From dsandras@seconix.com Sat Dec 1 17:35:50 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A51760D1 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2018 17:35:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.499 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cktm-ud690VX for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2018 17:35:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ekiga.com (ekiga.net [86.64.162.35]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B05760C8 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2018 17:35:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alcor (254.185-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.241.185.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ekiga.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 68ACD67019E; Sat, 1 Dec 2018 18:35:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4a67168f9d9d515582e1d3e95ce93d60e6664b97.camel@seconix.com> From: Damien Sandras To: ekiga-list@gnome.org, ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2018 18:35:47 +0100 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-+afdbR9aGjC+dqNYpsUk" User-Agent: Evolution 3.30.2-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga.net discontinued X-BeenThere: ekiga-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Ekiga mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2018 17:35:50 -0000 --=-+afdbR9aGjC+dqNYpsUk Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Due to the lack of time, and to the last outages, I have taken the decision to discontinue EKIGA.NET before the end of the year. Thank you for your support during all those years. It has been a pleasure! -- Damien SANDRAS Ekiga Project http://www.ekiga.org --=-+afdbR9aGjC+dqNYpsUk Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,

Due to the lack of time, and to t= he last outages, I have taken the decision to discontinue EKIGA.NET before = the end of the year.

Thank you for your support du= ring all those years.

It has been a pleasure!
--
Damien SANDRAS

Ekiga Project
http://www.ekiga.o= rg
--=-+afdbR9aGjC+dqNYpsUk-- From bret.busby@gmail.com Sat Dec 1 22:15:42 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964F376114 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2018 22:15:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ieKTSnl0bCPq for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2018 22:15:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qt1-f182.google.com (mail-qt1-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C20F76109 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2018 22:15:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qt1-f182.google.com with SMTP id y20so9883575qtm.13 for ; Sat, 01 Dec 2018 14:15:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=hx37wX6Ov6EgnhNIHeqxxdm1n/Vtg6tWbbR3HPmTjjs=; b=NjnPDtTxBpU/fjnZthl8x5eCnZbnsyp4BaK2/zbqx2GTSVHvHXUsf+KtuYZTZpB7SQ aQfOk3KZmn9YlV0KDWl0DbZTyTcSxQ9voxLBQfNCt8WnsBAEU15+9Nn1CHObM2i3v7AW aPJeH8v3eN0NsSG5HcYDjRvAIhS5BPJX7JVgv0b3NKjVPbQ57jAf8O7gaQCg+lEfFVw/ BzqsZMceECG3Zc66W2hYdsgw/la6F6sF6EhQeDak6+qXjqhkzXIvt3ZSFfPktoBo03wk 3FZWM4evHkOHAYmaQrWB/EQOQ6+MdVmleticprq13CFyDLcosvq0rLEdngkLn53ljqW/ VRBA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=hx37wX6Ov6EgnhNIHeqxxdm1n/Vtg6tWbbR3HPmTjjs=; b=kJF5vscBgbtj0VvAWT0SDqekUWVvASREP5skM7kByqNDaFhIfVPEFMfQnTMCMe3LAw SHw+DeVC2gLecAQpoq7HPEks0rJ0Jaq8WkmF9NEfCtggIIHbbrreLjLYOAHg6tFavYWS /yB9c18n5z+bj4CWHyOlqzv/8Xvg1toE8JE9DPmVnSIY4jCIOew8kSdWmOxxna/BI8km Ihb77geyrEfSVaA/U1OHOBFty0t1pAQtHF6/EJOLV3Jv8XuvoY4WfNeiQKzJo7I1Ecov 8BV24jfnskM6FGLU3BbT8JfcOHXDxo6HOUAD2pjhyKXJIdgja6rYQ5PYDzB5ktLeE9qh m8pQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWY3Z92m6DkKBjhe5+vJqfBJWVsbRXfyw6ligvD/mmFclTplwhUu W5MnadpBK3XYrhsxZ5EF4XQOqO5cAa98fWbdEODIQLxO X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/XX9UrujmhynefphbhSGGRR3NsD+MEOFCBXjBnBRuG74c7U8+8hYsM9Vm5hwRa4D++i8EUJfgPEIcJGAVkHde0= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:3d51:: with SMTP id u17mr10584223qtf.127.1543702540457; Sat, 01 Dec 2018 14:15:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ac8:2c16:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Dec 2018 14:15:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4a67168f9d9d515582e1d3e95ce93d60e6664b97.camel@seconix.com> References: <4a67168f9d9d515582e1d3e95ce93d60e6664b97.camel@seconix.com> From: Bret Busby Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2018 06:15:39 +0800 Message-ID: To: Ekiga mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga.net discontinued X-BeenThere: ekiga-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Ekiga mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2018 22:15:42 -0000 On 02/12/2018, Damien Sandras wrote: > Hi all, > > Due to the lack of time, and to the last outages, I have taken the > decision to discontinue EKIGA.NET before the end of the year. > > Thank you for your support during all those years. > > It has been a pleasure! > -- > > > > > > > > Damien SANDRAS > > > > Ekiga Project > > http://www.ekiga.org > > > > Hello. I am wondering whether, given that Ekiga is said to be open source, rather than, as its owner, simply shutting it down, it would not be more appropriate and consistent with the (perceived) nature of open source,, to seek a new group of people, to take it on, for the sake of its continuance. More and more good Linux software, has been abandoned/discontinued, and, with MS apparently determined to progressively eliminate skype (MS has been p[rogressively hobbling skype, since MS bought it out), a developing technology in IT - the means od making video calls, amongst other uses, is being eliminated. It is a bit