Place: ".$iptc["2#027"][0]."
"; > > print "Event: ".$iptc["2#105"][0]."
"; > > print "Date: ".$iptc["2#055"][0]."
"; > > print "Time: ".$iptc["2#060"][0]."
"; > > ?> > > > > Note that the IPTC tags used here are not to standard, they are as per > > the excellent windows software BrilliantPhoto. > > As far as I know, f-spot stores tags in XMP metadata, so you'll have to > extract it from XMP, not IPTC (but I could be wrong). > > Kind regards, > Ruben Vermeersch > Thanks, that was clear to me. I have since found this: http://www.ozhiker.com/electronics/pjmt/library/list_contents.php4?show_fn=XMP.php But I have yet to put together working code. I'll play with ti a bit this week, but if anybody has a wheel that I don't need to reinvent, I'd appreciate seeing it. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://gmail-com.com From mailmarkh@googlemail.com Sat Jun 24 06:07:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 586A73B0146 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:07:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05863-08 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.199]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183BD3B01DC for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id t5so236733wxc for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 03:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.38.3 with SMTP id l3mr6022830wxl; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 03:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.59.10 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 03:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:07:39 +0100 From: "Mark Howard" Sender: mailmarkh@googlemail.com To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Import from disk and auto-tag MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 343ccbe359cdc39a X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:07:41 -0000 Hi, I have a large collection of photos organised on disk by directory structure. I would like f-spot to import these and automatically tag each photo based on the directory that it's in. There doesn't seem to be any gui tool for this (without specifying each directory and tag separately, which is not an option for such a large collection). Is there any other way to do this? Perhaps some (hidden) way of specifying a tag when using f-spot --import , so that I could write a simple script to do it? Many thanks in advance for any comments. Sorry if this has been asked before - I couldn't find anything through google and the mailing list search is currently broken. Mark Howard From bengt@thuree.com Sat Jun 24 06:56:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8B73B00D4 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:56:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08180-08 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:56:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C393B013A for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:56:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5OAuI9Z014916; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:56:19 +1000 Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag From: Bengt Thuree To: Mark Howard In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:56:19 +1000 Message-Id: <1151146579.13629.3.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.535 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.535 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:56:24 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 11:07 +0100, Mark Howard wrote: > Hi, > > I have a large collection of photos organised on disk by directory > structure. I would like f-spot to import these and automatically tag > each photo based on the directory that it's in. There doesn't seem to > be any gui tool for this (without specifying each directory and tag > separately, which is not an option for such a large collection). Is > there any other way to do this? Perhaps some (hidden) way of > specifying a tag when using f-spot --import , so that I could > write a simple script to do it? > > Many thanks in advance for any comments. Sorry if this has been asked > before - I couldn't find anything through google and the mailing list > search is currently broken. Sorry, but currently F-Spot do not support this. Please see bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344426 in bugzilla for a similar enhancement request. /Bengt From andreas.henden@vice-chairman.net Sat Jun 24 10:40:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3EF23B06FA for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:40:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19727-03 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gordons.ginandtonic.no (gordons.ginandtonic.no [195.159.29.69]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA973B0490 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host-81-191-129-68.bluecom.no ([81.191.129.68] helo=skrue.andeby) by gordons.ginandtonic.no with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1Fu9Io-0002Gv-71 for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:40:02 +0200 Subject: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg From: Andreas Henden To: f-spot-list Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:39:32 +0200 Message-Id: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.72 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.744, BAYES_05=-1.11, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -1.72 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:40:09 -0000 Hi I want sometimes to convert some of my cr2 files into jpg for sending by mail or something like that. I have used gimp but I can't seem to get so nice colors with gimp that is the default setting in f-spot. So I'm asking for two things. Will there be any function for converting from cr2 too jpg and or is there any way to get the same result with any command line tool or any other tool with not too much effort! -- Andreas Henden From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Sat Jun 24 10:44:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8283B07F1 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19693-10 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:44:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.195]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE393B0490 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:44:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i1so1389294nzh for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.148.4 with SMTP id v4mr1106859qbd; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f14sm166591qba.2006.06.24.07.44.05; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 07:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:44:10 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.461 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.138, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_XM=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.461 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:44:08 -0000 Mark Howard wrote: > Hi, > > I have a large collection of photos organised on disk by directory > structure. I would like f-spot to import these and automatically tag > each photo based on the directory that it's in. There doesn't seem to > be any gui tool for this (without specifying each directory and tag > separately, which is not an option for such a large collection). Is > there any other way to do this? Perhaps some (hidden) way of > specifying a tag when using f-spot --import , so that I could > write a simple script to do it? There's no mechanism to do this automatically - however, there are some patches for bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 that will make this relatively easy --- the patch I submitted against the bug will take simple xmp-like "sidecar" files at import and create tags for them. Basically you need to write a script that creates for every file foo.jpg, a file called foo.jpg.xmp - the contents should look like this: Tag 1 Tag 2 ... Tag N Then with my patch, when you do the import, the tags will be created (if necessary), and attached to each photo appropriately. Hope this helps. Warren From brian@brianpuccio.net Sat Jun 24 11:28:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDFF3B03C2 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:28:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22438-02 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:28:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server1.digitalrhapsody.com (server1.digitalrhapsody.com [204.15.133.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E3F3B08B4 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.13] (ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net [69.122.156.56]) by server1.digitalrhapsody.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1109BB7E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) In-Reply-To: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-2-1057010543" Message-Id: <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Brian Puccio Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:28:22 -0400 To: f-spot-list X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:28:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --Apple-Mail-2-1057010543 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Jun 24, 2006, at 10:39 AM, Andreas Henden wrote: > > I want sometimes to convert some of my cr2 files into jpg for > sending by > mail or something like that. I have used gimp but I can't seem to > get so > nice colors with gimp that is the default setting in f-spot. So I'm > asking for two things. Will there be any function for converting from > cr2 too jpg and or is there any way to get the same result with any > command line tool or any other tool with not too much effort! Look into tools like ufraw (it has a batch commandline mode) and dcraw (upon which ufraw is based) --Apple-Mail-2-1057010543 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQFEnVoW/FtTOrvSQB8RAnG9AJ0Wb432u5t30Lix+zC/slAr2o0TiQCfdN08 IHM6Bae6FzdD4L8k1WAliYc= =ztTX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-2-1057010543-- From andreas.henden@vice-chairman.net Sat Jun 24 12:37:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F973B01DC for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:37:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25834-01 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gordons.ginandtonic.no (gordons.ginandtonic.no [195.159.29.69]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC79B3B017E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host-81-191-129-68.bluecom.no ([81.191.129.68] helo=skrue.andeby) by gordons.ginandtonic.no with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1FuB8K-0002fs-9T; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:37:20 +0200 Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg From: Andreas Henden To: Brian Puccio In-Reply-To: <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:36:51 +0200 Message-Id: <1151167012.6113.12.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.417 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.047, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.417 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:37:45 -0000 the thing is that the default colors in f-spot is much nicer than with ufraw. On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 11:28 -0400, Brian Puccio wrote: > On Jun 24, 2006, at 10:39 AM, Andreas Henden wrote: > > > > I want sometimes to convert some of my cr2 files into jpg for > > sending by > > mail or something like that. I have used gimp but I can't seem to > > get so > > nice colors with gimp that is the default setting in f-spot. So I'm > > asking for two things. Will there be any function for converting from > > cr2 too jpg and or is there any way to get the same result with any > > command line tool or any other tool with not too much effort! > > Look into tools like ufraw (it has a batch commandline mode) and > dcraw (upon which ufraw is based) > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list -- Andreas Henden From gcgaf-f-spot-list@m.gmane.org Sat Jun 24 12:47:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982883B01DC for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:47:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26123-03 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9BA3B006E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FuBH9-0003mU-Px for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:27 +0200 Received: from p54b382b3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.179.130.179]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:27 +0200 Received: from cs_teawbdifws_001 by p54b382b3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:27 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Carsten Schurig Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:33 +0200 Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> <1151167012.6113.12.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54b382b3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060111) In-Reply-To: <1151167012.6113.12.camel@skrue.andeby> Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.216 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.094, BAYES_00=-2.599, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS=0.291, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.216 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:47:06 -0000 Andreas Henden schrieb: > the thing is that the default colors in f-spot is much nicer than with > ufraw. That's more an issue with the settings you choose in ufraw. I think f-spot just displays the embedded preview of the CR2 which was created by the cam. If you'd choose the same parameters in ufraw as the cam used, the results should be almost identical (but for the internal sharpening, which ufraw doesn't do). But I aggree it would be nice to have RAW->JPEG conversion better integrated into f-spot. I'd esp. like to have the resulting JPEG/PNG/whatever as a version of the RAW. Currently I add the resulting JPEG to f-spot and get an extra file this way... (But I'd still like to use an external tool as I think about purchasing bibble.) Just my 2¢, Carsten -- God's Final Message to His Creation: "We apologize for the inconvenience." (Douglas Adams: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish) From andreas.henden@vice-chairman.net Sat Jun 24 12:53:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDA23B01BE for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:53:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26384-06 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gordons.ginandtonic.no (gordons.ginandtonic.no [195.159.29.69]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB4F3B017E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host-81-191-129-68.bluecom.no ([81.191.129.68] helo=skrue.andeby) by gordons.ginandtonic.no with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1FuBNe-0002j2-0L for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:53:10 +0200 Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg From: Andreas Henden To: f-spot-list In-Reply-To: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:52:41 +0200 Message-Id: <1151167961.6113.14.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.433 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.031, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.433 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:53:49 -0000 hmm, why did I write saveing. It is of course saving.... On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 16:39 +0200, Andreas Henden wrote: > Hi > > I want sometimes to convert some of my cr2 files into jpg for sending by > mail or something like that. I have used gimp but I can't seem to get so > nice colors with gimp that is the default setting in f-spot. So I'm > asking for two things. Will there be any function for converting from > cr2 too jpg and or is there any way to get the same result with any > command line tool or any other tool with not too much effort! > > -- Andreas Henden From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Mon Jun 26 01:11:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10FA93B00A9 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:11:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22744-06 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:11:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9AA3B010B for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:11:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c29so856906nfb for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.223.13 with SMTP id v13mr4531484nfg; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C1E126.access.telenet.be ( [84.193.225.38]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l38sm2331799nfc.2006.06.25.22.10.59; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Good luck From: Thomas Van Machelen To: f-spot Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:10:59 +0200 Message-Id: <1151298659.5102.4.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.174 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.226, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.174 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 05:11:04 -0000 Hi Larry, Good luck this afternoon with the f-spot talk. I think we're all eager to hear about how well you did ;-) Best Regards, Thomas From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Mon Jun 26 09:29:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38EE3B0369 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20838-07 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F76C3B017B for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:29:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so826232uge for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.244.10 with SMTP id r10mr4973148ugh; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606260629g326d3cfem9ce1503749d57f38@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:29:13 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg In-Reply-To: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.765 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.635, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.765 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:29:16 -0000 On 6/24/06, Andreas Henden wrote: > the thing is that the default colors in f-spot is much nicer than with > ufraw. Which means that you need to setup UFRaw properly :) Consider this: white balance presets, base curve, gamma and linearity, color matrix on/off, input ICC-profile. Alexandre From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Mon Jun 26 09:30:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33D13B035F for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20890-09 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A2A3B009A for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so826983uge for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.8 with SMTP id d8mr4976101ugm; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606260630g69b5775fhfb6b3054cc383e33@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:30:43 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> <1151167012.6113.12.camel@skrue.andeby> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.828 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.572, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.828 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:30:46 -0000 On 6/24/06, Carsten Schurig wrote: > Currently I add the resulting JPEG to f-spot and get an extra file > this way... (But I'd still like to > use an external tool as I think about purchasing bibble.) Which means that we need a possibility to make a file a version of another one. Alexandre From andreas.henden@vice-chairman.net Mon Jun 26 13:22:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345F23B0330 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:22:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03046-01 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:22:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gordons.ginandtonic.no (gordons.ginandtonic.no [195.159.29.69]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE853B036C for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:22:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host-81-191-129-68.bluecom.no ([81.191.129.68] helo=skrue.andeby) by gordons.ginandtonic.no with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1FuunL-0004o4-3l; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:22:43 +0200 Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg From: Andreas Henden To: Alexandre Prokoudine In-Reply-To: <733f2c730606260629g326d3cfem9ce1503749d57f38@mail.gmail.com> References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <733f2c730606260629g326d3cfem9ce1503749d57f38@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:22:12 +0200 Message-Id: <1151342532.6611.3.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.441 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.023, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.441 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:22:59 -0000 On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 17:29 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On 6/24/06, Andreas Henden wrote: > > the thing is that the default colors in f-spot is much nicer than with > > ufraw. > > Which means that you need to setup UFRaw properly :) > > Consider this: white balance presets, base curve, gamma and linearity, > color matrix on/off, input ICC-profile. Things got much better after I got the right input profile. The hard part is setting up UFRaw porperly. Does f-spot calculate any values or does it use pre defined values? > > Alexandre > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > -- Andreas Henden From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Mon Jun 26 14:10:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80ACE3B036C for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:10:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06066-03 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:10:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2DC3B0161 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:10:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so960928uge for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.89.5 with SMTP id r5mr5228121ugl; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606261110s2ddc8f01qffeeb29bdc2feafe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:10:08 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg In-Reply-To: <1151342532.6611.3.camel@skrue.andeby> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <733f2c730606260629g326d3cfem9ce1503749d57f38@mail.gmail.com> <1151342532.6611.3.camel@skrue.andeby> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.881 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.519, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.881 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:10:11 -0000 On 6/26/06, Andreas Henden wrote: > Things got much better after I got the right input profile. The hard > part is setting up UFRaw porperly. Does f-spot calculate any values or > does it use pre defined values? It loads JPEG preview from Makernote area (if I'm not mistaken), so no calculation whatsoever for now :) Larry said before, that RAW processing has very high priority in his todo list, one of highest. Alexandre From nmarais@snowisp.com Mon Jun 26 16:11:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA24E3B00AB for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12499-06 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:11:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ctb-mesg8.saix.net (ctb-mesg8.saix.net [196.25.240.78]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE0A3B01DC for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from office.snowballeffect.net (dsl-146-194-202.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.194.202]) by ctb-mesg8.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303373184 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:11:00 +0200 (SAST) Received: (qmail 4114 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2006 00:50:09 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.20.130.19?) (10.20.130.19) by 192.168.20.58 with (RC4-MD5 encrypted) SMTP; 27 Jun 2006 00:50:09 +0200 Subject: Re: Big Collections/Complex Meta-data/Is F-Spot (going to be) for me? From: Neilen Marais To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1150804124.5909.60.camel@localhost> References: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1150804124.5909.60.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:10:51 +0200 Message-Id: <1151352651.18919.121.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:11:12 -0000 Hi Stephane On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 13:48 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > You can CC your email address to follow the discussion about them. Will do, thanks. > I like the idea of displaying more info about the selection (items per > tag, ...). You can probably submit a enhancement request in bugzilla and > attach a mockup of the UI. I'll see if I can come up with something... > As always in F-Spot, the problem is not > writing code to solve an issue, it's about writing good code and give > the user a nice experience. Yes, it shows. That's no doubt why F-Spot seems so nice to use :) Regards Neilen From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Tue Jun 27 07:43:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24823B00B3 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:43:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26554-06 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:42:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A3A3B00AB for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:42:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1304318uge for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.243.2 with SMTP id q2mr5970204ugh; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606270442j1be3d318mcea026affb62bb86@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:42:28 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <15179.194.237.142.21.1150786953.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <15179.194.237.142.21.1150786953.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.92 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.480, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.92 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:43:01 -0000 On 6/20/06, Bengt Thuree wrote: > To have the same material in many places will just cause a lot of > problems. On the other hand, having reviews of F-Spot, or links to F-Spot > in many places would be very nice. So, do we create new FAQ page and add it to the menu and grant Jordan rights to edit it? Alexandre From drberg1000@gmail.com Thu Jun 1 16:52:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958A93B0F4A for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:52:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06048-01 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:52:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hu-out-0102.google.com (hu-out-0102.google.com [72.14.214.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3787B3B0ED4 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:52:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by hu-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 34so247599hud for ; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=NEGjo8B1W4NOeZWtu5DW/YakZNml0x/lbol/wmYlvQRwF8F/Pnn7fOGI1ReFkcUpUx/N7cv6Gzz1em5R8EZDrVmlxaAxMKgjCqNHKLTQCUOKO6YFgYWoMcwjqhLliGkH/D6IBiA3/woQRJsvNrBZoEAJdXFx3ARxQyXhMVSp014= Received: by 10.35.76.9 with SMTP id d9mr1612366pyl; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.86.11 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:52:45 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Rotation descriptions X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 20:52:48 -0000 I'm wondering why "Rotate Left" and "Rotate Right" were chosen to describe the commands instead of "Rotate Clockwise" and "Rotate Counterclockwise". The best I can guess is length of the words. If thats the case, here's a little antecdotal feed back on usability. It wasn't until I was half through writing this e-mail that I noticed the small little icons noted which direction the image would be rotated. I am having a difficult time remembering if it is the top of the photo or the bottom of the photo that moves. Personally, I think it would be clearer if a larger arrow and/or Clockwise/Counterclockwise were used. Just my $0.02 --Dave From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Thu Jun 1 18:53:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64483B0061 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:53:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11537-10 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:53:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E693B0072 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:53:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so283419uge for ; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=h05J7wusko7OClEUYg5fXPI0GaXbUNidt/pmzwguU8WHvw+Dm2D0/dTlJXp1XeHpqS8v0I1HiLEafebe2XUTZDctNPvMdpNR8UCHizTUIZd0GNeu8nLqLPegyiUjyRf4on8+C8n/DfyFj92omS7JeF3wwlzRwdpnQVBC9Agax6E= Received: by 10.67.105.19 with SMTP id h19mr207408ugm; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606011553t6fe9beccpa31aea24fab46df9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 02:53:32 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.056 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.056 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Rotation descriptions X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 22:53:37 -0000 On 6/2/06, David Berg wrote: > I'm wondering why "Rotate Left" and "Rotate Right" were chosen to > describe the commands instead of "Rotate Clockwise" and "Rotate > Counterclockwise". The best I can guess is length of the words. If > thats the case, here's a little antecdotal feed back on usability. > > It wasn't until I was half through writing this e-mail that I noticed > the small little icons noted which direction the image would be > rotated. I am having a difficult time remembering if it is the top of > the photo or the bottom of the photo that moves. Personally, I think > it would be clearer if a larger arrow and/or > Clockwise/Counterclockwise were used. Indeed. They are usually cut to Rotate CW and Rotate CCW. And we can still provide hints for menu items to explain what CW/CCW mean for those who doesn't know. Alexandre From stephane@delcroix.org Fri Jun 2 10:07:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24413B1144 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:07:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30984-09 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:07:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 26.mail-out.ovh.net (26.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.42.179]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEAA43B10B6 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:06:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12848 invoked by uid 503); 2 Jun 2006 14:06:59 -0000 Received: (QMFILT: 1.0); 02 Jun 2006 14:06:59 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail44.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 26.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2006 14:06:59 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2006 14:06:50 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2006 14:06:48 -0000 From: Stephane Delcroix To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:08:21 +0200 Message-Id: <1149257301.7904.10.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.951 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.513, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -1.951 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Bug 318376 =?utf-8?b?4oCT?= JPEG saving ignores original quality X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:07:09 -0000 Do not choose default for the user anymore... just try to guess the original compression factor ! I've submitted a patch, based on jpegdump, adding that ability to f-spot. the bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318376 the comment: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318376#c9 the patch: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=66658&action=view Regards, Stephane From drberg1000@gmail.com Fri Jun 2 16:07:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3953B02BE for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:07:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21051-09 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9213B0491 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id x31so1203953pye for ; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:07:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Dd1NExlSLCwENNgvGHiBKyq4GBjy1u9EDTVzZGfr8dRyg0Tfy+CDWxtNTc0+Rce2OCGeqeBhzjtgGYCuSi8LGN9IHypVYY0vEVKspoOxfbn3vIdUixBNiuS36NZcu+jSwtWDdi5ECcmKxlPqQaE/kndLzA2yCnU/IOuS99mGeMs= Received: by 10.35.49.4 with SMTP id b4mr2824500pyk; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.86.11 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 13:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 15:07:51 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.543 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.432, BAYES_05=-1.11, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.543 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 20:07:57 -0000 Is there a way to find photos containing "Tag X" AND "Tag Y" instead of the default OR search? It would be really nice to be able to write more complex queries. --Dave From fred@uh.cu Fri Jun 2 17:06:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0933B006F for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:06:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24674-04 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:06:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from proxy2.uh.cu (proxy2.uh.cu [200.55.139.213]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5123B042A for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:06:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy2.uh.cu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4D12FCEB for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:03:26 -0400 (AST) Received: from comuh.uh.cu (comuh.uh.cu [10.6.100.69]) by proxy2.uh.cu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C192FCE5 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:03:26 -0400 (AST) Received: from comuh (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by comuh.uh.cu (Postfix) with SMTP id 50CBB1680DE for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:58:37 -0400 (CDT) Received: from hogwarts.reduh.uh.cu (hogwarts.reduh.uh.cu [10.6.70.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EXP1024-RC4-SHA (56/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by comuh.uh.cu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337D91680D5 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:58:37 -0400 (CDT) From: Yoanis Gil Delgado Organization: Universidad de la Habana Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:05:48 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary-00=_wgKgEOjcTDYK+xh" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020300 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.923 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.676, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_10_20=1.351, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.923 X-Spam-Level: Subject: My first experiences with f-spot X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 21:06:50 -0000 --Boundary-00=_wgKgEOjcTDYK+xh Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi list!!! . My name is Yoanis Gil Delgado and I'm studying Computers Science at the University of Havana. I want to thanks all of you for this great software. I spent some time classifying my pictures and these are some stuffs i missed: 1-) Multiple picture selection. See 4) 2-) Undo actions. Note i mean "action" and not a "picture editing action". A very common mistake(for me) is to attach the wrong tag to a picture. I though Ctrl+Z would solve the problem, but it did not worked. 3-) Which tags are associated to a file. I know that in browse mode every image has an overlay set of related tags. But, let says the image "Rose, Joe and Mary.jpg" belongs to 3 categories (Joe,Rose and Mary). Each of these categories are child of the People's category (yes, those are people names). In this example the overlay shows the same icons for the 3 categories(People's tag icon). So there is no way to know the categories names the image belongs at the very first look. Still would like to see, when in browse mode, the categories name in some place. 4-) Tags shorcuts. Use case: Lets say i have 4 main tags 1-) Rose 2-) Joe 3-) Mary 4-) Me and a collection of 100 photos of them. Among those i can find photos from Rose and Joe, Mary and Rose, Joe and Me and so on. In the version i'm using(0.1.11), i needed to make a lot of clicks to classify them. It would be nice if there is a way to assign a shortcut to every tag, so when i can tag images by making clicks. P.D: Sorry for the big talk and i hope i can put some code soon. --Boundary-00=_wgKgEOjcTDYK+xh Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi list!!! . My name is Yoanis Gil Delgado and I'm studying Computers Science at the University of Havana. I want to thanks all of you for this great software.

I spent some time classifying my pictures and these are some stuffs i missed:

1-) Multiple picture selection. See 4)

2-) Undo actions. Note i mean "action" and not a "picture editing action". A very common mistake(for me) is to attach the wrong tag to a picture. I though Ctrl+Z would solve the problem, but it did not worked.

3-) Which tags are associated to a file. I know that in browse mode every image has an overlay set of related tags. But, let says the image "Rose, Joe and Mary.jpg" belongs to 3 categories (Joe,Rose and Mary). Each of these categories are child of the People's category (yes, those are people names). In this example the overlay shows the same icons for the 3 categories(People's tag icon). So there is no way to know the categories names the image belongs at the very first look. Still would like to see, when in browse mode, the categories name in some place.

4-) Tags shorcuts. Use case:

Lets say i have 4 main tags

1-) Rose

2-) Joe

3-) Mary

4-) Me

and a collection of 100 photos of them. Among those i can find photos from Rose and Joe, Mary and Rose, Joe and Me and so on. In the version i'm using(0.1.11), i needed to make a lot of clicks to classify them. It would be nice if there is a way to assign a shortcut to every tag, so when i can tag images by making clicks.

P.D: Sorry for the big talk and i hope i can put some code soon.

--Boundary-00=_wgKgEOjcTDYK+xh-- From m.j.hutchinson@gmail.com Fri Jun 2 19:40:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37803B11CC for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:40:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31640-09 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:40:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6263B047B for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:40:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l37so1214960nfc for ; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:40:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iiVu5uNrvJwp3bSGHpJY9ba46wGigTLj4d0CNKf3K9X9qjj7f45EEOk/NXQZkkmcWjP5YcNM016eCNZLvxOhR0kf7shx9vFtXvQBFNaIp6Y/AJDZYQsn6zX/X9lRXAjMGv4zM1lFWDLQ91EZiTPEHIQSPx9zA+FhdFWS+1VP4c4= Received: by 10.49.14.18 with SMTP id r18mr2342590nfi; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.40.5 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 00:40:48 +0100 From: "Michael Hutchinson" To: "Yoanis Gil Delgado" In-Reply-To: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.431 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.169, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.431 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: My first experiences with f-spot X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 23:40:50 -0000 On 6/2/06, Yoanis Gil Delgado wrote: > > 1-) Multiple picture selection. See 4) Use Ctrl+Click to add to the selection, or Shift+Click to select a range. I don't know is this is present in the version you're using, but it's in SVN. > using(0.1.11), i needed to make a lot of clicks to classify them. It would > be nice if there is a way to assign a shortcut to every tag, so when i can > tag images by making clicks. There are two shortcuts here. Hitting 't' will allow you to edit the tags on the selected photo by typing, and this has tab completion and will create new tags if they don't already exist. The other way is to use the right-clcik context menu. This is very useful, as it can be applied to a multiple selection. Michael From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 06:10:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0AF3B0605 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:10:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27673-08 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:10:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C063B0433 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:10:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l37so1263551nfc for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:10:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=QWg9R1s3upux3E3ZVxS8WnCj530RszgrW9kojhh/YwvEMOozpK7yB+76ECSsqqN3Sq+fUMnc7tlCpalOfmWoyMjWItSBMcv0VX7PkMp+G1R6b4+7EUf/rQRUUgwtfvrkhA7JhkOhuU+jONyXV9lAGw3BsSAUOni818nPjHnI20M= Received: by 10.49.61.17 with SMTP id o17mr2648993nfk; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C1EDBE.access.telenet.be ( [84.193.237.190]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g1sm3276320nfe.2006.06.03.03.10.24; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:10:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: David Berg In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:10:22 +0200 Message-Id: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.213 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.387, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.213 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 10:10:28 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 15:07 -0500, David Berg wrote: > Is there a way to find photos containing "Tag X" AND "Tag Y" instead > of the default OR search? It would be really nice to be able to write > more complex queries. > It is not in current CVS head, but there is a separate branch (F_SPOT_QUERY) that allows you to do more complex queries, among which the one you describe. Regards, Thomas From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 10:46:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14C83B03FF for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 10:46:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10344-02 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 10:46:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.238]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E0A3B0118 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 10:46:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so719730wri for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 07:46:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=kAmiNJHc+odyyiJiIsZi2t7K50yq9Rc5ISUrp6OiqU7WZyQ1LhpACnx5+rGi/Ev/KIW3q+knFN8yPnW5Nc29bQnWbjrIqfBbRiF7KPfbQmUqIrtu8gLlCR/TZUWzsPcTIi7kOw3nADqHVsZMp3wtA/ri4OwGCoBCzakzOTvSEO4= Received: by 10.64.142.19 with SMTP id p19mr2487044qbd; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 07:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e17sm774698qba.2006.06.03.07.46.09; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 07:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4481A0AF.6090401@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 10:46:07 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list References: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 14:46:11 -0000 Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > It is not in current CVS head, but there is a separate branch > (F_SPOT_QUERY) that allows you to do more complex queries, among which > the one you describe. Speaking of which - does anyone know what the current status is on getting that merged back into head? I really like the complex queries, but as I'm still submitting patches periodically, it's easier to work from head. Anything I can do to accelerate the process? Warren From lewing@novell.com Sat Jun 3 12:17:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A793B0712 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:17:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14666-09 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922623B073B for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13734 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2006 16:17:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Jun 2006 16:17:31 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Warren Baird In-Reply-To: <4481A0AF.6090401@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> References: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> <4481A0AF.6090401@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 11:25:23 -0500 Message-Id: <1149351924.3587.68.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.462 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.063, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.462 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list Subject: Re: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 16:17:33 -0000 I hoping to start merging things into head starting sometime this coming week after I get a chance to look over everything that has stacked up. Hopefully the query branch will follow soon after that. Thanks to everyone who has been reviewing and submitting patches, it has been great to see so much activity. --Larry On Sat, 2006-06-03 at 10:46 -0400, Warren Baird wrote: > Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > It is not in current CVS head, but there is a separate branch > > (F_SPOT_QUERY) that allows you to do more complex queries, among which > > the one you describe. > > Speaking of which - does anyone know what the current status is on > getting that merged back into head? I really like the complex queries, > but as I'm still submitting patches periodically, it's easier to work > from head. > > Anything I can do to accelerate the process? > > Warren > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list From sebwrede@googlemail.com Sat Jun 3 06:56:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F683B04A9 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:56:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29573-07 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:56:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD283B0614 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l37so1267637nfc for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:56:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=googlemail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=qkX8H0Sn8uyrgknDvJ4t+5BdAHoAaMxiaMgSHcX92vQBj23tpxzDTa63SDFN9gSnyyfil5p774LWHD47kvBBQvmE+WJerUegmaptcBFcbPm08mwJOg8npnuHgXeJPjVkcvHNeNY7hSfuiT7JZKO4HvY+Z/NUfxVfi2x2FBuaObA= Received: by 10.48.221.15 with SMTP id t15mr641087nfg; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ( [84.61.8.82]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1sm3283429nfe.2006.06.03.03.56.11; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:56:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Sebastian Wrede To: Thomas Van Machelen In-Reply-To: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> References: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:56:09 +0200 Message-Id: <1149332169.9401.14.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:30:23 -0400 Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 10:56:15 -0000 Dear Thomas, dear F-Spot-Developers, First of all, I'd like to congratulate all of you to the great software you developed so far! F-Spot is really cool and very competitive compared to other tools in that area. As David and Thomas brought the topic up, I would like to ask a question that puzzles me frequently... Why does the F-Spot query patch not get integrated into the main branch? IMHO it provides already a really useful improvement over the existing query features. Do you have separate plans for an enhancement of the query functionality or are there other issues with it? Best regards, Sebastian Am Samstag, den 03.06.2006, 12:10 +0200 schrieb Thomas Van Machelen: > It is not in current CVS head, but there is a separate branch > (F_SPOT_QUERY) that allows you to do more complex queries, among which > the one you describe. > > Regards, > Thomas > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From lewing@novell.com Sat Jun 3 12:37:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199283B05AE for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:37:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15977-01 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE4A3B02FE for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:37:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13743 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2006 16:37:04 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Jun 2006 16:37:04 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Stephane Delcroix In-Reply-To: <1149257301.7904.10.camel@localhost> References: <1149257301.7904.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 11:45:07 -0500 Message-Id: <1149353107.3587.74.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.462 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.063, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.462 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Bug 318376 =?windows-1251?q?=96?= JPEG saving ignores original quality X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 16:37:07 -0000 I've only scanned the patch so far, but it makes me wonder how much of the jpegdump code is actually used for the quality guessing. F-Spot already includes code to handle marker parsing and it might make sense to just extract the portion that scans coefficients and integrate it with the other code. --Larry On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 16:08 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Do not choose default for the user anymore... just try to guess the > original compression factor ! > > I've submitted a patch, based on jpegdump, adding that ability to > f-spot. > > the bug: > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318376 > > the comment: > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318376#c9 > > the patch: > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=66658&action=view > > > Regards, > > Stephane > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list From gabriel.burt@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 20:51:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5B03B0383 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:51:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06189-06 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53A93B0317 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i3so763046wra for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:51:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bwnnhpe3zxbYkwmnuaLdPtnuBU7E+tqbOn8u4aSS9ikcTy1fIg+gu1eH7IvIxj7WXHT3eLK6zu0/LxJg6u3NVHSktwOeoz4AAnPFO63hdep/HQLF4cX7CyRndTFqqNJzY3kUOb2/Y2NiTLrpaNch6ctE/VMPzKjfiZtxo2JIFbs= Received: by 10.54.140.8 with SMTP id n8mr936028wrd; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.105.3 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 17:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <24348e0606031751j481b5d84xb82ca4926b5bf9f5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 19:51:10 -0500 From: "Gabriel Burt" To: "Tys von Gaza" In-Reply-To: <7749526e0605021653p37309326vacde825683cf432@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <7749526e0605021653p37309326vacde825683cf432@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.338 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.262, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.338 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem make installing X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 00:51:13 -0000 On 5/2/06, Tys von Gaza wrote: > I've got f-spot compling on ubuntu dapper but am running into the > following problem when running make install, any suggestions? > > Making install in po > make[1]: Entering directory `/home/tys/src/fspotcvs/f-spot/po' > make[1]: install_sh@: Command not found > make[1]: *** [install-data-yes] Error 127 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tys/src/fspotcvs/f-spot/po' > make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 Try doing sudo apt-get install build-essential Gabriel From gabriel.burt@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 20:52:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DF63B0383 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:52:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06566-03 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:52:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E7B3B00DF for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i3so763172wra for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:52:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ugI1/Z7LNnoQMDtF2kdSmXmMVm56AhNLgrA4LB0xrsEnFRfpv4ewoCJlfMqN2Nclg73MU3k8Cf7jx4ZZ9VEErdu4muS14jO5GPn6/sKu319m3lWobB5tvdt7bPBtTcyrCW9GSih+ZOqPw0Sveba/zPh2vGVZhMMJWik0rnE+8IE= Received: by 10.54.93.11 with SMTP id q11mr3486370wrb; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.105.3 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 17:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <24348e0606031752x550d2501g79bb93087d6726d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 19:52:41 -0500 From: "Gabriel Burt" To: "Frank Henderson" In-Reply-To: <4457837B.90604@twcny.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4457837B.90604@twcny.rr.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.351 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.249, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.351 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Uploading photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 00:52:43 -0000 On 5/2/06, Frank Henderson wrote: > Anybody got a suggestion as to why photos I send via email to individual > recipients don't arrive? Perhaps it's a problem with your mail client? Have you tried sending them to an address you can check to make sure it's not their client or misunderstanding? Gabriel From gabriel.burt@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 21:03:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724F83B0108 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 21:03:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06740-08 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 21:03:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.233]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65423B00DF for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 21:03:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i3so763886wra for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:03:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Eo9Ve9yzd40CCVkDG4O8wQzGTrLfLKFdm5rZI6NYOVXBck0rP0NBdB/66gqCwngfBCgX1/XmlCBcbBcomq5Gzy+hUWIngpPM7mW7r6SitB8eNKM4cXCFhOeoFrQ7vFqL6fnCYQ/KcHEq604MkA6lldOQh5oXuVFKTeMv4FH/Y1w= Received: by 10.54.80.16 with SMTP id d16mr3050549wrb; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.105.3 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 18:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <24348e0606031803h6493b93cof1a74f182c4b3fb8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:03:34 -0500 From: "Gabriel Burt" To: "Yoanis Gil Delgado" In-Reply-To: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.363 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.237, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.363 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: My first experiences with f-spot X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 01:03:39 -0000 On 6/2/06, Yoanis Gil Delgado wrote: > 2-) Undo actions. Note i mean "action" and not a "picture editing action". A > very common mistake(for me) is to attach the wrong tag to a picture. I > though Ctrl+Z would solve the problem, but it did not worked. Please file an enhancement bug report for this. > 3-) Which tags are associated to a file. I know that in browse mode every > image has an overlay set of related tags. But, let says the image "Rose, Joe > and Mary.jpg" belongs to 3 categories (Joe,Rose and Mary). Each of these > categories are child of the People's category (yes, those are people names). > In this example the overlay shows the same icons for the 3 > categories(People's tag icon). So there is no way to know the categories > names the image belongs at the very first look. Still would like to see, > when in browse mode, the categories name in some place. I believe the icon related portion of this bug has been reported at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332584 - though the naming part isn't. It is simple to pop up labels for the tags shown in Edit mode, but it is more difficult for Browse mode because the icons aren't drawn as separate widgets but onto a common canvas (I believe). This part of the issue probably has been reported in some other bug, though I'm not sure. Thanks for the ideas, they are appreciated. Gabriel From mercen@mercen.org Sun Jun 4 05:37:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1540B3B013C for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 05:37:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08301-08 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 05:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (smtp4-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.30]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49CAB3B00BD for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 05:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pu-erh (lns-bzn-26-82-254-105-206.adsl.proxad.net [82.254.105.206]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999E8547E8 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 11:37:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mercen by pu-erh with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Fmp3u-00072T-Qr for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 11:38:22 +0200 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 11:38:22 +0200 From: Thomas Paris To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060604093822.GD23532@pu-erh> Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org References: <1142363109.12790.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1142368032.8661.127.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1142631005.12801.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1148508089.13380.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1148508089.13380.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Compare photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 09:37:40 -0000 Hi James, Thanks for working on this feature. I've just given your patch a very quick try and I think, once it's ready, I'm gonna love it. On Wed May 24 at 23:01 (+0100), you wrote: > To use the compare view select two (or more) photos in icon view then > select the new full screen view icon (I'm not to sure how to make a new > icon just yet) with the "Compare photos" tip. Do we really need a new mode? Can't comparison be a special case of Edit? What I'm trying to say is that I believe it would be good enough to have only one button to go to both "normal" Edit Mode (EM) and Compare View (CV). If only one picture is selected then go to EM. If several have been selected then go to CV. How does that sound? Or maybe have Edit Mode itself be used for comparison? You might have guessed I don't like the demultiplication of modes and views ;) > Finally - is this even useful? Sure is! Thanks again for your work! Thomas PARIS -- http://mercen.org <- news http://mercen.org/gallery <- photos From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 4 09:35:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6EB3B0155 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:35:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19867-03 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F273B009F for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:35:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k54DZ9EH010655 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 4 Jun 2006 23:35:09 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: Tys von Gaza In-Reply-To: <7749526e0605021653p37309326vacde825683cf432@mail.gmail.com> References: <7749526e0605021653p37309326vacde825683cf432@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 23:35:11 +1000 Message-Id: <1149428112.10029.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem make installing X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 13:35:15 -0000 On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 17:53 -0600, Tys von Gaza wrote: > I've got f-spot compling on ubuntu dapper but am running into the > following problem when running make install, any suggestions? > > Making install in po > make[1]: Entering directory `/home/tys/src/fspotcvs/f-spot/po' > make[1]: install_sh@: Command not found > make[1]: *** [install-data-yes] Error 127 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tys/src/fspotcvs/f-spot/po' > make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 > _______________________________________________ I never managed to figure out the reason for this, but the quick and dirty workaround (which needs to be re-applied every now and then), is to add the absolut path to install-sh in po/Makefile. In my case install_sh = /home/bengt/CVS/f-spot/f-spot/install-sh From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Sun Jun 4 20:28:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587BC3B0248 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:28:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21815-04 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:28:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52A43B029E for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:28:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so939442wri for ; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:28:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=PElp/4zEdhyVapmAJRrnypJALSF8r5wF+/xx5V14J6H9PSwSl/35HUvyc+2n8EdgQcfGFfEsDLPmbG29dVNJDWBw8yPlNM5xaOYBLsc++6HNSDsAOFkdzedVrU5XiyafUsrPaz2duJkpYRAVa1+G6qRvfGBiLU2kTDias/xqQ/E= Received: by 10.65.250.16 with SMTP id c16mr3034438qbs; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f13sm1779141qba.2006.06.04.17.28.45; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44837AB9.4070402@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 20:28:41 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Patch for pre-caching Images X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 00:28:48 -0000 Hi all, I've created a patch that enables pre-caching of the 'expected next' item in full-screen mode (and secondarily in 'edit-photo' mode as well). I couldn't find a bug to attach the patch to, so I created a new one: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343856 Basically, with the patch, f-spot tries to guess what image you are going to load next, and loads it in the background - if it completes the background load before you switch to the next image, then it redraws immediately, rather than doing the slow, progressive load thing. I'm interested in feedback on this from other people --- for me, it makes a *huge* difference when viewing images in full-screen mode... Warren From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 5 01:46:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11BC3B04C0 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 01:46:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05459-08 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 01:46:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF383B0297 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 01:46:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k555kZ5D001090 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 15:46:36 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 15:46:41 +1000 Message-Id: <1149486401.7586.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Subject: cannot install `libfspot.la' X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 05:46:41 -0000 Is it only me, or have something changed during the last few days? /Bengt > bengt@jolly:~/CVS/f-spot/f-spot$ ./autogen.sh --prefix=/opt/unstable/f-spot > make all install > > /bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs /opt/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot > /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=install /usr/bin/install -c libfspot.la /opt/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/libfspot.la > libtool: install: error: cannot install `libfspot.la' to a directory not ending in /usr/local/lib/f-spot > make[2]: *** [install-fspotlibLTLIBRARIES] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/bengt/CVS/f-spot/f-spot/libfspot' > make[1]: *** [install-am] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/bengt/CVS/f-spot/f-spot/libfspot' > make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 5 23:09:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665183B0074 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 23:09:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18950-01 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 23:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6AE3B0005 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 23:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5639KSU018437 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 13:09:22 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 13:09:30 +1000 Message-Id: <1149563370.7586.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Another small 2 liner patch (343970) X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 03:09:26 -0000 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343970 Rittyan found a bug where the time in browsemode is in local time, but the time in the info box is in UTC time. >From IRC session I think I found a bug... in our f-spot's browsers photo's date is 6:26 and 6:57... and on sidebar its 2:26 and 2:57... nothing about this "2:26" and "2:57" in metadata browser :< (real time of course is 6am) http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/5682/fspotbug6df.jpg Checking the InfoBox.cs code on row 271 gives: date_label.Text = String.Format ("{0}\n{1}", photo.Time.ToShortDateString (), photo.Time.ToShortTimeString ()); And checking IconView.cs on row 245 gives: if (cell_width > 200) { date = photo.Time.ToLocalTime ().ToString (); } else { date = photo.Time.ToLocalTime ().ToShortDateString (); } The patch I created is as follows: date_label.Text = String.Format ("{0}\n{1}", - photo.Time.ToShortDateString (), - photo.Time.ToShortTimeString ()); + photo.Time.ToLocalTime ().ToShortDateString (), + photo.Time.ToLocalTime ().ToShortTimeString ()); From drberg1000@gmail.com Wed Jun 7 13:33:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F057F3B0135 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 13:33:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00939-03 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 13:33:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111163B00C6 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 13:33:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id x31so357322pye for ; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:33:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=rrrDuk7thGbmxCaV+GpDgO64AwgBzkX9b2BdjNGQ+YeaRhQg7sVHAqTbP9GyoMI4x73agoWOBS1RAN6LBlGQGAyTvOFbtAD9JvKtMaW1DAOw/OoXLma0PVCI95fGE98Kj+Tau7HhLIEgBZG8kGg5+CXqpLKVW9q4INobBEeinhE= Received: by 10.35.40.10 with SMTP id s10mr1001021pyj; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.86.11 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 10:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 12:33:03 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.674 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.632, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.674 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 17:33:06 -0000 I just imported some photos from my camera which does not have any orientation information. I rotated the photos, then exported them to flickr. When viewing them on flickr they are not rotated. I also notice that when I view the image in the Metadata Browser the images are not rotated there. I do not have flickr "auto-magically" rotating images when they are uploaded. Am I missing something or is this a bug? From lewing@novell.com Wed Jun 7 14:02:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1C73B088A for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:02:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02871-10 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA533B0BDC for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17179 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2006 18:02:03 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jun 2006 18:02:03 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: David Berg In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 13:10:13 -0500 Message-Id: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.463 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.064, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.463 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 18:02:05 -0000 On the flickr site turn on the auto rotate option, that will let them display the way you expect there. F-Spot rotates jpegs by changing the exif orientation of the image because it is a small relatively safe modification. This produces an image just like what the camera would have produced if it did have an orientation sensor. I chose to do it this way because f-spot supports loading these images correctly and other rotation methods, lossless or otherwise, require much more drastic modifications to but the image and the metadata. The metadata dialog displays the thumbnail stored in the exif data which is always stored with the sensor orientation, so that is how you would expect it to look. That said, I will probably add an option to the preferences dialog to do rotation of the coefficients sometime in the near future because the code is already in f-spot for other reasons and some people prefer it. --Larry On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 12:33 -0500, David Berg wrote: > I just imported some photos from my camera which does not have any > orientation information. I rotated the photos, then exported them to > flickr. When viewing them on flickr they are not rotated. I also > notice that when I view the image in the Metadata Browser the images > are not rotated there. I do not have flickr "auto-magically" rotating > images when they are uploaded. > > Am I missing something or is this a bug? > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list From drberg1000@gmail.com Thu Jun 8 00:57:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43C33B031C for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 00:57:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07464-03 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 00:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB2A3B02B2 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 00:57:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id f25so417713pyf for ; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 21:57:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kyEBRFvWPiHV/Jy8sgVIKhVJJisyU/sOYSWSObFfmz4qeiiXfe9v6PGvBUYIpzK94x/19oUiiSJUfTZ2gQ3N1JRYyPC12ZlssbWPsJ+g2lLOHwypoZr2bAgwLLqh6OVDwW6pOLVGKlOVmycQ0AVkV+NPy+Fdj5AduYMHokaQ8sY= Received: by 10.35.89.10 with SMTP id r10mr1795799pyl; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 21:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.86.11 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 21:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 23:57:48 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.403 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.197, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.403 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 04:57:51 -0000 On 6/7/06, Larry Ewing wrote: > On the flickr site turn on the auto rotate option, that will let them > display the way you expect there. F-Spot rotates jpegs by changing the Hmmmm..... An f-spot rotated image does not display as rotated on flickr weather I use their "auto rotate" or not. Using their online uploading tool instead of f-spot's also doesn't make a difference. Again, am I missing something? --Dave > exif orientation of the image because it is a small relatively safe > modification. This produces an image just like what the camera would > have produced if it did have an orientation sensor. I chose to do it > this way because f-spot supports loading these images correctly and > other rotation methods, lossless or otherwise, require much more drastic > modifications to but the image and the metadata. The metadata dialog > displays the thumbnail stored in the exif data which is always stored > with the sensor orientation, so that is how you would expect it to look. > > That said, I will probably add an option to the preferences dialog to do > rotation of the coefficients sometime in the near future because the > code is already in f-spot for other reasons and some people prefer it. > > --Larry > > On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 12:33 -0500, David Berg wrote: > > I just imported some photos from my camera which does not have any > > orientation information. I rotated the photos, then exported them to > > flickr. When viewing them on flickr they are not rotated. I also > > notice that when I view the image in the Metadata Browser the images > > are not rotated there. I do not have flickr "auto-magically" rotating > > images when they are uploaded. > > > > Am I missing something or is this a bug? > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > From jaq@spacepants.org Thu Jun 8 01:51:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6323B055F for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 01:51:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10157-02 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 01:51:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx01.anchor.net.au (mx01.anchor.net.au [202.4.234.253]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE95D3B0540 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 01:51:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dawn.casa (office.bridge.anchor.net.au [202.4.235.109]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.anchor.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92EB21C4D8 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:51:40 +1000 (EST) Received: by dawn.casa (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E46562B05DD; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:52:42 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:52:42 +1000 From: Jamie Wilkinson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060608055242.GC21445@spacepants.org> Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org References: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: beefmail v0.0 X-No-CC: Please respect the setting of my Mail-Followup-To header User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.398 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.066, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.398 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 05:51:44 -0000 This one time, at band camp, David Berg wrote: >On 6/7/06, Larry Ewing wrote: >>On the flickr site turn on the auto rotate option, that will let them >>display the way you expect there. F-Spot rotates jpegs by changing the > >Hmmmm..... An f-spot rotated image does not display as rotated on >flickr weather I use their "auto rotate" or not. Using their online >uploading tool instead of f-spot's also doesn't make a difference. > >Again, am I missing something? I noticed a comment in the FlickrRemote.cs file yesterday that says something along the lines of "FIXME: flickr needs rotation", so I suspect that the orientation data could be included in the file upload. I've been playing around in there so if I find out what's going on with that I'll submit a patch. No guarantees though ;-) From steffentchr@gmail.com Wed Jun 7 03:22:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1D73B0C5C for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 03:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22221-08 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 03:22:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BD13B0343 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 03:22:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h2so84527nfe for ; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:22:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to:from:subject:date:x-mailer:sender; b=sBXtRxvuIP++tQikDFyVodcxJq3nExQ8hGuP5+j16BbDL8LHJvS0FP0mqJqfcPpS+ETMoeWzBmc0jTZsZ3PafOP+SQT4YTzO7ehnVB/SHrNq3Eg8Sg2ddcdaW2oZKFGV+Oc5sUFMFAnT8yndtnVsdLQDNteCcQxAgMeGkAXkeZY= Received: by 10.48.157.15 with SMTP id f15mr187524nfe; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.17.57? ( [83.93.78.185]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2sm585578nfe.2006.06.07.00.22.41; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <50103E49-B987-4933-8D00-F99D37F674DD@refresh.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Steffen Tiedemann Christensen Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 09:22:40 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) Sender: Steffen Tiedemann Christensen X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:55:08 -0400 Subject: Setting the endpoint of the Flickr API X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 07:22:45 -0000 Hi guys, I'm a member of the development team at 23 (http://www.23hq.com), and I have a small request/suggestion in that regard. Various photo sharing sites (i.e. our own and beta.zooomr.com) have implemented the Flickr API and allow third party apps such as F-Spot to enable photo export simply by changing the API endpoint. Would it be possible to allow user to manually change the Flickr API endpoint from http:///www.flickr.com/services/rest to something different such as http://www.23hq.com/services/rest or http:// beta.zooomr.com/services/rest. (Refer to this forum thread http://www.23hq.com/forums/message-view? message_id=742083 for a 23 user who got F-Spot exporting to work simply by adding a line to his /etc/hosts file -- this indicates that no other changes are needed in order have full cross-site support with your current code.) Thanks, Steffen Tiedemann Christensen http://www.23hq.com steffen@23hq.com From m487396@rocketmail.com Thu Jun 8 05:12:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F753B0598 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 05:12:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21911-04 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 05:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.86]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D9753B0505 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 05:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 75403 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jun 2006 09:12:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rocketmail.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=CiE/PEk3TmueAOqiBUMhBMt8S8GjK+FL2y81Gt0DE3fHOccQJBnFR7wARvRyZNLUWQo7jzzEN0CWjMo+zjyzMFP9qz0xAO3leDyCiqc6sX8ez4VZtNIxKD9znRZXjcqMbomU8eq9CscFkF8ZFnZSB5FArfksbt0E7bPZF2+WcuU= ; Message-ID: <20060608091250.75401.qmail@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [211.31.121.246] by web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:12:50 EST Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:12:50 +1000 (EST) From: "Mark A. Bell" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:55:08 -0400 Subject: problem compiling on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:12:52 -0000 Hello, I'd like to compile the f-spot-0.1.11 release on Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper. I used 'apt-get build-dep f-spot' to download dependencies. I downloaded the f-spot-0.1.11.tar.bz2 archive. ./configure fails at the following: checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate appending configuration tag "F77" to libtool checking what warning flags to pass to the C compiler... -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes checking what language compliance flags to pass to the C compiler... checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.0... yes (version 2.10.3) checking for mono... /usr/bin/mono checking for mcs... /usr/bin/mcs checking for mono.pc... found checking for Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll... configure: error: missing required mono DLL: Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll However, find / -iname 'Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll' Gives: /usr/lib/mono/gac/Mono.Data.SqliteClient/2.0.0.0__0738eb9f132ed756/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll /usr/lib/mono/2.0/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll Is my configure script looking for the file in the wrong place? Suggestions gratefully received. - mark /f-spot-0.1.11 Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com From lewing@novell.com Thu Jun 8 15:07:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E023B102C for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:07:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30616-09 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461233B1028 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18685 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2006 19:07:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Jun 2006 19:07:43 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Steffen Tiedemann Christensen In-Reply-To: <50103E49-B987-4933-8D00-F99D37F674DD@refresh.dk> References: <50103E49-B987-4933-8D00-F99D37F674DD@refresh.dk> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:15:45 -0500 Message-Id: <1149794146.13936.4.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.463 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.064, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.463 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Setting the endpoint of the Flickr API X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:07:50 -0000 Yeah happy to. It may be a little while before I have the time to add it since it really needs some UI changes to make much sense from the user's perspective. --Larry On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 09:22 +0200, Steffen Tiedemann Christensen wrote: > Hi guys, > > I'm a member of the development team at 23 (http://www.23hq.com), and > I have a small request/suggestion in that regard. Various photo > sharing sites (i.e. our own and beta.zooomr.com) have implemented the > Flickr API and allow third party apps such as F-Spot to enable photo > export simply by changing the API endpoint. > Would it be possible to allow user to manually change the Flickr API > endpoint from http:///www.flickr.com/services/rest to something > different such as http://www.23hq.com/services/rest or http:// > beta.zooomr.com/services/rest. > > (Refer to this forum thread http://www.23hq.com/forums/message-view? > message_id=742083 for a 23 user who got F-Spot exporting to work > simply by adding a line to his /etc/hosts file -- this indicates that > no other changes are needed in order have full cross-site support > with your current code.) > > > Thanks, > Steffen Tiedemann Christensen > http://www.23hq.com > steffen@23hq.com > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list From nick@communicontent.com Thu Jun 8 15:32:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92073B0774 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32276-07 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:32:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pfepb.post.tele.dk (pfepb.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.236]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D93B3B000E for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:32:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nick.communicontent.com (unknown [87.48.90.98]) by pfepb.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 6972DA50096 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 21:31:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by nick.communicontent.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 8 Jun 2006 21:44:43 +0200 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 21:44:43 +0200 From: Nick Wilson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r802 (Linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.532 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.068, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.532 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Wilson List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:32:16 -0000 hi everyone, is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive thanks! -- Nick Wilson http://performancing.com/user/1 From gcgaf-f-spot-list@m.gmane.org Thu Jun 8 16:00:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55823B0F8F for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 16:00:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01410-10 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 16:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28B23B0730 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 16:00:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FoQgD-0003YJ-0p for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:00:33 +0200 Received: from p54a195b5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.161.149.181]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:00:33 +0200 Received: from colin by p54a195b5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:00:33 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Colin Marquardt Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 21:58:21 +0200 Organization: I'd rather call it chaos. Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54a195b5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de Mail-Copies-To: never X-Draft-From: ("gmane.comp.gnome.apps.f-spot" 764) X-message-flag: Please don't add me to your address book if you are using Outlook. Thanks, Colin. X-Jabber-UID: cmarqu (see http://www.jabber.org) X-Home-Page: http://www.marquardt-home.de X-GnuPG-Key: gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.us.pgp.net --recv-keys 5359F413 X-Fingerprint: 6D9B 01B4 F8B9 500F 3056 D74F D27F EBF5 5359 F413 Cancel-Lock: sha1:x1VlmVATagVM8AvUpOEQWvh8OcI= Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.573 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.028, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.573 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 20:00:55 -0000 Nick Wilson writes: > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive Gnome applications use gconf, so in theory, you'd be able to change this setting via e.g. gconf-editor, under apps/fspot/..., but at least my f-spot version 0.1.11 doesn't allow to configure that directory. Cheers, Colin From nick@communicontent.com Thu Jun 8 17:21:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0813D3B06A5 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:21:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06221-10 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:21:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pfepb.post.tele.dk (pfepb.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.236]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF883B0FA3 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:21:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nick.communicontent.com (0x57305a62.naenxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [87.48.90.98]) by pfepb.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 15B7EA50004 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 23:21:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: by nick.communicontent.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 8 Jun 2006 23:34:40 +0200 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 23:34:40 +0200 From: Nick Wilson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060608213440.GD28036@communicontent.com> References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r802 (Linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.524 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.060, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.524 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Wilson List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 21:21:24 -0000 * and then Colin Marquardt declared.... > Nick Wilson writes: > > > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive > > Gnome applications use gconf, so in theory, you'd be able to change > this setting via e.g. gconf-editor, under apps/fspot/..., but at > least my f-spot version 0.1.11 doesn't allow to configure that > directory. ah, i downloaded that, thanks. Shame, mine doesn't have it either. I did successfully move Photos/ and then soft link to it, so maybe i can do something like that to get it doing what i want (ive never used NFS so have no clue really on that..) thanks -- Nick Wilson http://performancing.com/user/1 From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Thu Jun 8 17:35:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410B43B0105 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:35:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07181-02 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:35:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0180B3B000E for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:35:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i12so716162wra for ; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:35:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=QdYV9h9749DmL5097FYmFdvr21aVqNaGBYXjOt9CH+QmINjPdjbCy6uERkxSYIbfCFYziiDbUZPHOI1wSzO4GixpCgsnV618OBKyFVBW/vEp+NY4lvCKoVgDMe2MLy4WgIoaaoXqs+dTu9PHeU5BD6oH/+GGXhQKrcy7XMmS58Q= Received: by 10.54.126.1 with SMTP id y1mr2189765wrc; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.26.1.18? ( [216.95.183.94]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 8sm1984091wra.2006.06.08.14.35.19; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 17:35:18 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> In-Reply-To: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.531 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.531 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 21:35:24 -0000 Nick Wilson wrote: > hi everyone, > > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive > > thanks! I sent a patch to the mailing list a while back that added a '--photoDir' option to f-spot, so you can put both the db, and any imported photos in a specific directory. My particular use case is I want to have a collection of photos directly on my laptop's hard drive, but I want to have another collection of photos on a portable hard drive, and I wanted an easy way to switch between them. I thought I had attached this to a bug, but it looks like I never did. I think the patch I previously submitted was against the last snapshot --- I'll put together a patch against head and submit it tonight... Warren From bengt@thuree.com Thu Jun 8 19:42:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8EF3B00FA for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:42:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13151-10 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:42:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EFD3B0408 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:42:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k58NfpPm015892 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 9 Jun 2006 09:41:54 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: Warren Baird In-Reply-To: <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 09:41:56 +1000 Message-Id: <1149810116.7586.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 23:42:05 -0000 On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 17:35 -0400, Warren Baird wrote: > Nick Wilson wrote: > > hi everyone, > > > > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive > > > > thanks! > > I sent a patch to the mailing list a while back that added a > '--photoDir' option to f-spot, so you can put both the db, and any > imported photos in a specific directory. > > My particular use case is I want to have a collection of photos directly > on my laptop's hard drive, but I want to have another collection of > photos on a portable hard drive, and I wanted an easy way to switch > between them. > > I thought I had attached this to a bug, but it looks like I never did. > I think the patch I previously submitted was against the last > snapshot --- I'll put together a patch against head and submit it tonight... > > Warren I put together a very much preliminary patch to let F-Spot use a global configuration file as well. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331953 Here is another bug (with a patch) to let user change Photos directory. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325166 From nick@communicontent.com Fri Jun 9 17:12:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7AB3B00FE for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21145-06 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:12:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pfepc.post.tele.dk (pfepc.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E3A3B0108 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:12:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nick.communicontent.com (0x57305a62.naenxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [87.48.90.98]) by pfepc.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id BEBF28A0032 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 23:12:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: by nick.communicontent.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 9 Jun 2006 23:26:37 +0200 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 23:26:37 +0200 From: Nick Wilson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060609212637.GA14439@communicontent.com> References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <1149810116.7586.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1149810116.7586.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r802 (Linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.496 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.032, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.496 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Wilson List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 21:12:58 -0000 * and then Bengt Thuree declared.... > > > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > > > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > > > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive > > > > > > thanks! > > > > I sent a patch to the mailing list a while back that added a > > '--photoDir' option to f-spot, so you can put both the db, and any > > imported photos in a specific directory. > > > > My particular use case is I want to have a collection of photos directly > > on my laptop's hard drive, but I want to have another collection of > > photos on a portable hard drive, and I wanted an easy way to switch > > between them. > > > > I thought I had attached this to a bug, but it looks like I never did. > > I think the patch I previously submitted was against the last > > snapshot --- I'll put together a patch against head and submit it tonight... > I put together a very much preliminary patch to let F-Spot use a global > configuration file as well. > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331953 > > Here is another bug (with a patch) to let user change Photos directory. > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325166 Thanks for the help everyone. It turns out that f-spot works just fine if you swap the ~/Photos dir for a symlink, and if that symlink is pointed at an NFS mount, you can indeed keep all your photos on one drive and allow multiple boxes to access it. I've yet to set it up properly, but testing worked just great, now i just have to redo the storage box the way i want it and we're in business :) -- Nick Wilson http://performancing.com/user/1 From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 9 18:55:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F473B0370 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:55:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26392-04 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:55:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.199]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDC83B0301 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:55:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k59MthQJ017111 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:55:44 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: Nick Wilson In-Reply-To: <20060609212637.GA14439@communicontent.com> References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <1149810116.7586.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060609212637.GA14439@communicontent.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:55:50 +1000 Message-Id: <1149893750.7586.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 22:55:51 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 23:26 +0200, Nick Wilson wrote: > It turns out that f-spot works just fine if you swap the ~/Photos dir > for a symlink, and if that symlink is pointed at an NFS mount, you can > indeed keep all your photos on one drive and allow multiple boxes to > access it. > > I've yet to set it up properly, but testing worked just great, now i > just have to redo the storage box the way i want it and we're in > business :) > Are you using the latest CVS? I am using the latest CVS, and have my home directory on an NFS mount. F-Spot will not enable the Edit icons in Edit view due to this. See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344403 /Bengt From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 9 21:21:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0243B028B for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:21:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00418-01 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:21:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.196]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADD53B00D0 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:21:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5A1LDsA016968 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:21:13 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:21:13 +1000 Message-Id: <1149902473.7586.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Subject: SendEmail in MainWindow? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:21:17 -0000 Hi Seems like part of the resize photos for emails are in the MainWindow.cs, but the SendMail.cs file is missing. > $ grep SendEmail MainWindow.cs > new FSpot.SendEmail (new FSpot.PhotoArray (SelectedPhotos ())); Perhaps introduced when reverting MainWindow? /bengt From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 9 22:28:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7EC3B0161 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 22:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03436-09 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 22:28:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4BE3B01D0 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 22:28:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5A2SPJC003635 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:28:25 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list In-Reply-To: <1149902473.7586.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1149902473.7586.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:28:26 +1000 Message-Id: <1149906507.7586.87.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: SendEmail in MainWindow? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:28:31 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 11:21 +1000, Bengt Thuree wrote: > Seems like part of the resize photos for emails are in the > MainWindow.cs, but the SendMail.cs file is missing. > > $ grep SendEmail MainWindow.cs > > new FSpot.SendEmail (new FSpot.PhotoArray (SelectedPhotos ())); > > Perhaps introduced when reverting MainWindow? Or more likely by someone called murphy at my place :( After deleting all, and checkout a new version of F-Spot it worked fine. /Bengt From jaq@spacepants.org Sat Jun 10 01:33:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964973B028B for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:33:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10716-06 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx01.anchor.net.au (mx01.anchor.net.au [202.4.234.253]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655CD3B0169 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dawn.casa (203-166-247-250.dyn.iinet.net.au [203.166.247.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.anchor.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4681C6F9 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:33:08 +1000 (EST) Received: by dawn.casa (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CE0502B0BA7; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:34:10 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:34:10 +1000 From: Jamie Wilkinson To: f-spot-list Message-ID: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailer: beefmail v0.0 X-No-CC: Please respect the setting of my Mail-Followup-To header User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.034 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_WHOIS_BOGONS=2.43] X-Spam-Score: -0.034 X-Spam-Level: Subject: building with ccache X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:33:11 -0000 Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs? Now I've got a few branches of f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing. From maxima.mlist@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 05:40:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249773B0130 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:40:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23000-07 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:40:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38543B044D for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:40:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1054485pyd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:40:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=sb9Yr5B0RGgit+ST7bP1rNs6hHp/T7vcSqmIxQ/NTXJPbrG1zCDAY1NK8MwDxh9FH9XPLsH6UoNggW5QEXMCi/wPjIBSIfRvsQrTTTSfBOThVYedWBF2Bmg3bxLiiu/Sl7uW2rOcynaZ6buF79sPkJaCh2PZZWq2Hpy7TXx49fA= Received: by 10.35.91.15 with SMTP id t15mr934583pyl; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from debussy.harmony ( [203.206.244.79]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k53sm1789689pyd.2006.06.10.02.40.50; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:40:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Arif Lukito To: Jamie Wilkinson In-Reply-To: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> References: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-RHtnQ5hPXSxZloA4yo5B" Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:40:47 +1000 Message-Id: <1149932447.18989.0.camel@debussy.harmony> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.035 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_WHOIS_BOGONS=2.43, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.035 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list Subject: Re: building with ccache X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:40:56 -0000 --=-RHtnQ5hPXSxZloA4yo5B Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 15:34 +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs? Now I've got a few branches of > f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the > build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing > obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing. Isn't that ccache is only for C and C++ ? -- Arif Lukito --=-RHtnQ5hPXSxZloA4yo5B Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 15:34 +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: 
Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs?  Now I've got a few branches of
f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the
build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing
obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing.
Isn't that ccache is only for C and C++ ?


--
Arif Lukito <maxima.mlist@gmail.com>
--=-RHtnQ5hPXSxZloA4yo5B-- From m.j.hutchinson@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 09:09:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6593B04A6 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:09:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03255-08 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:09:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.207]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDF93B0479 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:09:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i30so764988wxd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 06:09:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Qut/7C/0Ntt7OY7KFW+icHgUMPZ9U4euqqzUsT7/65llNw6Z0ScOU46mU02+bDFt4NXIx/Zv8K3HO0y3V6O9uq/t5NAmFvbZvnrWI+O2IIcjo1K75JHUAbt39s1OUkEr/MqrLqc7bQ0lf7vcUPBHu+u11IMS+rJdN1IdqEpQXv0= Received: by 10.70.8.2 with SMTP id 2mr4547431wxh; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 06:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.124.9 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 06:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 14:09:42 +0100 From: "Michael Hutchinson" To: f-spot-list In-Reply-To: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.259 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.341, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.259 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: building with ccache X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:09:45 -0000 On 6/10/06, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs? Now I've got a few branches of > f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the > build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing > obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing. Won't work with mcs. Even it it did, mcs is many times faster than gcc, so you wouldn't see much of a difference. You could maybe put it in front of the C parts of f-spot. Michael From drberg1000@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 11:02:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2CF3B0237 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10145-05 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:02:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F2D3B0227 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:02:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1106948pyd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:02:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uqi4FAHLtjox6py+LI4LzOTRwIwtRp2JR//+QHuhAnla3qhZ1fcJZOqEj7b5q2Zz/7fd7lqn67ouLjvfEYbqv2grbuxO5p2oqNIo1Qr9TEMN5/SILmWCI5Bv4s3Fr+YMXArE+woYFue2mfWkMYbaslLZ/cDcuS1fdn6hWtd4oZ4= Received: by 10.35.46.6 with SMTP id y6mr3646121pyj; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.82.13 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 10:02:00 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20060608055242.GC21445@spacepants.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> <20060608055242.GC21445@spacepants.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.666 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.624, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.666 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:02:07 -0000 On 6/8/06, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > This one time, at band camp, David Berg wrote: > >On 6/7/06, Larry Ewing wrote: > >>On the flickr site turn on the auto rotate option, that will let them > >>display the way you expect there. F-Spot rotates jpegs by changing the > > > >Hmmmm..... An f-spot rotated image does not display as rotated on > >flickr weather I use their "auto rotate" or not. Using their online > >uploading tool instead of f-spot's also doesn't make a difference. > > > >Again, am I missing something? > > I noticed a comment in the FlickrRemote.cs file yesterday that says > something along the lines of "FIXME: flickr needs rotation", so I suspect > that the orientation data could be included in the file upload. I don't know how f-spot is organized so I could be wrong but I don't think its a problem with any code specific to flickr. I remember this morning that my camera would rotate images by adjusting exif as well and tried it using that to rotate instead of f-spot. When I uploaded a camera-rotated-image flickr auto-rotated it. I uploaded the image both using the web interface and f-spot and both methods worked fine. When I ran exif on an image I had rotated using f-spot and compared it to this one I found that the camera-rotated-image had these entries for Orientation: dberg@dale:~/Photos/2006/6/10$ exif DSC02341.JPG | grep Orientation Orientation |right - top Orientation |right - top Where as the image rotated in f-spot had these entries: dberg@dale:~/Photos/2006/6/10$ exif DSC02342.JPG | grep Orientation Orientation |right - top Orientation |top - left Apparently flickr looks at both or just the second and is either confused by the mismatched info or decides it doesn't need to be rotated. Should I file a bug for this? --Dave > > I've been playing around in there so if I find out what's going on with that > I'll submit a patch. No guarantees though ;-) > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From bengt@thuree.com Sat Jun 10 11:12:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C3A3B028F for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:12:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10802-09 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:12:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FCF3B0187 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5AFCQfe005287 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 01:12:27 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: David Berg In-Reply-To: References: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> <20060608055242.GC21445@spacepants.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 01:12:36 +1000 Message-Id: <1149952357.7586.101.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:12:35 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 10:02 -0500, David Berg wrote: > > Should I file a bug for this? > Please do, since that is the sure way to ensure nothing gets lost during the way.... :) Good finding :) /Bengt From tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie Sat Jun 10 11:46:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADA33B01D7 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:46:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12287-04 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:46:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alfred.murphy.ie (unknown [86.43.71.228]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944AA3B0227 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alfred.murphy.ie (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alfred.murphy.ie (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5AFkbvD011987 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:46:37 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by alfred.murphy.ie (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k5AFka96011984 for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:46:36 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: alfred.murphy.ie: tim set sender to tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie using -f From: Timothy Murphy Organization: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:46:35 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200606101646.36200.tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.579 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.020, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.579 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Is f-spot what I want? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:46:57 -0000 I'm afraid it's not clear to me exactly what f-spot does (or how one gets it to do whatever that is). Basically, I have a few folders containing JPEGs, maybe 300 in all, and I want to offer them on my web-site. Can I use f-spot to create a web photo gallery? If so, what commands exactly should I give? I looked at the User Guide, but I'm afraid I didn't learn much from it. Is there a simple tutorial or howto somewhere? Any suggestions or advice gratefully received. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland From ken@vandine.org Sat Jun 10 11:58:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7623B02AC for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12471-07 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (unknown [24.25.9.100]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08923B0305 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (cpe-071-065-240-185.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.240.185]) by ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5AFwiTS025959; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken VanDine To: tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie In-Reply-To: <200606101646.36200.tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie> References: <200606101646.36200.tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:52 -0400 Message-Id: <1149955132.5110.2.camel@foobar> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.082 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.517, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.082 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Is f-spot what I want? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:58:55 -0000 You can export them to create a web gallery. http://f-spot.org/User_Guide/Share#Generate_a_Website_Gallery F-Spot is a tool for managing your library of photos. Part of that management is being able to export the photos you select and resize for the web. There are several methods for doing so, check that link out and see if it does what you want. Enjoy f-spot! --Ken On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 16:46 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I'm afraid it's not clear to me exactly what f-spot does > (or how one gets it to do whatever that is). > > Basically, I have a few folders containing JPEGs, > maybe 300 in all, > and I want to offer them on my web-site. > Can I use f-spot to create a web photo gallery? > If so, what commands exactly should I give? > > I looked at the User Guide, > but I'm afraid I didn't learn much from it. > > Is there a simple tutorial or howto somewhere? > Any suggestions or advice gratefully received. > From qub333@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 12:16:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6087A3B02AC for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:16:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13756-02 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:16:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.199]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540C63B0538 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:14:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 9so1255881nzo for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:14:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=GB86vqRKdEeOzi28pIfkBAsCyEH7ygXq9FBpSFrMwCpGU6lxZUMPDBJhYx5g5YTinsWlqL59dAJWwdJqJoJbOhf9fiPxNoMKhYYkzc9lOl5ipX4+DqmgKlnDM+TEjeaczi9JI6A2eeL+ep5nKucozR+GdJKb1PFqeiwjeQiybKs= Received: by 10.36.224.49 with SMTP id w49mr3904026nzg; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.4 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <88d636060606100914y2a85732fk46a51842dc2aa41a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:14:33 -0400 From: "Kevin Kubasik" Sender: qub333@gmail.com To: "Mark A. Bell" In-Reply-To: <20060608091250.75401.qmail@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060608091250.75401.qmail@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8e590672541337ac X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.548 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.052, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.548 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: problem compiling on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:16:16 -0000 Try the following, just to be sure sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get build-dep f-spot ./configure --prefix=/usr //becasue you are on an debian based system, you need to use the /use prefix -Kevin Kubasik On 6/8/06, Mark A. Bell wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to compile the f-spot-0.1.11 release on Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper. > > I used 'apt-get build-dep f-spot' to download dependencies. > I downloaded the f-spot-0.1.11.tar.bz2 archive. > > ./configure fails at the following: > > checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate > appending configuration tag "F77" to libtool > checking what warning flags to pass to the C compiler... -Wall > -Wmissing-prototypes > checking what language compliance flags to pass to the C compiler... > checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config > checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.0... yes (version 2.10.3) > checking for mono... /usr/bin/mono > checking for mcs... /usr/bin/mcs > checking for mono.pc... found > checking for Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll... configure: error: missing > required mono DLL: Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll > > However, > > find / -iname 'Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll' > > Gives: > > /usr/lib/mono/gac/Mono.Data.SqliteClient/2.0.0.0__0738eb9f132ed756/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll > /usr/lib/mono/2.0/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll > > Is my configure script looking for the file in the wrong place? > Suggestions gratefully received. > > - mark > > > > /f-spot-0.1.11 > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > -- Cheers, Kevin Kubasik http://kubasik.net/blog From m487396@rocketmail.com Sat Jun 10 15:42:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE34C3B0494 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:42:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23801-01 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:42:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.92]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E58ED3B050D for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73928 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jun 2006 19:42:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rocketmail.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=WrghfpbdBeyioC5I4vqJtyfXtA3g1ScLkKPv/o2ndn4pdLXa6UjyIZYeoC6OMSDLBGOnz6hAjDM9YhK+3ZpoCAJTwf5peTQwKl63oBnXOTvEKtj7zUiJfzWYVN8gihjIdCqulPiIaBoZVwC8iNpWG0IIet0bV9JfH9rESR2phWQ= ; Message-ID: <20060610194218.73926.qmail@web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [211.31.121.246] by web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:42:18 EST Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:42:18 +1000 (EST) From: "Mark A. Bell" To: f-spot-list In-Reply-To: <88d636060606100914y2a85732fk46a51842dc2aa41a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.577 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.577 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: problem compiling on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:42:22 -0000 --- Kevin Kubasik wrote: > Try the following, just to be sure > > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get build-dep f-spot > ./configure --prefix=/usr //becasue you are on an debian based > system, > you need to use the /use prefix > > -Kevin Kubasik Thanks kindly for your help, Kevin. I don't have much experience compiling packages from source. The problem was that I had mono-classlib-2.0, but I needed mono-classlib-1.0 instead. After fixing this, and a good deal of other packages, I got Flickr to configure and compile. I am most happy - thanks to all the Flickr developers. Why anyone would want to run Picassa on Linux is a mystery to me. - mark sydney, australia http://www.flickr.com/photos/m487396 Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com From qub333@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 22:16:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CA13B0456 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:16:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04252-07 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:16:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6EC3B0313 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:16:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i30so830058wxd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:15:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=jW8efGCqBx8QziPZrY6SDT9f2nHLSZQqv3oyGiR53yaYaIgI6OutbmzK0Og4QEdj7in+M37aSaWfRB5NCjCbjeprFMMzyCEWC+Rjd35/QI1+JRk2LwcAECH185L6wPxNytSmiwPm2vSFONosqEz5s2xbQg3GtdjbWM5ftfxSocg= Received: by 10.70.10.2 with SMTP id 2mr5071104wxj; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.108? ( [69.140.109.194]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h9sm4269697wxd.2006.06.10.19.15.33; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <448B7CC4.7020902@kubasik.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:15:32 -0400 From: Kevin Kubasik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060522) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=43337DF4; url=http://kubasik.net/KevinKubasik.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Kevin Kubasik X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.16 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.440, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.16 X-Spam-Level: Subject: F-spot and pkg-config X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:16:40 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Does f-spot install a pkg-config .pc file? I can't seem to find one, but I am working on some deeper integration between beagle and f-spot, and I need beagle to be able to check at compile time if f-spot is installed, and what version. A simple f-spot --version | awk {print $3} does work as a hack, but a more permanent/ professional solution would be nice. - -- Cheers, Kevin Kubasik 240-838-6616 http://kubasik.net/blog -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBRIt8xP3xZFNDM330AQjuFg/+Nwk8Yd14Toy+9NUK2OWpaCdyCcDwLVUf MchviVqlSx1dsHjQBFUczlHmmbHIjhivAp+p69rBlGPxOzUebTSUA50Sf1i+dafc cGUuimjBhd8LXehpHyEoKRdb/adrMcylhqtmOC52UnxmewKQ/oOd7c4Vdhqy/8+I n9HQuqUIS0FVQ6obRcLNRF+jz4PVInRyfOaqHiHD6g/wDUtgX5pRNdkGiqiC2J4F NbMytA2NJafwqCdJFFORUQ7O+3rSl0R0e7Ee9PodfeuNQNNm93+yeU+cOYNxkiPL i8seVQN2dhdjiGA+2ifYNna3yeG62q8hr/513j03JZUdjrZtfcixc0j+VeePpSWA Hy2M2qrNbZCRtRVkqrwmsMjzgn6F50bboGa3uhlSHWJ9+Jo1JNbU7pdu+DSyxqYJ NXv9eQBwMBPcwsoAua8fbgJsVD2/BeS8atRXcUUQgtkv8FPu5+WyD4+L22HGWLzX Urymjs4+iHKsZP4xt8FHTYpdaXch6YX+X5LDdLzkLd9RtR98C8pAEbxB6V11jisQ qnImNe42UHLGNz69mbIPWRX3AgruVlrrENfwSPTegAfAI3X0+9Yk+ZT1nGlaWsYO pN/Bs1d1adyM2zMxrMJMN6SfveJHHsm4pzNg8tNJEwv41tEjxLeK4JR3GBrqh4NY 8ua7ZQ20iWg= =728w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jaq@spacepants.org Sat Jun 10 22:23:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580633B0313 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:23:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04933-03 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx01.anchor.net.au (mx01.anchor.net.au [202.4.234.253]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A904D3B030D for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dawn.casa (203-166-247-250.dyn.iinet.net.au [203.166.247.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.anchor.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405A01D14A for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:21:52 +1000 (EST) Received: by dawn.casa (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EFE2A2B0BA8; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:22:55 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:22:55 +1000 From: Jamie Wilkinson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060611022255.GB4953@spacepants.org> Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org References: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> <1149932447.18989.0.camel@debussy.harmony> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1149932447.18989.0.camel@debussy.harmony> X-Mailer: beefmail v0.0 X-No-CC: Please respect the setting of my Mail-Followup-To header User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.034 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_WHOIS_BOGONS=2.43] X-Spam-Score: -0.034 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: building with ccache X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:23:22 -0000 This one time, at band camp, Arif Lukito wrote: >On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 15:34 +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > >> Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs? Now I've got a few branches of >> f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the >> build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing >> obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing. > >Isn't that ccache is only for C and C++ ? I've never used it before, that's why I was asking ;-) From qub333@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 22:28:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900C43B04F1 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:28:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04593-08 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:28:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DE63B0456 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:28:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i30so830843wxd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:27:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=B96MHIhFWoOBQWWZ+acTxmyJ+nAwZUGEsEq9mQ6aUjQuwLdTnsG/mkXrqg5kCiKLA/hj+kUM+oSRmYZO61aep48FtXl+JKEGTK47ev1Tp0RlPubvzCl3p+zqpOXq0ba3prazN3D+T5OwsdeQg4eIxJo2oIEH1aNh5C3Ia0sIYwI= Received: by 10.70.26.1 with SMTP id 1mr5072738wxz; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.108? ( [69.140.109.194]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h17sm4376967wxd.2006.06.10.19.27.46; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <448B7FA2.5020908@kubasik.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:27:46 -0400 From: Kevin Kubasik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060522) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Kubasik References: <448B7CC4.7020902@kubasik.net> In-Reply-To: <448B7CC4.7020902@kubasik.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=43337DF4; url=http://kubasik.net/KevinKubasik.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Kevin Kubasik X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.199 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.401, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.199 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot and pkg-config X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:28:41 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Ok, I filed this as bug #344534 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344534 Kevin Kubasik wrote: > Does f-spot install a pkg-config .pc file? I can't seem to find one, but > I am working on some deeper integration between beagle and f-spot, and I > need beagle to be able to check at compile time if f-spot is installed, > and what version. A simple > f-spot --version | awk {print $3} > does work as a hack, but a more permanent/ professional solution would > be nice. > > - -- Cheers, Kevin Kubasik 240-838-6616 http://kubasik.net/blog -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBRIt/of3xZFNDM330AQjFhg/+M+p26fVL8cXYQVpsloho71P2Ode6yIM7 X/tcHynd/WXivm8phZMJpgFpSdsr9rUmGuLc2WCvB07K217cBo3ESV0YEDvYvoeu 0P2dCKkmu9z9sKcpJsCCCrOa/nALIoTSNFPhuxE6bcy7dPVykpLbuqg160+LGyX5 TpCnayaxO4CNZu52TrctsqMF6ana7OFhJ5zft3FE3jQ/hy41VK+2ltMn5wHQ2fNe 4BTPlvzNhFlorCbY4P5snZnA2Jss3Xg3pzugq/O990BIaoOFCRThDly+hlEYrvlm hV25rue/rtsM/1A7vH3CHM8JMnC5nJYkky3b4j6RtPoekQf0zj09gFfzUhCmCMu6 0nm9DSNLjU6fVhc4M6ZFDBz1iO/eS7Z29s9jSAt1Kk5Wkqw+bNX8BUgaXuv1NE8l wr1qWjR+gfNys8UyFcEduI0bIGfYVJCq/fwR0LJU3yAJimoLlgKgPUFBZHVxL1+9 4cSJa9NBxX4/Kva75k2WHBEmSvf/2QlWrHJEYygIlSD2x+4Gg67/X1xC+7E907YU Yw8aYDHnRKx4JFVcwhz9zY6nwaEQiT+kyu4ZOGq/4B8qVdbfknajdjKDRaEspP/Y RhhG4BcPPz3tYO63CwsT39HFfA6FXj6X7Zl6ws7s0ZB5sy5hzUUwKhWofFVT8lNx MpstHJqaSlA= =dX62 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jfc001@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 05:30:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C2D3B0095 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00548-02 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BDB3B039F for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1237268pyd for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:29:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=eVJZishWuh/BkzRmlhCsCcTL848UFOONhi6OPnFccj0y6OY/91p7FB7EG1PMjqpzikeEsROOCVXl7vjnHzCIun6ogcj2fo7U+HMc/V9oXEjFzyyWf+Ddx3GgmilNVktcmjWgx/Rj/dyyt6Z50vEZm0iclpHbWyAQwtTvoru1XGA= Received: by 10.35.57.5 with SMTP id j5mr131414pyk; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.20.7 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:29:15 -0600 From: "James Carroll" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_6231_12266151.1150018155717" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.238 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.052, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP=0.175, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.238 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 09:30:20 -0000 ------=_Part_6231_12266151.1150018155717 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6232_32330217.1150018155717" ------=_Part_6232_32330217.1150018155717 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I upgraded from Ubuntu Breezy (5.10) to Dapper (6.06), but I am still not able to run f-spot. I am able to successfully compile the latest CVS version by following the How to Build instructions, (Thanks, Bengtt!), but I get the following when trying to run f-spot, either the stable version through the package manager or the latest CVS. I have attached the full error output, both for the stable version and the CVS snapshot. The output of the two is slightly different. ** (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe:2636): WARNING **: The > following assembly referenced from /home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f- > spot.exe could not be loaded: > Assembly: gnome-sharp (assemblyref_index=9) > Version: 2.8.0.0 > Public Key: 35e10195dab3c99f > The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in > the MONO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing > assembly (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot). > > > ================================================================= > Got a SIGSEGV while executing native code. This usually indicates > a fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries > used by your application. > ================================================================= > I have looked for the variable MONO_PATH isn't set, at least not in bash. Thank you so much for the help! James Carroll ------=_Part_6232_32330217.1150018155717 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I upgraded from Ubuntu Breezy (5.10) to Dapper (6.06), but I am still not able to run f-spot.  I am able to successfully compile the latest CVS version by following the How to Build instructions, (Thanks, Bengtt!), but I get the following when trying to run f-spot, either the stable version through the package manager or the latest CVS. I have attached the full error output, both for the stable version and the CVS snapshot. The output of the two is slightly different.

** (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f- spot.exe:2636): WARNING **: The following assembly referenced from /home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe could not be loaded:
     Assembly:   gnome-sharp    (assemblyref_index=9)
     Version:    2.8.0.0
     Public Key: 35e10195dab3c99f
The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in the MONO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing assembly (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot).


=================================================================
Got a SIGSEGV while executing native code. This usually indicates
a fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries
used by your application.
=================================================================

I have looked for the variable MONO_PATH isn't set, at least not in bash.

Thank you so much for the help!
James Carroll


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Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:14:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03055-01 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:14:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.166]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C2F3B0095 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:14:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5BADUcu001565 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:13:31 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: James Carroll In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:13:41 +1000 Message-Id: <1150020822.5937.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:14:57 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 03:29 -0600, James Carroll wrote: > I upgraded from Ubuntu Breezy (5.10) to Dapper (6.06), but I am still > not able to run f-spot. I am able to successfully compile the latest > CVS version by following the How to Build instructions, (Thanks, > Bengtt!), Your'e welcome :) > but I get the following when trying to run f-spot, either the stable > version through the package manager or the latest CVS. I have attached > the full error output, both for the stable version and the CVS > snapshot. The output of the two is slightly different. > > ** (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f- spot.exe:2636): > WARNING **: The following assembly referenced > from /home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe could > not Have you done the "make install" ? F-Spot will look for some libraries in the /home/james/unstable/f-spot directory even if you run the uninstalled version. /Bengt From jfc001@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 06:42:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178CE3B03C2 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:42:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04975-03 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:42:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5553B00CB for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:42:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1245373pyd for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:40:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=iYpd1sL8Oo9JSa8vJR6yHyXLIC8hlhbaYM2LBWW0l4L7iQygBq/7qiIhkedClZsd9Vv588Ywofw09jDe79xRLkpBE9vFm/7gsryKOSmkdGBSiiA/+Dy9rntQeX3th4hJcVw81+6XWIKh+obn1m8uEvwRWHSHCjIeThTmiktRRtE= Received: by 10.35.109.2 with SMTP id l2mr2349713pym; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.20.7 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 04:40:04 -0600 From: "James Carroll" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6688_26513123.1150022404549" References: <1150020822.5937.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.331 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.134, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.331 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:42:35 -0000 ------=_Part_6688_26513123.1150022404549 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 6/11/06, Bengt Thuree wrote: > Have you done the "make install" ? Yes. But I wasn't sure from which directory to run it. From your directions, I don't think it's clear if I should be in ~/development/f-spot/f-spot/src or ~/development/f-spot/f-spot/ Either way, I ran it in both (I assume the Makefile in the parent directory calls the Makefile in the subdirectory) and I still get the same error. Do I need to run it as root (with sudo)? F-Spot will look for some libraries in the /home/james/unstable/f-spot > directory even if you run the uninstalled version. What is the "uninstalled version"? To me, it seems impossible to run a program that's not installed on your computer. Is this a common term when working with projects under development, in which you might have one version "installed" and other versions in various directories, that aren't "installed"? /Bengt James ------=_Part_6688_26513123.1150022404549 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 6/11/06, Bengt Thuree <bengt@thuree.com > wrote:
Have you done the "make install" ?

Yes. But I wasn't sure from which directory to run it.  From your directions, I don't think it's clear if I should be in
~/development/f-spot/f-spot/src
or
~/development/f-spot/f-spot/

Either way, I ran it in both (I assume the Makefile in the parent directory calls the Makefile in the subdirectory) and I still get the same error.  Do I need to run it as root (with sudo)?

F-Spot will look for some libraries in the /home/james/unstable/f-spot
directory even if you run the uninstalled version.

What is the "uninstalled version"?  To me, it seems impossible to run a program that's not installed on your computer.  Is this a common term when working with projects under development, in which you might have one version "installed" and other versions in various directories, that aren't "installed"?

