From piminusmeson at bk.ru Mon Jan 2 21:29:04 2012 From: piminusmeson at bk.ru (Dmitry Shkirmanov) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 01:29:04 +0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ekiga, debian: cannot make a call Message-ID: <4F0221A0.90104@bk.ru> Hello, list. I have debian squeeze, ekiga is installed from the official repository. Ekiga registers succesfully, but it can not make any call. It says: unable to connect to the remote server. The debug output is attached. Can anybody help me? P.S. sorry for my rough english. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: output.txt URL: From sevmek at free.fr Tue Jan 3 20:04:41 2012 From: sevmek at free.fr (Yannick) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 21:04:41 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ekiga, debian: cannot make a call In-Reply-To: <4F0221A0.90104@bk.ru> References: <4F0221A0.90104@bk.ru> Message-ID: <1325621081.14317.69.camel@athena.fbx.proxad.net> Le mardi 03 janvier 2012 ? 01:29 +0400, Dmitry Shkirmanov a ?crit : > PDU is likely too large (1605 bytes) for UDP datagram. IMHO the issue is here. Try to remove some codecs, like audio G726, CELT etc. until the PDU rich a safe size. (~1500 if I recall correctly) Best regards, Yannick From stuckybyler2 at yahoo.es Tue Jan 3 20:39:49 2012 From: stuckybyler2 at yahoo.es (Carola y Pablo) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 15:39:49 -0500 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ekiga, debian: cannot make a call In-Reply-To: <1325621081.14317.69.camel@athena.fbx.proxad.net> References: <4F0221A0.90104@bk.ru> <1325621081.14317.69.camel@athena.fbx.proxad.net> Message-ID: <1325623189.2278.1.camel@casa-laptop-ubuntu> I removed all codecs except G722 and PCMU and now Ekiga works fine Paul El mar, 03-01-2012 a las 21:04 +0100, Yannick escribi?: > Le mardi 03 janvier 2012 ? 01:29 +0400, Dmitry Shkirmanov a ?crit : > > PDU is likely too large (1605 bytes) for UDP datagram. > > IMHO the issue is here. > > Try to remove some codecs, like audio G726, CELT etc. until the PDU rich > a safe size. (~1500 if I recall correctly) > > Best regards, > Yannick > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From mig-system at videotron.ca Tue Jan 3 23:04:49 2012 From: mig-system at videotron.ca (mig-system at videotron.ca) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 18:04:49 -0500 Subject: [Ekiga-list] NO ANSWER Message-ID: I POSTED THAT D 4 REPORT ON DECEMBER 22 + 23 BUT DID NOT RECEIVE ANY FEEDBACK. IS ANYBODY LOOKING INTO THIS OR HAS IT BEEN OVERLOOKED ? PLEASE LET ME KNOW. AT THE SAME TIME I TRIED EKIGA AND TWINKLE ON UBUTU 11.10 AND HERE I GOT THE OPPOSITE RESULTS, EKIGA DID NOT WORK AT ALL BUT TWINKLE DID - WITH THE SAME PROBLEM, I CAN HEAR THE OTHER SIDE BUT THEY CAN'T HERE ME. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GET SOME BETTER RESULTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. REGARDS. MIKE From sevmek at free.fr Wed Jan 4 07:37:08 2012 From: sevmek at free.fr (Yannick) Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:37:08 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] NO ANSWER In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1325662628.14317.73.camel@athena.fbx.proxad.net> Le mardi 03 janvier 2012 ? 18:04 -0500, mig-system at videotron.ca a ?crit : > > I POSTED THAT D 4 REPORT ON DECEMBER 22 + 23 BUT DID NOT RECEIVE ANY > FEEDBACK. IS ANYBODY LOOKING INTO THIS OR HAS IT BEEN OVERLOOKED ? > PLEASE LET ME KNOW. > AT THE SAME TIME I TRIED EKIGA AND TWINKLE ON UBUTU 11.10 AND HERE I GOT > THE OPPOSITE RESULTS, EKIGA DID NOT WORK AT ALL BUT TWINKLE DID - WITH THE > SAME PROBLEM, I CAN HEAR THE OTHER SIDE BUT THEY CAN'T HERE ME. I WOULD > REALLY LIKE TO GET SOME BETTER RESULTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. > REGARDS. > MIKE > _________ Hello, We need the full debug file to understand the issue, please do not cut the output to what seems relevant. > (ekiga:1731): libebook-DEBUG: e-book.c:129: EBook GDBus connection is > closed, remote peer vanished > (ekiga:1731): libebook-DEBUG: e-book.c:129: EBook GDBus connection is > closed, remote peer vanished > (ekiga:1731): libebook-DEBUG: GDBus connection is closed, remote peer > vanished There is no SIP protocol in this, thus we cannot understand where the issue is. Your issue, having audio going only in one way, _seems_ related to NAT issue... Regards, Yannick From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Wed Jan 4 08:35:47 2012 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:35:47 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga Interview In-Reply-To: <20111028181539.154ccfe1@darkstar.example.net> References: <4EA9347A.5090500@seconix.com> <20111028181539.154ccfe1@darkstar.example.net> Message-ID: <20120104103547.246ec4b3@acer> On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:15:39 +0200 genghiskhan wrote: > 3.1) Concerning to the integration of Ekiga with existing tools, > instead of adding them, again, withing Ekiga (e.g. using GNOME?s > address book and GNOME?s account setup instead of providing yours). > > 3.2) Not all of us are using GNOME or KDE or any other full Desktop > Environments/Stations with all of its set of desktop applications, so > some of us might need to have an option, while compiling Ekiga, of > whether Ekiga should have its own address book, account setup etc. or > should it use one of the following PIM software (fixed list) to manage > this sort of data, or maybe you will use an auto detection feature > (not a fixed list) which will ask which one of the selected (a list of > detected software) you (the user) would like Ekiga to use - of course, > this will be available only for the supported applications that Ekiga > can detect. > Please do not consider what I have wrote above as too serious. Overhaul the idea of Damien is very good. I prefer all my settings to be at ~/.config/ekiga.conf From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Wed Jan 4 11:18:11 2012 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 13:18:11 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga Interview In-Reply-To: <20111028181539.154ccfe1@darkstar.example.net> References: <4EA9347A.5090500@seconix.com> <20111028181539.154ccfe1@darkstar.example.net> Message-ID: <20120104131811.73615d31@acer> On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:15:39 +0200 genghiskhan wrote: > 3.1) Concerning to the integration of Ekiga with existing tools, > instead of adding them, again, withing Ekiga (e.g. using GNOME?s > address book and GNOME?s account setup instead of providing yours). > Should it be available in a separated package called ekiga-plugins? SFLphone seem to do this (sflphone-plugins) http://lists.savoirfairelinux.net/pipermail/sflphone/2012-January/000874.html From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Wed Jan 4 12:13:01 2012 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 14:13:01 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Is it possible to show/replicate Address Book addresses to more than one computer? In-Reply-To: <1325077219.2244.17.camel@casa-laptop-ubuntu> References: <1324788701.17683.YahooMailNeo@web160303.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4EFA7980.1030407@gathman.org> <1325077219.2244.17.camel@casa-laptop-ubuntu> Message-ID: <20120104141301.62d6fe03@acer> On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:00:19 -0500 Carola y Pablo wrote: > I am interested in the possibility of IP to IP communication. > Have you tried IHU? http://ihu.sourceforge.net/ From piminusmeson at bk.ru Wed Jan 4 15:30:03 2012 From: piminusmeson at bk.ru (Dmitry Shkirmanov) Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:30:03 +0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ekiga, debian: cannot make a call In-Reply-To: <1325623189.2278.1.camel@casa-laptop-ubuntu> References: <4F0221A0.90104@bk.ru> <1325621081.14317.69.camel@athena.fbx.proxad.net> <1325623189.2278.1.camel@casa-laptop-ubuntu> Message-ID: <4F04707B.8070902@bk.ru> Thanks. The problem was that the "disable_stun" item was enabled. I removed the mark from this item and got ekiga working. > I removed all codecs except G722 and PCMU and now Ekiga works fine > > Paul > > El mar, 03-01-2012 a las 21:04 +0100, Yannick escribi?: > >> Le mardi 03 janvier 2012 ? 01:29 +0400, Dmitry Shkirmanov a ?crit : >> >>> PDU is likely too large (1605 bytes) for UDP datagram. >>> >> IMHO the issue is here. >> >> Try to remove some codecs, like audio G726, CELT etc. until the PDU rich >> a safe size. (~1500 if I recall correctly) >> >> Best regards, >> Yannick >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ekiga-list mailing list >> ekiga-list at gnome.org >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list >> > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Sun Jan 8 09:33:19 2012 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:33:19 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] stun server down In-Reply-To: <4E0B3204.6080004@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <4E0B07D7.1070806@bwh.harvard.edu> <4E0B3204.6080004@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <20120108113319.5c45219e@acer> On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:09:08 +0200 Eugen Dedu wrote: > On 29/06/11 13:09, Andre Robatino wrote: > > The stun server stun.ekiga.net (alias for stun.opalvoip.org) has > > been down for about a day now. > > Indeed, we are sorry. stun.opalvoip.org STUN server was stopped, > since the bandwidth was really too high. We need to find a good > server (as soon as we release), in the meantime please use > stun.xten.com or the other from the thread with stun... > Where do I configure the STUN server from the GUI? From steve at nexusuk.org Mon Jan 9 22:52:33 2012 From: steve at nexusuk.org (Steve Hill) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:52:33 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Full screen video background colour Message-ID: <4F0B6FB1.5060808@nexusuk.org> When video conferencing with the video set to full-screen, if the video aspect ratio doesn't match the monitor's, the part of the screen without the video on it (e.g. the left and right sides of the screen) is filled with light-grey. Is it possible to change the colour to black? I've looked through the code and can't spot where the colour is defined so any pointers would be helpful (the gtk theme appears to have no effect on this part of the window). Thanks. -- - Steve From dima at minignu.minidns.net Mon Jan 9 23:17:40 2012 From: dima at minignu.minidns.net (Dima Sorkin) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 01:17:40 +0200 (IST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Difference between 500 and 520 echoes Message-ID: <20120109231740.3148D7A066@minignu.minidns.net> Hi. Ekiga 3.2.7 at Debian/SID (powerpc). When I call 500 at ekiga dot net, I hear silence, and in fact, the numbers at the bottom of a window show that no audio is received from the ekiga.net server. Video is ok, after 20 sec my cam is echoed to me back. On the other hand, when I use the 520 at ekiga dot net, it returns call to me, and then audio is just fine. Other audio echo services (4444 at sip2sip dot info) work fine. With Twinkle on the same machine the audio echo from 500 at ekiga is fine. What can be the reason that with Ekiga I get no audio echo from 500 ? Thanks, regards, Dima From dima at minignu.minidns.net Mon Jan 9 23:21:41 2012 From: dima at minignu.minidns.net (Dima Sorkin) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 01:21:41 +0200 (IST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Source snapshots for DEB-SRC Message-ID: <20120109232141.DFFF77A066@minignu.minidns.net> Hi. I would like to try the snapshots for Debian/SID, however no snapshots are for PowerPC. Do Ekiga developers have some kind of 'deb-src' compatible repository, thus I could fullfill the dependencies and build the snapshots from source for my machine (powerpc) with apt-get. Thanks, regards, Dima. From pawell06 at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 10:52:57 2012 From: pawell06 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?0J/QsNCy0LXQuyDQn9C+0LvRg9GI0LjQvQ==?=) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:52:57 +0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] (no subject) Message-ID: Hello. I have a problem with Ekiga on Ubuntu 11.10 We have Asterisk IP-PBX in our office. When i try to make a call via Ekiga i dial number and PBX's address manually. In FAQ at ekiga.org written "If the provider part is not entered, the application will assume the same provider as the user". But why provider part not define automatically in my case? P.S. sorry for my english language skill. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andreas at weisker.net Wed Jan 11 23:42:07 2012 From: andreas at weisker.net (Andreas Weisker) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 00:42:07 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga HD In-Reply-To: <4E5F93C9.1090705@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <4E5F93C9.1090705@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <4F0E1E4F.9010803@weisker.net> Am 09/01/2011 04:16 PM, schrieb Eugen Dedu: > On 26/08/11 10:42, Majid Sadeghi Alavijeh wrote: >> Dear All >> Is this possible to Encode and decode 720P ? >> what should i do to change it ? > > It is not yet possible. I am looking into this currently (with > Andreas W., in CC), I have to do some tests, maybe it will work; in > this case it will appear in the next release. > Hi, just a little Ping from me. I'am still here and interested on bringing HD to Ekiga. Unfortunately i had and still have no time to do any productive work. My little daughter is consuming nearly all of my ressources and is heavily interested in discouraging me to get any sleep. ;-) As soon this will get better, i resume working on HD. Best regards Andreas From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Fri Jan 13 10:31:10 2012 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 12:31:10 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Fw: Add a menu entry of "ekiga -d 4" output Message-ID: <20120113123110.71cbf8f2@acer> Please reply in regard to the content and topic. Begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 18:58:32 +0200 From: Genghis Khan To: Ekiga mailing list Subject: [Ekiga-list] Add a menu entry of "ekiga -d 4" output Add a menu item in the Help menu which will say "Auto-build a report" "Analise and send" or "anything else", which will prompt the user to a dialog which will explain shortly what is this feature, what does it do and so on... and it will tell to the user that Ekiga is going to restart itself and will generate a debug file and there will be a link to the Users Mailing List or to both Users (Help) and Devel (Development) Mailing Lists. Any thoughts? From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Fri Jan 13 16:29:34 2012 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:29:34 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Fw: Add a menu entry of "ekiga -d 4" output In-Reply-To: <20120113123110.71cbf8f2@acer> References: <20120113123110.71cbf8f2@acer> Message-ID: <20120113182934.440eda4e@acer> On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 12:31:10 +0200 Genghis Khan wrote: > Add a menu item in the Help menu which will say "Auto-build a report" > "Analise and send" or "anything else", which will prompt the user to a > dialog which will explain shortly what is this feature, what does it > do and so on... and it will tell to the user that Ekiga is going to > restart itself and will generate a debug file and there will be a link > to the Users Mailing List or to both Users (Help) and Devel > (Development) Mailing Lists. > > Any thoughts? > And this auto report generator will also archive/compress (7z, gzip, tar, zip or whatever is available) this report (this will save a lot of trouble to all of us, instead of using File Uploading websites). From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Fri Jan 13 20:30:22 2012 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 22:30:22 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ATOM/RSS News Feeds on http://ekiga.org/ Message-ID: <20120113223022.59037037@acer> Please add the following code and ATOM/RSS News Feeds to all the pages of Ekiga.org Main page already has this News Feed. Community page RSS feed for the archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/ekiga-list at gnome.org/maillist.xml (External service provided by mail-archive.com). Where is the link to the ekiga-devel-list at gnome.org feed? http://www.mail-archive.com/ekiga-devel-list at gnome.org/maillist.xml Community page should at least has to have these two News Feeds (auto-detection). Consider to add the Wiki ATOM Feed as well Please, please, please add these Feeds so that more users will keep Ekiga in their mind to get News in the future. The more active News Feeds you got (Mailing Lists are the most active) the more interest, reputation and users you would have. From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Fri Jan 13 20:35:51 2012 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 22:35:51 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ATOM/RSS News Feeds on http://ekiga.org/ In-Reply-To: <20120113223022.59037037@acer> References: <20120113223022.59037037@acer> Message-ID: <20120113223551.3ae6377e@acer> On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 22:30:22 +0200 Genghis Khan wrote: > href="/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&feed=atom" /> > It suppose to be From sevmek at free.fr Sat Jan 14 15:24:08 2012 From: sevmek at free.fr (Yannick) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 16:24:08 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ATOM/RSS News Feeds on http://ekiga.org/ In-Reply-To: <20120113223022.59037037@acer> References: <20120113223022.59037037@acer> Message-ID: <1326554648.14317.160.camel@athena.fbx.proxad.net> Le vendredi 13 janvier 2012 ? 22:30 +0200, Genghis Khan a ?crit : > Please add the following code and ATOM/RSS News Feeds to all the pages > of Ekiga.org > Done. Thank you for the idea. Regards, Yannick From dave.koelmeyer at davekoelmeyer.co.nz Sat Jan 14 22:18:22 2012 From: dave.koelmeyer at davekoelmeyer.co.nz (Dave Koelmeyer) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 11:18:22 +1300 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Fw: Add a menu entry of "ekiga -d 4" output In-Reply-To: <20120113182934.440eda4e@acer> References: <20120113123110.71cbf8f2@acer> <20120113182934.440eda4e@acer> Message-ID: <4F11FF2E.4050802@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> On 01/14/12 05:29 AM, Genghis Khan wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 12:31:10 +0200 > Genghis Khan wrote: > >> Add a menu item in the Help menu which will say "Auto-build a report" >> "Analise and send" or "anything else", which will prompt the user to a >> dialog which will explain shortly what is this feature, what does it >> do and so on... and it will tell to the user that Ekiga is going to >> restart itself and will generate a debug file and there will be a link >> to the Users Mailing List or to both Users (Help) and Devel >> (Development) Mailing Lists. >> >> Any thoughts? Well, I couldn't implement such a feature, but sounds good to me. -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Sat Jan 14 22:48:54 2012 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 00:48:54 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ATOM/RSS News Feeds on http://ekiga.org/ In-Reply-To: <1326554648.14317.160.camel@athena.fbx.proxad.net> References: <20120113223022.59037037@acer> <1326554648.14317.160.camel@athena.fbx.proxad.net> Message-ID: <20120115004854.074b1d14@acer> On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 16:24:08 +0100 Yannick wrote: > Done. Thank you for the idea. > Thank you for your attention. Lines 8 and 12 are the same, please omit one. 8. 12. I don't know why I have wrote RSS, I think that it would better be just "Ekiga ~ Free Your Speech". I think that "Ekiga.org RSS" would be fine. Choose what you think is better: Ekiga.org Ekiga.org RSS Ekiga ~ Free Your Speech Ekiga ~ Free Your Speech RSS And again, Thank you so much! From sevmek at free.fr Sun Jan 15 04:50:25 2012 From: sevmek at free.fr (Yannick) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 05:50:25 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ATOM/RSS News Feeds on http://ekiga.org/ In-Reply-To: <20120115004854.074b1d14@acer> References: <20120113223022.59037037@acer> <1326554648.14317.160.camel@athena.fbx.proxad.net> <20120115004854.074b1d14@acer> Message-ID: <1326603025.14317.182.camel@athena.fbx.proxad.net> Le dimanche 15 janvier 2012 ? 00:48 +0200, Genghis Khan a ?crit : > On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 16:24:08 +0100 > Yannick wrote: > > > Done. Thank you for the idea. > > > Thank you for your attention. > > Lines 8 and 12 are the same, please omit one. > 8. href="http://ekiga.org/rss.xml" /> > 12. type="application/rss+xml" title="Ekiga ~ Free Your Speech RSS" > href="http://ekiga.org/rss.xml" /> Indeed, and this is a bug. It only appears on the home page. I choose to not fix it because it would involve either hacking drupal core (which adds line 12 on the home page) or a module of drupal (which adds line 8 to all pages), but I do not have much spare time and I need to ease the maintenance, i.e. rely on easy updates. My bad. The best solution will be an official fix for the module. The bug report is here: http://drupal.org/node/884746 Regard, Yannick From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Sun Jan 15 16:53:25 2012 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:53:25 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ATOM/RSS News Feeds on http://ekiga.org/ In-Reply-To: <1326603025.14317.182.camel@athena.fbx.proxad.net> References: <20120113223022.59037037@acer> <1326554648.14317.160.camel@athena.fbx.proxad.net> <20120115004854.074b1d14@acer> <1326603025.14317.182.camel@athena.fbx.proxad.net> Message-ID: <20120115185325.351a1d00@acer> On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 05:50:25 +0100 Yannick wrote: > Indeed, and this is a bug. It only appears on the home page. I choose > to not fix it because it would involve either hacking drupal core > (which adds line 12 on the home page) or a module of drupal (which > adds line 8 to all pages), but I do not have much spare time and I > need to ease the maintenance, i.e. rely on easy updates. My bad. > > The best solution will be an official fix for the module. The bug > report is here: http://drupal.org/node/884746 > Good idea, and thanks again :-) From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Mon Jan 16 16:23:49 2012 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:23:49 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] stun server down In-Reply-To: <20120108113319.5c45219e@acer> References: <4E0B07D7.1070806@bwh.harvard.edu> <4E0B3204.6080004@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <20120108113319.5c45219e@acer> Message-ID: <4F144F15.8000004@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 08/01/12 10:33, Genghis Khan wrote: > On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:09:08 +0200 > Eugen Dedu wrote: > >> On 29/06/11 13:09, Andre Robatino wrote: >>> The stun server stun.ekiga.net (alias for stun.opalvoip.org) has >>> been down for about a day now. >> >> Indeed, we are sorry. stun.opalvoip.org STUN server was stopped, >> since the bandwidth was really too high. We need to find a good >> server (as soon as we release), in the meantime please use >> stun.xten.com or the other from the thread with stun... >> > Where do I configure the STUN server from the GUI? It is considered too low level to have a GUI entry, hence it is available only in gconf settings; use gconf-editor and choose /apps/ekiga and search for stun in key names. -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Mon Jan 16 16:54:49 2012 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:54:49 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Source snapshots for DEB-SRC In-Reply-To: <20120109232141.DFFF77A066@minignu.minidns.net> References: <20120109232141.DFFF77A066@minignu.minidns.net> Message-ID: <4F145659.9060007@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 10/01/12 00:21, Dima Sorkin wrote: > Hi. > I would like to try the snapshots for Debian/SID, however no snapshots are for PowerPC. Do Ekiga developers have some kind of 'deb-src' compatible repository, thus I could fullfill the dependencies and build the snapshots from source for my machine (powerpc) with apt-get. I create snapshots for amd64 and i386. Here is my script to generate snapshots. See the comments at the beginning to create the directories. Afterwards use ./build to build a snapshot. Feel free to use