like, if Alexander Bell had decided that he had had enough of trying to develop telephony, and said "Stuff it - I've had enough - I am going to put it all into boxes and bury it.", rather than passing it on to others to continue the development. Imagine what the world would be like, if we had not had telephony. Imagine what the wotld could be like, if we would have video calls and videoconferencing, as commonplace, as telephony has been. Here in Australia, members of the federal parliament, fly thousands of kilometres, to sit in the parliament (when they can be bothered turning up for "work" - the federal parliament is apparently scheduled to meet, for only ten days, in the next eight months, while its members hibernate (and, hide from each other) ), and, whilst the Australian federal partliament does not want to progress from the stone age, if its members used virtual attendance, through videoconferencing, it could save the country a fortune, and, show that Australia is not really such a stupid and backward country, that it appears to be (we have a federal government, that is obsessed with burning as much cpoall as possible, as it is worried about the increasing chill in the air). So, while MS is doing as much as it can, to obstruct communications, with its progressive hobbling of skype, if Ekiga could be turned into a community project, and, thence, continue to be developed and maintained, instead of being abandoned, like so much other Linux software, we could have hope, that communications technology will continue to advance, instead of being abandoned and left in unusable pieces on the side of the road.. So, rather than simply abandoning Ekiga, I ask whether it could be offered as a community project, so as to provide for its continued development, maintenance, and, support, rather than simply abandoning it. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... From ford.davidj@gmail.com Sat Dec 1 23:13:23 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C3676114 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2018 23:13:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c4bWOZjrZyqi for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2018 23:13:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io1-f47.google.com (mail-io1-f47.google.com [209.85.166.47]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D5DC76109 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2018 23:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io1-f47.google.com with SMTP id v10so7504527ios.13 for ; Sat, 01 Dec 2018 15:13:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Qj6Lf3HxQNYthLVhHqvsCga9p1s7rnl3um65rg9PlFI=; b=JkdWjtAXa2rGtsG7JSkU53b/Zua7W5YnEl9gZiuubU5sqAWAuIL0oR+gLpkoaV4iYc 0IWvtVjXML7OnjzwldfrfM7efy7JwA2lC960vg9kDEVl6PcPdqJoA48KmFWjQRjlbTWY +lvKSRTIFGue7bZopw1pLqrnSPviMrVt1G7EGtfX1GeaRcmrp8hnCMRv5p15mu0KnLAX 4nepxJ+JpbZUYbYuZt5RD8u6j+3YthD+hwhqK4N3XEIxXgeL5GSTXxe1HWLppgS6Lj/N Vygg07oeX4OqAP4soNExVr1Ja019pbLa9mUGUpbYBa0bIV8hN6i1PnbmSLuLxtnQAiRH 7t9A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Qj6Lf3HxQNYthLVhHqvsCga9p1s7rnl3um65rg9PlFI=; b=DxuwPkBs3XVVxdVxFDm3qRS5qqLN0YHq+zV1UmVXsFFiSD3LYfEG9eL2naxW+/csNU F3wNYk2EqMLYjOEoN5creEi4LaaPyzvWuhFPcdGGD5EWTHu9CYgUdZEg8CAVqJG5wKOx exw0eXklzKlk/3WbVd2xdmEeuKRfoiMxPh7FJh1qFj8J79zSgvjZkHd5aUegZby1yBQ7 qm1Ytx4ivXC78mohR2EaGuv+1i7ATFAYH5Ua7WoIIRXzrS9lWk2n3oO6WRLQDg6ou/2+ fmb+7otvm0sPm0mAZiV8JAiD1uZy5D/y2AhsSFlBo1RyxA9LG7MklbvBdG2VW5X0XrHj 7CXA== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWYBmFvYUoFFssdVOqA0hhVUoZDShNVXyuYKh/s90kVNdUrW+AEH TdM+crJIYfdYkKsNSSqYXEPmVphpcfpIr8YDynqW9Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/Xep31k6QN7ytqSJxhJLFWCu5aTKNTdaV5go1eTXdnUxZAHYJLxLH2awUMKKETGSBVZghT8ogS4Ocd+djA+6jo= X-Received: by 2002:a5e:8c1a:: with SMTP id n26mr10315866ioj.122.1543706001517; Sat, 01 Dec 2018 15:13:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4a67168f9d9d515582e1d3e95ce93d60e6664b97.camel@seconix.com> In-Reply-To: <4a67168f9d9d515582e1d3e95ce93d60e6664b97.camel@seconix.com> From: David Ford Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 23:13:09 +0000 Message-ID: To: Ekiga mailing list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000dbaf6b057bfe0f74" Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga.net discontinued X-BeenThere: ekiga-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Ekiga mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2018 23:13:23 -0000 --000000000000dbaf6b057bfe0f74 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thanks for all the work you put in over the years Damien - sometimes it is best to allow the world to move on without us. There is a tide in the affairs of man - and all that Shakespeare stuff. Sad to see it go - but you can only do so much. Thanks again David Bedtime Stories (4 - 8 years) http://www.everopenstorybook.com Nature https://www.ja2da.com Random Thoughts https://medium.com/@ford.davidj/latest On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 at 17:36, Damien Sandras wrote: > Hi all, > > Due to the lack of time, and to the last outages, I have taken the > decision to discontinue EKIGA.NET before the end of the year. > > Thank you for your support during all those years. > > It has been a pleasure! > > -- > > Damien SANDRAS > > *Ekiga Project* > http://www.ekiga.org > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list --000000000000dbaf6b057bfe0f74 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tha= nks for all the work you put in over the years Damien - sometimes it is bes= t to allow the world to move on without us. There is a tide in the affairs = of man - and all that Shakespeare stuff.
Sad to see it go - but you can only do so much.