/Bengt
 
James

------=_Part_6688_26513123.1150022404549-- From janne.ojaniemi@nbl.fi Sun Jun 11 07:32:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387523B063F for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06916-03 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:32:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.nblnetworks.fi (smtp2.nblnetworks.fi [217.30.182.231]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339503B0640 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:32:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (xdsl-176-84.nblnetworks.fi [217.30.176.84]) by smtp2.nblnetworks.fi (8.13.1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k5BBXu9M021198 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:33:57 +0300 From: Janne Ojaniemi To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:31:38 +0300 Message-Id: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 11:32:06 -0000 What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs are unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, F-Spot constantly fights against me. So I have a bunch of photos on my computer. They are NOT in my home-folder, but rather in /multimedia/pics. This way they are accessible to my wife as well. And in that directory, they are also divided among different folders, named after the subject. This way I can browse the pictures in filemanager as well, should the need arise. Sounds simple enough? Yes it does. But why is this setup so difficult for F-Spot to handle? I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, select "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to photos-folder", and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. After the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is it? Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to select "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to find out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me where those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are located in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the date of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be in /multimedia/pics/ I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the Photos-folder. Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same set of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I edit any of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. I just re-tried the import, after I deleted the photos-folder from my home. And again it copied the files to my home. I then deleted the photos-folder again, and the thumbnails were still visible in F-Spot, but full-size photos were not. Why can't I do something as simple as this: Tell F-spot to import photos from certain folder and NOT copy the files ANYWHERE. Just import the photos, but leave the actual files where they are! IIRC I ONCE managed to make F-spot really use the /multimedia/pics, but even then, if I imported pics from my camera, F-Spot always imported them to /home/photos. So my pictures were split among two locations, when I really want to have all my pics in one location. Why is this so hard? It feels like that F-Spot has certain way of working, and it wont budge from that way. And I would have to adjust my way of working to suit F-Spot. And we are not talking about anything fundamental here, we are talking about the location where the pictures are stored! From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 11 08:55:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1333B00E2 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:55:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09811-06 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:55:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B55F3B00BB for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:55:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5BCsXfR007188 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:54:33 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: James Carroll In-Reply-To: References: <1150020822.5937.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:54:40 +1000 Message-Id: <1150030480.5937.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:55:12 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 04:40 -0600, James Carroll wrote: > On 6/11/06, Bengt Thuree wrote: > > Have you done the "make install" ? > > Yes. But I wasn't sure from which directory to run it. From your > directions, I don't think it's clear if I should be in > ~/development/f-spot/f-spot/src > or > ~/development/f-spot/f-spot/ Ok, I updated the instructions a bit. You should do the "make all", "make install", or "make all install" from the f-spot directory. Not the src directory. > > Either way, I ran it in both (I assume the Makefile in the parent > directory calls the Makefile in the subdirectory) and I still get the > same error. Do I need to run it as root (with sudo)? No need to run it as root (sudo), since you specified a target directory which is writable by your user. > > > F-Spot will look for some libraries in > the /home/james/unstable/f-spot > directory even if you run the uninstalled version. > > What is the "uninstalled version"? To me, it seems impossible to run > a program that's not installed on your computer. Is this a common > term when working with projects under development, in which you might > have one version "installed" and other versions in various > directories, that aren't "installed"? F-Spot can be run after you have done a "make all", by changing directory to src, and then give the command "./f-spot --uninstalled" But it will need some library files which it tries to find from the installation directory, so you will have to have done at least one "make install" My target directory's lib files are the following: > > ls /opt/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/ > FlickrNet.dll libfspoteog.so libfspotjpegtran.so.0 libgphoto2-sharp.dll > f-spot.exe libfspoteog.so.0 libfspotjpegtran.so.0.0.0 libgphoto2-sharp.dll.config > f-spot.exe.config libfspoteog.so.0.0.0 libfspot.la SemWeb.dll > libfspot.a libfspotjpegtran.a libfspot.so > libfspoteog.a libfspotjpegtran.la libfspot.so.0 > libfspoteog.la libfspotjpegtran.so libfspot.so.0.0.0 Can you perhaps send the console commands and output when you try and run the CVS version? (including how you start f-spot) /Bengt From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 13:12:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E953B01E3 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:12:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23016-08 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2553B01AA for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:12:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so795377nfc for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:11:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=jmJsArqQVOiw7tOxqiMXvx0gwSNK42zV+zrK/jnf39AUtWZdTMvDsGoDqhZZXYC9RQphNlZ+iPRtUJ8WZUyJ66FiB8HiuD766aExGbt5I6ub/JCTLSXUYjS6Rg5oUp5D0xb0GHDRMCF9+d66cy3gikrM1pNcEhTW5ELUZEQVZzU= Received: by 10.48.213.1 with SMTP id l1mr4142637nfg; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:11:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C0A840.access.telenet.be ( [84.192.168.64]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10sm5595991nfb.2006.06.11.10.11.40; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:11:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:11:39 +0200 Message-Id: <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.263 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.337, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.263 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 17:12:24 -0000 Hi Janne, On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 14:31 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs are > unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, F-Spot > constantly fights against me. > > So I have a bunch of photos on my computer. They are NOT in my > home-folder, but rather in /multimedia/pics. This way they are > accessible to my wife as well. And in that directory, they are also > divided among different folders, named after the subject. This way I can > browse the pictures in filemanager as well, should the need arise. > Sounds simple enough? Yes it does. But why is this setup so difficult > for F-Spot to handle? > > I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the > import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, select > "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to photos-folder", > and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. After > the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is it? > Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem > (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to select > "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to find > out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me where > those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are located > in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the date > of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be > in /multimedia/pics/ > > I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the Photos-folder. > Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same set > of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I edit any > of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my > home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. > > I just re-tried the import, after I deleted the photos-folder from my > home. And again it copied the files to my home. I then deleted the > photos-folder again, and the thumbnails were still visible in F-Spot, > but full-size photos were not. > > Why can't I do something as simple as this: Tell F-spot to import photos > from certain folder and NOT copy the files ANYWHERE. Just import the > photos, but leave the actual files where they are! > > IIRC I ONCE managed to make F-spot really use the /multimedia/pics, but > even then, if I imported pics from my camera, F-Spot always imported > them to /home/photos. So my pictures were split among two locations, > when I really want to have all my pics in one location. > > Why is this so hard? It feels like that F-Spot has certain way of > working, and it wont budge from that way. And I would have to adjust my > way of working to suit F-Spot. And we are not talking about anything > fundamental here, we are talking about the location where the pictures > are stored! Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: 1. count to ten, think of the possibility that you might have bumped into a bug 2. ask someone on irc, or on the mailing list to see if they could reproduce the behaviour 3. file a bug in bugzilla.gnome.org so people could take care of it I think that all this negative energy isn't going to get you anywhere. Regards, Thomas From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 16:19:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751723B0159 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:19:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32157-09 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:19:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930A63B00CA for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:19:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so805830nfe for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:18:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=d8C1FvMddnGIX2+QzDT+AsXHSpw4RGo8zrMlVNqTE4lLcGwFNq6RS3tx6HYRWazxU5bj6kGIFubTj+/wRfVnG/EVzQyd5CFCjdTDK8vpBHa1a0ABmt/ICj237PdEomTrpGS8nlfKlvc4TiBAncyT6PSP2cHh4FlZZ4JDjRpVT7U= Received: by 10.48.213.11 with SMTP id l11mr4233187nfg; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C0A840.access.telenet.be ( [84.192.168.64]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x1sm5709776nfb.2006.06.11.12.49.38; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:49:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 21:49:37 +0200 Message-Id: <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.323 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.277, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.323 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:19:49 -0000 Hi Janne, On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 19:11 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long > > rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: > > I apologize for my negativity. I really do. I had just spent quite a bit > of time importing pictures, only to find out that I had bunch of photos > in place where I did not want them. So I was quite pissed off when I > wrote my initial message. > I understand you were pissed off, but admit you were a bit hard ;-) > > 2. ask someone on irc, or on the mailing list to see if they could > > reproduce the behaviour > > Well, I thought that I just described my problem. > Yeah, you _kind of_ described your problem, but you left out a lot of details: * what version of f-spot are you running? * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your miserable state :-p What I suggest you do is the following: * remove the f-spot sqlite db, it's ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db * re-start f-spot, perform the import again but uncheck the "copy" checkbox _before_ you select a folder to import from * open the f-spot database by executing $sqlite ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db * perform a select * from photos go and look at the paths that appear in the output: do they point to your original directory or to the local ~/Photos dir? Regards, Thomas From m487396@rocketmail.com Sun Jun 11 16:24:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB4E3B0422 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:24:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32591-08 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.83]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA3033B026B for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:24:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23382 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jun 2006 20:23:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rocketmail.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZtGEKjbe8SmlcRnL6JNb8V7bOO7XXZ2d1xVZDU1DEL+EzwT1v85Mi/nMmPonGIL+rfPO7KjBC9fPSOTIeThLPgpBcVYIjRmVoLjnlJ26QUCuI7ftsF7QuruflaRPhHAz/dYYGsnljFS7BBMjNKJHzMuBoW51Nd/qBbRWHUKFydE= ; Message-ID: <20060611202351.23380.qmail@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [211.31.121.246] by web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 06:23:51 EST Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 06:23:51 +1000 (EST) From: "Mark A. Bell" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.487 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.088, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.487 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:24:41 -0000 Hi Janne, I don't know enough about f-spot to configure it correctly for you, but it sounds like gthumb would do the kind of things you want. gthumb http://gthumb.sourceforge.net/features.html regards, - mark sydney, australia http://www.flickr.com/photos/m487396 Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 14:31 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs > are > > unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, > F-Spot > > constantly fights against me. > > > > So I have a bunch of photos on my computer. They are NOT in my > > home-folder, but rather in /multimedia/pics. This way they are > > accessible to my wife as well. And in that directory, they are also > > divided among different folders, named after the subject. This way > I can > > browse the pictures in filemanager as well, should the need arise. > > Sounds simple enough? Yes it does. But why is this setup so > difficult > > for F-Spot to handle? > > > > I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the > > import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, > select > > "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to > photos-folder", > > and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. > After > > the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is > it? > > Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem > > (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to > select > > "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to > find > > out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me > where > > those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are > located > > in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the > date > > of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be > > in /multimedia/pics/ > > > > I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the > Photos-folder. > > Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same > set > > of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I > edit any > > of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my > > home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. > > > > I just re-tried the import, after I deleted the photos-folder from > my > > home. And again it copied the files to my home. I then deleted the > > photos-folder again, and the thumbnails were still visible in > F-Spot, > > but full-size photos were not. > > > > Why can't I do something as simple as this: Tell F-spot to import > photos > > from certain folder and NOT copy the files ANYWHERE. Just import > the > > photos, but leave the actual files where they are! > > > > IIRC I ONCE managed to make F-spot really use the /multimedia/pics, > but > > even then, if I imported pics from my camera, F-Spot always > imported > > them to /home/photos. So my pictures were split among two > locations, > > when I really want to have all my pics in one location. > > > > Why is this so hard? It feels like that F-Spot has certain way of > > working, and it wont budge from that way. And I would have to > adjust my > > way of working to suit F-Spot. And we are not talking about > anything > > fundamental here, we are talking about the location where the > pictures > > are stored! Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com From suser.koolinus@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 19:18:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D6B3B0346 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07664-10 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA343B01CC for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:18:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id s2so2120990uge for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:18:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=NZ0TIAm0g+h+U15yh1RHHAeDqDs08Kt85AgWgdvYYkHW2mbbHdcPFhJ8G8A0SqngkqX09zpA20u0TdVmVwaNXYPP9+6Pz745RzlGi7OrM7rM+C4tUm6O+PaeGh8aYIO7mBViLeu2wNsnCFo80ZMUo88F2wlXeaVU1YyXASb9H4U= Received: by 10.67.101.10 with SMTP id d10mr4592676ugm; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:08:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.46.2? ( [151.49.12.117]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q40sm4531169ugc.2006.06.11.16.08.01; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:08:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:08:27 +0200 Message-Id: <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.243 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.201, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.243 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 23:18:58 -0000 Il giorno dom, 11/06/2006 alle 21.49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen ha scritto: > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > Well, I thought that I just described my problem. > Yeah, you _kind of_ described your problem, but you left out a lot of > details: > > * what version of f-spot are you running? > * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? > * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your > miserable state :-p Hi Thomas, the "importing" behaviour described by Janne in his mail has always occurred to me too. I have my images in /mnt/fat32partition/images. Importing them in F-Spot has always caused the creation of a /home/user/Photos directory exactly the *same* size of /mnt/fat32part/images before said and with an internal structure as: /home/user/Photos/year/month/day/filename.jpg This has happened to me at least with Ubuntu 5.10, Ubuntu 6.06, Mandriva 2006, SUSE 10.0 and Fedora Core 5, rightafter importing images in F-Spot at it's first launch. So it gotta be a pretty common problem. I didn't find Janne's mail offensive or anything than pissed off. Now we should understand if he's signaled a bug or a wanted feature ;-) -- nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito http://koolinus.wordpress.com http://www.koolinus.net "If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy." Linux Registered User #293182 From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 11 20:27:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692BA3B00B7 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:27:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10384-06 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:27:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (1-1-3-2a.ehn.lk.bostream.se [82.183.137.113]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04BB3B00ED for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:27:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by denton.thuree.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDACA3AA9B for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 02:00:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 194.237.142.5 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bengt) by denton.thuree.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:00:51 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <17672.194.237.142.5.1150070451.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> In-Reply-To: <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:00:51 +0900 (JST) From: "Bengt Thuree" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-thuree-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-thuree-MailScanner-From: bengt@thuree.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 00:27:31 -0000 On Må, 2006-06-12, 08:08, nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito skrev: > Il giorno dom, 11/06/2006 alle 21.49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen ha > scritto: > >> On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: >> > Well, I thought that I just described my problem. > >> Yeah, you _kind of_ described your problem, but you left out a lot of >> details: >> >> * what version of f-spot are you running? >> * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? >> * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your >> miserable state :-p > > > Hi Thomas, > the "importing" behaviour described by Janne in his mail has always > occurred to me too. > > I have my images in /mnt/fat32partition/images. > > Importing them in F-Spot has always caused the creation of > a /home/user/Photos directory exactly the *same* size > of /mnt/fat32part/images before said and with an internal structure > as: /home/user/Photos/year/month/day/filename.jpg That is what copy usually does :) And since we are talking about photos, it is way better to be safe than sorry. But Larry is working on changing the import handling. > > I didn't find Janne's mail offensive or anything than pissed off. Now we > should understand if he's signaled a bug or a wanted feature ;-) To be honest, I agree with Thomas in this one. The mail did come out a bit harsh perhaps. Thomas had some nice suggestions as well. But totally agreeing with the frustration of Janne and others though. Tried to reply yesterday with a number of bugs that are related to this issue, but the mail seems not to have arrived to f-spot-list yet. So, here comes the bugs http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333503 (which is your problem) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337250 (specify Photos place) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318519 (lots of complaints) etc.... Anyway, nothing bad from it, and it did also highlight the fact that F-Spot is popular and becoming more so. With this comes more people using it, and a lot more different ways. F-Spot needs to handle this one way or another. /Bengt From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Mon Jun 12 01:04:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D953B00A7 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:04:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19740-03 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:04:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C721B3B000D for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:03:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h2so829310nfe for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:03:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=XZwv6v70/NHOz01EwFUE6ornrJrDXriY6+7SkIj7j5oCDgDFiLQqN7lDNmOMISDVXbdAlM+QVaHoFSG91noL+dpavcs41jRrQzfms+EzLtj2hDA0xNkUP9uADc3OgEI1QUpcCGpVmkzOzunb+mW4lLjdFiDOZvHy3wdWJY9QvFU= Received: by 10.49.92.15 with SMTP id u15mr4521889nfl; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:03:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C0A840.access.telenet.be ( [84.192.168.64]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l21sm4214223nfc.2006.06.11.22.03.10; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:03:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: "nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito" In-Reply-To: <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:03:09 +0200 Message-Id: <1150088589.6432.4.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.364 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.236, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.364 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 05:04:03 -0000 Hi all, On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 01:08 +0200, nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito wrote: > Hi Thomas, > the "importing" behaviour described by Janne in his mail has always > occurred to me too. > > I have my images in /mnt/fat32partition/images. > > Importing them in F-Spot has always caused the creation of > a /home/user/Photos directory exactly the *same* size > of /mnt/fat32part/images before said and with an internal structure > as: /home/user/Photos/year/month/day/filename.jpg > What I think has happened to both of you is the following. When you open the import dialog and select a directory before you uncheck the "copy" button, I think - but I might be wrong, I would have to check - that f-spot copies the photos to the Photos directory. If you then uncheck the button and perform the actual import, everything is imported correctly, but the Photos directory is not cleaned up accordingly. > This has happened to me at least with Ubuntu 5.10, Ubuntu 6.06, Mandriva > 2006, SUSE 10.0 and Fedora Core 5, rightafter importing images in F-Spot > at it's first launch. So it gotta be a pretty common problem. > If I'm not mistaken, there have been several fixes for this in CVS head, which are not in any released version yet. Larry, can you confirm this? Best Regards, Thomas From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 12 07:12:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB01A3B0061 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32130-01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:12:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.136]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F813B0078 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:12:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.185]) by fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5BCiZD7003471 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:44:36 +1000 Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5BCdNrY002229 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:39:25 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:39:27 +1000 Message-Id: <1150029567.5937.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:12:33 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 14:31 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs are > unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, F-Spot > constantly fights against me. Well, the version number is still far from 1.0.0 :) > > I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the > import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, select > "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to photos-folder", > and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. After > the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is it? > Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem > (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to select > "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to find > out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me where > those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are located > in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the date > of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be > in /multimedia/pics/ > > I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the Photos-folder. > Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same set > of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I edit any > of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my > home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. Do the following: 1) Click on PLUS or choose File -> Import 2) Unselect COPY to Photos 3) Choose location of the photos to be imported 4) Perform the import And yes, there are numerous bugs in Bugzilla on the import function. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333503 (which is your problem) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337250 (specify Photos place) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318519 (lots of complaints) Larry has mention he is rewriting it to fix most or all of the problems. And yes, there is also a patch in allowing you to specify your own Photos location. F-Spot is a desktop application, and as such it is not that easy to share everything around. It is one thing to share the actual photos, but F-Spot also have a database located in ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db where all the tags are stored for quick reference. And yes, there has been a number of bugs/mails about this as well. Please feel free to file bugs in BugZilla, since then the chance that they are fixed is that much higher :) /bengt From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 12 09:26:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3D53B00D4 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:26:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04111-04 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:26:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7513B0010 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:26:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5CDPCVK022421 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:25:12 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: James Carroll In-Reply-To: References: <1150020822.5937.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:25:12 +1000 Message-Id: <1150118713.5937.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:26:05 -0000 Hi James Try the following 1) checkout a new version of F-Spot 2) cd to the just checkout directory 3) autogen.sh --prefix=/home//unstable/f-spot 4) make all 5) make install 6) cd ~/unstable/f-spot/bin 7) ./f-spot if this do not work, perhaps you can try to remove everything on your computer related to F-Spot? apt-get remove f-spot updatedb locate f-spot, and remove everything, and then start from 1 again? /Bengt From janne.ojaniemi@nbl.fi Mon Jun 12 14:02:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070DB3B08DE for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:02:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21917-09 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.nblnetworks.fi (smtp2.nblnetworks.fi [217.30.182.231]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024783B0504 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 12:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (xdsl-176-84.nblnetworks.fi [217.30.176.84]) by smtp2.nblnetworks.fi (8.13.1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k5CGtEtI005527; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:55:14 +0300 From: Janne Ojaniemi To: Thomas Van Machelen In-Reply-To: <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:52:41 +0300 Message-Id: <1150131161.7085.6.camel@serenity> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:02:32 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 21:49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > Hi Janne, > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 19:11 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > > Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long > > > rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: > > > > I apologize for my negativity. I really do. I had just spent quite a bit > > of time importing pictures, only to find out that I had bunch of photos > > in place where I did not want them. So I was quite pissed off when I > > wrote my initial message. > > > > I understand you were pissed off, but admit you were a bit hard ;-) Yeah, I was :(... > * what version of f-spot are you running? 0.11.1 > * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? It's the one that is available for Ubuntu. 0.11.1-1ubuntu1 > * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your > miserable state :-p I had bunch of pics in /multimedia/pics. I used the import-tool in F-spot to import them to F-spot. I did not want those pics to be copied from their present location, so I unselect the "copy to Photos-fodler". The problem it seems was that I unselected the "copy to..." AFTER I had selected the folder to import. When I unchecked it before the folder-selection, all works like it should :) From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Mon Jun 12 14:24:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E481B3B010E for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:24:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24480-01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC003B011A for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:24:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so955622nfc for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:24:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=kzTYyWOWYfIRDqbJi4IFTF9LCkkNOSdUcXlzQuHyZ7wffcZSKzrQce/Bjx6C6jJ5NJoU+Bl9wpyO/uPgKrJaL38IfTMWNmHH0cl31v2ns4ytzXT7lt1CZR89YdMA527OnedouvizgHC3o1i1J+lT44H0rJ/su2B4d7WtEFFlzq4= Received: by 10.49.3.16 with SMTP id f16mr5126203nfi; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C0A840.access.telenet.be ( [84.192.168.64]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id b1sm5919141nfe.2006.06.12.11.24.08; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:24:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150131161.7085.6.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> <1150131161.7085.6.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:24:07 +0200 Message-Id: <1150136647.5262.0.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.395 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.205, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.395 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:24:45 -0000 On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 19:52 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 21:49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > Hi Janne, > > > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 19:11 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > > > Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long > > > > rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: > > > > > > I apologize for my negativity. I really do. I had just spent quite a bit > > > of time importing pictures, only to find out that I had bunch of photos > > > in place where I did not want them. So I was quite pissed off when I > > > wrote my initial message. > > > > > > > I understand you were pissed off, but admit you were a bit hard ;-) > > Yeah, I was :(... > > > * what version of f-spot are you running? > > 0.11.1 > > > * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? > > It's the one that is available for Ubuntu. 0.11.1-1ubuntu1 > > > * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your > > miserable state :-p > > I had bunch of pics in /multimedia/pics. I used the import-tool in > F-spot to import them to F-spot. I did not want those pics to be copied > from their present location, so I unselect the "copy to Photos-fodler". > The problem it seems was that I unselected the "copy to..." AFTER I had > selected the folder to import. When I unchecked it before the > folder-selection, all works like it should :) > Cool, and as Larry confirmed this is fixed in cvs head, everybody's happy. Nice :-) From lewing@novell.com Mon Jun 12 15:26:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94DE3B00AF for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:26:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27322-01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:26:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6848E3B0010 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:26:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21900 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2006 18:24:00 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jun 2006 18:24:00 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:32:12 -0500 Message-Id: <1150137133.3676.21.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:26:57 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 14:31 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs are > unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, F-Spot > constantly fights against me. > > So I have a bunch of photos on my computer. They are NOT in my > home-folder, but rather in /multimedia/pics. This way they are > accessible to my wife as well. And in that directory, they are also > divided among different folders, named after the subject. This way I can > browse the pictures in filemanager as well, should the need arise. > Sounds simple enough? Yes it does. But why is this setup so difficult > for F-Spot to handle? > > I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the > import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, select > "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to photos-folder", > and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. After > the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is it? > Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem > (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to select > "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to find > out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me where > those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are located > in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the date > of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be > in /multimedia/pics/ > > I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the Photos-folder. > Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same set > of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I edit any > of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my > home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. > > I just re-tried the import, after I deleted the photos-folder from my > home. And again it copied the files to my home. I then deleted the > photos-folder again, and the thumbnails were still visible in F-Spot, > but full-size photos were not. > > Why can't I do something as simple as this: Tell F-spot to import photos > from certain folder and NOT copy the files ANYWHERE. Just import the > photos, but leave the actual files where they are! > > IIRC I ONCE managed to make F-spot really use the /multimedia/pics, but > even then, if I imported pics from my camera, F-Spot always imported > them to /home/photos. So my pictures were split among two locations, > when I really want to have all my pics in one location. > > Why is this so hard? It feels like that F-Spot has certain way of > working, and it wont budge from that way. And I would have to adjust my > way of working to suit F-Spot. And we are not talking about anything > fundamental here, we are talking about the location where the pictures > are stored! > The copy thing is a bug it was fixed a few weeks ago in cvs. There had been a couple of unsuccessful attempts to fix it before that. Selecting the import directories when using f-spot to do the import is on the list of things that will probably go in but hasn't been done (completely) yet. There are patches that have been sent to this list in the last few days that start to address the issue. I'm sorry you have found using f-spot so frustrating, but I can't do much more to help than try to resolve the problems. --Larry From lewing@novell.com Mon Jun 12 15:33:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4463B0078 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:33:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27527-02 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90DEB3B00AF for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21907 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2006 18:31:56 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jun 2006 18:31:56 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Thomas Van Machelen In-Reply-To: <1150088589.6432.4.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> <1150088589.6432.4.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:40:08 -0500 Message-Id: <1150137608.3676.31.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:33:14 -0000 On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 07:03 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > Hi all, > > On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 01:08 +0200, nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito wrote: > > Hi Thomas, > > the "importing" behaviour described by Janne in his mail has always > > occurred to me too. > > > > I have my images in /mnt/fat32partition/images. > > > > Importing them in F-Spot has always caused the creation of > > a /home/user/Photos directory exactly the *same* size > > of /mnt/fat32part/images before said and with an internal structure > > as: /home/user/Photos/year/month/day/filename.jpg > > > > What I think has happened to both of you is the following. When you > open the import dialog and select a directory before you uncheck the > "copy" button, I think - but I might be wrong, I would have to check - > that f-spot copies the photos to the Photos directory. If you then > uncheck the button and perform the actual import, everything is imported > correctly, but the Photos directory is not cleaned up accordingly. > Right this is roughly the version of the bug that dapper shipped with iirc. The latest code fixes all this hoop jumping as well. > > This has happened to me at least with Ubuntu 5.10, Ubuntu 6.06, Mandriva > > 2006, SUSE 10.0 and Fedora Core 5, rightafter importing images in F-Spot > > at it's first launch. So it gotta be a pretty common problem. > > > > If I'm not mistaken, there have been several fixes for this in CVS head, > which are not in any released version yet. Larry, can you confirm this? > I can, and as I've said in this an other messages this is fixed in cvs trunk and stable. I'd happily release a new stable version today if I had any reason to believe the various distributions would ship it, but they are all currently frozen so the utility of doing that is questionable. --Larry From lewing@novell.com Mon Jun 12 15:54:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBB83B00E5 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:54:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28147-01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E733B0078 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21861 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2006 18:06:42 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jun 2006 18:06:42 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Thomas Van Machelen In-Reply-To: <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:14:49 -0500 Message-Id: <1150136089.3676.6.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:54:51 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 21:49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > Hi Janne, > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 19:11 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > > Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long > > > rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: > > > > I apologize for my negativity. I really do. I had just spent quite a bit > > of time importing pictures, only to find out that I had bunch of photos > > in place where I did not want them. So I was quite pissed off when I > > wrote my initial message. > > > > I understand you were pissed off, but admit you were a bit hard ;-) > > > > 2. ask someone on irc, or on the mailing list to see if they could > > > reproduce the behaviour > > > > Well, I thought that I just described my problem. > > > > Yeah, you _kind of_ described your problem, but you left out a lot of > details: > > * what version of f-spot are you running? > * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? > * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your > miserable state :-p > > What I suggest you do is the following: > * remove the f-spot sqlite db, it's ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db > * re-start f-spot, perform the import again but uncheck the "copy" > checkbox _before_ you select a folder to import from > * open the f-spot database by executing > $sqlite ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db > * perform a select * from photos go and look at the paths that appear in > the output: do they point to your original directory or to the local > ~/Photos dir? Just to be clear, this "copy check doesn't work bug" should be fixed in both head and stable for about two weeks. For those interested in having and f-spot that isn't quite so buggy as what is currently shipping in dapper and/or fc5 but who don't want to track the cutting edge use the fspot_0_1_branch in cvs. At lot of things have been fixed since 0.1.11. --Larry From stephane@delcroix.org Tue Jun 13 04:09:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339AB3B00C9 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15736-04 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:09:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4767B3B008F for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:09:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4157 invoked by uid 503); 13 Jun 2006 08:09:45 -0000 Received: from b7.ovh.net (HELO mail150.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.57) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2006 08:09:45 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2006 08:07:58 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2006 08:07:55 -0000 From: Stephane Delcroix To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 10:08:23 +0200 Message-Id: <1150186103.5901.15.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.181 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.275, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558] X-Spam-Score: -1.181 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Speeding up F-Spot X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:09:21 -0000 I'd just like to point your attention on two patches sleeping in bugzilla. Both are related to speed up f-spot and responsiveness. If you only have time to try and report on two patches in the following days, choose those ones !!! WorkerThread + Database threading, bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337724, patch http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=66967 : A hard name for a very good patch. Allow f-spot to write metadata in the background (thing about tagging, adjusting time, changing orientation, ...). You can even stop f-spot with some background action remaining. Next time you start, the process will continue. Thumbs up to Ruben! Progressive redraw, bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343856, patch http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=67011 : Precache images when browsing in Edit View or in FullScreen View. No more apparent redraw. Amazing! Thanks wjbaird! rgds, Stephane From gcgaf-f-spot-list@m.gmane.org Tue Jun 13 22:01:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C9D3B00D4 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:01:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13167-07 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4522C3B00C8 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FqKfq-0004If-7N for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:00:02 +0200 Received: from dsl-165-255-37.telkomadsl.co.za ([165.165.255.37]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:00:02 +0200 Received: from nmarais by dsl-165-255-37.telkomadsl.co.za with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:00:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Neilen Marais Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 03:34:29 +0200 Lines: 181 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dsl-165-255-37.telkomadsl.co.za User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Big Collections/Complex Meta-data/Is F-spot (going) to be for me? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:01:05 -0000 Hi I have a pretty big image database (about 12k photos) with fairly complex meta-data maintained in KPhotoAlbum. I've been eying F-spot for a while, since it has a very active community, looks pretty and seems quite nice to use. I also prefer GNOME apps all else being equal. KPhotoAlbum is not quite as smooth, but it's interface seems more "scalable" to me, while F-spot tries (and manages very well) to make easy stuff easy. I'm also quite excited by F-spot's ability to handle picture versions and RAW files. I don't think scalable and easy need to be mutually exclusive though. I'll list some features in KPhotoAlbum that I find makes it very useful for large/complex collections, and why they are useful. Perhaps I can convince the right people that it may be useful to implement something similar (if not identical) in F-Spot. These comments refer to F-Spot 0.1.11, as shipped with Ubuntu Dapper. I'll refer to KPhotoAlbum as KP from here on to save typing. Separate "Namespaces" ===================== F-spot seems to require the last level of a tag to be unique. Besides offending my personal sense of logical aesthetics, it also poses practical problems ;P In KP, each top-level tag is called a Category, and the tags within each Category are completely independent. In my KP database I have a "People" category for people visible in the photo, and a "Photographer" category for the person who took the picture. Of course People can also be Photographers, but usually not at the same time. Also the total number of photographers aren't the same as the total number of peoplo. It's also possible that unrelated tags can coincidentally have the same name. E.g. if you travel all over the world and meet people from all over the world, it's not unlikely that some placename in one country may be the same as someones name in another. In fact, identical placenames are quite common. Places.USA.Alabama.Greenville is not the same as Places.USA.California.Greenville (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cities#Most_common_city_names for more fun.) One can disambiguate by having Greenville_CA, but I already told you it's in California, damnit ;) Actually this is a problem in KP as well, since it's doesn't do any hierarchy within a category. It does have membership groups that does something similar, but that does not solve this problem. Membership Groups ----------------- I think F-Spot's hierarchical tags can fill the same need, but I'll describe them so its clear what I'm talking about. I'll use the Places category as an example. Say the location is "Friendly Bob's House" in Pinelands (the town), Western Cape (the state), South Africa. In KP I can make the location "South Africa" a membership group. Then I can assign all the states in South Africa (that I have in my DB anyway) to this group (e.g. Western Cape, Gauteng, etc.). Then I make Western Cape another membership group, and assign all the cities to it (e.g. Pinelands, Cape Town, etc.). I make Pinelands a membership group, and add "Friendly Bob's house" to it. Now I tag the picture with only "Friendly Bob's house". Because of the membership groups, KP knows the picture also belongs to "Pinelands", "Western Cape" and "South Africa", and will be found by searches on any of those 4 locations. Of course, Locations.South Africa.Western Cape.Pinelands would do just as well. It will also be more explicit (good), and if F-Spot supported it, would be separate from Locations.South Africa.Kwazulu Natal.Pinelands (which also exists!) Default "And" searching ======================= >From reading the list it seems that F-Spot will get more searching options soon, but IMHO if you can have only one choice, "and" would be better than "or". I hope that when the more featureful searching comes, there will be an easy way to make the default "and". Restrict Tags when Searching ============================ This kind of goes together with the default "and" searching. KP's main interface shows you a list of top level tags, along with how many entries each has. e.g. Locations - 10 People - 6 Then you select People -> "Friendly Bob" You can then look at all the pictures containing Bob, or keep selecting search tags. However, all the tags that never occur with Bob are removed, e.g. Locations - 4 People - 3 I.o.w. you see only the Locations that Bob's been photographed at and only the people that have been photographed with Bob. Now select Locations -> "Friendly Bob's House", and look at the pictures of Bob at his house, or continue: Locations (greyed out, since there are no others) People - 2 Then you could choose to look at pictures of Bob with his wife, or Bob with his son. I like this feature for two reasons. 1) If you're and-searching, there's no point in seeing the tags that will result in no pictures being found. 2) Its nice to see, for instance, how many people you have photographed at a certain location. Scalable Tag Selection ====================== It's hard to compare KP directly to F-Spot here, since the interface paradigms are quite different, so I'll just sketch my problem. In KP I have 9 Categories (i.e. top level tags), and some of them have many subtags. E.g. Events - 143 Keywords - 21 Locations - 237 Persons - 203 Photographer - 33 I've only had a camera for about two years, but found I like both photography and detailed tagging. I'm sure these numbers will have grown considerably in 10 years time! I will always have at least one tag from each of the 5 categories I listed here attached to every picture, so it is critical that tags can be selected from a large selection easily. KP makes the default way of finding a tag incremental search, and also sorts tags in order of last use by default. It also manages each category completely separately which means the 100's of "Persons" tags don't make it hard to pick a tag from the "Keywords" category. While I haven't dealt with that many tags in F-Spot, my feeling is the tag toolbar/tree on the left of F-Spot will be fairly well suited to dealing with many tags. Other places, where there are flat lists with all tag hierarchies exploded, will probably be unpleasant to use. What I'd need to switch ======================= Like you care ;P Anyway, my needs in order of priority are 1) "Fully qualified" tag uniqueness (i.e. People.A != Places.A) 2) "And" searching 3) Tag Restrictions while and-searching 4) Improved UI for selecting from large numbers of tags 1) is completely critical, since I can't losslesly move my current data into F-Spot without it. 2) is pretty important. 3) and 4) would be nice to have, but not that important. If other people think it's a good idea, should I make feature requests on the F-spot bugzilla, or how should I go ahead? Thanks for listening Neilen -- you know its kind of tragic we live in the new world but we've lost the magic -- Battery 9 (www.battery9.co.za) From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 16 05:48:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633443B000B for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 05:48:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24488-02 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 05:48:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B126D3B0011 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 05:48:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1403732uge for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.17.1 with SMTP id 1mr940549huq; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:37:44 +0200 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Importing photos with tags MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:48:45 -0000 I have several hundered photos that were tagged in a Windows program (BrilliantPhoto). I can extract the tags with a script and create an XML file or SQL dump for the tags. How can I then import that into the F-spot database? Any documentation on the F-spot database would be helpful. Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://gmail-com.com From stephane@delcroix.org Fri Jun 16 10:22:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D667D3B0012 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:22:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31319-04 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:22:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09E23B0007 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:22:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19469 invoked by uid 503); 16 Jun 2006 14:23:03 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail56.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2006 14:23:02 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2006 14:20:45 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2006 14:20:42 -0000 Subject: plugin support for F-Spot From: Stephane Delcroix To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 16:20:57 +0200 Message-Id: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.500004/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.178 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.272, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558] X-Spam-Score: -1.178 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:22:25 -0000 Hi list, I've spend some time lately to develop a plugin facility for F-Spot. So far, I've a virtual plugin class, some methods to load plugins, and a testplugin. Thanks to Thomas and his solution to bug #344534, I've also a way to compile plugins without the F-Spot sources. The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my guess), but some people need this. I'll be happy to see any comments, remarks, requirements... regards, Stephane From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Fri Jun 16 21:25:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCE03B0204 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:25:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30558-07 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:25:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE40D3B01CC for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:25:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1829050uge for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.10 with SMTP id d10mr3246797ugm; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.27.18 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606161816l8e942a7w9c1623407f6fd397@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 05:16:36 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: plugin support for F-Spot In-Reply-To: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.909 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.133, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.909 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 01:25:33 -0000 On 6/16/06, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as > many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to > my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my > guess), but some people need this. Plug-in architecture is a very, very useful thing :) But in your approach it's not limited to exporting functions, right? Alexandre From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 16 21:34:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128F03B0208 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:34:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30551-08 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:34:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (1-1-3-2a.ehn.lk.bostream.se [82.183.137.113]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FC33B0234 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:34:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by denton.thuree.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E173AA93 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 03:08:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 194.237.142.10 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bengt) by denton.thuree.com with HTTP; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:08:46 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <54022.194.237.142.10.1150506526.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> In-Reply-To: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> References: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:08:46 +0900 (JST) Subject: Re: plugin support for F-Spot From: "Bengt Thuree" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-thuree-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-thuree-MailScanner-From: bengt@thuree.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 01:34:22 -0000 On Fr, 2006-06-16, 23:20, Stephane Delcroix skrev: > Hi list, > > I've spend some time lately to develop a plugin facility for F-Spot. So > far, I've a virtual plugin class, some methods to load plugins, and a > testplugin. Thanks to Thomas and his solution to bug #344534, I've also > a way to compile plugins without the F-Spot sources. > > The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as > many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to > my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my > guess), but some people need this. > > I'll be happy to see any comments, remarks, requirements... Cool, this will come in very handy I think. Also another plugin area would be to import old data. I can see a lot of users are having existing data in another format, and they would like to import it to F-Spot. F-Spot will probably handle the main import areas in core, but Mr XXX Super Duper Photo Software's format. Have you raised an enhancement bug so we kan track this one? /Bengt From bengt@thuree.com Sat Jun 17 04:47:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7872D3B02F8 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 04:47:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14722-04 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 04:47:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail27.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail27.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.168]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC973B010F for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 04:47:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail27.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5H8jqUY013434; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:45:53 +1000 Subject: Re: Importing photos with tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:45:51 +1000 Message-Id: <1150533952.6150.8.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.526 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.074, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.526 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 08:47:13 -0000 > > Thanks, I'll look into that. I'm really a novice, what I can do is > extract the IPTC data that the tags are currently in with PHP and then > produce a text file (be it XML or SQL) to work with. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > Actually, have a look at the JPG file first. If the tags are stored in IPTC as well as in XMP format, you should be able to use the patch I wrote to let F-Spot read XMP data. IViewMedia Pro, were only supposed to store in IPTC as far as I understood, but they also stored the tags in XMP format. Also, I think that F-Spot has prepared to deal with IPTC tags as well. Have a look and see in IptcFile.cs, and see if you can create a new patch based on the XMP importer? Anyway, gthumb stores its tags in an xml file per photo, so you can take a look at that patch. Good Luck /Bengt From dotancohen@gmail.com Sat Jun 17 12:23:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDE23B000D for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26967-02 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0C53B00D5 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:23:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2011270uge for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:22:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.47.9 with SMTP id u9mr1409565huu; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 19:21:59 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Import/ Export of tags MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 16:23:20 -0000 As I'm trying to decide which photo organiser to use (between DigiKam, F-spot, and KPhotoAlbum) I would really appreciate the ability to move photos from one program to the other and to keep my tags intact. A user on the Digikam mailing list had mentioned that he would like to tag his photos 'in the field' on his laptop and to import them into the program when he gets home. I think that a kipi Import/ Export feature would solve both our problems. It would create an XML file similar to this: People*Ester People*Studies*Eli People*Studies*Anna Place*Haifa People*Ester People*Dotan People*Army*Jacob Place*Jerusalem This can easily be imported by any application, and it provides for hierarchical tags. (levels seperated by asteriks) What does the F-spot community think of this? Would you like to be able to work on the tags on the go and to import them later? And to easily move from application to application? This would also provide a secure way to back up the current sqlite database in an accessable manner. (any text editor could open it) Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com 332 From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 18 06:32:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3623B0967 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:32:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18535-06 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.136]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B8E3B071B for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail26.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail26.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.167]) by fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5GLVAwQ011181 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 07:31:10 +1000 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail26.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5GLU5TO023274; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 07:30:05 +1000 Subject: Re: Importing photos with tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:29:56 +1000 Message-Id: <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.528 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.072, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.528 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:32:28 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 11:37 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I have several hundered photos that were tagged in a Windows program > (BrilliantPhoto). I can extract the tags with a script and create an > XML file or SQL dump for the tags. How can I then import that into the > F-spot database? Any documentation on the F-spot database would be > helpful. > > Thanks in advance. > Hi there are two patches in bugzilla that enable importing existing GThumb metadata, and iView Media Pro meta data (in fact also existing F-Spot meta data). http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322366 - GThumb tags http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 - F-Spot tags Perhaps you can write a small patch your self? And create a bug in bugzilla and attach it to :) /Bengt From jordan.d.miller@gmail.com Sun Jun 18 07:11:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6DE33B09F5 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:11:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20389-08 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F023B0939 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:11:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2178963uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.8 with SMTP id d8mr4041428ugm; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.32.4 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:10:27 -0500 From: "Jordan Miller" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: F-spot user forum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8200_13353278.1150629027803" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.055 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_00_10=0.795, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: 0.055 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:14 -0000 ------=_Part_8200_13353278.1150629027803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot Project page if there isn't one already. I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum structure. Thoughts, Jordan ------=_Part_8200_13353278.1150629027803 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot Project page if there isn't one already.

I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum structure.

Thoughts,

Jordan
------=_Part_8200_13353278.1150629027803-- From drberg1000@gmail.com Sun Jun 18 11:11:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029813B0C2B for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32093-09 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B203B0C12 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1035507pyd for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.103.12 with SMTP id f12mr7129453pym; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.82.13 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:03:41 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: "Jordan Miller" Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.383 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.217, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.383 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:11:11 -0000 On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > Project page if there isn't one already. I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as familiar with the programming tools. --Dave > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > structure. > > Thoughts, > > Jordan > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > From ken@vandine.org Sun Jun 18 14:20:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931943B00B2 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:20:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07107-02 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239F63B000A for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.107] (cpe-071-065-240-185.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.240.185]) by ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5IHXuDe018625; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:33:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: F-spot user forum From: Ken VanDine To: David Berg In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:33:52 -0400 Message-Id: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.236 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.364, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.236 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:20:15 -0000 Actually, f-spot.org is a wiki. MediaWiki to be precise. I know MW has support for a forum like commenting system. Not sure what folks thing about using that. --Ken On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 10:03 -0500, David Berg wrote: > On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > > Project page if there isn't one already. > > I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow > documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as > familiar with the programming tools. > > --Dave > > > > > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > > structure. > > > > Thoughts, > > > > Jordan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 18 18:54:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD953B0071 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:54:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12735-04 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:54:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.193]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6591D3B00AF for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5IMrQQY020575 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:53:27 +1000 Subject: Re: F-spot user forum From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:53:26 +1000 Message-Id: <1150671206.5383.3.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.529 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.071, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.529 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:54:57 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 10:03 -0500, David Berg wrote: > On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > > Project page if there isn't one already. > > I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow > documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as > familiar with the programming tools. f-spot.org is a wiki.... > > --Dave > > > > > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > > structure. > > > > Thoughts, > > > > Jordan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Sun Jun 18 19:52:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAAD23B0308 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:52:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15600-10 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:52:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC7C3B0E41 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:50:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2307846uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.10 with SMTP id d10mr1288767ugm; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.27.18 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606181649t6dc94c14s1c97d0c9d48b301a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:49:16 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.005 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.037, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.005 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:52:21 -0000 On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > structure. Why would you choose forum over existing wiki for storing ideas? Alexandre From gcgaf-f-spot-list@m.gmane.org Sun Jun 18 20:07:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADEC43B0223 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:07:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16137-07 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10243B0182 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:07:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Fs7GI-0003iB-2J for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:05:03 +0200 Received: from p54a1afb2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.161.175.178]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:05:02 +0200 Received: from colin by p54a1afb2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:05:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Colin Marquardt Subject: Re: F-spot user forum Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:59:33 +0200 Organization: I'd rather call it chaos. Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54a1afb2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de Mail-Copies-To: never X-Draft-From: ("gmane.comp.gnome.apps.f-spot" 805) X-message-flag: Please don't add me to your address book if you are using Outlook. Thanks, Colin. X-Now-Playing: Orphaned Land / Sahara -- [05] Seasons Unite X-Jabber-UID: cmarqu (see http://www.jabber.org) X-Home-Page: http://www.marquardt-home.de X-GnuPG-Key: gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.us.pgp.net --recv-keys 5359F413 X-Fingerprint: 6D9B 01B4 F8B9 500F 3056 D74F D27F EBF5 5359 F413 Cancel-Lock: sha1:K6/SELyPp8F6RwGWPi+X9Qrpu/k= Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.577 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.024, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.577 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:07:13 -0000 "Jordan Miller" writes: > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > Project page if there isn't one already. > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > structure. If you think more about searching and reading, how's this?: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.f-spot/1578 Cheers, Colin From drberg1000@gmail.com Sun Jun 18 22:52:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929363B03A9 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21279-10 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:52:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B2F3B0210 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:52:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1125529pyd for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.127.15 with SMTP id e15mr7784197pyn; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.82.13 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:51:02 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: "Ken VanDine" Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.393 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.207, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.393 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:52:06 -0000 On 6/18/06, Ken VanDine wrote: > Actually, f-spot.org is a wiki. MediaWiki to be precise. I know MW has > support for a forum like commenting system. Not sure what folks thing > about using that. Looking closer at the website I do see that it says MediaWiki. Though there doesn't seem to be any way to create an account. The "Create an Account or Log In" link doesn't allow for account creation. I guess I'm also not used to sites where information can only be accessed through searching for it or using a direct link. Perhaps a mechanism to browse the wiki would be useful. Perhaps I'm missing something when navigating the website but by looking at the main pages and a few of the ones they link to I don't see anything that would indicate there is more to the site than what I can see by browsing. --Dave > --Ken > > > On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 10:03 -0500, David Berg wrote: > > On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > > > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > > > Project page if there isn't one already. > > > > I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow > > documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as > > familiar with the programming tools. > > > > --Dave > > > > > > > > > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > > > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > > > structure. > > > > > > Thoughts, > > > > > > Jordan > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > F-spot-list mailing list > > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > From dotancohen@gmail.com Mon Jun 19 00:39:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400D23B0D22 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:39:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24632-05 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:39:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D353B0B1B for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:39:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2369453uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.33.17 with SMTP id g17mr1774973hug; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:38:39 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.408 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.366, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.408 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 04:39:53 -0000 I would be willing to run an f-spot FAQ site if someone would help me verify the correctness of the answers. Anybody who is interested can email me off list. My last wiki project turned into a hammer-the-spammer chase. If anybody has any questions with answers for a FAQ, then email them to me. I'll start compiling them and put them on a website. I haven't yet registered a name, but as soon as I see interest in the site from the list members I'll register one and get it started. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Mon Jun 19 01:42:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11923B0D4C for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:42:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26495-08 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:41:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15E43B0D43 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2393587uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.100.17 with SMTP id c17mr3950298ugm; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.27.18 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:41:16 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.788 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.812, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.788 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:42:00 -0000 On 6/19/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I would be willing to run an f-spot FAQ site if someone would help me > verify the correctness of the answers. Anybody who is interested can > email me off list. > > My last wiki project turned into a hammer-the-spammer chase. If > anybody has any questions with answers for a FAQ, then email them to > me. I'll start compiling them and put them on a website. I haven't yet > registered a name, but as soon as I see interest in the site from the > list members I'll register one and get it started. Why on Earth? We can simply grant you commit access to wiki. Alexandre From dotancohen@gmail.com Mon Jun 19 02:11:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93A63B02CF for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27360-08 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:11:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902943B00F5 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:11:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2407385uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.45.13 with SMTP id s13mr1846834hus; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:10:05 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.08 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.520, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.08 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 06:11:09 -0000 On 19/06/06, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > > Why on Earth? > > We can simply grant you commit access to wiki. > > Alexandre Have you seen what fedorafaq.org has done for Fedora? It's all the same information that is available in Fedora's wiki, but in a Q/A format on a single page. Also, and this may sound rediculous but it's true, having both the wiki and a seperate FAQ site is two sites supporting f-spot, rather than one. Even if they have mostly the same information. That's important for people googling solutions or considering a switch to fspot. I, for one, have reservations about switching to a product with very little in the way of online documentation. This will add to the amount of online documentation resources available to the community. I don't want to replace the wiki, rather to make a seperate source of information that is more concice and easier to digest. Dotan Cohen From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 19 05:06:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9093B0014 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01595-07 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:06:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fallbackmx02.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.72]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611453B0004 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:06:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail30.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail30.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.193]) by fallbackmx02.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5HLg71e010142 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:42:08 +1000 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail30.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5HLaHle030266; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:36:18 +1000 Subject: Re: Import/ Export of tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:36:16 +1000 Message-Id: <1150580177.6150.24.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.53 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.070, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.53 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:06:53 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-17 at 19:21 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > As I'm trying to decide which photo organiser to use (between DigiKam, > F-spot, and KPhotoAlbum) I would really appreciate the ability to move > photos from one program to the other and to keep my tags intact. A > user on the Digikam mailing list had mentioned that he would like to > tag his photos 'in the field' on his laptop and to import them into > the program when he gets home. I think that a kipi Import/ Export > feature would solve both our problems. It would create an XML file > similar to this: > > > People*Ester > People*Studies*Eli > People*Studies*Anna > Place*Haifa > > > > People*Ester > People*Dotan > People*Army*Jacob > Place*Jerusalem > Where should this file be. Same place as the photo? or other place? One file per photo, same as GThumb does it, or one file for all photos? Could be great to have it implemented with the new Plugin feature though :) So, with this way, you are not allowed to use a "*" as a character in any of your tags I take it? > > This can easily be imported by any application, and it provides for > hierarchical tags. (levels seperated by asteriks) > > What does the F-spot community think of this? Would you like to be > able to work on the tags on the go and to import them later? And to > easily move from application to application? This would also provide a > secure way to back up the current sqlite database in an accessable > manner. (any text editor could open it) In my humble opinion there is only one place to definitely store the tags to ensure that they follow the picture and that the tags are readable by any application. That would be embedded inside the photo in a standard way. Like EXIF/XMP. Then you do not need to worry about the tag file dissapears or (in your case) the photo location changes. Not to mention worry about what happends over the years, since EXIF/XMP follows the standard, then that should be as future proof we can get. This is one of the main reason I choose to go with F-Spot, since the other applications you mentioned do not store the tags embedded inside the photo (yet). Me, it is not always I travel with a laptop, but I have a portable harddisk which I store the photos on. If you want to tag photos on the field on your laptop, why not simply tag them directly in F-Spot in that case? Regarding backing up the SQlite database by storing the tags in an XML file, I do not think so. The SQlite database contains already more information than only the tags, and this will likely just increase. The main place for the tags to be backed up, would be that they are backed up together with the photo since the tags are stored embedded inside the photo also. As I mentioned above. This would be a great feature for the new plugin method some are working on. My humble AUD 0.02 cent /Bengt From mvermaat@cs.vu.nl Mon Jun 19 07:00:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A507A3B0091 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:00:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05478-01 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:00:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069583B008F for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:00:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from olympiaplein.xs4all.nl (olympiaplein.xs4all.nl [80.126.168.64]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5JAxGsm088831 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:59:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mvermaat@cs.vu.nl) Subject: Re: F-spot user forum From: Martijn Vermaat To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:59:27 +0200 Message-Id: <1150714768.5522.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.581 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.018, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.581 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 11:00:20 -0000 Op ma, 19-06-2006 te 09:10 +0300, schreef Dotan Cohen: > Also, and this may sound rediculous but it's true, having both the > wiki and a seperate FAQ site is two sites supporting f-spot, rather > than one. Even if they have mostly the same information. That's > important for people googling solutions or considering a switch to > fspot. I, for one, have reservations about switching to a product with > very little in the way of online documentation. This will add to the > amount of online documentation resources available to the community. While I appreciate your enthousiasm, you should be carefull with this. As an example, in the Ubuntu community I see more and more problems originating from 'third-party' documentation. Sometimes it's someone's ego, sometimes they just don't know how to contribute to the official sources, but documentation scattered around the web is a problem for a number of reasons: * Unfortunately, a lot of howto's and tutorials are of questionable quality and advocate bad practice solutions. There's no way for the project to control this. * Maintainability is a problem. New versions of the software require updated documentation. * Almost never are these howto's and tutorials available in more than one language. The official documentation for Ubuntu gets translated by the translation teams. F-Spot has not translated its homepage I think, but it could in the future. * Last but not least, duplicate efforts are often a waste of time, especially when the official source for documentation could have been improved and/or the alternative source is harder to find. Some alternative sources of documentation don't suffer from most or all of these problems, but I know that all these problems are serious for the Ubuntu community. I don't think other projects are different. > I don't want to replace the wiki, rather to make a seperate source of > information that is more concice and easier to digest. Why not add some sort of FAQ page to the wiki in the form you envision? If people really need it, I think you would certainly be allowed to work on that. -- Martijn Vermaat mvermaat@cs.vu.nl http://www.cs.vu.nl/~mvermaat/ From dkoeb@ist.tugraz.at Mon Jun 19 16:13:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134363B0217 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:13:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30271-07 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:12:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chicago097.thex.at (chicago097.thex.at [217.172.179.97]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CADB13B0D15 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leia.peony.at ([192.168.3.19]) by chicago097.thex.at (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id k5JKBegx001484 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:11:42 +0200 Received: from [192.168.5.108] (chello080109204215.2.sc-graz.chello.at [80.109.204.215]) (authenticated bits=0) by leia.peony.at (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id k5JKBFrJ007489 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:11:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Daniel_K=F6b?= Subject: Re: F-spot user forum Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:10:24 +0200 To: David Berg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at chicago097 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 20:13:01 -0000 Am 19.06.2006 um 04:51 schrieb David Berg: > I guess I'm also not used to sites where information can only be > accessed through searching for it or using a direct link. Perhaps a > mechanism to browse the wiki would be useful. Maybe you find one of these pages useful: http://f-spot.org/Special:Specialpages Daniel From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Mon Jun 19 22:05:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302153B0CC5 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:05:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16756-06 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:05:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.203]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958883B0ABD for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:05:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id x3so1236027nzd for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.251.10 with SMTP id y10mr6140024qbh; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f16sm2671314qba.2006.06.19.18.57.59; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:58:04 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list Subject: Re: F-spot user forum References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 02:05:45 -0000 Dotan Cohen wrote: > Have you seen what fedorafaq.org has done for Fedora? It's all the > same information that is available in Fedora's wiki, but in a Q/A > format on a single page. > > Also, and this may sound rediculous but it's true, having both the > wiki and a seperate FAQ site is two sites supporting f-spot, rather > than one. Even if they have mostly the same information. That's > important for people googling solutions or considering a switch to > fspot. I, for one, have reservations about switching to a product with > very little in the way of online documentation. This will add to the > amount of online documentation resources available to the community. I think this sounds pretty dangerous. F-spot is a great product, and I don't think having a second artificially created website will make it any more accepted or popular. Also, I think it would be bad to have a FAQ maintained separately from the main website - it would mean that the core contributors would have to log into two places to maintain things. Any time you put documentation in two places, you greatly increase the likelyhood of it going out of sync. However, having a FAQ section/page on the current site would be wonderful, and if you are still interested in doing it, I think that would be great! Warren From bengt@thuree.com Tue Jun 20 03:04:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A453B0F28 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:04:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31178-08 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:03:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (1-1-3-2a.ehn.lk.bostream.se [82.183.137.113]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC463B0DE5 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:03:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by denton.thuree.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905F13AA9B for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:02:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 194.237.142.21 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bengt) by denton.thuree.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:02:33 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <15179.194.237.142.21.1150786953.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> In-Reply-To: <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:02:33 +0900 (JST) Subject: Re: F-spot user forum From: "Bengt Thuree" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-thuree-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-thuree-MailScanner-From: bengt@thuree.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:04:01 -0000 On Ti, 2006-06-20, 10:58, Warren Baird skrev: > Dotan Cohen wrote: >> Have you seen what fedorafaq.org has done for Fedora? It's all the >> same information that is available in Fedora's wiki, but in a Q/A >> format on a single page. >> > > I think this sounds pretty dangerous. F-spot is a great product, and I > don't think having a second artificially created website will make it > any more accepted or popular. Definitely second this > > Also, I think it would be bad to have a FAQ maintained separately from > the main website - it would mean that the core contributors would have > to log into two places to maintain things. Again, definitely second this > However, having a FAQ section/page on the current site would be > wonderful, and if you are still interested in doing it, I think that > would be great! Just to repeat myself... Again, definitely second this To have the same material in many places will just cause a lot of problems. On the other hand, having reviews of F-Spot, or links to F-Spot in many places would be very nice. Another thing I have been thinking of, is to create a Concept Guide (and perhaps a Help manual). If you are unsure what I am talking about, please check GnuCash concept guide. Here is the link to the CVS version. http://cvs.gnucash.org/docs/guide/ This is created in DocBook format, and is easily converted to Gnome help format, can be read by Yelp, can be converted to PDF as well as to TXT format. But, perhaps best to wait a bit until F-Spot gets a bit closer to 1.0? Then again, we should be able to come up with wich chapters we should have, and fill in general things, and possible more detailed information as well. The bad thing though, the more detailed the information is, the more often you will have to change since F-Spot is still under heavy development... My small 0.02 cents... /Bengt From stephane@delcroix.org Tue Jun 20 03:24:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28353B0F09 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32166-07 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:23:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6003B0EE3 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:23:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1703 invoked by uid 503); 20 Jun 2006 07:23:55 -0000 Received: from b7.ovh.net (HELO mail156.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.57) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 07:23:55 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 07:15:20 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 07:15:13 -0000 Subject: F-Spot plug-ins From: Stephane Delcroix To: F-Spot list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq" Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:16:03 +0200 Message-Id: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.941 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.523, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -1.941 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:24:02 -0000 --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone, I'm quite proud to give you this patch, adding support for loading plug-ins into F-Spot. I'll submit it to b.g.o. soon. For now, all Plugins in all .dll in $HOME/.gnome2/f-spot/plugins are loaded, but I plan to write another plugin to enable them at will. The patch include Thomas's solution to #344534, so you can compile plug-ins from outside the source tree using: mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot MyPlugin.cs Find also attached below 2 plugins, one displaying a dialog about plugins, and a first Export Plug-in, for sending mail (the export code is just a cut and paste from F-Spot core code). Those 2 plugins compile with: mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 DialogPlugin.cs mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 SendMailPlugin.cs It's a first and very early version, so write a lot of comments about it... rgds, Stephane --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=plugins.patch Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=plugins.patch; charset=ANSI_X3.4-1968 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: Makefile.am =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/Makefile.am,v retrieving revision 1.13 diff -u -p -r1.13 Makefile.am --- Makefile.am 17 Feb 2006 17:02:32 -0000 1.13 +++ Makefile.am 19 Jun 2006 15:54:03 -0000 @@ -17,6 +17,9 @@ desktop_in_files= \ desktop_files=$(desktop_in_files:.desktop.in=.desktop) @INTLTOOL_DESKTOP_RULE@ +pkgconfigdir = $(libdir)/pkgconfig +pkgconfig_DATA = f-spot.pc + Applicationsdir = $(datadir)/applications Applications_DATA = $(desktop_files) @@ -30,6 +33,7 @@ EXTRA_DIST = \ intltool-extract.in \ intltool-merge.in \ intltool-update.in \ + f-spot.pc.in \ f-spot.spec \ $(desktop_in_files) \ $(desktop_files) Index: configure.in =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/configure.in,v retrieving revision 1.102 diff -u -p -r1.102 configure.in --- configure.in 24 May 2006 15:44:42 -0000 1.102 +++ configure.in 19 Jun 2006 15:54:03 -0000 @@ -182,6 +182,7 @@ po/Makefile.in src/Defines.cs src/f-spot.exe.config src/Makefile +f-spot.pc f-spot.spec f-spot.desktop.in ]) Index: src/Global.cs =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/src/Global.cs,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -p -r1.8 Global.cs --- src/Global.cs 22 Mar 2006 19:14:41 -0000 1.8 +++ src/Global.cs 19 Jun 2006 15:54:03 -0000 @@ -18,6 +18,12 @@ namespace FSpot { } } + public static string PluginsDirectory { + get { + return System.IO.Path.Combine (BaseDirectory, "plugins"); + } + } + public static void ModifyColors (Gtk.Widget widget) { try { Index: src/MainWindow.cs =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/src/MainWindow.cs,v retrieving revision 1.298 diff -u -p -r1.298 MainWindow.cs --- src/MainWindow.cs 9 Jun 2006 23:24:57 -0000 1.298 +++ src/MainWindow.cs 19 Jun 2006 15:54:05 -0000 @@ -44,6 +44,7 @@ public class MainWindow { [Glade.Widget] MenuItem rename_version_menu_item; [Glade.Widget] MenuItem export; + [Glade.Widget] MenuItem export_menu_item; [Glade.Widget] MenuItem print; [Glade.Widget] MenuItem send_mail; @@ -107,6 +108,8 @@ public class MainWindow { PhotoVersionMenu versions_submenu; + ExportMenu export_submenu; + Gtk.ToggleButton browse_button; Gtk.ToggleButton edit_button; @@ -376,6 +379,10 @@ public class MainWindow { // When the icon_view is loaded, set it's initial scroll position icon_view.SizeAllocated += HandleIconViewReady; +System.Console.WriteLine("###############################################"); +FSpot.Plugins.Plugger plugger = new FSpot.Plugins.Plugger(); +System.Console.WriteLine("###############################################"); + UpdateToolbar (); } @@ -1463,7 +1470,8 @@ public class MainWindow { "Joshua Tauberer", "Joerg Buesse", "Jakub Steiner", - "Xavier Bouchoux" + "Xavier Bouchoux", + "Stephane Delcroix" }; // Translators should localize the following string @@ -2495,6 +2503,9 @@ public class MainWindow { version_menu_item.Submenu = versions_submenu; } + export_submenu = new ExportMenu (); + export_menu_item.Submenu = export_submenu; + set_as_background.Sensitive = single_active; adjust_color.Sensitive = single_active; adjust_time.Sensitive = active_selection; @@ -2905,4 +2916,12 @@ public class MainWindow { { toolTips.SetTip (widget, tip, null); } + + // + //Hooks for plugin + // + public void HandleExportWithPlugin (FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin ex_plugin) { + ex_plugin.DoExport(new FSpot.PhotoArray (SelectedPhotos ())); + } + } Index: src/Makefile.am =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/src/Makefile.am,v retrieving revision 1.63 diff -u -p -r1.63 Makefile.am --- src/Makefile.am 26 Apr 2006 20:31:07 -0000 1.63 +++ src/Makefile.am 19 Jun 2006 15:54:06 -0000 @@ -25,6 +25,7 @@ F_SPOT_CSDISTFILES = \ $(srcdir)/DirectoryCollection.cs \ $(srcdir)/ExceptionDialog.cs \ $(srcdir)/Exif.cs \ + $(srcdir)/ExportMenu.cs \ $(srcdir)/FlickrExport.cs \ $(srcdir)/FlickrRemote.cs \ $(srcdir)/FileImportBackend.cs \ @@ -79,6 +80,7 @@ F_SPOT_CSDISTFILES = \ $(srcdir)/PixbufUtils.cs \ $(srcdir)/PixbufCache.cs \ $(srcdir)/PixelBuffer.cs \ + $(srcdir)/Plugins.cs \ $(srcdir)/PreferenceDialog.cs \ $(srcdir)/Preferences.cs \ $(srcdir)/PreviewPopup.cs \ Index: src/f-spot.glade =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/src/f-spot.glade,v retrieving revision 1.164 diff -u -p -r1.164 f-spot.glade --- src/f-spot.glade 6 Jun 2006 18:09:47 -0000 1.164 +++ src/f-spot.glade 19 Jun 2006 15:54:20 -0000 @@ -7250,6 +7250,20 @@ Photo Details + + + + True + + + + + + True + Export plugins + True + + @@ -7272,7 +7286,7 @@ Photo Details - + True gnome-stock-mail-fwd 1 @@ -7297,8 +7311,8 @@ Photo Details _Close True - + @@ -7635,7 +7649,7 @@ Photo Details True _Folder True - False + True month --- /dev/null 2006-06-19 09:02:49.376262000 +0200 +++ src/Plugins.cs 2006-06-19 17:38:29.000000000 +0200 @@ -0,0 +1,120 @@ +/* + * Plugins.cs + * + * Authors: + * Stephane Delcroix + * + * Copyright (C) 2006 Stephane Delcroix + * + */ + + +using System; +using System.Reflection; + +using System.Collections; + +using FSpot; + +namespace FSpot.Plugins { + + public class Plugger { + private static System.Collections.Hashtable plugins = new System.Collections.Hashtable(); + + public static string [] PluginsList { + get { + string [] list = new String[plugins.Count]; + plugins.Keys.CopyTo(list,0); + return list; + } + } + + public static string [] LoadedPlugins (System.Type type) { + ArrayList loadedplugins = new ArrayList(); + foreach (string plugin in PluginsList){ + if ( ((Plugin)plugins[plugin]).IsLoaded && (plugins[plugin]).GetType().IsSubclassOf(type)) + loadedplugins.Add(plugin); + } + return (string [])loadedplugins.ToArray(typeof(System.String)); + } + + public static string [] LoadedPlugins() { return LoadedPlugins(typeof(FSpot.Plugins.Plugin)); } + + public static Plugin Plugin(string ShortName) + { + return (Plugin)plugins[ShortName]; + } + + public Plugger () + { + LoadPluginsFromDirectory(FSpot.Global.PluginsDirectory); + InitializePlugins(PluginsList); + } + + public void LoadPluginsFromDirectories (string [] directories) + { + foreach ( String directory in directories ) + LoadPluginsFromDirectory (directory); + } + + private void LoadPluginsFromDirectory (string path) + { + foreach ( String dll in System.IO.Directory.GetFiles(path, "*.dll") ) + LoadPluginsFromFile(dll); + } + + private void LoadPluginsFromFile(string pluginfile) + { + Console.WriteLine ("Loading plugins from {0}...", pluginfile); + Assembly assembly = Assembly.LoadFile(pluginfile); + Type [] ts = assembly.GetTypes(); + foreach (Type t in ts){ + if ( t.IsSubclassOf(typeof(FSpot.Plugins.Plugin)) ){ + Plugin plugin = (Plugin)assembly.CreateInstance(t.ToString()); + Console.WriteLine("{0} available", t); + //FIXME: check if ShortName already exists in plugins[] + plugins [plugin.ShortName] = plugin; + } else + Console.WriteLine("{0} is NOT a Plugin", t); + } + } + + public void InitializePlugins(string [] pluginslist) + { + foreach (String plugin in pluginslist) { + ((Plugin)plugins[plugin]).Load(); + } + } + } + + public abstract class Plugin { + public abstract string DisplayName { get; } + public virtual string ShortName { get { return DisplayName; } } + public abstract string Description { get; } + private bool Loaded = false; + + public bool IsLoaded { + get { return Loaded; } + } + + public Plugin () + { + } + + public void Load () { + PluginInitialize(); + Loaded = true; + } + + protected abstract void PluginInitialize(); + } + + public abstract class ExportPlugin: Plugin { + public abstract string MenuEntryName { get; } + public void HandleMenuItemActivated(object sender, EventArgs args) + { + MainWindow.Toplevel.HandleExportWithPlugin(this); + } + public abstract void DoExport(IBrowsableCollection selectedphotos); + } +} --- /dev/null 2006-06-19 09:02:49.376262000 +0200 +++ src/ExportMenu.cs 2006-06-19 16:30:49.000000000 +0200 @@ -0,0 +1,28 @@ +using Gtk; +using GtkSharp; +using System; + +namespace FSpot { + public class ExportMenu : Menu { + public ExportMenu () + { + string [] exportplugins = FSpot.Plugins.Plugger.LoadedPlugins(typeof(FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin)); + + if ( exportplugins == null || exportplugins.Length == 0 ) { + MenuItem menu_item = new MenuItem ("No Export Plug-in available"); + menu_item.Show(); + menu_item.Sensitive = false; + Append(menu_item); + } + foreach (string shortname in exportplugins) { + FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin plugin = (FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin)FSpot.Plugins.Plugger.Plugin(shortname); + MenuItem menu_item = new MenuItem (plugin.MenuEntryName); + menu_item.Show(); + menu_item.Sensitive = true; + menu_item.Activated += new EventHandler (plugin.HandleMenuItemActivated); + + Append(menu_item); + } + } + } +} --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=DialogPlugin.cs Content-Type: text/x-csharp; name=DialogPlugin.cs; charset=ANSI_X3.4-1968 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit using System; using FSpot; using FSpot.Plugins; namespace FSpot.Plugins { public class DialogPlugin: FSpot.Plugins.Plugin { public override string DisplayName { get { return "Dialog Plugin"; } } public override string ShortName { get { return "DialogPlugin"; } } public override string Description { get { return "Warn the user about using plugins"; } } protected override void PluginInitialize() { Console.WriteLine("Initializing Dialog Plugin"); String header = "Plug-ins enabled version of F-Spot"; String msg = "You are running a plug-ins enabled version of F-Spot" + "\nPlug-ins can crash your F-Spot, delete all your images, and " + "completely destroy your database." + "\nYou have been warned! Don't fill any bug report " + "regarding plug-ins"; HigMessageDialog.RunHigMessageDialog(MainWindow.Toplevel.Window, Gtk.DialogFlags.DestroyWithParent, Gtk.MessageType.Warning, Gtk.ButtonsType.Ok,header,msg); } } } --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=SendMailPlugin.cs Content-Type: text/x-csharp; name=SendMailPlugin.cs; charset=ANSI_X3.4-1968 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit using System; using FSpot; using FSpot.Plugins; namespace FSpot.Plugins { public class SendMailPlugin: FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin { public override string DisplayName { get { return "Send Mail Plugin"; } } public override string ShortName { get { return "SendMailPlugin"; } } public override string Description { get { return "Create an e-mail with your photos attached"; } } public override string MenuEntryName { get { return "Send Mail...";} } protected override void PluginInitialize() { Console.WriteLine("Initializing Send Mail Plugin"); } public override void DoExport (IBrowsableCollection sel_photos) { Photo [] photos = (Photo [])sel_photos.Items; System.Text.StringBuilder url = new System.Text.StringBuilder ("mailto:?subject=my%20photos"); foreach (Photo p in photos) { url.Append ("&attach=" + UriList.EscapeString (p.DefaultVersionUri.LocalPath, true, true, true)); } Gnome.Url.Show (url.ToString ()); Console.WriteLine ("Exporting {0} pictures", sel_photos.Count); } } } --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq-- From nmarais@snowisp.com Tue Jun 20 05:13:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95F73B0097 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:13:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05163-09 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:13:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ctb-mesg7.saix.net (ctb-mesg7.saix.net [196.25.240.77]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80823B0ECC for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:13:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from office.snowballeffect.net (dsl-165-225-212.telkomadsl.co.za [165.165.225.212]) by ctb-mesg7.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD702366F for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:12:36 +0200 (SAST) Received: (qmail 29551 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2006 13:50:59 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.20.130.19?) (10.20.130.19) by 192.168.20.58 with (RC4-MD5 encrypted) SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 13:50:59 +0200 Subject: Big Collections/Complex Meta-data/Is F-Spot (going to be) for me? From: Neilen Marais To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:12:18 +0200 Message-Id: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.533 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.533 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:13:43 -0000 Hi I have a pretty big image database (about 12k photos) with fairly complex meta-data maintained in KPhotoAlbum. I've been eying F-spot for a while, since it has a very active community, looks pretty and seems quite nice to use. I'm quite excited by F-spot's ability to handle picture versions and RAW files. I also prefer GNOME apps all else being equal. KPhotoAlbum is not quite as smooth, but it's interface seems more "scalable" to me, while F-spot tries (and manages very well) to make easy stuff easy. I don't think scalable and easy need to be mutually exclusive though. I'll list some features in KPhotoAlbum that I find makes it very useful for large/complex collections, and why they are useful. Perhaps I can convince the right people that it may be useful to implement something similar (if not identical) in F-Spot. These comments refer to F-Spot 0.1.11, as shipped with Ubuntu Dapper. I'll refer to KPhotoAlbum as KP from here on to save typing. Separate "Namespaces" ===================== F-spot seems to require the last level of a tag to be unique. Besides offending my personal sense of logical aesthetics, it also poses practical problems ;P In KP, each top-level tag is called a Category, and the tags within each Category are completely independent. In my KP database I have a "People" category for people visible in the photo, and a "Photographer" category for the person who took the picture. Of course People can also be Photographers, but usually not at the same time. Also the total number of photographers aren't the same as the total number of people. It's also possible that unrelated tags can coincidentally have the same name. E.g. if you travel all over the world and meet people from all over the world, it's not unlikely that some placename in one country may be the same as someones name in another. In fact, identical placenames are quite common. Places.USA.Alabama.Greenville is not the same as Places.USA.California.Greenville (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cities#Most_common_city_names for more fun.) One can disambiguate by having Greenville_CA, but I already told you it's in California, damnit ;) Actually this is a problem in KP as well, since it's doesn't do any hierarchy within a category. It does have membership groups that does something similar, but that does not solve this problem. Membership Groups ----------------- I think F-Spot's hierarchical tags can fill the same need, but I'll describe them so its clear what I'm talking about. I'll use the Places category as an example. Say the location is "Friendly Bob's House" in Pinelands (the town), Western Cape (the state), South Africa. In KP I can make the location "South Africa" a membership group. Then I can assign all the states in South Africa (that I have in my DB anyway) to this group (e.g. Western Cape, Gauteng, etc.). Then I make Western Cape another membership group, and assign all the cities to it (e.g. Pinelands, Cape Town, etc.). I make Pinelands a membership group, and add "Friendly Bob's house" to it. Now I tag the picture with only "Friendly Bob's house". Because of the membership groups, KP knows the picture also belongs to "Pinelands", "Western Cape" and "South Africa", and will be found by searches on any of those 4 locations. Of course, Locations.South Africa.Western Cape.Pinelands would do just as well. It will also be more explicit (good), and if F-Spot supported it, would be separate from Locations.South Africa.Kwazulu Natal.Pinelands (which also exists!) Default "And" searching ======================= >From reading the list it seems that F-Spot will get more searching options soon, but IMHO if you can have only one choice, "and" would be better than "or". I hope that when the more featureful searching comes, there will be an easy way to make the default "and". Restrict Tags when Searching ============================ This kind of goes together with the default "and" searching. KP's main interface shows you a list of top level tags, along with how many entries each has. e.g. Locations - 10 People - 6 Then you select People -> "Friendly Bob" You can then look at all the pictures containing Bob, or keep selecting search tags. However, all the tags that never occur with Bob are removed, e.g. Locations - 4 People - 3 I.o.w. you see only the Locations that Bob's been photographed at and only the people that have been photographed with Bob. Now select Locations -> "Friendly Bob's House", and look at the pictures of Bob at his house, or continue: Locations (greyed out, since there are no others) People - 2 Then you could choose to look at pictures of Bob with his wife, or Bob with his son. I like this feature for two reasons. 1) If you're and-searching, there's no point in seeing the tags that will result in no pictures being found. 2) Its nice to see, for instance, how many people you have photographed at a certain location. Scalable Tag Selection ====================== It's hard to compare KP directly to F-Spot here, since the interface paradigms are quite different, so I'll just sketch my problem. In KP I have 9 Categories (i.e. top level tags), and some of them have many subtags. E.g. Events - 143 Keywords - 21 Locations - 237 Persons - 203 Photographer - 33 I've only had a camera for about two years, but found I like both photography and detailed tagging. I'm sure these numbers will have grown considerably in 10 years time! I will always have at least one tag from each of the 5 categories I listed here attached to every picture, so it is critical that tags can be selected from a large selection easily. KP makes the default way of finding a tag incremental search, and also sorts tags in order of last use by default. It also manages each category completely separately which means the 100's of "Persons" tags don't make it hard to pick a tag from the "Keywords" category. While I haven't dealt with that many tags in F-Spot, my feeling is the tag toolbar/tree on the left of F-Spot will be fairly well suited to dealing with many tags. Other places, where there are flat lists with all tag hierarchies exploded, will probably be unpleasant to use. What I'd need to switch ======================= Like you care ;P Anyway, my needs in order of priority are 1) "Fully qualified" tag uniqueness (i.e. People.A != Places.A) 2) "And" searching 3) Tag Restrictions while and-searching 4) Improved UI for selecting from large numbers of tags 1) is completely critical, since I can't losslesly move my current data into F-Spot without it. 2) is pretty important. 3) and 4) would be nice to have, but not that important. If other people think it's a good idea, should I make feature requests on the F-spot bugzilla, or how should I go ahead? Thanks for listening Neilen -- you know its kind of tragic we live in the new world but we've lost the magic -- Battery 9 (www.battery9.co.za) From stephane@delcroix.org Tue Jun 20 05:38:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3E33B0329 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:38:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06374-04 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:38:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B85A3B02FA for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:38:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28829 invoked by uid 503); 20 Jun 2006 09:38:57 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail56.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 09:38:57 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 09:37:27 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 09:37:25 -0000 Subject: Re: F-Spot plug-ins From: Stephane Delcroix To: F-Spot list In-Reply-To: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> References: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:37:26 +0200 Message-Id: <1150796247.5909.31.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.152 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.246, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558] X-Spam-Score: -1.152 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:38:37 -0000 the bug in b.g.o.: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345395 On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 09:16 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm quite proud to give you this patch, adding support for loading > plug-ins into F-Spot. I'll submit it to b.g.o. soon. > > For now, all Plugins in all .dll in $HOME/.gnome2/f-spot/plugins are > loaded, but I plan to write another plugin to enable them at will. > > The patch include Thomas's solution to #344534, so you can compile > plug-ins from outside the source tree using: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot MyPlugin.cs > > Find also attached below 2 plugins, one displaying a dialog about > plugins, and a first Export Plug-in, for sending mail (the export code > is just a cut and paste from F-Spot core code). > > Those 2 plugins compile with: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 DialogPlugin.cs > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 SendMailPlugin.cs > > It's a first and very early version, so write a lot of comments about > it... > > rgds, > > Stephane > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list -- Stephane Delcroix stephane@delcroix.org From bengt@thuree.com Tue Jun 20 06:31:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18373B00FE for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 06:31:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08584-07 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 06:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.196]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BEB33B0248 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 06:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5KAUR3H011245; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:30:33 +1000 Subject: Re: F-Spot plug-ins From: Bengt Thuree To: Stephane Delcroix In-Reply-To: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> References: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:30:26 +1000 Message-Id: <1150799426.5458.0.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.531 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.531 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:31:48 -0000 On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 09:16 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm quite proud to give you this patch, adding support for loading > plug-ins into F-Spot. I'll submit it to b.g.o. soon. > > For now, all Plugins in all .dll in $HOME/.gnome2/f-spot/plugins are > loaded, but I plan to write another plugin to enable them at will. > > The patch include Thomas's solution to #344534, so you can compile > plug-ins from outside the source tree using: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot MyPlugin.cs > > Find also attached below 2 plugins, one displaying a dialog about > plugins, and a first Export Plug-in, for sending mail (the export code > is just a cut and paste from F-Spot core code). > > Those 2 plugins compile with: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 DialogPlugin.cs > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 SendMailPlugin.cs > > It's a first and very early version, so write a lot of comments about > it... > hier > rgds, > > Stephane Congratulations :) Looks good to me, not the best on plugins though. Would it be easy to add plugins for any part of F-Spot, or only for Export? /Bengt From stephane@delcroix.org Tue Jun 20 07:50:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556F33B078A for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:50:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12349-08 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1703B044D for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:49:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5534 invoked by uid 503); 20 Jun 2006 11:50:17 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail15.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 11:50:16 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 11:48:38 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 11:48:34 -0000 Subject: Re: Big Collections/Complex Meta-data/Is F-Spot (going to be) for me? From: Stephane Delcroix To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:48:43 +0200 Message-Id: <1150804124.5909.60.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.139 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.233, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558] X-Spam-Score: -1.139 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:50:00 -0000 Hi, Some of your needs are already work in progress. Check http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338558 for fully-qualified tag uniqueness, it's a strong request but solving it will require re-coding the 'Tag Typing'. Check http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139796 for advanced queries. It's one of the oldest bug request / patch in f-spot. You can CC your email address to follow the discussion about them. I like the idea of displaying more info about the selection (items per tag, ...). You can probably submit a enhancement request in bugzilla and attach a mockup of the UI. As always in F-Spot, the problem is not writing code to solve an issue, it's about writing good code and give the user a nice experience. Thanks for your report, Stephane On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 11:12 +0200, Neilen Marais wrote: > Hi > > I have a pretty big image database (about 12k photos) with fairly > complex meta-data maintained in KPhotoAlbum. I've been eying F-spot for > a while, since it has a very active community, looks pretty and seems > quite nice to use. I'm quite excited by F-spot's ability to handle > picture versions and RAW files. I also prefer GNOME apps all else being > equal. > > KPhotoAlbum is not quite as smooth, but it's interface seems more > "scalable" to me, while F-spot tries (and manages very well) to make > easy stuff easy. I don't think scalable and easy need to be mutually > exclusive though. > > I'll list some features in KPhotoAlbum that I find makes it very useful > for large/complex collections, and why they are useful. Perhaps I can > convince the right people that it may be useful to implement something > similar (if not identical) in F-Spot. > > These comments refer to F-Spot 0.1.11, as shipped with Ubuntu Dapper. > I'll refer to KPhotoAlbum as KP from here on to save typing. > > Separate "Namespaces" > ===================== > > F-spot seems to require the last level of a tag to be unique. Besides > offending my personal sense of logical aesthetics, it also poses > practical problems ;P > > In KP, each top-level tag is called a Category, and the tags within each > Category are completely independent. In my KP database I have a "People" > category for people visible in the photo, and a "Photographer" category > for the person who took the picture. Of course People can also be > Photographers, but usually not at the same time. Also the total number > of photographers aren't the same as the total number of people. > > It's also possible that unrelated tags can coincidentally have the same > name. E.g. if you travel all over the world and meet people from all > over the world, it's not unlikely that some placename in one country may > be the same as someones name in another. > > In fact, identical placenames are quite common. > Places.USA.Alabama.Greenville is not the same as > Places.USA.California.Greenville (see > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cities#Most_common_city_names for > more fun.) One can disambiguate by having Greenville_CA, but I already > told you it's in California, damnit ;) > > Actually this is a problem in KP as well, since it's doesn't do any > hierarchy within a category. It does have membership groups that does > something similar, but that does not solve this problem. > > Membership Groups > ----------------- > > I think F-Spot's hierarchical tags can fill the same need, but I'll > describe them so its clear what I'm talking about. > > I'll use the Places category as an example. Say the location is > "Friendly Bob's House" in Pinelands (the town), Western Cape (the > state), South Africa. In KP I can make the location "South Africa" a > membership group. Then I can assign all the states in South Africa (that > I have in my DB anyway) to this group (e.g. Western Cape, Gauteng, > etc.). Then I make Western Cape another membership group, and assign all > the cities to it (e.g. Pinelands, Cape Town, etc.). I make Pinelands a > membership group, and add "Friendly Bob's house" to it. > > Now I tag the picture with only "Friendly Bob's house". Because of the > membership groups, KP knows the picture also belongs to "Pinelands", > "Western Cape" and "South Africa", and will be found by searches on any > of those 4 locations. > > Of course, Locations.South Africa.Western Cape.Pinelands would do just > as well. It will also be more explicit (good), and if F-Spot supported > it, would be separate from Locations.South Africa.Kwazulu > Natal.Pinelands (which also exists!) > > Default "And" searching > ======================= > > >From reading the list it seems that F-Spot will get more searching > options soon, but IMHO if you can have only one choice, "and" would be > better than "or". I hope that when the more featureful searching comes, > there will be an easy way to make the default "and". > > Restrict Tags when Searching > ============================ > > This kind of goes together with the default "and" searching. KP's main > interface shows you a list of top level tags, along with how many > entries each has. e.g. > > Locations - 10 > People - 6 > > Then you select People -> "Friendly Bob" > > You can then look at all the pictures containing Bob, or keep selecting > search tags. However, all the tags that never occur with Bob are > removed, e.g. > > Locations - 4 > People - 3 > > I.o.w. you see only the Locations that Bob's been photographed at and > only the people that have been photographed with Bob. > > Now select Locations -> "Friendly Bob's House", > > and look at the pictures of Bob at his house, or continue: > > Locations (greyed out, since there are no others) > People - 2 > > Then you could choose to look at pictures of Bob with his wife, or Bob > with his son. > > I like this feature for two reasons. > > 1) If you're and-searching, there's no point in seeing the tags that > will result in no pictures being found. > 2) Its nice to see, for instance, how many people you have photographed > at a certain location. > > Scalable Tag Selection > ====================== > > It's hard to compare KP directly to F-Spot here, since the > interface paradigms are quite different, so I'll just sketch my problem. > In KP I have 9 Categories (i.e. top level tags), and some of them have > many subtags. E.g. > > Events - 143 > Keywords - 21 > Locations - 237 > Persons - 203 > Photographer - 33 > > I've only had a camera for about two years, but found I like both > photography and detailed tagging. I'm sure these numbers will have grown > considerably in 10 years time! > > I will always have at least one tag from each of the 5 categories I > listed here attached to every picture, so it is critical that tags can > be selected from a large selection easily. KP makes the default way of > finding a tag incremental search, and also sorts tags in order of last > use by default. It also manages each category completely separately > which means the 100's of "Persons" tags don't make it hard to pick a tag > from the "Keywords" category. > > While I haven't dealt with that many tags in F-Spot, my feeling is the > tag toolbar/tree on the left of F-Spot will be fairly well suited to > dealing with many tags. Other places, where there are flat lists with > all tag hierarchies exploded, will probably be unpleasant to use. > > What I'd need to switch > ======================= > > Like you care ;P Anyway, my needs in order of priority are > > 1) "Fully qualified" tag uniqueness (i.e. People.A != Places.A) > 2) "And" searching > 3) Tag Restrictions while and-searching > 4) Improved UI for selecting from large numbers of tags > > 1) is completely critical, since I can't losslesly move my current data > into F-Spot without it. > 2) is pretty important. > > 3) and 4) would be nice to have, but not that important. > > If other people think it's a good idea, should I make feature requests > on the F-spot bugzilla, or how should I go ahead? > > Thanks for listening > Neilen > -- Stephane Delcroix stephane@delcroix.org From bengt@thuree.com Tue Jun 20 08:47:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885573B0458 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15956-03 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:47:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.196]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E5F3B0452 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:47:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5KCkoxJ024455; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:46:51 +1000 Subject: Re: IPTC Tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606190501r3cfac1fbp86b66427944c2f81@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> <1150580384.6150.28.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606190501r3cfac1fbp86b66427944c2f81@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:46:50 +1000 Message-Id: <1150807610.5458.5.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.533 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.067, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.533 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:47:59 -0000 Hi I tested it a bit, and F-Spot do read (in MetaData browser) the Keyword field. But none of the others (as I read somewhere on the web, they are not following the standard IPTC standard.) Hopefully, you can still base your patch on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 and get it to work with IPTC files. Check IptcFile.cs also. Good luck. /Bengt From lewing@novell.com Wed Jun 21 10:46:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D453B1035 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13755-02 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:45:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0983B0FD5 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:45:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3202 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2006 14:45:50 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.6.126?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jun 2006 14:45:50 -0000 Subject: Re: Importing photos with tags From: Larry Ewing To: Bengt Thuree In-Reply-To: <1150533952.6150.8.camel@workie.thuree.com> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> <1150533952.6150.8.camel@workie.thuree.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:53:56 -0500 Message-Id: <1150901636.8583.2.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:46:00 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-17 at 18:45 +1000, Bengt Thuree wrote: > > > > Thanks, I'll look into that. I'm really a novice, what I can do is > > extract the IPTC data that the tags are currently in with PHP and then > > produce a text file (be it XML or SQL) to work with. > > > > Dotan Cohen > > > > http://what-is-what.com > > > > Actually, have a look at the JPG file first. > If the tags are stored in IPTC as well as in XMP format, you should be > able to use the patch I wrote to let F-Spot read XMP data. > IViewMedia Pro, were only supposed to store in IPTC as far as I > understood, but they also stored the tags in XMP format. > > Also, I think that F-Spot has prepared to deal with IPTC tags as well. > Have a look and see in IptcFile.cs, and see if you can create a new > patch based on the XMP importer? > > Anyway, gthumb stores its tags in an xml file per photo, so you can take > a look at that patch. > All the metadata formats that f-spot parses it also can convert to XMP, that is how the extended metadata section in the metadata dialog is created. The code could use some polish but it should make normalizing the import code fairly simple. As a side note, it would be good if the gthumb parsing code could convert to XMP as well. --Larry From lewing@novell.com Wed Jun 21 10:51:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B772A3B0FA3 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14185-06 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43713B0EB3 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:51:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3228 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2006 14:51:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.6.126?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jun 2006 14:51:21 -0000 Subject: Re: plugin support for F-Spot From: Larry Ewing To: Stephane Delcroix In-Reply-To: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> References: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:59:31 -0500 Message-Id: <1150901971.8583.8.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.465 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.066, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.465 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:51:28 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 16:20 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Hi list, > > I've spend some time lately to develop a plugin facility for F-Spot. So > far, I've a virtual plugin class, some methods to load plugins, and a > testplugin. Thanks to Thomas and his solution to bug #344534, I've also > a way to compile plugins without the F-Spot sources. > > The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as > many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to > my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my > guess), but some people need this. > Sounds great. Import, export, editing, file format, metadata and sychronization are all possible plug-in entry points. The ImageFile code is meant to be trivially converted into a plugable system. The main issue with export as a plug in is dealing with the ui a sane way that avoids the gimp giant menu trap but also isn't too limiting on what sort of UI the plug-in can present to the user. I've given it a fair amount of thought, I'll try to write down what I've come up with in the next couple of days as i prepare for guadec. --Larry From bengt@thuree.com Wed Jun 21 18:22:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17AD3B00E4 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09445-06 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:22:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DEC3B03ED for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:21:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5LMLnqs031828; Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:21:50 +1000 Subject: Re: Importing photos with tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Larry Ewing In-Reply-To: <1150901636.8583.2.camel@blue.site> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> <1150533952.6150.8.camel@workie.thuree.com> <1150901636.8583.2.camel@blue.site> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:21:49 +1000 Message-Id: <1150928510.5385.9.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.534 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.066, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.534 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 22:22:17 -0000 On Wed, 2006-06-21 at 09:53 -0500, Larry Ewing wrote: > All the metadata formats that f-spot parses it also can convert to XMP, > that is how the extended metadata section in the metadata dialog is > created. The code could use some polish but it should make normalizing > the import code fairly simple. As a side note, it would be good if the > gthumb parsing code could convert to XMP as well. Convert to XMP? The gthumb as well as XMP parsing code, simply finds the tags, and then creates them the normal way with including storing them embedded inside the photo. Or did I miss something? > needs_commit |= gthumb.Import (photo, orig_path); > if (needs_commit) > store.Commit (photo); > /Bengt From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 23 13:39:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69EF3B04C1 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:39:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28028-07 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:39:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0C13B0813 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:39:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1216488uge for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.151.3 with SMTP id y3mr1393310hud; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606231039s39eadf04h3ab13415f0e8d48e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:39:24 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Accessing tags with PHP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.21 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.390, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.21 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:39:28 -0000 I have set up f-spot to store the tags in the picture files themselves. How can I access these tags with PHP? I do know how to access IPTC tags with PHP but not the tags that f-spot uses. A simple working code example would be very, very much appreciated. Also, are the tags UTF-8? If not, what charset are they? This is the code that I use to access IPTC: "; print "People: ".$iptc["2#118"][0]."
"; print "Place: ".$iptc["2#027"][0]."
"; print "Event: ".$iptc["2#105"][0]."
"; print "Date: ".$iptc["2#055"][0]."
"; print "Time: ".$iptc["2#060"][0]."
"; ?> Note that the IPTC tags used here are not to standard, they are as per the excellent windows software BrilliantPhoto. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com From ruben@Lambda1.be Fri Jun 23 17:13:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280F73B06F5 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:13:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05460-02 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:13:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oola.is.scarlet.be (oola.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.23]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EE93B0847 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:13:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ([62.235.141.211]) by oola.is.scarlet.be with ESMTP id k5NLDoA04650; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:13:50 +0200 Received: by localhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C1005460466; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:13:49 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Accessing tags with PHP From: Ruben Vermeersch To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606231039s39eadf04h3ab13415f0e8d48e@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606231039s39eadf04h3ab13415f0e8d48e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:13:47 +0200 Message-Id: <1151097227.14599.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: oola 2020; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.59 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.59 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 21:13:56 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 20:39 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I have set up f-spot to store the tags in the picture files > themselves. How can I access these tags with PHP? I do know how to > access IPTC tags with PHP but not the tags that f-spot uses. A simple > working code example would be very, very much appreciated. > > Also, are the tags UTF-8? If not, what charset are they? > > This is the code that I use to access IPTC: > $size = GetImageSize ("/path/to/pic.jpg", &$info); > $iptc = iptcparse($info["APP13"]); > > print "Keywords: ".$iptc["2#025"][0]."
"; > print "People: ".$iptc["2#118"][0]."
"; > print "Place: ".$iptc["2#027"][0]."
"; > print "Event: ".$iptc["2#105"][0]."
"; > print "Date: ".$iptc["2#055"][0]."
"; > print "Time: ".$iptc["2#060"][0]."
"; > ?> > > Note that the IPTC tags used here are not to standard, they are as per > the excellent windows software BrilliantPhoto. As far as I know, f-spot stores tags in XMP metadata, so you'll have to extract it from XMP, not IPTC (but I could be wrong). Kind regards, Ruben Vermeersch -- Ruben Vermeersch (rubenv) http://www.Lambda1.be/ From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 23 18:04:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C69C3B0927 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:04:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07514-05 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:04:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1AC3B0905 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:04:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so59320uge for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.178.5 with SMTP id a5mr1448914huf; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606231504n399728ddh4fd14ca2404c998@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 01:04:07 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: "Ruben Vermeersch" Subject: Re: Accessing tags with PHP In-Reply-To: <1151097227.14599.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <880dece00606231039s39eadf04h3ab13415f0e8d48e@mail.gmail.com> <1151097227.14599.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.288 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.312, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.288 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:04:10 -0000 On 24/06/06, Ruben Vermeersch wrote: > On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 20:39 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I have set up f-spot to store the tags in the picture files > > themselves. How can I access these tags with PHP? I do know how to > > access IPTC tags with PHP but not the tags that f-spot uses. A simple > > working code example would be very, very much appreciated. > > > > Also, are the tags UTF-8? If not, what charset are they? > > > > This is the code that I use to access IPTC: > > > $size = GetImageSize ("/path/to/pic.jpg", &$info); > > $iptc = iptcparse($info["APP13"]); > > > > print "Keywords: ".$iptc["2#025"][0]."
"; > > print "People: ".$iptc["2#118"][0]."
"; > > print "Place: ".$iptc["2#027"][0]."
"; > > print "Event: ".$iptc["2#105"][0]."
"; > > print "Date: ".$iptc["2#055"][0]."
"; > > print "Time: ".$iptc["2#060"][0]."
"; > > ?> > > > > Note that the IPTC tags used here are not to standard, they are as per > > the excellent windows software BrilliantPhoto. > > As far as I know, f-spot stores tags in XMP metadata, so you'll have to > extract it from XMP, not IPTC (but I could be wrong). > > Kind regards, > Ruben Vermeersch > Thanks, that was clear to me. I have since found this: http://www.ozhiker.com/electronics/pjmt/library/list_contents.php4?show_fn=XMP.php But I have yet to put together working code. I'll play with ti a bit this week, but if anybody has a wheel that I don't need to reinvent, I'd appreciate seeing it. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://gmail-com.com From mailmarkh@googlemail.com Sat Jun 24 06:07:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 586A73B0146 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:07:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05863-08 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.199]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183BD3B01DC for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id t5so236733wxc for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 03:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.38.3 with SMTP id l3mr6022830wxl; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 03:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.59.10 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 03:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:07:39 +0100 From: "Mark Howard" Sender: mailmarkh@googlemail.com To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Import from disk and auto-tag MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 343ccbe359cdc39a X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:07:41 -0000 Hi, I have a large collection of photos organised on disk by directory structure. I would like f-spot to import these and automatically tag each photo based on the directory that it's in. There doesn't seem to be any gui tool for this (without specifying each directory and tag separately, which is not an option for such a large collection). Is there any other way to do this? Perhaps some (hidden) way of specifying a tag when using f-spot --import , so that I could write a simple script to do it? Many thanks in advance for any comments. Sorry if this has been asked before - I couldn't find anything through google and the mailing list search is currently broken. Mark Howard From bengt@thuree.com Sat Jun 24 06:56:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8B73B00D4 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:56:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08180-08 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:56:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C393B013A for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:56:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5OAuI9Z014916; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:56:19 +1000 Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag From: Bengt Thuree To: Mark Howard In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:56:19 +1000 Message-Id: <1151146579.13629.3.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.535 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.535 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:56:24 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 11:07 +0100, Mark Howard wrote: > Hi, > > I have a large collection of photos organised on disk by directory > structure. I would like f-spot to import these and automatically tag > each photo based on the directory that it's in. There doesn't seem to > be any gui tool for this (without specifying each directory and tag > separately, which is not an option for such a large collection). Is > there any other way to do this? Perhaps some (hidden) way of > specifying a tag when using f-spot --import , so that I could > write a simple script to do it? > > Many thanks in advance for any comments. Sorry if this has been asked > before - I couldn't find anything through google and the mailing list > search is currently broken. Sorry, but currently F-Spot do not support this. Please see bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344426 in bugzilla for a similar enhancement request. /Bengt From andreas.henden@vice-chairman.net Sat Jun 24 10:40:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3EF23B06FA for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:40:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19727-03 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gordons.ginandtonic.no (gordons.ginandtonic.no [195.159.29.69]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA973B0490 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host-81-191-129-68.bluecom.no ([81.191.129.68] helo=skrue.andeby) by gordons.ginandtonic.no with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1Fu9Io-0002Gv-71 for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:40:02 +0200 Subject: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg From: Andreas Henden To: f-spot-list Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:39:32 +0200 Message-Id: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.72 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.744, BAYES_05=-1.11, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -1.72 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:40:09 -0000 Hi I want sometimes to convert some of my cr2 files into jpg for sending by mail or something like that. I have used gimp but I can't seem to get so nice colors with gimp that is the default setting in f-spot. So I'm asking for two things. Will there be any function for converting from cr2 too jpg and or is there any way to get the same result with any command line tool or any other tool with not too much effort! -- Andreas Henden From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Sat Jun 24 10:44:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8283B07F1 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19693-10 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:44:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.195]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE393B0490 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:44:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i1so1389294nzh for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.148.4 with SMTP id v4mr1106859qbd; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f14sm166591qba.2006.06.24.07.44.05; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 07:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:44:10 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.461 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.138, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_XM=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.461 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:44:08 -0000 Mark Howard wrote: > Hi, > > I have a large collection of photos organised on disk by directory > structure. I would like f-spot to import these and automatically tag > each photo based on the directory that it's in. There doesn't seem to > be any gui tool for this (without specifying each directory and tag > separately, which is not an option for such a large collection). Is > there any other way to do this? Perhaps some (hidden) way of > specifying a tag when using f-spot --import , so that I could > write a simple script to do it? There's no mechanism to do this automatically - however, there are some patches for bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 that will make this relatively easy --- the patch I submitted against the bug will take simple xmp-like "sidecar" files at import and create tags for them. Basically you need to write a script that creates for every file foo.jpg, a file called foo.jpg.xmp - the contents should look like this: Tag 1 Tag 2 ... Tag N Then with my patch, when you do the import, the tags will be created (if necessary), and attached to each photo appropriately. Hope this helps. Warren From brian@brianpuccio.net Sat Jun 24 11:28:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDFF3B03C2 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:28:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22438-02 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:28:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server1.digitalrhapsody.com (server1.digitalrhapsody.com [204.15.133.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E3F3B08B4 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.13] (ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net [69.122.156.56]) by server1.digitalrhapsody.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1109BB7E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) In-Reply-To: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-2-1057010543" Message-Id: <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Brian Puccio Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:28:22 -0400 To: f-spot-list X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:28:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --Apple-Mail-2-1057010543 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Jun 24, 2006, at 10:39 AM, Andreas Henden wrote: > > I want sometimes to convert some of my cr2 files into jpg for > sending by > mail or something like that. I have used gimp but I can't seem to > get so > nice colors with gimp that is the default setting in f-spot. So I'm > asking for two things. Will there be any function for converting from > cr2 too jpg and or is there any way to get the same result with any > command line tool or any other tool with not too much effort! Look into tools like ufraw (it has a batch commandline mode) and dcraw (upon which ufraw is based) --Apple-Mail-2-1057010543 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQFEnVoW/FtTOrvSQB8RAnG9AJ0Wb432u5t30Lix+zC/slAr2o0TiQCfdN08 IHM6Bae6FzdD4L8k1WAliYc= =ztTX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-2-1057010543-- From andreas.henden@vice-chairman.net Sat Jun 24 12:37:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F973B01DC for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:37:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25834-01 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gordons.ginandtonic.no (gordons.ginandtonic.no [195.159.29.69]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC79B3B017E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host-81-191-129-68.bluecom.no ([81.191.129.68] helo=skrue.andeby) by gordons.ginandtonic.no with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1FuB8K-0002fs-9T; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:37:20 +0200 Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg From: Andreas Henden To: Brian Puccio In-Reply-To: <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:36:51 +0200 Message-Id: <1151167012.6113.12.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.417 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.047, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.417 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:37:45 -0000 the thing is that the default colors in f-spot is much nicer than with ufraw. On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 11:28 -0400, Brian Puccio wrote: > On Jun 24, 2006, at 10:39 AM, Andreas Henden wrote: > > > > I want sometimes to convert some of my cr2 files into jpg for > > sending by > > mail or something like that. I have used gimp but I can't seem to > > get so > > nice colors with gimp that is the default setting in f-spot. So I'm > > asking for two things. Will there be any function for converting from > > cr2 too jpg and or is there any way to get the same result with any > > command line tool or any other tool with not too much effort! > > Look into tools like ufraw (it has a batch commandline mode) and > dcraw (upon which ufraw is based) > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list -- Andreas Henden From gcgaf-f-spot-list@m.gmane.org Sat Jun 24 12:47:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982883B01DC for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:47:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26123-03 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9BA3B006E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FuBH9-0003mU-Px for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:27 +0200 Received: from p54b382b3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.179.130.179]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:27 +0200 Received: from cs_teawbdifws_001 by p54b382b3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:27 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Carsten Schurig Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:33 +0200 Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> <1151167012.6113.12.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54b382b3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060111) In-Reply-To: <1151167012.6113.12.camel@skrue.andeby> Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.216 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.094, BAYES_00=-2.599, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS=0.291, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.216 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:47:06 -0000 Andreas Henden schrieb: > the thing is that the default colors in f-spot is much nicer than with > ufraw. That's more an issue with the settings you choose in ufraw. I think f-spot just displays the embedded preview of the CR2 which was created by the cam. If you'd choose the same parameters in ufraw as the cam used, the results should be almost identical (but for the internal sharpening, which ufraw doesn't do). But I aggree it would be nice to have RAW->JPEG conversion better integrated into f-spot. I'd esp. like to have the resulting JPEG/PNG/whatever as a version of the RAW. Currently I add the resulting JPEG to f-spot and get an extra file this way... (But I'd still like to use an external tool as I think about purchasing bibble.) Just my 2¢, Carsten -- God's Final Message to His Creation: "We apologize for the inconvenience." (Douglas Adams: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish) From andreas.henden@vice-chairman.net Sat Jun 24 12:53:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDA23B01BE for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:53:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26384-06 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gordons.ginandtonic.no (gordons.ginandtonic.no [195.159.29.69]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB4F3B017E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host-81-191-129-68.bluecom.no ([81.191.129.68] helo=skrue.andeby) by gordons.ginandtonic.no with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1FuBNe-0002j2-0L for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:53:10 +0200 Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg From: Andreas Henden To: f-spot-list In-Reply-To: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:52:41 +0200 Message-Id: <1151167961.6113.14.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.433 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.031, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.433 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:53:49 -0000 hmm, why did I write saveing. It is of course saving.... On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 16:39 +0200, Andreas Henden wrote: > Hi > > I want sometimes to convert some of my cr2 files into jpg for sending by > mail or something like that. I have used gimp but I can't seem to get so > nice colors with gimp that is the default setting in f-spot. So I'm > asking for two things. Will there be any function for converting from > cr2 too jpg and or is there any way to get the same result with any > command line tool or any other tool with not too much effort! > > -- Andreas Henden From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Mon Jun 26 01:11:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10FA93B00A9 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:11:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22744-06 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:11:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9AA3B010B for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:11:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c29so856906nfb for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.223.13 with SMTP id v13mr4531484nfg; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C1E126.access.telenet.be ( [84.193.225.38]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l38sm2331799nfc.2006.06.25.22.10.59; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Good luck From: Thomas Van Machelen To: f-spot Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:10:59 +0200 Message-Id: <1151298659.5102.4.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.174 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.226, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.174 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 05:11:04 -0000 Hi Larry, Good luck this afternoon with the f-spot talk. I think we're all eager to hear about how well you did ;-) Best Regards, Thomas From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Mon Jun 26 09:29:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38EE3B0369 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20838-07 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F76C3B017B for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:29:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so826232uge for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.244.10 with SMTP id r10mr4973148ugh; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606260629g326d3cfem9ce1503749d57f38@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:29:13 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg In-Reply-To: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.765 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.635, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.765 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:29:16 -0000 On 6/24/06, Andreas Henden wrote: > the thing is that the default colors in f-spot is much nicer than with > ufraw. Which means that you need to setup UFRaw properly :) Consider this: white balance presets, base curve, gamma and linearity, color matrix on/off, input ICC-profile. Alexandre From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Mon Jun 26 09:30:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33D13B035F for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20890-09 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A2A3B009A for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so826983uge for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.8 with SMTP id d8mr4976101ugm; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606260630g69b5775fhfb6b3054cc383e33@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:30:43 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> <1151167012.6113.12.camel@skrue.andeby> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.828 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.572, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.828 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:30:46 -0000 On 6/24/06, Carsten Schurig wrote: > Currently I add the resulting JPEG to f-spot and get an extra file > this way... (But I'd still like to > use an external tool as I think about purchasing bibble.) Which means that we need a possibility to make a file a version of another one. Alexandre From andreas.henden@vice-chairman.net Mon Jun 26 13:22:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345F23B0330 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:22:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03046-01 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:22:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gordons.ginandtonic.no (gordons.ginandtonic.no [195.159.29.69]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE853B036C for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:22:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host-81-191-129-68.bluecom.no ([81.191.129.68] helo=skrue.andeby) by gordons.ginandtonic.no with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1FuunL-0004o4-3l; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:22:43 +0200 Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg From: Andreas Henden To: Alexandre Prokoudine In-Reply-To: <733f2c730606260629g326d3cfem9ce1503749d57f38@mail.gmail.com> References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <733f2c730606260629g326d3cfem9ce1503749d57f38@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:22:12 +0200 Message-Id: <1151342532.6611.3.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.441 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.023, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.441 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:22:59 -0000 On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 17:29 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On 6/24/06, Andreas Henden wrote: > > the thing is that the default colors in f-spot is much nicer than with > > ufraw. > > Which means that you need to setup UFRaw properly :) > > Consider this: white balance presets, base curve, gamma and linearity, > color matrix on/off, input ICC-profile. Things got much better after I got the right input profile. The hard part is setting up UFRaw porperly. Does f-spot calculate any values or does it use pre defined values? > > Alexandre > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > -- Andreas Henden From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Mon Jun 26 14:10:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80ACE3B036C for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:10:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06066-03 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:10:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2DC3B0161 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:10:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so960928uge for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.89.5 with SMTP id r5mr5228121ugl; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606261110s2ddc8f01qffeeb29bdc2feafe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:10:08 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg In-Reply-To: <1151342532.6611.3.camel@skrue.andeby> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <733f2c730606260629g326d3cfem9ce1503749d57f38@mail.gmail.com> <1151342532.6611.3.camel@skrue.andeby> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.881 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.519, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.881 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:10:11 -0000 On 6/26/06, Andreas Henden wrote: > Things got much better after I got the right input profile. The hard > part is setting up UFRaw porperly. Does f-spot calculate any values or > does it use pre defined values? It loads JPEG preview from Makernote area (if I'm not mistaken), so no calculation whatsoever for now :) Larry said before, that RAW processing has very high priority in his todo list, one of highest. Alexandre From nmarais@snowisp.com Mon Jun 26 16:11:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA24E3B00AB for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12499-06 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:11:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ctb-mesg8.saix.net (ctb-mesg8.saix.net [196.25.240.78]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE0A3B01DC for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from office.snowballeffect.net (dsl-146-194-202.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.194.202]) by ctb-mesg8.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303373184 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:11:00 +0200 (SAST) Received: (qmail 4114 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2006 00:50:09 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.20.130.19?) (10.20.130.19) by 192.168.20.58 with (RC4-MD5 encrypted) SMTP; 27 Jun 2006 00:50:09 +0200 Subject: Re: Big Collections/Complex Meta-data/Is F-Spot (going to be) for me? From: Neilen Marais To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1150804124.5909.60.camel@localhost> References: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1150804124.5909.60.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:10:51 +0200 Message-Id: <1151352651.18919.121.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:11:12 -0000 Hi Stephane On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 13:48 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > You can CC your email address to follow the discussion about them. Will do, thanks. > I like the idea of displaying more info about the selection (items per > tag, ...). You can probably submit a enhancement request in bugzilla and > attach a mockup of the UI. I'll see if I can come up with something... > As always in F-Spot, the problem is not > writing code to solve an issue, it's about writing good code and give > the user a nice experience. Yes, it shows. That's no doubt why F-Spot seems so nice to use :) Regards Neilen From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Tue Jun 27 07:43:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24823B00B3 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:43:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26554-06 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:42:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A3A3B00AB for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:42:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1304318uge for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.243.2 with SMTP id q2mr5970204ugh; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606270442j1be3d318mcea026affb62bb86@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:42:28 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <15179.194.237.142.21.1150786953.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <15179.194.237.142.21.1150786953.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.92 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.480, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.92 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:43:01 -0000 On 6/20/06, Bengt Thuree wrote: > To have the same material in many places will just cause a lot of > problems. On the other hand, having reviews of F-Spot, or links to F-Spot > in many places would be very nice. So, do we create new FAQ page and add it to the menu and grant Jordan rights to edit it? Alexandre From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 03:59:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0E93B028E for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 03:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02351-06 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 03:59:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE273B0249 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 03:59:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id q29so117057nfc for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.117.10 with SMTP id p10mr77693huc; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606300059p7c2d036bjd2cd530116e0c3c2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:59:43 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Crash report MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.272 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.103, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_GD=0.077, TW_GT=0.077, TW_TK=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.272 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:59:57 -0000 I was trying to export some photos and clicked on Add Album. I clicked on this after I had clicked Start, so that may or may not be relevant. This was the crash output: An unhandled exception was thrown: Object reference not set to an instance of an object An unhandled exception was thrown: Object reference not set to an instance of an object in <0x00015> FSpot.GalleryExport:HandleAddAlbum (System.Object sender, System.EventArgs args) in (wrapper delegate-invoke) System.MulticastDelegate:invoke_void_object_EventArgs (object,System.EventArgs) in <0x00093> GLib.Signal:voidObjectCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr gch) in (wrapper native-to-managed) GLib.Signal:voidObjectCallback (intptr,intptr) in <0x00000> in (wrapper managed-to-native) Gtk.Application:gtk_main () in <0x00007> Gtk.Application:Run () in <0x00007> Gnome.Program:Run () in <0x00542> FSpot.Driver:Main (System.String[] args) .NET Version: 1.1.4322.2032 Assembly Version Information: libgphoto2-sharp (1.0.2334.23664) System.Xml (1.0.5000.0) FlickrNet (1.1.0.0) System.Web (1.0.5000.0) gconf-sharp (2.8.0.0) pango-sharp (2.8.0.0) SemWeb (0.5.0.2) glade-sharp (2.8.0.0) gtkhtml-sharp (2.8.0.0) System.Data (1.0.5000.0) Mono.Data.SqliteClient (1.0.5000.0) gdk-sharp (2.8.0.0) Mono.Posix (1.0.5000.0) gnome-vfs-sharp (2.8.0.0) dbus-sharp (0.60.0.0) System (1.0.5000.0) atk-sharp (2.8.0.0) gtk-sharp (2.8.0.0) glib-sharp (2.8.0.0) gnome-sharp (2.8.0.0) f-spot (0.0.0.0) mscorlib (1.0.5000.0) Platform Information: Linux 2.6.15-25-386 i686 unknown GNU/Linux Disribution Information: [/etc/debian_version] testing/unstable [/etc/lsb-release] DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=6.06 DISTRIB_CODENAME=dapper DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 6.06 LTS" Dotan Cohen http:.//what-is-what.com From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 10:17:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694843B03A3 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:17:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24779-10 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:17:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33DCF3B03AD for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:17:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id t5so291232wxc for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.26.17 with SMTP id 17mr685481wxz; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.80.10 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:17:26 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: "Warren Baird" Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag In-Reply-To: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.201 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.122, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_XM=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.201 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:17:28 -0000 On 24/06/06, Warren Baird wrote: > There's no mechanism to do this automatically - however, there are some > patches for bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 that > will make this relatively easy --- the patch I submitted against the bug > will take simple xmp-like "sidecar" files at import and create tags for > them. > > Basically you need to write a script that creates for every file > foo.jpg, a file called foo.jpg.xmp - the contents should look like this: > > xmlns:rdf='http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#' > xmlns:iX='http://ns.adobe.com/iX/1.0/' > xmlns:dc='http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/'> > > > > Tag 1 > Tag 2 > ... > Tag N > > > > > > Then with my patch, when you do the import, the tags will be created (if > necessary), and attached to each photo appropriately. > > Hope this helps. > > Warren Great work, Warren. Could you please explain the XML in a bit more detail? Specifically, I'd need to add tags for Keywords, People, Caption/Title, Description/Comments, and Places. Just as an example, how would the XML appear for a photo with: Keywords "key1" and "key2" People "person1", "person2", "person3" Caption "This is the Caption" Description "A short description." Place "place1" If I can see that, then I'm pretty sure that I can figure out the rest. Also, how do I patch F-spot? I am not a developer, and I've no experience in the matter. Thank you. Dotan Cohen From stephane@delcroix.org Fri Jun 30 10:33:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7D23B013F for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:33:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25674-06 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:33:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 618113B021F for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:33:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20700 invoked by uid 503); 30 Jun 2006 14:34:38 -0000 Received: from b7.ovh.net (HELO mail156.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.57) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2006 14:34:38 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2006 14:32:36 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2006 14:32:34 -0000 Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag From: Stephane Delcroix To: F-Spot list In-Reply-To: <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:33:26 +0200 Message-Id: <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/0.0/5.0/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.881 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.506, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, TW_XM=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -1.881 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:33:21 -0000 Dotan, You can't specify a tag hierarchy. (i.e. you can't say "People: me", "Place: home", you can just attach tags "me" and "home") But keep in mind that, in f-spot, all tags are unique. So, tag your images, and re-organize your tags once imported in f-spot. (move the tag "me" under "People" and "home" under "Places") about patching and compiling f-spot, look at: http://f-spot.org/How_To_Build On Fri, 2006-06-30 at 17:17 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 24/06/06, Warren Baird wrote: > > There's no mechanism to do this automatically - however, there are some > > patches for bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 that > > will make this relatively easy --- the patch I submitted against the bug > > will take simple xmp-like "sidecar" files at import and create tags for > > them. > > > > Basically you need to write a script that creates for every file > > foo.jpg, a file called foo.jpg.xmp - the contents should look like this: > > > > > xmlns:rdf='http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#' > > xmlns:iX='http://ns.adobe.com/iX/1.0/' > > xmlns:dc='http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/'> > > > > > > > > Tag 1 > > Tag 2 > > ... > > Tag N > > > > > > > > > > > > Then with my patch, when you do the import, the tags will be created (if > > necessary), and attached to each photo appropriately. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Warren > > Great work, Warren. Could you please explain the XML in a bit more > detail? Specifically, I'd need to add tags for Keywords, People, > Caption/Title, Description/Comments, and Places. Just as an example, > how would the XML appear for a photo with: > Keywords "key1" and "key2" > People "person1", "person2", "person3" > Caption "This is the Caption" > Description "A short description." > Place "place1" > > If I can see that, then I'm pretty sure that I can figure out the > rest. Also, how do I patch F-spot? I am not a developer, and I've no > experience in the matter. Thank you. > > Dotan Cohen > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > -- Stephane Delcroix stephane@delcroix.org From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 10:47:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC213B0245 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:47:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26647-01 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.236]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F083B021F for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i7so300108wra for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.118.13 with SMTP id q13mr664769wrc; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.80.10 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606300747p1a39c168ja4517be7a5190725@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:47:44 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: "Stephane Delcroix" Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag In-Reply-To: <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.383 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.017, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.383 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:47:46 -0000 On 30/06/06, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Dotan, > > You can't specify a tag hierarchy. (i.e. you can't say "People: me", > "Place: home", you can just attach tags "me" and "home") > But keep in mind that, in f-spot, all tags are unique. > So, tag your images, and re-organize your tags once imported in f-spot. > (move the tag "me" under "People" and "home" under "Places") > > about patching and compiling f-spot, look at: > http://f-spot.org/How_To_Build Thank you, Stephane. So, the tags I descibed would give: key1 key2 person1 person2 person3 This is the Caption A short description. place1 Or would there be a better way of going about it? Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 15:17:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942083B03B1 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:17:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08071-01 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:16:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D183B03AD for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:16:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i26so270827wxd for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.26.16 with SMTP id 16mr1133141wxz; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.80.10 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606301216i386302a5m16b35746c0e4ac52@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 22:16:56 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: "Stephane Delcroix" Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag In-Reply-To: <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.154 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_GD=0.077, TW_GT=0.077, TW_TK=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.154 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:17:00 -0000 On 30/06/06, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > about patching and compiling f-spot, look at: > http://f-spot.org/How_To_Build I get to the point of "./f-spot --uninstalled", and then Fspot opens and I get this: An unhandled exception was thrown: /home/dotancohen/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/libfspot.so.0 in (wrapper managed-to-native) FSpot.ImageView:f_image_view_new () in <0x00032> FSpot.ImageView:.ctor () in <0x0001c> FSpot.PhotoImageView:.ctor (IBrowsableCollection query) in <0x00231> FSpot.PhotoView:.ctor (IBrowsableCollection query) in <0x0132e> MainWindow:.ctor (.Db db) in <0x0002a> FSpot.Core:get_MainWindow () in <0x0000c> FSpot.Core:Organize () in <0x00628> FSpot.Driver:Main (System.String[] args) .NET Version: 1.1.4322.2032 Assembly Version Information: FlickrNet (1.1.0.0) gconf-sharp (2.8.0.0) pango-sharp (2.8.0.0) SemWeb (0.5.0.2) glade-sharp (2.8.0.0) gtkhtml-sharp (2.8.0.0) System.Data (1.0.5000.0) Mono.Data.SqliteClient (1.0.5000.0) gdk-sharp (2.8.0.0) gnome-vfs-sharp (2.8.0.0) dbus-sharp (0.60.0.0) System (1.0.5000.0) Mono.Posix (1.0.5000.0) atk-sharp (2.8.0.0) gtk-sharp (2.8.0.0) glib-sharp (2.8.0.0) gnome-sharp (2.8.0.0) f-spot (0.0.0.0) mscorlib (1.0.5000.0) Platform Information: Linux 2.6.15-25-386 i686 unknown GNU/Linux Disribution Information: [/etc/debian_version] testing/unstable [/etc/lsb-release] DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=6.06 DISTRIB_CODENAME=dapper DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 6.06 LTS" Is it safe to continue? What must I do? Dotan Cohen http://ie-only.com From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 16:00:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2BE3B01BF for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:00:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10252-09 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:00:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.200]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462533B007B for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:00:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i26so275864wxd for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.20.18 with SMTP id 18mr1198588wxt; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.80.10 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606301300u5c5691b0w7bc65085b7e0a6fb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:00:27 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag In-Reply-To: <1151696141.6043.2.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301216i386302a5m16b35746c0e4ac52@mail.gmail.com> <1151696141.6043.2.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.282 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.118, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.282 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:00:30 -0000 On 30/06/06, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Personally, I never use f-spot --uninstalled... > > I always do a make install after make. but if you're already unsing > f-spot, take care of making a backup(of the photos.db) before running > the modified version. > > how to compile: > get f-spot cvs > cd f-spot > patch -p0 < thepatch.diff > ./autogen.sh > make > su > make install > exit > > Stephane > I already autogen'ed. Should I save the path at: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=66515&action=view in a file called thepatch.diff, then run "patch -p0 < thepatch.diff" and then ./autogen.sh again? Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://essentialinux.com From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 16:05:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49DA3B00F1 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:05:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10704-07 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:05:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD4B3B03AD for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:05:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i26so276436wxd for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.61.19 with SMTP id j19mr1209211wxa; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.80.10 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606301305t336161fx5efaf1ef836ed5cb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:05:32 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: "Stephane Delcroix" , "F-Spot list" Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag In-Reply-To: <1151696141.6043.2.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301216i386302a5m16b35746c0e4ac52@mail.gmail.com> <1151696141.6043.2.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.302 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.098, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.302 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:05:34 -0000 Well, I took the initiative and tried to apply the patch as I described before. This is what I got: dotancohen@ubuntu:~/development/f-spot/f-spot$ patch -p0 < thepatch.diff patching file ChangeLog Hunk #1 FAILED at 1. 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file ChangeLog.rej patching file src/FileImportBackend.cs Hunk #1 FAILED at 3. Hunk #2 succeeded at 14 (offset 1 line). Hunk #3 succeeded at 100 (offset 3 lines). Hunk #4 succeeded at 185 with fuzz 1 (offset 7 lines). Hunk #5 FAILED at 195. Hunk #6 succeeded at 269 (offset 23 lines). Hunk #7 succeeded at 285 (offset 23 lines). 2 out of 7 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file src/FileImportBackend.cs.rej patching file src/ImportCommand.cs Hunk #8 FAILED at 737. Hunk #9 succeeded at 764 (offset 5 lines). 1 out of 9 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file src/ImportCommand.cs.rej patching file src/Makefile.am patching file src/XmpTagsImporter.cs patching file src/XmpTagsMetadata.cs dotancohen@ubuntu:~/development/f-spot/f-spot$ cat ChangeLog.rej *************** *** 1,3 **** 2006-05-04 Arangel Angov * configure.in: Added 'mk.po' to ALL_LINGUAS --- 1,16 ---- + 2006-05-25 Bengt Thuree + + * src/XmpTagsMetadata.cs: Reads the XMP tags from a photo during import + + * src/XmpTagsImporter.cs: Creates XMP tags during import + + * src/FileImportBackend.cs: Calls XmpTagsImporter during import. + + * src/Makefile.am: Added XmpTagsMetadata.cs and XmpTagsImporter.cs + + * src/ImportCommand.cs: disable DisplayTags since otherwise we get a crash. + Cancel do not seem to remove all... + 2006-05-04 Arangel Angov * configure.in: Added 'mk.po' to ALL_LINGUAS dotancohen@ubuntu:~/development/f-spot/f-spot$ cat src/ImportCommand.cs.rej *************** *** 735,741 **** if (collection == null) return false; - DoImport (new FileImportBackend (store, pathimport, copy, recurse, null)); return false; } --- 737,743 ---- if (collection == null) return false; + DoImport (new FileImportBackend (this.Dialog, store, pathimport, copy, recurse, null)); return false; } dotancohen@ubuntu:~/development/f-spot/f-spot$ From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 30 17:36:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0314F3B03CD for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16392-05 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:36:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC643B036E for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:36:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5ULaQrw005604; Sat, 1 Jul 2006 07:36:26 +1000 Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606301305t336161fx5efaf1ef836ed5cb@mail.gmail.com> References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301216i386302a5m16b35746c0e4ac52@mail.gmail.com> <1151696141.6043.2.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301305t336161fx5efaf1ef836ed5cb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 07:36:24 +1000 Message-Id: <1151703385.5595.9.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.536 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.064, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.536 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:36:40 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-30 at 23:05 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Well, I took the initiative and tried to apply the patch as I > described before. This is what I got: > dotancohen@ubuntu:~/development/f-spot/f-spot$ patch -p0 < thepatch.diff > patching file ChangeLog > Hunk #1 FAILED at 1. > * configure.in: Added 'mk.po' to ALL_LINGUAS > --- 1,16 ---- > + 2006-05-25 Bengt Thuree > + > + * src/XmpTagsMetadata.cs: Reads the XMP tags from a photo during import Hi Dotan, Will Warrens patch apply directly? The one you took, was the latest patch which I had modified, and I am pretty certain Warrens suggestion should still work with this patch, but not 100% sure. The patch errors you get from my patch (and possible also something similar from Warrens patch) will have to be manually fixed by you. Key file to fix is ImportCommand.cs and FileImportBackend.cs You can simply open the CS file in an editor, and open the Patch.diff file in another editor, and manually go through every "patch" for the CS file. You will find most have been applied, but some are missing (reason is that the code have changed a bit in the general area where the patch should be applied so it can not be automatically applied). Stephane did mention it was simple to fix, so I have not done it. If you still have problems, let me know and I will try to update my patch. Warrens patch, if you want to try his is located here. (the first attachement to that bug) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=65865&action=view Regarding your Run time error, have you run F-Spot before? Do you have any existing photos? Have you tagged photos already with F-Spot? If not, try to delete the ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db and run it again. /Bengt From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 17:59:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4A43B01AB for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:59:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17934-03 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:59:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.239]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189533B00CA for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:59:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i7so351686wra for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.127.1 with SMTP id z1mr1089901wrc; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.26.6.5? ( [216.95.183.94]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 7sm1309896wrl.2006.06.30.14.59.23; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44A59EBA.5030105@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:59:22 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bengt Thuree Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301216i386302a5m16b35746c0e4ac52@mail.gmail.com> <1151696141.6043.2.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301305t336161fx5efaf1ef836ed5cb@mail.gmail.com> <1151703385.5595.9.camel@workie.thuree.com> In-Reply-To: <1151703385.5595.9.camel@workie.thuree.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.436 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.036, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.436 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:59:26 -0000 Bengt Thuree wrote:> > The patch errors you get from my patch (and possible also something > similar from Warrens patch) will have to be manually fixed by you. It's vaguely cruel and unusual to ask a non-dev type to fix these kinda things! Dotan - I assume you are working with current CVS head. I'll grab Bengt's patch now, and see if I can get a version of it that applies cleanly against current CVS. Hopefully I can post it in a few hours... Warren From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 18:08:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843B53B04C7 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:08:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18215-10 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:08:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.233]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF8843B048D for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:08:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i7so352488wra for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.83.8 with SMTP id g8mr1039146wrb; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.26.6.5? ( [216.95.183.94]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g7sm1719532wra.2006.06.30.15.08.26; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44A5A0D9.209@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:08:25 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dotan Cohen Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> <880dece00606300747p1a39c168ja4517be7a5190725@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <880dece00606300747p1a39c168ja4517be7a5190725@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.44 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.040, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.44 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 22:08:34 -0000 Dotan Cohen wrote: > Thank you, Stephane. So, the tags I descibed would give: >[...] > This is the Caption > A short description. >[...] Well - almost. Unfortunately, caption/descriptions aren't handled like tags. I've gotta leave work now - but I'll try to give a better description of how to specify those kinds of details later... Warren From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 18:18:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538703B04B5 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18807-04 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.204]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902073B04CC for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:18:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id t5so360191wxc for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.117.20 with SMTP id p20mr1390487wxc; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.80.10 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606301518l7995415drf470a9a4c82e9955@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 01:18:50 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: "F-Spot list" Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag In-Reply-To: <1151703385.5595.9.camel@workie.thuree.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301216i386302a5m16b35746c0e4ac52@mail.gmail.com> <1151696141.6043.2.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301305t336161fx5efaf1ef836ed5cb@mail.gmail.com> <1151703385.5595.9.camel@workie.thuree.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.685 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.558, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, INFO_TLD=1.273, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.685 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 22:18:58 -0000 On 01/07/06, Bengt Thuree wrote: > Hi Dotan, > > Will Warrens patch apply directly? > The one you took, was the latest patch which I had modified, and I am > pretty certain Warrens suggestion should still work with this patch, but > not 100% sure. I rm'ed the two directories and started over with Warren's patch, that one also would not patch the current cvs. And I was unsuccessful about patching by hand. > The patch errors you get from my patch (and possible also something > similar from Warrens patch) will have to be manually fixed by you. > Key file to fix is ImportCommand.cs and FileImportBackend.cs > You can simply open the CS file in an editor, and open the Patch.diff > file in another editor, and manually go through every "patch" for the CS > file. You will find most have been applied, but some are missing (reason > is that the code have changed a bit in the general area where the patch > should be applied so it can not be automatically applied). Stephane did > mention it was simple to fix, so I have not done it. If you still have > problems, let me know and I will try to update my patch. > > Warrens patch, if you want to try his is located here. (the first > attachement to that bug) > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=65865&action=view > > Regarding your Run time error, have you run F-Spot before? Do you have > any existing photos? Have you tagged photos already with F-Spot? > If not, try to delete the ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db and run it again. The last time that I had run fspot I got a similar meassage. I posted it here to the list, as the error specifically requested me to do so, yesterday or today. Dotan Cohen http://auto-car.info From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 19:58:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310FE3B04EE for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:58:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22938-03 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:58:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.206]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52793B0297 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:58:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id o1so517713nzf for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.205.7 with SMTP id h7mr1647815qbq; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q13sm1388110qbq.2006.06.30.16.58.37; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44A5BAB1.90209@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:58:41 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dotan Cohen Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301216i386302a5m16b35746c0e4ac52@mail.gmail.com> <1151696141.6043.2.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301305t336161fx5efaf1ef836ed5cb@mail.gmail.com> <1151703385.5595.9.camel@workie.thuree.com> <44A59EBA.5030105@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> In-Reply-To: <44A59EBA.5030105@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.451 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.128, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_XM=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.451 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:58:40 -0000 Warren Baird wrote: > Dotan - I assume you are working with current CVS head. I'll grab > Bengt's patch now, and see if I can get a version of it that applies > cleanly against current CVS. I took a closer look, and my original patch applies fine --- I think Bengt is right, it's probably easier to just work with my patch... I also figured out how to import a comment. My patch takes the photoshop "Headline" tag and puts it in the comment field. to do this, you should add the photoshop namespace by adding the string xmlns:photoshop="http://ns.adobe.com/photoshop/1.0/" to your xmpmeta line, and then adding This is my commment inside your field. Here's a fully populated chunk as an example: This is where the Saskatchwan River forks in the north and south Saskatchwan rivers. The Forks sask 2005 Travel Great Hope this helps! Warren From douglasjanderson@gmail.com Wed Jun 28 00:20:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25DE3B0011 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:20:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26924-01 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:20:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE60A3B0005 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:20:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c29so1172503nfb for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.19.7 with SMTP id w7mr243516nfi; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.157.18 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4511e6e80606272119t4a9b151apc3c9522faa227b35@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:19:31 -0400 From: "Douglas Anderson" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: http://f-spot.org/To_Do MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_622_14034199.1151468371058" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.414 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_40_50=0.496, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.414 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 21:17:42 -0400 X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 04:20:36 -0000 ------=_Part_622_14034199.1151468371058 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On http://f-spot.org/To_Do > The current EXIF display is too EXIF specific and extremely dull, The > layout needs to be redone and the the Items should be ordered by relative > importance. First sentence should be cleaned up a little bit. Not sure if "Items" was capetalized on purpose? The current EXIF display is too EXIF specific and extremely dull, the layout > needs to be redone and the items should be ordered by relative importance. ------=_Part_622_14034199.1151468371058 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On http://f-spot.org/To_Do
The current EXIF display is too EXIF specific and extremely dull, The layout needs to be redone and the the Items should be ordered by relative importance.