it for your needs. -- Eugen -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: build URL: From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Mon Jan 16 17:02:42 2012 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 18:02:42 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Difference between 500 and 520 echoes In-Reply-To: <20120109231740.3148D7A066@minignu.minidns.net> References: <20120109231740.3148D7A066@minignu.minidns.net> Message-ID: <4F145832.5040202@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 10/01/12 00:17, Dima Sorkin wrote: > Hi. > Ekiga 3.2.7 at Debian/SID (powerpc). > > When I call 500 at ekiga dot net, I hear silence, and in fact, the numbers at the bottom of a window show that no audio is received from the ekiga.net server. Video is ok, after 20 sec my cam is echoed to me back. > > On the other hand, when I use the 520 at ekiga dot net, it returns call to me, and then audio is just fine. Other audio echo services (4444 at sip2sip dot info) work fine. > > With Twinkle on the same machine the audio echo from 500 at ekiga is fine. > > What can be the reason that with Ekiga I get no audio echo from 500 ? This is surely a bug. Could you use in debian the ekiga version from experimental and tell if the problem persists? -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Mon Jan 16 17:10:43 2012 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 18:10:43 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga Interview In-Reply-To: <20120104131811.73615d31@acer> References: <4EA9347A.5090500@seconix.com> <20111028181539.154ccfe1@darkstar.example.net> <20120104131811.73615d31@acer> Message-ID: <4F145A13.3070404@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 04/01/12 12:18, Genghis Khan wrote: > On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:15:39 +0200 > genghiskhan wrote: > >> 3.1) Concerning to the integration of Ekiga with existing tools, >> instead of adding them, again, withing Ekiga (e.g. using GNOME?s >> address book and GNOME?s account setup instead of providing yours). >> > Should it be available in a separated package called ekiga-plugins? Yes, it is planned to make them as plugins. Currently, in the development tree, several plugins exist: http://git.gnome.org/browse/ekiga/tree/plugins. -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Mon Jan 16 17:15:39 2012 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 18:15:39 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga HD In-Reply-To: <4F0E1E4F.9010803@weisker.net> References: <4E5F93C9.1090705@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <4F0E1E4F.9010803@weisker.net> Message-ID: <4F145B3B.5070808@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 12/01/12 00:42, Andreas Weisker wrote: > Am 09/01/2011 04:16 PM, schrieb Eugen Dedu: >> On 26/08/11 10:42, Majid Sadeghi Alavijeh wrote: >>> Dear All >>> Is this possible to Encode and decode 720P ? >>> what should i do to change it ? >> >> It is not yet possible. I am looking into this currently (with Andreas >> W., in CC), I have to do some tests, maybe it will work; in this case >> it will appear in the next release. >> > Hi, > > just a little Ping from me. I'am still here and interested on bringing > HD to Ekiga. Unfortunately i had and still have no time to do any > productive work. My little daughter is consuming nearly all of my > ressources and is heavily interested in discouraging me to get any > sleep. ;-) The same for me! > As soon this will get better, i resume working on HD. As far as I noticed, HD works in ekiga (tested with 1024x768 I think), with the small patch you provided. I just need to test a bit more and especially to add only the available resolutions in the combobox in Preferences, video part. -- Eugen From kresander at yahoo.com Wed Jan 18 18:58:10 2012 From: kresander at yahoo.com (Ken Resander) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 10:58:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Difficulties getting started with Ekiga Message-ID: <1326913090.69632.YahooMailClassic@web39405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I fetched Ekiga 3.2.6 from the Ubuntu Software Centre and downloaded the latest Windows Ekiga 3.2.7 from internet. I am considering Ekiga as an alternative to Skype, but I am having some initial difficulties. I have only just started using Ekiga. I am testing with a dual-boot desktop PC with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and Windows XP and a netbook running Ubuntu 10.04.03 LTS. DESKTOP PC WITH UBUNTU 10.04 AND NETBOOK WITH UBUNTU 10.04.03 Linux Skype 2.2 beta work with these computers and Cheese too, so sound and video are ok. 1. first created a handful of Ekiga SIP addresses from Ekiga.net. I then ran the config wizard for both computers using these addresses and received 'could not register' error messages for both and for all (I think) SIP addreses. Tried many times and then suddenly after having created a few more addresses Ekiga worked. I did not and still do not understand why. I have probably misunderstood how the config and the sip addresses should be used and the significance of these. Q1. what are the common explanations of the 'could not register' error message that might be applicable here? On start of Ekiga both computers showed a caption 'Neighbours' in the Contacts list. When starting the second computer the user-friendly name of the first showed under its Neighbours caption and the Neighbours list of the first showed the user-friendly name of the second. Double clicking the user-friendly name started a call to the other party and sound and video worked fine. I then created sip addresses sip:donald.duck at ekiga.com and sip:minnie.mouse at ekiga.com from ekiga.net. I removed all addresses from the contacts list and assigned donald.duck to the desktop PC and minnie.mouse to the netbook using the config wizard. These showed as registered on each computer. 2.? I then connected by entering user name donald.duck into the sip-address field at the top of the Ekiga dialog for the netbook. It connected but each computer showed the local video, not the video coming from the remote party. I also tried entering minnie.mouse from the input field of Ekiga on the desktop PC with same result. After connecting by entering donald.duck into the sip field from the netbook the address field of the desktop PC showed sip:minnie.mouse at ekiga.com and the netbook still showed sip:donald.duck at ekiga.com. However, when connection was established with double-clicking user-friendly name donald.duck from netbook the netbook showed sip:neighbour at meijin-desktop.local:5060 in the sip-address field at the top and the desktop showed sip:homeaddress-of-netbook at ipaddress. Q2.? why is the local video shown instead of the remote-party video? Q3.? quitting Ekiga from one computer causes quit from Ekiga on the other computer. Is this the intention? DESKTOP PC WITH WINDOWS XP AND NETBOOK WITH UBUNTU 10.04.03 ? There is no Neighbours caption in the Contacts list of donald.duck on the Windows XP desktop PC. The netbook has a Neighbours caption, but it does not show the Donald Duck friendly name. There is nothing to double click, so the only way to connect seems to be to manually enter the user name into the sip field, but then the problem described in 2 above occurs (local video instead of remote party video shows). When connecting from the netbook the netbook's video shows on the Windows PC, but the video from Windows does not show (the local netbook video is there instead). Additionally the (local) video stops almost immediately on the Windows PC. I must get Ekiga to work on a Windows PC since a large majority of my friends would not want to and could not install Ubuntu. I think all would be willing to install Ekiga on their Windows PCs though. They are happy with Skype - from their perspective I am the odd one out insisting on Ubuntu. Would really appreciate some help. Ken ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Wed Jan 18 19:38:25 2012 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:38:25 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Difficulties getting started with Ekiga In-Reply-To: <1326913090.69632.YahooMailClassic@web39405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1326913090.69632.YahooMailClassic@web39405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F171FB1.7060607@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 18/01/12 19:58, Ken Resander wrote: > I fetched Ekiga 3.2.6 from the Ubuntu Software Centre and downloaded > the latest Windows Ekiga 3.2.7 from internet. > > I am considering Ekiga as an alternative to Skype, but I am having > some initial difficulties. I have only just started using Ekiga. > > I am testing with a dual-boot desktop PC with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and > Windows XP and a netbook running Ubuntu 10.04.03 LTS. > > DESKTOP PC WITH UBUNTU 10.04 AND NETBOOK WITH UBUNTU 10.04.03 > > Linux Skype 2.2 beta work with these computers and Cheese too, so > sound and video are ok. > > 1. first created a handful of Ekiga SIP addresses from Ekiga.net. I > then ran the config wizard for both computers using these addresses > and received 'could not register' error messages for both and for all > (I think) SIP addreses. Tried many times and then suddenly after > having created a few more addresses Ekiga worked. I did not and still > do not understand why. I have probably misunderstood how the config > and the sip addresses should be used and the significance of these. > > Q1. what are the common explanations of the 'could not register' > error message that might be applicable here? Hi Ken, The account window (from Edit menu) shows more information about the error. The only reason I see that using the same configuration did not work several times and suddenly it worked is a problem with NAT, which is tricky sometimes. In order to find the cause, we need the debug output when it worked and also when it did not work, to compare them, see http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga#How_to_get_a_debug_output. If possible, please use 3.2.7 (or better later) for all that. > On start of Ekiga both computers showed a caption 'Neighbours' in the > Contacts list. When starting the second computer the user-friendly > name of the first showed under its Neighbours caption and the > Neighbours list of the first showed the user-friendly name of the > second. Double clicking the user-friendly name started a call to the > other party and sound and video worked fine. > > I then created sip addresses sip:donald.duck at ekiga.com and > sip:minnie.mouse at ekiga.com from ekiga.net. I removed all addresses > from the contacts list and assigned donald.duck to the desktop PC and > minnie.mouse to the netbook using the config wizard. These showed as > registered on each computer. > > 2. I then connected by entering user name donald.duck into the > sip-address field at the top of the Ekiga dialog for the netbook. It > connected but each computer showed the local video, not the video > coming from the remote party. I also tried entering minnie.mouse from > the input field of Ekiga on the desktop PC with same result. > > After connecting by entering donald.duck into the sip field from the > netbook the address field of the desktop PC showed > sip:minnie.mouse at ekiga.com and the netbook still showed > sip:donald.duck at ekiga.com. > > However, when connection was established with double-clicking > user-friendly name donald.duck from netbook the netbook showed > sip:neighbour at meijin-desktop.local:5060 in the sip-address field at > the top and the desktop showed sip:homeaddress-of-netbook at ipaddress. > > Q2. why is the local video shown instead of the remote-party video? Did audio work? If you are behind a NAT, you cannot contact a computer behind the same NAT (i.e. in the same network), see http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_behind_a_NAT_router#I_have_2_Ekiga_behind_a_NAT_using_STUN:_they_can.27t_communicate This is because ekiga will make the two clients connect directly, while skype for ex. (however, I am not sure 100%) make them communicate through an intermediate machine, in another network. Just try calling 500 at ekiga.net, and if it works, then it should work with other clients too (but, again, not in the same network). > Q3. quitting Ekiga from one computer causes quit from Ekiga on the > other computer. Is this the intention? No, this was