Thanks again
David


On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 at 17:36, Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> wrote:
Hi= all,

Due to the lack of time, and to the last out= ages, I have taken the decision to discontinue EKIGA.NET before the end of the year.

=
Thank you for your support during all those years.
It has been a pleasure!
--
=20 =20 Damien SANDRAS

Ekiga Project
= http://www.ekiga.org
_______________________________________________
ekiga-list mailing list
ekiga-list@gnome.= org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list=
--000000000000dbaf6b057bfe0f74-- From SRS0=xZs3m=OL==stuart@gathman.org Sun Dec 2 01:44:57 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD2F76114 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2018 01:44:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.002 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QVviV9Rga7qU for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2018 01:44:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 1711 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at restaurant.gnome.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2018 01:44:56 UTC Received: from mail.gathman.org (mail.gathman.org [70.184.247.44]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67ADE760F9 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2018 01:44:55 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.gathman.org; iprev=pass policy.iprev="2001:470:8:809::2" (wiki.gathman.org); auth=pass (CRAM-MD5 sslbits=256) smtp.auth=stuart DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gathman.org; i=@gathman.org; q=dns/txt; s=default; t=1543713381; h=date : from : to : subject : in-reply-to : message-id : references : mime-version : content-type : date : from : subject; bh=pr8T8FGX2E/E1H5tLbrh1WQBTx40MjsgEJcjUME4Qtk=; b=Jz0KkChYYi7q+bwzmWzM+oBhTbdTSxiVemiXhod3ZUWa4NtGHN6jTtMl oC4KeQJNU4vJZlf/0IfMiztpVLJ/FgL5gaAeBblH+CUxNsxIjJwQSENtja 5vsObtKXYxOIa0qlIGJdbSO542LNAqRzbONADMVi9lTgyahSIi0sGmlws= Received: from wiki.gathman.org (wiki.gathman.org [IPv6:2001:470:8:809::2]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.gathman.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id wB21GIDC021362 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2018 20:16:21 -0500 Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 20:16:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Stuart D. Gathman" To: Bret Busby via ekiga-list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4a67168f9d9d515582e1d3e95ce93d60e6664b97.camel@seconix.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (LRH 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga.net discontinued X-BeenThere: ekiga-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Ekiga mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2018 01:44:58 -0000 On Sun, 2 Dec 2018, Bret Busby via ekiga-list wrote: > On 02/12/2018, Damien Sandras wrote: >> Due to the lack of time, and to the last outages, I have taken the >> decision to discontinue EKIGA.NET before the end of the year. > I am wondering whether, given that Ekiga is said to be open source, > rather than, as its owner, simply shutting it down, it would not be > more appropriate and consistent with the (perceived) nature of open > source,, to seek a new group of people, to take it on, for the sake of > its continuance. Ekiga.net is not needed for peer to peer calls. It is only to help out unfortunate souls still in IP4 NAT jail because they haven't learned how to join the IP6 world. ISPs will never offer IP6. You have to peer with friends and/or sign up with a general tunnel broker like he.net. There are other sites offering free IP4 SIP call brokering (generally charging for POTS connections to make their money). I moved to Linphone (another open source SIP client) because it supported IPv6. Peer to peer SIP really requires IPv6. The Cjdns IPv6 mesh VPN allows authenticated, encrypted peer to peer calls anywhere in the world without any exchange of certs, etc, and a device keeps its IP as it moves around. The IPv6 is a hash of the public key of the node. Even without a VPN, IPv6 allows direct peer to peer without needing a public IP4 or a centralized site to help with all the NAT workarounds. Ekiga does a number of things better than linphone (e.g. addressbook). But the lack of IPv6 was a deal killer. There were efforts to add IPv6 support to ekiga, but never finished that I was aware of. Actually, IPv6 support in Linphone is a pain - it can't listen on IP4 (for commercial SIP to POTS services) and IP6 simultaneously. You have to switch back and forth in preferences. Ekiga could do it so much better. -- Stuart D. Gathman "Confutatis maledictis, flamis acribus addictis" - background song for a Microsoft sponsored "Where do you want to go from here?" commercial. From ahumanexistence@gmail.com Sun Dec 2 02:18:58 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E43476114 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2018 02:18:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HI9djrmi8Yvg for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2018 02:18:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-it1-f175.google.com (mail-it1-f175.google.com [209.85.166.175]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A22AC760F9 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2018 02:18:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-it1-f175.google.com with SMTP id p197so3958585itp.0 for ; Sat, 01 Dec 2018 18:18:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Zv0FESOxlg5xrfCd+QpHGBuG/c/M+i8rAG2uTrRazts=; b=p81BM5J9AX1FsnnlhF9OltkgXTp1YSzaxXjgB9dIwvcoEgoYLH3g1+mXijQ3iWpBq4 IoZtTfc7oVwx7TyutR7DCpffkrSfwrFBvUq1wwwGtrUjGmo6uHsMFwuCEwqtxYuPl8qE 3wiXpWFv9JaCdo65E/gFgZp+tfUk5p3cRIGTjIsy1fUtYxljU79TdUnVzhpokNbQgs4u WHkggHVqMkISlBMMPSZKcNiaX3LDBs6m+IL1IgVT5MdfJgJWws8+W0rZfOszdiO/lMzS 43pLH4WtoAL/pOlIQfNs9ix08ZjfHgwXBeFfQWgpmew3q6wvophUPMfwunITsXxN1Dmf VDnA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Zv0FESOxlg5xrfCd+QpHGBuG/c/M+i8rAG2uTrRazts=; b=AE7EXQYdcQSw91UdMw6tlnZfODm+cHJ5n9zh405GLYEHZtaXMgZe/2aSLfKl/tuK5t IwcFHebAKTWUQuaq9On/3ecpGjEmtsBq0mgK8hWUhzMRO/A7owIQ9lvrWtcCsbxWK7xO em79WBkoIKX6vn2hboHkkM7FwV/bj/GmVd7R3y/n9EzMCdEF/bF7JaafR8fMOQgAIZ3I 34aV83jI0Sq/KYPa+AUuvy1yJPJibLcEbe8EoGUeCY/kp/bAcKPfDb/tNLejMVsn9nIA vBwFjYP2qBG9Ov3y9qI6H9SGQK8TEBH9BzBjdFQZPbMn8yFbI7bSQJmnOzPg+0S1EabF +l1g== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWbUB/wehnao6MUThJiS3yk4j0tnU0+xHhDgu2KjQzNadAVTNra2 xUirDuqTnQygLJrO6bsk6N/+73XH2+E0NxIdv7rM6w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/UVI+bab6+gabhGlYXRgsIn0rHU+UybR6vWFFosJR8GW0F+0y7uvW6EtustksJScKjoh+n+2xOnLJcyh+B1sO4= X-Received: by 2002:a24:28c5:: with SMTP id h188mr3842910ith.97.1543717136323; Sat, 01 Dec 2018 18:18:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4a67168f9d9d515582e1d3e95ce93d60e6664b97.camel@seconix.com> In-Reply-To: From: A Human Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 21:19:58 -0500 Message-ID: To: Ekiga mailing list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008b5932057c00a732" Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga.net discontinued X-BeenThere: ekiga-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Ekiga mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2018 02:18:58 -0000 --0000000000008b5932057c00a732 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable how can i unsubscribe from this list pls Le sam. 1 d=C3=A9c. 2018 =C3=A0 20:45, Stuart D. Gathman a =C3=A9crit : > On Sun, 2 Dec 2018, Bret Busby via ekiga-list wrote: > > > On 02/12/2018, Damien Sandras wrote: > >> Due to the lack of time, and to the last outages, I have taken the > >> decision to discontinue EKIGA.NET before the end of the year. > > > I am wondering whether, given that Ekiga is said to be open source, > > rather than, as its owner, simply shutting it down, it would not be > > more appropriate and consistent with the (perceived) nature of open > > source,, to seek a new group of people, to take it on, for the sake of > > its continuance. > > Ekiga.net is not needed for peer to peer calls. It is only to help > out unfortunate souls still in IP4 NAT jail because they haven't learned > how to join the IP6 world. ISPs will never offer IP6. You have to > peer with friends and/or sign up with a general tunnel broker like > he.net. > > There are other sites offering free IP4 SIP call brokering (generally > charging for POTS connections to make their money). > > I moved to Linphone (another open source SIP client) because it > supported IPv6. Peer to peer SIP really requires IPv6. > > The Cjdns IPv6 mesh VPN allows authenticated, encrypted peer to peer call= s > anywhere in the world without any exchange of certs, etc, and a device > keeps its IP as it moves around. The IPv6 is a hash of the public key > of the node. > > Even without a VPN, IPv6 allows direct peer to peer without needing > a public IP4 or a centralized site to help with all the NAT workarounds. > > Ekiga does a number of things better than linphone (e.g. addressbook). > But the lack of IPv6 was a deal killer. There were efforts to > add IPv6 support to ekiga, but never finished that I was aware of. > Actually, IPv6 support in Linphone is a pain - it can't listen on > IP4 (for commercial SIP to POTS services) and IP6 simultaneously. > You have to switch back and forth in preferences. Ekiga could do it so > much better. > > -- > Stuart D. Gathman > "Confutatis maledictis, flamis acribus addictis" - background song for > a Microsoft sponsored "Where do you want to go from here?" commercial. > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > --0000000000008b5932057c00a732 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
how= can i unsubscribe from this list pls

Le=C2=A0sam. 1 d=C3=A9c. 2018 =C3=A0=C2=A020:45, = Stuart D. Gathman <stuart@gathman.= org> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
On = Sun, 2 Dec 2018, Bret Busby via ekiga-list wrote:

> On 02/12/2018, Damien Sandras <dsandras@seconix.com> wrote:
>> Due to the lack of time, and to the last outages, I have taken the=
>> decision to discontinue EKIGA.NET before the end of the year.

