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Re: [Evolution] Keybinding bug
- From: Bonath Henry <henry mjp com>
- To: Johnny Chen <jychen1 hotmail com>
- Cc: malloryd asus net, evolution ximian com
- Subject: Re: [Evolution] Keybinding bug
- Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:42:43 -0500
EXACTLY!!!
This is what I'm talking about!
I am sooooo sick of Linux being only for the "elite"
For us to ever be the desktop OS of choice for Buisness and
Home-Users... we need something familiar, something easy to
install, set up, and to use.
Everything needs an Installer...
We *DO* want people to be able to use this right?
h
On 2001.03.27 11:15:37 -0500 Johnny Chen wrote:
> <html><DIV>
> <P>Duane-</P>
> <P>You're right, Evolution is not Outlook. But, on the other hand,
> I think that for Gnome/Linux to gain a true foothold on the business
> market, there needs to be an email client that can interface w/ Exchange
> and Lotus Notes (Boo! Hiss! I know I know). Its just
> the reality of it all. The average end user expects to be able to
> send tasks and meetings via Outlook and whatever customized setup there
> is in Lotus.</P>
> <P>Johnny Chen<BR><BR></P></DIV>
> <DIV></DIV>
> <DIV></DIV>----Original Message Follows----
> <DIV></DIV>From: Duane "C." Mallory <MALLORYD ASUS NET>
> <DIV></DIV>To: evolution ximian com
> <DIV></DIV>Subject: Re: [Evolution] Keybinding bug
> <DIV></DIV>Date: 27 Mar 2001 10:34:53 -0500
> <DIV></DIV>
> <DIV></DIV>Obviously, the point I was trying to make is being
> misunderstood. First,
> <DIV></DIV>I'm not sure how many people use Outlook - I imagine since M$
> shoves it
> <DIV></DIV>down everyone's throat that a good number of people do use it
> - that's
> <DIV></DIV>what WIndows is for, stifling choice. I've used Netscape for
> years, but
> <DIV></DIV>I don't expect Evolution to mimic it. This would be silly to
> even
> <DIV></DIV>expect. Also, I'm not saying that it shouldn't look like
> Outlook,
> <DIV></DIV>although the new stuff M$ is putting out (i.e Office 2000,
> etc.) looks
> <DIV></DIV>like it is being designed by a kid with a crayon. I am saying
> that you
> <DIV></DIV>don't take keybindings that are standard for a platform and
> bastardize
> <DIV></DIV>them to match another product/platform. The bottom line is
> this is NOT
> <DIV></DIV>Outlook - and it is not running on Windows. If I wanted
> nothing more
> <DIV></DIV>that Outlook, then I would just run WIndows.
> <DIV></DIV>
> <DIV></DIV>No flame intened - this is just my two cents.
> <DIV></DIV>
> <DIV></DIV>Best Regards,
> <DIV></DIV>
> <DIV></DIV>DCM
> <DIV></DIV>
> <DIV></DIV>
> <DIV></DIV>
> <DIV></DIV>On 27 Mar 2001 09:18:25 -0500, Bonath Henry wrote:
> <DIV></DIV>> Dude... You may have never used Outlook, but the majority
> of the People
> <DIV></DIV>> have.
> <DIV></DIV>> If you give them a piece of software they are not
> familiar with, sure they
> <DIV></DIV>> could
> <DIV></DIV>> spend the time to try and figure it out, but to make the
> interface
> <DIV></DIV>> familiar.
> <DIV></DIV>> The reason I was attracted to evolution in the forst
> place is because of
> <DIV></DIV>> it's
> <DIV></DIV>> Outlook-a-like-ness... because of the familiar interface.
> I don't have time
> <DIV></DIV>> to
> <DIV></DIV>> sit and look and figure out how to get my email... Or
> where to put my
> <DIV></DIV>> Contacts...
> <DIV></DIV>> And for more people to use this they need a familiar
> interface.
> <DIV></DIV>>
> <DIV></DIV>> h
> <DIV></DIV>>
> <DIV></DIV>>
> <DIV></DIV>> On 2001.03.27 06:42:29 -0500 Duane C. Mallory wrote:
> <DIV></DIV>> > Why are you guys so worried about making Evolution
> nothing more than an
> <DIV></DIV>> > Outlook clone. I don't use Evolution because it
> mimics Outlook - in
> <DIV></DIV>> > fact I have never used Outlook at all and never
> have. I think that
> <DIV></DIV>> > Evolution should honor the Gnome keybindings and
> other Gnome standards.
> <DIV></DIV>> >
> <DIV></DIV>> > The fact is, those who use Outlook will more than
> likely continue to use
> <DIV></DIV>> > Outlook. Those who want something better will use
> Evolution. Don't
> <DIV></DIV>> > make Evolution a clone, make it a leader.
> <DIV></DIV>> >
> <DIV></DIV>> > Best Regards,
> <DIV></DIV>> >
> <DIV></DIV>> > DCM
> <DIV></DIV>> >
> <DIV></DIV>> >
> <DIV></DIV>> > On 27 Mar 2001 12:24:42 +0200, Janne wrote:
> <DIV></DIV>> > > That is a very bad idea; all other GNOME
> programs use 'ctrl-q' as
> <DIV></DIV>> > > 'exit'. If you are very serious about outlook
> keybinding compatibility,
> <DIV></DIV>> > > make it a configuration option with the GNOME
> settings as default.
> <DIV></DIV>> > >
> <DIV></DIV>> > >
> <DIV></DIV>> > > On 27 Mar 2001 10:55:45 +0930, Not Zed wrote:
> <DIV></DIV>> > > > Our resident outlook watcher has
> apparently rebound that key to "mark
> <DIV></DIV>> > as
> <DIV></DIV>> > > > read" for ui compatability reasons.
> <DIV></DIV>> > > >
> <DIV></DIV>> > > >
> <DIV></DIV>> > > > On 27 Mar 2001 01:59:57 +0200, Janne
> wrote:
> <DIV></DIV>> > > > > There is a small bug in the last few
> snapshots, where 'ctrl-q' is
> <DIV></DIV>> > no
> <DIV></DIV>> > > > > longer bound to exit. Everybody
> probably knows about this, but as
> <DIV></DIV>> > it's
> <DIV></DIV>> > > > > been there for a few days and
> nobody's semm to have mentioned it, I
> <DIV></DIV>> > > > > thought I would.
> <DIV></DIV>> > > > >
> <DIV></DIV>> > > > >
> <DIV></DIV>> > > > > --
> <DIV></DIV>> > > > > Mr. Jan Morén Dept. of Cognitive
> Science
> <DIV></DIV>> > > > > Tel. +46-046 222 8588 Kungshuset,
> Lund
> <DIV></DIV>> > > > > Fax. +46-046 222 9758 S-222 22 Lund,
> Sweden
> <DIV></DIV>> > > > >
> <DIV></DIV>> > > > >
> <DIV></DIV>> > > > >
> <DIV></DIV>> > > > >
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