a bug which got fixed several months ago and is available in ekiga >= 3.3.1 or >=3.3.2. > DESKTOP PC WITH WINDOWS XP AND NETBOOK WITH UBUNTU 10.04.03 > > There is no Neighbours caption in the Contacts list of donald.duck on > the Windows XP desktop PC. The netbook has a Neighbours caption, but > it does not show the Donald Duck friendly name. There is nothing to > double click, so the only way to connect seems to be to manually > enter the user name into the sip field, but then the problem > described in 2 above occurs (local video instead of remote party > video shows). When connecting from the netbook the netbook's video > shows on the Windows PC, but the video from Windows does not show > (the local netbook video is there instead). Additionally the (local) > video stops almost immediately on the Windows PC. Unfortunately, showing neighbours is not implemented in Windows, see http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Windows_Users. As for the other problem, you say that remote video is shown on linux, but not on Windows. For that, we need again the debug output, see http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga#How_to_get_a_debug_output_2. This could be https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=626515. > I must get Ekiga to work on a Windows PC since a large majority of my > friends would not want to and could not install Ubuntu. I think all > would be willing to install Ekiga on their Windows PCs though. They > are happy with Skype - from their perspective I am the odd one out > insisting on Ubuntu. Doesn't calling 500 at ekiga.net on Windows work? -- Eugen From kresander at yahoo.com Thu Jan 19 18:48:27 2012 From: kresander at yahoo.com (Ken Resander) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:48:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Difficulties getting started with Ekiga Message-ID: <1326998907.55204.YahooMailClassic@web39404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Eugen, Many thanks for your speedy reply.... I tried once more today Thursday 19 Jan 2012 and found: Echo mode test works with Ekiga on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (the desktop), Ekiga on Ubuntu 10.04.03 LTS (the netbook) and on Windows XP (dual-booted on desktop). DESKTOP AND NETBOOK BOTH USING UBUNTU ? Video and sound works on both computers when double-clicking Neighbour's friendly name to start a call. Video does not work when entering sip-address to start call. Sometimes both computers display local video and sometimes it half works with one computer showing remote video and local video inset picture-in-picture and the other showing just the local video. When local video is shown the Local Video radio button is selected in the view menu. When remote video and inset local video show then the Picture-in-picture radio button is selected, but I have also seen local video showing in main and inset pictures when Picture-in-picture radio button is set. WINDOWS XP ON DESKTOP AND NETBOOK USING UBUNTU There is no Neighbour to click. Entering sip-address behaves incorrectly as described above. Additionally the local video always freezes on the Windows PC and then it never shows as remote on the netbook when the latter is in Picture-in-picture display mode. I have only one computer with Windows so cannot test windows to windows. Q1.?? could this be a GUI programming error? or is it more likely to be a symptom of something else going wrong? I noticed the Local Video radio button is selected in the View menu when Ekiga starts. The other radio buttons are greyed/inactive, but when a call has been established sometimes the Picture-in-picture radio button comes up selected. Q2.? what are the rules for this? How can the user select and control the picture display mode? I am using the LTS version Ubuntu 10.04.03 and Ubuntu 10.04 which provide Ekiga 3.2.6. Ubuntu 11.04 provides Ekiga 3.2.7 in the Ubuntu Software Centre. Q3.? can you make Ekiga 3.2.7 available in the Software Centre for Ubuntu LTS too? 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Is this what you want to know? -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Thu Jan 19 19:24:52 2012 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 20:24:52 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Difficulties getting started with Ekiga In-Reply-To: <1326998907.55204.YahooMailClassic@web39404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1326998907.55204.YahooMailClassic@web39404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F186E04.4020502@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 19/01/12 19:48, Ken Resander wrote: > Hi Eugen, > > Many thanks for your speedy reply.... > > I tried once more today Thursday 19 Jan 2012 and found: > > Echo mode test works with Ekiga on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (the desktop), > Ekiga on Ubuntu 10.04.03 LTS (the netbook) and on Windows XP > (dual-booted on desktop). > > > DESKTOP AND NETBOOK BOTH USING UBUNTU > > Video and sound works on both computers when double-clicking > Neighbour's friendly name to start a call. > > Video does not work when entering sip-address to start call. > Sometimes both computers display local video and sometimes it half > works with one computer showing remote video and local video inset > picture-in-picture and the other showing just the local video. When > local video is shown the Local Video radio button is selected in the > view menu. When remote video and inset local video show then the > Picture-in-picture radio button is selected, but I have also seen > local video showing in main and inset pictures when > Picture-in-picture radio button is set. > > > WINDOWS XP ON DESKTOP AND NETBOOK USING UBUNTU > > There is no Neighbour to click. Entering sip-address behaves > incorrectly as described above. Additionally the local video always > freezes on the Windows PC and then it never shows as remote on the > netbook when the latter is in Picture-in-picture display mode. I have > only one computer with Windows so cannot test windows to windows. > > Q1. could this be a GUI programming error? or is it more likely to > be a symptom of something else going wrong? You need to send us the -d 4 output on the windows machine when the video freezes. > I noticed the Local Video radio button is selected in the View menu > when Ekiga starts. The other radio buttons are greyed/inactive, but > when a call has been established sometimes the Picture-in-picture > radio button comes up selected. > > Q2. what are the rules for this? How can the user select and control > the picture display mode? The rule is very simple: PIP is disabled when there is no communication. If during comm it remains disabled, then the remote video is not available and this is a bug (except when the other party is in your LAN and you do not use Neighbours, as shown above). > I am using the LTS version Ubuntu 10.04.03 and Ubuntu 10.04 which > provide Ekiga 3.2.6. Ubuntu 11.04 provides Ekiga 3.2.7 in the Ubuntu > Software Centre. > > Q3. can you make Ekiga 3.2.7 available in the Software Centre for > Ubuntu LTS too? Ubuntu is managed by a specific team. If you need ekiga 3.2.7, contact them by reporting a bug report to them. -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Thu Jan 19 19:28:34 2012 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 20:28:34 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] P2P h323 IM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F186EE2.9070709@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 31/12/11 03:58, Charles M wrote: > Is instant messaging fully supported on a direct (pc-win to pc-linux) h323 > active call? In SIP it is supported; I suppose it works on h323 too, but I am not sure, it is a supposition. Maybe someone on the list has a more precise answer. -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Thu Jan 19 20:17:34 2012 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 21:17:34 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Full screen video background colour In-Reply-To: <4F0B6FB1.5060808@nexusuk.org> References: <4F0B6FB1.5060808@nexusuk.org> Message-ID: <4F187A5E.6040303@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 09/01/12 23:52, Steve Hill wrote: > > When video conferencing with the video set to full-screen, if the video > aspect ratio doesn't match the monitor's, the part of the screen without > the video on it (e.g. the left and right sides of the screen) is filled > with light-grey. Is it possible to change the colour to black? I've > looked through the code and can't spot where the colour is defined so > any pointers would be helpful (the gtk theme appears to have no effect > on this part of the window). Have you looked in xwindow.cpp (and xvwindow.cpp) from http://git.gnome.org/browse/ekiga/tree/lib/gui ? -- Eugen From t.simonnet at esiee.fr Fri Jan 20 07:25:44 2012 From: t.simonnet at esiee.fr (Thierry Simonnet) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 08:25:44 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] P2P h323 IM In-Reply-To: <4F186EE2.9070709@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <4F186EE2.9070709@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <4F1916F8.20705@esiee.fr> There is a recurrent problem remaining. Referring to RFC3428 : This document proposes the MESSAGE method, an extension to the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) that allows the transfer of Instant Messages. Since the MESSAGE request is an extension to SIP, it inherits all the request routing and security features of that protocol. MESSAGE requests carry the content in the form of MIME body parts. MESSAGE requests do not themselves initiate a SIP dialog; under normal usage each Instant Message stands alone, much like pager messages. MESSAGE requests may be sent in the context of a dialog initiated by some other SIP request. Ekiga can send IM at any time, but doesn't inherit SIP_ID nor registrar to construct a proper message usable during a VoIP call. There is then troubles when using Ekiga with strict IPBX like Asterisk Best regards Thierry Le 19/01/2012 20:28, Eugen Dedu a ?crit : > On 31/12/11 03:58, Charles M wrote: >> Is instant messaging fully supported on a direct (pc-win to pc-linux) >> h323 >> active call? > > In SIP it is supported; I suppose it works on h323 too, but I am not > sure, it is a supposition. Maybe someone on the list has a more > precise answer. > -- Thierry Simonnet ESIEE-Paris Par respect pour l'environnement, n'imprimez ce mail que si n?cessaire -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If I redo everything I should be able to reduce that. But since have the data now, is there a way I can get it across to you, e.g. by using another email address or a different upload site? Or can I ask for less debug output? So no attachments yet. The following is the covering email text.... ? +++++ post with too large attachments starting here? +++++ This post contains some debug data (as attachments). I tried to get debug data for the Windows local video freeze problem, but no window showed when invoking Ekiga from the Windows command line. Tried Echo test and running with a remote peer. I invoked the command line by the Run function on the Windows entry page. The debug output file ekiga_stderr appeared on the Windows Desktop and I am attaching this. However, when invoking Ekiga interactively (by clicking the Ekiga icon) the video shows. ?Why this difference? LOCAL-REMOTE VIDEO DISPLAY PROBLEM Start from commandline with debugging on entering sip-addresses. UBUNTU TO UBUNTU netbook: ubuntu 10.04.03 lts, sip address sip:minnie.mouse at ekiga.com desktop: ubuntu 10.04 lts sip, address sip:donald.duck at ekiga.com 1.? connect and disconnect from netbook with minnie.mouse note: both computers stayed in Local Video mode, so only local local video showed, tried twice. On disconnect got Segmentation error on netbook. debug files: ekigadonald.txt ekigaminnie.txt 2.? connect and disconnect from desktop pc with donald.duck note: desktop pc entered picture-in-picture mode and showed inset local video and lots of small multi-coloured rectangles moving arbitrarily instead of expected remote video data from minnie.mouse. Just by clicking in GUI View menu these changed to the correct live remote video from netbook! Netbook stayed in local mode throughout. Tried a second time and then both computers remained in Local Video mode. Tried third time and got the coloured rectangles