> I am wondering whether, given that Ekiga is said to be open source, > rather than, as its owner, simply shutting it down, it would not be > more appropriate and consistent with the (perceived) nature of open > source,, to seek a new group of people, to take it on, for the sake of=
> its continuance.

Ekiga.net is not needed for peer to peer calls.=C2=A0 It is only to help out unfortunate souls still in IP4 NAT jail because they haven't learne= d
how to join the IP6 world.=C2=A0 ISPs will never offer IP6.=C2=A0 You have = to
peer with friends and/or sign up with a general tunnel broker like
he.net.<= br>
There are other sites offering free IP4 SIP call brokering (generally
charging for POTS connections to make their money).

I moved to Linphone (another open source SIP client) because it
supported IPv6.=C2=A0 Peer to peer SIP really requires IPv6.

The Cjdns IPv6 mesh VPN allows authenticated, encrypted peer to peer calls =
anywhere in the world without any exchange of certs, etc, and a device
keeps its IP as it moves around.=C2=A0 The IPv6 is a hash of the public key=
of the node.

Even without a VPN, IPv6 allows direct peer to peer without needing
a public IP4 or a centralized site to help with all the NAT workarounds.
Ekiga does a number of things better than linphone (e.g. addressbook).
But the lack of IPv6 was a deal killer.=C2=A0 There were efforts to
add IPv6 support to ekiga, but never finished that I was aware of.
Actually, IPv6 support in Linphone is a pain - it can't listen on
IP4 (for commercial SIP to POTS services) and IP6 simultaneously.
You have to switch back and forth in preferences.=C2=A0 Ekiga could do it s= o
much better.

--
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Stuart D. Gathman <stuart@gathman.org&= gt;
"Confutatis maledictis, flamis acribus addictis" - background son= g for
a Microsoft sponsored "Where do you want to go from here?" commer= cial.
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--0000000000008b5932057c00a732-- From dsandras@seconix.com Sun Dec 2 02:20:30 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90BBA76114 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2018 02:20:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lMCzV8Lv_fCi for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2018 02:20:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ekiga.com (ekiga.net [86.64.162.35]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0E7760F9 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2018 02:20:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alcor (254.185-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.241.185.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ekiga.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CF82D67019E; Sun, 2 Dec 2018 03:20:25 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <51018cbaa480308b214f3e4b127454dfef67b4cb.camel@seconix.com> From: Damien Sandras To: Ekiga mailing list Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2018 03:20:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <4a67168f9d9d515582e1d3e95ce93d60e6664b97.camel@seconix.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-sEzPNzmaNWFgNPnCEui9" User-Agent: Evolution 3.30.2-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga.net discontinued X-BeenThere: ekiga-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Ekiga mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2018 02:20:30 -0000 --=-sEzPNzmaNWFgNPnCEui9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Bret, Thank you for your email and support. You are absolutely right... Actually, Ekiga, the software, is not discontinued. Ekiga.net, the SIP platform that goes with it, will be shutting down by the end of the year. However, actually, the state of the software is not better. I have actively maintained ekiga during more or less 12 to 13 years. A new version is nearly ready (without instant messaging support anymore, and without STUN/NAT support). A few years ago, I asked for help to finish it. It was a call to developers, but nobody answered. Having to maintain the software, the SIP platform, the websites, the manuals, the documentation for that new release alone is simply not possible. It would be if I was unemployed. But in that case, the "free" as "free beer" aspect of Open Source would be annoying for me :-) So well, if developers want to keep working on the Ekiga software, they are welcome. The code is in GNOME's git, available for everyone! Le dimanche 02 décembre 2018 à 06:15 +0800, Bret Busby via ekiga-list a écrit : > On 02/12/2018, Damien Sandras wrote: > > Hi all, > > Due to the lack of time, and to the last outages, I have taken > > thedecision to discontinue EKIGA.NET before the end of the year. > > Thank you for your support during all those years. > > It has been a pleasure!-- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Damien SANDRAS > > > > > > Ekiga Project > > http://www.ekiga.org > > > > > > > > > > Hello. > I am wondering whether, given that Ekiga is said to be open > source,rather than, as its owner, simply shutting it down, it would > not bemore appropriate and consistent with the (perceived) nature of > opensource,, to seek a new group of people, to take it on, for the > sake ofits continuance. > More and more good Linux software, has been > abandoned/discontinued,and, with MS apparently determined to > progressively eliminate skype(MS has been p[rogressively hobbling > skype, since MS bought it out), adeveloping technology in IT - the > means od making video calls, amongstother uses, is being eliminated. > It is a bit like, if Alexander Bellhad decided that he had had enough > of trying to develop telephony, andsaid "Stuff it - I've had enough - > I am going to put it all into boxesand bury it.", rather than passing > it on to others to continue thedevelopment. > Imagine what the world would be like, if we had not had > telephony.Imagine what the wotld could be like, if we would have > video calls andvideoconferencing, as commonplace, as telephony has > been. > Here in Australia, members of the federal parliament, fly thousands > ofkilometres, to sit in the parliament (when they can be > botheredturning up for "work" - the federal parliament is apparently > scheduledto meet, for only ten days, in the next eight months, while > itsmembers hibernate (and, hide from each other) ), and, whilst > theAustralian federal partliament does not want to progress from > thestone age, if its members used virtual attendance, > throughvideoconferencing, it could save the country a fortune, and, > show thatAustralia is not really such a stupid and backward country, > that itappears to be (we have a federal government, that is obsessed > withburning as much cpoall as possible, as it is worried about > theincreasing chill in the air). > So, while MS is doing as much as it can, to obstruct > communications,with its progressive hobbling of skype, if Ekiga could > be turned intoa community project, and, thence, continue to be > developed andmaintained, instead of being abandoned, like so much > other Linuxsoftware, we could have hope, that communications > technology willcontinue to advance, instead of being abandoned and > left in unusablepieces on the side of the road.. > So, rather than simply abandoning Ekiga, I ask whether it could > beoffered as a community project, so as to provide for its > continueddevelopment, maintenance, and, support, rather than simply > abandoningit. -- Damien SANDRAS Ekiga Project http://www.ekiga.org --=-sEzPNzmaNWFgNPnCEui9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Bret,

Thank you for your email and sup= port.

You are absolutely right...

Actually, Ekiga, the software, is not discontinued. Ekiga.net, the= SIP platform that goes with it, will be shutting down by the end of the ye= ar.