First sentence should be cleaned up a little bit. Not sure if "Items" was capetalized on purpose?

The current EXIF display is too EXIF specific and extremely dull, the layout needs to be redone and the items should be ordered by relative importance.

------=_Part_622_14034199.1151468371058-- From bengt@thuree.com Wed May 31 23:27:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137FE3B00C5 for ; Wed, 31 May 2006 23:27:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02395-05 for ; Wed, 31 May 2006 23:27:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (1-1-3-2a.ehn.lk.bostream.se [82.183.137.113]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91FB23B00DC for ; Wed, 31 May 2006 23:27:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by denton.thuree.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86C93AA97 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 05:27:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 194.237.142.21 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bengt) by denton.thuree.com with HTTP; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 12:27:23 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <35496.194.237.142.21.1149132443.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 12:27:23 +0900 (JST) From: "Bengt Thuree" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-thuree-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-thuree-MailScanner-From: bengt@thuree.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: Subject: One line patch for 333857 X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 03:27:45 -0000 FYI Just attached a small one liner patch to 333857 /Bengt http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333857 A one liner patch that disabled the Version drop down menu if there is no modifed versions. --- ../../f-spot/src/InfoBox.cs 2006-03-23 00:57:27.000000000 +0800 +++ src/InfoBox.cs 2006-06-01 11:22:46.000000000 +0800 @@ -272,7 +272,7 @@ public class InfoBox : VBox { photo.Time.ToShortDateString (), photo.Time.ToShortTimeString ()); #endif - version_option_menu.Sensitive = true; + version_option_menu.Sensitive = (photo.VersionIds.Length > 1); // Enable only if there are modified versions. PhotoVersionMenu menu = new PhotoVersionMenu (photo); menu.VersionIdChanged += new PhotoVersionMenu.VersionIdChangedHandler (HandleVersionIdChanged); menu.WidthRequest = version_option_menu.Allocation.Width; -- Bengt Thuree bengt@thuree.com From drberg1000@gmail.com Thu Jun 1 16:52:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958A93B0F4A for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:52:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06048-01 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:52:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hu-out-0102.google.com (hu-out-0102.google.com [72.14.214.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3787B3B0ED4 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:52:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by hu-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 34so247599hud for ; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=NEGjo8B1W4NOeZWtu5DW/YakZNml0x/lbol/wmYlvQRwF8F/Pnn7fOGI1ReFkcUpUx/N7cv6Gzz1em5R8EZDrVmlxaAxMKgjCqNHKLTQCUOKO6YFgYWoMcwjqhLliGkH/D6IBiA3/woQRJsvNrBZoEAJdXFx3ARxQyXhMVSp014= Received: by 10.35.76.9 with SMTP id d9mr1612366pyl; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.86.11 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:52:45 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Rotation descriptions X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 20:52:48 -0000 I'm wondering why "Rotate Left" and "Rotate Right" were chosen to describe the commands instead of "Rotate Clockwise" and "Rotate Counterclockwise". The best I can guess is length of the words. If thats the case, here's a little antecdotal feed back on usability. It wasn't until I was half through writing this e-mail that I noticed the small little icons noted which direction the image would be rotated. I am having a difficult time remembering if it is the top of the photo or the bottom of the photo that moves. Personally, I think it would be clearer if a larger arrow and/or Clockwise/Counterclockwise were used. Just my $0.02 --Dave From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Thu Jun 1 18:53:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64483B0061 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:53:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11537-10 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:53:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E693B0072 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:53:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so283419uge for ; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=h05J7wusko7OClEUYg5fXPI0GaXbUNidt/pmzwguU8WHvw+Dm2D0/dTlJXp1XeHpqS8v0I1HiLEafebe2XUTZDctNPvMdpNR8UCHizTUIZd0GNeu8nLqLPegyiUjyRf4on8+C8n/DfyFj92omS7JeF3wwlzRwdpnQVBC9Agax6E= Received: by 10.67.105.19 with SMTP id h19mr207408ugm; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606011553t6fe9beccpa31aea24fab46df9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 02:53:32 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.056 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.056 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Rotation descriptions X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 22:53:37 -0000 On 6/2/06, David Berg wrote: > I'm wondering why "Rotate Left" and "Rotate Right" were chosen to > describe the commands instead of "Rotate Clockwise" and "Rotate > Counterclockwise". The best I can guess is length of the words. If > thats the case, here's a little antecdotal feed back on usability. > > It wasn't until I was half through writing this e-mail that I noticed > the small little icons noted which direction the image would be > rotated. I am having a difficult time remembering if it is the top of > the photo or the bottom of the photo that moves. Personally, I think > it would be clearer if a larger arrow and/or > Clockwise/Counterclockwise were used. Indeed. They are usually cut to Rotate CW and Rotate CCW. And we can still provide hints for menu items to explain what CW/CCW mean for those who doesn't know. Alexandre From stephane@delcroix.org Fri Jun 2 10:07:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24413B1144 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:07:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30984-09 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:07:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 26.mail-out.ovh.net (26.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.42.179]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEAA43B10B6 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:06:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12848 invoked by uid 503); 2 Jun 2006 14:06:59 -0000 Received: (QMFILT: 1.0); 02 Jun 2006 14:06:59 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail44.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 26.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2006 14:06:59 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2006 14:06:50 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2006 14:06:48 -0000 From: Stephane Delcroix To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:08:21 +0200 Message-Id: <1149257301.7904.10.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.951 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.513, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -1.951 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Bug 318376 =?utf-8?b?4oCT?= JPEG saving ignores original quality X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:07:09 -0000 Do not choose default for the user anymore... just try to guess the original compression factor ! I've submitted a patch, based on jpegdump, adding that ability to f-spot. the bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318376 the comment: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318376#c9 the patch: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=66658&action=view Regards, Stephane From drberg1000@gmail.com Fri Jun 2 16:07:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3953B02BE for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:07:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21051-09 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9213B0491 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id x31so1203953pye for ; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:07:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Dd1NExlSLCwENNgvGHiBKyq4GBjy1u9EDTVzZGfr8dRyg0Tfy+CDWxtNTc0+Rce2OCGeqeBhzjtgGYCuSi8LGN9IHypVYY0vEVKspoOxfbn3vIdUixBNiuS36NZcu+jSwtWDdi5ECcmKxlPqQaE/kndLzA2yCnU/IOuS99mGeMs= Received: by 10.35.49.4 with SMTP id b4mr2824500pyk; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.86.11 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 13:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 15:07:51 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.543 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.432, BAYES_05=-1.11, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.543 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 20:07:57 -0000 Is there a way to find photos containing "Tag X" AND "Tag Y" instead of the default OR search? It would be really nice to be able to write more complex queries. --Dave From fred@uh.cu Fri Jun 2 17:06:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0933B006F for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:06:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24674-04 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:06:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from proxy2.uh.cu (proxy2.uh.cu [200.55.139.213]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5123B042A for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:06:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy2.uh.cu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4D12FCEB for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:03:26 -0400 (AST) Received: from comuh.uh.cu (comuh.uh.cu [10.6.100.69]) by proxy2.uh.cu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C192FCE5 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:03:26 -0400 (AST) Received: from comuh (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by comuh.uh.cu (Postfix) with SMTP id 50CBB1680DE for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:58:37 -0400 (CDT) Received: from hogwarts.reduh.uh.cu (hogwarts.reduh.uh.cu [10.6.70.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EXP1024-RC4-SHA (56/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by comuh.uh.cu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337D91680D5 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:58:37 -0400 (CDT) From: Yoanis Gil Delgado Organization: Universidad de la Habana Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:05:48 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary-00=_wgKgEOjcTDYK+xh" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020300 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.923 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.676, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_10_20=1.351, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.923 X-Spam-Level: Subject: My first experiences with f-spot X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 21:06:50 -0000 --Boundary-00=_wgKgEOjcTDYK+xh Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi list!!! . My name is Yoanis Gil Delgado and I'm studying Computers Science at the University of Havana. I want to thanks all of you for this great software. I spent some time classifying my pictures and these are some stuffs i missed: 1-) Multiple picture selection. See 4) 2-) Undo actions. Note i mean "action" and not a "picture editing action". A very common mistake(for me) is to attach the wrong tag to a picture. I though Ctrl+Z would solve the problem, but it did not worked. 3-) Which tags are associated to a file. I know that in browse mode every image has an overlay set of related tags. But, let says the image "Rose, Joe and Mary.jpg" belongs to 3 categories (Joe,Rose and Mary). Each of these categories are child of the People's category (yes, those are people names). In this example the overlay shows the same icons for the 3 categories(People's tag icon). So there is no way to know the categories names the image belongs at the very first look. Still would like to see, when in browse mode, the categories name in some place. 4-) Tags shorcuts. Use case: Lets say i have 4 main tags 1-) Rose 2-) Joe 3-) Mary 4-) Me and a collection of 100 photos of them. Among those i can find photos from Rose and Joe, Mary and Rose, Joe and Me and so on. In the version i'm using(0.1.11), i needed to make a lot of clicks to classify them. It would be nice if there is a way to assign a shortcut to every tag, so when i can tag images by making clicks. P.D: Sorry for the big talk and i hope i can put some code soon. --Boundary-00=_wgKgEOjcTDYK+xh Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi list!!! . My name is Yoanis Gil Delgado and I'm studying Computers Science at the University of Havana. I want to thanks all of you for this great software.

I spent some time classifying my pictures and these are some stuffs i missed:

1-) Multiple picture selection. See 4)

2-) Undo actions. Note i mean "action" and not a "picture editing action". A very common mistake(for me) is to attach the wrong tag to a picture. I though Ctrl+Z would solve the problem, but it did not worked.

3-) Which tags are associated to a file. I know that in browse mode every image has an overlay set of related tags. But, let says the image "Rose, Joe and Mary.jpg" belongs to 3 categories (Joe,Rose and Mary). Each of these categories are child of the People's category (yes, those are people names). In this example the overlay shows the same icons for the 3 categories(People's tag icon). So there is no way to know the categories names the image belongs at the very first look. Still would like to see, when in browse mode, the categories name in some place.

4-) Tags shorcuts. Use case:

Lets say i have 4 main tags

1-) Rose

2-) Joe

3-) Mary

4-) Me

and a collection of 100 photos of them. Among those i can find photos from Rose and Joe, Mary and Rose, Joe and Me and so on. In the version i'm using(0.1.11), i needed to make a lot of clicks to classify them. It would be nice if there is a way to assign a shortcut to every tag, so when i can tag images by making clicks.

P.D: Sorry for the big talk and i hope i can put some code soon.

--Boundary-00=_wgKgEOjcTDYK+xh-- From m.j.hutchinson@gmail.com Fri Jun 2 19:40:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37803B11CC for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:40:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31640-09 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:40:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6263B047B for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:40:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l37so1214960nfc for ; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:40:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iiVu5uNrvJwp3bSGHpJY9ba46wGigTLj4d0CNKf3K9X9qjj7f45EEOk/NXQZkkmcWjP5YcNM016eCNZLvxOhR0kf7shx9vFtXvQBFNaIp6Y/AJDZYQsn6zX/X9lRXAjMGv4zM1lFWDLQ91EZiTPEHIQSPx9zA+FhdFWS+1VP4c4= Received: by 10.49.14.18 with SMTP id r18mr2342590nfi; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.40.5 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 00:40:48 +0100 From: "Michael Hutchinson" To: "Yoanis Gil Delgado" In-Reply-To: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.431 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.169, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.431 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: My first experiences with f-spot X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 23:40:50 -0000 On 6/2/06, Yoanis Gil Delgado wrote: > > 1-) Multiple picture selection. See 4) Use Ctrl+Click to add to the selection, or Shift+Click to select a range. I don't know is this is present in the version you're using, but it's in SVN. > using(0.1.11), i needed to make a lot of clicks to classify them. It would > be nice if there is a way to assign a shortcut to every tag, so when i can > tag images by making clicks. There are two shortcuts here. Hitting 't' will allow you to edit the tags on the selected photo by typing, and this has tab completion and will create new tags if they don't already exist. The other way is to use the right-clcik context menu. This is very useful, as it can be applied to a multiple selection. Michael From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 06:10:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0AF3B0605 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:10:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27673-08 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:10:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C063B0433 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:10:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l37so1263551nfc for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:10:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=QWg9R1s3upux3E3ZVxS8WnCj530RszgrW9kojhh/YwvEMOozpK7yB+76ECSsqqN3Sq+fUMnc7tlCpalOfmWoyMjWItSBMcv0VX7PkMp+G1R6b4+7EUf/rQRUUgwtfvrkhA7JhkOhuU+jONyXV9lAGw3BsSAUOni818nPjHnI20M= Received: by 10.49.61.17 with SMTP id o17mr2648993nfk; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C1EDBE.access.telenet.be ( [84.193.237.190]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g1sm3276320nfe.2006.06.03.03.10.24; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:10:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: David Berg In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:10:22 +0200 Message-Id: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.213 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.387, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.213 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 10:10:28 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 15:07 -0500, David Berg wrote: > Is there a way to find photos containing "Tag X" AND "Tag Y" instead > of the default OR search? It would be really nice to be able to write > more complex queries. > It is not in current CVS head, but there is a separate branch (F_SPOT_QUERY) that allows you to do more complex queries, among which the one you describe. Regards, Thomas From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 10:46:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14C83B03FF for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 10:46:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10344-02 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 10:46:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.238]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E0A3B0118 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 10:46:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so719730wri for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 07:46:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=kAmiNJHc+odyyiJiIsZi2t7K50yq9Rc5ISUrp6OiqU7WZyQ1LhpACnx5+rGi/Ev/KIW3q+knFN8yPnW5Nc29bQnWbjrIqfBbRiF7KPfbQmUqIrtu8gLlCR/TZUWzsPcTIi7kOw3nADqHVsZMp3wtA/ri4OwGCoBCzakzOTvSEO4= Received: by 10.64.142.19 with SMTP id p19mr2487044qbd; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 07:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e17sm774698qba.2006.06.03.07.46.09; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 07:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4481A0AF.6090401@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 10:46:07 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list References: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 14:46:11 -0000 Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > It is not in current CVS head, but there is a separate branch > (F_SPOT_QUERY) that allows you to do more complex queries, among which > the one you describe. Speaking of which - does anyone know what the current status is on getting that merged back into head? I really like the complex queries, but as I'm still submitting patches periodically, it's easier to work from head. Anything I can do to accelerate the process? Warren From lewing@novell.com Sat Jun 3 12:17:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A793B0712 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:17:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14666-09 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922623B073B for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13734 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2006 16:17:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Jun 2006 16:17:31 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Warren Baird In-Reply-To: <4481A0AF.6090401@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> References: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> <4481A0AF.6090401@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 11:25:23 -0500 Message-Id: <1149351924.3587.68.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.462 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.063, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.462 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list Subject: Re: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 16:17:33 -0000 I hoping to start merging things into head starting sometime this coming week after I get a chance to look over everything that has stacked up. Hopefully the query branch will follow soon after that. Thanks to everyone who has been reviewing and submitting patches, it has been great to see so much activity. --Larry On Sat, 2006-06-03 at 10:46 -0400, Warren Baird wrote: > Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > It is not in current CVS head, but there is a separate branch > > (F_SPOT_QUERY) that allows you to do more complex queries, among which > > the one you describe. > > Speaking of which - does anyone know what the current status is on > getting that merged back into head? I really like the complex queries, > but as I'm still submitting patches periodically, it's easier to work > from head. > > Anything I can do to accelerate the process? > > Warren > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list From sebwrede@googlemail.com Sat Jun 3 06:56:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F683B04A9 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:56:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29573-07 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:56:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD283B0614 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l37so1267637nfc for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:56:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=googlemail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=qkX8H0Sn8uyrgknDvJ4t+5BdAHoAaMxiaMgSHcX92vQBj23tpxzDTa63SDFN9gSnyyfil5p774LWHD47kvBBQvmE+WJerUegmaptcBFcbPm08mwJOg8npnuHgXeJPjVkcvHNeNY7hSfuiT7JZKO4HvY+Z/NUfxVfi2x2FBuaObA= Received: by 10.48.221.15 with SMTP id t15mr641087nfg; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ( [84.61.8.82]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1sm3283429nfe.2006.06.03.03.56.11; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:56:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Sebastian Wrede To: Thomas Van Machelen In-Reply-To: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> References: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:56:09 +0200 Message-Id: <1149332169.9401.14.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:30:23 -0400 Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 10:56:15 -0000 Dear Thomas, dear F-Spot-Developers, First of all, I'd like to congratulate all of you to the great software you developed so far! F-Spot is really cool and very competitive compared to other tools in that area. As David and Thomas brought the topic up, I would like to ask a question that puzzles me frequently... Why does the F-Spot query patch not get integrated into the main branch? IMHO it provides already a really useful improvement over the existing query features. Do you have separate plans for an enhancement of the query functionality or are there other issues with it? Best regards, Sebastian Am Samstag, den 03.06.2006, 12:10 +0200 schrieb Thomas Van Machelen: > It is not in current CVS head, but there is a separate branch > (F_SPOT_QUERY) that allows you to do more complex queries, among which > the one you describe. > > Regards, > Thomas > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From lewing@novell.com Sat Jun 3 12:37:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199283B05AE for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:37:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15977-01 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE4A3B02FE for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:37:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13743 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2006 16:37:04 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Jun 2006 16:37:04 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Stephane Delcroix In-Reply-To: <1149257301.7904.10.camel@localhost> References: <1149257301.7904.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 11:45:07 -0500 Message-Id: <1149353107.3587.74.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.462 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.063, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.462 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Bug 318376 =?windows-1251?q?=96?= JPEG saving ignores original quality X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 16:37:07 -0000 I've only scanned the patch so far, but it makes me wonder how much of the jpegdump code is actually used for the quality guessing. F-Spot already includes code to handle marker parsing and it might make sense to just extract the portion that scans coefficients and integrate it with the other code. --Larry On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 16:08 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Do not choose default for the user anymore... just try to guess the > original compression factor ! > > I've submitted a patch, based on jpegdump, adding that ability to > f-spot. > > the bug: > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318376 > > the comment: > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318376#c9 > > the patch: > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=66658&action=view > > > Regards, > > Stephane > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list From gabriel.burt@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 20:51:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5B03B0383 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:51:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06189-06 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53A93B0317 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i3so763046wra for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:51:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bwnnhpe3zxbYkwmnuaLdPtnuBU7E+tqbOn8u4aSS9ikcTy1fIg+gu1eH7IvIxj7WXHT3eLK6zu0/LxJg6u3NVHSktwOeoz4AAnPFO63hdep/HQLF4cX7CyRndTFqqNJzY3kUOb2/Y2NiTLrpaNch6ctE/VMPzKjfiZtxo2JIFbs= Received: by 10.54.140.8 with SMTP id n8mr936028wrd; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.105.3 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 17:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <24348e0606031751j481b5d84xb82ca4926b5bf9f5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 19:51:10 -0500 From: "Gabriel Burt" To: "Tys von Gaza" In-Reply-To: <7749526e0605021653p37309326vacde825683cf432@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <7749526e0605021653p37309326vacde825683cf432@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.338 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.262, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.338 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem make installing X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 00:51:13 -0000 On 5/2/06, Tys von Gaza wrote: > I've got f-spot compling on ubuntu dapper but am running into the > following problem when running make install, any suggestions? > > Making install in po > make[1]: Entering directory `/home/tys/src/fspotcvs/f-spot/po' > make[1]: install_sh@: Command not found > make[1]: *** [install-data-yes] Error 127 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tys/src/fspotcvs/f-spot/po' > make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 Try doing sudo apt-get install build-essential Gabriel From gabriel.burt@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 20:52:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DF63B0383 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:52:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06566-03 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:52:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E7B3B00DF for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i3so763172wra for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:52:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ugI1/Z7LNnoQMDtF2kdSmXmMVm56AhNLgrA4LB0xrsEnFRfpv4ewoCJlfMqN2Nclg73MU3k8Cf7jx4ZZ9VEErdu4muS14jO5GPn6/sKu319m3lWobB5tvdt7bPBtTcyrCW9GSih+ZOqPw0Sveba/zPh2vGVZhMMJWik0rnE+8IE= Received: by 10.54.93.11 with SMTP id q11mr3486370wrb; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.105.3 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 17:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <24348e0606031752x550d2501g79bb93087d6726d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 19:52:41 -0500 From: "Gabriel Burt" To: "Frank Henderson" In-Reply-To: <4457837B.90604@twcny.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4457837B.90604@twcny.rr.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.351 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.249, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.351 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Uploading photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 00:52:43 -0000 On 5/2/06, Frank Henderson wrote: > Anybody got a suggestion as to why photos I send via email to individual > recipients don't arrive? Perhaps it's a problem with your mail client? Have you tried sending them to an address you can check to make sure it's not their client or misunderstanding? Gabriel From gabriel.burt@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 21:03:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724F83B0108 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 21:03:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06740-08 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 21:03:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.233]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65423B00DF for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 21:03:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i3so763886wra for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:03:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Eo9Ve9yzd40CCVkDG4O8wQzGTrLfLKFdm5rZI6NYOVXBck0rP0NBdB/66gqCwngfBCgX1/XmlCBcbBcomq5Gzy+hUWIngpPM7mW7r6SitB8eNKM4cXCFhOeoFrQ7vFqL6fnCYQ/KcHEq604MkA6lldOQh5oXuVFKTeMv4FH/Y1w= Received: by 10.54.80.16 with SMTP id d16mr3050549wrb; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.105.3 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 18:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <24348e0606031803h6493b93cof1a74f182c4b3fb8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:03:34 -0500 From: "Gabriel Burt" To: "Yoanis Gil Delgado" In-Reply-To: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.363 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.237, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.363 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: My first experiences with f-spot X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 01:03:39 -0000 On 6/2/06, Yoanis Gil Delgado wrote: > 2-) Undo actions. Note i mean "action" and not a "picture editing action". A > very common mistake(for me) is to attach the wrong tag to a picture. I > though Ctrl+Z would solve the problem, but it did not worked. Please file an enhancement bug report for this. > 3-) Which tags are associated to a file. I know that in browse mode every > image has an overlay set of related tags. But, let says the image "Rose, Joe > and Mary.jpg" belongs to 3 categories (Joe,Rose and Mary). Each of these > categories are child of the People's category (yes, those are people names). > In this example the overlay shows the same icons for the 3 > categories(People's tag icon). So there is no way to know the categories > names the image belongs at the very first look. Still would like to see, > when in browse mode, the categories name in some place. I believe the icon related portion of this bug has been reported at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332584 - though the naming part isn't. It is simple to pop up labels for the tags shown in Edit mode, but it is more difficult for Browse mode because the icons aren't drawn as separate widgets but onto a common canvas (I believe). This part of the issue probably has been reported in some other bug, though I'm not sure. Thanks for the ideas, they are appreciated. Gabriel From mercen@mercen.org Sun Jun 4 05:37:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1540B3B013C for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 05:37:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08301-08 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 05:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (smtp4-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.30]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49CAB3B00BD for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 05:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pu-erh (lns-bzn-26-82-254-105-206.adsl.proxad.net [82.254.105.206]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999E8547E8 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 11:37:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mercen by pu-erh with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Fmp3u-00072T-Qr for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 11:38:22 +0200 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 11:38:22 +0200 From: Thomas Paris To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060604093822.GD23532@pu-erh> Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org References: <1142363109.12790.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1142368032.8661.127.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1142631005.12801.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1148508089.13380.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1148508089.13380.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Compare photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 09:37:40 -0000 Hi James, Thanks for working on this feature. I've just given your patch a very quick try and I think, once it's ready, I'm gonna love it. On Wed May 24 at 23:01 (+0100), you wrote: > To use the compare view select two (or more) photos in icon view then > select the new full screen view icon (I'm not to sure how to make a new > icon just yet) with the "Compare photos" tip. Do we really need a new mode? Can't comparison be a special case of Edit? What I'm trying to say is that I believe it would be good enough to have only one button to go to both "normal" Edit Mode (EM) and Compare View (CV). If only one picture is selected then go to EM. If several have been selected then go to CV. How does that sound? Or maybe have Edit Mode itself be used for comparison? You might have guessed I don't like the demultiplication of modes and views ;) > Finally - is this even useful? Sure is! Thanks again for your work! Thomas PARIS -- http://mercen.org <- news http://mercen.org/gallery <- photos From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 4 09:35:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6EB3B0155 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:35:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19867-03 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F273B009F for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:35:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k54DZ9EH010655 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 4 Jun 2006 23:35:09 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: Tys von Gaza In-Reply-To: <7749526e0605021653p37309326vacde825683cf432@mail.gmail.com> References: <7749526e0605021653p37309326vacde825683cf432@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 23:35:11 +1000 Message-Id: <1149428112.10029.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem make installing X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 13:35:15 -0000 On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 17:53 -0600, Tys von Gaza wrote: > I've got f-spot compling on ubuntu dapper but am running into the > following problem when running make install, any suggestions? > > Making install in po > make[1]: Entering directory `/home/tys/src/fspotcvs/f-spot/po' > make[1]: install_sh@: Command not found > make[1]: *** [install-data-yes] Error 127 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tys/src/fspotcvs/f-spot/po' > make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 > _______________________________________________ I never managed to figure out the reason for this, but the quick and dirty workaround (which needs to be re-applied every now and then), is to add the absolut path to install-sh in po/Makefile. In my case install_sh = /home/bengt/CVS/f-spot/f-spot/install-sh From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Sun Jun 4 20:28:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587BC3B0248 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:28:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21815-04 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:28:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52A43B029E for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:28:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so939442wri for ; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:28:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=PElp/4zEdhyVapmAJRrnypJALSF8r5wF+/xx5V14J6H9PSwSl/35HUvyc+2n8EdgQcfGFfEsDLPmbG29dVNJDWBw8yPlNM5xaOYBLsc++6HNSDsAOFkdzedVrU5XiyafUsrPaz2duJkpYRAVa1+G6qRvfGBiLU2kTDias/xqQ/E= Received: by 10.65.250.16 with SMTP id c16mr3034438qbs; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f13sm1779141qba.2006.06.04.17.28.45; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44837AB9.4070402@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 20:28:41 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Patch for pre-caching Images X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 00:28:48 -0000 Hi all, I've created a patch that enables pre-caching of the 'expected next' item in full-screen mode (and secondarily in 'edit-photo' mode as well). I couldn't find a bug to attach the patch to, so I created a new one: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343856 Basically, with the patch, f-spot tries to guess what image you are going to load next, and loads it in the background - if it completes the background load before you switch to the next image, then it redraws immediately, rather than doing the slow, progressive load thing. I'm interested in feedback on this from other people --- for me, it makes a *huge* difference when viewing images in full-screen mode... Warren From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 5 01:46:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11BC3B04C0 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 01:46:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05459-08 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 01:46:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF383B0297 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 01:46:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k555kZ5D001090 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 15:46:36 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 15:46:41 +1000 Message-Id: <1149486401.7586.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Subject: cannot install `libfspot.la' X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 05:46:41 -0000 Is it only me, or have something changed during the last few days? /Bengt > bengt@jolly:~/CVS/f-spot/f-spot$ ./autogen.sh --prefix=/opt/unstable/f-spot > make all install > > /bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs /opt/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot > /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=install /usr/bin/install -c libfspot.la /opt/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/libfspot.la > libtool: install: error: cannot install `libfspot.la' to a directory not ending in /usr/local/lib/f-spot > make[2]: *** [install-fspotlibLTLIBRARIES] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/bengt/CVS/f-spot/f-spot/libfspot' > make[1]: *** [install-am] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/bengt/CVS/f-spot/f-spot/libfspot' > make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 5 23:09:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665183B0074 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 23:09:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18950-01 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 23:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6AE3B0005 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 23:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5639KSU018437 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 13:09:22 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 13:09:30 +1000 Message-Id: <1149563370.7586.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Another small 2 liner patch (343970) X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 03:09:26 -0000 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343970 Rittyan found a bug where the time in browsemode is in local time, but the time in the info box is in UTC time. >From IRC session I think I found a bug... in our f-spot's browsers photo's date is 6:26 and 6:57... and on sidebar its 2:26 and 2:57... nothing about this "2:26" and "2:57" in metadata browser :< (real time of course is 6am) http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/5682/fspotbug6df.jpg Checking the InfoBox.cs code on row 271 gives: date_label.Text = String.Format ("{0}\n{1}", photo.Time.ToShortDateString (), photo.Time.ToShortTimeString ()); And checking IconView.cs on row 245 gives: if (cell_width > 200) { date = photo.Time.ToLocalTime ().ToString (); } else { date = photo.Time.ToLocalTime ().ToShortDateString (); } The patch I created is as follows: date_label.Text = String.Format ("{0}\n{1}", - photo.Time.ToShortDateString (), - photo.Time.ToShortTimeString ()); + photo.Time.ToLocalTime ().ToShortDateString (), + photo.Time.ToLocalTime ().ToShortTimeString ()); From drberg1000@gmail.com Wed Jun 7 13:33:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F057F3B0135 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 13:33:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00939-03 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 13:33:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111163B00C6 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 13:33:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id x31so357322pye for ; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:33:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=rrrDuk7thGbmxCaV+GpDgO64AwgBzkX9b2BdjNGQ+YeaRhQg7sVHAqTbP9GyoMI4x73agoWOBS1RAN6LBlGQGAyTvOFbtAD9JvKtMaW1DAOw/OoXLma0PVCI95fGE98Kj+Tau7HhLIEgBZG8kGg5+CXqpLKVW9q4INobBEeinhE= Received: by 10.35.40.10 with SMTP id s10mr1001021pyj; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.86.11 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 10:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 12:33:03 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.674 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.632, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.674 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 17:33:06 -0000 I just imported some photos from my camera which does not have any orientation information. I rotated the photos, then exported them to flickr. When viewing them on flickr they are not rotated. I also notice that when I view the image in the Metadata Browser the images are not rotated there. I do not have flickr "auto-magically" rotating images when they are uploaded. Am I missing something or is this a bug? From lewing@novell.com Wed Jun 7 14:02:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1C73B088A for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:02:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02871-10 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA533B0BDC for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17179 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2006 18:02:03 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jun 2006 18:02:03 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: David Berg In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 13:10:13 -0500 Message-Id: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.463 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.064, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.463 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 18:02:05 -0000 On the flickr site turn on the auto rotate option, that will let them display the way you expect there. F-Spot rotates jpegs by changing the exif orientation of the image because it is a small relatively safe modification. This produces an image just like what the camera would have produced if it did have an orientation sensor. I chose to do it this way because f-spot supports loading these images correctly and other rotation methods, lossless or otherwise, require much more drastic modifications to but the image and the metadata. The metadata dialog displays the thumbnail stored in the exif data which is always stored with the sensor orientation, so that is how you would expect it to look. That said, I will probably add an option to the preferences dialog to do rotation of the coefficients sometime in the near future because the code is already in f-spot for other reasons and some people prefer it. --Larry On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 12:33 -0500, David Berg wrote: > I just imported some photos from my camera which does not have any > orientation information. I rotated the photos, then exported them to > flickr. When viewing them on flickr they are not rotated. I also > notice that when I view the image in the Metadata Browser the images > are not rotated there. I do not have flickr "auto-magically" rotating > images when they are uploaded. > > Am I missing something or is this a bug? > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list From drberg1000@gmail.com Thu Jun 8 00:57:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43C33B031C for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 00:57:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07464-03 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 00:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB2A3B02B2 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 00:57:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id f25so417713pyf for ; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 21:57:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kyEBRFvWPiHV/Jy8sgVIKhVJJisyU/sOYSWSObFfmz4qeiiXfe9v6PGvBUYIpzK94x/19oUiiSJUfTZ2gQ3N1JRYyPC12ZlssbWPsJ+g2lLOHwypoZr2bAgwLLqh6OVDwW6pOLVGKlOVmycQ0AVkV+NPy+Fdj5AduYMHokaQ8sY= Received: by 10.35.89.10 with SMTP id r10mr1795799pyl; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 21:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.86.11 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 21:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 23:57:48 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.403 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.197, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.403 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 04:57:51 -0000 On 6/7/06, Larry Ewing wrote: > On the flickr site turn on the auto rotate option, that will let them > display the way you expect there. F-Spot rotates jpegs by changing the Hmmmm..... An f-spot rotated image does not display as rotated on flickr weather I use their "auto rotate" or not. Using their online uploading tool instead of f-spot's also doesn't make a difference. Again, am I missing something? --Dave > exif orientation of the image because it is a small relatively safe > modification. This produces an image just like what the camera would > have produced if it did have an orientation sensor. I chose to do it > this way because f-spot supports loading these images correctly and > other rotation methods, lossless or otherwise, require much more drastic > modifications to but the image and the metadata. The metadata dialog > displays the thumbnail stored in the exif data which is always stored > with the sensor orientation, so that is how you would expect it to look. > > That said, I will probably add an option to the preferences dialog to do > rotation of the coefficients sometime in the near future because the > code is already in f-spot for other reasons and some people prefer it. > > --Larry > > On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 12:33 -0500, David Berg wrote: > > I just imported some photos from my camera which does not have any > > orientation information. I rotated the photos, then exported them to > > flickr. When viewing them on flickr they are not rotated. I also > > notice that when I view the image in the Metadata Browser the images > > are not rotated there. I do not have flickr "auto-magically" rotating > > images when they are uploaded. > > > > Am I missing something or is this a bug? > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > From jaq@spacepants.org Thu Jun 8 01:51:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6323B055F for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 01:51:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10157-02 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 01:51:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx01.anchor.net.au (mx01.anchor.net.au [202.4.234.253]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE95D3B0540 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 01:51:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dawn.casa (office.bridge.anchor.net.au [202.4.235.109]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.anchor.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92EB21C4D8 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:51:40 +1000 (EST) Received: by dawn.casa (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E46562B05DD; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:52:42 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:52:42 +1000 From: Jamie Wilkinson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060608055242.GC21445@spacepants.org> Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org References: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: beefmail v0.0 X-No-CC: Please respect the setting of my Mail-Followup-To header User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.398 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.066, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.398 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 05:51:44 -0000 This one time, at band camp, David Berg wrote: >On 6/7/06, Larry Ewing wrote: >>On the flickr site turn on the auto rotate option, that will let them >>display the way you expect there. F-Spot rotates jpegs by changing the > >Hmmmm..... An f-spot rotated image does not display as rotated on >flickr weather I use their "auto rotate" or not. Using their online >uploading tool instead of f-spot's also doesn't make a difference. > >Again, am I missing something? I noticed a comment in the FlickrRemote.cs file yesterday that says something along the lines of "FIXME: flickr needs rotation", so I suspect that the orientation data could be included in the file upload. I've been playing around in there so if I find out what's going on with that I'll submit a patch. No guarantees though ;-) From steffentchr@gmail.com Wed Jun 7 03:22:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1D73B0C5C for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 03:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22221-08 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 03:22:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BD13B0343 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 03:22:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h2so84527nfe for ; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:22:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to:from:subject:date:x-mailer:sender; b=sBXtRxvuIP++tQikDFyVodcxJq3nExQ8hGuP5+j16BbDL8LHJvS0FP0mqJqfcPpS+ETMoeWzBmc0jTZsZ3PafOP+SQT4YTzO7ehnVB/SHrNq3Eg8Sg2ddcdaW2oZKFGV+Oc5sUFMFAnT8yndtnVsdLQDNteCcQxAgMeGkAXkeZY= Received: by 10.48.157.15 with SMTP id f15mr187524nfe; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.17.57? ( [83.93.78.185]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2sm585578nfe.2006.06.07.00.22.41; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <50103E49-B987-4933-8D00-F99D37F674DD@refresh.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Steffen Tiedemann Christensen Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 09:22:40 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) Sender: Steffen Tiedemann Christensen X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:55:08 -0400 Subject: Setting the endpoint of the Flickr API X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 07:22:45 -0000 Hi guys, I'm a member of the development team at 23 (http://www.23hq.com), and I have a small request/suggestion in that regard. Various photo sharing sites (i.e. our own and beta.zooomr.com) have implemented the Flickr API and allow third party apps such as F-Spot to enable photo export simply by changing the API endpoint. Would it be possible to allow user to manually change the Flickr API endpoint from http:///www.flickr.com/services/rest to something different such as http://www.23hq.com/services/rest or http:// beta.zooomr.com/services/rest. (Refer to this forum thread http://www.23hq.com/forums/message-view? message_id=742083 for a 23 user who got F-Spot exporting to work simply by adding a line to his /etc/hosts file -- this indicates that no other changes are needed in order have full cross-site support with your current code.) Thanks, Steffen Tiedemann Christensen http://www.23hq.com steffen@23hq.com From m487396@rocketmail.com Thu Jun 8 05:12:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F753B0598 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 05:12:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21911-04 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 05:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.86]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D9753B0505 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 05:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 75403 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jun 2006 09:12:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rocketmail.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=CiE/PEk3TmueAOqiBUMhBMt8S8GjK+FL2y81Gt0DE3fHOccQJBnFR7wARvRyZNLUWQo7jzzEN0CWjMo+zjyzMFP9qz0xAO3leDyCiqc6sX8ez4VZtNIxKD9znRZXjcqMbomU8eq9CscFkF8ZFnZSB5FArfksbt0E7bPZF2+WcuU= ; Message-ID: <20060608091250.75401.qmail@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [211.31.121.246] by web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:12:50 EST Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:12:50 +1000 (EST) From: "Mark A. Bell" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:55:08 -0400 Subject: problem compiling on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:12:52 -0000 Hello, I'd like to compile the f-spot-0.1.11 release on Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper. I used 'apt-get build-dep f-spot' to download dependencies. I downloaded the f-spot-0.1.11.tar.bz2 archive. ./configure fails at the following: checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate appending configuration tag "F77" to libtool checking what warning flags to pass to the C compiler... -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes checking what language compliance flags to pass to the C compiler... checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.0... yes (version 2.10.3) checking for mono... /usr/bin/mono checking for mcs... /usr/bin/mcs checking for mono.pc... found checking for Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll... configure: error: missing required mono DLL: Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll However, find / -iname 'Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll' Gives: /usr/lib/mono/gac/Mono.Data.SqliteClient/2.0.0.0__0738eb9f132ed756/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll /usr/lib/mono/2.0/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll Is my configure script looking for the file in the wrong place? Suggestions gratefully received. - mark /f-spot-0.1.11 Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com From lewing@novell.com Thu Jun 8 15:07:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E023B102C for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:07:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30616-09 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461233B1028 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18685 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2006 19:07:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Jun 2006 19:07:43 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Steffen Tiedemann Christensen In-Reply-To: <50103E49-B987-4933-8D00-F99D37F674DD@refresh.dk> References: <50103E49-B987-4933-8D00-F99D37F674DD@refresh.dk> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:15:45 -0500 Message-Id: <1149794146.13936.4.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.463 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.064, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.463 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Setting the endpoint of the Flickr API X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:07:50 -0000 Yeah happy to. It may be a little while before I have the time to add it since it really needs some UI changes to make much sense from the user's perspective. --Larry On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 09:22 +0200, Steffen Tiedemann Christensen wrote: > Hi guys, > > I'm a member of the development team at 23 (http://www.23hq.com), and > I have a small request/suggestion in that regard. Various photo > sharing sites (i.e. our own and beta.zooomr.com) have implemented the > Flickr API and allow third party apps such as F-Spot to enable photo > export simply by changing the API endpoint. > Would it be possible to allow user to manually change the Flickr API > endpoint from http:///www.flickr.com/services/rest to something > different such as http://www.23hq.com/services/rest or http:// > beta.zooomr.com/services/rest. > > (Refer to this forum thread http://www.23hq.com/forums/message-view? > message_id=742083 for a 23 user who got F-Spot exporting to work > simply by adding a line to his /etc/hosts file -- this indicates that > no other changes are needed in order have full cross-site support > with your current code.) > > > Thanks, > Steffen Tiedemann Christensen > http://www.23hq.com > steffen@23hq.com > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list From nick@communicontent.com Thu Jun 8 15:32:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92073B0774 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32276-07 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:32:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pfepb.post.tele.dk (pfepb.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.236]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D93B3B000E for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:32:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nick.communicontent.com (unknown [87.48.90.98]) by pfepb.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 6972DA50096 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 21:31:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by nick.communicontent.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 8 Jun 2006 21:44:43 +0200 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 21:44:43 +0200 From: Nick Wilson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r802 (Linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.532 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.068, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.532 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Wilson List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:32:16 -0000 hi everyone, is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive thanks! -- Nick Wilson http://performancing.com/user/1 From gcgaf-f-spot-list@m.gmane.org Thu Jun 8 16:00:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55823B0F8F for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 16:00:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01410-10 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 16:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28B23B0730 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 16:00:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FoQgD-0003YJ-0p for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:00:33 +0200 Received: from p54a195b5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.161.149.181]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:00:33 +0200 Received: from colin by p54a195b5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:00:33 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Colin Marquardt Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 21:58:21 +0200 Organization: I'd rather call it chaos. Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54a195b5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de Mail-Copies-To: never X-Draft-From: ("gmane.comp.gnome.apps.f-spot" 764) X-message-flag: Please don't add me to your address book if you are using Outlook. Thanks, Colin. X-Jabber-UID: cmarqu (see http://www.jabber.org) X-Home-Page: http://www.marquardt-home.de X-GnuPG-Key: gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.us.pgp.net --recv-keys 5359F413 X-Fingerprint: 6D9B 01B4 F8B9 500F 3056 D74F D27F EBF5 5359 F413 Cancel-Lock: sha1:x1VlmVATagVM8AvUpOEQWvh8OcI= Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.573 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.028, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.573 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 20:00:55 -0000 Nick Wilson writes: > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive Gnome applications use gconf, so in theory, you'd be able to change this setting via e.g. gconf-editor, under apps/fspot/..., but at least my f-spot version 0.1.11 doesn't allow to configure that directory. Cheers, Colin From nick@communicontent.com Thu Jun 8 17:21:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0813D3B06A5 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:21:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06221-10 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:21:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pfepb.post.tele.dk (pfepb.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.236]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF883B0FA3 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:21:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nick.communicontent.com (0x57305a62.naenxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [87.48.90.98]) by pfepb.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 15B7EA50004 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 23:21:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: by nick.communicontent.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 8 Jun 2006 23:34:40 +0200 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 23:34:40 +0200 From: Nick Wilson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060608213440.GD28036@communicontent.com> References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r802 (Linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.524 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.060, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.524 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Wilson List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 21:21:24 -0000 * and then Colin Marquardt declared.... > Nick Wilson writes: > > > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive > > Gnome applications use gconf, so in theory, you'd be able to change > this setting via e.g. gconf-editor, under apps/fspot/..., but at > least my f-spot version 0.1.11 doesn't allow to configure that > directory. ah, i downloaded that, thanks. Shame, mine doesn't have it either. I did successfully move Photos/ and then soft link to it, so maybe i can do something like that to get it doing what i want (ive never used NFS so have no clue really on that..) thanks -- Nick Wilson http://performancing.com/user/1 From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Thu Jun 8 17:35:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410B43B0105 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:35:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07181-02 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:35:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0180B3B000E for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:35:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i12so716162wra for ; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:35:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=QdYV9h9749DmL5097FYmFdvr21aVqNaGBYXjOt9CH+QmINjPdjbCy6uERkxSYIbfCFYziiDbUZPHOI1wSzO4GixpCgsnV618OBKyFVBW/vEp+NY4lvCKoVgDMe2MLy4WgIoaaoXqs+dTu9PHeU5BD6oH/+GGXhQKrcy7XMmS58Q= Received: by 10.54.126.1 with SMTP id y1mr2189765wrc; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.26.1.18? ( [216.95.183.94]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 8sm1984091wra.2006.06.08.14.35.19; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 17:35:18 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> In-Reply-To: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.531 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.531 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 21:35:24 -0000 Nick Wilson wrote: > hi everyone, > > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive > > thanks! I sent a patch to the mailing list a while back that added a '--photoDir' option to f-spot, so you can put both the db, and any imported photos in a specific directory. My particular use case is I want to have a collection of photos directly on my laptop's hard drive, but I want to have another collection of photos on a portable hard drive, and I wanted an easy way to switch between them. I thought I had attached this to a bug, but it looks like I never did. I think the patch I previously submitted was against the last snapshot --- I'll put together a patch against head and submit it tonight... Warren From bengt@thuree.com Thu Jun 8 19:42:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8EF3B00FA for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:42:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13151-10 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:42:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EFD3B0408 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:42:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k58NfpPm015892 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 9 Jun 2006 09:41:54 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: Warren Baird In-Reply-To: <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 09:41:56 +1000 Message-Id: <1149810116.7586.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 23:42:05 -0000 On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 17:35 -0400, Warren Baird wrote: > Nick Wilson wrote: > > hi everyone, > > > > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive > > > > thanks! > > I sent a patch to the mailing list a while back that added a > '--photoDir' option to f-spot, so you can put both the db, and any > imported photos in a specific directory. > > My particular use case is I want to have a collection of photos directly > on my laptop's hard drive, but I want to have another collection of > photos on a portable hard drive, and I wanted an easy way to switch > between them. > > I thought I had attached this to a bug, but it looks like I never did. > I think the patch I previously submitted was against the last > snapshot --- I'll put together a patch against head and submit it tonight... > > Warren I put together a very much preliminary patch to let F-Spot use a global configuration file as well. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331953 Here is another bug (with a patch) to let user change Photos directory. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325166 From nick@communicontent.com Fri Jun 9 17:12:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7AB3B00FE for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21145-06 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:12:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pfepc.post.tele.dk (pfepc.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E3A3B0108 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:12:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nick.communicontent.com (0x57305a62.naenxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [87.48.90.98]) by pfepc.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id BEBF28A0032 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 23:12:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: by nick.communicontent.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 9 Jun 2006 23:26:37 +0200 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 23:26:37 +0200 From: Nick Wilson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060609212637.GA14439@communicontent.com> References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <1149810116.7586.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1149810116.7586.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r802 (Linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.496 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.032, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.496 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Wilson List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 21:12:58 -0000 * and then Bengt Thuree declared.... > > > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > > > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > > > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive > > > > > > thanks! > > > > I sent a patch to the mailing list a while back that added a > > '--photoDir' option to f-spot, so you can put both the db, and any > > imported photos in a specific directory. > > > > My particular use case is I want to have a collection of photos directly > > on my laptop's hard drive, but I want to have another collection of > > photos on a portable hard drive, and I wanted an easy way to switch > > between them. > > > > I thought I had attached this to a bug, but it looks like I never did. > > I think the patch I previously submitted was against the last > > snapshot --- I'll put together a patch against head and submit it tonight... > I put together a very much preliminary patch to let F-Spot use a global > configuration file as well. > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331953 > > Here is another bug (with a patch) to let user change Photos directory. > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325166 Thanks for the help everyone. It turns out that f-spot works just fine if you swap the ~/Photos dir for a symlink, and if that symlink is pointed at an NFS mount, you can indeed keep all your photos on one drive and allow multiple boxes to access it. I've yet to set it up properly, but testing worked just great, now i just have to redo the storage box the way i want it and we're in business :) -- Nick Wilson http://performancing.com/user/1 From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 9 18:55:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F473B0370 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:55:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26392-04 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:55:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.199]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDC83B0301 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:55:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k59MthQJ017111 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:55:44 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: Nick Wilson In-Reply-To: <20060609212637.GA14439@communicontent.com> References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <1149810116.7586.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060609212637.GA14439@communicontent.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:55:50 +1000 Message-Id: <1149893750.7586.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 22:55:51 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 23:26 +0200, Nick Wilson wrote: > It turns out that f-spot works just fine if you swap the ~/Photos dir > for a symlink, and if that symlink is pointed at an NFS mount, you can > indeed keep all your photos on one drive and allow multiple boxes to > access it. > > I've yet to set it up properly, but testing worked just great, now i > just have to redo the storage box the way i want it and we're in > business :) > Are you using the latest CVS? I am using the latest CVS, and have my home directory on an NFS mount. F-Spot will not enable the Edit icons in Edit view due to this. See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344403 /Bengt From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 9 21:21:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0243B028B for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:21:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00418-01 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:21:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.196]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADD53B00D0 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:21:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5A1LDsA016968 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:21:13 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:21:13 +1000 Message-Id: <1149902473.7586.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Subject: SendEmail in MainWindow? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:21:17 -0000 Hi Seems like part of the resize photos for emails are in the MainWindow.cs, but the SendMail.cs file is missing. > $ grep SendEmail MainWindow.cs > new FSpot.SendEmail (new FSpot.PhotoArray (SelectedPhotos ())); Perhaps introduced when reverting MainWindow? /bengt From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 9 22:28:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7EC3B0161 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 22:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03436-09 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 22:28:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4BE3B01D0 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 22:28:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5A2SPJC003635 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:28:25 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list In-Reply-To: <1149902473.7586.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1149902473.7586.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:28:26 +1000 Message-Id: <1149906507.7586.87.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: SendEmail in MainWindow? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:28:31 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 11:21 +1000, Bengt Thuree wrote: > Seems like part of the resize photos for emails are in the > MainWindow.cs, but the SendMail.cs file is missing. > > $ grep SendEmail MainWindow.cs > > new FSpot.SendEmail (new FSpot.PhotoArray (SelectedPhotos ())); > > Perhaps introduced when reverting MainWindow? Or more likely by someone called murphy at my place :( After deleting all, and checkout a new version of F-Spot it worked fine. /Bengt From jaq@spacepants.org Sat Jun 10 01:33:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964973B028B for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:33:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10716-06 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx01.anchor.net.au (mx01.anchor.net.au [202.4.234.253]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655CD3B0169 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dawn.casa (203-166-247-250.dyn.iinet.net.au [203.166.247.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.anchor.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4681C6F9 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:33:08 +1000 (EST) Received: by dawn.casa (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CE0502B0BA7; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:34:10 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:34:10 +1000 From: Jamie Wilkinson To: f-spot-list Message-ID: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailer: beefmail v0.0 X-No-CC: Please respect the setting of my Mail-Followup-To header User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.034 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_WHOIS_BOGONS=2.43] X-Spam-Score: -0.034 X-Spam-Level: Subject: building with ccache X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:33:11 -0000 Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs? Now I've got a few branches of f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing. From maxima.mlist@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 05:40:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249773B0130 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:40:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23000-07 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:40:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38543B044D for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:40:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1054485pyd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:40:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=sb9Yr5B0RGgit+ST7bP1rNs6hHp/T7vcSqmIxQ/NTXJPbrG1zCDAY1NK8MwDxh9FH9XPLsH6UoNggW5QEXMCi/wPjIBSIfRvsQrTTTSfBOThVYedWBF2Bmg3bxLiiu/Sl7uW2rOcynaZ6buF79sPkJaCh2PZZWq2Hpy7TXx49fA= Received: by 10.35.91.15 with SMTP id t15mr934583pyl; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from debussy.harmony ( [203.206.244.79]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k53sm1789689pyd.2006.06.10.02.40.50; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:40:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Arif Lukito To: Jamie Wilkinson In-Reply-To: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> References: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-RHtnQ5hPXSxZloA4yo5B" Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:40:47 +1000 Message-Id: <1149932447.18989.0.camel@debussy.harmony> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.035 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_WHOIS_BOGONS=2.43, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.035 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list Subject: Re: building with ccache X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:40:56 -0000 --=-RHtnQ5hPXSxZloA4yo5B Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 15:34 +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs? Now I've got a few branches of > f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the > build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing > obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing. Isn't that ccache is only for C and C++ ? -- Arif Lukito --=-RHtnQ5hPXSxZloA4yo5B Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 15:34 +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: 
Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs?  Now I've got a few branches of
f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the
build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing
obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing.
Isn't that ccache is only for C and C++ ?


--
Arif Lukito <maxima.mlist@gmail.com>
--=-RHtnQ5hPXSxZloA4yo5B-- From m.j.hutchinson@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 09:09:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6593B04A6 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:09:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03255-08 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:09:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.207]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDF93B0479 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:09:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i30so764988wxd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 06:09:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Qut/7C/0Ntt7OY7KFW+icHgUMPZ9U4euqqzUsT7/65llNw6Z0ScOU46mU02+bDFt4NXIx/Zv8K3HO0y3V6O9uq/t5NAmFvbZvnrWI+O2IIcjo1K75JHUAbt39s1OUkEr/MqrLqc7bQ0lf7vcUPBHu+u11IMS+rJdN1IdqEpQXv0= Received: by 10.70.8.2 with SMTP id 2mr4547431wxh; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 06:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.124.9 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 06:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 14:09:42 +0100 From: "Michael Hutchinson" To: f-spot-list In-Reply-To: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.259 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.341, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.259 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: building with ccache X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:09:45 -0000 On 6/10/06, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs? Now I've got a few branches of > f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the > build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing > obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing. Won't work with mcs. Even it it did, mcs is many times faster than gcc, so you wouldn't see much of a difference. You could maybe put it in front of the C parts of f-spot. Michael From drberg1000@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 11:02:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2CF3B0237 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10145-05 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:02:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F2D3B0227 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:02:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1106948pyd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:02:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uqi4FAHLtjox6py+LI4LzOTRwIwtRp2JR//+QHuhAnla3qhZ1fcJZOqEj7b5q2Zz/7fd7lqn67ouLjvfEYbqv2grbuxO5p2oqNIo1Qr9TEMN5/SILmWCI5Bv4s3Fr+YMXArE+woYFue2mfWkMYbaslLZ/cDcuS1fdn6hWtd4oZ4= Received: by 10.35.46.6 with SMTP id y6mr3646121pyj; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.82.13 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 10:02:00 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20060608055242.GC21445@spacepants.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> <20060608055242.GC21445@spacepants.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.666 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.624, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.666 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:02:07 -0000 On 6/8/06, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > This one time, at band camp, David Berg wrote: > >On 6/7/06, Larry Ewing wrote: > >>On the flickr site turn on the auto rotate option, that will let them > >>display the way you expect there. F-Spot rotates jpegs by changing the > > > >Hmmmm..... An f-spot rotated image does not display as rotated on > >flickr weather I use their "auto rotate" or not. Using their online > >uploading tool instead of f-spot's also doesn't make a difference. > > > >Again, am I missing something? > > I noticed a comment in the FlickrRemote.cs file yesterday that says > something along the lines of "FIXME: flickr needs rotation", so I suspect > that the orientation data could be included in the file upload. I don't know how f-spot is organized so I could be wrong but I don't think its a problem with any code specific to flickr. I remember this morning that my camera would rotate images by adjusting exif as well and tried it using that to rotate instead of f-spot. When I uploaded a camera-rotated-image flickr auto-rotated it. I uploaded the image both using the web interface and f-spot and both methods worked fine. When I ran exif on an image I had rotated using f-spot and compared it to this one I found that the camera-rotated-image had these entries for Orientation: dberg@dale:~/Photos/2006/6/10$ exif DSC02341.JPG | grep Orientation Orientation |right - top Orientation |right - top Where as the image rotated in f-spot had these entries: dberg@dale:~/Photos/2006/6/10$ exif DSC02342.JPG | grep Orientation Orientation |right - top Orientation |top - left Apparently flickr looks at both or just the second and is either confused by the mismatched info or decides it doesn't need to be rotated. Should I file a bug for this? --Dave > > I've been playing around in there so if I find out what's going on with that > I'll submit a patch. No guarantees though ;-) > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From bengt@thuree.com Sat Jun 10 11:12:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C3A3B028F for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:12:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10802-09 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:12:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FCF3B0187 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5AFCQfe005287 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 01:12:27 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: David Berg In-Reply-To: References: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> <20060608055242.GC21445@spacepants.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 01:12:36 +1000 Message-Id: <1149952357.7586.101.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:12:35 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 10:02 -0500, David Berg wrote: > > Should I file a bug for this? > Please do, since that is the sure way to ensure nothing gets lost during the way.... :) Good finding :) /Bengt From tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie Sat Jun 10 11:46:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADA33B01D7 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:46:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12287-04 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:46:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alfred.murphy.ie (unknown [86.43.71.228]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944AA3B0227 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alfred.murphy.ie (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alfred.murphy.ie (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5AFkbvD011987 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:46:37 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by alfred.murphy.ie (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k5AFka96011984 for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:46:36 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: alfred.murphy.ie: tim set sender to tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie using -f From: Timothy Murphy Organization: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:46:35 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200606101646.36200.tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.579 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.020, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.579 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Is f-spot what I want? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:46:57 -0000 I'm afraid it's not clear to me exactly what f-spot does (or how one gets it to do whatever that is). Basically, I have a few folders containing JPEGs, maybe 300 in all, and I want to offer them on my web-site. Can I use f-spot to create a web photo gallery? If so, what commands exactly should I give? I looked at the User Guide, but I'm afraid I didn't learn much from it. Is there a simple tutorial or howto somewhere? Any suggestions or advice gratefully received. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland From ken@vandine.org Sat Jun 10 11:58:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7623B02AC for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12471-07 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (unknown [24.25.9.100]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08923B0305 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (cpe-071-065-240-185.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.240.185]) by ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5AFwiTS025959; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken VanDine To: tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie In-Reply-To: <200606101646.36200.tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie> References: <200606101646.36200.tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:52 -0400 Message-Id: <1149955132.5110.2.camel@foobar> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.082 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.517, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.082 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Is f-spot what I want? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:58:55 -0000 You can export them to create a web gallery. http://f-spot.org/User_Guide/Share#Generate_a_Website_Gallery F-Spot is a tool for managing your library of photos. Part of that management is being able to export the photos you select and resize for the web. There are several methods for doing so, check that link out and see if it does what you want. Enjoy f-spot! --Ken On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 16:46 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I'm afraid it's not clear to me exactly what f-spot does > (or how one gets it to do whatever that is). > > Basically, I have a few folders containing JPEGs, > maybe 300 in all, > and I want to offer them on my web-site. > Can I use f-spot to create a web photo gallery? > If so, what commands exactly should I give? > > I looked at the User Guide, > but I'm afraid I didn't learn much from it. > > Is there a simple tutorial or howto somewhere? > Any suggestions or advice gratefully received. > From qub333@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 12:16:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6087A3B02AC for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:16:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13756-02 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:16:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.199]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540C63B0538 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:14:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 9so1255881nzo for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:14:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=GB86vqRKdEeOzi28pIfkBAsCyEH7ygXq9FBpSFrMwCpGU6lxZUMPDBJhYx5g5YTinsWlqL59dAJWwdJqJoJbOhf9fiPxNoMKhYYkzc9lOl5ipX4+DqmgKlnDM+TEjeaczi9JI6A2eeL+ep5nKucozR+GdJKb1PFqeiwjeQiybKs= Received: by 10.36.224.49 with SMTP id w49mr3904026nzg; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.4 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <88d636060606100914y2a85732fk46a51842dc2aa41a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:14:33 -0400 From: "Kevin Kubasik" Sender: qub333@gmail.com To: "Mark A. Bell" In-Reply-To: <20060608091250.75401.qmail@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060608091250.75401.qmail@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8e590672541337ac X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.548 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.052, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.548 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: problem compiling on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:16:16 -0000 Try the following, just to be sure sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get build-dep f-spot ./configure --prefix=/usr //becasue you are on an debian based system, you need to use the /use prefix -Kevin Kubasik On 6/8/06, Mark A. Bell wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to compile the f-spot-0.1.11 release on Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper. > > I used 'apt-get build-dep f-spot' to download dependencies. > I downloaded the f-spot-0.1.11.tar.bz2 archive. > > ./configure fails at the following: > > checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate > appending configuration tag "F77" to libtool > checking what warning flags to pass to the C compiler... -Wall > -Wmissing-prototypes > checking what language compliance flags to pass to the C compiler... > checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config > checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.0... yes (version 2.10.3) > checking for mono... /usr/bin/mono > checking for mcs... /usr/bin/mcs > checking for mono.pc... found > checking for Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll... configure: error: missing > required mono DLL: Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll > > However, > > find / -iname 'Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll' > > Gives: > > /usr/lib/mono/gac/Mono.Data.SqliteClient/2.0.0.0__0738eb9f132ed756/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll > /usr/lib/mono/2.0/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll > > Is my configure script looking for the file in the wrong place? > Suggestions gratefully received. > > - mark > > > > /f-spot-0.1.11 > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > -- Cheers, Kevin Kubasik http://kubasik.net/blog From m487396@rocketmail.com Sat Jun 10 15:42:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE34C3B0494 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:42:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23801-01 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:42:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.92]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E58ED3B050D for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73928 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jun 2006 19:42:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rocketmail.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=WrghfpbdBeyioC5I4vqJtyfXtA3g1ScLkKPv/o2ndn4pdLXa6UjyIZYeoC6OMSDLBGOnz6hAjDM9YhK+3ZpoCAJTwf5peTQwKl63oBnXOTvEKtj7zUiJfzWYVN8gihjIdCqulPiIaBoZVwC8iNpWG0IIet0bV9JfH9rESR2phWQ= ; Message-ID: <20060610194218.73926.qmail@web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [211.31.121.246] by web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:42:18 EST Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:42:18 +1000 (EST) From: "Mark A. Bell" To: f-spot-list In-Reply-To: <88d636060606100914y2a85732fk46a51842dc2aa41a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.577 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.577 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: problem compiling on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:42:22 -0000 --- Kevin Kubasik wrote: > Try the following, just to be sure > > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get build-dep f-spot > ./configure --prefix=/usr //becasue you are on an debian based > system, > you need to use the /use prefix > > -Kevin Kubasik Thanks kindly for your help, Kevin. I don't have much experience compiling packages from source. The problem was that I had mono-classlib-2.0, but I needed mono-classlib-1.0 instead. After fixing this, and a good deal of other packages, I got Flickr to configure and compile. I am most happy - thanks to all the Flickr developers. Why anyone would want to run Picassa on Linux is a mystery to me. - mark sydney, australia http://www.flickr.com/photos/m487396 Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com From qub333@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 22:16:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CA13B0456 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:16:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04252-07 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:16:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6EC3B0313 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:16:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i30so830058wxd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:15:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=jW8efGCqBx8QziPZrY6SDT9f2nHLSZQqv3oyGiR53yaYaIgI6OutbmzK0Og4QEdj7in+M37aSaWfRB5NCjCbjeprFMMzyCEWC+Rjd35/QI1+JRk2LwcAECH185L6wPxNytSmiwPm2vSFONosqEz5s2xbQg3GtdjbWM5ftfxSocg= Received: by 10.70.10.2 with SMTP id 2mr5071104wxj; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.108? ( [69.140.109.194]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h9sm4269697wxd.2006.06.10.19.15.33; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <448B7CC4.7020902@kubasik.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:15:32 -0400 From: Kevin Kubasik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060522) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=43337DF4; url=http://kubasik.net/KevinKubasik.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Kevin Kubasik X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.16 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.440, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.16 X-Spam-Level: Subject: F-spot and pkg-config X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:16:40 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Does f-spot install a pkg-config .pc file? I can't seem to find one, but I am working on some deeper integration between beagle and f-spot, and I need beagle to be able to check at compile time if f-spot is installed, and what version. A simple f-spot --version | awk {print $3} does work as a hack, but a more permanent/ professional solution would be nice. - -- Cheers, Kevin Kubasik 240-838-6616 http://kubasik.net/blog -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBRIt8xP3xZFNDM330AQjuFg/+Nwk8Yd14Toy+9NUK2OWpaCdyCcDwLVUf MchviVqlSx1dsHjQBFUczlHmmbHIjhivAp+p69rBlGPxOzUebTSUA50Sf1i+dafc cGUuimjBhd8LXehpHyEoKRdb/adrMcylhqtmOC52UnxmewKQ/oOd7c4Vdhqy/8+I n9HQuqUIS0FVQ6obRcLNRF+jz4PVInRyfOaqHiHD6g/wDUtgX5pRNdkGiqiC2J4F NbMytA2NJafwqCdJFFORUQ7O+3rSl0R0e7Ee9PodfeuNQNNm93+yeU+cOYNxkiPL i8seVQN2dhdjiGA+2ifYNna3yeG62q8hr/513j03JZUdjrZtfcixc0j+VeePpSWA Hy2M2qrNbZCRtRVkqrwmsMjzgn6F50bboGa3uhlSHWJ9+Jo1JNbU7pdu+DSyxqYJ NXv9eQBwMBPcwsoAua8fbgJsVD2/BeS8atRXcUUQgtkv8FPu5+WyD4+L22HGWLzX Urymjs4+iHKsZP4xt8FHTYpdaXch6YX+X5LDdLzkLd9RtR98C8pAEbxB6V11jisQ qnImNe42UHLGNz69mbIPWRX3AgruVlrrENfwSPTegAfAI3X0+9Yk+ZT1nGlaWsYO pN/Bs1d1adyM2zMxrMJMN6SfveJHHsm4pzNg8tNJEwv41tEjxLeK4JR3GBrqh4NY 8ua7ZQ20iWg= =728w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jaq@spacepants.org Sat Jun 10 22:23:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580633B0313 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:23:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04933-03 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx01.anchor.net.au (mx01.anchor.net.au [202.4.234.253]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A904D3B030D for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dawn.casa (203-166-247-250.dyn.iinet.net.au [203.166.247.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.anchor.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405A01D14A for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:21:52 +1000 (EST) Received: by dawn.casa (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EFE2A2B0BA8; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:22:55 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:22:55 +1000 From: Jamie Wilkinson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060611022255.GB4953@spacepants.org> Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org References: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> <1149932447.18989.0.camel@debussy.harmony> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1149932447.18989.0.camel@debussy.harmony> X-Mailer: beefmail v0.0 X-No-CC: Please respect the setting of my Mail-Followup-To header User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.034 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_WHOIS_BOGONS=2.43] X-Spam-Score: -0.034 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: building with ccache X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:23:22 -0000 This one time, at band camp, Arif Lukito wrote: >On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 15:34 +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > >> Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs? Now I've got a few branches of >> f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the >> build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing >> obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing. > >Isn't that ccache is only for C and C++ ? I've never used it before, that's why I was asking ;-) From qub333@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 22:28:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900C43B04F1 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:28:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04593-08 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:28:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DE63B0456 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:28:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i30so830843wxd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:27:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=B96MHIhFWoOBQWWZ+acTxmyJ+nAwZUGEsEq9mQ6aUjQuwLdTnsG/mkXrqg5kCiKLA/hj+kUM+oSRmYZO61aep48FtXl+JKEGTK47ev1Tp0RlPubvzCl3p+zqpOXq0ba3prazN3D+T5OwsdeQg4eIxJo2oIEH1aNh5C3Ia0sIYwI= Received: by 10.70.26.1 with SMTP id 1mr5072738wxz; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.108? ( [69.140.109.194]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h17sm4376967wxd.2006.06.10.19.27.46; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <448B7FA2.5020908@kubasik.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:27:46 -0400 From: Kevin Kubasik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060522) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Kubasik References: <448B7CC4.7020902@kubasik.net> In-Reply-To: <448B7CC4.7020902@kubasik.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=43337DF4; url=http://kubasik.net/KevinKubasik.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Kevin Kubasik X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.199 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.401, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.199 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot and pkg-config X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:28:41 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Ok, I filed this as bug #344534 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344534 Kevin Kubasik wrote: > Does f-spot install a pkg-config .pc file? I can't seem to find one, but > I am working on some deeper integration between beagle and f-spot, and I > need beagle to be able to check at compile time if f-spot is installed, > and what version. A simple > f-spot --version | awk {print $3} > does work as a hack, but a more permanent/ professional solution would > be nice. > > - -- Cheers, Kevin Kubasik 240-838-6616 http://kubasik.net/blog -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBRIt/of3xZFNDM330AQjFhg/+M+p26fVL8cXYQVpsloho71P2Ode6yIM7 X/tcHynd/WXivm8phZMJpgFpSdsr9rUmGuLc2WCvB07K217cBo3ESV0YEDvYvoeu 0P2dCKkmu9z9sKcpJsCCCrOa/nALIoTSNFPhuxE6bcy7dPVykpLbuqg160+LGyX5 TpCnayaxO4CNZu52TrctsqMF6ana7OFhJ5zft3FE3jQ/hy41VK+2ltMn5wHQ2fNe 4BTPlvzNhFlorCbY4P5snZnA2Jss3Xg3pzugq/O990BIaoOFCRThDly+hlEYrvlm hV25rue/rtsM/1A7vH3CHM8JMnC5nJYkky3b4j6RtPoekQf0zj09gFfzUhCmCMu6 0nm9DSNLjU6fVhc4M6ZFDBz1iO/eS7Z29s9jSAt1Kk5Wkqw+bNX8BUgaXuv1NE8l wr1qWjR+gfNys8UyFcEduI0bIGfYVJCq/fwR0LJU3yAJimoLlgKgPUFBZHVxL1+9 4cSJa9NBxX4/Kva75k2WHBEmSvf/2QlWrHJEYygIlSD2x+4Gg67/X1xC+7E907YU Yw8aYDHnRKx4JFVcwhz9zY6nwaEQiT+kyu4ZOGq/4B8qVdbfknajdjKDRaEspP/Y RhhG4BcPPz3tYO63CwsT39HFfA6FXj6X7Zl6ws7s0ZB5sy5hzUUwKhWofFVT8lNx MpstHJqaSlA= =dX62 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jfc001@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 05:30:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C2D3B0095 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00548-02 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BDB3B039F for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1237268pyd for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:29:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=eVJZishWuh/BkzRmlhCsCcTL848UFOONhi6OPnFccj0y6OY/91p7FB7EG1PMjqpzikeEsROOCVXl7vjnHzCIun6ogcj2fo7U+HMc/V9oXEjFzyyWf+Ddx3GgmilNVktcmjWgx/Rj/dyyt6Z50vEZm0iclpHbWyAQwtTvoru1XGA= Received: by 10.35.57.5 with SMTP id j5mr131414pyk; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.20.7 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:29:15 -0600 From: "James Carroll" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_6231_12266151.1150018155717" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.238 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.052, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP=0.175, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.238 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 09:30:20 -0000 ------=_Part_6231_12266151.1150018155717 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6232_32330217.1150018155717" ------=_Part_6232_32330217.1150018155717 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I upgraded from Ubuntu Breezy (5.10) to Dapper (6.06), but I am still not able to run f-spot. I am able to successfully compile the latest CVS version by following the How to Build instructions, (Thanks, Bengtt!), but I get the following when trying to run f-spot, either the stable version through the package manager or the latest CVS. I have attached the full error output, both for the stable version and the CVS snapshot. The output of the two is slightly different. ** (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe:2636): WARNING **: The > following assembly referenced from /home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f- > spot.exe could not be loaded: > Assembly: gnome-sharp (assemblyref_index=9) > Version: 2.8.0.0 > Public Key: 35e10195dab3c99f > The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in > the MONO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing > assembly (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot). > > > ================================================================= > Got a SIGSEGV while executing native code. This usually indicates > a fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries > used by your application. > ================================================================= > I have looked for the variable MONO_PATH isn't set, at least not in bash. Thank you so much for the help! James Carroll ------=_Part_6232_32330217.1150018155717 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I upgraded from Ubuntu Breezy (5.10) to Dapper (6.06), but I am still not able to run f-spot.  I am able to successfully compile the latest CVS version by following the How to Build instructions, (Thanks, Bengtt!), but I get the following when trying to run f-spot, either the stable version through the package manager or the latest CVS. I have attached the full error output, both for the stable version and the CVS snapshot. The output of the two is slightly different.

** (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f- spot.exe:2636): WARNING **: The following assembly referenced from /home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe could not be loaded:
     Assembly:   gnome-sharp    (assemblyref_index=9)
     Version:    2.8.0.0
     Public Key: 35e10195dab3c99f
The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in the MONO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing assembly (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot).


=================================================================
Got a SIGSEGV while executing native code. This usually indicates
a fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries
used by your application.
=================================================================

I have looked for the variable MONO_PATH isn't set, at least not in bash.

Thank you so much for the help!
James Carroll


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Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:14:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03055-01 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:14:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.166]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C2F3B0095 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:14:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5BADUcu001565 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:13:31 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: James Carroll In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:13:41 +1000 Message-Id: <1150020822.5937.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:14:57 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 03:29 -0600, James Carroll wrote: > I upgraded from Ubuntu Breezy (5.10) to Dapper (6.06), but I am still > not able to run f-spot. I am able to successfully compile the latest > CVS version by following the How to Build instructions, (Thanks, > Bengtt!), Your'e welcome :) > but I get the following when trying to run f-spot, either the stable > version through the package manager or the latest CVS. I have attached > the full error output, both for the stable version and the CVS > snapshot. The output of the two is slightly different. > > ** (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f- spot.exe:2636): > WARNING **: The following assembly referenced > from /home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe could > not Have you done the "make install" ? F-Spot will look for some libraries in the /home/james/unstable/f-spot directory even if you run the uninstalled version. /Bengt From jfc001@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 06:42:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178CE3B03C2 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:42:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04975-03 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:42:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5553B00CB for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:42:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1245373pyd for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:40:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=iYpd1sL8Oo9JSa8vJR6yHyXLIC8hlhbaYM2LBWW0l4L7iQygBq/7qiIhkedClZsd9Vv588Ywofw09jDe79xRLkpBE9vFm/7gsryKOSmkdGBSiiA/+Dy9rntQeX3th4hJcVw81+6XWIKh+obn1m8uEvwRWHSHCjIeThTmiktRRtE= Received: by 10.35.109.2 with SMTP id l2mr2349713pym; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.20.7 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 04:40:04 -0600 From: "James Carroll" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6688_26513123.1150022404549" References: <1150020822.5937.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.331 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.134, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.331 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:42:35 -0000 ------=_Part_6688_26513123.1150022404549 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 6/11/06, Bengt Thuree wrote: > Have you done the "make install" ? Yes. But I wasn't sure from which directory to run it. From your directions, I don't think it's clear if I should be in ~/development/f-spot/f-spot/src or ~/development/f-spot/f-spot/ Either way, I ran it in both (I assume the Makefile in the parent directory calls the Makefile in the subdirectory) and I still get the same error. Do I need to run it as root (with sudo)? F-Spot will look for some libraries in the /home/james/unstable/f-spot > directory even if you run the uninstalled version. What is the "uninstalled version"? To me, it seems impossible to run a program that's not installed on your computer. Is this a common term when working with projects under development, in which you might have one version "installed" and other versions in various directories, that aren't "installed"? /Bengt James ------=_Part_6688_26513123.1150022404549 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 6/11/06, Bengt Thuree <bengt@thuree.com > wrote:
Have you done the "make install" ?

Yes. But I wasn't sure from which directory to run it.  From your directions, I don't think it's clear if I should be in
~/development/f-spot/f-spot/src
or
~/development/f-spot/f-spot/

Either way, I ran it in both (I assume the Makefile in the parent directory calls the Makefile in the subdirectory) and I still get the same error.  Do I need to run it as root (with sudo)?

F-Spot will look for some libraries in the /home/james/unstable/f-spot
directory even if you run the uninstalled version.

What is the "uninstalled version"?  To me, it seems impossible to run a program that's not installed on your computer.  Is this a common term when working with projects under development, in which you might have one version "installed" and other versions in various directories, that aren't "installed"?