again. However, this time they did not go away when I tried all picture-mode options on thw View menu. debug files: ekigadonald2.txt ekigaminnie2.txt? (first attempt) ekigadonald3.txt ekigaminnie3.txt? (second attempt) ekigadonald4.txt ekigaminnie4.txt? (third attempt) WINDOWS XP TO UBUNTU No video showed on the computers when running Ekiga from the command line. When running Ekiga interactively my previous post reports problems similar to those affecting UBUNTU to UBUNTU. MISC 1.? When entering a sip-address from the keyboard I have to click the green handset icon twice in order to start a call. Clicking once should be enough. Best regards Ken -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I tried that but all debug files are larger than the > max of 150000 of that site. I don't know if I can achieve that with > minimum file at present 235KB. > > At the moment the total size of the attachments is 15MB. If I redo > everything I should be able to reduce that. But since have the data > now, is there a way I can get it across to you, e.g. by using another > email address or a different upload site? > > Or can I ask for less debug output? > > So no attachments yet. > > The following is the covering email text.... > > > > +++++ post with too large attachments starting here +++++ This post > contains some debug data (as attachments). > > I tried to get debug data for the Windows local video freeze problem, > but no window showed when invoking Ekiga from the Windows command > line. Tried Echo test and running with a remote peer. I invoked the > command line by the Run function on the Windows entry page. The debug > output file ekiga_stderr appeared on the Windows Desktop and I am > attaching this. However, when invoking Ekiga interactively (by > clicking the Ekiga icon) the video shows. Why this difference? There should be no difference, are you sure you have not done something different, for ex. disabling the video on your computer? I do not understand something: you say no window appears, still you tried echo test?! Finally, in ekiga-stderr I see that no video codec is selected, be sure to select h261 and theora. Have you unchecked them? When you installed ekiga, do you remember what you have chosen in Configuration Assistant at Connection Type page? > LOCAL-REMOTE VIDEO DISPLAY PROBLEM > > Start from commandline with debugging on entering sip-addresses. > > UBUNTU TO UBUNTU > > netbook: ubuntu 10.04.03 lts, sip address sip:minnie.mouse at ekiga.com > desktop: ubuntu 10.04 lts sip, address sip:donald.duck at ekiga.com > > 1. connect and disconnect from netbook with minnie.mouse > > note: both computers stayed in Local Video mode, so only local local > video showed, tried twice. On disconnect got Segmentation error on > netbook. > > debug files: ekigadonald.txt ekigaminnie.txt As I told you, you cannot call reliably a computer in the same network using ... at ekiga.net. And the segmentation error was fixed after your ekiga version. > 2. connect and disconnect from desktop pc with donald.duck > > note: desktop pc entered picture-in-picture mode and showed inset > local video and lots of small multi-coloured rectangles moving > arbitrarily instead of expected remote video data from minnie.mouse. > Just by clicking in GUI View menu these changed to the correct live > remote video from netbook! Netbook stayed in local mode throughout. > Tried a second time and then both computers remained in Local Video > mode. Tried third time and got the coloured rectangles again. > However, this time they did not go away when I tried all picture-mode > options on thw View menu. > > debug files: ekigadonald2.txt ekigaminnie2.txt (first attempt) > ekigadonald3.txt ekigaminnie3.txt (second attempt) ekigadonald4.txt > ekigaminnie4.txt (third attempt) I do not have enough time to check the video multi-coloured rectangles, especially that there are chances that it got fixed in a version of ekiga more recent than your version. > WINDOWS XP TO UBUNTU > > No video showed on the computers when running Ekiga from the command > line. When running Ekiga interactively my previous post reports > problems similar to those affecting UBUNTU to UBUNTU. > > > > MISC > > 1. When entering a sip-address from the keyboard I have to click the > green handset icon twice in order to start a call. Clicking once > should be enough. This is very simple to change, but I think other users disagree. -- Eugen From kresander at yahoo.com Tue Jan 24 10:22:08 2012 From: kresander at yahoo.com (Ken Resander) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 02:22:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Difficulties getting started with Ekiga In-Reply-To: <4F1D27D3.8000101@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <1327400528.6658.YahooMailClassic@web39403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 23/1/12, Eugen Dedu wrote: From: Eugen Dedu Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Difficulties getting started with Ekiga To: "Ekiga mailing list" Date: Monday, 23 January, 2012, 5:26 PM On 20/01/12 20:27, Ken Resander wrote: > Hi Eugen, > > I just tried sending with 8 attachments of debug data, but total > message became too large and the email was rejected because of this. > > I provided debug data for both peers for four different cases, but > there was a lot of debug info generated and the files rapidly became > quite large. I noticed you want a maximum of about 35kb per debug. I > don't know if that is possible or how to achieve it. You also suggest > an upload site. I tried that but all debug files are larger than the > max of 150000 of that site. I don't know if I can achieve that with > minimum file at present 235KB. > > At the moment the total size of the attachments is 15MB. If I redo > everything I should be able to reduce that. But since have the data > now, is there a way I can get it across to you, e.g. by using another > email address or a different upload site? > > Or can I ask for less debug output? > > So no attachments yet. > > The following is the covering email text.... > > > > +++++ post with too large attachments starting here? +++++ This post > contains some debug data (as attachments). > > I tried to get debug data for the Windows local video freeze problem, > but no window showed when invoking Ekiga from the Windows command > line. Tried Echo test and running with a remote peer. I invoked the > command line by the Run function on the Windows entry page. The debug > output file ekiga_stderr appeared on the Windows Desktop and I am > attaching this. However, when invoking Ekiga interactively (by > clicking the Ekiga icon) the video shows. Why this difference? There should be no difference, are you sure you have not done something different, for ex. disabling the video on your computer? RESPONSE: video not disabled. I do not understand something: you say no window appears, still you tried echo test?! RESPONSE:? yes,? but phrase? 'window appears' is wrong/incomplete, should be 'window content appears' (i.e. the local video data). Finally, in ekiga-stderr I see that no video codec is selected, be sure to select h261 and theora.? Have you unchecked them?? When you installed ekiga, do you remember what you have chosen in Configuration Assistant at Connection Type page? RESPONSE: I have just redone the Configuration Assistant when Ekiga is invoked from the command line. There are no video codecs to select (no checkboxes), but when running ekiga interactively there are video codec choices and all are ticked. > LOCAL-REMOTE VIDEO DISPLAY PROBLEM > > Start from commandline with debugging on entering sip-addresses. > > UBUNTU TO UBUNTU > > netbook: ubuntu 10.04.03 lts, sip address sip:minnie.mouse at ekiga.com > desktop: ubuntu 10.04 lts sip, address sip:donald.duck at ekiga.com > > 1.? connect and disconnect from netbook with minnie.mouse > > note: both computers stayed in Local Video mode, so only local local > video showed, tried twice. On disconnect got Segmentation error on > netbook. > > debug files: ekigadonald.txt ekigaminnie.txt As I told you, you cannot call reliably a computer in the same network using ... at ekiga.net.? RESPONSE: I don't understand why this is not possible. If this is never going to be possible, what is the work round?? And the segmentation error was fixed after your ekiga version. > 2.? connect and disconnect from desktop pc with donald.duck > > note: desktop pc entered picture-in-picture mode and showed inset > local video and lots of small multi-coloured rectangles moving > arbitrarily instead of expected remote video data from minnie.mouse. > Just by clicking in GUI View menu these changed to the correct live > remote video from netbook! Netbook stayed in local mode throughout. > Tried a second time and then both computers remained in Local Video > mode. Tried third time and got the coloured rectangles again. > However, this time they did not go away when I tried all picture-mode > options on thw View menu. > > debug files: ekigadonald2.txt ekigaminnie2.txt? (first attempt) > ekigadonald3.txt ekigaminnie3.txt? (second attempt) ekigadonald4.txt > ekigaminnie4.txt? (third attempt) I do not have enough time to check the video multi-coloured rectangles, especially that there are chances that it got fixed in a version of ekiga more recent than your version. RESPONSE:? What do I need to do in order to get a more recent binary version for Windows XP and Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and Ubuntu 10.04.03 LTS? > WINDOWS XP TO UBUNTU > > No video showed on the computers when running Ekiga from the command > line. When running Ekiga interactively my previous post reports > problems similar to those affecting UBUNTU to UBUNTU. > > > > MISC > > 1.? When entering a sip-address from the keyboard I have to click the > green handset icon twice in order to start a call. Clicking once > should be enough. This is very simple to change, but I think other users disagree. RESPONSE:? I think the red and green handset are buttons so it would be more natural to click them once. -- Eugen Best regards RESPONSE text by Ken _______________________________________________ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list at gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kresander at yahoo.com Tue Jan 24 11:37:06 2012 From: kresander at yahoo.com (Ken Resander) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 03:37:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Difficulties getting started with Ekiga Message-ID: <1327405026.77897.YahooMailClassic@web39404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My last post in thread 'Difficulties getting started with Ekiga' was treated as spam by yahoo. I could see it in my yahoo spam folder instead of the Input tray. Don't understand why, so here again are my RESPONSEs only: ? ??? There should be no difference, are you sure you have not done something ??? different, for ex. disabling the video on your computer? ??? RESPONSE: video not disabled. ??? I do not understand something: you say no window appears, still you ??? tried echo test?! ??? RESPONSE:? yes,? but my phrase? 