However, actually, the state of the software i= s not better. I have actively maintained ekiga during more or less 12 to 13= years. A new version is nearly ready (without instant messaging support an= ymore, and without STUN/NAT support). A few years ago, I asked for help to = finish it. It was a call to developers, but nobody answered.

=
Having to maintain the software, the SIP platform, the websites,= the manuals, the documentation for that new release alone is simply not po= ssible. It would be if I was unemployed. But in that case, the "free" as "f= ree beer" aspect of Open Source would be annoying for me :-)

=
So well, if developers want to keep working on the Ekiga softwar= e, they are welcome. The code is in GNOME's git, available for everyone!

Le dimanche 02 d=C3=A9cembre 2018 =C3=A0 06:15 +0800= , Bret Busby via ekiga-list a =C3=A9crit :
On 02/12/2018, Damien Sandras <
dsandras@seconix.com
> wrote:
Hi all,

Due to the la=
ck of time, and to the last outages, I have taken the
decision to=
 discontinue EKIGA.NET before the end of the year.

Thank you for your support during all those years.

It has been a pleasure!
--


<= pre>




<= pre>Damien SANDRAS



E=
kiga Project

http=
://www.ekiga.org






Hello.

I am wondering whether, given that Ekiga is said to be open=
 source,
rather than, as its owner, simply shutting it down, it w=
ould not be
more appropriate and consistent with the (perceived) =
nature of open
source,, to seek a new group of people, to take it=
 on, for the sake of
its continuance.

Mo=
re and more good  Linux software, has been abandoned/discontinued,
and, with MS apparently determined to progressively eliminate skype= 
(MS has been p[rogressively hobbling skype, since MS bought it out), a=

developing technology in IT - the means od making video calls, a=
mongst
other uses, is being eliminated. It is a bit like, if Alex=
ander Bell
had decided that he had had enough of trying to develo=
p telephony, and
said "Stuff it - I've had enough - I am going to=
 put it all into boxes
and bury it.", rather than passing it on t=
o others to continue the
development.

Im=
agine what the world would be like, if we had not had telephony.
=
Imagine what the wotld could be like, if we would have video calls and
videoconferencing, as commonplace, as telephony has been.
<=
br>
Here in Australia, members of the federal parliament, fly tho=
usands of
kilometres, to sit in the parliament (when they can be =
bothered
turning up for "work" - the federal parliament is appare=
ntly scheduled
to meet, for only ten days, in the next eight mont=
hs, while its
members hibernate (and, hide from each other) ), an=
d, whilst the
Australian federal partliament does not want to pro=
gress from the
stone age, if its members used virtual attendance,=
 through
videoconferencing, it could save the country a fortune, =
and, show that
Australia is not really such a stupid and backward=
 country, that it
appears to be (we have a federal government, th=
at is obsessed with
burning as much cpoall as possible, as it is =
worried about the
increasing chill in the air).

So, while MS is doing as much as it can, to obstruct communications=
,
with its progressive hobbling of skype, if Ekiga could be turne=
d into
a community project, and, thence, continue to be developed=
 and
maintained, instead of being abandoned, like so much other L=
inux
software, we could have hope, that communications technology=
 will
continue to advance, instead of being abandoned  and left i=
n unusable
pieces on the side of the road..

<=
pre>So, rather than simply abandoning Ekiga, I ask whether it could be
offered as a community project, so as to provide for its continued
development, maintenance, and, support, rather than simply abandoni=
ng
it.

-- 



  
  


Damien SANDRAS



Ekiga Project 

http://www.ekiga.o=
rg





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Am 2018-12-01 um 18:35 schrieb Damien Sandras:
> Hi all,
> 
> Due to the lack of time, and to the last outages, I have taken the
> decision to discontinue EKIGA.NET before the end of the year.
> 
> Thank you for your support during all those years.
> 
> It has been a pleasure!
I just wanted to say thank you for keeping the ekiga.net service up
and running all those years!

Gerhard
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Hi,

Le jeudi 06 décembre 2018 à 22:55 +0100, Gerhard Pircher a écrit :
> Am 2018-12-01 um 18:35 schrieb Damien Sandras:
> > Due to the lack of time, and to the last outages, I have taken
> > thedecision to discontinue EKIGA.NET before the end of the year.
> > Thank you for your support during all those years.
> > It has been a pleasure!
> I just wanted to say thank you for keeping the ekiga.net service
> upand running all those years!

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Hi,

Le jeudi 06 d=C3=A9cembre 2018 =C3=A0=
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Am 2018-12-01 um 18:35 schrieb Damien Sandras:
Due to the lack of time, and to the last outages, I ha=
ve taken the
decision to discontinue EKIGA.NET before the end of =
the year.

Thank you for your support during all th=
ose years.

It has been a pleasure!
I just wanted to say thank you for keeping the ekiga.net service up=

and running all those years!

Thank you for the nice words!

Best regards,
-- 
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>Due to the lack of time, and to the last outages, I have taken the
>decision to discontinue EKIGA.NET before the end of the year.

what about to get a sip address from now on
How can one use ekiga or is the project dead?
What is ekiga.org
What is ekiga.im I cannot reach.
Have I to use linphonec?
Regards


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Am 2018-12-09 um 12:10 schrieb yxcv@vienna.at:
>> Due to the lack of time, and to the last outages, I have taken the
>> decision to discontinue EKIGA.NET before the end of the year.
> 
> what about to get a sip address from now on
There are other free SIP service providers, for example linphone.org.

> How can one use ekiga or is the project dead?
The source code of ekiga is still available, but not developed
further since quite some time.

> What is ekiga.org
This is the website of the ekiga _software/project_.

> What is ekiga.im I cannot reach.
I think it was the same as ekiga.net (the website of the ekiga _SIP
service_), but don't nail me down on that. :-)

> Have I to use linphonec?Linphone (the software) is certainly an alternative for Ekiga nowadays.
Under GNOME you could also use Empathy, IIRC.

BR,
Gerhard
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Hi,

I wish to advertise on ekiga.org home page footer/sidebar with a
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Thanks.


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I saw an enquiry about advertising. I will uninstall the Ekiga application the second that any advertising appears in it, because advertising is a useless waste of screen real estate and system resources, and usually advertises poor-quality products in any case.

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I saw an enquiry about advertising. I will uninstall the Ekiga application the second that any advertising appears in it, because advertising is a useless waste of screen real estate and system resources, and usually advertises poor-quality products in any case.