/Bengt
 
James

------=_Part_6688_26513123.1150022404549-- From janne.ojaniemi@nbl.fi Sun Jun 11 07:32:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387523B063F for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06916-03 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:32:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.nblnetworks.fi (smtp2.nblnetworks.fi [217.30.182.231]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339503B0640 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:32:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (xdsl-176-84.nblnetworks.fi [217.30.176.84]) by smtp2.nblnetworks.fi (8.13.1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k5BBXu9M021198 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:33:57 +0300 From: Janne Ojaniemi To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:31:38 +0300 Message-Id: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 11:32:06 -0000 What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs are unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, F-Spot constantly fights against me. So I have a bunch of photos on my computer. They are NOT in my home-folder, but rather in /multimedia/pics. This way they are accessible to my wife as well. And in that directory, they are also divided among different folders, named after the subject. This way I can browse the pictures in filemanager as well, should the need arise. Sounds simple enough? Yes it does. But why is this setup so difficult for F-Spot to handle? I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, select "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to photos-folder", and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. After the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is it? Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to select "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to find out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me where those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are located in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the date of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be in /multimedia/pics/ I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the Photos-folder. Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same set of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I edit any of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. I just re-tried the import, after I deleted the photos-folder from my home. And again it copied the files to my home. I then deleted the photos-folder again, and the thumbnails were still visible in F-Spot, but full-size photos were not. Why can't I do something as simple as this: Tell F-spot to import photos from certain folder and NOT copy the files ANYWHERE. Just import the photos, but leave the actual files where they are! IIRC I ONCE managed to make F-spot really use the /multimedia/pics, but even then, if I imported pics from my camera, F-Spot always imported them to /home/photos. So my pictures were split among two locations, when I really want to have all my pics in one location. Why is this so hard? It feels like that F-Spot has certain way of working, and it wont budge from that way. And I would have to adjust my way of working to suit F-Spot. And we are not talking about anything fundamental here, we are talking about the location where the pictures are stored! From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 11 08:55:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1333B00E2 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:55:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09811-06 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:55:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B55F3B00BB for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:55:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5BCsXfR007188 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:54:33 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: James Carroll In-Reply-To: References: <1150020822.5937.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:54:40 +1000 Message-Id: <1150030480.5937.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:55:12 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 04:40 -0600, James Carroll wrote: > On 6/11/06, Bengt Thuree wrote: > > Have you done the "make install" ? > > Yes. But I wasn't sure from which directory to run it. From your > directions, I don't think it's clear if I should be in > ~/development/f-spot/f-spot/src > or > ~/development/f-spot/f-spot/ Ok, I updated the instructions a bit. You should do the "make all", "make install", or "make all install" from the f-spot directory. Not the src directory. > > Either way, I ran it in both (I assume the Makefile in the parent > directory calls the Makefile in the subdirectory) and I still get the > same error. Do I need to run it as root (with sudo)? No need to run it as root (sudo), since you specified a target directory which is writable by your user. > > > F-Spot will look for some libraries in > the /home/james/unstable/f-spot > directory even if you run the uninstalled version. > > What is the "uninstalled version"? To me, it seems impossible to run > a program that's not installed on your computer. Is this a common > term when working with projects under development, in which you might > have one version "installed" and other versions in various > directories, that aren't "installed"? F-Spot can be run after you have done a "make all", by changing directory to src, and then give the command "./f-spot --uninstalled" But it will need some library files which it tries to find from the installation directory, so you will have to have done at least one "make install" My target directory's lib files are the following: > > ls /opt/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/ > FlickrNet.dll libfspoteog.so libfspotjpegtran.so.0 libgphoto2-sharp.dll > f-spot.exe libfspoteog.so.0 libfspotjpegtran.so.0.0.0 libgphoto2-sharp.dll.config > f-spot.exe.config libfspoteog.so.0.0.0 libfspot.la SemWeb.dll > libfspot.a libfspotjpegtran.a libfspot.so > libfspoteog.a libfspotjpegtran.la libfspot.so.0 > libfspoteog.la libfspotjpegtran.so libfspot.so.0.0.0 Can you perhaps send the console commands and output when you try and run the CVS version? (including how you start f-spot) /Bengt From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 13:12:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E953B01E3 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:12:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23016-08 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2553B01AA for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:12:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so795377nfc for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:11:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=jmJsArqQVOiw7tOxqiMXvx0gwSNK42zV+zrK/jnf39AUtWZdTMvDsGoDqhZZXYC9RQphNlZ+iPRtUJ8WZUyJ66FiB8HiuD766aExGbt5I6ub/JCTLSXUYjS6Rg5oUp5D0xb0GHDRMCF9+d66cy3gikrM1pNcEhTW5ELUZEQVZzU= Received: by 10.48.213.1 with SMTP id l1mr4142637nfg; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:11:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C0A840.access.telenet.be ( [84.192.168.64]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10sm5595991nfb.2006.06.11.10.11.40; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:11:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:11:39 +0200 Message-Id: <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.263 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.337, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.263 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 17:12:24 -0000 Hi Janne, On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 14:31 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs are > unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, F-Spot > constantly fights against me. > > So I have a bunch of photos on my computer. They are NOT in my > home-folder, but rather in /multimedia/pics. This way they are > accessible to my wife as well. And in that directory, they are also > divided among different folders, named after the subject. This way I can > browse the pictures in filemanager as well, should the need arise. > Sounds simple enough? Yes it does. But why is this setup so difficult > for F-Spot to handle? > > I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the > import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, select > "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to photos-folder", > and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. After > the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is it? > Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem > (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to select > "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to find > out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me where > those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are located > in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the date > of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be > in /multimedia/pics/ > > I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the Photos-folder. > Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same set > of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I edit any > of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my > home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. > > I just re-tried the import, after I deleted the photos-folder from my > home. And again it copied the files to my home. I then deleted the > photos-folder again, and the thumbnails were still visible in F-Spot, > but full-size photos were not. > > Why can't I do something as simple as this: Tell F-spot to import photos > from certain folder and NOT copy the files ANYWHERE. Just import the > photos, but leave the actual files where they are! > > IIRC I ONCE managed to make F-spot really use the /multimedia/pics, but > even then, if I imported pics from my camera, F-Spot always imported > them to /home/photos. So my pictures were split among two locations, > when I really want to have all my pics in one location. > > Why is this so hard? It feels like that F-Spot has certain way of > working, and it wont budge from that way. And I would have to adjust my > way of working to suit F-Spot. And we are not talking about anything > fundamental here, we are talking about the location where the pictures > are stored! Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: 1. count to ten, think of the possibility that you might have bumped into a bug 2. ask someone on irc, or on the mailing list to see if they could reproduce the behaviour 3. file a bug in bugzilla.gnome.org so people could take care of it I think that all this negative energy isn't going to get you anywhere. Regards, Thomas From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 16:19:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751723B0159 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:19:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32157-09 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:19:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930A63B00CA for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:19:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so805830nfe for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:18:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=d8C1FvMddnGIX2+QzDT+AsXHSpw4RGo8zrMlVNqTE4lLcGwFNq6RS3tx6HYRWazxU5bj6kGIFubTj+/wRfVnG/EVzQyd5CFCjdTDK8vpBHa1a0ABmt/ICj237PdEomTrpGS8nlfKlvc4TiBAncyT6PSP2cHh4FlZZ4JDjRpVT7U= Received: by 10.48.213.11 with SMTP id l11mr4233187nfg; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C0A840.access.telenet.be ( [84.192.168.64]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x1sm5709776nfb.2006.06.11.12.49.38; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:49:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 21:49:37 +0200 Message-Id: <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.323 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.277, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.323 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:19:49 -0000 Hi Janne, On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 19:11 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long > > rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: > > I apologize for my negativity. I really do. I had just spent quite a bit > of time importing pictures, only to find out that I had bunch of photos > in place where I did not want them. So I was quite pissed off when I > wrote my initial message. > I understand you were pissed off, but admit you were a bit hard ;-) > > 2. ask someone on irc, or on the mailing list to see if they could > > reproduce the behaviour > > Well, I thought that I just described my problem. > Yeah, you _kind of_ described your problem, but you left out a lot of details: * what version of f-spot are you running? * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your miserable state :-p What I suggest you do is the following: * remove the f-spot sqlite db, it's ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db * re-start f-spot, perform the import again but uncheck the "copy" checkbox _before_ you select a folder to import from * open the f-spot database by executing $sqlite ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db * perform a select * from photos go and look at the paths that appear in the output: do they point to your original directory or to the local ~/Photos dir? Regards, Thomas From m487396@rocketmail.com Sun Jun 11 16:24:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB4E3B0422 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:24:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32591-08 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.83]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA3033B026B for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:24:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23382 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jun 2006 20:23:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rocketmail.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZtGEKjbe8SmlcRnL6JNb8V7bOO7XXZ2d1xVZDU1DEL+EzwT1v85Mi/nMmPonGIL+rfPO7KjBC9fPSOTIeThLPgpBcVYIjRmVoLjnlJ26QUCuI7ftsF7QuruflaRPhHAz/dYYGsnljFS7BBMjNKJHzMuBoW51Nd/qBbRWHUKFydE= ; Message-ID: <20060611202351.23380.qmail@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [211.31.121.246] by web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 06:23:51 EST Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 06:23:51 +1000 (EST) From: "Mark A. Bell" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.487 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.088, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.487 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:24:41 -0000 Hi Janne, I don't know enough about f-spot to configure it correctly for you, but it sounds like gthumb would do the kind of things you want. gthumb http://gthumb.sourceforge.net/features.html regards, - mark sydney, australia http://www.flickr.com/photos/m487396 Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 14:31 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs > are > > unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, > F-Spot > > constantly fights against me. > > > > So I have a bunch of photos on my computer. They are NOT in my > > home-folder, but rather in /multimedia/pics. This way they are > > accessible to my wife as well. And in that directory, they are also > > divided among different folders, named after the subject. This way > I can > > browse the pictures in filemanager as well, should the need arise. > > Sounds simple enough? Yes it does. But why is this setup so > difficult > > for F-Spot to handle? > > > > I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the > > import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, > select > > "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to > photos-folder", > > and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. > After > > the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is > it? > > Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem > > (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to > select > > "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to > find > > out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me > where > > those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are > located > > in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the > date > > of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be > > in /multimedia/pics/ > > > > I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the > Photos-folder. > > Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same > set > > of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I > edit any > > of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my > > home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. > > > > I just re-tried the import, after I deleted the photos-folder from > my > > home. And again it copied the files to my home. I then deleted the > > photos-folder again, and the thumbnails were still visible in > F-Spot, > > but full-size photos were not. > > > > Why can't I do something as simple as this: Tell F-spot to import > photos > > from certain folder and NOT copy the files ANYWHERE. Just import > the > > photos, but leave the actual files where they are! > > > > IIRC I ONCE managed to make F-spot really use the /multimedia/pics, > but > > even then, if I imported pics from my camera, F-Spot always > imported > > them to /home/photos. So my pictures were split among two > locations, > > when I really want to have all my pics in one location. > > > > Why is this so hard? It feels like that F-Spot has certain way of > > working, and it wont budge from that way. And I would have to > adjust my > > way of working to suit F-Spot. And we are not talking about > anything > > fundamental here, we are talking about the location where the > pictures > > are stored! Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com From suser.koolinus@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 19:18:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D6B3B0346 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07664-10 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA343B01CC for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:18:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id s2so2120990uge for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:18:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=NZ0TIAm0g+h+U15yh1RHHAeDqDs08Kt85AgWgdvYYkHW2mbbHdcPFhJ8G8A0SqngkqX09zpA20u0TdVmVwaNXYPP9+6Pz745RzlGi7OrM7rM+C4tUm6O+PaeGh8aYIO7mBViLeu2wNsnCFo80ZMUo88F2wlXeaVU1YyXASb9H4U= Received: by 10.67.101.10 with SMTP id d10mr4592676ugm; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:08:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.46.2? ( [151.49.12.117]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q40sm4531169ugc.2006.06.11.16.08.01; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:08:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:08:27 +0200 Message-Id: <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.243 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.201, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.243 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 23:18:58 -0000 Il giorno dom, 11/06/2006 alle 21.49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen ha scritto: > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > Well, I thought that I just described my problem. > Yeah, you _kind of_ described your problem, but you left out a lot of > details: > > * what version of f-spot are you running? > * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? > * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your > miserable state :-p Hi Thomas, the "importing" behaviour described by Janne in his mail has always occurred to me too. I have my images in /mnt/fat32partition/images. Importing them in F-Spot has always caused the creation of a /home/user/Photos directory exactly the *same* size of /mnt/fat32part/images before said and with an internal structure as: /home/user/Photos/year/month/day/filename.jpg This has happened to me at least with Ubuntu 5.10, Ubuntu 6.06, Mandriva 2006, SUSE 10.0 and Fedora Core 5, rightafter importing images in F-Spot at it's first launch. So it gotta be a pretty common problem. I didn't find Janne's mail offensive or anything than pissed off. Now we should understand if he's signaled a bug or a wanted feature ;-) -- nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito http://koolinus.wordpress.com http://www.koolinus.net "If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy." Linux Registered User #293182 From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 11 20:27:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692BA3B00B7 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:27:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10384-06 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:27:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (1-1-3-2a.ehn.lk.bostream.se [82.183.137.113]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04BB3B00ED for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:27:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by denton.thuree.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDACA3AA9B for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 02:00:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 194.237.142.5 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bengt) by denton.thuree.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:00:51 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <17672.194.237.142.5.1150070451.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> In-Reply-To: <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:00:51 +0900 (JST) From: "Bengt Thuree" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-thuree-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-thuree-MailScanner-From: bengt@thuree.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 00:27:31 -0000 On Må, 2006-06-12, 08:08, nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito skrev: > Il giorno dom, 11/06/2006 alle 21.49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen ha > scritto: > >> On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: >> > Well, I thought that I just described my problem. > >> Yeah, you _kind of_ described your problem, but you left out a lot of >> details: >> >> * what version of f-spot are you running? >> * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? >> * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your >> miserable state :-p > > > Hi Thomas, > the "importing" behaviour described by Janne in his mail has always > occurred to me too. > > I have my images in /mnt/fat32partition/images. > > Importing them in F-Spot has always caused the creation of > a /home/user/Photos directory exactly the *same* size > of /mnt/fat32part/images before said and with an internal structure > as: /home/user/Photos/year/month/day/filename.jpg That is what copy usually does :) And since we are talking about photos, it is way better to be safe than sorry. But Larry is working on changing the import handling. > > I didn't find Janne's mail offensive or anything than pissed off. Now we > should understand if he's signaled a bug or a wanted feature ;-) To be honest, I agree with Thomas in this one. The mail did come out a bit harsh perhaps. Thomas had some nice suggestions as well. But totally agreeing with the frustration of Janne and others though. Tried to reply yesterday with a number of bugs that are related to this issue, but the mail seems not to have arrived to f-spot-list yet. So, here comes the bugs http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333503 (which is your problem) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337250 (specify Photos place) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318519 (lots of complaints) etc.... Anyway, nothing bad from it, and it did also highlight the fact that F-Spot is popular and becoming more so. With this comes more people using it, and a lot more different ways. F-Spot needs to handle this one way or another. /Bengt From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Mon Jun 12 01:04:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D953B00A7 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:04:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19740-03 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:04:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C721B3B000D for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:03:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h2so829310nfe for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:03:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=XZwv6v70/NHOz01EwFUE6ornrJrDXriY6+7SkIj7j5oCDgDFiLQqN7lDNmOMISDVXbdAlM+QVaHoFSG91noL+dpavcs41jRrQzfms+EzLtj2hDA0xNkUP9uADc3OgEI1QUpcCGpVmkzOzunb+mW4lLjdFiDOZvHy3wdWJY9QvFU= Received: by 10.49.92.15 with SMTP id u15mr4521889nfl; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:03:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C0A840.access.telenet.be ( [84.192.168.64]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l21sm4214223nfc.2006.06.11.22.03.10; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:03:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: "nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito" In-Reply-To: <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:03:09 +0200 Message-Id: <1150088589.6432.4.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.364 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.236, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.364 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 05:04:03 -0000 Hi all, On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 01:08 +0200, nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito wrote: > Hi Thomas, > the "importing" behaviour described by Janne in his mail has always > occurred to me too. > > I have my images in /mnt/fat32partition/images. > > Importing them in F-Spot has always caused the creation of > a /home/user/Photos directory exactly the *same* size > of /mnt/fat32part/images before said and with an internal structure > as: /home/user/Photos/year/month/day/filename.jpg > What I think has happened to both of you is the following. When you open the import dialog and select a directory before you uncheck the "copy" button, I think - but I might be wrong, I would have to check - that f-spot copies the photos to the Photos directory. If you then uncheck the button and perform the actual import, everything is imported correctly, but the Photos directory is not cleaned up accordingly. > This has happened to me at least with Ubuntu 5.10, Ubuntu 6.06, Mandriva > 2006, SUSE 10.0 and Fedora Core 5, rightafter importing images in F-Spot > at it's first launch. So it gotta be a pretty common problem. > If I'm not mistaken, there have been several fixes for this in CVS head, which are not in any released version yet. Larry, can you confirm this? Best Regards, Thomas From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 12 07:12:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB01A3B0061 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32130-01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:12:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.136]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F813B0078 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:12:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.185]) by fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5BCiZD7003471 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:44:36 +1000 Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5BCdNrY002229 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:39:25 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:39:27 +1000 Message-Id: <1150029567.5937.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:12:33 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 14:31 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs are > unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, F-Spot > constantly fights against me. Well, the version number is still far from 1.0.0 :) > > I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the > import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, select > "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to photos-folder", > and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. After > the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is it? > Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem > (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to select > "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to find > out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me where > those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are located > in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the date > of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be > in /multimedia/pics/ > > I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the Photos-folder. > Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same set > of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I edit any > of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my > home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. Do the following: 1) Click on PLUS or choose File -> Import 2) Unselect COPY to Photos 3) Choose location of the photos to be imported 4) Perform the import And yes, there are numerous bugs in Bugzilla on the import function. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333503 (which is your problem) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337250 (specify Photos place) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318519 (lots of complaints) Larry has mention he is rewriting it to fix most or all of the problems. And yes, there is also a patch in allowing you to specify your own Photos location. F-Spot is a desktop application, and as such it is not that easy to share everything around. It is one thing to share the actual photos, but F-Spot also have a database located in ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db where all the tags are stored for quick reference. And yes, there has been a number of bugs/mails about this as well. Please feel free to file bugs in BugZilla, since then the chance that they are fixed is that much higher :) /bengt From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 12 09:26:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3D53B00D4 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:26:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04111-04 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:26:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7513B0010 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:26:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5CDPCVK022421 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:25:12 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: James Carroll In-Reply-To: References: <1150020822.5937.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:25:12 +1000 Message-Id: <1150118713.5937.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:26:05 -0000 Hi James Try the following 1) checkout a new version of F-Spot 2) cd to the just checkout directory 3) autogen.sh --prefix=/home//unstable/f-spot 4) make all 5) make install 6) cd ~/unstable/f-spot/bin 7) ./f-spot if this do not work, perhaps you can try to remove everything on your computer related to F-Spot? apt-get remove f-spot updatedb locate f-spot, and remove everything, and then start from 1 again? /Bengt From janne.ojaniemi@nbl.fi Mon Jun 12 14:02:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070DB3B08DE for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:02:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21917-09 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.nblnetworks.fi (smtp2.nblnetworks.fi [217.30.182.231]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024783B0504 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 12:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (xdsl-176-84.nblnetworks.fi [217.30.176.84]) by smtp2.nblnetworks.fi (8.13.1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k5CGtEtI005527; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:55:14 +0300 From: Janne Ojaniemi To: Thomas Van Machelen In-Reply-To: <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:52:41 +0300 Message-Id: <1150131161.7085.6.camel@serenity> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:02:32 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 21:49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > Hi Janne, > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 19:11 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > > Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long > > > rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: > > > > I apologize for my negativity. I really do. I had just spent quite a bit > > of time importing pictures, only to find out that I had bunch of photos > > in place where I did not want them. So I was quite pissed off when I > > wrote my initial message. > > > > I understand you were pissed off, but admit you were a bit hard ;-) Yeah, I was :(... > * what version of f-spot are you running? 0.11.1 > * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? It's the one that is available for Ubuntu. 0.11.1-1ubuntu1 > * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your > miserable state :-p I had bunch of pics in /multimedia/pics. I used the import-tool in F-spot to import them to F-spot. I did not want those pics to be copied from their present location, so I unselect the "copy to Photos-fodler". The problem it seems was that I unselected the "copy to..." AFTER I had selected the folder to import. When I unchecked it before the folder-selection, all works like it should :) From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Mon Jun 12 14:24:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E481B3B010E for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:24:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24480-01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC003B011A for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:24:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so955622nfc for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:24:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=kzTYyWOWYfIRDqbJi4IFTF9LCkkNOSdUcXlzQuHyZ7wffcZSKzrQce/Bjx6C6jJ5NJoU+Bl9wpyO/uPgKrJaL38IfTMWNmHH0cl31v2ns4ytzXT7lt1CZR89YdMA527OnedouvizgHC3o1i1J+lT44H0rJ/su2B4d7WtEFFlzq4= Received: by 10.49.3.16 with SMTP id f16mr5126203nfi; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C0A840.access.telenet.be ( [84.192.168.64]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id b1sm5919141nfe.2006.06.12.11.24.08; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:24:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150131161.7085.6.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> <1150131161.7085.6.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:24:07 +0200 Message-Id: <1150136647.5262.0.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.395 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.205, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.395 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:24:45 -0000 On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 19:52 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 21:49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > Hi Janne, > > > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 19:11 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > > > Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long > > > > rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: > > > > > > I apologize for my negativity. I really do. I had just spent quite a bit > > > of time importing pictures, only to find out that I had bunch of photos > > > in place where I did not want them. So I was quite pissed off when I > > > wrote my initial message. > > > > > > > I understand you were pissed off, but admit you were a bit hard ;-) > > Yeah, I was :(... > > > * what version of f-spot are you running? > > 0.11.1 > > > * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? > > It's the one that is available for Ubuntu. 0.11.1-1ubuntu1 > > > * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your > > miserable state :-p > > I had bunch of pics in /multimedia/pics. I used the import-tool in > F-spot to import them to F-spot. I did not want those pics to be copied > from their present location, so I unselect the "copy to Photos-fodler". > The problem it seems was that I unselected the "copy to..." AFTER I had > selected the folder to import. When I unchecked it before the > folder-selection, all works like it should :) > Cool, and as Larry confirmed this is fixed in cvs head, everybody's happy. Nice :-) From lewing@novell.com Mon Jun 12 15:26:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94DE3B00AF for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:26:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27322-01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:26:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6848E3B0010 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:26:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21900 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2006 18:24:00 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jun 2006 18:24:00 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:32:12 -0500 Message-Id: <1150137133.3676.21.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:26:57 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 14:31 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs are > unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, F-Spot > constantly fights against me. > > So I have a bunch of photos on my computer. They are NOT in my > home-folder, but rather in /multimedia/pics. This way they are > accessible to my wife as well. And in that directory, they are also > divided among different folders, named after the subject. This way I can > browse the pictures in filemanager as well, should the need arise. > Sounds simple enough? Yes it does. But why is this setup so difficult > for F-Spot to handle? > > I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the > import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, select > "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to photos-folder", > and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. After > the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is it? > Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem > (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to select > "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to find > out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me where > those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are located > in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the date > of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be > in /multimedia/pics/ > > I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the Photos-folder. > Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same set > of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I edit any > of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my > home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. > > I just re-tried the import, after I deleted the photos-folder from my > home. And again it copied the files to my home. I then deleted the > photos-folder again, and the thumbnails were still visible in F-Spot, > but full-size photos were not. > > Why can't I do something as simple as this: Tell F-spot to import photos > from certain folder and NOT copy the files ANYWHERE. Just import the > photos, but leave the actual files where they are! > > IIRC I ONCE managed to make F-spot really use the /multimedia/pics, but > even then, if I imported pics from my camera, F-Spot always imported > them to /home/photos. So my pictures were split among two locations, > when I really want to have all my pics in one location. > > Why is this so hard? It feels like that F-Spot has certain way of > working, and it wont budge from that way. And I would have to adjust my > way of working to suit F-Spot. And we are not talking about anything > fundamental here, we are talking about the location where the pictures > are stored! > The copy thing is a bug it was fixed a few weeks ago in cvs. There had been a couple of unsuccessful attempts to fix it before that. Selecting the import directories when using f-spot to do the import is on the list of things that will probably go in but hasn't been done (completely) yet. There are patches that have been sent to this list in the last few days that start to address the issue. I'm sorry you have found using f-spot so frustrating, but I can't do much more to help than try to resolve the problems. --Larry From lewing@novell.com Mon Jun 12 15:33:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4463B0078 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:33:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27527-02 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90DEB3B00AF for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21907 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2006 18:31:56 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jun 2006 18:31:56 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Thomas Van Machelen In-Reply-To: <1150088589.6432.4.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> <1150088589.6432.4.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:40:08 -0500 Message-Id: <1150137608.3676.31.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:33:14 -0000 On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 07:03 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > Hi all, > > On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 01:08 +0200, nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito wrote: > > Hi Thomas, > > the "importing" behaviour described by Janne in his mail has always > > occurred to me too. > > > > I have my images in /mnt/fat32partition/images. > > > > Importing them in F-Spot has always caused the creation of > > a /home/user/Photos directory exactly the *same* size > > of /mnt/fat32part/images before said and with an internal structure > > as: /home/user/Photos/year/month/day/filename.jpg > > > > What I think has happened to both of you is the following. When you > open the import dialog and select a directory before you uncheck the > "copy" button, I think - but I might be wrong, I would have to check - > that f-spot copies the photos to the Photos directory. If you then > uncheck the button and perform the actual import, everything is imported > correctly, but the Photos directory is not cleaned up accordingly. > Right this is roughly the version of the bug that dapper shipped with iirc. The latest code fixes all this hoop jumping as well. > > This has happened to me at least with Ubuntu 5.10, Ubuntu 6.06, Mandriva > > 2006, SUSE 10.0 and Fedora Core 5, rightafter importing images in F-Spot > > at it's first launch. So it gotta be a pretty common problem. > > > > If I'm not mistaken, there have been several fixes for this in CVS head, > which are not in any released version yet. Larry, can you confirm this? > I can, and as I've said in this an other messages this is fixed in cvs trunk and stable. I'd happily release a new stable version today if I had any reason to believe the various distributions would ship it, but they are all currently frozen so the utility of doing that is questionable. --Larry From lewing@novell.com Mon Jun 12 15:54:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBB83B00E5 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:54:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28147-01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E733B0078 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21861 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2006 18:06:42 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jun 2006 18:06:42 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Thomas Van Machelen In-Reply-To: <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:14:49 -0500 Message-Id: <1150136089.3676.6.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:54:51 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 21:49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > Hi Janne, > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 19:11 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > > Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long > > > rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: > > > > I apologize for my negativity. I really do. I had just spent quite a bit > > of time importing pictures, only to find out that I had bunch of photos > > in place where I did not want them. So I was quite pissed off when I > > wrote my initial message. > > > > I understand you were pissed off, but admit you were a bit hard ;-) > > > > 2. ask someone on irc, or on the mailing list to see if they could > > > reproduce the behaviour > > > > Well, I thought that I just described my problem. > > > > Yeah, you _kind of_ described your problem, but you left out a lot of > details: > > * what version of f-spot are you running? > * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? > * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your > miserable state :-p > > What I suggest you do is the following: > * remove the f-spot sqlite db, it's ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db > * re-start f-spot, perform the import again but uncheck the "copy" > checkbox _before_ you select a folder to import from > * open the f-spot database by executing > $sqlite ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db > * perform a select * from photos go and look at the paths that appear in > the output: do they point to your original directory or to the local > ~/Photos dir? Just to be clear, this "copy check doesn't work bug" should be fixed in both head and stable for about two weeks. For those interested in having and f-spot that isn't quite so buggy as what is currently shipping in dapper and/or fc5 but who don't want to track the cutting edge use the fspot_0_1_branch in cvs. At lot of things have been fixed since 0.1.11. --Larry From stephane@delcroix.org Tue Jun 13 04:09:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339AB3B00C9 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15736-04 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:09:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4767B3B008F for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:09:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4157 invoked by uid 503); 13 Jun 2006 08:09:45 -0000 Received: from b7.ovh.net (HELO mail150.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.57) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2006 08:09:45 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2006 08:07:58 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2006 08:07:55 -0000 From: Stephane Delcroix To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 10:08:23 +0200 Message-Id: <1150186103.5901.15.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.181 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.275, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558] X-Spam-Score: -1.181 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Speeding up F-Spot X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:09:21 -0000 I'd just like to point your attention on two patches sleeping in bugzilla. Both are related to speed up f-spot and responsiveness. If you only have time to try and report on two patches in the following days, choose those ones !!! WorkerThread + Database threading, bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337724, patch http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=66967 : A hard name for a very good patch. Allow f-spot to write metadata in the background (thing about tagging, adjusting time, changing orientation, ...). You can even stop f-spot with some background action remaining. Next time you start, the process will continue. Thumbs up to Ruben! Progressive redraw, bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343856, patch http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=67011 : Precache images when browsing in Edit View or in FullScreen View. No more apparent redraw. Amazing! Thanks wjbaird! rgds, Stephane From gcgaf-f-spot-list@m.gmane.org Tue Jun 13 22:01:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C9D3B00D4 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:01:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13167-07 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4522C3B00C8 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FqKfq-0004If-7N for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:00:02 +0200 Received: from dsl-165-255-37.telkomadsl.co.za ([165.165.255.37]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:00:02 +0200 Received: from nmarais by dsl-165-255-37.telkomadsl.co.za with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:00:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Neilen Marais Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 03:34:29 +0200 Lines: 181 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dsl-165-255-37.telkomadsl.co.za User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Big Collections/Complex Meta-data/Is F-spot (going) to be for me? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:01:05 -0000 Hi I have a pretty big image database (about 12k photos) with fairly complex meta-data maintained in KPhotoAlbum. I've been eying F-spot for a while, since it has a very active community, looks pretty and seems quite nice to use. I also prefer GNOME apps all else being equal. KPhotoAlbum is not quite as smooth, but it's interface seems more "scalable" to me, while F-spot tries (and manages very well) to make easy stuff easy. I'm also quite excited by F-spot's ability to handle picture versions and RAW files. I don't think scalable and easy need to be mutually exclusive though. I'll list some features in KPhotoAlbum that I find makes it very useful for large/complex collections, and why they are useful. Perhaps I can convince the right people that it may be useful to implement something similar (if not identical) in F-Spot. These comments refer to F-Spot 0.1.11, as shipped with Ubuntu Dapper. I'll refer to KPhotoAlbum as KP from here on to save typing. Separate "Namespaces" ===================== F-spot seems to require the last level of a tag to be unique. Besides offending my personal sense of logical aesthetics, it also poses practical problems ;P In KP, each top-level tag is called a Category, and the tags within each Category are completely independent. In my KP database I have a "People" category for people visible in the photo, and a "Photographer" category for the person who took the picture. Of course People can also be Photographers, but usually not at the same time. Also the total number of photographers aren't the same as the total number of peoplo. It's also possible that unrelated tags can coincidentally have the same name. E.g. if you travel all over the world and meet people from all over the world, it's not unlikely that some placename in one country may be the same as someones name in another. In fact, identical placenames are quite common. Places.USA.Alabama.Greenville is not the same as Places.USA.California.Greenville (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cities#Most_common_city_names for more fun.) One can disambiguate by having Greenville_CA, but I already told you it's in California, damnit ;) Actually this is a problem in KP as well, since it's doesn't do any hierarchy within a category. It does have membership groups that does something similar, but that does not solve this problem. Membership Groups ----------------- I think F-Spot's hierarchical tags can fill the same need, but I'll describe them so its clear what I'm talking about. I'll use the Places category as an example. Say the location is "Friendly Bob's House" in Pinelands (the town), Western Cape (the state), South Africa. In KP I can make the location "South Africa" a membership group. Then I can assign all the states in South Africa (that I have in my DB anyway) to this group (e.g. Western Cape, Gauteng, etc.). Then I make Western Cape another membership group, and assign all the cities to it (e.g. Pinelands, Cape Town, etc.). I make Pinelands a membership group, and add "Friendly Bob's house" to it. Now I tag the picture with only "Friendly Bob's house". Because of the membership groups, KP knows the picture also belongs to "Pinelands", "Western Cape" and "South Africa", and will be found by searches on any of those 4 locations. Of course, Locations.South Africa.Western Cape.Pinelands would do just as well. It will also be more explicit (good), and if F-Spot supported it, would be separate from Locations.South Africa.Kwazulu Natal.Pinelands (which also exists!) Default "And" searching ======================= >From reading the list it seems that F-Spot will get more searching options soon, but IMHO if you can have only one choice, "and" would be better than "or". I hope that when the more featureful searching comes, there will be an easy way to make the default "and". Restrict Tags when Searching ============================ This kind of goes together with the default "and" searching. KP's main interface shows you a list of top level tags, along with how many entries each has. e.g. Locations - 10 People - 6 Then you select People -> "Friendly Bob" You can then look at all the pictures containing Bob, or keep selecting search tags. However, all the tags that never occur with Bob are removed, e.g. Locations - 4 People - 3 I.o.w. you see only the Locations that Bob's been photographed at and only the people that have been photographed with Bob. Now select Locations -> "Friendly Bob's House", and look at the pictures of Bob at his house, or continue: Locations (greyed out, since there are no others) People - 2 Then you could choose to look at pictures of Bob with his wife, or Bob with his son. I like this feature for two reasons. 1) If you're and-searching, there's no point in seeing the tags that will result in no pictures being found. 2) Its nice to see, for instance, how many people you have photographed at a certain location. Scalable Tag Selection ====================== It's hard to compare KP directly to F-Spot here, since the interface paradigms are quite different, so I'll just sketch my problem. In KP I have 9 Categories (i.e. top level tags), and some of them have many subtags. E.g. Events - 143 Keywords - 21 Locations - 237 Persons - 203 Photographer - 33 I've only had a camera for about two years, but found I like both photography and detailed tagging. I'm sure these numbers will have grown considerably in 10 years time! I will always have at least one tag from each of the 5 categories I listed here attached to every picture, so it is critical that tags can be selected from a large selection easily. KP makes the default way of finding a tag incremental search, and also sorts tags in order of last use by default. It also manages each category completely separately which means the 100's of "Persons" tags don't make it hard to pick a tag from the "Keywords" category. While I haven't dealt with that many tags in F-Spot, my feeling is the tag toolbar/tree on the left of F-Spot will be fairly well suited to dealing with many tags. Other places, where there are flat lists with all tag hierarchies exploded, will probably be unpleasant to use. What I'd need to switch ======================= Like you care ;P Anyway, my needs in order of priority are 1) "Fully qualified" tag uniqueness (i.e. People.A != Places.A) 2) "And" searching 3) Tag Restrictions while and-searching 4) Improved UI for selecting from large numbers of tags 1) is completely critical, since I can't losslesly move my current data into F-Spot without it. 2) is pretty important. 3) and 4) would be nice to have, but not that important. If other people think it's a good idea, should I make feature requests on the F-spot bugzilla, or how should I go ahead? Thanks for listening Neilen -- you know its kind of tragic we live in the new world but we've lost the magic -- Battery 9 (www.battery9.co.za) From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 16 05:48:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633443B000B for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 05:48:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24488-02 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 05:48:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B126D3B0011 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 05:48:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1403732uge for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.17.1 with SMTP id 1mr940549huq; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:37:44 +0200 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Importing photos with tags MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:48:45 -0000 I have several hundered photos that were tagged in a Windows program (BrilliantPhoto). I can extract the tags with a script and create an XML file or SQL dump for the tags. How can I then import that into the F-spot database? Any documentation on the F-spot database would be helpful. Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://gmail-com.com From stephane@delcroix.org Fri Jun 16 10:22:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D667D3B0012 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:22:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31319-04 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:22:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09E23B0007 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:22:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19469 invoked by uid 503); 16 Jun 2006 14:23:03 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail56.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2006 14:23:02 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2006 14:20:45 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2006 14:20:42 -0000 Subject: plugin support for F-Spot From: Stephane Delcroix To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 16:20:57 +0200 Message-Id: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.500004/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.178 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.272, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558] X-Spam-Score: -1.178 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:22:25 -0000 Hi list, I've spend some time lately to develop a plugin facility for F-Spot. So far, I've a virtual plugin class, some methods to load plugins, and a testplugin. Thanks to Thomas and his solution to bug #344534, I've also a way to compile plugins without the F-Spot sources. The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my guess), but some people need this. I'll be happy to see any comments, remarks, requirements... regards, Stephane From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Fri Jun 16 21:25:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCE03B0204 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:25:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30558-07 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:25:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE40D3B01CC for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:25:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1829050uge for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.10 with SMTP id d10mr3246797ugm; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.27.18 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606161816l8e942a7w9c1623407f6fd397@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 05:16:36 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: plugin support for F-Spot In-Reply-To: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.909 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.133, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.909 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 01:25:33 -0000 On 6/16/06, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as > many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to > my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my > guess), but some people need this. Plug-in architecture is a very, very useful thing :) But in your approach it's not limited to exporting functions, right? Alexandre From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 16 21:34:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128F03B0208 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:34:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30551-08 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:34:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (1-1-3-2a.ehn.lk.bostream.se [82.183.137.113]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FC33B0234 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:34:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by denton.thuree.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E173AA93 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 03:08:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 194.237.142.10 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bengt) by denton.thuree.com with HTTP; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:08:46 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <54022.194.237.142.10.1150506526.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> In-Reply-To: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> References: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:08:46 +0900 (JST) Subject: Re: plugin support for F-Spot From: "Bengt Thuree" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-thuree-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-thuree-MailScanner-From: bengt@thuree.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 01:34:22 -0000 On Fr, 2006-06-16, 23:20, Stephane Delcroix skrev: > Hi list, > > I've spend some time lately to develop a plugin facility for F-Spot. So > far, I've a virtual plugin class, some methods to load plugins, and a > testplugin. Thanks to Thomas and his solution to bug #344534, I've also > a way to compile plugins without the F-Spot sources. > > The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as > many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to > my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my > guess), but some people need this. > > I'll be happy to see any comments, remarks, requirements... Cool, this will come in very handy I think. Also another plugin area would be to import old data. I can see a lot of users are having existing data in another format, and they would like to import it to F-Spot. F-Spot will probably handle the main import areas in core, but Mr XXX Super Duper Photo Software's format. Have you raised an enhancement bug so we kan track this one? /Bengt From bengt@thuree.com Sat Jun 17 04:47:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7872D3B02F8 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 04:47:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14722-04 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 04:47:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail27.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail27.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.168]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC973B010F for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 04:47:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail27.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5H8jqUY013434; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:45:53 +1000 Subject: Re: Importing photos with tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:45:51 +1000 Message-Id: <1150533952.6150.8.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.526 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.074, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.526 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 08:47:13 -0000 > > Thanks, I'll look into that. I'm really a novice, what I can do is > extract the IPTC data that the tags are currently in with PHP and then > produce a text file (be it XML or SQL) to work with. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > Actually, have a look at the JPG file first. If the tags are stored in IPTC as well as in XMP format, you should be able to use the patch I wrote to let F-Spot read XMP data. IViewMedia Pro, were only supposed to store in IPTC as far as I understood, but they also stored the tags in XMP format. Also, I think that F-Spot has prepared to deal with IPTC tags as well. Have a look and see in IptcFile.cs, and see if you can create a new patch based on the XMP importer? Anyway, gthumb stores its tags in an xml file per photo, so you can take a look at that patch. Good Luck /Bengt From dotancohen@gmail.com Sat Jun 17 12:23:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDE23B000D for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26967-02 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0C53B00D5 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:23:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2011270uge for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:22:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.47.9 with SMTP id u9mr1409565huu; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 19:21:59 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Import/ Export of tags MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 16:23:20 -0000 As I'm trying to decide which photo organiser to use (between DigiKam, F-spot, and KPhotoAlbum) I would really appreciate the ability to move photos from one program to the other and to keep my tags intact. A user on the Digikam mailing list had mentioned that he would like to tag his photos 'in the field' on his laptop and to import them into the program when he gets home. I think that a kipi Import/ Export feature would solve both our problems. It would create an XML file similar to this: People*Ester People*Studies*Eli People*Studies*Anna Place*Haifa People*Ester People*Dotan People*Army*Jacob Place*Jerusalem This can easily be imported by any application, and it provides for hierarchical tags. (levels seperated by asteriks) What does the F-spot community think of this? Would you like to be able to work on the tags on the go and to import them later? And to easily move from application to application? This would also provide a secure way to back up the current sqlite database in an accessable manner. (any text editor could open it) Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com 332 From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 18 06:32:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3623B0967 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:32:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18535-06 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.136]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B8E3B071B for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail26.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail26.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.167]) by fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5GLVAwQ011181 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 07:31:10 +1000 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail26.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5GLU5TO023274; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 07:30:05 +1000 Subject: Re: Importing photos with tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:29:56 +1000 Message-Id: <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.528 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.072, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.528 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:32:28 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 11:37 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I have several hundered photos that were tagged in a Windows program > (BrilliantPhoto). I can extract the tags with a script and create an > XML file or SQL dump for the tags. How can I then import that into the > F-spot database? Any documentation on the F-spot database would be > helpful. > > Thanks in advance. > Hi there are two patches in bugzilla that enable importing existing GThumb metadata, and iView Media Pro meta data (in fact also existing F-Spot meta data). http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322366 - GThumb tags http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 - F-Spot tags Perhaps you can write a small patch your self? And create a bug in bugzilla and attach it to :) /Bengt From jordan.d.miller@gmail.com Sun Jun 18 07:11:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6DE33B09F5 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:11:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20389-08 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F023B0939 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:11:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2178963uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.8 with SMTP id d8mr4041428ugm; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.32.4 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:10:27 -0500 From: "Jordan Miller" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: F-spot user forum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8200_13353278.1150629027803" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.055 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_00_10=0.795, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: 0.055 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:14 -0000 ------=_Part_8200_13353278.1150629027803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot Project page if there isn't one already. I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum structure. Thoughts, Jordan ------=_Part_8200_13353278.1150629027803 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot Project page if there isn't one already.

I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum structure.

Thoughts,

Jordan
------=_Part_8200_13353278.1150629027803-- From drberg1000@gmail.com Sun Jun 18 11:11:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029813B0C2B for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32093-09 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B203B0C12 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1035507pyd for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.103.12 with SMTP id f12mr7129453pym; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.82.13 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:03:41 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: "Jordan Miller" Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.383 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.217, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.383 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:11:11 -0000 On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > Project page if there isn't one already. I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as familiar with the programming tools. --Dave > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > structure. > > Thoughts, > > Jordan > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > From ken@vandine.org Sun Jun 18 14:20:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931943B00B2 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:20:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07107-02 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239F63B000A for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.107] (cpe-071-065-240-185.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.240.185]) by ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5IHXuDe018625; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:33:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: F-spot user forum From: Ken VanDine To: David Berg In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:33:52 -0400 Message-Id: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.236 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.364, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.236 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:20:15 -0000 Actually, f-spot.org is a wiki. MediaWiki to be precise. I know MW has support for a forum like commenting system. Not sure what folks thing about using that. --Ken On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 10:03 -0500, David Berg wrote: > On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > > Project page if there isn't one already. > > I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow > documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as > familiar with the programming tools. > > --Dave > > > > > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > > structure. > > > > Thoughts, > > > > Jordan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 18 18:54:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD953B0071 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:54:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12735-04 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:54:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.193]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6591D3B00AF for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5IMrQQY020575 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:53:27 +1000 Subject: Re: F-spot user forum From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:53:26 +1000 Message-Id: <1150671206.5383.3.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.529 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.071, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.529 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:54:57 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 10:03 -0500, David Berg wrote: > On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > > Project page if there isn't one already. > > I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow > documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as > familiar with the programming tools. f-spot.org is a wiki.... > > --Dave > > > > > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > > structure. > > > > Thoughts, > > > > Jordan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Sun Jun 18 19:52:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAAD23B0308 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:52:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15600-10 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:52:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC7C3B0E41 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:50:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2307846uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.10 with SMTP id d10mr1288767ugm; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.27.18 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606181649t6dc94c14s1c97d0c9d48b301a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:49:16 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.005 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.037, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.005 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:52:21 -0000 On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > structure. Why would you choose forum over existing wiki for storing ideas? Alexandre From gcgaf-f-spot-list@m.gmane.org Sun Jun 18 20:07:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADEC43B0223 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:07:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16137-07 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10243B0182 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:07:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Fs7GI-0003iB-2J for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:05:03 +0200 Received: from p54a1afb2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.161.175.178]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:05:02 +0200 Received: from colin by p54a1afb2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:05:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Colin Marquardt Subject: Re: F-spot user forum Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:59:33 +0200 Organization: I'd rather call it chaos. Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54a1afb2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de Mail-Copies-To: never X-Draft-From: ("gmane.comp.gnome.apps.f-spot" 805) X-message-flag: Please don't add me to your address book if you are using Outlook. Thanks, Colin. X-Now-Playing: Orphaned Land / Sahara -- [05] Seasons Unite X-Jabber-UID: cmarqu (see http://www.jabber.org) X-Home-Page: http://www.marquardt-home.de X-GnuPG-Key: gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.us.pgp.net --recv-keys 5359F413 X-Fingerprint: 6D9B 01B4 F8B9 500F 3056 D74F D27F EBF5 5359 F413 Cancel-Lock: sha1:K6/SELyPp8F6RwGWPi+X9Qrpu/k= Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.577 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.024, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.577 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:07:13 -0000 "Jordan Miller" writes: > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > Project page if there isn't one already. > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > structure. If you think more about searching and reading, how's this?: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.f-spot/1578 Cheers, Colin From drberg1000@gmail.com Sun Jun 18 22:52:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929363B03A9 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21279-10 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:52:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B2F3B0210 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:52:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1125529pyd for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.127.15 with SMTP id e15mr7784197pyn; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.82.13 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:51:02 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: "Ken VanDine" Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.393 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.207, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.393 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:52:06 -0000 On 6/18/06, Ken VanDine wrote: > Actually, f-spot.org is a wiki. MediaWiki to be precise. I know MW has > support for a forum like commenting system. Not sure what folks thing > about using that. Looking closer at the website I do see that it says MediaWiki. Though there doesn't seem to be any way to create an account. The "Create an Account or Log In" link doesn't allow for account creation. I guess I'm also not used to sites where information can only be accessed through searching for it or using a direct link. Perhaps a mechanism to browse the wiki would be useful. Perhaps I'm missing something when navigating the website but by looking at the main pages and a few of the ones they link to I don't see anything that would indicate there is more to the site than what I can see by browsing. --Dave > --Ken > > > On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 10:03 -0500, David Berg wrote: > > On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > > > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > > > Project page if there isn't one already. > > > > I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow > > documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as > > familiar with the programming tools. > > > > --Dave > > > > > > > > > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > > > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > > > structure. > > > > > > Thoughts, > > > > > > Jordan > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > F-spot-list mailing list > > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > From dotancohen@gmail.com Mon Jun 19 00:39:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400D23B0D22 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:39:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24632-05 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:39:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D353B0B1B for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:39:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2369453uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.33.17 with SMTP id g17mr1774973hug; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:38:39 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.408 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.366, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.408 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 04:39:53 -0000 I would be willing to run an f-spot FAQ site if someone would help me verify the correctness of the answers. Anybody who is interested can email me off list. My last wiki project turned into a hammer-the-spammer chase. If anybody has any questions with answers for a FAQ, then email them to me. I'll start compiling them and put them on a website. I haven't yet registered a name, but as soon as I see interest in the site from the list members I'll register one and get it started. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Mon Jun 19 01:42:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11923B0D4C for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:42:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26495-08 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:41:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15E43B0D43 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2393587uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.100.17 with SMTP id c17mr3950298ugm; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.27.18 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:41:16 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.788 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.812, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.788 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:42:00 -0000 On 6/19/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I would be willing to run an f-spot FAQ site if someone would help me > verify the correctness of the answers. Anybody who is interested can > email me off list. > > My last wiki project turned into a hammer-the-spammer chase. If > anybody has any questions with answers for a FAQ, then email them to > me. I'll start compiling them and put them on a website. I haven't yet > registered a name, but as soon as I see interest in the site from the > list members I'll register one and get it started. Why on Earth? We can simply grant you commit access to wiki. Alexandre From dotancohen@gmail.com Mon Jun 19 02:11:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93A63B02CF for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27360-08 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:11:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902943B00F5 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:11:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2407385uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.45.13 with SMTP id s13mr1846834hus; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:10:05 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.08 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.520, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.08 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 06:11:09 -0000 On 19/06/06, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > > Why on Earth? > > We can simply grant you commit access to wiki. > > Alexandre Have you seen what fedorafaq.org has done for Fedora? It's all the same information that is available in Fedora's wiki, but in a Q/A format on a single page. Also, and this may sound rediculous but it's true, having both the wiki and a seperate FAQ site is two sites supporting f-spot, rather than one. Even if they have mostly the same information. That's important for people googling solutions or considering a switch to fspot. I, for one, have reservations about switching to a product with very little in the way of online documentation. This will add to the amount of online documentation resources available to the community. I don't want to replace the wiki, rather to make a seperate source of information that is more concice and easier to digest. Dotan Cohen From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 19 05:06:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9093B0014 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01595-07 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:06:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fallbackmx02.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.72]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611453B0004 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:06:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail30.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail30.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.193]) by fallbackmx02.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5HLg71e010142 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:42:08 +1000 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail30.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5HLaHle030266; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:36:18 +1000 Subject: Re: Import/ Export of tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:36:16 +1000 Message-Id: <1150580177.6150.24.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.53 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.070, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.53 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:06:53 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-17 at 19:21 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > As I'm trying to decide which photo organiser to use (between DigiKam, > F-spot, and KPhotoAlbum) I would really appreciate the ability to move > photos from one program to the other and to keep my tags intact. A > user on the Digikam mailing list had mentioned that he would like to > tag his photos 'in the field' on his laptop and to import them into > the program when he gets home. I think that a kipi Import/ Export > feature would solve both our problems. It would create an XML file > similar to this: > > > People*Ester > People*Studies*Eli > People*Studies*Anna > Place*Haifa > > > > People*Ester > People*Dotan > People*Army*Jacob > Place*Jerusalem > Where should this file be. Same place as the photo? or other place? One file per photo, same as GThumb does it, or one file for all photos? Could be great to have it implemented with the new Plugin feature though :) So, with this way, you are not allowed to use a "*" as a character in any of your tags I take it? > > This can easily be imported by any application, and it provides for > hierarchical tags. (levels seperated by asteriks) > > What does the F-spot community think of this? Would you like to be > able to work on the tags on the go and to import them later? And to > easily move from application to application? This would also provide a > secure way to back up the current sqlite database in an accessable > manner. (any text editor could open it) In my humble opinion there is only one place to definitely store the tags to ensure that they follow the picture and that the tags are readable by any application. That would be embedded inside the photo in a standard way. Like EXIF/XMP. Then you do not need to worry about the tag file dissapears or (in your case) the photo location changes. Not to mention worry about what happends over the years, since EXIF/XMP follows the standard, then that should be as future proof we can get. This is one of the main reason I choose to go with F-Spot, since the other applications you mentioned do not store the tags embedded inside the photo (yet). Me, it is not always I travel with a laptop, but I have a portable harddisk which I store the photos on. If you want to tag photos on the field on your laptop, why not simply tag them directly in F-Spot in that case? Regarding backing up the SQlite database by storing the tags in an XML file, I do not think so. The SQlite database contains already more information than only the tags, and this will likely just increase. The main place for the tags to be backed up, would be that they are backed up together with the photo since the tags are stored embedded inside the photo also. As I mentioned above. This would be a great feature for the new plugin method some are working on. My humble AUD 0.02 cent /Bengt From mvermaat@cs.vu.nl Mon Jun 19 07:00:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A507A3B0091 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:00:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05478-01 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:00:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069583B008F for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:00:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from olympiaplein.xs4all.nl (olympiaplein.xs4all.nl [80.126.168.64]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5JAxGsm088831 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:59:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mvermaat@cs.vu.nl) Subject: Re: F-spot user forum From: Martijn Vermaat To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:59:27 +0200 Message-Id: <1150714768.5522.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.581 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.018, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.581 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 11:00:20 -0000 Op ma, 19-06-2006 te 09:10 +0300, schreef Dotan Cohen: > Also, and this may sound rediculous but it's true, having both the > wiki and a seperate FAQ site is two sites supporting f-spot, rather > than one. Even if they have mostly the same information. That's > important for people googling solutions or considering a switch to > fspot. I, for one, have reservations about switching to a product with > very little in the way of online documentation. This will add to the > amount of online documentation resources available to the community. While I appreciate your enthousiasm, you should be carefull with this. As an example, in the Ubuntu community I see more and more problems originating from 'third-party' documentation. Sometimes it's someone's ego, sometimes they just don't know how to contribute to the official sources, but documentation scattered around the web is a problem for a number of reasons: * Unfortunately, a lot of howto's and tutorials are of questionable quality and advocate bad practice solutions. There's no way for the project to control this. * Maintainability is a problem. New versions of the software require updated documentation. * Almost never are these howto's and tutorials available in more than one language. The official documentation for Ubuntu gets translated by the translation teams. F-Spot has not translated its homepage I think, but it could in the future. * Last but not least, duplicate efforts are often a waste of time, especially when the official source for documentation could have been improved and/or the alternative source is harder to find. Some alternative sources of documentation don't suffer from most or all of these problems, but I know that all these problems are serious for the Ubuntu community. I don't think other projects are different. > I don't want to replace the wiki, rather to make a seperate source of > information that is more concice and easier to digest. Why not add some sort of FAQ page to the wiki in the form you envision? If people really need it, I think you would certainly be allowed to work on that. -- Martijn Vermaat mvermaat@cs.vu.nl http://www.cs.vu.nl/~mvermaat/ From dkoeb@ist.tugraz.at Mon Jun 19 16:13:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134363B0217 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:13:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30271-07 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:12:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chicago097.thex.at (chicago097.thex.at [217.172.179.97]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CADB13B0D15 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leia.peony.at ([192.168.3.19]) by chicago097.thex.at (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id k5JKBegx001484 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:11:42 +0200 Received: from [192.168.5.108] (chello080109204215.2.sc-graz.chello.at [80.109.204.215]) (authenticated bits=0) by leia.peony.at (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id k5JKBFrJ007489 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:11:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Daniel_K=F6b?= Subject: Re: F-spot user forum Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:10:24 +0200 To: David Berg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at chicago097 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 20:13:01 -0000 Am 19.06.2006 um 04:51 schrieb David Berg: > I guess I'm also not used to sites where information can only be > accessed through searching for it or using a direct link. Perhaps a > mechanism to browse the wiki would be useful. Maybe you find one of these pages useful: http://f-spot.org/Special:Specialpages Daniel From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Mon Jun 19 22:05:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302153B0CC5 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:05:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16756-06 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:05:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.203]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958883B0ABD for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:05:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id x3so1236027nzd for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.251.10 with SMTP id y10mr6140024qbh; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f16sm2671314qba.2006.06.19.18.57.59; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:58:04 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list Subject: Re: F-spot user forum References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 02:05:45 -0000 Dotan Cohen wrote: > Have you seen what fedorafaq.org has done for Fedora? It's all the > same information that is available in Fedora's wiki, but in a Q/A > format on a single page. > > Also, and this may sound rediculous but it's true, having both the > wiki and a seperate FAQ site is two sites supporting f-spot, rather > than one. Even if they have mostly the same information. That's > important for people googling solutions or considering a switch to > fspot. I, for one, have reservations about switching to a product with > very little in the way of online documentation. This will add to the > amount of online documentation resources available to the community. I think this sounds pretty dangerous. F-spot is a great product, and I don't think having a second artificially created website will make it any more accepted or popular. Also, I think it would be bad to have a FAQ maintained separately from the main website - it would mean that the core contributors would have to log into two places to maintain things. Any time you put documentation in two places, you greatly increase the likelyhood of it going out of sync. However, having a FAQ section/page on the current site would be wonderful, and if you are still interested in doing it, I think that would be great! Warren From bengt@thuree.com Tue Jun 20 03:04:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A453B0F28 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:04:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31178-08 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:03:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (1-1-3-2a.ehn.lk.bostream.se [82.183.137.113]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC463B0DE5 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:03:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by denton.thuree.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905F13AA9B for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:02:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 194.237.142.21 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bengt) by denton.thuree.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:02:33 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <15179.194.237.142.21.1150786953.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> In-Reply-To: <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:02:33 +0900 (JST) Subject: Re: F-spot user forum From: "Bengt Thuree" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-thuree-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-thuree-MailScanner-From: bengt@thuree.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:04:01 -0000 On Ti, 2006-06-20, 10:58, Warren Baird skrev: > Dotan Cohen wrote: >> Have you seen what fedorafaq.org has done for Fedora? It's all the >> same information that is available in Fedora's wiki, but in a Q/A >> format on a single page. >> > > I think this sounds pretty dangerous. F-spot is a great product, and I > don't think having a second artificially created website will make it > any more accepted or popular. Definitely second this > > Also, I think it would be bad to have a FAQ maintained separately from > the main website - it would mean that the core contributors would have > to log into two places to maintain things. Again, definitely second this > However, having a FAQ section/page on the current site would be > wonderful, and if you are still interested in doing it, I think that > would be great! Just to repeat myself... Again, definitely second this To have the same material in many places will just cause a lot of problems. On the other hand, having reviews of F-Spot, or links to F-Spot in many places would be very nice. Another thing I have been thinking of, is to create a Concept Guide (and perhaps a Help manual). If you are unsure what I am talking about, please check GnuCash concept guide. Here is the link to the CVS version. http://cvs.gnucash.org/docs/guide/ This is created in DocBook format, and is easily converted to Gnome help format, can be read by Yelp, can be converted to PDF as well as to TXT format. But, perhaps best to wait a bit until F-Spot gets a bit closer to 1.0? Then again, we should be able to come up with wich chapters we should have, and fill in general things, and possible more detailed information as well. The bad thing though, the more detailed the information is, the more often you will have to change since F-Spot is still under heavy development... My small 0.02 cents... /Bengt From stephane@delcroix.org Tue Jun 20 03:24:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28353B0F09 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32166-07 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:23:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6003B0EE3 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:23:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1703 invoked by uid 503); 20 Jun 2006 07:23:55 -0000 Received: from b7.ovh.net (HELO mail156.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.57) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 07:23:55 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 07:15:20 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 07:15:13 -0000 Subject: F-Spot plug-ins From: Stephane Delcroix To: F-Spot list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq" Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:16:03 +0200 Message-Id: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.941 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.523, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -1.941 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:24:02 -0000 --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone, I'm quite proud to give you this patch, adding support for loading plug-ins into F-Spot. I'll submit it to b.g.o. soon. For now, all Plugins in all .dll in $HOME/.gnome2/f-spot/plugins are loaded, but I plan to write another plugin to enable them at will. The patch include Thomas's solution to #344534, so you can compile plug-ins from outside the source tree using: mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot MyPlugin.cs Find also attached below 2 plugins, one displaying a dialog about plugins, and a first Export Plug-in, for sending mail (the export code is just a cut and paste from F-Spot core code). Those 2 plugins compile with: mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 DialogPlugin.cs mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 SendMailPlugin.cs It's a first and very early version, so write a lot of comments about it... rgds, Stephane --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=plugins.patch Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=plugins.patch; charset=ANSI_X3.4-1968 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: Makefile.am =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/Makefile.am,v retrieving revision 1.13 diff -u -p -r1.13 Makefile.am --- Makefile.am 17 Feb 2006 17:02:32 -0000 1.13 +++ Makefile.am 19 Jun 2006 15:54:03 -0000 @@ -17,6 +17,9 @@ desktop_in_files= \ desktop_files=$(desktop_in_files:.desktop.in=.desktop) @INTLTOOL_DESKTOP_RULE@ +pkgconfigdir = $(libdir)/pkgconfig +pkgconfig_DATA = f-spot.pc + Applicationsdir = $(datadir)/applications Applications_DATA = $(desktop_files) @@ -30,6 +33,7 @@ EXTRA_DIST = \ intltool-extract.in \ intltool-merge.in \ intltool-update.in \ + f-spot.pc.in \ f-spot.spec \ $(desktop_in_files) \ $(desktop_files) Index: configure.in =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/configure.in,v retrieving revision 1.102 diff -u -p -r1.102 configure.in --- configure.in 24 May 2006 15:44:42 -0000 1.102 +++ configure.in 19 Jun 2006 15:54:03 -0000 @@ -182,6 +182,7 @@ po/Makefile.in src/Defines.cs src/f-spot.exe.config src/Makefile +f-spot.pc f-spot.spec f-spot.desktop.in ]) Index: src/Global.cs =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/src/Global.cs,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -p -r1.8 Global.cs --- src/Global.cs 22 Mar 2006 19:14:41 -0000 1.8 +++ src/Global.cs 19 Jun 2006 15:54:03 -0000 @@ -18,6 +18,12 @@ namespace FSpot { } } + public static string PluginsDirectory { + get { + return System.IO.Path.Combine (BaseDirectory, "plugins"); + } + } + public static void ModifyColors (Gtk.Widget widget) { try { Index: src/MainWindow.cs =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/src/MainWindow.cs,v retrieving revision 1.298 diff -u -p -r1.298 MainWindow.cs --- src/MainWindow.cs 9 Jun 2006 23:24:57 -0000 1.298 +++ src/MainWindow.cs 19 Jun 2006 15:54:05 -0000 @@ -44,6 +44,7 @@ public class MainWindow { [Glade.Widget] MenuItem rename_version_menu_item; [Glade.Widget] MenuItem export; + [Glade.Widget] MenuItem export_menu_item; [Glade.Widget] MenuItem print; [Glade.Widget] MenuItem send_mail; @@ -107,6 +108,8 @@ public class MainWindow { PhotoVersionMenu versions_submenu; + ExportMenu export_submenu; + Gtk.ToggleButton browse_button; Gtk.ToggleButton edit_button; @@ -376,6 +379,10 @@ public class MainWindow { // When the icon_view is loaded, set it's initial scroll position icon_view.SizeAllocated += HandleIconViewReady; +System.Console.WriteLine("###############################################"); +FSpot.Plugins.Plugger plugger = new FSpot.Plugins.Plugger(); +System.Console.WriteLine("###############################################"); + UpdateToolbar (); } @@ -1463,7 +1470,8 @@ public class MainWindow { "Joshua Tauberer", "Joerg Buesse", "Jakub Steiner", - "Xavier Bouchoux" + "Xavier Bouchoux", + "Stephane Delcroix" }; // Translators should localize the following string @@ -2495,6 +2503,9 @@ public class MainWindow { version_menu_item.Submenu = versions_submenu; } + export_submenu = new ExportMenu (); + export_menu_item.Submenu = export_submenu; + set_as_background.Sensitive = single_active; adjust_color.Sensitive = single_active; adjust_time.Sensitive = active_selection; @@ -2905,4 +2916,12 @@ public class MainWindow { { toolTips.SetTip (widget, tip, null); } + + // + //Hooks for plugin + // + public void HandleExportWithPlugin (FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin ex_plugin) { + ex_plugin.DoExport(new FSpot.PhotoArray (SelectedPhotos ())); + } + } Index: src/Makefile.am =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/src/Makefile.am,v retrieving revision 1.63 diff -u -p -r1.63 Makefile.am --- src/Makefile.am 26 Apr 2006 20:31:07 -0000 1.63 +++ src/Makefile.am 19 Jun 2006 15:54:06 -0000 @@ -25,6 +25,7 @@ F_SPOT_CSDISTFILES = \ $(srcdir)/DirectoryCollection.cs \ $(srcdir)/ExceptionDialog.cs \ $(srcdir)/Exif.cs \ + $(srcdir)/ExportMenu.cs \ $(srcdir)/FlickrExport.cs \ $(srcdir)/FlickrRemote.cs \ $(srcdir)/FileImportBackend.cs \ @@ -79,6 +80,7 @@ F_SPOT_CSDISTFILES = \ $(srcdir)/PixbufUtils.cs \ $(srcdir)/PixbufCache.cs \ $(srcdir)/PixelBuffer.cs \ + $(srcdir)/Plugins.cs \ $(srcdir)/PreferenceDialog.cs \ $(srcdir)/Preferences.cs \ $(srcdir)/PreviewPopup.cs \ Index: src/f-spot.glade =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/src/f-spot.glade,v retrieving revision 1.164 diff -u -p -r1.164 f-spot.glade --- src/f-spot.glade 6 Jun 2006 18:09:47 -0000 1.164 +++ src/f-spot.glade 19 Jun 2006 15:54:20 -0000 @@ -7250,6 +7250,20 @@ Photo Details + + + + True + + + + + + True + Export plugins + True + + @@ -7272,7 +7286,7 @@ Photo Details - + True gnome-stock-mail-fwd 1 @@ -7297,8 +7311,8 @@ Photo Details _Close True - + @@ -7635,7 +7649,7 @@ Photo Details True _Folder True - False + True month --- /dev/null 2006-06-19 09:02:49.376262000 +0200 +++ src/Plugins.cs 2006-06-19 17:38:29.000000000 +0200 @@ -0,0 +1,120 @@ +/* + * Plugins.cs + * + * Authors: + * Stephane Delcroix + * + * Copyright (C) 2006 Stephane Delcroix + * + */ + + +using System; +using System.Reflection; + +using System.Collections; + +using FSpot; + +namespace FSpot.Plugins { + + public class Plugger { + private static System.Collections.Hashtable plugins = new System.Collections.Hashtable(); + + public static string [] PluginsList { + get { + string [] list = new String[plugins.Count]; + plugins.Keys.CopyTo(list,0); + return list; + } + } + + public static string [] LoadedPlugins (System.Type type) { + ArrayList loadedplugins = new ArrayList(); + foreach (string plugin in PluginsList){ + if ( ((Plugin)plugins[plugin]).IsLoaded && (plugins[plugin]).GetType().IsSubclassOf(type)) + loadedplugins.Add(plugin); + } + return (string [])loadedplugins.ToArray(typeof(System.String)); + } + + public static string [] LoadedPlugins() { return LoadedPlugins(typeof(FSpot.Plugins.Plugin)); } + + public static Plugin Plugin(string ShortName) + { + return (Plugin)plugins[ShortName]; + } + + public Plugger () + { + LoadPluginsFromDirectory(FSpot.Global.PluginsDirectory); + InitializePlugins(PluginsList); + } + + public void LoadPluginsFromDirectories (string [] directories) + { + foreach ( String directory in directories ) + LoadPluginsFromDirectory (directory); + } + + private void LoadPluginsFromDirectory (string path) + { + foreach ( String dll in System.IO.Directory.GetFiles(path, "*.dll") ) + LoadPluginsFromFile(dll); + } + + private void LoadPluginsFromFile(string pluginfile) + { + Console.WriteLine ("Loading plugins from {0}...", pluginfile); + Assembly assembly = Assembly.LoadFile(pluginfile); + Type [] ts = assembly.GetTypes(); + foreach (Type t in ts){ + if ( t.IsSubclassOf(typeof(FSpot.Plugins.Plugin)) ){ + Plugin plugin = (Plugin)assembly.CreateInstance(t.ToString()); + Console.WriteLine("{0} available", t); + //FIXME: check if ShortName already exists in plugins[] + plugins [plugin.ShortName] = plugin; + } else + Console.WriteLine("{0} is NOT a Plugin", t); + } + } + + public void InitializePlugins(string [] pluginslist) + { + foreach (String plugin in pluginslist) { + ((Plugin)plugins[plugin]).Load(); + } + } + } + + public abstract class Plugin { + public abstract string DisplayName { get; } + public virtual string ShortName { get { return DisplayName; } } + public abstract string Description { get; } + private bool Loaded = false; + + public bool IsLoaded { + get { return Loaded; } + } + + public Plugin () + { + } + + public void Load () { + PluginInitialize(); + Loaded = true; + } + + protected abstract void PluginInitialize(); + } + + public abstract class ExportPlugin: Plugin { + public abstract string MenuEntryName { get; } + public void HandleMenuItemActivated(object sender, EventArgs args) + { + MainWindow.Toplevel.HandleExportWithPlugin(this); + } + public abstract void DoExport(IBrowsableCollection selectedphotos); + } +} --- /dev/null 2006-06-19 09:02:49.376262000 +0200 +++ src/ExportMenu.cs 2006-06-19 16:30:49.000000000 +0200 @@ -0,0 +1,28 @@ +using Gtk; +using GtkSharp; +using System; + +namespace FSpot { + public class ExportMenu : Menu { + public ExportMenu () + { + string [] exportplugins = FSpot.Plugins.Plugger.LoadedPlugins(typeof(FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin)); + + if ( exportplugins == null || exportplugins.Length == 0 ) { + MenuItem menu_item = new MenuItem ("No Export Plug-in available"); + menu_item.Show(); + menu_item.Sensitive = false; + Append(menu_item); + } + foreach (string shortname in exportplugins) { + FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin plugin = (FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin)FSpot.Plugins.Plugger.Plugin(shortname); + MenuItem menu_item = new MenuItem (plugin.MenuEntryName); + menu_item.Show(); + menu_item.Sensitive = true; + menu_item.Activated += new EventHandler (plugin.HandleMenuItemActivated); + + Append(menu_item); + } + } + } +} --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=DialogPlugin.cs Content-Type: text/x-csharp; name=DialogPlugin.cs; charset=ANSI_X3.4-1968 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit using System; using FSpot; using FSpot.Plugins; namespace FSpot.Plugins { public class DialogPlugin: FSpot.Plugins.Plugin { public override string DisplayName { get { return "Dialog Plugin"; } } public override string ShortName { get { return "DialogPlugin"; } } public override string Description { get { return "Warn the user about using plugins"; } } protected override void PluginInitialize() { Console.WriteLine("Initializing Dialog Plugin"); String header = "Plug-ins enabled version of F-Spot"; String msg = "You are running a plug-ins enabled version of F-Spot" + "\nPlug-ins can crash your F-Spot, delete all your images, and " + "completely destroy your database." + "\nYou have been warned! Don't fill any bug report " + "regarding plug-ins"; HigMessageDialog.RunHigMessageDialog(MainWindow.Toplevel.Window, Gtk.DialogFlags.DestroyWithParent, Gtk.MessageType.Warning, Gtk.ButtonsType.Ok,header,msg); } } } --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=SendMailPlugin.cs Content-Type: text/x-csharp; name=SendMailPlugin.cs; charset=ANSI_X3.4-1968 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit using System; using FSpot; using FSpot.Plugins; namespace FSpot.Plugins { public class SendMailPlugin: FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin { public override string DisplayName { get { return "Send Mail Plugin"; } } public override string ShortName { get { return "SendMailPlugin"; } } public override string Description { get { return "Create an e-mail with your photos attached"; } } public override string MenuEntryName { get { return "Send Mail...";} } protected override void PluginInitialize() { Console.WriteLine("Initializing Send Mail Plugin"); } public override void DoExport (IBrowsableCollection sel_photos) { Photo [] photos = (Photo [])sel_photos.Items; System.Text.StringBuilder url = new System.Text.StringBuilder ("mailto:?subject=my%20photos"); foreach (Photo p in photos) { url.Append ("&attach=" + UriList.EscapeString (p.DefaultVersionUri.LocalPath, true, true, true)); } Gnome.Url.Show (url.ToString ()); Console.WriteLine ("Exporting {0} pictures", sel_photos.Count); } } } --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq-- From nmarais@snowisp.com Tue Jun 20 05:13:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95F73B0097 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:13:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05163-09 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:13:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ctb-mesg7.saix.net (ctb-mesg7.saix.net [196.25.240.77]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80823B0ECC for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:13:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from office.snowballeffect.net (dsl-165-225-212.telkomadsl.co.za [165.165.225.212]) by ctb-mesg7.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD702366F for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:12:36 +0200 (SAST) Received: (qmail 29551 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2006 13:50:59 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.20.130.19?) (10.20.130.19) by 192.168.20.58 with (RC4-MD5 encrypted) SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 13:50:59 +0200 Subject: Big Collections/Complex Meta-data/Is F-Spot (going to be) for me? From: Neilen Marais To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:12:18 +0200 Message-Id: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.533 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.533 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:13:43 -0000 Hi I have a pretty big image database (about 12k photos) with fairly complex meta-data maintained in KPhotoAlbum. I've been eying F-spot for a while, since it has a very active community, looks pretty and seems quite nice to use. I'm quite excited by F-spot's ability to handle picture versions and RAW files. I also prefer GNOME apps all else being equal. KPhotoAlbum is not quite as smooth, but it's interface seems more "scalable" to me, while F-spot tries (and manages very well) to make easy stuff easy. I don't think scalable and easy need to be mutually exclusive though. I'll list some features in KPhotoAlbum that I find makes it very useful for large/complex collections, and why they are useful. Perhaps I can convince the right people that it may be useful to implement something similar (if not identical) in F-Spot. These comments refer to F-Spot 0.1.11, as shipped with Ubuntu Dapper. I'll refer to KPhotoAlbum as KP from here on to save typing. Separate "Namespaces" ===================== F-spot seems to require the last level of a tag to be unique. Besides offending my personal sense of logical aesthetics, it also poses practical problems ;P In KP, each top-level tag is called a Category, and the tags within each Category are completely independent. In my KP database I have a "People" category for people visible in the photo, and a "Photographer" category for the person who took the picture. Of course People can also be Photographers, but usually not at the same time. Also the total number of photographers aren't the same as the total number of people. It's also possible that unrelated tags can coincidentally have the same name. E.g. if you travel all over the world and meet people from all over the world, it's not unlikely that some placename in one country may be the same as someones name in another. In fact, identical placenames are quite common. Places.USA.Alabama.Greenville is not the same as Places.USA.California.Greenville (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cities#Most_common_city_names for more fun.) One can disambiguate by having Greenville_CA, but I already told you it's in California, damnit ;) Actually this is a problem in KP as well, since it's doesn't do any hierarchy within a category. It does have membership groups that does something similar, but that does not solve this problem. Membership Groups ----------------- I think F-Spot's hierarchical tags can fill the same need, but I'll describe them so its clear what I'm talking about. I'll use the Places category as an example. Say the location is "Friendly Bob's House" in Pinelands (the town), Western Cape (the state), South Africa. In KP I can make the location "South Africa" a membership group. Then I can assign all the states in South Africa (that I have in my DB anyway) to this group (e.g. Western Cape, Gauteng, etc.). Then I make Western Cape another membership group, and assign all the cities to it (e.g. Pinelands, Cape Town, etc.). I make Pinelands a membership group, and add "Friendly Bob's house" to it. Now I tag the picture with only "Friendly Bob's house". Because of the membership groups, KP knows the picture also belongs to "Pinelands", "Western Cape" and "South Africa", and will be found by searches on any of those 4 locations. Of course, Locations.South Africa.Western Cape.Pinelands would do just as well. It will also be more explicit (good), and if F-Spot supported it, would be separate from Locations.South Africa.Kwazulu Natal.Pinelands (which also exists!) Default "And" searching ======================= >From reading the list it seems that F-Spot will get more searching options soon, but IMHO if you can have only one choice, "and" would be better than "or". I hope that when the more featureful searching comes, there will be an easy way to make the default "and". Restrict Tags when Searching ============================ This kind of goes together with the default "and" searching. KP's main interface shows you a list of top level tags, along with how many entries each has. e.g. Locations - 10 People - 6 Then you select People -> "Friendly Bob" You can then look at all the pictures containing Bob, or keep selecting search tags. However, all the tags that never occur with Bob are removed, e.g. Locations - 4 People - 3 I.o.w. you see only the Locations that Bob's been photographed at and only the people that have been photographed with Bob. Now select Locations -> "Friendly Bob's House", and look at the pictures of Bob at his house, or continue: Locations (greyed out, since there are no others) People - 2 Then you could choose to look at pictures of Bob with his wife, or Bob with his son. I like this feature for two reasons. 1) If you're and-searching, there's no point in seeing the tags that will result in no pictures being found. 2) Its nice to see, for instance, how many people you have photographed at a certain location. Scalable Tag Selection ====================== It's hard to compare KP directly to F-Spot here, since the interface paradigms are quite different, so I'll just sketch my problem. In KP I have 9 Categories (i.e. top level tags), and some of them have many subtags. E.g. Events - 143 Keywords - 21 Locations - 237 Persons - 203 Photographer - 33 I've only had a camera for about two years, but found I like both photography and detailed tagging. I'm sure these numbers will have grown considerably in 10 years time! I will always have at least one tag from each of the 5 categories I listed here attached to every picture, so it is critical that tags can be selected from a large selection easily. KP makes the default way of finding a tag incremental search, and also sorts tags in order of last use by default. It also manages each category completely separately which means the 100's of "Persons" tags don't make it hard to pick a tag from the "Keywords" category. While I haven't dealt with that many tags in F-Spot, my feeling is the tag toolbar/tree on the left of F-Spot will be fairly well suited to dealing with many tags. Other places, where there are flat lists with all tag hierarchies exploded, will probably be unpleasant to use. What I'd need to switch ======================= Like you care ;P Anyway, my needs in order of priority are 1) "Fully qualified" tag uniqueness (i.e. People.A != Places.A) 2) "And" searching 3) Tag Restrictions while and-searching 4) Improved UI for selecting from large numbers of tags 1) is completely critical, since I can't losslesly move my current data into F-Spot without it. 2) is pretty important. 3) and 4) would be nice to have, but not that important. If other people think it's a good idea, should I make feature requests on the F-spot bugzilla, or how should I go ahead? Thanks for listening Neilen -- you know its kind of tragic we live in the new world but we've lost the magic -- Battery 9 (www.battery9.co.za) From stephane@delcroix.org Tue Jun 20 05:38:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3E33B0329 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:38:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06374-04 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:38:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B85A3B02FA for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:38:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28829 invoked by uid 503); 20 Jun 2006 09:38:57 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail56.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 09:38:57 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 09:37:27 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 09:37:25 -0000 Subject: Re: F-Spot plug-ins From: Stephane Delcroix To: F-Spot list In-Reply-To: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> References: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:37:26 +0200 Message-Id: <1150796247.5909.31.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.152 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.246, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558] X-Spam-Score: -1.152 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:38:37 -0000 the bug in b.g.o.: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345395 On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 09:16 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm quite proud to give you this patch, adding support for loading > plug-ins into F-Spot. I'll submit it to b.g.o. soon. > > For now, all Plugins in all .dll in $HOME/.gnome2/f-spot/plugins are > loaded, but I plan to write another plugin to enable them at will. > > The patch include Thomas's solution to #344534, so you can compile > plug-ins from outside the source tree using: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot MyPlugin.cs > > Find also attached below 2 plugins, one displaying a dialog about > plugins, and a first Export Plug-in, for sending mail (the export code > is just a cut and paste from F-Spot core code). > > Those 2 plugins compile with: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 DialogPlugin.cs > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 SendMailPlugin.cs > > It's a first and very early version, so write a lot of comments about > it... > > rgds, > > Stephane > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list -- Stephane Delcroix stephane@delcroix.org From bengt@thuree.com Tue Jun 20 06:31:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18373B00FE for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 06:31:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08584-07 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 06:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.196]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BEB33B0248 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 06:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5KAUR3H011245; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:30:33 +1000 Subject: Re: F-Spot plug-ins From: Bengt Thuree To: Stephane Delcroix In-Reply-To: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> References: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:30:26 +1000 Message-Id: <1150799426.5458.0.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.531 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.531 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:31:48 -0000 On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 09:16 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm quite proud to give you this patch, adding support for loading > plug-ins into F-Spot. I'll submit it to b.g.o. soon. > > For now, all Plugins in all .dll in $HOME/.gnome2/f-spot/plugins are > loaded, but I plan to write another plugin to enable them at will. > > The patch include Thomas's solution to #344534, so you can compile > plug-ins from outside the source tree using: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot MyPlugin.cs > > Find also attached below 2 plugins, one displaying a dialog about > plugins, and a first Export Plug-in, for sending mail (the export code > is just a cut and paste from F-Spot core code). > > Those 2 plugins compile with: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 DialogPlugin.cs > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 SendMailPlugin.cs > > It's a first and very early version, so write a lot of comments about > it... > hier > rgds, > > Stephane Congratulations :) Looks good to me, not the best on plugins though. Would it be easy to add plugins for any part of F-Spot, or only for Export? /Bengt From stephane@delcroix.org Tue Jun 20 07:50:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556F33B078A for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:50:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12349-08 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1703B044D for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:49:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5534 invoked by uid 503); 20 Jun 2006 11:50:17 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail15.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 11:50:16 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 11:48:38 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 11:48:34 -0000 Subject: Re: Big Collections/Complex Meta-data/Is F-Spot (going to be) for me? From: Stephane Delcroix To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:48:43 +0200 Message-Id: <1150804124.5909.60.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.139 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.233, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558] X-Spam-Score: -1.139 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:50:00 -0000 Hi, Some of your needs are already work in progress. Check http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338558 for fully-qualified tag uniqueness, it's a strong request but solving it will require re-coding the 'Tag Typing'. Check http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139796 for advanced queries. It's one of the oldest bug request / patch in f-spot. You can CC your email address to follow the discussion about them. I like the idea of displaying more info about the selection (items per tag, ...). You can probably submit a enhancement request in bugzilla and attach a mockup of the UI. As always in F-Spot, the problem is not writing code to solve an issue, it's about writing good code and give the user a nice experience. Thanks for your report, Stephane On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 11:12 +0200, Neilen Marais wrote: > Hi > > I have a pretty big image database (about 12k photos) with fairly > complex meta-data maintained in KPhotoAlbum. I've been eying F-spot for > a while, since it has a very active community, looks pretty and seems > quite nice to use. I'm quite excited by F-spot's ability to handle > picture versions and RAW files. I also prefer GNOME apps all else being > equal. > > KPhotoAlbum is not quite as smooth, but it's interface seems more > "scalable" to me, while F-spot tries (and manages very well) to make > easy stuff easy. I don't think scalable and easy need to be mutually > exclusive though. > > I'll list some features in KPhotoAlbum that I find makes it very useful > for large/complex collections, and why they are useful. Perhaps I can > convince the right people that it may be useful to implement something > similar (if not identical) in F-Spot. > > These comments refer to F-Spot 0.1.11, as shipped with Ubuntu Dapper. > I'll refer to KPhotoAlbum as KP from here on to save typing. > > Separate "Namespaces" > ===================== > > F-spot seems to require the last level of a tag to be unique. Besides > offending my personal sense of logical aesthetics, it also poses > practical problems ;P > > In KP, each top-level tag is called a Category, and the tags within each > Category are completely independent. In my KP database I have a "People" > category for people visible in the photo, and a "Photographer" category > for the person who took the picture. Of course People can also be > Photographers, but usually not at the same time. Also the total number > of photographers aren't the same as the total number of people. > > It's also possible that unrelated tags can coincidentally have the same > name. E.g. if you travel all over the world and meet people from all > over the world, it's not unlikely that some placename in one country may > be the same as someones name in another. > > In fact, identical placenames are quite common. > Places.USA.Alabama.Greenville is not the same as > Places.USA.California.Greenville (see > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cities#Most_common_city_names for > more fun.) One can disambiguate by having Greenville_CA, but I already > told you it's in California, damnit ;) > > Actually this is a problem in KP as well, since it's doesn't do any > hierarchy within a category. It does have membership groups that does > something similar, but that does not solve this problem. > > Membership Groups > ----------------- > > I think F-Spot's hierarchical tags can fill the same need, but I'll > describe them so its clear what I'm talking about. > > I'll use the Places category as an example. Say the location is > "Friendly Bob's House" in Pinelands (the town), Western Cape (the > state), South Africa. In KP I can make the location "South Africa" a > membership group. Then I can assign all the states in South Africa (that > I have in my DB anyway) to this group (e.g. Western Cape, Gauteng, > etc.). Then I make Western Cape another membership group, and assign all > the cities to it (e.g. Pinelands, Cape Town, etc.). I make Pinelands a > membership group, and add "Friendly Bob's house" to it. > > Now I tag the picture with only "Friendly Bob's house". Because of the > membership groups, KP knows the picture also belongs to "Pinelands", > "Western Cape" and "South Africa", and will be found by searches on any > of those 4 locations. > > Of course, Locations.South Africa.Western Cape.Pinelands would do just > as well. It will also be more explicit (good), and if F-Spot supported > it, would be separate from Locations.South Africa.Kwazulu > Natal.Pinelands (which also exists!) > > Default "And" searching > ======================= > > >From reading the list it seems that F-Spot will get more searching > options soon, but IMHO if you can have only one choice, "and" would be > better than "or". I hope that when the more featureful searching comes, > there will be an easy way to make the default "and". > > Restrict Tags when Searching > ============================ > > This kind of goes together with the default "and" searching. KP's main > interface shows you a list of top level tags, along with how many > entries each has. e.g. > > Locations - 10 > People - 6 > > Then you select People -> "Friendly Bob" > > You can then look at all the pictures containing Bob, or keep selecting > search tags. However, all the tags that never occur with Bob are > removed, e.g. > > Locations - 4 > People - 3 > > I.o.w. you see only the Locations that Bob's been photographed at and > only the people that have been photographed with Bob. > > Now select Locations -> "Friendly Bob's House", > > and look at the pictures of Bob at his house, or continue: > > Locations (greyed out, since there are no others) > People - 2 > > Then you could choose to look at pictures of Bob with his wife, or Bob > with his son. > > I like this feature for two reasons. > > 1) If you're and-searching, there's no point in seeing the tags that > will result in no pictures being found. > 2) Its nice to see, for instance, how many people you have photographed > at a certain location. > > Scalable Tag Selection > ====================== > > It's hard to compare KP directly to F-Spot here, since the > interface paradigms are quite different, so I'll just sketch my problem. > In KP I have 9 Categories (i.e. top level tags), and some of them have > many subtags. E.g. > > Events - 143 > Keywords - 21 > Locations - 237 > Persons - 203 > Photographer - 33 > > I've only had a camera for about two years, but found I like both > photography and detailed tagging. I'm sure these numbers will have grown > considerably in 10 years time! > > I will always have at least one tag from each of the 5 categories I > listed here attached to every picture, so it is critical that tags can > be selected from a large selection easily. KP makes the default way of > finding a tag incremental search, and also sorts tags in order of last > use by default. It also manages each category completely separately > which means the 100's of "Persons" tags don't make it hard to pick a tag > from the "Keywords" category. > > While I haven't dealt with that many tags in F-Spot, my feeling is the > tag toolbar/tree on the left of F-Spot will be fairly well suited to > dealing with many tags. Other places, where there are flat lists with > all tag hierarchies exploded, will probably be unpleasant to use. > > What I'd need to switch > ======================= > > Like you care ;P Anyway, my needs in order of priority are > > 1) "Fully qualified" tag uniqueness (i.e. People.A != Places.A) > 2) "And" searching > 3) Tag Restrictions while and-searching > 4) Improved UI for selecting from large numbers of tags > > 1) is completely critical, since I can't losslesly move my current data > into F-Spot without it. > 2) is pretty important. > > 3) and 4) would be nice to have, but not that important. > > If other people think it's a good idea, should I make feature requests > on the F-spot bugzilla, or how should I go ahead? > > Thanks for listening > Neilen > -- Stephane Delcroix stephane@delcroix.org From bengt@thuree.com Tue Jun 20 08:47:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885573B0458 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15956-03 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:47:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.196]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E5F3B0452 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:47:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5KCkoxJ024455; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:46:51 +1000 Subject: Re: IPTC Tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606190501r3cfac1fbp86b66427944c2f81@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> <1150580384.6150.28.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606190501r3cfac1fbp86b66427944c2f81@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:46:50 +1000 Message-Id: <1150807610.5458.5.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.533 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.067, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.533 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:47:59 -0000 Hi I tested it a bit, and F-Spot do read (in MetaData browser) the Keyword field. But none of the others (as I read somewhere on the web, they are not following the standard IPTC standard.) Hopefully, you can still base your patch on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 and get it to work with IPTC files. Check IptcFile.cs also. Good luck. /Bengt From lewing@novell.com Wed Jun 21 10:46:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D453B1035 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13755-02 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:45:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0983B0FD5 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:45:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3202 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2006 14:45:50 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.6.126?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jun 2006 14:45:50 -0000 Subject: Re: Importing photos with tags From: Larry Ewing To: Bengt Thuree In-Reply-To: <1150533952.6150.8.camel@workie.thuree.com> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> <1150533952.6150.8.camel@workie.thuree.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:53:56 -0500 Message-Id: <1150901636.8583.2.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:46:00 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-17 at 18:45 +1000, Bengt Thuree wrote: > > > > Thanks, I'll look into that. I'm really a novice, what I can do is > > extract the IPTC data that the tags are currently in with PHP and then > > produce a text file (be it XML or SQL) to work with. > > > > Dotan Cohen > > > > http://what-is-what.com > > > > Actually, have a look at the JPG file first. > If the tags are stored in IPTC as well as in XMP format, you should be > able to use the patch I wrote to let F-Spot read XMP data. > IViewMedia Pro, were only supposed to store in IPTC as far as I > understood, but they also stored the tags in XMP format. > > Also, I think that F-Spot has prepared to deal with IPTC tags as well. > Have a look and see in IptcFile.cs, and see if you can create a new > patch based on the XMP importer? > > Anyway, gthumb stores its tags in an xml file per photo, so you can take > a look at that patch. > All the metadata formats that f-spot parses it also can convert to XMP, that is how the extended metadata section in the metadata dialog is created. The code could use some polish but it should make normalizing the import code fairly simple. As a side note, it would be good if the gthumb parsing code could convert to XMP as well. --Larry From lewing@novell.com Wed Jun 21 10:51:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B772A3B0FA3 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14185-06 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43713B0EB3 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:51:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3228 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2006 14:51:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.6.126?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jun 2006 14:51:21 -0000 Subject: Re: plugin support for F-Spot From: Larry Ewing To: Stephane Delcroix In-Reply-To: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> References: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:59:31 -0500 Message-Id: <1150901971.8583.8.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.465 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.066, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.465 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:51:28 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 16:20 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Hi list, > > I've spend some time lately to develop a plugin facility for F-Spot. So > far, I've a virtual plugin class, some methods to load plugins, and a > testplugin. Thanks to Thomas and his solution to bug #344534, I've also > a way to compile plugins without the F-Spot sources. > > The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as > many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to > my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my > guess), but some people need this. > Sounds great. Import, export, editing, file format, metadata and sychronization are all possible plug-in entry points. The ImageFile code is meant to be trivially converted into a plugable system. The main issue with export as a plug in is dealing with the ui a sane way that avoids the gimp giant menu trap but also isn't too limiting on what sort of UI the plug-in can present to the user. I've given it a fair amount of thought, I'll try to write down what I've come up with in the next couple of days as i prepare for guadec. --Larry From bengt@thuree.com Wed Jun 21 18:22:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17AD3B00E4 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09445-06 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:22:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DEC3B03ED for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:21:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5LMLnqs031828; Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:21:50 +1000 Subject: Re: Importing photos with tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Larry Ewing In-Reply-To: <1150901636.8583.2.camel@blue.site> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> <1150533952.6150.8.camel@workie.thuree.com> <1150901636.8583.2.camel@blue.site> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:21:49 +1000 Message-Id: <1150928510.5385.9.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.534 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.066, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.534 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 22:22:17 -0000 On Wed, 2006-06-21 at 09:53 -0500, Larry Ewing wrote: > All the metadata formats that f-spot parses it also can convert to XMP, > that is how the extended metadata section in the metadata dialog is > created. The code could use some polish but it should make normalizing > the import code fairly simple. As a side note, it would be good if the > gthumb parsing code could convert to XMP as well. Convert to XMP? The gthumb as well as XMP parsing code, simply finds the tags, and then creates them the normal way with including storing them embedded inside the photo. Or did I miss something? > needs_commit |= gthumb.Import (photo, orig_path); > if (needs_commit) > store.Commit (photo); > /Bengt From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 23 13:39:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69EF3B04C1 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:39:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28028-07 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:39:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0C13B0813 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:39:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1216488uge for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.151.3 with SMTP id y3mr1393310hud; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606231039s39eadf04h3ab13415f0e8d48e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:39:24 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Accessing tags with PHP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.21 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.390, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.21 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:39:28 -0000 I have set up f-spot to store the tags in the picture files themselves. How can I access these tags with PHP? I do know how to access IPTC tags with PHP but not the tags that f-spot uses. A simple working code example would be very, very much appreciated. Also, are the tags UTF-8? If not, what charset are they? This is the code that I use to access IPTC: "; print "People: ".$iptc["2#118"][0]."
"; print "Place: ".$iptc["2#027"][0]."
"; print "Event: ".$iptc["2#105"][0]."
"; print "Date: ".$iptc["2#055"][0]."
"; print "Time: ".$iptc["2#060"][0]."
"; ?> Note that the IPTC tags used here are not to standard, they are as per the excellent windows software BrilliantPhoto. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com From ruben@Lambda1.be Fri Jun 23 17:13:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280F73B06F5 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:13:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05460-02 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:13:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oola.is.scarlet.be (oola.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.23]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EE93B0847 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:13:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ([62.235.141.211]) by oola.is.scarlet.be with ESMTP id k5NLDoA04650; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:13:50 +0200 Received: by localhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C1005460466; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:13:49 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Accessing tags with PHP From: Ruben Vermeersch To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606231039s39eadf04h3ab13415f0e8d48e@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606231039s39eadf04h3ab13415f0e8d48e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:13:47 +0200 Message-Id: <1151097227.14599.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: oola 2020; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.59 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.59 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 21:13:56 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 20:39 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I have set up f-spot to store the tags in the picture files > themselves. How can I access these tags with PHP? I do know how to > access IPTC tags with PHP but not the tags that f-spot uses. A simple > working code example would be very, very much appreciated. > > Also, are the tags UTF-8? If not, what charset are they? > > This is the code that I use to access IPTC: > $size = GetImageSize ("/path/to/pic.jpg", &$info); > $iptc = iptcparse($info["APP13"]); > > print "Keywords: ".$iptc["2#025"][0]."
"; > print "People: ".$iptc["2#118"][0]."
"; > print "Place: ".$iptc["2#027"][0]."
"; > print "Event: ".$iptc["2#105"][0]."
"; > print "Date: ".$iptc["2#055"][0]."
"; > print "Time: ".$iptc["2#060"][0]."
"; > ?> > > Note that the IPTC tags used here are not to standard, they are as per > the excellent windows software BrilliantPhoto. As far as I know, f-spot stores tags in XMP metadata, so you'll have to extract it from XMP, not IPTC (but I could be wrong). Kind regards, Ruben Vermeersch -- Ruben Vermeersch (rubenv) http://www.Lambda1.be/ From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 23 18:04:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C69C3B0927 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:04:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07514-05 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:04:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1AC3B0905 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:04:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so59320uge for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.178.5 with SMTP id a5mr1448914huf; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606231504n399728ddh4fd14ca2404c998@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 01:04:07 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: "Ruben Vermeersch" Subject: Re: Accessing tags with PHP In-Reply-To: <1151097227.14599.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <880dece00606231039s39eadf04h3ab13415f0e8d48e@mail.gmail.com> <1151097227.14599.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.288 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.312, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.288 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:04:10 -0000 On 24/06/06, Ruben Vermeersch wrote: > On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 20:39 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I have set up f-spot to store the tags in the picture files > > themselves. How can I access these tags with PHP? I do know how to > > access IPTC tags with PHP but not the tags that f-spot uses. A simple > > working code example would be very, very much appreciated. > > > > Also, are the tags UTF-8? If not, what charset are they? > > > > This is the code that I use to access IPTC: > > > $size = GetImageSize ("/path/to/pic.jpg", &$info); > > $iptc = iptcparse($info["APP13"]); > > > > print "Keywords: ".$iptc["2#025"][0]."
"; > > print "People: ".$iptc["2#118"][0]."
"; > > print "Place: ".$iptc["2#027"][0]."
"; > > print "Event: ".$iptc["2#105"][0]."
"; > > print "Date: ".$iptc["2#055"][0]."
"; > > print "Time: ".$iptc["2#060"][0]."
"; > > ?> > > > > Note that the IPTC tags used here are not to standard, they are as per > > the excellent windows software BrilliantPhoto. > > As far as I know, f-spot stores tags in XMP metadata, so you'll have to > extract it from XMP, not IPTC (but I could be wrong). > > Kind regards, > Ruben Vermeersch > Thanks, that was clear to me. I have since found this: http://www.ozhiker.com/electronics/pjmt/library/list_contents.php4?show_fn=XMP.php But I have yet to put together working code. I'll play with ti a bit this week, but if anybody has a wheel that I don't need to reinvent, I'd appreciate seeing it. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://gmail-com.com From mailmarkh@googlemail.com Sat Jun 24 06:07:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 586A73B0146 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:07:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05863-08 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.199]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183BD3B01DC for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id t5so236733wxc for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 03:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.38.3 with SMTP id l3mr6022830wxl; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 03:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.59.10 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 03:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:07:39 +0100 From: "Mark Howard" Sender: mailmarkh@googlemail.com To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Import from disk and auto-tag MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 343ccbe359cdc39a X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:07:41 -0000 Hi, I have a large collection of photos organised on disk by directory structure. I would like f-spot to import these and automatically tag each photo based on the directory that it's in. There doesn't seem to be any gui tool for this (without specifying each directory and tag separately, which is not an option for such a large collection). Is there any other way to do this? Perhaps some (hidden) way of specifying a tag when using f-spot --import , so that I could write a simple script to do it? Many thanks in advance for any comments. Sorry if this has been asked before - I couldn't find anything through google and the mailing list search is currently broken. Mark Howard From bengt@thuree.com Sat Jun 24 06:56:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8B73B00D4 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:56:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08180-08 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:56:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C393B013A for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:56:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5OAuI9Z014916; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:56:19 +1000 Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag From: Bengt Thuree To: Mark Howard In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:56:19 +1000 Message-Id: <1151146579.13629.3.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.535 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.535 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:56:24 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 11:07 +0100, Mark Howard wrote: > Hi, > > I have a large collection of photos organised on disk by directory > structure. I would like f-spot to import these and automatically tag > each photo based on the directory that it's in. There doesn't seem to > be any gui tool for this (without specifying each directory and tag > separately, which is not an option for such a large collection). Is > there any other way to do this? Perhaps some (hidden) way of > specifying a tag when using f-spot --import , so that I could > write a simple script to do it? > > Many thanks in advance for any comments. Sorry if this has been asked > before - I couldn't find anything through google and the mailing list > search is currently broken. Sorry, but currently F-Spot do not support this. Please see bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344426 in bugzilla for a similar enhancement request. /Bengt From andreas.henden@vice-chairman.net Sat Jun 24 10:40:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3EF23B06FA for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:40:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19727-03 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gordons.ginandtonic.no (gordons.ginandtonic.no [195.159.29.69]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA973B0490 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host-81-191-129-68.bluecom.no ([81.191.129.68] helo=skrue.andeby) by gordons.ginandtonic.no with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1Fu9Io-0002Gv-71 for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:40:02 +0200 Subject: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg From: Andreas Henden To: f-spot-list Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:39:32 +0200 Message-Id: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.72 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.744, BAYES_05=-1.11, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -1.72 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:40:09 -0000 Hi I want sometimes to convert some of my cr2 files into jpg for sending by mail or something like that. I have used gimp but I can't seem to get so nice colors with gimp that is the default setting in f-spot. So I'm asking for two things. Will there be any function for converting from cr2 too jpg and or is there any way to get the same result with any command line tool or any other tool with not too much effort! -- Andreas Henden From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Sat Jun 24 10:44:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8283B07F1 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19693-10 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:44:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.195]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE393B0490 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:44:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i1so1389294nzh for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.148.4 with SMTP id v4mr1106859qbd; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f14sm166591qba.2006.06.24.07.44.05; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 07:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:44:10 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.461 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.138, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_XM=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.461 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:44:08 -0000 Mark Howard wrote: > Hi, > > I have a large collection of photos organised on disk by directory > structure. I would like f-spot to import these and automatically tag > each photo based on the directory that it's in. There doesn't seem to > be any gui tool for this (without specifying each directory and tag > separately, which is not an option for such a large collection). Is > there any other way to do this? Perhaps some (hidden) way of > specifying a tag when using f-spot --import , so that I could > write a simple script to do it? There's no mechanism to do this automatically - however, there are some patches for bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 that will make this relatively easy --- the patch I submitted against the bug will take simple xmp-like "sidecar" files at import and create tags for them. Basically you need to write a script that creates for every file foo.jpg, a file called foo.jpg.xmp - the contents should look like this: Tag 1 Tag 2 ... Tag N Then with my patch, when you do the import, the tags will be created (if necessary), and attached to each photo appropriately. Hope this helps. Warren From brian@brianpuccio.net Sat Jun 24 11:28:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDFF3B03C2 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:28:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22438-02 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:28:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server1.digitalrhapsody.com (server1.digitalrhapsody.com [204.15.133.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E3F3B08B4 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.13] (ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net [69.122.156.56]) by server1.digitalrhapsody.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1109BB7E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) In-Reply-To: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-2-1057010543" Message-Id: <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Brian Puccio Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:28:22 -0400 To: f-spot-list X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:28:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --Apple-Mail-2-1057010543 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Jun 24, 2006, at 10:39 AM, Andreas Henden wrote: > > I want sometimes to convert some of my cr2 files into jpg for > sending by > mail or something like that. I have used gimp but I can't seem to > get so > nice colors with gimp that is the default setting in f-spot. So I'm > asking for two things. Will there be any function for converting from > cr2 too jpg and or is there any way to get the same result with any > command line tool or any other tool with not too much effort! Look into tools like ufraw (it has a batch commandline mode) and dcraw (upon which ufraw is based) --Apple-Mail-2-1057010543 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQFEnVoW/FtTOrvSQB8RAnG9AJ0Wb432u5t30Lix+zC/slAr2o0TiQCfdN08 IHM6Bae6FzdD4L8k1WAliYc= =ztTX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-2-1057010543-- From andreas.henden@vice-chairman.net Sat Jun 24 12:37:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F973B01DC for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:37:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25834-01 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gordons.ginandtonic.no (gordons.ginandtonic.no [195.159.29.69]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC79B3B017E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host-81-191-129-68.bluecom.no ([81.191.129.68] helo=skrue.andeby) by gordons.ginandtonic.no with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1FuB8K-0002fs-9T; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:37:20 +0200 Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg From: Andreas Henden To: Brian Puccio In-Reply-To: <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:36:51 +0200 Message-Id: <1151167012.6113.12.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.417 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.047, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.417 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:37:45 -0000 the thing is that the default colors in f-spot is much nicer than with ufraw. On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 11:28 -0400, Brian Puccio wrote: > On Jun 24, 2006, at 10:39 AM, Andreas Henden wrote: > > > > I want sometimes to convert some of my cr2 files into jpg for > > sending by > > mail or something like that. I have used gimp but I can't seem to > > get so > > nice colors with gimp that is the default setting in f-spot. So I'm > > asking for two things. Will there be any function for converting from > > cr2 too jpg and or is there any way to get the same result with any > > command line tool or any other tool with not too much effort! > > Look into tools like ufraw (it has a batch commandline mode) and > dcraw (upon which ufraw is based) > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list -- Andreas Henden From gcgaf-f-spot-list@m.gmane.org Sat Jun 24 12:47:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982883B01DC for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:47:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26123-03 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9BA3B006E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FuBH9-0003mU-Px for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:27 +0200 Received: from p54b382b3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.179.130.179]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:27 +0200 Received: from cs_teawbdifws_001 by p54b382b3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:27 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Carsten Schurig Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:33 +0200 Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> <1151167012.6113.12.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54b382b3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060111) In-Reply-To: <1151167012.6113.12.camel@skrue.andeby> Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.216 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.094, BAYES_00=-2.599, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS=0.291, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.216 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:47:06 -0000 Andreas Henden schrieb: > the thing is that the default colors in f-spot is much nicer than with > ufraw. That's more an issue with the settings you choose in ufraw. I think f-spot just displays the embedded preview of the CR2 which was created by the cam. If you'd choose the same parameters in ufraw as the cam used, the results should be almost identical (but for the internal sharpening, which ufraw doesn't do). But I aggree it would be nice to have RAW->JPEG conversion better integrated into f-spot. I'd esp. like to have the resulting JPEG/PNG/whatever as a version of the RAW. Currently I add the resulting JPEG to f-spot and get an extra file this way... (But I'd still like to use an external tool as I think about purchasing bibble.) Just my 2¢, Carsten -- God's Final Message to His Creation: "We apologize for the inconvenience." (Douglas Adams: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish) From andreas.henden@vice-chairman.net Sat Jun 24 12:53:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDA23B01BE for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:53:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26384-06 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gordons.ginandtonic.no (gordons.ginandtonic.no [195.159.29.69]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB4F3B017E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host-81-191-129-68.bluecom.no ([81.191.129.68] helo=skrue.andeby) by gordons.ginandtonic.no with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1FuBNe-0002j2-0L for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:53:10 +0200 Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg From: Andreas Henden To: f-spot-list In-Reply-To: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:52:41 +0200 Message-Id: <1151167961.6113.14.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.433 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.031, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.433 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:53:49 -0000 hmm, why did I write saveing. It is of course saving.... On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 16:39 +0200, Andreas Henden wrote: > Hi > > I want sometimes to convert some of my cr2 files into jpg for sending by > mail or something like that. I have used gimp but I can't seem to get so > nice colors with gimp that is the default setting in f-spot. So I'm > asking for two things. Will there be any function for converting from > cr2 too jpg and or is there any way to get the same result with any > command line tool or any other tool with not too much effort! > > -- Andreas Henden From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Mon Jun 26 01:11:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10FA93B00A9 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:11:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22744-06 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:11:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9AA3B010B for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:11:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c29so856906nfb for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.223.13 with SMTP id v13mr4531484nfg; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C1E126.access.telenet.be ( [84.193.225.38]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l38sm2331799nfc.2006.06.25.22.10.59; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Good luck From: Thomas Van Machelen To: f-spot Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:10:59 +0200 Message-Id: <1151298659.5102.4.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.174 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.226, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.174 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 05:11:04 -0000 Hi Larry, Good luck this afternoon with the f-spot talk. I think we're all eager to hear about how well you did ;-) Best Regards, Thomas From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Mon Jun 26 09:29:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38EE3B0369 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20838-07 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F76C3B017B for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:29:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so826232uge for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.244.10 with SMTP id r10mr4973148ugh; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606260629g326d3cfem9ce1503749d57f38@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:29:13 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg In-Reply-To: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.765 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.635, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.765 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:29:16 -0000 On 6/24/06, Andreas Henden wrote: > the thing is that the default colors in f-spot is much nicer than with > ufraw. Which means that you need to setup UFRaw properly :) Consider this: white balance presets, base curve, gamma and linearity, color matrix on/off, input ICC-profile. Alexandre From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Mon Jun 26 09:30:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33D13B035F for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20890-09 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A2A3B009A for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so826983uge for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.8 with SMTP id d8mr4976101ugm; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606260630g69b5775fhfb6b3054cc383e33@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:30:43 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> <1151167012.6113.12.camel@skrue.andeby> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.828 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.572, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.828 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:30:46 -0000 On 6/24/06, Carsten Schurig wrote: > Currently I add the resulting JPEG to f-spot and get an extra file > this way... (But I'd still like to > use an external tool as I think about purchasing bibble.) Which means that we need a possibility to make a file a version of another one. Alexandre From andreas.henden@vice-chairman.net Mon Jun 26 13:22:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345F23B0330 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:22:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03046-01 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:22:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gordons.ginandtonic.no (gordons.ginandtonic.no [195.159.29.69]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE853B036C for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:22:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host-81-191-129-68.bluecom.no ([81.191.129.68] helo=skrue.andeby) by gordons.ginandtonic.no with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1FuunL-0004o4-3l; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:22:43 +0200 Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg From: Andreas Henden To: Alexandre Prokoudine In-Reply-To: <733f2c730606260629g326d3cfem9ce1503749d57f38@mail.gmail.com> References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <733f2c730606260629g326d3cfem9ce1503749d57f38@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:22:12 +0200 Message-Id: <1151342532.6611.3.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.441 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.023, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.441 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:22:59 -0000 On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 17:29 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On 6/24/06, Andreas Henden wrote: > > the thing is that the default colors in f-spot is much nicer than with > > ufraw. > > Which means that you need to setup UFRaw properly :) > > Consider this: white balance presets, base curve, gamma and linearity, > color matrix on/off, input ICC-profile. Things got much better after I got the right input profile. The hard part is setting up UFRaw porperly. Does f-spot calculate any values or does it use pre defined values? > > Alexandre > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > -- Andreas Henden From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Mon Jun 26 14:10:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80ACE3B036C for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:10:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06066-03 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:10:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2DC3B0161 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:10:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so960928uge for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.89.5 with SMTP id r5mr5228121ugl; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606261110s2ddc8f01qffeeb29bdc2feafe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:10:08 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg In-Reply-To: <1151342532.6611.3.camel@skrue.andeby> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <733f2c730606260629g326d3cfem9ce1503749d57f38@mail.gmail.com> <1151342532.6611.3.camel@skrue.andeby> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.881 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.519, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.881 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:10:11 -0000 On 6/26/06, Andreas Henden wrote: > Things got much better after I got the right input profile. The hard > part is setting up UFRaw porperly. Does f-spot calculate any values or > does it use pre defined values? It loads JPEG preview from Makernote area (if I'm not mistaken), so no calculation whatsoever for now :) Larry said before, that RAW processing has very high priority in his todo list, one of highest. Alexandre From nmarais@snowisp.com Mon Jun 26 16:11:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA24E3B00AB for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12499-06 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:11:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ctb-mesg8.saix.net (ctb-mesg8.saix.net [196.25.240.78]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE0A3B01DC for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from office.snowballeffect.net (dsl-146-194-202.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.194.202]) by ctb-mesg8.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303373184 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:11:00 +0200 (SAST) Received: (qmail 4114 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2006 00:50:09 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.20.130.19?) (10.20.130.19) by 192.168.20.58 with (RC4-MD5 encrypted) SMTP; 27 Jun 2006 00:50:09 +0200 Subject: Re: Big Collections/Complex Meta-data/Is F-Spot (going to be) for me? From: Neilen Marais To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1150804124.5909.60.camel@localhost> References: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1150804124.5909.60.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:10:51 +0200 Message-Id: <1151352651.18919.121.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:11:12 -0000 Hi Stephane On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 13:48 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > You can CC your email address to follow the discussion about them. Will do, thanks. > I like the idea of displaying more info about the selection (items per > tag, ...). You can probably submit a enhancement request in bugzilla and > attach a mockup of the UI. I'll see if I can come up with something... > As always in F-Spot, the problem is not > writing code to solve an issue, it's about writing good code and give > the user a nice experience. Yes, it shows. That's no doubt why F-Spot seems so nice to use :) Regards Neilen From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Tue Jun 27 07:43:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24823B00B3 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:43:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26554-06 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:42:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A3A3B00AB for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:42:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1304318uge for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.243.2 with SMTP id q2mr5970204ugh; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606270442j1be3d318mcea026affb62bb86@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:42:28 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <15179.194.237.142.21.1150786953.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <15179.194.237.142.21.1150786953.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.92 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.480, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.92 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:43:01 -0000 On 6/20/06, Bengt Thuree wrote: > To have the same material in many places will just cause a lot of > problems. On the other hand, having reviews of F-Spot, or links to F-Spot > in many places would be very nice. So, do we create new FAQ page and add it to the menu and grant Jordan rights to edit it? Alexandre From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 03:59:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0E93B028E for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 03:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02351-06 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 03:59:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE273B0249 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 03:59:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id q29so117057nfc for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.117.10 with SMTP id p10mr77693huc; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606300059p7c2d036bjd2cd530116e0c3c2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:59:43 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Crash report MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.272 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.103, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_GD=0.077, TW_GT=0.077, TW_TK=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.272 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:59:57 -0000 I was trying to export some photos and clicked on Add Album. I clicked on this after I had clicked Start, so that may or may not be relevant. This was the crash output: An unhandled exception was thrown: Object reference not set to an instance of an object An unhandled exception was thrown: Object reference not set to an instance of an object in <0x00015> FSpot.GalleryExport:HandleAddAlbum (System.Object sender, System.EventArgs args) in (wrapper delegate-invoke) System.MulticastDelegate:invoke_void_object_EventArgs (object,System.EventArgs) in <0x00093> GLib.Signal:voidObjectCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr gch) in (wrapper native-to-managed) GLib.Signal:voidObjectCallback (intptr,intptr) in <0x00000> in (wrapper managed-to-native) Gtk.Application:gtk_main () in <0x00007> Gtk.Application:Run () in <0x00007> Gnome.Program:Run () in <0x00542> FSpot.Driver:Main (System.String[] args) .NET Version: 1.1.4322.2032 Assembly Version Information: libgphoto2-sharp (1.0.2334.23664) System.Xml (1.0.5000.0) FlickrNet (1.1.0.0) System.Web (1.0.5000.0) gconf-sharp (2.8.0.0) pango-sharp (2.8.0.0) SemWeb (0.5.0.2) glade-sharp (2.8.0.0) gtkhtml-sharp (2.8.0.0) System.Data (1.0.5000.0) Mono.Data.SqliteClient (1.0.5000.0) gdk-sharp (2.8.0.0) Mono.Posix (1.0.5000.0) gnome-vfs-sharp (2.8.0.0) dbus-sharp (0.60.0.0) System (1.0.5000.0) atk-sharp (2.8.0.0) gtk-sharp (2.8.0.0) glib-sharp (2.8.0.0) gnome-sharp (2.8.0.0) f-spot (0.0.0.0) mscorlib (1.0.5000.0) Platform Information: Linux 2.6.15-25-386 i686 unknown GNU/Linux Disribution Information: [/etc/debian_version] testing/unstable [/etc/lsb-release] DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=6.06 DISTRIB_CODENAME=dapper DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 6.06 LTS" Dotan Cohen http:.//what-is-what.com From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 10:17:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694843B03A3 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:17:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24779-10 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:17:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33DCF3B03AD for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:17:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id t5so291232wxc for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.26.17 with SMTP id 17mr685481wxz; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.80.10 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:17:26 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: "Warren Baird" Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag In-Reply-To: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.201 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.122, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_XM=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.201 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:17:28 -0000 On 24/06/06, Warren Baird wrote: > There's no mechanism to do this automatically - however, there are some > patches for bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 that > will make this relatively easy --- the patch I submitted against the bug > will take simple xmp-like "sidecar" files at import and create tags for > them. > > Basically you need to write a script that creates for every file > foo.jpg, a file called foo.jpg.xmp - the contents should look like this: > > xmlns:rdf='http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#' > xmlns:iX='http://ns.adobe.com/iX/1.0/' > xmlns:dc='http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/'> > > > > Tag 1 > Tag 2 > ... > Tag N > > > > > > Then with my patch, when you do the import, the tags will be created (if > necessary), and attached to each photo appropriately. > > Hope this helps. > > Warren Great work, Warren. Could you please explain the XML in a bit more detail? Specifically, I'd need to add tags for Keywords, People, Caption/Title, Description/Comments, and Places. Just as an example, how would the XML appear for a photo with: Keywords "key1" and "key2" People "person1", "person2", "person3" Caption "This is the Caption" Description "A short description." Place "place1" If I can see that, then I'm pretty sure that I can figure out the rest. Also, how do I patch F-spot? I am not a developer, and I've no experience in the matter. Thank you. Dotan Cohen From stephane@delcroix.org Fri Jun 30 10:33:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7D23B013F for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:33:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25674-06 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:33:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 618113B021F for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:33:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20700 invoked by uid 503); 30 Jun 2006 14:34:38 -0000 Received: from b7.ovh.net (HELO mail156.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.57) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2006 14:34:38 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2006 14:32:36 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2006 14:32:34 -0000 Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag From: Stephane Delcroix To: F-Spot list In-Reply-To: <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:33:26 +0200 Message-Id: <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/0.0/5.0/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.881 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.506, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, TW_XM=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -1.881 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:33:21 -0000 Dotan, You can't specify a tag hierarchy. (i.e. you can't say "People: me", "Place: home", you can just attach tags "me" and "home") But keep in mind that, in f-spot, all tags are unique. So, tag your images, and re-organize your tags once imported in f-spot. (move the tag "me" under "People" and "home" under "Places") about patching and compiling f-spot, look at: http://f-spot.org/How_To_Build On Fri, 2006-06-30 at 17:17 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 24/06/06, Warren Baird wrote: > > There's no mechanism to do this automatically - however, there are some > > patches for bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 that > > will make this relatively easy --- the patch I submitted against the bug > > will take simple xmp-like "sidecar" files at import and create tags for > > them. > > > > Basically you need to write a script that creates for every file > > foo.jpg, a file called foo.jpg.xmp - the contents should look like this: > > > > > xmlns:rdf='http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#' > > xmlns:iX='http://ns.adobe.com/iX/1.0/' > > xmlns:dc='http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/'> > > > > > > > > Tag 1 > > Tag 2 > > ... > > Tag N > > > > > > > > > > > > Then with my patch, when you do the import, the tags will be created (if > > necessary), and attached to each photo appropriately. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Warren > > Great work, Warren. Could you please explain the XML in a bit more > detail? Specifically, I'd need to add tags for Keywords, People, > Caption/Title, Description/Comments, and Places. Just as an example, > how would the XML appear for a photo with: > Keywords "key1" and "key2" > People "person1", "person2", "person3" > Caption "This is the Caption" > Description "A short description." > Place "place1" > > If I can see that, then I'm pretty sure that I can figure out the > rest. Also, how do I patch F-spot? I am not a developer, and I've no > experience in the matter. Thank you. > > Dotan Cohen > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > -- Stephane Delcroix stephane@delcroix.org From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 10:47:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC213B0245 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:47:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26647-01 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.236]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F083B021F for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i7so300108wra for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.118.13 with SMTP id q13mr664769wrc; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.80.10 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606300747p1a39c168ja4517be7a5190725@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:47:44 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: "Stephane Delcroix" Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag In-Reply-To: <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.383 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.017, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.383 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:47:46 -0000 On 30/06/06, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Dotan, > > You can't specify a tag hierarchy. (i.e. you can't say "People: me", > "Place: home", you can just attach tags "me" and "home") > But keep in mind that, in f-spot, all tags are unique. > So, tag your images, and re-organize your tags once imported in f-spot. > (move the tag "me" under "People" and "home" under "Places") > > about patching and compiling f-spot, look at: > http://f-spot.org/How_To_Build Thank you, Stephane. So, the tags I descibed would give: key1 key2 person1 person2 person3 This is the Caption A short description. place1 Or would there be a better way of going about it? Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 15:17:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942083B03B1 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:17:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08071-01 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:16:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D183B03AD for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:16:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i26so270827wxd for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.26.16 with SMTP id 16mr1133141wxz; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.80.10 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606301216i386302a5m16b35746c0e4ac52@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 22:16:56 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: "Stephane Delcroix" Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag In-Reply-To: <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.154 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_GD=0.077, TW_GT=0.077, TW_TK=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.154 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:17:00 -0000 On 30/06/06, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > about patching and compiling f-spot, look at: > http://f-spot.org/How_To_Build I get to the point of "./f-spot --uninstalled", and then Fspot opens and I get this: An unhandled exception was thrown: /home/dotancohen/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/libfspot.so.0 in (wrapper managed-to-native) FSpot.ImageView:f_image_view_new () in <0x00032> FSpot.ImageView:.ctor () in <0x0001c> FSpot.PhotoImageView:.ctor (IBrowsableCollection query) in <0x00231> FSpot.PhotoView:.ctor (IBrowsableCollection query) in <0x0132e> MainWindow:.ctor (.Db db) in <0x0002a> FSpot.Core:get_MainWindow () in <0x0000c> FSpot.Core:Organize () in <0x00628> FSpot.Driver:Main (System.String[] args) .NET Version: 1.1.4322.2032 Assembly Version Information: FlickrNet (1.1.0.0) gconf-sharp (2.8.0.0) pango-sharp (2.8.0.0) SemWeb (0.5.0.2) glade-sharp (2.8.0.0) gtkhtml-sharp (2.8.0.0) System.Data (1.0.5000.0) Mono.Data.SqliteClient (1.0.5000.0) gdk-sharp (2.8.0.0) gnome-vfs-sharp (2.8.0.0) dbus-sharp (0.60.0.0) System (1.0.5000.0) Mono.Posix (1.0.5000.0) atk-sharp (2.8.0.0) gtk-sharp (2.8.0.0) glib-sharp (2.8.0.0) gnome-sharp (2.8.0.0) f-spot (0.0.0.0) mscorlib (1.0.5000.0) Platform Information: Linux 2.6.15-25-386 i686 unknown GNU/Linux Disribution Information: [/etc/debian_version] testing/unstable [/etc/lsb-release] DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=6.06 DISTRIB_CODENAME=dapper DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 6.06 LTS" Is it safe to continue? What must I do? Dotan Cohen http://ie-only.com From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 16:00:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2BE3B01BF for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:00:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10252-09 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:00:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.200]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462533B007B for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:00:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i26so275864wxd for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.20.18 with SMTP id 18mr1198588wxt; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.80.10 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606301300u5c5691b0w7bc65085b7e0a6fb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:00:27 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag In-Reply-To: <1151696141.6043.2.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301216i386302a5m16b35746c0e4ac52@mail.gmail.com> <1151696141.6043.2.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.282 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.118, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.282 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:00:30 -0000 On 30/06/06, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Personally, I never use f-spot --uninstalled... > > I always do a make install after make. but if you're already unsing > f-spot, take care of making a backup(of the photos.db) before running > the modified version. > > how to compile: > get f-spot cvs > cd f-spot > patch -p0 < thepatch.diff > ./autogen.sh > make > su > make install > exit > > Stephane > I already autogen'ed. Should I save the path at: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=66515&action=view in a file called thepatch.diff, then run "patch -p0 < thepatch.diff" and then ./autogen.sh again? Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://essentialinux.com From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 16:05:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49DA3B00F1 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:05:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10704-07 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:05:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD4B3B03AD for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:05:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i26so276436wxd for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.61.19 with SMTP id j19mr1209211wxa; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.80.10 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606301305t336161fx5efaf1ef836ed5cb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:05:32 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: "Stephane Delcroix" , "F-Spot list" Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag In-Reply-To: <1151696141.6043.2.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301216i386302a5m16b35746c0e4ac52@mail.gmail.com> <1151696141.6043.2.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.302 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.098, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.302 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:05:34 -0000 Well, I took the initiative and tried to apply the patch as I described before. This is what I got: dotancohen@ubuntu:~/development/f-spot/f-spot$ patch -p0 < thepatch.diff patching file ChangeLog Hunk #1 FAILED at 1. 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file ChangeLog.rej patching file src/FileImportBackend.cs Hunk #1 FAILED at 3. Hunk #2 succeeded at 14 (offset 1 line). Hunk #3 succeeded at 100 (offset 3 lines). Hunk #4 succeeded at 185 with fuzz 1 (offset 7 lines). Hunk #5 FAILED at 195. Hunk #6 succeeded at 269 (offset 23 lines). Hunk #7 succeeded at 285 (offset 23 lines). 2 out of 7 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file src/FileImportBackend.cs.rej patching file src/ImportCommand.cs Hunk #8 FAILED at 737. Hunk #9 succeeded at 764 (offset 5 lines). 1 out of 9 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file src/ImportCommand.cs.rej patching file src/Makefile.am patching file src/XmpTagsImporter.cs patching file src/XmpTagsMetadata.cs dotancohen@ubuntu:~/development/f-spot/f-spot$ cat ChangeLog.rej *************** *** 1,3 **** 2006-05-04 Arangel Angov * configure.in: Added 'mk.po' to ALL_LINGUAS --- 1,16 ---- + 2006-05-25 Bengt Thuree + + * src/XmpTagsMetadata.cs: Reads the XMP tags from a photo during import + + * src/XmpTagsImporter.cs: Creates XMP tags during import + + * src/FileImportBackend.cs: Calls XmpTagsImporter during import. + + * src/Makefile.am: Added XmpTagsMetadata.cs and XmpTagsImporter.cs + + * src/ImportCommand.cs: disable DisplayTags since otherwise we get a crash. + Cancel do not seem to remove all... + 2006-05-04 Arangel Angov * configure.in: Added 'mk.po' to ALL_LINGUAS dotancohen@ubuntu:~/development/f-spot/f-spot$ cat src/ImportCommand.cs.rej *************** *** 735,741 **** if (collection == null) return false; - DoImport (new FileImportBackend (store, pathimport, copy, recurse, null)); return false; } --- 737,743 ---- if (collection == null) return false; + DoImport (new FileImportBackend (this.Dialog, store, pathimport, copy, recurse, null)); return false; } dotancohen@ubuntu:~/development/f-spot/f-spot$ From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 30 17:36:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0314F3B03CD for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16392-05 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:36:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC643B036E for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:36:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5ULaQrw005604; Sat, 1 Jul 2006 07:36:26 +1000 Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606301305t336161fx5efaf1ef836ed5cb@mail.gmail.com> References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301216i386302a5m16b35746c0e4ac52@mail.gmail.com> <1151696141.6043.2.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301305t336161fx5efaf1ef836ed5cb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 07:36:24 +1000 Message-Id: <1151703385.5595.9.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.536 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.064, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.536 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:36:40 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-30 at 23:05 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Well, I took the initiative and tried to apply the patch as I > described before. This is what I got: > dotancohen@ubuntu:~/development/f-spot/f-spot$ patch -p0 < thepatch.diff > patching file ChangeLog > Hunk #1 FAILED at 1. > * configure.in: Added 'mk.po' to ALL_LINGUAS > --- 1,16 ---- > + 2006-05-25 Bengt Thuree > + > + * src/XmpTagsMetadata.cs: Reads the XMP tags from a photo during import Hi Dotan, Will Warrens patch apply directly? The one you took, was the latest patch which I had modified, and I am pretty certain Warrens suggestion should still work with this patch, but not 100% sure. The patch errors you get from my patch (and possible also something similar from Warrens patch) will have to be manually fixed by you. Key file to fix is ImportCommand.cs and FileImportBackend.cs You can simply open the CS file in an editor, and open the Patch.diff file in another editor, and manually go through every "patch" for the CS file. You will find most have been applied, but some are missing (reason is that the code have changed a bit in the general area where the patch should be applied so it can not be automatically applied). Stephane did mention it was simple to fix, so I have not done it. If you still have problems, let me know and I will try to update my patch. Warrens patch, if you want to try his is located here. (the first attachement to that bug) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=65865&action=view Regarding your Run time error, have you run F-Spot before? Do you have any existing photos? Have you tagged photos already with F-Spot? If not, try to delete the ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db and run it again. /Bengt From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 17:59:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4A43B01AB for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:59:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17934-03 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:59:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.239]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189533B00CA for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:59:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i7so351686wra for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.127.1 with SMTP id z1mr1089901wrc; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.26.6.5? ( [216.95.183.94]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 7sm1309896wrl.2006.06.30.14.59.23; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44A59EBA.5030105@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:59:22 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bengt Thuree Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301216i386302a5m16b35746c0e4ac52@mail.gmail.com> <1151696141.6043.2.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301305t336161fx5efaf1ef836ed5cb@mail.gmail.com> <1151703385.5595.9.camel@workie.thuree.com> In-Reply-To: <1151703385.5595.9.camel@workie.thuree.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.436 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.036, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.436 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:59:26 -0000 Bengt Thuree wrote:> > The patch errors you get from my patch (and possible also something > similar from Warrens patch) will have to be manually fixed by you. It's vaguely cruel and unusual to ask a non-dev type to fix these kinda things! Dotan - I assume you are working with current CVS head. I'll grab Bengt's patch now, and see if I can get a version of it that applies cleanly against current CVS. Hopefully I can post it in a few hours... Warren From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 18:08:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843B53B04C7 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:08:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18215-10 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:08:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.233]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF8843B048D for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:08:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i7so352488wra for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.83.8 with SMTP id g8mr1039146wrb; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.26.6.5? ( [216.95.183.94]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g7sm1719532wra.2006.06.30.15.08.26; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44A5A0D9.209@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:08:25 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dotan Cohen Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> <880dece00606300747p1a39c168ja4517be7a5190725@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <880dece00606300747p1a39c168ja4517be7a5190725@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.44 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.040, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.44 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 22:08:34 -0000 Dotan Cohen wrote: > Thank you, Stephane. So, the tags I descibed would give: >[...] > This is the Caption > A short description. >[...] Well - almost. Unfortunately, caption/descriptions aren't handled like tags. I've gotta leave work now - but I'll try to give a better description of how to specify those kinds of details later... Warren From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 18:18:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538703B04B5 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18807-04 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.204]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902073B04CC for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:18:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id t5so360191wxc for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.117.20 with SMTP id p20mr1390487wxc; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.80.10 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606301518l7995415drf470a9a4c82e9955@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 01:18:50 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: "F-Spot list" Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag In-Reply-To: <1151703385.5595.9.camel@workie.thuree.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301216i386302a5m16b35746c0e4ac52@mail.gmail.com> <1151696141.6043.2.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301305t336161fx5efaf1ef836ed5cb@mail.gmail.com> <1151703385.5595.9.camel@workie.thuree.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.685 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.558, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, INFO_TLD=1.273, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.685 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 22:18:58 -0000 On 01/07/06, Bengt Thuree wrote: > Hi Dotan, > > Will Warrens patch apply directly? > The one you took, was the latest patch which I had modified, and I am > pretty certain Warrens suggestion should still work with this patch, but > not 100% sure. I rm'ed the two directories and started over with Warren's patch, that one also would not patch the current cvs. And I was unsuccessful about patching by hand. > The patch errors you get from my patch (and possible also something > similar from Warrens patch) will have to be manually fixed by you. > Key file to fix is ImportCommand.cs and FileImportBackend.cs > You can simply open the CS file in an editor, and open the Patch.diff > file in another editor, and manually go through every "patch" for the CS > file. You will find most have been applied, but some are missing (reason > is that the code have changed a bit in the general area where the patch > should be applied so it can not be automatically applied). Stephane did > mention it was simple to fix, so I have not done it. If you still have > problems, let me know and I will try to update my patch. > > Warrens patch, if you want to try his is located here. (the first > attachement to that bug) > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=65865&action=view > > Regarding your Run time error, have you run F-Spot before? Do you have > any existing photos? Have you tagged photos already with F-Spot? > If not, try to delete the ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db and run it again. The last time that I had run fspot I got a similar meassage. I posted it here to the list, as the error specifically requested me to do so, yesterday or today. Dotan Cohen http://auto-car.info From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 19:58:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310FE3B04EE for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:58:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22938-03 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:58:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.206]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52793B0297 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:58:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id o1so517713nzf for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.205.7 with SMTP id h7mr1647815qbq; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q13sm1388110qbq.2006.06.30.16.58.37; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44A5BAB1.90209@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:58:41 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dotan Cohen Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301216i386302a5m16b35746c0e4ac52@mail.gmail.com> <1151696141.6043.2.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301305t336161fx5efaf1ef836ed5cb@mail.gmail.com> <1151703385.5595.9.camel@workie.thuree.com> <44A59EBA.5030105@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> In-Reply-To: <44A59EBA.5030105@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.451 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.128, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_XM=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.451 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:58:40 -0000 Warren Baird wrote: > Dotan - I assume you are working with current CVS head. I'll grab > Bengt's patch now, and see if I can get a version of it that applies > cleanly against current CVS. I took a closer look, and my original patch applies fine --- I think Bengt is right, it's probably easier to just work with my patch... I also figured out how to import a comment. My patch takes the photoshop "Headline" tag and puts it in the comment field. to do this, you should add the photoshop namespace by adding the string xmlns:photoshop="http://ns.adobe.com/photoshop/1.0/" to your xmpmeta line, and then adding This is my commment inside your field. Here's a fully populated chunk as an example: This is where the Saskatchwan River forks in the north and south Saskatchwan rivers. The Forks sask 2005 Travel Great Hope this helps! Warren From douglasjanderson@gmail.com Wed Jun 28 00:20:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25DE3B0011 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:20:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26924-01 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:20:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE60A3B0005 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:20:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c29so1172503nfb for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.19.7 with SMTP id w7mr243516nfi; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.157.18 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4511e6e80606272119t4a9b151apc3c9522faa227b35@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:19:31 -0400 From: "Douglas Anderson" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: http://f-spot.org/To_Do MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_622_14034199.1151468371058" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.414 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_40_50=0.496, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.414 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 21:17:42 -0400 X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 04:20:36 -0000 ------=_Part_622_14034199.1151468371058 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On http://f-spot.org/To_Do > The current EXIF display is too EXIF specific and extremely dull, The > layout needs to be redone and the the Items should be ordered by relative > importance. First sentence should be cleaned up a little bit. Not sure if "Items" was capetalized on purpose? The current EXIF display is too EXIF specific and extremely dull, the layout > needs to be redone and the items should be ordered by relative importance. ------=_Part_622_14034199.1151468371058 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On http://f-spot.org/To_Do
The current EXIF display is too EXIF specific and extremely dull, The layout needs to be redone and the the Items should be ordered by relative importance.