'window appears' is wrong/incomplete, should be 'window content appears' (i.e. the local video data). ??? Finally, in ekiga-stderr I see that no video codec is selected, be sure ??? to select h261 and theora.? Have you unchecked them?? When you installed ??? ekiga, do you remember what you have chosen in Configuration Assistant ??? at Connection Type page? ??? RESPONSE: I have just redone the Configuration Assistant when Ekiga is invoked from the command line. There are no video codecs to select (no checkboxes), but when running ekiga interactively there are video codec choices and all are ticked. ??? I do not have enough time to check the video multi-coloured rectangles, ??? especially that there are chances that it got fixed in a version of ??? ekiga more recent than your version. ??? RESPONSE:? What do I need to do in order to get a more recent BINARY version for Windows XP, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and Ubuntu 10.04.03 LTS? As I told you, you cannot call reliably a computer in the same network using ... at ekiga.net. RESPONSE: I don't understand why this is not possible. If it is never going to be possible, what is the work round? ??? > 1.? When entering a sip-address from the keyboard I have to click the ??? > green handset icon twice in order to start a call. Clicking once ??? > should be enough. ??? This is very simple to change, but I think other users disagree. ??? RESPONSE:? I think the red and green handset icons act like buttons so it would be more natural to click them once. ? ??? Best regards ??? Ken -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From komusica at gmail.com Thu Jan 26 15:32:51 2012 From: komusica at gmail.com (Konika Chawla) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:32:51 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] call phone Message-ID: Hi Is it possible to call a person on mobile number through Ekiga? Something like Actionvoip on windows Thanks -- With regards, Konika Chawla Ph.D student Department of Biology, Realfagbygget, NTNU, Norway Phone:+4773551279 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Thu Jan 26 15:36:23 2012 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:36:23 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] call phone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F2172F7.2070205@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 26/01/12 16:32, Konika Chawla wrote: > Hi > Is it possible to call a person on mobile number through Ekiga? Yes, it is possible by buying an account from such a provider. But before buying, make sure that ekiga works on your machine by making an account on ekiga.net and calling the echo test (500 at ekiga.net). -- Eugen From michele.sorcinelli at gmail.com Thu Jan 26 15:49:50 2012 From: michele.sorcinelli at gmail.com (mikefender) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 07:49:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Conference calls end after about 30 seconds Message-ID: <1327592990235-4330712.post@n4.nabble.com> Hey There. I just installed Ekiga on Ubuntu 10.10 (Linux 3.2.1 amd64) and tried the call test on 520 at ekiga.net without troubles... But, when i try to enter a conference room (like 501xxxx at ekiga.net), after about 30 seconds, the call ends with this message: "local user cleared the call", and this happens everytime. There's anybody that know this issue? -- View this message in context: http://ekiga.1756082.n4.nabble.com/Conference-calls-end-after-about-30-seconds-tp4330712p4330712.html Sent from the Ekiga General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Thu Jan 26 18:18:33 2012 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:18:33 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Conference calls end after about 30 seconds In-Reply-To: <1327592990235-4330712.post@n4.nabble.com> References: <1327592990235-4330712.post@n4.nabble.com> Message-ID: <4F2198F9.3070403@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 26/01/12 16:49, mikefender wrote: > Hey There. > > I just installed Ekiga on Ubuntu 10.10 (Linux 3.2.1 amd64) and tried the > call test on 520 at ekiga.net without troubles... > > But, when i try to enter a conference room (like 501xxxx at ekiga.net), after > about 30 seconds, the call ends with this message: "local user cleared the > call", and this happens everytime. I would say that conference rooms are not tested, so they might not work correctly. If you really wish to know why they do not work, send us the -d 4 output. -- Eugen From kresander at yahoo.com Thu Jan 26 18:52:14 2012 From: kresander at yahoo.com (Ken Resander) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:52:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Experimenting with telnet and Ekiga Message-ID: <1327603934.84010.YahooMailClassic@web39402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In the past I have used telnet for practising with protocols like smtp, pop, ftp etc while reading the rfcs. For example, I could connect via telnet to an smtp server by entering telnet smtp.ntlworld 25 from the command line and then issue smtp commands and view the smtp responses from the server. Very useful! I would like to use telnet with ekiga in a similar way, for example by calling the echo test function at sip:500 at ekiga.net, issue INVITE, ACK, BYE etc and observe what happens. I tried connecting by entering: $ telnet ekiga.net Trying 86.64.162.35... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused and also: $ telnet ekiga.net 5060 Trying 86.64.162.35... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused but could get not beyond this point. Would be grateful for advice. Ken -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Thu Jan 26 19:25:21 2012 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 20:25:21 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Experimenting with telnet and Ekiga In-Reply-To: <1327603934.84010.YahooMailClassic@web39402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1327603934.84010.YahooMailClassic@web39402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F21A8A1.9090202@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 26/01/12 19:52, Ken Resander wrote: > In the past I have used telnet for practising with protocols like smtp, pop, ftp etc while reading the rfcs. For example, I could connect via telnet to an smtp server by entering telnet smtp.ntlworld 25 from the command line and then issue smtp commands and view the smtp responses from the server. Very useful! > > I would like to use telnet with ekiga in a similar way, for example by calling the echo test function at sip:500 at ekiga.net, issue INVITE, ACK, BYE etc and observe what happens. I tried connecting by entering: > $ telnet ekiga.net > Trying 86.64.162.35... > telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused > > and also: > > $ telnet ekiga.net 5060 > Trying 86.64.162.35... > telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused > > but could get not beyond this point. Contrary to the protocols you used in the past which use TCP, SIP is generally based on UDP, and ekiga.net uses UDP exclusively. As such, telnet does not work. If you want to play with, you can either use a script like the one presented at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=529082#c1, or better use tiny programs doing configurable client and server work, I do not remember what is their name... -- Eugen From michele.sorcinelli at gmail.com Thu Jan 26 19:37:26 2012 From: michele.sorcinelli at gmail.com (mikefender) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 11:37:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Conference calls end after about 30 seconds In-Reply-To: <4F2198F9.3070403@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <1327592990235-4330712.post@n4.nabble.com> <4F2198F9.3070403@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <1327606646863-4331550.post@n4.nabble.com> Ok, i printed the output on this file, i hope this will help. 1) I launched Ekiga with -d 4 parameter 2) I called sip:501 at ekiga.net 3) The call ended after 30 seconds 4) I closed Ekiga. http://ekiga.1756082.n4.nabble.com/file/n4331550/debug.txt debug.txt -- View this message in context: http://ekiga.1756082.n4.nabble.com/Conference-calls-end-after-about-30-seconds-tp4330712p4331550.html Sent from the Ekiga General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From thedogfarted at gmail.com Fri Jan 27 16:01:59 2012 From: thedogfarted at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?SsSBbmlzIFJ1a8WhxIFucw==?=) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:01:59 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Difficulties getting started with Ekiga In-Reply-To: <1327405026.77897.YahooMailClassic@web39404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1327405026.77897.YahooMailClassic@web39404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Ken Resander wrote: > As I told you, you cannot call reliably a computer in the same network > using ... at ekiga.net. > > RESPONSE: I don't understand why this is not possible. If it is never going to be possible, what is the work round? It's a very complex topic. First of all, when you make a call to ... at ekiga.net, Ekiga uses the public IP of your LAN to set up the connection; the same goes for incoming calls. Assuming there are no NAT issues, you end up with a call where both parties send their audio to the public IP of the router. The problem is that most routers do not loopback LAN traffic sent to it's public IP (ie. the public IP is essentially unreachable from the LAN), and you get no audio. There are solutions for this, but that needs changes both to Ekiga code and ekiga.net configuration. A workaround would be to set up an outbound SIP proxy on the LAN, which would detect LAN-LAN calls and rewrite SIP packets/fork when necessary. Cheers -- Ian From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Sat Jan 28 04:57:58 2012 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 06:57:58 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ATOM/RSS News Feeds on http://ekiga.org/ In-Reply-To: <20120115185325.351a1d00@acer> References: <20120113223022.59037037@acer> <1326554648.14317.160.camel@athena.fbx.proxad.net> <20120115004854.074b1d14@acer> <1326603025.14317.182.camel@athena.fbx.proxad.net> <20120115185325.351a1d00@acer> Message-ID: <20120128065758.3a9fef4a@acer> On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:53:25 +0200 Genghis Khan wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 05:50:25 +0100 > Yannick wrote: > > > Indeed, and this is a bug. It only appears on the home page. I > > choose to not fix it because it would involve either hacking drupal > > core (which adds line 12 on the home page) or a module of drupal > > (which adds line 8 to all pages), but I do not have much spare time > > and I need to ease the maintenance, i.e. rely on easy updates. My > > bad. > > > > The best solution will be an official fix for the module. The bug > > report is here: http://drupal.org/node/884746 > > > Good idea, and thanks again :-) > An ATOM Feed of the recent activity of the development of Ekiga From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Sat Jan 28 05:30:02 2012 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (genghiskhan) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 07:30:02 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga Interview In-Reply-To: <4EA9347A.5090500@seconix.com> References: <4EA9347A.5090500@seconix.com> Message-ID: <20120128073002.0ac29ab7@acer> On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:37:46 +0200 Damien Sandras wrote: > Hello everyone, > > > Josette Garcia, from O'Reilly, published an interview about Ekiga. > > You can read it here : > http://www.josetteorama.com/interview/ekiga-open-source-softphone-video-conferencing-and-instant-messenger/ > > I am slowly getting back into business, and my view about Ekiga has > changed a lot. > > I will try to post something on my blog soon. > > Enjoy the reading, > > Damien > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > Please, if you may, copy this email message to a new entry in the Ekiga Blog . From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Sat Jan 28 05:55:04 2012 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 07:55:04 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] The Ekiga Blog (net versus org) Message-ID: <20120128075504.607f2f9a@acer> Would it be preferable to host the blog at ekiga.org instead of eiga.net? From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Sat Jan 28 06:10:50 2012 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 08:10:50 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Do not allow capital letters in user name at ekiga.net Message-ID: <20120128081050.0d1781ab@acer> Registering an account with capital letters will result in an inaccessible account when trying to use such an account with Ekiga 3.2.7 as I recall. From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Sat Jan 28 07:15:40 2012 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:15:40 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Do not allow capital letters in user name at ekiga.net In-Reply-To: <20120128081050.0d1781ab@acer> References: <20120128081050.0d1781ab@acer> Message-ID: <20120128091540.6ee6b268@acer> On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 08:10:50 +0200 Genghis Khan wrote: > Registering an account with capital letters will result in an > inaccessible account when trying to use such an account with Ekiga > 3.2.7 as I recall. > In other hand, you can say that Ekiga can't read capital letters (bug). From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Sun Jan 29 06:25:49 2012 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 08:25:49 