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--000000000000ff9332057d1e467a-- From el_gallo_azul@yahoo.com Sun Dec 16 09:29:51 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDBEF7611D for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 09:29:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.701 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Iec3jARJy4u3 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 09:29:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sonic312-20.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com (sonic312-20.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com [74.6.128.82]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DEC83760DF for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 09:29:50 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1544952589; bh=+2vm/Kj0KBGIaOCmXNrIIZAOy3xUS4cUmkOreuxz12Y=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=Gue5Tk/b5vcSPGhHE6/7zg6Mte7Q3O+WSXGMXQsgo/cpyoESoSNTN0ke1oOwpUnSY4ZTKsHDlnS1WvtABQk+Hi4BpolDMmb9olDemK+22+LWOq3N0QKeA37fQJXxiUwLYTCaZg3ufld7QInxouL7Rj1RpxRgduX6WDYZPIE+J12qRMyI1PRkwtTRyqxiDGmrQpLpUhBRoyKOpoPDg8BEJqg1rDlWt63DNE7NGmESfQtfT62FTPtHfX2eHGJ5fHVwkZ5tpCjXxf6IobKkByI7J6NCXGaIHksWWwSTZFrBqaaKvHTiLRbOxPGXTsH+RJeVkQgkqsrs+0c5nZlW+7EnEw== X-YMail-OSG: jRCWz6sVM1m1zx5rvFwxV_2d8QvqwG3_PLc5YlpFvU.DM_42UtoWZZQsr0Tzvbg aRMBv7uYxKzOUbIIcrN2uByFkcIzfz0gUpb2vSq05_VN0gdTXnxQkNGBRRZaKZoeE5zmo4sYie4g I5OaBMK4tCAcVdvHCAupXIUoBEUpMuH0Xof0XirF54RnVMo22344jDqJBxPYI0AR3vPFQicLKq9S XpNVLHMtlbAUQV9YXFVrr.zrlmrb8qax2r3CMDXd2TDTFY.eJIWEUMhOIQ6nk8JKxRy.2qCFIQsA 2XK_PE4nIz8oNZuSxK3mFqeGnrJWLGbGo6nYvd8DereceN9sRnQHAh8RunRErYeNUP_qWWAM2c_h fsVIxOLytnpRO_77sMBSAQaSW2iNzRWW3dj6wmssVcACnM.t_0m9OYPCa4rbWwq08.GEHLzSi0dF j3hMDeZ.62gOsH2q6ao0ayqBEsSUT29QwvuD21NA.aiiuiL9hxgwXE3p8.StcgdQuzVPix3oxmcQ N_G36iemjOO5tlmTBc7Ywxk8rsqKVO.i.V6R1yW8dQSjYp4NyXn8dY7sAj4If9rFA_WmBlpBA.gJ uQ7030tHUwMlCEXaQM_m6WFTcoTeOkx5qbMGip.4b8_oWHIfT0cbgjxbx0PH.Fd3rSPNkHw2eZZz UVH0PaYRcmK8elMuVe2SZmL8Y0ltfy1V3.HkVgtLIai4NULOY1kSJHXlRvQlLTjbfCYbPJL_.zAP LAMjPjdzCmyiDmzzpxQMmYt3tVGfXSj.eHw5WQHdXvf74wo9rcBHcLnsOSLJp7P5od6etFZOxzuB osQHNBhbsjip9OuiwVGsyjydtfLa.kloz4PLULuIP91rX7oUExUi3NO8NxqlJvwUeRoBka_lfK77 62yQboF4i86_BApcqmWd.mUpPKZLgYRMy1JNLETQWRaEG7Ih1ejpSn.NZzxIzwMooZt3Hlau_Lqv BmW6tnIe1b6AJnHlcPMRqZSmAKqyP0pY11o7kwvJzc9C49dX3bTACjcncolA.bnCQQ7jlJZOH6R7 cBmwAi1oFT4HHnpZKtNTnOaqDu8kDlJdMw133Hy5nv3_iYx8AWIcFjoj6brqeD4oeayc- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic312.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 09:29:49 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 09:29:41 +0000 (UTC) From: el_gallo_azul Reply-To: el_gallo_azul To: Ekiga Mailing List Message-ID: <460821856.5019424.1544952581836@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <682195877.5026146.1544952527835@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1159452762.5033479.1544939939694@mail.yahoo.com> <682195877.5026146.1544952527835@mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5019423_2001826814.1544952581835" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.12857 YahooMailNeo Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/70.0.3538.77 Safari/537.36 Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Advertising Inquiry X-BeenThere: ekiga-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Ekiga mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 09:29:52 -0000 ------=_Part_5019423_2001826814.1544952581835 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As far as I know, nothing has changed other than the SIP server "ekiga.net" shutting down. ------=_Part_5019423_2001826814.1544952581835 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
As far as I know, nothing has changed other than the SIP server "ekiga.net" shutting down.




------=_Part_5019423_2001826814.1544952581835-- From ahumanexistence@gmail.com Sun Dec 16 18:13:25 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3615176128 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 18:13:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bIa8itSbLAPj for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 18:13:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-it1-f176.google.com (mail-it1-f176.google.com [209.85.166.176]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B88976125 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 18:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-it1-f176.google.com with SMTP id m8so3572793itk.0 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 10:13:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=2R2v533CvD3rWmcfN7Z6/QFlhq16bF95gbEnxIAla9U=; b=kHkKA5Q1xNJDoV/Z+LiC3Nf0oLvmpNLpu02r8PPVsDv+ZGnaO82Q8X1TZJy/A6FAM6 YqEZgoVsn/2DdVuQKl6XpXi/R1k5zSwBT/QxC56je+zQIyJ4QHT5BtgBLOmuNMW+AiSb mJqYqZWbd8LlAazAGBnV8DBdZgsrkdmIrBH04Gr1lTqmN3Opvyro4ZzU9yPdaAu9yTWX J0AEobbRaOocA1VyfQTmF2r985+DsQo4DbwJ1WJOT6G8l2Mhk5US1Otv1bZtv5sFX2OA woNhGEydHMHDxW6AiFLwumsNXrKy9y5sHELRl85wyzPSte75J0MGTO66S4jfwZUqdxpI ZOdg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=2R2v533CvD3rWmcfN7Z6/QFlhq16bF95gbEnxIAla9U=; b=m8fgpc1MYFcGnHGVHl8HOguJJDZ+qL7y5AupTltkrC/IHKkZSlVxrWzz/sw90XYNJ6 HLJ7O04vvW9jCFgYAUTz8a53jdlzItUc7e37rTnFY0+Y1SLLzd7ycMOhMh4eR82rNPSk TCppm3QLgz++u3LHesvmPRCh76RCJ2JTAhuV/FOHqiawbq3zqty/I3cgJCdwF1duWNSV 1acR5ajihlWVTy8C3DQAHTnTkS8ILID47Vx70Bwrv2sWolhusUp4H2n7Thuyom/W86Vm iAIy8ItU1so1u+YiVts7e0sVfNnoz87AV1sDL5bBlhAJXNJO+x25qAk+JxC3maypdCvX 3SVw== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWaha7bry2/tZAnQQrJ13T0Hmna3x/GW3AdsPnleg14hWaCCzJNb yJ4qZnd+fzWoqRYvjyPfRSw8SLY9ENRItzDYsCaEZw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/U6WbAe7cH5lDTSjQTMR69Cf0lulZj4rG68fwD0jPYLxCOcGx6Nj7NBMhxVAvzf5+cP5Ll5ucIKc/n4TttzCn4= X-Received: by 2002:a02:9281:: with SMTP id b1mr9789760jah.86.1544984003872; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 10:13:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1159452762.5033479.1544939939694@mail.yahoo.com> <682195877.5026146.1544952527835@mail.yahoo.com> <460821856.5019424.1544952581836@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <460821856.5019424.1544952581836@mail.yahoo.com> From: A Human Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 13:14:24 -0500 Message-ID: To: el_gallo_azul@yahoo.com, Ekiga mailing list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000bc0fb2057d279e0a" Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Advertising Inquiry X-BeenThere: ekiga-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Ekiga mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 18:13:25 -0000 --000000000000bc0fb2057d279e0a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ok how can i stop receiveing email from this list? Le dim. 16 d=C3=A9c. 2018 =C3=A0 04:30, el_gallo_azul via ekiga-list < ekiga-list@gnome.org> a =C3=A9crit : > As far as I know, nothing has changed other than the SIP server "ekiga.ne= t" > shutting down. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list --000000000000bc0fb2057d279e0a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ok = how can i stop receiveing email from this list?