First sentence should be cleaned up a little bit. Not sure if "Items" was capetalized on purpose?

The current EXIF display is too EXIF specific and extremely dull, the layout needs to be redone and the items should be ordered by relative importance.

------=_Part_622_14034199.1151468371058-- From drberg1000@gmail.com Thu Jun 1 16:52:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958A93B0F4A for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:52:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06048-01 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:52:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hu-out-0102.google.com (hu-out-0102.google.com [72.14.214.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3787B3B0ED4 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:52:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by hu-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 34so247599hud for ; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=NEGjo8B1W4NOeZWtu5DW/YakZNml0x/lbol/wmYlvQRwF8F/Pnn7fOGI1ReFkcUpUx/N7cv6Gzz1em5R8EZDrVmlxaAxMKgjCqNHKLTQCUOKO6YFgYWoMcwjqhLliGkH/D6IBiA3/woQRJsvNrBZoEAJdXFx3ARxQyXhMVSp014= Received: by 10.35.76.9 with SMTP id d9mr1612366pyl; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.86.11 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:52:45 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Rotation descriptions X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 20:52:48 -0000 I'm wondering why "Rotate Left" and "Rotate Right" were chosen to describe the commands instead of "Rotate Clockwise" and "Rotate Counterclockwise". The best I can guess is length of the words. If thats the case, here's a little antecdotal feed back on usability. It wasn't until I was half through writing this e-mail that I noticed the small little icons noted which direction the image would be rotated. I am having a difficult time remembering if it is the top of the photo or the bottom of the photo that moves. Personally, I think it would be clearer if a larger arrow and/or Clockwise/Counterclockwise were used. Just my $0.02 --Dave From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Thu Jun 1 18:53:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64483B0061 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:53:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11537-10 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:53:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E693B0072 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:53:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so283419uge for ; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=h05J7wusko7OClEUYg5fXPI0GaXbUNidt/pmzwguU8WHvw+Dm2D0/dTlJXp1XeHpqS8v0I1HiLEafebe2XUTZDctNPvMdpNR8UCHizTUIZd0GNeu8nLqLPegyiUjyRf4on8+C8n/DfyFj92omS7JeF3wwlzRwdpnQVBC9Agax6E= Received: by 10.67.105.19 with SMTP id h19mr207408ugm; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606011553t6fe9beccpa31aea24fab46df9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 02:53:32 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.056 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.056 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Rotation descriptions X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 22:53:37 -0000 On 6/2/06, David Berg wrote: > I'm wondering why "Rotate Left" and "Rotate Right" were chosen to > describe the commands instead of "Rotate Clockwise" and "Rotate > Counterclockwise". The best I can guess is length of the words. If > thats the case, here's a little antecdotal feed back on usability. > > It wasn't until I was half through writing this e-mail that I noticed > the small little icons noted which direction the image would be > rotated. I am having a difficult time remembering if it is the top of > the photo or the bottom of the photo that moves. Personally, I think > it would be clearer if a larger arrow and/or > Clockwise/Counterclockwise were used. Indeed. They are usually cut to Rotate CW and Rotate CCW. And we can still provide hints for menu items to explain what CW/CCW mean for those who doesn't know. Alexandre From stephane@delcroix.org Fri Jun 2 10:07:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24413B1144 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:07:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30984-09 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:07:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 26.mail-out.ovh.net (26.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.42.179]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEAA43B10B6 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:06:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12848 invoked by uid 503); 2 Jun 2006 14:06:59 -0000 Received: (QMFILT: 1.0); 02 Jun 2006 14:06:59 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail44.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 26.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2006 14:06:59 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2006 14:06:50 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2006 14:06:48 -0000 From: Stephane Delcroix To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:08:21 +0200 Message-Id: <1149257301.7904.10.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.951 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.513, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -1.951 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Bug 318376 =?utf-8?b?4oCT?= JPEG saving ignores original quality X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:07:09 -0000 Do not choose default for the user anymore... just try to guess the original compression factor ! I've submitted a patch, based on jpegdump, adding that ability to f-spot. the bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318376 the comment: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318376#c9 the patch: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=66658&action=view Regards, Stephane From drberg1000@gmail.com Fri Jun 2 16:07:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3953B02BE for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:07:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21051-09 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9213B0491 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id x31so1203953pye for ; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:07:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Dd1NExlSLCwENNgvGHiBKyq4GBjy1u9EDTVzZGfr8dRyg0Tfy+CDWxtNTc0+Rce2OCGeqeBhzjtgGYCuSi8LGN9IHypVYY0vEVKspoOxfbn3vIdUixBNiuS36NZcu+jSwtWDdi5ECcmKxlPqQaE/kndLzA2yCnU/IOuS99mGeMs= Received: by 10.35.49.4 with SMTP id b4mr2824500pyk; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.86.11 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 13:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 15:07:51 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.543 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.432, BAYES_05=-1.11, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.543 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 20:07:57 -0000 Is there a way to find photos containing "Tag X" AND "Tag Y" instead of the default OR search? It would be really nice to be able to write more complex queries. --Dave From fred@uh.cu Fri Jun 2 17:06:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0933B006F for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:06:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24674-04 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:06:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from proxy2.uh.cu (proxy2.uh.cu [200.55.139.213]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5123B042A for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:06:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy2.uh.cu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4D12FCEB for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:03:26 -0400 (AST) Received: from comuh.uh.cu (comuh.uh.cu [10.6.100.69]) by proxy2.uh.cu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C192FCE5 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:03:26 -0400 (AST) Received: from comuh (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by comuh.uh.cu (Postfix) with SMTP id 50CBB1680DE for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:58:37 -0400 (CDT) Received: from hogwarts.reduh.uh.cu (hogwarts.reduh.uh.cu [10.6.70.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EXP1024-RC4-SHA (56/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by comuh.uh.cu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337D91680D5 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:58:37 -0400 (CDT) From: Yoanis Gil Delgado Organization: Universidad de la Habana Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:05:48 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary-00=_wgKgEOjcTDYK+xh" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020300 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.923 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.676, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_10_20=1.351, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.923 X-Spam-Level: Subject: My first experiences with f-spot X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 21:06:50 -0000 --Boundary-00=_wgKgEOjcTDYK+xh Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi list!!! . My name is Yoanis Gil Delgado and I'm studying Computers Science at the University of Havana. I want to thanks all of you for this great software. I spent some time classifying my pictures and these are some stuffs i missed: 1-) Multiple picture selection. See 4) 2-) Undo actions. Note i mean "action" and not a "picture editing action". A very common mistake(for me) is to attach the wrong tag to a picture. I though Ctrl+Z would solve the problem, but it did not worked. 3-) Which tags are associated to a file. I know that in browse mode every image has an overlay set of related tags. But, let says the image "Rose, Joe and Mary.jpg" belongs to 3 categories (Joe,Rose and Mary). Each of these categories are child of the People's category (yes, those are people names). In this example the overlay shows the same icons for the 3 categories(People's tag icon). So there is no way to know the categories names the image belongs at the very first look. Still would like to see, when in browse mode, the categories name in some place. 4-) Tags shorcuts. Use case: Lets say i have 4 main tags 1-) Rose 2-) Joe 3-) Mary 4-) Me and a collection of 100 photos of them. Among those i can find photos from Rose and Joe, Mary and Rose, Joe and Me and so on. In the version i'm using(0.1.11), i needed to make a lot of clicks to classify them. It would be nice if there is a way to assign a shortcut to every tag, so when i can tag images by making clicks. P.D: Sorry for the big talk and i hope i can put some code soon. --Boundary-00=_wgKgEOjcTDYK+xh Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi list!!! . My name is Yoanis Gil Delgado and I'm studying Computers Science at the University of Havana. I want to thanks all of you for this great software.

I spent some time classifying my pictures and these are some stuffs i missed:

1-) Multiple picture selection. See 4)

2-) Undo actions. Note i mean "action" and not a "picture editing action". A very common mistake(for me) is to attach the wrong tag to a picture. I though Ctrl+Z would solve the problem, but it did not worked.

3-) Which tags are associated to a file. I know that in browse mode every image has an overlay set of related tags. But, let says the image "Rose, Joe and Mary.jpg" belongs to 3 categories (Joe,Rose and Mary). Each of these categories are child of the People's category (yes, those are people names). In this example the overlay shows the same icons for the 3 categories(People's tag icon). So there is no way to know the categories names the image belongs at the very first look. Still would like to see, when in browse mode, the categories name in some place.

4-) Tags shorcuts. Use case:

Lets say i have 4 main tags

1-) Rose

2-) Joe

3-) Mary

4-) Me

and a collection of 100 photos of them. Among those i can find photos from Rose and Joe, Mary and Rose, Joe and Me and so on. In the version i'm using(0.1.11), i needed to make a lot of clicks to classify them. It would be nice if there is a way to assign a shortcut to every tag, so when i can tag images by making clicks.

P.D: Sorry for the big talk and i hope i can put some code soon.

--Boundary-00=_wgKgEOjcTDYK+xh-- From m.j.hutchinson@gmail.com Fri Jun 2 19:40:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37803B11CC for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:40:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31640-09 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:40:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6263B047B for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:40:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l37so1214960nfc for ; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:40:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iiVu5uNrvJwp3bSGHpJY9ba46wGigTLj4d0CNKf3K9X9qjj7f45EEOk/NXQZkkmcWjP5YcNM016eCNZLvxOhR0kf7shx9vFtXvQBFNaIp6Y/AJDZYQsn6zX/X9lRXAjMGv4zM1lFWDLQ91EZiTPEHIQSPx9zA+FhdFWS+1VP4c4= Received: by 10.49.14.18 with SMTP id r18mr2342590nfi; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.40.5 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 00:40:48 +0100 From: "Michael Hutchinson" To: "Yoanis Gil Delgado" In-Reply-To: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.431 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.169, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.431 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: My first experiences with f-spot X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 23:40:50 -0000 On 6/2/06, Yoanis Gil Delgado wrote: > > 1-) Multiple picture selection. See 4) Use Ctrl+Click to add to the selection, or Shift+Click to select a range. I don't know is this is present in the version you're using, but it's in SVN. > using(0.1.11), i needed to make a lot of clicks to classify them. It would > be nice if there is a way to assign a shortcut to every tag, so when i can > tag images by making clicks. There are two shortcuts here. Hitting 't' will allow you to edit the tags on the selected photo by typing, and this has tab completion and will create new tags if they don't already exist. The other way is to use the right-clcik context menu. This is very useful, as it can be applied to a multiple selection. Michael From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 06:10:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0AF3B0605 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:10:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27673-08 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:10:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C063B0433 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:10:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l37so1263551nfc for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:10:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=QWg9R1s3upux3E3ZVxS8WnCj530RszgrW9kojhh/YwvEMOozpK7yB+76ECSsqqN3Sq+fUMnc7tlCpalOfmWoyMjWItSBMcv0VX7PkMp+G1R6b4+7EUf/rQRUUgwtfvrkhA7JhkOhuU+jONyXV9lAGw3BsSAUOni818nPjHnI20M= Received: by 10.49.61.17 with SMTP id o17mr2648993nfk; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C1EDBE.access.telenet.be ( [84.193.237.190]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g1sm3276320nfe.2006.06.03.03.10.24; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:10:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: David Berg In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:10:22 +0200 Message-Id: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.213 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.387, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.213 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 10:10:28 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 15:07 -0500, David Berg wrote: > Is there a way to find photos containing "Tag X" AND "Tag Y" instead > of the default OR search? It would be really nice to be able to write > more complex queries. > It is not in current CVS head, but there is a separate branch (F_SPOT_QUERY) that allows you to do more complex queries, among which the one you describe. Regards, Thomas From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 10:46:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14C83B03FF for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 10:46:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10344-02 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 10:46:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.238]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E0A3B0118 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 10:46:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so719730wri for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 07:46:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=kAmiNJHc+odyyiJiIsZi2t7K50yq9Rc5ISUrp6OiqU7WZyQ1LhpACnx5+rGi/Ev/KIW3q+knFN8yPnW5Nc29bQnWbjrIqfBbRiF7KPfbQmUqIrtu8gLlCR/TZUWzsPcTIi7kOw3nADqHVsZMp3wtA/ri4OwGCoBCzakzOTvSEO4= Received: by 10.64.142.19 with SMTP id p19mr2487044qbd; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 07:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e17sm774698qba.2006.06.03.07.46.09; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 07:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4481A0AF.6090401@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 10:46:07 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list References: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 14:46:11 -0000 Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > It is not in current CVS head, but there is a separate branch > (F_SPOT_QUERY) that allows you to do more complex queries, among which > the one you describe. Speaking of which - does anyone know what the current status is on getting that merged back into head? I really like the complex queries, but as I'm still submitting patches periodically, it's easier to work from head. Anything I can do to accelerate the process? Warren From lewing@novell.com Sat Jun 3 12:17:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A793B0712 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:17:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14666-09 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922623B073B for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13734 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2006 16:17:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Jun 2006 16:17:31 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Warren Baird In-Reply-To: <4481A0AF.6090401@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> References: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> <4481A0AF.6090401@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 11:25:23 -0500 Message-Id: <1149351924.3587.68.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.462 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.063, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.462 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list Subject: Re: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 16:17:33 -0000 I hoping to start merging things into head starting sometime this coming week after I get a chance to look over everything that has stacked up. Hopefully the query branch will follow soon after that. Thanks to everyone who has been reviewing and submitting patches, it has been great to see so much activity. --Larry On Sat, 2006-06-03 at 10:46 -0400, Warren Baird wrote: > Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > It is not in current CVS head, but there is a separate branch > > (F_SPOT_QUERY) that allows you to do more complex queries, among which > > the one you describe. > > Speaking of which - does anyone know what the current status is on > getting that merged back into head? I really like the complex queries, > but as I'm still submitting patches periodically, it's easier to work > from head. > > Anything I can do to accelerate the process? > > Warren > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list From sebwrede@googlemail.com Sat Jun 3 06:56:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F683B04A9 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:56:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29573-07 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:56:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD283B0614 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l37so1267637nfc for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:56:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=googlemail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=qkX8H0Sn8uyrgknDvJ4t+5BdAHoAaMxiaMgSHcX92vQBj23tpxzDTa63SDFN9gSnyyfil5p774LWHD47kvBBQvmE+WJerUegmaptcBFcbPm08mwJOg8npnuHgXeJPjVkcvHNeNY7hSfuiT7JZKO4HvY+Z/NUfxVfi2x2FBuaObA= Received: by 10.48.221.15 with SMTP id t15mr641087nfg; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ( [84.61.8.82]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1sm3283429nfe.2006.06.03.03.56.11; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:56:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Sebastian Wrede To: Thomas Van Machelen In-Reply-To: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> References: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:56:09 +0200 Message-Id: <1149332169.9401.14.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:30:23 -0400 Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 10:56:15 -0000 Dear Thomas, dear F-Spot-Developers, First of all, I'd like to congratulate all of you to the great software you developed so far! F-Spot is really cool and very competitive compared to other tools in that area. As David and Thomas brought the topic up, I would like to ask a question that puzzles me frequently... Why does the F-Spot query patch not get integrated into the main branch? IMHO it provides already a really useful improvement over the existing query features. Do you have separate plans for an enhancement of the query functionality or are there other issues with it? Best regards, Sebastian Am Samstag, den 03.06.2006, 12:10 +0200 schrieb Thomas Van Machelen: > It is not in current CVS head, but there is a separate branch > (F_SPOT_QUERY) that allows you to do more complex queries, among which > the one you describe. > > Regards, > Thomas > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From lewing@novell.com Sat Jun 3 12:37:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199283B05AE for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:37:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15977-01 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE4A3B02FE for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:37:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13743 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2006 16:37:04 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Jun 2006 16:37:04 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Stephane Delcroix In-Reply-To: <1149257301.7904.10.camel@localhost> References: <1149257301.7904.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 11:45:07 -0500 Message-Id: <1149353107.3587.74.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.462 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.063, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.462 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Bug 318376 =?windows-1251?q?=96?= JPEG saving ignores original quality X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 16:37:07 -0000 I've only scanned the patch so far, but it makes me wonder how much of the jpegdump code is actually used for the quality guessing. F-Spot already includes code to handle marker parsing and it might make sense to just extract the portion that scans coefficients and integrate it with the other code. --Larry On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 16:08 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Do not choose default for the user anymore... just try to guess the > original compression factor ! > > I've submitted a patch, based on jpegdump, adding that ability to > f-spot. > > the bug: > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318376 > > the comment: > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318376#c9 > > the patch: > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=66658&action=view > > > Regards, > > Stephane > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list From gabriel.burt@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 20:51:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5B03B0383 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:51:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06189-06 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53A93B0317 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i3so763046wra for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:51:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bwnnhpe3zxbYkwmnuaLdPtnuBU7E+tqbOn8u4aSS9ikcTy1fIg+gu1eH7IvIxj7WXHT3eLK6zu0/LxJg6u3NVHSktwOeoz4AAnPFO63hdep/HQLF4cX7CyRndTFqqNJzY3kUOb2/Y2NiTLrpaNch6ctE/VMPzKjfiZtxo2JIFbs= Received: by 10.54.140.8 with SMTP id n8mr936028wrd; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.105.3 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 17:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <24348e0606031751j481b5d84xb82ca4926b5bf9f5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 19:51:10 -0500 From: "Gabriel Burt" To: "Tys von Gaza" In-Reply-To: <7749526e0605021653p37309326vacde825683cf432@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <7749526e0605021653p37309326vacde825683cf432@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.338 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.262, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.338 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem make installing X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 00:51:13 -0000 On 5/2/06, Tys von Gaza wrote: > I've got f-spot compling on ubuntu dapper but am running into the > following problem when running make install, any suggestions? > > Making install in po > make[1]: Entering directory `/home/tys/src/fspotcvs/f-spot/po' > make[1]: install_sh@: Command not found > make[1]: *** [install-data-yes] Error 127 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tys/src/fspotcvs/f-spot/po' > make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 Try doing sudo apt-get install build-essential Gabriel From gabriel.burt@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 20:52:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DF63B0383 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:52:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06566-03 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:52:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E7B3B00DF for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i3so763172wra for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:52:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ugI1/Z7LNnoQMDtF2kdSmXmMVm56AhNLgrA4LB0xrsEnFRfpv4ewoCJlfMqN2Nclg73MU3k8Cf7jx4ZZ9VEErdu4muS14jO5GPn6/sKu319m3lWobB5tvdt7bPBtTcyrCW9GSih+ZOqPw0Sveba/zPh2vGVZhMMJWik0rnE+8IE= Received: by 10.54.93.11 with SMTP id q11mr3486370wrb; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.105.3 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 17:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <24348e0606031752x550d2501g79bb93087d6726d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 19:52:41 -0500 From: "Gabriel Burt" To: "Frank Henderson" In-Reply-To: <4457837B.90604@twcny.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4457837B.90604@twcny.rr.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.351 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.249, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.351 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Uploading photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 00:52:43 -0000 On 5/2/06, Frank Henderson wrote: > Anybody got a suggestion as to why photos I send via email to individual > recipients don't arrive? Perhaps it's a problem with your mail client? Have you tried sending them to an address you can check to make sure it's not their client or misunderstanding? Gabriel From gabriel.burt@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 21:03:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724F83B0108 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 21:03:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06740-08 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 21:03:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.233]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65423B00DF for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 21:03:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i3so763886wra for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:03:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Eo9Ve9yzd40CCVkDG4O8wQzGTrLfLKFdm5rZI6NYOVXBck0rP0NBdB/66gqCwngfBCgX1/XmlCBcbBcomq5Gzy+hUWIngpPM7mW7r6SitB8eNKM4cXCFhOeoFrQ7vFqL6fnCYQ/KcHEq604MkA6lldOQh5oXuVFKTeMv4FH/Y1w= Received: by 10.54.80.16 with SMTP id d16mr3050549wrb; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.105.3 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 18:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <24348e0606031803h6493b93cof1a74f182c4b3fb8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:03:34 -0500 From: "Gabriel Burt" To: "Yoanis Gil Delgado" In-Reply-To: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.363 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.237, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.363 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: My first experiences with f-spot X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 01:03:39 -0000 On 6/2/06, Yoanis Gil Delgado wrote: > 2-) Undo actions. Note i mean "action" and not a "picture editing action". A > very common mistake(for me) is to attach the wrong tag to a picture. I > though Ctrl+Z would solve the problem, but it did not worked. Please file an enhancement bug report for this. > 3-) Which tags are associated to a file. I know that in browse mode every > image has an overlay set of related tags. But, let says the image "Rose, Joe > and Mary.jpg" belongs to 3 categories (Joe,Rose and Mary). Each of these > categories are child of the People's category (yes, those are people names). > In this example the overlay shows the same icons for the 3 > categories(People's tag icon). So there is no way to know the categories > names the image belongs at the very first look. Still would like to see, > when in browse mode, the categories name in some place. I believe the icon related portion of this bug has been reported at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332584 - though the naming part isn't. It is simple to pop up labels for the tags shown in Edit mode, but it is more difficult for Browse mode because the icons aren't drawn as separate widgets but onto a common canvas (I believe). This part of the issue probably has been reported in some other bug, though I'm not sure. Thanks for the ideas, they are appreciated. Gabriel From mercen@mercen.org Sun Jun 4 05:37:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1540B3B013C for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 05:37:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08301-08 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 05:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (smtp4-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.30]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49CAB3B00BD for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 05:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pu-erh (lns-bzn-26-82-254-105-206.adsl.proxad.net [82.254.105.206]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999E8547E8 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 11:37:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mercen by pu-erh with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Fmp3u-00072T-Qr for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 11:38:22 +0200 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 11:38:22 +0200 From: Thomas Paris To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060604093822.GD23532@pu-erh> Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org References: <1142363109.12790.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1142368032.8661.127.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1142631005.12801.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1148508089.13380.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1148508089.13380.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Compare photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 09:37:40 -0000 Hi James, Thanks for working on this feature. I've just given your patch a very quick try and I think, once it's ready, I'm gonna love it. On Wed May 24 at 23:01 (+0100), you wrote: > To use the compare view select two (or more) photos in icon view then > select the new full screen view icon (I'm not to sure how to make a new > icon just yet) with the "Compare photos" tip. Do we really need a new mode? Can't comparison be a special case of Edit? What I'm trying to say is that I believe it would be good enough to have only one button to go to both "normal" Edit Mode (EM) and Compare View (CV). If only one picture is selected then go to EM. If several have been selected then go to CV. How does that sound? Or maybe have Edit Mode itself be used for comparison? You might have guessed I don't like the demultiplication of modes and views ;) > Finally - is this even useful? Sure is! Thanks again for your work! Thomas PARIS -- http://mercen.org <- news http://mercen.org/gallery <- photos From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 4 09:35:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6EB3B0155 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:35:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19867-03 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F273B009F for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:35:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k54DZ9EH010655 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 4 Jun 2006 23:35:09 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: Tys von Gaza In-Reply-To: <7749526e0605021653p37309326vacde825683cf432@mail.gmail.com> References: <7749526e0605021653p37309326vacde825683cf432@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 23:35:11 +1000 Message-Id: <1149428112.10029.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem make installing X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 13:35:15 -0000 On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 17:53 -0600, Tys von Gaza wrote: > I've got f-spot compling on ubuntu dapper but am running into the > following problem when running make install, any suggestions? > > Making install in po > make[1]: Entering directory `/home/tys/src/fspotcvs/f-spot/po' > make[1]: install_sh@: Command not found > make[1]: *** [install-data-yes] Error 127 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tys/src/fspotcvs/f-spot/po' > make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 > _______________________________________________ I never managed to figure out the reason for this, but the quick and dirty workaround (which needs to be re-applied every now and then), is to add the absolut path to install-sh in po/Makefile. In my case install_sh = /home/bengt/CVS/f-spot/f-spot/install-sh From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Sun Jun 4 20:28:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587BC3B0248 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:28:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21815-04 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:28:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52A43B029E for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:28:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so939442wri for ; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:28:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=PElp/4zEdhyVapmAJRrnypJALSF8r5wF+/xx5V14J6H9PSwSl/35HUvyc+2n8EdgQcfGFfEsDLPmbG29dVNJDWBw8yPlNM5xaOYBLsc++6HNSDsAOFkdzedVrU5XiyafUsrPaz2duJkpYRAVa1+G6qRvfGBiLU2kTDias/xqQ/E= Received: by 10.65.250.16 with SMTP id c16mr3034438qbs; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f13sm1779141qba.2006.06.04.17.28.45; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44837AB9.4070402@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 20:28:41 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Patch for pre-caching Images X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 00:28:48 -0000 Hi all, I've created a patch that enables pre-caching of the 'expected next' item in full-screen mode (and secondarily in 'edit-photo' mode as well). I couldn't find a bug to attach the patch to, so I created a new one: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343856 Basically, with the patch, f-spot tries to guess what image you are going to load next, and loads it in the background - if it completes the background load before you switch to the next image, then it redraws immediately, rather than doing the slow, progressive load thing. I'm interested in feedback on this from other people --- for me, it makes a *huge* difference when viewing images in full-screen mode... Warren From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 5 01:46:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11BC3B04C0 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 01:46:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05459-08 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 01:46:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF383B0297 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 01:46:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k555kZ5D001090 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 15:46:36 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 15:46:41 +1000 Message-Id: <1149486401.7586.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Subject: cannot install `libfspot.la' X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 05:46:41 -0000 Is it only me, or have something changed during the last few days? /Bengt > bengt@jolly:~/CVS/f-spot/f-spot$ ./autogen.sh --prefix=/opt/unstable/f-spot > make all install > > /bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs /opt/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot > /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=install /usr/bin/install -c libfspot.la /opt/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/libfspot.la > libtool: install: error: cannot install `libfspot.la' to a directory not ending in /usr/local/lib/f-spot > make[2]: *** [install-fspotlibLTLIBRARIES] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/bengt/CVS/f-spot/f-spot/libfspot' > make[1]: *** [install-am] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/bengt/CVS/f-spot/f-spot/libfspot' > make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 5 23:09:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665183B0074 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 23:09:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18950-01 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 23:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6AE3B0005 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 23:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5639KSU018437 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 13:09:22 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 13:09:30 +1000 Message-Id: <1149563370.7586.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Another small 2 liner patch (343970) X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 03:09:26 -0000 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343970 Rittyan found a bug where the time in browsemode is in local time, but the time in the info box is in UTC time. >From IRC session I think I found a bug... in our f-spot's browsers photo's date is 6:26 and 6:57... and on sidebar its 2:26 and 2:57... nothing about this "2:26" and "2:57" in metadata browser :< (real time of course is 6am) http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/5682/fspotbug6df.jpg Checking the InfoBox.cs code on row 271 gives: date_label.Text = String.Format ("{0}\n{1}", photo.Time.ToShortDateString (), photo.Time.ToShortTimeString ()); And checking IconView.cs on row 245 gives: if (cell_width > 200) { date = photo.Time.ToLocalTime ().ToString (); } else { date = photo.Time.ToLocalTime ().ToShortDateString (); } The patch I created is as follows: date_label.Text = String.Format ("{0}\n{1}", - photo.Time.ToShortDateString (), - photo.Time.ToShortTimeString ()); + photo.Time.ToLocalTime ().ToShortDateString (), + photo.Time.ToLocalTime ().ToShortTimeString ()); From drberg1000@gmail.com Wed Jun 7 13:33:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F057F3B0135 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 13:33:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00939-03 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 13:33:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111163B00C6 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 13:33:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id x31so357322pye for ; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:33:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=rrrDuk7thGbmxCaV+GpDgO64AwgBzkX9b2BdjNGQ+YeaRhQg7sVHAqTbP9GyoMI4x73agoWOBS1RAN6LBlGQGAyTvOFbtAD9JvKtMaW1DAOw/OoXLma0PVCI95fGE98Kj+Tau7HhLIEgBZG8kGg5+CXqpLKVW9q4INobBEeinhE= Received: by 10.35.40.10 with SMTP id s10mr1001021pyj; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.86.11 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 10:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 12:33:03 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.674 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.632, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.674 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 17:33:06 -0000 I just imported some photos from my camera which does not have any orientation information. I rotated the photos, then exported them to flickr. When viewing them on flickr they are not rotated. I also notice that when I view the image in the Metadata Browser the images are not rotated there. I do not have flickr "auto-magically" rotating images when they are uploaded. Am I missing something or is this a bug? From lewing@novell.com Wed Jun 7 14:02:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1C73B088A for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:02:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02871-10 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA533B0BDC for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17179 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2006 18:02:03 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jun 2006 18:02:03 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: David Berg In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 13:10:13 -0500 Message-Id: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.463 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.064, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.463 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 18:02:05 -0000 On the flickr site turn on the auto rotate option, that will let them display the way you expect there. F-Spot rotates jpegs by changing the exif orientation of the image because it is a small relatively safe modification. This produces an image just like what the camera would have produced if it did have an orientation sensor. I chose to do it this way because f-spot supports loading these images correctly and other rotation methods, lossless or otherwise, require much more drastic modifications to but the image and the metadata. The metadata dialog displays the thumbnail stored in the exif data which is always stored with the sensor orientation, so that is how you would expect it to look. That said, I will probably add an option to the preferences dialog to do rotation of the coefficients sometime in the near future because the code is already in f-spot for other reasons and some people prefer it. --Larry On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 12:33 -0500, David Berg wrote: > I just imported some photos from my camera which does not have any > orientation information. I rotated the photos, then exported them to > flickr. When viewing them on flickr they are not rotated. I also > notice that when I view the image in the Metadata Browser the images > are not rotated there. I do not have flickr "auto-magically" rotating > images when they are uploaded. > > Am I missing something or is this a bug? > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list From drberg1000@gmail.com Thu Jun 8 00:57:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43C33B031C for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 00:57:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07464-03 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 00:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB2A3B02B2 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 00:57:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id f25so417713pyf for ; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 21:57:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kyEBRFvWPiHV/Jy8sgVIKhVJJisyU/sOYSWSObFfmz4qeiiXfe9v6PGvBUYIpzK94x/19oUiiSJUfTZ2gQ3N1JRYyPC12ZlssbWPsJ+g2lLOHwypoZr2bAgwLLqh6OVDwW6pOLVGKlOVmycQ0AVkV+NPy+Fdj5AduYMHokaQ8sY= Received: by 10.35.89.10 with SMTP id r10mr1795799pyl; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 21:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.86.11 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 21:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 23:57:48 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.403 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.197, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.403 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 04:57:51 -0000 On 6/7/06, Larry Ewing wrote: > On the flickr site turn on the auto rotate option, that will let them > display the way you expect there. F-Spot rotates jpegs by changing the Hmmmm..... An f-spot rotated image does not display as rotated on flickr weather I use their "auto rotate" or not. Using their online uploading tool instead of f-spot's also doesn't make a difference. Again, am I missing something? --Dave > exif orientation of the image because it is a small relatively safe > modification. This produces an image just like what the camera would > have produced if it did have an orientation sensor. I chose to do it > this way because f-spot supports loading these images correctly and > other rotation methods, lossless or otherwise, require much more drastic > modifications to but the image and the metadata. The metadata dialog > displays the thumbnail stored in the exif data which is always stored > with the sensor orientation, so that is how you would expect it to look. > > That said, I will probably add an option to the preferences dialog to do > rotation of the coefficients sometime in the near future because the > code is already in f-spot for other reasons and some people prefer it. > > --Larry > > On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 12:33 -0500, David Berg wrote: > > I just imported some photos from my camera which does not have any > > orientation information. I rotated the photos, then exported them to > > flickr. When viewing them on flickr they are not rotated. I also > > notice that when I view the image in the Metadata Browser the images > > are not rotated there. I do not have flickr "auto-magically" rotating > > images when they are uploaded. > > > > Am I missing something or is this a bug? > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > From jaq@spacepants.org Thu Jun 8 01:51:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6323B055F for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 01:51:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10157-02 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 01:51:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx01.anchor.net.au (mx01.anchor.net.au [202.4.234.253]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE95D3B0540 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 01:51:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dawn.casa (office.bridge.anchor.net.au [202.4.235.109]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.anchor.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92EB21C4D8 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:51:40 +1000 (EST) Received: by dawn.casa (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E46562B05DD; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:52:42 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:52:42 +1000 From: Jamie Wilkinson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060608055242.GC21445@spacepants.org> Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org References: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: beefmail v0.0 X-No-CC: Please respect the setting of my Mail-Followup-To header User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.398 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.066, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.398 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 05:51:44 -0000 This one time, at band camp, David Berg wrote: >On 6/7/06, Larry Ewing wrote: >>On the flickr site turn on the auto rotate option, that will let them >>display the way you expect there. F-Spot rotates jpegs by changing the > >Hmmmm..... An f-spot rotated image does not display as rotated on >flickr weather I use their "auto rotate" or not. Using their online >uploading tool instead of f-spot's also doesn't make a difference. > >Again, am I missing something? I noticed a comment in the FlickrRemote.cs file yesterday that says something along the lines of "FIXME: flickr needs rotation", so I suspect that the orientation data could be included in the file upload. I've been playing around in there so if I find out what's going on with that I'll submit a patch. No guarantees though ;-) From steffentchr@gmail.com Wed Jun 7 03:22:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1D73B0C5C for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 03:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22221-08 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 03:22:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BD13B0343 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 03:22:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h2so84527nfe for ; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:22:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to:from:subject:date:x-mailer:sender; b=sBXtRxvuIP++tQikDFyVodcxJq3nExQ8hGuP5+j16BbDL8LHJvS0FP0mqJqfcPpS+ETMoeWzBmc0jTZsZ3PafOP+SQT4YTzO7ehnVB/SHrNq3Eg8Sg2ddcdaW2oZKFGV+Oc5sUFMFAnT8yndtnVsdLQDNteCcQxAgMeGkAXkeZY= Received: by 10.48.157.15 with SMTP id f15mr187524nfe; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.17.57? ( [83.93.78.185]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2sm585578nfe.2006.06.07.00.22.41; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <50103E49-B987-4933-8D00-F99D37F674DD@refresh.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Steffen Tiedemann Christensen Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 09:22:40 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) Sender: Steffen Tiedemann Christensen X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:55:08 -0400 Subject: Setting the endpoint of the Flickr API X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 07:22:45 -0000 Hi guys, I'm a member of the development team at 23 (http://www.23hq.com), and I have a small request/suggestion in that regard. Various photo sharing sites (i.e. our own and beta.zooomr.com) have implemented the Flickr API and allow third party apps such as F-Spot to enable photo export simply by changing the API endpoint. Would it be possible to allow user to manually change the Flickr API endpoint from http:///www.flickr.com/services/rest to something different such as http://www.23hq.com/services/rest or http:// beta.zooomr.com/services/rest. (Refer to this forum thread http://www.23hq.com/forums/message-view? message_id=742083 for a 23 user who got F-Spot exporting to work simply by adding a line to his /etc/hosts file -- this indicates that no other changes are needed in order have full cross-site support with your current code.) Thanks, Steffen Tiedemann Christensen http://www.23hq.com steffen@23hq.com From m487396@rocketmail.com Thu Jun 8 05:12:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F753B0598 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 05:12:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21911-04 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 05:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.86]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D9753B0505 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 05:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 75403 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jun 2006 09:12:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rocketmail.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=CiE/PEk3TmueAOqiBUMhBMt8S8GjK+FL2y81Gt0DE3fHOccQJBnFR7wARvRyZNLUWQo7jzzEN0CWjMo+zjyzMFP9qz0xAO3leDyCiqc6sX8ez4VZtNIxKD9znRZXjcqMbomU8eq9CscFkF8ZFnZSB5FArfksbt0E7bPZF2+WcuU= ; Message-ID: <20060608091250.75401.qmail@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [211.31.121.246] by web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:12:50 EST Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:12:50 +1000 (EST) From: "Mark A. Bell" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:55:08 -0400 Subject: problem compiling on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:12:52 -0000 Hello, I'd like to compile the f-spot-0.1.11 release on Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper. I used 'apt-get build-dep f-spot' to download dependencies. I downloaded the f-spot-0.1.11.tar.bz2 archive. ./configure fails at the following: checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate appending configuration tag "F77" to libtool checking what warning flags to pass to the C compiler... -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes checking what language compliance flags to pass to the C compiler... checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.0... yes (version 2.10.3) checking for mono... /usr/bin/mono checking for mcs... /usr/bin/mcs checking for mono.pc... found checking for Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll... configure: error: missing required mono DLL: Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll However, find / -iname 'Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll' Gives: /usr/lib/mono/gac/Mono.Data.SqliteClient/2.0.0.0__0738eb9f132ed756/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll /usr/lib/mono/2.0/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll Is my configure script looking for the file in the wrong place? Suggestions gratefully received. - mark /f-spot-0.1.11 Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com From lewing@novell.com Thu Jun 8 15:07:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E023B102C for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:07:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30616-09 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461233B1028 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18685 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2006 19:07:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Jun 2006 19:07:43 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Steffen Tiedemann Christensen In-Reply-To: <50103E49-B987-4933-8D00-F99D37F674DD@refresh.dk> References: <50103E49-B987-4933-8D00-F99D37F674DD@refresh.dk> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:15:45 -0500 Message-Id: <1149794146.13936.4.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.463 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.064, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.463 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Setting the endpoint of the Flickr API X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:07:50 -0000 Yeah happy to. It may be a little while before I have the time to add it since it really needs some UI changes to make much sense from the user's perspective. --Larry On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 09:22 +0200, Steffen Tiedemann Christensen wrote: > Hi guys, > > I'm a member of the development team at 23 (http://www.23hq.com), and > I have a small request/suggestion in that regard. Various photo > sharing sites (i.e. our own and beta.zooomr.com) have implemented the > Flickr API and allow third party apps such as F-Spot to enable photo > export simply by changing the API endpoint. > Would it be possible to allow user to manually change the Flickr API > endpoint from http:///www.flickr.com/services/rest to something > different such as http://www.23hq.com/services/rest or http:// > beta.zooomr.com/services/rest. > > (Refer to this forum thread http://www.23hq.com/forums/message-view? > message_id=742083 for a 23 user who got F-Spot exporting to work > simply by adding a line to his /etc/hosts file -- this indicates that > no other changes are needed in order have full cross-site support > with your current code.) > > > Thanks, > Steffen Tiedemann Christensen > http://www.23hq.com > steffen@23hq.com > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list From nick@communicontent.com Thu Jun 8 15:32:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92073B0774 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32276-07 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:32:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pfepb.post.tele.dk (pfepb.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.236]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D93B3B000E for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:32:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nick.communicontent.com (unknown [87.48.90.98]) by pfepb.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 6972DA50096 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 21:31:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by nick.communicontent.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 8 Jun 2006 21:44:43 +0200 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 21:44:43 +0200 From: Nick Wilson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r802 (Linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.532 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.068, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.532 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Wilson List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:32:16 -0000 hi everyone, is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive thanks! -- Nick Wilson http://performancing.com/user/1 From gcgaf-f-spot-list@m.gmane.org Thu Jun 8 16:00:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55823B0F8F for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 16:00:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01410-10 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 16:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28B23B0730 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 16:00:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FoQgD-0003YJ-0p for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:00:33 +0200 Received: from p54a195b5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.161.149.181]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:00:33 +0200 Received: from colin by p54a195b5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:00:33 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Colin Marquardt Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 21:58:21 +0200 Organization: I'd rather call it chaos. Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54a195b5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de Mail-Copies-To: never X-Draft-From: ("gmane.comp.gnome.apps.f-spot" 764) X-message-flag: Please don't add me to your address book if you are using Outlook. Thanks, Colin. X-Jabber-UID: cmarqu (see http://www.jabber.org) X-Home-Page: http://www.marquardt-home.de X-GnuPG-Key: gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.us.pgp.net --recv-keys 5359F413 X-Fingerprint: 6D9B 01B4 F8B9 500F 3056 D74F D27F EBF5 5359 F413 Cancel-Lock: sha1:x1VlmVATagVM8AvUpOEQWvh8OcI= Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.573 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.028, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.573 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 20:00:55 -0000 Nick Wilson writes: > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive Gnome applications use gconf, so in theory, you'd be able to change this setting via e.g. gconf-editor, under apps/fspot/..., but at least my f-spot version 0.1.11 doesn't allow to configure that directory. Cheers, Colin From nick@communicontent.com Thu Jun 8 17:21:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0813D3B06A5 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:21:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06221-10 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:21:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pfepb.post.tele.dk (pfepb.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.236]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF883B0FA3 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:21:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nick.communicontent.com (0x57305a62.naenxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [87.48.90.98]) by pfepb.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 15B7EA50004 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 23:21:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: by nick.communicontent.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 8 Jun 2006 23:34:40 +0200 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 23:34:40 +0200 From: Nick Wilson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060608213440.GD28036@communicontent.com> References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r802 (Linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.524 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.060, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.524 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Wilson List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 21:21:24 -0000 * and then Colin Marquardt declared.... > Nick Wilson writes: > > > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive > > Gnome applications use gconf, so in theory, you'd be able to change > this setting via e.g. gconf-editor, under apps/fspot/..., but at > least my f-spot version 0.1.11 doesn't allow to configure that > directory. ah, i downloaded that, thanks. Shame, mine doesn't have it either. I did successfully move Photos/ and then soft link to it, so maybe i can do something like that to get it doing what i want (ive never used NFS so have no clue really on that..) thanks -- Nick Wilson http://performancing.com/user/1 From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Thu Jun 8 17:35:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410B43B0105 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:35:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07181-02 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:35:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0180B3B000E for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:35:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i12so716162wra for ; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:35:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=QdYV9h9749DmL5097FYmFdvr21aVqNaGBYXjOt9CH+QmINjPdjbCy6uERkxSYIbfCFYziiDbUZPHOI1wSzO4GixpCgsnV618OBKyFVBW/vEp+NY4lvCKoVgDMe2MLy4WgIoaaoXqs+dTu9PHeU5BD6oH/+GGXhQKrcy7XMmS58Q= Received: by 10.54.126.1 with SMTP id y1mr2189765wrc; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.26.1.18? ( [216.95.183.94]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 8sm1984091wra.2006.06.08.14.35.19; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 17:35:18 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> In-Reply-To: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.531 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.531 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 21:35:24 -0000 Nick Wilson wrote: > hi everyone, > > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive > > thanks! I sent a patch to the mailing list a while back that added a '--photoDir' option to f-spot, so you can put both the db, and any imported photos in a specific directory. My particular use case is I want to have a collection of photos directly on my laptop's hard drive, but I want to have another collection of photos on a portable hard drive, and I wanted an easy way to switch between them. I thought I had attached this to a bug, but it looks like I never did. I think the patch I previously submitted was against the last snapshot --- I'll put together a patch against head and submit it tonight... Warren From bengt@thuree.com Thu Jun 8 19:42:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8EF3B00FA for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:42:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13151-10 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:42:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EFD3B0408 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:42:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k58NfpPm015892 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 9 Jun 2006 09:41:54 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: Warren Baird In-Reply-To: <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 09:41:56 +1000 Message-Id: <1149810116.7586.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 23:42:05 -0000 On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 17:35 -0400, Warren Baird wrote: > Nick Wilson wrote: > > hi everyone, > > > > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive > > > > thanks! > > I sent a patch to the mailing list a while back that added a > '--photoDir' option to f-spot, so you can put both the db, and any > imported photos in a specific directory. > > My particular use case is I want to have a collection of photos directly > on my laptop's hard drive, but I want to have another collection of > photos on a portable hard drive, and I wanted an easy way to switch > between them. > > I thought I had attached this to a bug, but it looks like I never did. > I think the patch I previously submitted was against the last > snapshot --- I'll put together a patch against head and submit it tonight... > > Warren I put together a very much preliminary patch to let F-Spot use a global configuration file as well. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331953 Here is another bug (with a patch) to let user change Photos directory. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325166 From nick@communicontent.com Fri Jun 9 17:12:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7AB3B00FE for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21145-06 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:12:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pfepc.post.tele.dk (pfepc.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E3A3B0108 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:12:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nick.communicontent.com (0x57305a62.naenxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [87.48.90.98]) by pfepc.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id BEBF28A0032 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 23:12:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: by nick.communicontent.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 9 Jun 2006 23:26:37 +0200 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 23:26:37 +0200 From: Nick Wilson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060609212637.GA14439@communicontent.com> References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <1149810116.7586.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1149810116.7586.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r802 (Linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.496 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.032, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.496 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Wilson List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 21:12:58 -0000 * and then Bengt Thuree declared.... > > > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > > > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > > > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive > > > > > > thanks! > > > > I sent a patch to the mailing list a while back that added a > > '--photoDir' option to f-spot, so you can put both the db, and any > > imported photos in a specific directory. > > > > My particular use case is I want to have a collection of photos directly > > on my laptop's hard drive, but I want to have another collection of > > photos on a portable hard drive, and I wanted an easy way to switch > > between them. > > > > I thought I had attached this to a bug, but it looks like I never did. > > I think the patch I previously submitted was against the last > > snapshot --- I'll put together a patch against head and submit it tonight... > I put together a very much preliminary patch to let F-Spot use a global > configuration file as well. > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331953 > > Here is another bug (with a patch) to let user change Photos directory. > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325166 Thanks for the help everyone. It turns out that f-spot works just fine if you swap the ~/Photos dir for a symlink, and if that symlink is pointed at an NFS mount, you can indeed keep all your photos on one drive and allow multiple boxes to access it. I've yet to set it up properly, but testing worked just great, now i just have to redo the storage box the way i want it and we're in business :) -- Nick Wilson http://performancing.com/user/1 From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 9 18:55:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F473B0370 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:55:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26392-04 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:55:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.199]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDC83B0301 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:55:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k59MthQJ017111 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:55:44 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: Nick Wilson In-Reply-To: <20060609212637.GA14439@communicontent.com> References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <1149810116.7586.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060609212637.GA14439@communicontent.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:55:50 +1000 Message-Id: <1149893750.7586.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 22:55:51 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 23:26 +0200, Nick Wilson wrote: > It turns out that f-spot works just fine if you swap the ~/Photos dir > for a symlink, and if that symlink is pointed at an NFS mount, you can > indeed keep all your photos on one drive and allow multiple boxes to > access it. > > I've yet to set it up properly, but testing worked just great, now i > just have to redo the storage box the way i want it and we're in > business :) > Are you using the latest CVS? I am using the latest CVS, and have my home directory on an NFS mount. F-Spot will not enable the Edit icons in Edit view due to this. See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344403 /Bengt From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 9 21:21:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0243B028B for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:21:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00418-01 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:21:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.196]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADD53B00D0 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:21:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5A1LDsA016968 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:21:13 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:21:13 +1000 Message-Id: <1149902473.7586.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Subject: SendEmail in MainWindow? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:21:17 -0000 Hi Seems like part of the resize photos for emails are in the MainWindow.cs, but the SendMail.cs file is missing. > $ grep SendEmail MainWindow.cs > new FSpot.SendEmail (new FSpot.PhotoArray (SelectedPhotos ())); Perhaps introduced when reverting MainWindow? /bengt From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 9 22:28:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7EC3B0161 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 22:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03436-09 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 22:28:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4BE3B01D0 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 22:28:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5A2SPJC003635 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:28:25 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list In-Reply-To: <1149902473.7586.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1149902473.7586.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:28:26 +1000 Message-Id: <1149906507.7586.87.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: SendEmail in MainWindow? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:28:31 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 11:21 +1000, Bengt Thuree wrote: > Seems like part of the resize photos for emails are in the > MainWindow.cs, but the SendMail.cs file is missing. > > $ grep SendEmail MainWindow.cs > > new FSpot.SendEmail (new FSpot.PhotoArray (SelectedPhotos ())); > > Perhaps introduced when reverting MainWindow? Or more likely by someone called murphy at my place :( After deleting all, and checkout a new version of F-Spot it worked fine. /Bengt From jaq@spacepants.org Sat Jun 10 01:33:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964973B028B for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:33:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10716-06 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx01.anchor.net.au (mx01.anchor.net.au [202.4.234.253]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655CD3B0169 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dawn.casa (203-166-247-250.dyn.iinet.net.au [203.166.247.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.anchor.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4681C6F9 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:33:08 +1000 (EST) Received: by dawn.casa (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CE0502B0BA7; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:34:10 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:34:10 +1000 From: Jamie Wilkinson To: f-spot-list Message-ID: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailer: beefmail v0.0 X-No-CC: Please respect the setting of my Mail-Followup-To header User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.034 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_WHOIS_BOGONS=2.43] X-Spam-Score: -0.034 X-Spam-Level: Subject: building with ccache X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:33:11 -0000 Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs? Now I've got a few branches of f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing. From maxima.mlist@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 05:40:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249773B0130 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:40:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23000-07 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:40:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38543B044D for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:40:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1054485pyd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:40:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=sb9Yr5B0RGgit+ST7bP1rNs6hHp/T7vcSqmIxQ/NTXJPbrG1zCDAY1NK8MwDxh9FH9XPLsH6UoNggW5QEXMCi/wPjIBSIfRvsQrTTTSfBOThVYedWBF2Bmg3bxLiiu/Sl7uW2rOcynaZ6buF79sPkJaCh2PZZWq2Hpy7TXx49fA= Received: by 10.35.91.15 with SMTP id t15mr934583pyl; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from debussy.harmony ( [203.206.244.79]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k53sm1789689pyd.2006.06.10.02.40.50; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:40:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Arif Lukito To: Jamie Wilkinson In-Reply-To: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> References: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-RHtnQ5hPXSxZloA4yo5B" Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:40:47 +1000 Message-Id: <1149932447.18989.0.camel@debussy.harmony> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.035 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_WHOIS_BOGONS=2.43, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.035 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list Subject: Re: building with ccache X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:40:56 -0000 --=-RHtnQ5hPXSxZloA4yo5B Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 15:34 +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs? Now I've got a few branches of > f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the > build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing > obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing. Isn't that ccache is only for C and C++ ? -- Arif Lukito --=-RHtnQ5hPXSxZloA4yo5B Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 15:34 +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: 
Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs?  Now I've got a few branches of
f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the
build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing
obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing.
Isn't that ccache is only for C and C++ ?


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Arif Lukito <maxima.mlist@gmail.com>
--=-RHtnQ5hPXSxZloA4yo5B-- From m.j.hutchinson@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 09:09:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6593B04A6 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:09:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03255-08 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:09:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.207]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDF93B0479 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:09:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i30so764988wxd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 06:09:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Qut/7C/0Ntt7OY7KFW+icHgUMPZ9U4euqqzUsT7/65llNw6Z0ScOU46mU02+bDFt4NXIx/Zv8K3HO0y3V6O9uq/t5NAmFvbZvnrWI+O2IIcjo1K75JHUAbt39s1OUkEr/MqrLqc7bQ0lf7vcUPBHu+u11IMS+rJdN1IdqEpQXv0= Received: by 10.70.8.2 with SMTP id 2mr4547431wxh; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 06:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.124.9 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 06:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 14:09:42 +0100 From: "Michael Hutchinson" To: f-spot-list In-Reply-To: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.259 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.341, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.259 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: building with ccache X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:09:45 -0000 On 6/10/06, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs? Now I've got a few branches of > f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the > build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing > obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing. Won't work with mcs. Even it it did, mcs is many times faster than gcc, so you wouldn't see much of a difference. You could maybe put it in front of the C parts of f-spot. Michael From drberg1000@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 11:02:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2CF3B0237 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10145-05 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:02:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F2D3B0227 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:02:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1106948pyd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:02:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uqi4FAHLtjox6py+LI4LzOTRwIwtRp2JR//+QHuhAnla3qhZ1fcJZOqEj7b5q2Zz/7fd7lqn67ouLjvfEYbqv2grbuxO5p2oqNIo1Qr9TEMN5/SILmWCI5Bv4s3Fr+YMXArE+woYFue2mfWkMYbaslLZ/cDcuS1fdn6hWtd4oZ4= Received: by 10.35.46.6 with SMTP id y6mr3646121pyj; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.82.13 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 10:02:00 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20060608055242.GC21445@spacepants.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> <20060608055242.GC21445@spacepants.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.666 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.624, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.666 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:02:07 -0000 On 6/8/06, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > This one time, at band camp, David Berg wrote: > >On 6/7/06, Larry Ewing wrote: > >>On the flickr site turn on the auto rotate option, that will let them > >>display the way you expect there. F-Spot rotates jpegs by changing the > > > >Hmmmm..... An f-spot rotated image does not display as rotated on > >flickr weather I use their "auto rotate" or not. Using their online > >uploading tool instead of f-spot's also doesn't make a difference. > > > >Again, am I missing something? > > I noticed a comment in the FlickrRemote.cs file yesterday that says > something along the lines of "FIXME: flickr needs rotation", so I suspect > that the orientation data could be included in the file upload. I don't know how f-spot is organized so I could be wrong but I don't think its a problem with any code specific to flickr. I remember this morning that my camera would rotate images by adjusting exif as well and tried it using that to rotate instead of f-spot. When I uploaded a camera-rotated-image flickr auto-rotated it. I uploaded the image both using the web interface and f-spot and both methods worked fine. When I ran exif on an image I had rotated using f-spot and compared it to this one I found that the camera-rotated-image had these entries for Orientation: dberg@dale:~/Photos/2006/6/10$ exif DSC02341.JPG | grep Orientation Orientation |right - top Orientation |right - top Where as the image rotated in f-spot had these entries: dberg@dale:~/Photos/2006/6/10$ exif DSC02342.JPG | grep Orientation Orientation |right - top Orientation |top - left Apparently flickr looks at both or just the second and is either confused by the mismatched info or decides it doesn't need to be rotated. Should I file a bug for this? --Dave > > I've been playing around in there so if I find out what's going on with that > I'll submit a patch. No guarantees though ;-) > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From bengt@thuree.com Sat Jun 10 11:12:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C3A3B028F for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:12:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10802-09 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:12:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FCF3B0187 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5AFCQfe005287 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 01:12:27 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: David Berg In-Reply-To: References: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> <20060608055242.GC21445@spacepants.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 01:12:36 +1000 Message-Id: <1149952357.7586.101.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:12:35 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 10:02 -0500, David Berg wrote: > > Should I file a bug for this? > Please do, since that is the sure way to ensure nothing gets lost during the way.... :) Good finding :) /Bengt From tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie Sat Jun 10 11:46:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADA33B01D7 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:46:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12287-04 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:46:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alfred.murphy.ie (unknown [86.43.71.228]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944AA3B0227 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alfred.murphy.ie (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alfred.murphy.ie (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5AFkbvD011987 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:46:37 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by alfred.murphy.ie (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k5AFka96011984 for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:46:36 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: alfred.murphy.ie: tim set sender to tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie using -f From: Timothy Murphy Organization: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:46:35 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200606101646.36200.tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.579 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.020, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.579 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Is f-spot what I want? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:46:57 -0000 I'm afraid it's not clear to me exactly what f-spot does (or how one gets it to do whatever that is). Basically, I have a few folders containing JPEGs, maybe 300 in all, and I want to offer them on my web-site. Can I use f-spot to create a web photo gallery? If so, what commands exactly should I give? I looked at the User Guide, but I'm afraid I didn't learn much from it. Is there a simple tutorial or howto somewhere? Any suggestions or advice gratefully received. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland From ken@vandine.org Sat Jun 10 11:58:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7623B02AC for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12471-07 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (unknown [24.25.9.100]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08923B0305 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (cpe-071-065-240-185.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.240.185]) by ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5AFwiTS025959; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken VanDine To: tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie In-Reply-To: <200606101646.36200.tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie> References: <200606101646.36200.tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:52 -0400 Message-Id: <1149955132.5110.2.camel@foobar> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.082 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.517, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.082 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Is f-spot what I want? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:58:55 -0000 You can export them to create a web gallery. http://f-spot.org/User_Guide/Share#Generate_a_Website_Gallery F-Spot is a tool for managing your library of photos. Part of that management is being able to export the photos you select and resize for the web. There are several methods for doing so, check that link out and see if it does what you want. Enjoy f-spot! --Ken On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 16:46 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I'm afraid it's not clear to me exactly what f-spot does > (or how one gets it to do whatever that is). > > Basically, I have a few folders containing JPEGs, > maybe 300 in all, > and I want to offer them on my web-site. > Can I use f-spot to create a web photo gallery? > If so, what commands exactly should I give? > > I looked at the User Guide, > but I'm afraid I didn't learn much from it. > > Is there a simple tutorial or howto somewhere? > Any suggestions or advice gratefully received. > From qub333@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 12:16:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6087A3B02AC for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:16:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13756-02 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:16:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.199]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540C63B0538 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:14:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 9so1255881nzo for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:14:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=GB86vqRKdEeOzi28pIfkBAsCyEH7ygXq9FBpSFrMwCpGU6lxZUMPDBJhYx5g5YTinsWlqL59dAJWwdJqJoJbOhf9fiPxNoMKhYYkzc9lOl5ipX4+DqmgKlnDM+TEjeaczi9JI6A2eeL+ep5nKucozR+GdJKb1PFqeiwjeQiybKs= Received: by 10.36.224.49 with SMTP id w49mr3904026nzg; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.4 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <88d636060606100914y2a85732fk46a51842dc2aa41a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:14:33 -0400 From: "Kevin Kubasik" Sender: qub333@gmail.com To: "Mark A. Bell" In-Reply-To: <20060608091250.75401.qmail@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060608091250.75401.qmail@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8e590672541337ac X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.548 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.052, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.548 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: problem compiling on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:16:16 -0000 Try the following, just to be sure sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get build-dep f-spot ./configure --prefix=/usr //becasue you are on an debian based system, you need to use the /use prefix -Kevin Kubasik On 6/8/06, Mark A. Bell wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to compile the f-spot-0.1.11 release on Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper. > > I used 'apt-get build-dep f-spot' to download dependencies. > I downloaded the f-spot-0.1.11.tar.bz2 archive. > > ./configure fails at the following: > > checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate > appending configuration tag "F77" to libtool > checking what warning flags to pass to the C compiler... -Wall > -Wmissing-prototypes > checking what language compliance flags to pass to the C compiler... > checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config > checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.0... yes (version 2.10.3) > checking for mono... /usr/bin/mono > checking for mcs... /usr/bin/mcs > checking for mono.pc... found > checking for Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll... configure: error: missing > required mono DLL: Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll > > However, > > find / -iname 'Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll' > > Gives: > > /usr/lib/mono/gac/Mono.Data.SqliteClient/2.0.0.0__0738eb9f132ed756/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll > /usr/lib/mono/2.0/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll > > Is my configure script looking for the file in the wrong place? > Suggestions gratefully received. > > - mark > > > > /f-spot-0.1.11 > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > -- Cheers, Kevin Kubasik http://kubasik.net/blog From m487396@rocketmail.com Sat Jun 10 15:42:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE34C3B0494 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:42:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23801-01 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:42:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.92]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E58ED3B050D for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73928 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jun 2006 19:42:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rocketmail.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=WrghfpbdBeyioC5I4vqJtyfXtA3g1ScLkKPv/o2ndn4pdLXa6UjyIZYeoC6OMSDLBGOnz6hAjDM9YhK+3ZpoCAJTwf5peTQwKl63oBnXOTvEKtj7zUiJfzWYVN8gihjIdCqulPiIaBoZVwC8iNpWG0IIet0bV9JfH9rESR2phWQ= ; Message-ID: <20060610194218.73926.qmail@web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [211.31.121.246] by web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:42:18 EST Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:42:18 +1000 (EST) From: "Mark A. Bell" To: f-spot-list In-Reply-To: <88d636060606100914y2a85732fk46a51842dc2aa41a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.577 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.577 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: problem compiling on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:42:22 -0000 --- Kevin Kubasik wrote: > Try the following, just to be sure > > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get build-dep f-spot > ./configure --prefix=/usr //becasue you are on an debian based > system, > you need to use the /use prefix > > -Kevin Kubasik Thanks kindly for your help, Kevin. I don't have much experience compiling packages from source. The problem was that I had mono-classlib-2.0, but I needed mono-classlib-1.0 instead. After fixing this, and a good deal of other packages, I got Flickr to configure and compile. I am most happy - thanks to all the Flickr developers. Why anyone would want to run Picassa on Linux is a mystery to me. - mark sydney, australia http://www.flickr.com/photos/m487396 Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com From qub333@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 22:16:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CA13B0456 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:16:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04252-07 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:16:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6EC3B0313 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:16:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i30so830058wxd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:15:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=jW8efGCqBx8QziPZrY6SDT9f2nHLSZQqv3oyGiR53yaYaIgI6OutbmzK0Og4QEdj7in+M37aSaWfRB5NCjCbjeprFMMzyCEWC+Rjd35/QI1+JRk2LwcAECH185L6wPxNytSmiwPm2vSFONosqEz5s2xbQg3GtdjbWM5ftfxSocg= Received: by 10.70.10.2 with SMTP id 2mr5071104wxj; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.108? ( [69.140.109.194]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h9sm4269697wxd.2006.06.10.19.15.33; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <448B7CC4.7020902@kubasik.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:15:32 -0400 From: Kevin Kubasik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060522) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=43337DF4; url=http://kubasik.net/KevinKubasik.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Kevin Kubasik X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.16 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.440, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.16 X-Spam-Level: Subject: F-spot and pkg-config X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:16:40 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Does f-spot install a pkg-config .pc file? I can't seem to find one, but I am working on some deeper integration between beagle and f-spot, and I need beagle to be able to check at compile time if f-spot is installed, and what version. A simple f-spot --version | awk {print $3} does work as a hack, but a more permanent/ professional solution would be nice. - -- Cheers, Kevin Kubasik 240-838-6616 http://kubasik.net/blog -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBRIt8xP3xZFNDM330AQjuFg/+Nwk8Yd14Toy+9NUK2OWpaCdyCcDwLVUf MchviVqlSx1dsHjQBFUczlHmmbHIjhivAp+p69rBlGPxOzUebTSUA50Sf1i+dafc cGUuimjBhd8LXehpHyEoKRdb/adrMcylhqtmOC52UnxmewKQ/oOd7c4Vdhqy/8+I n9HQuqUIS0FVQ6obRcLNRF+jz4PVInRyfOaqHiHD6g/wDUtgX5pRNdkGiqiC2J4F NbMytA2NJafwqCdJFFORUQ7O+3rSl0R0e7Ee9PodfeuNQNNm93+yeU+cOYNxkiPL i8seVQN2dhdjiGA+2ifYNna3yeG62q8hr/513j03JZUdjrZtfcixc0j+VeePpSWA Hy2M2qrNbZCRtRVkqrwmsMjzgn6F50bboGa3uhlSHWJ9+Jo1JNbU7pdu+DSyxqYJ NXv9eQBwMBPcwsoAua8fbgJsVD2/BeS8atRXcUUQgtkv8FPu5+WyD4+L22HGWLzX Urymjs4+iHKsZP4xt8FHTYpdaXch6YX+X5LDdLzkLd9RtR98C8pAEbxB6V11jisQ qnImNe42UHLGNz69mbIPWRX3AgruVlrrENfwSPTegAfAI3X0+9Yk+ZT1nGlaWsYO pN/Bs1d1adyM2zMxrMJMN6SfveJHHsm4pzNg8tNJEwv41tEjxLeK4JR3GBrqh4NY 8ua7ZQ20iWg= =728w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jaq@spacepants.org Sat Jun 10 22:23:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580633B0313 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:23:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04933-03 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx01.anchor.net.au (mx01.anchor.net.au [202.4.234.253]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A904D3B030D for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dawn.casa (203-166-247-250.dyn.iinet.net.au [203.166.247.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.anchor.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405A01D14A for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:21:52 +1000 (EST) Received: by dawn.casa (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EFE2A2B0BA8; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:22:55 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:22:55 +1000 From: Jamie Wilkinson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060611022255.GB4953@spacepants.org> Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org References: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> <1149932447.18989.0.camel@debussy.harmony> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1149932447.18989.0.camel@debussy.harmony> X-Mailer: beefmail v0.0 X-No-CC: Please respect the setting of my Mail-Followup-To header User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.034 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_WHOIS_BOGONS=2.43] X-Spam-Score: -0.034 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: building with ccache X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:23:22 -0000 This one time, at band camp, Arif Lukito wrote: >On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 15:34 +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > >> Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs? Now I've got a few branches of >> f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the >> build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing >> obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing. > >Isn't that ccache is only for C and C++ ? I've never used it before, that's why I was asking ;-) From qub333@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 22:28:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900C43B04F1 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:28:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04593-08 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:28:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DE63B0456 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:28:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i30so830843wxd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:27:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=B96MHIhFWoOBQWWZ+acTxmyJ+nAwZUGEsEq9mQ6aUjQuwLdTnsG/mkXrqg5kCiKLA/hj+kUM+oSRmYZO61aep48FtXl+JKEGTK47ev1Tp0RlPubvzCl3p+zqpOXq0ba3prazN3D+T5OwsdeQg4eIxJo2oIEH1aNh5C3Ia0sIYwI= Received: by 10.70.26.1 with SMTP id 1mr5072738wxz; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.108? ( [69.140.109.194]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h17sm4376967wxd.2006.06.10.19.27.46; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <448B7FA2.5020908@kubasik.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:27:46 -0400 From: Kevin Kubasik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060522) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Kubasik References: <448B7CC4.7020902@kubasik.net> In-Reply-To: <448B7CC4.7020902@kubasik.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=43337DF4; url=http://kubasik.net/KevinKubasik.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Kevin Kubasik X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.199 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.401, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.199 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot and pkg-config X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:28:41 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Ok, I filed this as bug #344534 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344534 Kevin Kubasik wrote: > Does f-spot install a pkg-config .pc file? I can't seem to find one, but > I am working on some deeper integration between beagle and f-spot, and I > need beagle to be able to check at compile time if f-spot is installed, > and what version. A simple > f-spot --version | awk {print $3} > does work as a hack, but a more permanent/ professional solution would > be nice. > > - -- Cheers, Kevin Kubasik 240-838-6616 http://kubasik.net/blog -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBRIt/of3xZFNDM330AQjFhg/+M+p26fVL8cXYQVpsloho71P2Ode6yIM7 X/tcHynd/WXivm8phZMJpgFpSdsr9rUmGuLc2WCvB07K217cBo3ESV0YEDvYvoeu 0P2dCKkmu9z9sKcpJsCCCrOa/nALIoTSNFPhuxE6bcy7dPVykpLbuqg160+LGyX5 TpCnayaxO4CNZu52TrctsqMF6ana7OFhJ5zft3FE3jQ/hy41VK+2ltMn5wHQ2fNe 4BTPlvzNhFlorCbY4P5snZnA2Jss3Xg3pzugq/O990BIaoOFCRThDly+hlEYrvlm hV25rue/rtsM/1A7vH3CHM8JMnC5nJYkky3b4j6RtPoekQf0zj09gFfzUhCmCMu6 0nm9DSNLjU6fVhc4M6ZFDBz1iO/eS7Z29s9jSAt1Kk5Wkqw+bNX8BUgaXuv1NE8l wr1qWjR+gfNys8UyFcEduI0bIGfYVJCq/fwR0LJU3yAJimoLlgKgPUFBZHVxL1+9 4cSJa9NBxX4/Kva75k2WHBEmSvf/2QlWrHJEYygIlSD2x+4Gg67/X1xC+7E907YU Yw8aYDHnRKx4JFVcwhz9zY6nwaEQiT+kyu4ZOGq/4B8qVdbfknajdjKDRaEspP/Y RhhG4BcPPz3tYO63CwsT39HFfA6FXj6X7Zl6ws7s0ZB5sy5hzUUwKhWofFVT8lNx MpstHJqaSlA= =dX62 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jfc001@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 05:30:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C2D3B0095 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00548-02 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BDB3B039F for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1237268pyd for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:29:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=eVJZishWuh/BkzRmlhCsCcTL848UFOONhi6OPnFccj0y6OY/91p7FB7EG1PMjqpzikeEsROOCVXl7vjnHzCIun6ogcj2fo7U+HMc/V9oXEjFzyyWf+Ddx3GgmilNVktcmjWgx/Rj/dyyt6Z50vEZm0iclpHbWyAQwtTvoru1XGA= Received: by 10.35.57.5 with SMTP id j5mr131414pyk; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.20.7 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:29:15 -0600 From: "James Carroll" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_6231_12266151.1150018155717" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.238 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.052, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP=0.175, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.238 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 09:30:20 -0000 ------=_Part_6231_12266151.1150018155717 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6232_32330217.1150018155717" ------=_Part_6232_32330217.1150018155717 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I upgraded from Ubuntu Breezy (5.10) to Dapper (6.06), but I am still not able to run f-spot. I am able to successfully compile the latest CVS version by following the How to Build instructions, (Thanks, Bengtt!), but I get the following when trying to run f-spot, either the stable version through the package manager or the latest CVS. I have attached the full error output, both for the stable version and the CVS snapshot. The output of the two is slightly different. ** (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe:2636): WARNING **: The > following assembly referenced from /home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f- > spot.exe could not be loaded: > Assembly: gnome-sharp (assemblyref_index=9) > Version: 2.8.0.0 > Public Key: 35e10195dab3c99f > The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in > the MONO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing > assembly (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot). > > > ================================================================= > Got a SIGSEGV while executing native code. This usually indicates > a fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries > used by your application. > ================================================================= > I have looked for the variable MONO_PATH isn't set, at least not in bash. Thank you so much for the help! James Carroll ------=_Part_6232_32330217.1150018155717 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I upgraded from Ubuntu Breezy (5.10) to Dapper (6.06), but I am still not able to run f-spot.  I am able to successfully compile the latest CVS version by following the How to Build instructions, (Thanks, Bengtt!), but I get the following when trying to run f-spot, either the stable version through the package manager or the latest CVS. I have attached the full error output, both for the stable version and the CVS snapshot. The output of the two is slightly different.

** (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f- spot.exe:2636): WARNING **: The following assembly referenced from /home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe could not be loaded:
     Assembly:   gnome-sharp    (assemblyref_index=9)
     Version:    2.8.0.0
     Public Key: 35e10195dab3c99f
The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in the MONO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing assembly (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot).


=================================================================
Got a SIGSEGV while executing native code. This usually indicates
a fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries
used by your application.
=================================================================

I have looked for the variable MONO_PATH isn't set, at least not in bash.

Thank you so much for the help!
James Carroll


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Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:14:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03055-01 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:14:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.166]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C2F3B0095 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:14:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5BADUcu001565 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:13:31 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: James Carroll In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:13:41 +1000 Message-Id: <1150020822.5937.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:14:57 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 03:29 -0600, James Carroll wrote: > I upgraded from Ubuntu Breezy (5.10) to Dapper (6.06), but I am still > not able to run f-spot. I am able to successfully compile the latest > CVS version by following the How to Build instructions, (Thanks, > Bengtt!), Your'e welcome :) > but I get the following when trying to run f-spot, either the stable > version through the package manager or the latest CVS. I have attached > the full error output, both for the stable version and the CVS > snapshot. The output of the two is slightly different. > > ** (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f- spot.exe:2636): > WARNING **: The following assembly referenced > from /home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe could > not Have you done the "make install" ? F-Spot will look for some libraries in the /home/james/unstable/f-spot directory even if you run the uninstalled version. /Bengt From jfc001@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 06:42:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178CE3B03C2 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:42:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04975-03 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:42:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5553B00CB for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:42:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1245373pyd for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:40:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=iYpd1sL8Oo9JSa8vJR6yHyXLIC8hlhbaYM2LBWW0l4L7iQygBq/7qiIhkedClZsd9Vv588Ywofw09jDe79xRLkpBE9vFm/7gsryKOSmkdGBSiiA/+Dy9rntQeX3th4hJcVw81+6XWIKh+obn1m8uEvwRWHSHCjIeThTmiktRRtE= Received: by 10.35.109.2 with SMTP id l2mr2349713pym; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.20.7 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 04:40:04 -0600 From: "James Carroll" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6688_26513123.1150022404549" References: <1150020822.5937.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.331 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.134, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.331 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:42:35 -0000 ------=_Part_6688_26513123.1150022404549 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 6/11/06, Bengt Thuree wrote: > Have you done the "make install" ? Yes. But I wasn't sure from which directory to run it. From your directions, I don't think it's clear if I should be in ~/development/f-spot/f-spot/src or ~/development/f-spot/f-spot/ Either way, I ran it in both (I assume the Makefile in the parent directory calls the Makefile in the subdirectory) and I still get the same error. Do I need to run it as root (with sudo)? F-Spot will look for some libraries in the /home/james/unstable/f-spot > directory even if you run the uninstalled version. What is the "uninstalled version"? To me, it seems impossible to run a program that's not installed on your computer. Is this a common term when working with projects under development, in which you might have one version "installed" and other versions in various directories, that aren't "installed"? /Bengt James ------=_Part_6688_26513123.1150022404549 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 6/11/06, Bengt Thuree <bengt@thuree.com > wrote:
Have you done the "make install" ?

Yes. But I wasn't sure from which directory to run it.  From your directions, I don't think it's clear if I should be in
~/development/f-spot/f-spot/src
or
~/development/f-spot/f-spot/

Either way, I ran it in both (I assume the Makefile in the parent directory calls the Makefile in the subdirectory) and I still get the same error.  Do I need to run it as root (with sudo)?

F-Spot will look for some libraries in the /home/james/unstable/f-spot
directory even if you run the uninstalled version.

What is the "uninstalled version"?  To me, it seems impossible to run a program that's not installed on your computer.  Is this a common term when working with projects under development, in which you might have one version "installed" and other versions in various directories, that aren't "installed"?

/Bengt
 
James

------=_Part_6688_26513123.1150022404549-- From janne.ojaniemi@nbl.fi Sun Jun 11 07:32:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387523B063F for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06916-03 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:32:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.nblnetworks.fi (smtp2.nblnetworks.fi [217.30.182.231]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339503B0640 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:32:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (xdsl-176-84.nblnetworks.fi [217.30.176.84]) by smtp2.nblnetworks.fi (8.13.1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k5BBXu9M021198 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:33:57 +0300 From: Janne Ojaniemi To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:31:38 +0300 Message-Id: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 11:32:06 -0000 What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs are unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, F-Spot constantly fights against me. So I have a bunch of photos on my computer. They are NOT in my home-folder, but rather in /multimedia/pics. This way they are accessible to my wife as well. And in that directory, they are also divided among different folders, named after the subject. This way I can browse the pictures in filemanager as well, should the need arise. Sounds simple enough? Yes it does. But why is this setup so difficult for F-Spot to handle? I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, select "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to photos-folder", and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. After the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is it? Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to select "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to find out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me where those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are located in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the date of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be in /multimedia/pics/ I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the Photos-folder. Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same set of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I edit any of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. I just re-tried the import, after I deleted the photos-folder from my home. And again it copied the files to my home. I then deleted the photos-folder again, and the thumbnails were still visible in F-Spot, but full-size photos were not. Why can't I do something as simple as this: Tell F-spot to import photos from certain folder and NOT copy the files ANYWHERE. Just import the photos, but leave the actual files where they are! IIRC I ONCE managed to make F-spot really use the /multimedia/pics, but even then, if I imported pics from my camera, F-Spot always imported them to /home/photos. So my pictures were split among two locations, when I really want to have all my pics in one location. Why is this so hard? It feels like that F-Spot has certain way of working, and it wont budge from that way. And I would have to adjust my way of working to suit F-Spot. And we are not talking about anything fundamental here, we are talking about the location where the pictures are stored! From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 11 08:55:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1333B00E2 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:55:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09811-06 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:55:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B55F3B00BB for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:55:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5BCsXfR007188 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:54:33 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: James Carroll In-Reply-To: References: <1150020822.5937.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:54:40 +1000 Message-Id: <1150030480.5937.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:55:12 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 04:40 -0600, James Carroll wrote: > On 6/11/06, Bengt Thuree wrote: > > Have you done the "make install" ? > > Yes. But I wasn't sure from which directory to run it. From your > directions, I don't think it's clear if I should be in > ~/development/f-spot/f-spot/src > or > ~/development/f-spot/f-spot/ Ok, I updated the instructions a bit. You should do the "make all", "make install", or "make all install" from the f-spot directory. Not the src directory. > > Either way, I ran it in both (I assume the Makefile in the parent > directory calls the Makefile in the subdirectory) and I still get the > same error. Do I need to run it as root (with sudo)? No need to run it as root (sudo), since you specified a target directory which is writable by your user. > > > F-Spot will look for some libraries in > the /home/james/unstable/f-spot > directory even if you run the uninstalled version. > > What is the "uninstalled version"? To me, it seems impossible to run > a program that's not installed on your computer. Is this a common > term when working with projects under development, in which you might > have one version "installed" and other versions in various > directories, that aren't "installed"? F-Spot can be run after you have done a "make all", by changing directory to src, and then give the command "./f-spot --uninstalled" But it will need some library files which it tries to find from the installation directory, so you will have to have done at least one "make install" My target directory's lib files are the following: > > ls /opt/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/ > FlickrNet.dll libfspoteog.so libfspotjpegtran.so.0 libgphoto2-sharp.dll > f-spot.exe libfspoteog.so.0 libfspotjpegtran.so.0.0.0 libgphoto2-sharp.dll.config > f-spot.exe.config libfspoteog.so.0.0.0 libfspot.la SemWeb.dll > libfspot.a libfspotjpegtran.a libfspot.so > libfspoteog.a libfspotjpegtran.la libfspot.so.0 > libfspoteog.la libfspotjpegtran.so libfspot.so.0.0.0 Can you perhaps send the console commands and output when you try and run the CVS version? (including how you start f-spot) /Bengt From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 13:12:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E953B01E3 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:12:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23016-08 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2553B01AA for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:12:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so795377nfc for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:11:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=jmJsArqQVOiw7tOxqiMXvx0gwSNK42zV+zrK/jnf39AUtWZdTMvDsGoDqhZZXYC9RQphNlZ+iPRtUJ8WZUyJ66FiB8HiuD766aExGbt5I6ub/JCTLSXUYjS6Rg5oUp5D0xb0GHDRMCF9+d66cy3gikrM1pNcEhTW5ELUZEQVZzU= Received: by 10.48.213.1 with SMTP id l1mr4142637nfg; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:11:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C0A840.access.telenet.be ( [84.192.168.64]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10sm5595991nfb.2006.06.11.10.11.40; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:11:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:11:39 +0200 Message-Id: <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.263 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.337, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.263 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 17:12:24 -0000 Hi Janne, On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 14:31 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs are > unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, F-Spot > constantly fights against me. > > So I have a bunch of photos on my computer. They are NOT in my > home-folder, but rather in /multimedia/pics. This way they are > accessible to my wife as well. And in that directory, they are also > divided among different folders, named after the subject. This way I can > browse the pictures in filemanager as well, should the need arise. > Sounds simple enough? Yes it does. But why is this setup so difficult > for F-Spot to handle? > > I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the > import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, select > "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to photos-folder", > and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. After > the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is it? > Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem > (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to select > "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to find > out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me where > those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are located > in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the date > of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be > in /multimedia/pics/ > > I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the Photos-folder. > Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same set > of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I edit any > of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my > home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. > > I just re-tried the import, after I deleted the photos-folder from my > home. And again it copied the files to my home. I then deleted the > photos-folder again, and the thumbnails were still visible in F-Spot, > but full-size photos were not. > > Why can't I do something as simple as this: Tell F-spot to import photos > from certain folder and NOT copy the files ANYWHERE. Just import the > photos, but leave the actual files where they are! > > IIRC I ONCE managed to make F-spot really use the /multimedia/pics, but > even then, if I imported pics from my camera, F-Spot always imported > them to /home/photos. So my pictures were split among two locations, > when I really want to have all my pics in one location. > > Why is this so hard? It feels like that F-Spot has certain way of > working, and it wont budge from that way. And I would have to adjust my > way of working to suit F-Spot. And we are not talking about anything > fundamental here, we are talking about the location where the pictures > are stored! Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: 1. count to ten, think of the possibility that you might have bumped into a bug 2. ask someone on irc, or on the mailing list to see if they could reproduce the behaviour 3. file a bug in bugzilla.gnome.org so people could take care of it I think that all this negative energy isn't going to get you anywhere. Regards, Thomas From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 16:19:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751723B0159 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:19:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32157-09 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:19:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930A63B00CA for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:19:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so805830nfe for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:18:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=d8C1FvMddnGIX2+QzDT+AsXHSpw4RGo8zrMlVNqTE4lLcGwFNq6RS3tx6HYRWazxU5bj6kGIFubTj+/wRfVnG/EVzQyd5CFCjdTDK8vpBHa1a0ABmt/ICj237PdEomTrpGS8nlfKlvc4TiBAncyT6PSP2cHh4FlZZ4JDjRpVT7U= Received: by 10.48.213.11 with SMTP id l11mr4233187nfg; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C0A840.access.telenet.be ( [84.192.168.64]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x1sm5709776nfb.2006.06.11.12.49.38; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:49:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 21:49:37 +0200 Message-Id: <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.323 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.277, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.323 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:19:49 -0000 Hi Janne, On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 19:11 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long > > rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: > > I apologize for my negativity. I really do. I had just spent quite a bit > of time importing pictures, only to find out that I had bunch of photos > in place where I did not want them. So I was quite pissed off when I > wrote my initial message. > I understand you were pissed off, but admit you were a bit hard ;-) > > 2. ask someone on irc, or on the mailing list to see if they could > > reproduce the behaviour > > Well, I thought that I just described my problem. > Yeah, you _kind of_ described your problem, but you left out a lot of details: * what version of f-spot are you running? * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your miserable state :-p What I suggest you do is the following: * remove the f-spot sqlite db, it's ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db * re-start f-spot, perform the import again but uncheck the "copy" checkbox _before_ you select a folder to import from * open the f-spot database by executing $sqlite ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db * perform a select * from photos go and look at the paths that appear in the output: do they point to your original directory or to the local ~/Photos dir? Regards, Thomas From m487396@rocketmail.com Sun Jun 11 16:24:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB4E3B0422 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:24:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32591-08 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.83]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA3033B026B for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:24:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23382 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jun 2006 20:23:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rocketmail.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZtGEKjbe8SmlcRnL6JNb8V7bOO7XXZ2d1xVZDU1DEL+EzwT1v85Mi/nMmPonGIL+rfPO7KjBC9fPSOTIeThLPgpBcVYIjRmVoLjnlJ26QUCuI7ftsF7QuruflaRPhHAz/dYYGsnljFS7BBMjNKJHzMuBoW51Nd/qBbRWHUKFydE= ; Message-ID: <20060611202351.23380.qmail@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [211.31.121.246] by web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 06:23:51 EST Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 06:23:51 +1000 (EST) From: "Mark A. Bell" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.487 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.088, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.487 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:24:41 -0000 Hi Janne, I don't know enough about f-spot to configure it correctly for you, but it sounds like gthumb would do the kind of things you want. gthumb http://gthumb.sourceforge.net/features.html regards, - mark sydney, australia http://www.flickr.com/photos/m487396 Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 14:31 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs > are > > unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, > F-Spot > > constantly fights against me. > > > > So I have a bunch of photos on my computer. They are NOT in my > > home-folder, but rather in /multimedia/pics. This way they are > > accessible to my wife as well. And in that directory, they are also > > divided among different folders, named after the subject. This way > I can > > browse the pictures in filemanager as well, should the need arise. > > Sounds simple enough? Yes it does. But why is this setup so > difficult > > for F-Spot to handle? > > > > I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the > > import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, > select > > "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to > photos-folder", > > and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. > After > > the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is > it? > > Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem > > (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to > select > > "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to > find > > out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me > where > > those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are > located > > in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the > date > > of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be > > in /multimedia/pics/ > > > > I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the > Photos-folder. > > Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same > set > > of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I > edit any > > of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my > > home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. > > > > I just re-tried the import, after I deleted the photos-folder from > my > > home. And again it copied the files to my home. I then deleted the > > photos-folder again, and the thumbnails were still visible in > F-Spot, > > but full-size photos were not. > > > > Why can't I do something as simple as this: Tell F-spot to import > photos > > from certain folder and NOT copy the files ANYWHERE. Just import > the > > photos, but leave the actual files where they are! > > > > IIRC I ONCE managed to make F-spot really use the /multimedia/pics, > but > > even then, if I imported pics from my camera, F-Spot always > imported > > them to /home/photos. So my pictures were split among two > locations, > > when I really want to have all my pics in one location. > > > > Why is this so hard? It feels like that F-Spot has certain way of > > working, and it wont budge from that way. And I would have to > adjust my > > way of working to suit F-Spot. And we are not talking about > anything > > fundamental here, we are talking about the location where the > pictures > > are stored! Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com From suser.koolinus@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 19:18:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D6B3B0346 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07664-10 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA343B01CC for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:18:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id s2so2120990uge for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:18:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=NZ0TIAm0g+h+U15yh1RHHAeDqDs08Kt85AgWgdvYYkHW2mbbHdcPFhJ8G8A0SqngkqX09zpA20u0TdVmVwaNXYPP9+6Pz745RzlGi7OrM7rM+C4tUm6O+PaeGh8aYIO7mBViLeu2wNsnCFo80ZMUo88F2wlXeaVU1YyXASb9H4U= Received: by 10.67.101.10 with SMTP id d10mr4592676ugm; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:08:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.46.2? ( [151.49.12.117]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q40sm4531169ugc.2006.06.11.16.08.01; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:08:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:08:27 +0200 Message-Id: <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.243 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.201, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.243 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 23:18:58 -0000 Il giorno dom, 11/06/2006 alle 21.49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen ha scritto: > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > Well, I thought that I just described my problem. > Yeah, you _kind of_ described your problem, but you left out a lot of > details: > > * what version of f-spot are you running? > * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? > * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your > miserable state :-p Hi Thomas, the "importing" behaviour described by Janne in his mail has always occurred to me too. I have my images in /mnt/fat32partition/images. Importing them in F-Spot has always caused the creation of a /home/user/Photos directory exactly the *same* size of /mnt/fat32part/images before said and with an internal structure as: /home/user/Photos/year/month/day/filename.jpg This has happened to me at least with Ubuntu 5.10, Ubuntu 6.06, Mandriva 2006, SUSE 10.0 and Fedora Core 5, rightafter importing images in F-Spot at it's first launch. So it gotta be a pretty common problem. I didn't find Janne's mail offensive or anything than pissed off. Now we should understand if he's signaled a bug or a wanted feature ;-) -- nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito http://koolinus.wordpress.com http://www.koolinus.net "If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy." Linux Registered User #293182 From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 11 20:27:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692BA3B00B7 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:27:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10384-06 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:27:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (1-1-3-2a.ehn.lk.bostream.se [82.183.137.113]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04BB3B00ED for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:27:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by denton.thuree.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDACA3AA9B for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 02:00:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 194.237.142.5 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bengt) by denton.thuree.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:00:51 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <17672.194.237.142.5.1150070451.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> In-Reply-To: <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:00:51 +0900 (JST) From: "Bengt Thuree" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-thuree-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-thuree-MailScanner-From: bengt@thuree.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 00:27:31 -0000 On Må, 2006-06-12, 08:08, nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito skrev: > Il giorno dom, 11/06/2006 alle 21.49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen ha > scritto: > >> On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: >> > Well, I thought that I just described my problem. > >> Yeah, you _kind of_ described your problem, but you left out a lot of >> details: >> >> * what version of f-spot are you running? >> * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? >> * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your >> miserable state :-p > > > Hi Thomas, > the "importing" behaviour described by Janne in his mail has always > occurred to me too. > > I have my images in /mnt/fat32partition/images. > > Importing them in F-Spot has always caused the creation of > a /home/user/Photos directory exactly the *same* size > of /mnt/fat32part/images before said and with an internal structure > as: /home/user/Photos/year/month/day/filename.jpg That is what copy usually does :) And since we are talking about photos, it is way better to be safe than sorry. But Larry is working on changing the import handling. > > I didn't find Janne's mail offensive or anything than pissed off. Now we > should understand if he's signaled a bug or a wanted feature ;-) To be honest, I agree with Thomas in this one. The mail did come out a bit harsh perhaps. Thomas had some nice suggestions as well. But totally agreeing with the frustration of Janne and others though. Tried to reply yesterday with a number of bugs that are related to this issue, but the mail seems not to have arrived to f-spot-list yet. So, here comes the bugs http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333503 (which is your problem) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337250 (specify Photos place) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318519 (lots of complaints) etc.... Anyway, nothing bad from it, and it did also highlight the fact that F-Spot is popular and becoming more so. With this comes more people using it, and a lot more different ways. F-Spot needs to handle this one way or another. /Bengt From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Mon Jun 12 01:04:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D953B00A7 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:04:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19740-03 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:04:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C721B3B000D for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:03:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h2so829310nfe for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:03:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=XZwv6v70/NHOz01EwFUE6ornrJrDXriY6+7SkIj7j5oCDgDFiLQqN7lDNmOMISDVXbdAlM+QVaHoFSG91noL+dpavcs41jRrQzfms+EzLtj2hDA0xNkUP9uADc3OgEI1QUpcCGpVmkzOzunb+mW4lLjdFiDOZvHy3wdWJY9QvFU= Received: by 10.49.92.15 with SMTP id u15mr4521889nfl; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:03:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C0A840.access.telenet.be ( [84.192.168.64]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l21sm4214223nfc.2006.06.11.22.03.10; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:03:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: "nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito" In-Reply-To: <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:03:09 +0200 Message-Id: <1150088589.6432.4.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.364 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.236, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.364 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 05:04:03 -0000 Hi all, On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 01:08 +0200, nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito wrote: > Hi Thomas, > the "importing" behaviour described by Janne in his mail has always > occurred to me too. > > I have my images in /mnt/fat32partition/images. > > Importing them in F-Spot has always caused the creation of > a /home/user/Photos directory exactly the *same* size > of /mnt/fat32part/images before said and with an internal structure > as: /home/user/Photos/year/month/day/filename.jpg > What I think has happened to both of you is the following. When you open the import dialog and select a directory before you uncheck the "copy" button, I think - but I might be wrong, I would have to check - that f-spot copies the photos to the Photos directory. If you then uncheck the button and perform the actual import, everything is imported correctly, but the Photos directory is not cleaned up accordingly. > This has happened to me at least with Ubuntu 5.10, Ubuntu 6.06, Mandriva > 2006, SUSE 10.0 and Fedora Core 5, rightafter importing images in F-Spot > at it's first launch. So it gotta be a pretty common problem. > If I'm not mistaken, there have been several fixes for this in CVS head, which are not in any released version yet. Larry, can you confirm this? Best Regards, Thomas From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 12 07:12:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB01A3B0061 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32130-01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:12:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.136]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F813B0078 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:12:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.185]) by fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5BCiZD7003471 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:44:36 +1000 Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5BCdNrY002229 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:39:25 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:39:27 +1000 Message-Id: <1150029567.5937.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:12:33 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 14:31 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs are > unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, F-Spot > constantly fights against me. Well, the version number is still far from 1.0.0 :) > > I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the > import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, select > "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to photos-folder", > and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. After > the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is it? > Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem > (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to select > "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to find > out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me where > those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are located > in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the date > of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be > in /multimedia/pics/ > > I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the Photos-folder. > Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same set > of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I edit any > of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my > home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. Do the following: 1) Click on PLUS or choose File -> Import 2) Unselect COPY to Photos 3) Choose location of the photos to be imported 4) Perform the import And yes, there are numerous bugs in Bugzilla on the import function. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333503 (which is your problem) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337250 (specify Photos place) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318519 (lots of complaints) Larry has mention he is rewriting it to fix most or all of the problems. And yes, there is also a patch in allowing you to specify your own Photos location. F-Spot is a desktop application, and as such it is not that easy to share everything around. It is one thing to share the actual photos, but F-Spot also have a database located in ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db where all the tags are stored for quick reference. And yes, there has been a number of bugs/mails about this as well. Please feel free to file bugs in BugZilla, since then the chance that they are fixed is that much higher :) /bengt From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 12 09:26:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3D53B00D4 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:26:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04111-04 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:26:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7513B0010 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:26:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5CDPCVK022421 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:25:12 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: James Carroll In-Reply-To: References: <1150020822.5937.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:25:12 +1000 Message-Id: <1150118713.5937.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:26:05 -0000 Hi James Try the following 1) checkout a new version of F-Spot 2) cd to the just checkout directory 3) autogen.sh --prefix=/home//unstable/f-spot 4) make all 5) make install 6) cd ~/unstable/f-spot/bin 7) ./f-spot if this do not work, perhaps you can try to remove everything on your computer related to F-Spot? apt-get remove f-spot updatedb locate f-spot, and remove everything, and then start from 1 again? /Bengt From janne.ojaniemi@nbl.fi Mon Jun 12 14:02:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070DB3B08DE for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:02:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21917-09 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.nblnetworks.fi (smtp2.nblnetworks.fi [217.30.182.231]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024783B0504 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 12:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (xdsl-176-84.nblnetworks.fi [217.30.176.84]) by smtp2.nblnetworks.fi (8.13.1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k5CGtEtI005527; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:55:14 +0300 From: Janne Ojaniemi To: Thomas Van Machelen In-Reply-To: <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:52:41 +0300 Message-Id: <1150131161.7085.6.camel@serenity> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:02:32 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 21:49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > Hi Janne, > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 19:11 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > > Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long > > > rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: > > > > I apologize for my negativity. I really do. I had just spent quite a bit > > of time importing pictures, only to find out that I had bunch of photos > > in place where I did not want them. So I was quite pissed off when I > > wrote my initial message. > > > > I understand you were pissed off, but admit you were a bit hard ;-) Yeah, I was :(... > * what version of f-spot are you running? 0.11.1 > * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? It's the one that is available for Ubuntu. 0.11.1-1ubuntu1 > * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your > miserable state :-p I had bunch of pics in /multimedia/pics. I used the import-tool in F-spot to import them to F-spot. I did not want those pics to be copied from their present location, so I unselect the "copy to Photos-fodler". The problem it seems was that I unselected the "copy to..." AFTER I had selected the folder to import. When I unchecked it before the folder-selection, all works like it should :) From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Mon Jun 12 14:24:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E481B3B010E for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:24:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24480-01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC003B011A for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:24:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so955622nfc for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:24:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=kzTYyWOWYfIRDqbJi4IFTF9LCkkNOSdUcXlzQuHyZ7wffcZSKzrQce/Bjx6C6jJ5NJoU+Bl9wpyO/uPgKrJaL38IfTMWNmHH0cl31v2ns4ytzXT7lt1CZR89YdMA527OnedouvizgHC3o1i1J+lT44H0rJ/su2B4d7WtEFFlzq4= Received: by 10.49.3.16 with SMTP id f16mr5126203nfi; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C0A840.access.telenet.be ( [84.192.168.64]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id b1sm5919141nfe.2006.06.12.11.24.08; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:24:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150131161.7085.6.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> <1150131161.7085.6.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:24:07 +0200 Message-Id: <1150136647.5262.0.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.395 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.205, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.395 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:24:45 -0000 On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 19:52 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 21:49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > Hi Janne, > > > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 19:11 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > > > Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long > > > > rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: > > > > > > I apologize for my negativity. I really do. I had just spent quite a bit > > > of time importing pictures, only to find out that I had bunch of photos > > > in place where I did not want them. So I was quite pissed off when I > > > wrote my initial message. > > > > > > > I understand you were pissed off, but admit you were a bit hard ;-) > > Yeah, I was :(... > > > * what version of f-spot are you running? > > 0.11.1 > > > * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? > > It's the one that is available for Ubuntu. 0.11.1-1ubuntu1 > > > * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your > > miserable state :-p > > I had bunch of pics in /multimedia/pics. I used the import-tool in > F-spot to import them to F-spot. I did not want those pics to be copied > from their present location, so I unselect the "copy to Photos-fodler". > The problem it seems was that I unselected the "copy to..." AFTER I had > selected the folder to import. When I unchecked it before the > folder-selection, all works like it should :) > Cool, and as Larry confirmed this is fixed in cvs head, everybody's happy. Nice :-) From lewing@novell.com Mon Jun 12 15:26:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94DE3B00AF for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:26:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27322-01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:26:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6848E3B0010 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:26:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21900 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2006 18:24:00 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jun 2006 18:24:00 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:32:12 -0500 Message-Id: <1150137133.3676.21.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:26:57 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 14:31 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs are > unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, F-Spot > constantly fights against me. > > So I have a bunch of photos on my computer. They are NOT in my > home-folder, but rather in /multimedia/pics. This way they are > accessible to my wife as well. And in that directory, they are also > divided among different folders, named after the subject. This way I can > browse the pictures in filemanager as well, should the need arise. > Sounds simple enough? Yes it does. But why is this setup so difficult > for F-Spot to handle? > > I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the > import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, select > "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to photos-folder", > and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. After > the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is it? > Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem > (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to select > "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to find > out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me where > those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are located > in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the date > of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be > in /multimedia/pics/ > > I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the Photos-folder. > Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same set > of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I edit any > of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my > home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. > > I just re-tried the import, after I deleted the photos-folder from my > home. And again it copied the files to my home. I then deleted the > photos-folder again, and the thumbnails were still visible in F-Spot, > but full-size photos were not. > > Why can't I do something as simple as this: Tell F-spot to import photos > from certain folder and NOT copy the files ANYWHERE. Just import the > photos, but leave the actual files where they are! > > IIRC I ONCE managed to make F-spot really use the /multimedia/pics, but > even then, if I imported pics from my camera, F-Spot always imported > them to /home/photos. So my pictures were split among two locations, > when I really want to have all my pics in one location. > > Why is this so hard? It feels like that F-Spot has certain way of > working, and it wont budge from that way. And I would have to adjust my > way of working to suit F-Spot. And we are not talking about anything > fundamental here, we are talking about the location where the pictures > are stored! > The copy thing is a bug it was fixed a few weeks ago in cvs. There had been a couple of unsuccessful attempts to fix it before that. Selecting the import directories when using f-spot to do the import is on the list of things that will probably go in but hasn't been done (completely) yet. There are patches that have been sent to this list in the last few days that start to address the issue. I'm sorry you have found using f-spot so frustrating, but I can't do much more to help than try to resolve the problems. --Larry From lewing@novell.com Mon Jun 12 15:33:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4463B0078 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:33:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27527-02 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90DEB3B00AF for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21907 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2006 18:31:56 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jun 2006 18:31:56 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Thomas Van Machelen In-Reply-To: <1150088589.6432.4.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> <1150088589.6432.4.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:40:08 -0500 Message-Id: <1150137608.3676.31.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:33:14 -0000 On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 07:03 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > Hi all, > > On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 01:08 +0200, nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito wrote: > > Hi Thomas, > > the "importing" behaviour described by Janne in his mail has always > > occurred to me too. > > > > I have my images in /mnt/fat32partition/images. > > > > Importing them in F-Spot has always caused the creation of > > a /home/user/Photos directory exactly the *same* size > > of /mnt/fat32part/images before said and with an internal structure > > as: /home/user/Photos/year/month/day/filename.jpg > > > > What I think has happened to both of you is the following. When you > open the import dialog and select a directory before you uncheck the > "copy" button, I think - but I might be wrong, I would have to check - > that f-spot copies the photos to the Photos directory. If you then > uncheck the button and perform the actual import, everything is imported > correctly, but the Photos directory is not cleaned up accordingly. > Right this is roughly the version of the bug that dapper shipped with iirc. The latest code fixes all this hoop jumping as well. > > This has happened to me at least with Ubuntu 5.10, Ubuntu 6.06, Mandriva > > 2006, SUSE 10.0 and Fedora Core 5, rightafter importing images in F-Spot > > at it's first launch. So it gotta be a pretty common problem. > > > > If I'm not mistaken, there have been several fixes for this in CVS head, > which are not in any released version yet. Larry, can you confirm this? > I can, and as I've said in this an other messages this is fixed in cvs trunk and stable. I'd happily release a new stable version today if I had any reason to believe the various distributions would ship it, but they are all currently frozen so the utility of doing that is questionable. --Larry From lewing@novell.com Mon Jun 12 15:54:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBB83B00E5 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:54:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28147-01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E733B0078 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21861 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2006 18:06:42 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jun 2006 18:06:42 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Thomas Van Machelen In-Reply-To: <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:14:49 -0500 Message-Id: <1150136089.3676.6.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:54:51 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 21:49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > Hi Janne, > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 19:11 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > > Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long > > > rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: > > > > I apologize for my negativity. I really do. I had just spent quite a bit > > of time importing pictures, only to find out that I had bunch of photos > > in place where I did not want them. So I was quite pissed off when I > > wrote my initial message. > > > > I understand you were pissed off, but admit you were a bit hard ;-) > > > > 2. ask someone on irc, or on the mailing list to see if they could > > > reproduce the behaviour > > > > Well, I thought that I just described my problem. > > > > Yeah, you _kind of_ described your problem, but you left out a lot of > details: > > * what version of f-spot are you running? > * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? > * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your > miserable state :-p > > What I suggest you do is the following: > * remove the f-spot sqlite db, it's ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db > * re-start f-spot, perform the import again but uncheck the "copy" > checkbox _before_ you select a folder to import from > * open the f-spot database by executing > $sqlite ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db > * perform a select * from photos go and look at the paths that appear in > the output: do they point to your original directory or to the local > ~/Photos dir? Just to be clear, this "copy check doesn't work bug" should be fixed in both head and stable for about two weeks. For those interested in having and f-spot that isn't quite so buggy as what is currently shipping in dapper and/or fc5 but who don't want to track the cutting edge use the fspot_0_1_branch in cvs. At lot of things have been fixed since 0.1.11. --Larry From stephane@delcroix.org Tue Jun 13 04:09:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339AB3B00C9 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15736-04 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:09:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4767B3B008F for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:09:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4157 invoked by uid 503); 13 Jun 2006 08:09:45 -0000 Received: from b7.ovh.net (HELO mail150.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.57) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2006 08:09:45 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2006 08:07:58 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2006 08:07:55 -0000 From: Stephane Delcroix To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 10:08:23 +0200 Message-Id: <1150186103.5901.15.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.181 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.275, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558] X-Spam-Score: -1.181 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Speeding up F-Spot X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:09:21 -0000 I'd just like to point your attention on two patches sleeping in bugzilla. Both are related to speed up f-spot and responsiveness. If you only have time to try and report on two patches in the following days, choose those ones !!! WorkerThread + Database threading, bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337724, patch http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=66967 : A hard name for a very good patch. Allow f-spot to write metadata in the background (thing about tagging, adjusting time, changing orientation, ...). You can even stop f-spot with some background action remaining. Next time you start, the process will continue. Thumbs up to Ruben! Progressive redraw, bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343856, patch http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=67011 : Precache images when browsing in Edit View or in FullScreen View. No more apparent redraw. Amazing! Thanks wjbaird! rgds, Stephane From gcgaf-f-spot-list@m.gmane.org Tue Jun 13 22:01:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C9D3B00D4 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:01:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13167-07 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4522C3B00C8 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FqKfq-0004If-7N for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:00:02 +0200 Received: from dsl-165-255-37.telkomadsl.co.za ([165.165.255.37]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:00:02 +0200 Received: from nmarais by dsl-165-255-37.telkomadsl.co.za with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:00:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Neilen Marais Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 03:34:29 +0200 Lines: 181 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dsl-165-255-37.telkomadsl.co.za User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Big Collections/Complex Meta-data/Is F-spot (going) to be for me? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:01:05 -0000 Hi I have a pretty big image database (about 12k photos) with fairly complex meta-data maintained in KPhotoAlbum. I've been eying F-spot for a while, since it has a very active community, looks pretty and seems quite nice to use. I also prefer GNOME apps all else being equal. KPhotoAlbum is not quite as smooth, but it's interface seems more "scalable" to me, while F-spot tries (and manages very well) to make easy stuff easy. I'm also quite excited by F-spot's ability to handle picture versions and RAW files. I don't think scalable and easy need to be mutually exclusive though. I'll list some features in KPhotoAlbum that I find makes it very useful for large/complex collections, and why they are useful. Perhaps I can convince the right people that it may be useful to implement something similar (if not identical) in F-Spot. These comments refer to F-Spot 0.1.11, as shipped with Ubuntu Dapper. I'll refer to KPhotoAlbum as KP from here on to save typing. Separate "Namespaces" ===================== F-spot seems to require the last level of a tag to be unique. Besides offending my personal sense of logical aesthetics, it also poses practical problems ;P In KP, each top-level tag is called a Category, and the tags within each Category are completely independent. In my KP database I have a "People" category for people visible in the photo, and a "Photographer" category for the person who took the picture. Of course People can also be Photographers, but usually not at the same time. Also the total number of photographers aren't the same as the total number of peoplo. It's also possible that unrelated tags can coincidentally have the same name. E.g. if you travel all over the world and meet people from all over the world, it's not unlikely that some placename in one country may be the same as someones name in another. In fact, identical placenames are quite common. Places.USA.Alabama.Greenville is not the same as Places.USA.California.Greenville (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cities#Most_common_city_names for more fun.) One can disambiguate by having Greenville_CA, but I already told you it's in California, damnit ;) Actually this is a problem in KP as well, since it's doesn't do any hierarchy within a category. It does have membership groups that does something similar, but that does not solve this problem. Membership Groups ----------------- I think F-Spot's hierarchical tags can fill the same need, but I'll describe them so its clear what I'm talking about. I'll use the Places category as an example. Say the location is "Friendly Bob's House" in Pinelands (the town), Western Cape (the state), South Africa. In KP I can make the location "South Africa" a membership group. Then I can assign all the states in South Africa (that I have in my DB anyway) to this group (e.g. Western Cape, Gauteng, etc.). Then I make Western Cape another membership group, and assign all the cities to it (e.g. Pinelands, Cape Town, etc.). I make Pinelands a membership group, and add "Friendly Bob's house" to it. Now I tag the picture with only "Friendly Bob's house". Because of the membership groups, KP knows the picture also belongs to "Pinelands", "Western Cape" and "South Africa", and will be found by searches on any of those 4 locations. Of course, Locations.South Africa.Western Cape.Pinelands would do just as well. It will also be more explicit (good), and if F-Spot supported it, would be separate from Locations.South Africa.Kwazulu Natal.Pinelands (which also exists!) Default "And" searching ======================= >From reading the list it seems that F-Spot will get more searching options soon, but IMHO if you can have only one choice, "and" would be better than "or". I hope that when the more featureful searching comes, there will be an easy way to make the default "and". Restrict Tags when Searching ============================ This kind of goes together with the default "and" searching. KP's main interface shows you a list of top level tags, along with how many entries each has. e.g. Locations - 10 People - 6 Then you select People -> "Friendly Bob" You can then look at all the pictures containing Bob, or keep selecting search tags. However, all the tags that never occur with Bob are removed, e.g. Locations - 4 People - 3 I.o.w. you see only the Locations that Bob's been photographed at and only the people that have been photographed with Bob. Now select Locations -> "Friendly Bob's House", and look at the pictures of Bob at his house, or continue: Locations (greyed out, since there are no others) People - 2 Then you could choose to look at pictures of Bob with his wife, or Bob with his son. I like this feature for two reasons. 1) If you're and-searching, there's no point in seeing the tags that will result in no pictures being found. 2) Its nice to see, for instance, how many people you have photographed at a certain location. Scalable Tag Selection ====================== It's hard to compare KP directly to F-Spot here, since the interface paradigms are quite different, so I'll just sketch my problem. In KP I have 9 Categories (i.e. top level tags), and some of them have many subtags. E.g. Events - 143 Keywords - 21 Locations - 237 Persons - 203 Photographer - 33 I've only had a camera for about two years, but found I like both photography and detailed tagging. I'm sure these numbers will have grown considerably in 10 years time! I will always have at least one tag from each of the 5 categories I listed here attached to every picture, so it is critical that tags can be selected from a large selection easily. KP makes the default way of finding a tag incremental search, and also sorts tags in order of last use by default. It also manages each category completely separately which means the 100's of "Persons" tags don't make it hard to pick a tag from the "Keywords" category. While I haven't dealt with that many tags in F-Spot, my feeling is the tag toolbar/tree on the left of F-Spot will be fairly well suited to dealing with many tags. Other places, where there are flat lists with all tag hierarchies exploded, will probably be unpleasant to use. What I'd need to switch ======================= Like you care ;P Anyway, my needs in order of priority are 1) "Fully qualified" tag uniqueness (i.e. People.A != Places.A) 2) "And" searching 3) Tag Restrictions while and-searching 4) Improved UI for selecting from large numbers of tags 1) is completely critical, since I can't losslesly move my current data into F-Spot without it. 2) is pretty important. 3) and 4) would be nice to have, but not that important. If other people think it's a good idea, should I make feature requests on the F-spot bugzilla, or how should I go ahead? Thanks for listening Neilen -- you know its kind of tragic we live in the new world but we've lost the magic -- Battery 9 (www.battery9.co.za) From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 16 05:48:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633443B000B for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 05:48:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24488-02 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 05:48:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B126D3B0011 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 05:48:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1403732uge for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.17.1 with SMTP id 1mr940549huq; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:37:44 +0200 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Importing photos with tags MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:48:45 -0000 I have several hundered photos that were tagged in a Windows program (BrilliantPhoto). I can extract the tags with a script and create an XML file or SQL dump for the tags. How can I then import that into the F-spot database? Any documentation on the F-spot database would be helpful. Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://gmail-com.com From stephane@delcroix.org Fri Jun 16 10:22:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D667D3B0012 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:22:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31319-04 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:22:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09E23B0007 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:22:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19469 invoked by uid 503); 16 Jun 2006 14:23:03 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail56.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2006 14:23:02 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2006 14:20:45 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2006 14:20:42 -0000 Subject: plugin support for F-Spot From: Stephane Delcroix To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 16:20:57 +0200 Message-Id: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.500004/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.178 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.272, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558] X-Spam-Score: -1.178 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:22:25 -0000 Hi list, I've spend some time lately to develop a plugin facility for F-Spot. So far, I've a virtual plugin class, some methods to load plugins, and a testplugin. Thanks to Thomas and his solution to bug #344534, I've also a way to compile plugins without the F-Spot sources. The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my guess), but some people need this. I'll be happy to see any comments, remarks, requirements... regards, Stephane From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Fri Jun 16 21:25:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCE03B0204 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:25:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30558-07 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:25:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE40D3B01CC for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:25:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1829050uge for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.10 with SMTP id d10mr3246797ugm; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.27.18 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606161816l8e942a7w9c1623407f6fd397@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 05:16:36 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: plugin support for F-Spot In-Reply-To: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.909 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.133, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.909 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 01:25:33 -0000 On 6/16/06, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as > many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to > my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my > guess), but some people need this. Plug-in architecture is a very, very useful thing :) But in your approach it's not limited to exporting functions, right? Alexandre From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 16 21:34:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128F03B0208 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:34:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30551-08 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:34:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (1-1-3-2a.ehn.lk.bostream.se [82.183.137.113]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FC33B0234 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:34:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by denton.thuree.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E173AA93 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 03:08:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 194.237.142.10 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bengt) by denton.thuree.com with HTTP; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:08:46 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <54022.194.237.142.10.1150506526.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> In-Reply-To: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> References: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:08:46 +0900 (JST) Subject: Re: plugin support for F-Spot From: "Bengt Thuree" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-thuree-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-thuree-MailScanner-From: bengt@thuree.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 01:34:22 -0000 On Fr, 2006-06-16, 23:20, Stephane Delcroix skrev: > Hi list, > > I've spend some time lately to develop a plugin facility for F-Spot. So > far, I've a virtual plugin class, some methods to load plugins, and a > testplugin. Thanks to Thomas and his solution to bug #344534, I've also > a way to compile plugins without the F-Spot sources. > > The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as > many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to > my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my > guess), but some people need this. > > I'll be happy to see any comments, remarks, requirements... Cool, this will come in very handy I think. Also another plugin area would be to import old data. I can see a lot of users are having existing data in another format, and they would like to import it to F-Spot. F-Spot will probably handle the main import areas in core, but Mr XXX Super Duper Photo Software's format. Have you raised an enhancement bug so we kan track this one? /Bengt From bengt@thuree.com Sat Jun 17 04:47:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7872D3B02F8 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 04:47:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14722-04 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 04:47:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail27.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail27.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.168]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC973B010F for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 04:47:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail27.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5H8jqUY013434; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:45:53 +1000 Subject: Re: Importing photos with tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:45:51 +1000 Message-Id: <1150533952.6150.8.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.526 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.074, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.526 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 08:47:13 -0000 > > Thanks, I'll look into that. I'm really a novice, what I can do is > extract the IPTC data that the tags are currently in with PHP and then > produce a text file (be it XML or SQL) to work with. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > Actually, have a look at the JPG file first. If the tags are stored in IPTC as well as in XMP format, you should be able to use the patch I wrote to let F-Spot read XMP data. IViewMedia Pro, were only supposed to store in IPTC as far as I understood, but they also stored the tags in XMP format. Also, I think that F-Spot has prepared to deal with IPTC tags as well. Have a look and see in IptcFile.cs, and see if you can create a new patch based on the XMP importer? Anyway, gthumb stores its tags in an xml file per photo, so you can take a look at that patch. Good Luck /Bengt From dotancohen@gmail.com Sat Jun 17 12:23:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDE23B000D for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26967-02 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0C53B00D5 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:23:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2011270uge for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:22:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.47.9 with SMTP id u9mr1409565huu; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 19:21:59 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Import/ Export of tags MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 16:23:20 -0000 As I'm trying to decide which photo organiser to use (between DigiKam, F-spot, and KPhotoAlbum) I would really appreciate the ability to move photos from one program to the other and to keep my tags intact. A user on the Digikam mailing list had mentioned that he would like to tag his photos 'in the field' on his laptop and to import them into the program when he gets home. I think that a kipi Import/ Export feature would solve both our problems. It would create an XML file similar to this: People*Ester People*Studies*Eli People*Studies*Anna Place*Haifa People*Ester People*Dotan People*Army*Jacob Place*Jerusalem This can easily be imported by any application, and it provides for hierarchical tags. (levels seperated by asteriks) What does the F-spot community think of this? Would you like to be able to work on the tags on the go and to import them later? And to easily move from application to application? This would also provide a secure way to back up the current sqlite database in an accessable manner. (any text editor could open it) Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com 332 From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 18 06:32:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3623B0967 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:32:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18535-06 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.136]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B8E3B071B for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail26.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail26.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.167]) by fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5GLVAwQ011181 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 07:31:10 +1000 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail26.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5GLU5TO023274; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 07:30:05 +1000 Subject: Re: Importing photos with tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:29:56 +1000 Message-Id: <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.528 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.072, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.528 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:32:28 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 11:37 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I have several hundered photos that were tagged in a Windows program > (BrilliantPhoto). I can extract the tags with a script and create an > XML file or SQL dump for the tags. How can I then import that into the > F-spot database? Any documentation on the F-spot database would be > helpful. > > Thanks in advance. > Hi there are two patches in bugzilla that enable importing existing GThumb metadata, and iView Media Pro meta data (in fact also existing F-Spot meta data). http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322366 - GThumb tags http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 - F-Spot tags Perhaps you can write a small patch your self? And create a bug in bugzilla and attach it to :) /Bengt From jordan.d.miller@gmail.com Sun Jun 18 07:11:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6DE33B09F5 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:11:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20389-08 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F023B0939 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:11:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2178963uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.8 with SMTP id d8mr4041428ugm; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.32.4 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:10:27 -0500 From: "Jordan Miller" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: F-spot user forum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8200_13353278.1150629027803" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.055 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_00_10=0.795, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: 0.055 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:14 -0000 ------=_Part_8200_13353278.1150629027803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot Project page if there isn't one already. I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum structure. Thoughts, Jordan ------=_Part_8200_13353278.1150629027803 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot Project page if there isn't one already.

I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum structure.

Thoughts,

Jordan
------=_Part_8200_13353278.1150629027803-- From drberg1000@gmail.com Sun Jun 18 11:11:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029813B0C2B for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32093-09 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B203B0C12 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1035507pyd for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.103.12 with SMTP id f12mr7129453pym; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.82.13 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:03:41 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: "Jordan Miller" Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.383 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.217, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.383 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:11:11 -0000 On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > Project page if there isn't one already. I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as familiar with the programming tools. --Dave > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > structure. > > Thoughts, > > Jordan > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > From ken@vandine.org Sun Jun 18 14:20:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931943B00B2 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:20:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07107-02 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239F63B000A for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.107] (cpe-071-065-240-185.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.240.185]) by ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5IHXuDe018625; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:33:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: F-spot user forum From: Ken VanDine To: David Berg In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:33:52 -0400 Message-Id: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.236 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.364, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.236 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:20:15 -0000 Actually, f-spot.org is a wiki. MediaWiki to be precise. I know MW has support for a forum like commenting system. Not sure what folks thing about using that. --Ken On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 10:03 -0500, David Berg wrote: > On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > > Project page if there isn't one already. > > I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow > documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as > familiar with the programming tools. > > --Dave > > > > > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > > structure. > > > > Thoughts, > > > > Jordan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 18 18:54:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD953B0071 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:54:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12735-04 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:54:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.193]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6591D3B00AF for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5IMrQQY020575 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:53:27 +1000 Subject: Re: F-spot user forum From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:53:26 +1000 Message-Id: <1150671206.5383.3.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.529 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.071, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.529 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:54:57 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 10:03 -0500, David Berg wrote: > On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > > Project page if there isn't one already. > > I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow > documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as > familiar with the programming tools. f-spot.org is a wiki.... > > --Dave > > > > > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > > structure. > > > > Thoughts, > > > > Jordan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Sun Jun 18 19:52:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAAD23B0308 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:52:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15600-10 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:52:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC7C3B0E41 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:50:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2307846uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.10 with SMTP id d10mr1288767ugm; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.27.18 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606181649t6dc94c14s1c97d0c9d48b301a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:49:16 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.005 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.037, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.005 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:52:21 -0000 On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > structure. Why would you choose forum over existing wiki for storing ideas? Alexandre From gcgaf-f-spot-list@m.gmane.org Sun Jun 18 20:07:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADEC43B0223 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:07:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16137-07 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10243B0182 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:07:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Fs7GI-0003iB-2J for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:05:03 +0200 Received: from p54a1afb2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.161.175.178]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:05:02 +0200 Received: from colin by p54a1afb2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:05:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Colin Marquardt Subject: Re: F-spot user forum Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:59:33 +0200 Organization: I'd rather call it chaos. 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X-Now-Playing: Orphaned Land / Sahara -- [05] Seasons Unite X-Jabber-UID: cmarqu (see http://www.jabber.org) X-Home-Page: http://www.marquardt-home.de X-GnuPG-Key: gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.us.pgp.net --recv-keys 5359F413 X-Fingerprint: 6D9B 01B4 F8B9 500F 3056 D74F D27F EBF5 5359 F413 Cancel-Lock: sha1:K6/SELyPp8F6RwGWPi+X9Qrpu/k= Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.577 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.024, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.577 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:07:13 -0000 "Jordan Miller" writes: > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > Project page if there isn't one already. > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > structure. If you think more about searching and reading, how's this?: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.f-spot/1578 Cheers, Colin From drberg1000@gmail.com Sun Jun 18 22:52:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929363B03A9 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21279-10 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:52:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B2F3B0210 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:52:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1125529pyd for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.127.15 with SMTP id e15mr7784197pyn; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.82.13 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:51:02 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: "Ken VanDine" Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.393 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.207, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.393 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:52:06 -0000 On 6/18/06, Ken VanDine wrote: > Actually, f-spot.org is a wiki. MediaWiki to be precise. I know MW has > support for a forum like commenting system. Not sure what folks thing > about using that. Looking closer at the website I do see that it says MediaWiki. Though there doesn't seem to be any way to create an account. The "Create an Account or Log In" link doesn't allow for account creation. I guess I'm also not used to sites where information can only be accessed through searching for it or using a direct link. Perhaps a mechanism to browse the wiki would be useful. Perhaps I'm missing something when navigating the website but by looking at the main pages and a few of the ones they link to I don't see anything that would indicate there is more to the site than what I can see by browsing. --Dave > --Ken > > > On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 10:03 -0500, David Berg wrote: > > On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > > > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > > > Project page if there isn't one already. > > > > I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow > > documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as > > familiar with the programming tools. > > > > --Dave > > > > > > > > > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > > > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > > > structure. > > > > > > Thoughts, > > > > > > Jordan > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > F-spot-list mailing list > > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > From dotancohen@gmail.com Mon Jun 19 00:39:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400D23B0D22 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:39:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24632-05 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:39:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D353B0B1B for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:39:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2369453uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.33.17 with SMTP id g17mr1774973hug; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:38:39 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.408 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.366, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.408 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 04:39:53 -0000 I would be willing to run an f-spot FAQ site if someone would help me verify the correctness of the answers. Anybody who is interested can email me off list. My last wiki project turned into a hammer-the-spammer chase. If anybody has any questions with answers for a FAQ, then email them to me. I'll start compiling them and put them on a website. I haven't yet registered a name, but as soon as I see interest in the site from the list members I'll register one and get it started. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Mon Jun 19 01:42:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11923B0D4C for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:42:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26495-08 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:41:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15E43B0D43 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2393587uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.100.17 with SMTP id c17mr3950298ugm; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.27.18 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:41:16 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.788 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.812, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.788 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:42:00 -0000 On 6/19/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I would be willing to run an f-spot FAQ site if someone would help me > verify the correctness of the answers. Anybody who is interested can > email me off list. > > My last wiki project turned into a hammer-the-spammer chase. If > anybody has any questions with answers for a FAQ, then email them to > me. I'll start compiling them and put them on a website. I haven't yet > registered a name, but as soon as I see interest in the site from the > list members I'll register one and get it started. Why on Earth? We can simply grant you commit access to wiki. Alexandre From dotancohen@gmail.com Mon Jun 19 02:11:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93A63B02CF for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27360-08 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:11:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902943B00F5 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:11:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2407385uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.45.13 with SMTP id s13mr1846834hus; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:10:05 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.08 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.520, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.08 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 06:11:09 -0000 On 19/06/06, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > > Why on Earth? > > We can simply grant you commit access to wiki. > > Alexandre Have you seen what fedorafaq.org has done for Fedora? It's all the same information that is available in Fedora's wiki, but in a Q/A format on a single page. Also, and this may sound rediculous but it's true, having both the wiki and a seperate FAQ site is two sites supporting f-spot, rather than one. Even if they have mostly the same information. That's important for people googling solutions or considering a switch to fspot. I, for one, have reservations about switching to a product with very little in the way of online documentation. This will add to the amount of online documentation resources available to the community. I don't want to replace the wiki, rather to make a seperate source of information that is more concice and easier to digest. Dotan Cohen From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 19 05:06:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9093B0014 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01595-07 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:06:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fallbackmx02.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.72]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611453B0004 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:06:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail30.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail30.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.193]) by fallbackmx02.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5HLg71e010142 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:42:08 +1000 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail30.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5HLaHle030266; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:36:18 +1000 Subject: Re: Import/ Export of tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:36:16 +1000 Message-Id: <1150580177.6150.24.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.53 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.070, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.53 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:06:53 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-17 at 19:21 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > As I'm trying to decide which photo organiser to use (between DigiKam, > F-spot, and KPhotoAlbum) I would really appreciate the ability to move > photos from one program to the other and to keep my tags intact. A > user on the Digikam mailing list had mentioned that he would like to > tag his photos 'in the field' on his laptop and to import them into > the program when he gets home. I think that a kipi Import/ Export > feature would solve both our problems. It would create an XML file > similar to this: > > > People*Ester > People*Studies*Eli > People*Studies*Anna > Place*Haifa > > > > People*Ester > People*Dotan > People*Army*Jacob > Place*Jerusalem > Where should this file be. Same place as the photo? or other place? One file per photo, same as GThumb does it, or one file for all photos? Could be great to have it implemented with the new Plugin feature though :) So, with this way, you are not allowed to use a "*" as a character in any of your tags I take it? > > This can easily be imported by any application, and it provides for > hierarchical tags. (levels seperated by asteriks) > > What does the F-spot community think of this? Would you like to be > able to work on the tags on the go and to import them later? And to > easily move from application to application? This would also provide a > secure way to back up the current sqlite database in an accessable > manner. (any text editor could open it) In my humble opinion there is only one place to definitely store the tags to ensure that they follow the picture and that the tags are readable by any application. That would be embedded inside the photo in a standard way. Like EXIF/XMP. Then you do not need to worry about the tag file dissapears or (in your case) the photo location changes. Not to mention worry about what happends over the years, since EXIF/XMP follows the standard, then that should be as future proof we can get. This is one of the main reason I choose to go with F-Spot, since the other applications you mentioned do not store the tags embedded inside the photo (yet). Me, it is not always I travel with a laptop, but I have a portable harddisk which I store the photos on. If you want to tag photos on the field on your laptop, why not simply tag them directly in F-Spot in that case? Regarding backing up the SQlite database by storing the tags in an XML file, I do not think so. The SQlite database contains already more information than only the tags, and this will likely just increase. The main place for the tags to be backed up, would be that they are backed up together with the photo since the tags are stored embedded inside the photo also. As I mentioned above. This would be a great feature for the new plugin method some are working on. My humble AUD 0.02 cent /Bengt From mvermaat@cs.vu.nl Mon Jun 19 07:00:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A507A3B0091 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:00:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05478-01 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:00:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069583B008F for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:00:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from olympiaplein.xs4all.nl (olympiaplein.xs4all.nl [80.126.168.64]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5JAxGsm088831 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:59:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mvermaat@cs.vu.nl) Subject: Re: F-spot user forum From: Martijn Vermaat To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:59:27 +0200 Message-Id: <1150714768.5522.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.581 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.018, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.581 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 11:00:20 -0000 Op ma, 19-06-2006 te 09:10 +0300, schreef Dotan Cohen: > Also, and this may sound rediculous but it's true, having both the > wiki and a seperate FAQ site is two sites supporting f-spot, rather > than one. Even if they have mostly the same information. That's > important for people googling solutions or considering a switch to > fspot. I, for one, have reservations about switching to a product with > very little in the way of online documentation. This will add to the > amount of online documentation resources available to the community. While I appreciate your enthousiasm, you should be carefull with this. As an example, in the Ubuntu community I see more and more problems originating from 'third-party' documentation. Sometimes it's someone's ego, sometimes they just don't know how to contribute to the official sources, but documentation scattered around the web is a problem for a number of reasons: * Unfortunately, a lot of howto's and tutorials are of questionable quality and advocate bad practice solutions. There's no way for the project to control this. * Maintainability is a problem. New versions of the software require updated documentation. * Almost never are these howto's and tutorials available in more than one language. The official documentation for Ubuntu gets translated by the translation teams. F-Spot has not translated its homepage I think, but it could in the future. * Last but not least, duplicate efforts are often a waste of time, especially when the official source for documentation could have been improved and/or the alternative source is harder to find. Some alternative sources of documentation don't suffer from most or all of these problems, but I know that all these problems are serious for the Ubuntu community. I don't think other projects are different. > I don't want to replace the wiki, rather to make a seperate source of > information that is more concice and easier to digest. Why not add some sort of FAQ page to the wiki in the form you envision? If people really need it, I think you would certainly be allowed to work on that. -- Martijn Vermaat mvermaat@cs.vu.nl http://www.cs.vu.nl/~mvermaat/ From dkoeb@ist.tugraz.at Mon Jun 19 16:13:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134363B0217 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:13:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30271-07 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:12:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chicago097.thex.at (chicago097.thex.at [217.172.179.97]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CADB13B0D15 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leia.peony.at ([192.168.3.19]) by chicago097.thex.at (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id k5JKBegx001484 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:11:42 +0200 Received: from [192.168.5.108] (chello080109204215.2.sc-graz.chello.at [80.109.204.215]) (authenticated bits=0) by leia.peony.at (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id k5JKBFrJ007489 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:11:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Daniel_K=F6b?= Subject: Re: F-spot user forum Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:10:24 +0200 To: David Berg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at chicago097 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 20:13:01 -0000 Am 19.06.2006 um 04:51 schrieb David Berg: > I guess I'm also not used to sites where information can only be > accessed through searching for it or using a direct link. Perhaps a > mechanism to browse the wiki would be useful. Maybe you find one of these pages useful: http://f-spot.org/Special:Specialpages Daniel From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Mon Jun 19 22:05:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302153B0CC5 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:05:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16756-06 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:05:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.203]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958883B0ABD for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:05:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id x3so1236027nzd for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.251.10 with SMTP id y10mr6140024qbh; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f16sm2671314qba.2006.06.19.18.57.59; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:58:04 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list Subject: Re: F-spot user forum References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 02:05:45 -0000 Dotan Cohen wrote: > Have you seen what fedorafaq.org has done for Fedora? It's all the > same information that is available in Fedora's wiki, but in a Q/A > format on a single page. > > Also, and this may sound rediculous but it's true, having both the > wiki and a seperate FAQ site is two sites supporting f-spot, rather > than one. Even if they have mostly the same information. That's > important for people googling solutions or considering a switch to > fspot. I, for one, have reservations about switching to a product with > very little in the way of online documentation. This will add to the > amount of online documentation resources available to the community. I think this sounds pretty dangerous. F-spot is a great product, and I don't think having a second artificially created website will make it any more accepted or popular. Also, I think it would be bad to have a FAQ maintained separately from the main website - it would mean that the core contributors would have to log into two places to maintain things. Any time you put documentation in two places, you greatly increase the likelyhood of it going out of sync. However, having a FAQ section/page on the current site would be wonderful, and if you are still interested in doing it, I think that would be great! Warren From bengt@thuree.com Tue Jun 20 03:04:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A453B0F28 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:04:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31178-08 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:03:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (1-1-3-2a.ehn.lk.bostream.se [82.183.137.113]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC463B0DE5 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:03:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by denton.thuree.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905F13AA9B for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:02:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 194.237.142.21 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bengt) by denton.thuree.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:02:33 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <15179.194.237.142.21.1150786953.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> In-Reply-To: <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:02:33 +0900 (JST) Subject: Re: F-spot user forum From: "Bengt Thuree" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-thuree-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-thuree-MailScanner-From: bengt@thuree.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:04:01 -0000 On Ti, 2006-06-20, 10:58, Warren Baird skrev: > Dotan Cohen wrote: >> Have you seen what fedorafaq.org has done for Fedora? It's all the >> same information that is available in Fedora's wiki, but in a Q/A >> format on a single page. >> > > I think this sounds pretty dangerous. F-spot is a great product, and I > don't think having a second artificially created website will make it > any more accepted or popular. Definitely second this > > Also, I think it would be bad to have a FAQ maintained separately from > the main website - it would mean that the core contributors would have > to log into two places to maintain things. Again, definitely second this > However, having a FAQ section/page on the current site would be > wonderful, and if you are still interested in doing it, I think that > would be great! Just to repeat myself... Again, definitely second this To have the same material in many places will just cause a lot of problems. On the other hand, having reviews of F-Spot, or links to F-Spot in many places would be very nice. Another thing I have been thinking of, is to create a Concept Guide (and perhaps a Help manual). If you are unsure what I am talking about, please check GnuCash concept guide. Here is the link to the CVS version. http://cvs.gnucash.org/docs/guide/ This is created in DocBook format, and is easily converted to Gnome help format, can be read by Yelp, can be converted to PDF as well as to TXT format. But, perhaps best to wait a bit until F-Spot gets a bit closer to 1.0? Then again, we should be able to come up with wich chapters we should have, and fill in general things, and possible more detailed information as well. The bad thing though, the more detailed the information is, the more often you will have to change since F-Spot is still under heavy development... My small 0.02 cents... /Bengt From stephane@delcroix.org Tue Jun 20 03:24:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28353B0F09 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32166-07 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:23:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6003B0EE3 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:23:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1703 invoked by uid 503); 20 Jun 2006 07:23:55 -0000 Received: from b7.ovh.net (HELO mail156.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.57) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 07:23:55 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 07:15:20 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 07:15:13 -0000 Subject: F-Spot plug-ins From: Stephane Delcroix To: F-Spot list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq" Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:16:03 +0200 Message-Id: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.941 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.523, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -1.941 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:24:02 -0000 --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone, I'm quite proud to give you this patch, adding support for loading plug-ins into F-Spot. I'll submit it to b.g.o. soon. For now, all Plugins in all .dll in $HOME/.gnome2/f-spot/plugins are loaded, but I plan to write another plugin to enable them at will. The patch include Thomas's solution to #344534, so you can compile plug-ins from outside the source tree using: mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot MyPlugin.cs Find also attached below 2 plugins, one displaying a dialog about plugins, and a first Export Plug-in, for sending mail (the export code is just a cut and paste from F-Spot core code). Those 2 plugins compile with: mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 DialogPlugin.cs mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 SendMailPlugin.cs It's a first and very early version, so write a lot of comments about it... rgds, Stephane --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=plugins.patch Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=plugins.patch; charset=ANSI_X3.4-1968 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: Makefile.am =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/Makefile.am,v retrieving revision 1.13 diff -u -p -r1.13 Makefile.am --- Makefile.am 17 Feb 2006 17:02:32 -0000 1.13 +++ Makefile.am 19 Jun 2006 15:54:03 -0000 @@ -17,6 +17,9 @@ desktop_in_files= \ desktop_files=$(desktop_in_files:.desktop.in=.desktop) @INTLTOOL_DESKTOP_RULE@ +pkgconfigdir = $(libdir)/pkgconfig +pkgconfig_DATA = f-spot.pc + Applicationsdir = $(datadir)/applications Applications_DATA = $(desktop_files) @@ -30,6 +33,7 @@ EXTRA_DIST = \ intltool-extract.in \ intltool-merge.in \ intltool-update.in \ + f-spot.pc.in \ f-spot.spec \ $(desktop_in_files) \ $(desktop_files) Index: configure.in =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/configure.in,v retrieving revision 1.102 diff -u -p -r1.102 configure.in --- configure.in 24 May 2006 15:44:42 -0000 1.102 +++ configure.in 19 Jun 2006 15:54:03 -0000 @@ -182,6 +182,7 @@ po/Makefile.in src/Defines.cs src/f-spot.exe.config src/Makefile +f-spot.pc f-spot.spec f-spot.desktop.in ]) Index: src/Global.cs =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/src/Global.cs,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -p -r1.8 Global.cs --- src/Global.cs 22 Mar 2006 19:14:41 -0000 1.8 +++ src/Global.cs 19 Jun 2006 15:54:03 -0000 @@ -18,6 +18,12 @@ namespace FSpot { } } + public static string PluginsDirectory { + get { + return System.IO.Path.Combine (BaseDirectory, "plugins"); + } + } + public static void ModifyColors (Gtk.Widget widget) { try { Index: src/MainWindow.cs =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/src/MainWindow.cs,v retrieving revision 1.298 diff -u -p -r1.298 MainWindow.cs --- src/MainWindow.cs 9 Jun 2006 23:24:57 -0000 1.298 +++ src/MainWindow.cs 19 Jun 2006 15:54:05 -0000 @@ -44,6 +44,7 @@ public class MainWindow { [Glade.Widget] MenuItem rename_version_menu_item; [Glade.Widget] MenuItem export; + [Glade.Widget] MenuItem export_menu_item; [Glade.Widget] MenuItem print; [Glade.Widget] MenuItem send_mail; @@ -107,6 +108,8 @@ public class MainWindow { PhotoVersionMenu versions_submenu; + ExportMenu export_submenu; + Gtk.ToggleButton browse_button; Gtk.ToggleButton edit_button; @@ -376,6 +379,10 @@ public class MainWindow { // When the icon_view is loaded, set it's initial scroll position icon_view.SizeAllocated += HandleIconViewReady; +System.Console.WriteLine("###############################################"); +FSpot.Plugins.Plugger plugger = new FSpot.Plugins.Plugger(); +System.Console.WriteLine("###############################################"); + UpdateToolbar (); } @@ -1463,7 +1470,8 @@ public class MainWindow { "Joshua Tauberer", "Joerg Buesse", "Jakub Steiner", - "Xavier Bouchoux" + "Xavier Bouchoux", + "Stephane Delcroix" }; // Translators should localize the following string @@ -2495,6 +2503,9 @@ public class MainWindow { version_menu_item.Submenu = versions_submenu; } + export_submenu = new ExportMenu (); + export_menu_item.Submenu = export_submenu; + set_as_background.Sensitive = single_active; adjust_color.Sensitive = single_active; adjust_time.Sensitive = active_selection; @@ -2905,4 +2916,12 @@ public class MainWindow { { toolTips.SetTip (widget, tip, null); } + + // + //Hooks for plugin + // + public void HandleExportWithPlugin (FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin ex_plugin) { + ex_plugin.DoExport(new FSpot.PhotoArray (SelectedPhotos ())); + } + } Index: src/Makefile.am =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/src/Makefile.am,v retrieving revision 1.63 diff -u -p -r1.63 Makefile.am --- src/Makefile.am 26 Apr 2006 20:31:07 -0000 1.63 +++ src/Makefile.am 19 Jun 2006 15:54:06 -0000 @@ -25,6 +25,7 @@ F_SPOT_CSDISTFILES = \ $(srcdir)/DirectoryCollection.cs \ $(srcdir)/ExceptionDialog.cs \ $(srcdir)/Exif.cs \ + $(srcdir)/ExportMenu.cs \ $(srcdir)/FlickrExport.cs \ $(srcdir)/FlickrRemote.cs \ $(srcdir)/FileImportBackend.cs \ @@ -79,6 +80,7 @@ F_SPOT_CSDISTFILES = \ $(srcdir)/PixbufUtils.cs \ $(srcdir)/PixbufCache.cs \ $(srcdir)/PixelBuffer.cs \ + $(srcdir)/Plugins.cs \ $(srcdir)/PreferenceDialog.cs \ $(srcdir)/Preferences.cs \ $(srcdir)/PreviewPopup.cs \ Index: src/f-spot.glade =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/src/f-spot.glade,v retrieving revision 1.164 diff -u -p -r1.164 f-spot.glade --- src/f-spot.glade 6 Jun 2006 18:09:47 -0000 1.164 +++ src/f-spot.glade 19 Jun 2006 15:54:20 -0000 @@ -7250,6 +7250,20 @@ Photo Details + + + + True + + + + + + True + Export plugins + True + + @@ -7272,7 +7286,7 @@ Photo Details - + True gnome-stock-mail-fwd 1 @@ -7297,8 +7311,8 @@ Photo Details _Close True - + @@ -7635,7 +7649,7 @@ Photo Details True _Folder True - False + True month --- /dev/null 2006-06-19 09:02:49.376262000 +0200 +++ src/Plugins.cs 2006-06-19 17:38:29.000000000 +0200 @@ -0,0 +1,120 @@ +/* + * Plugins.cs + * + * Authors: + * Stephane Delcroix + * + * Copyright (C) 2006 Stephane Delcroix + * + */ + + +using System; +using System.Reflection; + +using System.Collections; + +using FSpot; + +namespace FSpot.Plugins { + + public class Plugger { + private static System.Collections.Hashtable plugins = new System.Collections.Hashtable(); + + public static string [] PluginsList { + get { + string [] list = new String[plugins.Count]; + plugins.Keys.CopyTo(list,0); + return list; + } + } + + public static string [] LoadedPlugins (System.Type type) { + ArrayList loadedplugins = new ArrayList(); + foreach (string plugin in PluginsList){ + if ( ((Plugin)plugins[plugin]).IsLoaded && (plugins[plugin]).GetType().IsSubclassOf(type)) + loadedplugins.Add(plugin); + } + return (string [])loadedplugins.ToArray(typeof(System.String)); + } + + public static string [] LoadedPlugins() { return LoadedPlugins(typeof(FSpot.Plugins.Plugin)); } + + public static Plugin Plugin(string ShortName) + { + return (Plugin)plugins[ShortName]; + } + + public Plugger () + { + LoadPluginsFromDirectory(FSpot.Global.PluginsDirectory); + InitializePlugins(PluginsList); + } + + public void LoadPluginsFromDirectories (string [] directories) + { + foreach ( String directory in directories ) + LoadPluginsFromDirectory (directory); + } + + private void LoadPluginsFromDirectory (string path) + { + foreach ( String dll in System.IO.Directory.GetFiles(path, "*.dll") ) + LoadPluginsFromFile(dll); + } + + private void LoadPluginsFromFile(string pluginfile) + { + Console.WriteLine ("Loading plugins from {0}...", pluginfile); + Assembly assembly = Assembly.LoadFile(pluginfile); + Type [] ts = assembly.GetTypes(); + foreach (Type t in ts){ + if ( t.IsSubclassOf(typeof(FSpot.Plugins.Plugin)) ){ + Plugin plugin = (Plugin)assembly.CreateInstance(t.ToString()); + Console.WriteLine("{0} available", t); + //FIXME: check if ShortName already exists in plugins[] + plugins [plugin.ShortName] = plugin; + } else + Console.WriteLine("{0} is NOT a Plugin", t); + } + } + + public void InitializePlugins(string [] pluginslist) + { + foreach (String plugin in pluginslist) { + ((Plugin)plugins[plugin]).Load(); + } + } + } + + public abstract class Plugin { + public abstract string DisplayName { get; } + public virtual string ShortName { get { return DisplayName; } } + public abstract string Description { get; } + private bool Loaded = false; + + public bool IsLoaded { + get { return Loaded; } + } + + public Plugin () + { + } + + public void Load () { + PluginInitialize(); + Loaded = true; + } + + protected abstract void PluginInitialize(); + } + + public abstract class ExportPlugin: Plugin { + public abstract string MenuEntryName { get; } + public void HandleMenuItemActivated(object sender, EventArgs args) + { + MainWindow.Toplevel.HandleExportWithPlugin(this); + } + public abstract void DoExport(IBrowsableCollection selectedphotos); + } +} --- /dev/null 2006-06-19 09:02:49.376262000 +0200 +++ src/ExportMenu.cs 2006-06-19 16:30:49.000000000 +0200 @@ -0,0 +1,28 @@ +using Gtk; +using GtkSharp; +using System; + +namespace FSpot { + public class ExportMenu : Menu { + public ExportMenu () + { + string [] exportplugins = FSpot.Plugins.Plugger.LoadedPlugins(typeof(FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin)); + + if ( exportplugins == null || exportplugins.Length == 0 ) { + MenuItem menu_item = new MenuItem ("No Export Plug-in available"); + menu_item.Show(); + menu_item.Sensitive = false; + Append(menu_item); + } + foreach (string shortname in exportplugins) { + FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin plugin = (FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin)FSpot.Plugins.Plugger.Plugin(shortname); + MenuItem menu_item = new MenuItem (plugin.MenuEntryName); + menu_item.Show(); + menu_item.Sensitive = true; + menu_item.Activated += new EventHandler (plugin.HandleMenuItemActivated); + + Append(menu_item); + } + } + } +} --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=DialogPlugin.cs Content-Type: text/x-csharp; name=DialogPlugin.cs; charset=ANSI_X3.4-1968 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit using System; using FSpot; using FSpot.Plugins; namespace FSpot.Plugins { public class DialogPlugin: FSpot.Plugins.Plugin { public override string DisplayName { get { return "Dialog Plugin"; } } public override string ShortName { get { return "DialogPlugin"; } } public override string Description { get { return "Warn the user about using plugins"; } } protected override void PluginInitialize() { Console.WriteLine("Initializing Dialog Plugin"); String header = "Plug-ins enabled version of F-Spot"; String msg = "You are running a plug-ins enabled version of F-Spot" + "\nPlug-ins can crash your F-Spot, delete all your images, and " + "completely destroy your database." + "\nYou have been warned! Don't fill any bug report " + "regarding plug-ins"; HigMessageDialog.RunHigMessageDialog(MainWindow.Toplevel.Window, Gtk.DialogFlags.DestroyWithParent, Gtk.MessageType.Warning, Gtk.ButtonsType.Ok,header,msg); } } } --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=SendMailPlugin.cs Content-Type: text/x-csharp; name=SendMailPlugin.cs; charset=ANSI_X3.4-1968 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit using System; using FSpot; using FSpot.Plugins; namespace FSpot.Plugins { public class SendMailPlugin: FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin { public override string DisplayName { get { return "Send Mail Plugin"; } } public override string ShortName { get { return "SendMailPlugin"; } } public override string Description { get { return "Create an e-mail with your photos attached"; } } public override string MenuEntryName { get { return "Send Mail...";} } protected override void PluginInitialize() { Console.WriteLine("Initializing Send Mail Plugin"); } public override void DoExport (IBrowsableCollection sel_photos) { Photo [] photos = (Photo [])sel_photos.Items; System.Text.StringBuilder url = new System.Text.StringBuilder ("mailto:?subject=my%20photos"); foreach (Photo p in photos) { url.Append ("&attach=" + UriList.EscapeString (p.DefaultVersionUri.LocalPath, true, true, true)); } Gnome.Url.Show (url.ToString ()); Console.WriteLine ("Exporting {0} pictures", sel_photos.Count); } } } --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq-- From nmarais@snowisp.com Tue Jun 20 05:13:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95F73B0097 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:13:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05163-09 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:13:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ctb-mesg7.saix.net (ctb-mesg7.saix.net [196.25.240.77]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80823B0ECC for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:13:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from office.snowballeffect.net (dsl-165-225-212.telkomadsl.co.za [165.165.225.212]) by ctb-mesg7.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD702366F for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:12:36 +0200 (SAST) Received: (qmail 29551 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2006 13:50:59 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.20.130.19?) (10.20.130.19) by 192.168.20.58 with (RC4-MD5 encrypted) SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 13:50:59 +0200 Subject: Big Collections/Complex Meta-data/Is F-Spot (going to be) for me? From: Neilen Marais To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:12:18 +0200 Message-Id: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.533 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.533 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:13:43 -0000 Hi I have a pretty big image database (about 12k photos) with fairly complex meta-data maintained in KPhotoAlbum. I've been eying F-spot for a while, since it has a very active community, looks pretty and seems quite nice to use. I'm quite excited by F-spot's ability to handle picture versions and RAW files. I also prefer GNOME apps all else being equal. KPhotoAlbum is not quite as smooth, but it's interface seems more "scalable" to me, while F-spot tries (and manages very well) to make easy stuff easy. I don't think scalable and easy need to be mutually exclusive though. I'll list some features in KPhotoAlbum that I find makes it very useful for large/complex collections, and why they are useful. Perhaps I can convince the right people that it may be useful to implement something similar (if not identical) in F-Spot. These comments refer to F-Spot 0.1.11, as shipped with Ubuntu Dapper. I'll refer to KPhotoAlbum as KP from here on to save typing. Separate "Namespaces" ===================== F-spot seems to require the last level of a tag to be unique. Besides offending my personal sense of logical aesthetics, it also poses practical problems ;P In KP, each top-level tag is called a Category, and the tags within each Category are completely independent. In my KP database I have a "People" category for people visible in the photo, and a "Photographer" category for the person who took the picture. Of course People can also be Photographers, but usually not at the same time. Also the total number of photographers aren't the same as the total number of people. It's also possible that unrelated tags can coincidentally have the same name. E.g. if you travel all over the world and meet people from all over the world, it's not unlikely that some placename in one country may be the same as someones name in another. In fact, identical placenames are quite common. Places.USA.Alabama.Greenville is not the same as Places.USA.California.Greenville (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cities#Most_common_city_names for more fun.) One can disambiguate by having Greenville_CA, but I already told you it's in California, damnit ;) Actually this is a problem in KP as well, since it's doesn't do any hierarchy within a category. It does have membership groups that does something similar, but that does not solve this problem. Membership Groups ----------------- I think F-Spot's hierarchical tags can fill the same need, but I'll describe them so its clear what I'm talking about. I'll use the Places category as an example. Say the location is "Friendly Bob's House" in Pinelands (the town), Western Cape (the state), South Africa. In KP I can make the location "South Africa" a membership group. Then I can assign all the states in South Africa (that I have in my DB anyway) to this group (e.g. Western Cape, Gauteng, etc.). Then I make Western Cape another membership group, and assign all the cities to it (e.g. Pinelands, Cape Town, etc.). I make Pinelands a membership group, and add "Friendly Bob's house" to it. Now I tag the picture with only "Friendly Bob's house". Because of the membership groups, KP knows the picture also belongs to "Pinelands", "Western Cape" and "South Africa", and will be found by searches on any of those 4 locations. Of course, Locations.South Africa.Western Cape.Pinelands would do just as well. It will also be more explicit (good), and if F-Spot supported it, would be separate from Locations.South Africa.Kwazulu Natal.Pinelands (which also exists!) Default "And" searching ======================= >From reading the list it seems that F-Spot will get more searching options soon, but IMHO if you can have only one choice, "and" would be better than "or". I hope that when the more featureful searching comes, there will be an easy way to make the default "and". Restrict Tags when Searching ============================ This kind of goes together with the default "and" searching. KP's main interface shows you a list of top level tags, along with how many entries each has. e.g. Locations - 10 People - 6 Then you select People -> "Friendly Bob" You can then look at all the pictures containing Bob, or keep selecting search tags. However, all the tags that never occur with Bob are removed, e.g. Locations - 4 People - 3 I.o.w. you see only the Locations that Bob's been photographed at and only the people that have been photographed with Bob. Now select Locations -> "Friendly Bob's House", and look at the pictures of Bob at his house, or continue: Locations (greyed out, since there are no others) People - 2 Then you could choose to look at pictures of Bob with his wife, or Bob with his son. I like this feature for two reasons. 1) If you're and-searching, there's no point in seeing the tags that will result in no pictures being found. 2) Its nice to see, for instance, how many people you have photographed at a certain location. Scalable Tag Selection ====================== It's hard to compare KP directly to F-Spot here, since the interface paradigms are quite different, so I'll just sketch my problem. In KP I have 9 Categories (i.e. top level tags), and some of them have many subtags. E.g. Events - 143 Keywords - 21 Locations - 237 Persons - 203 Photographer - 33 I've only had a camera for about two years, but found I like both photography and detailed tagging. I'm sure these numbers will have grown considerably in 10 years time! I will always have at least one tag from each of the 5 categories I listed here attached to every picture, so it is critical that tags can be selected from a large selection easily. KP makes the default way of finding a tag incremental search, and also sorts tags in order of last use by default. It also manages each category completely separately which means the 100's of "Persons" tags don't make it hard to pick a tag from the "Keywords" category. While I haven't dealt with that many tags in F-Spot, my feeling is the tag toolbar/tree on the left of F-Spot will be fairly well suited to dealing with many tags. Other places, where there are flat lists with all tag hierarchies exploded, will probably be unpleasant to use. What I'd need to switch ======================= Like you care ;P Anyway, my needs in order of priority are 1) "Fully qualified" tag uniqueness (i.e. People.A != Places.A) 2) "And" searching 3) Tag Restrictions while and-searching 4) Improved UI for selecting from large numbers of tags 1) is completely critical, since I can't losslesly move my current data into F-Spot without it. 2) is pretty important. 3) and 4) would be nice to have, but not that important. If other people think it's a good idea, should I make feature requests on the F-spot bugzilla, or how should I go ahead? Thanks for listening Neilen -- you know its kind of tragic we live in the new world but we've lost the magic -- Battery 9 (www.battery9.co.za) From stephane@delcroix.org Tue Jun 20 05:38:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3E33B0329 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:38:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06374-04 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:38:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B85A3B02FA for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:38:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28829 invoked by uid 503); 20 Jun 2006 09:38:57 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail56.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 09:38:57 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 09:37:27 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 09:37:25 -0000 Subject: Re: F-Spot plug-ins From: Stephane Delcroix To: F-Spot list In-Reply-To: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> References: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:37:26 +0200 Message-Id: <1150796247.5909.31.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.152 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.246, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558] X-Spam-Score: -1.152 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:38:37 -0000 the bug in b.g.o.: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345395 On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 09:16 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm quite proud to give you this patch, adding support for loading > plug-ins into F-Spot. I'll submit it to b.g.o. soon. > > For now, all Plugins in all .dll in $HOME/.gnome2/f-spot/plugins are > loaded, but I plan to write another plugin to enable them at will. > > The patch include Thomas's solution to #344534, so you can compile > plug-ins from outside the source tree using: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot MyPlugin.cs > > Find also attached below 2 plugins, one displaying a dialog about > plugins, and a first Export Plug-in, for sending mail (the export code > is just a cut and paste from F-Spot core code). > > Those 2 plugins compile with: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 DialogPlugin.cs > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 SendMailPlugin.cs > > It's a first and very early version, so write a lot of comments about > it... > > rgds, > > Stephane > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list -- Stephane Delcroix stephane@delcroix.org From bengt@thuree.com Tue Jun 20 06:31:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18373B00FE for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 06:31:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08584-07 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 06:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.196]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BEB33B0248 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 06:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5KAUR3H011245; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:30:33 +1000 Subject: Re: F-Spot plug-ins From: Bengt Thuree To: Stephane Delcroix In-Reply-To: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> References: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:30:26 +1000 Message-Id: <1150799426.5458.0.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.531 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.531 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:31:48 -0000 On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 09:16 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm quite proud to give you this patch, adding support for loading > plug-ins into F-Spot. I'll submit it to b.g.o. soon. > > For now, all Plugins in all .dll in $HOME/.gnome2/f-spot/plugins are > loaded, but I plan to write another plugin to enable them at will. > > The patch include Thomas's solution to #344534, so you can compile > plug-ins from outside the source tree using: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot MyPlugin.cs > > Find also attached below 2 plugins, one displaying a dialog about > plugins, and a first Export Plug-in, for sending mail (the export code > is just a cut and paste from F-Spot core code). > > Those 2 plugins compile with: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 DialogPlugin.cs > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 SendMailPlugin.cs > > It's a first and very early version, so write a lot of comments about > it... > hier > rgds, > > Stephane Congratulations :) Looks good to me, not the best on plugins though. Would it be easy to add plugins for any part of F-Spot, or only for Export? /Bengt From stephane@delcroix.org Tue Jun 20 07:50:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556F33B078A for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:50:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12349-08 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1703B044D for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:49:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5534 invoked by uid 503); 20 Jun 2006 11:50:17 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail15.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 11:50:16 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 11:48:38 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 11:48:34 -0000 Subject: Re: Big Collections/Complex Meta-data/Is F-Spot (going to be) for me? From: Stephane Delcroix To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:48:43 +0200 Message-Id: <1150804124.5909.60.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.139 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.233, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558] X-Spam-Score: -1.139 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:50:00 -0000 Hi, Some of your needs are already work in progress. Check http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338558 for fully-qualified tag uniqueness, it's a strong request but solving it will require re-coding the 'Tag Typing'. Check http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139796 for advanced queries. It's one of the oldest bug request / patch in f-spot. You can CC your email address to follow the discussion about them. I like the idea of displaying more info about the selection (items per tag, ...). You can probably submit a enhancement request in bugzilla and attach a mockup of the UI. As always in F-Spot, the problem is not writing code to solve an issue, it's about writing good code and give the user a nice experience. Thanks for your report, Stephane On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 11:12 +0200, Neilen Marais wrote: > Hi > > I have a pretty big image database (about 12k photos) with fairly > complex meta-data maintained in KPhotoAlbum. I've been eying F-spot for > a while, since it has a very active community, looks pretty and seems > quite nice to use. I'm quite excited by F-spot's ability to handle > picture versions and RAW files. I also prefer GNOME apps all else being > equal. > > KPhotoAlbum is not quite as smooth, but it's interface seems more > "scalable" to me, while F-spot tries (and manages very well) to make > easy stuff easy. I don't think scalable and easy need to be mutually > exclusive though. > > I'll list some features in KPhotoAlbum that I find makes it very useful > for large/complex collections, and why they are useful. Perhaps I can > convince the right people that it may be useful to implement something > similar (if not identical) in F-Spot. > > These comments refer to F-Spot 0.1.11, as shipped with Ubuntu Dapper. > I'll refer to KPhotoAlbum as KP from here on to save typing. > > Separate "Namespaces" > ===================== > > F-spot seems to require the last level of a tag to be unique. Besides > offending my personal sense of logical aesthetics, it also poses > practical problems ;P > > In KP, each top-level tag is called a Category, and the tags within each > Category are completely independent. In my KP database I have a "People" > category for people visible in the photo, and a "Photographer" category > for the person who took the picture. Of course People can also be > Photographers, but usually not at the same time. Also the total number > of photographers aren't the same as the total number of people. > > It's also possible that unrelated tags can coincidentally have the same > name. E.g. if you travel all over the world and meet people from all > over the world, it's not unlikely that some placename in one country may > be the same as someones name in another. > > In fact, identical placenames are quite common. > Places.USA.Alabama.Greenville is not the same as > Places.USA.California.Greenville (see > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cities#Most_common_city_names for > more fun.) One can disambiguate by having Greenville_CA, but I already > told you it's in California, damnit ;) > > Actually this is a problem in KP as well, since it's doesn't do any > hierarchy within a category. It does have membership groups that does > something similar, but that does not solve this problem. > > Membership Groups > ----------------- > > I think F-Spot's hierarchical tags can fill the same need, but I'll > describe them so its clear what I'm talking about. > > I'll use the Places category as an example. Say the location is > "Friendly Bob's House" in Pinelands (the town), Western Cape (the > state), South Africa. In KP I can make the location "South Africa" a > membership group. Then I can assign all the states in South Africa (that > I have in my DB anyway) to this group (e.g. Western Cape, Gauteng, > etc.). Then I make Western Cape another membership group, and assign all > the cities to it (e.g. Pinelands, Cape Town, etc.). I make Pinelands a > membership group, and add "Friendly Bob's house" to it. > > Now I tag the picture with only "Friendly Bob's house". Because of the > membership groups, KP knows the picture also belongs to "Pinelands", > "Western Cape" and "South Africa", and will be found by searches on any > of those 4 locations. > > Of course, Locations.South Africa.Western Cape.Pinelands would do just > as well. It will also be more explicit (good), and if F-Spot supported > it, would be separate from Locations.South Africa.Kwazulu > Natal.Pinelands (which also exists!) > > Default "And" searching > ======================= > > >From reading the list it seems that F-Spot will get more searching > options soon, but IMHO if you can have only one choice, "and" would be > better than "or". I hope that when the more featureful searching comes, > there will be an easy way to make the default "and". > > Restrict Tags when Searching > ============================ > > This kind of goes together with the default "and" searching. KP's main > interface shows you a list of top level tags, along with how many > entries each has. e.g. > > Locations - 10 > People - 6 > > Then you select People -> "Friendly Bob" > > You can then look at all the pictures containing Bob, or keep selecting > search tags. However, all the tags that never occur with Bob are > removed, e.g. > > Locations - 4 > People - 3 > > I.o.w. you see only the Locations that Bob's been photographed at and > only the people that have been photographed with Bob. > > Now select Locations -> "Friendly Bob's House", > > and look at the pictures of Bob at his house, or continue: > > Locations (greyed out, since there are no others) > People - 2 > > Then you could choose to look at pictures of Bob with his wife, or Bob > with his son. > > I like this feature for two reasons. > > 1) If you're and-searching, there's no point in seeing the tags that > will result in no pictures being found. > 2) Its nice to see, for instance, how many people you have photographed > at a certain location. > > Scalable Tag Selection > ====================== > > It's hard to compare KP directly to F-Spot here, since the > interface paradigms are quite different, so I'll just sketch my problem. > In KP I have 9 Categories (i.e. top level tags), and some of them have > many subtags. E.g. > > Events - 143 > Keywords - 21 > Locations - 237 > Persons - 203 > Photographer - 33 > > I've only had a camera for about two years, but found I like both > photography and detailed tagging. I'm sure these numbers will have grown > considerably in 10 years time! > > I will always have at least one tag from each of the 5 categories I > listed here attached to every picture, so it is critical that tags can > be selected from a large selection easily. KP makes the default way of > finding a tag incremental search, and also sorts tags in order of last > use by default. It also manages each category completely separately > which means the 100's of "Persons" tags don't make it hard to pick a tag > from the "Keywords" category. > > While I haven't dealt with that many tags in F-Spot, my feeling is the > tag toolbar/tree on the left of F-Spot will be fairly well suited to > dealing with many tags. Other places, where there are flat lists with > all tag hierarchies exploded, will probably be unpleasant to use. > > What I'd need to switch > ======================= > > Like you care ;P Anyway, my needs in order of priority are > > 1) "Fully qualified" tag uniqueness (i.e. People.A != Places.A) > 2) "And" searching > 3) Tag Restrictions while and-searching > 4) Improved UI for selecting from large numbers of tags > > 1) is completely critical, since I can't losslesly move my current data > into F-Spot without it. > 2) is pretty important. > > 3) and 4) would be nice to have, but not that important. > > If other people think it's a good idea, should I make feature requests > on the F-spot bugzilla, or how should I go ahead? > > Thanks for listening > Neilen > -- Stephane Delcroix stephane@delcroix.org From bengt@thuree.com Tue Jun 20 08:47:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885573B0458 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15956-03 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:47:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.196]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E5F3B0452 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:47:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5KCkoxJ024455; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:46:51 +1000 Subject: Re: IPTC Tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606190501r3cfac1fbp86b66427944c2f81@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> <1150580384.6150.28.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606190501r3cfac1fbp86b66427944c2f81@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:46:50 +1000 Message-Id: <1150807610.5458.5.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.533 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.067, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.533 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:47:59 -0000 Hi I tested it a bit, and F-Spot do read (in MetaData browser) the Keyword field. But none of the others (as I read somewhere on the web, they are not following the standard IPTC standard.) Hopefully, you can still base your patch on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 and get it to work with IPTC files. Check IptcFile.cs also. Good luck. /Bengt From lewing@novell.com Wed Jun 21 10:46:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D453B1035 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13755-02 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:45:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0983B0FD5 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:45:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3202 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2006 14:45:50 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.6.126?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jun 2006 14:45:50 -0000 Subject: Re: Importing photos with tags From: Larry Ewing To: Bengt Thuree In-Reply-To: <1150533952.6150.8.camel@workie.thuree.com> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> <1150533952.6150.8.camel@workie.thuree.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:53:56 -0500 Message-Id: <1150901636.8583.2.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:46:00 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-17 at 18:45 +1000, Bengt Thuree wrote: > > > > Thanks, I'll look into that. I'm really a novice, what I can do is > > extract the IPTC data that the tags are currently in with PHP and then > > produce a text file (be it XML or SQL) to work with. > > > > Dotan Cohen > > > > http://what-is-what.com > > > > Actually, have a look at the JPG file first. > If the tags are stored in IPTC as well as in XMP format, you should be > able to use the patch I wrote to let F-Spot read XMP data. > IViewMedia Pro, were only supposed to store in IPTC as far as I > understood, but they also stored the tags in XMP format. > > Also, I think that F-Spot has prepared to deal with IPTC tags as well. > Have a look and see in IptcFile.cs, and see if you can create a new > patch based on the XMP importer? > > Anyway, gthumb stores its tags in an xml file per photo, so you can take > a look at that patch. > All the metadata formats that f-spot parses it also can convert to XMP, that is how the extended metadata section in the metadata dialog is created. The code could use some polish but it should make normalizing the import code fairly simple. As a side note, it would be good if the gthumb parsing code could convert to XMP as well. --Larry From lewing@novell.com Wed Jun 21 10:51:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B772A3B0FA3 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14185-06 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43713B0EB3 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:51:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3228 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2006 14:51:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.6.126?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jun 2006 14:51:21 -0000 Subject: Re: plugin support for F-Spot From: Larry Ewing To: Stephane Delcroix In-Reply-To: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> References: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:59:31 -0500 Message-Id: <1150901971.8583.8.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.465 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.066, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.465 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:51:28 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 16:20 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Hi list, > > I've spend some time lately to develop a plugin facility for F-Spot. So > far, I've a virtual plugin class, some methods to load plugins, and a > testplugin. Thanks to Thomas and his solution to bug #344534, I've also > a way to compile plugins without the F-Spot sources. > > The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as > many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to > my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my > guess), but some people need this. > Sounds great. Import, export, editing, file format, metadata and sychronization are all possible plug-in entry points. The ImageFile code is meant to be trivially converted into a plugable system. The main issue with export as a plug in is dealing with the ui a sane way that avoids the gimp giant menu trap but also isn't too limiting on what sort of UI the plug-in can present to the user. I've given it a fair amount of thought, I'll try to write down what I've come up with in the next couple of days as i prepare for guadec. --Larry From bengt@thuree.com Wed Jun 21 18:22:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17AD3B00E4 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09445-06 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:22:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DEC3B03ED for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:21:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5LMLnqs031828; Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:21:50 +1000 Subject: Re: Importing photos with tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Larry Ewing In-Reply-To: <1150901636.8583.2.camel@blue.site> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> <1150533952.6150.8.camel@workie.thuree.com> <1150901636.8583.2.camel@blue.site> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:21:49 +1000 Message-Id: <1150928510.5385.9.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.534 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.066, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.534 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 22:22:17 -0000 On Wed, 2006-06-21 at 09:53 -0500, Larry Ewing wrote: > All the metadata formats that f-spot parses it also can convert to XMP, > that is how the extended metadata section in the metadata dialog is > created. The code could use some polish but it should make normalizing > the import code fairly simple. As a side note, it would be good if the > gthumb parsing code could convert to XMP as well. Convert to XMP? The gthumb as well as XMP parsing code, simply finds the tags, and then creates them the normal way with including storing them embedded inside the photo. Or did I miss something? > needs_commit |= gthumb.Import (photo, orig_path); > if (needs_commit) > store.Commit (photo); > /Bengt From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 23 13:39:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69EF3B04C1 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:39:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28028-07 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:39:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0C13B0813 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:39:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1216488uge for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.151.3 with SMTP id y3mr1393310hud; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606231039s39eadf04h3ab13415f0e8d48e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:39:24 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Accessing tags with PHP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.21 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.390, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.21 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:39:28 -0000 I have set up f-spot to store the tags in the picture files themselves. How can I access these tags with PHP? I do know how to access IPTC tags with PHP but not the tags that f-spot uses. A simple working code example would be very, very much appreciated. Also, are the tags UTF-8? If not, what charset are they? This is the code that I use to access IPTC: "; print "People: ".$iptc["2#118"][0]."
"; print "Place: ".$iptc["2#027"][0]."
"; print "Event: ".$iptc["2#105"][0]."
"; print "Date: ".$iptc["2#055"][0]."
"; print "Time: ".$iptc["2#060"][0]."
"; ?> Note that the IPTC tags used here are not to standard, they are as per the excellent windows software BrilliantPhoto. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com From ruben@Lambda1.be Fri Jun 23 17:13:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280F73B06F5 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:13:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05460-02 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:13:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oola.is.scarlet.be (oola.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.23]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EE93B0847 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:13:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ([62.235.141.211]) by oola.is.scarlet.be with ESMTP id k5NLDoA04650; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:13:50 +0200 Received: by localhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C1005460466; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:13:49 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Accessing tags with PHP From: Ruben Vermeersch To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606231039s39eadf04h3ab13415f0e8d48e@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606231039s39eadf04h3ab13415f0e8d48e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:13:47 +0200 Message-Id: <1151097227.14599.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: oola 2020; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.59 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.59 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 21:13:56 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 20:39 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I have set up f-spot to store the tags in the picture files > themselves. How can I access these tags with PHP? I do know how to > access IPTC tags with PHP but not the tags that f-spot uses. A simple > working code example would be very, very much appreciated. > > Also, are the tags UTF-8? If not, what charset are they? > > This is the code that I use to access IPTC: > $size = GetImageSize ("/path/to/pic.jpg", &$info); > $iptc = iptcparse($info["APP13"]); > > print "Keywords: ".$iptc["2#025"][0]."
"; > print "People: ".$iptc["2#118"][0]."
"; > print "Place: ".$iptc["2#027"][0]."
"; > print "Event: ".$iptc["2#105"][0]."
"; > print "Date: ".$iptc["2#055"][0]."
"; > print "Time: ".$iptc["2#060"][0]."
"; > ?> > > Note that the IPTC tags used here are not to standard, they are as per > the excellent windows software BrilliantPhoto. As far as I know, f-spot stores tags in XMP metadata, so you'll have to extract it from XMP, not IPTC (but I could be wrong). Kind regards, Ruben Vermeersch -- Ruben Vermeersch (rubenv) http://www.Lambda1.be/ From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 23 18:04:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C69C3B0927 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:04:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07514-05 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:04:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1AC3B0905 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:04:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so59320uge for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.178.5 with SMTP id a5mr1448914huf; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606231504n399728ddh4fd14ca2404c998@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 01:04:07 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: "Ruben Vermeersch" Subject: Re: Accessing tags with PHP In-Reply-To: <1151097227.14599.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <880dece00606231039s39eadf04h3ab13415f0e8d48e@mail.gmail.com> <1151097227.14599.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.288 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.312, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.288 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:04:10 -0000 On 24/06/06, Ruben Vermeersch wrote: > On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 20:39 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I have set up f-spot to store the tags in the picture files > > themselves. How can I access these tags with PHP? I do know how to > > access IPTC tags with PHP but not the tags that f-spot uses. A simple > > working code example would be very, very much appreciated. > > > > Also, are the tags UTF-8? If not, what charset are they? > > > > This is the code that I use to access IPTC: > > > $size = GetImageSize ("/path/to/pic.jpg", &$info); > > $iptc = iptcparse($info["APP13"]); > > > > print "Keywords: ".$iptc["2#025"][0]."
"; > > print "People: ".$iptc["2#118"][0]."
"; > > print "Place: ".$iptc["2#027"][0]."
"; > > print "Event: ".$iptc["2#105"][0]."
"; > > print "Date: ".$iptc["2#055"][0]."
"; > > print "Time: ".$iptc["2#060"][0]."
"; > > ?> > > > > Note that the IPTC tags used here are not to standard, they are as per > > the excellent windows software BrilliantPhoto. > > As far as I know, f-spot stores tags in XMP metadata, so you'll have to > extract it from XMP, not IPTC (but I could be wrong). > > Kind regards, > Ruben Vermeersch > Thanks, that was clear to me. I have since found this: http://www.ozhiker.com/electronics/pjmt/library/list_contents.php4?show_fn=XMP.php But I have yet to put together working code. I'll play with ti a bit this week, but if anybody has a wheel that I don't need to reinvent, I'd appreciate seeing it. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://gmail-com.com From mailmarkh@googlemail.com Sat Jun 24 06:07:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 586A73B0146 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:07:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05863-08 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.199]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183BD3B01DC for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id t5so236733wxc for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 03:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.38.3 with SMTP id l3mr6022830wxl; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 03:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.59.10 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 03:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:07:39 +0100 From: "Mark Howard" Sender: mailmarkh@googlemail.com To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Import from disk and auto-tag MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 343ccbe359cdc39a X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:07:41 -0000 Hi, I have a large collection of photos organised on disk by directory structure. I would like f-spot to import these and automatically tag each photo based on the directory that it's in. There doesn't seem to be any gui tool for this (without specifying each directory and tag separately, which is not an option for such a large collection). Is there any other way to do this? Perhaps some (hidden) way of specifying a tag when using f-spot --import , so that I could write a simple script to do it? Many thanks in advance for any comments. Sorry if this has been asked before - I couldn't find anything through google and the mailing list search is currently broken. Mark Howard From bengt@thuree.com Sat Jun 24 06:56:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8B73B00D4 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:56:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08180-08 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:56:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C393B013A for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:56:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5OAuI9Z014916; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:56:19 +1000 Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag From: Bengt Thuree To: Mark Howard In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:56:19 +1000 Message-Id: <1151146579.13629.3.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.535 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.535 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:56:24 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 11:07 +0100, Mark Howard wrote: > Hi, > > I have a large collection of photos organised on disk by directory > structure. I would like f-spot to import these and automatically tag > each photo based on the directory that it's in. There doesn't seem to > be any gui tool for this (without specifying each directory and tag > separately, which is not an option for such a large collection). Is > there any other way to do this? Perhaps some (hidden) way of > specifying a tag when using f-spot --import , so that I could > write a simple script to do it? > > Many thanks in advance for any comments. Sorry if this has been asked > before - I couldn't find anything through google and the mailing list > search is currently broken. Sorry, but currently F-Spot do not support this. Please see bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344426 in bugzilla for a similar enhancement request. /Bengt From andreas.henden@vice-chairman.net Sat Jun 24 10:40:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3EF23B06FA for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:40:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19727-03 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gordons.ginandtonic.no (gordons.ginandtonic.no [195.159.29.69]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA973B0490 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host-81-191-129-68.bluecom.no ([81.191.129.68] helo=skrue.andeby) by gordons.ginandtonic.no with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1Fu9Io-0002Gv-71 for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:40:02 +0200 Subject: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg From: Andreas Henden To: f-spot-list Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:39:32 +0200 Message-Id: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.72 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.744, BAYES_05=-1.11, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -1.72 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:40:09 -0000 Hi I want sometimes to convert some of my cr2 files into jpg for sending by mail or something like that. I have used gimp but I can't seem to get so nice colors with gimp that is the default setting in f-spot. So I'm asking for two things. Will there be any function for converting from cr2 too jpg and or is there any way to get the same result with any command line tool or any other tool with not too much effort! -- Andreas Henden From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Sat Jun 24 10:44:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8283B07F1 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19693-10 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:44:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.195]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE393B0490 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:44:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i1so1389294nzh for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.148.4 with SMTP id v4mr1106859qbd; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f14sm166591qba.2006.06.24.07.44.05; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 07:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:44:10 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.461 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.138, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_XM=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.461 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:44:08 -0000 Mark Howard wrote: > Hi, > > I have a large collection of photos organised on disk by directory > structure. I would like f-spot to import these and automatically tag > each photo based on the directory that it's in. There doesn't seem to > be any gui tool for this (without specifying each directory and tag > separately, which is not an option for such a large collection). Is > there any other way to do this? Perhaps some (hidden) way of > specifying a tag when using f-spot --import , so that I could > write a simple script to do it? There's no mechanism to do this automatically - however, there are some patches for bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 that will make this relatively easy --- the patch I submitted against the bug will take simple xmp-like "sidecar" files at import and create tags for them. Basically you need to write a script that creates for every file foo.jpg, a file called foo.jpg.xmp - the contents should look like this: Tag 1 Tag 2 ... Tag N Then with my patch, when you do the import, the tags will be created (if necessary), and attached to each photo appropriately. Hope this helps. Warren From brian@brianpuccio.net Sat Jun 24 11:28:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDFF3B03C2 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:28:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22438-02 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:28:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server1.digitalrhapsody.com (server1.digitalrhapsody.com [204.15.133.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E3F3B08B4 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.13] (ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net [69.122.156.56]) by server1.digitalrhapsody.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1109BB7E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) In-Reply-To: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-2-1057010543" Message-Id: <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Brian Puccio Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:28:22 -0400 To: f-spot-list X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:28:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --Apple-Mail-2-1057010543 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Jun 24, 2006, at 10:39 AM, Andreas Henden wrote: > > I want sometimes to convert some of my cr2 files into jpg for > sending by > mail or something like that. I have used gimp but I can't seem to > get so > nice colors with gimp that is the default setting in f-spot. So I'm > asking for two things. Will there be any function for converting from > cr2 too jpg and or is there any way to get the same result with any > command line tool or any other tool with not too much effort! Look into tools like ufraw (it has a batch commandline mode) and dcraw (upon which ufraw is based) --Apple-Mail-2-1057010543 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQFEnVoW/FtTOrvSQB8RAnG9AJ0Wb432u5t30Lix+zC/slAr2o0TiQCfdN08 IHM6Bae6FzdD4L8k1WAliYc= =ztTX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-2-1057010543-- From andreas.henden@vice-chairman.net Sat Jun 24 12:37:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F973B01DC for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:37:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25834-01 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gordons.ginandtonic.no (gordons.ginandtonic.no [195.159.29.69]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC79B3B017E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host-81-191-129-68.bluecom.no ([81.191.129.68] helo=skrue.andeby) by gordons.ginandtonic.no with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1FuB8K-0002fs-9T; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:37:20 +0200 Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg From: Andreas Henden To: Brian Puccio In-Reply-To: <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:36:51 +0200 Message-Id: <1151167012.6113.12.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.417 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.047, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.417 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:37:45 -0000 the thing is that the default colors in f-spot is much nicer than with ufraw. On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 11:28 -0400, Brian Puccio wrote: > On Jun 24, 2006, at 10:39 AM, Andreas Henden wrote: > > > > I want sometimes to convert some of my cr2 files into jpg for > > sending by > > mail or something like that. I have used gimp but I can't seem to > > get so > > nice colors with gimp that is the default setting in f-spot. So I'm > > asking for two things. Will there be any function for converting from > > cr2 too jpg and or is there any way to get the same result with any > > command line tool or any other tool with not too much effort! > > Look into tools like ufraw (it has a batch commandline mode) and > dcraw (upon which ufraw is based) > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list -- Andreas Henden From gcgaf-f-spot-list@m.gmane.org Sat Jun 24 12:47:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982883B01DC for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:47:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26123-03 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9BA3B006E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FuBH9-0003mU-Px for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:27 +0200 Received: from p54b382b3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.179.130.179]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:27 +0200 Received: from cs_teawbdifws_001 by p54b382b3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:27 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Carsten Schurig Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:33 +0200 Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> <1151167012.6113.12.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54b382b3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060111) In-Reply-To: <1151167012.6113.12.camel@skrue.andeby> Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.216 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.094, BAYES_00=-2.599, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS=0.291, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.216 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:47:06 -0000 Andreas Henden schrieb: > the thing is that the default colors in f-spot is much nicer than with > ufraw. That's more an issue with the settings you choose in ufraw. I think f-spot just displays the embedded preview of the CR2 which was created by the cam. If you'd choose the same parameters in ufraw as the cam used, the results should be almost identical (but for the internal sharpening, which ufraw doesn't do). But I aggree it would be nice to have RAW->JPEG conversion better integrated into f-spot. I'd esp. like to have the resulting JPEG/PNG/whatever as a version of the RAW. Currently I add the resulting JPEG to f-spot and get an extra file this way... (But I'd still like to use an external tool as I think about purchasing bibble.) Just my 2¢, Carsten -- God's Final Message to His Creation: "We apologize for the inconvenience." (Douglas Adams: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish) From andreas.henden@vice-chairman.net Sat Jun 24 12:53:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDA23B01BE for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:53:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26384-06 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gordons.ginandtonic.no (gordons.ginandtonic.no [195.159.29.69]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB4F3B017E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host-81-191-129-68.bluecom.no ([81.191.129.68] helo=skrue.andeby) by gordons.ginandtonic.no with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1FuBNe-0002j2-0L for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:53:10 +0200 Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg From: Andreas Henden To: f-spot-list In-Reply-To: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:52:41 +0200 Message-Id: <1151167961.6113.14.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.433 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.031, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.433 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:53:49 -0000 hmm, why did I write saveing. It is of course saving.... On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 16:39 +0200, Andreas Henden wrote: > Hi > > I want sometimes to convert some of my cr2 files into jpg for sending by > mail or something like that. I have used gimp but I can't seem to get so > nice colors with gimp that is the default setting in f-spot. So I'm > asking for two things. Will there be any function for converting from > cr2 too jpg and or is there any way to get the same result with any > command line tool or any other tool with not too much effort! > > -- Andreas Henden From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Mon Jun 26 01:11:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10FA93B00A9 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:11:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22744-06 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:11:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9AA3B010B for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:11:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c29so856906nfb for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.223.13 with SMTP id v13mr4531484nfg; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C1E126.access.telenet.be ( [84.193.225.38]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l38sm2331799nfc.2006.06.25.22.10.59; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Good luck From: Thomas Van Machelen To: f-spot Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:10:59 +0200 Message-Id: <1151298659.5102.4.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.174 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.226, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.174 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 05:11:04 -0000 Hi Larry, Good luck this afternoon with the f-spot talk. I think we're all eager to hear about how well you did ;-) Best Regards, Thomas From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Mon Jun 26 09:29:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38EE3B0369 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20838-07 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F76C3B017B for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:29:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so826232uge for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.244.10 with SMTP id r10mr4973148ugh; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606260629g326d3cfem9ce1503749d57f38@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:29:13 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg In-Reply-To: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.765 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.635, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.765 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:29:16 -0000 On 6/24/06, Andreas Henden wrote: > the thing is that the default colors in f-spot is much nicer than with > ufraw. Which means that you need to setup UFRaw properly :) Consider this: white balance presets, base curve, gamma and linearity, color matrix on/off, input ICC-profile. Alexandre From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Mon Jun 26 09:30:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33D13B035F for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20890-09 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A2A3B009A for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so826983uge for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.8 with SMTP id d8mr4976101ugm; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606260630g69b5775fhfb6b3054cc383e33@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:30:43 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> <1151167012.6113.12.camel@skrue.andeby> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.828 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.572, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.828 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:30:46 -0000 On 6/24/06, Carsten Schurig wrote: > Currently I add the resulting JPEG to f-spot and get an extra file > this way... (But I'd still like to > use an external tool as I think about purchasing bibble.) Which means that we need a possibility to make a file a version of another one. Alexandre From andreas.henden@vice-chairman.net Mon Jun 26 13:22:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345F23B0330 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:22:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03046-01 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:22:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gordons.ginandtonic.no (gordons.ginandtonic.no [195.159.29.69]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE853B036C for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:22:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host-81-191-129-68.bluecom.no ([81.191.129.68] helo=skrue.andeby) by gordons.ginandtonic.no with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1FuunL-0004o4-3l; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:22:43 +0200 Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg From: Andreas Henden To: Alexandre Prokoudine In-Reply-To: <733f2c730606260629g326d3cfem9ce1503749d57f38@mail.gmail.com> References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <733f2c730606260629g326d3cfem9ce1503749d57f38@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:22:12 +0200 Message-Id: <1151342532.6611.3.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.441 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.023, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.441 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:22:59 -0000 On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 17:29 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On 6/24/06, Andreas Henden wrote: > > the thing is that the default colors in f-spot is much nicer than with > > ufraw. > > Which means that you need to setup UFRaw properly :) > > Consider this: white balance presets, base curve, gamma and linearity, > color matrix on/off, input ICC-profile. Things got much better after I got the right input profile. The hard part is setting up UFRaw porperly. Does f-spot calculate any values or does it use pre defined values? > > Alexandre > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > -- Andreas Henden From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Mon Jun 26 14:10:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80ACE3B036C for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:10:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06066-03 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:10:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2DC3B0161 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:10:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so960928uge for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.89.5 with SMTP id r5mr5228121ugl; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606261110s2ddc8f01qffeeb29bdc2feafe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:10:08 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg In-Reply-To: <1151342532.6611.3.camel@skrue.andeby> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <733f2c730606260629g326d3cfem9ce1503749d57f38@mail.gmail.com> <1151342532.6611.3.camel@skrue.andeby> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.881 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.519, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.881 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:10:11 -0000 On 6/26/06, Andreas Henden wrote: > Things got much better after I got the right input profile. The hard > part is setting up UFRaw porperly. Does f-spot calculate any values or > does it use pre defined values? It loads JPEG preview from Makernote area (if I'm not mistaken), so no calculation whatsoever for now :) Larry said before, that RAW processing has very high priority in his todo list, one of highest. Alexandre From nmarais@snowisp.com Mon Jun 26 16:11:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA24E3B00AB for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12499-06 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:11:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ctb-mesg8.saix.net (ctb-mesg8.saix.net [196.25.240.78]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE0A3B01DC for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from office.snowballeffect.net (dsl-146-194-202.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.194.202]) by ctb-mesg8.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303373184 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:11:00 +0200 (SAST) Received: (qmail 4114 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2006 00:50:09 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.20.130.19?) (10.20.130.19) by 192.168.20.58 with (RC4-MD5 encrypted) SMTP; 27 Jun 2006 00:50:09 +0200 Subject: Re: Big Collections/Complex Meta-data/Is F-Spot (going to be) for me? From: Neilen Marais To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1150804124.5909.60.camel@localhost> References: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1150804124.5909.60.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:10:51 +0200 Message-Id: <1151352651.18919.121.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:11:12 -0000 Hi Stephane On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 13:48 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > You can CC your email address to follow the discussion about them. Will do, thanks. > I like the idea of displaying more info about the selection (items per > tag, ...). You can probably submit a enhancement request in bugzilla and > attach a mockup of the UI. I'll see if I can come up with something... > As always in F-Spot, the problem is not > writing code to solve an issue, it's about writing good code and give > the user a nice experience. Yes, it shows. That's no doubt why F-Spot seems so nice to use :) Regards Neilen From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Tue Jun 27 07:43:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24823B00B3 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:43:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26554-06 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:42:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A3A3B00AB for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:42:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1304318uge for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.243.2 with SMTP id q2mr5970204ugh; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606270442j1be3d318mcea026affb62bb86@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:42:28 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <15179.194.237.142.21.1150786953.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <15179.194.237.142.21.1150786953.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.92 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.480, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.92 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:43:01 -0000 On 6/20/06, Bengt Thuree wrote: > To have the same material in many places will just cause a lot of > problems. On the other hand, having reviews of F-Spot, or links to F-Spot > in many places would be very nice. So, do we create new FAQ page and add it to the menu and grant Jordan rights to edit it? Alexandre From douglasjanderson@gmail.com Wed Jun 28 00:20:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25DE3B0011 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:20:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26924-01 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:20:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE60A3B0005 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:20:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c29so1172503nfb for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.19.7 with SMTP id w7mr243516nfi; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.157.18 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4511e6e80606272119t4a9b151apc3c9522faa227b35@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:19:31 -0400 From: "Douglas Anderson" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: http://f-spot.org/To_Do MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_622_14034199.1151468371058" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.414 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_40_50=0.496, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.414 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 21:17:42 -0400 X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 04:20:36 -0000 ------=_Part_622_14034199.1151468371058 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On http://f-spot.org/To_Do > The current EXIF display is too EXIF specific and extremely dull, The > layout needs to be redone and the the Items should be ordered by relative > importance. First sentence should be cleaned up a little bit. Not sure if "Items" was capetalized on purpose? The current EXIF display is too EXIF specific and extremely dull, the layout > needs to be redone and the items should be ordered by relative importance. ------=_Part_622_14034199.1151468371058 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On http://f-spot.org/To_Do
The current EXIF display is too EXIF specific and extremely dull, The layout needs to be redone and the the Items should be ordered by relative importance.

First sentence should be cleaned up a little bit. Not sure if "Items" was capetalized on purpose?

The current EXIF display is too EXIF specific and extremely dull, the layout needs to be redone and the items should be ordered by relative importance.

------=_Part_622_14034199.1151468371058-- From bengt@thuree.com Wed May 31 23:27:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137FE3B00C5 for ; Wed, 31 May 2006 23:27:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02395-05 for ; Wed, 31 May 2006 23:27:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (1-1-3-2a.ehn.lk.bostream.se [82.183.137.113]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91FB23B00DC for ; Wed, 31 May 2006 23:27:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by denton.thuree.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86C93AA97 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 05:27:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 194.237.142.21 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bengt) by denton.thuree.com with HTTP; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 12:27:23 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <35496.194.237.142.21.1149132443.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 12:27:23 +0900 (JST) From: "Bengt Thuree" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-thuree-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-thuree-MailScanner-From: bengt@thuree.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: Subject: One line patch for 333857 X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 03:27:45 -0000 FYI Just attached a small one liner patch to 333857 /Bengt http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333857 A one liner patch that disabled the Version drop down menu if there is no modifed versions. --- ../../f-spot/src/InfoBox.cs 2006-03-23 00:57:27.000000000 +0800 +++ src/InfoBox.cs 2006-06-01 11:22:46.000000000 +0800 @@ -272,7 +272,7 @@ public class InfoBox : VBox { photo.Time.ToShortDateString (), photo.Time.ToShortTimeString ()); #endif - version_option_menu.Sensitive = true; + version_option_menu.Sensitive = (photo.VersionIds.Length > 1); // Enable only if there are modified versions. PhotoVersionMenu menu = new PhotoVersionMenu (photo); menu.VersionIdChanged += new PhotoVersionMenu.VersionIdChangedHandler (HandleVersionIdChanged); menu.WidthRequest = version_option_menu.Allocation.Width; -- Bengt Thuree bengt@thuree.com From drberg1000@gmail.com Thu Jun 1 16:52:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958A93B0F4A for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:52:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06048-01 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:52:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hu-out-0102.google.com (hu-out-0102.google.com [72.14.214.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3787B3B0ED4 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:52:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by hu-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 34so247599hud for ; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=NEGjo8B1W4NOeZWtu5DW/YakZNml0x/lbol/wmYlvQRwF8F/Pnn7fOGI1ReFkcUpUx/N7cv6Gzz1em5R8EZDrVmlxaAxMKgjCqNHKLTQCUOKO6YFgYWoMcwjqhLliGkH/D6IBiA3/woQRJsvNrBZoEAJdXFx3ARxQyXhMVSp014= Received: by 10.35.76.9 with SMTP id d9mr1612366pyl; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.86.11 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:52:45 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Rotation descriptions X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 20:52:48 -0000 I'm wondering why "Rotate Left" and "Rotate Right" were chosen to describe the commands instead of "Rotate Clockwise" and "Rotate Counterclockwise". The best I can guess is length of the words. If thats the case, here's a little antecdotal feed back on usability. It wasn't until I was half through writing this e-mail that I noticed the small little icons noted which direction the image would be rotated. I am having a difficult time remembering if it is the top of the photo or the bottom of the photo that moves. Personally, I think it would be clearer if a larger arrow and/or Clockwise/Counterclockwise were used. Just my $0.02 --Dave From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Thu Jun 1 18:53:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64483B0061 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:53:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11537-10 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:53:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E693B0072 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:53:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so283419uge for ; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=h05J7wusko7OClEUYg5fXPI0GaXbUNidt/pmzwguU8WHvw+Dm2D0/dTlJXp1XeHpqS8v0I1HiLEafebe2XUTZDctNPvMdpNR8UCHizTUIZd0GNeu8nLqLPegyiUjyRf4on8+C8n/DfyFj92omS7JeF3wwlzRwdpnQVBC9Agax6E= Received: by 10.67.105.19 with SMTP id h19mr207408ugm; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606011553t6fe9beccpa31aea24fab46df9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 02:53:32 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.056 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.056 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Rotation descriptions X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 22:53:37 -0000 On 6/2/06, David Berg wrote: > I'm wondering why "Rotate Left" and "Rotate Right" were chosen to > describe the commands instead of "Rotate Clockwise" and "Rotate > Counterclockwise". The best I can guess is length of the words. If > thats the case, here's a little antecdotal feed back on usability. > > It wasn't until I was half through writing this e-mail that I noticed > the small little icons noted which direction the image would be > rotated. I am having a difficult time remembering if it is the top of > the photo or the bottom of the photo that moves. Personally, I think > it would be clearer if a larger arrow and/or > Clockwise/Counterclockwise were used. Indeed. They are usually cut to Rotate CW and Rotate CCW. And we can still provide hints for menu items to explain what CW/CCW mean for those who doesn't know. Alexandre From stephane@delcroix.org Fri Jun 2 10:07:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24413B1144 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:07:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30984-09 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:07:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 26.mail-out.ovh.net (26.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.42.179]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEAA43B10B6 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:06:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12848 invoked by uid 503); 2 Jun 2006 14:06:59 -0000 Received: (QMFILT: 1.0); 02 Jun 2006 14:06:59 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail44.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 26.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2006 14:06:59 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2006 14:06:50 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2006 14:06:48 -0000 From: Stephane Delcroix To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:08:21 +0200 Message-Id: <1149257301.7904.10.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.951 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.513, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -1.951 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Bug 318376 =?utf-8?b?4oCT?= JPEG saving ignores original quality X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:07:09 -0000 Do not choose default for the user anymore... just try to guess the original compression factor ! I've submitted a patch, based on jpegdump, adding that ability to f-spot. the bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318376 the comment: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318376#c9 the patch: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=66658&action=view Regards, Stephane From drberg1000@gmail.com Fri Jun 2 16:07:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3953B02BE for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:07:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21051-09 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9213B0491 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id x31so1203953pye for ; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:07:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Dd1NExlSLCwENNgvGHiBKyq4GBjy1u9EDTVzZGfr8dRyg0Tfy+CDWxtNTc0+Rce2OCGeqeBhzjtgGYCuSi8LGN9IHypVYY0vEVKspoOxfbn3vIdUixBNiuS36NZcu+jSwtWDdi5ECcmKxlPqQaE/kndLzA2yCnU/IOuS99mGeMs= Received: by 10.35.49.4 with SMTP id b4mr2824500pyk; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.86.11 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 13:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 15:07:51 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.543 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.432, BAYES_05=-1.11, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.543 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 20:07:57 -0000 Is there a way to find photos containing "Tag X" AND "Tag Y" instead of the default OR search? It would be really nice to be able to write more complex queries. --Dave From fred@uh.cu Fri Jun 2 17:06:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0933B006F for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:06:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24674-04 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:06:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from proxy2.uh.cu (proxy2.uh.cu [200.55.139.213]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5123B042A for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:06:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy2.uh.cu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4D12FCEB for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:03:26 -0400 (AST) Received: from comuh.uh.cu (comuh.uh.cu [10.6.100.69]) by proxy2.uh.cu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C192FCE5 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:03:26 -0400 (AST) Received: from comuh (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by comuh.uh.cu (Postfix) with SMTP id 50CBB1680DE for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:58:37 -0400 (CDT) Received: from hogwarts.reduh.uh.cu (hogwarts.reduh.uh.cu [10.6.70.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EXP1024-RC4-SHA (56/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by comuh.uh.cu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337D91680D5 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:58:37 -0400 (CDT) From: Yoanis Gil Delgado Organization: Universidad de la Habana Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:05:48 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary-00=_wgKgEOjcTDYK+xh" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020300 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.923 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.676, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_10_20=1.351, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.923 X-Spam-Level: Subject: My first experiences with f-spot X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 21:06:50 -0000 --Boundary-00=_wgKgEOjcTDYK+xh Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi list!!! . My name is Yoanis Gil Delgado and I'm studying Computers Science at the University of Havana. I want to thanks all of you for this great software. I spent some time classifying my pictures and these are some stuffs i missed: 1-) Multiple picture selection. See 4) 2-) Undo actions. Note i mean "action" and not a "picture editing action". A very common mistake(for me) is to attach the wrong tag to a picture. I though Ctrl+Z would solve the problem, but it did not worked. 3-) Which tags are associated to a file. I know that in browse mode every image has an overlay set of related tags. But, let says the image "Rose, Joe and Mary.jpg" belongs to 3 categories (Joe,Rose and Mary). Each of these categories are child of the People's category (yes, those are people names). In this example the overlay shows the same icons for the 3 categories(People's tag icon). So there is no way to know the categories names the image belongs at the very first look. Still would like to see, when in browse mode, the categories name in some place. 4-) Tags shorcuts. Use case: Lets say i have 4 main tags 1-) Rose 2-) Joe 3-) Mary 4-) Me and a collection of 100 photos of them. Among those i can find photos from Rose and Joe, Mary and Rose, Joe and Me and so on. In the version i'm using(0.1.11), i needed to make a lot of clicks to classify them. It would be nice if there is a way to assign a shortcut to every tag, so when i can tag images by making clicks. P.D: Sorry for the big talk and i hope i can put some code soon. --Boundary-00=_wgKgEOjcTDYK+xh Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi list!!! . My name is Yoanis Gil Delgado and I'm studying Computers Science at the University of Havana. I want to thanks all of you for this great software.

I spent some time classifying my pictures and these are some stuffs i missed:

1-) Multiple picture selection. See 4)

2-) Undo actions. Note i mean "action" and not a "picture editing action". A very common mistake(for me) is to attach the wrong tag to a picture. I though Ctrl+Z would solve the problem, but it did not worked.

3-) Which tags are associated to a file. I know that in browse mode every image has an overlay set of related tags. But, let says the image "Rose, Joe and Mary.jpg" belongs to 3 categories (Joe,Rose and Mary). Each of these categories are child of the People's category (yes, those are people names). In this example the overlay shows the same icons for the 3 categories(People's tag icon). So there is no way to know the categories names the image belongs at the very first look. Still would like to see, when in browse mode, the categories name in some place.

4-) Tags shorcuts. Use case:

Lets say i have 4 main tags

1-) Rose

2-) Joe

3-) Mary

4-) Me

and a collection of 100 photos of them. Among those i can find photos from Rose and Joe, Mary and Rose, Joe and Me and so on. In the version i'm using(0.1.11), i needed to make a lot of clicks to classify them. It would be nice if there is a way to assign a shortcut to every tag, so when i can tag images by making clicks.

P.D: Sorry for the big talk and i hope i can put some code soon.

--Boundary-00=_wgKgEOjcTDYK+xh-- From m.j.hutchinson@gmail.com Fri Jun 2 19:40:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37803B11CC for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:40:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31640-09 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:40:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6263B047B for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:40:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l37so1214960nfc for ; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:40:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iiVu5uNrvJwp3bSGHpJY9ba46wGigTLj4d0CNKf3K9X9qjj7f45EEOk/NXQZkkmcWjP5YcNM016eCNZLvxOhR0kf7shx9vFtXvQBFNaIp6Y/AJDZYQsn6zX/X9lRXAjMGv4zM1lFWDLQ91EZiTPEHIQSPx9zA+FhdFWS+1VP4c4= Received: by 10.49.14.18 with SMTP id r18mr2342590nfi; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.40.5 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 00:40:48 +0100 From: "Michael Hutchinson" To: "Yoanis Gil Delgado" In-Reply-To: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.431 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.169, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.431 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: My first experiences with f-spot X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 23:40:50 -0000 On 6/2/06, Yoanis Gil Delgado wrote: > > 1-) Multiple picture selection. See 4) Use Ctrl+Click to add to the selection, or Shift+Click to select a range. I don't know is this is present in the version you're using, but it's in SVN. > using(0.1.11), i needed to make a lot of clicks to classify them. It would > be nice if there is a way to assign a shortcut to every tag, so when i can > tag images by making clicks. There are two shortcuts here. Hitting 't' will allow you to edit the tags on the selected photo by typing, and this has tab completion and will create new tags if they don't already exist. The other way is to use the right-clcik context menu. This is very useful, as it can be applied to a multiple selection. Michael From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 06:10:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0AF3B0605 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:10:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27673-08 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:10:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C063B0433 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:10:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l37so1263551nfc for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:10:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=QWg9R1s3upux3E3ZVxS8WnCj530RszgrW9kojhh/YwvEMOozpK7yB+76ECSsqqN3Sq+fUMnc7tlCpalOfmWoyMjWItSBMcv0VX7PkMp+G1R6b4+7EUf/rQRUUgwtfvrkhA7JhkOhuU+jONyXV9lAGw3BsSAUOni818nPjHnI20M= Received: by 10.49.61.17 with SMTP id o17mr2648993nfk; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C1EDBE.access.telenet.be ( [84.193.237.190]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g1sm3276320nfe.2006.06.03.03.10.24; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:10:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: David Berg In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:10:22 +0200 Message-Id: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.213 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.387, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.213 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 10:10:28 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 15:07 -0500, David Berg wrote: > Is there a way to find photos containing "Tag X" AND "Tag Y" instead > of the default OR search? It would be really nice to be able to write > more complex queries. > It is not in current CVS head, but there is a separate branch (F_SPOT_QUERY) that allows you to do more complex queries, among which the one you describe. Regards, Thomas From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 10:46:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14C83B03FF for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 10:46:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10344-02 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 10:46:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.238]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E0A3B0118 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 10:46:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so719730wri for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 07:46:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=kAmiNJHc+odyyiJiIsZi2t7K50yq9Rc5ISUrp6OiqU7WZyQ1LhpACnx5+rGi/Ev/KIW3q+knFN8yPnW5Nc29bQnWbjrIqfBbRiF7KPfbQmUqIrtu8gLlCR/TZUWzsPcTIi7kOw3nADqHVsZMp3wtA/ri4OwGCoBCzakzOTvSEO4= Received: by 10.64.142.19 with SMTP id p19mr2487044qbd; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 07:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e17sm774698qba.2006.06.03.07.46.09; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 07:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4481A0AF.6090401@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 10:46:07 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list References: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 14:46:11 -0000 Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > It is not in current CVS head, but there is a separate branch > (F_SPOT_QUERY) that allows you to do more complex queries, among which > the one you describe. Speaking of which - does anyone know what the current status is on getting that merged back into head? I really like the complex queries, but as I'm still submitting patches periodically, it's easier to work from head. Anything I can do to accelerate the process? Warren From lewing@novell.com Sat Jun 3 12:17:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A793B0712 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:17:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14666-09 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922623B073B for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13734 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2006 16:17:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Jun 2006 16:17:31 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Warren Baird In-Reply-To: <4481A0AF.6090401@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> References: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> <4481A0AF.6090401@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 11:25:23 -0500 Message-Id: <1149351924.3587.68.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.462 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.063, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.462 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list Subject: Re: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 16:17:33 -0000 I hoping to start merging things into head starting sometime this coming week after I get a chance to look over everything that has stacked up. Hopefully the query branch will follow soon after that. Thanks to everyone who has been reviewing and submitting patches, it has been great to see so much activity. --Larry On Sat, 2006-06-03 at 10:46 -0400, Warren Baird wrote: > Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > It is not in current CVS head, but there is a separate branch > > (F_SPOT_QUERY) that allows you to do more complex queries, among which > > the one you describe. > > Speaking of which - does anyone know what the current status is on > getting that merged back into head? I really like the complex queries, > but as I'm still submitting patches periodically, it's easier to work > from head. > > Anything I can do to accelerate the process? > > Warren > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list From sebwrede@googlemail.com Sat Jun 3 06:56:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F683B04A9 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:56:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29573-07 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:56:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD283B0614 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l37so1267637nfc for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:56:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=googlemail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=qkX8H0Sn8uyrgknDvJ4t+5BdAHoAaMxiaMgSHcX92vQBj23tpxzDTa63SDFN9gSnyyfil5p774LWHD47kvBBQvmE+WJerUegmaptcBFcbPm08mwJOg8npnuHgXeJPjVkcvHNeNY7hSfuiT7JZKO4HvY+Z/NUfxVfi2x2FBuaObA= Received: by 10.48.221.15 with SMTP id t15mr641087nfg; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ( [84.61.8.82]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i1sm3283429nfe.2006.06.03.03.56.11; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:56:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Sebastian Wrede To: Thomas Van Machelen In-Reply-To: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> References: <1149329422.5435.0.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:56:09 +0200 Message-Id: <1149332169.9401.14.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:30:23 -0400 Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Finding photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 10:56:15 -0000 Dear Thomas, dear F-Spot-Developers, First of all, I'd like to congratulate all of you to the great software you developed so far! F-Spot is really cool and very competitive compared to other tools in that area. As David and Thomas brought the topic up, I would like to ask a question that puzzles me frequently... Why does the F-Spot query patch not get integrated into the main branch? IMHO it provides already a really useful improvement over the existing query features. Do you have separate plans for an enhancement of the query functionality or are there other issues with it? Best regards, Sebastian Am Samstag, den 03.06.2006, 12:10 +0200 schrieb Thomas Van Machelen: > It is not in current CVS head, but there is a separate branch > (F_SPOT_QUERY) that allows you to do more complex queries, among which > the one you describe. > > Regards, > Thomas > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From lewing@novell.com Sat Jun 3 12:37:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199283B05AE for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:37:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15977-01 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE4A3B02FE for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:37:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13743 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2006 16:37:04 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Jun 2006 16:37:04 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Stephane Delcroix In-Reply-To: <1149257301.7904.10.camel@localhost> References: <1149257301.7904.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 11:45:07 -0500 Message-Id: <1149353107.3587.74.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.462 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.063, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.462 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Bug 318376 =?windows-1251?q?=96?= JPEG saving ignores original quality X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 16:37:07 -0000 I've only scanned the patch so far, but it makes me wonder how much of the jpegdump code is actually used for the quality guessing. F-Spot already includes code to handle marker parsing and it might make sense to just extract the portion that scans coefficients and integrate it with the other code. --Larry On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 16:08 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Do not choose default for the user anymore... just try to guess the > original compression factor ! > > I've submitted a patch, based on jpegdump, adding that ability to > f-spot. > > the bug: > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318376 > > the comment: > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318376#c9 > > the patch: > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=66658&action=view > > > Regards, > > Stephane > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list From gabriel.burt@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 20:51:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5B03B0383 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:51:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06189-06 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53A93B0317 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i3so763046wra for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:51:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bwnnhpe3zxbYkwmnuaLdPtnuBU7E+tqbOn8u4aSS9ikcTy1fIg+gu1eH7IvIxj7WXHT3eLK6zu0/LxJg6u3NVHSktwOeoz4AAnPFO63hdep/HQLF4cX7CyRndTFqqNJzY3kUOb2/Y2NiTLrpaNch6ctE/VMPzKjfiZtxo2JIFbs= Received: by 10.54.140.8 with SMTP id n8mr936028wrd; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.105.3 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 17:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <24348e0606031751j481b5d84xb82ca4926b5bf9f5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 19:51:10 -0500 From: "Gabriel Burt" To: "Tys von Gaza" In-Reply-To: <7749526e0605021653p37309326vacde825683cf432@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <7749526e0605021653p37309326vacde825683cf432@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.338 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.262, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.338 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem make installing X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 00:51:13 -0000 On 5/2/06, Tys von Gaza wrote: > I've got f-spot compling on ubuntu dapper but am running into the > following problem when running make install, any suggestions? > > Making install in po > make[1]: Entering directory `/home/tys/src/fspotcvs/f-spot/po' > make[1]: install_sh@: Command not found > make[1]: *** [install-data-yes] Error 127 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tys/src/fspotcvs/f-spot/po' > make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 Try doing sudo apt-get install build-essential Gabriel From gabriel.burt@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 20:52:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DF63B0383 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:52:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06566-03 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:52:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E7B3B00DF for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i3so763172wra for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:52:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ugI1/Z7LNnoQMDtF2kdSmXmMVm56AhNLgrA4LB0xrsEnFRfpv4ewoCJlfMqN2Nclg73MU3k8Cf7jx4ZZ9VEErdu4muS14jO5GPn6/sKu319m3lWobB5tvdt7bPBtTcyrCW9GSih+ZOqPw0Sveba/zPh2vGVZhMMJWik0rnE+8IE= Received: by 10.54.93.11 with SMTP id q11mr3486370wrb; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.105.3 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 17:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <24348e0606031752x550d2501g79bb93087d6726d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 19:52:41 -0500 From: "Gabriel Burt" To: "Frank Henderson" In-Reply-To: <4457837B.90604@twcny.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4457837B.90604@twcny.rr.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.351 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.249, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.351 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Uploading photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 00:52:43 -0000 On 5/2/06, Frank Henderson wrote: > Anybody got a suggestion as to why photos I send via email to individual > recipients don't arrive? Perhaps it's a problem with your mail client? Have you tried sending them to an address you can check to make sure it's not their client or misunderstanding? Gabriel From gabriel.burt@gmail.com Sat Jun 3 21:03:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724F83B0108 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 21:03:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06740-08 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 21:03:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.233]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65423B00DF for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 21:03:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i3so763886wra for ; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:03:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Eo9Ve9yzd40CCVkDG4O8wQzGTrLfLKFdm5rZI6NYOVXBck0rP0NBdB/66gqCwngfBCgX1/XmlCBcbBcomq5Gzy+hUWIngpPM7mW7r6SitB8eNKM4cXCFhOeoFrQ7vFqL6fnCYQ/KcHEq604MkA6lldOQh5oXuVFKTeMv4FH/Y1w= Received: by 10.54.80.16 with SMTP id d16mr3050549wrb; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.105.3 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 18:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <24348e0606031803h6493b93cof1a74f182c4b3fb8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 20:03:34 -0500 From: "Gabriel Burt" To: "Yoanis Gil Delgado" In-Reply-To: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200606021705.52073.fred@uh.cu> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.363 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.237, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.363 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: My first experiences with f-spot X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 01:03:39 -0000 On 6/2/06, Yoanis Gil Delgado wrote: > 2-) Undo actions. Note i mean "action" and not a "picture editing action". A > very common mistake(for me) is to attach the wrong tag to a picture. I > though Ctrl+Z would solve the problem, but it did not worked. Please file an enhancement bug report for this. > 3-) Which tags are associated to a file. I know that in browse mode every > image has an overlay set of related tags. But, let says the image "Rose, Joe > and Mary.jpg" belongs to 3 categories (Joe,Rose and Mary). Each of these > categories are child of the People's category (yes, those are people names). > In this example the overlay shows the same icons for the 3 > categories(People's tag icon). So there is no way to know the categories > names the image belongs at the very first look. Still would like to see, > when in browse mode, the categories name in some place. I believe the icon related portion of this bug has been reported at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332584 - though the naming part isn't. It is simple to pop up labels for the tags shown in Edit mode, but it is more difficult for Browse mode because the icons aren't drawn as separate widgets but onto a common canvas (I believe). This part of the issue probably has been reported in some other bug, though I'm not sure. Thanks for the ideas, they are appreciated. Gabriel From mercen@mercen.org Sun Jun 4 05:37:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1540B3B013C for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 05:37:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08301-08 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 05:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (smtp4-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.30]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49CAB3B00BD for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 05:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pu-erh (lns-bzn-26-82-254-105-206.adsl.proxad.net [82.254.105.206]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999E8547E8 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 11:37:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mercen by pu-erh with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Fmp3u-00072T-Qr for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 11:38:22 +0200 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 11:38:22 +0200 From: Thomas Paris To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060604093822.GD23532@pu-erh> Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org References: <1142363109.12790.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1142368032.8661.127.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1142631005.12801.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1148508089.13380.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1148508089.13380.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Compare photos X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 09:37:40 -0000 Hi James, Thanks for working on this feature. I've just given your patch a very quick try and I think, once it's ready, I'm gonna love it. On Wed May 24 at 23:01 (+0100), you wrote: > To use the compare view select two (or more) photos in icon view then > select the new full screen view icon (I'm not to sure how to make a new > icon just yet) with the "Compare photos" tip. Do we really need a new mode? Can't comparison be a special case of Edit? What I'm trying to say is that I believe it would be good enough to have only one button to go to both "normal" Edit Mode (EM) and Compare View (CV). If only one picture is selected then go to EM. If several have been selected then go to CV. How does that sound? Or maybe have Edit Mode itself be used for comparison? You might have guessed I don't like the demultiplication of modes and views ;) > Finally - is this even useful? Sure is! Thanks again for your work! Thomas PARIS -- http://mercen.org <- news http://mercen.org/gallery <- photos From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 4 09:35:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6EB3B0155 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:35:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19867-03 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F273B009F for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:35:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k54DZ9EH010655 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 4 Jun 2006 23:35:09 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: Tys von Gaza In-Reply-To: <7749526e0605021653p37309326vacde825683cf432@mail.gmail.com> References: <7749526e0605021653p37309326vacde825683cf432@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 23:35:11 +1000 Message-Id: <1149428112.10029.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem make installing X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 13:35:15 -0000 On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 17:53 -0600, Tys von Gaza wrote: > I've got f-spot compling on ubuntu dapper but am running into the > following problem when running make install, any suggestions? > > Making install in po > make[1]: Entering directory `/home/tys/src/fspotcvs/f-spot/po' > make[1]: install_sh@: Command not found > make[1]: *** [install-data-yes] Error 127 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tys/src/fspotcvs/f-spot/po' > make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 > _______________________________________________ I never managed to figure out the reason for this, but the quick and dirty workaround (which needs to be re-applied every now and then), is to add the absolut path to install-sh in po/Makefile. In my case install_sh = /home/bengt/CVS/f-spot/f-spot/install-sh From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Sun Jun 4 20:28:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587BC3B0248 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:28:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21815-04 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:28:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52A43B029E for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:28:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so939442wri for ; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:28:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=PElp/4zEdhyVapmAJRrnypJALSF8r5wF+/xx5V14J6H9PSwSl/35HUvyc+2n8EdgQcfGFfEsDLPmbG29dVNJDWBw8yPlNM5xaOYBLsc++6HNSDsAOFkdzedVrU5XiyafUsrPaz2duJkpYRAVa1+G6qRvfGBiLU2kTDias/xqQ/E= Received: by 10.65.250.16 with SMTP id c16mr3034438qbs; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f13sm1779141qba.2006.06.04.17.28.45; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44837AB9.4070402@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 20:28:41 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Patch for pre-caching Images X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 00:28:48 -0000 Hi all, I've created a patch that enables pre-caching of the 'expected next' item in full-screen mode (and secondarily in 'edit-photo' mode as well). I couldn't find a bug to attach the patch to, so I created a new one: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343856 Basically, with the patch, f-spot tries to guess what image you are going to load next, and loads it in the background - if it completes the background load before you switch to the next image, then it redraws immediately, rather than doing the slow, progressive load thing. I'm interested in feedback on this from other people --- for me, it makes a *huge* difference when viewing images in full-screen mode... Warren From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 5 01:46:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11BC3B04C0 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 01:46:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05459-08 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 01:46:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF383B0297 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 01:46:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k555kZ5D001090 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 15:46:36 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 15:46:41 +1000 Message-Id: <1149486401.7586.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Subject: cannot install `libfspot.la' X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 05:46:41 -0000 Is it only me, or have something changed during the last few days? /Bengt > bengt@jolly:~/CVS/f-spot/f-spot$ ./autogen.sh --prefix=/opt/unstable/f-spot > make all install > > /bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs /opt/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot > /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=install /usr/bin/install -c libfspot.la /opt/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/libfspot.la > libtool: install: error: cannot install `libfspot.la' to a directory not ending in /usr/local/lib/f-spot > make[2]: *** [install-fspotlibLTLIBRARIES] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/bengt/CVS/f-spot/f-spot/libfspot' > make[1]: *** [install-am] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/bengt/CVS/f-spot/f-spot/libfspot' > make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 5 23:09:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665183B0074 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 23:09:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18950-01 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 23:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6AE3B0005 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 23:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5639KSU018437 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 13:09:22 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 13:09:30 +1000 Message-Id: <1149563370.7586.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Another small 2 liner patch (343970) X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 03:09:26 -0000 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343970 Rittyan found a bug where the time in browsemode is in local time, but the time in the info box is in UTC time. >From IRC session I think I found a bug... in our f-spot's browsers photo's date is 6:26 and 6:57... and on sidebar its 2:26 and 2:57... nothing about this "2:26" and "2:57" in metadata browser :< (real time of course is 6am) http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/5682/fspotbug6df.jpg Checking the InfoBox.cs code on row 271 gives: date_label.Text = String.Format ("{0}\n{1}", photo.Time.ToShortDateString (), photo.Time.ToShortTimeString ()); And checking IconView.cs on row 245 gives: if (cell_width > 200) { date = photo.Time.ToLocalTime ().ToString (); } else { date = photo.Time.ToLocalTime ().ToShortDateString (); } The patch I created is as follows: date_label.Text = String.Format ("{0}\n{1}", - photo.Time.ToShortDateString (), - photo.Time.ToShortTimeString ()); + photo.Time.ToLocalTime ().ToShortDateString (), + photo.Time.ToLocalTime ().ToShortTimeString ()); From drberg1000@gmail.com Wed Jun 7 13:33:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F057F3B0135 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 13:33:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00939-03 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 13:33:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111163B00C6 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 13:33:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id x31so357322pye for ; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:33:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=rrrDuk7thGbmxCaV+GpDgO64AwgBzkX9b2BdjNGQ+YeaRhQg7sVHAqTbP9GyoMI4x73agoWOBS1RAN6LBlGQGAyTvOFbtAD9JvKtMaW1DAOw/OoXLma0PVCI95fGE98Kj+Tau7HhLIEgBZG8kGg5+CXqpLKVW9q4INobBEeinhE= Received: by 10.35.40.10 with SMTP id s10mr1001021pyj; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.86.11 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 10:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 12:33:03 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.674 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.632, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.674 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 17:33:06 -0000 I just imported some photos from my camera which does not have any orientation information. I rotated the photos, then exported them to flickr. When viewing them on flickr they are not rotated. I also notice that when I view the image in the Metadata Browser the images are not rotated there. I do not have flickr "auto-magically" rotating images when they are uploaded. Am I missing something or is this a bug? From lewing@novell.com Wed Jun 7 14:02:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1C73B088A for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:02:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02871-10 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA533B0BDC for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17179 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2006 18:02:03 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jun 2006 18:02:03 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: David Berg In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 13:10:13 -0500 Message-Id: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.463 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.064, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.463 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 18:02:05 -0000 On the flickr site turn on the auto rotate option, that will let them display the way you expect there. F-Spot rotates jpegs by changing the exif orientation of the image because it is a small relatively safe modification. This produces an image just like what the camera would have produced if it did have an orientation sensor. I chose to do it this way because f-spot supports loading these images correctly and other rotation methods, lossless or otherwise, require much more drastic modifications to but the image and the metadata. The metadata dialog displays the thumbnail stored in the exif data which is always stored with the sensor orientation, so that is how you would expect it to look. That said, I will probably add an option to the preferences dialog to do rotation of the coefficients sometime in the near future because the code is already in f-spot for other reasons and some people prefer it. --Larry On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 12:33 -0500, David Berg wrote: > I just imported some photos from my camera which does not have any > orientation information. I rotated the photos, then exported them to > flickr. When viewing them on flickr they are not rotated. I also > notice that when I view the image in the Metadata Browser the images > are not rotated there. I do not have flickr "auto-magically" rotating > images when they are uploaded. > > Am I missing something or is this a bug? > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list From drberg1000@gmail.com Thu Jun 8 00:57:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43C33B031C for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 00:57:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07464-03 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 00:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB2A3B02B2 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 00:57:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id f25so417713pyf for ; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 21:57:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kyEBRFvWPiHV/Jy8sgVIKhVJJisyU/sOYSWSObFfmz4qeiiXfe9v6PGvBUYIpzK94x/19oUiiSJUfTZ2gQ3N1JRYyPC12ZlssbWPsJ+g2lLOHwypoZr2bAgwLLqh6OVDwW6pOLVGKlOVmycQ0AVkV+NPy+Fdj5AduYMHokaQ8sY= Received: by 10.35.89.10 with SMTP id r10mr1795799pyl; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 21:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.86.11 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 21:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 23:57:48 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.403 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.197, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.403 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 04:57:51 -0000 On 6/7/06, Larry Ewing wrote: > On the flickr site turn on the auto rotate option, that will let them > display the way you expect there. F-Spot rotates jpegs by changing the Hmmmm..... An f-spot rotated image does not display as rotated on flickr weather I use their "auto rotate" or not. Using their online uploading tool instead of f-spot's also doesn't make a difference. Again, am I missing something? --Dave > exif orientation of the image because it is a small relatively safe > modification. This produces an image just like what the camera would > have produced if it did have an orientation sensor. I chose to do it > this way because f-spot supports loading these images correctly and > other rotation methods, lossless or otherwise, require much more drastic > modifications to but the image and the metadata. The metadata dialog > displays the thumbnail stored in the exif data which is always stored > with the sensor orientation, so that is how you would expect it to look. > > That said, I will probably add an option to the preferences dialog to do > rotation of the coefficients sometime in the near future because the > code is already in f-spot for other reasons and some people prefer it. > > --Larry > > On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 12:33 -0500, David Berg wrote: > > I just imported some photos from my camera which does not have any > > orientation information. I rotated the photos, then exported them to > > flickr. When viewing them on flickr they are not rotated. I also > > notice that when I view the image in the Metadata Browser the images > > are not rotated there. I do not have flickr "auto-magically" rotating > > images when they are uploaded. > > > > Am I missing something or is this a bug? > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > From jaq@spacepants.org Thu Jun 8 01:51:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6323B055F for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 01:51:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10157-02 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 01:51:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx01.anchor.net.au (mx01.anchor.net.au [202.4.234.253]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE95D3B0540 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 01:51:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dawn.casa (office.bridge.anchor.net.au [202.4.235.109]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.anchor.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92EB21C4D8 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:51:40 +1000 (EST) Received: by dawn.casa (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E46562B05DD; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:52:42 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:52:42 +1000 From: Jamie Wilkinson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060608055242.GC21445@spacepants.org> Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org References: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: beefmail v0.0 X-No-CC: Please respect the setting of my Mail-Followup-To header User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.398 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.066, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.398 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 05:51:44 -0000 This one time, at band camp, David Berg wrote: >On 6/7/06, Larry Ewing wrote: >>On the flickr site turn on the auto rotate option, that will let them >>display the way you expect there. F-Spot rotates jpegs by changing the > >Hmmmm..... An f-spot rotated image does not display as rotated on >flickr weather I use their "auto rotate" or not. Using their online >uploading tool instead of f-spot's also doesn't make a difference. > >Again, am I missing something? I noticed a comment in the FlickrRemote.cs file yesterday that says something along the lines of "FIXME: flickr needs rotation", so I suspect that the orientation data could be included in the file upload. I've been playing around in there so if I find out what's going on with that I'll submit a patch. No guarantees though ;-) From steffentchr@gmail.com Wed Jun 7 03:22:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1D73B0C5C for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 03:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22221-08 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 03:22:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BD13B0343 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 03:22:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h2so84527nfe for ; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:22:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to:from:subject:date:x-mailer:sender; b=sBXtRxvuIP++tQikDFyVodcxJq3nExQ8hGuP5+j16BbDL8LHJvS0FP0mqJqfcPpS+ETMoeWzBmc0jTZsZ3PafOP+SQT4YTzO7ehnVB/SHrNq3Eg8Sg2ddcdaW2oZKFGV+Oc5sUFMFAnT8yndtnVsdLQDNteCcQxAgMeGkAXkeZY= Received: by 10.48.157.15 with SMTP id f15mr187524nfe; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.17.57? ( [83.93.78.185]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2sm585578nfe.2006.06.07.00.22.41; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <50103E49-B987-4933-8D00-F99D37F674DD@refresh.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Steffen Tiedemann Christensen Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 09:22:40 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) Sender: Steffen Tiedemann Christensen X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:55:08 -0400 Subject: Setting the endpoint of the Flickr API X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 07:22:45 -0000 Hi guys, I'm a member of the development team at 23 (http://www.23hq.com), and I have a small request/suggestion in that regard. Various photo sharing sites (i.e. our own and beta.zooomr.com) have implemented the Flickr API and allow third party apps such as F-Spot to enable photo export simply by changing the API endpoint. Would it be possible to allow user to manually change the Flickr API endpoint from http:///www.flickr.com/services/rest to something different such as http://www.23hq.com/services/rest or http:// beta.zooomr.com/services/rest. (Refer to this forum thread http://www.23hq.com/forums/message-view? message_id=742083 for a 23 user who got F-Spot exporting to work simply by adding a line to his /etc/hosts file -- this indicates that no other changes are needed in order have full cross-site support with your current code.) Thanks, Steffen Tiedemann Christensen http://www.23hq.com steffen@23hq.com From m487396@rocketmail.com Thu Jun 8 05:12:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F753B0598 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 05:12:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21911-04 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 05:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.86]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D9753B0505 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 05:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 75403 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jun 2006 09:12:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rocketmail.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=CiE/PEk3TmueAOqiBUMhBMt8S8GjK+FL2y81Gt0DE3fHOccQJBnFR7wARvRyZNLUWQo7jzzEN0CWjMo+zjyzMFP9qz0xAO3leDyCiqc6sX8ez4VZtNIxKD9znRZXjcqMbomU8eq9CscFkF8ZFnZSB5FArfksbt0E7bPZF2+WcuU= ; Message-ID: <20060608091250.75401.qmail@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [211.31.121.246] by web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:12:50 EST Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:12:50 +1000 (EST) From: "Mark A. Bell" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:55:08 -0400 Subject: problem compiling on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:12:52 -0000 Hello, I'd like to compile the f-spot-0.1.11 release on Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper. I used 'apt-get build-dep f-spot' to download dependencies. I downloaded the f-spot-0.1.11.tar.bz2 archive. ./configure fails at the following: checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate appending configuration tag "F77" to libtool checking what warning flags to pass to the C compiler... -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes checking what language compliance flags to pass to the C compiler... checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.0... yes (version 2.10.3) checking for mono... /usr/bin/mono checking for mcs... /usr/bin/mcs checking for mono.pc... found checking for Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll... configure: error: missing required mono DLL: Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll However, find / -iname 'Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll' Gives: /usr/lib/mono/gac/Mono.Data.SqliteClient/2.0.0.0__0738eb9f132ed756/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll /usr/lib/mono/2.0/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll Is my configure script looking for the file in the wrong place? Suggestions gratefully received. - mark /f-spot-0.1.11 Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com From lewing@novell.com Thu Jun 8 15:07:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E023B102C for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:07:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30616-09 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461233B1028 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18685 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2006 19:07:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Jun 2006 19:07:43 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Steffen Tiedemann Christensen In-Reply-To: <50103E49-B987-4933-8D00-F99D37F674DD@refresh.dk> References: <50103E49-B987-4933-8D00-F99D37F674DD@refresh.dk> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:15:45 -0500 Message-Id: <1149794146.13936.4.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.463 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.064, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.463 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Setting the endpoint of the Flickr API X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:07:50 -0000 Yeah happy to. It may be a little while before I have the time to add it since it really needs some UI changes to make much sense from the user's perspective. --Larry On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 09:22 +0200, Steffen Tiedemann Christensen wrote: > Hi guys, > > I'm a member of the development team at 23 (http://www.23hq.com), and > I have a small request/suggestion in that regard. Various photo > sharing sites (i.e. our own and beta.zooomr.com) have implemented the > Flickr API and allow third party apps such as F-Spot to enable photo > export simply by changing the API endpoint. > Would it be possible to allow user to manually change the Flickr API > endpoint from http:///www.flickr.com/services/rest to something > different such as http://www.23hq.com/services/rest or http:// > beta.zooomr.com/services/rest. > > (Refer to this forum thread http://www.23hq.com/forums/message-view? > message_id=742083 for a 23 user who got F-Spot exporting to work > simply by adding a line to his /etc/hosts file -- this indicates that > no other changes are needed in order have full cross-site support > with your current code.) > > > Thanks, > Steffen Tiedemann Christensen > http://www.23hq.com > steffen@23hq.com > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list From nick@communicontent.com Thu Jun 8 15:32:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92073B0774 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32276-07 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:32:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pfepb.post.tele.dk (pfepb.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.236]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D93B3B000E for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:32:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nick.communicontent.com (unknown [87.48.90.98]) by pfepb.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 6972DA50096 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 21:31:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by nick.communicontent.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 8 Jun 2006 21:44:43 +0200 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 21:44:43 +0200 From: Nick Wilson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r802 (Linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.532 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.068, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.532 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Wilson List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:32:16 -0000 hi everyone, is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive thanks! -- Nick Wilson http://performancing.com/user/1 From gcgaf-f-spot-list@m.gmane.org Thu Jun 8 16:00:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55823B0F8F for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 16:00:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01410-10 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 16:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28B23B0730 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 16:00:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FoQgD-0003YJ-0p for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:00:33 +0200 Received: from p54a195b5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.161.149.181]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:00:33 +0200 Received: from colin by p54a195b5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:00:33 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Colin Marquardt Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 21:58:21 +0200 Organization: I'd rather call it chaos. Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54a195b5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de Mail-Copies-To: never X-Draft-From: ("gmane.comp.gnome.apps.f-spot" 764) X-message-flag: Please don't add me to your address book if you are using Outlook. Thanks, Colin. X-Jabber-UID: cmarqu (see http://www.jabber.org) X-Home-Page: http://www.marquardt-home.de X-GnuPG-Key: gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.us.pgp.net --recv-keys 5359F413 X-Fingerprint: 6D9B 01B4 F8B9 500F 3056 D74F D27F EBF5 5359 F413 Cancel-Lock: sha1:x1VlmVATagVM8AvUpOEQWvh8OcI= Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.573 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.028, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.573 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 20:00:55 -0000 Nick Wilson writes: > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive Gnome applications use gconf, so in theory, you'd be able to change this setting via e.g. gconf-editor, under apps/fspot/..., but at least my f-spot version 0.1.11 doesn't allow to configure that directory. Cheers, Colin From nick@communicontent.com Thu Jun 8 17:21:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0813D3B06A5 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:21:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06221-10 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:21:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pfepb.post.tele.dk (pfepb.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.236]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF883B0FA3 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:21:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nick.communicontent.com (0x57305a62.naenxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [87.48.90.98]) by pfepb.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 15B7EA50004 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 23:21:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: by nick.communicontent.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 8 Jun 2006 23:34:40 +0200 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 23:34:40 +0200 From: Nick Wilson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060608213440.GD28036@communicontent.com> References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r802 (Linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.524 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.060, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.524 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Wilson List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 21:21:24 -0000 * and then Colin Marquardt declared.... > Nick Wilson writes: > > > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive > > Gnome applications use gconf, so in theory, you'd be able to change > this setting via e.g. gconf-editor, under apps/fspot/..., but at > least my f-spot version 0.1.11 doesn't allow to configure that > directory. ah, i downloaded that, thanks. Shame, mine doesn't have it either. I did successfully move Photos/ and then soft link to it, so maybe i can do something like that to get it doing what i want (ive never used NFS so have no clue really on that..) thanks -- Nick Wilson http://performancing.com/user/1 From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Thu Jun 8 17:35:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410B43B0105 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:35:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07181-02 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:35:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0180B3B000E for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:35:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i12so716162wra for ; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:35:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=QdYV9h9749DmL5097FYmFdvr21aVqNaGBYXjOt9CH+QmINjPdjbCy6uERkxSYIbfCFYziiDbUZPHOI1wSzO4GixpCgsnV618OBKyFVBW/vEp+NY4lvCKoVgDMe2MLy4WgIoaaoXqs+dTu9PHeU5BD6oH/+GGXhQKrcy7XMmS58Q= Received: by 10.54.126.1 with SMTP id y1mr2189765wrc; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.26.1.18? ( [216.95.183.94]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 8sm1984091wra.2006.06.08.14.35.19; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 17:35:18 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> In-Reply-To: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.531 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.531 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 21:35:24 -0000 Nick Wilson wrote: > hi everyone, > > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive > > thanks! I sent a patch to the mailing list a while back that added a '--photoDir' option to f-spot, so you can put both the db, and any imported photos in a specific directory. My particular use case is I want to have a collection of photos directly on my laptop's hard drive, but I want to have another collection of photos on a portable hard drive, and I wanted an easy way to switch between them. I thought I had attached this to a bug, but it looks like I never did. I think the patch I previously submitted was against the last snapshot --- I'll put together a patch against head and submit it tonight... Warren From bengt@thuree.com Thu Jun 8 19:42:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8EF3B00FA for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:42:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13151-10 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:42:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EFD3B0408 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:42:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k58NfpPm015892 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 9 Jun 2006 09:41:54 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: Warren Baird In-Reply-To: <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 09:41:56 +1000 Message-Id: <1149810116.7586.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 23:42:05 -0000 On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 17:35 -0400, Warren Baird wrote: > Nick Wilson wrote: > > hi everyone, > > > > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive > > > > thanks! > > I sent a patch to the mailing list a while back that added a > '--photoDir' option to f-spot, so you can put both the db, and any > imported photos in a specific directory. > > My particular use case is I want to have a collection of photos directly > on my laptop's hard drive, but I want to have another collection of > photos on a portable hard drive, and I wanted an easy way to switch > between them. > > I thought I had attached this to a bug, but it looks like I never did. > I think the patch I previously submitted was against the last > snapshot --- I'll put together a patch against head and submit it tonight... > > Warren I put together a very much preliminary patch to let F-Spot use a global configuration file as well. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331953 Here is another bug (with a patch) to let user change Photos directory. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325166 From nick@communicontent.com Fri Jun 9 17:12:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7AB3B00FE for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21145-06 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:12:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pfepc.post.tele.dk (pfepc.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E3A3B0108 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:12:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nick.communicontent.com (0x57305a62.naenxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [87.48.90.98]) by pfepc.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id BEBF28A0032 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 23:12:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: by nick.communicontent.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 9 Jun 2006 23:26:37 +0200 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 23:26:37 +0200 From: Nick Wilson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060609212637.GA14439@communicontent.com> References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <1149810116.7586.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1149810116.7586.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r802 (Linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.496 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.032, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.496 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Wilson List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 21:12:58 -0000 * and then Bengt Thuree declared.... > > > is there a config file im missing for this app? I was trying to work out > > > how to have the defualt ~/Photos as another directory, hopefully one > > > mounted on NFS so we could keep all the family photos on one drive > > > > > > thanks! > > > > I sent a patch to the mailing list a while back that added a > > '--photoDir' option to f-spot, so you can put both the db, and any > > imported photos in a specific directory. > > > > My particular use case is I want to have a collection of photos directly > > on my laptop's hard drive, but I want to have another collection of > > photos on a portable hard drive, and I wanted an easy way to switch > > between them. > > > > I thought I had attached this to a bug, but it looks like I never did. > > I think the patch I previously submitted was against the last > > snapshot --- I'll put together a patch against head and submit it tonight... > I put together a very much preliminary patch to let F-Spot use a global > configuration file as well. > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331953 > > Here is another bug (with a patch) to let user change Photos directory. > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325166 Thanks for the help everyone. It turns out that f-spot works just fine if you swap the ~/Photos dir for a symlink, and if that symlink is pointed at an NFS mount, you can indeed keep all your photos on one drive and allow multiple boxes to access it. I've yet to set it up properly, but testing worked just great, now i just have to redo the storage box the way i want it and we're in business :) -- Nick Wilson http://performancing.com/user/1 From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 9 18:55:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F473B0370 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:55:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26392-04 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:55:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.199]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDC83B0301 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:55:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k59MthQJ017111 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:55:44 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: Nick Wilson In-Reply-To: <20060609212637.GA14439@communicontent.com> References: <20060608194443.GC28036@communicontent.com> <44889816.8030902@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <1149810116.7586.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060609212637.GA14439@communicontent.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:55:50 +1000 Message-Id: <1149893750.7586.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.457 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.457 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Is there a config file? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 22:55:51 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 23:26 +0200, Nick Wilson wrote: > It turns out that f-spot works just fine if you swap the ~/Photos dir > for a symlink, and if that symlink is pointed at an NFS mount, you can > indeed keep all your photos on one drive and allow multiple boxes to > access it. > > I've yet to set it up properly, but testing worked just great, now i > just have to redo the storage box the way i want it and we're in > business :) > Are you using the latest CVS? I am using the latest CVS, and have my home directory on an NFS mount. F-Spot will not enable the Edit icons in Edit view due to this. See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344403 /Bengt From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 9 21:21:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0243B028B for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:21:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00418-01 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:21:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.196]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADD53B00D0 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:21:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5A1LDsA016968 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:21:13 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:21:13 +1000 Message-Id: <1149902473.7586.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Subject: SendEmail in MainWindow? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:21:17 -0000 Hi Seems like part of the resize photos for emails are in the MainWindow.cs, but the SendMail.cs file is missing. > $ grep SendEmail MainWindow.cs > new FSpot.SendEmail (new FSpot.PhotoArray (SelectedPhotos ())); Perhaps introduced when reverting MainWindow? /bengt From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 9 22:28:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7EC3B0161 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 22:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03436-09 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 22:28:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4BE3B01D0 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 22:28:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5A2SPJC003635 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:28:25 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list In-Reply-To: <1149902473.7586.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1149902473.7586.84.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:28:26 +1000 Message-Id: <1149906507.7586.87.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: SendEmail in MainWindow? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:28:31 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 11:21 +1000, Bengt Thuree wrote: > Seems like part of the resize photos for emails are in the > MainWindow.cs, but the SendMail.cs file is missing. > > $ grep SendEmail MainWindow.cs > > new FSpot.SendEmail (new FSpot.PhotoArray (SelectedPhotos ())); > > Perhaps introduced when reverting MainWindow? Or more likely by someone called murphy at my place :( After deleting all, and checkout a new version of F-Spot it worked fine. /Bengt From jaq@spacepants.org Sat Jun 10 01:33:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964973B028B for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:33:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10716-06 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx01.anchor.net.au (mx01.anchor.net.au [202.4.234.253]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655CD3B0169 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dawn.casa (203-166-247-250.dyn.iinet.net.au [203.166.247.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.anchor.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4681C6F9 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:33:08 +1000 (EST) Received: by dawn.casa (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CE0502B0BA7; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:34:10 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:34:10 +1000 From: Jamie Wilkinson To: f-spot-list Message-ID: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailer: beefmail v0.0 X-No-CC: Please respect the setting of my Mail-Followup-To header User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.034 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_WHOIS_BOGONS=2.43] X-Spam-Score: -0.034 X-Spam-Level: Subject: building with ccache X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:33:11 -0000 Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs? Now I've got a few branches of f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing. From maxima.mlist@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 05:40:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249773B0130 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:40:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23000-07 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:40:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38543B044D for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:40:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1054485pyd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:40:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=sb9Yr5B0RGgit+ST7bP1rNs6hHp/T7vcSqmIxQ/NTXJPbrG1zCDAY1NK8MwDxh9FH9XPLsH6UoNggW5QEXMCi/wPjIBSIfRvsQrTTTSfBOThVYedWBF2Bmg3bxLiiu/Sl7uW2rOcynaZ6buF79sPkJaCh2PZZWq2Hpy7TXx49fA= Received: by 10.35.91.15 with SMTP id t15mr934583pyl; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from debussy.harmony ( [203.206.244.79]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k53sm1789689pyd.2006.06.10.02.40.50; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:40:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Arif Lukito To: Jamie Wilkinson In-Reply-To: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> References: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-RHtnQ5hPXSxZloA4yo5B" Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:40:47 +1000 Message-Id: <1149932447.18989.0.camel@debussy.harmony> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.035 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_WHOIS_BOGONS=2.43, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.035 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list Subject: Re: building with ccache X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:40:56 -0000 --=-RHtnQ5hPXSxZloA4yo5B Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 15:34 +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs? Now I've got a few branches of > f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the > build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing > obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing. Isn't that ccache is only for C and C++ ? -- Arif Lukito --=-RHtnQ5hPXSxZloA4yo5B Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 15:34 +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: 
Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs?  Now I've got a few branches of
f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the
build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing
obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing.
Isn't that ccache is only for C and C++ ?


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Arif Lukito <maxima.mlist@gmail.com>
--=-RHtnQ5hPXSxZloA4yo5B-- From m.j.hutchinson@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 09:09:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6593B04A6 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:09:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03255-08 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:09:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.207]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDF93B0479 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:09:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i30so764988wxd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 06:09:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Qut/7C/0Ntt7OY7KFW+icHgUMPZ9U4euqqzUsT7/65llNw6Z0ScOU46mU02+bDFt4NXIx/Zv8K3HO0y3V6O9uq/t5NAmFvbZvnrWI+O2IIcjo1K75JHUAbt39s1OUkEr/MqrLqc7bQ0lf7vcUPBHu+u11IMS+rJdN1IdqEpQXv0= Received: by 10.70.8.2 with SMTP id 2mr4547431wxh; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 06:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.124.9 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 06:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 14:09:42 +0100 From: "Michael Hutchinson" To: f-spot-list In-Reply-To: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.259 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.341, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.259 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: building with ccache X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:09:45 -0000 On 6/10/06, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs? Now I've got a few branches of > f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the > build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing > obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing. Won't work with mcs. Even it it did, mcs is many times faster than gcc, so you wouldn't see much of a difference. You could maybe put it in front of the C parts of f-spot. Michael From drberg1000@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 11:02:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2CF3B0237 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10145-05 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:02:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F2D3B0227 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:02:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1106948pyd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:02:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uqi4FAHLtjox6py+LI4LzOTRwIwtRp2JR//+QHuhAnla3qhZ1fcJZOqEj7b5q2Zz/7fd7lqn67ouLjvfEYbqv2grbuxO5p2oqNIo1Qr9TEMN5/SILmWCI5Bv4s3Fr+YMXArE+woYFue2mfWkMYbaslLZ/cDcuS1fdn6hWtd4oZ4= Received: by 10.35.46.6 with SMTP id y6mr3646121pyj; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.82.13 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 10:02:00 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20060608055242.GC21445@spacepants.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> <20060608055242.GC21445@spacepants.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.666 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.624, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.666 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:02:07 -0000 On 6/8/06, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > This one time, at band camp, David Berg wrote: > >On 6/7/06, Larry Ewing wrote: > >>On the flickr site turn on the auto rotate option, that will let them > >>display the way you expect there. F-Spot rotates jpegs by changing the > > > >Hmmmm..... An f-spot rotated image does not display as rotated on > >flickr weather I use their "auto rotate" or not. Using their online > >uploading tool instead of f-spot's also doesn't make a difference. > > > >Again, am I missing something? > > I noticed a comment in the FlickrRemote.cs file yesterday that says > something along the lines of "FIXME: flickr needs rotation", so I suspect > that the orientation data could be included in the file upload. I don't know how f-spot is organized so I could be wrong but I don't think its a problem with any code specific to flickr. I remember this morning that my camera would rotate images by adjusting exif as well and tried it using that to rotate instead of f-spot. When I uploaded a camera-rotated-image flickr auto-rotated it. I uploaded the image both using the web interface and f-spot and both methods worked fine. When I ran exif on an image I had rotated using f-spot and compared it to this one I found that the camera-rotated-image had these entries for Orientation: dberg@dale:~/Photos/2006/6/10$ exif DSC02341.JPG | grep Orientation Orientation |right - top Orientation |right - top Where as the image rotated in f-spot had these entries: dberg@dale:~/Photos/2006/6/10$ exif DSC02342.JPG | grep Orientation Orientation |right - top Orientation |top - left Apparently flickr looks at both or just the second and is either confused by the mismatched info or decides it doesn't need to be rotated. Should I file a bug for this? --Dave > > I've been playing around in there so if I find out what's going on with that > I'll submit a patch. No guarantees though ;-) > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From bengt@thuree.com Sat Jun 10 11:12:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C3A3B028F for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:12:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10802-09 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:12:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FCF3B0187 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5AFCQfe005287 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 01:12:27 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: David Berg In-Reply-To: References: <1149703813.3587.110.camel@blue.site> <20060608055242.GC21445@spacepants.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 01:12:36 +1000 Message-Id: <1149952357.7586.101.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Image rotations X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:12:35 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 10:02 -0500, David Berg wrote: > > Should I file a bug for this? > Please do, since that is the sure way to ensure nothing gets lost during the way.... :) Good finding :) /Bengt From tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie Sat Jun 10 11:46:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADA33B01D7 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:46:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12287-04 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:46:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alfred.murphy.ie (unknown [86.43.71.228]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944AA3B0227 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alfred.murphy.ie (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alfred.murphy.ie (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5AFkbvD011987 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:46:37 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by alfred.murphy.ie (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k5AFka96011984 for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:46:36 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: alfred.murphy.ie: tim set sender to tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie using -f From: Timothy Murphy Organization: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:46:35 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200606101646.36200.tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.579 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.020, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.579 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Is f-spot what I want? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:46:57 -0000 I'm afraid it's not clear to me exactly what f-spot does (or how one gets it to do whatever that is). Basically, I have a few folders containing JPEGs, maybe 300 in all, and I want to offer them on my web-site. Can I use f-spot to create a web photo gallery? If so, what commands exactly should I give? I looked at the User Guide, but I'm afraid I didn't learn much from it. Is there a simple tutorial or howto somewhere? Any suggestions or advice gratefully received. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland From ken@vandine.org Sat Jun 10 11:58:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7623B02AC for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12471-07 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (unknown [24.25.9.100]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08923B0305 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (cpe-071-065-240-185.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.240.185]) by ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5AFwiTS025959; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken VanDine To: tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie In-Reply-To: <200606101646.36200.tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie> References: <200606101646.36200.tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:58:52 -0400 Message-Id: <1149955132.5110.2.camel@foobar> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.082 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.517, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.082 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Is f-spot what I want? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:58:55 -0000 You can export them to create a web gallery. http://f-spot.org/User_Guide/Share#Generate_a_Website_Gallery F-Spot is a tool for managing your library of photos. Part of that management is being able to export the photos you select and resize for the web. There are several methods for doing so, check that link out and see if it does what you want. Enjoy f-spot! --Ken On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 16:46 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I'm afraid it's not clear to me exactly what f-spot does > (or how one gets it to do whatever that is). > > Basically, I have a few folders containing JPEGs, > maybe 300 in all, > and I want to offer them on my web-site. > Can I use f-spot to create a web photo gallery? > If so, what commands exactly should I give? > > I looked at the User Guide, > but I'm afraid I didn't learn much from it. > > Is there a simple tutorial or howto somewhere? > Any suggestions or advice gratefully received. > From qub333@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 12:16:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6087A3B02AC for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:16:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13756-02 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:16:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.199]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540C63B0538 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:14:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 9so1255881nzo for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:14:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=GB86vqRKdEeOzi28pIfkBAsCyEH7ygXq9FBpSFrMwCpGU6lxZUMPDBJhYx5g5YTinsWlqL59dAJWwdJqJoJbOhf9fiPxNoMKhYYkzc9lOl5ipX4+DqmgKlnDM+TEjeaczi9JI6A2eeL+ep5nKucozR+GdJKb1PFqeiwjeQiybKs= Received: by 10.36.224.49 with SMTP id w49mr3904026nzg; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.4 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <88d636060606100914y2a85732fk46a51842dc2aa41a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:14:33 -0400 From: "Kevin Kubasik" Sender: qub333@gmail.com To: "Mark A. Bell" In-Reply-To: <20060608091250.75401.qmail@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060608091250.75401.qmail@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8e590672541337ac X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.548 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.052, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.548 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: problem compiling on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:16:16 -0000 Try the following, just to be sure sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get build-dep f-spot ./configure --prefix=/usr //becasue you are on an debian based system, you need to use the /use prefix -Kevin Kubasik On 6/8/06, Mark A. Bell wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to compile the f-spot-0.1.11 release on Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper. > > I used 'apt-get build-dep f-spot' to download dependencies. > I downloaded the f-spot-0.1.11.tar.bz2 archive. > > ./configure fails at the following: > > checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate > appending configuration tag "F77" to libtool > checking what warning flags to pass to the C compiler... -Wall > -Wmissing-prototypes > checking what language compliance flags to pass to the C compiler... > checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config > checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.0... yes (version 2.10.3) > checking for mono... /usr/bin/mono > checking for mcs... /usr/bin/mcs > checking for mono.pc... found > checking for Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll... configure: error: missing > required mono DLL: Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll > > However, > > find / -iname 'Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll' > > Gives: > > /usr/lib/mono/gac/Mono.Data.SqliteClient/2.0.0.0__0738eb9f132ed756/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll > /usr/lib/mono/2.0/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll > > Is my configure script looking for the file in the wrong place? > Suggestions gratefully received. > > - mark > > > > /f-spot-0.1.11 > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > -- Cheers, Kevin Kubasik http://kubasik.net/blog From m487396@rocketmail.com Sat Jun 10 15:42:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE34C3B0494 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:42:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23801-01 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:42:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.92]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E58ED3B050D for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73928 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jun 2006 19:42:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rocketmail.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=WrghfpbdBeyioC5I4vqJtyfXtA3g1ScLkKPv/o2ndn4pdLXa6UjyIZYeoC6OMSDLBGOnz6hAjDM9YhK+3ZpoCAJTwf5peTQwKl63oBnXOTvEKtj7zUiJfzWYVN8gihjIdCqulPiIaBoZVwC8iNpWG0IIet0bV9JfH9rESR2phWQ= ; Message-ID: <20060610194218.73926.qmail@web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [211.31.121.246] by web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:42:18 EST Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:42:18 +1000 (EST) From: "Mark A. Bell" To: f-spot-list In-Reply-To: <88d636060606100914y2a85732fk46a51842dc2aa41a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.577 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.577 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: problem compiling on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:42:22 -0000 --- Kevin Kubasik wrote: > Try the following, just to be sure > > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get build-dep f-spot > ./configure --prefix=/usr //becasue you are on an debian based > system, > you need to use the /use prefix > > -Kevin Kubasik Thanks kindly for your help, Kevin. I don't have much experience compiling packages from source. The problem was that I had mono-classlib-2.0, but I needed mono-classlib-1.0 instead. After fixing this, and a good deal of other packages, I got Flickr to configure and compile. I am most happy - thanks to all the Flickr developers. Why anyone would want to run Picassa on Linux is a mystery to me. - mark sydney, australia http://www.flickr.com/photos/m487396 Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com From qub333@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 22:16:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CA13B0456 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:16:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04252-07 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:16:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6EC3B0313 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:16:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i30so830058wxd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:15:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=jW8efGCqBx8QziPZrY6SDT9f2nHLSZQqv3oyGiR53yaYaIgI6OutbmzK0Og4QEdj7in+M37aSaWfRB5NCjCbjeprFMMzyCEWC+Rjd35/QI1+JRk2LwcAECH185L6wPxNytSmiwPm2vSFONosqEz5s2xbQg3GtdjbWM5ftfxSocg= Received: by 10.70.10.2 with SMTP id 2mr5071104wxj; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.108? ( [69.140.109.194]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h9sm4269697wxd.2006.06.10.19.15.33; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <448B7CC4.7020902@kubasik.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:15:32 -0400 From: Kevin Kubasik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060522) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=43337DF4; url=http://kubasik.net/KevinKubasik.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Kevin Kubasik X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.16 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.440, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.16 X-Spam-Level: Subject: F-spot and pkg-config X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:16:40 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Does f-spot install a pkg-config .pc file? I can't seem to find one, but I am working on some deeper integration between beagle and f-spot, and I need beagle to be able to check at compile time if f-spot is installed, and what version. A simple f-spot --version | awk {print $3} does work as a hack, but a more permanent/ professional solution would be nice. - -- Cheers, Kevin Kubasik 240-838-6616 http://kubasik.net/blog -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBRIt8xP3xZFNDM330AQjuFg/+Nwk8Yd14Toy+9NUK2OWpaCdyCcDwLVUf MchviVqlSx1dsHjQBFUczlHmmbHIjhivAp+p69rBlGPxOzUebTSUA50Sf1i+dafc cGUuimjBhd8LXehpHyEoKRdb/adrMcylhqtmOC52UnxmewKQ/oOd7c4Vdhqy/8+I n9HQuqUIS0FVQ6obRcLNRF+jz4PVInRyfOaqHiHD6g/wDUtgX5pRNdkGiqiC2J4F NbMytA2NJafwqCdJFFORUQ7O+3rSl0R0e7Ee9PodfeuNQNNm93+yeU+cOYNxkiPL i8seVQN2dhdjiGA+2ifYNna3yeG62q8hr/513j03JZUdjrZtfcixc0j+VeePpSWA Hy2M2qrNbZCRtRVkqrwmsMjzgn6F50bboGa3uhlSHWJ9+Jo1JNbU7pdu+DSyxqYJ NXv9eQBwMBPcwsoAua8fbgJsVD2/BeS8atRXcUUQgtkv8FPu5+WyD4+L22HGWLzX Urymjs4+iHKsZP4xt8FHTYpdaXch6YX+X5LDdLzkLd9RtR98C8pAEbxB6V11jisQ qnImNe42UHLGNz69mbIPWRX3AgruVlrrENfwSPTegAfAI3X0+9Yk+ZT1nGlaWsYO pN/Bs1d1adyM2zMxrMJMN6SfveJHHsm4pzNg8tNJEwv41tEjxLeK4JR3GBrqh4NY 8ua7ZQ20iWg= =728w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jaq@spacepants.org Sat Jun 10 22:23:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580633B0313 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:23:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04933-03 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx01.anchor.net.au (mx01.anchor.net.au [202.4.234.253]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A904D3B030D for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dawn.casa (203-166-247-250.dyn.iinet.net.au [203.166.247.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.anchor.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405A01D14A for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:21:52 +1000 (EST) Received: by dawn.casa (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EFE2A2B0BA8; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:22:55 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:22:55 +1000 From: Jamie Wilkinson To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20060611022255.GB4953@spacepants.org> Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org References: <20060610053410.GA31845@spacepants.org> <1149932447.18989.0.camel@debussy.harmony> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1149932447.18989.0.camel@debussy.harmony> X-Mailer: beefmail v0.0 X-No-CC: Please respect the setting of my Mail-Followup-To header User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.034 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_WHOIS_BOGONS=2.43] X-Spam-Score: -0.034 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: building with ccache X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:23:22 -0000 This one time, at band camp, Arif Lukito wrote: >On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 15:34 +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > >> Has anyone used ccache in front of mcs? Now I've got a few branches of >> f-spot sitting around, I'd like to take advantage of ccache to speed up the >> build time of new code, and so far my poke around google brings nothing >> obvious to put in configure arguments to do the right thing. > >Isn't that ccache is only for C and C++ ? I've never used it before, that's why I was asking ;-) From qub333@gmail.com Sat Jun 10 22:28:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900C43B04F1 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:28:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04593-08 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:28:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DE63B0456 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:28:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i30so830843wxd for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:27:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=B96MHIhFWoOBQWWZ+acTxmyJ+nAwZUGEsEq9mQ6aUjQuwLdTnsG/mkXrqg5kCiKLA/hj+kUM+oSRmYZO61aep48FtXl+JKEGTK47ev1Tp0RlPubvzCl3p+zqpOXq0ba3prazN3D+T5OwsdeQg4eIxJo2oIEH1aNh5C3Ia0sIYwI= Received: by 10.70.26.1 with SMTP id 1mr5072738wxz; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.108? ( [69.140.109.194]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h17sm4376967wxd.2006.06.10.19.27.46; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <448B7FA2.5020908@kubasik.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:27:46 -0400 From: Kevin Kubasik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060522) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Kubasik References: <448B7CC4.7020902@kubasik.net> In-Reply-To: <448B7CC4.7020902@kubasik.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=43337DF4; url=http://kubasik.net/KevinKubasik.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Kevin Kubasik X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.199 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.401, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.199 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot and pkg-config X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:28:41 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Ok, I filed this as bug #344534 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344534 Kevin Kubasik wrote: > Does f-spot install a pkg-config .pc file? I can't seem to find one, but > I am working on some deeper integration between beagle and f-spot, and I > need beagle to be able to check at compile time if f-spot is installed, > and what version. A simple > f-spot --version | awk {print $3} > does work as a hack, but a more permanent/ professional solution would > be nice. > > - -- Cheers, Kevin Kubasik 240-838-6616 http://kubasik.net/blog -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBRIt/of3xZFNDM330AQjFhg/+M+p26fVL8cXYQVpsloho71P2Ode6yIM7 X/tcHynd/WXivm8phZMJpgFpSdsr9rUmGuLc2WCvB07K217cBo3ESV0YEDvYvoeu 0P2dCKkmu9z9sKcpJsCCCrOa/nALIoTSNFPhuxE6bcy7dPVykpLbuqg160+LGyX5 TpCnayaxO4CNZu52TrctsqMF6ana7OFhJ5zft3FE3jQ/hy41VK+2ltMn5wHQ2fNe 4BTPlvzNhFlorCbY4P5snZnA2Jss3Xg3pzugq/O990BIaoOFCRThDly+hlEYrvlm hV25rue/rtsM/1A7vH3CHM8JMnC5nJYkky3b4j6RtPoekQf0zj09gFfzUhCmCMu6 0nm9DSNLjU6fVhc4M6ZFDBz1iO/eS7Z29s9jSAt1Kk5Wkqw+bNX8BUgaXuv1NE8l wr1qWjR+gfNys8UyFcEduI0bIGfYVJCq/fwR0LJU3yAJimoLlgKgPUFBZHVxL1+9 4cSJa9NBxX4/Kva75k2WHBEmSvf/2QlWrHJEYygIlSD2x+4Gg67/X1xC+7E907YU Yw8aYDHnRKx4JFVcwhz9zY6nwaEQiT+kyu4ZOGq/4B8qVdbfknajdjKDRaEspP/Y RhhG4BcPPz3tYO63CwsT39HFfA6FXj6X7Zl6ws7s0ZB5sy5hzUUwKhWofFVT8lNx MpstHJqaSlA= =dX62 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jfc001@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 05:30:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C2D3B0095 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00548-02 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BDB3B039F for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1237268pyd for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:29:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=eVJZishWuh/BkzRmlhCsCcTL848UFOONhi6OPnFccj0y6OY/91p7FB7EG1PMjqpzikeEsROOCVXl7vjnHzCIun6ogcj2fo7U+HMc/V9oXEjFzyyWf+Ddx3GgmilNVktcmjWgx/Rj/dyyt6Z50vEZm0iclpHbWyAQwtTvoru1XGA= Received: by 10.35.57.5 with SMTP id j5mr131414pyk; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.20.7 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:29:15 -0600 From: "James Carroll" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_6231_12266151.1150018155717" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.238 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.052, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP=0.175, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.238 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 09:30:20 -0000 ------=_Part_6231_12266151.1150018155717 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6232_32330217.1150018155717" ------=_Part_6232_32330217.1150018155717 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I upgraded from Ubuntu Breezy (5.10) to Dapper (6.06), but I am still not able to run f-spot. I am able to successfully compile the latest CVS version by following the How to Build instructions, (Thanks, Bengtt!), but I get the following when trying to run f-spot, either the stable version through the package manager or the latest CVS. I have attached the full error output, both for the stable version and the CVS snapshot. The output of the two is slightly different. ** (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe:2636): WARNING **: The > following assembly referenced from /home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f- > spot.exe could not be loaded: > Assembly: gnome-sharp (assemblyref_index=9) > Version: 2.8.0.0 > Public Key: 35e10195dab3c99f > The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in > the MONO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing > assembly (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot). > > > ================================================================= > Got a SIGSEGV while executing native code. This usually indicates > a fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries > used by your application. > ================================================================= > I have looked for the variable MONO_PATH isn't set, at least not in bash. Thank you so much for the help! James Carroll ------=_Part_6232_32330217.1150018155717 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I upgraded from Ubuntu Breezy (5.10) to Dapper (6.06), but I am still not able to run f-spot.  I am able to successfully compile the latest CVS version by following the How to Build instructions, (Thanks, Bengtt!), but I get the following when trying to run f-spot, either the stable version through the package manager or the latest CVS. I have attached the full error output, both for the stable version and the CVS snapshot. The output of the two is slightly different.

** (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f- spot.exe:2636): WARNING **: The following assembly referenced from /home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe could not be loaded:
     Assembly:   gnome-sharp    (assemblyref_index=9)
     Version:    2.8.0.0
     Public Key: 35e10195dab3c99f
The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in the MONO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing assembly (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot).


=================================================================
Got a SIGSEGV while executing native code. This usually indicates
a fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries
used by your application.
=================================================================

I have looked for the variable MONO_PATH isn't set, at least not in bash.

Thank you so much for the help!
James Carroll


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Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:14:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03055-01 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:14:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.166]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C2F3B0095 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:14:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5BADUcu001565 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:13:31 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: James Carroll In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:13:41 +1000 Message-Id: <1150020822.5937.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:14:57 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 03:29 -0600, James Carroll wrote: > I upgraded from Ubuntu Breezy (5.10) to Dapper (6.06), but I am still > not able to run f-spot. I am able to successfully compile the latest > CVS version by following the How to Build instructions, (Thanks, > Bengtt!), Your'e welcome :) > but I get the following when trying to run f-spot, either the stable > version through the package manager or the latest CVS. I have attached > the full error output, both for the stable version and the CVS > snapshot. The output of the two is slightly different. > > ** (/home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f- spot.exe:2636): > WARNING **: The following assembly referenced > from /home/james/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe could > not Have you done the "make install" ? F-Spot will look for some libraries in the /home/james/unstable/f-spot directory even if you run the uninstalled version. /Bengt From jfc001@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 06:42:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178CE3B03C2 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:42:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04975-03 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:42:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5553B00CB for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:42:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1245373pyd for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:40:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=iYpd1sL8Oo9JSa8vJR6yHyXLIC8hlhbaYM2LBWW0l4L7iQygBq/7qiIhkedClZsd9Vv588Ywofw09jDe79xRLkpBE9vFm/7gsryKOSmkdGBSiiA/+Dy9rntQeX3th4hJcVw81+6XWIKh+obn1m8uEvwRWHSHCjIeThTmiktRRtE= Received: by 10.35.109.2 with SMTP id l2mr2349713pym; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.20.7 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 04:40:04 -0600 From: "James Carroll" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6688_26513123.1150022404549" References: <1150020822.5937.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.331 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.134, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.331 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:42:35 -0000 ------=_Part_6688_26513123.1150022404549 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 6/11/06, Bengt Thuree wrote: > Have you done the "make install" ? Yes. But I wasn't sure from which directory to run it. From your directions, I don't think it's clear if I should be in ~/development/f-spot/f-spot/src or ~/development/f-spot/f-spot/ Either way, I ran it in both (I assume the Makefile in the parent directory calls the Makefile in the subdirectory) and I still get the same error. Do I need to run it as root (with sudo)? F-Spot will look for some libraries in the /home/james/unstable/f-spot > directory even if you run the uninstalled version. What is the "uninstalled version"? To me, it seems impossible to run a program that's not installed on your computer. Is this a common term when working with projects under development, in which you might have one version "installed" and other versions in various directories, that aren't "installed"? /Bengt James ------=_Part_6688_26513123.1150022404549 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 6/11/06, Bengt Thuree <bengt@thuree.com > wrote:
Have you done the "make install" ?

Yes. But I wasn't sure from which directory to run it.  From your directions, I don't think it's clear if I should be in
~/development/f-spot/f-spot/src
or
~/development/f-spot/f-spot/

Either way, I ran it in both (I assume the Makefile in the parent directory calls the Makefile in the subdirectory) and I still get the same error.  Do I need to run it as root (with sudo)?

F-Spot will look for some libraries in the /home/james/unstable/f-spot
directory even if you run the uninstalled version.

What is the "uninstalled version"?  To me, it seems impossible to run a program that's not installed on your computer.  Is this a common term when working with projects under development, in which you might have one version "installed" and other versions in various directories, that aren't "installed"?

/Bengt
 
James

------=_Part_6688_26513123.1150022404549-- From janne.ojaniemi@nbl.fi Sun Jun 11 07:32:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387523B063F for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06916-03 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:32:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.nblnetworks.fi (smtp2.nblnetworks.fi [217.30.182.231]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339503B0640 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:32:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (xdsl-176-84.nblnetworks.fi [217.30.176.84]) by smtp2.nblnetworks.fi (8.13.1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k5BBXu9M021198 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:33:57 +0300 From: Janne Ojaniemi To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:31:38 +0300 Message-Id: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 11:32:06 -0000 What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs are unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, F-Spot constantly fights against me. So I have a bunch of photos on my computer. They are NOT in my home-folder, but rather in /multimedia/pics. This way they are accessible to my wife as well. And in that directory, they are also divided among different folders, named after the subject. This way I can browse the pictures in filemanager as well, should the need arise. Sounds simple enough? Yes it does. But why is this setup so difficult for F-Spot to handle? I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, select "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to photos-folder", and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. After the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is it? Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to select "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to find out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me where those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are located in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the date of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be in /multimedia/pics/ I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the Photos-folder. Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same set of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I edit any of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. I just re-tried the import, after I deleted the photos-folder from my home. And again it copied the files to my home. I then deleted the photos-folder again, and the thumbnails were still visible in F-Spot, but full-size photos were not. Why can't I do something as simple as this: Tell F-spot to import photos from certain folder and NOT copy the files ANYWHERE. Just import the photos, but leave the actual files where they are! IIRC I ONCE managed to make F-spot really use the /multimedia/pics, but even then, if I imported pics from my camera, F-Spot always imported them to /home/photos. So my pictures were split among two locations, when I really want to have all my pics in one location. Why is this so hard? It feels like that F-Spot has certain way of working, and it wont budge from that way. And I would have to adjust my way of working to suit F-Spot. And we are not talking about anything fundamental here, we are talking about the location where the pictures are stored! From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 11 08:55:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1333B00E2 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:55:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09811-06 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:55:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B55F3B00BB for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:55:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5BCsXfR007188 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:54:33 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: James Carroll In-Reply-To: References: <1150020822.5937.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:54:40 +1000 Message-Id: <1150030480.5937.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:55:12 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 04:40 -0600, James Carroll wrote: > On 6/11/06, Bengt Thuree wrote: > > Have you done the "make install" ? > > Yes. But I wasn't sure from which directory to run it. From your > directions, I don't think it's clear if I should be in > ~/development/f-spot/f-spot/src > or > ~/development/f-spot/f-spot/ Ok, I updated the instructions a bit. You should do the "make all", "make install", or "make all install" from the f-spot directory. Not the src directory. > > Either way, I ran it in both (I assume the Makefile in the parent > directory calls the Makefile in the subdirectory) and I still get the > same error. Do I need to run it as root (with sudo)? No need to run it as root (sudo), since you specified a target directory which is writable by your user. > > > F-Spot will look for some libraries in > the /home/james/unstable/f-spot > directory even if you run the uninstalled version. > > What is the "uninstalled version"? To me, it seems impossible to run > a program that's not installed on your computer. Is this a common > term when working with projects under development, in which you might > have one version "installed" and other versions in various > directories, that aren't "installed"? F-Spot can be run after you have done a "make all", by changing directory to src, and then give the command "./f-spot --uninstalled" But it will need some library files which it tries to find from the installation directory, so you will have to have done at least one "make install" My target directory's lib files are the following: > > ls /opt/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/ > FlickrNet.dll libfspoteog.so libfspotjpegtran.so.0 libgphoto2-sharp.dll > f-spot.exe libfspoteog.so.0 libfspotjpegtran.so.0.0.0 libgphoto2-sharp.dll.config > f-spot.exe.config libfspoteog.so.0.0.0 libfspot.la SemWeb.dll > libfspot.a libfspotjpegtran.a libfspot.so > libfspoteog.a libfspotjpegtran.la libfspot.so.0 > libfspoteog.la libfspotjpegtran.so libfspot.so.0.0.0 Can you perhaps send the console commands and output when you try and run the CVS version? (including how you start f-spot) /Bengt From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 13:12:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E953B01E3 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:12:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23016-08 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2553B01AA for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:12:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so795377nfc for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:11:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=jmJsArqQVOiw7tOxqiMXvx0gwSNK42zV+zrK/jnf39AUtWZdTMvDsGoDqhZZXYC9RQphNlZ+iPRtUJ8WZUyJ66FiB8HiuD766aExGbt5I6ub/JCTLSXUYjS6Rg5oUp5D0xb0GHDRMCF9+d66cy3gikrM1pNcEhTW5ELUZEQVZzU= Received: by 10.48.213.1 with SMTP id l1mr4142637nfg; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:11:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C0A840.access.telenet.be ( [84.192.168.64]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10sm5595991nfb.2006.06.11.10.11.40; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:11:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:11:39 +0200 Message-Id: <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.263 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.337, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.263 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 17:12:24 -0000 Hi Janne, On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 14:31 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs are > unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, F-Spot > constantly fights against me. > > So I have a bunch of photos on my computer. They are NOT in my > home-folder, but rather in /multimedia/pics. This way they are > accessible to my wife as well. And in that directory, they are also > divided among different folders, named after the subject. This way I can > browse the pictures in filemanager as well, should the need arise. > Sounds simple enough? Yes it does. But why is this setup so difficult > for F-Spot to handle? > > I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the > import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, select > "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to photos-folder", > and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. After > the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is it? > Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem > (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to select > "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to find > out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me where > those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are located > in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the date > of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be > in /multimedia/pics/ > > I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the Photos-folder. > Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same set > of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I edit any > of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my > home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. > > I just re-tried the import, after I deleted the photos-folder from my > home. And again it copied the files to my home. I then deleted the > photos-folder again, and the thumbnails were still visible in F-Spot, > but full-size photos were not. > > Why can't I do something as simple as this: Tell F-spot to import photos > from certain folder and NOT copy the files ANYWHERE. Just import the > photos, but leave the actual files where they are! > > IIRC I ONCE managed to make F-spot really use the /multimedia/pics, but > even then, if I imported pics from my camera, F-Spot always imported > them to /home/photos. So my pictures were split among two locations, > when I really want to have all my pics in one location. > > Why is this so hard? It feels like that F-Spot has certain way of > working, and it wont budge from that way. And I would have to adjust my > way of working to suit F-Spot. And we are not talking about anything > fundamental here, we are talking about the location where the pictures > are stored! Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: 1. count to ten, think of the possibility that you might have bumped into a bug 2. ask someone on irc, or on the mailing list to see if they could reproduce the behaviour 3. file a bug in bugzilla.gnome.org so people could take care of it I think that all this negative energy isn't going to get you anywhere. Regards, Thomas From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 16:19:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751723B0159 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:19:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32157-09 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:19:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930A63B00CA for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:19:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so805830nfe for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:18:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=d8C1FvMddnGIX2+QzDT+AsXHSpw4RGo8zrMlVNqTE4lLcGwFNq6RS3tx6HYRWazxU5bj6kGIFubTj+/wRfVnG/EVzQyd5CFCjdTDK8vpBHa1a0ABmt/ICj237PdEomTrpGS8nlfKlvc4TiBAncyT6PSP2cHh4FlZZ4JDjRpVT7U= Received: by 10.48.213.11 with SMTP id l11mr4233187nfg; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C0A840.access.telenet.be ( [84.192.168.64]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x1sm5709776nfb.2006.06.11.12.49.38; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:49:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 21:49:37 +0200 Message-Id: <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.323 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.277, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.323 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:19:49 -0000 Hi Janne, On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 19:11 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long > > rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: > > I apologize for my negativity. I really do. I had just spent quite a bit > of time importing pictures, only to find out that I had bunch of photos > in place where I did not want them. So I was quite pissed off when I > wrote my initial message. > I understand you were pissed off, but admit you were a bit hard ;-) > > 2. ask someone on irc, or on the mailing list to see if they could > > reproduce the behaviour > > Well, I thought that I just described my problem. > Yeah, you _kind of_ described your problem, but you left out a lot of details: * what version of f-spot are you running? * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your miserable state :-p What I suggest you do is the following: * remove the f-spot sqlite db, it's ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db * re-start f-spot, perform the import again but uncheck the "copy" checkbox _before_ you select a folder to import from * open the f-spot database by executing $sqlite ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db * perform a select * from photos go and look at the paths that appear in the output: do they point to your original directory or to the local ~/Photos dir? Regards, Thomas From m487396@rocketmail.com Sun Jun 11 16:24:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB4E3B0422 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:24:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32591-08 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.83]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA3033B026B for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:24:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23382 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jun 2006 20:23:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rocketmail.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZtGEKjbe8SmlcRnL6JNb8V7bOO7XXZ2d1xVZDU1DEL+EzwT1v85Mi/nMmPonGIL+rfPO7KjBC9fPSOTIeThLPgpBcVYIjRmVoLjnlJ26QUCuI7ftsF7QuruflaRPhHAz/dYYGsnljFS7BBMjNKJHzMuBoW51Nd/qBbRWHUKFydE= ; Message-ID: <20060611202351.23380.qmail@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [211.31.121.246] by web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 06:23:51 EST Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 06:23:51 +1000 (EST) From: "Mark A. Bell" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.487 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.088, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.487 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:24:41 -0000 Hi Janne, I don't know enough about f-spot to configure it correctly for you, but it sounds like gthumb would do the kind of things you want. gthumb http://gthumb.sourceforge.net/features.html regards, - mark sydney, australia http://www.flickr.com/photos/m487396 Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 14:31 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs > are > > unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, > F-Spot > > constantly fights against me. > > > > So I have a bunch of photos on my computer. They are NOT in my > > home-folder, but rather in /multimedia/pics. This way they are > > accessible to my wife as well. And in that directory, they are also > > divided among different folders, named after the subject. This way > I can > > browse the pictures in filemanager as well, should the need arise. > > Sounds simple enough? Yes it does. But why is this setup so > difficult > > for F-Spot to handle? > > > > I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the > > import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, > select > > "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to > photos-folder", > > and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. > After > > the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is > it? > > Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem > > (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to > select > > "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to > find > > out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me > where > > those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are > located > > in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the > date > > of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be > > in /multimedia/pics/ > > > > I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the > Photos-folder. > > Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same > set > > of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I > edit any > > of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my > > home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. > > > > I just re-tried the import, after I deleted the photos-folder from > my > > home. And again it copied the files to my home. I then deleted the > > photos-folder again, and the thumbnails were still visible in > F-Spot, > > but full-size photos were not. > > > > Why can't I do something as simple as this: Tell F-spot to import > photos > > from certain folder and NOT copy the files ANYWHERE. Just import > the > > photos, but leave the actual files where they are! > > > > IIRC I ONCE managed to make F-spot really use the /multimedia/pics, > but > > even then, if I imported pics from my camera, F-Spot always > imported > > them to /home/photos. So my pictures were split among two > locations, > > when I really want to have all my pics in one location. > > > > Why is this so hard? It feels like that F-Spot has certain way of > > working, and it wont budge from that way. And I would have to > adjust my > > way of working to suit F-Spot. And we are not talking about > anything > > fundamental here, we are talking about the location where the > pictures > > are stored! Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com From suser.koolinus@gmail.com Sun Jun 11 19:18:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D6B3B0346 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07664-10 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA343B01CC for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:18:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id s2so2120990uge for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:18:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=NZ0TIAm0g+h+U15yh1RHHAeDqDs08Kt85AgWgdvYYkHW2mbbHdcPFhJ8G8A0SqngkqX09zpA20u0TdVmVwaNXYPP9+6Pz745RzlGi7OrM7rM+C4tUm6O+PaeGh8aYIO7mBViLeu2wNsnCFo80ZMUo88F2wlXeaVU1YyXASb9H4U= Received: by 10.67.101.10 with SMTP id d10mr4592676ugm; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:08:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.46.2? ( [151.49.12.117]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q40sm4531169ugc.2006.06.11.16.08.01; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:08:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:08:27 +0200 Message-Id: <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.243 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.201, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.243 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 23:18:58 -0000 Il giorno dom, 11/06/2006 alle 21.49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen ha scritto: > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > Well, I thought that I just described my problem. > Yeah, you _kind of_ described your problem, but you left out a lot of > details: > > * what version of f-spot are you running? > * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? > * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your > miserable state :-p Hi Thomas, the "importing" behaviour described by Janne in his mail has always occurred to me too. I have my images in /mnt/fat32partition/images. Importing them in F-Spot has always caused the creation of a /home/user/Photos directory exactly the *same* size of /mnt/fat32part/images before said and with an internal structure as: /home/user/Photos/year/month/day/filename.jpg This has happened to me at least with Ubuntu 5.10, Ubuntu 6.06, Mandriva 2006, SUSE 10.0 and Fedora Core 5, rightafter importing images in F-Spot at it's first launch. So it gotta be a pretty common problem. I didn't find Janne's mail offensive or anything than pissed off. Now we should understand if he's signaled a bug or a wanted feature ;-) -- nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito http://koolinus.wordpress.com http://www.koolinus.net "If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy." Linux Registered User #293182 From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 11 20:27:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692BA3B00B7 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:27:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10384-06 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:27:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (1-1-3-2a.ehn.lk.bostream.se [82.183.137.113]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04BB3B00ED for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:27:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by denton.thuree.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDACA3AA9B for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 02:00:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 194.237.142.5 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bengt) by denton.thuree.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:00:51 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <17672.194.237.142.5.1150070451.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> In-Reply-To: <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:00:51 +0900 (JST) From: "Bengt Thuree" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-thuree-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-thuree-MailScanner-From: bengt@thuree.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 00:27:31 -0000 On Må, 2006-06-12, 08:08, nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito skrev: > Il giorno dom, 11/06/2006 alle 21.49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen ha > scritto: > >> On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: >> > Well, I thought that I just described my problem. > >> Yeah, you _kind of_ described your problem, but you left out a lot of >> details: >> >> * what version of f-spot are you running? >> * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? >> * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your >> miserable state :-p > > > Hi Thomas, > the "importing" behaviour described by Janne in his mail has always > occurred to me too. > > I have my images in /mnt/fat32partition/images. > > Importing them in F-Spot has always caused the creation of > a /home/user/Photos directory exactly the *same* size > of /mnt/fat32part/images before said and with an internal structure > as: /home/user/Photos/year/month/day/filename.jpg That is what copy usually does :) And since we are talking about photos, it is way better to be safe than sorry. But Larry is working on changing the import handling. > > I didn't find Janne's mail offensive or anything than pissed off. Now we > should understand if he's signaled a bug or a wanted feature ;-) To be honest, I agree with Thomas in this one. The mail did come out a bit harsh perhaps. Thomas had some nice suggestions as well. But totally agreeing with the frustration of Janne and others though. Tried to reply yesterday with a number of bugs that are related to this issue, but the mail seems not to have arrived to f-spot-list yet. So, here comes the bugs http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333503 (which is your problem) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337250 (specify Photos place) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318519 (lots of complaints) etc.... Anyway, nothing bad from it, and it did also highlight the fact that F-Spot is popular and becoming more so. With this comes more people using it, and a lot more different ways. F-Spot needs to handle this one way or another. /Bengt From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Mon Jun 12 01:04:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D953B00A7 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:04:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19740-03 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:04:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C721B3B000D for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:03:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h2so829310nfe for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:03:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=XZwv6v70/NHOz01EwFUE6ornrJrDXriY6+7SkIj7j5oCDgDFiLQqN7lDNmOMISDVXbdAlM+QVaHoFSG91noL+dpavcs41jRrQzfms+EzLtj2hDA0xNkUP9uADc3OgEI1QUpcCGpVmkzOzunb+mW4lLjdFiDOZvHy3wdWJY9QvFU= Received: by 10.49.92.15 with SMTP id u15mr4521889nfl; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:03:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C0A840.access.telenet.be ( [84.192.168.64]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l21sm4214223nfc.2006.06.11.22.03.10; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:03:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: "nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito" In-Reply-To: <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:03:09 +0200 Message-Id: <1150088589.6432.4.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.364 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.236, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.364 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 05:04:03 -0000 Hi all, On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 01:08 +0200, nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito wrote: > Hi Thomas, > the "importing" behaviour described by Janne in his mail has always > occurred to me too. > > I have my images in /mnt/fat32partition/images. > > Importing them in F-Spot has always caused the creation of > a /home/user/Photos directory exactly the *same* size > of /mnt/fat32part/images before said and with an internal structure > as: /home/user/Photos/year/month/day/filename.jpg > What I think has happened to both of you is the following. When you open the import dialog and select a directory before you uncheck the "copy" button, I think - but I might be wrong, I would have to check - that f-spot copies the photos to the Photos directory. If you then uncheck the button and perform the actual import, everything is imported correctly, but the Photos directory is not cleaned up accordingly. > This has happened to me at least with Ubuntu 5.10, Ubuntu 6.06, Mandriva > 2006, SUSE 10.0 and Fedora Core 5, rightafter importing images in F-Spot > at it's first launch. So it gotta be a pretty common problem. > If I'm not mistaken, there have been several fixes for this in CVS head, which are not in any released version yet. Larry, can you confirm this? Best Regards, Thomas From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 12 07:12:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB01A3B0061 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32130-01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:12:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.136]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F813B0078 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:12:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.185]) by fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5BCiZD7003471 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:44:36 +1000 Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5BCdNrY002229 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:39:25 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:39:27 +1000 Message-Id: <1150029567.5937.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:12:33 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 14:31 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs are > unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, F-Spot > constantly fights against me. Well, the version number is still far from 1.0.0 :) > > I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the > import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, select > "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to photos-folder", > and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. After > the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is it? > Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem > (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to select > "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to find > out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me where > those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are located > in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the date > of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be > in /multimedia/pics/ > > I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the Photos-folder. > Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same set > of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I edit any > of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my > home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. Do the following: 1) Click on PLUS or choose File -> Import 2) Unselect COPY to Photos 3) Choose location of the photos to be imported 4) Perform the import And yes, there are numerous bugs in Bugzilla on the import function. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333503 (which is your problem) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337250 (specify Photos place) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318519 (lots of complaints) Larry has mention he is rewriting it to fix most or all of the problems. And yes, there is also a patch in allowing you to specify your own Photos location. F-Spot is a desktop application, and as such it is not that easy to share everything around. It is one thing to share the actual photos, but F-Spot also have a database located in ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db where all the tags are stored for quick reference. And yes, there has been a number of bugs/mails about this as well. Please feel free to file bugs in BugZilla, since then the chance that they are fixed is that much higher :) /bengt From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 12 09:26:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3D53B00D4 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:26:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04111-04 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:26:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7513B0010 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:26:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jolly.thuree.com (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) by mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5CDPCVK022421 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:25:12 +1000 From: Bengt Thuree To: James Carroll In-Reply-To: References: <1150020822.5937.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:25:12 +1000 Message-Id: <1150118713.5937.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Problem running on ubuntu dapper X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bengt@thuree.com List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:26:05 -0000 Hi James Try the following 1) checkout a new version of F-Spot 2) cd to the just checkout directory 3) autogen.sh --prefix=/home//unstable/f-spot 4) make all 5) make install 6) cd ~/unstable/f-spot/bin 7) ./f-spot if this do not work, perhaps you can try to remove everything on your computer related to F-Spot? apt-get remove f-spot updatedb locate f-spot, and remove everything, and then start from 1 again? /Bengt From janne.ojaniemi@nbl.fi Mon Jun 12 14:02:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070DB3B08DE for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:02:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21917-09 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.nblnetworks.fi (smtp2.nblnetworks.fi [217.30.182.231]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024783B0504 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 12:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (xdsl-176-84.nblnetworks.fi [217.30.176.84]) by smtp2.nblnetworks.fi (8.13.1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k5CGtEtI005527; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:55:14 +0300 From: Janne Ojaniemi To: Thomas Van Machelen In-Reply-To: <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:52:41 +0300 Message-Id: <1150131161.7085.6.camel@serenity> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:02:32 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 21:49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > Hi Janne, > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 19:11 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > > Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long > > > rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: > > > > I apologize for my negativity. I really do. I had just spent quite a bit > > of time importing pictures, only to find out that I had bunch of photos > > in place where I did not want them. So I was quite pissed off when I > > wrote my initial message. > > > > I understand you were pissed off, but admit you were a bit hard ;-) Yeah, I was :(... > * what version of f-spot are you running? 0.11.1 > * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? It's the one that is available for Ubuntu. 0.11.1-1ubuntu1 > * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your > miserable state :-p I had bunch of pics in /multimedia/pics. I used the import-tool in F-spot to import them to F-spot. I did not want those pics to be copied from their present location, so I unselect the "copy to Photos-fodler". The problem it seems was that I unselected the "copy to..." AFTER I had selected the folder to import. When I unchecked it before the folder-selection, all works like it should :) From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Mon Jun 12 14:24:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E481B3B010E for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:24:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24480-01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC003B011A for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:24:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so955622nfc for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:24:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=kzTYyWOWYfIRDqbJi4IFTF9LCkkNOSdUcXlzQuHyZ7wffcZSKzrQce/Bjx6C6jJ5NJoU+Bl9wpyO/uPgKrJaL38IfTMWNmHH0cl31v2ns4ytzXT7lt1CZR89YdMA527OnedouvizgHC3o1i1J+lT44H0rJ/su2B4d7WtEFFlzq4= Received: by 10.49.3.16 with SMTP id f16mr5126203nfi; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C0A840.access.telenet.be ( [84.192.168.64]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id b1sm5919141nfe.2006.06.12.11.24.08; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:24:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Van Machelen To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150131161.7085.6.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> <1150131161.7085.6.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:24:07 +0200 Message-Id: <1150136647.5262.0.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.395 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.205, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.395 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:24:45 -0000 On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 19:52 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 21:49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > Hi Janne, > > > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 19:11 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > > > Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long > > > > rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: > > > > > > I apologize for my negativity. I really do. I had just spent quite a bit > > > of time importing pictures, only to find out that I had bunch of photos > > > in place where I did not want them. So I was quite pissed off when I > > > wrote my initial message. > > > > > > > I understand you were pissed off, but admit you were a bit hard ;-) > > Yeah, I was :(... > > > * what version of f-spot are you running? > > 0.11.1 > > > * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? > > It's the one that is available for Ubuntu. 0.11.1-1ubuntu1 > > > * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your > > miserable state :-p > > I had bunch of pics in /multimedia/pics. I used the import-tool in > F-spot to import them to F-spot. I did not want those pics to be copied > from their present location, so I unselect the "copy to Photos-fodler". > The problem it seems was that I unselected the "copy to..." AFTER I had > selected the folder to import. When I unchecked it before the > folder-selection, all works like it should :) > Cool, and as Larry confirmed this is fixed in cvs head, everybody's happy. Nice :-) From lewing@novell.com Mon Jun 12 15:26:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94DE3B00AF for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:26:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27322-01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:26:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6848E3B0010 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:26:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21900 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2006 18:24:00 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jun 2006 18:24:00 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Janne Ojaniemi In-Reply-To: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:32:12 -0500 Message-Id: <1150137133.3676.21.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:26:57 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 14:31 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > What am I doing wrong here? I don't think that my wants and needs are > unreasonable, as far as photomanagement is concerned. And still, F-Spot > constantly fights against me. > > So I have a bunch of photos on my computer. They are NOT in my > home-folder, but rather in /multimedia/pics. This way they are > accessible to my wife as well. And in that directory, they are also > divided among different folders, named after the subject. This way I can > browse the pictures in filemanager as well, should the need arise. > Sounds simple enough? Yes it does. But why is this setup so difficult > for F-Spot to handle? > > I want to import those pics to F-Spot. No problem. I select the > import-tool, select /multimedia/pics as the folder to import, select > "include subdirectories", unselect the "copy files to photos-folder", > and proceed with the import. And it does seem to work beautifully. After > the import, I have bunch of pictures in F-Spot. All is well, now is it? > Well, no. If I check the location of the picture in the filesystem > (F-Spot offers no easy tool for this. It seems that I have to select > "Copy Location", and paste the location to Terminal, in order to find > out where the actual file is located. F-Spot itself never tells me where > those pictures are in the filesystem). I notice that they are located > in /home/janne/photos/xxxx/yyyy/zzzz, where the x, y and z is the date > of the picture. And what I want is for those pictures to be > in /multimedia/pics/ > > I explicitly told F-Spot to NOT to copy the files to the Photos-folder. > Yet it ALWAYS copies the files to my home-directory, so I have same set > of pics copied in to multiple locations in the hard-drive. If I edit any > of the photos in F-spot, the edits are applied to the files on my > home-directory, and not to the pictures in /multimedia/pics. > > I just re-tried the import, after I deleted the photos-folder from my > home. And again it copied the files to my home. I then deleted the > photos-folder again, and the thumbnails were still visible in F-Spot, > but full-size photos were not. > > Why can't I do something as simple as this: Tell F-spot to import photos > from certain folder and NOT copy the files ANYWHERE. Just import the > photos, but leave the actual files where they are! > > IIRC I ONCE managed to make F-spot really use the /multimedia/pics, but > even then, if I imported pics from my camera, F-Spot always imported > them to /home/photos. So my pictures were split among two locations, > when I really want to have all my pics in one location. > > Why is this so hard? It feels like that F-Spot has certain way of > working, and it wont budge from that way. And I would have to adjust my > way of working to suit F-Spot. And we are not talking about anything > fundamental here, we are talking about the location where the pictures > are stored! > The copy thing is a bug it was fixed a few weeks ago in cvs. There had been a couple of unsuccessful attempts to fix it before that. Selecting the import directories when using f-spot to do the import is on the list of things that will probably go in but hasn't been done (completely) yet. There are patches that have been sent to this list in the last few days that start to address the issue. I'm sorry you have found using f-spot so frustrating, but I can't do much more to help than try to resolve the problems. --Larry From lewing@novell.com Mon Jun 12 15:33:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4463B0078 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:33:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27527-02 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90DEB3B00AF for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21907 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2006 18:31:56 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jun 2006 18:31:56 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Thomas Van Machelen In-Reply-To: <1150088589.6432.4.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> <1150067307.5349.8.camel@localhost> <1150088589.6432.4.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:40:08 -0500 Message-Id: <1150137608.3676.31.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:33:14 -0000 On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 07:03 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > Hi all, > > On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 01:08 +0200, nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito wrote: > > Hi Thomas, > > the "importing" behaviour described by Janne in his mail has always > > occurred to me too. > > > > I have my images in /mnt/fat32partition/images. > > > > Importing them in F-Spot has always caused the creation of > > a /home/user/Photos directory exactly the *same* size > > of /mnt/fat32part/images before said and with an internal structure > > as: /home/user/Photos/year/month/day/filename.jpg > > > > What I think has happened to both of you is the following. When you > open the import dialog and select a directory before you uncheck the > "copy" button, I think - but I might be wrong, I would have to check - > that f-spot copies the photos to the Photos directory. If you then > uncheck the button and perform the actual import, everything is imported > correctly, but the Photos directory is not cleaned up accordingly. > Right this is roughly the version of the bug that dapper shipped with iirc. The latest code fixes all this hoop jumping as well. > > This has happened to me at least with Ubuntu 5.10, Ubuntu 6.06, Mandriva > > 2006, SUSE 10.0 and Fedora Core 5, rightafter importing images in F-Spot > > at it's first launch. So it gotta be a pretty common problem. > > > > If I'm not mistaken, there have been several fixes for this in CVS head, > which are not in any released version yet. Larry, can you confirm this? > I can, and as I've said in this an other messages this is fixed in cvs trunk and stable. I'd happily release a new stable version today if I had any reason to believe the various distributions would ship it, but they are all currently frozen so the utility of doing that is questionable. --Larry From lewing@novell.com Mon Jun 12 15:54:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBB83B00E5 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:54:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28147-01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E733B0078 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21861 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2006 18:06:42 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jun 2006 18:06:42 -0000 From: Larry Ewing To: Thomas Van Machelen In-Reply-To: <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> References: <1150025498.7167.21.camel@serenity> <1150045899.5283.7.camel@localhost> <1150048592.5088.1.camel@serenity> <1150055377.5257.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:14:49 -0500 Message-Id: <1150136089.3676.6.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot Subject: Re: Why wont it do what I want it to do? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:54:51 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 21:49 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > Hi Janne, > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 20:56 +0300, Janne Ojaniemi wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 19:11 +0200, Thomas Van Machelen wrote: > > > Thank you for so much friendliness. Instead of just going into one long > > > rant, it would maybe have been a better idea to: > > > > I apologize for my negativity. I really do. I had just spent quite a bit > > of time importing pictures, only to find out that I had bunch of photos > > in place where I did not want them. So I was quite pissed off when I > > wrote my initial message. > > > > I understand you were pissed off, but admit you were a bit hard ;-) > > > > 2. ask someone on irc, or on the mailing list to see if they could > > > reproduce the behaviour > > > > Well, I thought that I just described my problem. > > > > Yeah, you _kind of_ described your problem, but you left out a lot of > details: > > * what version of f-spot are you running? > * are you running a distro version, if so what is it? > * what exact operation did you perform before you arrived in your > miserable state :-p > > What I suggest you do is the following: > * remove the f-spot sqlite db, it's ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db > * re-start f-spot, perform the import again but uncheck the "copy" > checkbox _before_ you select a folder to import from > * open the f-spot database by executing > $sqlite ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db > * perform a select * from photos go and look at the paths that appear in > the output: do they point to your original directory or to the local > ~/Photos dir? Just to be clear, this "copy check doesn't work bug" should be fixed in both head and stable for about two weeks. For those interested in having and f-spot that isn't quite so buggy as what is currently shipping in dapper and/or fc5 but who don't want to track the cutting edge use the fspot_0_1_branch in cvs. At lot of things have been fixed since 0.1.11. --Larry From stephane@delcroix.org Tue Jun 13 04:09:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339AB3B00C9 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15736-04 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:09:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4767B3B008F for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:09:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4157 invoked by uid 503); 13 Jun 2006 08:09:45 -0000 Received: from b7.ovh.net (HELO mail150.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.57) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2006 08:09:45 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2006 08:07:58 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2006 08:07:55 -0000 From: Stephane Delcroix To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 10:08:23 +0200 Message-Id: <1150186103.5901.15.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.181 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.275, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558] X-Spam-Score: -1.181 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Speeding up F-Spot X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:09:21 -0000 I'd just like to point your attention on two patches sleeping in bugzilla. Both are related to speed up f-spot and responsiveness. If you only have time to try and report on two patches in the following days, choose those ones !!! WorkerThread + Database threading, bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337724, patch http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=66967 : A hard name for a very good patch. Allow f-spot to write metadata in the background (thing about tagging, adjusting time, changing orientation, ...). You can even stop f-spot with some background action remaining. Next time you start, the process will continue. Thumbs up to Ruben! Progressive redraw, bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343856, patch http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=67011 : Precache images when browsing in Edit View or in FullScreen View. No more apparent redraw. Amazing! Thanks wjbaird! rgds, Stephane From gcgaf-f-spot-list@m.gmane.org Tue Jun 13 22:01:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C9D3B00D4 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:01:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13167-07 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4522C3B00C8 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FqKfq-0004If-7N for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:00:02 +0200 Received: from dsl-165-255-37.telkomadsl.co.za ([165.165.255.37]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:00:02 +0200 Received: from nmarais by dsl-165-255-37.telkomadsl.co.za with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:00:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Neilen Marais Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 03:34:29 +0200 Lines: 181 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dsl-165-255-37.telkomadsl.co.za User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Big Collections/Complex Meta-data/Is F-spot (going) to be for me? X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: f-spot-list.gnome.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:01:05 -0000 Hi I have a pretty big image database (about 12k photos) with fairly complex meta-data maintained in KPhotoAlbum. I've been eying F-spot for a while, since it has a very active community, looks pretty and seems quite nice to use. I also prefer GNOME apps all else being equal. KPhotoAlbum is not quite as smooth, but it's interface seems more "scalable" to me, while F-spot tries (and manages very well) to make easy stuff easy. I'm also quite excited by F-spot's ability to handle picture versions and RAW files. I don't think scalable and easy need to be mutually exclusive though. I'll list some features in KPhotoAlbum that I find makes it very useful for large/complex collections, and why they are useful. Perhaps I can convince the right people that it may be useful to implement something similar (if not identical) in F-Spot. These comments refer to F-Spot 0.1.11, as shipped with Ubuntu Dapper. I'll refer to KPhotoAlbum as KP from here on to save typing. Separate "Namespaces" ===================== F-spot seems to require the last level of a tag to be unique. Besides offending my personal sense of logical aesthetics, it also poses practical problems ;P In KP, each top-level tag is called a Category, and the tags within each Category are completely independent. In my KP database I have a "People" category for people visible in the photo, and a "Photographer" category for the person who took the picture. Of course People can also be Photographers, but usually not at the same time. Also the total number of photographers aren't the same as the total number of peoplo. It's also possible that unrelated tags can coincidentally have the same name. E.g. if you travel all over the world and meet people from all over the world, it's not unlikely that some placename in one country may be the same as someones name in another. In fact, identical placenames are quite common. Places.USA.Alabama.Greenville is not the same as Places.USA.California.Greenville (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cities#Most_common_city_names for more fun.) One can disambiguate by having Greenville_CA, but I already told you it's in California, damnit ;) Actually this is a problem in KP as well, since it's doesn't do any hierarchy within a category. It does have membership groups that does something similar, but that does not solve this problem. Membership Groups ----------------- I think F-Spot's hierarchical tags can fill the same need, but I'll describe them so its clear what I'm talking about. I'll use the Places category as an example. Say the location is "Friendly Bob's House" in Pinelands (the town), Western Cape (the state), South Africa. In KP I can make the location "South Africa" a membership group. Then I can assign all the states in South Africa (that I have in my DB anyway) to this group (e.g. Western Cape, Gauteng, etc.). Then I make Western Cape another membership group, and assign all the cities to it (e.g. Pinelands, Cape Town, etc.). I make Pinelands a membership group, and add "Friendly Bob's house" to it. Now I tag the picture with only "Friendly Bob's house". Because of the membership groups, KP knows the picture also belongs to "Pinelands", "Western Cape" and "South Africa", and will be found by searches on any of those 4 locations. Of course, Locations.South Africa.Western Cape.Pinelands would do just as well. It will also be more explicit (good), and if F-Spot supported it, would be separate from Locations.South Africa.Kwazulu Natal.Pinelands (which also exists!) Default "And" searching ======================= >From reading the list it seems that F-Spot will get more searching options soon, but IMHO if you can have only one choice, "and" would be better than "or". I hope that when the more featureful searching comes, there will be an easy way to make the default "and". Restrict Tags when Searching ============================ This kind of goes together with the default "and" searching. KP's main interface shows you a list of top level tags, along with how many entries each has. e.g. Locations - 10 People - 6 Then you select People -> "Friendly Bob" You can then look at all the pictures containing Bob, or keep selecting search tags. However, all the tags that never occur with Bob are removed, e.g. Locations - 4 People - 3 I.o.w. you see only the Locations that Bob's been photographed at and only the people that have been photographed with Bob. Now select Locations -> "Friendly Bob's House", and look at the pictures of Bob at his house, or continue: Locations (greyed out, since there are no others) People - 2 Then you could choose to look at pictures of Bob with his wife, or Bob with his son. I like this feature for two reasons. 1) If you're and-searching, there's no point in seeing the tags that will result in no pictures being found. 2) Its nice to see, for instance, how many people you have photographed at a certain location. Scalable Tag Selection ====================== It's hard to compare KP directly to F-Spot here, since the interface paradigms are quite different, so I'll just sketch my problem. In KP I have 9 Categories (i.e. top level tags), and some of them have many subtags. E.g. Events - 143 Keywords - 21 Locations - 237 Persons - 203 Photographer - 33 I've only had a camera for about two years, but found I like both photography and detailed tagging. I'm sure these numbers will have grown considerably in 10 years time! I will always have at least one tag from each of the 5 categories I listed here attached to every picture, so it is critical that tags can be selected from a large selection easily. KP makes the default way of finding a tag incremental search, and also sorts tags in order of last use by default. It also manages each category completely separately which means the 100's of "Persons" tags don't make it hard to pick a tag from the "Keywords" category. While I haven't dealt with that many tags in F-Spot, my feeling is the tag toolbar/tree on the left of F-Spot will be fairly well suited to dealing with many tags. Other places, where there are flat lists with all tag hierarchies exploded, will probably be unpleasant to use. What I'd need to switch ======================= Like you care ;P Anyway, my needs in order of priority are 1) "Fully qualified" tag uniqueness (i.e. People.A != Places.A) 2) "And" searching 3) Tag Restrictions while and-searching 4) Improved UI for selecting from large numbers of tags 1) is completely critical, since I can't losslesly move my current data into F-Spot without it. 2) is pretty important. 3) and 4) would be nice to have, but not that important. If other people think it's a good idea, should I make feature requests on the F-spot bugzilla, or how should I go ahead? Thanks for listening Neilen -- you know its kind of tragic we live in the new world but we've lost the magic -- Battery 9 (www.battery9.co.za) From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 16 05:48:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633443B000B for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 05:48:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24488-02 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 05:48:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B126D3B0011 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 05:48:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1403732uge for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.17.1 with SMTP id 1mr940549huq; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:37:44 +0200 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Importing photos with tags MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:48:45 -0000 I have several hundered photos that were tagged in a Windows program (BrilliantPhoto). I can extract the tags with a script and create an XML file or SQL dump for the tags. How can I then import that into the F-spot database? Any documentation on the F-spot database would be helpful. Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://gmail-com.com From stephane@delcroix.org Fri Jun 16 10:22:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D667D3B0012 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:22:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31319-04 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:22:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09E23B0007 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:22:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19469 invoked by uid 503); 16 Jun 2006 14:23:03 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail56.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2006 14:23:02 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2006 14:20:45 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2006 14:20:42 -0000 Subject: plugin support for F-Spot From: Stephane Delcroix To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 16:20:57 +0200 Message-Id: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.500004/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.178 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.272, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558] X-Spam-Score: -1.178 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:22:25 -0000 Hi list, I've spend some time lately to develop a plugin facility for F-Spot. So far, I've a virtual plugin class, some methods to load plugins, and a testplugin. Thanks to Thomas and his solution to bug #344534, I've also a way to compile plugins without the F-Spot sources. The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my guess), but some people need this. I'll be happy to see any comments, remarks, requirements... regards, Stephane From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Fri Jun 16 21:25:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCE03B0204 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:25:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30558-07 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:25:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE40D3B01CC for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:25:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1829050uge for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.10 with SMTP id d10mr3246797ugm; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.27.18 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606161816l8e942a7w9c1623407f6fd397@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 05:16:36 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: plugin support for F-Spot In-Reply-To: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.909 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.133, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.909 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 01:25:33 -0000 On 6/16/06, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as > many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to > my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my > guess), but some people need this. Plug-in architecture is a very, very useful thing :) But in your approach it's not limited to exporting functions, right? Alexandre From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 16 21:34:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128F03B0208 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:34:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30551-08 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:34:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (1-1-3-2a.ehn.lk.bostream.se [82.183.137.113]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FC33B0234 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:34:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by denton.thuree.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E173AA93 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 03:08:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 194.237.142.10 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bengt) by denton.thuree.com with HTTP; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:08:46 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <54022.194.237.142.10.1150506526.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> In-Reply-To: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> References: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:08:46 +0900 (JST) Subject: Re: plugin support for F-Spot From: "Bengt Thuree" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-thuree-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-thuree-MailScanner-From: bengt@thuree.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 01:34:22 -0000 On Fr, 2006-06-16, 23:20, Stephane Delcroix skrev: > Hi list, > > I've spend some time lately to develop a plugin facility for F-Spot. So > far, I've a virtual plugin class, some methods to load plugins, and a > testplugin. Thanks to Thomas and his solution to bug #344534, I've also > a way to compile plugins without the F-Spot sources. > > The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as > many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to > my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my > guess), but some people need this. > > I'll be happy to see any comments, remarks, requirements... Cool, this will come in very handy I think. Also another plugin area would be to import old data. I can see a lot of users are having existing data in another format, and they would like to import it to F-Spot. F-Spot will probably handle the main import areas in core, but Mr XXX Super Duper Photo Software's format. Have you raised an enhancement bug so we kan track this one? /Bengt From bengt@thuree.com Sat Jun 17 04:47:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7872D3B02F8 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 04:47:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14722-04 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 04:47:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail27.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail27.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.168]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC973B010F for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 04:47:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail27.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5H8jqUY013434; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:45:53 +1000 Subject: Re: Importing photos with tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:45:51 +1000 Message-Id: <1150533952.6150.8.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.526 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.074, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.526 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 08:47:13 -0000 > > Thanks, I'll look into that. I'm really a novice, what I can do is > extract the IPTC data that the tags are currently in with PHP and then > produce a text file (be it XML or SQL) to work with. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > Actually, have a look at the JPG file first. If the tags are stored in IPTC as well as in XMP format, you should be able to use the patch I wrote to let F-Spot read XMP data. IViewMedia Pro, were only supposed to store in IPTC as far as I understood, but they also stored the tags in XMP format. Also, I think that F-Spot has prepared to deal with IPTC tags as well. Have a look and see in IptcFile.cs, and see if you can create a new patch based on the XMP importer? Anyway, gthumb stores its tags in an xml file per photo, so you can take a look at that patch. Good Luck /Bengt From dotancohen@gmail.com Sat Jun 17 12:23:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDE23B000D for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26967-02 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0C53B00D5 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:23:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2011270uge for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:22:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.47.9 with SMTP id u9mr1409565huu; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 19:21:59 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Import/ Export of tags MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 16:23:20 -0000 As I'm trying to decide which photo organiser to use (between DigiKam, F-spot, and KPhotoAlbum) I would really appreciate the ability to move photos from one program to the other and to keep my tags intact. A user on the Digikam mailing list had mentioned that he would like to tag his photos 'in the field' on his laptop and to import them into the program when he gets home. I think that a kipi Import/ Export feature would solve both our problems. It would create an XML file similar to this: People*Ester People*Studies*Eli People*Studies*Anna Place*Haifa People*Ester People*Dotan People*Army*Jacob Place*Jerusalem This can easily be imported by any application, and it provides for hierarchical tags. (levels seperated by asteriks) What does the F-spot community think of this? Would you like to be able to work on the tags on the go and to import them later? And to easily move from application to application? This would also provide a secure way to back up the current sqlite database in an accessable manner. (any text editor could open it) Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com 332 From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 18 06:32:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3623B0967 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:32:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18535-06 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.136]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B8E3B071B for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail26.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail26.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.167]) by fallbackmx03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5GLVAwQ011181 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 07:31:10 +1000 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail26.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5GLU5TO023274; Sat, 17 Jun 2006 07:30:05 +1000 Subject: Re: Importing photos with tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:29:56 +1000 Message-Id: <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.528 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.072, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.528 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:32:28 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 11:37 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I have several hundered photos that were tagged in a Windows program > (BrilliantPhoto). I can extract the tags with a script and create an > XML file or SQL dump for the tags. How can I then import that into the > F-spot database? Any documentation on the F-spot database would be > helpful. > > Thanks in advance. > Hi there are two patches in bugzilla that enable importing existing GThumb metadata, and iView Media Pro meta data (in fact also existing F-Spot meta data). http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322366 - GThumb tags http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 - F-Spot tags Perhaps you can write a small patch your self? And create a bug in bugzilla and attach it to :) /Bengt From jordan.d.miller@gmail.com Sun Jun 18 07:11:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6DE33B09F5 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:11:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20389-08 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F023B0939 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:11:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2178963uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.8 with SMTP id d8mr4041428ugm; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.32.4 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:10:27 -0500 From: "Jordan Miller" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: F-spot user forum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8200_13353278.1150629027803" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.055 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_00_10=0.795, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: 0.055 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:14 -0000 ------=_Part_8200_13353278.1150629027803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot Project page if there isn't one already. I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum structure. Thoughts, Jordan ------=_Part_8200_13353278.1150629027803 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot Project page if there isn't one already.