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ATOM/RSS News Feeds on http://ekiga.org/ In-Reply-To: <20120128065758.3a9fef4a@acer> References: <20120113223022.59037037@acer> <1326554648.14317.160.camel@athena.fbx.proxad.net> <20120115004854.074b1d14@acer> <1326603025.14317.182.camel@athena.fbx.proxad.net> <20120115185325.351a1d00@acer> <20120128065758.3a9fef4a@acer> Message-ID: <20120129082549.75c467c0@acer> On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 06:57:58 +0200 Genghis Khan wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:53:25 +0200 > Genghis Khan wrote: > > > On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 05:50:25 +0100 > > Yannick wrote: > > > > > Indeed, and this is a bug. It only appears on the home page. I > > > choose to not fix it because it would involve either hacking > > > drupal core (which adds line 12 on the home page) or a module of > > > drupal (which adds line 8 to all pages), but I do not have much > > > spare time and I need to ease the maintenance, i.e. rely on easy > > > updates. My bad. > > > > > > The best solution will be an official fix for the module. The bug > > > report is here: http://drupal.org/node/884746 > > > > > Good idea, and thanks again :-) > > > An ATOM Feed of the recent activity of the development of Ekiga rel="alternate" type="application/atom+xml" title="Ekiga - Recent > Activity" href="http://git.gnome.org/browse/ekiga/atom/?h=master" /> > What do you think about replacing the link which associated with the Syndicate content (RSS) icon with Syndicate content (ATOM/RSS) ---------------------------- If you are looking for ...., you can ....; see below for syndicate content information. Ekiga.org Mailing List (Help & Support) Mailing List (Development) Recent Activity Documentation Project From dsandras at seconix.com Mon Jan 30 17:06:14 2012 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:06:14 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Another interview Message-ID: <4F26CE06.2060408@seconix.com> Hi, You can follow the links here : English version: http://en.osarena.net/editorial/interviews/interview-with-damien-sandras-from-ekiga.html Greek version: http://osarena.net/interviews/sinentefxi-me-ton-damien-sandras-tou-ekiga.html Thank you Billy for the nice interview ! Damien From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Mon Jan 30 17:38:55 2012 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:38:55 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [Ekiga-devel-list] Another interview In-Reply-To: <4F26CE06.2060408@seconix.com> References: <4F26CE06.2060408@seconix.com> Message-ID: <20120130193855.72862cb1@acer> Thank you for another good interview. Congratulations for becoming a father! (during the Spring) May you have a good, loving, educated, caring, big, and robust family. On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:06:14 +0100 Damien Sandras wrote: > Hi, > > > You can follow the links here : > English version: > http://en.osarena.net/editorial/interviews/interview-with-damien-sandras-from-ekiga.html > Greek version: > http://osarena.net/interviews/sinentefxi-me-ton-damien-sandras-tou-ekiga.html > > Thank you Billy for the nice interview ! > > Damien > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-devel-list mailing list > ekiga-devel-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Mon Jan 30 18:25:32 2012 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:25:32 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Advertisements on Ekiga.org with OpenX? Message-ID: <20120130202532.02f01f8f@acer> Dear everyone Please submit your opinion (yes & no) about this issue. Your opinion IS important. Dear Admins Please put advertisements related to SIP technology (SIP telephones or SIP server providers (e.g. Diamondcard) etc.) on Ekiga.org ...with contracts, of course, not just ads for fun :-P Please use YOUR OWN advertisement platform/server (controlled exclusively by you) like OpenX. http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpadsnew/ http://www.openx.com/ OpenX (phpAdsNew) is an open-source ad server, with an integrated banner management interface and tracking system for gathering statistics. With OpenX you can easily rotate paid banners and your own in-house advertisements. I believe that advertisements, of trusted good (e.g. SIP telephones, or businesses that can install SIP to land line gateways) and service providers (e.g. SIP to land line) will increase the popularity of the SIP technology and the use Ekiga. The more various uses we will be reading about, the more SIP users are going to be. Important note: In order to prevent future embarrassment and joylessness with pay services (e.g. someone was paying for Diamondcard and Ekiga did not always operated well), please suggest other SIP clients (one or two) in case Ekiga is not working well, or, as you do here in the mailing lists, asking from the users to test Ekiga with a free ekiga.net account and only after use pay services. I do believe that this should be proposed by the service providers, not by the Ekiga staff. Thank you for reading this message. From dsandras at seconix.com Mon Jan 30 18:22:28 2012 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:22:28 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Advertisements on Ekiga.org with OpenX? In-Reply-To: <20120130202532.02f01f8f@acer> References: <20120130202532.02f01f8f@acer> Message-ID: <4F26DFE4.60205@seconix.com> Hi, I'm not against some targetted ads... Damien Le 30/01/12 19:25, Genghis Khan a ?crit : > Dear everyone > > Please submit your opinion (yes& no) about this issue. > Your opinion IS important. > > > Dear Admins > > Please put advertisements related to SIP technology (SIP telephones or > SIP server providers (e.g. Diamondcard) etc.) on Ekiga.org > ...with contracts, of course, not just ads for fun :-P > > Please use YOUR OWN advertisement platform/server (controlled > exclusively by you) like OpenX. > http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpadsnew/ > http://www.openx.com/ > > OpenX (phpAdsNew) is an open-source ad server, with an integrated > banner management interface and tracking system for gathering > statistics. With OpenX you can easily rotate paid banners and your own > in-house advertisements. > > > I believe that advertisements, of trusted good (e.g. SIP telephones, or > businesses that can install SIP to land line gateways) and service > providers (e.g. SIP to land line) will increase the popularity of the > SIP technology and the use Ekiga. The more various uses we will be > reading about, the more SIP users are going to be. > > Important note: In order to prevent future embarrassment and joylessness > with pay services (e.g. someone was paying for Diamondcard and Ekiga > did not always operated well), please suggest other SIP clients (one or > two) in case Ekiga is not working well, or, as you do here in the > mailing lists, asking from the users to test Ekiga with a free ekiga.net > account and only after use pay services. > I do believe that this should be proposed by the service providers, not > by the Ekiga staff. > > > Thank you for reading this message. > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From dsandras at seconix.com Mon Jan 30 18:22:35 2012 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:22:35 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Advertisements on Ekiga.org with OpenX? In-Reply-To: <20120130202532.02f01f8f@acer> References: <20120130202532.02f01f8f@acer> Message-ID: <4F26DFEB.20007@seconix.com> Hi, I'm not against some targetted ads... Damien Le 30/01/12 19:25, Genghis Khan a ?crit : > Dear everyone > > Please submit your opinion (yes& no) about this issue. > Your opinion IS important. > > > Dear Admins > > Please put advertisements related to SIP technology (SIP telephones or > SIP server providers (e.g. Diamondcard) etc.) on Ekiga.org > ...with contracts, of course, not just ads for fun :-P > > Please use YOUR OWN advertisement platform/server (controlled > exclusively by you) like OpenX. > http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpadsnew/ > http://www.openx.com/ > > OpenX (phpAdsNew) is an open-source ad server, with an integrated > banner management interface and tracking system for gathering > statistics. With OpenX you can easily rotate paid banners and your own > in-house advertisements. > > > I believe that advertisements, of trusted good (e.g. SIP telephones, or > businesses that can install SIP to land line gateways) and service > providers (e.g. SIP to land line) will increase the popularity of the > SIP technology and the use Ekiga. The more various uses we will be > reading about, the more SIP users are going to be. > > Important note: In order to prevent future embarrassment and joylessness > with pay services (e.g. someone was paying for Diamondcard and Ekiga > did not always operated well), please suggest other SIP clients (one or > two) in case Ekiga is not working well, or, as you do here in the > mailing lists, asking from the users to test Ekiga with a free ekiga.net > account and only after use pay services. > I do believe that this should be proposed by the service providers, not > by the Ekiga staff. > > > Thank you for reading this message. > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From dsandras at seconix.com Mon Jan 30 18:23:02 2012 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:23:02 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [Ekiga-devel-list] Another interview In-Reply-To: <20120130193855.72862cb1@acer> References: <4F26CE06.2060408@seconix.com> <20120130193855.72862cb1@acer> Message-ID: <4F26E006.5030109@seconix.com> Thanks :-) I'll bring my blog back to life and put the links there. Le 30/01/12 18:38, Genghis Khan a ?crit : > Thank you for another good interview. > > Congratulations for becoming a father! (during the Spring) > May you have a good, loving, educated, caring, big, and robust family. > > > On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:06:14 +0100 > Damien Sandras wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> >> You can follow the links here : >> English version: >> http://en.osarena.net/editorial/interviews/interview-with-damien-sandras-from-ekiga.html >> Greek version: >> http://osarena.net/interviews/sinentefxi-me-ton-damien-sandras-tou-ekiga.html >> >> Thank you Billy for the nice interview ! >> >> Damien >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ekiga-devel-list mailing list >> ekiga-devel-list at gnome.org >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Mon Jan 30 18:58:33 2012 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:58:33 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Advertisements on Ekiga.org with OpenX? In-Reply-To: <4F26DFE4.60205@seconix.com> References: <20120130202532.02f01f8f@acer> <4F26DFE4.60205@seconix.com> Message-ID: <20120130205833.4121535c@acer> SIP Gateways: I am very impressed with the SIP gateways like the toll free which you provide to us and I think that many people, if only they knew, are interested in establishing such gateways for their own telephone lines, with SIP hardware phone and exchange permissions with friends abroad in order to reduce their phone bills. THIS you can do with SIP, which Ekiga supports, NOT with Skype. People need to understand that Microsoft had bought the number of the users that are bound to the shackles of Skype, not the technology which seem to be heading to open source one like SIP and XMPP, and yet still limited to the domains and servers of Skype. On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:22:28 +0100 Damien Sandras wrote: > Hi, > > > I'm not against some targetted ads... > > Damien > > Le 30/01/12 19:25, Genghis Khan a ?crit : > > Dear everyone > > > > Please submit your opinion (yes& no) about this issue. > > Your opinion IS important. > > > > > > Dear Admins > > > > Please put advertisements related to SIP technology (SIP telephones > > or SIP server providers (e.g. Diamondcard) etc.) on Ekiga.org > > ...with contracts, of course, not just ads for fun :-P > > > > Please use YOUR OWN advertisement platform/server (controlled > > exclusively by you) like OpenX. > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpadsnew/ > > http://www.openx.com/ > > > > OpenX (phpAdsNew) is an open-source ad server, with an integrated > > banner management interface and tracking system for gathering > > statistics. With OpenX you can easily rotate paid banners and your > > own