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As far as I know, nothing has changed oth= er than the SIP server "ekiga.net" shutting down.


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--000000000000bc0fb2057d279e0a-- From ford.davidj@gmail.com Sun Dec 16 18:26:04 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF6C7612B for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 18:26:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7h5Z7RGNOn6t for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 18:26:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-it1-f171.google.com (mail-it1-f171.google.com [209.85.166.171]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70C2576125 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 18:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-it1-f171.google.com with SMTP id g76so15882950itg.2 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 10:26:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=mBfQG2fOwJjxlXyBMt8qpROsDXam1BlBeenqSVr9VvM=; b=qJRQO1WtEN3/UOQLP1SRdxUZpyvdm9eSwOpLxYpXgVTZYQvVO0i4km0xNkiZP9/le5 8F+XybfdzL6ElKuycE5WiUacTIDtD8hNsYUwd8ZmNlntqeNdEB/WqXL1V/J12zHeQCJA uI/GFxnPZFCVHUl+koPccBxGy4OD7gMwnEZV7OwCgDfTbw5BlqUGo1cHqV1q+tHG3XJn Zrq7lPlLA5nzSWUZyL2Udb2x23cUFA/qx83/2UWYt6ZV61bTHmhmU8lEjuGrqtEFUGo6 KubR2Zw9yFfCN951hac+RZlfAPgSmd2sS2ORZEH9h981o32kSjVcBRgwe1z8dfnbXl/F tIbw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=mBfQG2fOwJjxlXyBMt8qpROsDXam1BlBeenqSVr9VvM=; b=tvTP7R8H4wyPSv51O15+3TwlOHdanm8bZSXgjMl5xKkRCB1oIFPhSw4ZEtGxeAErX8 engxWXUrv39RrcTerYQNvdoBTd7dbYtbBadpyFFx+Irpp7Wbz6X2rE155G8pIg+JnL7Y AiXyHjB3ltfU1IsLje/wHrMCkCsQ7UVLg3YaXNh6LB7JDj8swSkbEfQcZfsSSEeslzVk 6gfy68adWjV+pojQkzZ1RI0V9dKOVIjAOy2Id5h8ssI+jtI0V3oaYICIl3qO7Y2W3oLk CKi4b/vljplvPKBG489GfJhOlw5FcmzRpp5IXksuPdxsGIGakeEBfJVT4BBJGoWMsXqF EArg== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWZZ0jYCnw9WgWXWZKvJSEa2VUtGjBPYsF2lXaeiWoeStjooaqOq 8faIRgTY9qan6TUJchqyzlf99J21/nVIex2BWKTzDw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/XLahetEAXI11anxxWL0Zx+0D4N5oagpVV/mfjcgCzIhJk3ECWXEPvcGdXndyB7sE6NachLJSLERUEsUlqm0E0= X-Received: by 2002:a24:414c:: with SMTP id x73mr9527488ita.129.1544984762333; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 10:26:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1159452762.5033479.1544939939694@mail.yahoo.com> <682195877.5026146.1544952527835@mail.yahoo.com> <460821856.5019424.1544952581836@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: From: David Ford Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 18:25:51 +0000 Message-ID: To: Ekiga mailing list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f13eab057d27cbfd" Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Advertising Inquiry X-BeenThere: ekiga-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Ekiga mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 18:26:04 -0000 --000000000000f13eab057d27cbfd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Click on the three dots ... or whatever to show the whole email and you will find a link to the mailing list - follow that and unsubscribe. Hope this Bedtime Stories (4 - 8 years) http://www.everopenstorybook.com Nature https://www.ja2da.com Random Thoughts https://medium.com/@ford.davidj/latest On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 at 18:13, A Human via ekiga-list wrote: > ok how can i stop receiveing email from this list? > > > Le dim. 16 d=C3=A9c. 2018 =C3=A0 04:30, el_gallo_azul via ekiga-list < > ekiga-list@gnome.org> a =C3=A9crit : > >> As far as I know, nothing has changed other than the SIP server " >> ekiga.net" shutting down. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ekiga-list mailing list >> ekiga-list@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list --000000000000f13eab057d27cbfd Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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ok how can i stop r= eceiveing email from this list?


Le=C2=A0dim. 16 d=C3=A9c. 2018 =C3=A0=C2=A004:30, el_gallo_azul via e= kiga-list <eki= ga-list@gnome.org> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
As far as I know, nothing has changed other than the SIP serve= r "ekiga.net" = shutting down.



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--000000000000e31233057d2aac36-- From ford.davidj@gmail.com Sun Dec 16 21:53:47 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907F47613F for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 21:53:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c2H4cgo1vB6p for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 21:53:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-it1-f174.google.com (mail-it1-f174.google.com [209.85.166.174]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F31876139 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 21:53:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-it1-f174.google.com with SMTP id z7so16286954iti.0 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 13:53:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=y4Jih0PdTj7XhZcN7qpzq8VM0kSY3s2uRwgvI9yyUNg=; b=ROAdXybtgaXh11Myea82NPcQC5junZs/eWrsmtpuz8xYPgQvBbuI2JLTEkuTrtgK1Y DKIZH7XC8rReGPOFAkWHTG+XWuWzMSp5Xf4h/tjGa8+iCLBZb+tTdMU17Tkig7UTQtr3 LjAw1Mwe533+jyLGvdtPpslJYJeeyuTQ4/Z8CE3ZK6dhJiyvZdWsYgcJYAbrP9iqaWe3 g0Q1Cs0LB5BncpOiaXw+dKHcvOkfyC1rN/i4cJpIjuwpwmR6tvdNEg9iNZ7cXt8y6Imu Cpvs4CkMN0RaXNDF0lUpJ2Jqc0JiTdlMmh6wSylaltJewBbSCh4AuXcWnUTC2MBfdG7W SIrg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=y4Jih0PdTj7XhZcN7qpzq8VM0kSY3s2uRwgvI9yyUNg=; b=aFINH25PpwK0sOrZtzy77ifapOxWUCo/dLZlg4BJBWShj36736DDQZx7dzmLZ41mV0 QG4ivCMCthXQa61gfFSDrVed8HoihHywEhgjbeUYvUM03H5IiNtoJDML6XtnHg9hou/0 5VgCUS+j9YvUAv09sqTbD3lwyPrNcCVXrHbXYoXfeLVNuO6ej2D0e/HR3jjq44Ufzmo6 GKbbpslqOkl+qYRDhinze6G9LQv+YwLVq6Zf22XfexeSoMPC3Yd84Gb3MO/6h5mbpQIo fzqqzJEYToCQyX4dowNS/3p1u1MgM1KBwzig20zQhmgrOWLZkJOlCbuVwAbH1zPG4UY6 14qg== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWYvD3BtclNKbUoqQA/lyFFqLcHIzf3RKTxHHeoh7jpmEb770xqR M/dAa8eeHDPz+F0Wj5TOCLaQaWAxYA2buqbrch8zJg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/XIkvAOD6UHDUbI6zPKOl9GE1ds5oPbCIPUD6VLE9fCCDqDNk3Rj2YKXCwVBzeoEQxiYBFGOr/S6umagRXPEMg= X-Received: by 2002:a24:68d1:: with SMTP id v200mr10550419itb.163.1544997225060; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 13:53:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: David Ford Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 21:53:33 +0000 Message-ID: To: Ekiga mailing list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c75fb2057d2ab2ec" Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] unsubcrib me please X-BeenThere: ekiga-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Ekiga mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 21:53:47 -0000 --000000000000c75fb2057d2ab2ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Click the link below and unsubscribe yourself Bedtime Stories (4 - 8 years) http://www.everopenstorybook.com Nature https://www.ja2da.com Random Thoughts https://medium.com/@ford.davidj/latest On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 at 21:52, A Human via ekiga-list wrote: > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list --000000000000c75fb2057d2ab2ec Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--000000000000c75fb2057d2ab2ec-- From sam@whiteoctober.co.uk Mon Dec 17 11:49:59 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 476A376110 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2018 11:49:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3EhUb3mZHQCN for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2018 11:49:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-it1-f169.google.com (mail-it1-f169.google.com [209.85.166.169]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F506760DF for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2018 11:49:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-it1-f169.google.com with SMTP id x124so5275099itd.1 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2018 03:49:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=whiteoctober.co.uk; s=google; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=L1JCFXnDu3rIaIWO1S9na728sH4/NhweSEHq4jmaSpk=; b=boNM7Bzzm02eQhxhe+seFnAeSSohxdsHL6ArusSzxEYJAhOfZf+/ndS5S+kEbhJswN P8rlhb9J0mOD1kiFH4DSJm6UHPEoIVlCtQIVYfDpWzNkTogMqfhuegqMpJw8T7jq7EhR epSzAHFDII0gGoMp8TN6i5+f4c5hF5UMohvEE= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=L1JCFXnDu3rIaIWO1S9na728sH4/NhweSEHq4jmaSpk=; b=tE2obJP0qpXrlBJ7u5IWZhkzFULt+TQgzbySdNwzYA+ER/QVvWLig4CX9Ms4MN/aun 0c1gbmxtE0v3O7gXoLxsLWmWp+0BsbluaGd58A5szid37jvPnqSon8ECWI0lj9wxqlcf 3eIrgkD235LQmVthloGTKCTfroPOzrippwsF9t6aeZEbV3bHX6K0eYdgIEeXyU8OLIxv z73LkcioW+QJR213iFvEaZr7sMajxyT2aTiOyxmB/oSLRJVWU5FA8VAUEnFqN/i0fYsw /LYO0fSHha2d5mpmvtTxpgs5NBqms70WNmfYDt3mELJIUe7XDtyn5dUZwBOHytKLuX7/ Sn2A== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWanH3av/CzyryOmKjDCWDGD+eQOuuxgwVGBMyM4K/bs7tw8sxZB 4ojRne+XlCjNb+chiGY+8iTTRHUXGQJ0JwawyANbH1DXb2sYnA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/XgndE8o7M9YByWcWqpnBx6gDGaH97N3jiKQYx3JDjbwIAkF4CC9hJXzVR/++HW8zqYynB9d0Ak+pPVjIAN3Rk= X-Received: by 2002:a24:9144:: with SMTP id i65mr12420425ite.115.1545047396049; Mon, 17 Dec 2018 03:49:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Sam Partington Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 11:49:45 +0000 Message-ID: To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003402f4057d366182" Subject: [Ekiga-list] Call disconnecting from conference room after ~30 seconds X-BeenThere: ekiga-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Ekiga mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 11:49:59 -0000 --0000000000003402f4057d366182 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there, (I understand from http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga thatthis is the place to send requests for debugging help.) I've been using Ekiga for SIP and it works fine when calling ordinary numbers. However, we have a work conference room (from Gradwell), and when I call that, I am prompted for a PIN (which I enter), I can join the conference and hear and be heard, but after about 30 seconds of discussion, my connection to the call disconnects and I leave the conference room. I've recorded the debug logs here ( https://drive.google.com/open?id=3D1H0ADLREyf7je6trgWLzPXdXzsflhgqLp), and = am wondering it anyone can help me work out what's going on? Many thanks Sam Sam Partington Technical Lead My working days are usually Mon - Thurs, but this often varies in school holidays . www.whiteoctober.co.uk Office: +44 (0)1865 920 707 The Lead Developer =E2=80=93 Austin, New York, London SeleniumConf AngularConnect This email message and any attachments are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you have received this message in error. Please notify us immediately and delete the message from your computer. You should not distribute, copy or disclose its contents to any other person. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of White October Limited. White October is a private limited company registered in England & Wales under registration number 3982889. The company=E2=80=99s registered office is at 264 Banbury Road, Ox= ford, OX2 7DY. --0000000000003402f4057d366182 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi there,

<= div>(I understand from http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga thatthis is the= place to send requests for debugging help.)

I'= ;ve been using Ekiga for SIP and it works fine when calling ordinary number= s.=C2=A0 However, we have a work conference room (from Gradwell), and when = I call that, I am prompted for a PIN (which I enter), I can join the confer= ence and hear and be heard, but after about 30 seconds of discussion, my co= nnection to the call disconnects and I leave the conference room.

I've recorded the debug logs here (https://drive.= google.com/open?id=3D1H0ADLREyf7je6trgWLzPXdXzsflhgqLp), and am wonderi= ng it anyone can help me work out what's going on?

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Many thanks
Sam

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