I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum structure.

Thoughts,

Jordan
------=_Part_8200_13353278.1150629027803-- From drberg1000@gmail.com Sun Jun 18 11:11:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029813B0C2B for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32093-09 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B203B0C12 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 11:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1035507pyd for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.103.12 with SMTP id f12mr7129453pym; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.82.13 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:03:41 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: "Jordan Miller" Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.383 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.217, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.383 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:11:11 -0000 On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > Project page if there isn't one already. I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as familiar with the programming tools. --Dave > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > structure. > > Thoughts, > > Jordan > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > From ken@vandine.org Sun Jun 18 14:20:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931943B00B2 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:20:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07107-02 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239F63B000A for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.107] (cpe-071-065-240-185.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.240.185]) by ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5IHXuDe018625; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:33:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: F-spot user forum From: Ken VanDine To: David Berg In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:33:52 -0400 Message-Id: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.236 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.364, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.236 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:20:15 -0000 Actually, f-spot.org is a wiki. MediaWiki to be precise. I know MW has support for a forum like commenting system. Not sure what folks thing about using that. --Ken On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 10:03 -0500, David Berg wrote: > On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > > Project page if there isn't one already. > > I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow > documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as > familiar with the programming tools. > > --Dave > > > > > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > > structure. > > > > Thoughts, > > > > Jordan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From bengt@thuree.com Sun Jun 18 18:54:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD953B0071 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:54:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12735-04 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:54:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.193]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6591D3B00AF for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5IMrQQY020575 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:53:27 +1000 Subject: Re: F-spot user forum From: Bengt Thuree To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:53:26 +1000 Message-Id: <1150671206.5383.3.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.529 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.071, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.529 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:54:57 -0000 On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 10:03 -0500, David Berg wrote: > On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > > Project page if there isn't one already. > > I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow > documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as > familiar with the programming tools. f-spot.org is a wiki.... > > --Dave > > > > > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > > structure. > > > > Thoughts, > > > > Jordan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Sun Jun 18 19:52:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAAD23B0308 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:52:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15600-10 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:52:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC7C3B0E41 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:50:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2307846uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.10 with SMTP id d10mr1288767ugm; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.27.18 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606181649t6dc94c14s1c97d0c9d48b301a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:49:16 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.005 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.037, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.005 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:52:21 -0000 On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > structure. Why would you choose forum over existing wiki for storing ideas? Alexandre From gcgaf-f-spot-list@m.gmane.org Sun Jun 18 20:07:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADEC43B0223 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:07:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16137-07 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10243B0182 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:07:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Fs7GI-0003iB-2J for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:05:03 +0200 Received: from p54a1afb2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.161.175.178]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:05:02 +0200 Received: from colin by p54a1afb2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:05:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Colin Marquardt Subject: Re: F-spot user forum Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:59:33 +0200 Organization: I'd rather call it chaos. 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X-Now-Playing: Orphaned Land / Sahara -- [05] Seasons Unite X-Jabber-UID: cmarqu (see http://www.jabber.org) X-Home-Page: http://www.marquardt-home.de X-GnuPG-Key: gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.us.pgp.net --recv-keys 5359F413 X-Fingerprint: 6D9B 01B4 F8B9 500F 3056 D74F D27F EBF5 5359 F413 Cancel-Lock: sha1:K6/SELyPp8F6RwGWPi+X9Qrpu/k= Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.577 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.024, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.577 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:07:13 -0000 "Jordan Miller" writes: > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > Project page if there isn't one already. > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > structure. If you think more about searching and reading, how's this?: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.f-spot/1578 Cheers, Colin From drberg1000@gmail.com Sun Jun 18 22:52:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929363B03A9 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21279-10 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:52:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B2F3B0210 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:52:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c39so1125529pyd for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.127.15 with SMTP id e15mr7784197pyn; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.82.13 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:51:02 -0500 From: "David Berg" To: "Ken VanDine" Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.393 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.207, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.393 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:52:06 -0000 On 6/18/06, Ken VanDine wrote: > Actually, f-spot.org is a wiki. MediaWiki to be precise. I know MW has > support for a forum like commenting system. Not sure what folks thing > about using that. Looking closer at the website I do see that it says MediaWiki. Though there doesn't seem to be any way to create an account. The "Create an Account or Log In" link doesn't allow for account creation. I guess I'm also not used to sites where information can only be accessed through searching for it or using a direct link. Perhaps a mechanism to browse the wiki would be useful. Perhaps I'm missing something when navigating the website but by looking at the main pages and a few of the ones they link to I don't see anything that would indicate there is more to the site than what I can see by browsing. --Dave > --Ken > > > On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 10:03 -0500, David Berg wrote: > > On 6/18/06, Jordan Miller wrote: > > > I was wonder how difficult it would be to set up a forum on the F-spot > > > Project page if there isn't one already. > > > > I've been thinking a wiki would be nice. That could allow > > documentation to be easily contributed to by those who aren't as > > familiar with the programming tools. > > > > --Dave > > > > > > > > > > I find myself constantly searching through my email inbox and would love it > > > if the information we discuss could be organized online somewhere in a forum > > > structure. > > > > > > Thoughts, > > > > > > Jordan > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > F-spot-list mailing list > > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > F-spot-list mailing list > > F-spot-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > > > > From dotancohen@gmail.com Mon Jun 19 00:39:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400D23B0D22 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:39:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24632-05 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:39:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D353B0B1B for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:39:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2369453uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.33.17 with SMTP id g17mr1774973hug; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:38:39 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.408 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.366, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.408 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 04:39:53 -0000 I would be willing to run an f-spot FAQ site if someone would help me verify the correctness of the answers. Anybody who is interested can email me off list. My last wiki project turned into a hammer-the-spammer chase. If anybody has any questions with answers for a FAQ, then email them to me. I'll start compiling them and put them on a website. I haven't yet registered a name, but as soon as I see interest in the site from the list members I'll register one and get it started. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Mon Jun 19 01:42:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11923B0D4C for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:42:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26495-08 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:41:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15E43B0D43 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2393587uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.100.17 with SMTP id c17mr3950298ugm; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.27.18 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:41:16 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.788 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.812, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.788 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:42:00 -0000 On 6/19/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I would be willing to run an f-spot FAQ site if someone would help me > verify the correctness of the answers. Anybody who is interested can > email me off list. > > My last wiki project turned into a hammer-the-spammer chase. If > anybody has any questions with answers for a FAQ, then email them to > me. I'll start compiling them and put them on a website. I haven't yet > registered a name, but as soon as I see interest in the site from the > list members I'll register one and get it started. Why on Earth? We can simply grant you commit access to wiki. Alexandre From dotancohen@gmail.com Mon Jun 19 02:11:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93A63B02CF for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27360-08 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:11:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902943B00F5 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:11:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so2407385uge for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.45.13 with SMTP id s13mr1846834hus; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:10:05 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.08 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.520, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.08 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 06:11:09 -0000 On 19/06/06, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > > Why on Earth? > > We can simply grant you commit access to wiki. > > Alexandre Have you seen what fedorafaq.org has done for Fedora? It's all the same information that is available in Fedora's wiki, but in a Q/A format on a single page. Also, and this may sound rediculous but it's true, having both the wiki and a seperate FAQ site is two sites supporting f-spot, rather than one. Even if they have mostly the same information. That's important for people googling solutions or considering a switch to fspot. I, for one, have reservations about switching to a product with very little in the way of online documentation. This will add to the amount of online documentation resources available to the community. I don't want to replace the wiki, rather to make a seperate source of information that is more concice and easier to digest. Dotan Cohen From bengt@thuree.com Mon Jun 19 05:06:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9093B0014 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01595-07 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:06:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fallbackmx02.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.72]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611453B0004 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:06:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail30.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail30.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.193]) by fallbackmx02.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5HLg71e010142 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:42:08 +1000 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail30.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5HLaHle030266; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:36:18 +1000 Subject: Re: Import/ Export of tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:36:16 +1000 Message-Id: <1150580177.6150.24.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.53 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.070, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.53 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:06:53 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-17 at 19:21 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > As I'm trying to decide which photo organiser to use (between DigiKam, > F-spot, and KPhotoAlbum) I would really appreciate the ability to move > photos from one program to the other and to keep my tags intact. A > user on the Digikam mailing list had mentioned that he would like to > tag his photos 'in the field' on his laptop and to import them into > the program when he gets home. I think that a kipi Import/ Export > feature would solve both our problems. It would create an XML file > similar to this: > > > People*Ester > People*Studies*Eli > People*Studies*Anna > Place*Haifa > > > > People*Ester > People*Dotan > People*Army*Jacob > Place*Jerusalem > Where should this file be. Same place as the photo? or other place? One file per photo, same as GThumb does it, or one file for all photos? Could be great to have it implemented with the new Plugin feature though :) So, with this way, you are not allowed to use a "*" as a character in any of your tags I take it? > > This can easily be imported by any application, and it provides for > hierarchical tags. (levels seperated by asteriks) > > What does the F-spot community think of this? Would you like to be > able to work on the tags on the go and to import them later? And to > easily move from application to application? This would also provide a > secure way to back up the current sqlite database in an accessable > manner. (any text editor could open it) In my humble opinion there is only one place to definitely store the tags to ensure that they follow the picture and that the tags are readable by any application. That would be embedded inside the photo in a standard way. Like EXIF/XMP. Then you do not need to worry about the tag file dissapears or (in your case) the photo location changes. Not to mention worry about what happends over the years, since EXIF/XMP follows the standard, then that should be as future proof we can get. This is one of the main reason I choose to go with F-Spot, since the other applications you mentioned do not store the tags embedded inside the photo (yet). Me, it is not always I travel with a laptop, but I have a portable harddisk which I store the photos on. If you want to tag photos on the field on your laptop, why not simply tag them directly in F-Spot in that case? Regarding backing up the SQlite database by storing the tags in an XML file, I do not think so. The SQlite database contains already more information than only the tags, and this will likely just increase. The main place for the tags to be backed up, would be that they are backed up together with the photo since the tags are stored embedded inside the photo also. As I mentioned above. This would be a great feature for the new plugin method some are working on. My humble AUD 0.02 cent /Bengt From mvermaat@cs.vu.nl Mon Jun 19 07:00:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A507A3B0091 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:00:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05478-01 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:00:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069583B008F for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:00:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from olympiaplein.xs4all.nl (olympiaplein.xs4all.nl [80.126.168.64]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5JAxGsm088831 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:59:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mvermaat@cs.vu.nl) Subject: Re: F-spot user forum From: Martijn Vermaat To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:59:27 +0200 Message-Id: <1150714768.5522.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.581 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.018, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.581 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 11:00:20 -0000 Op ma, 19-06-2006 te 09:10 +0300, schreef Dotan Cohen: > Also, and this may sound rediculous but it's true, having both the > wiki and a seperate FAQ site is two sites supporting f-spot, rather > than one. Even if they have mostly the same information. That's > important for people googling solutions or considering a switch to > fspot. I, for one, have reservations about switching to a product with > very little in the way of online documentation. This will add to the > amount of online documentation resources available to the community. While I appreciate your enthousiasm, you should be carefull with this. As an example, in the Ubuntu community I see more and more problems originating from 'third-party' documentation. Sometimes it's someone's ego, sometimes they just don't know how to contribute to the official sources, but documentation scattered around the web is a problem for a number of reasons: * Unfortunately, a lot of howto's and tutorials are of questionable quality and advocate bad practice solutions. There's no way for the project to control this. * Maintainability is a problem. New versions of the software require updated documentation. * Almost never are these howto's and tutorials available in more than one language. The official documentation for Ubuntu gets translated by the translation teams. F-Spot has not translated its homepage I think, but it could in the future. * Last but not least, duplicate efforts are often a waste of time, especially when the official source for documentation could have been improved and/or the alternative source is harder to find. Some alternative sources of documentation don't suffer from most or all of these problems, but I know that all these problems are serious for the Ubuntu community. I don't think other projects are different. > I don't want to replace the wiki, rather to make a seperate source of > information that is more concice and easier to digest. Why not add some sort of FAQ page to the wiki in the form you envision? If people really need it, I think you would certainly be allowed to work on that. -- Martijn Vermaat mvermaat@cs.vu.nl http://www.cs.vu.nl/~mvermaat/ From dkoeb@ist.tugraz.at Mon Jun 19 16:13:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134363B0217 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:13:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30271-07 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:12:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chicago097.thex.at (chicago097.thex.at [217.172.179.97]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CADB13B0D15 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leia.peony.at ([192.168.3.19]) by chicago097.thex.at (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id k5JKBegx001484 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:11:42 +0200 Received: from [192.168.5.108] (chello080109204215.2.sc-graz.chello.at [80.109.204.215]) (authenticated bits=0) by leia.peony.at (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id k5JKBFrJ007489 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:11:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Daniel_K=F6b?= Subject: Re: F-spot user forum Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:10:24 +0200 To: David Berg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at chicago097 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 20:13:01 -0000 Am 19.06.2006 um 04:51 schrieb David Berg: > I guess I'm also not used to sites where information can only be > accessed through searching for it or using a direct link. Perhaps a > mechanism to browse the wiki would be useful. Maybe you find one of these pages useful: http://f-spot.org/Special:Specialpages Daniel From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Mon Jun 19 22:05:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302153B0CC5 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:05:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16756-06 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:05:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.203]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958883B0ABD for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:05:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id x3so1236027nzd for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.251.10 with SMTP id y10mr6140024qbh; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f16sm2671314qba.2006.06.19.18.57.59; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:58:04 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list Subject: Re: F-spot user forum References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 02:05:45 -0000 Dotan Cohen wrote: > Have you seen what fedorafaq.org has done for Fedora? It's all the > same information that is available in Fedora's wiki, but in a Q/A > format on a single page. > > Also, and this may sound rediculous but it's true, having both the > wiki and a seperate FAQ site is two sites supporting f-spot, rather > than one. Even if they have mostly the same information. That's > important for people googling solutions or considering a switch to > fspot. I, for one, have reservations about switching to a product with > very little in the way of online documentation. This will add to the > amount of online documentation resources available to the community. I think this sounds pretty dangerous. F-spot is a great product, and I don't think having a second artificially created website will make it any more accepted or popular. Also, I think it would be bad to have a FAQ maintained separately from the main website - it would mean that the core contributors would have to log into two places to maintain things. Any time you put documentation in two places, you greatly increase the likelyhood of it going out of sync. However, having a FAQ section/page on the current site would be wonderful, and if you are still interested in doing it, I think that would be great! Warren From bengt@thuree.com Tue Jun 20 03:04:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A453B0F28 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:04:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31178-08 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:03:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (1-1-3-2a.ehn.lk.bostream.se [82.183.137.113]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC463B0DE5 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:03:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denton.thuree.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by denton.thuree.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905F13AA9B for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:02:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 194.237.142.21 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bengt) by denton.thuree.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:02:33 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <15179.194.237.142.21.1150786953.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> In-Reply-To: <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:02:33 +0900 (JST) Subject: Re: F-spot user forum From: "Bengt Thuree" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-thuree-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-thuree-MailScanner-From: bengt@thuree.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:04:01 -0000 On Ti, 2006-06-20, 10:58, Warren Baird skrev: > Dotan Cohen wrote: >> Have you seen what fedorafaq.org has done for Fedora? It's all the >> same information that is available in Fedora's wiki, but in a Q/A >> format on a single page. >> > > I think this sounds pretty dangerous. F-spot is a great product, and I > don't think having a second artificially created website will make it > any more accepted or popular. Definitely second this > > Also, I think it would be bad to have a FAQ maintained separately from > the main website - it would mean that the core contributors would have > to log into two places to maintain things. Again, definitely second this > However, having a FAQ section/page on the current site would be > wonderful, and if you are still interested in doing it, I think that > would be great! Just to repeat myself... Again, definitely second this To have the same material in many places will just cause a lot of problems. On the other hand, having reviews of F-Spot, or links to F-Spot in many places would be very nice. Another thing I have been thinking of, is to create a Concept Guide (and perhaps a Help manual). If you are unsure what I am talking about, please check GnuCash concept guide. Here is the link to the CVS version. http://cvs.gnucash.org/docs/guide/ This is created in DocBook format, and is easily converted to Gnome help format, can be read by Yelp, can be converted to PDF as well as to TXT format. But, perhaps best to wait a bit until F-Spot gets a bit closer to 1.0? Then again, we should be able to come up with wich chapters we should have, and fill in general things, and possible more detailed information as well. The bad thing though, the more detailed the information is, the more often you will have to change since F-Spot is still under heavy development... My small 0.02 cents... /Bengt From stephane@delcroix.org Tue Jun 20 03:24:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28353B0F09 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32166-07 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:23:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6003B0EE3 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:23:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1703 invoked by uid 503); 20 Jun 2006 07:23:55 -0000 Received: from b7.ovh.net (HELO mail156.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.57) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 07:23:55 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 07:15:20 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 07:15:13 -0000 Subject: F-Spot plug-ins From: Stephane Delcroix To: F-Spot list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq" Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:16:03 +0200 Message-Id: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.941 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.523, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -1.941 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:24:02 -0000 --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone, I'm quite proud to give you this patch, adding support for loading plug-ins into F-Spot. I'll submit it to b.g.o. soon. For now, all Plugins in all .dll in $HOME/.gnome2/f-spot/plugins are loaded, but I plan to write another plugin to enable them at will. The patch include Thomas's solution to #344534, so you can compile plug-ins from outside the source tree using: mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot MyPlugin.cs Find also attached below 2 plugins, one displaying a dialog about plugins, and a first Export Plug-in, for sending mail (the export code is just a cut and paste from F-Spot core code). Those 2 plugins compile with: mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 DialogPlugin.cs mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 SendMailPlugin.cs It's a first and very early version, so write a lot of comments about it... rgds, Stephane --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=plugins.patch Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=plugins.patch; charset=ANSI_X3.4-1968 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: Makefile.am =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/Makefile.am,v retrieving revision 1.13 diff -u -p -r1.13 Makefile.am --- Makefile.am 17 Feb 2006 17:02:32 -0000 1.13 +++ Makefile.am 19 Jun 2006 15:54:03 -0000 @@ -17,6 +17,9 @@ desktop_in_files= \ desktop_files=$(desktop_in_files:.desktop.in=.desktop) @INTLTOOL_DESKTOP_RULE@ +pkgconfigdir = $(libdir)/pkgconfig +pkgconfig_DATA = f-spot.pc + Applicationsdir = $(datadir)/applications Applications_DATA = $(desktop_files) @@ -30,6 +33,7 @@ EXTRA_DIST = \ intltool-extract.in \ intltool-merge.in \ intltool-update.in \ + f-spot.pc.in \ f-spot.spec \ $(desktop_in_files) \ $(desktop_files) Index: configure.in =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/configure.in,v retrieving revision 1.102 diff -u -p -r1.102 configure.in --- configure.in 24 May 2006 15:44:42 -0000 1.102 +++ configure.in 19 Jun 2006 15:54:03 -0000 @@ -182,6 +182,7 @@ po/Makefile.in src/Defines.cs src/f-spot.exe.config src/Makefile +f-spot.pc f-spot.spec f-spot.desktop.in ]) Index: src/Global.cs =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/src/Global.cs,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -p -r1.8 Global.cs --- src/Global.cs 22 Mar 2006 19:14:41 -0000 1.8 +++ src/Global.cs 19 Jun 2006 15:54:03 -0000 @@ -18,6 +18,12 @@ namespace FSpot { } } + public static string PluginsDirectory { + get { + return System.IO.Path.Combine (BaseDirectory, "plugins"); + } + } + public static void ModifyColors (Gtk.Widget widget) { try { Index: src/MainWindow.cs =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/src/MainWindow.cs,v retrieving revision 1.298 diff -u -p -r1.298 MainWindow.cs --- src/MainWindow.cs 9 Jun 2006 23:24:57 -0000 1.298 +++ src/MainWindow.cs 19 Jun 2006 15:54:05 -0000 @@ -44,6 +44,7 @@ public class MainWindow { [Glade.Widget] MenuItem rename_version_menu_item; [Glade.Widget] MenuItem export; + [Glade.Widget] MenuItem export_menu_item; [Glade.Widget] MenuItem print; [Glade.Widget] MenuItem send_mail; @@ -107,6 +108,8 @@ public class MainWindow { PhotoVersionMenu versions_submenu; + ExportMenu export_submenu; + Gtk.ToggleButton browse_button; Gtk.ToggleButton edit_button; @@ -376,6 +379,10 @@ public class MainWindow { // When the icon_view is loaded, set it's initial scroll position icon_view.SizeAllocated += HandleIconViewReady; +System.Console.WriteLine("###############################################"); +FSpot.Plugins.Plugger plugger = new FSpot.Plugins.Plugger(); +System.Console.WriteLine("###############################################"); + UpdateToolbar (); } @@ -1463,7 +1470,8 @@ public class MainWindow { "Joshua Tauberer", "Joerg Buesse", "Jakub Steiner", - "Xavier Bouchoux" + "Xavier Bouchoux", + "Stephane Delcroix" }; // Translators should localize the following string @@ -2495,6 +2503,9 @@ public class MainWindow { version_menu_item.Submenu = versions_submenu; } + export_submenu = new ExportMenu (); + export_menu_item.Submenu = export_submenu; + set_as_background.Sensitive = single_active; adjust_color.Sensitive = single_active; adjust_time.Sensitive = active_selection; @@ -2905,4 +2916,12 @@ public class MainWindow { { toolTips.SetTip (widget, tip, null); } + + // + //Hooks for plugin + // + public void HandleExportWithPlugin (FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin ex_plugin) { + ex_plugin.DoExport(new FSpot.PhotoArray (SelectedPhotos ())); + } + } Index: src/Makefile.am =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/src/Makefile.am,v retrieving revision 1.63 diff -u -p -r1.63 Makefile.am --- src/Makefile.am 26 Apr 2006 20:31:07 -0000 1.63 +++ src/Makefile.am 19 Jun 2006 15:54:06 -0000 @@ -25,6 +25,7 @@ F_SPOT_CSDISTFILES = \ $(srcdir)/DirectoryCollection.cs \ $(srcdir)/ExceptionDialog.cs \ $(srcdir)/Exif.cs \ + $(srcdir)/ExportMenu.cs \ $(srcdir)/FlickrExport.cs \ $(srcdir)/FlickrRemote.cs \ $(srcdir)/FileImportBackend.cs \ @@ -79,6 +80,7 @@ F_SPOT_CSDISTFILES = \ $(srcdir)/PixbufUtils.cs \ $(srcdir)/PixbufCache.cs \ $(srcdir)/PixelBuffer.cs \ + $(srcdir)/Plugins.cs \ $(srcdir)/PreferenceDialog.cs \ $(srcdir)/Preferences.cs \ $(srcdir)/PreviewPopup.cs \ Index: src/f-spot.glade =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/gnome/f-spot/src/f-spot.glade,v retrieving revision 1.164 diff -u -p -r1.164 f-spot.glade --- src/f-spot.glade 6 Jun 2006 18:09:47 -0000 1.164 +++ src/f-spot.glade 19 Jun 2006 15:54:20 -0000 @@ -7250,6 +7250,20 @@ Photo Details + + + + True + + + + + + True + Export plugins + True + + @@ -7272,7 +7286,7 @@ Photo Details - + True gnome-stock-mail-fwd 1 @@ -7297,8 +7311,8 @@ Photo Details _Close True - + @@ -7635,7 +7649,7 @@ Photo Details True _Folder True - False + True month --- /dev/null 2006-06-19 09:02:49.376262000 +0200 +++ src/Plugins.cs 2006-06-19 17:38:29.000000000 +0200 @@ -0,0 +1,120 @@ +/* + * Plugins.cs + * + * Authors: + * Stephane Delcroix + * + * Copyright (C) 2006 Stephane Delcroix + * + */ + + +using System; +using System.Reflection; + +using System.Collections; + +using FSpot; + +namespace FSpot.Plugins { + + public class Plugger { + private static System.Collections.Hashtable plugins = new System.Collections.Hashtable(); + + public static string [] PluginsList { + get { + string [] list = new String[plugins.Count]; + plugins.Keys.CopyTo(list,0); + return list; + } + } + + public static string [] LoadedPlugins (System.Type type) { + ArrayList loadedplugins = new ArrayList(); + foreach (string plugin in PluginsList){ + if ( ((Plugin)plugins[plugin]).IsLoaded && (plugins[plugin]).GetType().IsSubclassOf(type)) + loadedplugins.Add(plugin); + } + return (string [])loadedplugins.ToArray(typeof(System.String)); + } + + public static string [] LoadedPlugins() { return LoadedPlugins(typeof(FSpot.Plugins.Plugin)); } + + public static Plugin Plugin(string ShortName) + { + return (Plugin)plugins[ShortName]; + } + + public Plugger () + { + LoadPluginsFromDirectory(FSpot.Global.PluginsDirectory); + InitializePlugins(PluginsList); + } + + public void LoadPluginsFromDirectories (string [] directories) + { + foreach ( String directory in directories ) + LoadPluginsFromDirectory (directory); + } + + private void LoadPluginsFromDirectory (string path) + { + foreach ( String dll in System.IO.Directory.GetFiles(path, "*.dll") ) + LoadPluginsFromFile(dll); + } + + private void LoadPluginsFromFile(string pluginfile) + { + Console.WriteLine ("Loading plugins from {0}...", pluginfile); + Assembly assembly = Assembly.LoadFile(pluginfile); + Type [] ts = assembly.GetTypes(); + foreach (Type t in ts){ + if ( t.IsSubclassOf(typeof(FSpot.Plugins.Plugin)) ){ + Plugin plugin = (Plugin)assembly.CreateInstance(t.ToString()); + Console.WriteLine("{0} available", t); + //FIXME: check if ShortName already exists in plugins[] + plugins [plugin.ShortName] = plugin; + } else + Console.WriteLine("{0} is NOT a Plugin", t); + } + } + + public void InitializePlugins(string [] pluginslist) + { + foreach (String plugin in pluginslist) { + ((Plugin)plugins[plugin]).Load(); + } + } + } + + public abstract class Plugin { + public abstract string DisplayName { get; } + public virtual string ShortName { get { return DisplayName; } } + public abstract string Description { get; } + private bool Loaded = false; + + public bool IsLoaded { + get { return Loaded; } + } + + public Plugin () + { + } + + public void Load () { + PluginInitialize(); + Loaded = true; + } + + protected abstract void PluginInitialize(); + } + + public abstract class ExportPlugin: Plugin { + public abstract string MenuEntryName { get; } + public void HandleMenuItemActivated(object sender, EventArgs args) + { + MainWindow.Toplevel.HandleExportWithPlugin(this); + } + public abstract void DoExport(IBrowsableCollection selectedphotos); + } +} --- /dev/null 2006-06-19 09:02:49.376262000 +0200 +++ src/ExportMenu.cs 2006-06-19 16:30:49.000000000 +0200 @@ -0,0 +1,28 @@ +using Gtk; +using GtkSharp; +using System; + +namespace FSpot { + public class ExportMenu : Menu { + public ExportMenu () + { + string [] exportplugins = FSpot.Plugins.Plugger.LoadedPlugins(typeof(FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin)); + + if ( exportplugins == null || exportplugins.Length == 0 ) { + MenuItem menu_item = new MenuItem ("No Export Plug-in available"); + menu_item.Show(); + menu_item.Sensitive = false; + Append(menu_item); + } + foreach (string shortname in exportplugins) { + FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin plugin = (FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin)FSpot.Plugins.Plugger.Plugin(shortname); + MenuItem menu_item = new MenuItem (plugin.MenuEntryName); + menu_item.Show(); + menu_item.Sensitive = true; + menu_item.Activated += new EventHandler (plugin.HandleMenuItemActivated); + + Append(menu_item); + } + } + } +} --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=DialogPlugin.cs Content-Type: text/x-csharp; name=DialogPlugin.cs; charset=ANSI_X3.4-1968 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit using System; using FSpot; using FSpot.Plugins; namespace FSpot.Plugins { public class DialogPlugin: FSpot.Plugins.Plugin { public override string DisplayName { get { return "Dialog Plugin"; } } public override string ShortName { get { return "DialogPlugin"; } } public override string Description { get { return "Warn the user about using plugins"; } } protected override void PluginInitialize() { Console.WriteLine("Initializing Dialog Plugin"); String header = "Plug-ins enabled version of F-Spot"; String msg = "You are running a plug-ins enabled version of F-Spot" + "\nPlug-ins can crash your F-Spot, delete all your images, and " + "completely destroy your database." + "\nYou have been warned! Don't fill any bug report " + "regarding plug-ins"; HigMessageDialog.RunHigMessageDialog(MainWindow.Toplevel.Window, Gtk.DialogFlags.DestroyWithParent, Gtk.MessageType.Warning, Gtk.ButtonsType.Ok,header,msg); } } } --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=SendMailPlugin.cs Content-Type: text/x-csharp; name=SendMailPlugin.cs; charset=ANSI_X3.4-1968 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit using System; using FSpot; using FSpot.Plugins; namespace FSpot.Plugins { public class SendMailPlugin: FSpot.Plugins.ExportPlugin { public override string DisplayName { get { return "Send Mail Plugin"; } } public override string ShortName { get { return "SendMailPlugin"; } } public override string Description { get { return "Create an e-mail with your photos attached"; } } public override string MenuEntryName { get { return "Send Mail...";} } protected override void PluginInitialize() { Console.WriteLine("Initializing Send Mail Plugin"); } public override void DoExport (IBrowsableCollection sel_photos) { Photo [] photos = (Photo [])sel_photos.Items; System.Text.StringBuilder url = new System.Text.StringBuilder ("mailto:?subject=my%20photos"); foreach (Photo p in photos) { url.Append ("&attach=" + UriList.EscapeString (p.DefaultVersionUri.LocalPath, true, true, true)); } Gnome.Url.Show (url.ToString ()); Console.WriteLine ("Exporting {0} pictures", sel_photos.Count); } } } --=-u9rnZ6a3j1LIzQvKFWuq-- From nmarais@snowisp.com Tue Jun 20 05:13:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95F73B0097 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:13:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05163-09 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:13:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ctb-mesg7.saix.net (ctb-mesg7.saix.net [196.25.240.77]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80823B0ECC for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:13:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from office.snowballeffect.net (dsl-165-225-212.telkomadsl.co.za [165.165.225.212]) by ctb-mesg7.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD702366F for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:12:36 +0200 (SAST) Received: (qmail 29551 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2006 13:50:59 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.20.130.19?) (10.20.130.19) by 192.168.20.58 with (RC4-MD5 encrypted) SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 13:50:59 +0200 Subject: Big Collections/Complex Meta-data/Is F-Spot (going to be) for me? From: Neilen Marais To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:12:18 +0200 Message-Id: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.533 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.533 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:13:43 -0000 Hi I have a pretty big image database (about 12k photos) with fairly complex meta-data maintained in KPhotoAlbum. I've been eying F-spot for a while, since it has a very active community, looks pretty and seems quite nice to use. I'm quite excited by F-spot's ability to handle picture versions and RAW files. I also prefer GNOME apps all else being equal. KPhotoAlbum is not quite as smooth, but it's interface seems more "scalable" to me, while F-spot tries (and manages very well) to make easy stuff easy. I don't think scalable and easy need to be mutually exclusive though. I'll list some features in KPhotoAlbum that I find makes it very useful for large/complex collections, and why they are useful. Perhaps I can convince the right people that it may be useful to implement something similar (if not identical) in F-Spot. These comments refer to F-Spot 0.1.11, as shipped with Ubuntu Dapper. I'll refer to KPhotoAlbum as KP from here on to save typing. Separate "Namespaces" ===================== F-spot seems to require the last level of a tag to be unique. Besides offending my personal sense of logical aesthetics, it also poses practical problems ;P In KP, each top-level tag is called a Category, and the tags within each Category are completely independent. In my KP database I have a "People" category for people visible in the photo, and a "Photographer" category for the person who took the picture. Of course People can also be Photographers, but usually not at the same time. Also the total number of photographers aren't the same as the total number of people. It's also possible that unrelated tags can coincidentally have the same name. E.g. if you travel all over the world and meet people from all over the world, it's not unlikely that some placename in one country may be the same as someones name in another. In fact, identical placenames are quite common. Places.USA.Alabama.Greenville is not the same as Places.USA.California.Greenville (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cities#Most_common_city_names for more fun.) One can disambiguate by having Greenville_CA, but I already told you it's in California, damnit ;) Actually this is a problem in KP as well, since it's doesn't do any hierarchy within a category. It does have membership groups that does something similar, but that does not solve this problem. Membership Groups ----------------- I think F-Spot's hierarchical tags can fill the same need, but I'll describe them so its clear what I'm talking about. I'll use the Places category as an example. Say the location is "Friendly Bob's House" in Pinelands (the town), Western Cape (the state), South Africa. In KP I can make the location "South Africa" a membership group. Then I can assign all the states in South Africa (that I have in my DB anyway) to this group (e.g. Western Cape, Gauteng, etc.). Then I make Western Cape another membership group, and assign all the cities to it (e.g. Pinelands, Cape Town, etc.). I make Pinelands a membership group, and add "Friendly Bob's house" to it. Now I tag the picture with only "Friendly Bob's house". Because of the membership groups, KP knows the picture also belongs to "Pinelands", "Western Cape" and "South Africa", and will be found by searches on any of those 4 locations. Of course, Locations.South Africa.Western Cape.Pinelands would do just as well. It will also be more explicit (good), and if F-Spot supported it, would be separate from Locations.South Africa.Kwazulu Natal.Pinelands (which also exists!) Default "And" searching ======================= >From reading the list it seems that F-Spot will get more searching options soon, but IMHO if you can have only one choice, "and" would be better than "or". I hope that when the more featureful searching comes, there will be an easy way to make the default "and". Restrict Tags when Searching ============================ This kind of goes together with the default "and" searching. KP's main interface shows you a list of top level tags, along with how many entries each has. e.g. Locations - 10 People - 6 Then you select People -> "Friendly Bob" You can then look at all the pictures containing Bob, or keep selecting search tags. However, all the tags that never occur with Bob are removed, e.g. Locations - 4 People - 3 I.o.w. you see only the Locations that Bob's been photographed at and only the people that have been photographed with Bob. Now select Locations -> "Friendly Bob's House", and look at the pictures of Bob at his house, or continue: Locations (greyed out, since there are no others) People - 2 Then you could choose to look at pictures of Bob with his wife, or Bob with his son. I like this feature for two reasons. 1) If you're and-searching, there's no point in seeing the tags that will result in no pictures being found. 2) Its nice to see, for instance, how many people you have photographed at a certain location. Scalable Tag Selection ====================== It's hard to compare KP directly to F-Spot here, since the interface paradigms are quite different, so I'll just sketch my problem. In KP I have 9 Categories (i.e. top level tags), and some of them have many subtags. E.g. Events - 143 Keywords - 21 Locations - 237 Persons - 203 Photographer - 33 I've only had a camera for about two years, but found I like both photography and detailed tagging. I'm sure these numbers will have grown considerably in 10 years time! I will always have at least one tag from each of the 5 categories I listed here attached to every picture, so it is critical that tags can be selected from a large selection easily. KP makes the default way of finding a tag incremental search, and also sorts tags in order of last use by default. It also manages each category completely separately which means the 100's of "Persons" tags don't make it hard to pick a tag from the "Keywords" category. While I haven't dealt with that many tags in F-Spot, my feeling is the tag toolbar/tree on the left of F-Spot will be fairly well suited to dealing with many tags. Other places, where there are flat lists with all tag hierarchies exploded, will probably be unpleasant to use. What I'd need to switch ======================= Like you care ;P Anyway, my needs in order of priority are 1) "Fully qualified" tag uniqueness (i.e. People.A != Places.A) 2) "And" searching 3) Tag Restrictions while and-searching 4) Improved UI for selecting from large numbers of tags 1) is completely critical, since I can't losslesly move my current data into F-Spot without it. 2) is pretty important. 3) and 4) would be nice to have, but not that important. If other people think it's a good idea, should I make feature requests on the F-spot bugzilla, or how should I go ahead? Thanks for listening Neilen -- you know its kind of tragic we live in the new world but we've lost the magic -- Battery 9 (www.battery9.co.za) From stephane@delcroix.org Tue Jun 20 05:38:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3E33B0329 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:38:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06374-04 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:38:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B85A3B02FA for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:38:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28829 invoked by uid 503); 20 Jun 2006 09:38:57 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail56.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 09:38:57 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 09:37:27 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 09:37:25 -0000 Subject: Re: F-Spot plug-ins From: Stephane Delcroix To: F-Spot list In-Reply-To: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> References: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:37:26 +0200 Message-Id: <1150796247.5909.31.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.152 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.246, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558] X-Spam-Score: -1.152 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:38:37 -0000 the bug in b.g.o.: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345395 On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 09:16 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm quite proud to give you this patch, adding support for loading > plug-ins into F-Spot. I'll submit it to b.g.o. soon. > > For now, all Plugins in all .dll in $HOME/.gnome2/f-spot/plugins are > loaded, but I plan to write another plugin to enable them at will. > > The patch include Thomas's solution to #344534, so you can compile > plug-ins from outside the source tree using: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot MyPlugin.cs > > Find also attached below 2 plugins, one displaying a dialog about > plugins, and a first Export Plug-in, for sending mail (the export code > is just a cut and paste from F-Spot core code). > > Those 2 plugins compile with: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 DialogPlugin.cs > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 SendMailPlugin.cs > > It's a first and very early version, so write a lot of comments about > it... > > rgds, > > Stephane > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list -- Stephane Delcroix stephane@delcroix.org From bengt@thuree.com Tue Jun 20 06:31:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18373B00FE for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 06:31:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08584-07 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 06:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.196]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BEB33B0248 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 06:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5KAUR3H011245; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:30:33 +1000 Subject: Re: F-Spot plug-ins From: Bengt Thuree To: Stephane Delcroix In-Reply-To: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> References: <1150787763.5909.15.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:30:26 +1000 Message-Id: <1150799426.5458.0.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.531 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.531 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:31:48 -0000 On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 09:16 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm quite proud to give you this patch, adding support for loading > plug-ins into F-Spot. I'll submit it to b.g.o. soon. > > For now, all Plugins in all .dll in $HOME/.gnome2/f-spot/plugins are > loaded, but I plan to write another plugin to enable them at will. > > The patch include Thomas's solution to #344534, so you can compile > plug-ins from outside the source tree using: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot MyPlugin.cs > > Find also attached below 2 plugins, one displaying a dialog about > plugins, and a first Export Plug-in, for sending mail (the export code > is just a cut and paste from F-Spot core code). > > Those 2 plugins compile with: > > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 DialogPlugin.cs > mcs -target:library -pkg:f-spot -pkg:gnome-sharp-2.0 SendMailPlugin.cs > > It's a first and very early version, so write a lot of comments about > it... > hier > rgds, > > Stephane Congratulations :) Looks good to me, not the best on plugins though. Would it be easy to add plugins for any part of F-Spot, or only for Export? /Bengt From stephane@delcroix.org Tue Jun 20 07:50:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556F33B078A for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:50:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12349-08 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1703B044D for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:49:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5534 invoked by uid 503); 20 Jun 2006 11:50:17 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail15.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 11:50:16 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 11:48:38 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2006 11:48:34 -0000 Subject: Re: Big Collections/Complex Meta-data/Is F-Spot (going to be) for me? From: Stephane Delcroix To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:48:43 +0200 Message-Id: <1150804124.5909.60.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.139 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.233, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558] X-Spam-Score: -1.139 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:50:00 -0000 Hi, Some of your needs are already work in progress. Check http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338558 for fully-qualified tag uniqueness, it's a strong request but solving it will require re-coding the 'Tag Typing'. Check http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139796 for advanced queries. It's one of the oldest bug request / patch in f-spot. You can CC your email address to follow the discussion about them. I like the idea of displaying more info about the selection (items per tag, ...). You can probably submit a enhancement request in bugzilla and attach a mockup of the UI. As always in F-Spot, the problem is not writing code to solve an issue, it's about writing good code and give the user a nice experience. Thanks for your report, Stephane On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 11:12 +0200, Neilen Marais wrote: > Hi > > I have a pretty big image database (about 12k photos) with fairly > complex meta-data maintained in KPhotoAlbum. I've been eying F-spot for > a while, since it has a very active community, looks pretty and seems > quite nice to use. I'm quite excited by F-spot's ability to handle > picture versions and RAW files. I also prefer GNOME apps all else being > equal. > > KPhotoAlbum is not quite as smooth, but it's interface seems more > "scalable" to me, while F-spot tries (and manages very well) to make > easy stuff easy. I don't think scalable and easy need to be mutually > exclusive though. > > I'll list some features in KPhotoAlbum that I find makes it very useful > for large/complex collections, and why they are useful. Perhaps I can > convince the right people that it may be useful to implement something > similar (if not identical) in F-Spot. > > These comments refer to F-Spot 0.1.11, as shipped with Ubuntu Dapper. > I'll refer to KPhotoAlbum as KP from here on to save typing. > > Separate "Namespaces" > ===================== > > F-spot seems to require the last level of a tag to be unique. Besides > offending my personal sense of logical aesthetics, it also poses > practical problems ;P > > In KP, each top-level tag is called a Category, and the tags within each > Category are completely independent. In my KP database I have a "People" > category for people visible in the photo, and a "Photographer" category > for the person who took the picture. Of course People can also be > Photographers, but usually not at the same time. Also the total number > of photographers aren't the same as the total number of people. > > It's also possible that unrelated tags can coincidentally have the same > name. E.g. if you travel all over the world and meet people from all > over the world, it's not unlikely that some placename in one country may > be the same as someones name in another. > > In fact, identical placenames are quite common. > Places.USA.Alabama.Greenville is not the same as > Places.USA.California.Greenville (see > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cities#Most_common_city_names for > more fun.) One can disambiguate by having Greenville_CA, but I already > told you it's in California, damnit ;) > > Actually this is a problem in KP as well, since it's doesn't do any > hierarchy within a category. It does have membership groups that does > something similar, but that does not solve this problem. > > Membership Groups > ----------------- > > I think F-Spot's hierarchical tags can fill the same need, but I'll > describe them so its clear what I'm talking about. > > I'll use the Places category as an example. Say the location is > "Friendly Bob's House" in Pinelands (the town), Western Cape (the > state), South Africa. In KP I can make the location "South Africa" a > membership group. Then I can assign all the states in South Africa (that > I have in my DB anyway) to this group (e.g. Western Cape, Gauteng, > etc.). Then I make Western Cape another membership group, and assign all > the cities to it (e.g. Pinelands, Cape Town, etc.). I make Pinelands a > membership group, and add "Friendly Bob's house" to it. > > Now I tag the picture with only "Friendly Bob's house". Because of the > membership groups, KP knows the picture also belongs to "Pinelands", > "Western Cape" and "South Africa", and will be found by searches on any > of those 4 locations. > > Of course, Locations.South Africa.Western Cape.Pinelands would do just > as well. It will also be more explicit (good), and if F-Spot supported > it, would be separate from Locations.South Africa.Kwazulu > Natal.Pinelands (which also exists!) > > Default "And" searching > ======================= > > >From reading the list it seems that F-Spot will get more searching > options soon, but IMHO if you can have only one choice, "and" would be > better than "or". I hope that when the more featureful searching comes, > there will be an easy way to make the default "and". > > Restrict Tags when Searching > ============================ > > This kind of goes together with the default "and" searching. KP's main > interface shows you a list of top level tags, along with how many > entries each has. e.g. > > Locations - 10 > People - 6 > > Then you select People -> "Friendly Bob" > > You can then look at all the pictures containing Bob, or keep selecting > search tags. However, all the tags that never occur with Bob are > removed, e.g. > > Locations - 4 > People - 3 > > I.o.w. you see only the Locations that Bob's been photographed at and > only the people that have been photographed with Bob. > > Now select Locations -> "Friendly Bob's House", > > and look at the pictures of Bob at his house, or continue: > > Locations (greyed out, since there are no others) > People - 2 > > Then you could choose to look at pictures of Bob with his wife, or Bob > with his son. > > I like this feature for two reasons. > > 1) If you're and-searching, there's no point in seeing the tags that > will result in no pictures being found. > 2) Its nice to see, for instance, how many people you have photographed > at a certain location. > > Scalable Tag Selection > ====================== > > It's hard to compare KP directly to F-Spot here, since the > interface paradigms are quite different, so I'll just sketch my problem. > In KP I have 9 Categories (i.e. top level tags), and some of them have > many subtags. E.g. > > Events - 143 > Keywords - 21 > Locations - 237 > Persons - 203 > Photographer - 33 > > I've only had a camera for about two years, but found I like both > photography and detailed tagging. I'm sure these numbers will have grown > considerably in 10 years time! > > I will always have at least one tag from each of the 5 categories I > listed here attached to every picture, so it is critical that tags can > be selected from a large selection easily. KP makes the default way of > finding a tag incremental search, and also sorts tags in order of last > use by default. It also manages each category completely separately > which means the 100's of "Persons" tags don't make it hard to pick a tag > from the "Keywords" category. > > While I haven't dealt with that many tags in F-Spot, my feeling is the > tag toolbar/tree on the left of F-Spot will be fairly well suited to > dealing with many tags. Other places, where there are flat lists with > all tag hierarchies exploded, will probably be unpleasant to use. > > What I'd need to switch > ======================= > > Like you care ;P Anyway, my needs in order of priority are > > 1) "Fully qualified" tag uniqueness (i.e. People.A != Places.A) > 2) "And" searching > 3) Tag Restrictions while and-searching > 4) Improved UI for selecting from large numbers of tags > > 1) is completely critical, since I can't losslesly move my current data > into F-Spot without it. > 2) is pretty important. > > 3) and 4) would be nice to have, but not that important. > > If other people think it's a good idea, should I make feature requests > on the F-spot bugzilla, or how should I go ahead? > > Thanks for listening > Neilen > -- Stephane Delcroix stephane@delcroix.org From bengt@thuree.com Tue Jun 20 08:47:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885573B0458 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15956-03 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:47:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.196]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E5F3B0452 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:47:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5KCkoxJ024455; Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:46:51 +1000 Subject: Re: IPTC Tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606190501r3cfac1fbp86b66427944c2f81@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606170921p79762b06g64f382660f9d8d40@mail.gmail.com> <1150580384.6150.28.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606190501r3cfac1fbp86b66427944c2f81@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:46:50 +1000 Message-Id: <1150807610.5458.5.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.533 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.067, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.533 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:47:59 -0000 Hi I tested it a bit, and F-Spot do read (in MetaData browser) the Keyword field. But none of the others (as I read somewhere on the web, they are not following the standard IPTC standard.) Hopefully, you can still base your patch on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 and get it to work with IPTC files. Check IptcFile.cs also. Good luck. /Bengt From lewing@novell.com Wed Jun 21 10:46:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D453B1035 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13755-02 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:45:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0983B0FD5 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:45:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3202 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2006 14:45:50 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.6.126?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jun 2006 14:45:50 -0000 Subject: Re: Importing photos with tags From: Larry Ewing To: Bengt Thuree In-Reply-To: <1150533952.6150.8.camel@workie.thuree.com> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> <1150533952.6150.8.camel@workie.thuree.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:53:56 -0500 Message-Id: <1150901636.8583.2.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:46:00 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-17 at 18:45 +1000, Bengt Thuree wrote: > > > > Thanks, I'll look into that. I'm really a novice, what I can do is > > extract the IPTC data that the tags are currently in with PHP and then > > produce a text file (be it XML or SQL) to work with. > > > > Dotan Cohen > > > > http://what-is-what.com > > > > Actually, have a look at the JPG file first. > If the tags are stored in IPTC as well as in XMP format, you should be > able to use the patch I wrote to let F-Spot read XMP data. > IViewMedia Pro, were only supposed to store in IPTC as far as I > understood, but they also stored the tags in XMP format. > > Also, I think that F-Spot has prepared to deal with IPTC tags as well. > Have a look and see in IptcFile.cs, and see if you can create a new > patch based on the XMP importer? > > Anyway, gthumb stores its tags in an xml file per photo, so you can take > a look at that patch. > All the metadata formats that f-spot parses it also can convert to XMP, that is how the extended metadata section in the metadata dialog is created. The code could use some polish but it should make normalizing the import code fairly simple. As a side note, it would be good if the gthumb parsing code could convert to XMP as well. --Larry From lewing@novell.com Wed Jun 21 10:51:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B772A3B0FA3 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14185-06 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43713B0EB3 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:51:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3228 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2006 14:51:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.6.126?) (lewing@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jun 2006 14:51:21 -0000 Subject: Re: plugin support for F-Spot From: Larry Ewing To: Stephane Delcroix In-Reply-To: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> References: <1150467658.6165.40.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:59:31 -0500 Message-Id: <1150901971.8583.8.camel@blue.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.465 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.066, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2] X-Spam-Score: -2.465 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:51:28 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 16:20 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Hi list, > > I've spend some time lately to develop a plugin facility for F-Spot. So > far, I've a virtual plugin class, some methods to load plugins, and a > testplugin. Thanks to Thomas and his solution to bug #344534, I've also > a way to compile plugins without the F-Spot sources. > > The main goal of this plugin facility is to provide (in a first time) as > many Export schemes as you can imagine. Export function like 'export to > my local photo store' will never ends up in the core of F-Spot (my > guess), but some people need this. > Sounds great. Import, export, editing, file format, metadata and sychronization are all possible plug-in entry points. The ImageFile code is meant to be trivially converted into a plugable system. The main issue with export as a plug in is dealing with the ui a sane way that avoids the gimp giant menu trap but also isn't too limiting on what sort of UI the plug-in can present to the user. I've given it a fair amount of thought, I'll try to write down what I've come up with in the next couple of days as i prepare for guadec. --Larry From bengt@thuree.com Wed Jun 21 18:22:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17AD3B00E4 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09445-06 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:22:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DEC3B03ED for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:21:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5LMLnqs031828; Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:21:50 +1000 Subject: Re: Importing photos with tags From: Bengt Thuree To: Larry Ewing In-Reply-To: <1150901636.8583.2.camel@blue.site> References: <880dece00606160237y5432385exd8ce96f1f00abd92@mail.gmail.com> <1150500596.11543.15.camel@workie.thuree.com> <880dece00606170109r772ac496h165381c595177f7f@mail.gmail.com> <1150533952.6150.8.camel@workie.thuree.com> <1150901636.8583.2.camel@blue.site> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:21:49 +1000 Message-Id: <1150928510.5385.9.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.534 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.066, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.534 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 22:22:17 -0000 On Wed, 2006-06-21 at 09:53 -0500, Larry Ewing wrote: > All the metadata formats that f-spot parses it also can convert to XMP, > that is how the extended metadata section in the metadata dialog is > created. The code could use some polish but it should make normalizing > the import code fairly simple. As a side note, it would be good if the > gthumb parsing code could convert to XMP as well. Convert to XMP? The gthumb as well as XMP parsing code, simply finds the tags, and then creates them the normal way with including storing them embedded inside the photo. Or did I miss something? > needs_commit |= gthumb.Import (photo, orig_path); > if (needs_commit) > store.Commit (photo); > /Bengt From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 23 13:39:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69EF3B04C1 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:39:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28028-07 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:39:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0C13B0813 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:39:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1216488uge for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.151.3 with SMTP id y3mr1393310hud; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606231039s39eadf04h3ab13415f0e8d48e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:39:24 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Accessing tags with PHP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.21 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.390, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.21 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:39:28 -0000 I have set up f-spot to store the tags in the picture files themselves. How can I access these tags with PHP? I do know how to access IPTC tags with PHP but not the tags that f-spot uses. A simple working code example would be very, very much appreciated. Also, are the tags UTF-8? If not, what charset are they? This is the code that I use to access IPTC: "; print "People: ".$iptc["2#118"][0]."
"; print "Place: ".$iptc["2#027"][0]."
"; print "Event: ".$iptc["2#105"][0]."
"; print "Date: ".$iptc["2#055"][0]."
"; print "Time: ".$iptc["2#060"][0]."
"; ?> Note that the IPTC tags used here are not to standard, they are as per the excellent windows software BrilliantPhoto. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com From ruben@Lambda1.be Fri Jun 23 17:13:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280F73B06F5 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:13:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05460-02 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:13:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oola.is.scarlet.be (oola.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.23]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EE93B0847 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:13:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ([62.235.141.211]) by oola.is.scarlet.be with ESMTP id k5NLDoA04650; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:13:50 +0200 Received: by localhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C1005460466; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:13:49 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Accessing tags with PHP From: Ruben Vermeersch To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606231039s39eadf04h3ab13415f0e8d48e@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00606231039s39eadf04h3ab13415f0e8d48e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:13:47 +0200 Message-Id: <1151097227.14599.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: oola 2020; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.59 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.59 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 21:13:56 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 20:39 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I have set up f-spot to store the tags in the picture files > themselves. How can I access these tags with PHP? I do know how to > access IPTC tags with PHP but not the tags that f-spot uses. A simple > working code example would be very, very much appreciated. > > Also, are the tags UTF-8? If not, what charset are they? > > This is the code that I use to access IPTC: > $size = GetImageSize ("/path/to/pic.jpg", &$info); > $iptc = iptcparse($info["APP13"]); > > print "Keywords: ".$iptc["2#025"][0]."
"; > print "People: ".$iptc["2#118"][0]."
"; > print "Place: ".$iptc["2#027"][0]."
"; > print "Event: ".$iptc["2#105"][0]."
"; > print "Date: ".$iptc["2#055"][0]."
"; > print "Time: ".$iptc["2#060"][0]."
"; > ?> > > Note that the IPTC tags used here are not to standard, they are as per > the excellent windows software BrilliantPhoto. As far as I know, f-spot stores tags in XMP metadata, so you'll have to extract it from XMP, not IPTC (but I could be wrong). Kind regards, Ruben Vermeersch -- Ruben Vermeersch (rubenv) http://www.Lambda1.be/ From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 23 18:04:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C69C3B0927 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:04:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07514-05 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:04:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1AC3B0905 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:04:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so59320uge for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.178.5 with SMTP id a5mr1448914huf; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606231504n399728ddh4fd14ca2404c998@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 01:04:07 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: "Ruben Vermeersch" Subject: Re: Accessing tags with PHP In-Reply-To: <1151097227.14599.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <880dece00606231039s39eadf04h3ab13415f0e8d48e@mail.gmail.com> <1151097227.14599.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.288 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.312, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.288 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:04:10 -0000 On 24/06/06, Ruben Vermeersch wrote: > On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 20:39 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I have set up f-spot to store the tags in the picture files > > themselves. How can I access these tags with PHP? I do know how to > > access IPTC tags with PHP but not the tags that f-spot uses. A simple > > working code example would be very, very much appreciated. > > > > Also, are the tags UTF-8? If not, what charset are they? > > > > This is the code that I use to access IPTC: > > > $size = GetImageSize ("/path/to/pic.jpg", &$info); > > $iptc = iptcparse($info["APP13"]); > > > > print "Keywords: ".$iptc["2#025"][0]."
"; > > print "People: ".$iptc["2#118"][0]."
"; > > print "Place: ".$iptc["2#027"][0]."
"; > > print "Event: ".$iptc["2#105"][0]."
"; > > print "Date: ".$iptc["2#055"][0]."
"; > > print "Time: ".$iptc["2#060"][0]."
"; > > ?> > > > > Note that the IPTC tags used here are not to standard, they are as per > > the excellent windows software BrilliantPhoto. > > As far as I know, f-spot stores tags in XMP metadata, so you'll have to > extract it from XMP, not IPTC (but I could be wrong). > > Kind regards, > Ruben Vermeersch > Thanks, that was clear to me. I have since found this: http://www.ozhiker.com/electronics/pjmt/library/list_contents.php4?show_fn=XMP.php But I have yet to put together working code. I'll play with ti a bit this week, but if anybody has a wheel that I don't need to reinvent, I'd appreciate seeing it. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://gmail-com.com From mailmarkh@googlemail.com Sat Jun 24 06:07:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 586A73B0146 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:07:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05863-08 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.199]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183BD3B01DC for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id t5so236733wxc for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 03:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.38.3 with SMTP id l3mr6022830wxl; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 03:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.59.10 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 03:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:07:39 +0100 From: "Mark Howard" Sender: mailmarkh@googlemail.com To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Import from disk and auto-tag MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 343ccbe359cdc39a X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:07:41 -0000 Hi, I have a large collection of photos organised on disk by directory structure. I would like f-spot to import these and automatically tag each photo based on the directory that it's in. There doesn't seem to be any gui tool for this (without specifying each directory and tag separately, which is not an option for such a large collection). Is there any other way to do this? Perhaps some (hidden) way of specifying a tag when using f-spot --import , so that I could write a simple script to do it? Many thanks in advance for any comments. Sorry if this has been asked before - I couldn't find anything through google and the mailing list search is currently broken. Mark Howard From bengt@thuree.com Sat Jun 24 06:56:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8B73B00D4 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:56:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08180-08 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:56:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C393B013A for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:56:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5OAuI9Z014916; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:56:19 +1000 Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag From: Bengt Thuree To: Mark Howard In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:56:19 +1000 Message-Id: <1151146579.13629.3.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.535 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.535 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:56:24 -0000 On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 11:07 +0100, Mark Howard wrote: > Hi, > > I have a large collection of photos organised on disk by directory > structure. I would like f-spot to import these and automatically tag > each photo based on the directory that it's in. There doesn't seem to > be any gui tool for this (without specifying each directory and tag > separately, which is not an option for such a large collection). Is > there any other way to do this? Perhaps some (hidden) way of > specifying a tag when using f-spot --import , so that I could > write a simple script to do it? > > Many thanks in advance for any comments. Sorry if this has been asked > before - I couldn't find anything through google and the mailing list > search is currently broken. Sorry, but currently F-Spot do not support this. Please see bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344426 in bugzilla for a similar enhancement request. /Bengt From andreas.henden@vice-chairman.net Sat Jun 24 10:40:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3EF23B06FA for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:40:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19727-03 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gordons.ginandtonic.no (gordons.ginandtonic.no [195.159.29.69]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA973B0490 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host-81-191-129-68.bluecom.no ([81.191.129.68] helo=skrue.andeby) by gordons.ginandtonic.no with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1Fu9Io-0002Gv-71 for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:40:02 +0200 Subject: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg From: Andreas Henden To: f-spot-list Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:39:32 +0200 Message-Id: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.72 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.744, BAYES_05=-1.11, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -1.72 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:40:09 -0000 Hi I want sometimes to convert some of my cr2 files into jpg for sending by mail or something like that. I have used gimp but I can't seem to get so nice colors with gimp that is the default setting in f-spot. So I'm asking for two things. Will there be any function for converting from cr2 too jpg and or is there any way to get the same result with any command line tool or any other tool with not too much effort! -- Andreas Henden From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Sat Jun 24 10:44:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8283B07F1 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19693-10 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:44:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.195]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE393B0490 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:44:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i1so1389294nzh for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.148.4 with SMTP id v4mr1106859qbd; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f14sm166591qba.2006.06.24.07.44.05; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 07:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:44:10 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: F-Spot list Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.461 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.138, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_XM=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.461 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:44:08 -0000 Mark Howard wrote: > Hi, > > I have a large collection of photos organised on disk by directory > structure. I would like f-spot to import these and automatically tag > each photo based on the directory that it's in. There doesn't seem to > be any gui tool for this (without specifying each directory and tag > separately, which is not an option for such a large collection). Is > there any other way to do this? Perhaps some (hidden) way of > specifying a tag when using f-spot --import , so that I could > write a simple script to do it? There's no mechanism to do this automatically - however, there are some patches for bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 that will make this relatively easy --- the patch I submitted against the bug will take simple xmp-like "sidecar" files at import and create tags for them. Basically you need to write a script that creates for every file foo.jpg, a file called foo.jpg.xmp - the contents should look like this: Tag 1 Tag 2 ... Tag N Then with my patch, when you do the import, the tags will be created (if necessary), and attached to each photo appropriately. Hope this helps. Warren From brian@brianpuccio.net Sat Jun 24 11:28:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDFF3B03C2 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:28:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22438-02 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:28:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server1.digitalrhapsody.com (server1.digitalrhapsody.com [204.15.133.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E3F3B08B4 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.13] (ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net [69.122.156.56]) by server1.digitalrhapsody.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1109BB7E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) In-Reply-To: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-2-1057010543" Message-Id: <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Brian Puccio Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:28:22 -0400 To: f-spot-list X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:28:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --Apple-Mail-2-1057010543 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Jun 24, 2006, at 10:39 AM, Andreas Henden wrote: > > I want sometimes to convert some of my cr2 files into jpg for > sending by > mail or something like that. I have used gimp but I can't seem to > get so > nice colors with gimp that is the default setting in f-spot. So I'm > asking for two things. Will there be any function for converting from > cr2 too jpg and or is there any way to get the same result with any > command line tool or any other tool with not too much effort! Look into tools like ufraw (it has a batch commandline mode) and dcraw (upon which ufraw is based) --Apple-Mail-2-1057010543 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQFEnVoW/FtTOrvSQB8RAnG9AJ0Wb432u5t30Lix+zC/slAr2o0TiQCfdN08 IHM6Bae6FzdD4L8k1WAliYc= =ztTX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-2-1057010543-- From andreas.henden@vice-chairman.net Sat Jun 24 12:37:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F973B01DC for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:37:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25834-01 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gordons.ginandtonic.no (gordons.ginandtonic.no [195.159.29.69]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC79B3B017E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host-81-191-129-68.bluecom.no ([81.191.129.68] helo=skrue.andeby) by gordons.ginandtonic.no with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1FuB8K-0002fs-9T; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:37:20 +0200 Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg From: Andreas Henden To: Brian Puccio In-Reply-To: <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:36:51 +0200 Message-Id: <1151167012.6113.12.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.417 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.047, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.417 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:37:45 -0000 the thing is that the default colors in f-spot is much nicer than with ufraw. On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 11:28 -0400, Brian Puccio wrote: > On Jun 24, 2006, at 10:39 AM, Andreas Henden wrote: > > > > I want sometimes to convert some of my cr2 files into jpg for > > sending by > > mail or something like that. I have used gimp but I can't seem to > > get so > > nice colors with gimp that is the default setting in f-spot. So I'm > > asking for two things. Will there be any function for converting from > > cr2 too jpg and or is there any way to get the same result with any > > command line tool or any other tool with not too much effort! > > Look into tools like ufraw (it has a batch commandline mode) and > dcraw (upon which ufraw is based) > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list -- Andreas Henden From gcgaf-f-spot-list@m.gmane.org Sat Jun 24 12:47:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982883B01DC for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:47:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26123-03 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9BA3B006E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FuBH9-0003mU-Px for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:27 +0200 Received: from p54b382b3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.179.130.179]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:27 +0200 Received: from cs_teawbdifws_001 by p54b382b3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:27 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: f-spot-list@gnome.org From: Carsten Schurig Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:33 +0200 Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> <1151167012.6113.12.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54b382b3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060111) In-Reply-To: <1151167012.6113.12.camel@skrue.andeby> Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.216 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.094, BAYES_00=-2.599, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS=0.291, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.216 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:47:06 -0000 Andreas Henden schrieb: > the thing is that the default colors in f-spot is much nicer than with > ufraw. That's more an issue with the settings you choose in ufraw. I think f-spot just displays the embedded preview of the CR2 which was created by the cam. If you'd choose the same parameters in ufraw as the cam used, the results should be almost identical (but for the internal sharpening, which ufraw doesn't do). But I aggree it would be nice to have RAW->JPEG conversion better integrated into f-spot. I'd esp. like to have the resulting JPEG/PNG/whatever as a version of the RAW. Currently I add the resulting JPEG to f-spot and get an extra file this way... (But I'd still like to use an external tool as I think about purchasing bibble.) Just my 2¢, Carsten -- God's Final Message to His Creation: "We apologize for the inconvenience." (Douglas Adams: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish) From andreas.henden@vice-chairman.net Sat Jun 24 12:53:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDA23B01BE for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:53:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26384-06 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gordons.ginandtonic.no (gordons.ginandtonic.no [195.159.29.69]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB4F3B017E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host-81-191-129-68.bluecom.no ([81.191.129.68] helo=skrue.andeby) by gordons.ginandtonic.no with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1FuBNe-0002j2-0L for f-spot-list@gnome.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:53:10 +0200 Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg From: Andreas Henden To: f-spot-list In-Reply-To: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:52:41 +0200 Message-Id: <1151167961.6113.14.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.433 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.031, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.433 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:53:49 -0000 hmm, why did I write saveing. It is of course saving.... On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 16:39 +0200, Andreas Henden wrote: > Hi > > I want sometimes to convert some of my cr2 files into jpg for sending by > mail or something like that. I have used gimp but I can't seem to get so > nice colors with gimp that is the default setting in f-spot. So I'm > asking for two things. Will there be any function for converting from > cr2 too jpg and or is there any way to get the same result with any > command line tool or any other tool with not too much effort! > > -- Andreas Henden From thomas.vanmachelen@gmail.com Mon Jun 26 01:11:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10FA93B00A9 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:11:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22744-06 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:11:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9AA3B010B for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:11:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c29so856906nfb for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.223.13 with SMTP id v13mr4531484nfg; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d54C1E126.access.telenet.be ( [84.193.225.38]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l38sm2331799nfc.2006.06.25.22.10.59; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Good luck From: Thomas Van Machelen To: f-spot Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:10:59 +0200 Message-Id: <1151298659.5102.4.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.174 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.226, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.174 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 05:11:04 -0000 Hi Larry, Good luck this afternoon with the f-spot talk. I think we're all eager to hear about how well you did ;-) Best Regards, Thomas From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Mon Jun 26 09:29:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38EE3B0369 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20838-07 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F76C3B017B for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:29:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so826232uge for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.244.10 with SMTP id r10mr4973148ugh; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606260629g326d3cfem9ce1503749d57f38@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:29:13 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg In-Reply-To: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.765 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.635, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.765 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:29:16 -0000 On 6/24/06, Andreas Henden wrote: > the thing is that the default colors in f-spot is much nicer than with > ufraw. Which means that you need to setup UFRaw properly :) Consider this: white balance presets, base curve, gamma and linearity, color matrix on/off, input ICC-profile. Alexandre From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Mon Jun 26 09:30:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33D13B035F for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20890-09 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A2A3B009A for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so826983uge for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.8 with SMTP id d8mr4976101ugm; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606260630g69b5775fhfb6b3054cc383e33@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:30:43 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <59E7F322-7564-4DB7-BB60-18192009FEF6@brianpuccio.net> <1151167012.6113.12.camel@skrue.andeby> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.828 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.572, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.828 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:30:46 -0000 On 6/24/06, Carsten Schurig wrote: > Currently I add the resulting JPEG to f-spot and get an extra file > this way... (But I'd still like to > use an external tool as I think about purchasing bibble.) Which means that we need a possibility to make a file a version of another one. Alexandre From andreas.henden@vice-chairman.net Mon Jun 26 13:22:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345F23B0330 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:22:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03046-01 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:22:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gordons.ginandtonic.no (gordons.ginandtonic.no [195.159.29.69]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE853B036C for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:22:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host-81-191-129-68.bluecom.no ([81.191.129.68] helo=skrue.andeby) by gordons.ginandtonic.no with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1FuunL-0004o4-3l; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:22:43 +0200 Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg From: Andreas Henden To: Alexandre Prokoudine In-Reply-To: <733f2c730606260629g326d3cfem9ce1503749d57f38@mail.gmail.com> References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <733f2c730606260629g326d3cfem9ce1503749d57f38@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:22:12 +0200 Message-Id: <1151342532.6611.3.camel@skrue.andeby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.441 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.023, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.441 X-Spam-Level: Cc: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:22:59 -0000 On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 17:29 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On 6/24/06, Andreas Henden wrote: > > the thing is that the default colors in f-spot is much nicer than with > > ufraw. > > Which means that you need to setup UFRaw properly :) > > Consider this: white balance presets, base curve, gamma and linearity, > color matrix on/off, input ICC-profile. Things got much better after I got the right input profile. The hard part is setting up UFRaw porperly. Does f-spot calculate any values or does it use pre defined values? > > Alexandre > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > -- Andreas Henden From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Mon Jun 26 14:10:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80ACE3B036C for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:10:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06066-03 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:10:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2DC3B0161 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:10:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so960928uge for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.89.5 with SMTP id r5mr5228121ugl; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606261110s2ddc8f01qffeeb29bdc2feafe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:10:08 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: saveing raw (cr2) files into jpg In-Reply-To: <1151342532.6611.3.camel@skrue.andeby> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1151159972.6113.9.camel@skrue.andeby> <733f2c730606260629g326d3cfem9ce1503749d57f38@mail.gmail.com> <1151342532.6611.3.camel@skrue.andeby> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.881 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.519, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.881 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:10:11 -0000 On 6/26/06, Andreas Henden wrote: > Things got much better after I got the right input profile. The hard > part is setting up UFRaw porperly. Does f-spot calculate any values or > does it use pre defined values? It loads JPEG preview from Makernote area (if I'm not mistaken), so no calculation whatsoever for now :) Larry said before, that RAW processing has very high priority in his todo list, one of highest. Alexandre From nmarais@snowisp.com Mon Jun 26 16:11:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA24E3B00AB for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12499-06 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:11:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ctb-mesg8.saix.net (ctb-mesg8.saix.net [196.25.240.78]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE0A3B01DC for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from office.snowballeffect.net (dsl-146-194-202.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.194.202]) by ctb-mesg8.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303373184 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:11:00 +0200 (SAST) Received: (qmail 4114 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2006 00:50:09 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.20.130.19?) (10.20.130.19) by 192.168.20.58 with (RC4-MD5 encrypted) SMTP; 27 Jun 2006 00:50:09 +0200 Subject: Re: Big Collections/Complex Meta-data/Is F-Spot (going to be) for me? From: Neilen Marais To: f-spot-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1150804124.5909.60.camel@localhost> References: <1150794738.18919.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1150804124.5909.60.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:10:51 +0200 Message-Id: <1151352651.18919.121.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:11:12 -0000 Hi Stephane On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 13:48 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > You can CC your email address to follow the discussion about them. Will do, thanks. > I like the idea of displaying more info about the selection (items per > tag, ...). You can probably submit a enhancement request in bugzilla and > attach a mockup of the UI. I'll see if I can come up with something... > As always in F-Spot, the problem is not > writing code to solve an issue, it's about writing good code and give > the user a nice experience. Yes, it shows. That's no doubt why F-Spot seems so nice to use :) Regards Neilen From alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com Tue Jun 27 07:43:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24823B00B3 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:43:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26554-06 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:42:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A3A3B00AB for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:42:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1304318uge for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.243.2 with SMTP id q2mr5970204ugh; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <733f2c730606270442j1be3d318mcea026affb62bb86@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:42:28 +0400 From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: F-spot user forum In-Reply-To: <15179.194.237.142.21.1150786953.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1150652032.4253.11.camel@localhost> <880dece00606182138p36625fe9i758df297b0180e79@mail.gmail.com> <733f2c730606182241y73fa575cn3a8f261af50ebe65@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00606182310x7c1a555r2914d002695e725a@mail.gmail.com> <4497562C.5000304@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <15179.194.237.142.21.1150786953.squirrel@denton.thuree.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.92 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.480, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.92 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:43:01 -0000 On 6/20/06, Bengt Thuree wrote: > To have the same material in many places will just cause a lot of > problems. On the other hand, having reviews of F-Spot, or links to F-Spot > in many places would be very nice. So, do we create new FAQ page and add it to the menu and grant Jordan rights to edit it? Alexandre From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 03:59:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0E93B028E for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 03:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02351-06 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 03:59:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE273B0249 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 03:59:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id q29so117057nfc for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.117.10 with SMTP id p10mr77693huc; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.59.15 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606300059p7c2d036bjd2cd530116e0c3c2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:59:43 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Crash report MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.272 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.103, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_GD=0.077, TW_GT=0.077, TW_TK=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.272 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:59:57 -0000 I was trying to export some photos and clicked on Add Album. I clicked on this after I had clicked Start, so that may or may not be relevant. This was the crash output: An unhandled exception was thrown: Object reference not set to an instance of an object An unhandled exception was thrown: Object reference not set to an instance of an object in <0x00015> FSpot.GalleryExport:HandleAddAlbum (System.Object sender, System.EventArgs args) in (wrapper delegate-invoke) System.MulticastDelegate:invoke_void_object_EventArgs (object,System.EventArgs) in <0x00093> GLib.Signal:voidObjectCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr gch) in (wrapper native-to-managed) GLib.Signal:voidObjectCallback (intptr,intptr) in <0x00000> in (wrapper managed-to-native) Gtk.Application:gtk_main () in <0x00007> Gtk.Application:Run () in <0x00007> Gnome.Program:Run () in <0x00542> FSpot.Driver:Main (System.String[] args) .NET Version: 1.1.4322.2032 Assembly Version Information: libgphoto2-sharp (1.0.2334.23664) System.Xml (1.0.5000.0) FlickrNet (1.1.0.0) System.Web (1.0.5000.0) gconf-sharp (2.8.0.0) pango-sharp (2.8.0.0) SemWeb (0.5.0.2) glade-sharp (2.8.0.0) gtkhtml-sharp (2.8.0.0) System.Data (1.0.5000.0) Mono.Data.SqliteClient (1.0.5000.0) gdk-sharp (2.8.0.0) Mono.Posix (1.0.5000.0) gnome-vfs-sharp (2.8.0.0) dbus-sharp (0.60.0.0) System (1.0.5000.0) atk-sharp (2.8.0.0) gtk-sharp (2.8.0.0) glib-sharp (2.8.0.0) gnome-sharp (2.8.0.0) f-spot (0.0.0.0) mscorlib (1.0.5000.0) Platform Information: Linux 2.6.15-25-386 i686 unknown GNU/Linux Disribution Information: [/etc/debian_version] testing/unstable [/etc/lsb-release] DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=6.06 DISTRIB_CODENAME=dapper DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 6.06 LTS" Dotan Cohen http:.//what-is-what.com From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 10:17:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694843B03A3 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:17:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24779-10 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:17:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33DCF3B03AD for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:17:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id t5so291232wxc for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.26.17 with SMTP id 17mr685481wxz; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.80.10 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:17:26 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: "Warren Baird" Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag In-Reply-To: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.201 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.122, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_XM=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.201 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:17:28 -0000 On 24/06/06, Warren Baird wrote: > There's no mechanism to do this automatically - however, there are some > patches for bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 that > will make this relatively easy --- the patch I submitted against the bug > will take simple xmp-like "sidecar" files at import and create tags for > them. > > Basically you need to write a script that creates for every file > foo.jpg, a file called foo.jpg.xmp - the contents should look like this: > > xmlns:rdf='http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#' > xmlns:iX='http://ns.adobe.com/iX/1.0/' > xmlns:dc='http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/'> > > > > Tag 1 > Tag 2 > ... > Tag N > > > > > > Then with my patch, when you do the import, the tags will be created (if > necessary), and attached to each photo appropriately. > > Hope this helps. > > Warren Great work, Warren. Could you please explain the XML in a bit more detail? Specifically, I'd need to add tags for Keywords, People, Caption/Title, Description/Comments, and Places. Just as an example, how would the XML appear for a photo with: Keywords "key1" and "key2" People "person1", "person2", "person3" Caption "This is the Caption" Description "A short description." Place "place1" If I can see that, then I'm pretty sure that I can figure out the rest. Also, how do I patch F-spot? I am not a developer, and I've no experience in the matter. Thank you. Dotan Cohen From stephane@delcroix.org Fri Jun 30 10:33:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7D23B013F for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:33:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25674-06 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:33:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 618113B021F for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:33:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20700 invoked by uid 503); 30 Jun 2006 14:34:38 -0000 Received: from b7.ovh.net (HELO mail156.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.57) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2006 14:34:38 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2006 14:32:36 -0000 Received: from 6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO wally.lln.newtec.be) (stef%verticalnight.com@81.246.73.6) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2006 14:32:34 -0000 Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag From: Stephane Delcroix To: F-Spot list In-Reply-To: <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:33:26 +0200 Message-Id: <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 81.246.73.6 (6.73-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/0.0/5.0/N X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.881 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.506, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, TW_XM=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -1.881 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:33:21 -0000 Dotan, You can't specify a tag hierarchy. (i.e. you can't say "People: me", "Place: home", you can just attach tags "me" and "home") But keep in mind that, in f-spot, all tags are unique. So, tag your images, and re-organize your tags once imported in f-spot. (move the tag "me" under "People" and "home" under "Places") about patching and compiling f-spot, look at: http://f-spot.org/How_To_Build On Fri, 2006-06-30 at 17:17 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 24/06/06, Warren Baird wrote: > > There's no mechanism to do this automatically - however, there are some > > patches for bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342137 that > > will make this relatively easy --- the patch I submitted against the bug > > will take simple xmp-like "sidecar" files at import and create tags for > > them. > > > > Basically you need to write a script that creates for every file > > foo.jpg, a file called foo.jpg.xmp - the contents should look like this: > > > > > xmlns:rdf='http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#' > > xmlns:iX='http://ns.adobe.com/iX/1.0/' > > xmlns:dc='http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/'> > > > > > > > > Tag 1 > > Tag 2 > > ... > > Tag N > > > > > > > > > > > > Then with my patch, when you do the import, the tags will be created (if > > necessary), and attached to each photo appropriately. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Warren > > Great work, Warren. Could you please explain the XML in a bit more > detail? Specifically, I'd need to add tags for Keywords, People, > Caption/Title, Description/Comments, and Places. Just as an example, > how would the XML appear for a photo with: > Keywords "key1" and "key2" > People "person1", "person2", "person3" > Caption "This is the Caption" > Description "A short description." > Place "place1" > > If I can see that, then I'm pretty sure that I can figure out the > rest. Also, how do I patch F-spot? I am not a developer, and I've no > experience in the matter. Thank you. > > Dotan Cohen > _______________________________________________ > F-spot-list mailing list > F-spot-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/f-spot-list > -- Stephane Delcroix stephane@delcroix.org From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 10:47:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC213B0245 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:47:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26647-01 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.236]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F083B021F for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i7so300108wra for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.118.13 with SMTP id q13mr664769wrc; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.80.10 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606300747p1a39c168ja4517be7a5190725@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:47:44 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: "Stephane Delcroix" Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag In-Reply-To: <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.383 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.017, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.383 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:47:46 -0000 On 30/06/06, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Dotan, > > You can't specify a tag hierarchy. (i.e. you can't say "People: me", > "Place: home", you can just attach tags "me" and "home") > But keep in mind that, in f-spot, all tags are unique. > So, tag your images, and re-organize your tags once imported in f-spot. > (move the tag "me" under "People" and "home" under "Places") > > about patching and compiling f-spot, look at: > http://f-spot.org/How_To_Build Thank you, Stephane. So, the tags I descibed would give: key1 key2 person1 person2 person3 This is the Caption A short description. place1 Or would there be a better way of going about it? Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 15:17:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942083B03B1 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:17:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08071-01 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:16:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D183B03AD for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:16:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i26so270827wxd for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.26.16 with SMTP id 16mr1133141wxz; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.80.10 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606301216i386302a5m16b35746c0e4ac52@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 22:16:56 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: "Stephane Delcroix" Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag In-Reply-To: <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.154 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_GD=0.077, TW_GT=0.077, TW_TK=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.154 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:17:00 -0000 On 30/06/06, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > about patching and compiling f-spot, look at: > http://f-spot.org/How_To_Build I get to the point of "./f-spot --uninstalled", and then Fspot opens and I get this: An unhandled exception was thrown: /home/dotancohen/unstable/f-spot/lib/f-spot/libfspot.so.0 in (wrapper managed-to-native) FSpot.ImageView:f_image_view_new () in <0x00032> FSpot.ImageView:.ctor () in <0x0001c> FSpot.PhotoImageView:.ctor (IBrowsableCollection query) in <0x00231> FSpot.PhotoView:.ctor (IBrowsableCollection query) in <0x0132e> MainWindow:.ctor (.Db db) in <0x0002a> FSpot.Core:get_MainWindow () in <0x0000c> FSpot.Core:Organize () in <0x00628> FSpot.Driver:Main (System.String[] args) .NET Version: 1.1.4322.2032 Assembly Version Information: FlickrNet (1.1.0.0) gconf-sharp (2.8.0.0) pango-sharp (2.8.0.0) SemWeb (0.5.0.2) glade-sharp (2.8.0.0) gtkhtml-sharp (2.8.0.0) System.Data (1.0.5000.0) Mono.Data.SqliteClient (1.0.5000.0) gdk-sharp (2.8.0.0) gnome-vfs-sharp (2.8.0.0) dbus-sharp (0.60.0.0) System (1.0.5000.0) Mono.Posix (1.0.5000.0) atk-sharp (2.8.0.0) gtk-sharp (2.8.0.0) glib-sharp (2.8.0.0) gnome-sharp (2.8.0.0) f-spot (0.0.0.0) mscorlib (1.0.5000.0) Platform Information: Linux 2.6.15-25-386 i686 unknown GNU/Linux Disribution Information: [/etc/debian_version] testing/unstable [/etc/lsb-release] DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=6.06 DISTRIB_CODENAME=dapper DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 6.06 LTS" Is it safe to continue? What must I do? Dotan Cohen http://ie-only.com From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 16:00:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2BE3B01BF for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:00:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10252-09 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:00:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.200]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462533B007B for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:00:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i26so275864wxd for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.20.18 with SMTP id 18mr1198588wxt; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.80.10 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606301300u5c5691b0w7bc65085b7e0a6fb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:00:27 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag In-Reply-To: <1151696141.6043.2.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301216i386302a5m16b35746c0e4ac52@mail.gmail.com> <1151696141.6043.2.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.282 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.118, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.282 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:00:30 -0000 On 30/06/06, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Personally, I never use f-spot --uninstalled... > > I always do a make install after make. but if you're already unsing > f-spot, take care of making a backup(of the photos.db) before running > the modified version. > > how to compile: > get f-spot cvs > cd f-spot > patch -p0 < thepatch.diff > ./autogen.sh > make > su > make install > exit > > Stephane > I already autogen'ed. Should I save the path at: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=66515&action=view in a file called thepatch.diff, then run "patch -p0 < thepatch.diff" and then ./autogen.sh again? Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://essentialinux.com From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 16:05:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49DA3B00F1 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:05:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10704-07 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:05:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD4B3B03AD for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:05:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i26so276436wxd for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.61.19 with SMTP id j19mr1209211wxa; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.80.10 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606301305t336161fx5efaf1ef836ed5cb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:05:32 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: "Stephane Delcroix" , "F-Spot list" Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag In-Reply-To: <1151696141.6043.2.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301216i386302a5m16b35746c0e4ac52@mail.gmail.com> <1151696141.6043.2.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.302 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.098, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.302 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:05:34 -0000 Well, I took the initiative and tried to apply the patch as I described before. This is what I got: dotancohen@ubuntu:~/development/f-spot/f-spot$ patch -p0 < thepatch.diff patching file ChangeLog Hunk #1 FAILED at 1. 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file ChangeLog.rej patching file src/FileImportBackend.cs Hunk #1 FAILED at 3. Hunk #2 succeeded at 14 (offset 1 line). Hunk #3 succeeded at 100 (offset 3 lines). Hunk #4 succeeded at 185 with fuzz 1 (offset 7 lines). Hunk #5 FAILED at 195. Hunk #6 succeeded at 269 (offset 23 lines). Hunk #7 succeeded at 285 (offset 23 lines). 2 out of 7 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file src/FileImportBackend.cs.rej patching file src/ImportCommand.cs Hunk #8 FAILED at 737. Hunk #9 succeeded at 764 (offset 5 lines). 1 out of 9 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file src/ImportCommand.cs.rej patching file src/Makefile.am patching file src/XmpTagsImporter.cs patching file src/XmpTagsMetadata.cs dotancohen@ubuntu:~/development/f-spot/f-spot$ cat ChangeLog.rej *************** *** 1,3 **** 2006-05-04 Arangel Angov * configure.in: Added 'mk.po' to ALL_LINGUAS --- 1,16 ---- + 2006-05-25 Bengt Thuree + + * src/XmpTagsMetadata.cs: Reads the XMP tags from a photo during import + + * src/XmpTagsImporter.cs: Creates XMP tags during import + + * src/FileImportBackend.cs: Calls XmpTagsImporter during import. + + * src/Makefile.am: Added XmpTagsMetadata.cs and XmpTagsImporter.cs + + * src/ImportCommand.cs: disable DisplayTags since otherwise we get a crash. + Cancel do not seem to remove all... + 2006-05-04 Arangel Angov * configure.in: Added 'mk.po' to ALL_LINGUAS dotancohen@ubuntu:~/development/f-spot/f-spot$ cat src/ImportCommand.cs.rej *************** *** 735,741 **** if (collection == null) return false; - DoImport (new FileImportBackend (store, pathimport, copy, recurse, null)); return false; } --- 737,743 ---- if (collection == null) return false; + DoImport (new FileImportBackend (this.Dialog, store, pathimport, copy, recurse, null)); return false; } dotancohen@ubuntu:~/development/f-spot/f-spot$ From bengt@thuree.com Fri Jun 30 17:36:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0314F3B03CD for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16392-05 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:36:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC643B036E for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:36:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c220-237-148-48.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.148.48]) (authenticated sender bangt) by mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5ULaQrw005604; Sat, 1 Jul 2006 07:36:26 +1000 Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag From: Bengt Thuree To: Dotan Cohen In-Reply-To: <880dece00606301305t336161fx5efaf1ef836ed5cb@mail.gmail.com> References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301216i386302a5m16b35746c0e4ac52@mail.gmail.com> <1151696141.6043.2.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301305t336161fx5efaf1ef836ed5cb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 07:36:24 +1000 Message-Id: <1151703385.5595.9.camel@workie.thuree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.536 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.064, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.536 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:36:40 -0000 On Fri, 2006-06-30 at 23:05 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Well, I took the initiative and tried to apply the patch as I > described before. This is what I got: > dotancohen@ubuntu:~/development/f-spot/f-spot$ patch -p0 < thepatch.diff > patching file ChangeLog > Hunk #1 FAILED at 1. > * configure.in: Added 'mk.po' to ALL_LINGUAS > --- 1,16 ---- > + 2006-05-25 Bengt Thuree > + > + * src/XmpTagsMetadata.cs: Reads the XMP tags from a photo during import Hi Dotan, Will Warrens patch apply directly? The one you took, was the latest patch which I had modified, and I am pretty certain Warrens suggestion should still work with this patch, but not 100% sure. The patch errors you get from my patch (and possible also something similar from Warrens patch) will have to be manually fixed by you. Key file to fix is ImportCommand.cs and FileImportBackend.cs You can simply open the CS file in an editor, and open the Patch.diff file in another editor, and manually go through every "patch" for the CS file. You will find most have been applied, but some are missing (reason is that the code have changed a bit in the general area where the patch should be applied so it can not be automatically applied). Stephane did mention it was simple to fix, so I have not done it. If you still have problems, let me know and I will try to update my patch. Warrens patch, if you want to try his is located here. (the first attachement to that bug) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=65865&action=view Regarding your Run time error, have you run F-Spot before? Do you have any existing photos? Have you tagged photos already with F-Spot? If not, try to delete the ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db and run it again. /Bengt From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 17:59:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4A43B01AB for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:59:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17934-03 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:59:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.239]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189533B00CA for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:59:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i7so351686wra for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.127.1 with SMTP id z1mr1089901wrc; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.26.6.5? ( [216.95.183.94]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 7sm1309896wrl.2006.06.30.14.59.23; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44A59EBA.5030105@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:59:22 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bengt Thuree Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301216i386302a5m16b35746c0e4ac52@mail.gmail.com> <1151696141.6043.2.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301305t336161fx5efaf1ef836ed5cb@mail.gmail.com> <1151703385.5595.9.camel@workie.thuree.com> In-Reply-To: <1151703385.5595.9.camel@workie.thuree.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.436 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.036, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.436 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:59:26 -0000 Bengt Thuree wrote:> > The patch errors you get from my patch (and possible also something > similar from Warrens patch) will have to be manually fixed by you. It's vaguely cruel and unusual to ask a non-dev type to fix these kinda things! Dotan - I assume you are working with current CVS head. I'll grab Bengt's patch now, and see if I can get a version of it that applies cleanly against current CVS. Hopefully I can post it in a few hours... Warren From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 18:08:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843B53B04C7 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:08:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18215-10 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:08:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.233]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF8843B048D for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:08:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i7so352488wra for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.83.8 with SMTP id g8mr1039146wrb; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.26.6.5? ( [216.95.183.94]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g7sm1719532wra.2006.06.30.15.08.26; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44A5A0D9.209@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:08:25 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dotan Cohen Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> <880dece00606300747p1a39c168ja4517be7a5190725@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <880dece00606300747p1a39c168ja4517be7a5190725@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.44 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.040, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -2.44 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 22:08:34 -0000 Dotan Cohen wrote: > Thank you, Stephane. So, the tags I descibed would give: >[...] > This is the Caption > A short description. >[...] Well - almost. Unfortunately, caption/descriptions aren't handled like tags. I've gotta leave work now - but I'll try to give a better description of how to specify those kinds of details later... Warren From dotancohen@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 18:18:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538703B04B5 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18807-04 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.204]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902073B04CC for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:18:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id t5so360191wxc for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.117.20 with SMTP id p20mr1390487wxc; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.80.10 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <880dece00606301518l7995415drf470a9a4c82e9955@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 01:18:50 +0300 From: "Dotan Cohen" To: "F-Spot list" Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag In-Reply-To: <1151703385.5595.9.camel@workie.thuree.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301216i386302a5m16b35746c0e4ac52@mail.gmail.com> <1151696141.6043.2.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301305t336161fx5efaf1ef836ed5cb@mail.gmail.com> <1151703385.5595.9.camel@workie.thuree.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.685 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.558, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, INFO_TLD=1.273, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -1.685 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 22:18:58 -0000 On 01/07/06, Bengt Thuree wrote: > Hi Dotan, > > Will Warrens patch apply directly? > The one you took, was the latest patch which I had modified, and I am > pretty certain Warrens suggestion should still work with this patch, but > not 100% sure. I rm'ed the two directories and started over with Warren's patch, that one also would not patch the current cvs. And I was unsuccessful about patching by hand. > The patch errors you get from my patch (and possible also something > similar from Warrens patch) will have to be manually fixed by you. > Key file to fix is ImportCommand.cs and FileImportBackend.cs > You can simply open the CS file in an editor, and open the Patch.diff > file in another editor, and manually go through every "patch" for the CS > file. You will find most have been applied, but some are missing (reason > is that the code have changed a bit in the general area where the patch > should be applied so it can not be automatically applied). Stephane did > mention it was simple to fix, so I have not done it. If you still have > problems, let me know and I will try to update my patch. > > Warrens patch, if you want to try his is located here. (the first > attachement to that bug) > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=65865&action=view > > Regarding your Run time error, have you run F-Spot before? Do you have > any existing photos? Have you tagged photos already with F-Spot? > If not, try to delete the ~/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db and run it again. The last time that I had run fspot I got a similar meassage. I posted it here to the list, as the error specifically requested me to do so, yesterday or today. Dotan Cohen http://auto-car.info From photogeekmtl@gmail.com Fri Jun 30 19:58:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310FE3B04EE for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:58:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22938-03 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:58:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.206]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52793B0297 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:58:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id o1so517713nzf for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.205.7 with SMTP id h7mr1647815qbq; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.6? ( [70.82.228.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q13sm1388110qbq.2006.06.30.16.58.37; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44A5BAB1.90209@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:58:41 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dotan Cohen Subject: Re: Import from disk and auto-tag References: <449D4FBA.3020606@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> <880dece00606300717w2ff05664xe8fce295fe11ae47@mail.gmail.com> <1151678007.6967.5.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301216i386302a5m16b35746c0e4ac52@mail.gmail.com> <1151696141.6043.2.camel@localhost> <880dece00606301305t336161fx5efaf1ef836ed5cb@mail.gmail.com> <1151703385.5595.9.camel@workie.thuree.com> <44A59EBA.5030105@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> In-Reply-To: <44A59EBA.5030105@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Baird X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.451 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.128, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_XM=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.451 X-Spam-Level: Cc: F-Spot list X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:58:40 -0000 Warren Baird wrote: > Dotan - I assume you are working with current CVS head. I'll grab > Bengt's patch now, and see if I can get a version of it that applies > cleanly against current CVS. I took a closer look, and my original patch applies fine --- I think Bengt is right, it's probably easier to just work with my patch... I also figured out how to import a comment. My patch takes the photoshop "Headline" tag and puts it in the comment field. to do this, you should add the photoshop namespace by adding the string xmlns:photoshop="http://ns.adobe.com/photoshop/1.0/" to your xmpmeta line, and then adding This is my commment inside your field. Here's a fully populated chunk as an example: This is where the Saskatchwan River forks in the north and south Saskatchwan rivers. The Forks sask 2005 Travel Great Hope this helps! Warren From douglasjanderson@gmail.com Wed Jun 28 00:20:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25DE3B0011 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:20:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26924-01 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:20:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE60A3B0005 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:20:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c29so1172503nfb for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.19.7 with SMTP id w7mr243516nfi; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.157.18 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4511e6e80606272119t4a9b151apc3c9522faa227b35@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:19:31 -0400 From: "Douglas Anderson" To: f-spot-list@gnome.org Subject: http://f-spot.org/To_Do MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_622_14034199.1151468371058" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.414 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, HTML_40_50=0.496, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Spam-Score: -0.414 X-Spam-Level: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 21:17:42 -0400 X-BeenThere: f-spot-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 04:20:36 -0000 ------=_Part_622_14034199.1151468371058 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On http://f-spot.org/To_Do > The current EXIF display is too EXIF specific and extremely dull, The > layout needs to be redone and the the Items should be ordered by relative > importance. First sentence should be cleaned up a little bit. Not sure if "Items" was capetalized on purpose? The current EXIF display is too EXIF specific and extremely dull, the layout > needs to be redone and the items should be ordered by relative importance. ------=_Part_622_14034199.1151468371058 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On http://f-spot.org/To_Do
The current EXIF display is too EXIF specific and extremely dull, The layout needs to be redone and the the Items should be ordered by relative importance.

First sentence should be cleaned up a little bit. Not sure if "Items" was capetalized on purpose?

The current EXIF display is too EXIF specific and extremely dull, the layout needs to be redone and the items should be ordered by relative importance.

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