in-house advertisements. > > > > > > I believe that advertisements, of trusted good (e.g. SIP > > telephones, or businesses that can install SIP to land line > > gateways) and service providers (e.g. SIP to land line) will > > increase the popularity of the SIP technology and the use Ekiga. > > The more various uses we will be reading about, the more SIP users > > are going to be. > > > > Important note: In order to prevent future embarrassment and > > joylessness with pay services (e.g. someone was paying for > > Diamondcard and Ekiga did not always operated well), please suggest > > other SIP clients (one or two) in case Ekiga is not working well, > > or, as you do here in the mailing lists, asking from the users to > > test Ekiga with a free ekiga.net account and only after use pay > > services. I do believe that this should be proposed by the service > > providers, not by the Ekiga staff. > > > > > > Thank you for reading this message. > > _______________________________________________ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From mig-system at videotron.ca Mon Jan 30 21:02:16 2012 From: mig-system at videotron.ca (mig-system at videotron.ca) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:02:16 -0500 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Advertisements on Ekiga.org with OpenX? In-Reply-To: <20120130202532.02f01f8f@acer> References: <20120130202532.02f01f8f@acer> Message-ID: I'm all for it ! Mike On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:25:32 -0500, Genghis Khan wrote: > Dear everyone > > Please submit your opinion (yes & no) about this issue. > Your opinion IS important. > > > Dear Admins > > Please put advertisements related to SIP technology (SIP telephones or > SIP server providers (e.g. Diamondcard) etc.) on Ekiga.org > ...with contracts, of course, not just ads for fun :-P > > Please use YOUR OWN advertisement platform/server (controlled > exclusively by you) like OpenX. > http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpadsnew/ > http://www.openx.com/ > > OpenX (phpAdsNew) is an open-source ad server, with an integrated > banner management interface and tracking system for gathering > statistics. With OpenX you can easily rotate paid banners and your own > in-house advertisements. > > > I believe that advertisements, of trusted good (e.g. SIP telephones, or > businesses that can install SIP to land line gateways) and service > providers (e.g. SIP to land line) will increase the popularity of the > SIP technology and the use Ekiga. The more various uses we will be > reading about, the more SIP users are going to be. > > Important note: In order to prevent future embarrassment and joylessness > with pay services (e.g. someone was paying for Diamondcard and Ekiga > did not always operated well), please suggest other SIP clients (one or > two) in case Ekiga is not working well, or, as you do here in the > mailing lists, asking from the users to test Ekiga with a free ekiga.net > account and only after use pay services. > I do believe that this should be proposed by the service providers, not > by the Ekiga staff. > > > Thank you for reading this message. > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From stuart at gathman.org Mon Jan 30 22:31:00 2012 From: stuart at gathman.org (Stuart D Gathman) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:31:00 -0500 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Advertisements on Ekiga.org with OpenX? In-Reply-To: <20120130202532.02f01f8f@acer> References: <20120130202532.02f01f8f@acer> Message-ID: <4F271A24.4080905@gathman.org> Long ago, Nostradamus foresaw that on 01/30/2012 01:25 PM, Genghis Khan would write: > Please submit your opinion (yes& no) about this issue. > Your opinion IS important. > > > Dear Admins > > Please put advertisements related to SIP technology (SIP telephones or > SIP server providers (e.g. Diamondcard) etc.) on Ekiga.org > ...with contracts, of course, not just ads for fun :-P > +1 I really like targeted ads, PROVIDED they do not "pop up", "pop-over" or use flash (gif/png animation is ok). Nice well-behaved targeted banner ads keep me informed of services available for the technology I am reading about. It is ok to pop-up and even use sound when you click on an ad. Another possibility to consider: review forums for SIP related services. Or would that be too likely to make a dissed company sue? From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Tue Jan 31 06:57:30 2012 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 08:57:30 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Advertisements on Ekiga.org with OpenX? In-Reply-To: <4F271A24.4080905@gathman.org> References: <20120130202532.02f01f8f@acer> <4F271A24.4080905@gathman.org> Message-ID: <20120131085730.4bdc291e@acer> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:31:00 -0500 Stuart D Gathman wrote: > I really like targeted ads, PROVIDED they do not "pop up", "pop-over" > or use flash (gif/png animation is ok). Nice well-behaved targeted > banner ads keep me informed of services available for the technology > I am reading about. It is ok to pop-up and even use sound when you > click on an ad. > I too would like to see GIF, JPEG, PNG (static and animated). For your information: There is a new type of animated banners with CSS3 (alternative to SWF) Horizontal http://tympanus.net/Tutorials/AnimatedWebBanners/index.html Vertical http://tympanus.net/Tutorials/AnimatedWebBanners/index2.html I don't like the banners on this website, they are consuming more than 40% of my CPU power, but at least don't take 110% like Flash/SWF does. CSS3 would be nice if it won't consume so much CPU, and if it is possible to make animated CSS3 banners to consume low rate of CPU power like most GIF and PNG banners do, then I woudn't have any issue with it. You can use CSS to switch images on mouse hovering, which is very nice. I have found this animated CSS3 banner website at OccupyFlash (TVV1tT3R) Occupy Flash - The movement to rid the world of the Flash Player plugin http://www.reddit.com/domain/occupyflash.org/ http://occupyflash.org/ From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Tue Jan 31 10:02:50 2012 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 11:02:50 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Advertisements on Ekiga.org with OpenX? In-Reply-To: <20120130202532.02f01f8f@acer> References: <20120130202532.02f01f8f@acer> Message-ID: <4F27BC4A.3020003@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 30/01/12 19:25, Genghis Khan wrote: > Dear everyone > > Please submit your opinion (yes& no) about this issue. > Your opinion IS important. I do not like ads. But if other people prefer them, I am not too much against them (provided that they are not disturbing). Eugen > Dear Admins > > Please put advertisements related to SIP technology (SIP telephones or > SIP server providers (e.g. Diamondcard) etc.) on Ekiga.org > ...with contracts, of course, not just ads for fun :-P > > Please use YOUR OWN advertisement platform/server (controlled > exclusively by you) like OpenX. > http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpadsnew/ > http://www.openx.com/ > > OpenX (phpAdsNew) is an open-source ad server, with an integrated > banner management interface and tracking system for gathering > statistics. With OpenX you can easily rotate paid banners and your own > in-house advertisements. > > > I believe that advertisements, of trusted good (e.g. SIP telephones, or > businesses that can install SIP to land line gateways) and service > providers (e.g. SIP to land line) will increase the popularity of the > SIP technology and the use Ekiga. The more various uses we will be > reading about, the more SIP users are going to be. > > Important note: In order to prevent future embarrassment and joylessness > with pay services (e.g. someone was paying for Diamondcard and Ekiga > did not always operated well), please suggest other SIP clients (one or > two) in case Ekiga is not working well, or, as you do here in the > mailing lists, asking from the users to test Ekiga with a free ekiga.net > account and only after use pay services. > I do believe that this should be proposed by the service providers, not > by the Ekiga staff. From michele.sorcinelli at gmail.com Wed Jan 25 16:45:42 2012 From: michele.sorcinelli at gmail.com (mikefender) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 08:45:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Local user cleared the call after few seconds Message-ID: <1327509942475-4327747.post@n4.nabble.com> Hey There. I just installed Ekiga on Ubuntu 10.10 (Linux 3.2.1 amd64) and tried the call test on 520 at ekiga.net without troubles... But, when i try to enter a conference room, after about 20 seconds, the call ends with this message: "local user cleared the call", and this happens everytime. There's anybody that know this issue? -- View this message in context: http://ekiga.1756082.n4.nabble.com/Local-user-cleared-the-call-after-few-seconds-tp4327747p4327747.html Sent from the Ekiga General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From jpaulb at eastlink.ca Mon Jan 30 20:45:04 2012 From: jpaulb at eastlink.ca (J. Paul Bissonnette) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:45:04 -0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Acoustic feedback Message-ID: <20120130164504.7e21867d@maple> I am wondering if I am missing a setting some where. The system is Xububtu 11.10, logitech webcam pro 9000, Bose companion speakers. The annoying issue is that is I have the volume loud enough to hear the speakers during an echo test the microphone is too sensitive and causes acoustic feed back. Echo cancellation is on, it does reduce the feedback considerably I have adjusted the jitter buffer from 200 - 1500 ms. this doesn''t seem to have much affect. With the same volume levels skype does not cause any feedback. From ford.davidj at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 23:35:46 2012 From: ford.davidj at gmail.com (David Ford) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:35:46 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Advertisements on Ekiga.org with OpenX? In-Reply-To: <20120130202532.02f01f8f@acer> References: <20120130202532.02f01f8f@acer> Message-ID: On 30 January 2012 18:25, Genghis Khan wrote: > Dear everyone > > Please submit your opinion (yes & no) about this issue. > Your opinion IS important. > > > Dear Admins > > Please put advertisements related to SIP technology (SIP telephones or > SIP server providers (e.g. Diamondcard) etc.) on Ekiga.org > ...with contracts, of course, not just ads for fun :-P > > Please use YOUR OWN advertisement platform/server (controlled > exclusively by you) like OpenX. > http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpadsnew/ > http://www.openx.com/ > > OpenX (phpAdsNew) is an open-source ad server, with an integrated > banner management interface and tracking system for gathering > statistics. With OpenX you can easily rotate paid banners and your own > in-house advertisements. > > > I believe that advertisements, of trusted good (e.g. SIP telephones, or > businesses that can install SIP to land line gateways) and service > providers (e.g. SIP to land line) will increase the popularity of the > SIP technology and the use Ekiga. The more various uses we will be > reading about, the more SIP users are going to be. > > Important note: In order to prevent future embarrassment and joylessness > with pay services (e.g. someone was paying for Diamondcard and Ekiga > did not always operated well), please suggest other SIP clients (one or > two) in case Ekiga is not working well, or, as you do here in the > mailing lists, asking from the users to test Ekiga with a free ekiga.net > account and only after use pay services. > I do believe that this should be proposed by the service providers, not > by the Ekiga staff. > > > Thank you for reading this message. > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > Sounds a good idea. Will any funds generated from the ads go to help fund ekiga in some way - if so how? I think the community should know what's happening if there is money involved - just to keep things 'open source' David (For instance - If Damien is ever going to get any work done, his new family member will need toys to keep him/her amused - I know how hard it is to work with a small child around!!!!) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: